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Finding A Quarterback: Patrick Mahomes Might Be The Next Brett Favre

| March 28th, 2017

I don’t think the Bears can risk using the third pick on a quarterback who needs as much work as Patrick Mahomes. But I also don’t think they can let a quarterback with this much talent get past them in the second.

It’s hard to watch the Texas Tech QB and not be reminded of Brett Favre, but that doesn’t mean he’s going to be a reincarnation of the old gunslinger.

Everybody talks about the arm and it’s every bit as good as they say. He can toss the ball 50 yards with a flick of the wrist and makes throws that most quarterbacks won’t even consider. (I’d go as far as saying he has the strongest arm in football.)

He’s more than just an arm. He also has adequate accuracy and moves around pretty well. But my favorite Mahomes trait? Instincts.

There are some quarterbacks who just don’t — or can’t — keep their eyes down the field when a play breaks down. Mahomes always seems to find ways to push the ball down the field and pressure the defense. If they mess up, he’ll make them pay. There just aren’t that many guys who can do that, especially at the collegiate level.

The big knock on Mahomes is his fundamentals. I don’t give a shit about that. His arm allows him to make throws without perfect feet. Sure, he’ll miss a throw here or there, but he makes up for that. I’m slightly concerned about how he protects — or doesn’t protect — the ball in traffic. That, combined with his smallish hands could lead to a lot of fumbles in the NFL, but that’s fixable.

I’m also not too concerned about the fact that he played in the Air Raid system. Some have pointed out that no quarterback has come from the Air Raid and went on to succeed in the NFL, but guys like Graham Harrell and Kliff  Kingsbury didn’t have anywhere near the talent of Mahomes. While he benefited from a lot of YAC, Mahomes made enough plays outside the system that I’m not worried about it.

To me, the biggest concern about Mahomes is his ability to play within structure.

Mahomes makes some great plays when he’s scrambling around. But those kinds of plays can’t carry an offense. Hell, even Aaron Rodgers couldn’t do it, which we saw in 2015 and early in 2016. The ability to ad-lib is great, but to be a great NFL quarterback, Mahomes has to be able to play disciplined within his team’s scheme.

The legend of Favre has been told over and over, but people often forget how close it came to never happening. If it wasn’t for Mike Holmgren, nobody would even know who Favre is. Holmgren instilled discipline in Favre and got him to play within the structure of the West Coast offense, while still allowing him to be creative.

Mahomes doesn’t turn the ball over as often as Favre did in the NFL, but I suspect a large part of the reason for that was because he was playing against crappy Big 12 defenses. There were a number of times when defenders misplayed the ball in the air or just flat out dropped it. NFL teams are going to take advantage of the opportunities he gives them.

But I don’t know if the answer is as easy as having Mahomes sit and learn. I think all of his flaws have to be fixed by playing, just as Favre had to do. Mahomes needs to be thrown in the deep end and the coach that does it needs to hope he does more good than bad…and that his team’s ownership is patient.

Mahomes is a tricky evaluation because the teams that passed on Brett Favre look almost as dumb as the team that drafted and traded him. But if Favre were never traded to Green Bay, he never would’ve had the career he had. Mahomes is similar in that I really think he needs the right situation. I’m not sure the Bears can offer that.

But if he’s still available when they’re up in the second round, Mahomes just has too much talent to pass up. At that point, they have to trust their coaches and hope for the best. Players like this don’t come around that often.

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  • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

    First..”biatch es
    To say long time reader. ..
    That’s all I got
    “Drops mic”

    • MB30SD

      That’s your first post. Uhhhgggh… Brutal.

      • leftcoast dave

        Night at the Improv.

      • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

        Well actually not my first post; but this is out of your own handbook

        • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

          I’ll try N be more original

    • Sahr Gborie

      welcome to the family

      • MB30SD

        Noobs can’t welcome noobs.

        Rule #185. Ask trac

        • CRAZYBEARNORTH48

          Lol

        • Sahr Gborie

          send the poor guy an welcome mat or someting

          • MB30SD

            Once you’ve been here 5+ years (offseason too) you can blow him in the back of your car if you want.

          • Sahr Gborie

            you are welcome to clean up the mess

          • MB30SD

            take responsibilities for you own actions. You must be a millennial.

          • Irish Sweetness

            (shrugs)

            Yup, that’s how it works around here …

            (dabs mouth with Kleenex)

        • CanadaBear

          You’re a tough taskmaster!

  • Bender McLugh

    my preference would be Mahomes in the 3rd, not before. Hell, I’d prefer to just PASS. next!

    • MB30SD

      Yep

    • Sahr Gborie

      who do you suggest we draft since you are passing on mahomes in the 3rd?

      • Bender McLugh

        this year? no QB is my preference, but I just can’t shake the feeling that they will draft Watson at #3, which would bum me out but wouldn’t kill the season for me. Him or Trubisky have the most upside, but not worth it at #3. If they drop to the 2nd round then I’m aaaalll for it. If not, next year nab one of the top QB’s and go from there.

        • MB30SD

          Jeeeeees bender, jeeeeesssss

        • Irish Sweetness

          Watson would be sexy, but Glennon, Watson and Sanchize is overkill.

          • Bender McLugh

            but fumble is overkill all by himself. yeesh

      • leftcoast dave

        Harbaugh redux. C. J. Beathard.

  • Sahr Gborie

    3rd times the charm. Mahomes in the 3rd is a steal by all accounts. There is no way the top 3 fall into the 2nd and 3rd round of the draft

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      no guarantee that he would last to the 3rd either. By all account a lot of teams are looking for QBs. On top of the known teams with QB issues, Bears, Browns, and 49ers, there are teams like Giants, Steelers, Cardinals, and Chargers all have aging QBs and are looking for future replacements.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Would you be mad if Pace waited until the 5th to draft and went all in next year for S.Darnold?

        • MB30SD

          I would be happy

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          i would not be mad at anything he does. I have not been disappointed in Pace drafting yet. Many will bitch about White, but no one could have predicted that.

          • willbest

            I have been less than impressed with all secondary picks Amos, Bush, Hall, Houston-Carlson, Glenn, Bausby, that guy I didn’t even realize he was on the team and can’t remember his name at the moment.

          • Sahr Gborie

            i think hes prioritizing certain things based on how he wants to build the team. the line first then the secondary. plus he seems to want to throw as many bodies at the position as possible to see what sticks

          • MB30SD

            #22… Guy SUUUCKED

          • willbest

            LeBlanc… right, but there was another one. We were just throwing shit at the wall last year.

          • MB30SD

            Uhhhggggggg

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Forte hasn’t been on the team in over a year. no need to bash him. you are going to piss off Dave.

          • MB30SD

            too late

          • Glenn, Bausby, and LeBlanc were UDFA pickups, as was Callahan and HJQ.

            Amos, Bush, Hall, and Houston-Carson were picks, but all day 3 guys.

            They haven’t invested much in the secondary yet, in terms of FA money or high draft picks. I’m guessing that time is coming this year (though it didn’t in FA).

          • willbest

            We are spending ~$25 million on our top 5 CBs presently. which is more than we are spending on our offensive line. The only group we are spending more on is LBs and that should change when they cut Houston. They are cutting Houston right? There is no fucking way we should pay him $7 million this year.

          • Per Spotrac, the top 5 CB cap hits add up to around $20M. That includes $3M for Fuller, who they inherited and can’t do anything about that fully guaranteed money, and $1.5M for McManis, who is a STer, not a CB. It also includes $4M for Tracy Porter, who is likely to be cut in camp. Drop Porter and McManis (keep Porter dead money) and their likely top 5 CBs are at a total of about $16.5M.

            The OL starters add up to about $23M, with 2 of the 5 being on their rookie deals from outside of round 1. If you replace 5 starters with top 5 cap hits, that number is about $24M.

            But look more at draft capital + contracts given out by Pace.

            He’s spent a 2nd and 3rd round pick on OL + given out 2 sizable FA contracts on the OL.

            He’s spent a 4th round pick at CB and given out 1 sizable FA deal (Cooper) at CB. Amukamara is only a 1-year signing and Porter was not a sizable investment.

          • willbest

            Sorry top 5 DBs not CBs. And yes the inherited Fuller but that doesn’t change the financial commitment to the secondary this year.

          • That’s because they’ve pieced it together with overpriced mediocre vets. Their draft capital has basically ignored the secondary until now.

            Looking at day 1-2 picks, they’ve spent 2 on OL, 3 on front 7, and 1 on WR.

            0 on QB or secondary. Where do you think the high picks are going this year? I’ll be shocked if first 2 days don’t feature QB and S as 2 of the 3 picks.

          • But you’re absolutely right in $$. Spotrac says Bears have 5th most 2017 cap hit allocated to secondary. That’s what a bunch of overpriced decent veterans gets you.

            http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/positional/secondary/

          • Yes, but gotta remember that typically teams carry 6-7 Oline (5 starters, 1 extra OG or swing OT) while carrying 8-10 secondary players (starting nickle package, backup SS/FS/ 4rth CB for dime, maybe an extra if he plays specials or subpackages like “hybrid SS/LB” )

          • You think they’re cutting Porter?
            I think they brought in Prince and Cooper to oust him, but they seem to really like Porter.

            Prince is inj prone and a 1yr gamble, so extremely high risk to cut Porter for him.
            Fangio calls Fuller a pussy, so he’s half way out.

            Cooper et al still haven’t proven shit.

            Think it would be foolish to cut Porter this year.

            Now, if they draft a CB in the first 2rds, then that can change, but putting eggs in the Prince/Fuller/Cooper/Callahan basket is a bit much.

            Then again, they released Slauson for no apparent reason.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Can’t think of a reason for keeping Toast Porter around. Not one.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fangio calls Fuller a pussy. Hi Kettle? This Pot. You’re black!

          • I am really surprised Houston still on roster.
            I guess he doesn’t get extra cash for being on team till draft, or Pace figures he’s worth a lil extra to provide draft flexibility.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Cre’Von?

          • Sahr Gborie

            same here. this is the price we pay for angelo and emery not doing things right. great defense but not offensive fire power until the defense was on its last leg

          • MB30SD

            Agree. I have ptsd

          • willbest

            The bitch about White isn’t that he got hurt. Its that it was a complete luxury pick at a time when we were desperate for defensive talent. That he got hurt and played worse than our #5 WR while “healthy” was just icing on the cake.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Could not have said it better myself. V.Beasley was available. Imagine him and Floyd together

          • But White wasn’t a “luxury” pick in the sense that Bmarsh was out the door, and POX were not sold on Alshon (obviously).

            If White blows up this yr, he’s our #1WR and fits a need.

            If he doesn’t, just bad luck.

            If we had picked Beasly instead of White, and he gets a rod inserted into his leg and misses first two years, we’re talking about him being a bust too, regardless of “need”.

          • willbest

            You are grasping. Heading into the 2015 draft we had AJ, Royal, Wilson. Which was a veritable powerhouse relative to what we were sporting at any position group on defense. The only position we were better set was TE with our 1-2 punch of Bennett and Miller.

          • AJ was the only one of those who was a true #1.

            Royal was always meant to be slot, maybe a #2. Basically Wheaton level.

            Wilson? really? No way. Late rd dart throw who Pace had no connection with.

            Pace knew ahead of time that he would need a WR. At that time, White was the consensus BPA on many boards.

            Ppl want GMs to go BPA, but then complain when they don’t reach for need.

            Like I said, if Beasley is hurt his first two seasons, he’s in the same bust boat as White.

            “need” has nothing to do with it.

            In fact, it could be argued, we have a bigger need at WR than OLB this season, so White can help out the team more using that logic.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I only saw Alshon be a #2 (to Bmarsh) .. he’s a different animal when it’s all on him. Softness.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m hoping Kevin has a great year.

      • BerwynBomber

        Texans too. Even if they sign Romo (or Cutler) they seem almost certain to take a QB.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I will never understand that. He’s a ‘steal’ in the third. Does his ability to play football increase the lower the round he’s picked? He will either be a good QB or not. He’s only ever a ‘steal’ if he’s good, and the probability is that he isn’t.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        “and the probability is that he isn’t.” coming from the guy that had a hard on for Fales.

  • BearDown100393

    “Mahomes doesn’t turn the ball over as often as Favre did in the NFL”

    You cannot compare college to the NFL.

    “but I suspect a large part of the reason for that was because he was playing against crappy Big 12 defenses.”

    Uh okay.

    So what exactly is the point? Is he a turnover machine a la Favre or not?

    • Bender McLugh

      smaller hands = turn over machine in more than just INTs

      • leftcoast dave

        You mean girlfriends too?

        • Bender McLugh

          haha probably

      • Tortured Bear fan

        smaller hands = jack off problems

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          small hands not equalling success is a myth. Trump has small hands and he’s president.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Can he throw a deep 15 and out?

