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Data Responds: Bears at Bucs

| September 17th, 2017

Well that was ugly. The Bears turned the ball over 4 times in the first half, trailed 10-0 after one quarter, and 26-0 at halftime en route to a 29-7 final score. I’m going to focus most of my comments on the first half, because that’s all that mattered. The 2nd half was just playing out the string.

  • First, let me just start in general with the coaching. All three phases made huge mistakes in the first half as the entire team looked unprepared, and that is 100% on the coaches. They had key blown assignments, early wasted time outs, too many dumb penalties, and lots of sloppy turnovers. Somehow, Chicago’s coaches need to figure out how to get their team ready to play.
  • Can whoever has a voodoo doll for the entire Bears team stop already? Nick Kwiatkoski, Kendall Wright, and Tom Compton all left in the first half, though at least Wright returned. In the 2nd half, Josh Sitton and Akiem Hicks added to the walking wounded, though Hicks also came back into the game. For those scoring at home, that means the Bears left week 2 without their top 4 WRs, 3 of their top 5 interior OL, and 2 of their top 3 ILBs, plus their top CB has yet to see the field this year. Mark this as the 3rd year in a row where injuries are a defining story of the season, meaning the Bears need to figure something out with their conditioning and training staffs.
  • The coaches also continue to show zero feel for how to manage playing time in a blowout. You think they’d be better at it with all the practice they’ve gotten in the last few years. Somehow Akiem hicks and Josh Sitton were both playing so that they could get hurt in the 4th quarter down 4 scores, and the already overworked Tarik Cohen still saw touches in the 4th quarter as well.  Zach Miller, who might be Chicago’s best healthy pass catcher and is made of glass, made multiple catches on the final drive despite having a rookie drafted in the 2nd round sitting behind him. Why?

Offense

  • I’m starting at quarterback this week, because there’s nowhere else to start. Mike Glennon turned the ball over 3 times in Chicago’s first 3 possessions. He threw two terrible interceptions and showed zero pocket awareness on a fumble. By that point, the game was over at 23-0, and it was yet another terrible day for the former Buc. Glennon was far from the only bad Bear in this game, but he was the worst. His time as Chicago’s starting QB has already gone 2 games longer than it should have, and now it officially needs to be over. Yet with this pathetic coaching staff, I don’t doubt that Glennon will be starting next week, especially after showing “promise” in a meaningless 4th quarter (where he missed several throws and had another INT dropped by not one but two defenders).
  • Glennon was inexplicably not benched at any point during this game, and finished the day 31/45 for 301 yards, for a poor 6.7 yards per attempt. But that doesn’t accurately reflect just how bad he was, even on the non-turnover plays. He hit a bunch of throws underneath that any NFL QB should be able to make, and also forced several incompletions on short passes that went to his targets’ feet and/or behind them. We know what Glennon is, and it’s not good. There’s absolutely nothing he does at an above average level, but many things he’s quite bad at.
  • Tampa Bay came into the game focusing on stopping the run and keying in on Tarik Cohen in the passing game. This should have been predictable to Chicago in their game preparation, as those were basically the only things that worked last week, but they couldn’t come up with anything else effective. The 1st half yielded 16 rushing yards (on 14 attempts), 3 offensive turnovers, and 0 points. The passing game actually got some work going underneath in the passing game, but that approach requires long sustained drives without a mistake, which they are not capable of doing.
  • Speaking of Cohen, he came back down to Earth a good bit in week 2. Tampa Bay unsurprisingly focused on him after his big debut last week, and successfully shut him down. He also had an incredibly stupid punt return where he picked up a ball off the bounce when surrounded by Bucs, was immediately hit, and unsurprisingly fumbled.
  • The coaches needed to anticipate Tampa Bay’s defense would key on Cohen and use him as a decoy in this game. They failed to do that, which led to the offense being too predictable. Those edge runs that Cohen was able to turn into gains in week one were all snuffed out and contained this week. Their touches for Cohen became too predictable, and he continued to get too many (17, when the goal should be 10-12 for a player of his size, like Darren Sproles consistently gets).
  • Kendall Wright was featured more today after being completely ignored until the 4th quarter last week. I’m surprised it took that long for Chicago to realize they should try involving their best WR in the game.
  • In all the OL shuffling as Compton and then Sitton got hurt, 2nd year man Cody Whitehair moved from C to LG to RG. Continually moving one of your best players around seems like a poor strategy to me. Let him get comfortable and dominate at one spot.

Defense

  • Another week, another opening scoring drive by Chicago’s opponent. As Andrew Dannehy has been all over, this is a worrying trend for the defense, and one that leads to them losing games. Somehow, the Bears need to figure out how to stop putting themselves in a hole at the start of nearly every game.
  • Two other bad trends for the Bears showed up repeatedly in this game as well: the inability to force turnovers and the inability to get off the field on 3rd down. In the 1st half, Tampa Bay was 4/7 on 3rd down, including 3 3rd down stops negated by penalties.
  • Perhaps more worrying, the Bears failed to force a turnover until after the game was out of reach. They even had a great chance on the 2nd play from scrimmage, when Danny Trevathan tipped a ball up in the air that hung forever. Somebody needs to come up with an interception there, but no defender got even close. Pernell McPhee (it was good to see him for more than 4 snaps this week) finally forced a fumble in the 3rd quarter, which Leonard Floyd picked up.
  • Speaking of Leonard Floyd, the Bears need much more from him. Chicago’s supposed budding superstar has been mostly invisible through the 1st two games, though he finally showed up with a few plays in the 2nd half (after the game was over). They need him to be a difference maker. When that didn’t happen in the first half, the defense got zero pass rush and looked pretty mediocre.
  • Pretty much the only positive from the first half in my book was Kyle Fuller. Tampa Bay’s passing game moved the ball well, but everything went towards Marcus Cooper. By my count, Winston was 0/4 targeting Fuller in the 1st half. Of course, Fuller did drop an easy INT in the end zone in the 4th quarter, so it wasn’t all good.
  • Rookie safety Eddie Jackson had a solid game too. He put in good work in coverage (largely on Fuller’s side, where Winston had much less success) and plenty of sure tackling, including a nice tackle for loss in the run game.

Overall

  • That’s all I have from this nightmare. I feel like I put in more effort than the Bears today.
  • Seriously, we’re two weeks into the season and this team already looks lifeless. They didn’t even get excited after finally forcing a turnover in the 3rd quarter. It feels like the players have prepared themselves for another long, losing season.  Can you blame them?

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  • SC Dave

    Panthers win with 9 points.

    6 points surrendered in two games. Thinking a new team for me.

    But, sadly, pathetically, I’ll be over it tomorrow.

  • King of DBB

    Ownership has 0 to do with this. 0. -Jeff

    Well that is 10000% wrong.

    • SC Dave

      You left out a couple of zeroes, GP

    • BearDown100393

      Jeff has to be careful not to upset his boss.

  • BearDown100393

    This is a lifeless toothless deadass corpse of a football team unworthy to represent our city.

    • SC Dave

      No. The adjective that matters is “brainless”.

  • BerwynBomber

    Said this before but will say it again. QB depth chart should look as follows heading into W3:
    1. Trubisky
    2. Sanchize
    3. Glennon (inactive)
    I have seen Sanchize look bad in his past days (and even look good at times). I have never seen him look as bad as Glennon did today, and I have never seen Glennon look as good as Sanchize as the latter did on (too rare) an occasion.
    #StartTheKid

  • Ralph Martoni

    Bears fans deserve so much more than this crap from ownership on down…

    • DaMurph

      What s ownership got to do with it? They spend tons of cash but our GMs and coaches end up sucking!

