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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Needs, Comparisons, Tweets & Other Things

| September 12th, 2017

2018 Needs Rankings

Need 1. Wide Receiver

Outside of a few teams desperate for a quarterback, the Bears may have a bigger need at WR than any team’s need at any position. In the last few weeks they have lost their number one and number two options while already heading into 2017 with one of the weakest receiving tandems in the game. It would be great to know if the quarterback of the future is capable of elevating lesser receiving talents before the Bears invest big money/high pick in the position, wouldn’t it?

Need 2. Pass Rusher

Bears have Leonard Floyd. They need another one.

Need 3. Smooth Tackling Safety

Bears need a bopper at the third level. They need a sure-thing tackling machine. Quintin Demps Sunday missed two pivotal tackles, one in the backfield and one down field on the big Hooper touchdown. Make those tackles, change the score.

Hoge on the Glennon/Barkley Comparison

This is as good a passage as I’ve read from a beat this season:

Last November against the Titans, Matt Barkley was the quarterback making his first start for the Chicago Bears. He wasn’t great early, but surprised everyone in the fourth quarter as offensive coordinator Dowell Loggains aired it out in a comeback attempt. Operating with replacement-level receivers, Barkley got the Bears down to the Titans’ 7-yard-line with 47 seconds left in the game. On first down, Bellamy dropped a touchdown. On second and third down, Barkley failed to connect with his intended targets. And on fourth down, Deonte Thompson failed to haul in a low, but catchable pass in the end zone. The Bears lost.

Sunday against the Falcons, Mike Glennon was the quarterback making his first start for the Chicago Bears. He wasn’t great early, but surprised everyone in the fourth quarter as Loggains aired it out in a comeback attempt. Operating with replacement-level receivers, Glennon got the Bears down to the Falcons’ 5-yard-line with 21 seconds left in the game. On first down, Bellamy was held slightly coming out of his break and couldn’t secure a catchable pass in the end zone. On second down, running back Jordan Howard dropped Glennon’s pass near the goal line. On third down, Glennon failed to connect with tight end Zach Miller and on fourth down, Glennon was sacked. The Bears lost.

Not much was different Sunday at Soldier Field. Except that this time the Bears might have had their own Marcus Mariota standing on their sideline in uniform.

Was Mike Glennon the reason why the Bears lost to the Falcons? No. But Trubisky could have been the reason why they beat the Falcons. We’ll never know.

This will become the trend in coverage. It won’t be that Glennon goes out and loses games. He doesn’t take enough chances to do that. It’ll be that he doesn’t do anything to win them. And Trubisky waits, patiently.

Dumbest Tweet of the Opener

I mean, c’mon. What the hell is “fine”? And  didn’t the Bears draft Trubisky because “fine” is not enough?

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  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    A couple of friends and I ordered a pizza last night. The first 3/4 of pizza was underwhelming and awful, it was so bad that I was hesitant to even call it pizza. The final 1/4 of pizza was better and almost got to the point of good, but was still lacking. I guess most people would say the pizza was fine.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Do you have pollen?

      Pizza Q: I can get two medium pizza huts delivered to the house for 11 bucks. What’s that in the States?

      • Corporal Clott

        Pizza Hut sells pizza?

        • CanadaBear

          Really, really shitty pizza.

          • Corporal Clott

            Hahaha Canada. Only in America can a company sell shit and find plenty of people to shovel in into their mouths.

          • CanadaBear

            PH still operates here in Canada. Although I have to admit I don’t think they are thriving. Convenient and cheap food will almost always have a market in North America. I only wish it was better!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Pizza Hut closed a couple months ago where i live.

          • CanadaBear

            Same here. I wouldn’t know that except they knocked the bldg down. I ate at a PH in Regina about 5 years ago and it was hideous. Never say never but I can’t imagine I will ever eat at another one!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I don’t understand “Do you have pollen?”

        and as far as pizza you can usually find deals better than that.

      • willbest

        I presume like all the other low end pizza chains it depends on the day of the week since they are always running some promotion or another on top of whatever coupon came in the mail that week

    • CanadaBear

      That analogy convinced me, start fucking Trubisky!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        What???? I was just talking about pizza. That’s a pretty big leap you made, CBear.

  • Irish Sweetness

    David Johnson dislocated his wrist? Extended time out? Can’t they amputate?

    God, I miss the Eighties.

  • Corporal Clott

    Are you trying to prove a negative Jeff? Here’s one for you…. If the Bears fielded a first class WR core group and a RB with hands, the Bears are easily 1-0. Also, if grasshoppers had machine guns, birds wouldn’t jack with them. Hee hee

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bellamy is good on a good day. Jordan doesn’t have hands, period. You throw that ball to Tarik, not Jordan. But yeah, we were the talk of the league if somebody holds on (shrugs).

    • evantonio

      if grasshoppers had machine guns, how would they fire them? the lack of thumbs makes it difficult for them to pull the trigger. also, how strong are these grasshoppers? you’d have to think that even the strongest grasshopper couldn’t hold the smallest machine gun.

      unless the machine guns in question are built to scale for the grasshoppers. and if that’s the case, who’s building them and what’s the profit margin behind it? does the nra defend grasshopper rights, or do we humans now need more guns to defend ourselves from the oncoming insect hordes?

      • Corporal Clott

        Gordon Gecko loves the NRA. He he

      • King of DBB

        Far out, man.

        • CanadaBear

          Gotta say this isn’t working for me.

      • willbest

        I assume PETA would be arming the grasshoppers, then again their primary purpose in life seems to be protecting fury animals that are the bane of every farmer or our food source while euthanizing dogs and cats by the truck load.

  • Corporal Clott

    “Gruden just called a first round pick a “diamond in the rough”. He’s just really dumb” Surly Jeff

    Maybe Phil Emery agree’s with Guden? Lol

  • Irish Sweetness

    Johnny-on-the-content-Jeff’s #2 and #3:

    These were our needs in 2017 too.

