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Charting The Bears: 2016 In Review

| January 17th, 2017

Before the season began I decided to try to do something a little different by charting some of the things you don’t regularly see in box scores and the end result was some really interesting numbers that may change the way you feel about certain players.

The most time-consuming part of my weekly job on DBB was charting the little things that you don’t see. As most hardcore football fans know, completion percentage doesn’t always tell you if a quarterback is accurate, Pro Bowl voting doesn’t always tell you if an offensive lineman can block, sacks don’t always tell you if a player is getting pressure on the quarterback and interceptions don’t tell you if a guy can cover. There’s more to the game, a lot more and I tried to discover some of that here:

The Passers

I covered most of this last week, but they’re worth repeating.

Even though he had the best completion percentage by a large margin, Brian Hoyer was the Bears least-accurate quarterback. I had him as being inaccurate 29 percent of his passes, two percentage points worse than Jay Cutler and five worse than Matt Barkley. Part of this was the number of passes Hoyer simply chucked into the stands. When I first started charting Hoyer, I noted the throwaways, as the season progressed it became more and more difficult to tell what passes he was throwing away and which ones he just wasn’t close to where he needed to be. Quite often, the passes he threw 10 feet in the air could have and should have been completed.

Barkley had the best accuracy rate, even though he completed less than 60 percent of his passes. Drops were the biggest reason for this, we all remember the Titans game and that was just the start. Still, when Barkley missed, it was catastrophic as he was intercepted on over six percent of his passes.

The Stud

Offensive lines always deserve credit when a running back has success, but Jordan Howard was an absolute stud.

I charted Howard with forcing 68 missed tackles this season. No other Bears player even had 10. As DBB readers know, I was on Howard from the draft, but I never imagined he would have this kind of impact.

Second on the team in missed tackles forced was Jeremy Langford with eight, while Cam Meredith had six and Ka’Deem Carey finished with five.

Butterfingers

You all know how badly Josh Bellamy struggled with drops. I had him with eight on the season, the most on the team with drops on 21.1 percent of his targets. Bellamy is a terrific special teams player and made quite a few big plays too, if his hands were even adequate, he’d be a good receiver. But they’re not.

I had Cameron Meredith with seven drops, but he also led the team in targets and had a drop rate of 7.3 percent. Howard had a drop rate of 12 percent, with six on 50 targets.

The Blockers

The real reason I wanted to chart was for the guys in the trenches. Unless you re-watch every play multiple times, you don’t really know what kind of job they’re doing. Well, I did that and charted both the negative runs and passing plays.

While Pro Football Focus — the same website that convinced hundreds of people that Brian de la Puente was the best center in the league — had Cody Whitehair as one of the best run-blockers in the league, I had him down for 22 bad runs, the most on the team by a wide margin. What I didn’t chart, however, was the number of times Whitehair knocked his guy back to the second level. He struggled with consistency and seemed to get beaten at the snap at times — likely part of the struggle of playing center for the first time — but he improved as the season progressed. He didn’t give up much as a pass blocker, allowing just five quarterback disruptions this season. I have no doubt that the Bears have a stud and he’s going to be their best offensive lineman going forward.

Bobby Massie was a whipping boy early in the season, but he played really well the last 14 games. In all, he was responsible for 30 QB disruptions and five bad runs.

Here are the rest of the totals (Player: Bad Runs-Hurries-Hits-Sacks):

Leno: 10-20.5-16-5

Sitton: 8.5-1-3-1

Whitehair: 22-1-3-1

Long: 8-2-3-0

Massie: 5-17-10-3

Kush: 4.5-6-3-0

Adams: 1-1-3-2.5

Larsen: 8-4-7-1

The Bullies

On the other side of the ball, the Bears pass rushers were dominant at times, but none of them were consistent.

Willie Young got off to a fast start, but disappeared down the stretch. In all, he led the team with 37.5 disruptions, ahead of Lenny Floyd’s 32.5. Young had a lot of hurries, but didn’t actually get to the quarterback that much, I had him with a total of 14 QB hits, while Floyd was at 13.5 and, despite missing a lot of time, and McPhee was at 11. McPhee was boom or bust as he only had seven hurries for 18 total QB disruptions.

Akiem Hicks provided more pass rush than I thought he could. The veteran defensive lineman had 14 hurries and six hits in addition to his seven sacks. In very limited action, Eddie Goldman had 7.5 disruptions. Cornelius Washington rarely got to the quarterback, but he had 10 hurries and drew three holding penalties.

The Backers

Nick Kwiatkoski missed more tackles than any player on the team with 11, seven of which came in one game, but that doesn’t mean he was a bad player. Since Week Four, I had him with 10 stuffs (tackles for one yard or less), the most on the team. Danny Trevathan and Jerell Freeman were also among the team leaders with eight and seven.

The Weakness

The biggest weakness on the team this year was the secondary. While safety play has been a problem for a decade, the cornerback play was just as bad and I don’t think the Bears have any answers on the roster.

Tracy Porter regressed to the player he’s always been and is best suited as a third cornerback, not a first. Porter was still their best cornerback, but teams hit him for 30 passes for 505 yards. (Note: I didn’t credit/blame a completion on a player unless I was absolutely sure it was his fault. ). Those were both the worst totals on the team, but only because he played far more snaps than anybody else on the entire defense at nearly 90 percent.

Since nobody else could stay healthy, Cre’von LeBlanc was second on the team in total snaps was roasted worse than anybody else. Playing just under 65 percent of the team’s snaps, LeBlanc was responsible for 17 catches for 324 yards. That, of course, doesn’t include the numerous other times he was beaten and the receiver either didn’t make the catch or the quarterback missed the throw. Worth noting that the Bears didn’t plan on playing LeBlanc. Even in Week 17 he was their fourth cornerback, playing behind Porter, Johnthan Banks (not to be confused with the dude who played Mike Ehrmantraut), and Demontre Hurst.

Jacoby Glenn and De’Vaunte Bausby were absolute nightmares, neither played even 23 percent of the snaps and both gave up more than 10 catches and 100 yards. Bryce Callahan was at about 45 percent of the team’s snaps, giving up 15 catches for 181 yards. The biggest mystery of the 2016 season is why the team didn’t play Deiondre’ Hall, who had twice as many PBUs and INTs (four total) as he did catches allowed.

The safeties weren’t much better. It’s hard to know what to blame them for, but I had Harold Jones-Quartey with nine catches for 118 yards, Adrian Amos with five for 93 and Deon Bush with three for 30, but it seemed he was out of position a fair amount. Just as big of an issue was missed tackles as Amos had four, while both HJQ and Bush managed three. Not good for the last line of defense.

All three players are young and could see a drastic improvement, but the Bears have to bring in a starter somewhere and let the other three compete for one spot.

