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Data Entry: Scouting Chicago’s 2016 Rush Offense & Defense

| August 15th, 2017

The Bears generally had a good rushing attack and bad rushing defense last year. Their offense was only 17th in rushing yards, but 6th in yards per attempt. On defense, they were 27th in rushing yards allowed and 21st in yards per carry allowed.

These basic stats are easy to look up, and I think most fans generally know Chicago’s run game was good (thank you Jordan Howard) while the run defense was bad. What’s more interesting to me is to look at why that happened for both. That is, what areas of the field did they do well running to/stopping the run in, and where did they struggle running/stopping the run?

Thankfully, that information is all available through the NFL Game Statistics & Information System (username and password are both “media” if you want to poke around), so I’ve compiled it into a few handy images that we can look at. This should be helpful heading into 2017, as much of the personnel in the run game (OL/RB) and run defense (front 7) is similar. I’ll re-visit this at the bye week to see how things have changed halfway through the season. At that time, I’ll also add in passing offense and defense, I didn’t bother with those now because the personnel for both has changed so drastically.

Rush Offense

Here’s the data for Chicago’s rushing attack in 2016. The line at the bottom is the line of scrimmage, runs are split into 7 zones, and attempts and yards per carry are listed for each zone, with ranks relative to the rest of the NFL in parentheses. The height of the bar is proportional to yards per carry, and bars are colored green for top 10, red for bottom 10, and yellow for middle 12. Note expected yards per carry varies by region, so the colors are relative to their peers in that region.

Here we see a lot of green, which is good. The Bears were generally efficient running the ball last year, and you can see that play out in runs to many areas of the field.  A few of my observations (feel free to add yours in the comments below):

  • The Bears ran off guard quite often, but didn’t really have much success. Perhaps injuries to starters Kyle Long and Josh Sitton factored in there. Ranking much higher in volume of attempts than efficiency is not exactly ideal. Hopefully they track this information better this year and stop doing so many runs that aren’t being effective.
  • Speaking of a difference between volume and efficiency, the Bears ran up the middle an astonishingly small amount (the next team up had 48 carries, and middle of the pack teams were around 120) despite having very good success there. It’s always possible one big run can skew the numbers with a small sample size like that-I think Jordan Howard’s long run against the Vikings was right up the middle-but the Bears might want to consider running up the middle more often this year.
  • The Bears had great success on outside runs. They were excellent to either side, and did it quite frequently. That might seem odd considering Jordan Howard is not exactly a burner, but their interior OL are athletic and can pull to the outside well.
  • They seemed to generally favor the left over the right side in terms of volume. Perhaps that speaks to trust in Charles Leno as a run blocker, but I found that a bit odd considering it’s supposed to be Bobby Massie’s strength. I’m not complaining, though, because they were quite effective. I’ll be interested to see if the trend continues this year.

Rush Defense

Here’s a similar chart for Chicago’s 2016 run defense. It’s not nearly as pretty.

A few thoughts, and again please share yours in the comments:

  • Teams generally ran on the Bears a lot last year. They rank in the top 10 in attempts against them in 5 of the 7 zones. That makes sense considering Chicago spent an awful lot of time in the 2nd half trailing, with teams looking to bleed the clock. I think it speaks more to game situation than the quality of Chicago’s pass defense.
  • Chicago wasn’t really good in run defense anywhere, but you can see pretty clearly there was one general section of the field where they were consistently awful. I’m guessing that would be the opposite side from Akiem Hicks, as he was the only healthy defensive lineman who was any good last year. Hopefully a healthy Eddie Goldman (knocks on wood) plus Jaye Howard and an improved Jonathan Bullard can help shore that up.
  • Teams didn’t run up the middle on the Bears much, and I’m not really sure why. They never really proved they could stop it.

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  • SC Dave

    On Howard’s outside running, a lack of flat-out speed is not necessarily a handicap. If the back has the vision to see how blocks are going to happen, and the patience to wait for them, effectiveness follows. Jordan is very good at both. The potential downfall there is backside pursuit coming down the LOS, but the Bears usually seemed to have someone in the way.

    But yes, it appears the first order of business is to fix the front seven. As you mentioned, perhaps having fewer people on IR will help. I sure hope so.

    • Yup, maybe some of Forte’s vision rubbed off on the young lad, but vision, much like speed, can’t be taught.

      Every year we see underwear olympic stars who continually hit the wrong hole or run into the back of their linemen.

      While guys like Forte, Foster, Howard, who aren’t going to win any gold medals, just see the field and always seem to hit the right hole and squeeze the most out of every carry.

  • Bender McLugh

    Great stuff, Data.

  • willbest

    Seems kind of silly for Leno to not have a contract extension. He isn’t worth the tag for an LT, and there aren’t going to be any better options for us next year.

  • Irish Sweetness

    If Kyle is the weak link on that line … then we have no choice but to put Whitehair in his place. Grasu in at Center, with Larsen backing him up. If Cody’s all that … then we need him at guard. Accommodating a bust-up Long? Nah.

