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Finding A Quarterback: AJ McCarron, A Backup’s Backup

| February 15th, 2017

The common thought of people covering the NFL is that the Cincinnati Bengals should try to find an upgrade over quarterback Andy Dalton. A common thought among many Bears fans is the team should bring in Dalton’s backup to be their new starter.

It is every bit as illogical as it sounds.

Every time someone suggests the Bears trade for Jimmy Garoppolo, someone chimes in that they should spend less and bring in AJ McCarron instead. McCarron is a fine player but his current job is where he belongs. There is no shame in backing up Tom Brady like Garoppolo has had to do, but if McCarron were capable of being a top tier starting quarterback, he wouldn’t be watching Dalton take all the snaps.

McCarron did some nice things when he got to play at the end of 2015. He made several good throws down the field and consistently showed good touch on deep passes. He’s an NFL quarterback but not all guys are meant to be starters.

The Alabama product’s stats are fine. He completed 66.4 percent of his passes for six touchdowns, two interceptions and a passer rating of 97.1. If you took his averages from the four starts — including the playoffs — and averaged them out over 16 games, it would come out to roughly 3,500 yards with 24 touchdowns and 8 interceptions. Not bad, but he was playing in a stacked offense. Dalton managed a passer rating of 106.2.

When I watched McCarron, the performance didn’t match the statistics. I had him with an inaccuracy rate of 33.4 percent in his four starts. While he only threw two interceptions, he had a number of other passes that should have been picked off. It was Josh McCownesque.

McCarron was really quick to hit the check down. He’d look deep, but only threw it if the receiver was wide open. According to ESPN, about 60 percent of his passes traveled less than 10 yards beyond the line of scrimmage, 16.8 percent were at or behind the line.

He also didn’t seem to sense pressure well. When teams brought heat, he reacted late and took a bunch of sacks that should’ve been avoided. He was sacked on more than 9% of his drop backs, while Dalton was taken down on less than 5%.

My biggest takeaway? It just didn’t seem like Hue Jackson, then Bengals OC, trusted him. Every play call seemed as if it was designed to keep the ball out of his hands. They’d go run-run-pass every chance they got and McCarron was just an adequate game manager.

And if McCarron were a star waiting to happen, wouldn’t his former offensive coordinator be clamoring to bring him to Cleveland right now?

The conversation about McCarron almost always starts after a conversation about Garoppolo, but they aren’t comparable prospects. Garoppolo was a second round pick and would’ve been a first round pick if he played at a bigger college. McCarron came from Alabama where he was always in the spotlight and still dropped to the fourth round in the same draft.

McCarron has ability, but I have never seen any indication that he can succeed without being surrounded by superior talent. He can do good things; the kind of things that make him a perfect backup quarterback.

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  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Just curious Andy, how many teams have traded for another teams QB that became established starters in the NFL?

    • DaBearsBlog

      Favre and Hasselbeck are first two that come to mind.

      • MB30SD

        uhhhggg, penis head

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          Dilfer and him should be in gay men apparel catalogs.

          NTTAWWT.

          • MB30SD

            great idea!

            NTTAWWT

          • MB30SD

            what’s up with the avatar btw, looks like a young samuel clemens

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            It’s Rowsdower. The Canadian Magnum PI

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJd3g6LGSFc

          • MB30SD

            ahhhhh, MST3K

          • CanadaBear

            A fave!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Back in the ’90s, the Jags got Mark Brunnell from the Packers for a couple of draft choices.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          not sure if it was trade Jake Delhomme was the Saints backup became Panthers starter.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Steve Young was traded from Bucs to 49ers for 2nd and a 4th

    • Irish Sweetness

      Steve Young for sure.

  • MB30SD
  • Irish Sweetness

    People should be very careful judging McCarron on Stats alone. The two QBs who were best under pressure – at one point – were Carr and Dalton (around 105). McCarron had help. How would Dak have fared behind some of Cutler’s O-lines and receivers?

    • MB30SD

      he’s a very high quality team/locker room guy.

      His main problem is he’s a fucking pussy and has a noodle for an arm.

      Yeah yeah, I know HBP, we already have one of those on the roster. zing. bazinga. etc… (rolls eyes)

  • BearDown100393

    I have not read one suggestion regarding the quarterback position that is a clear cut better option short or long term than Jay Cutler. Change for the sake of change is not going to bring home a Super Bowl let alone a playoff appearance. If the talent is simply not to be found either in the draft (it isn’t this year) or free agency (again not), move to another position requiring upgrade and depth.

    • Big Mike

      Oh no… the torches are going to be lit..

      • MB30SD

        are lit mike… ARE… lit.

        • Big Mike

          Refueled. The mob will be angry. BD100293 lit the fuse. BTW, he might not be wrong. But we don’t know. If Pace gets everything right and nails a draft like he did last year and rounds it out with a couple of productive FAs and we end up with a FS, CB, OT, TE, DL and edge rusher that live up to their billing, but bring Cutler back and he splits the difference between last year and the year before it’s a pretty damn good year.