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  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

    May the Puke be eliminated FIRST and foremost.

    Also, great job crunching the #s Andy. I know from previous football “writing” that it’s time consuming and laborious.

    Also, I’d MUCH rather have a QB who chucks it into the stands instead of to the other team regularly.

    • SC Dave

      While I agree in general with that last statement, when you’re behind late, you need to at least give your big guys a chance to go up and get it in the end zone.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        The problem, from what I understand of what Andrew said, is that he routinely had guys open, tried to throw to them, and the pass looked like he was throwing it away out of bounds. That kind of accuracy deep is scary.

        • SC Dave

          There were some of those. But the ones worse are when you’ve dinked and dunked all the way downfield, and then throw it away repeatedly in the red zone when you’re behind by 15 points.

          • MB30SD

            Or your receivers drop it like 30 times

    • Rack ’em (GP)

      Do you really want to see the Falcons in the Super Bowl? Blech.

      I know… it’s GB. GB sucks. I’m surprised Cheesy isn’t here to rub it in.

      But Erin playing out of his mind v. Brady on a mission to humiliate Rodger Dodger? That is some fun tv,

      • Bender McLugh

        FUCK the Packers. always

        • Rack ’em (GP)

          in the face! the FACE!

        • MB30SD

          ALWAYS

      • BearDown100393

        Never Green Bay.

        Ever.

        • MB30SD

          EVER

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          There are 2 schools of thought in this.

          1. Bitter ill will towards the pukes success can look childish and uncivilized.

          2. A luke warm support of our arch enemies post season aspirations in the disguise of pulling for whoever is representing the NFC North is the civilized thing to do without giving the impression of being a sniveling sour grapes fan.

          • MB30SD

            I’ll never ever understand that NFCN loyalty thing… For any of our rivals. Just don’t get it. Why? What fucking allegiance do I owe to our division when it’s filled with our enemies?!?

            Fuck them, fuck em all!!!

          • MB30SD

            And this is pro sports, not the fucking cotillion

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            You say fack you at the pub, ball game and family get together’s. This is standard practice while publically, you feint decency.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hahaha

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Never reveal the families plans.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            evidently that is childish and uncivilized…… i don’t get it either.

          • MB30SD

            Yes… I am.

          • Ncgenest2

            So they have to overpay their players big time after winning a championship and lose them due to salary cap! Thus helping the Bears in the long run. Blackhawks fans know all about that.

          • MB30SD

            sure, if the bears org doesn’t somehow fuck it up. getting better by others getting worse isn’t a great plan for success.

      • SC Dave

        Ryan has been fantastic this season. I’d rather see a new team in there.

        Unfortunately, the AFC champ sucks regardless.

      • willbest

        Different HC, different team. I have nothing against the Falcons. Better O and D. And the way its been playing the last 5 weeks the one best suited to beat Hoodie

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    I think Tracy Porter is best suited as a street free agent emergency signing at this point, not a CB3. I will be very upset if he is still starting for this team (3 starting CB) come week 1 2017, and if a 31 year old CB isn’t starting or a ST ace, he shouldn’t be on the roster.

    • Bender McLugh

      Yes. I have learned my Tracy Porter lesson, abcya kiddo.

    • That Guy

      Biggest argument for keeping him is that he’s a vet. We’re going to be cleaning house in the secondary; without a big FA signing, we’ll need a couple of experienced guys to help the rookies along. Porter is inexpensive and functional as a backup and, as far as I’ve heard, he’s a team guy.

      I think they keep in on for camp and for next season unless we have 3 new guys that all look better.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        They’ll be signing at least 1 vet CB in FA next year, possibly 2.

        My biggest issue with Porter last year was they gave him basically the exact contract Casey Hayward got in SD. Which is perfectly logical considering Hayward had been younger, healthier, and more productive.

        Lo and behold, Hayward was awesome this year while Porter continued to suck.

        From what I hear, Fox loves Porter because he’s a good guy who works hard and does things right. Pace rewarded that over going for proven production. I hope he doesn’t repeat the mistake this offseason. Porter can be cut for a $3.5M cap savings (only $600k in dead money), which should be a no-brainer.

        • That Guy

          I was upset when we didn’t draft Hayward and I was upset when we didn’t get him in free agency. And you are correct, Porter is a likely cap casualty. But if he sticks around, it will be because Pace and Fox want one of “their” guys to bring along the newbies.

    • CanadaBear

      When you have a vet that’s going out there on 1 leg trying his hardest and another CB on the roster that is a #1 pick and can’t get back on the field after a clean up scope on his knee, I can see why mgmt has a soft spot for Porter.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        Hopefully that soft spot is gone now that he was benched for oversleeping for the last game of the season.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    Playing Porter over Hall down the stretch of the season was a fireable offense. The season was over, you have a 4th round pick rookie who showed promise early in the season, and you’re not letting him into the game because you want some shitty 30 year old journeyman playing instead? There is ZERO justification for that unless you’re punishing the rookie for something that we don’t know about.

    • Rack ’em (GP)

      It was Porter on one leg. Don’t forget.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    Andrew, I’m curious for your thoughts on Kush vs. Larsen. Who did you think played better? Both played a good bit the 2nd half of the season.

    • Rack ’em (GP)

      Kush. And it wasn’t close. Larsen had huge gaffes, huge mistakes where he let his man go.

    • Andrew Dannehy

      I think Larsen is still a bit better. Kush got beat a lot, while it didn’t ultimately end up in sacks, it probably would’ve. I think, in general, we saw more of Larsen (300 more snaps) so people saw more of his mistakes. But the difference between the two wasn’t all that significant IMO.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        Thanks. Seems likely to me one or both should be brought back for depth next year. Both should be minimum type guys.

  • Rack ’em (GP)

    Glenn and Bausby show us that we have “meh” GM, not a great one. The whole secondary situation was handled badly. Porter was the answer? They did FA badly, they drafted badly and it seemed at times the coaching was not that great.

    • Big Mike

      Seriously? Think of where the Bears were when Pace started. We had holes everywhere. Can only fix so many things at a time.

    • willbest

      They were supposed to have Fuller

  • Rack ’em (GP)

    Rough day of flight delays but the flight attendant on @AmericanAir Flight 5066 from CLT to LGA was the best I’ve EVER had. Loved his job.

    Uh oh. Did Jeff just have a close encounter of the buttsecks kind at 30,000 feet?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Only one happy slave encountered while on Jeff’s travels? This is not good.

      • Rack ’em (GP)

        The worm turns. The spice must flow.

  • Rack ’em (GP)

    Some eighth string DJ was on the Score yesterday, since many regs had off.