    The production off Leno’s blocking is surprising to me. We got two more YPC off Leno than we did from Long/RG? And three more than the LG! Sounds like it’s healthy guards we need, not new tackles. If Grasu can go, he needs to be at Center. At least until Long gets his surgery and rehabs. Sitton and Whitehair make a nice set of guards. Kush is gone for the season, yo.

    • one thing to keep in mind is that the average carry to the outside will generally be higher, because the likelihood of breaking off long runs is better when you’re farther away from more of the big bodies in the middle. That’s why I included how they fared in those spots relative to the rest of the NFL in those spots.

      So don’t think of it as 2 more ypc, but instead 9th in the NFL at running outside to the left, whereas 20th running behind RG.

      It’s also worth noting Long only played half the year last year, so those stats aren’t all with him on the field. Unfortunately I can’t break it up into games he did/didn’t play without going through each individual play, and I don’t have time to do that.

      And even when Long is on the field, runs behind RG are not just on him. Might be a pulling LG, or lead blocker, and C, RT, and possible a TE all need to hold their blocks or their guy can blow it up.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It was surprising to hear we didn’t run it up the middle though. Is that a blight on Whitehair’s perceived ability in straight-ahead blocking?

        • no idea. In general their interior is built more for athleticism/mobility than sheer strength, so maybe they just think that won’t be their area of strength.

          Like I said, with only 30-ish carries, one outlier can have a huge difference (though I just looked it up, and Howard’s big run against MIN was off LT). It also could be that teams scouted this and didn’t expect runs up the middle, so they caught them off guard there 1-2x a game.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            good point on the athleticism/mobility of the interior. The bears pull their guys on the outside runs quite effectively.

        • willbest

          If somebody doesn’t expect you to do something, you are likely to catch them by surprise. The Bears only went up the guy twice per game. If you are opponents you give them those yards and shut down their runs to the right or left guard which they did 4 times a game each.

    • leftcoastdave

      I don’t buy your analysis, Irish. These are zone blocking schemes where a run off Tackle is very much dependent upon the blocking of the Guard for success. Point of attack is relatively meaningless in that regard. A run off Guard may just as well fail due to the Tackle being unable to control his man and is actually more often the case.

    • CanadaBear

      Larsen is blocking for Cutler in Miami.

    • willbest

      No choice? There are plenty of other choices.

  • ButtonShoes

    John Fox should have kicked his own loser ass out of that practice instead of Kyle Long. If Kyle got into a fight, I’d be willing to bet it was because he gave a shit about what was happening during practice and trying to give his all. Kyle’s got heart, determination, and passion, three things John Fox has never had as coach of the Bears. Also, John Fox is the dumbass still dead set on starting Mike Glennon instead of Trubisky. So, in short, fuck John Fox, and go Kyle.

    • King of DBB

      fuck Johnny Fox
      his mama sucks da cox
      i want my bagel and some lox
      it’s Kyle Long who rox

      Fuck da bears coach
      he crawls like a roach
      a legacy he cannot encroach
      navy and orange above reproach

      whoooo dooooo

      • fishing florida

        juvenile.

        • SC Dave

          Yes, but in response to “This user is blocked”, it’s okay.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I am surprised you don’t have ‘fishing’ blocked also…

      • Corporal Clott

        GP, If Trubinsky turns out to be legit, are you going to get back on board the good ship lollipop?

        • King of DBB

          Sigh.

          I was never down on the kid. Ever.

          My message did not get through.

          Hubby Bubby talked to EVERY OTHER GM. John Lynch PLAYED Westworld. He tapped into Westworld’s paranoia algorithm and made him bite. But the Niners were not going to take him!

          We could have had our additional picks back.

          Moreover, it was a cynical move by Pace to push things off.

          If Glennon busts HARD, and Butt Fumble is not up to the task (why does Butt Fumble now resemble Joseph Gordon Levitt? Should we start calling him Robin?) – and Pace is pushed into playing the kid because the kid is so fucking good – that will be a fascinating development.

          I will be fascinated to see that happen. But Giraffe boy is gonna have to SUUUUUUUUCK for Pace to do that. Trubisky was always a cynical pick, and no other serious GM would have looked at the Bears and said that is how to rebuild the team. You don’t get a project QB, no matter how good you think he could become, when there are giant sucking sounds at other positions.

          Also, Canada said I thought they would tank. I NEVER SAID THAT.

          I said:

          Pace needs 6-8 wins to show progress and keep the fans off him. So he WILL SPEND this offseason to TRY and build a .500 club.

          If he has another 3 win season, they will be ON HIM LIKE DOGS.

          He NEEDS TO DOUBLE THAT WIN COUNT AND WILL MAKE MOVES TO DO SO.

          Fox has an opportunity to write the ending of his story. He could Walter Mattheu this fucker and put together a gritty 9 win team and a wildcard. That would be OVERACHIEVING. But Fox may be stung by the widely held perception that he no longer has fucks to give. So he may sit up and start whipping the horses.

