• KentuckyBearsFan

    I think Fox gave up on the team before the players did.

    • SC Dave

      You can’t blame Glennon for this.

      • That Guy

        You can blame the coaches for sticking with Glennon after it was painfully obvious he can’t QB in the pros.

        So, about the 3rd quarter of game 1.

        • Dis Guy Trublinsky

          Glennon sucks bad, but he threw two passes at the end of game 1 that could have easily been game winning touchdowns.

          That said, I’m glad he’s gone. And that game, along with the Steelers, Panthers, Vikings and Saints games, are the reason I’m still Bullish on Pace’s overall performance. This season has undoubtedly gone to shit, but there enough pieces there to contend with the upper half of the NFL when healthy and clicking.

          • SC Dave

            Agreed. And I’m not quite sure the offense has ever quite clicked this season.

            It would be good to see, but it seems we’re a bit demoralized for that now.

          • fishing florida

            ”but there enough pieces there to contend with the upper half of the NFL when healthy and clicking.” nope. they’re in the bottom 5 in roster talent.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Hahaha. Yeah. Ok. Because that’s quantifiable.

            The fact is, before the injuries occurred, they played with some of the best in the league and held their own. The problem is they don’t have depth yet. If you choose to ignore those games to support your narrative, go ahead. Makes no difference.

            They’re closer than you think provided the next coach is any good.

          • fishing florida

            can’t agree. talent wins. they don’t have much.

          • SC Dave

            I agree with this. The talent differentials in the NFL are not that great.

            The biggest difference it seems is the expectation of winning that accompanies a franchise.

            The Patriots and Steelers don’t have rosters that.much better. What they have is organizational swagger that translates into *winning*.

        • SC Dave

          I disagree. All they needed was one of three plays to be made late in the game and they would have started off the season defeating the defending conference champions.

          The Tampa game was horrible, but most QBs have those. But certainly by the middle of the Pittsburgh game…

          Problem was that Trubisky was not ready to go. And how people could possibly argue that he was is beyond me. MT is barely ready *now*, and he has eight starts behind him.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I’m no fan of Glennon — he sucks and he should not even be our back-up — but how many more games do we win with Bisky that Glennon started? One?

            Had little bearing on the overall season, and though the four extra games could have helped the rookie’s development, it should not make or break him.

            Btw, given how green Bisky looks (and how bad the WR crew is), I would still contend the Bears had a reasonable plan in place. They just picked the wrong bridge QB.

          • Bear Instincts

            Giraffe Gaffe looks bad because he is. MT10 looks bad because he is a rookie with 13 college games plus 8 NFL games and counting.

          • BerwynBomber

            Save yourself some aggravation and stop defending MT at every mis-perceived slight.

          • Bear Instincts

            Agree. This all starts with Pace and his massive miscalculation on Giraffe Gaffe. Or maybe he did that to sabotage Firefox from the word go. Firefox compounded the mistake Pace made by being a bad coach.

            Pace knew MT10 was not ready to start. He hoped/believed in Giraffe Gaff. Unfortunately it backfired. Makes you really wonder if he can really evaluate talent.

        • KentuckyBearsFan

          I was thinking that Fox was blaming Pace for giving him as his only options horrible Glennon or a rookie with 1-year of college ball.

          He stuck with Glennon because then how well this team performed would be on Pace, not him because no reasonable person expects miracles from a rookie on a team that only won 3 games the season before.

        • BearDown100393

          Blame Pace for Giraffe. He was the one that signed him.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Sure you can. Did you not see him play? He could demoralize anyone.

  • SC Dave

    Somehow, Rev, doing shots of penis wine does not correlate with “celebrate” in my Weltanschauung.

  • willbest

    “Because someone has to be the head coach in the interim. And after the
    Packers game, the Bears had 7 more games. The interim issue is a real
    thing. It’s bizarre. But it’s real.” – Jeff Dec 8

    “Fox must go. Today. ” – Jeff Nov 27 which was accompanied by a whole post dedicated to his removal.

