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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Rare Friday Edition!

| December 29th, 2017

No podcast this week, as travel got in the way. We’ll have the 2017 season wrap-up pod in the next week or so if I can get Jahns to answer his cell.


Ted Phillips the Boogeyman!

Ever since Ian Rapoport reported Ted Phillips was “making phone calls” to gauge availability of head coaching candidates, Bears Twitter – including our own Andrew Dannehy – have been obsessed with Phillips’ role in the coaching search. Now Rap’s former bench mate, Albert Breer, had this dandy in his “Black Monday” column:

Chicago Bears: The writing has been on the wall here for a while. The expectation is that John Fox will be gone. What’s less certain is whether or not general manager Ryan Pace gets to pick the next coach, and whether or not the coaches pursued by the Bears dictate Pace’s fate.

(1) Ryan Pace is 100% picking the next head coach.

(2) The NFL sends each organization a list of prospective head coaches. Those coaches don’t always know they’re on that list. What teams do is call agents and ask if their clients are interested in becoming head coaches so that once the decision to fire the head coach is officially made, interviews can be lined up immediately. This is called due diligence. Teams also call agents of college coaches to gauge if they’re interested in coming to the NFL.

(3) Ownership, which Ted represents, can do this reconnaissance work while another coach is under contract. For a GM it is strictly verboten. The GM is a partner with the head coach, especially in an organizational structure where they both report to ownership.

(4) If this story was “George McCaskey is making calls” nobody would have cared. But McCaskey doesn’t make calls. That’s why he pays Ted Phillips and why Phillips is incredibly well-respected in the league.

(5) Do I think the Bears would want to know if Ron Rivera may become available? Of course. They want to know every good coach that is going to be available. But the apple of their eye is Stanford coach David Shaw.


Jahns on Shaheen

From AJ After Dark’s column in the Sun-Times:

But the Bears do feel good about Shaheen’s development. Loggains said he’s had a solid rookie season. Most of Shaheen’s 12 catches were either contested or diving grabs (two for touchdowns).

In time, the team believes that Shaheen will do more. The Bears still only have six packages for him.  All of his catches also have come when he is a prototypical in-line tight end.

“We know that he’s going to be a good, all-around tight end because of his size, speed, his athleticism,” Loggains said. “In the offseason, the biggest jump he is going to have to take is in the run game. But he came in and affected the game in his opportunities in the red area the way we thought he would.”

In my mind, the Bears completely botched Shaheen’s rookie season. Six packages for him? Six packages total because he’s not a great run blocker? On a team with the worst pass-catching options in the entire league, shouldn’t it have become a priority to work Shaheen into the passing attack as more than an “in-line tight end” the second Cam Meredith’s knee blew up? But of course not. Gotta keep throwing those passes to Josh Bellamy.


Fuller Contract

From The Two Adams & their “Podcast in Print”:

Adam Hoge: The evaluation of Fuller is complicated, especially when you look at his 2017 season and his four-year body of work. There’s no doubt he has put together a good season this year and, frankly, saved his NFL career. But there have also been a few tough games sprinkled in there — two against the Packers and one against the Lions, all NFC North opponents. Should the Bears bring him back? Probably, but at what price?

Jahns: The price likely starts with the franchise tag in negotiations, and that’s a hefty price. CBS Sports’ current projections have the franchise tag for cornerbacks in 2018 at over $15 million. That’s a lot of money for Fuller. But cornerbacks always get paid on the open market. Last year is a perfect example. The Patriots signed Stephon Gilmore to a five-year, $65 million contract that guaranteed him $31 million when he signed. A.J. Bouye got a five-year, $67.5 million deal, including $26 million guaranteed at his signing, from the Jaguars.

The offer I’d make: 4 years, $48 million with the first two years guaranteed. If he asks for something wildly different than that, he’s playing 2018 on the tag.


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David Haugh Drinks Blue Moon

And I saw it live at the Billy Goat. Story to come this off-season.

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  • KentuckyBearsFan

    I think this team will go 9-7 next year. Decent chance to make the playoffs in 2019 unless all hell breaks loose with injuries or armageddon.

    (i’m assuming this team will have wide receivers in two years time.)

    • Bear Instincts

      This will be a 10 win team next season. They have a core of players ready to make a difference. Some new WR’s in FA and the draft along with some EDGE rushers and LB’s and this team will be a contender. If MT10 continues to improve at his current rate and avoids the sophomore slump we while Rodgers continues to rack up injuries we could go far. The Lions will always be the Lions and we will have a defense that can hold its own against the Vikings.

      • leftcoastdave

        The biggest question shaping up for the draft (and this is conventional wisdom, not how Pace necessarily drafts) is whether to take OT or Edge with your first pick. There will be impact players at both positions well down into the first round and da Bears are positioned to get one of the best in the top ten.
        Edge may have more immediate impact, but OT is needed as a long term building block. Right now I am leaning to OT and hoping Pace can identify two such players he can get with his One and Three picks.

        • Bender McLugh

          agreed, if the best player available is an OT they nab him.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Likely we’ll have the pick of the crop at OT.

        • Bear Instincts

          I cant disagree with you. OT is a long term building block for a better Oline and the success of MT10. Going with OT to me means you are counting on MT10 and the offense to win you games while going with EDGE means you are counting on the defense to win as MT10 continues to get better.

