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Data Responds: Bears vs. Packers

| November 12th, 2017

Chicago came out of the bye flat, acting like nobody actually wanted to play a football game against their biggest rival. Their terrible kicker was good, but nobody else really was. The only thing that kept this game somewhat close was the fact that Green Bay is terrible, but they still won fairly comfortably on the road.

Let’s break down this embarrassing effort.

Offense

  • The first drive was simply awful. After two weeks to prepare, they ran into a loaded box on 1st down and lost a yard. After a nice pass picked up a first down, they again ran into a stacked box and lost a yard. The next play was both an illegal formation and a hold, setting Chicago up in 2nd and 21. At that point, the drive was over thanks to a combination of poor play calling and dumb penalties.
  • Rookie quarterback Mitchell Trubisky actually had a pretty good start to the game. He made good throws and got the ball to players in space. That changed as the game wore on and Green Bay dialed up the pressure. Trubisky got happy feet and starting pulling his eyes down from scanning the field too quickly. He also refused to throw the ball away, making him completely inept under any sort of pressure.
  • Green Bay’s five sacks weren’t all on the offensive line, but they were bad today too. Hroniss Grasu, making a start at center and shifting Cody Whitehair to right guard with Kyle Long out, was routinely pushed back into the backfield. The unit also picked up way too many penalties, with a nice mixture of pre-snap, during the play, and after the play mixed in.

  • Credit to Trubisky for better play in the fourth quarter. He finally started playing football again instead of suffering from paralysis by overanalysis, which is what happened for most of the 2nd and 3rd quarters. His overall performance had a lot of ups and downs, but his overall stat line looks pretty good (21/25, 297 yards, 1 TD, 0 INT, 97.0 passer rating). The last few weeks I thought his stats were worse than his overall performance. This week I think the opposite.
  • Trubisky also struggled with his accuracy again this week, overthrowing a few open wide receivers.
  • I don’t have exact snap counts, but Josh Bellamy-who is the 5th best WR on the roster-sure seemed to play a whole lot on offense. Meanwhile, Tre McBride, fresh off of 90+ yards before the bye, didn’t see the field until the 2nd half. And Markus Wheaton-the highest paid receiver on the roster-did not play after practicing all week. It’s nice to see that, even with Tanner Gentry gone, the coaches continue to find ways to not play their best wide receivers.
  • Newly added WR Dontrelle Inman had a solid game today, as did Kendall Wright. It was nice to see Trubisky having open targets to throw to for a change. They combined for 11 catches for 134 yards on 16 targets. Then of course Inman had a key drop on a last-ditch attempt to tie the game. Bears gonna Bears.
  • Rookie tight end Adam Shaheen also had a nice start to the game, with 2 catches for 39 yards on the first 2 drives. He then didn’t get another target for the rest of the game.

Defense

  • This loss was more on the defense than the offense. You expect the offense to suck, but the defense is supposed to be the unit that wins them games. Instead they failed to make any big plays and gave up too many to an extremely limited Green Bay offense. They had chance after chance to give the offense an opportunity to win the game in the 4th quarter, and failed every single time. The front 7 got dominated all day, and that’s why they lost the game.
  • The biggest thing that seemed to be missing was the edge the defense played with for the month before the bye. They didn’t play with aggression, which was most obvious in the lack of a pass rush or anything close to a forced fumble.
  • The defense couldn’t have asked for a better starting situation. Green Bay had the ball at their own 7 yard line, with a bad QB making his 3rd career start. 70 yards later, Green Bay kicked a field goal to take an early lead, which almost always leads to a loss for the Bears.
  • Chicago’s standard 4 man rush was unable to pressure Brett Hundley, so Vic Fangio started blitzing, and it worked. Hundley (like Trubisky) was completely inept under pressure, so credit to Fangio for making that adjustment.
  • Of course, he later went away from that in the fourth quarter after Chicago’s offense scored to make it a game, and Green Bay responded by marching down the field (with absolutely no pressure on Hundley) and scoring a game-clinching touchdown. That’s a classic example of coaching not to lose, which usually ends up in losing. Stay aggressive and go win the game.
  • The defense was given another chance to make this a game after the offense picked up a field goal late to get within a quarter, and couldn’t do it. Kyle Fuller-who had his worst game of the season by a mile-got burned deep on 3rd and long after a blitz didn’t even pressure Hundley. What an incredibly poor effort all around by the defense.
  • It was an incredibly disappointing day from Chicago’s conventional pass rush, which should have dominated against an incredibly banged-up Green Bay offensive line and an inexperienced QB. The sloppy field might have played a role there, but it didn’t exactly seem to help Chicago’s offensive line.
  • Green Bay was on the road, with a banged-up offensive line, backup quarterback, and down to their 3rd string running back by the start of the second half. And their offense still won the battle against Chicago’s defense. It starts with the run game, as Green Bay overcame a backup OL and backup RBs to dominate Chicago on the ground to the tune of 161 rushing yards at 4.5 yards per carry.

Coaching

  • The Bears picked up 7 penalties in the 1st half, plus 3 more that were denied by Green Bay. By my count, 6 of those came before or after the play, which is a sign of a sloppy, undisciplined, and unprepared team. Coming off of a bye week and playing at home, that’s inexcusable, and is 100% on poor coaching. They even picked up a delay of game on an extra point after a touchdown. How does that happen?
  • This is more on whoever is in charge of telling John Fox whether to challenge or not, but the challenge in the first half was inexcusably stupid. Chicago went from 1st and goal at the 3 yard line to Green Bay having the ball after the Bears challenged.
  • Speaking of the refs, they were awful in this game. They called a highly questionable pass interference call on Chicago, and let Green Bay get away with more than that on multiple occasions. Clay Matthews dove on Mitch Trubisky and hit his head after the play was over with no call, they ignored a blatant Jordy Nelson hold on Ty Montgomery’s long touchdown run, and the called fumble on Benny Cunningham off of the replay was far from indisputable. It’s on a team to put themselves in a position where officiating mistakes don’t cost them the game, so don’t pin this loss on the refs, but they quite simply need to be better.
  • Watching how Green Bay ran their offense was a lesson in how a good coach makes things easy on an inexperienced quarterback. The Packers kept Chicago’s defense spread out, which opened things up in the running game and kept them ahead of the chains. They also set Hundley up with a number of short, easy passes to get him into a rhythm and build his confidence. These are all textbook things to do with a young quarterback, but somehow Chicago has not consistently done any of them this year.
  • With that said, there was some progress in the offensive play calling this week. There were more runs out of shotgun, which needs to be a regular thing going forward. There were some nice pass plays called on 1st down, which caught the defense off guard and resulted in a big gain to Adam Shaheen, a long touchdown to Josh Bellamy, and what should have been a big gain except Trubisky inexplicably didn’t throw it to an uncovered wide receiver and took the sack instead.
  • The bottom line is that the entire team came out flat. They looked unprepared and disinterested, which is inexcusable off of a bye week. That’s on John Fox.

Special Teams

  • We’ll end on a happy note. Kicker Connor Barth, who has been awful this year, was 3/3 on field goals today, with all three kicks coming from outside 40 yards. He was the best Bears’ player on an otherwise miserable day.

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  • Huge home game off a bye against your biggest rival and the team looks flat and unprepared to play.

    If you want to argue John Fox needs to go, here’s your prime piece of evidence

    • BearDown100393

      They all need to go. The problem is much larger and more complex than Hobo.

      • SC Dave

        Easier is for us to leave. Be fans of an org that deserves loyalty.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          you keep saying that but you are here week in and week out.

      • Malice Halice

        Yea we need a whole new front office. We need someone with a Cersei mindset to fuckin win

        • BearDown100393

          The Bears need a new owner

          • Malice Halice

            Period

    • BuddhaJoe

      With a terrible backup QB that had yet to win a game by the way.

      • Malice Halice

        PLEASE don’t tell me we were Hundley’s 1st win this season!

        • BuddhaJoe

          Uhh, no that didn’t happen. You were sleeping, it was all an illusion.

      • SC Dave

        Who outplayed our “franchise” QB with ease.

    • I don’t know how Jeff, Andy, SC and a few others were defending him.

      He has stunk for 2 yrs now.

      NOTHING he has done in actual games has inspired any hope, or wins.

      His biggest achievement is “they don’t quit on him”

      You know what type of team never quits?

      WINNING TEAMS.

      • ButtonShoes

        The way the team played that first year under Fox was more than enough reason to fire him then. Year 2, obviously. But in the NFL, ineptitude gets rewarded repeatedly. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Bears kept Fox for one more year. Because they are just stupid enough of a franchise to do exactly that.

        • BearDown100393

          Probably

  • BuddhaJoe

    RIP John Fox.

  • 1st to say, adios Weekend at Bernies!

    • I said it last Nov, but hey…

    • BuddhaJoe

      I think I beat you by a few seconds but still….

      • Big Mike

        Said it last thread. Lose to GB today he’s done. I’m not a fire the coach guy, but his troops aren’t prepared, he creates no advantage for our Bears.

  • BearDown100393

    If a NFL player cannot be motivated to play an arch divisional rival after a bye week, a properly run team cuts him. The Bears are failures. It begins with ownership. McCaskey double downed on this crap. Let him fester in his own pile.

    • Malice Halice

      I’m confused as well. Both of these games were the biggest games of the year and franchise yet we played horrible in both. We’re now down 2 games in the matchup n was GIVEN the advantage on da 2nd game

    • SC Dave

      I guess were I to condemn Fox et alia, it would be for this. The ONLY thing Ditka did right.

  • ButtonShoes

    I don’t want to hear Jeff make excuses for John Fox any more after this.

    • I’m pretty sure this is will be his Bucs-Cutty moment in which after yrs of defending him, he threw him to the garbage pile quicker than Spacey drops roofies into 14 yr old actor’s drinks.

    • BearDown100393

      After a few beers, he will recreate his own reality distortion field in attempt to justify and rationalize failure.

      • SC Dave

        Can’t read what Blocked wrote, but I’m assuming it must be about Jefe, Trubs, and k.s.

  • I seriously want to know how GB always manages to get their OL-no matter how banged up-to dominate Chicago’s much better (on paper, and against everybody else) front 7.

    I used to think it was Rodgers wizardry, the difficulty of rushing him because of how he moves, but that wasn’t a factor here.

    • SC Dave

      The biggest factor today was one QB could throw the ball in the right place way more than one time in three.

      And that was NOT Trubisky

      I mean Trubustsky

    • Big Mike

      1) They have a better offensive coaching staff. 2) they are better at using what they have 3) Hundley has 3 years in the system 4) their line although it is filled with back up, have a group that has played together for 2-3 weeks.

      • but Chicago’s front 7 has dominated better groups than this. How can GB completely neutralize them every damn time?

        • BearDown100393

          Because they play better

          • SC Dave

            Damnit, it SO FUCKING SIMPLE, but they always want to blame the coaches.

