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Audibles From the Long Snapper: Mitch, Mitch, Mitch & More!

| October 3rd, 2017

A Note on Mike Glennon

Despite the belief of many, I never had a dislike for Mike Glennon the person. I simply had no faith in Mike Glennon, NFL quarterback. And I am not in the business of sucking up to the Chicago Bears organization around here. They got their Glennon evaluation horribly wrong and I said that from the moment they inked the deal. Said it when many others were rushing to give them the benefit of the doubt. But I’m elated to never write about him again.


Tweet of Monday

There were several players in the defensive meeting rooms comparing what they saw from Trubisky in practice to what they were seeing from Glennon in games. They were incredulous at times. Didn’t add up. That’s how you lose a locker room.

Read all of Adam Jahns’ thoughts on the decision to start Trubisky HERE.


Around the League Thoughts

Watched a lot of football Sunday. Some thoughts:

  • Pats have allowed 42, 20, 33, 33 in four games. How did Belichick let this defense get so downright awful? Couldn’t they use Chandler Jones? Or Akiem Hicks? In the same way front offices are hurting the careers of Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees, it’s remarkable how Tom Brady has bailed out Belichick’s evaluative missteps. Pats should probably have one win at this point.
  • There was a point during Houston v. Tennessee where I thought the NFL was changing before my eyes. Watson and Mariota were essentially playing a college game and damn was it exciting. Then Mariota got hurt. Why? Because the style they were playing is not sustainable in this league.
  • George Godsey and Bill O’Brien called a masterpiece for Deshaun Watson, catering the offensive game plan to what he does well. What I loved is how they used Watson’s running ability primarily down around the goal line, not out in the open field. Shorter runs in smaller spaces will limit the explosion in the hits he takes.
  • In a year it was thought the Jets would go 0-16 and draft their quarterback of the future, it’s a bit ironic that the Giants may scoop them and find Eli’s replacement.
  • I know why the Giants offense stinks. But why can’t they cover anybody?
  • Nick Folk can’t be the Bucs kicker next weekend. He almost single-footedly cost Tampa an easy win Sunday, leaving a touchdown of easy kicks on the table with dead shanks. If I were Tampa, I’d call the Niners and offer a mid-round draft pick for Robbie Gould. Bucs can win the NFC South. Why risk that with a shaky kicker?
  • Dallas can’t play defense.
  • Baltimore can’t play offense.
  • Not sure there’s ever been less athleticism on display at the quarterback position than Carson Palmer v. Brian Hoyer.

  • It’s remarkable how many good teams have NO shot when their backup QB is forced into action. Matt Cassel and EJ Manuel were completely useless Sunday.
  • Everybody loves Adam Gase. I don’t. His offense is just too reliant on the bubble screen game. Feels like he spends all his time designing pass plays meant to gain 8 yards.
  • Is Denver the best defense in the league? Probably. But don’t sleep on Buffalo. Sean McDermott has turned that unit around overnight.

Kyle Long For Puerto Rico Relief


Otis Wilson v. Ditka?

From Wilson and Chet Coppock on something called ThePostGame:

If you tell me you’ve heard this story, you’re conning me. In 1987, two years after the Bears left the New England Patriots crushed and red-faced in Super Bowl XX, Wilson pulled up lame after he was leg whipped by a rival Green Bay Packer at Lambeau Field.

Otis had to give up the last four weeks of the regular-season schedule (the Bears finished 11–4), so Ditka inserted Ron Rivera in the “Sam” or strongside linebacker spot. Rivera, a solid player and stand-up guy out of Cal, was a good football player — just that; no more, no less. Ron would tell you he was never in Otis’s league.

So, naturally, Big O expected that after his injury healed, Ditka would follow his edict that “No player loses his job due to injury” and return him to the starting lineup as the Bears got ready to begin what was a one-game playoff  nightmare vs. the Washington Redskins. Now, during a previous run-in, Wilson had let Ditka have it when he asked the boss in a voice as unyielding as iron, “Why don’t you treat me like a man?” We should also note that Wilson was a disciple of Buddy Ryan, the architect of the Bears monstrous 46 defense.

O will also tell you without hesitation that if Ryan had been the Bears head coach during the 1980s the Bears would have won multiple Super Bowl titles. You can comfortably assume that Wilson thought the crusty Ryan was really his “unofficial” head coach. So, we come to the days before the Bears are to meet the Skins, and Wilson went up to Ditka’s office in Halas Hall to confront the coach about his refusal to return him to the starting lineup.

Ditka heard Wilson out, then responded in blasé fashion that he liked the way thing were going, meaning, in Ditka-speak: Rivera stays. You’re his caddy.

Wilson, justified in taking the demotion personally, told Ditka he could see “what things are all about” or in other words, that Ditka was playing favorites by going with Rivera.

