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Finding a Quarterback: Mike Glennon and the Art of Quarterbacking

| February 7th, 2017

Early in Jay Cutler’s career with the Bears, he led the Bears to a win on Monday Night Football. This wasn’t enough to satisfy ESPN’s Steve Young who went on a crazy rant about the so-called “art of quarterbacking” simply because he didn’t like the way Cutler played.

It was the kind of pretentious bullshit that makes Young and Trent Dilfer hard to listen to. They want everyone to play the quarterback position a certain way –  the way that makes guys like Marc Trestman ejaculate – and everyone who doesn’t is just wrong. Cutler didn’t play that way. They still can’t stand it.

Personally, I only care about getting the job done. It was rarely pretty and the stats weren’t glorious, but Cutler was effective on that night as he has been in most games. You don’t get points for beauty in the NFL but there’s still a certain something a quarterback has to have.

Jay Cutler has it. Mike Glennon does not.

Glennon has his supporters based solely on the raw statistics he had early in his career. In 13 starts his rookie season, Glennon threw 19 touchdown passes to just nine interceptions. The next year, he threw 10 touchdown passes and six interceptions, serving most of the season as Josh McCown’s backup.

You can craft an argument for Glennon around those statistics, but that argument dies when you watch him play. I watched Glennon play in four games and the conclusion was damning. He just isn’t good.

I started my study on Glennon with the only extended action he saw this year, a blowout loss to Atlanta. He didn’t throw a single inaccurate pass, completing 10 of his 11 attempts with one touchdown. He also didn’t attempt a single pass further than 10 yards down the field. He took advantage of a soft defense that knew it already had the game won.

I went back to 20014 and tried to pick out three of Glennon’s better games and even his best games weren’t good. Out of 114 passes Glennon attempted in the two games, he was inaccurate on 36 percent of them, by far the worst rate of any quarterback — college of pro — I’ve studied so far. Even if you add in the Atlanta game from this past season, his inaccuracy rate is still well over 30%.

It’s easy to look at the 56 sacks he took in 2013 and 2014 and say protection was the problem, but I felt Glennon was the problem with their protection. The dude seemed to hold onto the ball until he was going to get hit, at which point he either took a sack or just chucked it in the area of a receiver. The fact that he doesn’t have more interceptions is a fluke. He can’t avoid pressure and didn’t have any feel for when guys were coming to destroy him.

Glennon takes a ton of sacks, isn’t accurate and doesn’t pick up many yards when he does complete passes. So what does he do well? He throws a decent ball. He looks the part and he can deliver strikes down the field when he isn’t getting hit. Glennon could have success if he signed with a team like Dallas or Green Bay; a team with a great supporting cast and good system that would limit the thinking and moving he would have to do. For the Bears, however, I don’t see a fit. Glennon is a backup quarterback and that’s all anyone should ask him to be.

I agree with what Young said on that Monday night several years ago, there is an art to playing the position. Glennon has a paint brush, but nothing else.

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  • Captain Obvious

    Oh dear God not Glennon no no no.

  • MB30SD

    What the what?!

    Can we PLEASE stop trying to force a desperate move and just wait till next year?!

    • MB30SD

      Besides that, he looks like the second coming of Todd marajuanavich

    • Irish Sweetness

      Speaking of desperate moves, you bang any bush rats yet?

      • MB30SD

        hell naw

        and that’s harsh

    • #Arnold18

  • Irish Sweetness

    Once more, there can be no talk of QBs until we know whether or not Cutty is a Bear next season.

    If he is a Bear, then you can pull the trigger on a Trubs or Kizer, or whomsoever Ryan Pace et al think is a good QB, then throw the rookie to the wolves if he goes down.

    If he is not a Bear, then you need a vet to go with the guy you draft (or to start, while you see what you have in Shaw).

    I’ll go with Andrew’s assessment of Glennon, I haven’t really seen him play. If we’re only rolling with two QBs (which I think is always a mistake), then he isn’t one of them … but people need to get on board with the fact that Cutty did turn a corner in 2015. To appease the doubters, maybe a QB at #3 isn’t such a bad idea. Hooker would be a nice addition, but we all know that a FS doesn’t really compare to a QB.

    If it is just 2 QBs …. I think we already have them on the roster. Go DE or FS, then see what’s up in 2018 come draft day.

    • We already know. Cutler will not be a Bear next season.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        we do? Based on the conjecture of the media. Sorry heard that song and dance before. BTW I am fine with cutting loose of him, and I actually assume we will but until Pace comes out and tells us they cut/traded him. I am assuming he is on the team next season. It’s not like Pace and Fox are very forthcoming with any of their decisions.

        • All signs point to it. Pace spent the whole season scouting top college QBs. He spoke at length in his end-of-season press conference about what he was looking for in a franchise QB, and that description was certainly not one of Jay Cutler.

          They hopefully won’t have another top 3 pick in a while, I’ll be shocked if they don’t turn one of their first 2 picks into a QB.

          I’d guess 95%+ odds that Cutler is not in training camp with the Bears.

          • hopefully it’s not the first of those 2 picks.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      Shaw is 100% not a starting option.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        PSH!!!

        • willbest

          Future HOF

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    I’d prefer not to take Tampa’s rejects. It’s unprofitable.

  • Redflagdan

    Interesting, in the 2013 draft year the Bears actually had a private workout with Glennon.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Just throwing it out there … E.J Manuel does not look terrible on tape .. .Air McNair type …6’5 230 … and capable of these types of throws. His stats are based on spotty starts and not good, but he passes the eyeball test and will be available for peanuts. Backup for Cutty, or throw him into the mix if they go with drafting a QB.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBDqyq_6Oc0

    • http://i.imgur.com/gT83EWF.gif?noredirect

      Oh wait, you’re serious? EJ Manuel?

