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Finding a Quarterback: What is Tyrod Taylor’s Ceiling?

| February 16th, 2017

Did the Buffalo Bills hold Tyrod Taylor back or was it the other way around? That’s the question I kept asking myself as I watched him play.

There were times where Taylor was Russell Wilson.

There were other times where I wondered if the Bills called conservative games because Taylor was their quarterback.

This same debate is prevalent among Buffalo media, who are radically divided on Taylor’s tenure with the Bills.

Buffalo GM Doug Whaley doesn’t like Taylor. Taylor was Rex Ryan’s guy and even though new Buffalo offensive coordinator Rick Dennison is said to be a fan of Taylor’s, Whaley isn’t like to care. Most signs point to the Bills opting out of Taylor’s lucrative contract and the 27-year-old hitting the open market.

He’ll get paidt for his play the last two seasons, with passer ratings of 99.4 and 89.6, but nobody really knows what they’re getting. He could be a quality player on the ascent or he could be a player destined for mediocrity.

I watched six games of Taylor and charted four. I marked him as inaccurate on just 23.3 percent of his passes, but he wasn’t making passes into tight windows down the field. He checked the ball down too quickly at times, but it was hard to tell if that was a his doing or instructions from the coaching staff. Ryan, after all, is notoriously conservative.

One of the criticisms of Taylor was that he couldn’t play from the pocket. In their win over New England, he completed 16 passes for 159 yards from inside the pocket. Not bad.

The numbers took a bit of a dip for Taylor from 2015 to 2016, but they let Chris Hogan go as a free agent and Sammy Watkins missed half the season. He wasn’t Aaron Rodgers, but he was productive. Through two years, his 16-game average was just over 3,300 yards, 21 touchdowns and 7 interceptions. In both seasons he ran for over 550 yards and totaled 10 rushing touchdowns.

Is he capable of more? And I think the answer is yes.

Taylor wasn’t surrounded by much in Buffalo. They had a good offensive line and a great rushing attack, which he contributed to significantly. Outside of Watkins, I’m not sure any of their receivers should be considered above average.

When Taylor had Watkins and Hogan, he was among the best deep passers in the league. According to ESPN’s splits, he completed about 41% of his passes that traveled over 20 yards (for comparison sake, Aaron Rodgers completed 29.2% last year). He was also good on third-and-long with a passer rating of 98.3 and 8.72 yards per attempt on third down with six or more yards.

I also didn’t feel like offensive coordinator Anthony Lynn did him any favors. Lynn must have impressed in the interview process before getting the head job with the Chargers because he didn’t seem to have the first clue how to get guys open. I couldn’t help but wonder how much better Taylor would’ve looked with an offensive coordinator who got big passing performances out of Brian Hoyer and Matt Barkley.

With Taylor, I would imagine the Bears passing game looking similar to what it did with Hoyer, only adding the threat of a deep ball and, of course, the ability to run when nothing is open. Taylor is somewhere between Teddy Bridgewater and Russell Wilson. He’s not a franchise quarterback, but he’s more than capable. Capable quarterbacks just don’t hit the market very often.

If Taylor does become a free agent, the Bears will — and should — kick his tires. They have to find out what he is. He just might be a diamond in the rough.

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  • SC Dave

    Ceiling? Not of the first rank.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      It’s not your money. So who cares!

    • Artoo

      This. 100% this.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

      If the Bills let him go, we can sign him to anything, right?
      Front load it for first 3 years. We got the cap esp with Cutty off the books.

  • Sahr Gborie

    Second, decide you will pass on the 2017 QB class and go all in on 2018: Sam Darnold of USC or
    Josh Rosen of UCLA.

    • MB30SD

      Butch, is that you?!

      • Sahr Gborie

        Not at all. I’m new to the site.

        • MB30SD

          Yo yo yo… Its a jokes dawgz. Ha!

          Butch, that you?

        • CanadaBear

          Welcome aboard. Hope you like politics!

          • Sahr Gborie

            I welcome the conversations!!!

          • CanadaBear

            Good on ya! The beauty of this blog is no matter how much we disagree it usually doesn’t get toxic. Gotta love that!

          • MB30SD

            fuck you!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Bullshit you silly Canadian. why don’t you stick to talking about maple syrup and moose wang? IDIOT!

          • CanadaBear

            Your monkey wang is showing!

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            Come for the football, stay for the Tall Whites and golden showers…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sshhhhsshh ….

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

        There is only ONE Butch, but if Sahr begins to refer to Cutler as Cargo, I’m going to have serious Fight Club realization moment.

        • MB30SD

          My question is… is sahr the new barb?

          Is homie from the middle east… is he a sleeper cell trying to infiltrate?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            No. Barb would make some comment which would simultaneously be universally cheered and jeered like. “Trump is a fucking russian puppet, but at least his mail order bride can blow Putin to smooth out international tensions”

    • Big Mike

      The Bears and every other team. Price will be ridiculous

      • Sahr Gborie

        I do not mind paying the price for a true franchise qb. Sam Darnold of USC and
        Josh Rosen of UCLA are considered better than anything in the 17 qb class and free agency. Darnold is being compared to Andrew Luck. Why give up draft picks for J.G. when you still have to pay him? You could have a rookie for 5 years for cheap while you build a team around him.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

          I’m all aboard the accruing as many picks as possible for Darnold starting this draft.

          But doubt that’ll happen.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Wilkommen. Bienvenue. Failte romhat.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    He has a Vince Evans vibe to him. Go for it.

    • CanadaBear

      What could go wrong?

