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Finding A Quarterback: No Interest in Mitch Trubisky?

| March 22nd, 2017

(Author’s note: Last week I wrote I didn’t think the Bears would draft a quarterback third. Forget that, they can’t possibly think Mike Glennon is the answer.)

There has been almost nothing to link the Bears to North Carolina quarterback Mitch Trubisky, which is exactly why I think they really like him.

After sending a team of people, including Ryan Pace and John Fox, to Clemson for Deshaun Watson’s workout, the Bears didn’t send anyone of note to see Trubisky this week. There were also no reports of Pace going to watch Trubisky during the season. Really, nothing has connected Pace and the Bears to Trubisky other than a standard interview at the combine.

Hell, we even have Pace talking specifically about having a problem with what is perceived as Trubisky’s biggest flaw, experience:

“Yeah, it carries a lot of weight. I think there’s nothing that can really substitute that,” Pace said at the Senior Bowl. “It’s already a big jump from college to the NFL as it is, so the more of that you have, the more beneficial it is.”

I don’t buy it. 

I have a hard time believing Pace would be this transparent. If he really wanted Watson and not Trubisky, why would he be so obvious about it and risk somebody moving ahead of them to take Watson? It’s weird and, if that’s really what he’s doing, it’s stupid. I don’t think Pace is stupid.

Pace said he experience is important and Trubisky only had one year as the primary starter at North Carolina. Of course, Kevin White only had one year as a star at West Virginia before Pace made him his first ever draft pick.

If Trubisky had gone back to North Carolina for his senior year and had the exact same season he just had, he’d be the consensus first overall pick next year. And, while he only has one year as the primary starter, he has nearly as many pass attempts as Aaron Rodgers and Carson Wentz had coming out. He also took a significant number of snaps in three separate seasons, which could answer the questions about experience for some.

There were numerous reports last year that the Bears really like Carson Wentz and, in 2015, it’s well known that they wanted Marcus Mariota. Two guys who are big, mobile, have big arms and didn’t throw interceptions in college. That description (although he’s a couple inches shorter than the other two) also fits Trubisky, who was intercepted on just 1.7 percent of his passes in college.

He made some big time throws last season. One of my favorite games of his was actually the Stanford game in which the general perception was that he was terrible because he made two horrendous decisions, but there was a lot to like.He kept battling, despite the constant pressure and gave his team a chance to win with a great touchdown late. If the offensive line doesn’t crumble on the two-point conversion, we just might be talking about the Stanford game as a great comeback for Trubisky.

My biggest problem with Trubisky was that I never felt like I was watching greatness.

He has as much ability as anyone in the draft, but I felt l like he should’ve been more dominant than he was. He was surrounded by really good collegiate talent, which really helped him. There were times when I wanted him to take games over and he just didn’t.

Sometimes Trubisky looks like Aaron Rodgers. Then, on the very next play, he’ll look like Blaine Gabbert. Naturally, my NFL comparison for him is Matthew Stafford, which any team would be happy with. I think Trubisky can be a very good starting quarterback, but I’m not sure he’ll ever fit what people perceive to be a “franchise quarterback.”

He’s not my favorite quarterback in this draft, but if the Bears took Trubisky third, I’d completely understand it. There are no signs that that is going to happen, which, perhaps, is exactly why we should think it is.

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  • BearDown100393

    So it is all just a ruse. Sanchez in town. Make the other teams believe Pacebot hates Trubisky. And then on Draft Day, surprise!

    • Pacebots “spy” mode.

      That’s how Judgement Day was possible.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But why the ruse? He has the third pick, and SF are ahead of us. As are Cleveland. Pace could be in love with Watson AND Trubisky and BOTH could be gone by #3 ….

      Surely POC are in win-now mode? Developing a young inexperienced QB won’t do that. Glennon and (cough) Sanchize would give you two vets in case of injury to the starter. A better of chance of winning this season.

  • BerwynBomber

    Stafford, though, has an extremely live arm. Does Trubisky have that? Otherwise, might be an apt comparison.

    I would also worry a little about his height. 6’2″ is a tad short for NFL starting QBs. Yes, the league has its notable 6’2″ or shorter exceptions in Rodgers, Brees and Wilson (and guys like Taylor and Cousins look pretty decent thus far too), but more often than not, the 6’4″ or above guys dominate and/or are optimal.

    In fact, height is the one, indisputable thing that is attractive about our new ginger stork. Glennon might otherwise suck, but his field vision and launch point should not be a concern.

    • Trubisky does have a live arm, and he can throw from multiple platforms.

      That’s why Andy said he can look like Vadgers. In fact, he can look like Vadgers too much in that he looks like he’s always going for the big play and takes unnecessary sacks holding on to the ball.

      That’s where the inconsistency kicks in.

      Trubs other knock is that he doesn’t have “it” – he’s not a vocal leader – which leaves many like Andy wanting him to take over games, but doesn’t (not like Watson).

      Considering what Bears fan suffered through with the endless “Cutler is a leaderless loser” narrative, does Pace or do the fans really want to be grinded through that for the next 4 years again?

      I totally agree about his height. I brought it up before – if any 6’2 QBs have thrived – it’s been rare, and many of them seem inj prone (Cargo, Romo, even Tyrod to an extent).

      Trub is much more improvisational and mobile than Fat Lesbo though.

      IMO, he’s the most “pro ready” QB in the draft, but that’s not saying much cuz they all need a yr to learn how to take a snap under center, learn 5 step drops, or learn coverages at a basic level.

      • BerwynBomber

        One further thought about QB height in the NFL is that I think it allows a QB to have an average skill set and still be effective. A good example of that might be this past year’s MVP. Does Ryan do anything exceptionally well? I would argue he doesn’t. But he does almost everything, at least, competently.

        Whereas if you’re a bit undersized you better have at least one QB asset where you’re a superstar. Rodgers (choose virtually anything but vocal team leader), Brees (leadership, smarts, accuracy), Wilson (athleticism, smarts), etc., etc. In fact, the only small-ish guy who has average assets would be Cousins. Even a guy like Taylor has superior athleticism.

        Even a guy like Cutty, who at 6’3″ might be considered average height, has his cannon.

        P.S. Yeah, I don’t know much about Trubisky. Thanks for the info.

      • Irish Sweetness

        One of the things that made Jim McMahon so great {Oh Jesus, no…} was his take-charge moxie. If Trubs doesn’t have that – and how can he if he’s coming out early – then do we want a wallflower? He’s a project, and that’s fine if he’s the next Jim Kelly or whatever. We can take the losing. It’s the Chicago way.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Trubs has a release on him.

  • Sahr Gborie

    If we dont mind him riding the bench for a while then sure draft him. I want someone ready to play from day one like S.Darnold in 18

  • King of DBB

    He’s not my favorite quarterback in this draft, but if the Bears took Trubisky third, I’d completely understand it. There are no signs that that is going to happen, which, perhaps, is exactly why we should think it is. -Raggedy Andy

    The Westworld head fake?

    NFL.com has both Kizer and Watson rated with higher scores. It will be interesting if Trub is the first QB selected.

    • I don’t know how any rational person could rank Kizer ahead of Trub.
      Watson i can see cuz of his swag and IT, but Das Kizer? Nine.
      If Pace is going stealth it’s cuz of the 9ers who were trying to trade for Cousins bit Snyder cock blocked that out of sheer spite, hence They may very well steal Trub from the Pacebot

      • MB30SD

        So I don’t get this, watson is the only one with THREE (3) years of expereince on a champeenship-level team and in the champeenship (the last 2 years against the closest thing to an NFL team in college) scenarios where he’s done really well under the brightest of lights.

        BUT, I call him RG IV for a reason and don’t think he’ll live for more than an NFL season quarter unless he changes his game.

        THAT said, if we HAD to pick one this year, my vote would be him by a large margin.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I only want one superbowl in the next ten years, MB. Maybe we can squeeze out two before I die. If he’s awesome for three years, I’ll take it. Nobody’s doing the dynasty thing anymore. I don’t count the Cheatriots.

          • MB30SD

            He’s rg 4 dude, the other guys are fucks by all accounts man. Not worth the risk just for the sake of taking “a QB”

          • Irish Sweetness

            But the ‘experts’ never know. Nobody talked about Prescott. They only ever talk about the top 3 guys at any position. Time will tell what this draft had QB-wise. We can’t afford to listen to noise.

          • MB30SD

            Yes and they’ve all said class of cucks

    • Irish Sweetness

      I wonder what those scores are based on. College? Projected into the future? The first two might have looked better in college .. .doesn’t mean they’ll project into the NFL the same way. Trubs just looks like an NFL QB to me. In the rough.

      Which reminds me, must watch that movie where Meg Ryan gets hammered in it. And not on booze.