          The Bears could be a spoiler team. they will try and ball control and clock wind like a MOTHERFUCKER – they will be the most clock windy team in the NFL – games will FLY BY on tv. They will try and win 10-7 game after game.

          It will be interesting to see if they can do that. It will be interesting to see if Pace decides to put his rep on the line, which – if Trub is all star material – he SHOULD DO.

          But he wants to hold onto his job more than anything and he has stacked the cards to do that. THAT IS WHAT I SAID.

        • willbest

          It was Sac and MB that wailed the loudest.

    • Corporal Clott

      It could be that or sometimes players lose their sheite when they get beat and are made to look bad. It’s called pride. I had a guy on my team that was pretty good but he could never beat me when I went head to head with him and he was playing gaurd. One time he sucker punched me in the gut and I just laughed and beat him worse on the next play. He was so pissed that the coach stepped in and sent him to the showers. Lol

  • leftcoastdave

    I like the breakdown, but it seems to me it “breaks down” in not accounting for strong side/weak side formations. Where’s the TE or two?

    • yeah, the data doesn’t account for that at all. Certainly has its limits. I just think it’s useful to see #1 where they like to run the ball and #2 how successful they are in different areas, generally speaking.

  • leftcoastdave

    The D will flip flop with the TE and is less of an issue, but does this account for draws as an example?

    Yep, they were behind so they had a lot of runs against them in the second half when down, and tired.

    • leftcoastdave

      Leno will certainly be under the microscope after last week’s dismal start which precipitated that pick six. Talk about setting off a disastrous start to Mike Glennon’s first appearance.

      That blame can be affixed, although it can as well be said Glennon should have thrown it away or taken a sack.

      • SC Dave

        Double trouble on that play.

        At least no OL got hurt trying to stop the 6 part of it. I saw Whitehair chasing him and thought “gawd, don’t waste a hammy on this”.

  • leftcoastdave

    Data: Nice try, but I think it fails spectacularly because it does not account for zone blocking schemes, pulling trap blocks and much else which places blame on individual weak links rather than the location of the run.

    The D analysis is less flawed in that regard, but for the score/down and distance garbage time considerations.

    • absolutely, that’s why I tried not to pin too much on one person. I just specifically pointed out Leno because the LT is key in any run off LT or left end, no matter what the play design is. But as you point out, there are certainly others involved: the WRs, likely TE(s), pulling OL.

      • leftcoastdave

        Leno will certainly be under the microscope after last week’s dismal start which precipitated that pick six. Talk about setting off a disastrous start to Mike Glennon’s first appearance.

        That blame can be affixed, although it can as well be said Glennon should have thrown it away or taken a sack.

        Posted.

  • CanadaBear

    The Bears run D was certainly better in the first part of the season. It was dreadful the last 5-6 games.

    • Yup.
      You can always tell the heart of a D by how they do against the run, and in the last few games, contrary to Joe Buck and gang, the team DID quit.
      They were thinking of Maui or Cancun and not stuffing a 220 back.

      Sure, there were INJs, but I saw a team that didn’t really want to tackle down the stretch.

      • CanadaBear

        100%.

    • willbest

      You mean when Freeman went out and Danny lost his knee?

  • SC Dave

    Anyone seen any news on Amakumara’s practice injury?

    • He’s already inj? That was faster than expected.
      But, that’s OK. It’s not as if we could’ve signed Norman last yr.
      Thank god we have Fuller and $20M in cap!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Norman is a overhyped cover 2 corner.

        • He did pretty well last yr, better than LeBlanc and Fuller, and the Skins don’t play a cover 2.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            not disagreeing that he was better than our shit stains. But that he got a rather large contract for being a 1 year wonder in a cover 2 scheme.

          • Yes, and it turned out, Norman wasn’t just a 1 yr wonder, and that he COULD excel in a diff scheme.

            Norman had 2 INTs against us last season, which I think is 2 more than our entire secondary had the whole year.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            2 INTs against us with Barkley as QB. 1 against all other Teams. hmmm sure seems like he excelled and was worth all that money. He is not an elite talent yet. He is just the one talking the loudest. A lot of money to someone with average production.

          • I would settle for “avg” over “utter dog shit” every day of the week, and twice on sun. If we had frontloaded his contract (like every other contract), his cap hit wouldn’t be astronomical.

            https://www.profootballfocus.com/news/pro-josh-norman-calls-2016-his-best-season-as-a-pro

            “… He finished the season with an overall grade of 82.0 that ranked 22nd among his peers. He allowed a passer rating of 74.3 on throws into his coverage, ranking him 14th of 81 qualifying corners (minimum 570 snaps).

            Norman allowed 1.01 yards per cover snap, which ranked 23rd. He
            allowed a reception once every 13.5 snaps in coverage, the eighth-best
            mark in the league in 2016”

            Keep in mind, this was his first yr away from zone-heavy too, so he’s likely only going to improve.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Gah. Really.