      Yeah, I don’t know what to tell you about that. Besides the obvious that EJ Manuel sucks.

      • And you really have to get over the Cutler bit. He’s gone. And it’s time.

        Cutler’s not great and not terrible. You can win with him with a solid roster around him.

        But this is a team that’s in the middle of rebuilding and he’s about to turn 34 with a long injury history. The time has come to find their QB for the next 10 years.

        • willbest

          I am not convinced there are better options long term, and certainly not in 2017. I feel like getting rid of him to get rid of him isn’t the best business decision.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            For once I agree with you. If they trade for Jimmy G or McCarron, sure cut bait with him. If they draft a QB, I suggest keeping him another year. I don’t like throwing a rookie into the fire unless the situation is perfect. If they are determined to get rid of Cutty, then wait until right before the season starts, it will not cost us anymore to keep him that long, and it gives us a greater opportunity to trade him to a team that ends up with a QB injury.

          • You’re not convinced that there’s a better option than an old inj-TO prone, inaccurate, no leader, QB?

            I would rather draft and ride with Mahomes.

          • willbest

            If you draft him at 36 fine. But he isn’t going to have a better command of the playbook than Cutler in 2017. The only guy I expect to have a better 2017 as a Bear than Cutler would be Cousins, and I am convinced the Skins get a deal done with him.

  • David Green

    “Cutler has it.” I’ve been waiting 8 years to see “it”, there’s just a few qbs that have the “it factor” and Cutler isn’t one of them, he’s one of the many interchangeable qbs in the league, those who failed to reach their so called “potential”, the type that fans love to blame everyone else for their shortcomings, type that gets coaches fired because they couldn’t tap into their perceived “potential”, more hope and promise than PRODUCTION.

    You point out the sacks that Glennon took, how about the many sacks that Cutler has taken by holding onto the ball far too long, locking in on one target, waiting for him to get open? His minimal success came from them dummying down the playbook for him, made him a big armed captain check down, because they were scared crap less of him targeting down field, turnover waiting to happen.

    I’m not for bringing in Glennon, think he’s too tall and not mobile enough for my liking, but choosing one out of every 3 games that cutler does well as an example, isn’t what I’d refer to as “it.” None of the qbs on the roster has “it”, Pace has his hands full, we can add all the defensive help in the world and if he doesn’t find the qb with “it”, or close to it, it’ll be another lost season.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You didn’t see it in 2015? I did. I saw a changed man, and I watched every game twice. I’ve fallen in and out of love with Cutty so much in his career that I feel like a beaten housewife … but he did change.

      Last season was an anomaly with Cutty, none of us know how or when he got injured to the point where it affected his play. Truly some throws were too bad to be true. In 2014/15 he threw for over 7000 yards, 59 TDs with 29 INTs and an AVG QBR of 90. This on a team with no receivers,
      and a bullshit OL. With a hopefully improved OL next season, Jordan Howard – the pro bowler – and a few additions to the WR room and our defense … and I’m sure that Cutty will have his best ever season.

      He’s not bad. He’s way better than any options on the table before us. He’s a professional QB, unlike say Hoyer – who can’t make professional throws. You point out you don’t want Cutty, or Glennon. Fair enough. Who do you want? It’s a blog of opinions. Share.

      • BerwynBomber

        That “bullshit OL” rated as the best OL in the NFCN in ’15. It was notably better than GB’s, MIN’s, and DET’s.

        And you can easily make the argument that Cutty’s Pace season was the true anomaly.

        P.S. Do I think Cutty is better than Glennon? More than likely. But after eight years let’s not act like we are sitting on QB gold here.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        you are right….sound like a beaten housewife.

      • leftcoastdave

        JC and all the QB’s had to deal with the OL tumult and learning to gel. Now we have a solid core with the front five and perhaps among the best in the middle three. Then consider the improvement which will come with scheme recognition and the help which can come from additional rub blocks out of the backs or from the receiving corp. Intangibles to be sure, but the help our amazingly adequate Tackles need.

        You can’t criticize the QB’s if they don’t have the needed protection and go down with season ending injuries.

        • willbest

          JC needs more protection than Hoyer/McCown, because JC either doesn’t process that his WR’s are about to get open or doesn’t trust what he is seeing.

          This is unfortunate because he is physically very gifted. Incidentally, this is what impressed the Cowboys about Dak. He demonstrated a very high football IQ when they were interviewing him.

          • leftcoastdave

            I’m still high on Barkley. He had zero time in practice with the receiving corp before being thrown in. Give Bellami an incentive bonus to have finger extension surgery and/or spend every waking moment in the off season catching footballs and who knows what might happen?

          • CanadaBear

            I think you should have stopped after the first three words (4 if you count a contraction as 2). Barkley is nobody’s idea of a decent QB and Bellamy had the worst drop rate in the league.

          • Barkley is a Cutler clone but without the arm or cap.

            Screw that.

          • Cargo is a mambo.

            More than one former WR has already gone on record stating Cargo has ZERO anticipation which would explain why he holds on to the ball too long, taking sacks (and the strips are from his bad mechanics).

            Anticipation and recognition of Ds and down and distant are fucking PARAMOUNT to being a winning QB.

      • CanadaBear

        You kinda glossed over the 20 fumbles when you cherry picked those 2 years.