    He ranted about how most NFL teams have clear lines of command. That there is little to no ambiguity about who really makes decisions in the org. That the Bears pressers reek of “is Pace really calling all the shots?” and back seat meddling by Teddy and George. And that the dysfunction all in the top ranks trickles down and that the house cleaning did not result in upgrades at the rank and file positions.

    THen again, the DJ might be repping the ousted regime – so who knows. He was a mad mad little ant.

    • Big Mike

      Pace gives no indication of not being in charge of football decisions.

      • Rack ’em (GP)

        Why does the MSM keep advancing the narrative that he is a puppet then?

        • Huge Bears Penis

          what/who is MSM??

          • Big Mike

            same question. It’s the score, then it makes sense. They are just poking the beehive.

          • That Guy

            Main Stream Media

          • BillW

            Little known fact – Mickey Mouse’s middle name is Steven,

          • Huge Bears Penis

            It is so little known that it isn’t even known by anyone at Disney.

        • Bender McLugh

          the MSM is also hyping a QB at #3 for the Bears. MSM is often not correct.

          • Bender McLugh

            and I hope I don’t have to eat these words come draft day

        • willbest

          The MSM pushing a conflict and clickbaity narrative. I am shocked

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Jordan Howard IS a stud and he’s our franchise RB of the future if he can stay healthy and continue his 2016 performance into the 2017 season.

    Based on your stats above, Massie should be shown the door.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      Why? He outperformed Leno in every single category Andrew charted.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        Sorry I miss read the stats. Based on Hurries/Hits/Sacks. BOTH should be let go. We need to draft O-line. No matter who our QB is he needs time in the pocket. A QB running for his life every other down is not going to get you to the big show.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          I agree OT needs to be improved, at least depth if not the starters.

          That’s one of those positions (along with QB and pass rusher) where studs generally can only really be found in the draft. If teams get a good one, they don’t let him leave (except in very rare circumstances where $$ absolutely forces it).

          Personally, I’d look to spend a mid-round pick on an OT you hope can be solid depth for now and compete with one or both of those guys by 2018.

          • That Guy

            Word is the top of the OT class this year is unimpressive, so I’d expect the team to look deeper in the draft. This is a position where the senior bowl will be really telling.

            Some to look at:
            Antonio Garcia, Troy (a potential riser)
            Javarius Leamon, SC State (my initial favorite)
            Conor McDermott, UCLA (6’9″ and 310; that’s a big boy!)

    • BearDown100393

      Sayers. Payton. Forte. Howard.

    • SC Dave

      Jordan should get the navy-blue flu before the Pro-Bowl.

  • Big Mike

    Cornerbacks the Bears could target in Free Agency
    Dre Kirkpatrick, Stephon Gilmore, Trumain Johnson, AJ Bouye (lifted from 24/7 Sports)

    Trumaine Johnson
    The Los Angeles Rams slapped the franchise tag on Trumaine Johnson last offseason, and it appears the team is set to let him walk in free agency this spring.

    Johnson had a spectacular season for the Rams in 2015, recording 71 tackles, 17 pass deflections and seven interceptions, but he regressed a bit in 2016. He finished last season with 57 tackles, 11 pass deflections and just one interception.

    Despite his drop in production, he could be the top cornerback on the market this offseason.

    A.J. Bouye
    Least known name on this list, but he put up another solid season for the Houston Texans and could be an under-the-radar target for the Bears.

    Bouye recorded 63 tackles one sack and one interception this season and has 140 tackles and six interceptions to his name in four NFL seasons.

    The former Central Florida standout has the quickness to keep up with some of the NFL’s fastest receivers but he plays physically off the snap of the ball. If the Bears want to add a speedy cornerback who can make an immediate impact, Bouye should be their guy.Morris Claiborne
    If the Bears are looking for a young, promising cornerback who still has a lot of upside, former LSU cornerback Morris Claiborne could be an intriguing option.

    Injuries have plagued the former first-round pick throughout his career and he played just seven games in 2016 for the Dallas Cowboys. During that time he did record 26 tackles, five pass deflections and one interception. According to Pro Football Focus, Claiborne was targeted 48 times this season and allowed just 26 catches for 214 yards with one touchdown.

    Claiborne’s injury history is a major red flag, but when healthy, he has the ability to become a play maker in the NFL.

    Dre Kirkpatrick
    A first-round pick of the Cincinnati Bengals in 2012, Dre Kirkpatrick entered the league with high expectations following an impressive career at Alabama.

    The young cornerback has been shaky at times in his career, but he is coming off his third three-interception season in 2016. He finished the year with 46 tackles, 10 pass deflections and three interceptions. He has good size for the position and allowed 49 receptions on 83 targets for 491 yards and just two touchdowns, according to Pro Football Focus. Opposing quarterbacks also recorded just a 68.9 rating when throwing in his direction.

    Kirkpatrick’s career has been filled with a lot of ups and downs, but when he is on, he looks like one of the NFL’s best. There are risks to signing him to a long-term deal, but he will at least be worth keeping an eye on this offseason once free agency begins.

    Stephon Gilmore
    Stephon Gilmore has all the tools to be an elite cornerback in the NFL, but he has failed to live up to lofty expectations in his first five seasons in the league.

    Gilmore’s career has been filled with a lot of great performances and a lot of head-scratching performances. He played tentatively at times this season, but he did end the year with a career-high five interceptions.

    The former South Carolina Gamecock has great footwork but can appear stiff on occasion in coverage. The upside is there, but the real question is whether he will compete at a high level after getting a long-term contract.

  • BillW

    Watching on Sunday makes one realize just how far the Bears are from serious SB contention. The same can be said for at least 20 other teams – probably more than that.

    It can be done without a HOF=level QB, but that sure seems to be the most advantageous route.

    Do you know that 14 of the last 16 AFC SB participants had either Brady, Peyton, or Ben as their QB?

    That’s NOT good for the league. Perhaps that’s a contributing factor to declining ratings?

    I know coming from a Bears fan it sounds like envy – and to some extent it is. But the one percenters rarely have much true empathy for those not as well off, and fans of the few QB-rich teams are exactly the same.

    I’ve said it for many many years – the idea of favoring QBs above all else was not in the long term interests of a 32 team league.

    Two teams moved. One more ready. Another (JAX) probably will. I honestly think Goodell thinks that’s a GOOD thing.

    The league is set up to sell hope – FA, draft, cap. And if that doesn’t work, they will supply consultants to “help” teams get better. And if that doesn’t work – well, then move to a city that wants a team and will be more patient.

    It’s a great game. Except for the obvious (injuroes) it is near perfect. 22 players, eavch and every one contributing on every play (unlike baseball and basketball).

    And yet about 80 percent of the league has no realistic hope of competing for the championship right from day 1.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      They keep changing the rules to favor offense, and specifically passing offense.