    • Andrew Dannehy

      It’s true for college too. Favre was INT’d on 2.9% of his passes in college, Mahomes was on 2.1%. We don’t know if he’s going to be a turnover machine in the NFL, my projection which was spelled out in the next sentence is that he has to be more careful or he will be a turnover machine.

  • Big Mike

    So basically Jay Cutler with Grossman’s hands?

    • Sahr Gborie

      damn. you didnt have to do the kid like that. wait till he makes a few throws

      • Big Mike

        Well I hope he’s a stud. But the analysis was gunslinger with big arm, bad fundamentals and turns the ball over a lot, with small hands. I mean those were the words used.

        • Sahr Gborie

          I hear you. If hes coming to us then i too hope he is a stud, if not let him flame out. I’m not against drafting him if he is there in the 3rd or 4th.

          • MB30SD

            4th+, there’s still big value to be had in the 3rd, don’t piss it away on a Grossman/Cutler Frankenstein.

            That’s like saying to our D… You guys are small… But you’re slow.

        • Irish Sweetness

          That’s beyond a ‘project’ .. .that’s like …. a bad pick. If you’re hitting the pro league and you have bad fundamentals … it’s so much easier to just not draft the guy.

          • Big Mike

            On the other hand.. Bad fundamentals can be corrected. Physical ability is either there or not. I have no idea what the Bears should do at QB.

    • CanadaBear

      The Bears must have this!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Bender McLugh

        lol

    • BerwynBomber

      He can ad-lib more than Cutler. Better natural instincts. Hence, the Favre comparisons.

      But yeah, Mahomes definitely has red flags. An inability to guide his team to a .500 record isn’t optimal either.

      • willbest

        I tend to think Cutler did better when he ad-libbed, it was when he got stuck on his first read that we had the most problems.

        • BerwynBomber

          Without the time or interest to go thru eight or nine years of game tape, I’d bet he made an equal amount of mistakes ad-libbing. Plus, despite his decent speed, Cutty was never the most nimble/agile guy. It is one of the reasons, beyond natural instincts, that his pocket navigation skills were only average.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Methinks Cutty’s reading was not good. Not Jimmy Mac good.

    • “Exciting!”

  • leftcoast dave

    “While he benefited from a lot of YAC, Mahomes made enough plays outside the system that I’m not worried about it.”
    To paraphrase the judge from a favorite movie, “counsel, what’s a yoot?”
    YAC?

    • Governerd

      Yards after catch.
      Edit: My Cousin Vinny is one of the all time greatest movies.

      • leftcoast dave

        But of course!

    • willbest

      The argument being it was more the receiver making plays. Then again it could have been Mahomes throwing his receivers open.

      • leftcoast dave

        Or the reality of broken plays (Rodgers) resulting in broken coverage and YAC.

  • leftcoast dave

    Not sure if this is damning with faint praise or a half hearted endorsement.

    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4705281/dominik-glennon-has-chance-to-be-like-joe-flacco

    • Sahr Gborie

      can it be both?

      • leftcoast dave

        “I never said he was going to be (good bad). I just said . . . “

        • MB30SD

          “Patrick manholes is our quarterback”?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            tell the truth. You got a little excited typing that.

          • MB30SD

            Nnnnnnnnnno.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tee-hee!

    • willbest

      Cutler drew a lot of comparisons to Flacco. So my first guess would be that the author was on a deadline and just recycled shit he wrote 3 years ago about Cutler. But seeing as how it is JD, and the Cutler hate was strong with him, I suspect he doesn’t even realize he wrote a piece like that 3 years ago.

    • I think the comparisons to Flacco may stick.

      The obvious is his stature, but Flacco is also a “quiet” leader, not a rah rah Favre type. Glennon might be more of Flacco in that sense.

      Arm is good, though hard to imagine equal to Flacco’s (few are). Durability TBD.

      But by most accounts, Glennon has the “intangibles” that lift players around him. They only go so far though (see Hasselbeck/McCown).

      And must remember, it’s not as if Flacco is Brady/Brees/Vadgers level either, but I think that’s what Domnick was eluding to when he claimed Glennon ‘could be Flacco but better’ –

      That’s a bit overly optimistic, but this guy drafted him, so obviously he’s going to defend his pick and relay the positives he scouted.

  • CanadaBear

    Not sure why Andrew doesn’t care about Mahomes mechanics. If he’s going to another team I don’t care either but if he ends up on the Bears, better clean that shit up. Cutler never has and it bit him in the ass constantly.

    • willbest

      Stafford and Rodgers aren’t always the cleanest either. Something about 1200 pounds of man meat rushing at you that causes a person to take some short cuts.

      • BerwynBomber

        Most of the times I would not want my QB imitating Rodgers. He is a singular talent.

        And both Stafford and Cutler have had TO and decision-making problems in their careers. The sketchy mechanics might not be a coincidence.

  • leftcoast dave

    “To me, the biggest concern about Mahomes is his ability to play within structure.”

    You want mechanics and playing within the structure of a pro style offense, C. J. Beathard in the fifth round. Football family, played at Iowa against Big Ten D’s and ran a run first offense.

  • CanadaBear

    Not sure if Brady is kidding (I don’t think so) when he says he wants to play another 5-6 years. Unless he’s the luckiest SOB of all time (he just might be), he should rethink this plan. One of these days he’s going to get smoked and if he hangs on forever, he might get permanently smoked. Not that I’m hoping that happens but I wouldn’t shed any tears if it did.

    • willbest

      Pats are acting like its Brady’s last year. I have to believe they could have easily gotten a pair of 2nds for G, but didn’t. They traded away their first, second, and forth rounds this year, and spent big on FA so they aren’t going to get any comps next year.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Do comps really matter when you hoisting the Lombardi Trophy?

        • willbest

          Only if you want to continue to hoist lombardi trophies.

      • Agree. They’re all-in.
        The fact that they’re not willing to trade Jimmy G when he might hit the market next yr for free also is another sign.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        maybe they realized that their draft picks have not really panned out for a few years and didn’t want to take the chance

    • BearDown100393

      Permanently smoked Brady. What’s the downside.

      • CanadaBear

        I don’t cheer for players to get hurt (bad juju) but I sure as hell wouldn’t feel bad if Brady got broken. He’s lived such a charmed life at some point he’s going to get injured if he keeps taunting fate. You’d think he would look at turtle head and realize both of them could have ended up in wheel chairs.

        • BearDown100393

          Reminds me of the fighter that got his face pummeled deliberately by Jake in Raging Bull.

  • 505Bears

    Lived in Lubbock while this guy was there. I mean for flag football, this guy is an all-star, no doubt. But he played against no defenses worth anything, had to chuck it like 60 times each game to keep up because his defense was crap. He seemed small, though he’s listed at 6’3, 230. I just don’t buy it, then again, I’m not paying the bills.

    • He looked kinda smallish too me too, Then again, I think Favre was like 6’2, but when you’re made of titanium and popping pills, stature doesn’t factor as much.

  • “Mahomes needs to be thrown in the deep end and the coach that does it needs to hope he does more good than bad…”

    Does that sound like John Fox to you? This is the guy who rode Jake Delhomme well past when he was done because he didn’t want to deal with a young QB making mistakes while learning on the job. A guy who played the Mitch Unreins and Tracy Porters of the world down the stretch last year over young guys they had just invested draft picks in and wanted to develop.

    Yeah, I totally believe he would play Mahomes and live with his mistakes instead of wasting time throwing Glennon out there, or even Sanchez if Glennon gets hurt.

    • willbest

      Pace probably realized this which is why we got stuck with Glennon. This year is about getting rid of Fox.

      • MB30SD

        Hope so

      • Sahr Gborie

        amen to that

      • Sahr Gborie

        Since my Harbaugh fantasy is not likely to happen who are realistic options to replace Fox?

        • willbest

          Toubs! but that is just me. Otherwise just go around the league and poach coordinators on good teams.

          • MB30SD

            Matt. Patricia.

          • willbest

            Can’t be sure its not Hoodie

          • MB30SD

            there has to be a reason that dude isn’t an HC yet. HAS to be… thus, no thanks.

            That said, I’d LOVE to have him back as our specials coach.

          • CanadaBear

            I think he’s a lot like Fangio. Football lifers that aren’t all that polished. That scares the crap out of most owners. I think both of them would make decent HC’s.

          • MB30SD

            see, I want to go the other direction.

            If I’m going to pick a D coach, I go with Patricia. Yeah, he’s in the system, but it’s mostly an O system that darthhoodie runs so I really like to think he’d be a bad ass.

            I was hoping some team would give him a shot this year so we could see… at the very least, I’m super curious about it.

          • Or McDouche, or maybe that HC from Stanford.

          • MB30SD

            sure, anyone but one of these old guard, old guy coaches.

            fuck that shit, let’s get the next tomlin

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why do y’all love Fangio? What has that no-balls peckerwood done to suggest he can be a HC.

        • BearDown100393

          Romeo Crennel

        • Irish Sweetness

          I honestly don’t believe it matters. QB. OL. DL. Play football. Score more points. Like that.

      • I wanted both Fox and Cutler gone since wk 4 last season.

        I was hoping Fangio would at least get a shot at interim to see how he does.

        And if they all suck, well, we could’ve started with a new HC/QB combo this year.

        But I guess that process is delayed a yr. Hopefully, Pace drafts some studs so that this team will be stocked for the real regime.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fox gets a raw deal. He’s been there and done that. He’s had a shitty defense, and an anemic offense. Is that his fault? Partially. But the defensive personality is Fangio’s, and the roster is ultimately on Pace. And in fairness, we weren’t giving up a lot of penalties. We were well coached in that respect.That’s Fox’ job – not the roster sucking.

    • Tortured Bear fan

      Exactly!! what´s the deal with Fox running a clear “Team under construction”

    • Concur.
      When we anticipate what Fox will do in the off-season, or in-game, or even debating if he puts ketchup on his steaks.

      We must always remember:

      WWLD?

      (What would Lovie do?)

      Would Lovie play an up-in-comer when he has a perfectly old injured vet around? Of course not! .

      #AlbinoLovie

      • Irish Sweetness

        He lost Rex for the year and started a rookie that went 10-6 ….

  • Sahr Gborie
  • in real life I’m actually very sarcastic. It took a few months for my now-wife to adjust to that when we started dating. She used to think I was mad at her all the time.

    • MB30SD

      Hahahaha… Chicks usually aren’t equipped with the sarcasm Gene.

      • willbest

        It’s an American trait too. I have met quite a few foreigners that tell me its hard for them to adjust because their initial take is that the person is being mean. And people say we don’t have a culture

        • MB30SD

          don’t know if I go all in on that one… seems like a language barrier thing. Have you ever met a frenchman or a dirty ozzie for that matter?! Dodgy cunts.

          • willbest

            Not many. Typically on a short term basis where it was all business. But the south Africans, Indians (dot), East Asians, and Middle Easterners that I have dealt with have found it (ed. mean). I suppose it would be a distinctly European trait, but I haven’t found the Irish or Aussies to use it all that much. Then again, those groups can get rowdy if things get impolite.

      • Tis but a flesh wound!

    • Yes, esp if you say it with a straight face. Sometimes I have to smile to let them know I’m joking, lest I be viewed as a dick. Well, bigger dick.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    I highly doubt Pace wants Mulatto Cutler.

    • BerwynBomber

      I wonder if he will even last till the second round. This “next Favre” impression of AD’s isn’t exactly new. His upside might be too tough for one of the QB starved teams — or even a team with a pending succession issue — to pass up.

      • willbest

        Wasn’t Favre launching footballs into the upper deck for lulz? Can Mahomes do that?

        • BerwynBomber

          Don’t know about his cannon — but others attest to it. But if you watch his highlight tape, yeah, his game resembles the hillbilly diva’s in a big way.

        • Irish Sweetness

          What’s with all the Favre love? That’s one fucker who didn’t know how to protect the ball.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            will is a closet packer fan.

    • MB30SD

      Mulatto cutler. Baaaahahahhahaaha

      • Sahr Gborie

        dude what decade is he from?

        • MB30SD

          Manholes… the last one one?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Manhole, I like it, or Mahomo (NTTAWWT).

          • MB30SD

            manhole is more PC. I got nuthin against gay dudes (or chicks). I don’t give a shit who you like to fuck, just don’t push your shit on me… like religion or anything else.

          • You don’t like getting your shit pushed, eh? That’s not what I heard!

            (NTTAWWT)

            (You’re making this too easy for me, MB)

          • MB30SD

            I heard that too. I heard I’m good too! Boom!!

        • DaCoaches Mustache

          I’m sorry, bi-racial Cutler. My mistake, Mr. Gborie.

          • Sahr Gborie

            not offended sir. im just aware that some will take it the wrong way

          • MB30SD

            dude, wtf… stop trynna change our culture noob!! who elected you the fucking DBB PC police chief!?!?

            That’s Trac’s job asshole. smh.

  • BerwynBomber
  • MB30SD
  • willbest

    Jay has apparently begun his porn career

    https://www.instagram.com/p/BSMAbIpjmDV/?hl=en

    • MB30SD

      YIKES!!!