          Now before you say that’s a lot of ifs, The whole offseason speculating and posting is nothing but ifs. 🙂

          • MB30SD

            I’m down, just without culter. He done, with us. It’s enough. Just begone. We can’t truly reset anything with the main ghost of emery/trestman past still haunting the sidelines. Bad juju. Just fucking cut the cord and let’s motor with anything that the 2017 season brings, it can’t possibly by any worse than 2016. I mean, I wore a fucking tutu to a bar because we couldn’t beat out a team that took a 1 in 14 million chance and pissed in it’s face laughing.

            1. in. 14. million. mike.

            So I proffer, this…

            1. Cut cutler (I don’t care if we can’t even get a coke for him, try, but whatevs. Addition by subtraction maings)

            2. @ #3 Draft: Adams, Hooker, or Thomas (in that order for me)

            3. In rd 2, take the best available guy at the position you DIDN’T take @ #3 or the best CB

            4. Rd 3, take the BPA, and if that guy is a CB, QB, OT, or TE great!

            5. Pick up Berry AND Hill in FA, along with as many high value guys as you can to fill all remaining gaps (OL, TE, WR, CB, DB)

            6. Roll with the winner of the shitweasel sweepstakes (HOYER, barkley, Shaw)… but we all know it will be the DESTROYER… don’t we HBP? DON’T FUCKING WE?!!?!?

            Yes, yes we do.

            7. IFF we can get Jimmy G for a second and some other flotsam, sure, probably worth a flyer… but you know we’ll find out his injury was career ending or bellilucifer will somehow end up totally fucking us on the deal.

            8. If we don’t take a shot at jg, maybe see if we can get a good deal on Tyrod.

            So, net-net, stock the D larder, plug some gaps (that’s what she said), and roll with Shitweasel 1, 2, and 3.

            Next year, sell the fucking farm to get the guy Pace is 10000% SURERER is our franchise for the next 10. Whatever it takes.

            That’s my plan.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Hoyer will be the Destroyer of any productive season. 5 wins.

          • MB30SD

            Till the end of Q1!!!

            That’s right, 5 wins in 4 games baby!!!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Something has made you a little crazy, when was the last time you were tested for Syphilis.

          • MB30SD

            this last week actually. hahahaha (seriously, I was)

            I’m negative on everything.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            good to hear, unfortunately that does not explain the insanity of wanting Hoyer.

          • Big Mike

            It’s as good a plan is out there. Mostly I like the approach of fix everything else first. Let the QB thing sort itself out. In reality Pace has to figure out QB options first, so he has to go down every rabbit hole to see if one presents more value in his scenarios. He knows he has to fix QB. He hoes the Bears have more currency this year, because if they are drafting 1,2 or 3 again next year he’s run out of mulligans and has to fix shit right away. In my opinion Garapolo or the NC guy fit the bill the best from his view. But who knows.

            The other things that need to get fixed, are eminently more fixable. If your plan works out this is an 8 to 11 win team. We’d all be happy in that range.

          • MB30SD

            bingo!

    • Malice Halice

      This is a balls-less approach but I understand.

      • MB30SD

        jay cutler can suck my balls(less)

    • BerwynBomber

      Money, for one thing.

      Plus, you also haven’t read one suggestion that is a worse option than Cutler at QB. (Unless someone proposed Barkley should be our ’17 starter.)

      • Huge Bears Penis

        MB wants Hoyer as a starter. That would be a worse option than Cutler

        • MB30SD

          Uuuum… did you miss the “0” part in 300/2/0?!?!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            fluke. will revert to 136/0/4/2

          • MB30SD

            give a fucking brother a chance yo.

            4 X 300/2/0 in a bears uni without a single fucking wr who could catch that ball, or a D that could keep him off the field for more than a couple series at a time.

            That should at the VERY least buy the guy a shot at the spot in camp.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            revisionist history. He had Royal, Miller, Jeffery, Meredith, and White for almost all his games played. Injuries and suspensions did not hit the WRs until after Hoyer went down. Also besides the Dallas game I am pretty sure the Bears lead in Time of Possession, so D was doing a decent job. Not great by any means but enough for a decent QB to win the game.

        • BerwynBomber

          It’s debatable at this point in their respective careers.

          Mind, I think there is a good chance (if Cutty is gone) that whoever is our starter next year isn’t as good as Cutty. But a) the difference might not be huge, b) unless it’s Jimmy G the guy should be much less pricey (i.e., more money to invest elsewhere) and c) there is also the chance that whoever starts might be as good or even better than Cutty.