Wilson then spouted, “Bullshit. I’m going back on that field whether you like it or not.”

Ditka then told Wilson to get the hell out of his office while threatening to “blackball” Big O.

By now, these two knockout artists were jaw to jaw. Otis claims the two guys were ready to slug it out. Mike’s secretary, the squeamish type, was so startled by the confrontation that she began to dial the Lake Forest Police. Truthfully, I would have paid $500 to see O and a still fairly young Mike Ditka slap leather for 12 rounds — or less. Wait! Who am I kidding? Otis would have ended the bout 30 seconds after the referee tossed out instructions about “rabbit punches” and “neutral corners.”

Wilson has compiled his Bears adventures into a poorly-titled book, If These Walls Could Talk. Buy this book HERE.


Links!

  • “What we know is the sound of a war zone. We know the sound of bullets flying so fast you might think it’s a rusted and ragged zipper.” The Sun-Times says if we continue to do nothing about guns, our teams are fraudulent. They’re right.
  • From Albert Breer at SI: “What’s remarkable about the Bears’ decision to turn to first-round pick Mitch Trubisky, just four games into his rookie season, isn’t that Mike Glennon left the door ajar for this to happen. It’s that Trubisky was in a position to kick it in.”
  • Greg Gabriel, a frequent sparring partner on Twitter, makes the case (later in this piece) for the Bears promoting Mark Sanchez to backup quarterback. I have advocated the same once this move to Trubisky became official. Simply don’t see what role Glennon serves backing up Trubisky.
  • My buddy Rich Cohen in the New York Times: “I don’t know how closely Mr. Trump even follows baseball, but if he does, he’s probably a Yankees fan — because that franchise, with its pinstripes and nonstop talk of winning, is Donald Trump all over. It’s good for fans but bad for humans, as it teaches the wrong lessons. What we want for a president is a person who grew up in the bleachers of Wrigley Field, learning humility and loss, the fleeting nature of glory.”
  • Morrissey in the Sun-Times makes the same tired argument, while saluting the decision to sign Trubisky: “It would have been better if Trubisky had spent the season on the sidelines, watching and learning. The Bears are in a rebuild, after all.” (1) There are no football rebuilds. There are teams with QBs and teams without them. (2) Trubisky does not need time on the bench. He needs time on the field. And a lot of it.

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  • SC Dave

    The Ditka Legend continues to tarnish. Call me heartbroken.

    • CanadaBear

      And shocked! I’ll give Ditka credit for turning around the culture of the team and winning the SB. Other than that, no NFL HC has gotten more undeserved credit.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I got five bucks on the Coach.

  • Sahr Gborie

    He didn’t just want to help them he wanted to beat them….now we know why the defense was asking for a change

  • Johnnywad

    Boy, don’t know about “there are no football rebuilds”.

    If you completely churn a roster in two seasons with all new coaches and a new GM, isn’t that a rebuild? Or at least a shot at one?

    And teams with QBs and teams without them? Ask Drew Brees about that.

    • SC Dave

      Or Dan Marino, or Dan Fouts, or Brett Favre, or…

    • willbest

      You can’t look at a football player and say this guy is going to be a cornerstone of this team because he might get injured and then the whole thing collapses. Football is all current year

  • SC Dave

    Jeff, you may want to fix the typo in “our teams are fraudulent”…

    • Scharfinator

      I admit I was confused until I clicked the link.

    • Adam Truelove

      Yeah, I almost didn’t read the article because I thought it was trying to relate the shooting to football.

  • BerwynBomber

    “In the same way front offices are hurting the careers of Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees, it’s remarkable how Tom Brady has bailed out Belichick’s evaluative missteps. Pats should probably have one win at this point.”

    But with Rodgers and Brees it has been a career long thing. With Brady it’s four games of a season. Big difference. To say the least.

    Plus, aren’t both Hightower and Ninkovich injured? I suspect NE’s D will eventually come around. If Belichick’s teams can be said to have a bad month, it is almost always September.

    But back to half your point. Yes, Brady is playing remarkably well. And so far has been carrying his team a’la what we usually see from Brees and Rodgers. He continues to be the gold standard by which all other QBs should be measured.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hightower is week to week and Ninkovich retired.

      • BerwynBomber

        Thanks. Didn’t know that about Ninkovich. Dude was a baller. One of those classic “who the hell is this guy?” NE players.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And definitely a tough man to replace, even for Belicheat.

  • BerwynBomber

    “What we want for a president is a person who grew up in the bleachers of Wrigley Field, learning humility and loss, the fleeting nature of glory.”

    So drunk, spoiled and with a privileged upbringing? We had that guy not too long ago. His initials were GWB.