          • If we get the top OT, he could also instantly fill in at OG while he learns.
            This means Long or Sitton is likely gone. The former, always inj. and expensive. The latter, older and expensive.

            Ideally, Massie could be swing OT, but I doubt he goes for that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think the Guard is rated higher than all the OTs,no?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Two first picks probably need to be edge and OT. I guess the best combination of both. We may be in position for Chubb or Arden Key could be there for us, but if not ..? Nelson, the Guard from ND? I’d rather a tackle. Trade down?

    • If Fisher can pull that off, that’d be great!

  • catfish44
    • Bear Instincts

      hub is an ass….because some other old guy made it work that means Fangio will make it work too?!? If Fangio is HC that means the OC will change every few years if the Bears are successful due to HC opportunities. Do you really want MT10 becoming Cutler 2.0?

      This team is being built around and for MT10. An offensive HC is the best way to go to get the max our of MT10 and the rest of the offense. Pair up the HC with a former Defensive HC/Coordinator: Rex Ryan, Chuck Pagano, Jim Schwartz, Fangio….the list goes on and on

      • catfish44

        ”.because some other old guy made it work that means Fangio will make it work too?!?” that’s not what hub said. arush, brad biggs, and greg gabriel are the best at covering the bears. i doubt you even read what arkush said in the piece.

        • DaBearsBlog

          Greg Gabriel is a fucking idiot.

          • catfish44

            lol sure.

          • DaBearsBlog

            You do realize that he’s a pariah inside Halas Hall. They couldn’t wait to rid themselves of him.

          • catfish44

            difference of opinion here.

          • catfish44

            he worked as a radio commentator on the Chicago Bears Radio Network from 1987–2004. but ”He’s never even at Halas Hall”. He’s never even at Halas Hall”. ??

          • AlbertInTucson

            He may have been there back THEN, but his parting with the Bears was acrimonious and he is probably person non grata since.

          • CanadaBear

            I wasn’t a fan of his on the radio broadcasts. I thought two guys were plenty and he was definitely the third wheel.

          • catfish44

            you dumb bloggers just don’t understand. I believe everything I read when it comes to “real” reporters. they don’t ever make stuff up, they are always right. stupid bloggers don’t know what they are talking about. they can’t even get a press pass so how would they know what is going on inside Halas Hall.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ahhhhhh. An idiot troll. Dave Haugh? Hub? Some asshole like that? Wow.

            A press pass. That gave it away. A fucking press pass. Cos that’s what you need to see what’s going on on a football team, right?

          • Irish Sweetness

            And so is Arkush, the loon that had announced “on inside info” that Bill Cowher was the next HC of the Bears. A professional click-baiter. You want the best coverage of the Bears? It’s on here son. You’re reading it.

          • catfish44

            nope

          • CanadaBear

            Getting into drunken twitter spats isn’t exactly a real plus on his resume.

          • Wasn’t he a former Angelo scout?

        • Irish Sweetness

          He said NOTHING.

          Question for you – don’t go googling or looking for an answer elsewhere:

          Why do YOU think Vic Fangio is the bees knees? Specifically, what has he done here?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Fangio’s D is 8th in total yards this year, and tied for 7th in sacks on the year.

      • catfish44

        if the bears were smart they would higher fisher, just look at the foundation he left the rams.

    • Supposedly Fangio didn’t even want to be interim.

      • catfish44

        i read that also, but i understand that if he was interviewed and offered the job the whole story might change. i prefer toub, but fangio makes some sense. they’re both very good football coaches who would need to bring in an excellent offensive coordinator.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Why is Fangio a “very good football coach”? That’s insane. Give examples.

          • catfish44

            ”insane”? that is how you a dfference in opinion? lmao.

    • Irish Sweetness

      (vomits)

      He made NO argument …. and if that douchebag isn’t fired for flaccidity and inertness, then he becomes factor number one when Kyle Fuller is making his mind up. We need Kyle Fuller on the team, not a ball-less philistine like Vic Fangio.

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/28/how-high-up-will-bears-changes-go/

    How high up will Bears changes go? With Firefox all but gone will more changes be made higher up the food chain say beyond Pace?

    • DaBearsBlog

      No. Nonsense story.

      • SC Dave

        Probably, but the concluding question is legitimate imo.

  • evantonio

    Am I the only one who thinks it’s funny that Olin shoots highlight videos off his laptop?

    • Dis Guy Trublinsky

      No. I also laughed because I’m sure there are dozens upon dozens of clips already out there of that play that are of a much higher quality. But he chose that one.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I am guessing that part of it is because the NFL is a bitch about copyrights. If the play is not part of the NFL package of highlights they release then they make people take the highlight down.

    • Olin cordiially invites you to an FBI gunrange to check out his new laptop…

  • leftcoastdave

    “In my mind, the Bears completely botched Shaheen’s rookie season. Six
    packages for him? Six packages total because he’s not a great run
    blocker? On a team with the worst pass-catching options in the entire
    league, shouldn’t it have become a priority to work Shaheen into the
    passing attack as more than an “in-line tight end” the second Cam
    Meredith’s knee blew up? But of course not. Gotta keep throwing those
    passes to Josh Bellamy.”