  • Sahr Gborie

    if the Bears took Trubisky third, I’d completely understand it – hell no. i don’t want to understand. i want to know that we have drafted the qb of the future: luck. newton. mariota. wentz. i dont get that vibe with mitchell

    • Irish Sweetness

      Carson fucking Wentz is someone’s QB of the future? Pity the fools.

  • “There has been almost nothing to link the Bears to North Carolina quarterback Mitch Trubisky” Andy

    Actually, there has. Don’t know if you consider WalterFootball “a source” but they’ve said they heard that Pace is high on Trub, and have mocked him at #3 for a while now. They’ve changed it to Allen recently cuz Glennon, but they failed to recognize that’s only a 1yr contract in reality.

    And for those protesting Trub is only a “1 yr wonder” – see, White, Floyd.

    Agree. Trub is a total Pace 1st rder.

    • Andrew Dannehy

      I did see that and disregarded it. The Bears couldn’t be high on Trubisky AND have MIke Glennon be a reason why they wouldn’t take him. Walter Football is notorious for making crap up, this is another case.

      • King of DBB

        Walter Football is notorious for making crap up

        Wait, what? It is?

      • MB30SD

        and fuck them for mocking allen to us. Dude’s a ghost

        • Irish Sweetness

          If we drafted a second-best-at-his-position when drafting third, I’d swim over there and razor-blade his nut-sack, foreskin, and then cover it with salt and vinegar

          • MB30SD

            Why do you say that, in your very last comment to me you suggested taking the third best player of his position and the 15th in the draft over the best and the # 5 player. Make up your mind yo

      • Irish Sweetness

        Glad to see your dad back as your avatar …

    • willbest

      The only reason I would be annoyed with Trubisky/Watson at #3 (if Garrett and Thomas go 1 & 2) is because we went and handed $18 million to Mike Glennon

      • MB30SD

        yes, and left Adams AND Hooker on the board.

        I will be fucking livid.

        • willbest

          Hooker has a hip even though he has Earl Thomas upside. Adams is more Kam Chancellor than Earl Thomas. You see what a difference a Thomas makes relative to a Chancellor.

          • MB30SD

            And you saw what happened when chancellor was out.

            I actually don’t agree with your assesment above. Kam is 6’3′ 230 and ran a high 4.6 40.

            Adams is almost the exact same size as eric berry (6’0″ 215ish) and is isn’t that much slower… mid 4.5s (berry ran a 4.4). So he’s a lot closer to berry than chancelor.

            I’d take adams over hooker at this stage hands down.

          • willbest

            I thought the Bears punted 9 times against a Kamless Seahawks.

          • MB30SD

            exactly (although that’s not saying much)

            he’s my man crush, but I want a berry and think adams could be that guy for us

          • Irish Sweetness

            Isn’t Obi bigger than Kam? And he ran a 4.46 40.

          • MB30SD

            Taller not bigger.

            Hopefully we can get him for value later

          • AlbertInTucson

            With a Clausen-led “Offense”.

          • Perfect 9 for 9.

            9 drives. 9 punts

          • willbest

            You are right he measures closer to Berry. Guess that is what I get for judging a guy more on highlight reels in college.

          • MB30SD

            oh trust me, he brings the fucking noise like Kam, I think that’s exactly what I saw in his tape, same as you… and exactly why I’ve swapped from hooker to him.

            pretty sure he’s a day-1 big game changer for any team he goes to… hooker might take a few games or even a season.

          • Adams is NOT Berry-ish.
            He’s more TJ Ward.
            Is TJ Ward worth #3 overall?

          • MB30SD

            dude, he is NOT TJ ward… come on.

            Compare the two’s college tape. Adams is a fucking monster.

          • TJ ward is a good S.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4edkCJM5AM

            He’s just NOT Berry.

            And that’s where positional value comes into play.

          • MB30SD

            A few experts have already said he’s a berry

          • MB30SD

            : /

          • Irish Sweetness

            Is any SS worth a #3?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Wwat’s more important, a safety or a QB? Small or no, Budda will be there at #36. Guaranteed. Or Obi Wan.

          • MB30SD

            A all pro safety over some fucking cuck any day of the week.

            Kind of an important factor to consider dude. Can just ask this or that. Smh

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t know if Pace would draft a nob at 3. By all the sounds he’s making, it’s not looking like a QB at 3. It could be a later-round QB though, which will just be a wasted pick.

          • MB30SD

            Better a wasted late round pick than the #3

      • I would tend to agree, but there could be 2 things going on.

        1. Hoyer didn’t WANT to re-sign with Bears. And if true, what option does Pace have? HOF FA Cargo? Fuck that.

        2. Pace viewed Glennon as insurance since he honestly doesn’t know if the 9ers (or even Browns) will snatch his QB.

        It’s an expensive insurance plan, but like I said before, it’s not as if Pace was gonna transfer that $ to land a big name. Thus far he’s proven a tight-wad and not about to change his MO with a lameduck HC.

        • Irish Sweetness

          1. Fuck. Him.

          2. Exactly. If SF grab pace’s guy, then he has a guy in place to play for two or three years. He has Shaw. He fucked up not signing Manuel IMHO.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Neither Watson and, especially, Trubisky, figures to be ready to start year 1.

        What they gave Glennon is 3rd tier money for a starting QB these days so I don’t have a problem with it.

        Who knows, MAYBE, Glennon turns out to be adequate or even, (gasp), solid.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But at that point we’d NEED Glennon though. It would be Cutty for me (if healthy), but there you have it. I haven’t seen much of Watson, but he seems more ready than Trubs. Neither is ready to start, so paying your #1 QB the going rate is the cost of doing business.

  • King of DBB
    • BearDown100393

      “…. in Texas”

      Makes sense.

      • willbest

        Usually they are fat, this woman didn’t need to go trolling for jailbait.

      • Thought it was 16 or looks it over there?

    • Governerd

      She’s undoubtedly smiling because some of the best bbq in the world can be found in Lockhart, TX.

      • MB30SD

        dude, I want REAL rib tips from the south. so good.

        That said, not sure enduring lockhart fucking texas is worth anything

        • Governerd

          Agreed. I did my time in nearby San Marcos and the few things that made it tolerable were the co-eds on the San Marcos River (bikinis in February) and bbq in Lockhart.

    • There was a hot teacher in HS that was rumored to hook up w some of the football team.
      Never could prove it tho

      #makeAmericaGreatAgain

      • willbest

        The only female teacher in my high school worth banging was the building sub and she was a 7 and being porked by one of the English teachers. One of my kid’s teachers is a solid 8 though.

    • ButtonShoes

      Where were these teachers when I was in high school?!

      • Johnnywad

        I never had a single teacher that was a pleasure to look at. Not one.

        Now. Holy shit.

        And even moreso, I dropped my 15 year old off at school yesterday morning. There were a dozen students walking in that were flat out dressed like 24 year old call girls.

        That didn’t exist in the 80s. At least not where I went to school. Couldn’t believe my eyes.

        Butch, you keep playing with fire and it’s just a matter of time before shit goes south. I mean waaaaaaaay south.

        • I only went out with that one 18 yr old girl, and I made sure to take her to an 18 and over club so they do that New World ID scan to double-check.

          But yeah, they’re getting more voluptuous early. Some say it’s the milk or MSG. I’m sure Trac has a theory.

          Either way, I’m too perty for prison.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Well, she DID teach Anatomy.

      • AlbertInTucson

        And with that middle name, she gives a whole new meaning to “Playing Madden”.

    • CanadaBear

      Just my luck to have a nun put her hands all over me in 7th grade (numerous times). Even without the habit she didn’t look like this nut. The only reason they arrested her in Texas is because they are not related. Boom!

  • BearDown100393

    Pacebot signed Mike Glennon to make the fan base now beg for quarterback to be drafted. The robot is sly.

    • Bender McLugh

      The fan base & Pacebot himself

  • King of DBB

    Jeff is on a Solomon Thomas kick now.

    • King of DBB

      Hubby Bubby and his kid do not think Thomas should be up at 3.

      http://www.profootballweekly.com/2017/03/22/facebook-live-hub-arkush-arthur-arkush-and-john-sahly-on-the-draft-free-agency-and-the-pace-of-football/a3flgqb/

      They also think he could not play a McPhee OLB and would be best as a 5-tech guy

      • McPhee and Thomas are nearly identical in size.

        6’3 270ish.

        If anything, McPhee is thicker and can play Dline more than Thomas.

        The drawback about Thomas is his size.

        at 6’3 and avg wingspan, not quite DE
        at 270ish,a lil light for 4-3 DT

        His measurables fit into 3-4 OLB.

        I get the fear though. Jack of all, master of none.

        The reverse could be true too though – that he does everything well and becomes a versatile nightmare.

        • MB30SD

          How does he match up with A.Donald (physically)?

          • I read somewhere “poor man’s Aaron Donald” and that’s about right.