      • Irish Sweetness

        They endure Ted Phillips, the angel of Death, for one .. .they embrace sucking.

  • CanadaBear

    It got buried in the game comments but I owe an apology to Jeff, Andrew and the rest of you guys. Mea Culpa. Play the kid #10.

    • BerwynBomber

      Wouldn’t sweat it. I actually liked the Glennon signing to a point when it happened. But his play in preseason gave me serious doubt, and I never bought the Rodgers-wouldn’t-be-Rodgers-if-he-had-started-as-a-rookie argument.

      I thought they should start the rook but I was okay seeing what we had in Glennon. I have seen enough. He is the 3rd best QB on the roster.

      • CanadaBear

        That’s pretty much where I was. Not that I knew he would suck balls this bad but I thought he would be better than this. Not to mention, the WR’s (or lack thereof), OL in flux. Hope MT is ready in a hurry. If he still can’t call out the protections at the line, either have the C do it or play Sanchez.

        • BerwynBomber

          Well if you thought Trubisky should start then no need for an apology. I just refused to let it consume me a’la Jeff.

          • CanadaBear

            There was no doubt in my mind MT, once he was ready, would be better than MG. I just thought the coaches would know when that would be. Now, I don’t have any faith in Foxy. Foxy could easily lose the team. It’s not like he’s got a lot of history with most of these guys.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’m wondering if Pace secretly hopes Fox does lose the team.

          • CanadaBear

            Shame on him if he does. Grow a pair and send Foxy packing!

    • Bender McLugh

      There room on that bus?

    • It was somewhat defensible after the preseason to want to go with the veteran.

      At this point, we’ve seen Glennon for parts of 5 games, and he’s put together 3 not-shitty drives.

      • CanadaBear

        I knew he wasn’t great but I thought he gave them a chance at the end last week and that was enough to start this week. No reason to start him next week.

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    • Nah. Most of the hold your roll crowd stipulated if Glennon imploded, then bring in Trub.

      Well, Glennon imploded, so bring in Trub.

      They should also fire Fox, but the fangless Cubs, I mean Bears, won’t do that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Playing the kid now does not meaning apologizing to anyone … Jeff was calling for Mitch before the season started, it was based on hope.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        It was based on the KNOWLEDGE that Glennon sucked, not hope. Jeff, as with others, watched a lot of Glennons play in TB, and realized his limitations.

  • BerwynBomber

    Why the fuck does goddamn the Chicago market have OAK/NYJ and not MIA/SD?

    My god I hate the league’s TV contacts and the network’s decision.

  • SC Dave

    Disagree on the to last O bullet. The Oline was pwned the entire day.

    • poor job run blocking, good pass protection. But TB was keying in with so many bodies on the run, they basically had no chance.

      I wasn’t commenting on the OL. I was commenting on not moving their best young OL around.

      • BuddhaJoe

        What were they gonna do? They were stacking the box because they knew Glennon blows and by the looks of it they knew exactly what Birdcage was gonna do.

  • I really can’t overstate how pissed I am that the TB defense dropped that last INT.

    Now Fox can point to that TD as a reason to stick with Glennon instead of 4 TO being the dominant story.

    • BearDown100393

      Not playing Trubisky in the 2nd half indicts Fox in front of his players

      • Irish Sweetness

        Introducing Mitchell to that scenario would have been insane. Absolutely insane.

    • BerwynBomber

      Nah. Even Fox can’t sell that. He could idiotically start Glennon next week but I can’t believe he would base it on that last drive.

      More likely he’ll point back to the W1 4thQ.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Kizer had 4 TOs …

  • SC Dave

    And +one bazillion on last bullet about O

  • willbest

    Jets oakland? Jesus H. Who decides to put a playoff team against a tanking team on the national…

    • BerwynBomber

      Beat you to it (see below).

      I’m SERIOUSLY pissed. Our QB of nearly ten years is starting in his first game for a playoff contender and playing in a much better match-up and we’re getting … the fucking Jets and Raiders?????

      Absolutely mindless.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I at least have the DEN/DAL game, in central IL.

      • willbest

        I have it too, its on in background. I can’t believe I am jealous of Trevor Siemian

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I think I am jealous of their backup OZ.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fantasy gold. 6 TD passes in two weeks leads the NFL.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    anyone have a Dolphins feed?

    • 505Bears

      Cutler with the ball…2 completions

    • EnderWiggin

  • I’m not surprised, but I am pissed:

    “When asked if he would think about playing Trubisky next week, John Fox said: “No.”

    https://twitter.com/AdamHoge/status/909510507312316416

    • BearDown100393

      He has to be fired.

      • Bender McLugh

        Following orders

        • BearDown100393

          Fire him also

    • BerwynBomber

      SMH …

      … then fucking play Sanchize. I do NOT want to see anymore of Glennon.

      • Bender McLugh

        Yep

    • CanadaBear

      Foxy says a lot of things.

      • BearDown100393

        Senility

        • CanadaBear

          Can’t like that!

  • Ralph Martoni

    Hamp and OB are on FIRE!!!

  • willbest

    Alright, I can’t defend benching Trubisky anymore. Glennon has his shot. He was found wanting. Even if the WRs didn’t have 7 drops he was awful.

  • BearDown100393

    The Bears are not credible if Trubisky doesn’t start. And according to Fox, he won’t. This is the new league laughingstock.

    • JustSaying15

      Yep at least the Browns are going with Kizer and letting him develop. If you dont let Mitch play in mock up time then why is he even dressing?

      • BearDown100393

        Ask Fox and lapdog Pace. It is a joke.

        • JustSaying15

          You can thank the McCaskeys who insisted a young GM hire a experience

      • Irish Sweetness

        Kizer had 4 turnovers on Sunday. Develop away. How much did he learn from that? All good right?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      didn’t Fox talk to Jeff Fisher for advice on how to handle the QB situation…

  • JustSaying15

    Fact that Mitch didn’t take a snap in a blowout and instead let Napoleon get 300 meaningless yards should be a fireable offense. Today would been the perfect time to get Tribusky in. Nope he never warmed up.

    • BearDown100393

      George McCaskey double downed on backing these idiots this week. It begins with his family’s gross incompetence and drips downward.

    • BerwynBomber

      Exactly. I ran to the supermarket midway through the 3rd and when I got back I figured he would have Trisky in there for 4thQ mop up. But … nope.

      • JustSaying15

        Pace should be dressing Fox down over it.

        • madscout12

          Oh, boy. To be a fly on the wall. A fly on the wall.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Over what? Pace fucking hired him!!

  • SC Dave

    So data, are we #32 power ranking this week?

    #FoldForDarnold

  • “Seriously, we’re two weeks into the season and this team already looks lifeless”

    Zombiefied.

    I’m coining a new term. You know how we say “out foxed” to ascribe outwitting an opponent?

    Well, I submit the opposite: inFoxed

    Or just Foxed.

    Either will do

    #InFoxed
    #OneDumpFox
    #AlbinoLovie

    • CanadaBear

      Foxified!

    • BearDown100393

      Trestman and Fox are the worst back to back head coaching hires in NFL history

      • SC Dave

        I don’t know enough about NFL history to confirm, but I bet they are in the running

  • BearDown100393

    What was the point of drafting Shaheen?

