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Data Responds: Bears at Packers

| September 29th, 2017

Two road games, two blowout losses for the 2017 Bears. Green Bay won the first quarter 14-0 after a great opening drive, followed by a 3-yard touchdown after Mike Glennon turned it over on Chicago’s first offensive snap. Things stayed quiet until the end of the first quarter, when a 47 minute lightning delay led to what felt like the start of another game.

Of course, the Bears still had Mike Glennon in at quarterback, so nothing changed. He turned the ball over 3 more times and shut down the entire offense with his incompetence before racking up just enough garbage time stats to make his performance somewhat defensible if you squint (stop me if you’ve heard that before).

Coaching

  • We’re starting here tonight, beginning with the continued ineptitude making appropriate personnel decisions late in a blowout. With all the practice the Bears’ coaches have gotten in these situations in the last few years, you’d think they would be great at it by now, but they’re not. Down 28 points in the 4th quarter, the Bears rode Jordan Howard and Tarik Cohen, their two best offensive players, to a meaningless late touchdown. Zach Miller, their best tight end who has made a career out of going to IR, played while rookie Adam Shaheen sat on the bench. Why? This is literally a fireable offense if the team’s management cares about their personnel at all.

  • We’re not done with bad coaching decisions though. Jordy Nelson, the Packers’ #1 WR who has routinely torched the Bears, somehow caught not one but two touchdown passes without a single defender thinking it might be a good idea to cover him.
  • Seeing as I’ve gone in on Fox and Fangio, offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains deserves some criticism too. Their offense was far too predictable based on personnel groupings; more on that below.

Offense

  • On the first snap, they lined up in a heavy run look and tried a play action deep pass. You can understand the logic there, as it’s literally the last thing anybody would expect after three games of watching this offense. Of course, the reason the Bears haven’t been trying that is because of Mike Glennon, who fumbled on the play despite having sufficient time and an open target. Green Bay recovered on the 3 yard line, and by the time the offense got back on the field for their 2nd snap, it was 14-0 and the game was over.
  • Chicago started moving the ball on the 2nd drive until Glennon turned it over again. This time, Glennon gave the silent snap signal but started walking up to the line to change the call because he  thought nobody on the OL saw it. Consequently, he was unready for the snap, which he deflected over his OL right into the heart of GB’s defense. For those scoring at home, that means the first two possessions ended with Glennon turnovers, which is somehow not his worst start to a game in this young season.
  • The third drive ended with a 3-and-out punt instead of a turnover, which is progress, I guess. On 2nd down, Glennon somehow misfired on a screen pass, which he followed up with (stop me if you’ve heard this before) a checkdown to a well-covered receiver well short of the first down markers.
  • Coming off the delay, the Bears had a chance to make this a game. They had 1st and 10 in Green Bay territory, then ran it 3 straight times to pick up a 1st down on the edge of field goal range. They then ran for 15 yards against a 9-man box, only to have it called back on holding by Josh Sitton. On 1st and 20, the drive was over. A called screen was dropped by Jordan Howard, but it wasn’t going anywhere anyway, as Green Bay was obviously waiting for it. 2nd down featured a checkdown, then 3rd and long saw a pass deep to a triple-covered Josh Bellamy. I know I’ve been telling Glennon to go deep, but checking down there puts the Bears in field goal range. And if he was going to go deep, Kendall Wright was uncovered down the sideline. The Bears punted, which pretty much ended any chance they had at making this a game.
  • The game officially ended on the next drive, when Mike Glennon turned the ball over for a third time. This time it was an interception, as he overthrew a wide open receiver in the middle of the field (I’m now going to toot my own horn for a minute and point out that I predicted 3+ turnovers from Glennon on Monday). Two plays later, Green Bay was up 21-0.
  • To Glennon’s credit, he settled in a bit right before halftime and didn’t totally suck (though he was far from good) for parts of the second half (though he did add turnover #4, another interception on a horrible pass). Still, it would be nice to see that performance from the start instead of placing Chicago in a massive hole first.
  • You have to think 4 turnovers in this game (and now 8 on the season) is finally enough to cost Glennon his job, especially with 11 days before the Bears play again on Monday Night in week 5. There is simply zero justification remaining for Glennon to be Chicago’s starter. If the Bears are absolutely opposed to not playing Trubisky for some stupid reason, then they should turn to Mark Sanchez.
  • I’m sorry for spending so long on the QB here, but I really don’t know what else to talk about. There is no way to watch this game and come away with any conclusion other than Mike Glennon needs to be benched, and that is the overwhwelmingly dominant story. Let’s try to look elsewhere now.
  • It was the first game this year with the entire starting OL playing, which was nice to see. Despite offseason plans to flip them, the Bears kept their 2016 alignment of Kyle Long at right guard and Josh Sitton at LG. Given Long’s dominant debut at RG last week, that seems like a smart move to me.
  • The Bears tried to establish the run, but were unable to. In the first half, they ran it 14 times for 31 yards, an average of only 2.2 yards per carry. They stayed under 2.5 until garbage time in the 4th quarter. Green Bay copied the Atlanta and Tampa Bay blueprint and loaded the box with bodies, daring Mike Glennon to beat them through the air. Spoiler alert: he couldn’t. I noticed a number of plays where the Packers had 8-9 men in the box, but the Bears ran it right at them anyway.
  • The Bears were able to get GB to drop into more coverage looks by going to shotgun, but they almost never ran out of that. They got too predictable: run out of I-formation (against an 8-9 man box) and pass out of shotgun (against a 6-man box). They need to mix that up a bit more going forward.
  • One thing that did help the Bears get a few nice runs again this week was faking the end-around to Tarik Cohen. That’s been a nice wrinkle by offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains, I expect to see them actually give him that ball before long.
  • Speaking of Cohen, it was a quiet game for him. He didn’t get many touches on offense until garbage time in the 4th quarter, at which point he shouldn’t have gotten any more touches but did for some dumb reason.