            Of course, that’s only Thomas projected as a 3tech DT, not as a DE or OLB.

            Aaron Donald has that lightning first step I hadn’t seen since Tommie Harris.

            That’s rare.

            Thomas doesn’t quite have that, but he does bring other things to the table like better foot work, more flexibility, etc, which is what you would expect when comparing a 3tech to OLB.

            However, I bet Thomas can play some DT on obvious passing downs or in “NASCAR” packages. He prolly wont be all world like Donald in there, but disruptive nonetheless.

            If Thomas were about 2 inches taller and 2inches longer with a 1sec faster 40, they’d be arguing who’d go 1st overall, Garrett, or Thomas.

            But as it stands, he’s just a hair less “prototypical” all around.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I assumed if Thomas was drafted he’s an OLB. If he – or Allen – is put at end … busted.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    No one wants to say it, but Da Coach will. The biggest thing Mitch has over the other two top QB’s in the draft is: The Caucasian Factor.

    • King of DBB

      I almost said it.

      Hubby Bubby said, in his opinion, that if Blake Bortles was in this draft he would be rated way above all three and he thinks Bortles is failing in the NFL.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      You mean the guys named Deshaun and DeShone aren’t white? baffling.

    • MB30SD

      is that your wife in the pic with Da Coach?

    • MB30SD

      do we really believe this? I don’t/can’t. not in the NFL.

    • Don’t really think so.

      If Cam, Winston or Mariota were in this draft, they’d be graded WAAAAY above Trub.

      And with 20/20, so would Wilson or Prescot.

      If Watson didn’t play in a mickey mouse O, he would be too, but playing in that O really hurt his NFL stock.

      I never understand why college QBs willingly play in gimmick offenses that will be used to downgrade them come draft time.

      Might as throw a few mil into the fireplace.

      If I were a highly recruited QB, I’d play for USC or a similar program that runs an NFL type O.

      • MB30SD

        did you just say SC? SMFH, dude, out of the what 10 NFL QBs from SC, ONE has had sustained success. If I was an NFL GM that would be the kiss of death for a college QB for me. Oh he’s another butt fumble/marajuanavich/the asshole with the curly hair/etc…, yeah, uh, no thanks.

        And it cuts both ways right… how much press/limelight did watson get the last 3 years from being on a top 3 team? Prolly made as much if not more on that alone right?

        • Tell that to Darnold next season when he goes #1 overall and cashes in while Watson maybe drops to 2nd.

          History is history. That’s like saying Bears D in the 80s were great, so the Trestman D should terrorize!”

          • willbest

            Watson isn’t getting past Houston. Even if they do snag Romo, you aren’t relying on him.

          • But never know how teams grade prospects.

            Maybe Texans have Kizer or even Mahomes higher than Watson, and if given the choice, there you go.

            There’s some teams that have Watson graded as a 3rd rd pick.

            Sounds crazy, but happens all the time.

            Either way, Watson is not going #1 over all and it has a lot to do with the mickey mouse O he played in.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Whoever hired Snotweiler probably does rate some bum QB so highly that will have many people scratching their heads.

          • ESp if buttfumble is also signed smmfh

          • MB30SD

            Oh I didn’t say some dumb ass team won’t make the kid rich, just saying history is against him being successful in the NFL. Big difference… Just ask johnny money.

            And that was a ridiculous simile

      • willbest

        That is fine, but that is like 3 programs figure 3 QBs each. What do the other 90 of the top 100 HS QB prospects do?

        • That’s why I added ‘if I were a highly recruited QB” –

          I understand if you have no choice, but if you do, why the fuck subject yourself to an O you KNOW won’t transfer to the NFL?

          Never get that.

  • King of DBB

    MB –

    You will be happy to know that Hubby is all about the Bears getting Hooker in this draft. He also does not think Budda Baker had the competition to show he can make NFL hits and hold up, and is not as good as Honey Badger was coming out.

    • MB30SD

      GP – I’d be super happy with Hooker, but the hip labrum worries me. I was one of the biggest, ‘it means nothing’ proponents… but I thought it was his SHOULDER laburm. The hip is a very different story (and somewhat of a different body part).

      I think that new knowledge (yesterday) coupled with the lack of hitting INSTINCT – it’s inherent I’ve found… you either love to crush people or your a little scared of it, it’s not something that can really be taught – has turned me back to Adams.

      The guy is big, fast, and loves destroying people. Does he seem more like a SS and not a midfielder? Maybe, but he’s fast and athletic enough to be turned into a great FS. He seems a LOT like an eric berry to me (and that’s who the experts have compared him to).

      At this point, If I’m going to chose between hooker or adams @ #3, I think adams is the safer choice.

      (that said, I will be pretty damn happy with hooker… as long as he’s not another KWhite)

      • I’m sorta tired of worrying about inj proclivities.
        Pace signs Rolle who hadn’t missed a game in a decade, joins bears, goes down.
        White w no inj history and an absolute combinefreak…metal rod.
        Long decends from genetic mutants …ailing

        Whole team went down like dominoes last season . like the black death, indiscriminate.

        So i say fuck it. Just get ballers and if they break get more.

        Ballers are more likely to get inj anyways cuz they’re more physical

        That’s why Olsen is going to play until he’s 50 and Gronk breaks every 3 weeks or so.

        Screw it. Just get them Swoles

    • Buddha has skeelz, though those are valid concerns and may cause him to drop.

      Hub likes Hookers? Jes
      Does he stiff them like he did his subscribers?

      Most likely

      • King of DBB

        oooooh. shit be cold

    • ButtonShoes

      Hooker would be a great pick. Would be even better if he was healthy.

  • MB30SD

    wanna watch something funny: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4gKPULa41Q

    This happened to me in Zimbabwe while on horseback safari. As soon as we got remotely close to home, my horse wanted to eat so he started fucking bolting back no matter what I was telling him. Fucking thing took off! I’m not an experienced rider, but can usually do fine in normal situations… coupled with the fact that it was this prissy little English saddle and there was nothing to hold onto, it was fucking scary. Especially because he knew where he was going and I didn’t. I just squeezed my milky thighs as hard as I could and grabbed onto two handfuls of mane and held on for dear life. Scary, but looking back it was kinda fun.

    • bwhaha luck of the Irish!

      Same shit kinda happened to me when I went horseback riding in Big Sur.

      The girl I was with got this 40 yr old hag who can walk the trails with a blindfold.

      I unwittingly got this one

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eIuvx7VokKg

      Halfway through my horse didn’t want to “follow” and wanted to go back, or who knows where.

      Started bucking, and I was like “holy shit” (also gotta remember that in Big Sur, there’s literally cliffs that fall off to the pacific ocean). Never realize how powerful they are till they don’t want you around.

      Eventually he simmered down, and the Trainer (a chick) asked me if I wanted to go back.

      Naturally, as a man, with two women staring at me, I responded, “No” while a trinkle went down my leg lol

      She later informed me that they just got that horse and were breaking it in.

      Thanks for that, trainer.

      • leftcoast dave

        Great and good humor. Reality out of the safe zone with manhood on the line!

    • Irish Sweetness

      I sat on a donkey once.

      I’ll get my coat ….

    • leftcoast dave

      Dat be called a barn rat you were riding. Needed a more biting bit or a rider willing to risk a throw.

      • MB30SD

        Ok.

        No control of the first, no chance of the second. We were in the bush… In fucking Zimbabwe to, I wasn’t risking sheeeeit.

  • ButtonShoes

    Oh dear God MAKE IT STOP:

    “The Chicago Bears already signed quarterback Mike Glennon this offseason, but they are reportedly eyeing Mark Sanchez for depth purposes.

    On Tuesday, Mike Garafolo of NFL Network reported Sanchez will visit the Bears on Thursday.”

    • BearDown100393

      People don’t seem to care.

      • ButtonShoes

        They really don’t, do they? Well, not like the Bears haven’t earned the apathy people have towards them now.

        • willbest

          Either its cloak and dagger stuff to throw other teams off the scent, or it implies we have no interest at a QB at #3

          • willbest

            oh, I suppose it also could mean pace is fucking retarded.

          • ButtonShoes

            I think it’s this one. ^

    • leftcoast dave

      Head fake, I pray to God.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That would seem to mark the end of the Connor Shaw era, no?

      • ButtonShoes

        I think they want to try to keep 4 QBs on the roster. Glennon, a veteran backup, Shaw, and whoever they draft at QB, if they do. That’s not only very hard, but very dumb.

  • willbest

    I haven’t been to Au Cheval in years. I don’t recall ever eating a fried egg on a burger though. Had peanut butter on a burger once back in college, that was not a good combo. It was at the 24-hour burger joint near the bars so maybe I wasn’t drunk enough. Also had pulled pork and crispy onions on a burger somewhere. That is a decent combo.

    • ButtonShoes

      Best cheeseburger I have ever eaten. Ever.