          Cutler was pretty crappy two of his last three years.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Hoyer has been crappy his entire career, with the exceptions of a few fluke games.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’m not a fan of either guy — Cutler or Hoyer. Personally, I’d prefer an outside bridge brought in and then draft a kid — this year or next year or both.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Hoyer, Taylor, Glennon, Barkley … any QB drafted .. .would all be worse than Cutty IMO. Cutty ain’t bad. I don’t know Jimmy G

  • Big Mike

    I don’t know if I can keep playing this game for 2.5 months to get to the draft, then 5 more months to get to games. After the first regular season game in September, everything that is written on this blog, other blogs, all the comments are basically irrelevant. :/

    Hope all the regulars are doing well. Last weekend was the low point of all sports weekends. I think bowling was the TV highlight.

    • BerwynBomber

      I always find NBA All-Star weekend to be he nadir of sports weekends of any given year. And I’m an NBA fan. But like all all-star games it is silly and redundant. Plus, it puts the season on hold for nearly a week.

      It’s about the only time I will seek out national hockey during the NHL’s regular season.

      • Big Mike

        I lean towards the NHL over the NBA. The Forman and Paxson are the worst two leaders of an NBA franchise. They are sickening. Also not a big fan of the current NBA style of play. I loved the Spurs. The whole three point shooting game doesn’t interest me.

  • MB30SD
    • Bender McLugh

      lol

      • MB30SD

        cats… amiright?!

  • MB30SD
  • Bender McLugh

    Jeff is laying it on thick in twitter….LOVE IT!

    (my Drumpf impression)

    • MB30SD

      every time I see that human POS up there, I am literally still shocked that he’s the president of the usa, and that the american people are THAT dumb. My god man… the apocalypse is nigh!!!

      Does ANY other world leader fucking tweet out petty insults to private companies or specific media outlets?! We are officially already a fucking joke. smfh

      Just: https://imgflip.com/s/meme/Captain-Picard-Facepalm.jpg or even https://i.stack.imgur.com/jiFfM.jpg

      • BearDown100393

        Human?

        • MB30SD

          mega oompa loompa?

      • Bender McLugh

        ARE YOU NOT ENTERTAINED?!??!??

        • Bender McLugh

          that was me apropriating yet another blog phrase

        • MB30SD

          no. not one fucking bit. it’s disgusting and we are looking like more and more of a joke.

          I’m fine letting him try to do his best, but continuing to tweet insults to individuals and companies. It’s as absurd as he is, it’s a fucking joke and it’s horrible man. How can ANYONE take us seriously as a country??!? just smfh.

          • look snowflake, will says everything is fine and we’re on the right path. please take your naysaying to a sanctuary city.

          • MB30SD

            sorry. will. do… doo

          • willbest

            Has he ever attacked an individual or a company that was minding its own business? Not even the fucking mafia goes after other people’s children. What the fuck is wrong with progs?

            New Rules for a New World.

            And your bias is showing. By all accounts his state visits with leaders goes rather well. And you would expect nothing less. The people with the greatest bullshit detectors aren’t politicians, they are Investment Bankers with access to hundreds of millions of dollars, and yet he gets those guys to open up their wallets. Regular pols don’t stand a chance.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha…. minding their own business

          • SC Dave

            Is it worse than an apology tour?

          • MB30SD

            whos?

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        It’s a power struggle between him and his handlers and the vatican.

        • MB30SD

          It doesn’t even go any further than his behavior for me… it’s disgusting, he’s a fucking crude, shallow, insecure, boorish dolt of a disgusting POS.

          I’ll let you know how I actually feel later.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            That’s on purpose imo.

          • MB30SD

            now man, it’s just who he is. It’s who he’s always been.

            Once your the POTUS, you think he’d fucking knock that absurd shit off. it’s just really terrible, the man is a fucking mental midget. gross.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I hear you but I think it’s way more than that. It is what it is.

          • willbest

            You just need to take a deep breath and realize, that if you had elected your gal Hillary, $500 billion of US taxpayer money would be on its way to her globalist crony friends right now, and we would be full steam ahead on starting WW3 with Russia using Syria as a pretext.

            Then again, it doesn’t look like Trump is going to manage to hold of the establishment that wants their WW3 as they are systematically getting rid of the parts of his team that appear to be against WW3.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            This – unfortunately – you are correct in.

            http://foreignpolicy.com/2017/02/13/the-kremlin-is-starting-to-worry-about-trump/

            The Russians now think they may have created a monster they can’t control, they see Trump like they saw Yeltsin – and now they think if he does get impeached it will unleash a furious backlash against them.

          • willbest

            None of Trump’s supporters wants war with Russia. I know neo-cons are stark raving mad right now (see Bill Kristol), but when did the progs become so fucking bloodthristy? Aren’t they supposed to be the party of code pink?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Hillary let slip the dogs of war.

            Who – in an odd bit of irony – turned out to be French Rafale pilots.

            On an unrelated note, I have a hard-on for the Rafale. It looks like the badass cousin of both the F-16 and F-15.

            http://nationalinterest.org/files/styles/main_image_on_posts/public/main_images/rafale_-_riat_2013_9435456345.jpg?itok=RfX2wgKB

          • willbest

            That indeed does look fierce.