  • willbest

    “Ownership agrees. This isn’t about whether to fire Fox anymore. It’s
    about when. Giants had the advantage of Spags – a DC with head coaching
    experience who LOVES the franchise.” – Jeff

    That is true of the Bears coordinators as well. Assuming Vic really doesn’t want to be interim HC, you still have to believe he would be amenable to being HC. And there are only going to be 5-6 openings. Plus he has never been in particularly high demand, and GM’s like to poach from winning organizations.

    I tend to believe he doesn’t want to be evaluated as a HC candidate based on the last 5-6 games managing a broken down team with a dysfunctional offense.

    • BearDown100393

      Birdcage could do no worse than Hobo at this juncture.

      And it does not matter in the W – L column anymore either.

      • Cubsnlinux

        I would doubt that. Birdcage is awful and he proves likewise every time he opens his mouth and defends his offensive strategy. I have no idea how this hack became an OC in the NFL.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Birdcage is not going to throw Fox his “boss” under the bus for limiting the play calling. He has to follow the company line set forth by Fox. If he goes away from that he would have a hard time finding another job with other coaches.

          • willbest

            In some respects I feel bad for Loggains. He seemed like a pasable OC last year when he had Hoyer/Barkley and a couple people to throw to. He is going to be lucky to find a wide receivers coaching job next year, let alone a QB coach job.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            agree, however someone was willing to give Trestman, Tice, and Cromer jobs, so he will eventually find work.

          • BearDown100393

            I can only remember Shanahan going rogue against Reeves with Elway.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Chico went against Lovie a bit and it got him fired.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Firing them in-season has no value on the bottom line and that’s all they care about.

    • BearDown100393

      I really do not want to believe that sentiment but I am in agreement with its reality.

    • SC Dave

      I think Jeff is suggesting exactly the opposite – that a new coach and a shift in focus towards the future would bring more people the stadium, hence increasing revenue. In theory, more hope for the future would increase merchandise sales before next season also.

      Whether that combination would make up for whatever they would have to pay for an interim coach is outside my expertise. But perhaps ‘Bean’ Phillips has made the calculations, and we get Fox for the duration.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. And I would concur with that assessment.

        I don’t think the interim thing is about the bottom line. Otherwise, Fox would have been gone.

  • AlbertInTucson

    More Mike Francesa “greatness”.

    Go to 8:28 of this clip from The Steve Czaban Show

    http://cdn.stationcaster.com/stations/wtem/media/mp3/12_07_17_Steve_Czaban_Show_hour_2-1512694899.mp3

    • BearDown100393

      Did he reinvent another wheel?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Listener calls out Francesa for saying the the latest Japanese hot prospect, Shohei Ohtani, would wind up a Yankee. Francesa flat out denies ever saying anything like that but, of course, Czaban comes up with the audio clip that shows Francesa did, in fact, say such.

        Here is the link to the ball player details.

        http://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/21712038/shohei-ohtani-sign-los-angeles-angels

        • BearDown100393

          Wow he really is a media revolutionary…..

  • CanadaBear

    Yesterday’s injury report. Hope Eddie plays but it doesn’t look good.

    Chicago Bears’ Thursday injury report: DNP — OLB Pernell McPhee
    (shoulder), S Adrian Amos (hamstring), NT Eddie Goldman (hip) and WR
    Josh Bellamy (illness). LIMITED — S DeAndre Houston-Carson (ankle).

    • willbest

      At least its not Eddie’s foot. I was worried that after 2 seasons of the same problem it might be another Mills situation.

  • willbest

    Good fucking god. This is straight up execution. I can’t believe this police officer got off. He should get the needle.

    http://reason.com/blog/2017/12/08/arizona-cop-acquitted-for-killing-man-cr

    • Bear Instincts

      might makes right

    • CanadaBear

      That wrongful death suit should be a whopper. I get people are all for law and order but FFS hold the police accountable.

      • Bear Instincts

        hold the police accountable….let me know when hell freezes over

        • Juan Stone

          I have a very good source and I’m told that hell is actually a very cold, cold place

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      that is fucking disturbing.

    • evantonio

      Slager was found guilty, so they needed to balance it out with a case like this.

      Unbelievable.