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Waffle –

    Call Stuttgart. Tell them the new 992 rear end is unacceptable.

    http://dailysunknoxville.com/next-gen-porsche-911-glad-to-spoil-its-good-looks/920017117

    • MB30SD

      Yucky

    • CanadaBear

      Looks like the rear end on an Infinity.

      • MB30SD

        Yuuucky

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        Like some reject from Buick

      • Big Mike

        I bought my wife a Mazda Miata. Looks like the Miata. BTW that car is a ton a fun to drive. It weighs next to nothing. The balance of the car is remarkable. Throttle response and gear ratios make it lightning quick. The 6 speed manual makes you smile. I look like I’m doing acrobatics when I get in. It’s a very low and tiny car. But man it’s a hoot.

        • CanadaBear

          I’ve seen more Miata’s on Vancouver Island in the last 2.5 years than all the previous years since they went on the market. Wish I had the disposable income. I drive the ultra expensive Mazda 3 HB.

          • Big Mike

            They did a great job on the rebuild. I think 2015. Maybe 2016. My gal drove a mini-van for 20+ years. It was about to die. Daughter’s grown, son is at college. She said she wanted the anti-minivan. I suggested a BMW 335, an M4 (through that in for myself), the Miata and a Jeep Wrangler. All of these were as anti-minivan as you can get. I was pulling for the M4. No shot. Wrangler had a shot for a minute, then she drove it on the highway. (Very noisy, felt like a mini-van. I really figured she’d pick the 335 and I’d work with the dealer to get the 335is or the 340. But she fell in love with the miata.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            I brought a Vette (save the jokes) to Woodward and raced my friends M4 there

            Fast car

          • Big Mike

            Off the top of my head, I’d suspect the M4 is quicker to 60, but not the 1/4 mile. They are about even on price right now aren’t they?

          • CanadaBear

            Nice. I love cars but only have enough dough for one so it has to be more practical. I’d love to bomb around in one of those.

          • Big Mike

            It’s not a daily driver. For the money, there are a quite a few cars I would pick instead.

        • MB30SD

          know what the toughest part about driving a miata is mike?

          • CanadaBear

            Wait for it.

          • MB30SD

            telling your dad you’re gay.

            NTTAWWT

          • CanadaBear

            It’s not unlike driving a scooter is like having sex with a fat chick. It’s all fun and games until someone sees you.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly

          • Big Mike

            Man enough to not give a fuck. Plus my other car is a F150 Raptor

          • MB30SD

            See GP’s sticker below

          • Big Mike
          • MB30SD

            Nice ride!

            Oh and def see GP’s bumper sticker below

          • Big Mike

            I saw that. Like I said it’s my wife’s car. I was surprised at how cool it looked. It’s also a sleeper. Off the line, quick. Instant throttle (if you know how to get the most out of a manual). I’ve driven it a dozen times just for giggles. Don’t fit in the passenger side. Dashboard is in my lap. Driver seat has more room.

          • MB30SD

            I’m just fucking with you man. I’m sure you have a humungous bulbous penis

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTboGG7DMwU

          • Big Mike

            That’s funny. No worries. I had the same thought about it being a chick car. Mama’s happy, everyone’s happy.

          • MB30SD

            usually the way it rolls yo.

            GP and I had this discussion yesterday. When I finally sell my company, I’m not buying a Ferrari, I’m buying one of these: http://www.arkonik.com/defenders.aspx?id=110

            kinda partial to the Lamond.

          • Big Mike

            I didn’t know you were an entrepreneur. So that’s me. Haven’t had a job in 20 years. I’ve sold 3 companies. First was a tiny sale. Took some proceeds and rolled it. Did that twice. Bit bigger each time. I’ve got a stake in 3 companies now. I’m on the Board of two, and have a third company that I’m building for the long haul and a possible sale in 5-10 years.

          • MB30SD

            nice! Well done mike.

            It’s the toughest gig you’ll ever love… except kids.

            Oh, and my bro and I have one of these in our garage, but we’re going to leave it to the pros to get running again: http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_0LXwB2xJfZg/TPe11ttdlrI/AAAAAAAAA6g/QAxV4CEXWyA/s1600/64+Jaguar+E+Type.JPG

          • Big Mike

            Oh wow. That’s a classic.

            No particular skill set needed to do this, other than brass balls, thick skin, conviction, and knowing how to get up again after you get knocked on your ass. Closing thing to competing in sports. You need to create a good team, be a leader and do your job.

          • MB30SD

            yep, and expect everything to take 3 X as long and be 3 X as hard. It’s all about the team.

            Good peeps is almost impossible to find.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            #waxdatanus

          • Big Mike
          • CanadaBear

            Love the color. Nice not to see one in red. When the Honda S2000’s first came out I really wanted one. I was surprised how quickly they dropped that model.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Like the old Peugeot 105, or the VW Golf. Boy racers in Ireland were very fond of the Turbo models.

          • Big Mike

            I wasn’t aware. Thanks.

    • MB30SD
      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        I would put Kandi from One Eskimo on the radio of that car and drive it constantly

    • Big Mike

      It looks like a mazda miata.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Billy Best wrote: When is it coming? How much time passes before you admit you are full of it?

    Shit Billy, I only had to wait 24 hours.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/us/politics/russia-intelligence-communications-trump.html

    Now Manafort is busted. I hope he keeps some rope in his glove box.

    • MB30SD

      It’s all left-winger commie bastard pinko propaganda go!

      Don’t believe a thing.

      Wait…

      • CanadaBear

        You know nobody in Washington has ever told a lie.