          • BearDown100393

            Coaches are better also

        • Big Mike

          Over confident, lined up wrong (no Trevathan), I told you that would be the key to the game.

      • SC Dave

        You forgot
        3) the Bears are pussies

        • BearDown100393

          Signed by Pace and coached by Hobo

  • SC Dave

    Trubustsky means Pace is done

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      You’re drunk aren’t you Dave?

      A 60% completion rate, a red cunt hair short of 300 yards, a touchdown, an no turnovers in his fifth start, and you’re ready to burn the place down.

      Inman is a nice player. I’m looking forward to see future that become something the rest of the way out

      • SC Dave

        And how many missed receivers wide open? Do you have gamepass? Let’s study it.

        Numbers skewed by one play, and the only number that actually counts – 0-1 v GB

      • SC Dave

        Oh, and two cunt hairs from two INTs.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Every Quarterback misses receivers and has near INTs every game. How about the drops on really difficult throws? Those matter too.

          I saw the misses. I don’t need game pass to see them again.

          Any time over the last 8-10 years, had I offered you that stat line ahead of the game agains the Packers, you’d have jumped on it. And all of this with a supposedly inept playcaller, a complete lack of talent at the WR position, and the refs/Fox jobbing is out of 1st and goal at the 3.

          So, while I’m nowhere anointing this kid the next big thing, I am seeing signs that, with time, he’s going to live up to expectations.

          Looks to me like Fox is on his way out. So let’s hope for a really sharp offensive minded head coach that knows how to speak the language and turn him into something.

          Continually railing on about how he sucks, when it isn’t even time yet to decide that, is retarded.

          • SC Dave

            I was the first here to say Cutler was not the guy. And I was right.

            *So far* Trubisky is not the guy. And I see precious little improvement week to week. I sure as fuck hope an offseason will help, because this season is done as of today.

    • AlbertInTucson

      TruBUSTky?

      SMH.

  • Pretty much the biggest positive I can take from today is that the Bears showed glimpses of a competent NFL passing game.

    Sure, it wasn’t all pretty. Trubisky needs to learn how to deal with pressure. And Bellamy needs to sit his ass down in favor of Wheaton and/or McBride. But there were glimpses. That’s a start.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Trub had some awful throws but he was set up to fail and he’s still a rook. Hard to judge him when he’s being sandbagged.

      • SC Dave

        Easy to judge him. He threw the ball crazy good in a preseason game against people bit in the NFL.

        Since?

        A few good throws, a few meh, a few terrible. When he actually figures out how to throw it.

        Soooooooooo much to learn.

        A long way from a professional QB

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          then we should let him learn by playing, instead of calling for him to be benched.

          • BearDown100393

            Learn what?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            now you are just being an idiot.

          • BearDown100393

            Save it for Hobo

    • SC Dave

      The only positive is Barf did not miss a FG

  • At one point late in the 3rd quarter, GB had faced 9 of 11 3rd downs needing 5 or fewer yards, while the Bears were 7/11 needing 6 or more.

    That was a huge difference i the game. GB consistently kept ahead of the chains, while Chicago was consistently behind them. It starts with the run game.

    Chicago couldn’t run on GB or stop GB from running, and that’s the biggest reason they lost.

    • They were consistently in unfavorable downs because of penalties (Fox) and predictable play calls (Fox/Birdcage)

      You can tell the play by how the GB safeties were moving pre-snap cuz they knew the plays.

      S bails out, pass
      S comes into the box., run

      They did opened it up a lil, but even the announcer was like ‘run run pass, run run, pass’

    • SC Dave

      Stop with the excuse. You have to make plays now and then

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        what excuses…. looks like pretty accurate observation to me.

      • teams that stay ahead of the chains do better. That’s not an excuse, it’s a fact.

        Bears have struggled with that all year. Struggled with it today. And their D couldn’t force GB behind the chains either.

        There are a bunch of reasons for it. Poor play calling. Poor execution. But it’s a fact, and it was a key stat from the game.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          it does not line up with Dave’s narrative therefore they are excuses.

          • BearDown100393

            The narrative is reality. The hope is fiction.

        • SC Dave

          Bottom line is you have to make plays. It’s really that simple.

        • SC Dave

          Teams that make plays stay ahead of the chains. Teams that don’t, don’t. It really very simple.

  • Big Mike

    Trubisky was horrible. He’ll be better. But today he sucked. I counted 4 overthrows, 3 underthrows, 1 no-throw.

    Even with the learning pains he is surely going to have and continue to have, the biggest loser of the day was Fox. He led a team onto the field that was not ready to compete. 12-13 penalties called against them in the first 3qtrs. Most of those were mental errors. Just not a disciplined team.

    My 13 year olds didn’t commit 13 penalties all year.

    • ButtonShoes

      “Trubisky was horrible.”

      Yup.

      “He’ll be better.”

      You don’t know that. But let’s hope.

      “But today he sucked.”

      YUP.

      • Big Mike

        He will be better because 1) his troubles today were exactly the ones that experience cures. 2) the Bears will not be coached by Fox next year.
        Get Outlook for iOS

        • ButtonShoes

          I hope you’re right. I need Trubisky to be better.

          • BearDown100393

            What you saw is what he is.

          • ButtonShoes

            That’s what I’m afraid of.

          • Peyton Manning still holds the rookie record for INTs

          • Juan Stone

            You may be onto something Butch. Chicago would fall in love with Tony Dungy, No?

          • BearDown100393

            Good for him.

    • Trub’s biggest drawback coming into the draft (imo) was that he was a slow-processor.

      We saw that in full display today.

      But how much of that is inexperience and bad coaching?

      (see, Goff)

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        its both inexperience and coaching. He seems hesitant to pull the trigger sometimes, which I think is somewhat cause by coaching preaching no TOs.

        • Bender McLugh

          Exactly, over thinking

      • Malice Halice

        Yea this game should provide us with a new coaching staff this offseason. I don’t understand y we suck so bad, especially against the fudge. It’s gettin to da point we need to boycott Packers games. How can you let your team lose so many fuckin times without making a radical change.

        • SC Dave

          If you don’tunderstand, it’s because you have not been a Bears fan long enough.

      • BerwynBomber

        One physical concern I have with him is batted balls. Bisky isn’t Wilson or Brees size, but he is the same height as Rodgers (and Sanchize for that matter), which is just a notch on the short side in today’s NFL.

        Anyway, he had a few today. And I’ve wondered about it for awhile.

        Sanchez, to a degree, was always going to be Butt Fumble, but I remember thinking he would have been a better QB had he been a couple inches taller. Wonder if we’ll say the same about Bisky one day.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          batted balls do not bother, yet. Most rookies have a lot of batted balls simply because they are not used to the tighter throwing lanes. More experience should clean that up.

          • BerwynBomber

            You may prove right. We’ll just have to see.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I hope so, but it’s going to be a wait and see. which unfortunately a lot of fans don’t have the patience for, which showed in the last thread.

          • SC Dave

            Is that a guess, or is there objective reality to back it up?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I will try to track down the article it was a couple years old but I don’t see how things would change. It broke it down pretty good, main reasons given was rookies are not used to the tighter throwing lanes and tend to telegraph passes so dline get there hands up.

      • SC Dave

        Hopefully ALL of it. But I would not bet on that.

      • Big Mike

        Inexperience. That’s it.

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed. VERY misleading stats. He could have been picked three or four times. He took way too many sacks. And he wasn’t very accurate.

      • Big Mike

        His accuracy was terrible, with the exception of 3-4 passes. It was surprising. Every time he tried to put touch on a pass it sailed. Bears would have won yesterday with Cutler. Not saying we didn’t make the right move.

        The truly disappointing thing for me, besides the obvious loss to the fucking packers and the end of the competitive portion of the season, is the way the Bears give away possessions. By that I mean, it seems like they are just trying to get off the field without a turnover. They don’t have a strategy for scoring every time they get the ball. 2-3 times a game it seems like they give a fuck about scoring.

    • BearDown100393

      This is who he is.

      • Big Mike

        Not anywhere close to jumping ship on Trubisky.

        • BearDown100393

          To each his own

          • Big Mike

            Your negativity is astounding. Why do you bother?

          • BearDown100393

            Called reality

    • SC Dave

      Your 13 year olds had better refs, to be fair.

      • Big Mike

        Funny. You unwind the microscopic perfection that we demand of the NFL and go back to the how it is done in HS and Middle school everyone would be happier. In HS and MS, referees are like the weather. Can’t change it, you just roll with it. Next Play. No 50x zoom lenses. No replay, just a ref trying to get a call right and do his job. They throw maybe 5 -10 flags a game, offsides, motion, holding, block in back on a kick off, punt, or interception, once in a while a personal foul, but that’s really it.

  • Juan Stone

    B. Hundley 110.8 Rating
    M. Trubinsky 97.0 Rating

    How long oh Lord? How long before the blood of the Martyrs are avenged? Sigh…

    • ButtonShoes

      If and when the McCaskeys sell, THEN you can begin to believe again. Only then.

    • SC Dave

      It’s all because of the Super Bowl Shuffle.

  • Cockney Kirk

    “A team in the NFL that does not come out of the bye a better team has a bad head coach. The Bears came out of the bye unprepared to play and a worse team.”

    -Hub on Score

    • BearDown100393

      The problem is deeper than Hobo.

    • Nothing new.
      Coined him Albino Lovie, one dump fox, weekend at Bernies (Canada) for a reason.
      Also, Fox is now 0-6 in all games he was favored in.

    • Juan Stone

      “A little suffering is good for the soul”.

      – Capitan James Tiberius Kirk

      • BearDown100393

        Yeah but he didnt blow up the Enterprise and kill everybody on board either

  • AlbertInTucson

    Sorry, Professor, but I thought one of the replays, further to the right in the endzone, WAS definitive and showed the ball clearly loose when it hit the pylon and before Cunningham’s knee hit out of bounds.

    The irony of the possession reversal coming on a BEARS challenge is sublime.

    Bottom line: This game was a litmus test and the Bears failed it, miserably.

    The corner we, at least I, was hoping the Bears had turned turned out to be a blind alley.

    That is EIGHT in a row for the Packers at Soldier Field.

    This one with Rodgers yucking it up on the sideline.

    If the Bears aren’t ashamed, they should be.

    • I think it was a fumble, but I didn’t see anything indisputable.

      But like I said, the main focus here should not be on the refs. Go out and win the game.

      • I thought it was a fumble too.

        Either way HORRIBLE challenge.

        Stupid challenge

        Retarded challenge

        That’ll go down in Bear infamy right next to the Barber run, the Conte whiff…

        • SC Dave

          Really? Were you thinking “don’t challenge, it could be a touchback” at the time?

          My bet is no fucking way.

      • Malice Halice

        That was a clear fumble

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          what was not clear was whether he was out of bounds or not.

      • ButtonShoes

        The main focus shouldn’t be on the refs, but the refs deserve to get called out for how they constantly fuck us over.