  • CanadaBear
  • CanadaBear

    Decent evaluation of the roster going into next year. Spoiler alert; not a lot of core guys!

    http://www.nbcsports.com/chicago/bears/projecting-what-holes-bears-will-have-fill-their-2018-depth-chart

    • Bear Instincts

      Offense:
      1. WR — FA/Draft
      2. RT — Draft

      Defense
      1. EDGE Rusher — Draft
      2. CB — Resign Fuller/Draft

    • willbest

      That Kevin White appears over Inman is nonsensical. I get he is a FA, but I can’t imagine other teams would be interested in him enough to drive him out of Pace’s price range what with his seemingly decent chemistry with Trubisky.

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree. The only reason White is on the list is the guaranteed salary.

      • Bear Instincts

        1. FA
        2. Meredith
        3. Inman
        4. Rookie WR
        5. K.White

  • SC Dave
    • CanadaBear

      My favorite quote.

      Three years later, as recounted in a 2002 Tribune story, Butkus asked
      “the man” for a signed copy of his autobiography. Halas inscribed it:
      “To Dick Butkus: The greatest player in the history of the Bears. You
      had that old zipperoo.”

      • SC Dave

        I agree with Halas’ statement, at least as long as I have watched The Beloved.

  • CanadaBear

    I think the refs should be investigated and fined, not Payton. What a fuck job!

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000889599/article/sean-payton-on-gameending-penalty-i-had-enough

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, that was ludicrous.

      Nine of NO’s penalties resulted in ATL first downs. Repeat, NINE (9) first downs due to penalties. And by and large they were ticky-tack DPI or D-holding calls. And that’s not to mention the halftime illegal procedure that took three points off the Saints scoreboard and left everyone mystified.

      Brees had a very un-Brees like RZ INT that lost the game (though it was much an excellent play by the ATL LB than anything else), but that was some atrocious homer job shit going on last night regardless. Every bit as bad and maybe even worse than how Jerry Seaman fucked us in DET last year.

      Can’t blame Payton going ballistic in the least.

      • CanadaBear

        I was kinda, sorta pulling for NO and was pissed off all night. At some point a crew has to be at least a little self-aware about all the calls going one way and usually at the most opportune time for the lucky team. Sometimes it makes you wonder if the calls are coming from HQ. Not that I’m a conspiracy nut but that’s the only other explanation when calls get this out of whack during a game.

        • AlbertInTucson

          That kind of conspiracy is an UNkeepable secret.

          • SC Dave

            Is it?

          • CanadaBear

            Let’s hope!

        • BerwynBomber

          I tend to think its homerism — or more specifically refs influenced by a rabid home crowd.

          Also, there seem a lot of flags in the NFL this year period.

          Before McDonough and Chucky started channeling their inner Joe Bucks the other night over the physical play during PIT/CIN, they were complaining rightfully, IMO, about the zebras making it all about them this year.

          An NO’s young secondary is man2man, in-your-face aggressive, which I like, but which can cause the flag happy to go crazy with yellow litter.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That particular crew throw an average of 18 flags a game, second-most in the NFL.

          • CanadaBear

            Between the endless penalties, constant commercials and whenever someone scores it’s not official for about 3 minutes, I’d be surprised if the NFL is adding much in the younger demographic. No doubt they’ve taken a shit kicking from lots of semi-fans and cord cutters.

  • SC Dave
    • BearDown100393

      Anything that compromises camp next season should IR Howard immediately.

  • SC Dave
    • CanadaBear

      Great stuff! Makes you feel good about McCaskey. That’s a helluva scar on his shin.

      • SC Dave

        I don’t think anyone really doubts that McCaskey loves the Bears, and that it means the players too.

        Were it only about love, the Bears would still be a great franchise. Alas, such is not the case.

        • CanadaBear

          Totally agree but it makes you feel good to have your favorite team go above and beyond to help out the players in their time of need.

          • BearDown100393

            Is it really above and beyond when a player nearly loses his leg?
            This should be expected.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            you are just wanting to be negative. Enter the real world for awhile. Yes it is above and beyond. Not all employers would do that for one of their employees. Then think about the fact that we are only really hearing about this now a month after it happened. McCaskey did not do this for PR.