Defense

  • Bears gave up points on the 1st drive again. As Andrew Dannehy has repeatedly pointed out, there’s a strong correlation under this coaching staff between giving up points on the first drive and losing games. With this offense, a 7-0 lead before they even hit the field feels huge.
  • The Bears won the coin toss and deferred. I get why they do that, but given their early defensive struggles, they might want to start considering getting the ball first.
  • Green Bay came out establishing the run, which seemed to catch the Bears off guard. They ran it 5 times for 28 yards on the first drive as they marched down the field for an easy touchdown. The run game slowed down after that, helped by running back Ty Montgomery leaving during the first drive with an injury.
  • The defense actually settled in pretty well after the first drive, but it didn’t matter. They need a perfect performance with Chicago’s offense, and they weren’t perfect on the first drive.
  • Green Bay played this game with their top 3 (4? 5?) offensive tackles out, and Chicago’s pass rushers did not take advantage as much as they should have. There was some pressure, as Pernell McPhee killed one early drive with a sack, and Leonard Floyd finally got off the schneid with a 3rd down sack as well, but the defensive front did not dominate as much as I would have liked given Green Bay’s injuries. I wonder how much of that had to do with the field, which was incredibly slippery after the weather delay. That makes a disciplined rush against a mobile QB like Rodgers very difficult.
  • Still, I have no real complaints about the defensive performance after the first drive other than the failure to force turnovers, which are vital to stay in a game when the offense is this inept. They held GB in check after the 1st drive until late in the 3rd quarter, at which point it was obvious the offense was not getting them back in the game.
  • Danny Trevathan had a horrible cheap shot late in the 3rd quarter that took away a Bears’ stop on 3rd down, turning a FG into a TD. More importantly, it knocked Green Bay WR Davante Adams unconscious and forced him to leave on a stretcher. He crushed Adams in the head after Adams was wrapped up and couldn’t avoid the hit. There is simply no room for that in football. That play will bring him a hefty fine, and I wouldn’t be surprised if it draws a suspension.

Special Teams

  • In news that should surprise no one, Connor Barth missed another field goal attempt, this one from 47 yards. I don’t know why he was ever re-signed, or why he’s still on the roster. It’s just another example of the Bears confusingly being loyal to mediocre journeymen veterans.
  • The ST almost had a costly turnover in the first half when Deon Bush didn’t clear out from his blocking assignment after Tarik Cohen called off the punt. I don’t know if that was on Cohen for not communicating properly or Bush just didn’t hear him, but the ball may or may not have hit Bush’s foot before Green Bay recovered. Thankfully, the evidence wasn’t clear enough to overturn the call of Bears’ ball on the field, but they need to figure out what happened there and make sure it never happens again.
  • Bush also roughed the punter in the fourth quarter, though he got away with it when the refs incorrectly ruled they got a piece of the punt. It wouldn’t have mattered one bit for the game outcome, but he needs to show better ST discipline.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    well

    • SC Dave

      The inheritance setup Halas left is why this team has been nothing for 50 years.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    TLDR; Glennon sucks.

    PS will read later.

    • I ranted on Glennon for a while, but tried to point out other observations too.

      It’s hard when the game is over before there’s much to judge other guys on.

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      Or: TLDR; Dumpster Fire, with you know who in it

    • SC Dave

      Thumbs up, except for the second sentence. I doubt I’ll bother. It’s obvious what it will be.

      Far more interesting would be finding for people of bad memory such as me a SINGLE FUCKING INSTANCE THIS SEASON where a Bears player, on offense or defense, won a contested ball.