    El Jeffe, think. Just like Tarik the Freak getting only 1/3 of the snaps, Pace and Fox want to bring Shaheen along slowly while taking a YUGE leap to the NFL. Cohen mentioned in an interview where he took a couple of big hits in the Atlanta game (welcome to the NFL hits) and thereafter adjusted his play to avoid such hits he knew he could not regularly take. Similarly, Shaheen is used to crushing anybody else on the field. That was then, this is now. He is being learned up as a blocker for good reason. His body is being built up for the NFL for good reason. It’s called a ten year impact career, no different from how Mitchell has been brought along s-l-o-w-l-y. That is the story of this season and cudos for John Fox for taking the heat while developing three potentially great players without getting them maimed for life.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Assuming Minnesota beats the brakes off us …. where do we finish up draft-wise?

    Walter have us drafting Calvin Ridley, WR:

    http://walterfootball.com/draft2018.php

    • Bear Instincts

      http://abcnews.go.com/Sports/projected-2018-nfl-draft-order-top-picks-browns/story?id=51963091
      we would pick 7th if we lose and 13th or 14th if we win
      1-Brown – QB
      2-Colts – ???
      3-Giants – QB
      4-49ers – ???
      5-Cleveland-WR
      6-Bucs-???
      7-Bears-EDGE or OT
      all of this is subject to trades

      • leftcoastdave

        Niners have a shot with the Lambs sitting Goff and others. We are also behind the Broncs who have a chance of winning.

        • CanadaBear

          And the Jets (who play the Pats, Yikes).

        • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

          agreed, Chiefs are playing Mahomes and will be sitting other starters.

      • Irish Sweetness

        7 spots if we win?

        Damn you Cleveland.

    • CanadaBear

      I seriously doubt Pace takes a WR in the first. Once bitten …

      • Bear Instincts

        Absolutely right. Plus we have FA: Davante Adams (Packers) + Paul Richardson (Seattle). We will also get one in the draft possibly in the second round. Meredith is coming back along with K.White because of money. Inman will be trying to earn a roster spot along with the rest of the stragglers

        • leftcoastdave

          We gotta no second . . . yet?

          • leftcoastdave

            My bad, no third. Will we get a high compensatory for AJ?

          • Bear Instincts

            we probably wont get anything higher than a 3rd rounder and even then it depends on the value of all the players who we sign in free agency. Since we signed a bunch of scrubs we may get a 4th rounder

          • Sactowns#1

            Can someone give me a quick rundown on how the compensatory picks work?

          • CanadaBear

            Wish I could Sac. The NFL likes to keep the formula a secret (true story). It takes in account who they lost and who they signed in the off season. It seems like no matter who the Bears lose, they never get compensated and vice-versa for the Pats.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Like CBear said it is a secret. However Overthecap.com has been tracking it for years and they came up with somewhat of a formula and have been very good at projecting what each team will get.

            https://overthecap.com/the-basics-and-methodology-of-projecting-the-nfls-compensatory-draft-picks/

          • SC Dave

            Damn, that’s some long-winded stuff. Yikes.

          • CanadaBear

            Pace signed a bunch of FA’s so who knows? Seems like the Bears rarely ever get compensated.

          • Big Mike

            what?

      • Irish Sweetness

        6’1 190. Yah, we need to hit. It’s time we tried the OT.

    • leftcoastdave

      OT or Edge. OT my first pick. The O line is the foundation upon which an offense is built to allow the ball to be thrown to that overpaid receiver.

    • Big Mike

      Have any of the draft services been right about the Bears even 1x in the last 5 years?

    • ButtonShoes

      Walter can go fuck himself. No more top-10 WR picks for Pace. EVER.

  • CanadaBear

    Depending on the new coach and scheme (let’s hope) I hope they take an OLB/DE in the first or OL. They also need to address CB. I don’t care how many WR’s they draft as long as they stay away in the first rd. I hope they sign at least two WR FA’s and one of them is a top guy in FA. Time to spend some of the McCaskey fortune on good FA’s instead of going through the cut-out bin (hideously old reference to vinyl).

    • leftcoastdave

      I consider it conventional wisdom that it will be Edge OT one and two depending upon how the staff judges the drop off in talent from one through four in each group. This might even be the year when that first pick can get traded down for capital to trade the second up for two blue chippers at those positions. It will be fun to see how that plays out.

      • CanadaBear

        They might go CB in the first. Who knows? As long as they are good players I’m OK with the pick.

        • Sactowns#1

          NO! No CB in the 1st.

          • CanadaBear

            Do you hate going that position in the first rd or is this a bad year for CB’s?

          • Sactowns#1

            I hate going CB that early. I want an impact player in the first round. Someone who is going to come in and be a difference maker. To me, the hierarchy in that regard (given our current needs) goes Defense- either lineman or LB and offense either OL or WR. Considering Calvin Ridley is the only viable 1st round WR, if he’s off the board then we take either a lineman or a LB.

          • CanadaBear

            I would hate to see Pace go WR in the first because as near as I can tell he has no idea what a good WR looks like.

          • Bender McLugh

            Because of White? That’s unfair ya think

          • Bear Instincts

            No quality WR’s outside of Ridley. Best value for our pick is EDGE or OT

          • CanadaBear

            Mostly that but look what he went into this season with this year. Meredith is a #2 at best, White has shown nothing and all the stiffs he signed and traded for have added up to almost zero. NTM he couldn’t figure out what to do with Alshon.

          • Bender McLugh

            Hmmmm….

          • SC Dave

            Wheaton?

          • Bender McLugh

            Hits & misses is my point. Pace just has serttled to hit on WR s far

          • Just Bears luck.

            Desperatly need a WR.