      Surprise surprise, that means the teams with the best QBs now have even more of a leg up.

      Looking at the NFC, it’s still pretty lopsided. Since the Bears’ SB run in 2006, there have been 7 different QBs to start an NFC Super Bowl. Outside of Kaepernick, the rest have all won NFL MVP and/or seem on track to go to the HOF: Warner, Wilson (2x), Eli (2x), Brees, Rodgers, Cam.

      • BillW

        You’re proving my point. Paraphrasing – they keep changing the rules so that teams without a stud QB have little to no chance.

        Which would be fine if there were at least 20 o so stud QBs. But at most there are 10 (and that’s being generous) and anywhere from 0 to 2 come in the league any given year – barely enough to keep the number at 10 year after year.

        So we have “arguments” like “is Joe Flacco elite” when the obvious answer is NO. Same for Jay and I’d say Tony Romo. But the league wants people to beeive all but a handful of teams can make it to the SB every year. Which is an expensive lie (expensive fo rthe fans, that is – in time and money.)

        We can sit and discuss the secondary and o-line etc for months – and without a doubt you can’t win unless those are at least adequate – but unless they revert back to the 1980s rules (and they won’t) then these are only but building blocks. Necessary, but not sufficient.

        We all know this of course. It’s just frustrating when it seems like getting that necessary piece seems almost like random luck. (No pun intended)

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          I’m still more of the opinion that roughly half the teams in the NFL have a QB good enough to win a SB with. If you have one of the tip-top guys (3-5 here), you have a better chance, but you can get it done with a great roster around a good-but-not-great QB. We’ve seen it with Flacco, Eli, Kaepernick, hell even Big Ben in his 1st SB.

          It makes the margin for error a lot smaller, but it’s certainly possible.

          As of right now I’d list probably 15 teams that have a good enough QB: Cowboys, Chargers, Lions, Packers, Falcons, Panthers, Saints, Seahawks, Cardinals, Giants, Redskins, Patriots, Dolphins, Bills, Colts, Titans, Raiders, Chiefs, Bucs.

          Actually, that’s 19. Some of them would need a damn good roster around said QB, but that’s not the QB’s fault. That’s on the GM to do his job.

          (I would have had Bears on this list every year since 2010, but they’re not now).

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            You can quibble on some of those QBs, certainly. Maybe I’m overestimating that number. But I’d be hard pressed to remove enough names to get it below 12 or so.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I would add the Ravens and remove WAS and MIA, and put TEN, TB and OAK in the TBD column.

            P.S. I’ll lay off debating your Bears 2010 contention, but not a big believer in it. See: my opinion on WAS and MIA.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            Did I forget BAL? Meant to include them. Obviously they’ve won a SB with Flacco. But look at how stacked that team was. Great WRs (or at least played great in the playoffs), great OT, great D. That’s what it takes unless you have a Rodgers-type QB.

            I deliberated on WAS and MIA. You can say it’s too early for TEN, TB, and OAK.

          • BillW

            Yes – and I respect your opinion and analysis more than my gut reaction. But looking at GPs recent post, I think that the league no longer cares about having at least half the teams being competitive.

            I think that’s a losing strategy in the long term, but as Dave said, fantasy football has made it less team centric. the only “team” too many “fans” care about is their fantasy team.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agree and disagree. For a counterpoint: look at Brees. He is a sure bet HoFer, annually leads the league in yardage, will go down as no worse than the 3rd best QB of his generation, has won an SB and an MVP, and is by all accounts a total team leader.

          Yet the Saints, at best, are a 50-50 prop to make the playoffs each year. Why? Because their D is often atrocious and they’re generally a crap organization (and Payton might be an overrated HC).

          So I would say having a great QB almost always give you a puncher’s chance but the NFL is still a team game. Hell, Rodgers and the Cheese are probably another example of that, just not as stark as Brees and the Saints.

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears will be just fine in 2017.

      • BillW

        They will be entertaining – I’m sure of that. They will be vastly improved. Without question. I will watch as I have all my life.

        And after enduring 64 years of Cub failure I can stay on board with the Bears.

        I simply dislike today’s NFL and this weekend’s games underscored that even more.

        31-8 was considered a great game. I say it was two teams that correctly figured out defense is secondary (again, no pun intended).

        • willbest

          They were supposed to be improved this year

          • BillW

            Injuries sucked the life out of the season. There wasn’t anything or anyone to truly be upset at even at a putrid 3-13.

    • SC Dave

      I think fantasy is the worst problem – it makes fans not care. Teams don’t matter, players do.

      • Rack ’em (GP)

        Fuck FF. Fuck Butch’s league! I never win!

        • MB30SD

          FFKRF

  • Rack ’em (GP)
    • BearDown100393

      Off season. Meanwhile the anti-vaxer appears to be anti-food as well.

      • MB30SD

        Lookin’ good Chris!!

        I thought his buffador was much more of an infraction

        • BearDown100393
        • Rack ’em (GP)

          Is everyone playing Ghosts now or what?

          • MB30SD

            That was just me missing the ol days.

            I sent you a couple invites last night. No yetspax, no lazers, no robots… just guns, bullets, grenades. Old Skool.

            No one wanted to join me… then I started a binge on The Grand Tour. The namibia 2-part was pretty funny.

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            TGT is basically Golden Girls but with men.

            It is funny. It has nothing to do with cars, but it’s a hoot.

            I had to download and reinstall the 300G that makes up Ghosts. So I can get it installed and play that since Shady doesn’t like robots. He likes jetpacks, but only COD jetpacks.

            None of that makes any sense at all. Who doesn’t like slamming giant robots into one another? It’s like rock em sockem but in 3d. But whatever, ghosts is more realistic.

          • MB30SD

            every once in a while.

            Hahahhaa golden girls…. they are getting old… and fat

          • willbest

            Aren’t 2 of them dead?

          • willbest

            3 of them are dead. Only Betty White remains.

          • MB30SD

            Oh… hahahaha… I thought you mean Clarkson, Hammond, and May. Hahaha

            https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZ1Sc5xjWpUnp_o_lUTkvgQ

          • willbest

            I see this. Amazon Prime has been pimping it the last month.

          • MB30SD

            good shit… if you’re into that sort of thing.

          • MB30SD

            rumors of their demise have been greatly exaggerated?

          • MB30SD

            I don’t mind it and we can play both. I’m just not a sci fi guy (that rhymed!) when it comes down to it.

            …that and I hate losing, so erra time we pick up a new game (and did they really have to flop the fucking shoot/secondary controls from every single other fucking FPS game) I suck for a period of time… so my total and utter lack of patience coupled with my hatred for losing makes it tough to get into it at first.