      • SC Dave

        “main focus here should not be on the refs coaches. Go out and win the game.”

        Fixed your post.

    • BearDown100393

      George made money. It was a good day.

      • Thousands of empty seats for a Packers game will resonate though.

        • willbest

          honestly doubt that they care. chargers are playing in a high school stadium where double minor league soccer sells out but they don’t

        • BearDown100393

          Still paid

          • SC Dave

            There you go. All that matters

        • ButtonShoes

          So what? The McCaskeys get their cash. It’s all they care about.

        • SC Dave

          unlikely

    • ButtonShoes

      Oh believe me, they aren’t ashamed. They don’t give a shit about losing games like this. If they did, they would put a stop to it.

    • SC Dave

      They have not sense of history, Al. They don’t fucking care. And by “they”, I mean the ENTIRE organization.

      At least Lovie understood.

  • BerwynBomber

    Goodbye Fox.

    Sorry, but that was some very embarrassing shit on both sides of the ball. Losing to win-less/TD-less Brett Hundley at Soldier is a fire-able offense, especially given Fox’s two and a half years here.

    That game will live in Bears infamy.

    • Malice Halice

      Hell yea it will! First time in 9 fuckin years we got da advantage and we lose! Yea this is shameful. I’m embarrassed to be a Bears fan today

      • BearDown100393

        Just today?

        • Malice Halice

          Yea cuz this was a historical game for us. Glennon lost the first game so da packers went up in the overall matchup n then we go play em again in OUR house and lose. WTF was Cunningham thinkin! That was a horrible fumble! Twice this year a vet has done some outlandish stupid shit at the goal line! Hold the fuckin ball!

          • BearDown100393

            Today the rivalry died.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            drama queen.

          • BearDown100393

            Losses don’t matter against Green Bay.

            – New Age Bears mentality

          • SC Dave

            That is fucking idiocy, dude. He was trying to score a TD for an offense that fucking cant.

    • willbest

      i maintain he was gone unless he took them to the playoffs, and thenonly reason this game was relevant was because he needed to win it in order to have a shot

      • BerwynBomber

        Well, not me obviously. I think a competitive 7-9 season would have brought him back.

        But losing to the Brett Hundley-led Cheese at Solider is unforgivable. Especially with two weeks to prepare and the opposition has lost three straight. For a reason.

        • Malice Halice

          Unforgettably Unforgivable

      • BearDown100393

        Playoffs? Lol

      • SC Dave

        Gone for whom? Trestman 2.0?

  • BearDown100393

    Winning organizations never accept failure or rationalize losses. And neither do their fans.

    Losing ones do.

    • ButtonShoes

      And people wonder why I’m so pessimistic when it comes to this Bears team. Performances like today’s tend to do that to you. Especially when they’ve been happening over and over again for years. The Bears really need to stop getting the benefit of the doubt. EVER.

      • BearDown100393

        The Bears no longer win statement games. They lose them.

  • BerwynBomber

    “Watching how Green Bay ran their offense was a lesson in how a good coach makes things easy on an inexperienced quarterback.”

    But the Cheese just plumb ran the ball a fuck of a lot better than we did.

    37 times for 160 yards. 1 TD and 4.3. average.

    Our running stats? 17 for 55 for a 3.2 average and no TDs.

    • BearDown100393

      Grimace is a bad coach normally blessed with great quarterbacks. Hobo lost today. And so did Pace. At home. After a bye. Against an Erin-less led Fudge. If that does not anger a Bears fan, nothing will.

    • That’s because they spread the defense out and then ran it instead of running into 9 man boxes. Also lots of short quick passes to spread the D out more.

      Simple shit a HS coach does that I’ve been begging for since the start of the season.

    • SC Dave

      We always lose when we forget Jordan Howard.

  • Cockney Kirk

    “Hey George, next time you need to clean house – which could be soon – try not calling Accorsi, try not calling some Giants organization guy, get some real advice from people that care about the Bears and do something different that works. ”

    -Olin Kreutz on Score

    DRY SLAP!

    • BearDown100393

      Sell

    • Kreutz needs to take the McCaskeys to the FBI gun range.

      • BearDown100393

        They probably own it

    • ButtonShoes

      God bless you, Olin.

    • SC Dave

      Fuck Kreutz. What’s he going to do? Sucker punch McCaskey to break his jaw?

  • Cockney Kirk

    Dion Sims was out today due to a “mysterious illness” that apparently has no symptoms. Man.

    The team is quitting on him.

    • They don’t quit on him, that’s not the narrative, just ignore all last December when no one wanted to tackle.

  • Juan Stone

    T.O.P.
    Packer 33:53
    Bears 26:07

    It’s another year in the crapper boys. Oh well, there’s always the learning curb for a new coaching staff of say…. 2 more years of sucking? Well done Mr. Pace, well done.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Trubs made some good throws, and some bad throws. Good reads and Bad Reads. Held on to the ball too long on a several plays. He was not helped out with play calling or pre snap penalties. He looks like the typical rookie. There is no reason to be labeling him a bust, there is no reason to call for him being benched. Let him play and learn. Coaches need to put the offense in positions to succeed.

    • BearDown100393

      Coaches need to be fired

      • NOW.

        But we all know that won’t happen.

        • BearDown100393

          Which is why this organization is a failure

        • Malice Halice

          Hopefully this offseason it happens

          • BearDown100393

            Based on?

          • I don’t see why we have to wait.

            Like I said LAST season, fire Fox, promote Fangio – see what he has.

          • Malice Halice

            Yea can’t get worse from here. 2 major goals was supposed to be reached this year. Find and develop a QB and take the overall record on da Fudge. Playoffs comes if we lucky. But we only got a QB that we’re hoping pans out to be a Eli-ish at atleast. I agree we should can him now but come Black Monday we effin BETTER

    • willbest

      Goff is the posterchild for not giving up on a QB. that doesn’t make the rookie season enjoyable to watch

      • BearDown100393

        The Rams are competent.

        • willbest

          they werent last year when you were watching dog shit that your tewm traded 2 firsts to get

    • SC Dave

      “Coaches need to put the offense in positions to succeed.”

      That, and Trubisky on the field, appear to be contraindicated ar rhis point.

      But since the season is now over, I suppose no harm.

      So, which QB should Pace be looking to draft now?

      • Bear Instincts

        Really Dave? i never took you as he type to lay down and die especially after all the beatings Erin had put on us.

  • willbest

    my hot take, Bears are 7-2 with Josh McCown under center

    • I think so too, mostly because Fox wouldn’t cuck the O and McCown is having his best yr (in spite of today)

      Then again, knowing our luck, McCown would’ve went down the 1st game.

    • BearDown100393

      Because he was better

    • Bear Instincts

      so true. why did we bench him for cutty again when he was on a roll?

  • SC Dave

    “The Bears picked up 7 penalties in the 1st half, plus 3 more that were denied by Green Bay. By my count, 6 of those came before or after the play, which is a sign of a sloppy, undisciplined, and unprepared team. Coming off of a bye week and playing at home, that’s inexcusable, and is 100% on poor coaching. They even picked up a delay of game on an extra point after a touchdown. How does that happen?”

    Really?!? How many of those penalties to the COACHING STAFF commit?!!?!?!?

    I’m soo fucking tired of milennials blaming the coaches for FUCKING PROFESSIONAL ATHLETES being stupid motherfuckers on the goddamn field!!

    Guess I shouldn’t expect the participation trophy generation to expect the PLAYERS to be accountable for the STUPID shit THEY do.

    • BearDown100393

      A millenial drafted Trubisky

      • willbest

        is he? i thought he was 40, that is gen x

        • BearDown100393

          Mentally….

      • SC Dave

        Yup

    • Malice Halice

      Yea true shit those penalties r on the players. Those r grown men on the field n most r vets yet ergame we make dumb ass penalties. I’ve said plenty times that those guys should lose 10k or even more for those penalties. Nobody on our team will be disciplined until then.

      • SC Dave

        Fines for that shit would be good. Or making them carry the rookies bags in the next training camp.

        Because that’s the only reason I asked them back.

        • Malice Halice

          Yea carrying a rookie bag is embarrassing and should be posted on the team and player’s social Media

        • There are rules against fining players for things like that. CBA violation and you would never be able to sign a FA

          • Malice Halice

            Damn, that sucks. We need some sort of violation for this. I wonder if we have the longest streak of atleast one penalty. I wouldn’t doubt jt

          • SC Dave

            No WONDER they do so much stupid shit. They have a *union* enabler.

    • Big Mike

      Coaches create the culture, set up the training program, allocate reps. Create the practice plans. It’s. It just Xs and Os. Fox is responsible for his teams lack of discipline. Players are accountable for their mistakes. Coach is responsible for systemic fuckery…also Coach is charged with eliminating mistakes.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I get the occasional false starts. But the illegal motion penalties are awful.

        • Big Mike

          At home? By a TE? By the Center?

          Get Outlook for iOS

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I said occasional false starts, we clearly had too many today.

          • Big Mike

            It was just a terrible game. I’m pissed off and disappointed. Not only was this the Packers game, it effectively ended the competitive portion of the season. It also guarantees we will Be rebuilding, the rebuild.
            Get Outlook for iOS

      • SC Dave

        Coach cannot eliminate mistakes, except by taking those that make them off the field. But I suppose there is a union rule against that too?

        • Big Mike

          Very wrong. Couldn’t be more wrong. A good coach spends every working moment on strategies, tools, techniques, tips to improve a player, starting with eliminating mistakes.

    • And who is ultimately responsible for the players?

      You think Billichick comes out of a bye that flat and mistake prone, regardless of players?

      The Packers have a WORSE team than us.

      When a worse team beats you, that’s on coaching.

      The Puke won at Soldier field after the Bears bye with a chump QB, a THIRD string HB, and a makeshift Oline.

      You gonna blame Pace or Trub for that?

      • SC Dave

        I blame the players. Just as I credit them whem they win.

        Don’t give me the Belichick shit…thats all Brady.

        • Was it all Brady when Cassell won 10 games?

          • madscout12

            Yup. That’s how good he is.

        • Malice Halice

          Yep! Players only. There should’ve been a fire lit under those guys and they ran out da tunnel playin like chumps

        • Bear Instincts

          How do bad or supposed bust players go the Patriots and become contributors who win and dont cause any trouble? its all about the coach and the culture.

          not every player has been a success for the patriots but they have been right more times than they have been wrong

        • Scharfinator

          Lol. Wrong.

        • SC Dave

          ..

      • SC Dave

        Okay, so help me understand.

        You lose, on the field, to guys that are worse than you because of coaching?

        You get you ass pushed off the line of scrimmage all day because of coaching?

        You throw the fucking ball 10 feet short of the receiver because of coaching?

        Really?!

        We won the Illinois high school soccer championship with a 3rd year program that had a washed up football coach and a biology teacher as our “coaching” staff. Guys that knew nothing about the game.