  • When I first saw this data, I too was a bit surprised.

    We figured “hey, PB OGs and a freight train HB, right up the gut” but the stats say otherwise.

    I think this has much more to do with scheme.

    We saw it even in the PS games. There’s a lot of stretch runs to the outside.

    (and with Trub and Cohen, there’s gonna be even more cuz they’re gonna bootleg the fuck out of it while the speedy Cohen can hit the corner faster and get lost behind that moving wall)

    And in retrospect, the inside struggling relatively speaking makes sense.

    Oline relies on chemistry (that’s why it always takes them longest to gel of any unit).

    The inside was the most in flux.

    Grasu went down and Whitehair, who never played C, was thrown into the fire.

    Long got hurt, then played hurt, thus making him ineffective.

    The same with Sitton.

    They were cycling Kush and Larsen in.

    That Vikes game where Cargo did well, that was Kush and Larsen owning them, perhaps due to the fact that they were healthy, and as backups, used to playing w each other.

    We also might roster a REAL FB this season, which should help with the inside runs, though it’s also interesting to note that Alshon is gone, and he was a superb blocker on those outside runs.

    I’m still a lil bit worried about the inside. Long doesn’t seem right and has proven inj prone.

    Hopfefully the new guy Jordan Morgan blows us away cuz I don’t wanna see Tyler fucking Boggs out there, the Unrein of the Oline.

    • On the flip side, also no surprise about the run D being weak away from Hicks.

      Goldman is a gamechanger. Hicks said as much. But he’s always hurt, and he got hurt again last season. When he goes down, it really handicaps or run D.

      And Unrein is Unrein. A guy.

      Bullard was getting swallowed up, so teams just kept attacking that side.

      Remember, Bullard is supposed to be a Tommie Harris type, a one gap attacker, so he’s not really built for being a two-gap run stuffer.

      It’s interesting to note though that Bullard gained 20 pounds this offseason perhaps to hold up better vs the run. He also emphasized that he made sure he didn’t lose any of his explosion (and we saw some of that when he stuffed the HB on 3rd and 1 vs the Donks), so we’ll see how that goes.

      IF Goldman remains healthy and IF Bullard takes the next step, that should go a long way to shoring up that run D.

      Big IFs, no doubt, and why I wanted another Dlinemen like Baker or maybe even Poe for insurance.

    • SC Dave

      I know that haters and our resident troll will jump my ass for saying so, its good to see someone else acknowledge Alshon’s blocking. Another thing we’ll miss on the field this year.

      But maybe the other guys can pick up the slack?

      • Yeah, I think the one thing we can all agree on is that Alshon was a superb blocker, which I’m sure helped those outside runs (can’t really break off big runs without blocking those little fuck CBs). Though Alshon was suspended a few games, but no arguing he’s a great blocker (prob learned it from Bmarsh).

        And yeah, can’t really say how Meredith and co. block.

        I would have to go back and watch all-22, but hopefully they can block as well to spring the fitter Howard for longer runs.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I can concur. I have no idea how our receivers block.

    • willbest

      I mentioned it to Irish below, but if you can, you take away your opponents strength and you make them beat you some other way. If our strength was our guards, then you scheme for them and make the Bears beat you to the outside.

      • Personally, I think it’s just the Birdcage scheme more than the D forcing anything.

        His O reminds me a lot of that old Broncos/Shanny attack. Lots of stretch runs where the HB picks his hole, plants his foot on the ground, and goes. This requires athletic OGs and a HB with vision, and that’s exactly what we have (and part of the rationale for letting Slauson go – not “athletic” enough).

        Birdcage will likely continue the outside run attack. That’s his staple and the engine to the rest of his playcalls like that Shanny Broncos team.

        It’ll become even more potent with a QB who can actually bootleg and throw accurately on the run (Trub).

        I can see their vision.

        Athletic OGs. Check.
        HB with vision. Check.
        QB with legs and arm. Check.

        Only difference is that now ‘chop blocks’ are illegal unlike back in those Shanny days when they were accused of being dirty.

        But we’ll see. I think that’s the type of O Birdcage wants, and it’s effective with the right personnel (it’s also extremely HB friendly).

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Also got to take into account what the situations on inside runs were. 1st and goal at the 1/2 yard line. 2nd/3rd and 1. A lot of teams run up the gut on those situations. It will affect numbers.

    • Corporal Clott

      “When I saw this data, I too was a bit surprised”.

      Jess, the Bears run defense last year was infamnia.

  • fishing florida

    i believe kyle long’s fights are a sign that he is frustrated and not ready and may not be for some time.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      fights in camp happen all the time. you are reaching with that conclusion.

      • Corporal Clott

        This is what happens when mothers give their sons barbie dolls intead of erector sets. Hee hee

        See how I did that MB?

      • Fights are actually good with some exceptions.