    Pass-rusher to balance Leonard:

    Absolutely. So why didn’t we draft one in the second round? OLBs? There was a fuck-ton available. Take your pick. Could have had Solomon Thomas if that was your guy and Cutty was a Bear playing out his contract. Cutty’d have gotten injured and the Darnold Derby is entered. As long as we’re sussing Pace out. You want Trubs … or Darnold and Thomas? Eh?

    Adam Shaheen, ladies and gents. Another Tight End …. to go along with the best hands in the NFL, Zack Miller, and a beast we’re paying 6M a year to. Your second round pick of the 2017 NFL draft, Adam Shaheen. Let’s revisit that one in three years, but for now our survey says .. .FML.

    Smooth-tackling safety:

    Absolutely. #3 was too high to take Adams, but not Obi or Budda in the second. And could we have had Desmond King in the 5th round! The Motown Ballhawk. Could have had Obi and Desmond, how bout that? We drafted Jordan Morgan – remember that name. Des shined in PS. Eddie Jackson looked drunk on that Hooper 40 yarder (Fuller is a brutal tackler in the open field also).

    We could have filled safety in the draft and spent dollars on CBs. Demps was there to hold hands for the kids. In a totally football sense. Two young guys drafted together would be something, give them an extra bond.

    Or ….you draft the best OT on the board in two. Leno goes down, what then? Season over. Memories of Omelette, World Wide Webb, a long list of goons I have banished from my mind.

    We could have fixed a lot of shit in this draft, and we didn’t.

    • Corporal Clott

      I am afraid to acknowledge the truth of your post Irish. It’s akin to acknowledging British agents signed the treaty of Paris on the colonists behalf.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I don’t watch amateur football, but they must have seen something in Jackson. I only watched the highlight reels of the top 5 or 6 safeties. Budda or Des King looked like they could have helped us. We’ll see.

        • I’m not gonna sell Jackson down the river yet, because I don’t know if Fangio would’ve used Buddha like he should be used.

          But we def could’ve drafted an absolute need instead of drafting a 3rd TE

    • willbest

      Miller will be in IR before the bye.

      • leftcoastdave

        And Shaheen is being brought along slow with blocking assignments (keeping him cloaked?) to learn him up to the NFL level. We will not need to wait three years to revisit that pick, IMHO.

      • Yeah, but we still have Sims, Brown and Braukner

        • willbest

          I thought we ditched Harvard, is he on the PS now?

          • Well, at the time of the draft we still had Braukner, but either way, a 3rd TE isn’t exactly a deal breaker and def not worth more than a starter

    • Shaheen in my mind was by far the biggest reach in this draft.
      I was high on Buddha in the 2nd. Lots of other defenders still there like you said.

      But instead, we draft a 3rd TE who’s relegated to learning how to block. Very nice.

      That’s not even to say what WRs were still on the board in the 2nd and beyond.

    • SC Dave

      Pabe wanted his Brees, Sproles, and Graham.

      According to Jeff and AD, a coulle halves against guys no longer in the league means he hit on his Brees.

      Cohen is already being compared all over to Sproles.

      So maybe Shaheen is the Graham.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    haha, i love it. Irish, breaks down his opinions on the draft with specific examples and gets the Nigerian Google. Comic genius.

    • King of DBB

      Look at those big milkys, maaan.

      • Bender McLugh

        I’m now convinced this is MB

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Rewatched the D yesterday:

    Willie Young, one of my favorites from several years ago, is old and stiff and lacks the aggression needed off of the edge to threaten the QB. He doesn’t bull rush and now lacks the athleticism to do anything else which is why he got 10 snaps or so. Fuck.

    Acho is actually more dangerous of a player at this point from the tape.

    Acho.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, I noticed the same about WY97. Unfortunate. He was my favorite Bear the last few years.

      Hope he can rebound but Father Time remains undefeated.

      • King of DBB

        Old Stiff Cucks.

    • As long as Acho doesn’t have to cover, he’s rather explosive.

      But when he has to play the pass, it can get ugly.

      Maybe he improved on that finally.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        He looks way better than Young which is sad.

        • The other thing is that Young was originally a Schwartz wide-9 DE.

          His strength was never to be on his feet. Maybe it’s caught up.

    • Corporal Clott

      Yonny, how many times have you posted this? Lol

  • That Guy

    Jeff still needs a haircut.

  • BearDown100393

    “Dumbest tweet”
    Lol

    • King of DBB

      Jeff, like, does not want to break his narrative, maaaan.

    • leftcoastdave

      Glass house?

      • Corporal Clott

        Hahaha

    • Sactowns#1

      Seriously. His love for Gomer and hate for Giraffe Boy is bordering on the comical.

      • SC Dave

        By comical, you mean pathetic?

  • King of DBB

    Screw your Ten Things, Brad Biggs. The legend that is Adam Jahns now showcases his Fourteen Things in the Sun-Times. And most of them are interesting.

    Hey maaaaan, Biggsy can eat the weight of 26 Adam Jahns in Pot Stickers over the course of a game. They installed, like, a Pot Sticker hose in the press booth for Biggsy. Can Jahns say they put a hose in for him? No maaaan, they cannot.

    • Corporal Clott

      Smh. You gotta find a new shtick GP, you’re killin me.

  • leftcoastdave

    What is being missed:

    Everybody was pleased as punch at the S position and grousing about the CB play, but they came up fine on Sunday and one blown coverage and missed tackle(s) by Demps cost the game. Go figger. The good CB play on Sunday was unexpected and a very bright spot indeed.