      • Scharfinator

        Can Cutler put up big numbers when he is inevitably riding the bench from injuries? He’s not getting younger and he’s been consistently hurt at Chicago. In fact, he’s ONLY played 16 games in his first season with Chicago.

    • SC Dave

      Thanks for saving me the trouble of typing all that. I’m still waiting too; we’d all like to think that 2015 meant something, but it didn’t.

    • Tortured Bear fan

      Tyrod Taylor could make a case.

    • Welcome aboard!

  • I want nothing to do with anybody who got beaten out by Josh McCown and has been a backup ever since.

    Next.

  • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

    It doesn’t matter what Jeff thinks Cutler has

    The Pace 2000 and Fox are done with the guy. Every GM at this juncture in year 3 wants a QB and damn if we are not getting one. Only question is; Kizer Wilhelm or are we trading our juicy pick for the Pats trash

    • SC Dave

      No Patriots trade. No. No. No.

      • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

        The Pats will take Hooker if they get that 3.

        • willbest

          Don’t they already have 2 quality safeties locked up?

          • willbest

            McCourty is under contract until 2020. Chung until 2019.

          • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

            You are probably correct, I was being needlessly cynical.

            They could grab Allen who is prototype 3-4 RDE. Mocks have the Pats taking DL in most mocks.

          • willbest

            My fear is they draft a QB with our #3 if we give it for G.

    • Tortured Bear fan

      Not this year, Pliiissss

  • BearDown100393

    Jay Cutler is our starting quarterback.

    • willbest

      At present he is our only QB, we will see what happens when FA opens though.

    • 505Bears

      With a good running game and some new pieces on defense, I wouldn’t mind, given he has the WRs he needs. Just don’t draft one of these QBs at 3 overall.

  • One Dump from Retirement (GP)
    • Bender McLugh

      priceless

      • willbest

        Not as good as killing an American without a trial though.

        • Bender McLugh

          nice try

          • willbest

            Just remember you are okay with it when Trump does it.

          • Bender McLugh

            I’m fairly certain you mistake me, sir!

      • SC Dave

        Way to support your country.

        • Bender McLugh

          you must be joking. if not, get over it bud

    • willbest

      I love the implicit that Trump is supposed to plan these operations. As opposed to Flynn saying “hey we got some generals that think this raid will produce valuable intel, here are the pros and cons, I tend to be believe the benefits outweigh the risks”

      • Same as it was Obama/Clinton’s fault for Benghazi, it’s Trump’s fault for Yemen.

        He’s the QB, and you know they’re the only ones with a W-L record.

        • SC Dave

          Is it? My understanding was that the Clinton State Department repeatedly IGNORED the advice of the people in the know. Which is the exact opposite of will’s scenario to which you replied.

          • leftcoastdave

            Not to mention lied through her teeth about it and the YouTube video.

          • the YouTube video? you mean this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uwXHdPTFfZ4

          • My understanding is that the repeated ignoring wasn’t as widespread as republicans painted it to be. But that’s the story with everything – your truth depends on your side. Which is a very wonky world to live in. But here we are.

            In Will’s scenario, the president approved a raid with insufficient intelligence. Had he said no there would have been no raid. So how does that not effect his W-L record?

            Also, Sean Spicer called the Yemen raid “a successful operation by all standards.” Why is he ok with civilian deaths and a Navy Seal death? Can you imagine the blowback had Obama been so flippant about the loss of a soldier?

          • willbest

            Obama was flippant, though he was seldom put in that position because while daily death totals were a thing during the Bush administration they disappeared when he took office. Of course they will make a comeback. As are all the stories about non-citizens being inconvenienced by EO’s, something we haven’t heard about in the last 8 years either. Or when Trump is or isn’t in the situation room. Of course, neither was Mattis, and nobody has explained to me why Trump should have been in the room when he wasn’t. Nor has anybody bothered to ask how many Ops Obama was in the situation room for and what the standard practice on that is. I have no idea, but it seems relevant information in determining whether what Trump did or didn’t do was newsworthy.

            And people think its dangerous for Trump to point out that the media is opposition.

            As for W-L. Could you kindly explain to me who the fuck has the ability to make that determination who doesn’t have a vested interest in lying? And that is true during Obama, Bush and every other president where we were playing geopolitical games.

            Obviously, allah akbar or whatever his name is has a vested interest in making the US look bad. Obviously, the US has a vested interest in not looking bad. You think the members of the seal team are going to reveal if it was search and kill or kill and search? And its unlikely that anybody below the top brass have any idea the true extent of what the search turned up. They could have gotten numbered accounts allowing the US to track its enemies financial information, or they could have fond out what kind of porn he likes. Do you think they are likely to reveal the truth?

            Anyway, its no secret what side I am on and I know Dave and a few others are fairly big Obama critics, even if they aren’t entirely behind Trump. I know the last 10 months have been a nice solid back and forth battle around here, but prior to the election heating up I don’t recall a lot of daily criticism coming from our contingent. I am hoping its just because Trump is new, and this will fade. But it does seem like GP is having trouble accepting his new reality.

            And its unfortunate for his side generally, because what they are doing is very boy who cries wolf. One of these days Trump is going to have a major misstep, and I am not going to believe it because I will have spent the last 600 days dismissing bullshit on a daily basis.

          • BerwynBomber

            State Dept in terms of decisions on military action? They’re largely a diplomatic department. POTUS calls those shots, not State.

          • SC Dave

            So POTUS is responsible for evacuating state dept personnel? News to me.

        • willbest

          If Benghazi was a military operation, where was the military? Or are you saying that it really was a back channel arms sale, and that is a legitimate exercise of the Presidents powers? And I don’t recall Trump trying to blame a youtube video for a “spontaneous riot” to cover up whatever the hell actually happened.