          • BearDown100393

            I am not taking anything away from the McCaskeys concerning Miller. It is more directed to those that would not care about their employee.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            fair enough, my apologies, your posts are usually fairly negative lately so I took your comment the wrong way.

          • BearDown100393

            My comments have not been sunshine and rainbows about organizational matters on the field. This season is highly disappointing. Those matters are football related.

            Zach Miller may have died that game. His life is worth more than football. The McCaskeys have supported him a great deal during this time. Good for them in the sincerest way I can possibly express on a message board. I hope they continue to do so. I wish him only the best.

          • CanadaBear

            Good on ya!

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure if you’ve ever had surgery but I’ve had a bunch and not one boss ever visited me in the hospital. Let alone The Big Kahuna being there for a few days. I know it’s not a great comparison but if you think most other owners would do the same as George, we will have to agree to disagree.

          • BearDown100393

            Yeah I have.

            That is exactly my point. Most would not. But they should. Especially in this game.

            And this was no ordinary orthopedic injury surgery. Any prognosis involving either potentially death or amputation is obviously quiet serious.

          • CanadaBear

            100%

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Zach who?

      JK! good story. Certainly shows that the McCaskey’s care about the team and his players and it is not just about money as many on here have stated.

      • BearDown100393

        Time will tell.

  • fishing florida

    The 36 defensive snaps the #49ers played last week against the Bears were the fewest played by a defense in a game this season and fewest since Miami played just 35 in Week 2 of 2009. how pathetic is this? 3 years of pace and fox and loggains brought us to this point. loggains – i can see it. when the bears are in the shotgun, they pass. when trubisky is behind center, they run. not every time, but 70 to 80% of the time. so easy to defend.

    • I looked up these stats yesterday for a different conversation. All data from teh excellent searchable database on NFL Savant (http://nflsavant.com/search.php)

      n shotgun, 290 dropbacks vs. 41 runs (88% pass). Under center, 84 dropbacks vs. 263 runs (76% runs). That kind of predictability kills an offense.

      • fishing florida

        surely the bears coaches would have access to these sort of stats. and yet, they continue to add to them. this has to be one of the most predictable offenses in the league.

        • Juan Stone

          Jess, the play calling “casts” serous doubt over the Bears offensive scheme. It seems they csn only fish in very shallow water. He he

          • Irish Sweetness

            MB!

          • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

            Wrong South African

      • fishing florida

        thanks for the savant.com site.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Not that I agee but, I heard it suggested on a radio show that, based on his season to date Mitchell Trubisky’s nickname should be “Sad Tromboneski”.

    As in…

    https://freesound.org/people/Timbre/sounds/73750/

    That SHOULD be the theme song of the Bear offense.

  • AlbertInTucson

    From the podcast: “This is a tactical mistake by Bears ownership.”

    So, what ELSE is new?

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    Bad news for #Bears on Sunday: DT Eddie Goldman (hip), OLB Pernell McPhee (shoulder) and safety Adrian Amos (hamstring) all DOUBTFUL after not practicing Friday.”

    I’ve been waiting for this one. Eddie Goldman. I wondered when he’d finally break down this season, and it looks like this Sunday will be the day. 3 seasons as a pro, and he hasn’t played a full 16 games yet.

  • CanadaBear

    Final injury report. Looks like Eddie, Amos and McPhee won’t be playing. Losing Eddie will definitely affect defending the run. Not great news (big surprise).

    Chicago Bears final injury report vs. Bengals: NT Eddie Goldman (hip),
    OLB Pernell McPhee (shoulder) and safety Adrian Amos (hamstring) are all
    DOUBTFUL for Sunday. Safety DeAndre Houston-Carson (ankle) is
    questionable for the game.

  • CanadaBear

    Well, this should help a little bit.

    3. The Cincinnati Bengals ruled out running back Joe Mixon, linebacker Vontaze Burfict and cornerback Dre Kirkpatrick for Sunday’s game against the Chicago Bears. All three are in concussion protocol.

    • BearDown100393

      Good

    • willbest

      Well at least we don’t have to worry about somebody losing their knee

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