        Like when Bennett bodly slammed rookie Fuller, maybe not a good fight.
        Then again, given what we now know of Fuller, he needed a good body slamming.

        The only part about that story that gives me pause is that he fought his OWN oline, including his college bud Grasu (?).

        Long is supposed to be a leader. Then again, Kreutz broke some jaws, so who knows?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Not worried about it. Here is the Kreutz story. He broke Fred Miller’s jaw
          http://www.espn.com/nfl/news/story?id=2223842

          • Kreutz broke not ONE but TWO teammate jaws (including the one in college).

            I think he broke Miller’s jaw at an FBI gunrange, not even in practice.

            Miller was 6’7 320. Deum. Kreutz is a badass.

            Always wondered what it really was about.

          • CanadaBear

            The story I read they were at the range with a FBI agent/groupie (in a bro kinda way) and they were getting hammered. Miller kept riding Kreutz about something and at some point Kreutz told him to stop, Miller didn’t and Kreutz broke his jaw and Miller hit Kreutz with a metal plate from a weight set. Kreutz needed stitches to close the wound in his scalp.

          • willbest

            good lord. Too much testosterone and alcohol doesn’t end well.

          • lol all that over Miller riding Kreutz!?

            I thought someone fucked someone’s gf or owed $ or something.

            Oh well. Beer and guns…at least they didn’t shoot each other!

          • CanadaBear

            Who knows if it’s even true but it sounds believable. I can believe there was some history between these two and alcohol + testosterone + not knowing when something has gone way past being funny = Cat Fight! You always have teammates that you kinda like/kinda don’t and those are the ones that cause you trouble. The ones you can’t stand, you just avoid them.

            I’m hoping the FBI guy had the good sense to have the guns put away before the booze started flowing.

          • SC Dave

            Kreutz probably sucker punched him.

    • Johnnywad

      Who knows. Picking a fight with other giant dudes doesn’t sound like something one would do while badly injured.

      Maybe he’s just raising the crazy bar a little.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yup. So bench his ass.

  • SC Dave

    So, if Long is no go, Kush out, who else is in? I’m pretty certain Morgan is in since he is a Pace draftee, but who do we keep?

    Whitehair, Sitton, Long, Leno, Scales pretty certain to be in. I know about the “luxury” of a LS specialist, but with the long extra points I think he’s a lock.

    Grasu and Massie very hard to unseat. That leaves three (?) from:

    Boggs, Compton, Green, Joseph, Kirsch, Poehls, Richardson, Sowell

    Any guesses?

    • pretty much every team carries a long snapper.

      They’ll likely keep 8 OL.

      5 starters + Grasu, Compton, Morgan, IMO. Grasu and Compton dress on game days (assuming everybody is available).

      • Morgan looked decent out there.
        I hope he gets some reps with the 1s before PS is over.

        No reason a rook Olinemen can’t take care of business.

        We sorta know what Compton and Boggs are.

      • SC Dave

        I was leaning pretty much the same way, but Poehls intrigues me by size, although I did not pay much attention to his play.

  • Jokey

    Dunno if this video supports or refutes Data’s findings, but it has some good observations on our zone blocking scheme – someone said it was new this year and that can’t be correct b/c the footage is from last year. Some good slo-mo breakdowns of Howard and our Oline. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C__uEIQ-XKQ

    • SC Dave

      I love the segment from about 10:32 to 10:46 or so showing Jordan pass blocking.

  • King of DBB

    Donny tweeted a picture of a train running somebody over this morning.

    https://ichef-1.bbci.co.uk/news/660/cpsprodpb/15526/production/_97343378_captwg4ure.jpg

    Some entitled white-power loser plowed over a woman using his Dodge Challenger this weekend. Killed her. Maybe pictures depicting people being run over is a little more mentally ill than we were hoping Donny would be.

    • CanadaBear

      Pretty difficult for anyone to support DT’s opening statement after the attack without looking like a white supremacist.

    • I’m not sure Trump is a full-racist because ironically you need to be principled and passionate to be a racist, and Trump is not a “true believer” simply an opportunist like Hanz Landa in “Inglorious Basterds” or like the dad in “American History X”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMVysV1lp98

      which of course leads to curb-stomping skinheads, or whiteys running over protestors.

      • King of DBB

        Landa was actually more like Trump than not. Landa was an opportunist who saw racism and extermination of the Jews as his chance for power.

        Once he saw the tide turning, he threw all of Germany under the bus in order to switch sides and get to safety for himself.

        Had Aldo Raine not carved a swastika in his head, Landa would have impersonated a liberal progressive in the states in order to get along and enjoy life. That was the whole point of carving him up.

        • Oh yes, sloppy writing on my part.
          Meant to say Trump is an opportunist like Hanz, not a true believer.

          The “true believers” shot themselves with a luger in 1944.

          The rest, we hired.

      • willbest

        Why do people have a problem with Trump attacking antifa as well as tiki torch carrying frat boys wearing nazi swag? Those fuckers violently oppose free speech.