          • MB30SD

            she’s not my gal at all… but at least she’s a real human being with fucking knowledge of the system and she’s not going to tweet that some dbag reporter or chick she runs into in a store is a piece of fat garbage who he’s going to sue for telling her her tie is ugly.

            Guy’s a full fucking retard (sorry to all the mentally handicapped out there)

          • willbest

            You are seemingly factually challenged. The woman fucked up Libya and started off the refugee crisis. Typically, when you fuck up that badly you get axed not promoted.

            And she clearly didn’t have command of the electoral system. She managed to lose to a buffoon despite spending twice as much money, massive assistance from every popular celebrity, and the two greatest campaigners of the last 30 years.

            And no I suppose she never called any one person out. She just called a bunch of economically struggling white folks in the midwest deplorables and got a “well fuck you too” in response. And that isn’t even including her utter failure to beat some nobody in 2008.

            There is no objective analysis of Hillary that doesn’t end with the conclusion that she is incompetent propelled to where she was by her husbands name and political machine.

  • Malice Halice

    Jimmy played under a great coaching staff, great players around him. Bears can only offer decent players and a shitty coaching staff. He will be the new brock if he comes here.

    • Bender McLugh

      shitty coaching staff? Surely you jest

    • Brock Forsey?

      SIGN ME UP.

  • MB30SD

    From jeff’s twat: “Weirdest thing about Alshon Jeffery. I don’t know how good he actually is. Can he take over game? Can he dominate? When’s last time he did?”

    1. No
    2. No
    3. Never

    That about does it. Don’t want a VERY fair deal for what you’ve shown ON THE FIELD?

    Then let’s…. NEXT!!!

    • Bender McLugh

      nah man, Alshon is good he’s just not great. He can definitely take over drives but not entire games. Of course he has to STAY HEALTHY. SO, replace him & also grab another WR. Kenny Stills is up on my hope chest

      • MB30SD

        exactly. I concur wholeheartedly.

        We offered him a very fair deal last year and he turned it down. Ok, buh bye.

        • leftcoastdave

          I respectfully disagree. I think he could have been, and might still become great. What I see as the problem is “there ain’t no ‘I’ in team.” Last year he chose to screw the pooch. Then he talked all “super bowl” crap.
          Looks to me like he’s fat and happy and there’s no telling what will be in his head next year or the year thereafter.

          • MB30SD

            ok, so how’s he going to be great WITH US?!

            You basically ARE agreeing with me yos. He might be good, but once he get’s paid by some other team… well, for a year maybe until he starts to loaf/get injured again.

          • leftcoastdave

            Agreeing he should be allowed to fleece some other team and possibly become another “what if”. He could be great, or he could choose to just cash his check. Either way, he dissed the team last year so I say “o rubber ducky”. (I think that’s Italian)

          • MB30SD

            ok, so yeah, we’re on the same page.

          • SC Dave

            A new QB, perhaps?

          • MB30SD

            sure, where we gettin’ onea thems?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I disrepectfully disagree. Whole heartedly.

          • MB30SD

            You’re just upset I have biltong at my beck AND call

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You don’t have a heart. Shameless.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Phew, for a minute there, I thought you were up to your neck in it.. haha

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      His rook season is as good as it gets with him imo.

      • MB30SD

        100%

        fat hurt and lazy is no way to go through the nfl son

    • didn’t he have a couple of 200-yard-game with McNown?

      i can look it up, but my fingers are broken.

      • MB30SD

        I thought it was your groin?

        • it’s everything. the mid-upper-30s is a hell of an awakening.

          • MB30SD

            naw, the 40s are the new 20s

          • then this must just be a “dead arm” period for me

          • Bender McLugh

            dead balls

          • MB30SD

            long balls

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            two dropped balls

          • CanadaBear

            Are you ever in for a surprise in a couple of decades!!!!!!!!!!!

    • BearDown100393

      Is the game plan to tank, go winless and garner the 1st overall pick for a QB?

      • MB30SD

        nah, but in the modern NFL you have little hope of going to the playoffs (never mind the SB) without a legit franchise. That we ain’t gonna get this year nos matter what… unless pacebot pulls a jerrah and yanks a Dak out his ass on draft day.

        So why fucking kick fight and scratch for an 8-8 season that we’d already have with this roster?

        • BearDown100393

          Fair enough. Are you prepared to watch 16 games of below par football?

          • MB30SD

            Not sure I’m prepared to watch 16 games period. It’s getting more and more shitty… In general

      • MB30SD

        No, SB then HOF!!!

    • willbest

      No WR can take a game over. Even in the best of times they don’t get the ball more than 20% of the time.

      Past that you are just being a monkey because you know damn well that Jeffery’s two 200+ yard games are #1 and #2 Bears all time records. But beyond those he actually has 3 more games where he just dominated, including 2 in 2015. His 2016 was quite, but then look what we had go on at QB.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        so Julio Jones catching 300 yards in a game this year was not a take over. Or Steve Smith’s playoff game against the Beloved years ago.