    • madscout12

      Trying to diversify our weapons for the future. Howard, Cohen, and Shaheen, if they become who they look like are 3 of hopefully 5 players that can be used in all sorts of ways. And the most replaceable is Howard.

      Shaheen needs time and a QB/OC that will use the TE correctly/at all.

      • SC Dave

        Howard is good, and on a team that thinks they can win will be a star.

        All three can be good. We just need a HC.

        • madscout12

          Good zone blocking back without a whole lot of physical tools. He needs our stellar blocking up front, but he uses it superbly.

          There are a lot of guys you can get that will have better athleticism but worse zone reading. Depends on where the line is on which you go with.

          • SC Dave

            Fair enough. A coaching staff that adapts to the strength of the personnel is SUCH an advantage

        • Irish Sweetness

          But we don’t use him enough. Cohen is the new slut. And he cost us ….

      • Irish Sweetness

        Over LBs and protection for the QB?

        Weapon diversification .. .gotcha.

        “We pause now for Weapon diversification….”

    • Irish Sweetness

      This.

  • DaMurph

    Floyd ain’t gonna be there, he’s smaller than half the fucking wideouts in the game! He’s a lightweight that may make a play now and then but he’s not a difference maker every down as a player drafted that high should be. Glennon was a waste of fucking money! WTF Pace was thinking there I have no idea. I’m now questioning Pace as a viable GM, his drafting SUCKS! Unless Trubs is the next Brady, PACE will be gone!

    • I was initially VERY skeptical about the Floyd.

      There literally hasn’t been any one like him who has succeeded, someone with his frame (Mingo-lite)

      But he flashed his rook.

      I thought he was a Bruce Irvin type, a 3rd down pass rushing specialist, and nothing more (and we could’ve got Bruce Irvin off FA witth out wasting a 1st).

      Time will tell, but his sophomore campaign is bringing back my initially skepticism.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We have two players on defense and he’s one of them. Leonard Floyd does not need to be mentioned in the light of that loss.

  • beninnorcal

    Apologies to Jeff and Huge Bear Penis, for whatever the hell I was talking about last week. The only way this season will become watchable to me from this point, will be to watch Mitchell learn the game by playing. Sorry again, I’m no expert, just an overly-emotional, homer-fan.
    Cheers, boys..

    • SC Dave

      I was also hoping to see whether Kwiat woukd become a real player, but that looks sketchy now with an injury.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      No worries beninnorcal. We all put hope in an awful player at sometime or another.

  • SC Dave

    Of all, bullet 1 of Overall seems to fit the best. Even though we know its false.

  • EnderWiggin
  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    haha, OT field goal from AZ won me an 8 game parlay. it was all on the money line but it’s still an incredible feat. I think it was a 40 bagger.

    • SC Dave

      You are one lucky bitch

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        jes

  • Do we put Trub in even if Long, Sitton and Compton out of lineup next week?

    • willbest

      You mean you are afraid of him getting the Andrew Luck treatment? Quite frankly, I don’t know how you don’t put Trub in in that situation. Bonus is his Center, Gentry, Bellamy, and Thompson are his receivers.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        yep. thats who he has practiced and played the most with.

      • Yeah, one of the arguments for starting him right away was the ‘strong Oline/rub game/Dak” situation

        But the more cautious of us argued that we have NO idea what kinda team we are yet, as this game has proven, we’re FAR from the DAL template

        Our Oline is limping. Our run game is predictable and ineffective. we don’t have a Dez Bryant.

        Everyone thought our D could carry us, again, getting ahead of ourselves in PS. As I said, we’re dangerously thin (thanks Pace!) and we’ll likely be trailing in most games.

        I’m not sure that’s the ideal formula to insert a rook into, but with all that being said, Glennon can’t start.

        I would even be ok with Buttfumble starting over him at this point.

        • willbest

          Our predictable run game is the result of not throwing the ball more than 17 yards ever. If that is what we were going to do we really might as well paid hoyer $5 million or whatever the 9ers offered him.

          • Is not throwing deep because of Glennon or because of Wright being the #1 WR?

            Well, we SHOULD’VE kept Hoyer cuz we never got this type of meltdown from him. And could’ve used that $ to sign a real FA, but oh well…

            I’m curious what rational Fox will use to keep Glennon.

            Then again, gotte believe he’s going to be feeling the heat, and he may do what his buddy Fisher did. Start the rook to buy himself some time.

          • willbest

            Hoyer has those meltdowns on his resume though.

            And the problem is everybody on the Tampa D knew exactly what Glennon was from all the time they practiced with him. So there is your excuse.

          • SC Dave

            We SHOULD’VE kept Alshon

          • willbest

            He didn’t want to stay.

          • Scharfinator

            Poor guy would be hurt with the Bear’s trainers too.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Cutty, not Alshon.

        • willbest

          Also, everybody is dangerously thin in the NFL unless they have hit on multiple drafts or are a master of the dark arts.

        • BerwynBomber

          But the running game issues could be somewhat due to Glennon. Even Barkley and Hoyer were bigger threats to the opposing defense.

          As good as Cohen is, Howard might be having a hard time dealing with limited touches, not finding his rythym, etc.

          • SC Dave

            That, and the OL got their asses handed to them today.

          • Exactly. I saw little push by either O or D-line.

            The O-line was mixing and matching while the D-line was gassing out after 4 TOs in that heat.

        • SC Dave

          We have the worst WR corps in the NFL

          • madscout12

            Just after injuries or also before?

          • willbest

            Cam/Wheaton/Wright was passable assuming Cam didn’t regress or could continue to handle the extra attention. He would have had a 1000 yard season last year if they didn’t insist on White being the guy. Of course the second he went down it all went to shit. We had nobody defenses had to even consider double teaming.

          • Irish Sweetness

            What was wrong with them today?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Bellamy and Deonte did nothing wrong. Deonte manned up.

  • EnderWiggin

    Refs are hosing the Phins.

  • Malice Halice

    Currently watching the bears game. The INT was bad but the Rookie mistake was pretty fucked up. Mike Evans so far seems unstoppable. But our D is still alive. I just don’t understand how we lost

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      just turn it off, there is absolutely nothing to look forward to after that game.

      • Malice Halice

        I have to see this. 3TO by the early 2nd qtr. yet it still seem like there’s hope left.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          it is unnecessary torture to continue watching.

        • You’re better off smashing your balls with a mallet for 3 hours.

  • willbest

    Cutler is doing a better Glennon than Glennon. 9/10 for 55 yards

    • madscout12

      No TOs! He’s playing fine!

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Gase calling plays like Birdcage. No risk, no reward except for first drive.

        • madscout12

          Don’t care. Feed Ajayi and thus my fantasy team.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Glennon Sucks! Wait, is that not well informed for some of you? Do i need to explain further?

    • willbest

      Hoyer Sucked, then he played the best 4 games of his life as a Bear and people were all “he isn’t too bad”. Also, there had to be a reason we paid him $18 million. Like Loggains and the QB coach, and the talent scouts, had to put some fucking reason down on paper.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I was not one of those people on Hoyer.

      • BerwynBomber

        But Hoyer had a much larger sample size of pre-Bears play than Glennon. In other words, his #s were more indicative of who he was.

        Glennon’s were an apparent mirage.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          not if you watched Glennon’s small sample size. His stats in TB were inflated by garbage time jump balls to Vincent Jackson.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I doubt many DBBers ever saw Glennon play much. TB wasn’t exactly on island games in his rookie year.
            Did you watch him much? Hell, most I had ever seen of his was this preseason. By a mile.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I watched more than several of his games with TB, mainly because I had FF players. It wasn’t pretty. There was many reasons he road the bench twice, once for McCown and once for Winston.