    And I hate to break it to you but the Cubbies haven’t been a “little engine that could” team for roughly three decades. They’ve been basically printing money, a’la the Yankees, Red Sox and Dodgers since the 90s.

    And before you project your humble liberalism upon them, you should probably also know that the Ricketts family were huge donors to Trump’s presidential campaign. As Donny himself would re-emphasize, huge.

    • CanadaBear

      Yeah, that was a stretch and I love the Cubs!

      • BerwynBomber

        It was. And btw, aren’t the Yankees a franchise that is building it’s farm system these days? They don’t see like they are drunkenly spending on free agency like they used to.

        My impression at least.

        • CanadaBear

          I really don’t follow the Yanks but I did see part of a game in the last few weeks and was surprised by how few players I knew. I really hope they turn it around and start going downhill again. I’ve hated the Yankees since I was a kid (even though I secretly wished the Cubs could be like them).

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I don’t think that quote was meant to be associated with the Cubs as an organization, because as you point out it is a business worried focused on money, but more a fan of the Cubs. And I am only assuming here, since I am not a Cub fan, Cub fans had to learn to deal with years and years of loss, as the front office mismanaged the club. Hence a fan would more easily be able to empathize with people going through hardships, unlike as he says a Yanks fan that are used to winning and expect winning. Winning consistently is a new concept for Cub fans, and fans still have that ‘Wait for next year’ mentality, because they half expect the wheels to come off and things to go wrong.

      • CanadaBear

        You may not be a Cubs fan but being a Bears fan isn’t all THAT much different. Trust me!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          one of the reasons I am not a Cubs fan. Rooting for that many losing organizations would be awful.

          • SC Dave

            One is more than enough.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah but if you change favorite teams there’s a name for that. I’m nothing if not loyal. Been a fan of both teams since the late 50’s.

      • BerwynBomber

        Oh, I knew what he was getting at. I just felt like exposing the other side.

  • CanadaBear

    Good on Kyle! I’ve seen a bunch of other players doing the same thing.

  • CanadaBear

    I know most of you guys dislike Peter King but this quote made me laugh, esp since it’s about the Chargers.

    8. “Sixteen away-game season!” said a voice in the Chargers’ locker room after L.A. lost again in a StubHub Center full of visitors. (It’s just now hitting me that this is playing out week after week in a stadium sponsored by a ticket resale marketplace. So perfect.)

  • AlbertInTucson

    ” ‘O’ will also tell you without hesitation that if Ryan had been the Bears head coach during the 1980s the Bears would have won multiple Super Bowl titles.”

    A combination of 20/20 hindsight and extremely wishful thinking.

    Buddy showed how lacking he was as a head coach in his stops in Philly and in AZ.

    • CanadaBear

      What they really needed was a HC that valued the QB position.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Ditka griping to McMahon about “Why’d you change the play?” after the TD pass in Minny that put them back in the game speaks volumes.

        • Irish Sweetness

          “Why’d you throw it to Willie?” I believe was the question, to which Mac replied, “he was open.”

    • Big Mike

      He didn’t have the same horses in Philly and AZ. The Bears of the 1980’s under performed their talent tremendously. Some horrendous decisions regarding the QB, Ditka with an ax to grind with Buddy Ryan, Buddy Ryan being the miserable SOB that he was.

      • SC Dave

        That roster was *stacked*. How many front 7s have you seen where the “worst players” were equivalent to William Perry and Steve McMichael?

        (I’d argue Mongo was the 4th best guy on that defense, but many people wouldn’t).

        • Big Mike

          It was a team for the ages. Should have been to 2 or 3 SBs and won at least one more

          • BerwynBomber

            Though oddly enough, I felt that way a bit about the Favre/Reggie White Cheese teams. I was worried they might snag two or three, and honestly thought they should have.

            Also, if SEA only wins one with Wilson and that D, I wonder if their fans will one day look back with regret.

          • Big Mike

            Nah, the Bears team was WAY better.

          • SC Dave

            I agree.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I disagree, strongly, that he “Didn’t have the horses.”

        The complaint in Philly was he built the defense but his concept of an offensive game plan was “Randall (Cunningham) go out there and create something.”

        And I watched him take a Cardinal team here in Arizona that was already headed in the right direction under Joe Bugal but idiot owner, Bill Bidwell, fell for the Buddy “You got a winner in town” hype and Ryan promptly came in there an dismantled a top 2 or 3 offense so he could bring in washed up ex-Eagles to play on his defense.

        Head coaching for Buddy was a clear illustration of “The Peter Principle.”

        And this is NOT to say that Ditka didn’t absolutely lose the team after ’85 piss away a golden opportunity for more success in Chicago.

        • Big Mike

          Bears defensive talent > eagles.