    • Fried egg on burger delectable, but double-Fox heart attack special.

      Speaking of which, I used to frequent this one pizza joint after work, and saw this one dish I never heard of before.

      http://simplyhomecooked.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/khachapuri-last.jpg

      It’s called Khachapuri and apparently is Georgian (the country, not the state). They make them different ways (even with Kale Ms MB), could order more than one egg, for instance.

      If you guys have the chance, try it comrades. Make you strong, like Putin.

      • ButtonShoes

        You can never go wrong adding a fried egg to just about anything.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Sunny side up on a burger. Yes. That’s an Irish dinner. To be followed by twelve pints and an argument.

      • MB30SD

        Over medium.

        Only 12?!?

        • Irish Sweetness

          That will in some way be related to the argument.

          • MB30SD

            Mmmmmmm, yes. Quite.

      • leftcoast dave

        What? How about the five course meal? A four pack of Guinness and a spud?

    • BuddhaJoe

      There’s a place here in GR that has a burger with pulled pork and a fried egg on it. Fucking amaze-balls. I thought it sounded ridiculous at first but damn.

    • leftcoast dave

      Blue cheese. That’s the bomb. Burger or steak. Steak and eggs? Oh, yea, good as it gets.

      • MB30SD

        Gross. Blue cheese just fucking overpowers everything.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Fuck yeah blue cheese!

          • MB30SD

            Shocking

        • leftcoast dave

          Which makes Brie a better choice on a steak, but if you throw the onions and tomato on your burger, blue cheese is it.

          • MB30SD

            Kobe steakhouse burger, ementaler, sauteed shitake shrooms, grilled onions, leaf butter lettuce, home made ketchup.

            Boom!

          • leftcoast dave

            Ok, now I’m doing sirloin and eggs for lunch, then taking a nap.

            I very much appreciate all of these posts which have put that idea into my head after having eaten salads seven of the last nine lunches.

            Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • Irish Sweetness

    “If Trubisky had gone back to North Carolina for his senior year and had the exact same season he just had, he’d be the consensus first overall pick next year.”

    That’s interesting if true (I don’t watch amateur sports). The main vibe on here is that folk want to draft defense and get the QB next season – but what if next season’s top QB was going to be Mitch if he stayed in college? We can have him right here and now, with no obligation to throw him to the wolves in week one.

    Fine with Trubs. Sanchize OTOH …..

    • MB30SD

      Buuuuullshiiiiiit

      • Irish Sweetness

        Who’s your QB? Piss or get off the pot. Name the guy.

        • MB30SD

          Not one of these cucks this year.

          I get my guy from next year’s crop. Real prospects.

    • leftcoast dave

      “If” . . . then he would have had the experience of someone like Beathard of Iowa who can be drafted for much, much less draft capital, draft capital which could be used on someone who has a much better chance of starting next year and for years thereafter.

      What price do you pay for an “if”?

  • Canada and I and a few others gave our 2cents on Trubs. Here’s some of his tape. Watch at least 2 (preferably 4) games (and make one vs Stanford)

    If you squint hard enough, Trubs looks like an NFL QB.

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/mitch-trubisky-vs-stanford-2016/

    • BuddhaJoe

      Dude we’re all about Nigerian princes and fried eggs now. Get with it.

      • The dude abides.

        • BuddhaJoe

          Sometimes you eat the bar, and sometimes…..the bar eats you.

      • SC Dave

        Is there a NIgerian, or a fried egg, that can be our starting QB?

  • Irish Sweetness

    This might have been buried on the last thread. Movie-length history of the Bears.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uz5WIbqiIoA&t=2424s

    • King of DBB

      Aren’t you pumped for that ESPN doc?

      God, the footage from the stands last year watching Barkley shine then suck – it must be brooootal.

  • King of DBB
    • MB30SD

      Agree… A weird badass winner

    • BearDown100393

      He’s falling into the same trap as Ditka. And is becoming a caricature of himself.

  • King of DBB

    If the Bears sign Sanchize, they have become the Yahoo of NFL teams.

    • MB30SD

      Browns north

    • AlbertInTucson

      Would not top The Jets signing McCown.

      • MB30SD

        But we expect something like that from them. Sad were… There.

      • I’d rather sign McCown

        • AlbertInTucson

          Disagree.

  • leftcoast dave

    Deondre’ F’n Hall?

    Might be a great FS prospect.

    Whoda thunk?

    http://dawindycity.com/2017/03/22/chicago-bears-deiondre-hall-safety/

    • AlbertInTucson

      An idea floated by a couple of writers.

      Or,

      “Let’s make something up to write about, today”.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Just watching A football life: Dickerson again. Both he and Craig James agreed that sharing the backfield kept both fresh entering the NFL. Let’s have our own Pony Express. Pull the trigger Ryan. Show us you mean what you say about BPA.

    • leftcoast dave

      Good humor, Irish. But I hope we’re not up there and that the deeks we’ve seen to QB, LB and RB are just that to increase the trade value to the 3 so that we get twice as many players from the first to upper third rounds. If that happens, I see a T and LB as being in the top four picks with the rest having so much depth that we can get great value (DL, CB, S, WR, QB (what difference does it make) in the second, third or fourth rounds. Hey, maybe another Howard in the fifth, but I agree with you that Lenny would be great if we could not create more value trading down.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’d totally be up for a trade-down. That means S/TE/RB etc.

    • Forte was a college AND nfl workhorse and is still going strong.

      #Mixon4rth

      • CanadaBear

        I like your new screen name!

        • leftcoast dave

          Amen to that! Trade down early and often. Get seven or eight through four rounds! Get your OT, LB and Monster hitting SS in the first three, BPA. Be da Bears!

      • evantonio

        i mean… i don’t know how strong he was last season.

  • MB30SD

    Kinda wanna go check out this little town in Austria

    https://goo.gl/images/N7wD3h

  • Alex

    I’d be very happy with Trubisky. I think he suits what Loggains wants to do and he can also sit and learn behind Glennon for a year if necessary. I believe he’s a lot more accurate than Watson as well. Having said that if Pace thinks Watson is the QB then sure he should take him. He’s certainly proven himself against the best defence in college.

    Either QB will come in with an experienced pro in Glennon ahead of them who will also hopefully guide them going forward. If called upon to play they’ll have a solid OL to work behind (I’d have like the Bears to upgrade OT in FA) with a stud RB in Howard to assist. Alongside Howard will be the recently acquired Benny Cunningham whose great out of the backfield and better than both Langford and Carey in my opinion. I think he’ll be a sneaky good pick up.

    There will also be a variety of different WRs and TEs all with something to prove and who I think Loggains can do plenty with given what he managed with last year’s group. We may not have Jeffrey anymore but I’ll take this group of WRs and TEs over what we had available for the majority of last year. I think Loggains has a lot of potential as an OC.

    Personally I’d still like the Bears to go after Hankins (DL) to solidify the defensive front and prevent the opposition running on us. Then in the draft: –

    Mitch Trubisky (QB), Obi Melifonwu (SS) or Budda Baker (FS), Antonio Garcia (OT) or Sidney Jones (CB), Adam Shaheen (TE), Ryan Switzer (WR), Carroll Phillips (OLB), Zane Gonzalez (K)

    • MB30SD

      No thanks alex

    • Irish Sweetness

      Funny that. We finally have some receivers … but Elvis has left the building. Mind you, Glennon seems to have an arm.

      Obi and Budda would be my first two drafted if we moved down.

  • Irish Sweetness

    This guy is our #3 WR. Not bad.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH3hxFs40hY

    • leftcoast dave

      Not my taste in music, but well produced. The kid’s got heart and is emblematic of what Pace appears to be offering to players who feel they might not have been given their shot.

    • SC Dave

      Certainly ahead of White, so probably #2

      • Irish Sweetness

        1. Wheaton 2. Wright. 3. Cam 4. Kev

    • MB30SD

      Man I miss Brian hoyer. : (

  • MB30SD

    Andy… Zero interest in mitch trubinsky

  • King of DBB
  • leftcoast dave

    Good film by Thayer on Demps. He’ll be a great mentor for da yutes at both safety positions while being a difference maker this year.

    http://www.chicagobears.com/multimedia/videos/Film-Review-Quintin-Demps/3dfd00f2-21b0-4185-8385-5424f0ce6eab

  • BearDown100393

    Defibrillator stat.

  • willbest

    Bears at Norte Dame, maybe eying Kizer for a 2nd round?

    • BearDown100393

      Donating Pickles’ equipment to the scrubs.

  • King of DBB

    Vadgers house is for sale in Green Bay.

    The closest restaurant according to the listing is Subway. I had heard Aaron really liked the footlongs. NTTAWWT.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/aaron-rodgers-green-bay-house-is-for-sale-and-you-might-even-be-able-to-afford-it-203303109.html

    • BearDown100393

      I thought his house burned down?