      Dude!!! Warnabrutha!!!

      I did NOT need an eyefull of jay cutler’s ass this morning.

      • willbest

        the word porn wasn’t enough warning?

        • MB30SD

          yes, and I was expecting boobies… like any normal guy would… not jay cutler’s bare kiester. smh.

          • willbest

            Look… sometimes its for you, and sometimes its for waffle.

          • MB30SD

            you spelled butch wrong.

            NTTAWWT

          • willbest

            I am not currently aware of any Hoyer nudes available on the internet.

          • MB30SD

            bummer, sorry butch, looks like you’ll have to do your googling for now.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Does she even consult with him? Or was that like .. .click! …. insta!

        • MB30SD

          Probably. I’d be like, “babe!! What the fuc… Ah, fuckit, we have $100m… I don’t give a shit”

  • Sactowns#1

    We need to do something because so far it looks like Pace is trying to build the Serpentor of suck out of some crummy QB’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serpentor

    • willbest

      I for one plan to spend as much money on the Bears as I did last year, which is $0

  • MB30SD
    • Sactowns#1

      There’s no way I want us taking a DB in the 1st, unless we have two first round picks.

      • MB30SD

        http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/2017-nfl-mock-draft/ss-BByDKcm?li=BBnb7Kz#image=1

        it’s the popular thing, all the kids are doing it.

        I do. Our secondary is 10 years of fucking dogshit EXACTLY because of that attitude yo. Take Jamal Adams and run to the fucking bank.

        Go watch Mike Brown highlights, you’ve obviously forgotten what it’s like to have a real NFL safety back there G$.

        Don’t make me jump in my time machine, travel back to when you were down here so I can slap you up side yo face!

        • evantonio
          • MB30SD

            fuck me.

            I think I need a tissue (you decide which orifice needs wiping).

          • willbest

            I would have gone with this

        • SS at #3? dubious.
          I say Thomas/Buddha 1&2, and call it a day.

          Or, if we want to take a risk on that japanese-french fusion dish, get some Hooker and BPA in 2nd.

          • SC Dave

            Acceptable.

          • MB30SD

            sure, I’m down with either of those scenarios.

            That said, erra one else (all the “experts”) seem to think Adams IS worth is and IS going to be our pick.

            I’m actually ok with any of the three just proffered.

          • How about CB at #3?

          • Irish Sweetness

            After signing coop and Prince? Not feeling it at #3.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Every mufuh in da bizniss is mocking Adams to us.

          • MB30SD

            jeeees… jeeeeeeeeeeeeeessssssss irish!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Damn, look at Leonard. He looks like Isaac Hayes. Chef at halfback!!

          Well Hell-oooo chilllllldren!

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha, I was like, damn… Homie looks like a fucking man playing football with boys. Dude is a beast

      • willbest

        You are going to make MB cry.

        • MB30SD

          see below.

          Fuck crying… I take action bitches. Time machine here I come!

  • BearDown100393

    Well Jay’s rear end might break the internet.

    • CanadaBear

      Lucky him! My Beloved Bride is a photographer by trade and I’m always on high alert when she’s around. Really sneaky with those phones.

      • BearDown100393

        Probably a new endorsement for an insulin injection.

        • CanadaBear

          No vaccines need apply!

          • BearDown100393

            Zika virus right in the rear.

      • MB30SD

        Yikes!

    • AlbertInTucson

      That was an uncalled for….crack.

  • willbest

    No leaping? the NFL should just change FG’s. Make it a box of X sq. ft, the shape of which to be determined by the home team, as is its placement so long as the entire box is within the sidelines.

  • willbest

    No yellow card if the hit to the head is severe. Automatic ejection. Which I presume means a light graze if you are Aaron Rodgers, and a decapitated head if you are Mike Glennon.

    • MB30SD

      ’tis but a scratch!

    • BearDown100393

      You would need a ladder to decapitate Mike Glennon’s head.

      • MB30SD

        • willbest

          I saw the setup. I knew what was going to happen. And it was still hilarious.

        • BearDown100393

          The build up to that scene was great.

        • Sactowns#1

          That giraffe has way better muscle tone than Glennon. Hell, I’ve seen spaghetti with more muscles.

      • Ososfan

        Haha haha!

  • AlbertInTucson

    Not necessarily saying Mahomes wouldn’t be worth a flyer.

    Then again, Texas Tech has not exactly been an NFL QB factory.

    Unless you really admired Billy Joe Tolliver.

    • SC Dave

      There is a blast from the past… holy shit.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      He was fricken AWESOME!!!!

  • BerwynBomber

    Competition Committee approving Centralized Replay.

    Good move and long overdue. Saw too many games over the years where the replay booths seemed as swayed by home crowds as the officials on the field.

    • And like someone else mentioned, seemed like a conflict of interest when the crew had to overturn themselves.

      Hopefully it’s streamlined.

      When I began watching a lil baseball as of late, I was pleasantly surprised at how fast the process was. The NFL should hope to emulate such efficiency.

      • BerwynBomber

        That’s the only thing in baseball that moves fast.

    • AlbertInTucson

      If the game ref is still involved in the call, they’ve just re-arranged the deck chairs.

  • BearDown100393

    Did the Yoko Anti-Vaxer ruin Jay?

    • Wasn’t the Cutlerite narrative that she, and the kids, helped Cargo transcend being a TO/inj prone dooooon’t care QB to a mature new born bristling with leadership, film study, superior mechanics, pocket presence and decision making?

      Guess not.

      • MB30SD

        eeeerrrrrrrrr…. ka ka ka ka.

        I hear the Luftwaffle’s engines kicking over in the distance!

        • Gonna defend a guy in cargo shorts sipping Shirley Temples on the beach?

          • MB30SD

            with his bare ass hangin out.

            Fucken A… I wish I had $100M. Fuck the wife part, but I’d be havin’ the hot lady of that night befo insta-ing bare ass shots of me erra fucking day from some tropical island.

          • For $100M, I would buy some island in Burma and proclaim myself a poet-warrior-king with an entourage of hot bitches who are also ninja guards.

          • MB30SD

            sounds like a good plan.

            I’ll come visit to teach ninjaisms

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude, you’re talking thousands of dollars there, not tens of millions. That bad-ass of a warlord would relieve of you of that though.

            Any of you rich-ass Bear-lovers want to retire in style, you give the Irish a call! ‘Wives’ thrown in ….

          • leftcoast dave

            Thrown in. I like that. You near a volcano?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ritual sacrifice, Dave? I like it. Not a lot, but I like it.

          • leftcoast dave

            I guess it’s an “ex-wife” thing. If not a volcano, maybe an ocean would do. Get it, would, or wood, or Wood? (Think real hard on that one.)

          • leftcoast dave

            I’ll give you a hint. Think, Nathalie.

          • MB30SD
          • leftcoast dave

            Yo, bad.

          • MB30SD

            Love that series. Good shit

          • willbest

            Its closer to 50 million after taxes, and agent fees and all that other shit. Plus he probably has another 10 million tied up in non-income real estate, and his wife has probably pissed away another 5 million on god knows what. Plus another 10 million in his BS charitable foundation. 25 million. Figure 3% income and he has to get by on 750k a year.

          • MB30SD

            Rough

  • Pace tried to out and out trade for Glennon last year but Bucs wouldn’t budge. Pace genuinely loves Glennon. – Jeff

    I read the same, and if true, hope this dispels the “Pace was happy with Cutler” angle.

    – Pace was stuck with un-dumpable contract
    – Even still, Pace was rumored to want Mariotta but price too high
    – Pace was rumored to want Wentz, but same deal
    – Pace went out and got Hoya who uspurped Cargo
    – Pace trying to make a move for Glennon, but Tampa wanted a 2nd to start most likely
    – Pace linked to Jimmy G, but again, the Pats want the kitchen sink for him, likely a 1st and 2nd to start.

    In other words, Pace HAS been searching for a QB to replace Cutler from the very start, but he simply felt other teams, be it the Titans, Browns, Bucs or Pats, demanded too much for that opportunity given our dearth of talent.

    Edit. And those are just the QBs that we heard of. Certainly Pace was trying some other moves that fell through as well.

    • CanadaBear

      Nothing against Jay and if he retires, good on him. One thing the Cutler fans can’t say is the Bears were unfair to him at the end. They released him early in the process so there were no issues. Even with that, crickets. Who knows? Maybe he’s still injured and not actively looking. No matter what, don’t care!!!!!!!

      • willbest

        We don’t know if it is crickets. All we know is Cutler doesn’t want to play for whatever is being offered. And if you don’t think the 9ers, Jets, Browns haven’t at least thrown out an offer to see if it sticks, you are nuts. Even if it were 1-year $8 million

        • CanadaBear

          Again, don’t know, don’t care.

          • MB30SD

            this

      • Irish Sweetness

        I think he’s done C-Bear. Happy retirement.

        • CanadaBear

          Unless the fire burns bright, why risk more physical harm?

    • Sactowns#1

      You know what would have solved all this? Drafting Jimmy G in the second round when I was SCREAMING for them to pick him up.

      • You did want him, but you think Emery and Trestman were about to cut ties with Cutler after both went all-in and made him the highest paid QB?

        Boy, did they tie their careers to the wrong horse.

        Now all three can chuckle over it at Del Boca Vista.

        And who needs Jimmy G when we got Ego Ferguson!?

    • ButtonShoes

      The fact that Pace seems to genuinely like Mike Glennon depresses the hell out of me.

      • It’s all relative.

        Pace liked Glennon more than Cargo. Is that depressing? not to me (and not to the rest of the NFL either)

        Pace like Glennon more than Hoyer. Ok, debatable, when $ is factored into the equation, but terribly disappointing? not really.

        Liked Glennon more than throwing two 1st rders + for Jimmy G, Marriotta, Wentz?

        Well, this gets a little more dicey, but one can def understand Pace not wanting to give up so much draft stock (and in the case of Mariotta and Wentz, also flushing $15M down the drain for Cutty).

        Which QB would you have preferred Pace to go after?

        • ButtonShoes

          Hoyer. Because keeping Hoyer would be cheap, and leave no doubt as to his intentions: to draft a QB.

          • willbest

            I think Hoyer is a great way to lose, but I would much rather spend $6 million that San Fran paid him than $16 million for Glennon. I would love to be wrong on this one. But I seriously doubt I will be.

          • How much is the possibility to sign Flacco worth?

            Apparently, Pace calculated it was worth $10M more than to re-sign Hoyer.

            If Glennon ends up being the real deal, ppl are gonna be mad at Pace for not locking him up for longer.

            If Glennon flames out, he’s cut. No fuss, and the QB search continues.

            If Glennon is an avg QB, then that contract is rather cheap in comparison to the Oz contracts of the NFL.

          • Irish Sweetness

            At 5-13 he has to improve to become average … but I think he might have the window to improve, and Pace has seen that. Sanchize? Nah.

          • That Bucs team was horrible. They earned that Winston pick.

            No one knows better than us about the absolute suckage that is a Lovie Offense.

          • leftcoast dave

            Yep, throw a QB to the wolves without what is needed in the O line or the rest of the pieces around him. All the more reason to be picking LB and OT one and two.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The OT might be a good call in two. I’m not buying into Massie. Ever.

          • MB30SD

            (shivers)

          • willbest

            If glennon is the real deal people are not going to give a shit if we have to pay him 25 mil a year in 2 years.

          • BerwynBomber

            One nit, though. QB salaries are ever-rising. Jay was the highest paid QB in the league three or four years ago at 22.5M. Today that would be around 26 or 27.

            Hence, Glennon’s salary should be viewed in that light.

            Also, at the time of Glennon’s signing his salary next year was in-line to be the lowest among all QBs not on a rookie contract. Of course, that could change as SF might roll with Hoyer or even Cutler might come in lower if a team is interested.

            Lastly, unlike the Emery contract for Cutler, Glennon’s is basically a one year deal. If he shits the bed in ’17 we can pretty much move on from him w/out much of a financial hit in ’18 (or keep him around as a back-up).

          • Irish Sweetness

            18 brah, guaranteed. From Cutty and 12.5 … to 18.

          • Signing Glennon doesn’t prevent us from drafting a QB.

            It’s a one year deal essentially.

            Pace could draft Trub #3 overall, and no one would bat an eye.
            And NO ONE wanted to draft a QB that high this yr anyways.

            As to whether he “overpaid” – like I said – it’s not our $.

            Pace wasn’t going to transfer that extra $ to buy an FA.

            I was probably the 1st one on this board that wanted Hoyer for cheap while ppl were still saying shit like “Cutler isn’t that bad”, but it can be argued that Hoyer hit his ceiling and Pace wanted a better ceiling and was willing to pay extra for it.

            There’s also the other REAL possibility that Hoyer did NOT want to remain on the Bears and informed Pace he wanted to reunite with his old coach in SF, but obviously Pace can’t print, “No one wanted to join the Bears”.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But signing 3 QBs in no time would preclude them from drafting a QB I thought …

          • Which 3 are those?