    The D line play was great. Who was grousing about that after cutting Jaye Howard? And without Bullard because of his butt. When he gets back starting, Hicks and Goldman will get more blows and the entire D will go up another notch. Good play from Unrein, but did not see as much of RRH as I expected.

  • King of DBB

    Cris Carter calls out All-Day, the switch hitter, on ESPN and says he is the 3rd best back on the Saints and should STFU about his carries and just be happy he’s still playing.

    • Bender McLugh

      nevermind it’s only GP……

  • CanadaBear

    FFS, if this continues Jeff should go after Kleenex as a sponsor.

  • King of DBB

    Maaan, we are already getting murdered by our GM bot.

    http://bgr.com/2017/09/11/sex-robot-hack-security-cyborg/

    • Corporal Clott

      Hahaha. If they look like her, who the fack cares?

      • leftcoastdave

        Not sure they should have teeth.

        • Corporal Clott

          It’s disturbing to realize where you’re going with this dave. I was thinking more on the line with cooking and laundry, wink wink.

          • leftcoastdave

            You do know Lorena Bobbit’s ex got a job with Snap on Tools, don’t you?

          • Corporal Clott

            I hate to break this to you but that was fake news. He he

  • CanadaBear

    Don’t know what Payton said to Peterson but it was a conversation killer.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/adrian-peterson-sideline-argument-sean-payton-quiet-saints-debut-011635577.html

    • willbest

      AP forgot that he doesn’t get to speak to the HC like that when he no longer averaged 4.9 YPC.

      Also, looks like Minny found themselves a RB. Cook had himself a game.

      Oh and Al… Stefon Diggs 7 for 93 and a pair of TDs… but I suppose when Bradford goes All-Madden you are going to see that sort of thing.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes. Diggs had a nice game.

        But that Saints defense is reminiscent of the Bears recent squads.

        Cook was on my FF bench this week.

        That will change.

      • Cooks is no surprise to me. Liked his college tape. Thought he or Hunt would become a thing this season.

        I still think MIxon is the better HB, but he’s stuck in a 3 HB committee.

        Fournett should do OK if Bortles isn’t Bortles.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Two carries to start the game and then, basically, “Good night A.P.”

      • CanadaBear

        I hope it ends badly for AP. Not injury-wise, of course, just loss of speed and with his style of running he will take a pounding. I’m OK with that!

        • Scharfinator

          If he gets in an accident where a tree branch smashes his legs repeatedly until they break, I think it would be just desserts.

          • CanadaBear

            It would be nice if his scrotum was bleeding, too!

    • The Aints LOST cause they tried running it too much.
      Usu, I’m all for pounding the rock, but when you have 2 over the hill RBs and one unproven rook while Drew Brees is ur QB, maybe running it 2 yds per clip is not the way to attack

  • Corporal Clott
    • CanadaBear

      They went DOWN two spots in the NFL.com poll. SMH.

  • Corporal Clott

    Shouldn’t our #1 need be “Reciever’s” as in the plural?

    • willbest

      I am the last person that should be doing this, but don’t leave me in suspense, what of the receiver’s possessions do we need, and why do we need more than one?

    • CanadaBear

      Indeed! Unless the only route Gentry knows is the go route, I’m guessing he’s moving up this week.

      • willbest

        What is his 40? We need somebody running that on every play.

        • CanadaBear

          His predraft, pro-day workout at Wyoming further buoyed those hopes, as his speed (4.46 seconds in the 40-yard dash), strength (19 bench-press reps) and hops (38-inch vertical leap) pointed toward being drafted.

          • 4.46. Wow. I’m a little less racist today!

            Didn’t think he had that type of speed.

          • Corporal Clott

            Well…he was naked and in a wind tunnel at the time.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Need 2. Pass Rusher

    Bears have Leonard Floyd. ”

    Except when he spends most of the day in coverage.

    • leftcoastdave

      Nice change up look for the QB. Did it work, and outweigh his rush threat? Or will this twist be seen more and further changed up?

      But for one play, the D was great. (If the dog hadn’t stopped to lift his leg, he would have caught that rabbit.)

    • Maybe the plan was to drop Floyd to cut off those mid-range passes, yeah know, the one’s that KILLED us when they turned into 50+ yd plays cuz no one was around…

  • BearDown100393

    In other words, the Bears would be super good if they added super good players.

    Thanks

    • willbest

      I tend to let that sort of thing go, because in this day and age I am no longer sure what passes for completely obvious.

  • Sahr Gborie

    https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/9/11/16288134/chicago-bears-mike-glennon-atlanta-falcons-fine-john-fox-mitchell-trubisky-week-1-nfl-2017
    “Fine” is how the Bears have operated for years. Always settling for the safe option whether it be a coach or player, always “fine.” Never fully taking the leap and shooting for the stars. There are bountiful examples to point to.

    Sundays game and the Bears teams of recent memory have been just “fine”. The moves Pace made in FA were “fine”. I understand his whole “regretting some moves in FA” but come on: Stephen Gilmore/Brandon Cooks could have done wonders for us.

    I’m tired of being just “fine”. I want to win and I want to win now. I want to take big risks and fail rather than be “fine”

    • AlbertInTucson

      “Stephen Gilmore/Brandon Cooks could have done wonders for us.”

      Dream on.

      Like they’d consider becoming Bears instead of going to the defending champs?

      Plus, Cooks was a trade that cost the Pats a #1 pick.

      Trade for Cooks, no Trubisky.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Money talks. BS Walks. We did not show them the money but look at what we got when we showed it to Glennon?

        • Corporal Clott

          You sound like a pervert in a rain coat. Hee hee

        • Josh Norman said the Bears lowballed him last season.
          Ppl may not believe in Norman, but he’s a HECK of a lot better than the alternatives we brought in.

          I’m assuming Pace lowballed a lot of other top-shelf FAs then it just becomes a self-fulling prophecy.