        • willbest

          No more than Jeffery’s 240 yard game. The ball has to go his way. Its up to the QB to make the decision.

          • but in smith’s case, the qb gets him the ball 10 yards down the field, and he takes it the remaining 60. that’s kind of taking over, no?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            not according to will. Its the QB that has to make the decision. If I was a QB, that would be the hardest decision to ever make.
            hmmm what should I do?
            A. throw it to an all time great WR.
            B. throw it to a lesser known WR.
            C. throw it to the other team.
            D. take sack.

            hmmm, I think I choose A.

          • MB30SD

            BTW, bonus question… guess who chooses C more than not?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Brett Favre, he is the career leader in interceptions thrown.

          • willbest

            And the quick hook given to QB’s these days, and the sheer length of his career, that record will likely never be broken.

          • MB30SD

            WRONG!!

            Jay Christopher Cutler for the win!

          • Irish Sweetness

            E. The guy who’s open.

          • MB30SD

            BINGO!

        • MB30SD

          or fucking julian eddlman almost erra game.

          Bullshit will (I’ve been saying that a lot to you lately), there are 100% wr who do that. Alshon just ain’t one of em

    • SC Dave

      You’re wrong.

      • MB30SD

        ? cutler?

        They’re both mediocre at best. let’s move on from both of them. constantly looking in your rear view mirror gets you what dave?

        In a fucking head-on crash.

      • MB30SD

        pretty sure I’m not wrong at all my maings… I just look at things called ‘history’ and ‘actual happenings’ and ‘facts’.

        He is great for catches, a decent #1, and over a career… incomplete.

        Know in school when you didn’t complete all your courses dave… incomplete. loooot of potential, but alas…. incomplete.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d call him a #2. A go up and get it guy. He’s the guy you put opposite Brandon. Ahem.

          • MB30SD

            Correct

  • BerwynBomber

    Fair criticism of McCarron. But remember he would be an inexpensive, short-term bridge guy (well, except for that pesky draft pick he could cost). And almost all such guys are going to be back-ups. In fact, we have one on our team right now. His name is Brian Hoyer.

    In other words, if you get a McCarron, a Glennon, a Foles, etc., you would be coupling him with a first or second round rookie. Plan A, therefore, is the development of said rookie to be the long-term starter. McCarron (or Glennon, Foles, Hoyer, etc) are merely holding down the fort for a season. If they turn into something more, cool beans. But frankly that’s not the realistic expectation/long-term plan when you get them.

    Garappolo is a different proposition. With JimmyG you are going all-in. He is the future. He is Plan A.

    • MB30SD

      spot on.

      So if we have a hoyer the destroyer already on this team to lead us to the promiseland of 8-8 next year, why bother with bringing in carbon copies. Let’s just roll with the noodle-three we already have and fix errathing else.

      • BerwynBomber

        Because of the 5% chance that one of the outside guys turns into Kirk Cousins.

        But I could see Hoyer being our starter in ’17. Hell, at this point, I wouldn’t be shocked if Cutler is our starter in ’17. Who knows what Pace will do.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          they want to dump Cutty. And they will.

          Here’s the probabilities:

          40% of a big draft splash, Kizer or Watson
          40% we trade for Jimmy G, due to the Eastern connection
          10% we go to a lesser Qb like mcCarron
          10% we stand pat and grab somebody shit from the wire to come in and push Hoyer and Barkley.

          • MB30SD

            hope not

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Always leave 5% for error GP. Mmmkay?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            5% chance that Trac comes to Illinois to run an Italian Beef cart outside the stadium.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Dream job. Absolutely!

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        Jesss!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • Huge Bears Penis

        5 wins tops.

        • MB30SD

          In the first 5 games baby!!!!

      • willbest

        We don’t have Hoyer on the team. He is a FA. And Pace has had 2 months to sign him if he wanted to. Time to let the dream die.

        • MB30SD

          We will

          • Irish Sweetness

            That would now be a sackable offence.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    I think McCarron has more talent than Jeff lets on, and could be on par with Bradford.

    • Bender McLugh

      that’s still not good

      • well. we can sign him then trade him for a 1st round pick?

        • Bender McLugh

          why you gotta pick on the Browns like that?

          • when you’re the 31st best team in the league, you’ve only got the 32nd to step on.

          • willbest

            We are the 30th. We can step on the 9ers too.

          • MB30SD

            god we suck.

    • willbest

      I think he is better than G.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    I am beginning to think I may see the POTUS be hung for treason in my lifetime. It’s like that Ann Coulter book, but in reverse.

    • MB30SD

      it’s seriously shocking. At this pace he’ll be fucking assassinated by friday… by his own guys!

      • leftcoastdave

        The lifers in the establishment government shooting across his bow.

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          Or… a career con man conspiring with the Russian oligarchs that his empire is in debt to, using a foreign intelligence service to subvert an election. There is that possibility too.

          • willbest

            The fever dream is strong in you.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Lol. He’s a Sithe Lord?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            except that’s what happened.

