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Bears Fans Should Love Pace’s Aggressiveness

| May 3rd, 2017

“I don’t want to be average around here, I want to be great and these are the moves you have to make.”-Ryan Pace

For the first time in my lifetime, at least the parts I can remember, the Bears have a General Manager who gets it.

They have a GM who doesn’t just want to make the playoffs or compete with the rest of the division.

They have a GM who wants to kick everybody’s ass.

And, for some reason, people are mad about it.

The Bears have been in this position of wanting and needing a QB in the draft twice in my lifetime. The first time, they traded out from the seventh pick in a seven-player draft to go down to 12, where they took Cade McNown. The next time, they were picking fourth and traded with the Jets for the 14th and 22nd picks. They didn’t like a quarterback until pick 22 when they settled for Rex Grossman, the fourth guy in the first round.

If they loved McNown, they would’ve taken him seventh. If they loved Grossman, they would’ve taken him fourth. They didn’t and neither move worked out.

The Bears loved Mitch Trubisky. It wasn’t just Ryan Pace, it was everybody in the room. He was their guy and they got him. As a Bears fan, this is refreshing to see.

Here’s what I think happened…

Bears fans were convinced the team wasn’t going to take a quarterback. Some had even convinced themselves that Mike Glennon was Matt Ryan 2.0 — so, they looked at other positions and decided the Bears had needs that didn’t really exist.

Solomon Thomas was the favorite in the clubhouse. I get it, he’s big and he’s athletic. We also have no idea if he can be a linebacker in the Bears scheme and we know he can’t be a defensive lineman. Jamal Adams has a worse vertical jump than 92 percent of the safeties in the NFL (according to Mockdraftable) and the leadership skills he supposedly has that were going to change the Bears franchise weren’t enough to keep his college coach from getting fired. Jon Allen, Malik Hooker and Marshon Lattimore all had medical questions that the doctors for several teams weren’t comfortable with.

The Bears were going to take a quarterback because quarterback made the most sense. It was a position of need and a position that was strong in this draft. The most important part is that they got their quarterback.

And, for some reason, people are mad about it.

A Flaw That Isn’t a Flaw

Trubisky was going to be the second pick in the draft. The thought that the 49ers tricked the Bears or whatever it was that people were saying has been mostly debunked. Pace spoke to 15 teams behind him, you don’t think a large number of those teams were interested in quarterbacks? Specifically, the guy most teams had as their top quarterback?

Trubisky’s so-called fatal flaw is that he didn’t play enough. (Although Brad Biggs’ theory that North Carolina thought keeping him on the bench would get them another year with him is interesting.) The simple fact is he threw nearly as many collegiate passes as Aaron Rodgers and Carson Wentz. He played in more games than Rodgers and against much tougher competition than Wentz. And he was better than both.

He’s got everything you could want physically. A strong, accurate arm, great mobility and the kind of build that can take hits.

And, for some reason, people are mad about it.

The Brees Factor

Taking quarterbacks in the top three is a relatively safe bet. From 2000 to 2015, only five quarterbacks taken in the top three have really busted. Out of those busts, you had guys who couldn’t throw (Joey Harrington, Vince Young) a guy who was broken by the teams that drafted him (David Carr) and two who just didn’t want to put the work in (RG3, JaMarcus Russell).

Maybe Trubisky will be one of those guys, but Pace spent a long time with a franchise quarterback. Pace was a part of the pro scouting team that targeted Drew Brees. If you doubt his impact in that signing, consider that the very next year, he was promoted to Director of Professional Scouting. That wasn’t an accident.

With the Saints, he got to know Brees. Saw what makes the guy tick and was in position to understand the traits that franchise quarterbacks have. Drafting quarterbacks is a crapshoot, but Pace is certainly qualified to get to take his shot. Consider this: The last two years, his favorite quarterbacks have been Marcus Mariota and Carson Wentz.

I just don’t understand how people can be mad about it.

Pace’s job isn’t done.

As we learned from Jerry Angelo, finding the quarterback is only half the battle, but I think Pace has a good head start on the rest of the roster.

A general rule of thumb is to add a quarterback as the first piece or the last piece. The plan is for Trubisky to be the last piece. He’ll sit for much of this year and the team will have all of next offseason to address needs in the secondary, along the offensive line and, potentially, wide receiver. He’s already shown the ability to find players at other positions.

Whether or not John Fox is the right guy to develop Trubisky is another question that doesn’t have a short answer. While the rumors of friction between the two are false (I have very few sources in the NFL, but two I have are close to Fox) it’s possible that Pace sees him as a sacrificial lamb, along with Glennon.

Ultimately, Pace will be judged on Trubisky. He knows that and, clearly, he’s comfortable with that.

And I’m comfortable with a GM who can identify the players he wants and makes damn sure he gets them. Fans should be too.

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  • I don’t think NC deliberately kept him on the bench hoping to have him for another year. I think their head coach is just too caught up in the safe, traditional approach (just like John Fox).

    Heard him talking on the radio the day after the draft, and he said Trubisky was ready to start 2 years ago, but he decided to stick with the safe veteran who they had won some games with the 2 years prior. Even as that season went south and the veteran struggled, he stuck with him. Sound familiar?

    • K Dub

      Yep, sure does…

    • Andrew Dannehy

      I’m pretty sure the two years ago comment was about 2015, when they went 11-1. I heard an interview with him in which he said Trubisky wasn’t ready as a redshirt freshman. He was ready as a sophomore, but coach wanted to stick with the known guy.

      Another story I read was that Trubisky was named the starter the spring before that season, but the coach changed his mind for some unknown reasons. The other players on the team lobbied for Trubisky, but they were winning.

  • K Dub

    I’m a wait and see kind of guy. Pace is clearly a gambler who likes athleticism and upside. Kevin White, Leonard Floyd and Mitchell Trubisky (along with Shaheen and Cohen) all fit this philosophy. I’m fine with that. It’s risky for sure, but it’s difficult to become a great team without high upside athletes. Plus, he’s already shown he can identify solid to great “football players” (who might not be top level athletes) later in the draft like Cody Whitehair and Jordan Howard.

    As far as Fox being the coach that gets these guys to the next level, I don’t know. Pace is certainly extending that timeline by drafting projects like Floyd, Trubisky and Shaheen. Fox has his work cut out for him this year. He didn’t get much improvement on his roster. Some mid-level free agents and projectable athletes that likely won’t contribute much this season. Good luck, John.

    Off topic, whenever Fox goes, I’d like to see the Bears hire a tough, demanding coach. Someone like Mike Singletary. Push these athletes. Challenge them. Get the most out of them. I’m not saying that’s not happening now. I don’t know. But I do know that Singletary is no holds barred, and the city would be charged up about his return. That’s not a small thing. That makes a difference.

    This team needs some attitude. It needs some crazy. It needs some fun. It needs an edge. Someone like Singletary would bring that.

    Until then, I’m fully behind Fox, and I’m hoping Pace knows what he’s doing.

    • SC Dave

      No thanks on Singletary.

      • CanadaBear

        Double secret probation no thanks on Samurai. Just because people were great players for the Bears and are good people off the field, it doesn’t mean they are good coaches. Samurai might make a nice inspirational speaker out on the circuit but he sucks as a HC. That has been proven.

        • BearDown100393

          “Can’t Win With’Em. Can’t Do It.” – Mike Singletary Motivational Seminar Slogan.

      • MB30SD

        hell no!