      • a couple non-QB nuggets:

        1) O routinely ran out of heavy sets and passed out of shotgun. GB D saw this last week too, was ready for it. 8-9 man box against heavy sets, 6 man box against shotgun. Bears need to mix that up to be less predictable.
        2) Fake end-around to Cohen opens things up for Howard in the run game again. Good way to maximize his value while limiting his hits.
        3) Bears D gives up early points again. Almost always leads to the L. They need to stop deferring on the coin toss and/or figure out how to not suck on the 1st drive.
        4) Connor Barth sucks. I hope this was his last game as a Bear.
        5) Deon Bush also had 2 boneheaded ST plays tonight. Not good when you’re an end of roster player trying to stick around by providing ST value.
        6) Terrible coaching to play Howard/Cohen so much of 4th quarter and expose them to so many hits. Also played Miller and sat Shaheen, which is dumb.
        7) Front 7 didn’t dominate like they should have given GB’s OL injuries. Wonder if field conditions (everybody was slipping) played a factor there.

        • SC Dave

          Ok, thanks.

          Maybe I’ll go back and watch all the condensed. There has to be ONE play this year a Bears guy won a contested ball, right? One?

          Man the Lovie days seem so far away.

          • They haven’t had a ton of chances for contested that I can think of. I know Bellamy has had a few shots, but couldn’t bring any of them down (shocker). Glennon is generally too risk-averse for that.

  • That Guy

    There is no way to justify continuing to start a guy who turns the ball over 4 times a game, especially when The Future is on the bench.

    Your move, Foxy.

  • – Team came out like Zombies (see, Weekend at Bernies)
    – Team got dominated after half (see, Weekend at Bernies)
    – D allowed the Puke to dominate on the ground in spite of shitty JAGs
    – Fangio has apparently no idea how to defend pick routes
    – Totally blown coverage, another Fangio staple
    – Barf
    – Glennon. All the upside of Hanie, with all the down side of Cutler
    – As Data pointed out, total clusterfuck in garbage time. Howard with one shoulder still out there. Cohen. Wright. Oline. Defenders too. It’s not like we have a bunch of china dolls or need young guys to get reps, right?

    • Pack ran it 5x for 28 yards on 1st drive.

      19 for 63 after that. D settled in fine until they wore down.

      • Ty Montgemery avg 5.6 yds per carry.

        He got inj.

        THEN their run D “slowed” down cuz they had scrubs at HB

        If Ty didn’t go down, he was going to be in for another monster day against Bears.

        • on the 1st drive, RB was going 5 yards before getting touched. That stopped.

          That’s about the OL vs. front 7, not RB skill.

          • When Howard came in last yr with same Oline other RBs sucked in, they instantly had a better run game.

            Oline counts, but so do talented HBs.

            The D couldn’t stop Ty.

            And later they couldn’t stop their run game on important downs.

            I already know what Fox is going to say. He’s going to say something about they wanted to take away the pass blah blah

    • SC Dave

      Barf missing that field goal was not good. While we really needed a TD, being down 11 would have looked a lot better than 14, and I think picked up the D a bit more early in the 2nd half.

  • That Guy

    Green Bay surprisingly didn’t make hay on the TE/ILB mismatch, with Timu being such a liability in coverage.

    Of course, when they kept getting away with OPI with their pick routes, I guess the WRs had all the balls Rodgers could shove in their faces.

    • SC Dave

      The pick shit was ridiculous, but since it’s the Bears you can get away with it all day. So you should.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Those plays are just confusing along with OPIs.

      College goes crazy calling them, then the NFL is like “Hmmm, depends on our mood, but it’s in the rule book”, like everything else they fuckin do

  • CanadaBear

    Wow, the Bears suck. Specifically Glennon but the coaching was shitty all ’round and it reminded me of a team coached by Abe Gibron. In case you are really young, that’s not good.

    • EnderWiggin

      Fox now has a worse win% than Gibron.

  • madscout12

    I am so freaking tired of looking like crap against these guys. Every damn year, same shit.

  • beninnorcal

    Yeesh..

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Local CBS News spent not even 2 minutes with game highlights. Spent over 5 minutes about the Anthem protesting at game.

    Football is dead. DEAD.

  • madscout12

    Fox…”not just the QB. Everyone wants to talk about the QB. We’ve got more issues than the QB.”

    I could believe it after Tampa. Not after tonight. Glennon single handedly threw that game away. 4 TOs.

    • He’s right. The BIGGER problem is him.

      • Malice Halice

        Correctamuno

    • SC Dave

      Wrong. He did not single-handedly throw away the game. There plenty of help. If Fuller had not hurt Montgomery, the Packers would have scored at least 70 points.