    • willbest

      7000 calories a day plus not exercising will do that

    • CanadaBear

      Doesn’t look like they have operated on his labrum. If that’s the case, he’d better start losing some lbs or that rehab will be a toughie for sure. He looks like a chubby gay guy with a skinny fag hag hanging with him. Not a great look.

  • BearDown100393

    Osweiler gets his OC fired. Should really be the GM who signed him in the first place.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Jess.

  • Rack ’em (GP)

    Now that Dallas is knocked out, maybe the NFL can stop dragging on this issue

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/18487786/ezekiel-elliott-dallas-cowboys-probe-nfl-seems-dragging-feet

    • CanadaBear

      Pretty sure it will end up “nothing to see here”. It’s always good to be one of the NFL glamor teams.

      • willbest

        The NFL should not police morality.

        • BearDown100393

          Goddell knows what he is doing.
          Said nobody.

  • Rack ’em (GP)

    http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/01/17/nfl-los-angeles-rams-los-angeles-chargers-oakland-raiders-las-vegas-relocations

    Things that matter: money. cash flow. net valuation. tv revenue as a source of FFCF.

    Things that do not matter: fans. team loyalty. any sense of place or purpose. if the stadium seats 30k or 90k.

    • willbest

      At the rate they are going, they are going to leave a huge opening for another sport. MMA exists because Boxing decided it was going to be corrupt and suck.

      They may have lost like 7% viewership or whatever this year, but the product was 20% worse. And I am not just talking about Bears games. Every time I turned on what I thought would be a good match up this year, I was almost always disappointed. Hell even Wildcard weekend was garbage this year.

      • CanadaBear

        Boxing was always corrupt.

        • willbest

          I suppose I should specify. There are different levels of corruption. Daley Sr. was corrupt but he subscribed to the sheering sheep philosophy. Daley Jr. was all about skinning, and now the city is a few years from bankruptcy.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

          It seemed to reach a new height during the 80s-90s though, Canada.
          Or maybe the 24 hr news cycle revealed their corruption to the avg fan like never before.

          That’s one of the huge reasons I tuned out from boxing

      • MB30SD

        yup… If we’re looking bad (like sub 6-7 win) again next year. I’m gonna stop watching. I’ll prolly still come here to grabass with you clowns, but fuck rodger and fuck the sport formerly known as football. Loosing interest fast. I’ll still go to bars to ‘watch’ since it affords me the opty to see strange

        • CanadaBear

          That’s not real different from this season for me. If the Beloved were on free TV I watched them but made no effort to see the other games. Don’t like sports bars and I sure as hell wasn’t paying for the NFL ticket this year.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, having the kids every sunday either all day or getting them for the night game made me seriously Meh about it all. I’d much rather get shit done, workout, surf, etc…

            I’m more and more disillusioned by rodger’s NFL man. He fucking sucks ass and is forgoing the betterment of the game for cash money. Which I get, but it’s obviously having adverse effects.

            That and our org has been a fucking laughing stock for 10+ years now. That shit gets old. I’m almost over it all.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m a lifer but I don’t let the games control what I do. If I have plans and they are on, I’ll record it and watch it later. Up here I rarely have anyone tell me the score before I get home to watch it. Not to mention, if they are awful the FFWD comes into play.

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            The Pakcers Cowboys game redeemed the post season from Wildcard weekend. Wildcard weekend was an indictment of a slipping product.

            What it suggests is simple: the league needs to contract. It is what is best for football: reduce the number of teams.

            But anything that doesn’t say growth makes capitalist penises shrivel. So it will never happen and we are left with fringe rover teams owned by Machiavellian asswipes.

          • CanadaBear

            As long as the crappy teams are making money they will never contract.

          • MB30SD

            jes

          • willbest

            They could change the rules to stop being so damn dependent on a QB that can throw the ball accurately 40 yards. They are trying to make it harder for place kicking to make it more interesting.

          • BerwynBomber

            KC/PIT was semi-entertaining too. Not just anything near an instant classic like GB/DAL.

          • BillW

            Packers – Cowboys was entertaining to me only because I wanted GB to lose. Had that been two other teams I would have felt “does anyone even THINK about defense anymore?

            Cowboys criticized for leaving so much time on the clock for Rodgers. Only in today’s NFL is 35 seconds considered “so much time”.

            OK – I’m sounding like a guy who is about to officially become a senior citizen in a couple weeks. I’ll shut up and go apply for Medicare now.

          • willbest

            Only because its Rodgers. Anybody but Brees, Brady, or Wilson and you would bet the House on the game going to overtime.

          • SC Dave

            Will:
            “Only because its Rodgers”

            Article cited by GP:
            “Sitting in the Packers’ draft room in 2005, we certainly did not intend to draft a quarterback (we had the most durable QB in NFL history, Brett Favre). However, the top-rated player on our draft board was Rodgers (our other position player targets were all gone) and no one had taken him. Even then, as I got Aaron’s agent on the phone, we waited 10 excruciating minutes to see if someone would call with a trade offer. Crickets. Now the best player in the sport, always making the impossible seem routine, simply fell into Green Bay’s lap.”

            Me:
            *sigh*

          • BillW

            And honestly – do any of us think he’d be the same guy if the Bears drafted him?

            Maybe.

            Would Terry Bradshaw be in the Hall of Fame and would we have won 4 SBs had McCaskey called the coin flip right?

            (I love the story that when we lost the coin flip, some reporter shouted out “MacCaskey – you bum!”

            A sentiment that’s been repeated countless times. – with one fantastic interlude.

          • BerwynBomber

            But shootouts have been happening since the 80s. I get where you are coming from — I would like to see more defense, less pass happy ball too — but I don’t think this anything new. Been going on since the time of Coryell and Walsh.

            Anyway, you should have loved the KC/PIT clash on Sun night.

          • BillW

            Very true – just seems like more the norm now.

            My favorite non-playoff game was the Bears beating SF on Monday night football 10-7 (I think) back in the day. At the end the whole stadium chanted DEFENSE! DEFENSE! I loved it.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            But back then, CBs could actually get physical with WRs/TEs.

            LBs/S could BLAST anyone coming across the middle

            Defenses could actually punish and intimdate QBs (the greatest equalizer).

            Those guys like Moon, Elway, Marino and their weapons…who put up points back in the days earned every yd

          • BerwynBomber

            Don’t know if I buy the game was more violent back in (name an earlier era) except in terms of QB protection. But do you want to see a league where every other team is starting a Matt Barkely-level dude because their starter is down? QBs still drop like flies. Look at our season this year re: Cutty and Hoyer.

            I’m generally fine with the protect-the- QB rules it is just that you unfortunately get some bad call — either in favor of QB or sometimes in favor of the D.

            But I would agree that CBs could chuck more than they do now. At least the league has started calling more OPI in recent years. So that has helped a bit.