        Great player, interesting guy, but a fucking lunatic and a turrible coach

    • BearDown100393

      He’s at Michigan

    • MB30SD

      K DUB!!!

      Do we now have TWO rappers commenting!? I’m calling for a fucking rap-off right now!

      • BearDown100393

        8 Mile

    • Captain Obvious

      I love me some SIngletary, but he was crap as a head coach.

      I’ll take Harbs, though. Harbs + Trubs = glory.

  • King of DBB

    I remember this exact post about Phil Emery. Jeff singing Phil’s praises and crowing about how we finally got a GM who “gets it”.

    Homerism is nice. Unfettered fanboy just keeps the current regime in power.

    And Jeff, ever the blogger who loves to say ‘I told you so’ will be silent when this shit show ends in tears

    • Scharfinator

      I understand your sentiment, though Andrew appears to have written this one.

      • BearDown100393

        Einhorn. Finkle.

    • CanadaBear

      Have you even considered that Trubisky pans out? I totally agree with what you wrote but Jeff/Andrew almost have to stay positive or else they have to go the other way and act like Rosendouche/Marioti/Lincicome etc. I don’t know about you but that would drive me away in a heartbeat.

      • BearDown100393

        Have to stay positive vs have to say honest opinion

        • MB30SD

          exactly… there’s GOT to be a middle ground, cause this is drivel.

          I don’t read a ton of jeff’s stuff anyway… I come here to grabass with you morons, but lawdy lawd… this was too much.

          • BearDown100393

            The free form of wind twisting opinion regarding da giraffe and da draft is quite uh……. notable. Go Bears!

        • CanadaBear

          I think there is some common ground there. I do it all the time promoting music performers. They may not be my fave but I can always find something positive to promote.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I don’t see how fans can be so negative all the time about everything. New coaches, draft picks, immediately negative on. Guys that have not even played a down, and some fans already assume they suck. The GM had one of the best drafts in a couple decades, the next year his draft doesn’t jive with them and it’s all of a sudden a shit show and everyone should be fired. I understand shock to what happened in the draft, we should be questioning all the small school picks. It is ok to be a bit skeptical. But even before the draft, fans were claiming they won’t support the team if certain things happened in the draft, and now fans are calling for firings. Anyone that tries to put a positive spin on anything is immediately called out for homerism and being an unfettered fanboy, as if it somehow wrong and evil to have hope and be a bit optimistic. It is a bit ridiculous.

        • beninnorcal

          I’m with you, HBP. I’m willing to wait and see how this draft looks next year. I was upset about what we gave up to get Trubisky, but in hindsight, that was the going rate for the move.
          I’m hoping he rides pine this year.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I would be alright with him on the bench this year, but I am hoping he performs good enough that it forces the coaches to play him.

          • BearDown100393

            There really is only one reason to switch a quarterback. No wins.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Let him sit this year. And if necessary next year as well. Why are we so willing to rush the kid when we don’t have the right supporting cast around him. If he fails right now we will all complain that he is a bust.

        • willbest

          No doubt. I was mad because I want a Denver or Seattle D. We never have any luck finding the next Marino, but our D has been great at several points in history.

          But I am all about giving Pace’s vision a chance. Just not really feeling too excited about this year. Its like getting a PS4 and then being told I am not going to get any games to play on it until next christmas.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Key word is VISION. Pace has once. Can anyone really say that Emery and Angelo had a vision for this team that you could actually believe in and see coming to fruition. Most of us are mad because we thing Pace is moving away from the vision that he sold us on.

            It like you get in a cab and the driver say he can get you to you to the airport on time and your are mad because you are stuck in traffic even though you have not missed your flight yet.

        • King of DBB

          And I cannot understand why you guys live in a reality bubble.

          Seriously, I just do NOT get it.

          The national NFL press has been EXTREMELY critical of this draft. And please don’t say it’s beacuse Pace pulled a fast one on them, not every national journalist is in the pocket of ownership.

          Whenever I post a strong, fact based article I get the same spittle from you guys: “Oh that guy is hack… blah blah”

          The journalists are not hacks. Not ALL of them. Other GMs being quoted anonymously are not made up fake news.

          The local Chicago press? They are on my side. Bigly. Hugely.

          Haugh thinks the draft was a crime against Chicago sports fans. Even Biggsy thinks the later picks were all wasted, the ones we DID NOT give away.

          So, basically, it’s the REST OF THE WORLD and me versus a bunch of regs here who WILL NOT depart the bandwagon even when their beloved team is PLAYING THEM FOR FUCKING FOOLS.

          Seriously. Eventually Blackhawks fans voted with their money. Attendance plummeted and they put Rocky in charge.

          THE SAME THING NEEDS TO HAPPEN TO THE CHICAGO BEARS.

          If you guys would STOP BEING SUCH FUCKING HOMERS and actually realize that ownership needs to change, and UNTIL IT DOES, you are going to get strung along on a chain of 8-8 seasons, nothing will change.

          I am actually the BIGGER FAN than all of you. Most of you don’t even fucking live in Chicago. I care more about the organization and the team and the tradition that the PEOPLE WHO OWN THE TEAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          Shit, sometimes I think Waffle and I are the only local fans in this place.

          Christ.

          • BearDown100393

            Oh wow. All caps. Shit got serious.

          • CanadaBear

            Really? You’re a bigger fan because you live there. Please. I literally have not spent any money directly on the Bears since the 70’s. So how am I supporting ownership by being positive? Are they getting residuals from my good vibes? FFS GP, just because we’re not blindly falling in line behind you doesn’t make us the reason the Bears suck.

          • King of DBB

            Canada –

            You go on hoping for sunny skies. I get it, hope sells.

            But eventually being local helps clarify some things. You can ask the locals here, like Waffle, like cubsnlinux, whomever you want to ask:

            Nobody in the press here things ANYTHING OTHER than we got plaaaaayed.

          • CanadaBear

            I know that. I’ve been reading everything I can about it. But of all the people I wouldn’t believe the Chicago media is at the top of the list. Esp since they are all private contractors these days and clicks sell. I didn’t like the draft either but until they prove they are totally inept what’s the harm in being positive? Look like a sap around here? BFD. You can make a case for every pick. For or against.

          • Sactowns#1

            Amen!! As I stated in a previous post, I don’t need to “wait and see”. If everyone I talk to tells me the sky is blue, then why would I need to “wait and see” if it actually is blue. Every logical, thinking person knows this was a crappy draft by Pace/ the Bears.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            But there is a scientific reason that the sky is blue. There really is no science when it comes to drafting, else no team would ever draft a bust.

          • Sactowns#1

            Fine. Is murder morally wrong? I mean, I know the overwhelming majority of people think it is but I’m more of a “wait and see” kinda guy.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            it is morally wrong but then again innocent until PROVEN guilty, or they take a plea deal.

          • MB30SD

            I think pace should take a fucking plea deal right now. baaahahahaha

          • Sahr Gborie

            SAVAGE…but what if hes innocent?

          • MB30SD

            fuggim

          • Sahr Gborie

            innocent until proven guilty is a man made concept. and innocent until proven guilty only counts when you are white or rich. when you are black you are guilty until proven innocent.

            ever wonder why when you are falsely accused of a crime and you lose your job and are ran though the mud the police never come out and apologize and say they made a mistake and try to rectify the mistake they made by helping you put your life back together

          • Sahr Gborie

            You sir are an ass. Murder is morally wrong regardless of the reason. You took a life. Even taking your own life is morally wrong. Everyone has a natural intrinsic value that should never be tramples on for any reason. Yes in certain cases you can justify murder but that does not make it morally wrong.