      • That Guy

        His first two turnovers gave Green Bay enough points to win the game. Both were boneheaded errors.

        Yes, he threw away the game single-handedly.

        IF his first 2 turnovers were his only ones, yes, it would have been difficult for the Bears to win. But there was no way this team could overcome 4 Glennon turnovers.

      • madscout12

        Bull.
        1st Drive – 1 play, fumble by the QB (7-0)
        2nd Drive – 6 plays, fumble by the QB (14-0)
        3rd Drive – 3 plays, punt (improvement!) (14-0)
        4th Drive – 8 plays, punt (more improvement!) (14-0)
        5th Drive – 3 plays, INT (14-0)
        (21-0)

        The Packers had 14 points in the 1st half off of three turnovers. Other guys were bad, but Jeff is right. Everyone has to be perfect around this guy, because he can’t make any plays by himself. You hope to win in spite of him, instead of because of him.

  • Malice Halice

    Fudge threw less than 200 yet got 4tds!

    • 4 turnovers, 3 of which set up short fields, help in that regard.

  • Fox did say the Bears have a lot of changes to make when asked if there would be a QB change.

    I think it’s coming. He didn’t immediately shoot it down like he has at every chance until now.

    • That might’ve been the plan all along.

      I’m just wondering if Fox realizes he’s a dead man walking. And if so, how will he go out?

      • Malice Halice

        He’s gonna help us get the 1st overall pick n move on with his life

      • EnderWiggin

        He’s gonna put in Biskuit and finish 13-3! Retire and hand the reigns to Harbough.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Fox admitted to being OUTCOACHED.

    Doy, ya think?

    I barely could understand him, that voice is too high pitched, ugh

  • Malice Halice

    Bears n Browns fans should b eligible for some kinda “pity tax credit” cuz lawd knows us fans need SOMETHING to look forward to in January

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I’ll take the “death tax” of a particular ownership at this point

      • SC Dave

        This is the key. The Chicago Bears have been, since George Halas died, purely a cash flow for this heirs as specified in his will.

        Winning, pride, etc, are not relevant. The fiduciary responsibility was to take care of the progeny. And in that, the trustees have been very successful.

        • Malice Halice

          Need to boycott they ass. I’m tired of losin. Our fans r too loyal to have to deal with this crap.

          • SC Dave

            Boycott wont change anything, man. Nothing.

            Any money the fans spend is a pittance relative to the TV contract revenue.

          • Malice Halice

            Yea dats true

  • BTW, for those scoring at home, Glennon is now responsible for 8 turnovers and 4 touchdowns this year.

    At least 1 of those TDs has come in garbage time (TB). 2 more were on drives against prevent D (ATL and GB right before half).

    • Malice Halice

      I’d be highly surprised if he gets picked up by another team at the end of this year.

      • CanadaBear

        Backup QB making $1mil/year.

    • He’s no Hoyer, that’s for sure.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    I think the lightning found the endzone more than the Bears did tonight

  • AlbertInTucson

    Fox just left the door wide open for switching at QB.

    • beninnorcal

      How so? And where can one watch post game interviews besides snippets on youtube?

      • AlbertInTucson

        NFL Network.

        • AlbertInTucson

          What he said convinced the NFL Net studio guys that the Bears would use the mini-bye to ready the Rookie.

    • ButtonShoes

      I’ll believe it if it actually happens. I refuse to credit Fox with the cojones to actually make that call.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It certainly is not he decision, alone, to make.

  • That Guy

    What is it with Fox denying that there is a dumpster fire in charge?

    (I’m talking about the Bears coach, not the ‘news’ network)

  • Playing Howard so much in the 4th quarter and running him into an 8 man box over and over and over was fireable.

    Seriously, fire anybody who was involved in that decision.

  • SC Dave

    “by the time the offense got back on the field for their 2nd snap, it was 14-0 and the game was over.”

    Good fucking thing you have NOTHING to do with running the team. What a fucking loser statement – tonight’s Bears are EXACTLY what “fans” like you deserve.

    Edit: oh, and…

    “Coming off the delay…. … The Bears punted, which pretty much ended any chance they had at making this a game.”

    But wait, it was already over at 14-0

    • Malice Halice

      That’s ludicrous. We don’t have a offense to catch up 14pts and apparently a defense that can’t contain Rodgers.

    • What have you seen out of this offense in 4 games to make you think they can make up a 14 point deficit? They’ve hit 14 1x in 4 games (not counting garbage time in this one), and that came with 10 points on short fields off of turnovers.

      You can seriously fuck off with your Glennon defending bullshit. He’s a terrible QB and you have zero right to get pissed at me for telling it like it is just because you don’t like to face the truth.