          No FA wants to come here cuz we’re losers and lack talent; we’re losers and lack talent because Pace doesn’t want to pay for FAs.

          Rinse, wash, repeat.

          • willbest

            Rumor was we were offering the same as the Jags for Bouye. Its just hard to compete with a state with no Income Tax and no winter.

          • It’s hard to compete for FAs when we SUUUCK.

            I’ve refrained this b4, and it’s something I agree with MB on totally, we’re the Brown’s North, and must act accordingly, which means OVERPAYING for FAs cuz otherise, yeah, they’re gonna go to states with cheaper taxes or to teams who don’t suck balls.

            But Pace won’t.

            He’s gonna build this team with Princes, Royals, Wheatons…which is all fine and dandy until dudes like Freeman, Cam, Long go down…

            FAs are as much about inj/depth/competitiveness as the draft.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Basically, EVERYBODY lowballed Norman. He basically fell into Washington’s lap.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Didn’t we offer Gilmore more money than the Pats did.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And Cooks was not a free agent.

    • Johnnywad

      Been a while since the Bears were “fine”.

      Sunday was markedly better than the last few seasons. Not great, but definitely better.

    • Pace simply won’t buy REAL FAs.

      He’s allergic to blue-chip FA talent. He’d rather sign a million Coopers/Prince/JayHowards/Acho/Cruz/Wheaton/Wrights over say, ONE Josh Norman, or ONE TJ Ward or ONE Gimore or ONE Pryor.

      He has the ‘throw multiple shit balls’ see what sticks philo assuming those shit balls will turn into snow flakes mid-air while no Bear gets inj the whole season.

      Until that changes, or he hits on every draft pick (Grasu/White/ anyone?) we’re always going to be thin and mediocre unless Trub goes full Dak/Wilson

      • Scharfinator

        Was Hicks not a FA?

        • Yeah, but so was Tre, McPhee, Antrell Rolle, Royal (see above)

          And his whole stchick of signing cheap gems is self defeating when you eventually have to pay them $12M/yr when they don’t ended up flaming out like most of his FAs.

          Why not just use his masterly scouting eye to sign a sure fire blue-chip right off the bat?

          That’s what I don’t get.

          Many assume he’s just waiting till we’re close. But considering that we now have our franchise QB, the window starts NOW.

          • Scharfinator

            McPhee had some solid production until he destroyed his knee. I can’t argue for the rest of the list. :

          • willbest

            I don’t think anybody expected Tre’s to tear his PCL. Freeman was a beast. He put in a competitive bid on Jeffery. He offered Gilmore a lot of money.

            How many millions do you need to offer a guy to go away from New England?

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Bears vs Bucs Noon
    Dolphins vs Chargers 3pm
    This sunday will be glorious. I will watch a strong rushing attack and decent D at noon and then the QB and passing attack at 3pm that if combined with the Bears running attack would result in a solid playoff contender.
    #mashup

    • Corporal Clott

      Are you going to be sad when the Bears crush Cutty’s nut sac? That day is coming Sur.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        dude you don’t even care about football, just historical conspiracies.

        • Corporal Clott

          It’s history in the making that really turns me on.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Dalvin Cook looked like he was running in fast forward during last night’s game.

    • beninnorcal

      The Vikes didn’t seem to miss AP. AP, on the other hand, looked like a jealous ex.

      • BerwynBomber

        They sure missed AP last year. They had the worst rushing attack in the league in ’16. Hence, spending a high pick on Cook whom many thought was as good as Fournette.

        NOL picking up AP is another sign of atrocious Saints management. AP is all but done but just as troubling is the fact that he has always been a one-dimensional back. Granted, it was a HoF-level dimension but now that he is not much of a runner he can’t really help in pass-catching or pass-blocking.

    • EnderWiggin

      He almost ruined your FF game.

  • 505Bears

    Not sure if this has been asked, but does Cutler lead the Bears to a win if he was in there?

    • CanadaBear

      KInda depends on where he committed his 2-3 TO’s.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        it certainly wouldn’t be in quarters 1 through 3 where not one chance was taken by Glennon or Loggains. Not one truly contested throw executed, etc. (except that beautiful pass to Cohen that was broken up by a great play by the LB and the over the middle route to Thompson)

        Ironically , if you watch the last drive again the Falcons give up the underneath routes the entire drive. The best throw of the drive was the one to Bellamy where he got held just enough out of his break to fuck up the timing.

        • CanadaBear

          As if he never threw any head scratchers! Need I remind you of the throw to the fat guy in Buffalo? Not to mention the strip sacks.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            I watched every QB in the league get strip sacked this week, haha, not everyone but alot of negative plays. you have to remember that I have that stupid gamepass thing from NFL.com
            you have to believe me here, in football, quarterbacks do throw INT’s, they get sacked, they even fumble sometimes.

            18 out of 33 Qb’s threw an INT or multiple INT’s this week.
            11 didn’t even throw a TD!!
            7 fumbled
            etc. it’s football.

          • willbest

            Neither Glennon nor Ryan were strip sacked this week. Unless you were watching old footage of them.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            you guys can keep your pussy loser version of football because I ain’t having it.

          • Corporal Clott
          • SC Dave

            Fine. Don’t let the door hit you on the way out, “fan”.

          • CanadaBear

            And some of them at an exponential rate!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

          • Corporal Clott

            So you’re saying Glennon ain’t half bad?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            yes he ain’t half bad, he is more like 3 quarters bad.

      • Yeah, Vikes Cutler or Bucs Cargo?

        Depends which one would’ve showed up.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      it doesn’t matter 505, when you get to the point where even the media is ok with a professional QB averaging 5.3 yards per pass then it just doesn’t fucking matter. The game plan was shit.

      The Bears (Glennon) were ranked 30th this week in yards per pass avg at 5.3yds.