        Why did we?

        Because we players went out on the field and won the fucking games.

    • Bear Instincts

      FACT – Professional athletes make dumb mistakes.
      FACT – Professional coaches should put professional athletes in a position to succeed.
      FACT – The professional coaches of the bears have not ALWAYS put the professional players of the bears in a position to succeed.
      FACT – The coaches of the GBP put there players in a position to succeed.

      its not all on the players Dave. its a combination of players and coaches. coaches are supposed to motivate to get the best of you.

      question for you: would this team be better if it was coached by Belicheck, Tomlin, Payton or McCarthy?

      • SC Dave

        Don’t know. Wouldn’t be the same team.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Trubs definitely shit the bed but the play calling set him up to fail too. It was pathetically obvious for most of the game and he didn’t have a chance, but he was way too inaccurate too.

    • Penalties killed at least 3 drives.
      Drops killed another 2.

      The playcalling didn’t help either.

      That being said, Trub also looked like a rook.

      Had a wide open Wright(?) in the flats.
      Should’ve thrown it away instead of taking the sacks
      If that ball wasn’t tipped on one play, would’ve been pick 6.

      Struggled vs the the blitz.

      That’s the book on him.

      Bring 5 or more guys and watch him turn into Manziel.

      • SC Dave

        Cutler v0.8.

        Doesn’t bring the arm

        • There were some bad decisions there too (like when he didn’t see the LB who jumped the route) but when your coaching is putting you in 3rd and 17s…

          • SC Dave

            Oh stop. Execute some fucking throws, and/or blocks, or stop making penalties, and the 3rd and 17s will be rare

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            call a damn play that does not run when there are 8-9 guys in the box on every 1st down. We are getting behind the sticks from the get go.

          • SC Dave

            I guess I’ll have to do it again. Posting the fist down plays like I did for the Saints game. Did you read it?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yes I read it. However they are still calling 1st down runs against 8-9 men boxes. Not as often as early in the season. Run out of different formation. spread it out. but go ahead and post your plays again but this time make sure you look at the formations they are running out of. It is pretty obvious its a run. no reason for the other teams to back off.

          • What’s most likely, SC

            That Hicks, Goldman, Howard, Fuller, Sitton…suck

            Or that Fox, who was FIRED from his last stop, has a worse record than Trestman, is 0-6 in games they’re favored in, and just made a STUPID challenge…SUCKS?

          • Malice Halice

            It’s on both the players n Fox but imma blame da coaches more on this loss. Fuck! Everyone is to blame! The whole team just find ways to lose

          • SC Dave

            I’ll go with that.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            don’t forget that Fox was FIRED from his last stop for being to conservative and to willing too willing to accept losing. I think his quote was “Isn’t winning the division enough?”

          • Malice Halice

            Did he really say that?!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            YES.

          • SC Dave

            Or so goes internet news anyway.

          • madscout12

            Or that the QB sucks, or a guy who was the O coordinator for the Browns and Titans, under a HC who only has a winning record because of Peyton Manning, sucks?

          • SC Dave

            In the end, the guys on the field have to make plays. Bad throws, drops, pre-snap penalties… play calling cannot fix that.

    • BearDown100393

      He is fundamentally flawed

      • Critics said the same about Goff last season, and he looked WORSE than Trub

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          ssshhh! that does not fit his narrative.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Not sure about that yet. Dude was way too inaccurate today but the play calling has fucked him too. Gonna take another year and hopefully another coach to know better.

        • SC Dave

          We went through that, thrice, with Cutler. Ready for a repeat?

          • Malice Halice

            Nope I’m sure not. But you can ONLY DO SO MUCH when throwing on 3rd down

          • BuddhaJoe

            Well they can’t give him a decade like Cutty but gotta give him more than a handful of games.

          • SC Dave

            Fair enough. I’d just like to see some progress, and maybe I’m myopic, but Mitch does not seem to be learning to process the field or throw the ball straight.

  • SC Dave

    In the final analysis for today, its now another wastes season.

    Go Panthers!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Here you go, here is a blog for you to go to.

      https://www.catscratchreader.com/

      • madscout12

        And don’t come back.

        • SC Dave

          Yes, junior.

          • madscout12

            Take a hike, old man.

      • SC Dave

        Too many ads, but thanks for trying.

  • BerwynBomber

    I like Fangio but if our next HC wants to bring in his own DC I would have no problem with it.

    • Yeah, I don’t think he’s off the hook today either.

      The Puke with a banged up Oline and a 3rd string HB ran better than us.

      Esp after the half. They were continually in 3rd and shorts.

      • SC Dave

        Why is a bunch of 3rd stringers beating our line on the coaches instead of the guys that got beat?

        Seriously… I’m confused how getting your ass handed to you on the field is on the coach and not the player.

        • SC Dave

          Seriously…. please explain how getting knocked on your ass by the guy in front of you is on your coach…

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          discipline. gap coverage. things that are taught and coached. Montgomery’s TD, Prince A. was not in correct gap, Hundleys run, McPhee did not maintain containment. These are stupid undisciplined mistakes

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            you can also throw in bad open field tackling and bad angles.

        • Did the player throw the challenge flag?

          That alone lost the game.

        • Malice Halice

          4real! U don’t need a damn coach to tell u to beat da shit outta these guys. It’s almost as if the bears are Pokémon just fuckin lost.

  • BerwynBomber

    And yes Barth had a good game. That was tough weather to boot the ball in and (for once) he was money.

  • BuddhaJoe

    So would it be fucking Fangio to fire Fox and give him a shot? He wouldn’t be able to put a staff together but it could be a trial by fire to see if he’s worth promoting.

  • I continue to be blown away by how overly reactionary so many of you are every week. Every loss means clean house completely.

    Sober up and get a grip on life. It’s embarrassing.

    • Fox should be fired, period.

      Why keep him?

      • SC Dave

        Firing the coach won’t put lipstick on the pig, Butch

        • It will send a msg though, even if only symbolic.

          We can all agree that Fox is NOT the HC to get this team over the hump

          So why keep him? What has bedazzed us on gameday?

          I literally think this team will be better off without him.

          And if it’s worse, who cares?

          We’re not making the playoffs this yr and will only get a higher draft pick.

          Why NOT give Fangio a shot for the rest of the season and see if the players respond?

          • BearDown100393

            Send what message?

            George McCaskey double downed on this organization – Pace, Fox, Trubisky, the Dr. Pepper Aisle Guy….

            Firing Trestman and Angelo didn’t send a message?

            Here is the truth.

            The real message was McCaskey hiring Ernie to hand pick Pace and Hobo.

            And being really no better.

            This was a statement game. A statement was made.

      • I agree there. But there have been numerous people on here calling for Pace’s head, and saying Trubisky is a bust, and so forth. Shit happens after every game and I’m sick of it.

        Or Andrew, who’s currently trying to convince me on Twitter that Kyle Fuller should be benched.

        • All that other stuff is ridicules.

          Fuller had a bad game. A lot of good CBs do (though I bet if we watch the all-22 we’ll see that he got burnt whent Hundley broke the pocket and extended the play like on that TD)

          And Pace def shouldn’t be fired.

          He was stuck with Cutler and Fox .

          This is his first yr without Cutler and a rook QB.
          Next yr will be his first yr with his HC/OC

          Andy also was floating the idea of keeping Fox or hiring Grimace, so yeah, there’s that.

          • His takeaways from yesterday were that Fangio needs to be fired ASAP, Fuller benched, but Fox is still ok. I just don’t get it.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I especially like the idiots calling for new owners. The only way those fans will get new owners is by rooting for a different team.

      • SC Dave

        So true.

      • BearDown100393

        Enjoy losing.

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    • ButtonShoes

      So performances like this are acceptable to you? Let’s not forget that they keep happening. But don’t overreact. Don’t get angry. Nope, just act like everything is fine and dandy.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        no it is perfectly acceptable to be pissed, and it’s perfectly acceptable to call for coaches to be fired after that shit show. But it is ridiculous for people to be calling for Glennon to play, calling a rookie a bust, not accepting that penalties have a direct correlation to the coaching staff and its culture.

        • And to fire Pace.

          He didn’t throw that challenge flag.
          And he wasn’t coaching them during the bye.

          • ButtonShoes

            No he didn’t and wasn’t. But the team that is on the field, from the coaches to the players, is the one Ryan Pace put there. This is his team and this is how it plays. So if people want to call for firing him, I’m not going to tell them to shut up.

          • He didn’t hire Fox either.

          • BearDown100393

            Dysfunctional organizations tend to hire dysfunctionally.

        • SC Dave

          Wrong. Dead corpsefucking wrong.

          The players are the ones on the field.

        • BuddhaJoe

          This. Trubs made his share of fuckups but he was set up to fail. He over/underthrew too many times but was put into too many obvious passing situations too.

          • BearDown100393

            Mitch Trubisky is a glorified high school quarterback project.

    • BerwynBomber

      Ok, dad …

      And weren’t you just saying below that the coaching staff cant even call simple shit that a HS coach does?

      • BearDown100393

        The McCaskeys appreciate paying customers who never complain about the product.

        Neither does Papa John’s.

        Same product.

        • willbest

          In point of fact Papa Johns hates the Nazis who like PJs enough to make it their official pie

          • BearDown100393

            The official pie is shit so it makes sense.

        • The Papa Johns McCaskey deep dish

          It taste like shit, but ppl will eat it anyways because it’s also 80 yrs stale.

    • Bear Instincts

      the reaction is not to the loss each week but to the way in which we lose.

      • ButtonShoes

        Frankly it’s both.

      • This game is like confirmation bias

        Some hated Trub and this to them PROVES definitively that he’s a bust
        Some hated Pace and this proves definitely for them that he’s Angelo 2.0
        Some (like myself) hated Fox as another Lovie (if that)

        So I can understand why it SEEMS like everyone’s over reacting but really, these complaints have been brewing since the draft.

        • Juan Stone

          I thought the golden rule was to let fans botch until Tuesday morning after a loss?

        • SC Dave

          Good call. Butch. This

        • BearDown100393

          It is what it is.

          The Bears are Fudge fodder.

          With or without Erin Rodgers.

    • Juan Stone

      Jess, for starters I propose the McCaskey’s order a bronze cast of Michael Angelo’s “The Thinker” for Halas Hall. Just sayin…

    • Cubsnlinux

      Fire everyone can be a result of utter frustration from watching today’s garbage but you can’t really file everything under overreaction. It’s not like we are a powerhouse that lose a winnable game once a season or so. Bears were hyping “progress” from week 1 yet we keep watching the same dumb crap week in and week out and scramble for excuses after every single game and it’s all our fault? This is sports and not watching Hamilton.

      • BearDown100393

        Hamilton actors are physically and mentally tougher.