          • BillW

            Don’t know if I buy the game was more violent back in (name an earlier era)

            Ask anyone clotheslined by Night Train Lane (yes – that used to be legal)

          • BillW

            And the only reason they protect the QB so much is the rules made it a serious competitive disadvantage if your QB is down and there’s isn’t. That wasn’t’ the case when playing defense was legal.

            The days of having competent backups is gone in part because “competence” is relative. In today’s NFL, you have have a great QB if you go up against a great QB.

            The Cowboys had Staubach and Danny White. Montana and Young. Heck – even McMahon and Tomczak is better than the 1-2 most teams have today. Tomczak wasn’t great but you could compensate with defense and running (even with Payton on the downside and the very good but no HOFer Neil Anderson).

          • BerwynBomber

            Nonsense. Young was a HoFer. It’s like saying Rodgers was once Favre’s back-up. McMahon? He wasn’t Mr. Elite himself and Tomczak was a good back-up. It’s like going from Cutler to Hoyer. Ultimately, the drop off is not enormous.
            Moreover, just last year DEN won the SB with the worst QB in the league.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            28 team format? You really think 4 less teams is the answer? No my man, the death of the expense account is to blame. That and the bean counters and lawyers.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            I think 28 teams might be a good start.

            And it’s not even the talent at different positions but the LACK of good QBs.

            In no universe should these have started…Kap/Gabbert, Keenum, Kessler, RG3, Oz, Fitz, Barkley, McGloin, Matt Moore, Bortles…

            but teams had NO choice in playing them for important stretches

            (and that’s not even counting the borderline guys like Cutler).

            When real QBs like Brady, Vadgers go up against these chumps, they’re already at a huge advantage, which makes for suckier product.

            Needing 4 less QBs would DEFINITELY increase parity and competitiveness, but the NFL only cares about those when it makes $$$ not as ends in themselves.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I’ve thought about these exact things. QB’s were tough as nails back in the day. Most of em are pussies now.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            I don’t even know if it’s aboout being pussies.

            LBs, CBs, Dlinemen have gotten bigger, faster, twitchier.

            QBs (outside of a few like Cam) are still relatively the same size, speed, build.

            It’s like a cold war in an alternate universe when USSR never got the a bomb.

            One side got upgraded drastically while the other merely modestly.

            Also, back in the days, they were pill-popping and injecting like crazy.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Back in the day, QB’S could morph into crazed maniacs. Nobody gave that much emphasis on perfect spirals, just winning. It’s the players mentality that has changed I think.

          • BerwynBomber

            Really? Smh …

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Football used to be played for Glory. Now it’s played for a 401K. Huge diff.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            A buddy of mine played against Tomzak in H.S. the dude literally cried when he’d take a good hit. Total pus and even he made it on an NFL team back in the day.

          • BillW

            Carrying this thought a while – and in light of the article GP posted – contraction probably wouldn’t decrease revenue that much if at all.

            I’ll admit I’m not thinking this through so I may be full of it, but you’d have the same number of nationally televised games. If ticket sales don’t generate that much revenue (the article makes that point) then little loss there.

            A better product (theoretcially) for the remaining 28.

            you could expand rosters (which teams want to do anyway due to injuries) to at least partially offset the reduction.

            AND – you could (perhaps ) start a league run minor league for developing players.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            The last point would be a good complement to increasing revenue, and a developmental would theoretically also make the NFL a better product long term while perhaps filling that void between when the Sb ends and Camp starts.

          • MB30SD

            yeah I’m not a TV guy in general (never seen walking dead or thrones or any of those), so I purposefully didn’t spring for the DVR.

            We’ll see how I feel next year. I’ve been slowly getting back into college ball more and more each year too

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            “Lifer” is the correct term!

          • BerwynBomber

            Nah. NHL needs to definitely contract but not the NFL. But yeah, Goodell can be shown the door any minute and I’d be all for it. He proved himself a disaster soon after Bountygate broke, and the fact that he got caught in his own trap by the Ray Rice situation came as no surprise.

            Edit: my reply was actually in response to GP below.

          • SC Dave

            The seven Super Bowls we’re winning in the next eight years will solve all your problems!

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha, your mouth to god’s ears my maings

          • SC Dave

            Gamepass was $99. Not excessive in my mind.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, but that’s only replays, correct?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            I respect you ole timers even more.
            Don’t know how you guys (like All and even Bill) watched since the 60s and didn’t check out in the mid 90s.

          • BillW

            The mid 90s got my name to skyrocket up the season ticket waiting list. (My dad gave up his season tickets when they moved to Soldier field – I was too young to buty them from him. My friend got tickets in 1976 and I got two every year through him but Wanny made him give them up too.

            My boys have them ut two games went unused this year. My older son – God will bless him as will my late father, uncle, and grandfather – could not let the Packer game go unused., He wasn’t going to go but something compelled him..

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Is this why people start following the antichrist?

          • MB30SD

            packers are the anti-christ… I’ll never follow those fuckers

          • BillW

            There’s an Chicago Irish song with the lyric “we have two favorite ball teams – the go-go White Sox and whoever plays the Cubs”.

            Just as we have two favorite teams – the second one was the Dallas Cowboys and now it’s the Atlanta Falcons. I hope it doesn’t become the NE Patriots.

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            white people or regular people?

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

          I feel exactly the same. Sometime in early Dec, I just realized, “This sucks.”

          And yeah, like Will said, it’s not just Bears game. Like EVERY game I watched there were insanely stupid calls that just made me more mad than entertained.

          I can almost guarantee that the one big draw for all of us were the big hits.

          Now, ANY big hit gets flagged unless it’s like in that 1 inch window, and even then, it’ll likely get flagged.

          The defense keeps getting more and more handicapped, and the NFL just assumes fans want it to become Arena football, when we don’t.

          Texans games might’ve been boring as fuck, but at least their “success” provides another blueprint to the SB, though we all knew the outcome to them since we all know the NFL does everything possible to not only favor QBs, but also certain teams like the Pats, Puke, Steelers, etc.

          It’s just all getting so grueling.

          If the Bears ride with Cutler next year or do some equally stupid shit, I might be out too. Not worth it.

          The Cubs winning the WS was actually eye-opening for me.

          As joyous as it was, it also reminded me of SOOOOOOOO many decades of futility, suffering and heartbreak…generations of crushed hopes and needless anger and energy expended…

          Fuck that.

          Life’s too short.

          • MB30SD

            exactly. fuck that man… why keep dragging myself through all the seemingly endless misery

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            I reached this point 3 years ago.

            Which is why I don’t really give 3 fucks anymore. Or two.

            Basically I have no fucks to give.