            Best draftee is some 6’0 190 pound Knox clone.

      • Bear Instincts

        Pace has never traded down in the first round in 3 drafts. He traded up the last 2 and stood still the first one. Its only 3 drafts but he seems like he wants the best bang for his buck in the first and then wheel and deal in the lower rounds.

        Im starting to lean towards OT over EDGE. MT10 needs protection. We can get EDGE in the 2nd and again with the extra 4th

    • ButtonShoes

      BRADLEY.

      CHUBB.

  • CanadaBear

    Hey Jeff, did you buy your old buddy Haugh an Old Stool just for laughs?

    • Sactowns#1

      Seriously, who the hell drinks Miller/Coors products? Blue moon is trash.

      • CanadaBear

        Never had it. Although I sure drank my fair share of Old Stool. Never liked Miller/Coors products.

        • Sactowns#1

          It’s literally a beer that was designed for people who don’t like beer. they encourage people to add an orange or orange juice to it. That’s how you know it’s garbage.

          • CanadaBear

            I used to think the same thing about Corona back in the day.

          • Sactowns#1

            What made you stop thinking that about corona? lol It’s garbage that the Mexicans wont even drink.

          • CanadaBear

            I stopped drinking almost 24 years ago. Since then I don’t think about it too much (other than to reflect on the good/bad times).

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Not true. Mexicans drink the shit out of Corona.

          • Depends. Mex-ams do.
            Mexicans in Mex prefer other stuff like Carta Blanca, Bohemia, etc

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I owned a bar, and had a lot of Mexicans come in. These are non english speaking and probably illegal Mexicans. We had 3 different groups, farm, restaurant, and construction workers. The groups were heavily rotated so it was never the same people in the groups from month to month or season to season. My bar was the only bar in the area that actually had a decent selection of imports including Carta Blanca, Modelo, Corona, and I would cater to requests. I always asked each group of Mexicans if there was a beer they wanted me to stock. 90% of them drank Corona and did not want anything else.

          • SC Dave

            Cheapest?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            nope I priced all my imports the same so my idiot staff could remember prices.

          • SC Dave

            No accounting for taste then, eh?

          • It’s like the bud of mexico.

          • Should’ve said, mexicans in the U.S.

            When I visited over there, most of them drank anything but Corona (TJ , Cancun, etc don’t count). Then again, those bars/clubs I went to wern’t exactly blue collar.

            And the “trendy” youths drank…Samuel Adams or anything German

            Go figure.

      • Tastes like rusty water

      • SC Dave

        Every once in a while, I drink a Miller High Life for old time’s same.

        But only one.

        Blue Moon, by the way, is not beer. I don’t know what it is, but it ain’t beer.

        • leftcoastdave

          You better stick to just one. It is notoriously high in un-fermented sugars which ferment in your GI with the result being your being banned from polite society.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            surely not. not from the “Champagne of Beers”.

          • leftcoastdave

            That’s Champagn of Bottled Beers. My uncle worked for Miller after Marquette and the Navy so there is a picture of me at 18 months on a picnic table holding a can of Miller in one hand and the handle of a Miller cooler in the other hand wearing only a big cloth diaper and a big smile.

  • CanadaBear

    Good look at some roster cuts in the off season. Both Freeman and Young no longer have lockers at Halas Hall. They are the only ones on IR that don’t. Not surprised by Freeman’s but a little surprised by Willie’s. That can’t bode well for either of them.

    https://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/making-the-cuts-bears-easily-can-retool-roster-with-new-players-for-new-coach/

    • Bear Instincts

      so we are getting a new corp of linebackers. all the more reason to keep Fangio if the new HC wants to

    • leftcoastdave

      The Freeman issue is interesting, given the suspension he still faces. He was awesome last year (16) and would he be worth stashing during the suspension as insurance?

      • CanadaBear

        If the Bears were going forward with Freeman they wouldn’t have put him on IR. They would have let him serve his 10 games while he was dinged up. He’s gone for sure.

        • leftcoastdave

          But they are paying him on IR. Won’t he lose his pay during the suspension? Questions I have which makes me wonder if they don’t want him available after game six next year as injury insurance.

          • CanadaBear

            They won’t be paying him next year. Pretty sure of that.

      • SC Dave

        Its really a shame on Jarrell. He was our best linebacker when on the field.

        DT has looked better later this season, but I think part of it is that he does not have Freeman next to him to make a side-by-side comparison.

        • leftcoastdave

          I still have hope they can keep him on the cheap during his suspension. Otherwise, why not let him sit out suspended and unpaid while injured? Must be something there I don’t know about or the possibility of having him available after six games next year.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

    I decided to look back at the 2016 Draft because I always get a little wary of the people that want the Bears to lose to move up a pick or two. If one looks at the latter half of the 1st round and first half of the 2nd the draft is jam packed with contributing starters, some pro-bowlers, etc. You don’t need to pick 2nd or 7th or whatever to get a solid player. You just have to try to manage to not find the biggest bust in the draft.

    It seems like every fucking year the Steelers pick 26th or some shit and get some bad ass motherfucker.

    • Sactowns#1

      Every year I hope we move back in the draft and stack up picks precisely for this reason. Could this be the year?

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

        maybe not stockpile picks but maybe just enough to get another bite at the apple in round1 or 2.
        There is a lot of pressure for a top 10 pick even though history has shown that a ton of awesome dudes were available in the latter half of the first round and the first half of the 2nd.
        If we take a WR i’ll feel weird about it. It just makes it more likely that we’ll see another common average face on our D or O again if we waste it on a WR.