        • MB30SD

          Nevah!

    • willbest

      Yes and an Obama aid had ties to Hamas during the election.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

        et tu
        can you defend Trump without using that fallacy?

        • willbest

          I can, but unless you can show me leftist outrage over it from 9 years ago I won’t bother.

          Basically, prove to me that its a genuine concern to you rather than a partisan one.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            Say what you want about Obama, but at least no one, left or right, wondered if he was a Russian proxy.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I did, either that or he was body snatched by our alien overlords.

          • willbest

            Just a Muslim

          • willbest

            Oh or that he wasn’t an American citizen. Particular facts are different, but the result is the same. Da Nile.

    • willbest
      • MB30SD

        Phew! talk about a measuring stick huh!!!

        Yay Trump!!! You surprised and shocked all of us by NOT.

        • willbest

          That nothing illegal was said on the phone call, and the indication he was fired for lying?

          Meanwhile you have Carlos Slims blog hellbent on taking down a man who has promised to shake up the status quo with Mexico costing Slims himself billions?

          Like I said. Unless they anonymous agents want to produce the transcripts or audio, they are just traitors. That supposes they even exist. It wouldn’t be the first time a new organization went with fake but accurate.

          • MB30SD

            I tend to believe the ol sayin, “where there’s smoke, there’s fire”

            Guess we’ll see.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Can I quote you?

          • MB30SD

            Um, sure?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Maybe why the National Review is screaming that they release the tape.

          • willbest

            The National Review wants WW3. So just the thought that Russia tampered with the election gets their precum flowing.

    • willbest

      heh you read to the end of the article. Manafort in his business dealings in Russia talked to Russian officials. I know a guy who adopted a baby from Russia and had to take $2000 cash to bribe the various officials to approve the paper work.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

      Can we just all admit that

      A. Russia has always wanted to neuter the U.S. while empowering itself
      B. Russia CLEARLY wanted Trumpf to win, and almost certainly influenced the election

      Ergo Trumpf in office…

  • MB30SD
  • Big Mike

    I didn’t know we had such car buffs on da blog.

    • MB30SD

      really? We do, we do!

      • Big Mike

        Well I’ll be damned. My son and I have been fixing up a 2008 BMW 335. It had 95,000 miles on it when we got it. Had a few problems we got sorted out. We lowered it, put on some new rims, de-badged it and installed a chip. We’ve got about $16-$17k into it, plus a dozen weekends.

        http://imgur.com/a/zZV5K

        • MB30SD

          zach’s a lucky boy. way to go dad.

          • Big Mike

            He worked hard. He put in about $3k. It was quality time. Plus I love taking it out. We bought it for $9,999.

          • MB30SD

            nice. GPs the more gearhead of the two of us. I don’t do the work, just grew up around a dad who introed me to racing and cars.

            I’m not really a gearhead and I wouldn’t spend a ton of money on a nice car even if I had it to piss away. Just too practical I guess. I drive a Pathfinder with two kids seats in the back. As long as I can safely take my kids where I need to go and throw my boards, bikes, and kayaks on the roof, I’m good.

          • Big Mike

            I hear you. I had a minivan and an SUV (Jeep Grand Cherokee, Ford Expedition) for 15-20 years until my kids started leaving. Got 8-10 years out of them. But before kids I had a Taurus SHO, an IROC-Z, a Mustang 5.0 etc.

          • MB30SD

            nice

          • Irish Sweetness

            Zackly.

        • Bender McLugh

          nice looking ride

    • Irish Sweetness

      Eric Bana did a good flick on rebuilding his car. Worth a watch.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    Is it racist to say i don’t think he can read defenses effectively?

    • MB30SD

      maybe?

    • willbest

      No. Unless you also think Cutler can read defenses effectively. Then its racists.

  • Sahr Gborie

    Do you guys want to take a QB in this draft? Or would you rather build the defense again this year and wait for the 2018 QB class?

    • MB30SD

      you’re late dude.

      Read back about 20 threads.

    • Bender McLugh

      my vote is for Tyrod & a QB in the later rounds if a viable one is still there. If not Tyrod, then next year and roll with MB’s love-child, Hoyer or Barkley.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Fuck Hoyer!

        • MB30SD

          NO!

        • Bender McLugh

          lol

      • MB30SD

        Our love child… OUR love child.

        • Bender McLugh

          hahah

          • MB30SD

            there’s no “i” in “win” man.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            good thing Hoyer won all those games for us last year.

          • MB30SD

            shhhhh shhhhhhhhh….

            http://www.si.com/swimsuit/

  • Sahr Gborie

    Who wants to sell the #3 pick for more ammo and move back a few spots but stay in the top 10?

    • MB30SD

      sigh

    • Huge Bears Penis

      no we should trade our #3 to Dallas for Romo.

      • MB30SD

        DUDE!!! we are SO on the same page on this one!

        • Big Mike

          Quit f’n with the new guy.

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha

          • Huge Bears Penis

            party pooper!

          • MB30SD

            totally, right?!

            Hey guys… what do you think of Hoyer as #1 next year btw?!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I am going to shoot you in the knee!

          • MB30SD

            Tis nothing but a flesh wound. and I have another!

          • Sahr Gborie

            its all love. just enjoying being around other bears fans

          • Johnnywad

            Hope you like bitching and general saltiness with a dose of politics and a side of Alien Federal Reserve agents.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Why not trade it for Blake Bortles?

      • BerwynBomber

        Or maybe SF will give us the #2 for Cutty? Or wait, CLE gives us the #1 for Cutty!!!