          • MB30SD

            i’m almost there… one more year.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            Now we know why Cutler is the perfect Bears QB. Even when he’s gone, we should adopt him as the new mascot

            Doooooont caaaareee

            https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-KZ0dnCEN9iY/WAqjr340UAI/AAAAAAAAQKc/0onrSOwg-jYBSERXRnNYVZK4XjoNPV6-wCLcB/s1600/Csw7n7vUAAAbQDb.jpg-orig.png

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I’m well beyond both of you guys. I’ve been faking football orgasms for years now.

    • BillW

      Thanks for the link. This backs up my earlier post on how so few teams are in any real contention in any given year – since the league focused so heavily on offense and therefore making a great QB very close to necessary – when there are nearly so few great QBs in the league and nothing to indicate that will change.

    • Tortured Bear fan

      Teddy did you Hack GP?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      “Ming the Merciless” runs the NFL.

  • willbest

    My money is on it being Fuller.

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C2VPd6MUUAAggmy.jpg

  • Rack ’em (GP)
    • willbest

      I love that sexy innocence look. You want to do all kinds of naughty and depraved things to her while protecting her at the same time.

      • SC Dave

        Somehow I doubt she’s very innocent.

        • willbest

          Probably not, but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the look.

    • RenoBear

      I’ve wanted to rock that world since her first att commercial like a year and a half ago… that rack, those curves? And the cute innocent-type face? I’d do it right in front of my wife… even she’d probably join in…

  • BerwynBomber

    I imagine Browns fans also bitch about it being a QB-friendly league.

    • willbest

      And Jags, Texans, Raiders before Carr, and all the other have nots.

      • BerwynBomber

        Raiders do not have QB ineptitude that is near ours in the SB era. Texans and Jags haven’t been around as long as the Clowns and us.

  • SC Dave

    Looks like this guy had it called (check the date). As usual, I had to mute the sound.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4vGvrr9PzY

  • MB30SD
    • Rack ’em (GP)

      Are you 5’5″ or shorter?

      You would need to be to drive that car. The crew of Magnum PI basically had to pull the dash out these cars to get Selleck in the car and then his head stuck out anyway.

      • MB30SD

        Really? 5’10” dressed

      • That Guy

        And that is why I can never get into sports cars. I’m 6’2″; I’m not even comfortable in a sedan.

        • MB30SD

          you’re 6’2″ MS?!? Damn, didn’t see that coming… for some reason. Us Jews usually aren’t that big. haha

          • That Guy

            If I didn’t have an arm like a wet noodle, I’d be the prototypical NFL QB.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha… it’s the payot that give you away.

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            Like Bernie Kozar! Jew QB!

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            Racist!

          • MB30SD

            jes… I fucking hate erraone (until I meet them)

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Mmm… I was 5’10 185 lbs when I drove that exact model from Boston to L.A. Had plenty of room. Even gave a chick a ride in my lap one night. With the exception of the shifter occasionally getting in the, there was plenty of room. He he

        • MB30SD

          I’m almost exactly that size, maybe 190 and more than likely a much bigger cock. hahaha ; )

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Yes but I still have hair. It’s a trade off. Hee hee.

          • MB30SD

            i’ll take the big cock erra time!

            Right butch? See what I did there? you’re welcome

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            One day in a dress and you’re already talking like a slut. Hahaha

          • MB30SD

            oh, I’d be a total slut if I was a chick

        • Rack ’em (GP)

          I meant taller than 5’5″ in REALITY. Not dreams.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Lol. It was a fun trip.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Hero was an awesome dude. I think he was a distant cousin of mine.

      • MB30SD

        : /

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Hero of Alexander? Real dude.

          • MB30SD

            yes, I know. back off the history channel there nero

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            My favorite subject? Never!!!

  • Rack ’em (GP)
    • willbest

      Depends on if they showed you the best parts or not.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

      Looks pretty fucking funny to me.
      Then again, I love dark comedies and pissing into 18 yr old mouths…

      • Rack ’em (GP)

        I love dark comedies. And… uh… long walks on beaches…

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

          I like long walks on the beaches too…the gold flickering off of the water…

          • Rack ’em (GP)
          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

            bwhaha

            Republican presidents = comedy gold.

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            Tinkle Tailor Soldier Spy

          • willbest

            Make comedy great again.

    • willbest

      In other movie news, a remake of White men can’t jump is in the works.

      • Rack ’em (GP)

        Imma gonna go….

        Jamie Foxx and…. Will Ferrell….

        • willbest

          I would watch.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Pass.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

        Probably a chick in Woody’s role.

    • CanadaBear

      Could go either way but I’d watch it.

  • BearDown100393

    Nelson better have dropped that ball in the photo.

    • BillW

      I’m sure we got flagged for PI

      • AlbertInTucson

        No, I think that was the 3rd down bomb that set up Crosby’s winner.

        Remember when Crosby looked like he was headed foir the scrap heap a couple seasons ago?

        • MB30SD

          smh

          • AlbertInTucson

            That 2nd attempt sure started out like it was going to go wide right.

    • MB30SD

      wasn’t that the 50 yard bomb to set up the winning field goal?

  • Rack ’em (GP)

    As an undergrad, there was this kid from Cleveland I knew. Browns fan. As we were in A2, I give the kid a ride home for the holidays even though Cleveland is the fuck out of the way and this pre-dates the Rock n Roll HOF so literally there is no reason to go there, but I had a car and he gave me gas money and paid for food and you’re an undergrad – you help your friends out if you can.

    Anyhow, get to his parents house and they have this black Minah bird. Talking damn Minah bird.

    It says “Koh-zar” and “Browns suck” and “high five”. That’s all it says.

    I just remember the way it said Bernie Kozar’s name. Like Koh-czar.

    It was weird and funny.

    • MB30SD

      smartest birds around cept for the grey african supposedly.

      My ex had one growing up. Smart as fuck. But dude, those things like for like 50 years!! Can you imagine putting up with that shit every couple minutes for 50 years?!??

      People who own birds like that are bizarre. don’t get it.

      • Rack ’em (GP)

        It’s hard to imagine there is a bird older than I am.

      • CanadaBear

        A guy’s marriage is dead and he’s looking for a companion. He goes into a pet store and there is a parrot in the back talking up a storm. The guy goes back and he and the bird hit it off. The owner of the store sells it to him for $50. The guy wants to know why so cheap and the owner said because it has no legs. The guy asks how is it on the perch? The owner says he wraps his penis around it. Good enough.

        The guy takes him home and they become great friends. His wife still has no interest in him so he spends most of his time with the bird. One night he comes home from work and the bird tells him his wife is cheating on him with the mailman. He asks is he sure? Yes, he saw them. He asks what happened? The parrot said she answered the door in her nightgown, invited the mailman in and they started kissing, caressing and disrobing. He asks, then what happened? The parrot said, I don’t know, I fell off the perch.