            By the way I am a Philosophy/Criminal Justice major just so you know.

          • Sactowns#1

            Is that why your answer had no reasoning or logic tied to it? Murder is wrong because the majority of people say it is. is eating a horse wrong? What about a dog? Why or why not? I mean, society used to eat horse meat all the time, so why did we stop?

          • MB30SD

            Ahem

          • King of DBB

            MB cares too. He cares the most of out of town fans.

            He doesn’t endure Metra trains full of cucks and fair weather assholes wearing Packer gear, but he cares.

          • MB30SD

            I do, enough not to after shit product for this long.

            I endure fucking Packer fans at my gym… who were born in LA and have never been to fucking wiscaaahnsin. Which is worse?

          • King of DBB

            well you get to see how many of your local Charger fans decide to carry support to LA. I guess that is the same thing.

            Should be interesting to see how many San Diego locals decide to become Ram fans. Not many, since that’s a crap club.

            I have a GREAT DEAL of respect for the homeowners of San Diego, of which you are one, to not let ownership fuck your taxes to get their new stadium.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Fan from the word Fanatic

            1 a person filled with excessive and single-minded zeal, especially for a cause
            2 an enthusiastic devotee (as of a sport or a performing art) usually as a spectator
            3 an ardent admirer or enthusiast

            I’m not a fan of the Trubisky pick but hes part of the team now and deserves a chance. If he does not work we gave up two 3rd’s for him. If he wins us a SB who cares. Risk v Reward. Risking two 3rds for the chance at a SB is well worth it. No defensive player was/is going to make the same kind of impact that a QB can/will make unless they sack the QB on ever down.

            Yes it can be frustrating. It can leave you hear broken. But its all
            worth it when they reward you with a Packers win, an NFC Championship
            and a SB win. Its not going to be an easy ride. There will be lots of
            rough patches but I trust in Pace. 3-13, 0-16 or 16-0 I will ride for the Bears and Mitch.

          • Bender McLugh

            THE MOST!

          • MB30SD

            almost

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Wow where to begin.
            1. I have no problem with anyone being critical of the draft. But half you guys ran with stories from the press that were basically half truths at best. Like the story that Trubs didn’t meet with the Bears before the draft. You cucks got the stories you wanted to hear and ran with them as reasons to be pissed. There is a reason they call the offseason the season of LYING! Hint that comes to reporting too.
            2. I called one writer a Hack. basically because I don’t like him for reasons I stated the other day.
            3. Even your precious media flip flop. ie. Haugh stated before the draft that Pace needed to be bold and draft Watson at 3. But all of a sudden Pace was to bold because he gave up a couple mid rounders to get the QB he wanted. If he drafted Watson instead would Haugh be pissed?
            4. I am fine with being critical of the small school draftees, but at least let em play a down before you crucify them.
            5.Why don’t you stop being so NAIVE when it comes to Ownership. IT IS NOT GOING TO CHANGE! They already have succession plans in place for Virginia dies. No matter what fans do the ownership is NOT CHANGING. see I can capitalize crap too.
            6. The only way you are a BIGGER FAN than any of us is if you are referring to douchebaggery, if you imply that just because you live in Chicago makes you somehow better than any of us. You can take the steaming load of CRAP and shove it right up your fucking ASS!!!!!!! And go fuck yourself for even thinking that crap.

          • King of DBB

            Stick it up your ass. Seriously, I will beat your ass down. you wanna go, come to Chicago and we will GO. Fuck you.

            You’re a fucking snowflake. All the press who is critical are hacks, and anything but fucking bandwagon is un-acceptable.

            You take your sunshine and rainbows and shove it up your ass

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            HAHAHAHAHA!!!! resorting to violence SMFH!

          • Sahr Gborie

            Well played Sir. Well played.

        • BearDown100393

          Hope used to spring eternal. And then shattered. As in Kevin White’s leg. A million tiny pieces.

          • Sahr Gborie

            SAVAGE

        • SC Dave

          Excellent post.

    • Captain Obvious

      There’s a difference, though. We were saying that about Emery when he was introduced, and after his first draft.

      This is Pace’s 3rd draft. We’ve seen the personnel moves that he’s made in FA, which have been — aside from the head-scratcher about Slauson — extraordinarily good. We’ve seen his draft picks, minus injuries, perform pretty well to date. So he’s earned some benefit of the doubt.

      Emery’s benefit of the doubt was gone by Week 3 of his first preseason.

  • Scharfinator

    Ahhh and hope springs eternal… 🙂

  • Irish Sweetness

    Has the season started yet?

    • CanadaBear

      Just around the corner!

    • Sactowns#1

      Are you anxious to be disappointed?

      • MB30SD

        hahaha

      • BearDown100393

        This will be a season for the ages.

    • BearDown100393

      It never ended.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Watching Alien.

    Sigourney looks so young.

    And it was the android that let the infected John Hurt et al back into the ship, against Ripley’s orders.

    Was he programmed to do that? Do we find out in Alien : Covenant?

    • MB30SD

      All I know is that Kenny Fucking Powers is in that movie… so I’m sure he’s going to kick the aliens asses

    • Bender McLugh

      yes, he was programmed, orders sent from earth.

  • Thompson Way

    This is my “fav” article by you, Nice…

    • MB30SD

      Is this really The Thompson Way? Is it?!

  • BearDown100393

    Terrible Ted: [to Andrew & Jeff, being held helpless by his own] Now, our operation is small, but there’s a lot of potential for “aggressive” blogging expansion. So, which one of you fine gentlemen would like to join our PR team? Oh, there’s only one spot open right now, so we’re gonna have…

    [breaks pool cue over knee]

    Terrible Ted: Tryouts.

    [throws broken pool cue at the bloggers]

    Terrible Ted: Make it fast.

  • willbest

    When did Pace’s id start writing for da blog?

    • BearDown100393

      Pacebot fingered the Internet

    • MB30SD

      you mean his fucking mom?!

      Jesus christ jeff andrew, try to maintain a modicum of fucking objectivity. My god man, get pace’s robotic cock out of your throat my maings. Yeesh.

      • Scharfinator

        Andrew wrote this one…

        • MB30SD

          sure, whatevs

          tomato tomahto

          and why the hell are you on HIS side… I thought we had each other’s backs. Damn Paul newman!

      • willbest

        As Stephen Cobert has pointed out the correct term of art is “cockholster” and since it aired on network TV, I am to assume it is now socially acceptable in common usage.

        • CanadaBear

          As long as he’s referring to Trump and Putin, I’m totally OK with it.

        • MB30SD

          that works. I fancy myself a renaissance man and a learned fellow… thus, I will use the proper English term: sycophant

      • willbest

        oh and you have a fair point. I bet Pace has more realistic opinion of himself than what Andy wrote.

        • MB30SD

          God, I hope so… for his sake.

  • WP34

    I think this kids name fits Chicago – T-R-U-B-I-S-K-Y

  • 505Bears

    Does Trubinky play both sides of the ball? This article almost fooled me. Way to almost Trump me…sly guy

  • CanadaBear

    If Trubisky pans out I would consider getting together with you knuckleheads in Chicago for a game. That’s a pretty big commitment for me because my sister no longer lives in Chicago.

    • beninnorcal

      You could count me in, Canada, I’d love to meet ya.

      • CanadaBear

        Back atcha Ben. There are a bunch of good guys on this blog and it would be fun to get together. I regret not getting together with those guys a few years ago when Doc, MB, Johnny, Murph, New Bear, MB had a posse got together for a draft party. That sounded like an epic weekend of laughs.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      hell I might make the trip up to meet you.