            Glennon is the only real option.

            Sanchize, Shaw, Foles, WrigleyField peanut thrower…they’re just there until the real slim shady steps up

          • MB30SD

            Please, I built the fucking Hoyer wagon. How dare you!!!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            good thing you did. I am glad the wheels fell off that thing.

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha.. fuuuuck you. Seeya!

        • willbest

          The rest of the NFL liked Glennon to the tune of 8-10 million. We paid 16 million

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’m just glad he likes somebody

  • AlbertInTucson

    Hawks surrender 12 goals in 2 games in The (Fake) Sunshine State including pissing away a 4-1 lead in less than 1 period so they can lose in O.T.

    Concerning?

    • SC Dave

      It’s early

      • AlbertInTucson

        Tampa still has a good shot at a playoff spot, on the outside and looking in right now, but 7 goals allowed and blanked by the Panthers?

        • SC Dave

          Its preseason

    • willbest

      Are they resting? They have an 8 point lead in the Western with 6-7 games to go.

    • Bender McLugh

      Nah, end of the season & odd line changes. And, well, it’s Floriduh

    • Ososfan

      I’m a little concerned…

  • BerwynBomber
    • willbest

      Of course the flip side of that is the Fins have $24 million of dead money on the Tannehill contract, so Gase has to be happy with the QB situation until after this season year when there is only $4.6 million of dead money.

      But beyond that, you are offering up a 5 year younger Tannehill with a knee or Cutler with a throwing shoulder/hand injury (second time).

  • “But if Favre were never traded to Green Bay, he never would’ve had the career he had.” – Andy

    So Mahomes would be a perfect pick…for the Puke.

    I already did my ‘scouting’ report on him, but I think my general impression is watching him is like doing a line of coke off the ass of a vegas stripper (not thunder down under MB).

    Here’s some of his tape.

    http://draftbreakdown.com/?s=mahomes

    Personally, I’d prefer Peterman.

    “The legend of Favre has been told over and over, but people often forget how close it came to never happening” –

    Well, part of that reason was because Favre was also a drunk early in his career showing up to meetings reeking of Mississippi Mud.

    I have a more philosophical objection to the “Favre”esque comps.

    Is that style of QB even viable anymore?

    Look at the most consistent QBs, Wilson, Brady, Brees, Vadgers…they’re not “gunslingers” but rather “system” guys.

    The only one that even comes close to Favre-esque is Big Ben, and he’s 6’5 250 and debating retiring already. Cam and Luck might be two others, but they surrrreee take a pounding, and again, are about 6’5 230ish

    If you’re willing to take those big shots, you must be tough as nails like Favre, or have a big ass frame.

    Mahomes fits either of those?

    Dunno. But I think that the days of the ‘gun-slinging” qbs have gone the way of big shoulder pads and pagers.

    The new breed are more along the lines of Wilson, Carr or even Cousins.

    • willbest

      Brady’s “system” consists of 1,283 different plays, as does Brees. Wilson and Rodgers are just exceptional in extending plays.

      • BerwynBomber

        True, though Rodgers is almost like an OC given his ability to mentally process pre-snap. Peyton was like that too.

        What was the old joke about the coaching match-up when NE would face IND: Peyton vs. Belichick?

        It’s that way with GB even though guys like Aikman and Collingsworth love stroking McCarthy.

    • MB30SD

      but…. ABS!!!!!

      • Sound familiar?

        Weaknesses:Can be inconsistent in his approach. Needs to play inside the offense and show more discipline. Too eager to go big game hunting. Ravenous appetite for the explosive play can also bring unwanted trouble. Willingness to default to playground style appears to limit his ability to get into a consistent rhythm. Needs to improve anticipatory reads and learn to take what the defense gives him. Decision making can go from good to bad in a moment’s notice. Operates from a narrow base and allows his upper body and arm to race ahead of his feet. Has a dip and wind-up in his standard release. Explosive delivery and follow-through causes some throws to sail. Needs better touch on intermediate and deep balls. Carries ball a little low in the pocket. Impatient. Will leave pocket prematurely rather than standing in and winning in rhythm. Better as a scrambler than pure runner. Looked a little less mobile in the open field this season.

        Comparison….Jay BareAss Cargo Cutler

        http://www.nfl.com/draft/2017/profiles/patrick-mahomes?id=2558125

        This dude needs like 2-yrs in intense reprogramming Clock Work Orange style.

        • MB30SD

          How about we just PAAAAAAASSSSSSS on that motherfucker altogether?!

          Obiwannahugesafety in the 3rd or 4th!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude, he’s a second rounder. But if we trade down, we can get him AND Budda.

          • MB30SD

            we’ll see

          • SC Dave

            6′ fucking 4″ safety!

    • SC Dave

      Fuck yeah… 20 fucking of Favre, and what, one Super Bowl? Dilfer did as well.

  • BerwynBomber

    A statement to send shudders through any team’s fan base (in this case NYG’s) …

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/19026138/new-york-giants-hail-signing-quarterback-geno-smith

    • I said this a few times, but the Gmen are getting really tired of Eli’s TOs.
      If any fanbase can understand, it’s the Bears.

      They drafted Nassib a few years back, and it wouldn’t surprise me at all if they draft Watson or Trub if they happen to fall in the 1st.

      • BerwynBomber

        But Eli is Rodgers/Brady-like compared to Geno’s TD/INT ratio.

        I think it is less being tired of Eli and more being aware of his age and the fact that his arm is starting to look Peyton in DEN-like. Sometimes it is easy to forget how long Eli has been around given that he will always be the kid brother.

    • MB30SD

      Kind like, “Mike Glennon is our QB”?

      • Do we have any Nigerians on our team?

        • MB30SD

          yes, but I proffer that we need two more:

          1. Njoku (nigerians love calling thier kids david for some reason)
          2. Obiwannahugesafety

          • I say we draft that Nigerian stuck in the space station #3 over all.

          • MB30SD

            Can he play?!

            Maybe we can convince our own Dr. to come play

          • Irish Sweetness

            That fucker got airlocked after the poor response

          • SC Dave

            6′ fucking 4″ baby!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Christian Okoye please. And Obi Wan. Or Njoku.

      • BerwynBomber

        In his limited time, Glennon’s #s look noticeably better than Geno’s.
        #understatement

        • MB30SD

          I was just taking the opty to make a misplaced joke.

      • BearDown100393

        Mike Glennon is our STARTING quarterback.

        • MB30SD

          at least he doesn’t have small hands

        • BerwynBomber

          After eight years of Cutler, I’m fine with trying that statement out for a year.

          • BearDown100393

          • MB30SD

            Stick it in!

          • MB30SD

            man, he’s a goofy lookin’ dude.

          • Glennon came out in Children of the Corn.

          • MB30SD

            weren’t they little creepy Aryan looking fucks?

            He just looks like a big goofy irish chicken.

            Here’s a pic of his mom: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/a/ae/Miss_Prissy.png

          • leftcoast dave

            Hey, wait a minute. Some Celts might be ginger, but barrel chested ginger, ok? Don’t be bashing the Irish, now. They can’t help it that the damn Vikings raped their women. Hell, the Vikings raped and pillaged all of Europe and made Kiev the biggest trading route Russia ever had.

          • MB30SD

            I’m down with irish peeps.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I watched a documentary on that Viking-Russian deal

            . Interesting people. I’d like to go back and fuck them up with some AR-15s … but interesting people.

            If you haven’t watched the drama series ‘Vikings’ it’s well worth watching. Mostly filmed in Ireland too (even when they’re pillaging England/France).

          • leftcoast dave

            Best thing was when the went to France, rowed up the river and King Louie (I think) said, “hey, lets just give them some loot and they will go away and not hurt us!” They did, the Vikings said, “hey, cool” and went back home and told everybody, “hey, check out this loot! We found some rubes who just gave us this shit to leave! Who wants to go back there with us to see what else they’ve got?”

            And thus was born French foreign policy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            More cracker than Aryan. In fact, they looked Irish, yes, the Children of The Corn were Irish inbreds … looking for potatoes

          • MB30SD
          • leftcoast dave

            Hey, without the Irish, there would be no NASCAR. Without NASCAR, what would all the crackers do on weekends?

          • MB30SD

            Their cousins?

          • leftcoast dave

            And when they get married, does that mean that they are no longer cousins?

          • MB30SD

            Uuummmmmmm…. SCDave? You live I’m SC, little help?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Malachai!

          • SC Dave

            This this this

    • BearDown100393

      Trade Eli to the Chargers.

      • Wouldn’t it be funny if all these yrs they trade Phillips for Eli, and then Phillps wins 2 SBs on the Gmen?

        So Chargers.

    • madscout12
  • madscout12

    I’m down on drafting this kid. But I definitely thought of Cutty more than Favre. His footwork is fucking awful. Like all over the place.

    • madscout12

      BTW, check out the throw at 22:30. And the play at 28:30. That’s all Favre.

      • SC Dave

        Who fucking cares!! Favre was a goddamn Packer.

        • MB30SD

          See, some things we agree on.

          And supposedly he was a cunt

        • Irish Sweetness

          This. Fuck him and his copper-stretch tights and his shitty blades-for-crackers. Never buy shit again!! Just this one-time-only 400 dollar bargain!!

    • If you check out this game of Mahomes you’ll see that Texas figured him out.

      http://draftbreakdown.com/video/patrick-mahomes-vs-texas-2016/

      They rushed 3 and had 1 spy who frequently rushed only after Mahomes stayed back looking for the big play.

      It worked much in the same way Manziel was figured out when teams forced him to throw within the pocket.

      Mahomes still put up some #s, but a lot of it was tempo and YAC.

      Mahomes is a 4rth rder at best, IMO.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Watched Bill Walsh’s A Football Life at the weekend – and that was the whole shebang … footwork.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep. Quick feet. That is why Walsh fell in love with Montana. It is also why Cutty was never very agile, despite being a good athlete.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I didn’t realize Walsh rubbed people up the wrong way, his players didn’t really feel him.

  • MB30SD

    you guys want a *serious* tip… because I love you… well, some of you. Ok, only very very few of you, but still.

    Anyway, you owe me, like BIG TIME. Like name your first born after me (or in waffle’s case, his 24th after me).

    I’m serious… If you like sleeping or if you’re single and you want chicks to LOVE your bed (it also helps if it’s big… that’s what she said), do yourself a favor and listen to me. These are the ONLY sheets I’ve bought in the last 5 years. I lucked into finding them while outfitting my first bachelor pad post-divorce and have never even thought about switching. I now have 4 sets. The ONLY issue I have with them, is that they’re so soft my washer (or dryer?) makes little holes in them after a while… I guess they get caught up?

    Anyway, just trust me on this, they will make your life better… really they will: https://www.bedbathandbeyond.com/store/product/pure-beech-reg-jersey-knit-modal-sheet-set/220475?Keyword=Pure+Beech%C2%AE+100%25+Modal+Jersey+Knit+Sheet+Set

    Enjoy and you’re welcome.

    • Yes, you’re “washer” or “dryer” make little “holes” in them after a while…

      I mean, I know there’s a lot of sailors in SD, but Relax Frankie, don’t do it.

      (NTTAWWT).

      • MB30SD

        Well, mecack IS small and very pointy, so it might be that.

        It’s time to replace those star trek sheets anyway maings… the 18 yr olds you date prolly don’t even know who spock is… “pappi, who’s the chivato with the weird ears?!”

        https://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5207266/il_570xN.329773937.jpg

        and I saw they have Twin size too!!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Highest TOG is the way to go, and no washing machines. It’s okay, you’re a dude ….

      • MB30SD

        what the… I live in SD yo. Need the sheets… specially in summer

        and I have 6 and 8 year old maings. I do more fucking washing every week that an old chinese guy in new york.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Synthetic? For reals?

          • MB30SD

            FO…. REALS.

    • leftcoast dave

      Dooode! Synthetic? Really? Not 100% cotton?

      Ok, I’ll get some to try for next WINTER because they also have cotton and wool.

      But Synthetic? (Look at that dude in the polyester double knit looser suit. Bet they had to kill a lot of polly esters to make that suit.)

      • MB30SD

        dude, please just trust me on this… as long as we’ve known each other and as good friends as we are….

        No seriously though, it’s $80, and I guarantee you’ll fucking LOOOOOVE them. And why wait till winter?! They are awesome in summer too. just listen to me, I don’t fuck around.

        here… here’s a satisfied customer review (besides the 1000 already up on BB&B @ 4.8 stars):

        “OMG MB, your bed is soooooo soft and comfortable. I looooove it. I could sleep here every night… after you ball me into complete and total ecstasy!”

        ~ Some random sloot I balled once

        • leftcoast dave

          Ok, being best buds for so long, even though I live in the desert and usually stick (no double entendre intended) to cotton, I will give them a shot. My secretary turned me on to BBB with their $20 (or is it 20%) off coupons.