          • BerwynBomber

            Anyway, I leaned Trisky after seeing Glennon (and the rook himself) in the preseason. But now I see no justification for Glennon (where I could before).

            If Fox is unwilling throw a rook out there this early than throw Sanchez in the mix. Sanchez sucks too, but he can occasionally provide the positive Barkley moments. I’d rather give him a shot than see Glennon again.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Totally agree on the Sanchez point. I don’t want to see Glennon again.

          • Johnnywad

            Same here. Read his stats. Thought “Okay. Fine. Could definitely be worse. Let’s see what happens.”

            But holy shit. He sucks really bad.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Not really, Gummo was 5-13 before he got here – he is exactly who we thought he was, all except Ryan Pace. Pace decided that was worth 18M when Cutty was into us for about 13.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I miss Josh McCown.

  • That Guy

    “I told Mitchell after the game that he was going to be the starter next week. We wanted to bring him along slowly, to make sure he got time to learn fundamentals and get used to the pro game, but at this point, his capabilities and potential just make it more logical to have him learn on the field. It won’t always be pretty, and we aren’t expecting him to play at a Pro Bowl level, but we do expect him to get better week after week.

    We’ve been bitten hard by the injury bug, but even still, we think we can win some games and be competitive in the division. But to accomplish that, we need some wholesale changes. Starting Mitchell is one significant change; we can and probably will make some more, as circumstances dictate.”

    -Bizarro John Fox

    • SC Dave

      Nice fantasy.

  • willbest

    Jay’s 2-minute drill is so far uninspiring. At least from the play by play since nobody wants me to watch Rogaine commercials in order to see the game.

  • willbest

    A timeout after an incomplete pass, who is calling the plays Tice?

  • madscout12

    Wow…that throw looked like Cutty’s arm is gone.

    • willbest

      Yes that was very unCutler like.

  • Malice Halice

    I’m just watching bears players drop like flies. What is wrong with this team?

    • willbest

      Lead in the drinking water.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      they are faking injuries so they don’t have to play with Glennon at QB.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ask Jason George, Rick Perry and Pierre Ngo. Your Strength and Conditioning Coaches.

  • SC Dave

    For. God’s. Fucking. Sake!

    Can ANYTHING be harder than being a Bears fan?

    • Malice Halice

      Yea this 1st half is horrible

    • willbest

      Cold fusion?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      trying to get an erection when you got whiskey dick?

    • willbest

      I went through the kitchen cabinets and pulled out all the glassware we
      haven’t used in over a decade and smashed it in the recycling bin. I
      felt better.

    • beninnorcal

      It is our curse.

    • ButtonShoes

      I was gonna say “being a Browns fan,” but now I’m not so sure.

      • Irish Sweetness

        10 ‘super bowls’ in a row, 7 wins – one of the winningest organizations in the AFL.

  • Big Mike

    Trestmanesque edfort

  • ButtonShoes

    OK, NOW does everyone agree that John Fox needs to be fucking fired ASAP? Sweet Jesus I am tired of this. I can take Trubisky losing games like this because at least he’d be learning. He’s the future, right? So let’s see if he can do anything. What can Mike Glennon learn other than how to be a loser anymore than he already is? If this team is to have any kind of fucking future this season or
    ever, Ryan Pace needs to pull his head out of his ass, stop kissing the asses of the McCaskeys for one second and do his goddamn job, and if he can’t do that, then he should just do himself a favor ahead of time and fire his own ass so someone with half a brain can come in, do the obvious and FIRE FOX.

    • beninnorcal

      Nice post, completely agree.

    • BearDown100393

      Pace at best is a JAG GM

    • Irish Sweetness

      John Fox?? What has he got to do with ANY of this? Pace has not provided the team with a roster and I’m, STILL amazed at his second round pick this year.

      • ButtonShoes

        Oh I don’t want Pace either. But I think it’s pretty obvious that John Fox has no idea what he’s doing. Fox is the low hanging fruit you can go after and get rid of. Getting rid of Pace is going to take more work, since it seems that everyone is giving this guy a long leash that he doesn’t deserve based on his current performance. Too many Bears fans treat Pace like he’s Theo Epstein or Stan Bowman, and I don’t know why.

  • madscout12

    Da Destroya 7/11 for 38 yds and an INT
    Cutty being Cutty with 15/20 for 115 and a TD
    Joshy Football 8/11 for 82 and a TD

  • BuddhaJoe

    There was no fucking reason not to bench Glennon after the first half after making Cutler look like an All Pro. Then they wouldn’t even put Trub in during garbage time just to get him reps, what in the Holy Fuck was that?!?! That kind of horseshit should cost a lot of people their jobs, but of course it won’t. Guess I’ll be hiking in the woods a lot on Sundays this year.

    • SC Dave

      Grab a backpack, hit the AT, and disappear for a couple of weeks. It was good for me.

    • They now that there’s no going back once Trubisky enters the game.

      Why they’re so concerned about that is beyond me. Why would you want to stick with this?

      • willbest

        Because if Trubisky sucks now, Pace is going to get canned along with Fox.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You want to bring Mitch into a game he’s losing by 26 points, with a LB that is having his way with Massie all day?

  • BuddhaJoe

    The front 7 is pretty good but they clearly gave up. They have a good running game but with Glennon they have ZERO deep threat and Tampa was stacking the box so they Howard/Cohen couldn’t do shit. Either Loggains, Fox, or Pace needs to be canned for that shit. Cinci was smart and canned their OC after week two.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    it´s strating to look “trestmanesque” this season, need strart the rooky or kick fox´s ass out of chicago right now. or both

  • madscout12

    Down by one, 3 min to go. Cutty time.

    • willbest

      The play-by-play reads like he forgot how to do a 2-minutes drill.

      • madscout12

        They ran the ball. My fantasy team thanks them.

        • willbest

          well its going to (did) cost them the game

          • madscout12

            Miami called a Timeout?!?!?!? WTF?

          • willbest

            Rivers was going to spike it with 1 second left.

          • willbest

            They wanted the chance to field the return

          • They got totally bailed out by Koooooo

  • Hoya toe to toe with Wilson against Legion of Boom IN SEA

    9-6.

    He hit a guy in stride in the redzone and dude just dropped it.

    • Johnnywad

      That Seattle team was WILDLY overrated to begin the season.

      • Their O is anemic, and they’re D is getting RUN OVER by Hyde and some rook RB

        • Johnnywad

          That said, I’d kill for the Bears to be that good.

  • Lol the Kurse of Koooo

  • Nobody loses in more heartbreaking fashion than the Chargers.

    Nobody.

  • madscout12

    Cutty looks good in victory formation.

    Remember when the Seachickens were said to be the best team in the NFC? LOL.

  • willbest

    I have to hand it to Gase’s presence of mind on that timeout. I thought what the hell is he doing, because it could give rivers 1 shot at the endzone before they try an FG. But the chargers being risk adverse kicked it instead. If they made it, Pace would have at least had a chance in hell return for points. And the chargers went and missed it anyway.

    • Gase wanted a last hail mary chance with Cutler.

      If the Chargers make the FG that takes like 3-4 seconds off the clock, so they would be down to 6 secs top.

      The Chargers likely do that pooch K which would’ve taken another 3-4 secs.