      • CanadaBear

        Thanks! That means something coming from you. I’m serious about that. It would be the first time I’ve been in that city that my sister didn’t live there since about ’74.

    • BearDown100393

      If? The kid’s speech is already typed and awaiting in Canton.

  • King of DBB
  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    The credibility of this post would be much better if it also addressed this simple fact:

    This draft was one of the most loaded defensive draft. And what did Ryan Pace do?
    He got 4 players on offense and ONE player with a broken leg on defense.

    In what way was this a smart thing to do? Not everything Ryan Pace does is positive. The decisions he has made have several downsides too. It is ok to acknowledge that.

    Meanwhile, bears continue to trot out the likes of Mitch Unrein and Cravon LeBlanc and other JAGS on defense. They could have seriously upgraded the defense and eliminated the talent drop off from starters to back ups.

    Once Pace selected Trubisky, he was forced to start collecting pieces to help Trubisky next year and sacrifice the defense in one of the best defensive draft.

    I bet next year Pace will look to shore up the defense and with Bears luck it will be one of the best offensive drafts ever.

  • evantonio

    Wow. I’ve been on waiting list for season tickets since 2006. My original # was somewhere in the 3000s. Some years I moved up a few hundred spots, some years I moved up less than 50.

    At the start of last season, I was #1378.

    Then we went 3-13.

    Then we signed Mike Glennon.

    Then I got an email today saying my spot was up and this is the year for me to get my tickets.

    Lots of people jumping ship. Here’s hoping they regret that.

    • MB30SD

      makes sense

    • King of DBB

      That’s what Haugh and Mully were saying on the radio today.

      The fans have to collectively rebel against the team, like they did with the Blackhawks. In the Jeremy Roenick era you could walk over to the spanking new United Center and buy tickets from scalpers for 10 bucks. The team was getting financially hosed.

      THAT made them re-assess what they were doing.

      The fan base has to rebel, and rebel HARD when this team comes out of the gate 0-5. It’s time to quit on this team until the ownership sells.

      It’s time to put fanboy sentiment aside and collectively reject the product.

      ONLY that will work.

      • MB30SD

        yep, with you. I’m paying attention to scores through the first quarter.

      • evantonio

        meh. they still won’t sell.

        NFL TV money shits all over NHL TV money.

    • Ososfan

      Take it, Evantonio! Wow, lucky you! Who cares who jumps, man! If I ever have the chance to be a season ticket holder I’d take it! Cool stuff, we should be getting better soon! Don’t lose hope!

      • MB30SD

        we’re going to be good at SOME fucking point right? ; )

        • Ososfan

          Jess! The only way I can analyze these Pace moves is that he thinks the team is more ahead of schedule than the fan base and media think.. soooo…. Jesss!

          • MB30SD

            then he’s blind dude.

      • evantonio

        yup – that’s the plan. get them now, slowly move closer to the field as more people jump ship, then party hard when we go 19-0 in 2019.

        • Ososfan

          Sooooo smart!

    • Sactowns#1

      Might as well jump at the opportunity. Is there any official tailgating allowed?

      • evantonio

        there used to be. i think there still is, but only in special designated parking lots.

        the bears are jerks.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    There is something frustrating about Trubisky pick. I’ll have a hard time giving a shit about Glennon games.
    —-
    Height of homerism. It is easy to dump on Glennon I get it.

    The kid Trubisky literally did not know how/why a hard count is used until a few weeks ago (something even casual Bears fan know well because they have seen Aaron Rodgers use it all these years).

    I have nothing against the kid and I hope he succeeds even though I did not want him to be the pick. But the best thing Pace and Fox can do for him is shelve him for 2017 and just be a student. He needs to sit on the bench and learn the basics for a year. Practice reps are fine but he should not be dressed. Dress only Glennon and Sanchez for this years 16 games.

    Because if he fails to recognize a blitz (and that is not hard to imagine given he didn’t even know what a hard count is), he will break an arm or a leg before his NFL career even gets going.

    • MB30SD

      and the bears QB saga will continue. Book it that’s exactly what will happen given our history. hahaha

      Btw, what’s a hard count?!

      • BearDown100393

        Trubisky’s first play call will be a hard count on MNF.

        • Ososfan

          Lmao!

      • Sactowns#1

        It’s what you do before you put it in the holster.

      • CanadaBear

        Honestly, of all the things a QB can learn a hard count has to be at the top of easiest to learn. I was shocked he didn’t know what it was but it’s about as low of a priority as it gets for a QB.

        • willbest

          Sounds about right. “Okay instead of hut, you gotta babble a bit throwing lots of huts in and the center only snaps the ball when you say “47 hut”. Make sure when you babble don’t say the number seven or eleven

        • BearDown100393

          Seems strange NC never attempts to draw offsides on the opposing defense.

          • CanadaBear

            Probably afraid to draw their O offsides.

          • BearDown100393

            Hence, “Set!”

          • Ososfan

            Probably because they were so used to Trubs getting them out of sitauations that they didn’t care for gimmicks?

    • willbest

      “The kid Trubisky literally did not know how/why a hard count”

      Unless this was from an interview with him, I call bullshit.

      • MB30SD

        google it. for all to see on chuckys QB camp vid

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wHpQmcZgP3I

        • MB30SD

          HOLY SHIT!!!

          I didn’t know Trubz was black?!?!?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          HOLY CRAP! It’s the end of the world, he did not know something as simple to learn as a Hard count. oh wait Gruden did us a favor and took 20 seconds to explain it to him. I think we are good.

          • BearDown100393

            I agree. Safe to assume that a hard count is the only thing Trubisky was not taught at NC.

          • willbest

            I am not even sure he didn’t know. He probably didn’t since his offense was simple, but those things are going to be designed to make Gruden look good. If you have ever had a 30 minute interview reduced to a 25 second sound bite or a two line quote you can know reality can be a bit different.

          • CanadaBear

            Never piss off the editor.

          • Ososfan

            For real, lol. If that’s all we have to worry about with Mitch then we should be winning SB soon!

        • Scharfinator

          Holy shit, I want to watch this, but Gruden is such a fucking mouth breather.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, painful

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        Watch this.. he had no clue… #2 Overall Pick!!! LOL!!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74Usyr5Qd0M

        • BearDown100393

          He had 1 snap count in NC. Set. That’s it. The look on Gruden’s face is priceless.

          • willbest

            Doesn’t that speak more to the coaching staff at NC than Trubisky though?

          • BearDown100393

            It is an indictment against college football in general.

          • MB30SD
          • Sahr Gborie

            thank you. how can he know if they dont teach him. it was not part of their game plan

          • King of DBB

            “you gotta say hut twice”

            “uh… yeah…ok”

          • BearDown100393

            Gruden makes him nervous.

          • MB30SD
          • Bender McLugh

            mmmm Jennifer Tilly

          • MB30SD

            eeew

          • Bender McLugh

            really? even now she ai’ight

          • CanadaBear

            Just as long as she was semi-quiet.

          • MB30SD

            nah, too old.

          • EnderWiggin

            J. Tilly from High Spirits – waccawacca

      • BearDown100393

        Gruden’s program. It is right there.

    • Ososfan

      I thought he was a little nervous and just wanted to agree with most of what Gruden said, probably didn’t even realize his mistake until after. I’m willing to give our future QB a pass

  • BearDown100393

    Trubisky and Mooch. He did much better here. Didn’t care for the helmet.