        • MB30SD

          Yes yes! Let’s do that!!

        • Huge Bears Penis

          seems a bit light, better ask for a 2nd also.

          • MB30SD

            Whatever we do, just don’t trade HOYER!!! He’s the key next year maings. THE KEEEY!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Now I am going to shoot you in both knees!

          • MB30SD

            I have dos elbows G$.

            Still with the chick? GF yet?

        • Sahr Gborie

          LOL!!!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Alert: “Dain Bramaged” comment.

        • MB30SD

          AKA, sarcasm.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Knew that. LOL.

    • Big Mike

      Nope.

      • Sahr Gborie

        why not? what do we have to lose. top3-5 qb are not that great. we can still get a quality cb/safety inside the top 10. myles garrett is out of reach unless he falls.

        • Bender McLugh

          see Thomas/Hooker

        • MB30SD

          Yo yo yo… you’re late maings. We’ve hashed this over about a million fucking times since end of the season and you asking today.

          Welcome, now sit down and shut up for a while. Fucking teacher’s pet.

          • Bender McLugh

            ouch! go eat some breffast yo

          • MB30SD

            I’m totally just fucking with him. welcome wagon and all that.

          • Sahr Gborie

            thanks for the luv

          • MB30SD

            Pussy!

          • Sahr Gborie

            at least i passed the calss…LOL!!!!

          • MB30SD

            I’m just fucking with you man. You’ll learn quickly.

    • BerwynBomber

      Problem is this doesn’t seem the draft full of sure-fire Pro Bowlers. Not only no blue-chip QBs, but no consensus Suh-type on D or even an all-world LT or a Calvin Johnson WR.

      • MB30SD

        I thought garrett was that guy?

        • BerwynBomber

          Maybe he is and I’m out of it. That’s entirely possible.

          • MB30SD

            jes

          • Huge Bears Penis

            nein

          • MB30SD

            jawohl!

        • Sahr Gborie

          we could trade #3 with the jets for #6 & sheldon richardson

      • Huge Bears Penis

        we don’t need a WR, we have BRAVERMAN. don’t need a Suh-Type either cuz we going to resign TERRY FUCKING WILLIAMS!!!!

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

        Drafts don’t offer blue-chippers at EVERY position though.

        Usu each draft offers like 2-3 “blue-chippers” meaning universally lauded prospects that get compared to HOFers. (If you think of it in Madden terms, guys who are rated 84+ as rookies)

        Suh was indeed one of those

        Miller was another. AP. Keuchly, Luck, etc (QBs are the rarest, needless to say).

        In this draft Myles Garrett and Fournette are those guys, with some borderline dudes like Hooker and Allen, but that’s about it.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      Hooker’s surgery might push him back – if we could trade back knowing a killer safety was there and pick up an extra pick – we could sure use it.

      After a few years of drafting lineman too high, I think the zeitgeist is once again to use the big picks on quarterbacks, and I fear Westworld believes that. I think he’s using that 3 to either trade a QB or pickup Kizer or Watson.

      • MB30SD

        i’ll be out

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          A Domer at 3 would mandate I stop watching.

          #RickMirer

          • MB30SD

            Tooootally.

            Rick Mirer 2.0.

            Done.

          • willbest

            Nah, you will check the box stats and if the kid is doing alright you will turn on the 4th game of the season. Which will be in time for the defenses to figure out his tells and stomp the shit out of him. You will walk away in frustration and come back in 2018 after he has rallied a bit to end the season as a respectable rookie and the promise of a dominant Dline man selection is there in the draft.

          • MB30SD

            siiigh

        • Johnnywad

          It’s the Emery PTSD talking. Pace will do fine. He’s proving he knows what football players look like.

          If White hadn’t broken his leg, I’m betting we’d be pretty excited to see who he takes next. That’s broken leg is the biggest reason for all the angst. Pace has added quality to the roster and he’s a shrewd Mother Fucker. (See Matt Forte, et. al.)

          It’s all good Sunshine.

          • MB30SD

            we’ll see. I just worry about the pressure to bring in a franchise.

            Without that, I wouldn’t be worried at all. I’ve always been on the Pace bandwagon.

          • Sahr Gborie

            all hail pace

          • Johnnywad

            Now you’re on the list.

      • Sahr Gborie

        1. trade back and stay in the top 10. 2.use extra ammo to trade back into the 1st round if someone you like is still on the board but will not cost too much. 3. save the ammo for next year and move to get a qb

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      What if we send our ace pitcher from the Cubs to Boston for Brady? 1 cubs WS gotta be worth 5 or 6 SB’s. Just sayin.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

      Nearly everyone.
      So long as we can still get Hooker, Adams, Thomas, Allen, Foster, Top 2CB, maybe even Fournette or Mike Williams (if Alshon gone)

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Chicago Exotics rented me a non-chipped C7 Stingray for a grand for the weekend. Drove it to Detroit.

    Avis and Hertz chip those cars, I needed the full 455. I went there to bet my friend that a stock C7 could take him. We bet a pair of $500 chips at Detroit MGM Casino.

    Woodward has started doing sanctioned drags on Friday night during Dream Cruise. Real Christmas tree and trap clock at the quarter mile.

    I beat him. 7.0 displacement won the day, but that auto bogged me and once the M4s screws spun up he came on like hell on high water. I made my rental fee back, he was pissed.

    Neither of us clocked _anything_ to be proud of. 14.5 to 14.3.

    You should go. $65 a run on the strip, but it takes HOURS in line. They are going to expand it to 2 days soon, it is SO popular. Went from 7pm to about 1am. Every freaking hot rod you can imagine is there.