      Then Cutler would’ve had like 1 sec to heave it 80 yds, which I guess is better than no chance?

      Koo missed it anyways.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Fins need to clean up their execution from the 35yd line in. Could have curb stomped the Chargers but kicked way too many field goals.

        • It took Gase last yr like 4 games to finally figure out Ajayi was good.

          Sometimes he makes me scratch my head.

          As long as they ride Ajayi and take calculated shots to Landry and corps, think they have a chance every week (except vs Pats).

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            Gase got too conservative in and near the red zone.

          • willbest

            In Gase’s defense he just told his team to accept an injury prone, TO prone QB as their starting QB a week before the season started. He probably was developing trust between Cutler and the rest of the team. Plus the Fins are on a 16 week straight run of football. Taking it slow is probably ideal.

        • SC Dave

          Is “curb stomped” an American History X reference?

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            It could definitely need applied in this case. Wayyyyyy too many field goals.

  • willbest

    Bless the NFL for the Atlanta v. GB game tonight. It should be plenty watchable.

    • BearDown100393

      May Rodgers IR

      • willbest

        Good lord no. You know how much time he would have for commercials if he was on IR.

        • madscout12

          Not til week 16, after he throws for a ton of yards and tds and loses every game.

      • ButtonShoes

        Seriously. I hope they turn him into a human punching bag all game. Sack after sack after sack after sack. And then another sack of that jackass, just for good measure.

        • willbest

          I know the Falcon’s sacked Glennon 4 times, but he is a statue. That is usually when Rodgers rolls out and hit Nelson 25 yards down the sideline.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Boys, you’ll get a good laugh out of this. I won an 8 game parlay this morning on all of the early games. I then caught the first 2 series of the Fins/Chargers game and felt that Chargers were going to pass all over the fins today. I put the house on the Chargers and the Korean kicker fooked me. I lost it all. Haha, fucking NFL.

    CUTTY you bastard!!!

  • BearDown100393

    McCaskeys do not care about Bears fans. They only cater to the meatheads with ’85 inked on their collective rear ends who pay to watch this crap at Soldier Field year after year. Raise rates and shovel out manure to be shoved down our throats. They are trust fund fools taking the fan base for fools. The Bears sit indifferent with a lot of Chicago right now just like the twilight of Dollar Bill’s Blackhawks.

  • S should’ve just let Pryor score at that point

  • willbest

    9ers almost blew their tanking season.

    • They were up 9-6 with like 6 mins left in SEA.

      Everyone thought they would get blown out

      The 9ers IMO have the least talented team in the NFL.

      The Jets at least have good D talent .

      It’s crazy to think it was that close.

      SEA usu starts slow, but wow, how could anyone still believe they’re the NFC fav?

      Tonight will tell us a lot about what NFC team is going to be primed.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Seattle was a key component to my late game parlay…which I won.

      • SC Dave

        Division rivalry.

  • CanadaBear

    I’m OK with Glennon starting next week because the Steelers could ruin everyone’s season if MT is playing. I’d rather risk MG. Other than that, play the kid!

  • willbest

    Steelers open 7.5 point favorites at Soldier Field. I think I would want at least 10.5 to bet on the Bears.

    • EnderWiggin

      Roethlisberger? More like Fiftyberger.

  • madscout12

    LOL:

    PROBLEM: Chicago Bears got smoked by the BucsSOLUTION: pic.twitter.com/1s2E8Arp6H— Bus, the Art Guy. (@BillionBus) September 17, 2017

  • BearDown100393

    McCaskey/Pace/Fox demonstrating why Mitch grew up a Packers fan.

    • Though his fav player was Sweetness.

      And Lebron over Jordan

    • BearDown100393

      Next Sunday will be even more epic

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Ever a take crap so BIG your pants fit better?” – Ron ” ‘Tater Salad” White.

    Think the Bears pants fit better this evening?

    I gave up very early in the 4th.

    I thought that was extremely nice of me since the Bear coaching staff seemed to give up at half time.

  • As if one can’t make fun of Koo even more, I just read that his first name is….

    [guess}

    ….
    >>
    ???

    Younghoe

  • Derek Price

    As a long tin Bears fan living in Sydney, I can tell the tale of 2 professional teams that have emerged from a period of poor results
    They did it by hiring a young, hungry coach and an experienced no nonsense GM to oversee the transition
    Both teams made the playoffs in 2 years from th prior disasters, seems from a distance the mix of control is wrong to get a turnaround at the Bears. A younger coach is needed with newer ideas and a young coach prepared to change it up and allow,the younger players to gain experience in an invigorated and changing line up. This does not appear the case with a coach unwilling to take a chance.
    Certainly some fresh ideas in strength and conditioning under a younger coach would help

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ryan Pace is tasked with the job of putting bodies on the roster. That’s what I’m looking at now.

      John Fox didn’t throw any interceptions yesterday, and he didn’t muff a punt. A professional talent evaluator.

      Unfortunately he’ll get a break because he picked one of two QBs, both of whom are good (although he still managed to trade up for the kid that SF was never drafting (if they wanted a QB they would have stayed put … or drafted Watson after us).

      You want to fire coaches, start with :

      Jason George
      Head Strength and Conditioning Coach

      Rick Perry
      Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach

      Pierre Ngo
      Assistant Strength and Conditioning Coach

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Fox is responsible for us coming out flat every game he has coached here.

  • Derek Price

    To illustrate , one was the Sydney Kings basketball team, hired Andrew Gaze as coach and appointed a hard nosedbusiness exec as GM. The other was a professional rugby league team, after years of board turmoil, actually appointed an experienced administrator and gave a young coach the reins, despite a salary cap disaster last year where they were docked points and players, rebuilt the roster and made the playoffs this year

  • Irish Sweetness

    Arden Key in the draft? 6’6, 265lbs.

    That was a short season, eh?

    Ryan Pace, boys. Don’t blame Mikey. What in thee fuck was he doing getting rid of Cutty … to pay this prick more? Where’s the roster to see this season through?

  • That Kevin King guy looks pretty good.

    But we didn’t have a chance to draft him, I’m sure.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Kevin or Des? Don’t forget Obi and Budda.

  • Johnnywad

    Who the hell are the Bears? This Falcons team looks legit and they just took them to the wire a week ago. Today they were a steaming pile of shot.

    The division is wide open. Packers look soft. Vikings are gonna blow. I assumed the Lions would Lion. I may have been wrong. They may be the best team in the division.

    I don’t even know what to begin to think. All I know is I’m not wasting my time on another Glennon game. I got shit to do.

    • BearDown100393

      Answer:
      They are who we thought they were.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      we played ATL in week 1. Offenses start slow. They just got their shit together

  • Johnnywad

    I hope this drive blows up on the Packers. I want to see Rodgers bitching up a storm

    • AlbertInTucson

      There you go.

      • Johnnywad

        I wanted a safety. But this is a nice consolation prize. That receiver totally screwed Rodgers

        • AlbertInTucson

          Truffaut had that covered. Allison was never open.

          • Johnnywad

            Perhaps. But he might have at least made an incompletion of it.

    • Johnnywad

      Hahahaha. Yeah. Like that

  • beninnorcal

    How bout that Packer D?

  • I could see that coming from a mile awway

  • beninnorcal

    They’ve already given up more points to Atl in one half than we did in a whole game.

    • beninnorcal

      Of course, we gave up 26 in a half today, but not sure you could pin it all on our D.