          But I WILL report back.

          • MB30SD

            BOOM!

            $80 X 20% discount = So fucking worth it!

            You’re in PS? Fucking LOVE that town. in fact, my bro and I are taking our kids there in two weeks for their spring break.

            And you’re welcome.

          • leftcoast dave

            Just in time for the White Party! (No, they don’t wear hoods.)

            Do the guided hike in Tahquitz Canyon where the tribe has a good film on its history and you get to see lots of fun stuff on a hike you won’t believe is a mile from downtown. Then of course there’s the Tram where you can see the San Andreas Fault from 8,500 or so feet and it is clear as the lines on your palm. We used to hike up there back in the day all the way to the top. 0 to 10,800 in six hours.

          • MB30SD

            Thiiiiiink I’ll miss the white party. Whatever you do don’t go to the website. Except you butch, you’ve probably already been. NTTAWWT

            I’ve been going to PS since I was a little kid. My dad used to take us on vacation there and I have pics of a 7 yr old MB and my bro at the Living dessert. Love that place.

            My ex’s fam also has a little place in RM, so my kids have been going since they were babies too. Nice to have a fam tradition like that. My bro and I usually rent a house with a pool. We did the hotel thing (omni last time) but I hate people, so the house is better.

            I love Kobe, No Da Te, casuelas down town, the little pink french breakfast place in PD.

            Thanks for the tip, saw it last time and didn’t think the kids would dig it… Any other tips for places to eat or go? Appreciate the reach around.

          • leftcoast dave

            Age of kids? Both the Tram and the canyon hike are killer. If you want uniquely good and cheap (relatively) food, it’s Blue Coyote. Have a wild coyote maggie for a good buzz. Two and don’t drive. Three and you see Jesus. Great food, too. Also a great hike up in thousand palms canyon. Up on the bump and grind trail, you will see cacti in bloom. All good stuff.

          • MB30SD

            Nice! Thanks.

            They’re young… 6 and 8. So big hikes are a no.

            Thanks for the tips!

          • leftcoast dave

            The preserve off of Thousand palms canyon road is an easy trek and good humor. The Tram is a must. Great ride up to 8,500 feet and from the upper station go out to the patio and then up some stairs to a platform where they have plaques showing all of the geological features including the fault below. It is way cool and easy for the kids. From the desert floor 30 some feet above sea level to 8,500. Highest ascent in the world.

          • MB30SD

            Nice, gracias.

            Sorry forgot to say, we’ve done the tram 3 times already, once with my dad in winter. They loved it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            When do you take the shrooms?

        • SC Dave

          Fake news.

          • MB30SD

            possibly

  • Irish Sweetness

    We have three QBs under contract now. So signing Shaw was just for shits and giggles? They’re really geared up for bringing 3 QBs into the season on the full roster (if they draft one)?

    • leftcoast dave

      Shaw deserves another look and a shot. Sanchez is there to teach. C. J. Beathard, now he’s the future. Pro set, run first QB who can take off when needed rather than throw one up.

      “Beathard led Iowa to a 12-2 record and a Rose Bowl appearance as a
      junior, when he completed 61.6 percent of his passes for 2,809 yards, 17
      touchdowns and just five interceptions. But his productivity dropped
      last season, when he completed 56.6 percent of his passes for 1,929
      yards, 17 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. Iowa finished 8-5.”

      BTW three of those ints came in his last bowl game when he was severely hobbled and should never have been in the game. When they took second in the Big Ten in 2015, he had 17 T’s to 5 ints and 61.6% completion average as a junior.

      Projected in the late rounds.

      • SC Dave

        Agree on the Shaw thing.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Pace talking about stuff at the owner’s meeting. Noises about Hall moving to safety .. and sounds like he’s hoping for a phone call on draft day.

    • leftcoast dave

      Yep. Please, just make us an offer! We need more than just one potential impact player. Hall (dumb shit kid) has the tools to be a great FS and hopefully this little FU in Collegeville proves a learning experience.

  • Scharfinator

    A nice little bit of historical footage. Good quality too!

    http://dailysnark.com/super-clean-video-1939-football-game-surfaced-fascinating/

    • MB30SD

      can you imagine the looks on those guys faces if the 2016 Seahawks D lined up across from them?

      Hahahahaha, there would be so much pants shitting.

      • Scharfinator

        Depends what they had to wear… I imagine everyone’s brains would be on the ground if they suited up in the old stuff.

        • leftcoast dave

          Depends?

          • MB30SD

            see what he did there

  • Irish Sweetness

    Listening to that All-0access podcast on the Bears – the knock on Hooker for one guy is that he’s a one-year safety who seems to shun tackling. If he’s afraid to stick his mush in there …

    • MB30SD

      watch the game tape. I’m not worried about the one year thing… in that one year he had fucking 7 ints and 3 tds, so the upside is insane. One or two INTs, sure lucky maybe… SEVEN?!?!? Nah.

      He is indeed a pussy when it comes to tackling though. Like glaringly escared of it. Like dive at feet or pull up and try to jump on backs bad. scary a little, but if we want strictly a center fielder, I’d take him in a heartbeat.

      I mean, if there was a way to get both adams and hooker, we’d be set for the next 10 years (barring injury of course). that looks like a Kam/Thomas-level safety set to me.

      • SC Dave

        Adams >>>> Hooker

        • MB30SD

          TDB my maings.

          guess we’ll actually know in mmmmm…. 3 years-ish?

          • leftcoast dave

            Or after 30 days maybe never?

          • MB30SD

            Maybe

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’d feel safer with Adams and Obi Wan, even if they’re both SSs … football is football.

        • MB30SD

          Yeeeaaaahhhh, I think Adams could move to FS. He seems that athletic and fast. I wouldn’t mind that Como though.

          Butch seems to think obiwanarealsafety is shit.

      • Ososfan

        Beef him up, not scared about tackling or fundamentals too much, Ed Donnatel is still there so he should get used to it quickly..

        • MB30SD

          The love of hitting in football is not something you teach, it’s something you’re either born with… Or you’re a pussy

          • Ososfan

            Lmao! Well, thank god I wasn’t born a pussy!

  • MB30SD

    Hey gorbie… I was just fucking with you dood. Come back man

    • What did you do now? Did you flash him with that Geraldo Rivera nude you carry in your valcro wallet?

      • MB30SD

        It’s a pleather playboy billfold dude, get it right.

        • MB30SD

          And what’s a valcro wallet?

  • MB30SD

    Irish, have you watched storks with the girls?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Okay .. that’s not a heavily loaded question. MOVIES ! Right! No.

      Watchable for me? I still have to do Beauty and the Beast, I hear that’s good (from a girl).

      • MB30SD

        Fuuuuck batb.

        Yes, good. The wolf scene made me lalz… And I love Kelsey grammer’s voice. https://youtu.be/J2EzzOfBAZY

        Def watch it, they’ll love it. Sing was decent too… But def moana

        • Irish Sweetness

          Sing is like 2 hrs and 45 minutes. Fuck that noise. Is it worth it?

          The girls liked Moana. I see big samoan dudes and I just think of defensive ends.

          • MB30SD

            https://youtu.be/ubZrAmRxy_M

            Moana was good in every regard. Great songs too. The Rock was funny.

            Uhhh, sing was a 6ish for me. The girls would like it tho.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Noonian Soong gave him a sarcasm chip for when he was ready.

  • Irish Sweetness

    So Sanchez and Big Ben are the only two quarterbacks in NFL history to reach the conference championship in their first two seasons in the league. Mmmkay.

    Wait ….
    W/L: 37-35
    Career Percentage: 56.7%
    TD–INT: 86–86
    Passing yards: 15,219
    Passer rating: 73.9

    • willbest

      That was back when Revis Island was a thing and that D gave up something like 15 ppg.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        ssshhhhh!!!! Sanchez is the greatest ever!

    • BerwynBomber

      Sanchez played remarkably well in the post-season (compared to his regular season shit fest):

      W/L 4-2 (four road wins)
      Playoff percentage: 60.5%
      TD/INT: 9-3
      Passer rating: 94.1

  • Ososfan

    Huge fan of Mahomes, more than Watson, but I have a feeling he won’t be available in the second round so I never mention him…

    • MB30SD

      Why in God’s name dude… Do you not have a TV… Or a cerebral cortex for that matter?!?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is that Jesus attacking a flying saucer?

      • Ososfan

        Yes… Lol

  • Irish Sweetness

    Okay, how about a compromise pick?

    D’onta Foreman. 6’1 234-248lbs. Ran a pair of 4.45 40 times. Similar size and faster than Fournette.

    Might be there at the top of the 3rd? He’s a north-south runner with breakaway speed. Perfect for our interior. He’s Jordan-Plus!

    • they don’t need another Howard. They need a lightning complement to Howard’s thunder.

      A speedy back who’s a good pass catcher out of the backfield. A scatback, complementary type to make defenses prepare for 2 different styles.

      Somebody like Christian McCaffery would be perfect, but I doubt the Bears invest that highly in another RB, especially with much more pressing needs elsewhere.

      • Alvin Kamara might be a later rd option.
        He ran a slower than expected 40, so might fall, but I don’t see him surviving past the 3rd.

        Still. A Jamaal Charles type who returns.

        But I think Pace signed Cunninham for that.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I forgot about Benny …

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Howard gets injured we’ll need another one. Fail to prepare, prepare to fail.

  • Irish Sweetness

    5’11 234LBS. Samaje Perine.

    • Bender McLugh

      so no on Mixon because he punched a chick in the face?

      • willbest

        Video on that basically acquits him.

        • CanadaBear

          Not really. She did try to slap him but I’m not sure that’s the same as getting knocked the fuck out. Don’t really care because some drunk fat chick was yelling at you and trying to slap you in a public place. No way he should have decked her. In the court of public opinion, Mixon over reacted big time. Trust me, loud mouthed, drunken women make my ass as tired as anyone’s but that’s when you just gotta walk away.

          • MB30SD

            100%. Never hit a chick… Period.

            Besides, I hear the fat ones are poisonous.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            unless she wants it and you have a well established safe word.

          • MB30SD

            yo go boy

          • willbest

            How do you know anymore, what if she identifies as genderless?

            http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/03/27/judge-allows-oregon-resident-to-be-genderless.html

          • MB30SD

            sigh

          • willbest

            Things are getting so complicated these days. I am reminded of the great philospher Douglas Adams “In those days spirits were brave, the stakes were high, men were real men, women were real women and small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri were real small furry creatures from Alpha Centauri.”

          • MB30SD

            sounds about right… but what does punching a drunk fat annoying chick have anyfuckingthing to do with transgender peeps?!?

            Is there something you want to tell us Will (and your wife?!)

          • willbest

            Why are you so cisnormative that you assume she is a chick. She could be any one of these

            http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/02/heres-a-list-of-58-gender-options-for-facebook-users/

            In fact, it would be wrong for Mixon to make such an assumption, and he should treat xhe as he would any persontype. And since there is no rule against hitting a persontype when they attack you, he followed proper equalist protocol. To do otherwise would show bigotry and prejudice. We should commend Mixon for his commitment to tolerance and equality.

          • MB30SD

            sigh

          • willbest

            If it makes you feel better, I was giggling the whole time I was writing. I don’t think I would have been able to deadpan that in person.

          • MB30SD

            a little

          • Irish Sweetness

            Anyone watch Billions? Taylor Mason is ….. basically …. “it’s Pat!”. The pronouns are they, theirs and them.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not even in self-defense? Sorry man, I ain’t no victim.

          • MB30SD

            the fat ones… they’re poisonous… get it? GET IT?!?! BAAAAHAHAHA…

            ah forget it.

          • Bender McLugh

            this

          • Ososfan

            Canada always dropping the super hot truth!

      • Irish Sweetness

        (shrugs)
        You can rape somebody, wrap a phone cord around your wife’s neck … nah … it’s not that.
        Sounds like he doesn’t navigate traffic too well. His character can’t exactly be ideal either. He sounds like a tool.

  • BearDown100393

    Pacebot computes affection for his quarterbacks. OS failing big time.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    wasn’t Irvin just preaching to E. Elliott about his behavior.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/03/29/michael-irvin-accused-of-sexual-assault/

  • Bender McLugh

    ha!

  • willbest

    What would he say about him if he weren’t getting paid $4 million this year with no chance of being cut?

    http://www.espn.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4705289/john-fox-resilient-kevin-white-will-prevail-over-injuries

    • willbest

      Panther’s eying Fournette as expected. Wonder if the Jets pull the trigger at #6.

      • leftcoast dave

        Come and discuss that with Pace if you want Fournette.

      • I’m hoping the Jets fall in love with a QB (Trubisky?) and trade up with the Bears to make sure they get him.

        Pick 6 plus an extra 2nd would be awesome.