          • willbest

            The Intelligence community has reported finding no evidence of that despite investigating it. At least according to the NYT.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            And if Flynn is charged based on the recording they have? And, if facing the federal pound him in the ass prison, he decides to roll?

          • willbest

            heh. Flynn will be going to the same jail that Hillary, Huma, Petraeus, and Mills went to. And I know you know this, even if he were guilty. The House is investigating the leakers not him. Somebody on one of those oversights committees said something like “There isn’t anything there”, though I obviously wouldn’t expect the truth from them either.

            See you want it to be so badly you can taste it. And the GOP has every interest in the world of hiding whatever it was. When it comes to our government, I need the DNC and Hillary e-mail hacks level of transparency before I believe it. The evidence was there for everybody to see, and nobody ever denied their validity.

          • willbest

            “Just curious. Because that is coming.”

            When is it coming? How much time passes before you admit you are full of it?

            Somehow Trump moves between incompetent buffoon and criminal mastermind in your reality. Maybe he is Columbo

          • SC Dave

            This is the irrationality of the progs that is so mystifying.

            It’s so weird.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            It’s the irrationality of these white middle class idiots that is so mystifying.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh, please. Your side frothed at the mouth over a year about a freaking email server.

            Now your moron is POTUS and an absolute fucking train wreck and you are whining about his treatment?

          • MB30SD

            dave doesn’t like trump, he just hates hillary.

            It’s rooting for detriot when they play the packers. Right dave? RIGHT??!!

          • BerwynBomber

            Nah, SCD’s a hardcore righty. All he does is bitch about liberals or progs. Pretty much gives the game away.

            And Trump makes Hillary look like Churchill.

          • willbest

            I think BB forgets all the Obama nominations that wiped out in 2009 for a range of things such as not paying taxes, to hiring illegal nannies. I believe it was Leno that had the joke that went something like “At the rate the nomination process is going we are going to close the budget deficient before Obama gets his cabinet filled”

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Columbo was one smart bastard.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            He caught Johnny Cash. And his German was excellent.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pey0uhBw-F8

          • MB30SD

            It’s so good in Gerhmahn.

            Bitter? SCHNELL SCHNELL!!

            Suck a beautiful language

          • MB30SD

            oh no, he’s a buffoon alright. Maybe not incompetent, but 100% a buffoon.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            How much time passes before you admit you are full of it?

            Can I have until the summer? These investigations drag until somebody pulls a tape from Snowden’s old chums.

          • SC Dave

            Who cares? The real story is the CONTENT of the emails.

            And all the deflections will not make us forget.

    • BearDown100393

      This is America.
      It will re-elect him.

      • MB30SD

        that would be insanity

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s working perfectly, the sheep are watching the dog and pony show … while the power elite continue to milk them.

    • willbest

      Why would you read one of Ann Coulter’s books?

      • MB30SD

        Why would anyfuckingone?!?!

        • willbest

          You enjoy 250 pages of snark?

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            Coulter said Obama should be hung for treason.

            It would be ironic if, in fact, her golden boy Trump was actually hung for treason.

          • willbest

            I thought she disavowed him over something recently. Anyway, you don’t really attribute some sort of morality to these hacks do you? Krugman who hated budget deficits from 2000-2008 and said let the money rain from 2009-2016, is back on hating deficits.

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            If Krugman is stating publically that he now hates deficits, he is the ultimate tool.

            Ultimate tool.

            He insisted that TARP wasn’t big ENOUGH and damn the deficit, Obama needed to spend us into prosperity. Forget the window and ZIRP made The Goldman Sachs wildly rich – oh forget it. Jesus.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Sounds very uncivilized old chap.

          • MB30SD

            mmmmm, yeees. Quite.

          • MB30SD

            snark, dude. doooood

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    http://www.scout.com/nfl/rams/story/1755074-greg-olsen-impressed-with-jared-goff

    I thought Girly Thor was a Ram now. Turns out it’s a coach’s name.

    Goff. Pttth. Bust.

  • Johnnywad

    Am I the only one that watched Trump announce Gorsuch, listen to him for five minutes, and think “I wish that guy was the President instead of the guy that nominated him.”?

    Cuz that’s what happened at my house.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Yes.

      • Johnnywad

        I’ll take that as a “no”.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Hahahaha

    • willbest

      I remember a comment like that from a bunch of people after Donald Trump Jr. gave his convention speech. “We nominated the wrong Donald Trump”

  • BerwynBomber

    Bears re-sign Kush to a two year deal.

    • Johnnywad

      He was better than I assumed he’d be. It’s not a terrible move.

    • willbest

      Guess that means goodbye Larsen

      • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

        Hubby HATED Ted Larsen. Bashed him relentlesly every pre-game show.

    • BearDown100393

      That’s a lot of tank tops.

    • willbest

      Tackles – Leno, Massie, ?
      Guards – Long, Sitton, Kush
      Centers – Whiterhair, Grasu

      Plus 1 more to make 9. Probably the most stable group on the team in that respects.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    Fuck AJ McCarron.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Greatest Ever?