      • Malice Halice

        *drops mic

      • You’re absolutely right that the rest of the team wasn’t perfect tonight. Doesn’t change the fact that Glennon was the worst Bear on the field. That’s at least the 2nd time in 4 games.

        • CanadaBear

          The Bears had to play a really good game on D and ST’s and not turn the ball over on O just to have a chance to win. Down 14-0 before you get the foam off your beer, yeah, it’s over!

      • CanadaBear

        Nice of you to edit and apologize. I was a little shocked you went salty! Gotta say I wasn’t offended!

    • CanadaBear

      It ruffles your feathers but it’s true. The Bears O have zero quick-strike ability with MG in there. There wasn’t even a tiny part of me that didn’t think this game was going to end bad. If you don’t learn from history …

      • willbest

        The magic QB before the half was quick strike. But apparently they don’t have more than 1 two minute drill

    • burntorangenavyblue

      If the team IS that incompetent, with history proving that they are, with the same coaches and players doing the execution, well….the game is literally over if it occurred after that 2nd snap. That’s how bad it is. The 4th quarter improvements are just all garbage stats and the Steelers might be a worse team than people realize.

      These observations and well reasoned opinions of these observations didn’t come out of ours or anyone’s asses for no reasons.

      Last but not least….it’s Green Bay.

    • EnderWiggin

      Wooooah. There are some good points written up there man. Its hard to put up anything readable 10 minutes after the game. Most of that is just notes.

    • ButtonShoes

      Homers like you are the worst. No matter how shitty the play of this team, people like you defend it. How is this team going to get better if you refuse to criticize it regardless of circumstances?

    • it felt over at 14-0, based on how this offense has played this year.

      The D kept it at 14-0 for a while, which gave the O a few chances to score make it a game. They unsurprisingly were unable to seize any of them.

  • BTW, Glennon blamed his 2nd fumble on a miscommunication between himself and Whitehair, such that both are responsible.

    Glennon gave the ok to snap signal, then acted like he hadn’t. Whitehair snapped as ordered, and Glennon wasn’t ready for it. Tony Romo, who would know this, pointed it out.

    100% on Glennon. And that’s the 2nd time in 3 weeks he deflected blame for one of his turnovers onto a teammate (Bellamy w/ 1 INT against TB).

    You have to believe teammates see that shit and get furious, especially coming from a player who’s been playing like shit.

    • It’s hard to seperate the BS.

      It’s like when we were trying to figure out who was responsible for the INTs, Cargo or Bennett.

      Seems like both.

      Whitehair’s snaps are off. Low, to the side, etc and that’s not counting his penalties. This could be the result of Fox dicking him aroud to OG and C and back and forth, or maybe just maybe Whitehair is a better OG than he is a C (a position he never played in college).

      OTH, Glennon sucks, and we didn’t see these type of fuckups even with Barkley.

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  • Malice Halice

    As much as i hate to admit it…. Gomer is a bland qb, but given the fact that we have NO WIDEOUTS, Gomer goes from bland to absolute ROTTEN! He got the shortest stick of ANY qb I’ve seen (keep it real now) but STILL he needs to leave Chicago.

    • This is a fair point. Glennon’s specific limitations (lack of mobility, slow release, slow through progressions) are a poor fit for the Bears’ personnel around him, which makes him look worse than he could be. You could make him look somewhat better by giving him dominant WRs to throw to.

      Still, how many good NFL QBs have poor mobility, a slow release, and are slow moving through progressions?

      • Malice Halice

        Yea n we HAD that wit Cam n K-brittle to compliment him but that ship tanked. I really don’t like him as a athlete and he already got 18mil so it’s not like he will be hurting in life.

    • madscout12

      4 TDs to 8 TOs for a guy who’s best attribute is that he runs the offense and doesn’t turn the ball over. All risk, no reward QBs get short leashes in the NFL.

      • Malice Halice

        Yea he got an excuse (no WR) but that don’t explain his TO’s in no shape or form. It’s not like cbs r jumpin da ball, this guy is LITERALLY throwing DB’s the ball hittin em on da numbers! They ain’t even gotta TRY to catch it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Whoa. Whoa. Our Mitchell was dropping nuggets on our backups in PS. You couldn’t have walked up and placed the ball any better after a meeting on the matter. Thrown on the run, for that matter.

      Mitch will make the WRs. I saw Bellamy get his clock cleaned on one reception today, defenceless receiver, still held onto the ball.

  • Hicks quote: “The changes we need to make, hopefully we make those changes. Hopefully we put our team in a position to win.”