      Only McCown, Savage and Watson had a lower per pass average. We all know what that low of an average means so it really doesn’t even matter what the coaches, players, fans or writers say. The proof is in the numbers.

      • CanadaBear

        “The game plan was shit.” Except for a dropped pass, this shitty game plan would have brought home a winner.

        • Scharfinator

          It can be both. The D gameplan was clearly quite good – a mental error can be attributed to the only true ball busting play.

          • CanadaBear

            The O game plan was to take the air out of the ball and keep the dirty birds O off the field. It made for a boring game to watch but it was the right plan. No way the Beloved were going to win a track meet.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            5.3yds Avg Canada. that’s a special Olympics track meet.

          • Corporal Clott

            Lol…yup, sadly we see what our minds only let us see. Still, it was a winnable game in spite of the above which is somewhat encouraging.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          There is no doubt that the game could have been won with a TD at the end of the game, on the tail end of a last minute drive with 4 seconds left.
          That’s the spoon fed coach speak that Fox has been spouting for 2 years. If you play not to lose you just fucking lose unless you’re absolutely perfect in every phase.

          • SC Dave

            Totally fucking wrong. All they needed was ONE FUCKING PLAY at the end and they win.

            You say the silliest things sometimes…

    • Corporal Clott

      Meh.. I doubt it since Yonny was all silent night on Glennon not turning the ball over.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        lol, I was watching the game as an observer who expected nothing Trac. I enjoyed the defensive effort, the effort by Cohen, Barth hitting that huge field goal, etc.
        I expect nothing out of this team because our coaches don’t have THIS YEARS team’s best interest at heart. I will watch and be entertained but certainly won’t wish they lose or celebrate our guys failing. I’m actually from Chicago and am a Bears fan, just not one who blindly accepts wrong decisions being made.

        • Corporal Clott

          Hee hee

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    As of this exact moment I will no longer be participating in discussion about the level of QB play and if it’s adequate.
    I will discuss virtually anything else but when you throw for 5.3yds per completion you are playing football like a huge, smelly, hairy vadge.

  • Tortured Bear fan

    “Bellamy is always open!!” it´s all over documented why…….

  • Sactowns#1

    The Bears, and their fans, really need to decide on an identity. It seems management has steered the ship back in to the prevailing defensive winds and this team will live and die by the D. The Bears get one of those dropped second half INT’s and its a different game. Just one forced turnover would have changed the game. The team isn’t going to be built off of the Qb and WR’s. It will be built on the defensive side of the ball so that’s where we should really start concentrating as fans.

    • evantonio

      Well, if it’s up to the fans to decide, I say the Bears should have turnover-creating, no-points allowing D combined with the Hester-Toub Bears specials and a 38-points-a-game Offense.

      • Sactowns#1

        This isn’t baseball where you can spend unlimited amounts of cash to build a super team. You’re going to have to be wise with your resources. I’m not saying lets become the Texans and totally abandon the offense. What I am saying is all this hand wringing over QB is for not if the goal is to build a killer defense.

        • Corporal Clott

          I’ll leave the hand ringing to Jeff. The problem the Bears face is not only do we need the personel on O to compete but then you need a brilliant stratistition calling the game. In other words, we’re pretty much facked.

          • willbest

            We get a new coaching staff next year unless we make the playoffs.

          • Corporal Clott

            Gawd we better.

        • willbest

          The Texans didn’t abandon the offense, they just don’t know what a QB looks like. I am going to laugh if Cutler starts up where he left off in 2015 and the Texas GM has to explain his comment about not even picking up the phone to talk to Bus Cook.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        Or, I say we get super out of the box here and go with none of those choices.
        #Gamesmanship

    • Sahr Gborie

      Pace wants both. Our defense is already in place minus another pass rusher next to Floyd and a decent seconday (not even great. just decent). The offense was supposed to be: White, Jeffery, Meredith, Howard & Cohen. Sad to say, even that offense could not help Glennon

    • Isn’t that what all Bear fans want? Shoot, how many regs pissed and moan when Pace passed on Adams or Thomas this past draft for Trub?

      MANY. LOST. THEIR. MINDS.

      But this means we have to trust Pace drafting and FA pickups, and Fangio coaching.

      I’m not entirely sold on either. Pace had MANY opportunities to get blue-chip talent on the D side, but he consistently goes for Demps over the TJ Wards of the world (and we saw the results).

      Then, we come to Fangio who ‘bends but doesn’t break’ much like Lovie.

      But UNLIKE Lovie, his squads don’t create turnovers, yet alone points on their own.

      Bend don’t break require TOs or else eventually they WILL break somewhere along the line as it did vs ATL, and last yr vs the Pack, Colts, etc…

      For Fox, this has been the plan all along. TOP on Offense. A more efficient redzone attack. Coupled with improved specials and D unit that can somehow cause TOs.

      It’s rather close, except for the TOs. and redzone efficiency.

      If the Bears score one more TD on O, or create ONE TO on D, they beat the defending NFC champs.

      But as with most Fox games…coulda shoulda woulda…

      • CanadaBear

        Fangio looks like a genius with better players. The Bears depth was always questionable and of course it gets tested immediately. If players keep going down, my 5-win prediction might look optimistic.

        • But at SOME point, SOMEBODY is responsible for the lack of talent.

          It’s either Pace whiffing in the draft and FA, or Fangio not coaching them up (or both).

          The general blame has been put on INJ, but for me, that ship has sailed.

          You can only blame INJs for so long.

          I don’t think either Pace or Fangio are horrible. We saw some terrrrible Ds this weekend (oh Saints), but it just seems the Bears as an org can’t get over that hump, and MAYBE that has to do with Fox (the Donkeys could never get over their hump with him, and that’s why they terminated him).

          I still feel like last yr.

          If we’re 0-4, Fire Fox on the spot, promote Fangio as interrim, bring up Trub, and let’s roll.