    “DINO”!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wPBtAZktCVU

  • CanadaBear

    Jesus H. Christ, now we’re fighting among ourselves over the fucking draft! Calm down fellas it ain’t worth it.

    • willbest

      We are?

      • CanadaBear

        Not everyone of course but a couple. Fuck I like almost all the guys on here. Why get so worked up to start threatening each other? I get being pissed. I don’t get being so pissed you want to fight. Save that for when you are actually physically threatened.

    • BearDown100393

      Trump’s fault.

      • CanadaBear

        Always!

        • willbest

          Nah Just 2017-2020, maybe 2024

        • AlbertInTucson

          Not Bush?

          • CanadaBear

            Nah. Statute of limitations on that one.

          • SC Dave

            So long as it’s never the Democrat, eh?

            I noted the lefties blamed Bush for six fucking years, and yet within a MONTH it’s all Trump’s fault.

            Such intellectual bankruptcy.

          • CanadaBear

            Of course.

          • CanadaBear

            Dave you and I are not politically aligned. You believe what you want to believe and I’ll do the same. Even joking around here you get your panties in a wad. Too bad.

  • Ososfan

    Yo! Got here late to the party, whoever is fighting with each, that’s upsetting. Y’all should be here to start no trouble, y’all should just be here to do the super bowl shuffle! Plus, I like an aggressive GM with convictions to get his guy no matter what, I might be confused with the moves but our previous GM NEVER drafted FIVE all-rookie player in two drafts. Let’s be patient…… For now?!?!

    • CanadaBear

      Good one! Yeah, it’s never worth it to get into a pissing match. Oh well. No doubt it doesn’t help that the Bears suck moose wang and have for a long time. 1 playoff appearance in the last 10 years. None in the last 6. Ugh. If Pace’s draft last year was meh, I would be more upset than I am. Pace had a really good draft last year and deserves the benefit of the doubt. Buying into the post draft hysteria where the media are like grizzly bears when the salmon run is on. They are feeding like crazy and it’s all opinions. I always read you have to give a draft 3 years to properly judge it. We gave this draft about 3 minutes.

      • Ososfan

        With you 100% Canada! I might not agree with all of the Pace moves but he done a hack of a lot to get better players here when we legit, had nothing but older players and crazy money owed to them!

        • CanadaBear

          He really walked into a bad situation for sure. I’ll give George McCaskey credit for being realistic about how bad it was when he shit canned Nessman and Emery. The cupboard was bare to say the least. I’m still not sure Pace is all that but this draft really has his ass hanging out there. I like that he’s swinging for the fences but if he misses on all of them … Pretty sure Fox will be gone after this year. Otherwise, they will almost have to extend him. It’s not very often a team lets the HC get to his walk year. Pace will live and die with Trubisky. Unless the kid is an utter failure Pace will be here for at least the next 4-5 years.

          • SC Dave

            I don’t think he misses on all. Actually, the one I’m most worried about is the guy with a rod in his leg.

            He certainly has the best cred, outside of, well, a rod in his leg.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah, before I found out he had a rod in his leg I thought it was a good pick. Clean breaks heal up fine all the time. After finding out, fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. Hope we’re wrong but I’m guessing he will have lost some speed and hops.

      • SC Dave

        One championship in 50+ years focusing on defense.

        Let’s give a GM focusing on the other side of the ball a damn chance, eh?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “The thought that the 49ers tricked the Bears or whatever it was that people were saying has been mostly debunked.”

    Is there evidence to that effect?

    • Ososfan

      Adam Schefter came on Mike &Mike and said he sources had other teams trying to move up to #2. Actually, the bears fleeced and bamboozled the Browns…

      • AlbertInTucson

        So, you have one ESPN “Insider” (Chris Mortensen) saying “Fox knew nothing about it”

        ANOTHER, Kevin Seifert, regurgitated that.

        Except then, Mortensen recanted it but by then, other talking heads from Jim Rome to Tiki Barber were doing “Sports Minute” updates with that “tip”.

        Next, Jason La Canfora excoriates the Bears for making a trade for a pick nobody else wanted.

        Now, a 4th “Insider”, Adam Schefter says, “Oh yeah, other teams DID covet that #2.

        Nice work, ESPN “Insiders”.

        • Bender McLugh

          Boom

        • CanadaBear

          They will tell it 15 different ways but they won’t lie!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          sounds about right. So as fans let’s base all our responses to the draft on whichever storyline fits our needs.

        • Ososfan

          One person says one tweet and it catches on like wildfire. Fox was with Pace in NC holding secretive workouts and dinner with Trubs and coaches, Fox knew about all the moves at all times. That coming from Pace AND Fox. These media guys are mostly haters trying to jump in on the bandwagon because they are as confuses as the rest of us with Ryan’s vision of the team, BUT like I’ve said, they ahvent brought in talent and evaluated and spent countless hours trying to bring the best players possible to help us win. That’s not an endorsement on Pace and staff either BUT he has brought in talent that has been recognized nationally, albeit, begrudgingly by many pundits and supposedly, if it weren’t for the 19 IR players who played very important positions for the team, the team would have had a winning record. Mind you, we have some of the best defensive coaches in the league who are trying to teach mostly young athletes how to play like champions, it takes time. So, yea, I’m cool with being patient because with all the losing we’ve been doing I’be yet to have the same feeling of total loss and destrcuction I felt when Trestman and Emery were here……

          • SC Dave

            No, it’s not about being confused. It’s being too stupid to know any other way to generate clicks.

          • SC Dave

            Ok, maybe stupid was harsh. Let me go with ‘unimaginative’

          • AlbertInTucson

            How about “desperate”?

          • SC Dave

            that too

        • BearDown100393

          That’s what happens when you fire the actual journalists.

          • SC Dave

            did ESPN have any to fire?

          • BearDown100393

            The no names.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      evidence? no one wants to hear about evidence either way around here.

      • Sactowns#1

        Evidence? We don’t need no stinkin evidence.

    • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

      One can criticize Pace for a lot of things but this “Pace got fleeced’ argument is just silly and the national media has gone nuts.

      Was there a concrete offer to SF for #2 other than Bears? It does not matter.

      What matters is Pace was getting calls for #3. He knew if he is telling them ‘No’ they are going to #2. That is why he jumped to #2.

      You can criticize his draft but not over moving to #2.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Media Feeding Frenzy.”

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Bears Fans Should Love Pace’s Aggressiveness”

    If it hits, it is “Aggressiveness.”

    If it misses, it is “Recklessness.”

    I know I’M not sure I know which it is, yet.

    • SC Dave

      Not sure I agree, but well stated.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s already proved out in a way.

        Jeff, for one, endorses the move. Pronounces Pace “Aggressive”.

        The Sports Talking Heads have, mostly, condemned it and think he doesn’t know what the hell he’s doing,

        Ergo, “Reckless”.

        • SC Dave

          yeah…i missed the point

  • Bender McLugh

    Sage Rosenfels haaaated this draft. Just sayin.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Sage” advice.

    • Ososfan

      Who?

      • Bender McLugh

        only one of the greatest QB’s in NFL history that knows a TON about alot of stuff, I mean ALOT

        • Ososfan

          Hilarious. Haha.

          • Bender McLugh

            he shat all over the pick, alot of it about Glennon being butt-hurt-disrespected….didn’t know Sage had that many words in him.

      • Bender McLugh
    • SC Dave

      Anyone that calls himself Sage should be dismissed out of hand.