      • AlbertInTucson

        20 of that was the direct result of turnovers.

        • beninnorcal

          Agreed, but so were those last 7 points for Atl, I guess.

    • Falcons just came out flat first game.

      • beninnorcal

        I gave us some credit. Im sure things would’ve been different if it was in Atl, like this.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The Soldier Field Turf helps slow/equalize things.

  • BearDown100393

    Grimace ’bout to have a heart attack.

    • AlbertInTucson

      How funny would it be to see him rack up another flag and be excused from the game…?

  • I bet the refs didn’t even know about the 1 yd pick rule

    • BearDown100393

      Grimace about to Veruca Salt himself.

      • BearDown100393

        Damn wrong one. Violet Beauregarde.

  • lol nothing like drawing your own dudes offside.

    Vadgers trying for that free vadgers trap

    • AlbertInTucson

      I like the one where the Ref told him “Sorry, but you DO have to wait for us zebras.”.

  • DaMurph

    23.2 QBR today and Fox sticking with the giraffe? WTF!

    • BearDown100393

      It is all part of the plan…….

      To go 0-3.

      • It’s part of the plan to get Trub the #1WR next draft

        • BearDown100393

          Pace must have got a hot tip of a Division II wideout with Rickets disease.

          • Johnnywad

            LOL. The Rickets.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Arden Key, please. Floyd Pt. II.

    • Where does it say Fox sticking with Glennon?

      He’s out the door anyways, so he doesn’t give a shit.

      • BearDown100393

        He said it during the post game wake.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s an improvement on last week, right?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Another bunch of pretty low scoring games this week including too many teams in the single digits.

  • AlbertInTucson

    That WAS an awful offensive P.I. call on the Packers.

    Too bad.

  • AlbertInTucson

    THAT was entertaining, even if they call it back.

    • madscout12

      I hate Rogers, but that was forward and helmet to helmet.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I didn’t say it was legal or the right call, just that I WAS entertained.

        • Johnnywad

          Two bad calls AGAINST the Packers???? The tide appears to be turning.

      • That makes it sweeter.

  • Let’s see if Goodell calls them to overturn it

    • AlbertInTucson

      Roger is off pouting because Jerra’s trying to muck up Goodell’s new deal.

  • beninnorcal

    Best game of the day.

  • beninnorcal

    But recent history tells us that the Falcons can still blow it.

  • Dontari Poe up the middle.
    He wasn’t available this FA either!

    Beasley with the vicious finish.

    But we have White!

  • That was a great time for a screen.

    It also got Vadgers pounded.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He is taking a pounding.

  • AlbertInTucson

    The injuries, league wide, just continue to mount.

  • AlbertInTucson

    It’s coming back, Pack.

  • madscout12

    The beautiful thing about this game is that Atlanta’s first options have worked. Sanu, Jones, and the running game have killed them. Not the case against us. They had to go to the bleaping tight end to beat us. He hasn’t had a catch this whole game.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I believe Hooper has at least 2 catches.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Another gold star for Allison.

    • madscout12

      The look on Grimace’s face.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Priceless.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yo, Geronimo, when you put out your forearm, it makes the call real easy for the zebra.

  • Puke without illegal pick plays = suckage

  • AlbertInTucson

    Whoop da baby!

  • AlbertInTucson

    Yes, Al, this is NOT the time to piss away points.

  • madscout12

    Fucking should have played Carr instead of Vadgers…the little voice in my head kept saying it.

    But still, enjoying seeing his soul sucked out of him in this game. The dead look in his eyes. Beautiful.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He could still rack up some garabage time points for you.

      • madscout12

        Other guy has Ryan, Freeman, Cobb, and Bryant (K). Need some INTs from Ryan.

        • madscout12

          Christ on a cracker, another 50+. I’m proper fucked.

        • AlbertInTucson

          That doesn’t sound promising for you.

          I should have played Oakland kicker instead of Dallas.

          Hindsight is always 20/20.

    • BerwynBomber

      Carr at home facing the NYJ. And Rodgers on the road facing ATL. And you took Rodgers?

      Crazy …

      • madscout12

        I know I know. But I thought shoot out, and Rogers doesn’t turn it over. Well he did, and I paid for it. Only a 3 point difference.

        • BerwynBomber

          Guess I could see the logic, but yes, one team (Jets) might go 0-16 and the other (Birds) might return to the SB. Plus, the home/away factor.

          Ok, I’ll STFU now.

  • ATL better be aware of onside here.

    Vadgers is almost TOO precise for his receivers.

    They need to follow the Pat’s blueprint of using a bunch of small little WRs who run routes like robots.

  • madscout12

    Damn it, throw it to Julio!

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      no- run it. I am going up against Ryan in FF. I don’t need him scoring anymore.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
  • AlbertInTucson

    FF Post




    Nobody still active in my matchup today which we won 32-27.

    1-1.

    Gronk (Hammy…?)says he’s “fine” but, I dunno.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • AlbertInTucson

      Well, I feel SO much better, now.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        just trying to help.

        • madscout12

          Is this rock bottom? I think he can get worse.

          • ButtonShoes

            It’s the Bears. Of course he can get worse.

  • madscout12

    FF Post




    Yea, garbage time points!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Told ya!

      FF gold!

      • madscout12

        I think the Falcons should go back to Julio. Probably shouldn’t run the ball. Unless it is with Coleman (he’s on his bench).

    • AlbertInTucson

      And more!

  • BerwynBomber

    My god the Cheese look horrible, even Rodgers. I laugh at these Power Rankings that have them completely over-ranked because of one guy every year.

    They still have their smelly Capers D, a converted WR at RB, and their skilled guys aren’t all that. Decent/solid but nothing even near ATL’s.

    Could this be the year Rodgers finally looks mortal? Who knows. But from top to bottom this is not a very good team and hasn’t been for a number of years.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Rodgers will get his groove back after he plays us, he always does.

      • BerwynBomber

        He seems to come on strong later in the year. No doubt.

        But I still don’t think the team is very good.

    • madscout12

      You know how this goes.

      They tank a few up front losing to good teams.

      Then Vadgers plays like a man on fire down the stretch against a shit load of mediocrity.

      Then they make the playoffs and are soundly defeated in the Divisional or CC game.

      • BerwynBomber

        I don’t know about that. He has played damn well against the very best late in the year, even in their playoff losses. But he has been stumbling early in the season the last few years.

  • AlbertInTucson

    John Fox’s Bears record: 9-25

    Abe Gibron’s Bears record: 11-30-1

    • BerwynBomber

      Preach!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Everything old is… OLD again.

  • BerwynBomber

    Nice outing by Cutty, btw. Solid, Gaseian stuff.

    MIA is legit. They have a young stud RB, quality WRs who can truly stretch the field, a solid D, and a competent, veteran starter in Cutty. Plus, two of their three divisional opponents might be bottom of the league.

    Man, did we fuck up losing Gase.

    • I wanted to promote Gase and dump Fox.

      Was kinda hoping that was the long term plan all along, but of course it wasn’t.

      Not saying Gase is Bill 2.0 but he’s not worse than Fox.

      Also, I don’t really buy MIA. They BARELY won.

      Cutler got them into FG range starting from the 40. And they still had to make a 54 yd FG.

      Meanwhile, Koo missed another more or less chip-shot and is going to go back to Dance Dance Revolution.

      • BerwynBomber

        What impresses me about Gase — even when he was an OC here — is that he seems to know how to manage a game to give his team the best chance to win.