        • SC Dave

          I would rather get a Jeffery-level pick (mid 2nd round) and ride with a real FA.

          Shit, next year at least MT will be practicing with the 1s all the time.

        • ButtonShoes

          Bradley Chubb. That’s who you want. That’s who we should all want. A real, honest-to-goodness edge rusher who will rip and tear his way through opposing OLs.

    • This yr I was hoping the Bears would get at least the #3 pick.
      Why? Well, I think Darnold and Rosen are all but gone #1 and #2.

      So the #3 could theoretically draft a Myles Garrett type talent.

      God knows we need a blue-chip pass rusher.

      It’s also entirely possible that owning that #3 pick could fetch a treasure trove of picks (think semi-Wentz)

      “To move from No. 8 to No. 2 overall last April, the Eagles offered up a
      first-, third- and a fourth-round pick in 2016, a first-round pick in
      ’17 and a second-round pick in ’18 in exchange for the rights to Wentz
      and a ’17 fourth-rounder.”

      because IMO many teams are going to be scrambling to take Rudolph, Mayfield or Josh Allen.

      Ppl might argue building a winning culture and finishing strong can help an org.

      But a first, third, fourth + another first and 2nd sure helps too.

      And incidentally, would be a YUGE sell for a perspective HC.

      • CanadaBear

        From what I’ve read, if the Bears lose and the other 5-10 teams (Jets, Broncos, 49ers) win they will get the 6th pick. That’s the best they can do.

        • Yeah, realistically, we’re getting a 10ish pick. We’d be lucky to be able to draft the top OT with that slot.

          at 10ish, the top 2-3 pass rushers
          Top CB
          Top OT
          Top WR
          …………………. will be long gone.

          Could still nab top S/ILB/OG typically at 10

          This draft might be a little different because of the QB class. Might push down more talent.

          Also, 3tech DTs tend to fall because they’re very scheme specific (think Aaron Donald), so if we switch to a 4-3 under Chico, that would probably be a realistic priority.

          No doubt we can find talent at #10 still, but I would have preferred the boatload of picks.

          Could worry about building a “winning culture” once Weekend at Bernies in thrown to sea.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        If we get a true blue chip pass rusher, that front is going to be scary good.

      • leftcoastdave

        A trade down is more likely that last year even with a 7 or 8 pick because of the potential QB scramble in addition to Saquon Barkley being in the mix. And I am seeing ND’s Quenton Nelson (G) being projected as the first OL off the board. Mike McGlinchy is projected by many ad the number one OT but falling out of the top ten. If that first round pick can get more capital and still land a blue chip OT as well as a blue chip Edge by moving up with the second, that would be hitting it out of the park.

        • Bear Instincts

          Trade down is possible since most of the teams in front of us need a QB
          1-Brown – QB
          2-Giants – QB
          3-Colts – Saquon Barkley
          4-Brown – ???
          5-Bucs – EDGE (Bradley Chubb)
          6-Broncos – QB
          7-Jets – QB or EDGE (Arden Key)
          8-49ers – Quenton Nelson
          9-Bears – EDGE or OT

          With Chubb, Key and Nelson gone we have no reason not to trade down and stock pile picks

    • ButtonShoes

      Steelers know how to draft. Pace doesn’t.

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  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

    So, with the draft several months away here is my thinking on the Bears season and where we go from here:

    DL: I believe we got an absolute steal in RRH. That dude played college ball at 255 and packed on 45 lbs in one fucking year. Imagine when he gets more used to playing at 6’5 300. That’s the prototype 5 Tech without needing to draft a Stephon Tuitt (like the Steelers did and who I had a huge bone for at the time).So RRH, Bullard, Hicks, Goldman and a plug and play white backup or black dude with a jersey number in the high 60’s or 70’s and we’re all set there.

    CB: Re-sign Fuller unless he wants the world then let him bounce.