          Maybe this was a botched assassination attempt, maybe it was just an intel raid (botched or not who knows), but nobody has ever said it wasn’t a deliberate military action.

          And no I don’t agree with Trump’s decision to pursue this Yemen thing on behalf of the House of Saud, but then Obama started this conflict along with Syria, Libya, and the Ukraine. And this op on the surface looks like it furthers whatever aims Obama started.

          So I will give Trump more than a couple weeks to figure out how to proceed before turning on him. Its not like he doesn’t have a billion other things to do.

          • I wasn’t calling it a military operation or an arms sale or a this or a that or the other. I was simply saying as the nominal QB, the president is the one most likely to get the credit/flack for any mission.

            Agree about Obama getting us involved in Yemen. Not his finest decision, and there still remains the nasty cloudy of illegality hovering over our drone warfare there without Congressional approval. But Trump’s putting boots on the ground without Congressional approval is just as illegal, and it got one of ours killed.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            President does not need Congressional approval for that type of mission. Only need Congressional approval when declaring war.

          • so as long as you don’t say “i declare war!” you can continue to bomb/put boots on the ground in foreign lands? doesn’t make sense, no matter who’s sitting in the oval office.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Its called the War Powers resolution. If troops are put on the ground the President has to inform congress within 48 hours. I think they can stay there for 60 days without Congress approval, if it goes longer the President needs Congress Approval. But when it comes to covert ops like what was done in Yemen, or killing Bin Laden, those ops are usually in and out and so President does not really need to let congress know.

    • leftcoastdave

      So you criticize the President for following the advice of the military command to try to go in for the intel rather than lobbing another missile from a drone? And the source of your intel is?

      • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

        Obama shelved the Op, which the article states clearly. He shelved it because they were not 100% that if they went in, they would get their man.

        Trump heard “the bad guy MIGHT be there” from the brass, and he fucking went for it, and he was wrong. Now the bad guy is taunting him from whatever fuck hole he’s in. To rile up support. Which is what you would expect the terrorist to do.

        So my analogy of Trump to Khan is both brilliant and right on point.

        If you get your fucking panties in a twist over it, that’s your god damn problem. The SEAL that’s dead, he was from Peoria, IL.

        • willbest

          So you were in the room when Trump made the decision or is it your belief that somebody in the room talked to the press?

          Considering how much the media has said of Trump the last 2 weeks has turned out to be bullshit 2 days later when the rest of the facts come out, only a religious zealot would believe anything disparaging about the man that can’t possibly be verified by anybody other than a Trump loyalist.

          • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

            Hey, did the GOP give Jimmy Carter a pass when the SEALs crashed in the Iranian desert to rescue the hostages? Just asking.

            How did the Reagan faithful regard that?

          • willbest

            No idea, I wasn’t walking when that happened. Interesting times pre-internet.

          • Reagan pretty much built his entire ticket on that, no?

            I member…

  • willbest

    If you bring up Favre in the context of the Jimmy G trade you are on the Jimmy G band wagon. Its like bringing up Brady when talking about finding QB’s anywhere in the draft. Sure it HAS happened. But for every Brady or Romo there are a hundred David Fales.

    Its better when trading for QB’s but there is still significantly more risk than just using your high first round pick on a QB

    • Huge Bears Penis

      disagree.

    • it sounds like you’ve given up on David Fales.

      • willbest

        I was never on the Fales bandwagon. The only times I thought it was a good idea to play Fales was 2015 against the Seahawks, and 2014 when Cutler was scapegoated because in both instances I knew Clausen was bad so why not give the developmental QB a proper interview.

  • leftcoastdave

    Buy Eric Berry, don’t try to draft for him and don’t waste the value of that #3 with anybody on the board. Let the teams who are horny for a pick come and get it, for a price. Do it early and often. The FA market should fix at least two needs – S and CB. This is a great draft for TE, DE and depth everywhere, including a good shot at OT. Why sell out for a cast off QB? Build it and they will come. Until then, develop what we have and already know the system and look to next year for a QB if Barkley does not improve dramatically with practice time and better decision making. We’ve got a great interior line and Jordan Howard. With that threat, we don’t need the greatest QB in the game and shouldn’t take the gamble on anybody.

    • willbest

      Chiefs still have a few weeks to come to terms with him. He has said he won’t play on the tag again, but that is probably just posturing. Its 13 million guaranteed at a position where only McCourty and Mathieu have cleared 18 million in guaranteed money. And McCourty did is by only taking 9 million a year.

    • BerwynBomber

      Well, for one we don’t know what a cast out QB will cost. On the one hand, the price of the QB market is always rising. On the other, guys like Oz and Fitzpatrick should serve as cautionary reminders about said rising costs.

  • BerwynBomber

    “Glennon could have success if he signed with a team like Dallas or Green Bay; a team with a great supporting cast and good system that would limit the thinking and moving he would have to do.”

    GB doesn’t ask its QB to think? That’s new. Every time I see the Cheese, Rodgers appears closer to calling his own plays than any QB in the NFL. And not moving? Half of their O seems dependent upon Rodger’s mobility.

    And can we stop with this GB has such superb talent (beyond Rodgers) nonsense? Rodgers, like Brady and Brees, makes guys around him look better than they are. Does anyone truly think that Jordy Nelson is in the same category as Julio, Dez, OBJ, AJ Green, etc? Please. Give Rodgers Alshon and Cam Meredith and w/in half of a season they would be as good if not better than Jordy and Adams. (I’ll leave Cobb out because he is a true slot guy and better than Eddie Royal.)