          Bet we win more games once that happens INJs or not.

          • CanadaBear

            Not out of the realm of possibilities. Pace basically had to replace about 85% of the roster thanks to PE/JA. I wish he was getting better FA’s too but that’s life. You can ignore the injuries but that’s just silly. They have been historically injured the last 2+ years. At some point you would expect some regression to the mean. I’m not saying it’s all bad luck but it’s not all on Pace/Fox/S&C. I’ve been a Bears fan for 55+ years and I don’t remember the Bears getting injured this often over such a short time span. Oh well.

          • SC Dave

            I still question S&C competence.

      • chitownproud85

        “coulda shoulda woulda” is pretty much sums up the Fox Bears since day one. ALMOST…but no.

    • Corporal Clott

      Im not sure it’s practical with all the rule changes in todays game to have that kind of football philosophy anymore.

      If the Bears think they can 1985 it we in heap big trouble and we will be the Cleveland Bears. We’ve got be able to put lots of points on the board via the offense.

  • Sahr Gborie
    • Corporal Clott

      Did they even have to think about it? Lol

      • I was sorta hoping for Boldin this offseason because even him at 80 is still better than all our WRs.

        • Corporal Clott

          Surely someone has an up an comer on their team we can trade for a bag of balls?

          Nevermind, Alford is the next man up.

          http://nfltraderumors.co/bears-expected-sign-wrkr-mario-alford/

          • The thing with WR is that you absolutely need the reps. Unless we’re just thinking of next season already, I can’t think of a WR right now.

            We’d need a WR familiar with Gase/Birdcage scheme.

            Some rumblings about Jarvis Landry from MIA being on the trade block earlier, might be a possibility IF Pace is willing to let go of his precious draft picks.

            But Landry is another slot dude I think.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Jags picked up Max McCaffrey with Allen Robinson went down

      • Corporal Clott

        Is Josh Gordon avaliable or has he been put on a life time ban already?

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          he’s at the bottom of a bottle unfortunately

        • NFL might re-instate him, which would be my wet dream – HOWEVER, I think Browns still own his rights.

          And you know the McCaskeys don’t like trouble even if insanely talented.

          • Corporal Clott

            3 yrs ago I would have said fack no. Now? You betcha!

    • King of DBB

      Hey maaaan, what about Braverman maaaan

  • Corporal Clott

    Hahaha. Jeff talking about giving away a 4th row ticket for the Browns game if Trubinsky doesn’t start.

    Is that a threat or a promise, lol.

  • Corporal Clott

    “Waiting for someone to argue that Freeman’s injury is another reason not to play Trubisky.” Surly Jeff

    Hahahahaha, aah …

    Exactly, you don’t start your backup QB until your starter goes down. Hee hee

  • Ugh. Of course we lose our best defender in Freeman. FUUUUUCK.

    We just can never get rid of the Timus, McMannis and Boggs from our roster….they’re like Bear herpes, just never go away

    • Here we go

      Bears placed ILB Jerrell Freeman on injured reserve with a pectoral injury.

      Freeman also has a concussion. Signed to a three-year, $12 million contract in March 2016, Freeman was an every-down player last season, though he did miss time with a PED
      suspension. He was slated for the same duties this year. The Chicago Tribune expects 2016 fourth-rounder Nick Kwiatkoski to see the biggest uptick in playing time. Freeman’s loss thins what could be an underrated defense in 2017. – Roto

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        We. Are. Fucked.

        • Your fav white chocalate treat!

          And if Tre goes down, our ILBs will be Kwiat and Christian Jones!

          Fear the ivory and ebony!

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            Freeman and Hicks are the heart of that D. Without Freeman you’re going to see teams gash us in the gash.

          • SC Dave

            We’ll see

      • Johnnywad

        That fucks everything.

  • Meh. If we recall, Stephen Hill was graded higher than Alshon in same draft. Beggars can’t be choosers I guess

    Free agent WR Stephen Hill worked out for the Bills.

    It’s the first we’ve heard of Hill since last October, whenhe was handed a two-game suspension. The 2012 second-round washout hasn’t appeared in a game since 2013. – Roto

    • Corporal Clott

      Another reason WR’s that aren’t named Julio Jones shouldnt be picked high in the draft. There’s prolly more busts at WR in the 1st round than almost any other position. As a Bears fan, it sure seems that way anyhow.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    The Bears offensive line was great Sunday.”

    Except when they needed to be on 4th and goal.

    • willbest

      You are falling into the one cock sucked trap.

      • AlbertInTucson

        And Whitehair was certainly not “great”.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          Whitehair completely gave up on his block on Cohen’s huge run. The only reason why it wasn’t a gain of 0 was because of the cut back and reversal of field. Then he botched the snaps and the penalties. Brutal.

  • Jean Francois released after only 1 game. Da Fook?

    Isn’t he pretty good?

    Any takers? Can always add depth to Dline, and might give us some intel on those douches

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      don’t we have enough french guys on our roster.

  • CanadaBear

    Anderson back on the 53 with Freeman to IR. Gentry up, White to IR.

    • Surprised it was Anderson and not Christian Jones, but maybe they’re thinking more specials for now.

      We were down to Wright, Thompson and Bellamy last game. It’s amazing we even had a chance towards the end, so curios to see if Gentry gets looks.

      • CanadaBear

        Jones is already on the 53. I think Gentry gets lots of looks. No reason not to feed him if he’s productive. Other than Wright, it’s not like he has to defer to the other 2 guys.

        • Ah, Ok. that makes more sense since Christian also plays some OLB.

          It’s been Christian, Anderson, Timu for too long anyways.

          • Bender McLugh

            Any trade possibilities for ILB stud?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Might as well try and find a Unicorn.