    • MB30SD

      fun

  • MB30SD
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  • BearDown100393

    Tyrod Taylor is not better than Jay Cutler.
    And Tyrod Taylor is not going to be better than Jay Cutler.
    Next.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Cheer up mate, so we go 14-2 instead of 16-0.

      • MB30SD

        if we have HOYER THE DESTORYER @ #1!!!!

        • Huge Bears Penis

          your dyslexia is acting up again. I did not say 2-14 or 0-16.

          • MB30SD

            that’s not funny. I have a serious problem man.

            It got me so depressed a few years ago that I tried to commit suicide.

            …I threw myself be hind a bus.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
          • MB30SD

            no respect!

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            I had no luck with women, alright? I went to my doctor; I told him I think my wife has VD, he gave himself a penicillin shot!

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha

          • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

            wow. that sucks, man. did you keep going to him afterwards? i don’t know if i could stay with a doctor who’s been inside my wife.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            srory ddint maen aynhting by it.

          • MB30SD

            waht?

          • willbest

            He didn’t realize you made a joke.

          • MB30SD

            Waht?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            no I got the joke, you did not realize the joke in return.

    • MB30SD

      Jay Culter… of the Jets Jay Cutler?!

    • willbest

      Tyrod Taylor is better than Jay Cutler. Tyrod Taylor and unlike Cousins, I feel like Tyrod might have the “it” necessary to handle the moment.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

        I think Tyrod is even better than Cousins (though perhaps not by much).

        And I agree, Tyrod has flashed some “it” in the past.

    • Malice Halice

      NEGRO PLEASE!

  • BerwynBomber
    • Huge Bears Penis

      i wonder who is going to play him on the big screen.

      • willbest

        Matt Damon.

        • MB30SD

          too short

          • willbest

            Chris Hemsworth is 6’3″ and I think sending him out there in the Thor costume would be apt.

          • MB30SD

            smh

            (but he IS dreamy!)

      • MB30SD

        dane cook!

      • BearDown100393

        Corky.

      • Malice Halice

        That Skargard dude from Tarzan I’m sure. Or Micheal Cera lol

    • willbest

      Whats the low point of Tom Brady’s life. Well I got drafted in the 6th round and was a little sad. Then the QB1 got hurt and I started banging super models.

      • BerwynBomber

        It’s a circle jerk for Boston fans.

        P.S. Brady never seemed like the most interesting guy anyway. A bit of a dullard. Montana was a bit like that too, but not as bad as Brady.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

          A lot of the great ones are robotic. That’s one of the things I hate about sports. They’re conformity factories. Jordan isn’t exactly the most engaging interview.
          If it was up to GMs and coaches, they’d want a team full of Tebuses…

          • MB30SD

            you are a team full of tebuses. smh.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)
          • willbest

            Jordan is a businessman. “white people buy shoes too” or some such.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        it was probably pretty rough when he broke up with his pregnant gf to start dating Gisele.

        • MB30SD

          nice guy

          • willbest

            An athlete trading up. I am shocked

          • MB30SD

            and a lawyer defending a scum bag… equally as shocked.

            …just couldn’t help it bud. too easy and I’ve a bit of piss and vinegar today.

          • willbest

            I wasn’t defending him. I just don’t know. If you break up with a girl and 3 months later she comes to you saying “I am pregnant” you say “whelp I guess pending a DNA test in 6 months I will owe you child support”. If she says “I am pregnant” and you say “F that, I am out”. Its a bit different.

            Anyway, the ladies do it. Too. Angelina didn’t start out with Brad Pitt, she worked her way up to him.

          • MB30SD

            I’m just kidding man.

            Lot of sensitive boys on the blog this morning

          • MB30SD

            weird analogy maings. Don;t think the pitt thing fits here, but I got your point

          • willbest

            That was more of a joke. But I figured it was better than throwing out Wendi Deng who is a unanimous first ballot hall of famer.

            Wendi meets a guy and his wife while they are on business in China. Moves to the US on a student visa they sponser for her, has an affair with the husband (30 years her senior) and when the wife kicks her out the husband leave the wife for Wendi. Uses the marriage to secure her US green card while having an affair with a man her age. An Internship gets her close to Murdoch and she jumps again to gold digging wife of billionaire. Not satisfied with that she started getting it from former prime Minister Tony Blair and of late has been rumored to have gotten with Putin.

          • MB30SD
          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Bud? Oh shit, that’s the word my wife uses when she loses it. Ruhroh!

        • willbest

          Did he know she was pregnant? Or was that like a baby trap situation?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            don’t know, go out to the waiting room of your office and pick up a copy of People magazine, if it’s like most waiting rooms its probably from around that time period.

          • MB30SD

            I only stock Highlights magazine from the 70’s in my office.

          • SC Dave

            Hahaha

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Her name was Bridget Moynighan. She was a b-actress.

            She went off the pill and didn’t tell Tom. It was a straight trap play.

            He was not amused. I understand he has little to no contact with his son from her. Her career went right into the shitter from that stunt.

          • willbest

            He was up in the Super Bowl box with Gisele’s two. He looked out of sorts, but I figured it was because he was old enough to realize that some 75 million people were watching him. The younger ones don’t always understand the gravity of the moment.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’m betting that storyline is left on the cutting room floor … actually that storyline would never even be considered for the script …

      • BearDown100393

        Two years from now. First Belichick cuts him. Second Belichick declares that he is Brady’s father.

        • MB30SD

          Tom…. I am your faaaathaaaahhhh!