        • willbest

          hm…
          Garrett, Thomas, Trubisky
          Jags, Titans… I would imagine 1 or both of those teams takes a DB. If the titans don’t I would imagine they give serious consideration to Williams. Both might show some interest in Howard, but their needs are more defensive than offensive.

          That leaves us the leftovers from Hooker/Adams/Lattimore, Barnett, and Allen. Plus a second shot at 1st round talent that falls

          • or trade back up into 1st for whatever QB the Bears want. That’s typically a 2nd + a 4th.

            What a coincidence, Bears would have an extra 2nd and 4th.

            Thus would go 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7. No 6 from the dumbass Khari Lee trade (repeat after me: never trade a draft pick for a player who was just a UDFA and is about to be cut)

          • willbest

            That made no sense. Sure you want to make sure you get him, but you could do that by offering him $100k over vet min.

          • not exactly. He would have been on waivers, so it’s about order when putting in a claim.

            But Bears were 7th on waiver wire. Thus they gave up a 6th round pick to get a UDFA about to be cut when only 6 other teams would have had a chance at him.

          • willbest

            Fair enough, but there are 700 people available, what are the odds that any one of them being cut is a singularly impressive talent that will generate that level of interest from not just 1 team, but multiple teams

        • It’s hard for me to believe they’re willing to roll with McCown but they also roster Hackenberg and Petty.

          Think they spent a 2nd rounder on one of them.

          I see them as the most likely to trade up for a QB due to need and position, but again, see handle…

          • BerwynBomber

            Petty was a third or fourth rounder. Not sure about Hackenberg.

        • BerwynBomber

          Jets, if they’re smart (which they’re not), should wait a year as they’re going to suck regardless and next year will be a better QB class. Basically throw McCown/Petty/Hackenberg out there and look for your franchise next year.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Perfect scenario. It means we can draft Adams or whoever and still have two picks in the second. Maybe pick up Malik McDowell and Budda?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dickerson’s on crack. We need Kevin to step up? No, we don’t – we have 3 good receivers ahead of him. If he does break out .. .sweet.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      Brutal. I don’t know what I would do if my kid wanted to do one of those hard hitting sports. I would probably have a neurologist on speed dial and retainer.

      • MB30SD

        yeah, just don’t let them play till high school. you have a much greater chance of getting off without damage. Still, don’t think I’ll let me boy play unless they somehow figure it out.

        • Johnnywad

          I don’t think they’ll ever be able to control the incidence of injury. I just don’t see how you can stop the brain from hitting the inside of the skull.

          What I do think, is they may be able to sort out how it effects the individual. It’s weird. Some guys play through High School like the kid in the article and are a complete mess. While others have long NFL careers, have brains full of Tau, and continue to lead happy, normal lives until their natural death.

          Whatever the case, soccer moms are putting a huge dent in the overall number of youth players. Eventually, it’ll just be poor kids and Texas kids.

          Have your kids give lacrosse a try MB. It’s a fucking blast. Plenty physical, fast, highly skilled, but limited brain trauma. Plus soccer blows.

          • MB30SD

            Yeah agree.

            Naw, my boy just turned 6 and he and his sis just started taekwando… They love it and I hope they continue until they’re at least blackbelts so they can kick the shit outta people if they need to.

            When the time’s right I’ll let him check out some stuff. Right now I’m thinking soccer or water polo or track. I have plenty of time though.

            My dad got all excited when I told him rugby is starting to get big in high school… I told him to settle down.

          • Johnnywad

            Taekwondo is great. I took Tang Soo Do as a kid, which is a derivative of Taekwondo. Started at about 9 and got my black belt at 13. Still have only been in one legit fight in my life and didn’t even use it. But they spend the whole time teaching you to walk away. Only fight as a very last resort.

            Then I was 20 and drunk. And my girlfriend’s (now wife), then ex boyfriend smirked at me at a campus party after sending her a dozen roses that afternoon. I took that motherfucker out. But no Korean martial arts on display. Just angry, booze fueled force.

          • CanadaBear

            Once in a while some asshole just begs you to kick the shit out of them. Glad you were so obliging!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Sounds like he desperately needed it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            MMA son. Must be a place near you. That TKD is just for show.

            About the most useful thing I learned from Kung Fu was how to breath properly.

          • MB30SD

            probably the best thing you can learn.

            He’s 6 maings. I want to get him liking it, then once he’s done it for a year or so we can move him into the harder stuff… but no desire to have him get his head kicked in either. Just want him to be able to defend himself and have the self confidence not to have to… like Johnny said, in a street fight, you’re…. street fighting most of the time.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Was anyone here a headbanger? I’d spend hours at metal bashes throwing my brain against its casing. Can’t be a good thing.

          • Johnnywad

            I was not. But you’re right. You’ve probably got some level of CTE.

  • willbest

    I don’t think this will end well for mankind.

    “In an experiment that involved 13 tasters, the subjects’ taste buds were stimulated using electricity from receiving electrodes; LED lights mimicked a lemony color. Some were convinced that the water they were drinking was, in fact, almost as sour as lemonade.”

    https://munchies.vice.com/en_us/article/scientists-discover-way-to-transmit-taste-of-lemonade-over-internet

  • willbest

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2017/03/29/since-2007-the-dea-has-taken-3-2-billion-in-cash-from-people-not-charged-with-a-crime/

    If I were drafting a 2nd bill of rights, putting an end to civil asset forfeiture would make my top 10.

    • Bender McLugh

      AGREED! crazy that is still allowed, but really I shouldn’t be surprised. (insert thanks Obama/Trump/etc here)

    • Captain Obvious

      Agreed.

      Though are you saying this because attorneys like getting their 1/3 cut, and they don’t with civil forfeiture? 😉

      • Bender McLugh

        haha cold

      • willbest

        Nah, I don’t have a problem with the state confiscating property of people in the drug trade, but they should at least prove beyond reasonable doubt the person is actually involved in the drug trade (beyond simple consumer).

        Quite frankly, I have no idea how this concept of “well if we prove its possible your property was involved in the drug trade, we can just take” is Constitutional now. But there are quite a few provisions in the Constitution that have been ignored for a good long while now.

        • Captain Obvious

          Yeah, I’m waiting for my wife to invoke the 3rd Amendment against me before long.

        • SC Dave

          The War on Drugs has been The War on The Constitution since day 1.

          And they all pilloried poor Nancy Reagan, the only one with the sensible answer… “just say no”.

          You can never control “sin” by interdicting the supply. Only by reducing demand.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nancy should have gone after the CIA then (for the cocaine), and the US Army for bringing in the Heroin.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The government being the only one allowed to create wealth being front and center.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      Blood in the water.

      Incidentally, its clients that sign these contingency things without any realization of what they are actually doing. I have only done a couple, but that is always after I start to estimate the various costs and when I expect payments. They don’t like those numbers and ask. At which point I tell them that it is not in their best interest. That I don’t agree to contingency arrangements unless
      1) Its a fairly easy win
      2) My expected return will be large

      because even in simple and easy things I have to front $10-30k or more, and God forbid something ever get complicated in a hurry. They are all happy to sign knowing if they lose it doesn’t cost them anything, but every single one of them has been annoyed to angry when I take 10-30% (depending how far things progressed when the case is resolved).

  • MB30SD
    • Ososfan

      FUCK. THE. PACKERS!

    • BerwynBomber

      Will and I discussed those rankings the other days, both concurring that the Cheese are (as usual) over-ranked. They’re still a one man band, and they come out of free agency weaker than when they went in.

      FWIW, Lions looks a bit stronger.

      • CanadaBear

        It will be interesting to see how the Hamburgler handles the Black Uni. You know Bennett will test him. Unlike a lot of people on here I always had a lot of respect for him on game day so I’m more than a little curious to see how it all will play out. Hopefully he goes full jackass early and is a total distraction they don’t need.

      • MB30SD

        agree

  • Bender McLugh
    • MB30SD

      oh well, heeerrrrooooo!

      I’m down if adams goes before us.

      • Bender McLugh

        you know I like me some Hooker more, but I ain’t cryin if we take Adams.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I will bet both testicles and a portion of my percy that Jamal Adams is there at #3.

        • MB30SD

          Then yes please… And bet accepted

    • willbest

      If it goes Garret, Adams, and Pace isn’t sprinting to the podium screaming THOMAS!!! I am going to be disappointed.

      • Bender McLugh

        I won’t be, Hooker da man! But I won’t be dissapointed with Thomas either

        • MB30SD

          yep, I’m ok with either of those two.

          In fact, any of these (no part order) and I’ll be fired up:

          Adams
          Hooker
          Thomas
          Howard
          Foster
          Lattimore (I do caution the chronic hammy on this guy though… he’d be my last choice)

  • willbest

    “What the fuck is wrong with people?” – Jeff (on Arkansas allowing guns in football stadiums).

    And yet there will be fewer deaths than at a typical Raiders game.

    An armed stadium will be a polite stadium.

    • CanadaBear

      Until it isn’t.

      • MB30SD

        guns don’t kill people, people kill guns… or people… wait… guns kill people…. fuck….

        • CanadaBear

          Tons of people, lots of drugs and alcohol, + guns … YIKES! Maybe it’s changed a lot since back in the day but there used to be fights all the time in/around the stadium. Rarely at other pro sports events but football almost always had at least one fight on game day.

          • MB30SD

            you know, I’ve been on fire with the jokes lately and you motherfuckers don’t even care. It’s starting to hurt my very sensitive feelings/vagina.

            I mean, fat chicks poisonous!?!? Mixon as my fat chick body guard, etc… etc…

            (ps. yes, scary)

          • CanadaBear

            I’ll try harder to be there for you.

          • MB30SD

            thank you canada. I appreciate that.

            That said, I know you talk about your favorite sis being big, so probably not the best jokes for you… hope I haven’t offended… and you already know I’m a shallow asshole, so at least it shouldn’t come as a surprise.

          • CanadaBear

            Trust me, when I get around really big people in public I find myself involuntarily holding my breath or breathing out of my mouth just in case they are stinkers.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahahahahahahaha…. Eeeeewwwwww

          • SC Dave

            Wow… nothing like blog brothers spilling their innermost secrets.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fool me once … and .. y’know ….

    • BearDown100393

    • Johnnywad

      Not if they still plan to sell beer there.

  • Ososfan

    Has Anyone mentioned Derek Rivers? The 6’4″ stud OLB? Poor man’s Von Miller imo….

    • willbest

      I bet he makes a better road than Von Miller

  • willbest

    “One tidbit on #Cowboys QB Tony Romo: CBS is eyeing him as a potential replacement for Phil Simms in the booth. A big-time opportunity looms.” – Ian Rap

    MAKE THE BAD MAN STOP!!!

    • BerwynBomber

      Romo seems like he will be a dud as an announcer. Not exactly Mr. Personality.

      • BearDown100393

        Neither is Sims.

        • EnderWiggin

          Simms with Nance are my favorite commentators.
          Simms will call out a DB for incompetence before polishing the knob of a big-time QB.

        • BerwynBomber

          Simms has a ton more personality than Romo. I personally don’t go in for Simms’ shtick but it’s there. Romo’s a nice guy but he’s Montana-like bland.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Personality is not a word I would ever use about Phil Simms.

  • MB30SD

    alright in my response to yonny below, I thew out the cheesy 80’s posters.

    What about some of our guys on this team? Anyone worthy?

    Here’s some inspiration:
    http://i.imgur.com/mzZGlhR.jpg
    http://i.imgur.com/HxJXqw2.jpg (BAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA)
    http://malones.bc.ca/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/watch-sports-vancouver.png

    Holy shit!! they still do them!!!

    http://i1.wp.com/www.bitterbeardface.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/wilsonposter.jpg?resize=482%2C716

    • Ososfan

      I was born in ’89 so am not much help…

      • MB30SD

        What’s new.

        Too easy oso

        • Ososfan

          Fuuu….nnny

          • Irish Sweetness

            They’re just jealous.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Neil Lomax, Jesus.

      • MB30SD

        Right?!?

  • Sactowns#1

    Do we have any Bears fam in Portland? I’ll be heading up there again soon so let me know if you wanna grab a beer or some sizzle pie.

    • MB30SD

      Doc man. Hit him up… Do you have his #?

      • Cormonster

        I thought he lived in Seattle?

        • MB30SD

          Same thing… Anything north of the OC is the same fucking thing.

          And he’s the closest to there

          • CanadaBear

            That’s the same elitist shit East Coasters always say about anything west of the Mississippi River.

  • willbest

    Gay man? many of them have pinterest accounts too.

  • willbest

    “Fox has his own glass that’s half-full, as Smith used to say, and proclaimed the team is within “striking distance” (ed. of the number 1 draft pick)

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-biggs-bears-john-fox-spt-0330-20170329-column.html

    • Ososfan

      I say we need ONE MORE solid draft and we will be contenders

      • FresnoBear88

        I don’t remember even having one..

        • SC Dave

          1983

        • This last one may have been the best since…whenever Forte or Peanut got drafted?