        • Bear Instincts

          damn

    • BuddhaJoe

      Hey sundays my day to drink and be that way, that’s part of the fun. This time it’s not hyperbole though, they gotta go.
      They lost to their biggest rival at home, after a bye, and to a backup qb who had yet to win a game.

      • Cubsnlinux

        This. I tried hard but can’t really see how anyone can sugarcoat this. But Halas Hall is adept this so I guess Fox will come back for 2018.

        • BearDown100393

          The front page posts here are often saccharine loaded.

      • SC Dave

        I take it you mean Pace?

        • Cubsnlinux

          Pace would get one more HC hire in my book and need to show a lot of progress for Trubisky in 2018.

          • Cubsnlinux

            I say one more not knowing for sure if it was Pace who brought in Fox.

        • BuddhaJoe

          I’d give him one more shot with a different coach. He seems to have gotten some talent but its hard to tell with this staff.

          • BearDown100393

            The staff is a bunch of lameducks and they know it.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      It’s really taking the fun out of this blog.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s amazing. Trubs had a 97 rating. Threw a few terrible balls, and a few great ones. Sure needs some more experience under his belt … but if we don’t somehow lose the ball on a challenge where we looked to be out of bounds … we could have won that.

      Fangio’s bullshit softly-softly approach to opposing QBs didn’t help either.

  • ButtonShoes

    “Lorin Cox‏ @CoxSports1

    #Bears C Hroniss Grasu’s @PFF pass-blocking grade today was a 0.0 on their scale of 0-100, the first 0.0 pass blocking grade given out in the last two years”

    Center of the future, AMIRITE FELLAS?! >:(

    • He has always sucked donkey balls.

      Again, I sometimes wonder if fans have eyes.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        nope it’s Trubs fault that a DT is in the back field, and then of course Pace’s fault for drafting him.

        • madscout12

          Exactly! Finally, someone gets it!

        • BearDown100393

          Wasted pick

    • madscout12

      I thought at the start of the game after finding out he was playing, “well, there goes all runs up the middle. Won’t stop them from doing it.”

    • BearDown100393

      3rd round pick, 2015 by GM Pace.

      1st round pick 2015 Kevin White

      Bust and Bust.

      • willbest

        goldman and amos from 2015

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          doesn’t matter Pace sucks because he could not foresee how injury prone White was, and 3rd rounders should never be busts.

          • BearDown100393

            Shaheen was also a sign of genius.

            But keep defending your polished turd.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            unlike you, I don’t expect rookies to come in and be all world players. I think they should contribute, and up until now Shaheen was not really given a chance to contribute. Some of us actually have a little patience when it comes to player development.

          • BearDown100393

            Enjoy losing.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            It’s pointless. Dude’s in a spiral.

          • ButtonShoes

            If he is, then the Bears did that to him.

        • ButtonShoes

          Amos? Really? Tell me something: what is the total amount of interceptions he’s had in the 40 games he’s played in his career? Go ahead, look it up. I’ll wait.

          • BearDown100393

            He does not completely suck so that makes Pace a genius.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            1 and it helped us win a game a couple weeks ago.

          • BearDown100393

            Tebow won a couple of games…..

          • ButtonShoes

            There it is. 1. ONE. At the rate he’s going, in 5 more years, he’ll have a total of 3!

          • BearDown100393

            Never discount contributing toward a singular win in a non-playoff season…… Amos being used as a benchmark as some type of favor to Pace…. wow.

          • ButtonShoes

            People jump through hoops to defend his poor draft record. It beggars belief.

          • BearDown100393

            The Kev White/Grasu draft was bad enough.

            It is proving to be watershed comparing to Trubisky/Shaheen.

          • A7Xthebest

            He is playing great this year, idiot.

  • BerwynBomber

    Of course the huge irony is that technically Fox “won” the challenge. The call was in fact reversed.

    Btw, Cunningham’s play probably won’t curb the ball reaching, but that stuff often seems to bring TO into the equation. Especially on wet, shitty day.

    • I said in real time that was a risky challenge cuz I remember the ASJ debacle.

      A good coach goes hurry up on the goaline to prevent Grimace from challenging
      A mediocre coach just goes along with it
      A bad coach challenges the call for the other side, gets it reversed, changes momentum, and loses the game.

      • SC Dave

        I call bullshit. Had the replay said TD, all would be fine.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          but replay showed it was obviously not a TD, so you don’t challenge.

        • And why take the chance when the refs have been brutal all yr and obvious pro-puke in this game?

          Esp when you have 1st and goal at the 1 with Howard.

  • Cubsnlinux

    I really hope the 85 championship doesn’t remain the single biggest Bears highlight of our generation. The Urlacher era Bears were at least awesome to watch like the Thibodeau Bulls. It required a change of ownership for the Cubs to turn it around and it is sad that the same might be necessary for the Bears.

    • BerwynBomber

      A single generation? Hah! The ’85 Bears seems the highlight for about five or six generations.

      But yeah, point taken.

      • Cubsnlinux

        I mean for folks born in the late 70s and after.

      • Malice Halice

        85 Bears is all we can boast about. Nothin more or less. It’s sad case for us fans but hey!

        • BearDown100393

          Where is the Buddy Ryan statue?

    • ButtonShoes

      It’s not sad that it’s necessary for the Bears. The idea that the McCaskeys would no longer be owners of the Bears anymore gives me life.

      • Cubsnlinux

        I say sad because I don’t really see that nuclear option coming into play anytime soon. So it is like we know the cure but can’t really buy the medicine.

        • ButtonShoes

          Yeah. That is definitely sad.

        • BearDown100393

          Not ONE McCaskey bothered to learn the family business. And never has.

          • willbest

            what was the mccaskey family business? football was halas business

          • ButtonShoes

            Whatever the McCaskeys’ family business was, I’m sure failure was a giant part of it, if not the main thing. It’s the only thing they know how to do.

          • BearDown100393

            Whoring

          • willbest

            Well with nine kids fucking is definitely in the mccaskey toolbox

          • BearDown100393

            This team will be owned by this rat ship forever.

          • willbest

            on the contrary, breaking ownership that small means the team will likely have to be sold in the 2050s. if they only had 2-3 kids it could have taken until 2150

          • BearDown100393

            If the NFL itself lasts that long.

      • BearDown100393

        George Halas would disown this McCaskey clan.

    • BearDown100393

      Tom Ricketts figured it out. Rocky Wirtz figured it out.

      Until the Bears find themselves a legitimate successor to Virginia, they will not and have not figured it out.

  • ButtonShoes

    “Lorin Cox‏ @CoxSports1

    #Bears CB Kyle Fuller was targeted 10 times vs. the Packers, allowing 8 catches for 127 yards and a touchdown (with 2 PDs).

    Brett Hundley has a 152.1 passer rating when targeting him, via @PFF”

    For anyone wondering why Kyle hasn’t been signed to an extension yet.

    • BearDown100393

      Data should compute Fuller’s stats after bye weeks.

    • Malice Halice

      Pathetic

  • willbest

    so Fox 0-6 in games he is favored?

    • BearDown100393

      Hobo probably won’t be favored in any future games.

  • Scharfinator

    Damn some crazy doom and gloooooom.

    It’s all over but the crying.

    • BearDown100393

      It is not doom and gloom for Bears fans who accept losing to the Green Bay Packers regularly.

      Failure is acceptable.

      • Scharfinator

        I’ve accepted it from this organization. It makes the results soooo much easier to bear 🙂

        • BearDown100393

          Comfortably numb

    • Cubsnlinux

      You tell me where the bright lights are? Trubisky struggles – he is raw, doesn’t have the weapons etc. etc. So hope that he becomes something is the only reason. When Pace fires this entire staff *and* hires someone competent and god forbid not another Trestman doom and gloom will away. Until then .. hibernation.

      • BearDown100393

        This board makes me laugh at times how mediocrity and losing are re-imagined into positive attributes.

        • ButtonShoes

          Bears fans are the best at rationalizing away how bad their team is. It used to be the same for Cubs and Hawks fans until they got an actual taste of what having competent ownership was actually like.

          • BearDown100393

            They really are not fans. They are just individuals paralleling a failed existence on a weekly basis in pro football.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Jesus Christ. Didn’t realize you were such an asshole til that comment right there

            It’s just a fucking football team.

            You are one miserable son of a bitch. Probably should stop watching at this point.

          • BearDown100393

            I dont eat dog food

      • willbest

        fox will win 3 more games so we can draft around 14 instead of 5

        • BearDown100393

          With Pace’s drafting, it does not matter anyway.

          And with fans validating mediocre picks (after all it is near impossible to completely whiff on every pick), Pace will be heralded for simply not being a complete failure.

    • ButtonShoes

      Yeah, it’s not like we’ve had years and years and years of this team being this bad. OH WAIT.

  • Bear Instincts

    There is a lot of talk about how the players are at fault. They are professionals. They get paid. With that said I have a question: Would this team perform better by any degree if it was coached by Bilechick, Tomlin, McCarthy, Payton or Pete Carroll?

    • BearDown100393

      Well none of these players would be on the field at this point of the season.

      And of course, none of those HCs would work under a GM like Pace anyway so the point is moot.

      • Bear Instincts

        With these set of players the bears have now would the coaches mentioned be able to win games?

        • BearDown100393

          Would re-configuring the deck chairs on the Titanic prevent it from sinking?

          Agreed.

          Fire Pace.

          • Malice Halice

            Haha! That’s funny

          • BearDown100393

            Not so much to the orchestra on deck…..

          • Malice Halice

            Naw not at the slightest. But I’ll try n remember that Titanic line next time I’m baited in a convo

          • BearDown100393

            What could go run with George McCaskey behind the wheel with an iceberg ahead?

          • AlbertInTucson

            “I’m in the dance band on the Titanic, singin’ Nearer My God To Thee. The iceberg’s on starboard bow, won’t you dance with me.” – Harry Chapin.

          • No, but I would at least like to hear the orchestra going down as opposed to feel Fox clinging to my legs while I sink into an ice abyss.

    • Malice Halice

      Fuck yea they would but like BD jus said most these guys wouldn’t be on da roster. But yes, significantly better with those coaches. No doubt.

  • SC Dave

    Blog breathren.

    I must apologize, but as of today I fully understand that the Bears will not have another championship in my lifetime.

    Why, you ask, should I be apologizing? Well, because I’m going to be around for a long time – my papa is 90 and still going, and moma is okay too at 87.

    Me? A mere child at 59. Given the advancements of medical technology, i figure I’ll make 120 or more.

    So, figure 60 years at least without the Bears winning another Super Bowl.

    Like I said… sorry.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      can you go play in traffic? LOL, I keed, i keed.

      • SC Dave

        How about I just pick another team?

        Go Browns!! ??

        • SC Dave

          I mean, I CANT fuck them up, right?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            if you think you are the reason a team is not winning a SB, may I suggest that you become a Packer fan.

          • BearDown100393

            This wins the Internet today.

          • SC Dave

            My mom did that. Right on the transition between Favre and Rodgers. Careful what you ask for.