        Even setting aside the fact that he micro-managed Cutty to his best year ever, the guy went 10-6 and earned a post-season spot in his rookie HC year with a combination of Tannenhill and Matt Moore.

        He might pretty quickly prove that he is a top 10 HC.

        • That’s why I wanted to keep him. And in spite of ppl thinking I always hated Cutler, why I understood bringing Cutler back last season given other options.

          Gase turns Cutler into Alex Smith, and maybe that’s what it takes, even though that probably pisses off Cutler fans lol

          • willbest

            I have zero problem with an OC limiting what Cutler is bad at while the upside reward isn’t necessary. That is what a good General does. He fights the war with the army he has, not the army he wants.

          • madscout12

            You and I both saw the game. Those running plays at the end were conservative, but a turnover would have ended the game.

            When they needed it, Gase let Cutler sling it. He put him in favorable matchups all game. And it is a credit that they won because I think Rivers played much better than Cutty.

          • willbest

            I read the play-by-play. I didn’t actually get to see the game because CBS thought I would rather see Oakland beat up on the Jets. Somebody mentioned Cutty didn’t look like he had his arm of a couple years ago.

          • madscout12

            That was me. Deep Hail Mary at the half looked like David Fales threw it. It wobbled about 25 yards and fell out of bounds.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Inventing ‘facts’? David Fales has a great long ball. It was the best on the Bears anyway. He threw some beautiful long ones in Miami. Leave him out of it.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            his robo thumb failed him. When he broke it he got the pins put in while he was holding a football to try to come back for the playoffs if Hanie got us a victory, at the time they said it would certainly end in arthritis doing that. Then he stretched those ligaments again when he got hurt last year. Maybe he lost some thumb strength. I’ve noticed that when he really tries to fire it the balls wobbles.

          • Yeah, but those “cutty” throws almost got INTed. Verret (I think) was all over Parker, and the other one was also contested.

            Like the 50-50 throws he chucked to Bmarsh or Alshon. Sometimes they pay off, other times they don’t.

            But Gase does seem to keep him from throwing them at whim.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s clear now, dropping Cutty was a dumb-ass move, to then replace him with a more expensive QB (a) who is shit and (b) doesn’t know the playbook ?

        • ButtonShoes

          Imagine what Gase could potentially do with Trubisky. It just depresses the hell out of me to think about it.

          • BerwynBomber

            Exactly. That is why I have been thinking about Gase more this year than last.

            The potential molding of Trubisky.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It was San Diego, er, Los Angeles. That’s how the Chargers lose to EVERYBODY.

        • madscout12

          It was LA.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, heard there were more MIA fans there than SD. Pretty pathetic.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Koo, Koo, Cachoo.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Man, did we fuck up losing Cutty. At least Cutty could have taught Mitch something. All Gummo can teach is how to maximize your earning potential versus your skill. He’s a genius at that.

  • AlbertInTucson

    These running into the kicker penalties need to be tacked on to the end of the punts.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I agree. It should at least be an option.

      • willbest

        If the whole nonsense with the Kickoffs is to be believed then it should be mandatory seeing as how sprinting down the field at your opponent who is sprinting the other way is deemed undesirable.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Jeff Bridges for Lyft?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I hate Lyft like I hate Uber.

      Scam business models.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Fox’s post game presser was insulting.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I did not watch it. but my guess is he said ‘We had a great week of practice. We did not execute when we could have, and Glennon is the starter next week.’

      • madscout12

        No. Basically negated what everyone with eyes could see.

        “I’d say that loss is not on the QB.”

    • I just heard.

      Yes it was.

    • madscout12

      If he wasn’t just such a pompous ass, then I’d feel for him a bit. He’s in a tough situation. There are several things that could be going on…

      1. He’s just stubborn, and thinks he was right about not playing a rook, despite all the evidence to the contrary.

      2. Pace doesn’t want him to play the rook, because if he sucks, Pace is out the door too. Fox is done at the end of the season, and doesn’t want to look like he won’t play ball.
      3. Mitch really isn’t ready.

      There are ways to handle each (except being a pompous ass).

      2: We’ve determined as an organization that starting Mitch this season is not in our longterm interests. Stay patient, we’ve got a plan for him. We know the product might not be what you want and there will be ups and downs, but it is for the best.

      3: The results on the field speak for themselves. Mike Glennon didn’t produce today, and that’s not acceptable. Other guys had problems, but we need Mike to be better and not turn the ball over. But, if you had seen what I’ve seen in practice and in the game tape, you’d know that Mitch has a lot to learn before playing in this league. We want to set him up for success, and now is not the time.

      Both of the above are total bull, but still honest. You don’t have to insult the fans and media when they saw what was on the field today.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Mitch really isn’ t ready”.

        Neither, based on today, is Glennon

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          BTW all those years sitting on the bench has made Glennon such a great QB.

          • madscout12

            Yeah…gotta love a QB with great physical skills, a rocket arm, pinpoint accuracy in the pocket and on the run, and speed. He’s just not experienced enough to start. So we’re going to fix that by not getting him experience.

        • madscout12

          Like I said at the end…all total bull, but an honest take.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Pace was as honest as a GM could be in this business at the outset of training camp. He said something to this effect

        “We would like to see Trub’s development happen behind the scenes this year.”

        That is as clear an indication he could give that they would not like to play him unless injuries force them to play him.

        Now given how badly Glennon shit the bed, they might have to accelerate the plan a bit. I still do no think Trub plays week 3 and 4. Why?

        I think they will bring back the injured players in week 4 against Pack. Long, Wheaton and Amukamara won’t play against Steelers too because then we play the pack on 3 days rest and those three will not be able to go again on short week. So they will play them against the pack then get 10 rest before we play queens on MNF in Week 5. That will be ample time to get Trub ready too.

        So my guess is Trub takes over as starter week 5.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Pace was honest? He wasn’t even honest with his HC.

          If they’re tanking, they’re not bringing in Mitchell.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Here’s the thing with Mitch – we saw him against scrub defenses (yet our receiving scrubs are probably better than most teams). He looked great, mostly.

        Glennon looked great in patches yesterday. Kizer had 4 TOs too, do we want that for Mitch?

  • Must be nice having real WRs.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      and a real QB.

      • willbest

        real coach, ILBs, DBs, owners, etc. Oh well, at least our turf is real.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Yes. REAL bad.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m wondering how many teams Sinu would be the #1 on. Even decent receiving corps like GB’s, Sinu might be the #1.

      ATL is loaded.

      • Heck, Sinu might be #1 on the Puke given how many WRs they lost tonight.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’d probably take Sinu over Nelson at his point in the latter’s career.

      • willbest

        How much of that is being opposite of Julio though?

        Like Jeffery exploding across from Marshall. That being said, at least he can catch the ball.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Sanu might be the best QB on our roster if we had him.
        career stats: 5/5 177 yards 2 TDs 0 INTs

      • Irish Sweetness

        I broached the idea of picking him up in the off-season and he was a useless cunt and a nobody to all concerned. (shrugs)

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Sanu on artificial turf is fucking dangerous.

    • ButtonShoes

      We had them once upon a time. Then we got a GM who thought it was a good idea to get rid of all of them and replace them with garbage.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Deonte isn’t real? Bellamy? Kendall sucks? He caught the same number of passes as Mike Evans!

  • That is REALLY ballsy.

    Two passes.

    I know they’re up by two scores, but that’s the same shit that lost them a SB

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, but Cheese are nowhere near the team the Pats are. Plus, the Pats D pretty much shut down the Birds the last quarter and a half.