    Is he subtweeting Fox about QBs there, or am I reading too much into that?

    https://twitter.com/CEmma670/status/913630789212016641

    • RenoBear

      A billion up votes. The team players know… make the change. It has to happen. Glennon is just… not… good. Let’s go through the growing pains with Trubisky and start the growing process

      • Malice Halice

        18 mil to play like that tho! Chicago b pissin away money

        • RenoBear

          S’true… glad it ain’t ours. And it ain’t gonna hurt them any next year either… so screw it, Glennon won the lotto.. now he can go leave football

          • Malice Halice

            18mil to get a POS qb out the league. Quite an expensive filter I must say.

        • I still maintain the main reason they gave Glennon starter $$ was to convince the NFL they weren’t interested in Trubisky and avoid a bidding war with the Browns for the #2 pick.

          • Malice Halice

            True, I keep forgetting about Pace’s scheme

          • of course, that doesn’t explain why they’ve kept playing him, but I’m reasonably confident that is over now.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not buying it. Pure conjecture.

            If the Cleveland Browns thought so much of Mitchell Trubisky … then it doesn’t take a brain surgeon to work out what to do with the first pick of the draft.

            Pace thought Glennon was the best QB available (after canning Cutler!!) … this is just a facepalm scenario. He HAD to pay him 18M because that’s what you pay starters.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            We should have kept Cutler and drafted Trubisky.

            Or ANY scenario that doesn’t involve Glennon.

            That includes signing Tebow or Caep or retired Joe Montana.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            without signing Glennon, then they still could have signed Watson at their normal draft position.

    • No, we all know what that means.

      All the players on the set interpreted that remark as a call to change the QB (at the very least. Maybe was even a shot at Fox)

    • KentuckyBearsFan

      Yeah, all we got to do is change our Quarterback, our Coach, and our God.

  • BerwynBomber

    Agree about the Trevathan hit, JWood. Total cheap shot. Fine and suspension probably on the way.

    Glennon should be third on the depth chart. And yes, if the coaching staff refuses to start Trubisky this early, then throw Sanchize out there.

    Was disappointed in the D tonight. Rodgers is Rodgers but that was a bad O line and our pressure was only average — not bad/not good. But it should have been so much more.

    Was also surprised we couldn’t run until garbage time.

    I still like E. Jackson but he had a really bad game.

    So did C. Whitehair. Two bad shotgun snaps are two too many.

    • I wasn’t that surprised by lack of run game. GB followed TB/ATL blueprint that PIT strayed from, for some reason. Stack the box, especially in the power sets. Bears telegraphed run/pass by formation way too much.

      The 2nd snap by Whitehair wasn’t bad, IMO. Glennon was just walking up, so it hadn’t reached full height yet. But Whitehair also had a holding penalty. He’s looked rusty at C, likely because they kept him at G most of offseason and season until now, IMO. Hopefully he settles back in at C soon and continues developing there.

      I thought the D rebounded great in the 1st half after an awful 1st drive. Made GB work for that 3 yard TD, then forced punts on 4/5 of remaining drives, with the exception being a big play off a turnover. Not so good in the 2nd half. Has to be tough when you know the game is over.

      • BerwynBomber

        Fair enough about the D. I just thought we would generate a better pass rush against a O-line comprised of four Gs and a C (three of whom were back-ups). Though it looked like GB was using a very quick passing game to offset their O-line issues. Smart move. Didn’t see the usual amount of extended plays from Rodgers. More quick slants than usual.

    • It wasn’t a cheap shot.

      Trevathan just was running full speed trying to finish a tackle. He lowered his head (which he admitted he should’n’t have done) while Adams was still battling for yds.

      Don’t want to get hit, go down.

      How many times do we see offensive players keep churning their legs only for big fat Olinemen to run full speed from behind to push the player into the endzone?

      Lots.

      Trevathan is also known as a thumper but not dirty. I hope this doesn’t make him less aggressive going forward.

      • BerwynBomber

        A) Adams was being held up, so I don’t know if he could go down
        B) DT led with the crown
        C) He went for the head

        The “defenseless” aspect is of course debatable. The spearing and head-hunting really not.

        • CanadaBear

          Not trying to defend DT but in replays everything really looks bad. I’m not 100% sure he was going for his head. He was really hauling ass to get into the play. Not to mention, I agree with Butch and how much the OL guys get away with pushing the pile well past when the play should have been whistled. Still, DT was definitely leading with the crown.

      • KentuckyBearsFan

        Seeing the replay I did not think he intentionally wanted to do anything dirty.

        But there was a THUMP on the hit.

        And that noise by itself might cost him.

        • Irish Sweetness

          (holds handbag up close to chest)

          A thump … oh my goodness … was it solid … oh the poor boy … whatever is football coming to? A thump … oh goodness gracious, that’s terrible. Vicious buggers!

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            that’s the modern NFL.

            Perception over reality.