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      that Catherine bimbo dumped him.

      • BerwynBomber

        Did she hook up with Brent?

        • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

          they call her the Musty Burger now.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha

  • willbest

    “I’ve said it all along. If Jeffery isn’t brought back, Mike Williams can’t be ignored in the first round.” – Jeff

    No. Dammit! We are not Detriot!

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      If the Bears go WR with the 3rd pick, I’m moving to San Diego.

      • willbest

        Did you mean LA, or are you purposefully picking a city with no NFL team?

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Eye am the Walrus.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      #WhatWouldMattMillenDo

  • willbest

    Jeff’s abstinence might be improving his life, I am going to take his word for it, but its making his twitter feed harder for me to follow.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      New verse, same line.

    • MB30SD

      will, guess what yo… you don’t even have to look at it.

    • Artoo

      Jeff seems to be actually more harsh lately. I think he’s letting trolls get to him a little too much.

  • willbest

    So if it isn’t the AI that gets us that I posted about yesterday. It will be genetically augmented warriors

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/14/health/human-gene-editing-panel.html

    I probably should save up my money so a couple of my grandkids can be augments.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      I’m seeing an IPO for the Tyrell Corporation coming soon.

  • MB30SD

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Listen, I love Chicago pizza. But that doesn’t make New York pizza any less great. They are not even comparable foods.”

    Bingo! One is pizza, the other is a fucking meat, cheese, bread, and tomato sauce (plus anything else) casserole.

    Fuck casseroles!

  • Waffle

    I tried to bring myself to settle but I can’t do it. I just can’t. There is no tanking in pro football.
    Cucks:
    1. Hoyer
    2. Barkley
    3. McCarron
    4. Jimmy G Spot
    5. Glennon
    6. Fales
    7. everyone else
    Non Cucks:
    1. Cutler
    2. Tyrod Taylor

    • MB30SD

      hahahaha

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      David Fales squats to pee

      • MB30SD

        shhhhhhhh, you’ll make irish cry

      • willbest

        sometimes you have to as a precaution.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtQ0qvNBftw&t=20s

        • MB30SD

          hahahahahaha… that’s happened to me. Hilarious.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Gets less piss on the seat ….

        • MB30SD

          I do it when I have a raging hardon

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
    • EnderWiggin

      Serious question: What are the chances that Shaw is uncuckable?

      • BearDown100393

        Well he ain’t unbreakable. We know that now.

      • MB30SD

        He is a cuck.

        And I LOVE that yonny’s “cuck” has made it into our common lexicon

        • Huge Bears Penis

          we almost need a wiki page for all the terms/nicknames we use on here. New guys on here have to wonder what the hell is going on sometimes.

          • Bender McLugh

            New & old

          • Huge Bears Penis

            true miss a couple days and you could be lost.

          • MB30SD

            Love that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s you and me on the Cutty train, Waffle … I think we’re alone now.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        I still have hope, I somewhat accepted the fact that the Bears will move on, just don’t want Hoyer.

        • MB30SD

          Hee hee

      • willbest

        My tier 1 solution atm is Cutler as QB1 with Mahomes as QB2. But I don’t like it all that much over Cousins or Tyrod.

        In tier 2 I have Glennon or McCarron on the cheap. Jimmy G if it costs us no more than our 2nd rounder.

        In the tier 3 there is Trubisky (I like him the best between the 3) or Foles, or two 2nds for Jimmy G.

        After that, I better see a QB situation that nets us no more than 1 win and next year’s Luck.

      • beninnorcal

        I still think he’d be a viable option for ’17. I think ’16 was an anomaly for him, that thumb early in the year was probably the culprit.

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

    Rogan on the McGregor fight

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GEFB-cWQFI

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      Waffle, Murph, Irish and MacGregor are Irish (as am I), but collectively, we still aren’t this Irish

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h09ydGGsh28

      • Waffle

        he was banned from Ireland for that movie.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Eye acting 101. Or is that high acting ….

  • willbest

    So the 2017 Tesla Model S can apparently go 0-60 in 2.28 seconds. I wonder how many miles of battery life you have to give up to achieve that.

    • My 2013 Nissan Leaf has absurd acceleration too. It’s fun to not have to worry about shifting gears. Such a smooth ride.

      • MB30SD

        God damn it data… A Nissan fucking leaf?!?!

        Sigh.

        • Bender McLugh

          Her likes polar bear hugs, and so should you!

          • MB30SD

            I do, I just can’t bring myself to drive one of those fucking POSes.

            Every single dickbag who drives a Prius either goes 35 or speeds and drives like a maniac to compensate. Uhhhhggggg

        • It’s perfect for a 2nd car. Zips around town for dirt cheap, upkeep is dirt cheap, and it’s fun to drive.

    • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

      The P100D?

      You have to run the battery all the way to 100% charged, and then you can only do it twice.

      According to Jeremy.