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          • AlbertInTucson

            Bears> Eagles. Or anybody else you can name.

            Doesn’t really help Buddy’s case,does it?

            And he was still all thumbs as a HC when it came to offense.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ditka lost the team for sure during the strike. And Sean Payton was the scab.

    • BerwynBomber

      It’s not quite as silly as Hampton’s “we would have won five SBs with Cutler” nonsense, but …

      • SC Dave

        Only the Jay Cutler that told Martz to “fuck off”. The only reason McMahon survived Ditka is that he was willing to do the same.

        Ditka was utterly clueless about QBs. He’d have turned Otto Graham into a loser.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’m betting if you judge them within the context of their eras McMahon was slightly superior to Cutler. But who knows. Both average QBs.

          • SC Dave

            I agree with all that, BB.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The Bears had the defense to

            A) Cleanup McMahon’s messes

            and

            B) Set up the offense well enough to win games behind Steve Fuller.

          • BerwynBomber

            A) Cutler played behind some damn solid D’s the first half of his Bears career (and some incredible STs)

            B) Both McCown and Hoyer arguably played as well as he did at times

            Tons of sides to the comparison prism. I’ll still stick with my McMahon was slightly better argument. But honestly, once you get past Luckman, the ceiling for our QBs has been competent, average starter, of which both McMahon and Cutler qualify.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That’s not a “ceiling”. It’s a low-hanging beam to crack your head against.

          • BerwynBomber

            True. though you could get away with it a little more in McMahon’s era.

            (And again, there’s another side to the prism …)

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hard as coffin nails. No protection for QBs back then. Can you imagine Cutler playing with a lacerated kidney?

          • CanadaBear

            Who cares if they aren’t effective? Your McMahon love is laughable.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And they had McMahon to win games when the defense stayed at home, Al.
            Short memories. 3 … 4 TDs down, the game was never over until it was.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Revisionist history.

            They were down 14 at Tampa in the opener. Part of that comeback win was a pick 6 by Leslie Frazier.

            And that fabled Minnesota game?

            The biggest deficit was 8 points at 17-9.

            There are INTs in that 85 season that are Cutler-esque.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Irish has Waffle-esque views of McMahon.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jim McMahon was not an average QB. Nobody who saw him play could call him average.

            Jared Goff, Osweiler, Wentz, Jim Plunkett, Dave Krieg … these are average QBs. If you’re rating QBs based on stats, then Elway is one of the worst QBs of all time.

  • Sactowns#1

    Question, is Whites career over or do the Bears give him yet another shot next year?

    • BerwynBomber

      If he’s still on his rookie deal — I presume he is — I see no reason why they wouldn’t invite him to camp. But guaranteeing him a roster spot of course would be inane.

      • CanadaBear

        Next year is the last of the guaranteed money. No doubt he will be in camp next year.

        • Sactowns#1

          Oh I don’t doubt he’ll be in camp. Question is, will he get a roster spot?

          • CanadaBear

            That’s why they play the games!!!!!

      • SC Dave

        I suppose I wouldn’t hate seeing him in camp, so long as we’re not wasting first or second team reps on him.

        Those would be much better spent on someone that might actually play.

        Obviously, KW has injury problems, but when he is in, he shows little.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Not to defend him but he has had less than a year of playing time on the field

          • SC Dave

            I know, but I’d rather that whoever we draft, Meredith, or even Bellamy get chances at reps before White.

          • Sahr Gborie

            100% percent agree with you. He will most likely be 2nd or 3rd string unless he goes all out but I doubt it though…you cant live on potential forever

          • leftcoastdave

            Prediction- Bellamy will be the next star receiver for da Bears.

            With Mitchell better able to buy time, Bellamy will have more time to get open and last year he had some nice yacs on the balls he held on to. His hand transplants over the winter have generally been successful and the dude’s got heart.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            As insane as this sounds I agree. Him, more so than the other turds playing wr, will benefit from Trubisky’s accuracy and ability to hit him in stride.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Deonte.

            And why isn’t Victor Cruz back in town?

          • CanadaBear

            Because he’s slow as molasses.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Its over after camp next season if he does not perform. If he shows he has what it takes he will get a roster spot to prove himself – he will have to work hard since he will be up against Cam and whoever the rookie WR will be. But no way they pick up his 5th year option. He will likely get a 3 yr deal that is friendly to the team if he shows he can play

    • He has one year left, and the $$ is fully guaranteed.

      Treat him like Fuller this year: make FA/draft moves like you’re moving on from him, but bring him to camp and let him try to earn a spot. It’s worked out well with Fuller so far.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. But I would say the one big difference between the two (beyond the amount/severity of injuries) is that Fuller flashed early on. Don’t know if White ever flashed.