    WR: must be addressed and I think it’s time we overpay for an above average vet WR that knows how to learn a pro offense and can quickly get on the same page as Mitch. Keep White as the #5 or 6 WR to see if we can turn him into a possession guy. Send him into the line of fire for a year or two until he dies on the field and then move on. Bellamy intrigues me. He’s such a little fucking aggressive asshat and I love it. He has no right to be this cocky but he almost wills himself into success. It’s only his 2nd year of really consistent playing time and he’s averaging over 13yds per catch…when he catches it. He’s always open and he can play specials. He’s basically Joe Anderson but more athletic and I secretly really like him. Inman steps in to the 3 or 4 role and Kendall Wright continues his strong finish to the season, even though he basically threw the OC under the bus. Meredith as your 2 or 3 and bring on that #1 WR vet.
    OL/Edge Rusher: with the top of the draft this year being a possible QB gangbang there is a chance that the Bears can once again select a top Edge Rusher or OL. My first thought is how we’ll creatively fuck this up but I have to believe Pace will get an impact Edge or OL here picking at 7 or 8. this is the year I’d even be ok with moving back at the last minute if a QB panicked team calls and wants to pick Josh Allen or Darnold or Mayfield at 8 and we can still stay in the first round somehow.
    *****The list of teams that could seriously be in play for a QB that pick behind us is pretty long:
    Bengals
    Cards
    Jets
    Skins
    Chargers (maybe less likely)
    Bills
    Jags
    Steelers
    Pats (not likely that Pats will move up considering Brady will win another super bowl this year)
    RB: we’re all set at RB and can snag an inexplicable draft downward spiral of one of the top college RB’s when it happens.
    TE: wanted to see more Shaheen to see what we had and since Miller is done. I don’t want to go into 2018 with Sims or Brown at the other TE.
    CB: Fuller is a mystery to me. He was feisty and aggressive and made plays at Virginia, then became below average with the Bears, then plays well in his contract year. Who knows at this point. I say bring in a lower priced vet if you can’t sign him to a reasonable deal.
    Safety: Amos is a placeholder for me so I would not be mad with a 2nd round pick of a Safety from a big school that can play the run and cover.
    ILB: Freeman is gone, Trevathan is always hurt, Kwiat is always white and Timu is a perennial run stuffing bad ass who will break your heart if he has to cover consistently throughout a game. We need a vet signing like we did with James Anderson or we need to trade picks to move up in the 2nd round. we need to shore up the middle. what good is a badass D line if your linebackers are average.
    Kicker: fucking Gould, takes a year off and then comes back like a Phoenix rising from the ashes and we’re stuck with Cairos Santos who is good but WILL get hurt again. Then we’re back on the street looking for a kicker during the season.
    Backup QB: I know this sounds weird but with our running game and a few upgrades to the WR and OL position I’d bring in a super athletic (read:black) quarterback that can run the read option and tuck it and run for yardage. don’t bother trying to bring in the next Jimmy G as a backup, it’s easier to throw a young athlete into the bonfire of hell that is the NFL game and let him run around with the ball and get head blasted a few times while we wait for Mitch to get healthy should he go down than it is to have someone try to come in and throw it effectively with limited reps.

    • leftcoastdave

      You forgot John Jenkins who has been amazingly adequate.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        Amazingly adequate.

        • leftcoastdave

          Yup. Gets it done and was better than expected.

        • MBs porn name.

          • Dis Guy Trublinsky

            Hahahaha!

            “Short guy. Tries very hard with good, workmanlike effort. Average to ordinary penis. Lacks explosiveness but good pad level and knack for angles and leverage in traffic.”

          • leftcoastdave

            But does he have stamina?

          • bwhahaa
            Gonna text him that.

        • ButtonShoes

          That’s pretty much every single player on this Bears team, with the exception of Hicks or Howard.

    • SC Dave

      I think you have a great read in the WR situation (gawd, IF Bellamy can learn to catch…). We are all pulling hard for Meredith, of course, but we need a true vet with smarts and skill to be our #1.

      The biggest shame IMO was the whole Freeman thing. After watching the first few games he played for the Beloved, I was convinced we had a multi-year SOLID dude on the inside. A real Bears LB.
      *sigh*

      • I don’t know why we didn’t just let him serve his suspension this yr.

        As if Timu or Anderson were ever going to become as good.

        I would’ve let him serve his suspension, shell out the bucks, and be ready to roll with him and Tre next yr.

        • CanadaBear

          That’s was my point with LCD. He ain’t coming back. No matter how well he played, getting popped twice in a row is a bad look. You really have to be slow to get caught twice.

          • leftcoastdave

            But they have already shelled out the bucks, right? Now if they keep him, he is unpaid on suspension? Then after six games you decide if you need him?

            I may be wrong somewhere there, but I cain’t figger it out.

          • CanadaBear

            It looks bad for the org to bring back a serial druggie. Getting caught twice in a year is a really bad look.

    • ButtonShoes

      You have that much faith in RRH, despite him showing absolutely nothing? And as much as I have been hoping Bullard would show out, through 2 years there’s pretty much been nothing there, either. And that’s with Fangio as his DC. We’re going to need more help on the DL. That and we need to keep Eddie Goldman healthy.

  • Bender McLugh

    WR Deontay Burnett, USC

    I love this guys game, catches allot of tough throws but not sure how consistently.

    What round is he projected to go? would be a great addition.

    http://m.espn.com/ncf/playercard?playerId=3932935

    Highlights (haven’t watched yet, probably has crap music)
    https://youtu.be/gtZy4YyxX0U

    • SC Dave

      No doubt the term ‘music’ only loosely applies.

  • Bear Instincts

    For all those with a hardon for O’Brien you might get your wish
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/29/report-dysfunctional-relationship-persists-between-bill-obrien-rick-smith/

    Report: “Dysfunctional” relationship persists between Bill O’Brien, Rick Smith

    • ButtonShoes

      Yeah, a big fat “no” to him.

  • Bear Instincts

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2017/12/29/james-harrison-i-didnt-sign-up-to-be-a-cheerleader/

    “If anybody thought I signed a two year deal with a team in the NFL at age 39 to sit on the bench and collet a check and a participation trophy, they’re mistaken,” he wrote. “I didn’t sign up to sit on the bench and be a cheerleader. I was clear about that when I signed, and I was told I would be on the field when I signed…I know what my body needs in order to be in shape to compete…Maybe I didn’t handle my frustration the best that I could’ve. If you haven’t learned anything about me over the last 16 years, I’m a competitor to my core. I live and breathe competition. I do what it takes to keep my body and my mind ready to be on that field. I do it for me, I do it for my family, I do it for my team and I do it for the fans. Nothing else to it. At the end of the day, they made a business decision and so did I.”