    • Artoo

      Watch Top Gear UK version and you’ll find that some of the best car makers are making ridiculous hybrid cars now

      I think we are finally finding a medium when it comes to hybrid/ electric vehicles.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Or are they sneaking in hydrogen technology so we don’t realize cars can run on H2O? Nah.

      • Bender McLugh

        Peugeot turbo diesel hybrid. If sold in the US they’d destroy our automakers. The 206 model gets literally 115mpg.

        • MB30SD

          Hey GP… Pretty sure bender just suggested a Peugeot would destroy the west!

          A weeepon of mass decarstruction

          https://goo.gl/images/1WPTaL

          • Zap Rowsdower (GP)

            boo

          • Johnnywad

            Is that the same thing as a Renault?

  • willbest

    Perhaps I was too harsh on Mr. Canada for not sitting like a proper man, he seems to enthrall a far higher class of woman than I.

    .@DannyDutch with music. pic.twitter.com/6YoxkGz8Wj— Andy Cole (@AndyCole84) February 14, 2017

  • Zap Rowsdower (GP)
  • Artoo

    A lot of people think Jimmy is better than any of the quarterbacks in this draft.

    Bill will want us to give up our first round pick. I don’t know if Jimmy is that good but I’m even more sure that I don’t think the Bears are going to develop him into a Brady, Rodgerst, or Favre.

    Those guys had great coaches/offensive coordinators and I don’t see that on the Bears.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      He gets a high 2ND Rd pick to thank Bellicheat for his efforts. Period!

      Capich’e pisano?

    • BearDown100393

      According to Jimmy, Jimmy is a great quarterback.

      • willbest

        Also according to Edelman. Edelman also says he is underpaid. He doesn’t seem to realize that bitch ass little crackers that don’t know their place get launched from Belichick’s team.

        • BerwynBomber

          Skin color has nothing to do with ‘chick’s launching. White, black, brown — don’t matter to Bill.

          Btw, Edleman was being a good company boy with those Jimmy as the next Farve or Rodgers comments. He was trying to drive up the asking price.

          P.S. Edleman is just one more reason to loathe that team.

          • MB30SD

            I love him. Dude in the engine of that offense… But def don’t fuck with bill man. Homie don’t play dat

  • Huge Bears Penis

    Ryan Clady cut from Jets, 30 coming of shoulder injury, still an upgrade over what we have.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/02/15/jets-decline-option-making-ryan-clady-a-free-agent/

    • willbest

      Sat out the 2015 season due to a torn ACL in OTAs. Only played 9 games in 2016… Doubt he is an upgrade.

  • Doc Nitty

    Just got a very rare free moment and thought I’d stop by the old stomping grounds for a bit. Then I read the article and I realize that while I do miss my brethren, I do not miss this. Seems we’ve been having the same old QB conversations (who do we bring in? Is Cutty worthy? What about some shitty backup? The draft?) for the entirety of my existence.

    Oy vey (whatever the hell that means)

    • BerwynBomber

      Welcome back to the post-Sid Luckman era. Sixty-seven years and counting …

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    • Irish Sweetness

      Doc, wassup? What’s goin’ on, brah?

      • Doc Nitty

        Life is simultaneously beyond wonderful and dizzyingly hectic. Six kids now. Yes I’m stupid AND crazy. But hey…whadya gonna do?

        • MB30SD

          what the what?!?!?! SIX?!?

          • Doc Nitty

            Maybe? You know. When there’s not seven.

          • MB30SD

            jeeeezooos!

            You know me my maings, I was told there’d be no maths involved.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Wow. Shit man, good luck. Just … wow.

    • MB30SD

      Too fucking ‘busy’ for us now that we’ve helped him garner a new (wonderful) life.

      Always works that way… Help them through the hard times, then get cast aside like yesterday’s newspaper.

      • Doc Nitty

        So what? You’re willing to be the wind beneath my wings but you’re not willing to let me fly?

        • MB30SD

          hahahaha… always my brother. Just need a little reach around post now and then. Don’t leave us weasels groveling in the dirt while you soar.

  • Huge Bears Penis
    • MB30SD

      Grammar. Punctuation.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    HAHAHAHA!! that is just mean.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      Well shit. They only have a couple years before Mayweather will get straight murdered no matter if its just boxing.

      • MB30SD

        He should just stay retired

        • willbest

          White probably makes more off everybody talking about it than if he had to figure out a way to pay for it.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    “AJ McCarron” and “Finding a Quarterback” should probably not appear in the same general area.

    And we’re going to let Cutty walk out the door and win in Buffalo or NY for a bag of nuts.

    • CanadaBear

      Win somewhere else, that’s a good one!

      • leftcoastdave

        I count him as a keeper. Now that we have a stable interior line for him, give him a chance while trying to develop a lower cost rookie.

  • leftcoastdave

    Dez, my favorite pick and why we need to trade down to get more of the great options in the second round:

    http://dawindycity.com/2017/02/16/chicago-bears-2017-draft-profile-desmond-king-versatility/

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