          • Bender McLugh

            Unfortunately. Kwiat is getting better at least, not enough

          • It’s too early for trades. Usu teams only trade once they’re season is cooked, albeit, the NYJ, Colts and Browns aren’t exactly hiding their tanking, so they may be open to some trade talk.

            And for those lamenting Foster, he’s already on IR I think, which goes well with his bum shoulders.

      • madscout12

        Bellamy is better than people think. Christ if that guy could catch constantly, he’d be a monster.

    • Bender McLugh

      Gentry is a great Bear last name

      • CanadaBear

        I would be thrilled if Tanner was as successful as Dennis.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Lord, we can only HOPE he is even HALF as valuable.

          • AlbertInTucson

            They would line him up at receiver, run him out of the backfield and he led the lead in kick-off returns in 1986.

            He had 3 career kick-off returns for TDs, including 1 in ’85.

          • CanadaBear

            How many times did he take the delayed handoff on 3rd and long? And usually picked it up.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Plenty. 5 career rushing TD, too.

          • evantonio

            He had lots more than that when I played as the Bears in Tecmo Bowl.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Dennis Gentry was a big factor on 3rd down for the Bears back in his day.

        #29, I believe.

      • evantonio

        Best return man in Tecmo Bowl.

    • And Waffle furiously bids $50 on Tanner off the waiver wires…

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        how many points does Tanner get per 5.3yd reception?

  • AlbertInTucson

    David Johnson to IR.

    Good night, Cardinals.

    • And Chris Johnson re-signed, making it a true clusterfack at HB in Zona with Kerwin and that other dude.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Ellington, I believe…?

        • Yes. They were trying to make him their feature back before David Johnson, but his body couldn’t hold up. but he’s an excellent 3rd down back.

          It’s going to be committee over there, methinks. Plus, it’s not like their Oline was blowing ppl up or Palmer was dissecting Ds.

          Zona might finish in last place as crazy as that sounds.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And the Cardinals had protection problems even BEFORE DJ went down.

    • Sactowns#1

      So glad I kept him in my keeper league. Smh.

      • AlbertInTucson

        What can you do?

        If I’d gotten the #1 pick in my league, I’d be singin’ the blues right now, too.

    • willbest

      Looks like Arians will be looking for work next year while we search for our new HC

  • AlbertInTucson

    Tampa and Jacksonville WILL host their NFL games this weekend.

    • Corporal Clott

      Show me da Monay baby!!!

    • Isn’t it almost better we play in TB?

      Seems like lots of Bear fans show up to those FL games.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I heard what I thought was a decent idea today regarding the Thursday games.

    Kill them and do a double header EVERY Monday.

    My exception/addition: Keep the Thanksgiving Day games and give everybody who plays on Thanksgiving their bye the Sunday before.

    I’d let them keep the Thursday opener, too.

    • That’s a good idea actually. LOVE those double-header MNF games.

      Move one of them back to one of the big networks (CBS, ABC, NBC, Fox).

      I would say though maybe 3 Thurs games. Def the thanksgiving. Maybe one the first week.

      And maybe one later, like the London/Mex one which the league will not eradicate anyways.

  • Piggy-backing off the question if there’s any ILBs worth a peso. The landscape is not pretty

    http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2017ILB.php

    Only one remotely interesting is Roloando McClain who I don’t even know if retired or available. Plus, we all know the Bears stay away from questionable characters regardless of talent.

    Demacyo Ryans was once a thing.

    I was hoping to bring in Aurthur Brown in the PS, but I see SEA picked up him up, but who knows.

    Other than that, a bunch of busted up has-beens mostly.

    I guess Kwiat and Jones it is.

    • And as for WR…Dorrial Green-Beckham 6’5 only 24…and the immortal Marquis Wilson…Joe Anderson still around?

      http://walterfootball.com/freeagents2017WR.php

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        DGB turned out to be quite a piece of work….and by work I mean wet dogshit.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      my ears perked up when I saw Arthur Brown floating around earlier in the year.

      • Yeah, I thought we should’ve def brought him in. The fact SEA did picked him up tells me we should’ve, but hey, Pace believes INJs never strike the Bears.

        There’s usu good vet ILBs available at the start of FA season, but by this time, it’s just ugly.

        I mean, didn’t even know Dqwell Jackson was still out there.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Waiting for someone to argue that Freeman’s injury is another reason not to play Trubisky.”

    He said, trying to solicit someone.

    • willbest

      Is it wrong that Jeff’s twitter rants are now in my top 3 reason for sitting Trubisky?

  • willbest

    Honestly if hicks is going to play like that we are more in need of ILB than anything else. I said the problem with Demps in addition to the age was he played on a team with an amazing pass rush.
    It’s really because we all expect Floyd to get concussed and Young got old that we are even considering it.

    Presumably we get cam back next year. He is at least a WR2 until he isn’t. WR is going to be a need but given how the Bears are incapable of having a sane, healthy, quality reciever (its in the bylaws) I don’t know what can be done about it.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      if you went to those meetings and drank yak’s blood and sacrificed a virgin, maybe we would not be in this situation. All your fault will!!!

      • Corporal Clott

        Back in the day, I made it my life’s work to rescue as many virgins from sacrifice that was humanly possible. Sigh….the nights were just never long enough.

      • No doubt Lady Gaga was playing while Hillary was high priestess.

        • Corporal Clott

          The visual of that is too hideous to bare. I will have nightmares over this.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            i could be worse.

          • Corporal Clott

            You think hillary is the licker or the lickee?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            wow, i am really worried about your mental health. that is dark and disturbing.

          • Corporal Clott

            Lol.

    • If Pace signs some blue-chip FAs for once, even if it’s just two, that will go a long way to insuring us against INJs again.

      Let’s say Pryor has a decent yr and hits FA. Sign him. Have Cam. Draft someone. That way Wright doesn’t have to be the #1 option in a game ever again.