    This is the guy you want on your team. Love his attitude.

    • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

      Straight up gladiator.

    • BearDown100393

      This will haunt the Steelers.

      Good.

    • SC Dave

      I want him on my team 12 years ago

      • leftcoastdave

        And for the last 12 years.

    • That’s some BAD mojo for the Steelers.

      I’m getting the sense he’s going to kill one of the Killer Bs on the Steelers at Gillette.

      • SC Dave

        Fuck the goddamn Patriots. It’s always the same, isn’t it?

  • Bear Instincts

    We can select as high as 6th with a loss or as low as 12th with a win. We are one of four teams sitting at 5-10 — but we would lose every tiebreaker because of our superior strength of schedule. The only way the we draft before the 49ers, Broncos and Jets is if they all win Sunday and the we lose.

    • leftcoastdave

      9ers and Horsies have a good chance at wins. The Jets against the Pats? Not so much.

      I think it will be 7 or 8 with any luck.

    • BearDown100393

      I don’t get care about draft order.

      I care about winning games.

      The guys in the locker are not going to care about draft order either. They worry about their jobs. Not Paces. And certainly not some draft pick looking to take one of their jobs.

      Win a divisional game already.

    • ButtonShoes

      I hope everyone wins and we lose. I want as good a chance to draft Chubb as possible. Then you have to hope that Pace will do that. And when it comes to the draft, he never does the smart, obvious thing – he gambles.

      • BearDown100393

        You truly believe Pace will intelligently draft anything by the book?

        • ButtonShoes

          No. I’m hoping, though. A futile hope, probably, but there it is.

  • leftcoastdave

    OT v Edge?

    The Citrus Bowl will feature ND’s number one ranked OT in McGlinchy against LSU’s number one ranked Edge in Arden Key. That will be fun to watch as will Ferrell and Bryant, the number 2 and 3 ranked Edge OLBs playing for Clemson. Sam Hubbard from OSU is also ranked up there and they play the University of Spoiled Children tonight. We’ll get good looks at Edge rushers in the Bowl games with Porter Gustin also highly ranked for SC.

    Given the current rankings it looks to me like a big drop off at OT after McGlinchy with many more impact Edge players available for the second pick.

    • Bear Instincts

      No matter what we pick we will be getting best in class most of the teams in front of us need a QB (4 of them)
      1-Brown – QB
      2-Giants – QB
      3-Colts – Saquon Barkley
      4-Brown – ???
      5-Bucs – EDGE (Bradley Chubb)
      6-Broncos – QB
      7-Jets – QB or EDGE (Arden Key)
      8-49ers – Quenton Nelson
      9-Bears – EDGE or OT

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

    Anyone else have a total bone for Derwin James?
    FSU Safety 6’3 212 4.40 40yd Dash and not white.

    • SC Dave

      I’d be better if he were white and an inch or two taller so he could be our new Urlacher

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

        Lol, there will never be another Urlacher.
        6’4 245 linebacker/safety hybrid that returned punts.
        Gained fucking 20lbs for the combine, sucked at OLB then got a chance to play ILB due to injury now goes to HOF.
        People forget how fucking huge he was. I saw him slouched over a poker table in Elgin when he was drafted and his back must have been 3ft wide. Neck thick like a pitbull.

        • SC Dave

          A boy can dream, right? If Shaheen can put on 10 pounds eating fucking burritos and pushing plates, what’s 40 pounds or so?

          James is too damn short tho.

  • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0
    • CanadaBear

      Look at you all feisty as hell posting like a madman!

      • Russian Hacked Pacebot 3.0

        I stopped into the office, got some shit done, wanted to leave early but spent the last 2 hours watching highlights.

      • SC Dave

        It’s Version 3.0 now.

        Just sayin’

  • leftcoastdave

    Tonight we get to see two top ranked ILBs in Jerome Baker playing for the Buckeys and Cameron Smith for the condoms.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • leftcoastdave

      The pack looks to get 4-5 compensatories this year.

    • BerwynBomber

      LOL. They made him the fourth highest paid WR in the NFL?

      Reminds me when they threw a ton of money at Nick Perry last year.

      They are not a smart organization.

      • SC Dave

        They have Rodgers

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        he has more catches, more yards and more TDs this year than Alshon Jeffery. and thats what a lot of people around here wanted to pay AJ.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Jets re-upped Todd Bowles thru 2020.

    Radio hosf/Jets fan I heard talking about it on CBS Radio this afternoon was NOT pleased.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Are any Jets fan happy about anything….ever?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Should they be?

        • leftcoastdave

          Sure, living in The Big Apple gives them the right to look down on everybody else, so yea, they should be happy.

    • I don’t know about extending him, but the Jets definitely overachieved.

      They somehow put together an offense with McCown and Anderson and Powell/Forte

      They also traded away Sheldon Richardson and are likely dumping Mo.

      If they get the QB right to sit behind McCown, and get a weapon or two, I think they’re in biz.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy trails, Dick Orkin, the man behind CHICKENMAN and a host of award winning radio spots who passed away a couple days ago.

    Old time Chicagoans/WCFL-In-The-60s listeners will know this name.

    The guy was a true genius of radio advertising.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dick_Orkin

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog I wouldn’t have touched Davante Adams. Without Rodgers he’s mediocre.”

    Pretty much my feeling too (though I’d rate him above mediocre).