    • willbest

      That is an amazingly modest house considering his net worth. Kudos to him on that. Probably being blackmailed by his beard for a less humble abode. I hope he doesn’t go crazy with a new construction. He won’t ever be able to sell it.

      • CanadaBear

        Why would you care? I’d like nothing better than to see him lose a few mil on a house.

        • willbest

          My job often involves saving people from bad financial decisions. Or at least making them aware of the risk. Anyway, I don’t think Aaron Rodgers being taken down a peg breaks my top 1000 list of things I would like to see, let alone be near the top of it.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          he is secretly a closet packer fan.

  • King of DBB

    Saints: “Kap? Fuck that guy. Un-american punk ass motherfucker, Ali my ass.”

    “Johnny Football? Uh…. well… hmmm…. maybe. The only thing he disrespected was that crazy bitch he threw from the car.”

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000794771/article/sean-payton-saints-have-interest-in-johnny-manziel

    • BearDown100393
    • MB30SD

      smh

    • ButtonShoes

      I’d rather have Kap than Sanchez. Kap at least knows how to take a team to the Super Bowl. And he was just shy of winning one, too.

      Then again, I’d rather have a bag of rotten potatoes than Sanchez.

  • MB30SD
    • CanadaBear

      Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life son!

  • MB30SD
    • CanadaBear

      None for me, thanks! I’ve always been about comfort more than weight.

  • BearDown100393
    • willbest

      Nonsense. We only like guys with bum legs. McPhee, Travathan, Houston, Fuller, etc.

  • BearDown100393

    Egg and bacon on a double cheeseburger. Somebody gave up on pants and moved the waistline into tracksuits.

    • ButtonShoes

      But he had fun doing it, I bet.

      • BearDown100393

        I’m ordering one of those when I fall off the fat farm wagon….

  • King of DBB

    Is there also Tinderization for NFL players?

    http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/page/presents18969358

    • BearDown100393

      You mean NFL players who want to date other NFL players?

      • King of DBB

        It says that in the Pippen-Jordan era, NBA players spent inordinate amount of time at clubs picking up skanks to bring back to the hotel, and eating out and consuming alcohol.

        Now they realize that booze dehydrates them and they just use apps to line up trim that waits for them in hotel rooms. More efficient. they get to sleep more. Extends their careers.

        I wonder if the NFL had picked up on this.

        • BearDown100393

          “eating out”

  • ButtonShoes

    From Bleacher Report, “Seven Types of NFL Offseason: Which One Is Your Favorite Team Having?”:

    No. 6, “Look Busy Mode”

    “This strategy looks similar to treading water except that the team using it is already submerged and
    possibly drowning. Some organizations approach the offseason like sweaty middle managers expecting a snap inspection from the big boss: They rush around causing as many problems as they solve, ultimately accomplishing nothing.

    Three years into the John Fox-Ryan Pace era, the Bears have committed to Mike Glennon as a starting quarterback and replaced Alshon Jeffery at receiver with Markus Wheaton and Kendall Wright. These are the moves a team makes when its goal is to finish 7-9 and claim it was “a play here and a play there” away from the postseason.”

    Doesn’t sound too far off the mark, IMO.

    • BearDown100393

      7-9!

      7-9?

      I just hope we win a game.

      • ButtonShoes

        I know. 7 games? We’ll be lucky to win 3.

        • SC Dave

          Depends on Glennon. We could win 10

          • ButtonShoes

            Technically you could be right. He could end up being a 10-win QB. You never know. But what are the odds on that given his past performance? I have to believe they aren’t that good.

          • SC Dave

            Why not be positive?

            Seems impossible for you.

            Try it.

            Maybe your life will suck a little less.

          • ButtonShoes

            There are plenty of things for me to be positive about. Mike Glennon and the Bears right now aren’t one of them. Plus, being negative about them gives me the leeway to shit on the McCaskeys repeatedly, which makes me feel a lot better.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            and gives us all reason to assume you are just a whiny bitch and not take a damn thing you say seriously.

        • MB30SD

          My god you’re turrible dude.

          Fucking eeyore.

          I’m not a 10 win guy either, but come the fuck on dude… How have you not slit your wrists in a warm fucking bath being do god damned negative ALL the time. Damn man

          • ButtonShoes

            I can’t be enthusiastic when I don’t see a ton of progress! My mood will improve dramatically if Pace takes Adams or Hooker at #3, or manages somehow to land Myles Garrett.

          • MB30SD

            come on man. you simply can’t be this negative about just this right?

            This is who you are? Just saying dude, must suck to think everything is the worst it possibly can be.

            I’m not sayin we’re super bowl bound next year, just saying it can’t get worse than last year so that’s something.

          • ButtonShoes

            Well it can always get worse. It’s hard to be positive about a franchise that hasn’t been good for a very long time. And to be positive about this team right now, it means that you have to have a lot of faith in Ryan Pace and what he’s doing. Well I don’t. I don’t look at him and see the next Jim Finks, or Ron Wolf, or Ozzie Newsome. I see a GM that isn’t very different from most of the loser GMs that we usually have. Oh, and the McCaskeys still run/own this team, and Ted Philips is still here, and John Fox is still here, and they all still keep insisting on saying and doing stupid things over and over.

            And it’s not fun to acknowledge your team is bad and isn’t getting any better. Being negative isn’t any fun at all! I’d much rather be cheering on wins for this team. Lots and lots of them. And deep playoff runs resulting in Super Bowl wins. I want to see this team be able to consistently find, draft, and develop franchise QBs. I want to see Kyle Long hold up that Lombardi Trophy like I saw Anthony Rizzo hold up the Commissioner’s Trophy last November, covered in champagne.

            But the only way for the Bears to get better is to say that the team is bad and acknowledge it. You can’t fix your problems until you admit that you have them: Why can’t this team admit that they aren’t good, that they know it, and that they will fix it? Why can’t they hold themselves publicly accountable for their constant, endless failures? Why didn’t Ryan Pace move heaven and earth to get rid of Jay Cutler when he became GM and then actually do it, so that he could begin a QB search in earnest, instead of doing nothing for 2 years and now having to reach for this terrible class of QBs in this year’s draft? How does Ted Philips or John Fox still have a job here? How can anyone defend Pace’s approach in free agency this year, opting for lame depth when what we need are stars and playmakers? We need to hold the Bears’ feet to the fire, not give them a pass for their many, many mistakes. If that means being negative then so be it.

          • MB30SD

            see that… now backing up some of the face-value negativity with some facts, background, though-process makes it seem more reasonable. Even if it still feels over the top and unnecessary to me, at least you have facts/history/experience to back it up.

            I don’t know man, I’m just one guy on the board… and I’ve felt just as negative about us lately (well, almost), but just seems like almost every post boil over with negativity… and not the poke fun kind. Anyway, you do you maing.

          • ButtonShoes

            Hey, everyone should try to be themselves, right? In the end we all want the Bears to be great again. And I think we’d take a giant step towards that by drafting Adams or Hooker (preferably Adams), or somehow managing to get Garrett.

          • MB30SD

            yep

          • I’m no Cutler fan, as some may have noticed, but which QB would you have went after if you were Pace in his first yr?

            He couldn’t cut Cutler without a massive cap hit (I think like $15M). It wasn’t HIS contract. He unloaded that smoldering bag of shit from Emery and had to let it burn itself out and smell it like the rest of us.

            Fox was hired before Pace. Again, see above. Pace inherited both Cutler and Fox.

            Why? well, you pointed to the real culprits. The incompetent McCaskeys who still employ that human parasite Ted Phillips who is so clueless that the McCaskeys had to hire OUTSIDE consultants to even land Albino Lovie.

            How are these circumstances Pace’s fault? He’s trying to rebuild but can’t just demolish everything in 1 or 2 seasons and start anew after 20+ years of rot.

            I’m not totally sold on Pace, but thus far he’s showing fiscal responsibility and decent talent acquisition.

            Sadly, his true reign may not be judged until after this year, or until after Fox and maybe Glennon are gone.

            Then, Pace can hire his own HC and QB like most rational organizations allow their GMs to acquire from the start.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fiscal responsibility? That’s Ted Phillips talking. We’re weak at LB. Cash could have helped that. We have cash.

          • He just paid Trevathan and Freeman last season, and drafted Kwiatoski.

            You ready to quite on those ILBs? Which FA would you have liked Pace to overpay for? (And he would have to overpay cuz no one wants to play for us). Hightower? You think he’s leaving the Pats for the Bears?

            As for OLB, again, which FA would’ve been a demonstrable upgrade over McPhee or Floyd? Most good 3-4 OLBs don’t hit FA.

            Now, if you wanted to throw the bank at CB and S, I could understand. More options there this offseason, but the top FAs want to be on WINNING teams.

            Like I said before, we were lucky to even land Demps.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We need to be drafting linebackers, for sure.