    The Cheese are also a team that used a back-up slot receiver as the #1 RB this year, the same player who never came within forty yards of rushing for 100 in a single game against any team not named the Chicago Bears. So yeah … call me crazy but I think Jordan Howard is a tiny bit better than Ty Montgomery.

    And yes they have three good OLinemen in Bachtieri, Linsley and Lang, but guess what, so do we in Sittion, Whitehair and Long.

    Anyway, sorry for the extended rant. Just so sick of hearing about Ted Thompson’s brilliance, McCarthy’s genius, or Dom Capers as one of the best DCs in the league. Yes, GB is not New Orleans. I’ll give them that. But they’re a hugely overrated team whose all-world QB hides a ton of mediocrity, not just on the field but on the sidelines and in their front offices.

    And in terms of the best surrounding O talent in the NFC beside DAL, it’s the team from GA we saw choke epically this past Sunday. Moreover, if Glennon sucks as bad as you say he does, chances are it would still show even with DAL or ATL’s talent.

    • willbest

      Glennon’s O-lines wouldn’t get the same free holds that Rodger’s does. And I doubt Adams and Cobb will drop the ball less for him, or he will be able to spin gold from dogshit when he gets flushed out of the pocket.

    • BearDown100393

      Chucking the brick into the end zone takes real sideline genius.

    • SC Dave

      That made me giggle… remener all the idiocy on this very blog about Montgomeey being all that??

      Ho ho ho…

      • I made the argument that Montgemery is their best back, but that’s not saying much.

        He happens to fit their pass happy attack much like Atl with Freeman or Pats with Vereen/White/.

        But Atl and Pats have big backs too just in case the game calls for it in Coleman and Blount.

        Puke don’t have that. Montgomery might be buff, but he’s not a bull.

        • CanadaBear

          Are you forgetting about Fat Eddie or does he move on?

          • I think he’s too inj prone. I don’t even know how many games he played last two seasons.

            And his fatness has been an issue for some time.

            I think the Puke finally put a fork in him and move on.

    • Big Mike

      Fuck the Packers. They’ve lucked into two HOF quarterbacks in the last 20 years.

      • willbest

        What do you think Darth Hoodie is going to do with our pick.

        • Big Mike

          No idea. But I might regret saying this. Looking at this years’ draft class, it looks very hard to really fuck up the 3rd pick. To be precise, if you don’t need a QB, it looks like it would be very hard to mess up. If you reach and take 2nd round or late 1st round talent because you need a QB, well you’ve gone ahead and messed it up royally.

          • CanadaBear

            If QB’s go off the board at 1 and 2, Pace better call in Garrett’s name ASAP. If he’s there at 3 no way should Pace entertain offers. Garrett looks as close to a can’t miss pick as there is.

          • Big Mike

            Everyone has him locked in as the best player in the draft. But you never know, right? Getting that guy Garrett sure would be great.
            Mike

          • CanadaBear

            Agree about you never know but Garrett seems like a high percentage pick.

          • Big Mike

            If he dropped and we took him I would be ecstatic. Don’t think that’s happening. Was really thinking about this from the angle of what if he’s there and we don’t take him.

    • 100%

      Vadgers goes down, they’re drafting top 5.

  • CanadaBear

    “It was rarely pretty and the stats weren’t glorious, but Cutler was effective on that night as he has been in most games.”

    What a load of old boleros. Effective in most games? WTF has Jeff been watching? Cutler is sometimes effective against mediocre teams. He certainly isn’t effective against most good teams. Not to mention, when he’s on a roll he can lose to any team in the league. Jesus Jeff we all know you like the guy but lets not veer into alternate facts territory.

    • BerwynBomber

      Andrew. Who also said Cutler pretty much played brilliantly in the Iggles game earlier this year.

      Btw, whenever a writer or poster starts bemoaning a national analyst’s supposed personal bias against Cutler, my BS detector goes on high alert.

      • CanadaBear

        Me too. Thanks for the correction. I usually don’t screw that up (since corrected). I’ve got nothing against Jay but revisionist history is a bit much.

      • Hard for me to take what either Andy or Jeff say seriously about ANY QB when they both still defend Cutler.

    • Hey, one of the main reasons Andy got this gig was so that Jeff could hand off the burning bag of cargo-shit to andrew from time to time and carry it like a torch down the blog…and we gotta smell it.

  • BerwynBomber

    Dirty Birds hiring Sarkisian to replace Shanny Jr.

    • BearDown100393

      And the rest of the NFC cheers.

      • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

        better choice than Chip Kelly.

        • BearDown100393

          Trestman or Chip?

          • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

            Wow. Awful.

            A weasel that nobody on the team, including the O coaches, will respect or a complete crazy man for whom none of your personnel is a fit for his whackjob schemes and plays.

            As Al says, I would just assume choose death.

        • BerwynBomber

          Chip, though, made sense in one aspect: his teams play at the same speed that ATL does.

          I was surprised they never tried to slow it down once they got that huge lead on NE. But they stubbornly stuck to their script: rushed to the line and called seven step drops for Ryan. Horrible game management the last quarter and a half of that game. Gassed their D even more than necessary.

          • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

            good point. there are 8 ways to pick apart what Quinn did, but Shanny simply had no playbook for sitting on the lead as exemplified by the sack play that forced them to punt.

  • Scharfinator

    That moment when you realize your QB situation is so bad that you have to try to optimistically compare your start to Mike Glennon…

    • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

      There is ZERO love in this place for Hoyah the Destroyah.