    Beware overpaying all WRs who play with truly great/HoF QBs (Brady, Rodgers, Brees). We’ve seen it too many times.

    • SC Dave

      The Packers are overpaying for the chemistry with Rodgers. That’s worth something, and they get it immediately rather than waiting for it to (maybe) develop.

      • Think it also signals Jordy is done.

        He looks broken out there.

        • ButtonShoes

          Good. Fuck him. Jordy Nelson can rot.

    • ButtonShoes

      Of course you should beware. But this team has no choice but to look for WR help everywhere. Pace has botched up WR so thoroughly that he’ll have to overpay a FA or 2 in order to give Mitch some targets to throw to.

      • leftcoastdave

        Give Mitch a better OL and he will have time for anybody to get open. WR’s are overpaid and overrated.

        • ButtonShoes

          Attitudes like that get you Josh Bellamy, Markus Wheaton, and Dontrelle Inman as your WR corp. Mitch needs targets. Legit, real targets.

  • willbest

    Ryan Pace is rumored to be in extension talks? Has Sac had an aneurism yet?

    • Sactowns#1

      Hang on. I’m booking my flight to Chi right now. Somebody tell where on the south side I can get a heater.

      • Dis Guy Trublinsky

        From what I’ve read, pretty much anywhere.

      • willbest

        If it makes you feel better, I don’t agree with the extension at all.

        My only thinking on why the McCaskey would extend Pace is because it provides additional assurances to the next Head Coach that there won’t be a new GM next year. So Pace gets a 2 year extension and then the head coach prospect knows that he has a 3 years window.

        • SC Dave

          There you go.

      • leftcoastdave

        The right question is where on the south side is there not a heater available for a few bucks. But hey, gun control is the answer, right?

  • CanadaBear

    Last injury report before the game. If I had to guess, none of them dress!

    Bears final injury report vs. Minnesota: DOUBTFUL — right tackle Bobby
    Massie (knee) and guard Josh Sitton (ankle). QUESTIONABLE — tight end
    Adam Shaheen (chest) and safety DeAndre Houston-Carson (back).

    • willbest

      We are going up against the vikings D with our #4 and 5 guards? and our backup tackle? I hope Mitch plays exceptionally smart.

      • CanadaBear

        As long as he doesn’t get hurt, it should be interesting. You can see the progress.

      • SC Dave

        Yes, like throw the ball oob right away.

      • Bender McLugh

        Lots o’ screens

  • CanadaBear
  • BerwynBomber

    TB is keeping Koetter for another year? Good lord …

  • ButtonShoes

    1) Your apologia for the McCaskeys and Ted Phillips is well noted, Jeff. But just because you’ve somehow tricked yourself into believing that those people are not the problem doesn’t make it so. The rest of us trying to break the cycle of making excuses for this team know that the problem with it starts at the very top. And that it’s 100% justifiable to freak out any time Ted Phillips’s name is mentioned in anything this team does. Because he is a disaster, a reflection of our ownership.

    2) The team that pays up for Kyle Fuller is going to regret it. The Bears didn’t pick up his option and it lit a fire under his ass: produce, or get out of the league. But that doesn’t change the years of failure between the first half of his rookie season and this year. The second this kid gets paid, he’ll revert. Tag him at best. Let some other team take the chance on a long-term deal with him.

    3) There’s word coming out from Ian Rapoport that Pace will be extended. YUCK. Frankly he ought to be fired with Fox. He needs to go. He’s been a horrible GM: at best mediocre at the draft (he’s already had his first 1st round bust – I wonder when he’ll have his second?), horrific at signing free agents, hiding from the fans and media in that unaccountable McCaskey way, and he has no idea how to assemble a team that wins. 14 wins in 47 tries. Jesus H. Fucking Christ. And after Sunday it’ll most likely be 14 in 48. Phil Emery got 23 in 3 years and he was drummed out on his ass, but Pace gets an extension? And yet people wonder why some call the Bears the Browns of the NFC.

    4) But Rapoport also says that he’ll get an extension to match whatever the contract length is for the new coach. And in that one way it makes sense, despite Pace’s horrible tenure with the team. It ties him to this new coach, and gives the new coach some assurance that he won’t have to deal with a change in regime. If they don’t win (which I suspect will be the case, but we’ll see), the coach will get fired. And Pace will follow right with him, and never get another GM job ever again.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Pay Fuller. You have to pay someone.

    Is Ted Phillips respected around the league (even dropping the hyperbolic adjective?)

    • ButtonShoes

      Pay him by tagging him.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why one year? Somebody has to get paid, let it be him. He stepped up. I wouldn’t pay Kyle Long or Akiem Hicks. Softly softly with them, but Kyle is good to go.

        • ButtonShoes

          I don’t trust Kyle’s production. Let him prove he’s the real deal by doing it one more year.

        • leftcoastdave

          The best strategy I heard was offer 4x12m with half guaranteed and if he does not take it, tag him. I’m good with that. The young man chose to man up this year, as opposed to last year, so pay him to keep playing at this level.

  • leftcoastdave

    Don’t think Darnell needs to talk smack about the Browns anymore after tonight.

  • leftcoastdave

    Don’t look now, but the Big Ten is 5-0 with Michigan left to beat South Carolina for a bowl sweep. And the question of the night, how did Iowa put up 55 points in kicking the Buckey’s butts?

  • leftcoastdave

    Oops. Also Wisconsin v. Miami tomorrow. That should be a game.

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