    • BearDown100393

      The NFL does not have another future 60 Super Bowls.

    • Malice Halice

      Until we Purge all da folks responsible for everything bears related we will lose.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Tomorrow is promised to no one”.

      • SC Dave

        Damn straight Al. But I’m going for it.

  • ButtonShoes

    “Dan Wiederer‏ @danwiederer

    Since last home win over Packers, Bears have had:
    — 3 GMs
    — 3 head coaches
    — 5 OCs
    — 10 starting QBs”

    Wow. Just…wow. #FireEveryone

    • BearDown100393

      Sell

    • Malice Halice

      U mean sell

  • AlbertInTucson

    Cowboys vaunted offensive line has been taken to the woodshed today.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Adrian Claiborne has 6 sacks for the Falcons.

    • Tyrone Smith was out.

      He’s a bit clog in their machine

      But don’t look now, but Falcons look back.

      Thought that inj to Freeman could be big if it’s serious

      • AlbertInTucson

        Cowboys radio said “Concussion” for Freeman.

  • ButtonShoes

    “Doug Lamb‏ @dougnlamb

    John Fox’s current winning percentage is .293 with #DaBears. Win streak required to surpass previous Bears coaches:

    Dooley 5
    Trestman 8
    Wannstedt 9
    Jauron 11
    Armstrong 14
    Pardee 15
    Smith 26
    Ditka 36
    Halas 47”

    #SellTheTeamMcCaskeys

  • Malice Halice

    On da brightside, looks like the JAGS r making the post season. Don’t see too much stoppin em from winnin da division n having home field advantage. Good for them! Atleast one of da shitty teams of the past 10yrs is starting to come around.

    • BearDown100393

      With Bortles

      • Malice Halice

        With Bortles! Tom Coughlin came n got shit done!

        • BearDown100393

          And then there is Eli…

          • Malice Halice

            Oh Eli!

  • WP4Life

    If grimace and fox were hc of opposite teams today. Do da bears win today?

    • Malice Halice

      Depends on da team. Browns would’ve won, and the 9ers

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is Capers the DC? Then we win.

    • SC Dave

      No.

  • SC Dave

    I just hope all you Trubisky dreamers are happy we went away from “Fox ball” and decided to not stick with the hands-down best player on the offense today.

    You know, not let Howard “predictably” win the game. You too?

    • Malice Halice

      Didn’t we implement da same play calling as before

      • SC Dave

        Maybe you should actually pay attention to the game.

        • Malice Halice

          Unfortunately I didn’t even see it

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears did predictably lose however.

    • BuddhaJoe

      Howard was getting stuffed all game. The play calling was too obvious and fucked them both. Trubs inacurracy certainly didn’t help but they were set up to fail.

      • SC Dave

        Howard gets “stuffed” every game, until he breaks off the 50 yarder at the end that wins the game. Or the two 18 yarders in overtime, or..

  • Fox on retarded challenge:

    “Uhm, Obviously that’s a play you’d like to have back”

    No shit, fucktard

    And for those still contending it wasn’t a fumble, freeze the vid at EXACTLY 21-22 secs.

    Look at his right foot
    Look at the ball.

    https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/12/chicago-bears-john-fox-challenge-touchdown-fumble-touchback

    • SC Dave

      Oh for fuck’s sake… did YOU foresee the fucking touchback? NO ONE DID.

      • Yes. I said real time, it’s a dicey challenge because it would’ve been 1st and goal from the 2.

        You can go back and check last thread if you’re so inclined.

        And I’m no coach getting paid millions of dollars to correctly make these decisions.

        • SC Dave

          Dicey on a touchback? Or just a loss of a timeout?

          • Dicey on challenging it to begin with when it would’ve been 1st and goal from the 2 with Howard

          • SC Dave

            Not answering my question. Did you foresee the touchback? I sure as fuck didn’t, nor did anyone I was watching the game with.

          • Malice Halice

            Well he did lose the ball….

          • SC Dave

            lol… in other words, no, you didn’t

          • Malice Halice

            Naw I didn’t. Only saw that he challenged a play that was a clear fumble n at that point I saw the ball leave his hands b4 he broke the pylon

          • Yes, I thought it was a possibility because I saw Sefarian Jenkins do the same thing not long ago.

          • SC Dave

            Ah… well you had that on me. I certainly didn’t foresee a damn touchback.

            So, I thought it an innocuous challenge where the worst could happen is a waster timeout.

            Also, wasn’t the original spot somewhere our near the three yard line, or did I miss a respot? Honestly, that’s what I thought the challenge was about (given the sound was, thankfully as always, off).

        • Malice Halice

          He fumbled

        • A7Xthebest

          Yep. I said it on the very first replay, “Dear God, don’t challenge that it might be a touchback.”

      • Irish Sweetness

        The guy on the TV did.

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, Spielman called it right away.

    • BearDown100393

      Hobo shaved away his intellect

      • SC Dave

        You too.. did YOU foresee the fucking touchback.

        • BearDown100393

          Who didn’t?

          • SC Dave

            Everyone where I was.

          • BearDown100393

            Bad teams find ways to lose winnable games.

          • SC Dave

            Not the point. My point is all the second-guessers here *pretending* they foresaw the touchback.

          • BearDown100393

            Benefit of doubt long ran out

          • SC Dave

            So clearly, you did not

          • BearDown100393

            Everybody did Dave. Everybody.

    • Malice Halice

      MAAAN! He fumbled like muhfucka! How da hell u lose da ball in mid stride from someone hittin u from da back

    • madscout12

      As I said at the time, risk/reward.

      Risk a Challenge/TO to get a TD

      OR

      1st and Goal at the 2

      The only way you challenge that is if you’re out of time and even then, you don’t have to challenge. I know what I’m going with not even watching it.

  • BuddhaJoe

    So we’re staying in Westchester next Saturday. Should we just eat the parking cost or does the Metra have a decent route around there? Couldn’t tell from the maps.

    • SC Dave

      Wow… as I recall you’re out Wolf Road way… I’d say if you’re near the CB&Q (oops, BN, oops, BNSF, oops Metra) line and heading downtown, it’s worth a check.

      Or it was 30 years ago 🙂

      • BuddhaJoe

        Yeah I was hoping there was a place we could park and take it into town but it didn’t look promising on the maps.

    • BearDown100393

      Decent route? Pray you don’t derail.

  • Somewhere in a SD Jacuzzi overlooking the beach, MB is smoking a cigar not giving a fuck…

    • SC Dave

      Someone had to win, Butch.

  • willbest

    wow San Fran fucked themselves.

    • AlbertInTucson

      What did you expect?

      They played the Giants

      The G-Men have quit on Ben McAdoo who, it is rumored, will be out of a job as soon as tomorrow.

  • Coach Dungy and former bad ass Harrison on Clayborn’s 6 sacks

    Harrson, “Dak must realize he’s got a back up LT and run or throw faster”
    Dungy, “No, the coach has to adjust and give that man some help. It’s up to the coaches to make the adjustments”
    Harrison, “Yeah, Ok, you guys are right”

  • Can’t Kap just point to Savage today and win his case?

    • willbest

      I would be willing to put money on Hillary Clinton winning the Presidency in 2020 before I bet on Kaep beating the NFL on collusion.

      • Wouldn’t doubt it.

        NFL owner’s collusion is a lot like the 5 families in The GodFather

        Everyone’s territory is understood. No need for any hard evidence to prove it.

  • willbest

    NE vs. Denver? good lord. I will pass.

    • willbest

      Burfict ejected for touching an official. Couldn’t have happened to a nicer guy. Bills must have taken a bunch of ambien this morning.

      • AlbertInTucson

        A pretty weak personal foul call set that up, pretty much based on his reputation.
        But that rep is his own damn fault and he has made no attempt to improve it.
        To the contrary, he seems to revel in it.

  • WP4Life

    At least I won’t waste time tomorrow drinking the cool-aid.

    • ButtonShoes

      You shouldn’t do that anyway. Keep a healthy sense of skepticism when it comes to the Bears.

      • WP4Life

        Born in ’71, have been watching since I was a toddler.

        Tired of all the BS.

    • The Jim Jones, I mean, Fox, cool-aid.

      • BearDown100393

        Pace Aide

        • WP4Life

          BEERS – Aide

  • Tortured Bear fan

    In few words, Packers played as Bears supposed to play this game, and Bears played as….. usually play to lose a game.

    • BearDown100393

      With dimwitted delusional fans justifying this loss and chalking it up to “development” along with blaming the officials.

      • Tortured Bear fan

        Blaming the officials is the easy justification. But Foxi has made nothing to justify back as HC next year.

  • BerwynBomber

    Belichick’s left-footed punter preference immediately pays dividends.

  • Joecashflow

    I hear alot of whining about Biscuit inaccuracies and terrible game. I saw some dimes thrown accurately down field, 60% completions, 97 QBR, plus a 40+ yd TD pass. I call that progress for a rookie.

    • BearDown100393

      Good Mitch, Bad Mitch?

      • madscout12

        No INTs, but a bad sack and an overthrows. Bad Mitch seems to not be to low a floor.

    • AlbertInTucson

      If they offered everybody beforehand that he was gonna throw for 297 with a TD and no turnovers we’d have all said, “Sold!”.

  • madscout12

    Holy shit, Bennett is playing already.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He knows their system from last season but it kind of calls into question the need for surgery he claimed.

      • willbest

        Packers are going to get some money back.

  • ButtonShoes

    Good God, this is what the Bears have been reduced to:

    https://twitter.com/BarstoolBigCat/status/929796342112714752

    • BearDown100393

      Owned by idiots. Managed by idiots. Coached by idiots.

      • Pace didn’t throw that challenge flag. Nor did he hire Fox.

        • BearDown100393

          He sat like a cuckold and took a job without the ability to hire his own HC.

          • Next time you turn down a promotion worth millions more, let us know

            also, Pace did turn down the Jets job the yr b4.

            If anything, he’s probably regretting signing with the Bears, not the other way around.

            I’m not in love with his FA moves or some of his draftees, but a GM can’t be judged until he gets his QB and HC.

            He got his QB.

            Now comes the 2nd part.

          • BearDown100393

            He did get his QB.

            Giraffe for $18 million.

          • For ONE yr.

            He’s cut next yr.

            You wanted to keep Cutler or Hoyer?

    • Malice Halice

      Always at the wrong end of da joke

  • willbest

    “Remember: you all LOVE Vic Fangio.” – Jeff

    Vic didn’t tell Fuller to not cover his assignment today. 8 for 10 and a TD. I mean holy hell.

    • BearDown100393

      Fangio at his worst day still trumps Hobo “at his best” during Bears tenure.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Sorry, we got thumped today because of our defense being kept on a leash,

        • BearDown100393

          Yes it was indeed a dynamo fire powered offense let down by the defense.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Who said that? Our defense allowed them to pass all over us … by design.