        Have to commend the city though for channeling the nazis into the anarchists after they unlawfully shut down the ralley. Those two groups deserve eachother. At least until they decided they weren’t going to own the predictable consequences of it. The lawyer mob outside that girls family are probably 10 deep.

        • “Those fuckers violently oppose free speech.”

          So does Trump, when it doesnt flatter him

          #fakeNews
          #deepState

          • willbest

            Are you referring the the people that get tackled by the SS when they try to rush the stage he is on?

          • That type of shit happens from time to time.
            Bush had to dodge a flying shoe.

          • willbest

            I know. 320 million people you are going to have a lot of crazies.

            I was just actually thinking about where Trump or his agent used actual violence to suppress speech.

          • Yes, but this president doesn’t seem to be bothered all that much by right crazies. He puts in the minimum lip service, but that’s about it.

            The fact that white supremacists and nazis overwhelming voted for him and think he’s their man ought to tell us something.

            http://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2017/08/12/david-duke-trump-charlottesville-protest-nr.cnn

            Trump one of the advocates of the Obama is a muslim and birther movement.

            He’s no McCain, that’s for sure.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3c-Ijky95dc

          • willbest

            Well antifa doesn’t vote so I guess there is that. But there are plenty of left wing crazies that do vote, and you don’t see democrats calling them out ever.

            The fact of the matter is this should have been a non-event without the city Fing up royally. Some shitty LARPers would have had their fun in front of a statue that was about to be removed, and gone home and nobody would have been killed.

            There was some crap in Seattle yesterday and the police did their job and nobody got hurt.

            http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/far-right-rally-goes-ahead-seattle-despite-violence-virginia-n792271

            Then again I guess Seattle PD is used to dealing with antifa. Nowheresville isn’t generally used to being the center of a right-left clusterfuck.

          • BearDown100393

            He had quick neck reflexes only a giraffe would appreciate

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        If there is one thing Orange Chimpanzee is (second to being a raging narcissist), it that he is racist.

        His history is full of racist acts.

        1) 1970s housing discrimination against blacks. settled the case
        2) Took out ad against central park five. Doubled down on central park five after their sentences were vacated.
        3) Dad was KKK member and arrested wearing hood in Queens in 1927. Dad used ‘nigger’ all the time. Orange chimpanzee on tape during recording of Apprentice using nigger several times.
        4) Let’s not forget Orange chimpanzee endeared himself to Republican tea bagger base by going full birther against President Obama. Kept lying for years about sending investigators to Hawaii. But hearing those lies made his tea baggers feel good about themselves.
        5) Orange chimpanzee on his superior genetics & German blood. He’ll never denounce Nazis / white supremacists #Charlottesville https://twitter.com/Lilyachttty/status/896464203900264448

      • Holy crap, I’m psychic.

        Trump pretty much just used the same argument as the Dad in American X did..”.If we take down Robert E. Lee’s statue, how about Washington, Jefferson…?”

        How about we just start with the defeated general who fought for slavery and go from there?

        The south def has an identity problem. How could you be a proud southerner AND say the war was wrong?

        The Japanese are ASHAMED of what they did in WW2.
        The Germans are ASHAMED of what they did in WW2.

        Southerners on the other hand drive around with a confederate flag and salute a Robert E. Lee statue.

        This would be the rough equivalent of a Hitler statue in the center of
        berlin while germans hang a nazi flag on their mercedes.

        And on top of that, Trump pulled a classic Will Et Tu about the “left” (which anarchists aren’t) ramming the Nazis with a prius…oh, wait, that’s right, that didn’t happen.

        Soap box off.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “The Japanese are ASHAMED of what they did in WW2.
          The Germans are ASHAMED of what they did in WW2.”

          Not sure those are true statements.

          • Based on everything I’ve heard and read about it, the Germany one surely is.

          • willbest

            I think they still throw you in jail there if you make a favorable reference to the nazis and its illegal to own paraphernalia

          • AlbertInTucson

            I’ll concede on Germany but, as far I know, Japan still refuses to acknowledge some of their WWII atrocities, notably, Nanking.

          • The Japanese government may deny certain atrocities, but overall they admit their guilt and don’t go around building statues of Emperor Hirohito or other WW2 generals.
            And personally I’ve known a lot of Japanese ppl, and believe me, they get really uncomfortable talking about WW2. To me, they seem genuinely ashamed.

            They’re not going around waving WW2 era flags, that’s for sure.

          • willbest

            I know a lot of Japanese people. None of them over 45, admittedly, but they don’t give a shit about what Japan did in WW2

          • Japanese over Japanese-americans? Big diff. And yes, the older ones from Japan tend to be a bit more serious about it.

            Even still, I doubt your Japanese companions are attending pro-Hirohito statue rallies in Tokyo.

            Or maybe they might. Don’t know what crowd you run with really.