        • Sahr Gborie

          White never flashed and most likely never will. Wasted draft pick. Very sad. Should have gone with Vic Beasley

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, it sucks. Part of me feels sorry for the kid. But the other part wonders if he would have been all that even if he had remained healthy.

          • Sahr Gborie

            the world may never know

          • leftcoastdave

            With that physique, I wonder about how he got it and if it was peds which led to his being so brittle.

        • SC Dave

          Fuller had 10 PD, 4 picks and 3 forced fumbles his rookie season, and also chipped in with 50 tackles and 14 assists.

          That is a *solid* season; more than a “flash” in my book.

          Edit: https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/F/FullKy00.htm

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I was using the term loosely. Only meant to imply we saw promise (and as you point out, more than promise) from Fuller. Never from White.

            Btw, I’ve remained a staunch advocate for Fuller, even during last year with the injury and questioning by Fangio.

          • SC Dave

            Hopefully, your confidence will prove fully merited and Kyle will go on to a long, productive career at CB for the Chicago Bears.

            We *need* some of these guys to become someone. Most of all, Mitch.

        • Absolutely. I have no hope for White at this point, but there’s no harm in having him on the 90 man roster.

      • AlbertInTucson

        At least it wasn’t the leg, again. Nothing to lose by taking another shot.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yeah, if Kevin turns out to be any good we don’t want to watch that career develop in GB or NE.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    So Trubs is starting. We are all excited, unfortunately I am guessing he will have 2 INTs on Monday night.

    • AlbertInTucson

      So, 1 or 2 less than Glennon would?

    • Sahr Gborie

      so what. growing pains.

    • It’s all part of the plan

      Who knows, we can run the rock, get the TEs involved, etc.
      The mere threat of Trub keeping it on the read option will stop the opposing D from crashing down like a football movie directed by Bruckheimer.

      • Scharfinator

        I think he will have to beat Minny. I’d keep stacking the box against a rookie in his first start.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Hope they do Sharf, he’ll kill them on the playaction-rollouts.

    • I don’t foresee him turning it over much, but this will be his first game.

      Part of the reason of starting him with 11 days instead of 4 is so he can at least have some extra days to build chemistry with the scrubs.

      Also, the Vike’s D is good, but they’re not exotic. They pretty much line-up in base with not many crazy blitzes and coverages, if I remember correctly.

      Though maybe they get a lil more creative vs a rook.

      • CanadaBear

        They gave the Loins all they wanted. Their D is legit.

        • Oh, they’re good, but they’re rather predictable.
          Kinda like the Lovie Bears. It wasn’t about creating confusion or chaos, just about execution.
          They set up that Cover -2 and forced the QB to find the holes and master a 10 play drive.

          That’s kinda how the Vikes are, so Mitch’s patience and accuracy will be tested more than his reading defenses acumen.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s not really a cover 2. Zimmer brought 5 guys a few times but his front 4 was getting it done. Stafford was under pressure all day. Although one thing that does give me hope, the Loins almost had a 100-yd rusher that game for the first time in years.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Jesus, Penis! How about 2 Passing 1 running and 0 interceptions?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        if it is any consolation I still think we win the game.

  • Sahr Gborie

    How do we help MT with our 1st round pick next year: WR/OT to boost the offense or LB/CB to improve the defense?

    • BerwynBomber

      If we truly have a franchise QB, I’m of the belief the first thing you give him are a rock soild D and a OLine.

      But our receiving corps is so bad (and our OLine and D relatively solid), I might lean toward the diva position …

      • Sahr Gborie

        1st rd – OT or WR
        2nd rd WR or OT
        3rd rd – CB/LB
        4 and below – improve the depth of the team

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        have we ever drafted a WR in 1st round that was worth a shit?

        • CanadaBear

          Willie Gault was decent.

          • AlbertInTucson

            But had his best seasons as a Raider.

            Then there was David Terrell, who had one brief shining moment against the 49ers….and that was it.

          • CanadaBear

            I was just looking at Gault’s stats, he had a fair amount of TD’s with the Beloved. He had one year where he only had 1 TD but the other years were 8,7,6,5. Considering the QB’s throwing to him as a Bear and the fact that Ditka was an idiot, that’s not bad. My fave WR with Bears back then was Dennis McKinnon. I loved his attitude. He came to play and he loved to block and hit DB’s.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I thought McKinnon and Dennis Gentry, for that matter, had better hands.

      • It’s all part of the plan

        I’d go D and OL and get two nice vet FA receivers that are true pros. A Garcon type.
        Then draft a raw burner in Rd 4 or 5.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          are there any decent FA WR available next year?