  • BearDown100393

    In regards to this “rivalry”, the greatest asset of Green Bay is a Chicago fan base largely committed to defending and making excuses year in and year out to losing to the Packers.

    This blog is Exhibit A.

    • CanadaBear

      And here I thought it was inept owners, mgmt, coaches and players but if you say it’s on us, sure OK.

      • Scharfinator

        That’s amazing we have that much pull. Shouldn’t we be demanding a salary?

        • BearDown100393

          Probably at least a few refunds.

          The McCaskeys are robbing fans blind.

          • CanadaBear

            They haven’t gotten a dime out of me since the late 70’s-early 80’s.

          • BearDown100393

            All those years wasted.

      • BearDown100393

        Incompetence is largely accepted and excused by a customer base locked into the memory of 85.

    • Malice Halice

      U trippin.

      • BearDown100393

        Waking up

        • Malice Halice

          It’s not us tho, it’s da McCaskets

          • BearDown100393

            Condoned by the customers.

          • Malice Halice

            FUCK YEA IT IS! I’ve been said we need to boycott this team. I mean yea, ppl say we had the best team ever in 85 but this 2017 I don’t wanna hear dat shit no mo. I wanna brag about CURRENT EVENTS! This season will be defined as us losing da edge over a LIFELESS LIFELONG RIVAL.

    • madscout12

      There are no excuses this year. They got their usual calls, but the Bears flat out gave them the game.

      • BearDown100393

        This was built up as a statement game.

        A statement was definitely delivered.

        This organization is a farce.

        • madscout12

          Someone is a farce. There is a long list of either coaching or the FO not seeing who their best talent is:
          – Grasu playing above Whitehair at C
          – Jordan Howard not getting touches until about week 4 last year
          – Glennon signed
          – Glennon over Trubisky
          – The entire WR depth chart this year
          — Kendall Wright’s touches
          — Bellamy’s amount of snaps this game

          One thing in all of these is clear. John Fox at the very least cannot evaluate talent. Maybe Dowell Loggains. Maybe Ryan Pace. But the jury is in on Fox, and it is time to move on.

          • BearDown100393

            I have zero faith in Ryan Pace delivering a better head coach.

            I do agree with Hobo. He should be fired now.

            Pace can join him on the 1st bus out of town.

          • madscout12

            Thing is, I don’t know if a better HC candidate is out there. Fangio would be acceptable if he could convince me that he has the network to bring in a strong young OC. People will talk about how his demeanor is, but Hoodie sounds like that and has for years.

            Next guy has to have a network and a big one. That’s the one good thing you have to say about Fox…he knows a lot of people and the original staff wasn’t bad at all. But Gase leaves and he replaces him with Birdcage. Next guy has to bring in top notch talent on the other side of the ball.

          • BearDown100393

            Adam Gase very well may be fired and available.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why, in the name of God, would anyone make Fangio the HC. WHY??

            He doesn’t even understand basic defense, how in the name of sports is he a good HC???

          • Malice Halice

            Exactly! But then u need to regard da fact dis shit been goin on for years. Injuries n bad offseason acquisitions. We must start with the fox tho.

          • Malice Halice

            We also need to stop takin sloppy seconds n hand-me-downs and shit. Nobody on our coaching staff or GM joined our team with arrows pointed up! Except Gase coming from Den and maybe Fangio. We keeping takin in shit and expected to convert it into steak.

          • BearDown100393

            See Marc Trestman.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          built up by who?

      • WP4Life

        We outfoxed them.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      Yes. Because the fans have so much impact.

      You’ve lost it man. Take a break.

      • BearDown100393

        The customers usually make or break a business.

        Except perhaps the former Soviet Union.

        And of course Halas Hall.

        Keep eating the dirt giving to you by George McCaskey.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Holy shit. You’re nuts.

          • BearDown100393

            If regularly losing to the Packers is mentally sound for an average Bears fan these days, I shall embrace your definition of my insanity.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Aaaaand….. User is Blocked.

            Waste of space. This thread will be half empty without you. You’ve really been at it today.

          • BearDown100393

            Enjoy losing.

            And justifying losing.

  • WP4Life

    Brady would of put 40 on us today.

    • BearDown100393

      60

    • madscout12

      Remember, coaching has nothing to do with a team’s performance on the field. Stuff I learned on da blog today.

      • BearDown100393

        Belichick would release 95% of the Bears roster and release Mitch Trubisky.

        • WP4Life

          BB, would groom Trub

          • BearDown100393

            Sure.

            To cook him quinoa.

          • WP4Life

            Ok

        • madscout12

          I doubt 95% of our roster, including Trubisky. But Bellamy wouldn’t be playing above McBride. We might be creative about how we use the TE. And we’d take away their best 2 weapons on defense.

        • Like Shea?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Or Hicks.

          • BearDown100393

            The Hood found some purpose with Garbage.

            Congratulations.

          • madscout12

            He wasn’t garbage. He just wasn’t a 1st round pick and he wasn’t an every down DE. Maybe a decent OLB. But not a dominant high 1st round OLB.

          • BearDown100393

            Now we are defending Shea?

            No wonder this organization loses.

          • madscout12

            If you subscribe to the idea that there are just winners and losers…losers lose and winners win and that’s it.

            But the world doesn’t work that way. Winners win and losers lose, not because they are born to or something that just is. Winners win because they use the tools at their disposal smarter than losers do.

            The Bears lost with Shea because:
            – They used a 1st round pick on him when there were better players available
            – They forced him into a 4-3 DE when he was undersized and ill equipped for that role.
            – They didn’t use what he did well– his speed– to their advantage

            Funny how Fangio got something out of him and later Hoodie.

    • Irish Sweetness

      50. And he would hand Fanny Fangio the game ball.

  • CanadaBear

    I remember people on here talking about developing a rookie QB and having to endure so rough spots. This is one of those. My take was MT had no confidence in the OL (for good reason), is somewhat lost in the pocket (he moved into a couple of sacks) looked indecisive and afraid to make a mistake. He will get better at all of this stuff. Pretty sure he will take a big step next year. Can he speed up the processing? That’s the thing that will make or break him. There isn’t a hope in hell this team goes to the playoffs this year so it’s time to take off the training wheels and get down to the business of developing him.

    • BearDown100393

      Jay Cutler played behind far worse.

      • And he overcame it to always beat the Pack

        #sarcasm

        • BearDown100393

          Do not blame the line for Mitch Trubisky.

          • CanadaBear

            BD take a breath man. Of course the terrible OL play was part of the problem. Along with penalties, running into 9 in the box, shitty WR’s and yes MT was hardly stellar. It’s a rookie QB in his 5th game and you cut him no slack. Sure that makes sense.

          • BearDown100393

            That represents half of his college career.

          • CanadaBear

            Serious question BD. What did you expect from a rookie QB? Esp one that has no WR’s, a shaky OL and Foxy/Loggains developing him.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            5000+ yards passing 36 TDs 8 ints. 900+ yards scrambling.
            League MVP, SB Winner and SB MVP.
            Cure Cancer, end world hunger, and finally bring about Peace in the Middle East.

          • CanadaBear

            No wonder he’s so pissed off!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he is not asking for that much.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            No Health Care Reform? Taxes? Racism?

          • Unifying theory of everything?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            He’s already got a full schedule, but we did trade up to get him. So, shouldn’t be a problem

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            come on guys give him a break he is a rookie. He can get to the rest of the list next year.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            No. FUCK THAT!! Cut him.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Our tackles suck. Anyone who likes Leno or Massie needs a slap in the face and has to sit down and watch a Hogs game.

      • CanadaBear

        Sure let’s keep Jay and maybe he can develop in year 9. FFS BD take a pill.

        • BearDown100393

          No excuses today.

          None.

          • evantonio

            For Mitchell’s play, or for your behavior?

    • Completely agree.

      I think Dak and Wilson have distorted fan expectations of QBs.

      There’s a reason I originally wanted Trub to sit at least 4 games (actually, the whole yr, but Glennon was too awful).

      This is it.

      Trub made some good and some bad plays, like most rook QBs, esp those with only 1 yr of college experience.

      IMO, this is practically a wasted yr for Trub.

      At least he’ll learn more about coverages, blitzes, disguises, tendencies, but as for O, I doubt Fox will let him loose.

      Plus, Trub will have to learn an entirely new system and playbook next yr, which is akin from switching from learning French to learning German.

      You pointed out the #1 concern with him

      SLOW processor.

      Is it because he’s dumb?
      Is it because he’s inexperienced?
      Is it because of horrendous coaching?

      All of the above?

      We won’t find that out till next season.

      Now you guys know why I compared this team to the 16 rams since the draft.

      Hopefully, we luck into our McVay to reboot .

      • BearDown100393

        You have just extended the Mitch Experiment of Tolerance for another 2 seasons minimum.

        • Of course.

          I always said Fox should be fired. He can’t develop a QB. And that we won’t be able to judge Trub until he gets a REAL hc/oc and some weapons.

          If you were the Ram’s GM , you probably would’ve traded Goff last yr.

          • BearDown100393

            I never would have retained Fisher to poison my franchise QB.

          • WHATEVER HC the Bears would’ve hired, would have HAD to inherit Fox.

            So all of them would’ve been handicapped to start.

            You think GMs were knocking on the Bears door for that?

            We got lucky Pace even showed up.

            The plan all along was for Fox to restore some semblance of professionalism to the team.

            2nd part, get QB

            3rd part, get real HC

            (4rth, which really underpins all of that, restructure the scouting dept)

            Now, if you want to blame the McCaskeys for being idiots and having to hire an outside “think tank” to hire the HC, you won’t get any argument from me.

            If it were up to me, Sweaty Teddy, and the McCaskeys would all be replaced, but it’s somewhat useless bitching about that.

            We’ve been bitching about that since Y2K

            Pace is sandwiched between the McCaskeys and Fox, and an inherited scouting dept that Angelo and Emery shaped for like 20 yrs.

            Given all that, I think he’s doing ok.

            Like I said, once he hires his own HC and yr 3 of shaping the scouts, then we’ll get a clearer picture of the Bears future.

      • madscout12

        I hope so. I don’t see a McVay out there.

        • evantonio

          did you see a McVay out there for the Rams before they found a McVay for the Rams?

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Bomber did. Let’s put him in charge of the hire.

          • evantonio

            He’s as good an outside consultant as any of these other guys.

          • madscout12

            Not really, but looking back, the conditions where some talent could come out of top programs existed. The Skins and the Falcons had overperforming offenses, and it allowed both McVay and Shanny to get HC roles. Shanny had years as an OC and McVay had 3 years in Washington (since 14′). Who’s got that now?