      • Scharfinator

        He looks like he could win games if everyone around him was good. But they aren’t. I think we’d all prefer to have a QB who can put the team on his shoulders, but the fact of the matter is that those are few and far between.

        • Waffle

          I’m sorry but I’ve never seen a quarterback put a team on his shoulders. Ever. It’s a fallacy.

          • Big Mike

            Take away 2 of the worst play calls in NFL history and Brady and Hoodie are 3-4 not 5-2 in SBs. Caroll and Quinn. How do you not run the ball from the 23 on the 2nd and 11 trying to kill clock and kick a field goal to win. The only thing that keeps the Patriots in the game is getting pushed out of field goal range. Out of infinite combinations of possibilities, that is the only one that you can specifically avoid for the win.

            At the same time the Patriots are one of only a few teams, if not the only team that can capitalize on the smallest opportunity and rip the other team’s heart out.

          • Scharfinator

            Anyone who thinks that 3-4 in ONE coaches career with ONE team is a bad record is being naive.

            Are you KIDDING ME?! Wouldn’t we all KILL to be 3-4 in the SB over the last 15 years?

            WOULDN’T THAT BE FUCKING AWESOME?!!?!

          • Big Mike

            No way.  Getting there 7times is what makes them great.   Completely agree

          • Irish Sweetness

            Like the Bills four years in a row. Great team.

          • Big Mike

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          • willbest

            Somebody commented that Hoodie looked happy before the game. And I retorted “he saw the script for the 4th quarter”. I thought I was making a joke, but the comeback was so perfect it felt Hollywood.

          • Big Mike

            That was a great line.

          • Scharfinator

            Obviously it is a metaphor. No way anyone could lift 10 other people up and put them on their shoulders. Likewise, no one wins 1 v 11.

            But you can have some QBs who can get you by in scrapes and ugly games, and you have most QB’s who can’t get you out of ugly situations. A virtuoso performance in the most important position on the field is what makes the biggest difference.

            Hoyer won’t get you by in scrapes. Jay can sometimes, but he also will throw a wrench into the engine at 30000 feet and nose dive that shit into oblivion.

      • Johnnywad

        Butch has enough love in his heart for Hoyer to cover for the rest of us.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    Fuck Mike Glennon

    • Big Mike

      Really? Why?

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Why not?

        • Big Mike

          Well maybe he’s a bad QB, but “Fuck that guy” is usually reserved for players that burn us, or play for us and suck.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            sounds like a pre-emptive Fuck might be necessary in this case.

          • Big Mike

            That’s hilarious.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You have a point but maybe it’s a justified pre-emptive strike.

          • CanadaBear

            You do realize this is from DCM? He’s always a little salty (that’s why we like him!).

          • Big Mike

            I just thought it was premature. Also.. didn’t notice that. Lastly, I coached Mike when he was in 6th-8th grade.

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty cool you coached him as a kid. I try to keep the poster in mind when reading the comments. Knowing their posting personality helps me to keep things in perspective.

          • Big Mike

            Sometimes I look. I wasn’t offended or upset, just thought it was premature. But I love the pre-emptive strike comment. I can’t believe Mike’s kicked around the league this long. He’s never gotten a real shot with a solid team. I’d love to see him get his Brock Osweiller/Cade McNown opportunity and land a nice 2nd contract.

          • CanadaBear

            I would be happy for him as long as that nice 2nd contract didn’t come from the Bears. The QB solution (or lack thereof) will be fascinating this year.

          • Big Mike

            Same here.

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        Fuck him, in the asshole.

        • Big Mike

          I guess I should just ignore you.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    It seems da blog has its very own version of Crossfire.

    Tune in later today boys and girls as GP will attempt to unload his 30 clip into Will’s political hot air balloon.

    • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

      Will you wear a bowtie and moderate?

      And then afterward, you can take us for burgers in your Raptor.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Haha. No thanks, Eye’m just a casual observer. He he

      • willbest

        You know Trac seldom leaves his bunker.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Lol.

          • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

            Well then, can we just borrow the truck if we promise to leave the tin foil on the roof panel?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Tin foil doesn’t work, besides I gave it to my son.

    • willbest

      It just amuses me that the one thing Trump has always been exceptional at is media manipulation, and yet some people seem to be operating under the assumption that he threw that skill away when he became president, or now that the media is “serious” about stopping him they will be able to get the better of him. As if they haven’t been giving it their all since Trump locked up the GOP nomination.

      Case in point. I had no idea two Iraqi refugees from Bowling Green were convicted of trying to send weapons to Iraq with the intent of attacking US troops until the press tried to catch Conway in a lie. Sort of makes sense to ban refugees from that country until you can be sure they won’t do that sort of thing.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Just ribbin both of you. It’s actually fun sitting back and reading both of your discussions.

  • willbest

    In more important news, I think Christie Brinkley needs to reveal the name of her plastic surgeon, and he needs to get to work training as many people in his craft as possible. This skill is far to important not to share with the world.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-4201004/Christie-Brinkley-s-daughters-talk-positive-body-image.html

    • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

      Alexa’s got those Billy Joel genes dug in deep, though, doesn’t she?

      • willbest

        yeah. Neither one of them can hold a candle to their mom in her prime though. I imagine as a boy that would be like being the son of Micheal Jordan or Bill Gates

      • beninnorcal

        I was thinking the same thing. She had his face, unfortunately.

  • BerwynBomber
    • One Dump from Retirement (GP)

      it’s strange how no clinic wants to claim credit for that crab trap sitting on Skip Bayless’ head.