          • willbest

            If BD is projecting 7-9 we are right fucked. He predicts 19-0 every year

    • BerwynBomber

      We are 14-34 the last three years, which averages out to 5.666 wins per year. Hence, 7-9 would be a marked improvement, roughly a game and half boost in the W column.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They cherry pick 3 signings to tailor the Bears moves to fit their concept and then conveniently fail to mention Demps or the two cornerback signings.

      Piss.On.This.

      • Agree. Bears did some sneaky signings.

        Bears needed a physical in-line TE who can also catch. Sims
        Needed a 3rd down back to complement Howard (also returns). Cunningham
        A starting playmaking S who can captian the secondary. Demps
        A NT who can help spell Goldman. Jenkins
        A possible upgrade at RT or at least swing OT. Compton
        CB competition. Cooper and Prince

        And let’s not forget about the players we re-signed.

        Kush who IMO excelled to insure Long.
        Callahan who flashed and is likely our starting nickle
        Christian Jones who is a core Sp teamer and emergency ILB
        Barth who is our starting K going forward (anyone still pining for Gould?)
        Shaw who many of us wanna see more of
        Bellamy who if he actually catches balls might be good
        Daniel Brown an unathletic but sure handed TE
        Deonte Thompson who made some plays in the slot and returns

        And the advantage to this method is that little is invested, so if any of them underperform, they can easily be replaced by some hungry rook with minimal cap penalty.

        It’s obvious Pace wants to build through the draft, and he’s just creating competition and a young core as opposed to overpaid mercenaries.

        It’s a long term overhaul, and unless a fan believes Glennon can win a SB, then we should show a lil patience.

        If Pace kills the draft again, a lot of these guys will be expendable come next season when the real run begins.

        • SC Dave

          Thompson is not signed, is he?

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t pretend to know what Glennon is or might be.

          I thought Barkley showed some potential early, held back by the epidemic of dropped passes but in the end, his decision-making was just awful.

          • With regards to Glennon, no one really knows. Diff OC, system, personnel. Gonna give him the same chance I gave Cutler, McCown, Hoya, Barkley.

            We’ll find out by week #5 who he is.

            Everyone condemns the signing, but no one argues who they would have signed instead.

            Only other viable option was Hoyer. And as much I liked Hoyer as a cheap bridge, I can understand paying more for the “ceiling”.

            It’s not my fucking $, and it’s not as if Pace was gonna splurge with a possible lame-duck HC and bridge QB.

            Was thinking about it earlier, and Pace’s FA method is that he relies on doubles.

            The grand slam is a 5 star like Berry.

            Homerun a player like Bouye.

            Triple guys like Mcphee, Tre, maybe Freeman.

            Double, well, Demps, Prince, Porter, Royal, etc.

            Pace is betting on a landslide of doubles, and maybe one of them turns into a homerun.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I like that doubles analogy. And I kind of like that strategy, get the team to be competitive with ‘doubles’ and build the core through the draft. Then swing for the fences when we are a little closer.

            Also it is probably an easy strategy to sell to the McCaskey’s. Don’t overspend for homeruns until it is necessary but still increase the competitiveness of the team each year.

            The contracts Pace gave these FA are all basically 1 year ‘Prove it’ type deals. If someone better comes along they can be cut and Cap hit will be minimal after the first year.

            I, like others, already assume Pace is a little tentative on spending, mainly because he saw the Cap Hell the Saints are in each year. But eventually I have to believe he will loosen the strings on the checkbook.

          • Yeah, that’s the way I see it too.
            Grand Slam FAs are rare. Reggie White was the first. But they don’t hit the market often. Grand Slams like Von Miller, Berry are mostly wet dreams

            Home runs are more the norm, guys like Bouye who perhaps aren’t as lauded, but still viewed as top options. But hey, they come with swing and misses too (Remember the entire blog wanting Jairious Byrd?) Bouye himself is only a 1yr wonder.

            Pace did get some “triple” talent. We all were originally thrilled about McPhee, Tre, Freeman. They fit a need at a decent cost. Demps may fall into this category, depending on his play.

            But for now, he’s more a double along with a bus load of other players.

            I HOPE Pace is capable of spending when he must. That’s my worry about him going forward. There’s a fine line between “frugal” and “cheap”, and if he’s the latter, Bear fans are gonna be bitching like Puke fans every FA season.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He has a LOT of holes to fill.

            Staying with the baseball analogy, he can’t hit a 5- Run homer.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. And I’m still not convinced Glennon is a drop-off from the three-headed shit show we saw last season.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We have three good receivers now. Not bad.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        and one GREAT WR. BRAVERMAN!!!!!

  • King of DBB
    • BearDown100393

      John Wick vs Neo

      Studio Release: John Wick: Reloaded

      Who wins?

      • King of DBB

        If Hugo Weaving is in it: everyone.

  • BerwynBomber

    Cheese sign DT Ricky Jean Francois. Solid depth signing but GB has lost more than they gained in FA.

    Wonder too if anything can be read into Rodgers putting his GB home on the market. He has to know his SB window is shrinking, and that he helps the likes of Thompson, McCarthy and Capers a great deal more than they help him. Were Rodgers to sign with HOU or DEN tomorrow (hypothetically, of course) he would arguably increase his chances of reaching another SB by 30%.

    Sooner or later we are going to see elite QBs manipulate the NFL (for title/legacy purposes) the way NBA and MLB stars do in their respective leagues. To a degree it has been going on with some non-QB positional guys signing with NE for a few years now.

    On one hand it is a little too calculated a move. On the other, couldn’t blame a Rodgers or a Brees telling their respective organizations “thanks but no thanks, I have been patient long enough and would like a legit shot at winning another title before I retire.”

    • Fuck. I was hoping they wouldn’t land Francois. He visited us and SEA, so yeah, competing with Puke or Hawks is prolly not gonna turn out well for Pace.

      Francois is an upgrade over an old ass Peppers, so they got better regardless.

      But I do agree. They didn’t seem to improve in FA overall.

      Then again, they never do, and still win the division anyways.

      • BerwynBomber

        Right. Because of #12. But the one-man band show can only take an organization so far.

        Btw, I thought Francois was more an every down interior guy than Pep. I figured it gives them a better chance to cut ties with Guion who again ran afoul of the law and/or league in recent months.

        • willbest

          Its almost criminal he only has 1 ring.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. I sometimes think GB is like the pre-Epstein Cubs. They’re happy to cash in on the Lambeau nostalgia/fan destination stuff and throw a half-decent team on the field. They seem to require their players and coaches do a lot more fan access garbage than we do. Almost as if half the gig is market the brand.

          • SC Dave

            The old Connie Mack approach. Except it does not really work in the collective bargaining/ free agent world.

          • CanadaBear

            The people up there sure love their Fudgies. I’m pretty sure you’re correct about all the PR the players do. Not much else to do.

          • MB30SD

            FUCK him.

            And FUCK them.

  • MB30SD

    Here’s one for dave, al, canada and the boyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMFRM1bkEDg

    • Wouldnt an std be a badge of honer for old badgers?

      I’d be high fiving, “yeah, I can still get it up!”

    • CanadaBear

      I’m safe there!

    • SC Dave

      You didn’t really expect me to watch more that 15 seconds of that shit, right? I barely made it that far.

      • MB30SD

        Hahahaha

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        my guess is there are a lot of things you don’t last more than 15 seconds doing. HAHAHAHAHA! JK!

  • Solomon. Thomas.

    Bears OLB Pernell McPhee underwent surgery to repair a torn labrum in his shoulder after the season.

    The good news is the problem was not with his troublesome knee, but it is yet another injury for a player who has struggled to stay on the field since joining the Bears in 2015. The Chicago Tribune’s
    Brad Biggs expects him to be ready for training camp, but the Bears will likely take it slow. Chicago has the makings of a dominant front seven, but they need McPhee to stay healthy. – Roto

  • MB30SD

    http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/politics/trump-time-interview-wiretaps-falsehoods/index.html

    oh! right, forgot… well in that case keep making outlandish and totally false claims daily you pos. smfh.

    • King of DBB

      Putins bitch

      • SC Dave

        lol… comically stupid

    • I’m still waiting for him to put “Crooked” Hillary behind bars like he harped on for about a year straight.
      Or to give those po rust belt workers more jobs
      Or for that wall to be built that Mexico said it wasn’t gonna pay for.

      tick tock tick tock

      • MB30SD

        I don’t even mean that shit… I mean the daily ridiculous shit he says that he pulls out of his ass and thinks it’s ok just to say whateverthefuck he wants even though he’s the leader of the fucking free world?!

        • He’s not the leader of the free world.

          I doubt other leaders are gonna follow that buffoon.

          You think Trump can hold his own in room with the Putins and Merkels of the world?