          • willbest

            Obviously the question is who hits FA. But the potential options at the moment are:

            Jeffery, Pryor. Floyd, Gordon, Fitzgerald, Landry. The first doesn’t want to be in Chicago, the last will be 35, and the other 3 all have off field issues. Landry is probably the best option out there, assuming Miami lets him walk.

            Below the fold you have have Davante Adams, Mike Wallace, Sammy Watkins, Eric Decker, Danny Amendola, Kenderall Wright, Jaron Brown, Martavis Bryant.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I don’t see Fitz playing anywhere but AZ.

          • willbest

            I don’t either, just noting who has contracts coming to an end.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He is the Cardinal Franchise’s “Walter Payton”.

            They re-upped him for this year.

            I figure they do the same thing next year if he wants to play again.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Martavis!

          • willbest

            Haven’t we already been burned by 1 steeler cast off? Everybody looks good when they line up on the opposite side from Antonio Brown.

        • Typically, ONE studly WR is available in FA every offseason. But I doubt Pace throws $ at that.

          Yours is the most likely scenario. He’ll likely buy a Demps-level WR and focus on the lines.

        • willbest

          Garcon is going to be like 33 next year. You need to go younger at WR.

          • Good young WRs cost $.

            And we all know Pace is a cheap ass.

          • willbest

            I also didn’t see Garcon on the FA list. Landry is who we should be targeting. I heard miami hates him for some reason.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Garcon JUST signed this year with SF.

          • Yup. I brought him up. Since I watch some foreskins game with my bud, I liked him and Baker from the FA crop this season.

            But naturally Pace decided Cruz, Wright and Wheaton were somehow better.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Mitch will make whoever we have look good. This is what great QBs do.

            Just make sure the running game works, it’s draft a running back that’s important. We have Howard/Cohen, now let’s a get another. And a RT. Prepare for the worst

          • It’s all part of the plan

            A Garcon type: a vet receiver who still has game and is not a complete cancer to a team.

          • CanadaBear

            He’s still a feisty bastard. Of course, he is from Haiti! He has that cornered badger thing going on just like Weems did for the Bears. Not that Weems was in any way close to Garçon as a WR.

      • willbest

        I suppose it depends on if Goldman makes it through the season. If he doesn’t then I look at my D-line, if he does I am looking for a right tackle. Now if we end up drafting in the teens this year, all bets are off. I would rather have the best ILB prospect than the 3rd best tackle prospect for example.

        • CanadaBear

          In a way it’s refreshing to say drafting in the teens. If Foxy kept MG in there a lot of us would be convinced the Bears would be picking top 10 for sure and probably top 5.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Kevin Smith 2?

      Why draft a receiver that takes three years to train up like a shit-factory infant? Make moves for good receivers on other rosters, ready-to-go receivers – can Pace identify them? I don’t think he can.

  • FresnoBear88

    Could of did without the trump post. I swear that’s all ppl and news talk about now… I’m fucking bored with the trump bullshit that everyone spouts day in and day out.

    • CanadaBear

      I think that goes for all of us Fres except the biggest political junkies on the blog.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fres, I don’t watch the news anymore, and I’ve not watched any of Trumps’ presidency. Carefree zone. Reds. Blues. Democrats. Republicans. Senators. Congressmen.

      Once more, as Bill Hicks reminded us, “Suckers of Satan’s cock … each … and every one.”

  • AlbertInTucson

    BTW.

    I will take 1 order of Crow, to go, please.

    Deep fried.

    I didn’t think Glennon would absolutely, suck.

    Obviously, I was wrong.

    • CanadaBear

      I never said he was good, all I ever said was give him first chance. He indeed, did suck.

    • willbest

      pass the spoon. Sure his completions were low but didn’t think his TD:INT could be that deceptive.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Begs the question: What did the Bears see and when did they see it?

        Or, did Glennon crumble under the pressure of the “hear apparent in waiting”?

        • CanadaBear

          Ain’t that the question? It was easy to make the case that he never got a fair shot in TB but I’m guessing his highlight reel must be pretty brief. Gotta give Jeff credit for knowing how bad MG was. I never saw enough of him to have any idea.

          • willbest

            broken clock.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Tee-hee.

    • SC Dave

      I wanted him to have his chance. But I never expected him to be *that* bad.

    • Think it was a complicated issue.
      I know, I get the “start the kid, win now” mantra, but it went deeper than that

      not least of which is future QB FAs not signing with the Bears for fear of getting Glennoned – used as a pawn, then benched for a rook

      The NFL has a long memory.

      I don’t think the Ravens have done one single transaction with us since Glitchy fucked them.

      • Johnnywad

        Hopefully we get 12 to 15 years out of #10 and that’s no issue.