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        I was at the Broncos Pats game in Denver shortly after Tom took over for Bledsoe.

        That was the game where the Pats were down 5, and they get the ball late in the 4th at the 2 yard and take a deliberate safety to go down 7. Everyone is stunned, everyone is like WTF.

        Then the Pats have to punt from the safety, Pats make a D stand, force the Broncos to punt, get the ball at the 30, Brady marches downfield and scores – goes for the 2-point conversion and the Pats win by one.

        The whole stadium was stunned. I watched Brady throw these out routes and was like “Jesus, that kid is really good”

        • BerwynBomber

          I first noticed him in that UM/ALA Orange Bowl when he threw the ball all over the field and Michigan beat the Sean Alexander-led Tide something like 35-31. It was eye-opening as I had only seen him once in his junior year (against OSU) and he looked ineffectual as hell. But that Orange Bowl was a transformed QB

          On the flip side, I didn’t think he looked all that their first SB year. In fact, Bledsoe may have started two of their post-season games as Brady got hurt. Even in the SB it was the Pats D that carried them over the Rams much more than Brady.

  • Malice Halice

    Taylor is our guy. If not him, Watson. No Jimmy no Romo. I rather have Hoyer and just swallow my pride about the playoffs. Again

    • Huge Bears Penis

      may the gods strike you down with lightning for saying you would rather have Hoyer.

      • Malice Halice

        Naw man, I don’t trust Jimmy its my spidey-sense. Romo is only good physically for maybe a year. I prefer longevity for the bears.

        • Malice Halice

          I’m not implying Hoyer is our franchise qb, maybe we need another year.

          • MB30SD

            he is.

            And you are crazy

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Build a fucking secondary.

            Build a team that can get to the QB and control the clock with Howard and a time killing short passing game.

            Dump Alshon and use the dollars to sign some fucking corners and pick up a ass kicking safety to whip the group into shape. Go read “They call me Assassin” by Jack Tatum to see what one super-badass can do for a secondary with pussies on it.

          • Malice Halice

            Secondary is in vital need for improvement for sure. We can establish it this off-season but we can also KEEP AJ in the process.

          • MB30SD

            Binfuckinggo baby!!

          • Sahr Gborie

            AMEN!!!
            1. SECONDARY
            2. SECONDARY
            3. SECONDARY
            4. FRONT SEVEN

            5. DO NOT OVERPAY FOR ALSHON

          • MB30SD

            I like you son… you can come over and fuck my sister.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            If we dump Alshon, who do we replace him with – Meredith? fuck that

            Mike Williams (Lions flashback)?

            Broken down has beens like Cruz?

            Only other guy I can think of is Pryor who comes with his own question marks.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Only one god gets to use lightning.
        Just sayin…..

    • BerwynBomber

      Pace likely will not want Romo. And Romo will likely not want to come here.
      JimmyG is a different issue.

  • willbest

    Fins releasing their old LT Branden Albert. Committing to gasmask at the position.

  • BerwynBomber

    MIA releases DE Mario Williams.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      The Houston Texans were best served by passing over Reggie Bush and Vince Young at the #1 overall pick in favor of the years they got from Williams at DE.

      Discuss.

      https://cdn.meme.am/cache/images/folder827/12604827.jpg

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

        In the long run, they all flamed out but did produce some good years.
        If “success” is measured by SBs, gotta wonder, could the Texans have won a SB with Young?

        Young may have been a headcase, but Fisher HATED him (ironically, Fisher wanted Cutler) and did everything he could to sabotage him.

        If Young had a better foundation coming into the NFL (not to mention he’d be a Texan hero), gotta wonder if his career would’ve turned out differently.

    • Malice Halice

      Let’s get him

      • CanadaBear

        The guy has quit on his last 2 teams. That or he’s completely washed up.

  • BerwynBomber

    For the chalkboard nerds, Bowen’s 20 best schemes from the 2016 season:

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18691938/20-plays-every-nfl-coach-steal-2017

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

    Through two years, his 16-game average was just over 3,300 yards, 21 touchdowns and 7 interceptions – Andy

    Cargo had 5 INTs last season in 5 games. Not counting the unnecessary sack/strips.

    • MB30SD

      what do you mean unnecessary?

      They were necessary for him.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

        Had to fill that Cargo quota

  • MB30SD
  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

    I have caught more than a few BUFF games with Tyrod, and he can def make all the throws. He can indeed hit deep, short and intermediate is good, pocket awareness better than Cutty’s (not saying much, but still), he can scramble when needed, generally displays good decision making (hence the low INT rate). Tyrod also learned under Flacco and the other Harbs, so he’s not just a read-option gimmick.

    He is Hoyer +

    The ONE huge question mark I have with him is his durability. But again, compared to Cutler’s…

    If Tyrod is available, I can def live with him as a viable option. Would frontload most of his contract in first 3 years and STILL think about drafting another QB in the 2nd or beyond (if we don’t think Shaw is that developmental QB).

    Like I would still prefer loading up on draft picks and going all-in on Darnold next year, but Tyrod is absolutely a viable option .

    With a stout Oline and run game (and hopefully Alshon) + low INT rate and scrambling threat, this O can finally start scoring TDs in the redzone with Tyrod

    • BerwynBomber

      Sounds convincing to me. I haven’t seen him enough to draw any conclusions but only worry that his performance efficiency #s might be a tad misleading. (Cousins’ seem that way most times I watch him. Bradford’s, to a degree, as well.)

      I would also be on board with Glennon or McCarron as a bridge with a draft pick this year and/or next (though McCarron will probably cost us one in return).