          Putin was an ex KGB operative -Merkel has a PHd in Physical Chemistry

          Trump was a reality tv show star with small cheetos hands

          • MB30SD

            such a perfect pick for america. jesus, fucking absurd.

          • willbest

            Really? You want to hold up Merkel as somebody who has done right? She could be the poster child for credentials not being the same as educated, but I suspect history will remember her in a far more negative light.

            Overplaying Germany’s hand leading to the demise of the EU experiment. The social destruction of her her own country. It won’t be pretty.

          • SC Dave

            Merkel is a fucking MORON

        • willbest

          Obama and W said that shit too. Just not in public. The transparency should be refreshing.

        • BearDown100393

          He’s not the leader of any world other than his own.

        • SC Dave

          What fucking free world are you referring to? Certainly, you cannot be talking about post-Patriot Act America?

      • SC Dave

        He’s been in office for what, three months now?

        • MB30SD

          it’s comin boys…yeeeeeeeehaaaaaaw!

        • Trump went from “Lock her up” to, ““I don’t want to hurt the Clintons, I really don’t,” Mr. Trump said during the interview. “She went through a lot and suffered greatly in many different ways, and I am not looking to hurt them at all.”

          There were A LOT of voters who really wanted to lock her up, that were DUPED.

    • Cormonster

      Isn’t everyone “wiretapped”? Fuck, Snowden showed us that. It’s more likely than not that Trump was spied on. Hell, Obama was wiretapping the press in this country and his BFF Merkel. Obama’s administration was like Nixon’s on steroids, but nobody cares anymore. Even Trump’s private conversations with other world leaders during his first two weeks as President were leaked to the press.

      In more important news, I would like to congratulate Chelsea Clinton on winning a lifetime achievement award from Variety magazine. I think she won it for helping the children.

      • MB30SD

        it’s all about the chillun’s maings

        • leftcoast dave

          Too funny. The reality is that every phone call made by anyone in America is now being monitored and held by de uberlords. Those calls are only to be available pursuant to a FISA warrant. And then they are supposed to be redacted to protect the innocent American citizens who are not the target of the warrant. The reality is that both the FBI and the CIA can access that “metadata.”

          What happened is that the Obummer Administration decided to grab on to it, whether their patsy was Comey or someone else in the “deep state”, one upping Millhouse bigtime, and decided to leak what they wanted to discredit Trump. Val Jer? Obummer himself? We shall see. But Obummer’s fingerprints will be all over it, whether the lame stream media covers it or not. It b commin’ out.

          Dem’s the facts boyz and they are coming out, like it or not.

          • MB30SD

            The NSA is now more intimately knowledgeable of every contour of my cock than my ex of 16 years was.

            Enjoy all my cock pics guys!

  • MB30SD

    http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-competition-committee-announces-rule-proposals-to-enhance-safety/ar-BByE6M2?li=BBnb7Kz

    nothing reeeeaally interesting in there. few good ones (centralizing calls, giving refs tablets to review calls, etc… then there are these two:

    1. The expansion of a defenseless player protection to include receivers running routes, including the area 5 yards from the line of scrimmage

    2. Banning defensive players from leaping over the long snapper during field goal and extra point attempts

    The first one is the continued pussification of the game we love and is sad and unfair to defenses. Plaing and simple.

    the second one is just lame. smh.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Per #2, CD just lost some of the little value he had on the Pats.

    • willbest

      I am beginning to think it should be a 5 yard penalty if a defender so much as touches a ball between the time the QB loses control and another offensive player gains control.

      • MB30SD

        it’s getting silly.

        Or that a CB/Safety cant touch a WR until he catches the ball. might as fucking well.

        • willbest

          oh I was thinking the penalty would be against the offense. It would counter balance all the advantages they have been getting in the last 20 years.

        • Scharfinator
          • MB30SD

            Yup

    • DaMurph

      We are on the way to flag football! Don’t understand outlawing the leap, why not just let the kicker out there alone with a holder and let him try, then no one can get hurt except the kicker or holder can bruise their vaginas or something

      • MB30SD

        MURPH!!!

        A bruised vagina is no joke my brother

        • willbest

          truth. Wife has had a bruised vagina 3 times and I had blue balls for 8-9 weeks each time.

          • leftcoast dave

            Damn. What did you do, let her get her hands on a Harley Davidson vibrator?

          • MB30SD

            The bruised vagina is my go to after-date calling card will

      • AlbertInTucson

        Once upon a time, placekickers were actual football players.

        Guys like Lou Groza, Roger LeClerc, George Blanda.

        Now they are tiny specialists getting slaughtered by guys leaping over the line.

        • Johnnywad

          Robbie Gould made a decent tackle or two in his day.

          • AlbertInTucson

            So did Butthead back in the day.

            He said when he did, his teammates were absolutely giddy, like a a parent watching their kid score a goal in in a peewee soccer game.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Blanda is some kind of legend …

          • AlbertInTucson

            Halas blew that one.

            Bears cut him and he threw 36 TD passes in one season for the Oilers even before he began saving games for The Raiders with his arm AND his foot.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That was 36 TDs in a 14 game season in a League that we now know was not as inferior to the NFL wanted everyone to believe. A fact the NFL learned in te 50s when the Browns moved in fron the All-America Conference and was more than competitive from the get-go.

          • SC Dave

            Well, the did have Otto Graham, and soon, Jim Brown.

    • 3. By Philadelphia: Expands the “crown of helmet” foul to include “hairline” part of helmet.

      WTF does this mean?

      I’m with Bill. EVERYTHING should be challengable esp “defenseless receiver” penalties and maybe PIs.

      Those determine outcomes.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Only if they

        A) Take the referee OUT of the replay equation. It is a clear conflict of interest for them to be asked to overrule themselves or their crews. Replay call is the sole responsibility of the replay officials.

        B) Replay is viewed in Real Time only. No slo-mo and no zooming in like we’re searching for microbes. Its a football game, not a search for the cure for cancer.

        C) Replay has 30 seconds to look at the play. If it takes longer than that with the point B restrictions then its not obvious and lets play on. Hire video professionals to handle the video equipment. These replays that take MINUTES are a joke. A 10 year old can do a replay faster on his DVR.

  • FresnoBear88

    Sanchez

    • Ugh.
      That means if Glennon goes down, it’s gonna be Sanchize, not Shaw or draft pick stepping in.

      Moses christ

      • SC Dave

        We’ll see. I hope it’s Shaw and we spend all the draft on D and O line.

    • BearDown100393

      Pacebot officially full-retard mode.

  • ButtonShoes

    Mark Sanchez. Mark Sanchez?! The Buttfumbler?!?! Seriously?!?!?!? I really, really, really, really want to see Ryan Pace get fired right now.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Fuck me, he’s a Bear. I was qetting quietly excited about the possibility of seeing trubs or watson develop. There can be no way he’s drafting a QB now. Sanchize and Gummo. Take that Chicago. Right up the gicker.

    Forgive them Jay, for they know not what they do …

    “The eighth-year veteran has started 72 career games, posting a 56.7 completion rate, 86:86 TD-to-INT ratio and 73.9 passer rating. He’s among the most turnover-prone quarterbacks of his era.”

    • BerwynBomber

      “Forgive them, Jay …”?????

      An over-commitment to Cutler is why we find ourselves in this mess …

      • MB30SD

        bingo

      • Irish Sweetness

        Can’t abide by that. Can’t blame a player for the state of the franchise. The buck stops with the front office.

        • BerwynBomber

          Oh, I agree. I put Cutty’s contract more on Emery than Cutty himself. But it was a bad move regardless.

          • willbest

            I would feel better about our QB situation if it were Cutler, Shaw, #36 than I do with Glennon and Sanchez

          • BerwynBomber

            But that is almost entirely contingent upon the #36 (or at least I would assume that would be your reasoning).

            But I don’t think Sanchez precludes Pace from drafting a kid this year (unless we paid Sanchez substantial back-up money, which I doubt). Sanchez might only be a back-up plan in case the draft doesn’t fall the way Pace bets. Hell, Sanchez might only be a back-up plan to Shaw for all we know.

            And heck even then I might still go the latter option if only because Glennon v Cutler. Not that I am convinced Glennon will be as good or better than Cutler, only that we already know what Jay is and isn’t. And I’m open — for at least part of the year — to see what Glennon is/isn’t.

      • revisionist facts!

    • Hoyer, McCown, Barkley, Foles, Glennon, Geno Smith, Mallett, Josh Johnson, Schuab, EJ Manuel, Kellen Moor, Matt Cassel, Kellen Clemens…

      Just some of the illustrious QBs who’ve been signed while Cargo is smoking a cig watching “Duece Biggallow, Male Gigalo”

      • BerwynBomber

        Cassel may have landed the job that could have been ideal for Cutty: backing up Mariota in Jay’s and Kristen’s preferred destination of Nashville.