            It didn’t look bad…except the guy had to be carted off. And that’s more reality than perception.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fuck Adams. Fuck the Packers. Fuck Aaron Rodgers. Cry me a big ole bucket of Cheesy Wisconsin tears.

        Christian Jones should have been sent in on the suicide mission. Spear Vadgers. And write the fucker’s name on a towel and show it to the world while they’re at it. Eye for an eye. Those fuckers were laughing at us. We’re a joke. We used not be a joke because we knew what defense was about.

        Have away at Fox, but John Fox has never really killed us. Pace has. Fangio has. In fact, Vic Vagina has been killing us since he got here. Fair enough, it gets us higher picks, but he’s got to be the FIRST person to leave Halas Hall because he’s a disgrace to the tradition of tough defense.

  • And a 2nd teammate jumps into the fray:

    Wheaton asked if WRs are on same page as MG: “Speaking for myself, I haven’t had a catch. So we obviously have got some stuff to work on.”

    https://twitter.com/JJStankevitz/status/913633061249732608

    • Zach Miller: “We’ve got to go home, have some self reflection, see what you can do to better our football team, better our offense.”

      Not sure if that’s a dig at the QB or not. Less obvious there.

      https://twitter.com/MikeBermanNBC/status/913632078025109509

    • Hicks “Hopefully we put our team in a position to win”

      This also shows that Fox has totally lost the locker room.

      • CanadaBear

        I think you might be reading too much into that. Hicks might have been pissed about a lot of things, including Fangio’s game plan (just what was the plan?). It was the first time in a long time that I’ve seen W@B’s that fired up and pissed off. I thought it was a total failure from the top down. Not sure how any NFL DB’s are still baffled by pick plays but the Bears DB’s sure are. Is that on Fangio? Not sure. I think the Nelson TD’s were on Eddie. Just a total fucking failure with a missed FG just for that list little titty twister before the shot in the nuts!

        • Those “rub” (pick plays) I 100% blame Fangio for.

          How the HECK can he not know the Puke use those all the time at the goaline? In fact, I’m rather certain they got penalized for it twice against the Bengals last week.

          On that 3rd and short Romo sure knew they were bootlegging when the WR lined up behind the LOS.

          Naturally, Fangio did not.

          There were some breakdowns in the secondary, which again, is not an isolated incident under Fangio (I was surprised there wasn’t one last week). They’re not usually understandable blown coverages but absolute fuckups any HS secondary would never do. That’s also on Fangio, IMO.

          Though I’m not so sure what he could’ve done when defending short fields.

          Team came out like zombies again. Teabagged after halftime again. That’s on Fox.

          You’re right, it’s all around, but the main culprits remain the same.

          And if they stick with Glennon, then they deserve another top #3 pick.

          • CanadaBear

            There’s no way in hell they stick with Glennon. Either it’s MT or Sanchez. Let’s hope it’s MT.

          • KentuckyBearsFan

            Just cut Glennon. The Bears would be vindicated when no one picks him up like Tebow or Caep.

          • They should. He’s a waste of roster space.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Bring back David Fales I hear you say …..

          • Irish Sweetness

            “And if they stick with Glennon, then they deserve another top #3 pick.”

            That’s the only explanation that makes sense for all of this. They know they need a couple of tackles to keep Mitchell upright. I haven’t seen a defensive end on this team since Julius Peppers. I like Floyd and Hicks and that’s all she wrote.

            Pace either can’t spot talent, or he’s installed this shit-show to garner a higher draft spot next year … and at this rate, it might get him Darnold (or the spot to trade).

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fangio’s “philosophy” of Defense:

          Rush as few players as possible, that way you’ll have more shit players in position to make plays … plays that they can’t make anyway – because they’re shit. But at least we’ll have the ‘numbers’ back there to make something happen … except nothing can happen because the QB has all day in the pocket to find an open receiver against a shitty defender.

          The ONLY philosophy of Defense:

          Pressure. Pressure. More pressure.

  • Malice Halice

    Have u guys been hearing about “for the pussy/for the dick” challenge?

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Does it involve pouring rubber dicks and pussies on your head and face for charity?

      • Malice Halice

        Naw it’s ppl rapping about what they’d do for some pussy

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I’d make sure I’d be wrappin it for some pussy too…hehe

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Time to give this team the actual name: Chicago Fire.

    The MLS team can just have whatever

    • ButtonShoes

      MLS? Do people actually care about…that?

      • burntorangenavyblue

        That’s why I said “whatever”

  • ButtonShoes

    “Glennon’s here for a reason. We evaluated him over the years. We’re very
    confident in him. Glennon’s our starter, and we’re confident with that.”

    “Mike Glennon is our starting quarterback and we’re fired up about that.”