          Floyd, Whitehair and Howard look like staples going forward (knock on wood).

    • D and run game will be good this year. How shitty will the passing game be?

      If it’s competent, they’ll be solid. If Glennon really is this sleeping giant some think, they’ll be a playoff contender IMO.

      • Johnnywad

        Wow. I’m usually one of the more optimistic guys around here. That’s pretty strong stuff from a level headed analyst of the game like yourself.

        I guess the question is, what are the odds that Glennon is THAT good?

        • That’s the ONLY question that matters.
          2nd and 3rd on that list is whether Fox takes a halftime dump and keels over, and if Birdcage can actually create offense without star receivers.

          • BerwynBomber

            I would say our pass D and overall D matters. Unless we think Glennon will play like Rodgers and carry a team by himself. But. Fat chance. Even among those hoping Glennon might be good.

            I think at best he becomes Ryan/Flacco lite and both of those guys need damn good supporting casts around them to go anywhere. Even 2016 MVP Ryan had all Pro Bowl-level weapons and a young, fast D that came on at the end of the year. And again, that’s MVP version Ryan, which was a bit of a fluke.

          • Yes, but finding defensive playmakers is much easier than finding franchise QBs or good HC/OCs.

            Some skill and luck in the draft, and some $ in FA.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. Just putting Glennon’s “ceiling” in perspective. My guess is, if we’re lucky it’s a hair better than Cutler’s. If we hit the jackpot, it’s non-MVP Ryan … aka a borderline top 12 guy.

          • Glennon imo is ALREADY as good as Cargo cuz Cargo is a borderline starter/high end 2nd stringer (market agrees like I said it would), and I can’t imagine Glennon being as INJ/ TO prone as him.

            Glennon could be Orton at worst, and like Orton, could win some game but still be replaced without much fuss.

            What I’m wondering is if he’s better than guys like Alex Smith, Dalton, Tyrod…guys who are seen a notch above the Hoyers of the NFL.

          • Irish Sweetness

            5-13 Butch. Cutty earned his .500 stripes. Let’s not crown Gummo just yet. Pace has paid him like a King before the coronation.

          • willbest

            Well maybe a Duke, but there is know publically known justification for 14.5 mil a year and 18 locked

          • Crowning him above .500 isn’t exactly arguing he’s the next Kurt Warner.

            What was Orton’s record on the Bears?

            Also, how many games did Cargo miss (including the one he spent on a sideline bike) so that dudes like Hanie, Campbell, Pickles, McCown, Hoyer, Barkley had to win games with limited snaps and upside?

            Those are Bear losses too under the Cutler era.

            Can’t make the club in the tub.

          • Irish Sweetness

            10-5 in games that Orton started, apparently.

          • willbest

            The market hasn’t said anything about Cutler yet other than it isn’t offering enough to get him out of the Bahamas.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Playgirl is in his future.

          • In other words, the market is not offering him franchise QB $ but rather journeymen QB/High-end back up $.

            That’s saying something.

          • willbest

            It isn’t necessary about the money. If you had enough money that your great grand kids are set, you going to fuck up your brain and body to add another generation of curlers to that list? He might play for Houston for 10 mil, but 25 mil might not be enough to go to Cleveland. I am pretty sure we got some sort of Mexican standoff with two quality defenses in need of at least an average qb

          • BerwynBomber

            IF CLE offers him 25M. So far, no one has offered him anything. TBD.

          • BerwynBomber

            I was always dubious of the “Cutler will easily get 20M on the open market” argument. The reason? Because no team was willing to trade for him.

            If teams really thought his contract was so attractive why not throw a sixth rounder at the Bears to assume it?

            Never made a ton of sense that teams would wait for him to be cut AND THEN pay him more. Could happen, I suppose, but odds would be against it.

          • willbest

            Is it? There aren’t any more than 3-4 elite talents at 3-4 OLB. Sure its easier to get a top 3 player at one of 11 positions than it is to get a HoF QB, but then you really need 2 or even 3 of those guys on D to offset the 1 at QB. Is it really easier to get 2 HoF defensive players at the same time another team finds 1 HoF QB?

          • BerwynBomber

            HOF? It is fine to aim for that but you can still win with a QB who is less than that.

            Realistically, I think you’re looking for a guy who is almost always top 16, and is often borderline top 12 or top 10. Ryan would be a good template.

            And needless to say, if we ever got a guy like that he would automatically become our second best QB ever behind Luckman. The McMahon/Cutty debates would be strictly for the bronze.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ahem. Mac is no bronze medal, and was clearly a winner against the likes of Cutler.
            .500 vs .67(?), Lombardi(x2), 71 NCAA records, Division champs every season … no comparison. Jim was a winner. 1984-1987 25-0 as a starter.

            Beating ALL QBs ever.

            Nothing against Luckman, was just watching some of that the other day -but how does he fare against the 86 football Giants?

          • BerwynBomber

            Luckman threw something like 6 TDs in an NFL title game with a ball that was shaped like a rugby ball. Gotta give the man is due.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The Skins game they won 74-0?? I think that was when teams weren’t expecting the forward pass. Clearly in a modern-era situation, Jim would have the edge over Sid. I doubt Sid was as smart, for example, or would set 71 records in college.

          • Don’t need 2 HOFers on D.
            We can just look at our own run with Lovie.

            Just need one HOFer (Lach) and a bunch of other borderline PB guys (Briggs, MB, Peanut, THarris).

            Or look at SEA. Do they have more than one HOFer? Maybe Sherman, Earl Thomas.

            Denver – maybe Von Miller?

            And those are just consistently great Ds.

            Teams with a franchise QB always have a chance because they don’t need historic Ds every season. Like the Falcons last year, or the Saints or Puke when they made their run, or the Pats every season.

            It’s all about the QB.

            Then hopefully some PB types are on D, stay healthy, and make a run down the stretch.

          • MB30SD

            Boarder line PBs… Dude, didn’t briggsy go like 6 or 7 times?!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Would he go without Lac beside him though?

          • SC Dave

            That’s the big question. I think so, but not as often.

          • MB30SD

            Yes

          • SC Dave

            Maybe he meant borderline wrt HoF

          • I actually meant both and should’ve clarified. Borderline HOFers and PBs.

            Aside from Lach, Brigs prolly went to the most PBs, but no one is going to argue he’s HOFer.

            However, there were plenty of borderline PBers too like Peanut who sometimes went, often didn’t. Or flash in the pan guys like Jennings or Anderson.

            Others flashed but got inj like Mike Brown and Tharris.

            I think under the Lovie era only 4 guys were favored to make the PB. Lach, Briggs Olin and Skunk on specials (later, the hired gun Pepps).

            HOF? only Lach (and may not even enter first ballot) and maybe Pepp (though we bought him later).

          • That was like the only other defender who consistently went to the PB, and many argue it had a lot to do with the intense pass rush, scheme (funneled his way) and playing next to one of the greatest ILBs in the past 20 yrs.

            That’s why there’s not even a blip about him entering the HOF.

          • MB30SD

            I get the argument, but the eye test says the dude was a top 5 OLB almost erra year. he was a playmaker man, I don’t care who else was on the field.

            Compare him to the cucks we’ve had out there since.

          • Cormonster

            This. Dude was a stud at the POA in the run game and pretty damn good in pass coverage.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But not as a play-caller. We sucked when it was Lance calling the plays.

          • MB30SD

            cause the rest of the D did too… they were old and done by then.

          • BerwynBomber

            Technically, Ware will be an HoFer too, BUT his best days were pre-DEN.

            Otherwise, I agree with you. Heck, I don’t even think you need one HoFer to have an excellent D. Look at the Pats last year. Or SF during the Harbaugh days.

            But yes you do need some PB-level talent.

          • MB30SD

            dooood.

            Willis
            Bowman
            Brooks
            Hittner
            Reid
            The Smith’s
            etc…

            that D was fucking STACKED with stars and a couple super stars (almost all of their LBs)

          • Def need PB-caliber players (like with us in the Lovie era)

            My only argument is that you don’t necessarily need 2 HOFers, and maybe not even 1 if your DC is an aggressive badass (like Wade Phillips).

          • BerwynBomber

            True but no HOFers. That was my only point. You can have a badass D w/out a HoFer. But yes, you do need PB-level guys.

          • Yeah, I thought about Ware, but much like with us and Pepp, his best days were behind him, though he did make a difference when he wasn’t inj.

            Jes. Guys like Talib., Wolfe Ward are in that PB convo, but I do believe for a D to be CONSISTENTLY excellent it does need that ONE HOFer offenses must game plan around, dudes like Watt, Von Miller, or Lach in his prime.

          • Irish Sweetness

            For a superbowl, we need at least one stud on the DL. One at LB, and one at DB.

            So two to go.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Even if Mike proves his numbers aren’t telling the whole story, his receivers don’t know the offense or him. He doesn’t know the offense. This doesn’t look like a win-now team.

        • Irish Sweetness

          18/1?

        • My guess is the passing game will suck, and so will the Bears.

          I’m just saying, if it doesn’t, the rest of the team should be solid.

      • WRs tend to be over rated, esp without a capable QB.

        Who was the last big time WR who won a SB (any without a franchise QB?)

        If the QB and OC are clicking, you can plug in Doug Baldwin types and win.

        • Irish Sweetness

          12 or 14 TDs last season?

          • willbest

            James jones had like 12 one year. That wasn’t him. It was Aaron Rodgers.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s what I always say about Jerry Rice. He gets drafted by Tampa … you would never have heard of the guy. #1 player of all-time? What a joke.

          • Laurent Robinson had 11 TDs in 2011.

            Who is Robinson? Exactly.

            And Brandon Lloyd went for 77-1,400-11 TDs under none other than NeckBeard!

            Baldwin is good, but he’s not gonna make any top#10 lists.

            It’s more about QB-system-chemistry.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tell that to the fantasy Gods, boys!!

      • BerwynBomber

        What if he is as good as Cutler or a hair better?

      • willbest

        Other teams had to respect Jeffery. Now they can sell out against the run. Is Cam or Wheaton the guy that will make them pay?

        • Irish Sweetness

          How can they sell out on the run? Wheaton can burn folk quick. You’ve got Wright or Cam on the slants ….

          • willbest

            Our DBs would not have problems with our WRs, a group that included a Berry or Norman might as well play with an extra LB

        • Bears are banking on that being Cam (or Kevin White)

    • Cormonster

      Or as Wanny would say, “All the pieces are in pwace.”

      • Irish Sweetness

        That was Mike Tyson.

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://www.foxsports.com/nfl/story/chicago-bears-secondary-becoming-quite-crowded-032917
    did anyone read this article? very interesting take on our secondary.

    basically we have 17 secondary players on the roster right now and that’s not counting the draft where we could possible add 2 more.

    the atricle says that we are most likely going to probably keep: Marcus Cooper, Prince Amukamara, Quintin Demps, Adrian Amos, Bryce
    Callahan, Cre’Von LeBlanc, Deiondre’ Hall, DeAndre Houston-Carson, Chris
    Prosinski and Deon Bush

    and probably cut: Jonathan Banks, De’Vante Bausby, Jacoby Glenn, Kyle
    Fuller, Harold Jones-Quartey, Sherrick McManis and Tracy Porter.

    im cool with the all the cuts except Fuller because he was a 1st round draft pick and he can always move to safety.

    • I wonder what the Fox regime will do with Fuller.

      Obviously Fangio thinks he’s a pussy. But he’s still a 1st rd talent, and it’s hard for teams to let those just walk out the door without any compensation (see ChickenDinner).

      I think Prince was brought in as a younger Porter, but if both play well, why cut him? Don’t think much cap is saved, and god knows, we need all the talent we can get back there.

      McMannis is our longest tenured Bear. Can’t cut him!

      Ok, that’s how ridicules the Bears have become.

      He’s a good sp teamer, but god knows we can do better at CB.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Fox will probably cut or try to trade him during the draft or during the trade deadline.

        We can never have enough talented position players so we will likely keep Fuller. We are not a great team like the Patriots/Packer/Steelers to let talents like Fuller walk
        away.

        Think how mad you would be if the Packers picked him up and he became an all pro shutdown corner who helps them get to the big one and win

        McMannis is swiss cheese as far as I’m concerned. Our secondary is in need of more help than Special Teams.

        • The thing with Fuller is that he was drafted to be a cover-2 CB. So on top of him being a pussy, he’s not even a fit as a 3-4 cover CB.

          That’s why there’s been some speculation about him moving to S, but that’s like moving shit to a different toilet; it’s not gonna make it smell rosier (see ChickenDinner).

          I bet the Pats pick Fuller up once he’s cut.

          • Sahr Gborie

            They pick him up and make him an All Pro that will plague us for years to come.

            He has talent. We have to find a way to make use of his talent. Good coaches find a away to make use of talent. See the guy in New England

          • MB30SD

            stop that. CD is not a fucking all pro, the dude had like 20 tackles and one sack for them this year. I think landon fucking cohen did better for us one year. Dude is a career fucking cuck my maings..