        HOU could still sign him depending on the Romo sweepstakes, but Rappoport reported this week that HOU has no interest in him. Whether that’s permanent or temporary is TBD.

        Elway and Cutty have their mutual Trump love to bond them, but maybe not much else. Would be surprising if horse teeth would want to go near Cutty and his perceived attitude.

        If nothing else, Jay news may have to wait another month or so …

      • willbest

        Jay don’t get out of bed for $15 million.

        • MB30SD

          Jay dooooooonn’t caaaaaaare

  • BerwynBomber

    For now I wouldn’t read too much into this. Sanchize, like Shaw, is just a body. My guess is we will pay him even less than we pay a guy like Sherrick McManis. AKA peanuts. And easy to cut, as DEN did last year.

    The big tell will be, of course, the draft. If we don’t draft a QB, then ’17 will be all about determining whether Glennon is the future, which in itself might also mean that Pace is eyeing the ’18 crop for his franchise guy.

    Pace, I’m betting, views Sanchize (and Shaw) as a potential back-up to his ’17 draft plans. He is targeting one or two QBs but if he can’t get either then he needs someone behind Glennon for ’17. Then he will go all in during the ’18 draft.

    • leftcoast dave

      Happy to see it. Makes me think he won’t waste the 3 on anybody available, QB or otherwise. SELL IT. TAKE WHAT YOU CAN GET, EARLY AND OFTEN. Lots of quality at lots of positions in the low first through the third and fourth.

      My bet. First pick will be an OT.

      • SC Dave

        No. First pick should be Jamal Adams or Solomon Thomas.

        The. End.

        • leftcoast dave

          Not likely to happen. That pick is worth much more to a rebuilding team than just one player.

          Bet on it.

          • MB30SD

            I hope so, but you can’t make it happen just cause you want it… has to come with the right deal.

          • leftcoast dave

            Pace is deekin’ all over the place, checking out this dude and that dude. Hey, NFL, we might draft the dude you want. You want him, you can have him. Just give us a pick and we’ll swap out. How low do we go, depends on what you have to offer. If you only want us to drop one or three, we’ll take a second, third and or fourth. And we’ll do that early and often.

            Somebody is going to want that 3 pick more than we need it.

          • Scharfinator

            You never get stars in their prime from free agency though, only the draft.

            You will NEVER have highlight reel guys if you always trade back.

            Whether we need highlighters or journeymen right now, I don’t know. I do know what I’d prefer to watch though.

        • MB30SD

          100% david.

          SHOULD is the key word my man. Which, as a bears fan lately, makes me worry it won’t happen. Fingers crossed.

      • Irish Sweetness

        That’s a good guess methinks. I’m also half-expecting a WTF first pick.

        • MB30SD

          We all are sadly.

          But based on history, my wtf first pick would be your first choice pick… And vice versa

    • ButtonShoes

      You know, if Pace just came outright and said “I signed Glennon and Sanchez to tank this upcoming season so we could get a better QB in 2018,” that would be refreshing.

      • MB30SD

        no, that would be Donald Trump

      • Yes, that would’ve been great for team morale and signing FAs.

        • ButtonShoes

          If you’re going to lose anyway, lose big, and for a good reason. Josh Allen’s not a bad one. Neither is Sam Darnold.

        • BerwynBomber

          Not only that but a) Glennon might actually turn out to be a competent, average starter, or b) even a Sanshize or Shaw might catch lightning in a bottle.

          Plus, (and again) I’m not sure the Sanchize signing says much about Pace’s plans unless we gave him some insane amount to be a back-up, which I highly doubt.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          and it would make all the companies that advertise and buy lux boxes really happy.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Sure. Teams admit that ALL the time.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pace mightn’t be here for the next draft. The arrow is not currently pointed up.

      • BerwynBomber

        He’ll be here. Fox is another story.

        • Scharfinator

          This is my hope. Fox has been good to get credibility restored and he has the knowledge to help our current players. Soon we need a hungry coach who also has the fire.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ginny has a wet spot for him?

          • MB30SD

            Pretty sure she can’t anymore

      • Pace will get the chance to hire his own HC and QB

        • SC Dave

          Seems reasonable.

    • SC Dave

      Pace has repeatedly alluded to his strategy of filling needs in FA so that they have more flexibility in the draft.

      He certainly seems to be executing to that.

      Another obvious trend is towards youth.

      • MB30SD

        And shitty, but cheap football players?

        Hahahahahaha… Couldn’t resist. Almost too easy

        • leftcoast dave

          Players with the chip, wanting and needing to prove something. I’ll take that over the AJ tude.

          • BearDown100393

            How’s that been working out so far?

          • MB30SD

            3-13?

          • leftcoast dave

            3-13, great draft opportunities, a complete rebuild to be judged by where the O line is now compared to two and three years ago, a D 7 with the same to be said and now a rebuilt secondary and receiver corp. The D should be much improved, the O line should also be with the TE position more solid, the rest remains to be seen.

          • MB30SD

            Totally, I’m with you… Tbd

          • BearDown100393

            I agree about the defense and O-line. I’m rather concerned about Kyle Long’s future though.

          • leftcoast dave

            Oh, yea. Draft OT, maybe a G down the list. Work Grassu in, plan for it and give the workhorse as much rest as possible.

          • MB30SD

            100% with you… That said, overpaying for your favorite blue chipper (one) wouldn’t have been a bad idea either… Then get your value guys.

        • Doubles

  • Irish Sweetness

    Glennon and EJ Manuel was very doable. They could have signed Mike first, then picked up Manuel. All of a sudden you’ve got two guys that could be the guy, and you’ve got a genuine backup. You don’t have to ride your golden boy anymore. Let the best man win if it turns into a QB controversy later on.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Just finished watching Kurt Warner’s A Football Life. What a dude. If you added up scores for perseverance, talent, getting teams to super bowls, being a decent human being, being selfless, being a leader … he’d be the best ever.

    Interesting to see how Martz nearly ruined him and what a terrible choice he was for Cutty.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFUmsZXINXQ

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      and he was a big supporter of Ugly Women need Loving Too.

      • BearDown100393

        Kyle Orton. Lisa Lampanelli. Just saying.

      • MB30SD

        You are like my little asshole voice in my head.

        I think exactly what you usually actually write.

        Uncanny.

        • King of DBB


          Asshole in your head
          Asshole in your head
          Into this house we’re born
          Into this world we’re thrown
          Like a dog without a bone
          An actor out on loan
          Asshole in your head

          There’s a Trump man on da blog
          His brain is squirmin’ like a frog
          Take a long holiday
          Let the trolls there play
          If you give this post a tip
          Sweet discourse will get the nip
          Trump man on da blog, yeah

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          i am going to take that as a compliment. thank you.

          • MB30SD

            You’re welcome

        • Huge penises in ur mind.
          Not surprised

    • leftcoast dave

      Dude’s awesome. Went to University of Northern Iowa (where we found Deondre’ Hall), was bagging groceries but persevered. What a big heart.

      Thanks for posting.

    • leftcoast dave

      Just watched it. Killer.

  • BearDown100393

    A bridge backup quarterback behind a bridge starting quarterback.

    “just a body”

    Super.

    So when does Pacebot actually bring talent on board during this supposed rebuild?

  • MB30SD

    Dave, maybe this is better: https://youtu.be/FkqNrcVLOMg

  • Irish Sweetness

    Kizer coming in to work out for the Bears next week.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000794749/article/what-we-learned-kizer-makes-strides-with-proday-workout

    Cleveland and SF both have question marks at QB – it’s not inconceivable they could go Trubisky at 1 and Kizer/Watson at 2 … leaving Garret on the board for us.

    • willbest

      Us getting Garrett is just a hair more probable than fournette

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ll take either!!

  • Captain Obvious

    So I think the Glennon situation means one of three possibilities for 2017:

    85% likely that Glennon will be Hoyer-esque and is little more than a placeholder until a real QB can come in and take the job.
    5% likely that Glennon will put the team on his shoulders and have a Pro Bowl year and be the guy for the future at a bargain-basement price. However, this means that Birdcage will be seen as some sort of QB-fixer (which would likely be the case for Glennon to have that kind of year), and he’s gone to the next team to have a HC vacancy. Thereby undercutting Glennon’s future success.
    10% likely that Pace has another strong draft, fixing the back end of the defense — then the defense (and power running game) gels and DESPITE Glennon’s Hoyer-ish performance, the team avoids the injury bug and rides a mediocre QB into the playoffs (one-and-done). And every Bears fan screams hatred for Pace, because although he fixed the rest of the roster, had he made ONE BLOODY DECENT move to improve the QB situation, we’d have a contender instead of a pretender.

    Pace (and the organization) has no real path to true success in 2017. I plan to watch games the same way I look at UIUC scores: pleased if they win, but not affected one way or the other… because it won’t amount to much.

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