      No way GB’s D is capable of doing that.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Tick, tick, tick…

  • AlbertInTucson

    Don’t DOWN that punt, stupid. Let it roll around with the clock running until the zebras BLOW it dead.

  • madscout12

    FF
    ~
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    ~
    What’s the over under on Golden Tate scoring 15?

    • Is it PPR?

      If it is, decent chance. 75%

      If not, 50%

      The interesting guy is Galladay who might vulture some stats

      • madscout12

        Standard.

        Galladay is on my bench.

        • It’s hard to predict which one the Loins are going to go off, esp since Lesbo throws it to his HBs a lot too, but Tate seems like his safe blanket

        • Irish Sweetness

          Tampa have a guy that’s going to go off. Chris Godwin?

      • madscout12

        Sitting 91.02 to 74.58 with him having Golden Tate to play.

        • You’re stuck in the unenviable position of rooting the Lions get up early.

          • madscout12

            The way the Giants played, that may not be a problem.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            i am in the same place. I got Fat lesbo as QB. down 14pts and they got Abdullah playing.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Great hit on Rodgers

    • beninnorcal

      Not sure what the hell he was doing there.

  • FF

    Aaaaaand it looks like I’m pulling off the upset.

    In spite of Brady dropping 40, and Brees racking up garbage stats, looks like I’m beating Willie (Vanilli) by 2 points.

    His Zeke killed him. 2 points
    Then again I started Howard instead of Quizz like a sentimental idiot.

    2-0 baby.

    Sac went gonzo with CJ Anderson and Crabtree

    • Irish Sweetness

      I had Crabtree and Davante Adams EVERYWHERE. Hopefully Jordy does his usual disappearing trick.

      Anyone think Cohen is killing Howard?

  • ButtonShoes

    Well at least the Peckers are going to lose. And Randall Cobb is hurt. Good stuff. Also, Fuck you, Aaron Rodgers.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Tirico, Dungy, Seattle’s offense is lame.Atlanta’s is not.

    • BerwynBomber

      Actually SEA has some nice O parts. But they arguably have the worst OLine in the league. Hence, the Cheese’s pass rush last week.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Gronk.

    Groin, not hammy.

    Not good in either case.

    • Wow.
      The crazy part is that NBIT got BOTH Gronk and Olsen in the draft, and I thought he was cray cray.

      Now, they BOTH go down.

      That’s an extra FF kick in the nads.

      • madscout12

        Better if they are both undroppable.

        • Haha. Didn’t even think about that.

          I’m almost positive Gronk is. Olsen might be borderline.

          We do have one IR slot though, but still, rough. At least Gronk went out with a bang. Olsen went out with a whimper

  • BerwynBomber

    So is Ryan truly elite now? His first eight years he was only “good” … an average 92 PR with only one season above 95.

    But now he looks like he is picking up where he left off last year during his MVP year. Hard to tell if he has elevated his game that much or he is just surrounded by talent that is the envy of the league.

    • madscout12

      Amazing what talent all over the football team can do for a QB. Baller WR corps. Very good running game. Good Oline. Serviceable fast defense with playmakers.

      • BerwynBomber

        I thought coming into this year that ATL, NE and DAL were the three best teams in the league.

        But yeah, ATL is about as complete as the NFL gets these days and that O is truly frightening. Julio is probably working on an HoF resume.

        • madscout12

          Week 2.

          What was Atlanta in week 2 last year? 0-2

          • BerwynBomber

            Of course, way early. Hell, MIN looked like the NFC team to beat last year for almost the first half of the season.

          • madscout12

            It was glorious putting an end to that. Cutty’s last stand.

    • willbest

      Unless he keeps it up for another 5 years, and wins at least 1 SB he isn’t going to Canton.

      • BerwynBomber

        Oh I know that. But still wondering how much of this last year plus is him and how much is supporting cast. Unknowable for now, I suppose.

    • BearDown100393

      He’s better than Giraffe.

      • BerwynBomber

        Sanchez is better than Giraffe.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Clausen might be better than Giraffe.

    • It’s both.
      Same with Lesbo.
      For years him and Cutler were in the same “tier” but like Ryan he’s obviously taken it to the next level.

      OC + Weapons. = better

      • BerwynBomber

        See, I tend to think Pie Face is mostly about Pie Face, well except the Jim Bob wrinkle. But even taking that into account, Pie Face no longer has Megatron and still no rushing attack.

        So to me … that’s clearly Stafford taking a step forward.

        Ryan, I”m just not sure. Historically, it’s kinda my thing with Jim Kelly too.

        • Before Julio and that OC (forgot his name), Ryan was just Flacco level.
          But now he won MVP and SHOULD’VE won the SB.

          I know you like to believe that somehow great players pull themselve up from their bootstraps, but there’s really only like 1-2 truly GREAT QBS in the NFL at a time, and the rest are GREATLY helped by good OCs + Weapons.

          Lesbo does NOT take that next step with out Jim Bob, and no doubt Mega was better, but his team is way more well rounded now.

          Now he has 3 real weapons to spread it around plus a better Oline and HBs.

          That’s why he’s no longer in the Cutler tier not because he somehow transfigured.

          Happens all the time . How else can you explain Warner?

          • BerwynBomber

            But neither Stafford or Ryan are great. They are not tracking toward the HoF.
            And yes I still believe that great QBs (Brady, Brees, Rodgers) would be great regardless of the team they are on, just that, say, in Brady’s case he would not duplicate the team accomplishments with any other than the Pats.

            And yes, I still don’t buy the Rodgers needed to sit two years business or he would not have been great. Rodgers sat because he had a HoF QB in front of him. Period. Stop.

            Yes, top-tier NFL talent has obviously helped Dak. But I still think Dak would eventually been Dak. He looks that good to me. Passes the eye test. Is he destined for greatness? Too early to tell but he should be a top half of the league guy w/out much problem.

            Ryan was only a bit above average for … eight years. That’s a long time. And now he is suddenly elite. So I don’t know how that would ever go against my theory anyway. All I was talking about were guys like Brady, Brees and Rodgers (and maybe Wilson).

            And btw, Stafford had a pretty damn good year last year with a crappy Oline and no rushing attack. JimBob I’m sure has helped but they were hardly DAL or ATL in terms of a supporting cast.

          • Irish Sweetness

            FWIW, Flacco just threw an NFL record-equaling interception in his 8th straight game.

          • SC Dave

            My recollection of Warner was that he was unbelievably accurate. Like nothing I had ever seen before.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Jim was in 4 SBs in a row, and had an amazing career. Meg and Pieface? We’ll see when they’re done.

  • willbest

    It feels like injuries are up across the league this year. Not just because we are half way to tying last years IR record. I wonder if the NFL changes to encourage offense created a situation where when collisions happen, they occur at higher speeds. Perhaps going back to allowing WR’s to get mugged would prevent a lot of these injuries.

    • BerwynBomber

      My guess is eventually what happens — but we could be years away — but the league will try to protect all players as they try with QBs now. Especially as it pertains to the hits below the waist.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Abe Gibson had more wins (11 in 32 games) in fewer games than John Fox (9 in 34).Abe had a tie, too.

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  • KentuckyBearsFan

    I couldn’t believe how god awful Glennon was. I didn’t watch the preseason but I watched the Bucs game in full.

    Considering how bad that first half was, I couldn’t believe that Sanchez did not start the second half.

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