      I mean, seriously.

      • MB30SD

        Don’t think he called himself anything… Prolly his parents, right?

        • Johnnywad

          Yeah but he’s still pulling that shit even now.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Bill Polian: “Sit Trub’s ass on the bench for at least a year. Hard developmental road ahead.”

    http://m.espn.com/general/play?id=19296764&wjb

    • Ososfan

      Polian also praised Pace for the move though, right?

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        yes

  • willbest

    I read his name as WTF Pace. I thought he was going for irony.

  • King of DBB

    https://sports.yahoo.com/news/bears-trubisky-debacle-worst-nfl-draft-flub-ever-194335519.html

    Always a rhetorical question worth avoiding. Being the “worst ever”

    The analysts show the pick was probably NOT the worst ever, but may yet vie for contention.

    • CanadaBear

      It is Yahoo after all.

    • Ososfan

      Sorry, Yahoo, probably has the WORST reporting. So, I don’t think I’ll click on that. Like I said, fuckthese haters. Let’s wait till after Trubs 3rd year actually playing to see what’s up?

      • King of DBB

        That’s all Ryan Pace ever wanted

      • BearDown100393

        Reporting or Opining?

    • BuddhaJoe

      Linking to fucking Yahoo Sports? That’s worse than Rosendoom, you should get a red blog flag for that.

      • King of DBB

        All those ex-ESPN staffers need jobs somewhere

        • BuddhaJoe

          They could go to McDonald’s, not sure they’re competent enough though

    • AlbertInTucson

      Like you can tell before the Kid has ever taken a snap…?

    • leftcoast dave

      You mean the anal ysts? They be who? “Experts” without a real job doing what they wished they could?

    • SC Dave

      what a fucking tool

    • BearDown100393

      Ryan Leaf

  • Malice Halice

    Even tho our schedule is set up for us to go 2-14 I DO believe our schedule is also set up for Glennon to flourish. We’re not going up against any L.O.B or broncos secondary (maybe Ravens or steelers). I feel like we’re just gonna be at the losing end of ALOT of shootouts! Which I rather have than get dominated.

    • BearDown100393

      Gunslinging giraffe

    • willbest

      Packers have a decent secondary when it isn’t all on IR

      • Malice Halice

        Yea kinda, they Secondary only good cuz the front 7is good. Not great just good. But mostly due to them resting for 8min when Vadger got da ball

        • willbest

          Does he do a lot of 8-minute drives? Its usually a couple runs for nothing followed by some 30 yard strike down the field.

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        I hope the new big white TE’s job every game is to put one opposing DB on IR. Can you imagine the momentum he can generate.. 4.79 speed times 278 lbs. He can easily obliterate your average 200 pound DB.

        • MB30SD

          His one negative…. Blocking.

          So he’s big (and slow), but can’t block

          #strateegery

          • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

            I am bullish on White Devil. Have heard he was #3 TE ( ahead of Njoku) on several teams big board with 2nd round grade and Cowboys were hoping like mad that he made it to #60. They wanted to draft him as Jason Witten’s replacement.

          • leftcoast dave

            I love it. A tenth of a second slower than Gronk in the 40 makes him “slow”.

            Seriously?

            Can you run a 4.79?

            More to the point, can you run a 4.79 weighing 280 lbs?

            who else does?

          • MB30SD

            I hate to say this dave, I liked you, but you’re kind of a tool dude. You obviously didn’t play football and don’t know the difference.

            sorry I’m not sorry.

          • leftcoast dave

            Wrong, but lets stay on that. Don’t know what difference? The difference between a tenth of a second over forty yards? Seriously?

      • BerwynBomber

        Nah, they have solid safeties. But their CBs blow, even when healthy (not counting the much concussed ex-Cheese Shields). They fucked up by letting Heyward go after developing him. Wonder if they will feel that way about Hyde.

        • MB30SD

          I know chargers fans were happy to get him. Dude was a stud for them last year

    • BuddhaJoe

      Seriously, moving up with some mid-rounders beats out the Purple Drank, Goff, Aaron Curry, etc.? Those people are fucking idiots and I’d be ashamed to link to them.

      • Malice Halice

        Purple drank? We don’t play Goff dis year

        • SC Dave

          that’s jamarcus, right?

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    DaBearsBlog‏ @dabearsblog 43m43 minutes ago
    I still think Trubisky is going to play. I could be nuts but I think he’s winning this job.

    haha.
    Trub ain’t no Russell Wilson. Check out how polished Russell Wilson was as a prospect rattling off WCO plays without skipping a beat. Heck, Trub ain’t even Carson Wentz.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ON16iCklqLY

    • willbest

      Sells me, why didn’t we draft him again?

      • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

        We had Cutler as the undisputed great quarterback back then who needed no competition otherwise he would pout even more.

    • BearDown100393

      If Trubisky beats out Glennon, Pace should be fired.

      • SC Dave

        that’s silly

    • MB30SD

      Never watched this. Impressive. Obvious leader and badass.

  • Ososfan

    No, legit, third year, MAYBE earlier. See how he progresses every year dude.

    • MB30SD

      he might end up the second coming of jimmy G buddy, but we’re not finding out for at least another year unless glennon tanks or gets injured. tough to stomach another thrown year.

      So if we go 3-13 again next year, just if…. at least we’ll have another shot at a top QB again. smh.

      • CanadaBear

        9 of 10 years missing the playoffs. Bears desperately need a QB. Have JAG in place. Have the 3rd pick in the draft. Not sure why some of you guys didn’t see a QB coming.

  • SC Dave

    I’m warming more and more to the idea we just drafted Brees, Graham, and Sproles.

    Fuck all the press retards.

    • MB30SD

      Hee hee

      It’s called emotional self preservation. Do what you gotta do baby

      • SC Dave

        Exactamundo.

  • Johnnywad

    I was suffering from Cutler fatigue. I assumed when he was released, it would go away. We’d talk about something new. Wrong. Just changed his name.

    • SC Dave

      No shit.

      • Johnnywad

        Makes my ass weary. And all for nothing. He’s ours like it or not. All we can do is hope he’s good and wait.

        Seems like most are trying to stake out their terrritory as Trubisky haters so they can be first to scream they called it if he blows. Why, is beyond me.

        • SC Dave

          Agree again most wholeheartedly, Johnny. Same thing with Shaheen.

    • BerwynBomber

      Short of the elites (and I’m guessing even Rodgers receives it from hardcore Favre loyalists), all QBs have sizable segments of detractors among their fans. No reason to rehash all the reasons Cutler did, but with Trubisky probably boils down to overdrafted QB (“experts” had him as a mid-20 pick), one season as a college starter, a seven win team, other draft needs not met, a possible fleecing of Pace, and of course unproven rookie.

      Watson may have had less, but still, same deal, end of the day.

      Most important position in all of team sports. And the most analyzed and polarizing.

      • willbest

        Experts were wrong, he wasn’t making it past 6 if we didn’t make the move we made.

      • Johnnywad

        I agree. The response is pretty disproportionate though.

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Serious questions. What is special about Trubisky? What are the things that jump out, that he does really, really well? I am trying to convince myself he is the one to lead Bears out of their qb desert based on concrete facts rather than blind hope.

    • Johnnywad

      From PFF as I didn’t watch any of his games last year.