      You could start a coral reef with that fucking thing.

    • willbest

      There is more than 1 billboard on I-90 with his new rug with slogans like “tackle your hair problem” or something.

  • willbest

    Its really not even fair pitting Trump against these people. Maxine Walter’s reaction is probably my favorite part.

    http://freebeacon.com/politics/nancy-pelosi-says-she-cant-work-with-president-bush/

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Life is not fair get over it.

    • SC Dave

      Pelosi is a true moron. I mean, nut the classic definition.

      • leftcoastdave

        Pelosi was referring to Hillary. She just forgot who won.

  • willbest

    Fake News: Super Bowl edition

    http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/some-boston-globe-subscribers-woke-up-in-nightmare-world.html

    Its not just t-shirts in africa anymore.

  • Just ran some numbers and I am officially aboard the “trade for Jimmy G” bandwagon.

  • Captain Obvious

    I think Jeff is going to have a Twitter aneurysm

    • BearDown100393

      Bigly aneurysm.

  • Big Mike

    Reflecting on the SB party I was at which had die-hard fans from dozens if not more teams. Being a Bears fan right now is like sitting at the kids table. Sitting there with the Browns and Jaguar fans watching on the small TV.

    • Sad, but true.

      I was watching with diehard Pats and Broncos fan, SB winners back to back.

      They almost patted me on the head.

      • Big Mike

        That’s funny. “There, there little Bears fan, don’t you worry your pretty little head over the big boy games”.

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  • QBing is an art, and finding a true one just as much.

    And if QBing is an art, Cargo is the John Travolta of QBs.

    Capable of making memorable movies like Saturday Night Fever, Urban Cowboy, Grease, Pulp Fiction…but also capable of making career enders like BattleField Earth, Phenomenon, White Man’s Burden…

    We need to find the Tom Cruise of QBs. Maybe not a Brando, Christian Bale or Daniel Day Lewis, but someone who produces consistently with a bad ass performance here and there.

    #Arnold2018

    • BearDown100393

      Tom Hardy

    • BerwynBomber

      Cruise as good as Travolta? Nah. Not even close.

      • Cruise may not be as good as Travolta but he is nowhere near as awful either.

        Worst Cruise movie is perhaps Vanilly Sky. Maybe Eyes Wide Shut. But other than those, almost all his other movies were entertaining.

        Travolta on the other hand…(what is Travolta’s worst – Battlefield Earth?)

        https://www.google.com/search?q=Travolta+&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=travolta+filmography

        • BerwynBomber

          Travolta was awesome in Blow Out and Get Shorty. The former is one of the lesser known DePalma flicks and definitely worth checking out.

          I never went in for Cruise after Risky Biz and All the Right Moves. His Cruise-ness wore thin rapidly for moi.

          • That Guy

            Get Short/Shorty are both great movies. One of my favorite examples of an actor really surprising everyone is The Rock as the flaming bodyguard. Hillarious

          • CanadaBear

            I swear we’re twin brothers from other mothers, recently. I just can’t buy someone that size being superbad. I don’t care how many martial arts you know, it the other guy is a brawler and 6’5″/275 or so, it’s not going to end well for the little guy. Not to mention he’s just such a douche. It’s not like I’m hot for Brooke Shields but when went off on her personal issues, it really showed who he is. Not a good look.

        • CanadaBear

          Cocktail and Color of Money are hideous. I was so afraid it would make me dislike the original because it sucked but it was so bad I just wished Paul Newman would have passed on it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Cruise can act. John is …… different.

        • willbest

          But Kelly Preston back in the day was way hotter than Nicole Kidman.

          • CanadaBear

            No offense to Nicole Kidman because before surgery she was beautiful but I’ve seen both of them naked in movies and my hat’s off to KP.

          • CanadaBear

            Not to mention that my favorite quote from any of his ex’s was from Mimi Rogers. She was quoted as saying “he wasn’t enough of a man for me”. Ouch.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “Mischief” – nice rack.

        • BerwynBomber

          Cruise can act? News to me. Don’t tell me that over-emoting he does you consider good acting.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Cruise…interesting. Maybe we should contact the heads at Scientology to help us find the next great QB.

    • willbest

      Daniel Day Lewis would never survive in pro football. That guy takes 5 years off between Oscar wins.

    • willbest

      Point of Order. How do you have more than 1 career ending movie?

      • Like Cargo and Herpes, Travolta keeps coming back…

        • CanadaBear

          I like the fact that all of his best roles include a dance scene and seemingly people were all polite enough not to suspect him of playing for the other team.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Good analogy – John Travolta. Cutty can be Vincent Vega …. or Battlefield Earth.

      I liked Phenomenon!

      • SC Dave

        So did I.

  • BearDown100393

    Josh McCown has escaped Cleveland.

    • BerwynBomber

      Tramon Williams also released …

    • willbest

      Bring back Joshy Football!

    • There you go Irish.

      You wanted McCown over Cargo once upon a time.

      Ironically, I think I could live with that argument more now than before.

  • BerwynBomber

    Cheese release Starks.

  • Artoo

    If you look at how many times we have traded with the Patriots, it doesn’t surprise me if Jimmy is already a Bear.

    Unless the Browns decide to overpay, I don’t see another team that could beat the Bears.

    I still don’t see the love for Jimmy. Reminds me of Cassel and at least we had tape on Cassel.

    Is there a qb in FA or draft worth the first round pick? No. Not even close. I would rather Pace draft at another position and plan for another year with Cutler.

    Jimmy could prove me wrong but a trade with the Patriots feels more beneficial for them than for us.