      Technically, you can still draft a kid with Taylor or Garappolo, but given what you will be paying either guy, you are looking at them as the long-term starter (at least initially). With a Glennon or McCarron, it will definitely be about the kid we draft.

      • Malice Halice

        Come on man. He been killin shit with wideouts they picked off the street. Give that man AJ n Jordan n I swear for God Taylor would be a top 5 qb.

        • BerwynBomber

          Aren’t Watkins (when healthy) and Woods supposed to be pretty good?

          Btw, I heard that for years about Cutler too and then when we finally got him BMarsh, Alshon, Uni and Forte, he didn’t get all that much better.

          • Malice Halice

            I don’t the stats but I’m pretty sure Tyrod stats with buffalo is much better than cutler in Denver. Cutler stats alone when he had those guys should tell how bad cutler really is. Tyrod ain’t have half the talent as a supporting cast and he still put up numbers. In a DEFENSIVE division.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            Tyrod has impressed me too. He’s made some clutch throws and comebacks to go along with the stats. And like you mentioned, often with subpar supporting cast and questionable HC/OC.

            He’s more proven than Jimmy G in my book, and wouldn’t cost us a draft pick.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            But just look at the TOs, BB. That right there alone clues you into Tyrod’s decision making/reading field acumen.

            Tyrod is a rather efficient Qb who shows some deep touch and scrambling/improvising ability.

            Basically, an athletic Hoyer.

            I don’t know if he’ll be the next Vadgers (who is?), but we don’t necessarily need that to win a SB.

            Durability is another factor Pace must seriously consider.

          • MB30SD

            Playoffs?!?!?

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair enough. My intention wasn’t to cast as much shade on a prospective move on a Taylor move as I did. Was only wondering a little about the top 10 QBR rankings. As I said, “sounds convincing.”

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            I don’t know what Tyrod’s “ceiling” is, but I know his floor is higher than Cutler’s, Bradford Bridgwater’s and at least even with Stafford’s.

            That’s a good start.

    • SC Dave

      Well shit, this looks good.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

        I’ve always had the Tyrod option in the back burner, but never considered it a real option.

        However, I’ve been reading some rumblings that the Bills may indeed press reset on all, so now I can at least entertain the Tyrod/Bears scenario.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Step 1. Trump builds 50 foot wall for billions of dollars across Mexican border.
    Step 2. Roger organizes a benefit concert (probably on the Mexican side) and performs The Wall on “The Wall”
    Step 3. Profit!

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/entertainment/news/pink-floyds-roger-waters-would-consider-playing-concert-on-usmexican-border-35456948.html

    • willbest

      I thought Trump was getting impeached. I heard Obama’s OFA has been putting together a shadow government 30k bureaucrats strong in order to discredit Trump and maintain his legacy.

      Personally, I don’t buy it. That sounds like a lot more work than making $200k an hour for speaking nonsense, insider trading his way to hundreds of millions, and playing golf. Though it was touch and go there for a couple weeks on the golf. The Jews were debating keeping the black man out of their country club. Hm… maybe he cut a deal with the Jews to set up the shadow government in exchange for the country club membership.

      I better tell Alex Jones.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Wow! Will, put away the key board before it’s too late. This political football is getting carazy.

        • willbest

          I thought I would throw GP a bone. With all the liberal conspiracy theories sucking the oxygen out of the room these days I didn’t know if he had heard about the latest from the right.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Obama doesn’t seem that into golf.

            Maybe he could get a ticket to head up to the Chinese Moonbase on the Darkside.

            http://2d0yaz2jiom3c6vy7e7e5svk.wpengine.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/11/Alex-Jones-YouTube-800×430.png

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            How much bitcoin does a Moonbase tranny go for now a days?

          • MB30SD

            buy the dip

          • willbest

            I bought 5 bitcoins back in 2013 for a hundred something each. Been thinking about selling them of late as they are up over $1000, but I figure maybe see if it really takes off.

          • MB30SD

            or crash completely.

          • willbest

            So is the US dollar since the 1970’s

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Oh, and Will scores on the rebound

          • SC Dave

            Should have bought a thousand

          • willbest

            There are a lot of investments we all should have done. But kids need diapers and food among other things.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            Three words.

            Moonbase
            Tranny
            Stock

          • willbest

            I am going to wait for the SEC filings before I give that one serious consideration.

    • willbest

      heh. In putting together the quick hits for MB on Deng, I cam across this for you GP

      http://thehill.com/blogs/in-the-know/in-the-know/291465-ivanka-trump-vacationing-with-putins-rumored-girlfriend

      Deng is rumored to be with Putin. Back in August, Ivanka and Deng met up in Croatia. Dominoes man. They are everywhere

      • Malice Halice

        How do ppl believe this?

        • willbest

          Because they want to. If Trump is a Russian pawn and they pulled a fast one on us, then people don’t need to reassess their own world view.

          • MB30SD

            or that the fucking human apocalypse MUST be nigh

          • Malice Halice

            Accountability is the issue.

    • SC Dave

      Well, the repubs supposedly like entrepreneurial spirit, so there’s that.

  • MB30SD

    Great News conference btw Will! Good stuff from the president of the USA!

    Also, will you be attending his 2020 reelection rally this coming weekend in Florida?

    Jesus, what a fucking buffoon.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    Bouye looks like he is going to be a FA, I like the little I saw from him in Houston. Anyone catch more games to give insight.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/16/report-texans-unlikely-to-tag-a-j-bouye/

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

      I’m in the same boat as you. From little I saw, he looked solid.