            Who are the talented offenses (top 10 scoring with other notables)?
            – Philly – Frank Reich (2016)
            – KC – Matt Nagy (2016)
            – Seattle – Bevell (2011)
            – Patriots – McDaniels (no)
            – NO – Carmichael (2009 – but Sean Payton calls the plays)
            – Rams – LaFleur (2017)
            – Zona – Goodwin (2013)
            – Falcons – Sarkisian (2017)
            – Dallas – Linehan (2015)
            – Jags – Hackett (2016)
            – Steelers – Todd Haley (no)
            – Texans before Watson went down – O’Brien (no)

            Bevell has been mentioned over and over, but never hired.
            Carmichael would be interesting, but Pace knows how much he does in that org.
            I don’t like how the AZ O runs.
            Pat Schurmur is interesting but as an OC not as a head coach.

          • evantonio

            Dave Toub for HC?

      • CanadaBear

        I’m guessing a couple more people joined us in the campaign to rid ourselves of W@B.

        • This should be Fox’s “buc” game but some ppl are still gonna deflect the blame to others like Pace or the players.

          Whatevs.

          If Pace is truly the GM we hope he is, he’ll fire him soon.

          Something tells me he wasn’t allowed to fire him because the McCaskeys didn’t want to pay 3 HCs in a row to sit at home on their asses.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he won’t be fired in season. If they didn’t fire Trestman mid season they are not going to fire Fox.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Agree. But Black Monday, he’s out

          • We’ll get a clue soon, methinks.

            If we hear about McCaskeys meeting in dark corners by midweek, he’s gone.

            2 yrs too late, but fuck it, better late than never.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            You were right. I was hoping for more this year. Bucs game was where I kinda threw in the towel.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think the Bears have ever canned a coach during the season.

          • And I think they’re somehow proud of that, which is absurd considering some of the god awful coaches and records through the decades.

            Like they were proud of never hiring a previous HC.

            Fucking bizzaro world.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Today was the day. He’s done.

            That challenge that blew up in our faces is kind of the image that will stick with me. That’s when I knew.

    • BerwynBomber

      He looked pretty crappy BUT a) he’s a rookie, and as you said, b) his development now takes precedence over wins.

      • CanadaBear

        Really frustrating but that’s what you get with a rookie QB. Moving into those 2 sacks and taking one when the guy is wide open right in front of you (too worried about making a mistake that close to his end zone), make you cringe but he’s not a dope, he really wants it and he’s very athletic so I think he will be OK in the long run if he can make the reads quickly. I loved that bomb to Bellamy. First time I’ve seen a bomb in stride in a long time.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          At least he’s not throwing it to the defense. Remember when we were all screaming for Cutler to just eat it sometimes instead of trying to throw a guy open.

          • CanadaBear

            Game after game after game.

          • In spite of ALL the shitty miscues by players and coaches today, Bears were still 1 score behind with a chance to win at the end.

            As long as Trub doesn’t go full-Cutler, games will be like that for the most part.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            He seems far too cautious for better or for worse. Doubt he’ll go full Packers Bad Cutler.

          • BerwynBomber

            But there is a difference between eating it and throwing it away.

            Counter-intuitively I wonder if he would mature faster if he would take more chances.

            And despite his stats he was a bit Cutler-like today. There seemed be three balls at least the Pack could have picked, one of which would have been almost certain pick six.

            Ah well. He’s a rook, but you will rarely if ever see more a misleading PR rating.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I wondered the same thing. I would like to see them say fuck it and open shit up and tell him to take chances, just to see what happens.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Might as well

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            They need to let him fuck up. Work through as much of it as they can before season’s end.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We’re now reaming him for balls that could have been picked? He has no chance. if he was Cutler-like he would have been throwing WTF interceptions..

          • BerwynBomber

            I wasn’t “reaming” him so spare me the drama queen/playing to the cheap seats act.

            He made some poor decisions and threw some inaccurate passes. If you didn’t think so, we watched a different game.

  • BerwynBomber

    Brady and the Pats are a fucking machine. Remember when they were “struggling”? Seems to happen every year and then they’re 7-2 after nine games.

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      B.B. needs a minute to turn chicken shit into Chicken Salad.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yup

    • madscout12

      They have talent, but what is Hoodie preaching every week? Situational football. And you know the situation or you’re cut.

    • They are loaded though.

      Many pundits were predicting they’d go undefeated and cruise through the playoffs.

      That being said, they’re just coached up.

      Left footed punters. 100 yd KRs. Taking away best weapon. Attacking weakness.

      The Drago of the NFL.

  • Dis Guy Trublinsky

    I distinctly remember feeling bad for Grossman when the fan base turned on him. Beginning to feel a little of that for Trubisky.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      is the fan base really turning on him or is it just a couple idiots on here? I guess I should listen to the score to find out.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        I listened to about ten to fifteen minutes of Hubs postgame show. I’d say it was about like the board here. Problem is, it’s cancerous.

      • Score idiots are worse. In the hierarchy of Bear trolls (lowest level being worst)

        – Blog
        – Score
        – Twitter
        – Pirate feed chat from FL

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          well I am glad that when I troll it is considered the top of the hierarchy.

    • BerwynBomber

      Meh. Who’s turning on him here? SCD and BD? Hardly a majority.

      Kid had a bad game against our hated rival when their HoF QB was in warm-ups. Fans are going to be a little pissed and the majority of it is directed at Fox.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        And a few Score callers. Like i said though, just starting to feel it a bit. Hoping it doesn’t turn into a runaway train.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        there were a handful of people bitching earlier, seemed mostly people with lower football IQs.

        • BerwynBomber

          Bitching’s fine. Completely giving up on Bisky is when it gets inane.

      • madscout12

        Did he really have a bad game, though? The stats say he didn’t. He had some bad throws, but would the offense look better with Sanchez or Giraffe?

        I’d say the Chicago Bears had a bad game. Kyle Fuller had a bad game. The OLine had a bad game. John Fox had a bad game. The kid wasn’t a huge plus, but he was a plus in my book.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The fan base isn’t turning on Mitch, just some folk who over-reacting to a rook in his 5th game … erm … getting a ….. 97 rating.

  • BerwynBomber

    Brett Fucking Hundley. SMFH. How insulting?

    In some ways it was as embarrassing as the 55-10 annihilation we suffered at Lambeau during the Trestman years.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I repeat myself but, “Don Horn.”

      • BerwynBomber

        And Edgar Bennett, right?

        Horn, Bennett and Hundley? The Triumvirate of Bears Shame.

      • madscout12

        Yup. I told a Packer fan at work “Bear Down” on Friday, and got a sick feeling. Not going to enjoy Monday.

      • Cormonster

        I listened to the Packer broadcast while working today. Apparently Ty Montgomery has 4 runs over 30 yards in his career, all against the Bears.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Jamal Williams then came in and must have run through 10 tackles on various carries.

          For sure, he ran through 3 on one play that should have been a loss but turned into a 3 to 4 yard run for a first down.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Does this constitute “Tooting my own horn”?

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Inman looked pretty good in his debut.

    • BerwynBomber

      Inman and Barth were the two bright spots. Just tough to get all yippee after that shit fest.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Other than the last drop which ended the game. But promising, yeah.

  • RenoBear

    Sooo here we go again. Still don’t get the Trubs hate. It’s his 5th game. Again, mis-fired on some throws. Holy fuck people… it’s his 5th game. We have FAR bigger problems than QB. Don’t shit on the kid. He being coached into over-thinking and playing scared. It’s a very slick slope there. I don’t get the fans who just think he’s a total bust… shit man, we’d all have killed for Cutty to throw two picks in 5 games. Should he have had a couple more picks? Yeah probably.., but they weren’t. Should he have a few more TD’s? Yep absolutely… Miller, Howard come to mind, I think there’s another one in there. But again, they weren’t TD’s the same way the INT’s weren’t either. Get off the fucking ledge. 5 ducking games after 13 college games. There’s talent there. The fucking coaching staff needs to put him in better places to succeed! Look at that first down bomb to Bellamy for the TD… shocking, look what happens when you try shit! And as for the whole owners need to sell blah blah blah, look it ain’t happening. Pace hasn’t even done a terrible job.. look what the fuck he inherited!! but he’s got some big ass decisions coming up. Fox has gotta go, Fangio is overrated, and Birdcage, well let him open up the playbook for the kid and see what he has. But if he’s going to Dump all three, it MUST be after this season, and set a structure and system in place to give the QB a chance to succeed. All the good QBs in this league have a sound system in place. As for all the haters… dude go do something else, y’all are some miserable sons a bitches

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      {stands up…. begins a slow clap}

      • RenoBear

        Hahaha.. nice. Dude I get so frustrated with the friggin mouth breathers. I ran into one last week at friggin Target here in Reno. We struck up a conversation, and within the first minute he recited all the Score callers gripes, he was all over the board. It’s like he listened th the Score for an hour before he walked into the friggin store. I fuckin HATE that we lost to the FUCKING Puke AGAIN… with fucking Rodgers laughing on the sidelines AGAIN. I’ve always been of the belief that players dictate outcome more than coaches, but I’m swinging to the other side when a team is limited, that’s when coaches need to show their mettle. Grimace fucking SMOKED John Fox today… and that is fucking UNACCEPTABLE

    • madscout12

      Thing is, like him or hate him, we have Mitch starting for the next 2-3 seasons. Just as we did Grossman once, and Cutler. So you can bitch and moan about every mistake and call for him to be benched. But when you do that, you’re just rooting for the bears to fail for next couple of years.

      Or you can realize the truth…it takes a village to have a good QB situation, especially at the beginning. And if we get this wrong, we’ll be in the same spot in 3 years. No stability at QB and no playoffs.

      • RenoBear

        Exactly. Hitch your wagon to the kid and ride it for three years, and hope you see enough by year 3 that you seen he can be a ten year guy. Just like almost every damn team in the league does, aside from the eight or so long term guys out there. But I’ll tell you this much, I’d much much rather be in this position we’re in now than wasting 5-6 years on Andy Dalton like Cindy has done, for example. At least we’re still in the ‘hope’ stage, and there’s nothing wrong with that. That’s why I don’t get at ALL these guys dumping all over him after 5 GAMES. Holy fuck!!!! Wilson and Dak are the exception, but they also came into VERY stable environments, something the Bears are still working on, but we are way closer to that than we were 3 years ago, you know?

  • Derek Price

    The owners got it wrong, should have been an experienced GM and a younger coach.

    Fox is unlikely to take advice from Pace, and a more experienced GM should have a keener idea for talent identification, Fox is a bridge too far and has to go immediately. Keeping him will alienate fans and the Bears will continue to lose relevance

    The owners should consider $5 million a cheap price in the Bears turnover, and look to someone who will develop the team and at the same time speak out to the Bears faithful, a depressing thought that Fox will continue his boring style and limited play calling. A younger coach would bring more up to date ideas and formations and should be closer to the playing group.

    As a fan from Oz, watching the Packers game was a a friggin disaster and should result in swift action ( here’s hoping)

    • Juan Stone

      Shouldn’t you be referring to them as shareholders? It’s obvious to me that this Team doesn’t have any owners.

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