      Compact, accurate, quick arm with a three-quarters release. Quick release allows him to get rid of the ball even when under heavy pressure.
      Polished passer with consistent footwork and mechanics.
      Athletic within and outside the pocket. Very accurate throwing on the move.
      Anticipates well on timing routes as well as windows in zone coverage.
      Quick-minded and reacts quickly from the time he sees it to time of release.
      Discipline with his reads and shows ability to scan the field in full field progressions.
      Natural feel and instincts in the pocket.
      Consistently accurate ball placement in the short passing game maximizing catch and run opportunities.
      Has the arm to drive the ball outside the numbers. Consistently hits the “cover-2” hole in between the cornerback and the safety, much more often than most college quarterbacks.
      Values the ball and is a good decision maker.

      • wvankley

        He definitely has a knack for feeling pressure. NC was not very good up front. He’s athletic, throws well on the move and moves well inside the tackles. I don’t think there’s a question that he was the best prospect this year. Another thing that isn’t mentioned much is that he’s a great kid and a worker. Still a kid.

        • Johnnywad

          Good to know. Look forward to seeing what he’s got

      • SC Dave

        This is what we’ve been missing forever

        “Quick-minded and reacts quickly from the time he sees it to time of release.”

        Wouldn’t it be amazing if he sees the field like Marino?

        • Ososfan

          I legit almost cried the time Hoyer missed a wide open Alshon vs the Colts, jaguars, etc…

  • Doc Nitty

    Nice piece of writing Andrew (as if I know)

    While I no longer live and breathe The NFL and The Beloved, I do still really care (about the beloved) I don’t want to care but I can’t help but goddamn care. I’m like the brother of a drug addict…I don’t have a lot of hope anymore, that things will change, and so I live my life as if my Bro will always make the wrong decision, he will always disappoint me. So I learn to keep him in my periphery. I dont track his day to day life, I just kind of generally want to know he’s alive.

    But still, I’ll always have that little piece of hope, like a big outstanding overdue debt that you can’t pay, always at least partially on your conscience, that someday he will be well again.

    The bears are my drug addicted brother. Logic, history, instinct, they all tell me to move on. Nothing will change here, they tell me. But goddamn it, he’s my brother, man! Poor dumb self defeating bastard, he’s my blood! My KIN!!!! I want him to get better! I want him to flourish! I want him to hoist the everlovin Lombardi trophy six years in a fucking row! I’m just not going to lose any more sleep in the meantime or because of it

    As we all know, the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem. The Bears had a QB problem. They started dealing with that by cutting bait with Smokin’ Jay, like a drug addict saying adios to his druggy friends. Okay, whew! They’re gone, now we’re NOT on the WRONG path. Now we have to figure out the RIGHT path. The right path has always been to get a great QB. So, like Andrew described so perfectly, they got the guy they coveted. They went after him and did what they had to do to get him. I like that. Go get ’em Tiger!

    So we’ll wait and see…did the chronic loser dipshit brother just fleece himself again? Or did he finally do something right? I’m personally just happy that he’s makin moves, being aggressive in trying to right the ship.

    No matter the outcome, I’ll continue to observe distantly. I’ll do so with a paradoxical cocktail of passive-curiosity, guarded half-hearted hope and PTSD induced nihilistic indifference.

    So yeah….how are all you son bitches?!

    • MB30SD

      You fabulous bastard

      • Doc Nitty

        Damn skippy I’m wid it.

    • leftcoast dave

      It was a dark and stormy night . . .

    • CanadaBear

      What’s shakin’ Doc? Hope your brother cleans up this season!!!!!!!!!

      • Doc Nitty

        Sup brah. How y’all been man?

        • CanadaBear

          Got my second knee replacement surgery about 8 weeks ago. Getting around pretty good. Still sore but not a big deal. Hopefully in a few weeks I’ll be hiking and biking with the best of them. Right now it’s short walks and riding the trainer. The weather has been so shitty I haven’t missed riding outdoors. If you have the urge to merge this summer our Blues fest has a killer lineup. If you like female vocalists Sunday is all women. Very cool concept. http://www.nanaimobluesfestival.com/

    • SC Dave

      Hell of a tale, Doc. Loved it, except don’t you think six is a little low?

      Good to hear from you, compadre.

    • Bender McLugh

      Go get ’em Tiger, indeed. Well said, Doc!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yo Doc … are congratulations in order?

    • Scharfinator

      “No matter the outcome, I’ll continue to observe distantly. I’ll do so with a paradoxical cocktail of passive-curiosity, guarded half-hearted hope and PTSD induced nihilistic indifference.”

      I’m in the same boat…. this is a perfect quote.

      • Ososfan

        Doc reads like a great American nove. Lol

    • Irish Sweetness

      Some smokin tunes for ya before you go back to hibernation.

      Fat Freddy’s drop? Nice.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y7QQS5V3cnI&t=20s

    • Ososfan

      Doc! Need to play more chess, I’ll one day be a able to beat you without having to take years to make a move. lol

  • wvankley

    He clearly has the best mechanics of the top four and he also reads better than any of them, I’d like to see a bit more downward force on his throws to spin it more. He’ll have to take his lumps at some point, but he has the body for it.

  • Irish Sweetness

    “Bears Fans Should Love Pace’s Aggressiveness.”

    Sure would like to have seen it in the second round. McDowell went the spot before us.

    • Ososfan

      Malik? Second round beast that dude needs some coaching and Seattle is a GREAT spot for him, better than even Chicago. Happy for that stud

  • Irish Sweetness

    Suppose Glennon gets traded next season.

    Would you take Cutty as the back-up on a friendly deal?

    (ducks)

    • Bender McLugh

      lol

    • Scharfinator

      When did you start trolling, Irish? 😛

    • BearDown100393

      Jay never asks a second favor when he is refused a first, understood?

    • Ososfan

      Irish, you sure you’re not part Latino, cuz you’re definitely going to start some drama. lol No, Cutty is done with Chicago.

    • CanadaBear

      The big question is will Cutler take a team friendly deal to come back? That will never happen.

    • Sahr Gborie

      no thanks irish. new culture. cutty is a man. we all have egos.

  • Sahr Gborie

    do you rust loggins to develop mitch into a quality nfl qb? is loggins even going to be around next year? if not who do you want as the next oc to develop mitch into a qb who can lead us to a qb?

    • CanadaBear

      Nathan Lane/Ragone did a nice job with Hoyer and Barkley last year. No reason to think they won’t bring MT along. Good chance Fox gets shit canned at the end of the year. Hard to tell where it goes from there.

      • willbest

        Fox plays less games than Glennon.

        • Scharfinator

          Certainly true. Could you imagine him in spandex? Would be rough.

      • Sahr Gborie

        mitch is done if we start changing oc like we did with cutty. cutty never got going. when cutty finally got going under martz he broke his thumb.

        • CanadaBear

          Pretty sure Pace is smarter than Glitchy and Emery.

          • Sahr Gborie

            what qb has loggins developed? why was no hands still in the line up after massive drops? why was j.howard not utilized until the 4th game of the season? do you really want to put your franchise qb in the hands of loggins to develop? if gase is a 10 as an oc what is loggins?

          • Ososfan

            Might have been Fox’s call. You know he loves veterans over rooks…..

          • CanadaBear

            He did a good job last year with our backups. I’m going with that.

          • Johnnywad

            Here we go again “developing” QBs. You guys simultaneously believe there are about 8 quality QBs in the whole world, while still wondering why we can’t get one of these mythical coaches that are good at “developing QBs”. It’s stupid.

            Talent meets system meets roster meets stability meets luck. That’s it. Period.