      “He had one regular season interception, added two more in the playoffs”

      This kinda worries me though. We NEED playmakers who force TOs. Think we were deadlast in producing TOs last season (although his playoff INTs are a positive).

      Also, it’s a really DEEP CB class.

      Can’t say I would complain, but I’d probably prefer Berry for that one FA splurge.

      Pace did kick the tires on Josh Norman last offseason,so at least we know Pace is actively looking into secondary improvement, but according to Norman, the Bears ‘dissed’ him with their offer, .

      Wonder if that makes Pace more/less likely to pay up in FA going forward.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        with our cap space we can splurge on a couple FAs

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

          Pace doesn’t strike me as a splurge type of GM.
          Who’s the highest FA? McPhee? And even he was reasonably price.

          His MO seems to be the McPhee/Hicks/ types.

          We also have no clue what the Pace plan is.

          If he goes after JimmyG or Tyrod while re-signing Alshon, that’ll suck a lot of cap.

          • MB30SD

            that’s what she said

          • Huge Bears Penis

            we have like $70 mill in cap.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            Would that theoretically be enough for say, Tyrod, Alshon, Berry and Bouye?

            Maybe, but that would be unprecedented for the Bears.

            Pace hasn’t even signed ONE ‘A+’ FA yet (both McPhee and Hicks were more “B” types). He flirted with a few like Josh Norman, but always had a hard cut-off.

            What was the most the Bears spent in FA?

            I think the Peppers offseason might be it.

          • willbest

            It would, but we won’t because we aren’t the only team throwing money around.

          • willbest

            Aren’t you a little glad we didn’t sign Norman? I wanted him but after watching him play this year, he isn’t living up to his 15 million, and the money hasn’t seemed to help his attitude.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            Norman may not have dominated, but compared to the Bausby/LeBlancs of the world, he might’ve been worth it.

            Porter’s not getting any younger, and Fuller is a puss apparently.

            If we had signed Norman, maybe CB isn’t such a dire need.

            However, Norman has a lil diva in him, but that’s a lot of top CBs.

          • willbest

            Tillman spoiled me on the attitude front. I just feel like there might be a happy middle in there. Whats his name, Grimes. We could have had him for 6.5 million. Then again his bitch be cray cray.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “with our cap space…”

          A LOT of teams can say that SAME thing.

  • Waffle
    • Huge Bears Penis

      2 reasons to stay the fuck out of Australia.

    • MB30SD

      damn. harsh. poor little snake.

      I would never have allowed that to happen. Would have freed the snake. Fuck spiders!

      Fucking cruel ozzie cunts!

  • Malice Halice

    I just heard Illinois got a birth control app.?

    • willbest

      Its amazon for birth control. I think it has something to do with getting state approval to have a doctor just sign off on a script sight unseen.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    http://uncrate.com/article/ferrari-812-superfast/

    0-62 in 2.9 seconds. Holy rocketship batman

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

      How does that shit not fly?

      All these new materials have to be the same shit that NASA uses, right?

      • MB30SD

        it’s designed to grip with more speed… downforce baby!

        But yeah, I’m sure if you stuck wings on it, it’d take off.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

          that’s what she said…

      • willbest

        Isn’t that the problem with cars. Its not so much making them go faster, its making them stay on the ground when they do.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      I like the return to the twin tail lights.

  • willbest

    You don’t see that every day. Google paid some executives too much money so they quit and went surfing.

    http://www.autoblog.com/2017/02/15/google-waymo-overpaid-exodus/

  • Sactowns#1

    Well I’m back from Havana! Jeesh, leave for a week and dams are collapsing, Hwy 50 and 80 are closed and there’s no way to make it up to the ski resort, the orange buffoon had a Russian agent in his cabinet (or more than one) and the beloved are getting hammered over their bogus workers comp law. That’ll teach me to go on vacation!

    • willbest

      The overflow spillway seems like an open and obvious design flaw.

      • SC Dave

        Obviously Trump’s fault. Now that Bush is no longer eligible.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          Dave is secretly hot for Ivanka.

          • willbest

            Why wouldn’t he be openly hot for Ivanka like every heterosexual?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

            In all honesty, at Palin’s most revolting, I’d probably have porked her in the ultimate hate-fuck.

            Just bent her over that desk in Alaska overlooking Russia that way we would’ve had 4 eyes on those dodgy commies.

          • Malice Halice

            Haha. Palin can get da D anyday! Hot milf

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

      Nothing has changed.
      Welcome back to The U.S.S, I mean, U.S. Comrade.
      Try the Borsch

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Does the spider make a noose? What is restraining the snake?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uT_AvUGebo

    it’s scary to think the spider can spin a web strong enough to noose a snake that large.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-me-Naught!(Butch)

      Waffle posted below.
      I wondered that too. Snake should win, but apparently caught in some web.

      That’s some strong ass web. Imagine if you caught your cock on that and that spider was inching down!

      • Malice Halice

        Oh LAWD!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Strongest substance in nature.

  • BearDown100393

    Tomorrow’s Post: Vince Young

    • Malice Halice

      He’s really making a comeback? I thought the sandman himself escorted him out.

  • willbest

    Looks like Revis will be available after he serves an 8 game suspension

  • willbest

    “Lotta stupid people. Of course you give up 3 for a star QB.” – Andy

    You give up 2 firsts, and a 3rd for a star QB. But a guy that has only has only played 1.67 games as an NFL starter isn’t a star QB.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    new thread

  • Irish Sweetness

    Isn’t E.J Manuel about a third for this guy’s price? Is he that different?

  • Dawngwills

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