          • willbest

            both? When does one stop being Japanese and start being an American? I know some that were born here and others that immigrated here. Most the ones I know intended to stay here, which is to say they aren’t really proper Japanese anymore. I wonder if that conversion relieves you of your ancestral guilt, which is what we are talking about. No Japanese under the age of what 85-90 can feel personally responsible for it.

            The other difference is, no Japanese person has taken benefit from it since the US put its boot down on them. Their great grandfather might have raped a few women but he didn’t use that illegal activity to create generational wealth for the family.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And Germans aren’t ashamed. Hitler wasn’t German for starters. Germans are just pissed off that they’re still paying reparations to the Jews for something they had nothing to do with.

          • Did you just say that Germans had nothing to do with the Holocaust?

          • Irish Sweetness

            No. Modern Germans – young Germans – are tired of their country STILL paying reparations for something THEY didn’t have anything to do with.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The USA doesn’t recognize its own atrocities in WWII, Al. They say theirs ended the war.

          • willbest

            History is written by the victor.

          • Hey, we didn’t bomb Pearl Harbor last time I checked, unless you’re a Pearl Harbor “truther”

            (Some rumors about FDR allowing it to happen, but even so, we didn’t bomb ourselves).

            Americans at that time were overwhelmingly isolationist. They did not want to go to war AGAIN over European idiocy.

            Churchill was practically blowing FDR to get in the game, but he couldn’t because of public sentiment.

            Moral of the story. If you don’t want to get ass-raped, don’t fuck with bubba.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yeah, I’m sure sorry my Dad didn’t get a chance to be killed invading Japan.

          • Joecashflow

            In Germany right now. Interestingly they don’t talk about Nazi or Hiltler, at least openly, but war history is on TV here all the time. They don’t edit it at all.

          • willbest

            I find it impossible to believe with respects to the Japanese. Every single NE Asian country thinks its superior to the others.

            Quite frankly, guilt over how you treat non-relations seems to be a uniquely Western trait. In fact, how nice your country is seems directly related to how well you treat people that aren’t in your family.

          • Irish Sweetness

            NE Asia? Thailand thinks it’s above everyone else. Probably most countries think they’re awesome?

          • willbest

            Thinking well of yourself is different than looking down at others. And it wouldn’t surprise me if it was all up and down the coast. I have just met enough Chinese, Koreans, and Japanese to stereotype them. I have also met a lot of Indians, and while they have a whole system of thinking they are superior to other Indians from other regions, that doesn’t seem to extend outside their borders except to look down on Pakistan.

          • Tortured Bear fan

            they have awesome beaches and culinary tradition.

        • willbest

          Why not Jefferson? He owned slaves. They are already going after Woodrow Wilson.

          But by all means rip down every last sign of the confederacy. It will be easier to deny slavery ever happened in the US later.

          • Cross that bridge when we come to it.
            For now, the symbol of defending slavery could be a good start.

            Haha you think getting rid of those statues will make the U.S. FORGET about slavery?

            Plz.

            Southerners don’t pass by that statue and say, “Ah man, what our forefathers did was wrong, inhuman and evil”

            Southerners pass by that statue in reverence. Why do you think they’re trying to keep it?

            You want to create a slave holocaust museum in its place so they won’t “forget” about slavery, go for it.

            Some state legislatures want to keep the statues but put it into “context”.

            Yeah, they should put a whip in their hands and a statue of a slave tied to a tree next to it.

            How bout that for ‘context’

          • willbest

            Ah so only when they are trying to tear down a statue you care about?

            What about Yale covering up the gun on one of their stone sculptures?

            http://legalinsurrection.com/2017/08/erasing-history-at-yale-covers-over-musket-in-stone-carving-of-puritan/

            Kind of reminiscent of the popes that ordered fig leaves on all the nude art.

            Interesting thought you have there though. So Southerners look up at the statue and get inspired by Robert E Lee a man that stood up to the Federal Government.

            We can’t have anybody thinking they can stand up to the FedGov now can we?

            A non-rhetorical question for you though is, why now? Why not in 1965? or why not say 20 years ago?

    • BearDown100393

      Send Mitch Trubisky to Charleston. All fighting would cease. All would bend the knee in peaceful unison to his almighty presence.

      • willbest

        That would be pretty impressive feat considering Charleston hasn’t been ground zero for a disagreement that large in like 150 years.

        Would we all still remember the Civil War, or would our minds be retroactively altered? Or are we resigned to suck it up in this existence while a different branch of the time continuum takes off?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        is shit going down in Charleston too???

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    This is a sitting United States Senator.

    Brian Schatz‏Verified account @brianschatz

    As a Jew, as an American, as a human, words cannot express my disgust and disappointment. This is not my President.
    1:42 PM – 15 Aug 2017

    • BearDown100393

      However Mitch is our quarterback.

      • King of DBB

        Mitch has already cured cancer, but only for Bears fans.

    • King of DBB

      Hawaiian senators are fake senators

  • BearDown100393

    Data got trumped today.