        • Rack ’em (GP)

          3 thumbs up!

        • MB30SD

          hahahaha

    • CanadaBear

      I was 19 and stoned standing in the neighbor girl’s entryway and their mynah bird told me to go to hell. Good times.

  • BillW

    Jeff’s tweet made me look. “Now let’s do it again in ApriL”

    Three Bears on the PFWA All-Rookie team –
    Howard, Whitehair, Floyd.

    It makes us come back to the beloved in 2017..

  • Rack ’em (GP)
    • MB30SD

      Butch?

      Now that we’ve been talking about it, I kinda want a chick to pee on me. NOT THE FACE!

      Just to see what it’s like. I imagine it’s an easier conv than telling one you want to pee on them. Start small and work work my way up.

      • Rack ’em (GP)

        like… just a few drops and work up to full showers?

        like when you were a kid and learned to swim — start in the shallows.

        • MB30SD

          I have no clue… maybe … “hey babe, wanna pee on me, i’ve never done it before. let’s give it a shot?”

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            and you could get a Minah bird! It could say “pee on me” and “hey babe”

          • MB30SD

            I’d rather just get peed on.

            Who knows if I’ll ever go through with it… it doesn’t gross me out so why not.

            I AM def going to lie down and get squirted on the next time I find a squirter. Never actually done her standing me lying before… usually the opposite.

          • MB30SD

            btw, think this is what jeff means when he brags to all his twatter users that the comments section is so busy?

          • Rack ’em (GP)
          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Peeing is only alowed during marathon sessions. Not the 5 minute sessions you’re used to.

          • MB30SD

            I WISH 5 whole minutes.

            If I make it past 2 minutes, I do a fucking victory lap!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Lol. Didn’t your momma ever tell you…. nevermind.

          • MB30SD

            nope

  • MB30SD
    • Rack ’em (GP)

      Great history of Can-Am.

      https://blog.hemmings.com/index.php/2016/02/05/fifty-years-later-theres-still-no-racing-like-the-original-can-am-series/

      Can-Am’s moment in the sun was 70-73. I am a bit young to exactly remember that ABC Sport used to carry the races live.

      Can-Am had some of the greatest greatest cars. THere was a revival at Brand Hatch:
      https://youtu.be/vEuKouXXAdA?t=162

      A couple laps in a Can-Am at Brands. That would be on my bucket list. The weight, the girth, the grip on slicks. Car would be SUCH a handful. Would love love love that.

      • MB30SD

        Nice. I’ve been to a few F1 races. Long Beach and Del Mar when they were here.

        IMSA/Camel lights was as close as I ever got… was always interesting to watch. Weird juxtaposition to watch the big boys roar past the little guys. I’d like to check out Drakkar at some point.

        • Rack ’em (GP)

          Do you mean the Dakar Rally?

          Drakkar is a cologne.

          • MB30SD

            spell check. Funny it picked the cologne of the arabs instead of the place/race.

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            IMSA street racing was also great. IMSA GT is more of our time.

          • MB30SD

            never did IMSA street. I love watching rally when I can find it.

            left 3
            right 5
            down 1

            cool stuff.

          • Rack ’em (GP)

            Paul Newman used to drive a Datsun (pre-Nissan) 280ZX in IMSA.

            https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/78/75/3c/78753c5be962549e6a3205f406eecdb9.jpg

      • CanadaBear

        I kinda, sorta remember ABC carrying that back then but I wasn’t into it.

  • Rack ’em (GP)

    Mike Tomlin talks some shit about the Pats and Brown feeds it out on Facebook Live with his phone

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000775119/article/mike-tomlin-steelers-spotted-patriots-a-day-and-half

    Tomlin’s words are not that big a deal – they spotted the Pats one day of prep and they are gonna go in there and rain shit on the Pats. But man, live streaming a NFL locker room when the coach doesn’t know you are doing that? Ouch.

    • willbest

      Its a violation of the league’s contract with NBC/CBS/FOX/ESPN too.

    • willbest

      Tomlin should bench him for 1 play. I know its a WR instead of a QB but I am sure it will somehow bite them in the ass a la Cam

    • MB30SD
      • CanadaBear

        Even in the clip they allude to the fact that he’s a moron.

        • MB30SD

          yes, but it’s so awesome and I love it so much.

    • CanadaBear

      Can’t imagine Brown’s teammates are very happy with him.

      • AlbertInTucson

        SOME of them were cheering him on at the time.

    • BearDown100393

      Joey Porter fails to understand why this is a problem.

  • MB30SD
    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      I don’t click on links anymore.

    • SC Dave

      Missed it. Nice

  • Scharfinator

    I snorted and spat up my coffee at work with this. It explains Reid’s clock management skills (none) perfectly.

    https://www.facebook.com/MEMES.of.the.NFL/photos/a.333078710072157.76242.332968243416537/1372612136118804/?type=3&theater

    • Bender McLugh

      It’s that the same menu you snagged your CD pic?

      Edit: smashed? Autocorrect rocks

  • EnderWiggin
    • SC Dave

      Lol… really

    • MB30SD

      hahaha

    • Rack ’em (GP)

      Rainbow sprinkles lol

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  • Rack ’em (GP)

    Willy B

    Fun fact: white men can’t jump is Stanley Kubricks favorite movie

    Google it

    • MB30SD

      GP, little ghosts tonight?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Cannot stand that movie.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

      lol I refuse to google that!

  • MB30SD
  • BerwynBomber

    I speculated on this Sunday night. Looks like the ratings backed my hunch and will lead to a permanent change of NFL post-season scheduling.

    http://awfulannouncing.com/2017/sundays-nfl-divisional-playoff-games-draw-monster-overnight-ratings.html

  • Huge Bears Penis
    • beninnorcal

      Wow. I guess that’s one way to greet people.

    • MB30SD

      that’s how I greet everyone, what’s the problem?!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow, look at the numbers on Whitehair’s running game.

    I thought Deiondre was our best corner. Don’t know why he wasn’t out there more.

    • willbest

      He was hurt

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)
  • Big Mike
  • Big Mike

    Brandon Marshall to be released by the Jets 🙂

    https://twitter.com/120Sports/status/821530239784390656

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Forget-Me-Naught!(Butch)

      We all gave it 2 yrs.
      Has it been 2 yrs?

      I’m sure Irish and a few others will be clamoring for Bmarsh over Alshon now.

      But it can’t be a coincidence that wherever bmarsh goes, lockeroooms become toxic.

      • Big Mike

        I believe last year was his 2nd with the Jets. 1 year before Forte. I thought the first post would be about bringing him back to Chicago LMAO.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Where Bambi goes, nothing grows.” – Hudson & Landry.

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