    • BerwynBomber

      You and me both. Fuck, I recommended him as a bridge guy.
      Thing is, his efficiency numbers were deceptive. I like efficiency numbers. I believe in them. But they’re not 100% accurate. And once in awhile they hide the real story.
      Case in point (historically) is Matt Schaub who rates pretty highly (top 20 maybe?) in all-time PR. Yet anyone who watched Schaub knows he was, at best, an average starter.
      Anyway, most on DBB who backed Glennon can be forgiven as it is doubtful we scouted game tape from start to finish. But what is scary is that the Bears FO did. How could they have been so wrong? Within a half of pre-season ball it was obvious that there were issues. The fact that they didn’t detect that on his TB game tape is a bit alarming.

      • Johnnywad

        Had I not seen Trubisky’s very obvious athleticism and talent this preseason, I’d be super skeptical right now about his chances given they chose Glennon as the bridge guy.

        Let’s see how raw he is now.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This is it. I must have watched about 40 minutes of Trubs … and I would have been fine with either one, put a gun to my head and it’s Watson.

        But for Pace to do his due diligence on Glennon, and then say “Yup, pay the man.”

        You have to wonder.

    • Johnnywad

      Same. I looked at his stats, and thought, “Okay. Fine. Expensive, but fine.”

      Shows what I know. Man that guy is just terrible. He stands near the top of the scrap heap of Bears quarterbacks for me. And that’s a tall scrap heap.

    • Irish Sweetness

      For him to shit the bed like that was stunning. It wasn’t something he was even close to looking comfortable at. Pace could very well be an oxygen thief.

  • FresnoBear88

    I’m fuckin lost another FF game fuuuckk! Myself decided to get shit table wasted the Friday night before the draft and woke up to fucking nobodies on my team. Other note just got a medical pot card and holy shit!

    • CanadaBear

      Edibles are the bomb! The herb is great, also!

    • haha, no worries, Ender I’m sure was sober, and he’s 0-4.
      NB probably came to the draft with a 10 page almanac, is 1-3.

      Da league can be rough.

      Except for me that is. I always rock.

      4-0 biatches! Riding the Chiefs train, choo-choo!

      Sac is also teabagging at 4-0. Also, Sac picked up Watson off the waiver-wires for like $1, so the draft is only one part about winning in FF

    • King of DBB

      What is “shit table wasted”?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I was wondering about the etymology likewise.

    • Sactowns#1

      Watson was still available after the draft. Coulda shoulda woulda. Why get the script now when in 3 months it will all be recreational?

      • CanadaBear

        3 months

    • SC Dave

      YOu guys know I don’t do FF, but I watched the Bills game on condensed.

      Charles Clay killed the Falcons and looked good doing it.

  • Sahr Gborie

    QB Mitch Trubisky says his HS QB coach told him “pressure only comes when you’re not prepared.”

    • willbest

      That doesn’t pass the smell test when you play a game where your opponents are trying to put you in the ground 3 seconds after you are handed the football.

      • Sahr Gborie

        It goes to this mental preparation

    • BearDown100393

      Mitch will now have all the time in the world to memorize Bears personnel with his tablet on the sideline.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Two ends of the rookie QB spectrum:

    Watson, thriving so far.

    Kizer, not so much.

    • willbest

      Mahomes and Trubisky on the bench.

      • Don’t forget Peterman too.

        Funny, the PS rumormill was full blast about Tyrod Taylor being benched (and even Alex Smith, for that matter).

        • AlbertInTucson

          That’s why they call them “Rumors”.

        • willbest

          Tyrod deserves benching. That kid should have told the Bills to pound sand. Instead he willingly took money out of his pocketbooks. No confidence in his own abilities. He needs to fire his agent.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I’m only using the ones currently playing.

  • FF…Sac and I running pimp slapping Waffle and NB last week.

    But really, I just wanted an excuse to re-post this vid!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUYa5aTdjfI

    • CanadaBear

      I didn’t make it to the funny part.

      • You should. Def worth it lol

        Edit. the whole thing is funny

        • CanadaBear

          I’m just gonna take your word for it this time!

    • EnderWiggin

      That’s actually a pretty good analogy. I feel like those guys in flannel shirts – not even getting the respect of a fist – just a big open mitt coming at me over and over.
      Week 1) lost by 1
      week 2) lost by 14
      week 3) lost by 5
      yesterday) lost by 2
      Brutal

  • Sahr Gborie

    Josh Bellamy says “Mitch Trubisky is a ‘baller.” Did Mike Glennon get a fair shake? “That’s above my pay grade”…..straight up funny

    • AlbertInTucson

      Great answer, Josh.

    • willbest

      Well if Bellamy doesn’t drop a ball the rest of the season we will know the answer.

      • Wouldn’t hold my breath. Bellamy dropped balls from like 4 diff QBs. Cargo, Hoyer, Barkley, Glennon.