    • It’s a slow football new’s cycle.

    • some things are more important than football

      • willbest

        Considering the Super Bowl is one of the few things we all Americans do together, there isn’t a whole lot more important than it culturally.

        • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

          Fuck football and racists. You are not going to be able to run away from this shit.

          There is no refuge or safe space for you.

          • willbest

            I am not understanding what you are trying to convey.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            Yeah man, anonymous threats of violence and repercussions. That’s a pretty fascist thing to do. You’re the same as the Nazis. At least they showed up to be animals in person you pussy.

          • King of DBB

            I’m not most Nazis had a choice about showing up, Johnny.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            I take offense to Clown’s ominous threats and the whole mindset behind it. I go to work in a small office with about 5 guys and we bust ass and laugh all of the time. Two of the guys are kind of liberal but they’re educated dads and i respect that they take the time to know the various sides and angles of different topics.

            I am wrapping up my day at 7pm and i get cornered in my office by a younger latino co-worker who feels like it’s time for me to voice which side i am on. Mind you, i’ve missed seeing my kids before they went to bed, am working more hours before my 4th devil spawn arrives and this fucking millennial has the audacity to come into my office and demand answers and dialogue about a subject that i have never ever discussed at the office.

            I told him that if I was his boss i would have fired him on the spot. The fucking audacity of what is going on everywhere is truly a sight to behold.

          • SC Dave

            Participation trophy kids, all entitled to something they didn’t earn. Like respect, for example.

          • willbest

            I would file a harassment complaint with HR.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            That would be a huge pussy move. He wasn’t trying to molest me. I could have thrown him out of the window if I wanted. I chose to tell him it was bullshit and inappropriate.

          • willbest

            The old ways are no more. Document everything.

          • Joecashflow

            No, Just ur average nut case

      • *off-season football

      • Irish Sweetness

        The draft?

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    The Commandant of the Marine Corps is going after Orange chimpanzee.. Waiting to see how tea baggers go after him…
    ——–

    Robert B. Neller‏Verified account @GenRobertNeller

    No place for racial hatred or extremism in @USMC. Our core values of Honor, Courage, and Commitment frame the way Marines live and act.

    3:51 PM – 15 Aug 2017

    • Irish Sweetness

      No place for racial hatred at all … you just go in there and shoot who we tell you to shoot.

    • Johnnywad

      Why the fuck won’t you just log in? That way, you can still spout on about whatever you like, but I don’t have to read it. Something is wrong with you.

      Jeff, this blows man. This guy is bad for your product.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Agree.

        You can block the “Google is paying $97 an hour…” spammers but you can’t block that crap.

        Tiresome.

      • CanadaBear

        If it’s football I may or may not read it. If it’s political, I skip it. Off season it’s OK up to a point but once training camp/preseason is on, time to talk Bears. Just ignore it if you can. I’ve blocked a few guys because of tiresome political stuff. Not that I don’t care, I just don’t need to read it 24/7.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Oh Jebus, this is not a political blog. We live in a plutocracy, none of this shit matters AT ALL. This is all distraction while the billionaires loot what’s left of this land. George Carlin was right.

    • BuddhaJoe
    • Irish Sweetness

      Left, right, up down. Fight the power. End the Fed. Be nice to aliens.

      • BuddhaJoe

        It’s sad but once you’ve realized that its all fucked anyway, it actually is amusing. While everybody else feigns outrage at Trump’s latest idiocy I just laugh.

        • King of DBB

          Now in war we are confronted with conditions which are strange
          If we accept them we will never win. – Patton

          • Corporal Clott

            GP quoting Patton? Jess, interesting times indeed.

        • Irish Sweetness

          All smoke and mirrors. I have not spent one minute looking at Trump on the ‘news’ since he was elected. Until America stops renting its money, I’m not watching. Nothing else is as important.

          Other than pre-season, obviously.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/08/15/espn-apologizes-for-fantasy-football-auction/

    These slaves sure have nice cars and homes and they get to reverse Jefferson tons of hot white chicks.
    #firstworldslaves?

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        haha, we live in the greatest country in the world. Our slaves are so rich they pour cognac IN THEIR Champagne. A talented cover corner or hybrid linebacker can not only reverse Jefferson the shit out of 4 lily white bitches at a time he can then full forward Jefferson them and beat the fuck out of them as they father their children. We live in a country where punters drive McClaren supercars. PUNTERS!

    • willbest

      This is total nonsense. Everybody knows the only slave auctions that go on these days are for prepubescent girls.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Do patriots players ever get hurt in pre-season? The bears are injury fucked and my dolphins are getting injury fucked as well.

    • willbest

      No. The Patriots use a sophisticated VR system that stimulates the same muscle conditions and bone growth, nerve development, etc but safeguard prevent them system from causing muscle and ligament tears.

    • willbest

      Oh and on the Patriots, Hoodie should just bench Brady for 4 weeks just to keep him fresh.

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