    “I’ve liked Mike ever since (he was at) N.C. State, honestly. Being in
    the same division, at New Orleans, was beneficial, being up close.
    Obviously he’s a big quarterback with a strong arm. But beyond that, he
    has all the other traits that I value at the position – he’s
    intelligent, he can quickly process (information), he can see the field,
    he’s accurate, he gets the ball out quick. So there are a lot of traits
    about him that I like.”

    *sigh*

    • Wasn’t this Pace BEFORE he drafted Trub?

      GMs never lie, right?

      • ButtonShoes

        I sure hope he was lying. Good God I hope he was lying.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If this is not an indictment of Pace … what is?

        He thought all of that about Glennon, so WTF does he really know about anything?

        Possibility/probability: he’s another blind squirrel who found a nice nut in Mitchell, who improved out of all recognition from his college days, and happens to be very good (but still paid more than he probably had to .. .SF didn’t go QB at 3.)

        Many/most of his decisions are head-scratchers. I support our receivers generally, I’m a fan, I don’t want to be a hater … but there have been names available at WR over these last years worth a look. I saw Pace do NOTHING in the draft for the OL. People might point to Shaheen as being help for the OL, I say okay, draft him in the sixth where he’d still be lucky to get drafted. But Pace did nothing for the OL. Did less for the ILBs.

        I didn’t like the Demps signing or the Jackson pick. He fucked us at Safety. Cooper’s a cuck. Fuller – a possible bright spot in the secondary – has got nothing to do with Pace.

        Fox gets enough hate, he can’t polish turds.

  • Amos totally sucked in by Vadgers on that big pass to Jordy.

    Told you guys the Puke would pick on Amos.

    He’s a damn liability out there.

    #TJward.

    • CanadaBear

      What are you, nuts? The Bears had Antrel Rolle and that Amos kid. They stacked and packed at S.

  • KentuckyBearsFan

    Do Pace and Fox not release they need to change quarterbacks NOW to save their damn jobs?

    • ButtonShoes

      I doubt it. But they have 11 days to do something. And if they don’t, well…that tells you everything you need to know, doesn’t it?

  • CanadaBear

    Not sure what Erin was saying to Hicks after DT punched out the guy’s lights. Whatever it was, Hicks didn’t take kindly to it. I hope Hicks remembers that during Rd 2. Hopefully he will have a better game with a healthier foot.

  • CanadaBear

    I know Wheaton is supposed to be a speedster but he sure looks small out there. He’s listed at 5’11” and 185.

    • beninnorcal

      He also has a horrible tendency to fail at catching things, especially footballs.

  • Nancy Glennon

    I got a call from Mikey on the trip back, he was trying to hold it together but he is an absolute wreck. When he finally got home his wife called me hoping I could help him feel better. So I drove over and found that he was in his room crying uncontrollably. It was like when he was a kid and lost at Candyland, just bawling. I did my best to get him calmed down but he is simply inconsolable. I even brought his favorite stuffed animal from when he was younger. It always helped. Not this time. I tried to get him to hold Jeffy the Giraffe but he did not want any thing to do with him. I don’t know what to do, I have never seen him turn down his old buddy Jeffy. I told him it was just a game and he should not worry because he is getting $18+ million. This only seemed to upset him more. His wife Jessica is looking at him like he is the most pathetic failure of human being she has ever seen, I would not be surprised if she leaves, and right now I would not blame her.

    • beninnorcal

      He’ll pull it together for the Vikes and shut up the haters. His uncle Rico said it’s in his pedigree.

    • Send Jessica my way. I’ll make her feel like $18M but without the shame and turnovers.

      • Nancy Glennon

        I don’t know if you would want her, from my understanding she has some weird fetishes, like being peed on. When I heard that I was very concerned that Mikey made a mistake marrying her.

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    I hate knowing that Glennon is throwing an interception from MID-THROW just from his body language.

  • RedBulls83

    These loses are becoming predictable. Play great one week and then the next week get absolutely destroyed.

    I don’t even care if Fox puts in Mitchell next week, and the Bears end up looking better because of it. Fox needs to go. So many dumb decisions from him over the last 3 years, where I completely understand why John Elway wanted him gone. I think his coaching years are past him, and he needs to retire in general.

  • Bender McLugh

    Data – on your link to EdRyan purportedly showing the strip sack that led to 14-0 lead, the score in the screenshot shows 14-0 already……just sayin

    • Good catch.

      I believe the screen shot was from a replay shown during the weather delay. Thus “2nd quarter” with no time shown. At that point it was 14-0, though the score was 7-0 when this play happened.

      • Bender McLugh

        semantics, the point still stands that MG doesn’t know how to throw it to the open guy most of the time.

      • Bender McLugh

        wait wait, not semantics, I just understood what you said, a replay they showed after they already scored again. Got it! Now time for weekend……

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