      Same at CB or S.

      Also, it’s not given Cam will return or be the same. His knee went the wrong way and may have nerve damage.
      ILB looked like a strength, but not both Tre and Freeman are looking IFFY, so add ILB to the list. Long has looked done for over a yr. Add OG/OC to the list depending on what they want WH to be.

      We still need a quality OT as Irish rightfully points out.

      And a quality NT cuz Goldman is also an INJ waiting to happen.

      Pace has his work cut out for him esp if he keeps bargaining hunting cheap FAs coming off injuries.

    • madscout12

      Never ever can have too many young pass rushers. Never.

      I’d love to watch games of “who gets the QB first” on Sundays.

  • beninnorcal

    Freeman to IR? What in the fuck?! When do the Bears get a break on key injuries? I keep thinking there’s no way we could be as injured as the previous year, yet here we go again.

    • Corporal Clott

      The Cubs stole what little MOJO Chicago had left?

  • Sactowns#1

    And the QB that we should have drafted will be starting this weekend. Even with a shitshow of an offense I bet he still does better than any Gomer outing, that’s if Gomer even sees the field this season.

    • madscout12

      Which one is that? The one the Browns drafted or the guy who won a lot of games in College cause he played with bawlers, but can’t hit the broad side of a Buick?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Watson was 12 of 23 for 102 with 1 TD, 1 INT and 2 runs for 16 yards. He had another INT wiped out by a penalty and he also lost a fumble.

        That was good for under 4.5 per attempt and, despite his mobility, he took 4 sacks in the half.

        Maybe he WILL be good, but he didn’t walk on water Sunday and he couldn’t beat out Tom Savage in preseason.

    • Watson is already limping around and he’s only played one half.

      #RG3.2

  • BearDown100393

    ” Nick Kwiatkoski will replace Freeman in the starting lineup Sunday against the Buccaneers.” – Biggs

    Why bother. Just sign a pylon at league minimum.

  • madscout12

    Had a thought that Pacebot is behind not playing Trubs. My theory is that he never wants to admit a sunk cost. Take the Hroniss bonus BS this offseason/preseason. We let Whitehair be rusty in the first game because we had to find out if a oft injured guy (again) could out play our borderline PB center. And we played that borderline PB center at G so that he could be replaced and moved to C midseason by our other oft injured G.

    Hroniss is a sunk cost, and Glennon is a sunk cost. But hey, if he keeps having no pick losses, then we’ll just ship him for a 3rd next year. Cause there aren’t enough 16M backups.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      never going to get a 3rd for Glennon.

      • madscout12

        Not going to get anything. The league will know we’ll just cut him. Pacebot doesn’t bluff. He calculates.

    • Wheaton, Royal, McPhee, Freeman, Houston are sunk costs too.

      For a “frugal” GM, he sure does waste a lot.

      • madscout12

        Wheaton and McPhee could see the field and produce this year. Houston was Emery’s, but yeah, would have liked to see us move on from him this year early. Agreed on Royal, but we didn’t count on him. We probably just cut a UDFA to keep him on the roster…so oh well.

        • The thing is, Pace could’ve cut Houston this yr and saved $6M in cap, which would’ve been nice for, um, depth in FA.

          Let’s not forget Rolle either.

          • madscout12

            Yeah, which is why it doesn’t make sense that we didn’t cut Houston at the beginning of the season. Maybe Pace though he could get something for him? Pace has shown to sign key players on team favorable deals, minus the Leno deal which I don’t think was a good move at all. He signs low cost/commitment FA and tries to replace them with draft picks.

            Houston doesn’t fit that mantra, so I was surprised he wasn’t gone early.

          • He also threw Long a boat load of $, then Long got inj and is still inj a yr later, and in IMO, is a prime candidate to get cut going forward.

            This is what happens when a GM signs a bunch of JAGs.

            His only real home run thus far in FA has been Hicks.

            But if Trub pans out, which I think he will, then I suppose that makes up for a lot of crappy moves.

          • madscout12

            Ted Thompson is lauded because he landed Vadgers. We all know how good the rest of that team is. The QB is what matters.

            I don’t mind prove it deals when we’re rebuilding. He’s turned over the roster completely in 3 years. His drafts have overall been good. There is a young core here. We’re just missing a star, which hopefully is Trubs and Floyd. And a WR corps.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Be just a LITTLE more patient, #PlayTheKid folks.

    The way the injury mojo is going for the Bears, Glennon will probably be going down any second.

  • BerwynBomber

    After W1 the top five QBR ratings are:

    1. Bradford
    2. Smith
    3. Ryan
    4. Siemian
    5. R-berger

    The top five in PR are:

    1. Smith
    2. Bradford
    3. Goff
    4. Ryan
    5. Carr

    Of course we all know these chumps are merely keeping the seat warm until Cutty laces them up.

    Btw, Glennon is 24th in QBR and 15th in PR.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Otis Wilson‏Verified account
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    I will be signing TONIGHT at 7pm @volumesbooks, 1474 N. Milwaukee Ave! Come meet me and grab a copy of the new book! #ChicagoBears #Chicago
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    • AlbertInTucson

      It’ll be tough to out-do the Colts who may well need a Darnold themselves.

  • Irish Sweetness

    With Freeman on IR … does that mean ……. Kwiat-time ?

    Any more of these and we are most definitely in the Darnold Derby.

    • ButtonShoes

      One can hope. Darnold is who I wanted the Bears to draft at QB.

  • PARSEVEN

    Fox made sure to mention the Bears were in a one-score game, perhaps to justify Glennon, the game plan, his approach, all of it. The defense will make a lot of these games possible. Glennon will make most of them impossible to win. I posted this comment already on a different post but truly feel we need to give Mitch a chance to see what he can do.

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