    • BerwynBomber

      Reports today that SF’s top priority is either Jimmy G or Cousins. If neither of those pan out, they’re prepared to pursue Cutler.

      • willbest

        SF has more juice than we do. And I like Cousins just because he has proven he can be Flacco or Ryan. Still waiting to see him elevate his play during the big moments, but he doesn’t lose them games.

        • Artoo

          You think Captain Kirk will leave Washington? I doubt it but I’ll take him.

          • willbest

            No. They will tag him for 22.5 million. People think I am nuts, but Philip Rivers just signed a deal for 21 million a year, and over the last 2 years Cousins has been better. We are going to watch him get 20+ million a year with 50 million guaranteed.

          • Artoo

            You are not nuts. Everyone harps on the Cutler deal but at the time, that was a great deal. If Cutler hit FA, he would have made way more.

            Same for Cousins. The redskins have no choice but to pay him or lose him. Those tags are going to start to hurt.

          • BerwynBomber

            Nah, not so about Cutty. Bears made him the highest paid QB in the league at the time. That was fucking nuts.

            Trading for him? Good idea. Re-upping him with that contract? Mindless. We already seen four years of him in a Bears uni for chrissakes.

            Emery’s second worst decision behind hiring Trestman.

        • BerwynBomber

          Cousins would scare me if he is paid top-end money. His #s are there, but WAS crapped the bed at the end of the season, losing four of six and suffering two final home losses to CAR and NYG.

          And last year he looked overmatched in the WC against a sketchy GB team, a game which was also at DC.

          I mostly ascribe to efficiency/performance #s — or some combination of traditional passer rating and QBR — but there can be exceptions, both in terms of good numbers and bad numbers. My worry is that Cousins is a little bit like Bradford — his numbers are decent but he is empty calories.

          Put it another way, if you gave me the choice between Stafford, Cousins and Bradford, I’d take Stafford in a heart beat, and I’d bet Cousins’ numbers, if not Bradford’s, are better than Stafford’s.

          Anyway, just a little dubious. But if the Bears, or whomever, go out and get him I can understand the rationale.

      • Artoo

        It’s really early right now. I have a funny feeling everyone’s hands are in the cookie jar.

        • willbest

          You should always be looking for value if you can find it.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Hope San Fran takes the kid and saves us from ourselves.

        • I’m a bit torn.

          SF can also draft Turbisky and drop a real player to us in the draft

          • willbest

            Not if we are giving up #3. If we are giving up 2 2nds, then yeah.

      • Artoo

        This was 19 hours ago. Now, people are talking about Cutler being the number one priority for the Jets and 49ers.

        It’s going to be super cloudy the next few weeks.

    • willbest

      It feels like a bit of desperation. And as far as Pace is concerned there doesn’t need to be. His job is safe for at least 2 more years. The QB market looks like crap right now.

      • BerwynBomber

        Draft or FA QB market? If you’re talking the latter, this is about as good as it gets. If you’re talking the former, agreed (from what we can tell right now).

        • willbest

          Well expect the year Peyton Manning and Drew Brees were up for grabs the FA QB market is always like this. Aged vets with question marks and injury history and back up castoffs and QB’s with a good game or two that people think might be starters.

          • BerwynBomber

            I should have specified FA and trade market.

            But this year is better than most. Potentially, having guys like Cousins, Jimmy G, Romo and Cutler available counts as a good year. Not to mention Taylor.

      • Artoo

        Exactly. Keep building everything and hopefully, we can just find a decent quarterback like Dak to plug in.

        • MB30SD

          disss

      • MB30SD

        dis

    • Huge Bears Penis

      I think people forget Cassel made the ProBowl his 2nd year with Chiefs going 10-5, 3000+yards, 27 TDs, 5 ints. Granted he sucked balls in the playoffs. His 3rd year was cut short because of an injury to his throwing hand, which I think but not sure lingered for the rest of his career.

      • Artoo

        Most people remember that, it’s just the rest of his career after that was mediocre. Somewhere on some blog people are talking about Cutler in the same aspect.

        Cutler didn’t make it to a pro-bowl with the Bears but he certainly wasn’t the biggest reason that didn’t happen.

    • leftcoastdave

      Amen.

  • MB30SD

    3.5 full days down so far:

    * 6 teenage lion cubs and their 2 moms
    * 1 big male lion
    * 1 Leopard
    * 20 Hyena on a giraffe kill
    * 3 Cheetah brothers
    * 1 Young Gennet
    * 200ish elephant… sat 20 meters from 3 juveniles swimming and playing for 30 minutes this morning as the rest of their 15 family members walked by
    * 2 chameleons – 1 baby
    * Hundreds of all the other usual shit that I don’t pay attention to anymore (zebra, impala, wildebeest, giraffe, eland, kudu, etc…)
    * 1 Big ass python
    * 1 leopard tortise
    * toooons of great birds

    I HIGHLY recommend Botswana if you want the african safari experience. This country is so beautiful I can’t describe. When I get back I’ll shoot a couple choice pics over to youz that I have #s for (shady, murph, GP, rabbit, Erik). Love it here, you should all make a plan to come visit.

    • Big Mike

      I spend 3 months in Southern Africa. Went around the coast of South Africa from Cape to Durban over to Johannesburg by way of Lesotho. Those stops were all work related, but I had a weekend Safari in Botswana. I also spent a weekend in a place called Sun City, which was the most decadent place I have ever been. Might have felt that way after roughing it, but it was palatial and and the women were gorgeous.

      • MB30SD

        sun city is funny.

  • Alex

    Thank you for this write up. Appreciate the work put in.

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