            Or, to flip the equation, who, specifically, would you like to hire that has a long track record of “developing” QBs that meet your standard of QB play? Remember, there are only about 8 of them in the world. So which coach has a hand in more than one of those guys reaching elite status.

          • Sahr Gborie

            development for me also includes system. what about the system that loggins had last year or with the titans makes you think he will bring out the best in mitch? it took him 4 games to realized what he had in j.howard and even then he was more inclined to throw than run with the best rb in all of football last year. (on a side not j.howard would have beat zeke if loggins had his head on straight)

          • CanadaBear

            On a side note, what does slow to recognize Howard’s running ability have to do with developing QB’s?

          • Johnnywad

            Or maybe the kid needed a few NFL games to figure shit out.

            Another stupid argument I keep reading here. Loggains helps Howard put together the second best rushing season in the league last year, with a late round rookie, with Matt Fucking Barkley and Brian Fucking Hoyer, at QB and completely incapable of throwing a football, and it’s somehow held against him.

            And he did it all with a makeshift, battered OL with a center that got the nod AS A ROOKIE, the week before the season started.

            But yeah, Loggains is an idiot.

          • Sahr Gborie

            never said he was an idiot. looking at the talent howard has he should have been used more as the season went on. instead we are throwing to people who cant catch. like pace said “I don’t want to be average around here, I want to be great.”

          • SC Dave

            why would an oc with any sense overwork his best asset as games became increasingly meaningless “as the season wore on”?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Egotistical wasn’t it? What happened to ‘we’?

          • Sahr Gborie

            we want to be great. i want to be great. if pace is great at his job then the organization is great as well.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Exactly. Nobody ‘developed’ Jimmy Mac in Chicago. They tried the opposite. If you’re good you’re good. If he needs that much training up then they picked the wrong QB, which they (he) probably did.

          • Sahr Gborie

            its not about coach him up or training him. there are intricacies to the game that can be taught to you. you really think the hood in new england has not imparted wisdom on the goat qb?

            my point is do you trust loggins and his system (or fox) to bring the best out of mitch? gase brought the best out of cutty and one more year and we might have seen the real cutty that we were teased with every now and then.

            should have made him assistant head coach. damn you pace. damn you

          • CanadaBear

            Do you think he would not have left if he was assistant HC? Really? When it’s time for them to sit in the big chair, they’re leaving.

          • Sahr Gborie

            a wink and a nod in the back saying your are the next hc once this old dirtbag builds us up

          • BearDown100393

            Jim knew a hard count

          • BearDown100393

            We shall find out.

        • Ososfan

          Seriously, man that’s the thing I’m scared about, well, unless we somehow get Harbaugh to come back home…..

          • Sahr Gborie

            even if he does, who are the oc/qb coach that will spend the most time with mitch?

          • Ososfan

            No idea, but Harbaugh has that magic with seemingly anyone. lol

          • BearDown100393

            Not magic. Harbaugh is an immediate environment changer with his attitude. He is all go all the time.

    • Ososfan

      He did help every QB with Tennessee be at least serviceable, so, I’m not too sure lol.

      • Sahr Gborie

        seriously oso, you want your 1st round qb to be serviceable?

        • willbest

          None of them started with Trub’s raw talent

        • Ososfan

          Hell no, I’m just saying, from the scrappy talent at QB he had to work with, he helped them be serviceable because they were hot garbage. Let’s see what he does with some raw but good talent..?

    • BearDown100393

      How the hell is Bird Cage supposed to find the time to babysit Mitch when he is already crash coursing “giraffes for dummies”?

  • Jokey

    Anyone got a link to the Biggs article about NC sitting Trubisky?

  • Sahr Gborie
    • Scharfinator

      Yeah, definitely made me laugh.

    • bigrobstunner

      geeze he’s a tall drink of water….

  • King of DBB

    “Jay, what did you think of that out route to Sammy Watkins?”
    “Sucked.”
    “What did you not like about it, sir?”
    “Could done it better. Much better.”
    “Do you think the Bills can score here before the half?”
    “Maybe. Maybe not. Maybe who the fuck cares? Christ, Buffalo sucks. Is the weather always this bad?”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/05/04/report-jay-cutler-auditioning-for-a-television-job/

    • CanadaBear

      That could be fascinating. Or it could be beyond boring. I’m guessing Jay would have no trouble criticizing other players but that monotone would have to be punched up.

      • BerwynBomber

        I like the idea of it. He’s smart enough and Jay has a sneaky sense of humor. But yeah, he’ll have to up the voice energy a bit. Doesn’t need to go all Gruden on us, but will need a little more oomph than his pressers suggest.

        • BearDown100393

          No. Just deadpan it like Stephen wright

  • BerwynBomber
    • Malice Halice

      But why him? He’s not a winner. How can judge or comment about anything in his life when he’s the laughin stock of qb’s, just like David Carr idk how tf he got a job. Might as well hire Matt Leinert or Tebow

      • BerwynBomber

        So you think a good announcer has to be a successful star? Don’t know if that matters much honestly.

        And Cutler is far from a laughingstock.

        • Malice Halice

          That. Or either a fuckin personality tho. Cutty ain’t either

          • willbest

            Cutty did alright on the radio, doesn’t really seem like he has a TV personality though. The issue with all these athletes though is they lose interest in the sport once they are no longer playing it

  • Sahr Gborie

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/category/rumor-mill/
    Charlie Weis wonders why teams went with rookie quarterback over veterans

    Weis gave his assessment of the factor that most determines success
    as a pro quarterback: The ability to lead. It’s a cousin to the “he’s a
    winner” cliché, but there’s merit to the notion that a guy who can
    inspire teammates to do the right things during games, on the practice
    field, in the weight room, in the film room, at home, in the offseason,
    and pretty much every day of their lives can be successful in part
    because his influence helps the rest of the team succeed.

    It’s not the kind of thing that shows up in the stats sheets or
    through analytics or any other form of advance football study. But it’s a
    real dynamic of human nature; we’ve all been influenced by a compelling
    personality that we seek to please in some way, or that we don’t want
    to disappoint. A quarterback who can draw that quality out of as many
    players as possible in as many ways as possible elevates himself by
    ensuring that those around him are elevated.

    True franchise quarterbacks have that. Some of the guys picked this
    year will, and some won’t. The Texans and Chiefs won’t know if they
    guessed wrong on that front until it’s far too late to do anything about
    it.

  • BearDown100393

    Jay will do commentary for every FOX Bears game

    • Scharfinator

      Really? INTERESTING

      • BearDown100393

        Sure why not?

  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Bears state media video: Trub comes to Halas Hall

    Pace welcomes him to his office. Brief cameo by Foxy. Check out QB coach Dave Ragone at 2:02 mark. He doesn’t seem too comfortable with camera rolling behind..says ” We will get all your stuff for ya….because you have to get going..I am so pumped for you, bruh”


    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CV4LP6kwR-c

  • Sahr Gborie
  • Elect A Clown. Expect A Circus

    Not sure why some people, who otherwise have great faith in Ryan Pace and believe everything he says, are not willing to believe his words in plain english.


    Zach Zaidman ✔ @ZachZaidman
    #Bears GM Ryan Pace says there is no quarterback competition in 2017
    11:12 PM – 27 Apr 2017

    A qb with 13 college starts and no experience in NFL verbiage is not going to beat out Mike Glennon.

    Also, they already paid Glennon $15 million this year. They are not going to pay him $15 million to sit on bench. They will pay Trub to sit and learn on the bench but not Glennon.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Randy Gregory.

    More waste.

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