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            GREATEST OF ALL TIME!!! FUTURE HOFer!!! To bad the NFL had to create a rule against his most valuable move of jumping the center to block a kick. The CD Rule!

          • MB30SD

            today a cuck died

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fangio is the pussy.

    • SC Dave

      Fucking dipshits have a proofreading fail in the first sentence. Shall I read on?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        that is not an error. The secondary crowed about how bad they were last year.

        • SC Dave

          That’s a bit of a stretch, M

          • Sahr Gborie

            17 players in the secondary is a bit of a stretch Dave?

    • BerwynBomber

      Wouldn’t be surprised if the Cheese look at both Fuller and Porter. Their CB issues make ours look minor.

      • MB30SD

        they’re welcome to that cuck fuller.

        I think we should keep porter, dude was ballin till he got hurt.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Seriously bro, 1leg Porter over Fuller? Damn he’s fallen out of favor with everyone. I think I’m the only one hanging on to hope that he will bounce back this year. Would hate to see him pop up somewhere else as a stud

          • MB30SD

            he’s a vet, he was ballin before he went down.

            Fuller’s been out for like 3 years now man. He’s done. His head isn’t right. I personally don’t think he’ll ever play again. so yeah, porter over that basketcase maings.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Bounce back? Jesus lads, he’s not his second year ….

            HE. DONE.

        • Irish Sweetness

          (paces the bench, hands clasped behind his back)

          I put it to you MB Esq. that before said injury, Mr. Porter was seen to be schooled and toasted during the time of the year known as ‘pre-season’ … and that his sloth-like ways and rigidity did in fact PRECEDE the aforementioned injury.

          Furthermore, may I enquire …. did my learned friend even witness these games?

          No further questions, m’Lud.

        • Big Mike

          Can I hold out hope for Fuller?

          • MB30SD

            You can do whatevertheefuck you want mike my maings.

            You know football players more than most here… if they have a breakdown like that and don’t play football for an entire year because of mental issues (i.e., not wanting to play while he had a normal knee scope that usually takes a couple weeks to come back from WHILE having your coaches fucking smashing your heart publicly for being a pussy headcase… you’re going to be done.

            That’s just my take man.

          • Big Mike

            I keep forgetting that is what happened to him. Heart problems. Can’t fix that. Just line him up and see if he can make the roster. Pace/fox sure have added quantity to the secondary. Maybe some useful players, but nothing top shelf or even next to the top shelf. That’s got to come from the draft.

    • Big Mike

      It is obvious, but I’ll say it. A bunch of shitty players does not equal 4 good ones.

    • CanadaBear

      Fuller’s contract is guaranteed. He’ll probably stay on the roster just because of that.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • MB30SD

      damn, that’s a fucked up way to go man. yeesh.

    • 1st world Youtube.

      Football player pulling out boobs

      3rd world Youtube

      Villager slicing open a 23ft python with machete to discover human corpse getting digested.

      • MB30SD

        I know right?!? I was fucking so SHOCKED to see someone taking phone video VERTICALLY!?!?!

        Fucking 3rd world!

        • MB30SD

          too soon?

          • Would you rather:

            A. Get mauled by a Bear DiCaprio style
            B. Get eaten by a lion
            C. Shredded by shark
            D. Devoured by piranhas

            ?

          • MB30SD

            tough one. I have a thing about lions man. Out of all the african animals they scare the shit out of me.. and I’ve been close enough to reach down and pat 4 or 5 of them (also been repeatedly charge by a huge male when we interrupted his smash session). I love them and they’re awesome to look at from a landrover, but if my plane crashed or landrover broke down and I had to walk 20 miles home and spend the night in the bush, I’d be fucking scared shitless of lions the whole time. They start eating before you’re dead man. not pretty. I also think it’s because I watched this way too young: http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0083034/

            That said….

            A. If you play dead and someone finds you or you have a cell phone, this one is probably your best chance for survival.

            Of course you may end up looking like this: https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdMHT186GS_LeeB-J1eTxa_Wx7kgD3X-yrb9JkBmfi4x3YzP5T (oh, also I highly recommend you don’t google image bear mauling)

            B. See my first comments. No thanks.

            C. Again, fuck that. In their element, terrifying way to die. probably going to die if it’s a Great White, Bull, or Tiger. This is the reason I don’t rough water swim, unless I’m in a tri… then I just have to be faster than the last swimmer

            D. Hell no. death by a thousand painful terrifying little bites. no thanks.

            A, final answer.

            you?

          • I think I would have to go with Bear.
            Seems like Bear can maybe swipe your head off, then it’s like a madame guilltione? Few brief seconds of absolute horror as your head is flying through the air looking at your body from a distance.

            Then again, Bears could just fucking play with you like DiCaprio. Crush your sternum. Big ass fangs into arms and legs. Ugh

            Lion – those claws would prolly scare me more than their fangs but like you said, they could eat you alive.

            Shark in some ways are like Bears. So big, they might just snap you in half right away. Then again, don’t they play with their prey sometimes?

            I read that they don’t like humans (most animals don’t. too bony) so usually they take one bite then let go (though that’s enough, and that means a painful slow death at sea).

            Piranahs. Damn man. They can devour a cow whole in under a minute. At least it would be fast? Can’t imagine what death by a thousand biting razors would feel like, but can’t imagine it’s appetizing.

            Bear.

            Final answer.

            (Alternate option. Razor back gorilla pummeling you to death).

          • MB30SD

            silverback.

            and fuck that… did you see what a CHIMP did to that lady?!!?

            Fuuuuuck this: http://i2.cdn.cnn.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/130502161959-charla-nash-horizontal-large-gallery.jpg

            A silverback is like 4 times the size/strength.

          • And they have the rep of ripping off your ballsack, or arms and clubbing you over with them.

          • MB30SD

            they BITE off your cock and balls, and nose and ears and fingers and toes.

            So much fuck that I can’t even begin. God damn dirty apes.

          • Almost as painful as being a Bears fan.

            Zing!

          • MB30SD

            pretty much the same thing (just emotionally).

          • Irish Sweetness

            See? Beaten to death with your own balls. What a wonderful world.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s something I don’t want to mess with. A chimp. Pull your face and testicles off apparently. Fuck that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I missed that in the question. A doesn’t imply death.A bit of a mauling. A few scars and a good story.

          • MB30SD

            doesn’t work that way… pirahnas, often sharks, def lions.

            Pirahnas ALWAYS finish what they start unless you’re in a fucking movie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE8amlC2rR4

            sharks WILL kill you unless it’s a shorline thing like in florida a lot

            lions, if they’re not in a zoo/circus, you’re done. They will eat you, that’s the goal.

            With bears, most of the time, unless they’re old/injured, they just want you the fuck away from them. so bears give you the best chance of survival.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            can I choose choking on gummy bears, as long as anytime anyone ask how I died, they are just told “Bears! MotherFucking Bears!”.

          • MB30SD

            they have to maul you, emotional mauling counts I think…

            I have thought about committing harikari while watching this terrible and fucking weird euro-commercial. Maybe that would count: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AIJX3RLZKRw

          • Irish Sweetness

            Haribo is heaven.

          • MB30SD

            Agree, LOVE their gummy bears… US gummy bears are these soft… gummy… disgusting things. German engineering baby!

          • willbest

            Shark might be the quickest way to go.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’ve always wanted to test the punch-a-shark-on-the-nose theory. Biff one right on the sonar.

            But I’d have to go with the Lion.

          • Scharfinator

            Depends how bad the maiming is for A/C. B/D at least ensure death.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m voting for E, dying in my sleep.

          • leftcoast dave

            . . . like my grandfather, who had a massive heart attack killing him instantly before he careened off a cliff while driving, not like the two passengers seat belted into the back seat.

        • “Ugh. If I’m ever eaten by a 23-foot-long reticulated python in the
          remote village of Salubrio, I hope the villagers who discover me at
          least have enough respect to film the extraction of my corpse
          horizontally.” – Jerry Callo, Esq, Trump U School of Law 89

          • MB30SD

            Right?!?!?!

            Fucking disgusting behavior. Savages!

          • leftcoast dave

            1. Being there.
            2. Mars Attacks!
            3. My Cousin Vinney

            In that order.

  • AlbertInTucson

    THAT is more like it.

    Hawks spank the Penguins IN Pittsburgh.

    • Bender McLugh

      fuck Shitsburgh!

  • MB30SD

    this is pretty amazing: http://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/smart-living/mesmerizing-maps-show-where-the-most-educated-americans-live/ss-BByhReo?li=BBnb7Kz

    would be fascinating to overlay the voting record and see what’s what…

    …know what I’m sayin will? knowwhatImean knowwhatImean? saynomore saynomore? eh? eh?

    • willbest

      I am sure a similar trend for every city, but you might as well just overlay the racial map and the credentials map for chicago. blue/green = less melanin, orange/red = more melanin.

      Of course you do find some red in Lake Forest, Oak Park, etc. I presume those are some Silents still hanging on to homes they raised their children in 40-50 odd years ago.

      • Big Mike

        Chicago is becoming an anomaly. In the DC area your racial/credentials map would not line up at all

        • SC Dave

          DC is not a normal city.

        • willbest

          Or perhaps DC is the anomaly given its particular function. From what I know of st. Louis and Atlanta they seem to match too.

      • MB30SD

        racist

    • Bender McLugh

  • Irish Sweetness

    Great interview with Tyson – special because it includes watching clips of great boxers, and his insights on them. Interesting how he views them e.g there’s one sequence of Joe Frazier beating the shit out of Ali. Tyson is going “Look at him ….[Ali]” …..I’m looking at Frazier pound Ali …. Tyson is looking at him absorbing blows, marveling at him.Then he slates Ali’s boxing, but rates his heart. You won’t hear the fans say that. Ali never threw a body shot in his life, says Tyson. I did not know that.

    Somehow, Mike gained actual wisdom in recent years.

    His favorite boxer was Duran.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Pace’s draft. I’m calling it, on this day, the 30th March, the year of Our Lord 2017.

    He drafts who he thinks is the BPA at #3. This is not a QB.

    Round two … he trades down for …. Davis Webb.

    Round three – he picks a TE or a DB …. and an OT.

    Connor Shaw hops off into the Reno sunset and the front lot of a car sales dealership.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Round 1 – BPA unless he gets a good offer for #3 and trades back but stays in the top 15

      Round 2 – he goes for the secondary

      Round 3 – QB or OT

    • leftcoast dave

      Round one, one of the three DL monsters or trade out with the trade being the first option.

      If trade down happens which I think will (hopefully more than once), LB or OT.

      Second pick the other of LB or OT not taken with first.

      Third, fourth, fifth, and sixth BPA- DL, S, CB, WR.

      Seven, eight and nine, TE, QB, water boy.

      • MB30SD

        You didn’t addresses dbs till 4th.

        You crazy maings

        • Johnnywad

          I say we just trade down. We just keep trading down in perpetuity. We trade down until we just fall off the bottom end of the draft ladder. We just trade down until we insure that we can’t possibly draft a game changing player and end up with 426 players that all suck. But hey, more picks. Cuz #value.

          • leftcoast dave

            Risk/reward. If you only need one world class player use your capital there. If need to build at LB and OT as well as WR, S, and CB, you cannot waste the 3 on only one need and hope you do not get Kevin White.

          • MB30SD

            Bingo!!!

            Oh, and forgot to reply to your fight post. I was a drunk meathead in college and got into about 10 fights. One with one of my own Dlinemen one night. SMH.

        • leftcoast dave

          No, with a trade down I expect to have second and third round picks for BPA S, CB, DL and WR. I will be surprised if a DB is in the top three picks. Call me crazy but Pace has already spent big money there.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he spent short term money on DBs. big difference than giving DBs 4 year deal.

          • leftcoast dave

            He used the two pick last year on Whitehair. What does that tell you about his thinking for the O line? He spent last year in FA on ILBs. Now Danny Tre is a question mark. Who are da Bears without a killer ILB?
            Might that be why the money was spent in the D backfield and WR positions?
            Might Pace not recognize the long term need at OT and ILB?
            Thereafter, BPA where he spent money at DL, WR and D backs.

            Just my humble opinion. If no trade down, the bpa DL.

          • MB30SD

            I WILL call you crazy damn it!

            We haven’t taken a safety in 10+ fucking years maings… and we have the record to prove it. Look at this illustrious list:

            Al afalava
            harding
            conte
            wright
            the bayou dud missle
            etc….
            etc….

        • Irish Sweetness

          He’s moving Hall to FS. We have Demps. He ain’t drafting S.

          • MB30SD

            hahahahahaha… dude, hall is an Irish PSH special. that dude is NOT, I repeat NOT a starting NFL safety.

    • evantonio

      this guy thinks webb won’t last to us in the 2nd:

      https://nflspinzone.com/2017/03/27/nfl-draft-2017-davis-webb-no-1-quarterback/

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