        Bellamy is consistent if nothing else

        • CanadaBear

          No doubt MT will be more accurate and that should help with these WR’s but they will still drop more than their fair share of passes right in their hands.

          • Just our luck.

            The two ironmen on our team, Bellamy and McCmannis, are arguably the worst at their positions.

          • CanadaBear

            At least they bring it on ST’s. Sigh.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He’s dropped 4 balls this year, are we we really getting on his cheese about that?

      • Sahr Gborie

        you really want Christmas to come early huh?…lol

      • SC Dave

        Hahaha. Sure.

    • BearDown100393

      Bellamy is as useless at receiver as Giraffe under center.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Why? He’s a baller. Is he Tom Waddle? No. But he’s good when he’s good.

        • CanadaBear

          There’s a scouting report for the ages, He’s good when he’s good. REALLY?????????

  • BearDown100393

    Jeff applying extra starch to his navy blue #10

  • Sahr Gborie

    RT @Rich_Campbell: Bears media availability has finished. First thing’s first: Mike Glennon is a
    class act. Took ownership of his turnovers, praised Mitch.

    • Scharfinator

      Goes hand in hand with Jeff’s tweet. Glennon is a good guy, just not an NFL good QB.

      • SC Dave

        Evidently a good teammate too.

        Too bad character does help you process NFL defenses faster.

  • Oh plllllease bebe jebus, 10 pound don’t say a word yet, bebe Jebus.

    Reinstate this man so we can have a shot at him!

    Pro Football Talk reports Josh Gordon (suspended) has not applied for reinstatement.Gordon is reportedly out of rehab, and there were rumors floating around last month he would get reinstated. He has yet to apply,however, and it is far from a guarantee he will gain clearance from the
    NFL even if he does. We continue to guess he will not play this season – Roto

    • Sahr Gborie

      he put drugs over his career…why would you want that on the bears?

      • Irish Sweetness

        (looks at Bars’ roster)

        In a heartbeat. Did Mike Irvin ever play a game where he wasn’t on coke? Lawrence Taylor? Performance based contract with all that shit built into it. Pay for play.

    • willbest

      Perhaps the money and fame of the NFL is creating a situation where its too easy for him to get drunk and bang hos. If he were committed to getting a handle on his life, the best course of action might be to forgo the opportunity to be corrupted.

      • Sahr Gborie

        this a discussion not worth having because he does not fit the culture pace is trying to build

        • willbest

          Pace was willing to gamble on McDonald. He got egg on his face for it, but it does indicate he is willing to go to that well.

          • Sahr Gborie

            pace seems like a fooled me once cant get fooled again type of guy

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            it’s not like no one on this team has ever been caught for drugs on Pace’s watch… Jeffery, Freeman, Ferguson, Tayo Fabuluje, and Jalen Saunders.

          • Sahr Gborie

            that’s PED’s. not weed or something the police will arrest you for

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            You don’t know what the PED each took, some are illegal. You would just be kidding yourself if you believed players when they say they accidently took a bad supplement.

          • CanadaBear

            The only guy I believed that ever used that excuse was Jim Miller. He had a good point. Everyone in the locker room howled at him when he got popped. That’s how bad his body was!

          • SC Dave

            Weed will be legal nationwide within five years, as it always should have been.

            I haven’t smoked that shit for 30 years with maybe a handful of exceptions (i.e.5 instances).

            Something about being a dad got me past that.

            Didn’t work with the beer tho.

          • EnderWiggin

            Really? I also live in SC, and I gotta say: We aren’t even close to recreational.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sam Hurd!

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            he wasn’t on Pace’s watch.

      • He’s a stoner, not a drunk.

        Blackmon was the drunk.

        I can live with stoners on the Bears. You don’t get 1,500 yds receiving, on the Browns no less, by slacking in the locker room.

  • willbest

    Alright, this guy supposedly wired $100k to the Philippines last week, the GF knew. And why is the brother so concerned with her well being and certain she is innocent? Supposedly they had only been dating for 6 months, and he claimed he wasn’t close to his brother.

    Also, how the fuck did this guy have so much money? Some lucky real estate investments? Supposedly he gambled big time, you can’t win that long term.

    And I was right about the suitcases. There were 13 of them in the room. How does that not raise a curiosity with housekeeping? I guess they see all kinds of weird shit…

    Still no motive? There should be a 3000 page manifesto lying around somewhere.

    • Sahr Gborie

      he was a millionaire.
      only 6 months of dating…i think she turned him
      $100k to the Philippines…i think she turned him
      cant explain the suitcases….maybe it was over a period of time

      but not of that matters anymore. all that matters is that congress pass very strong gun control laws. how many more people have to die?

      • A republican congress, senate, prez passing strong gun control laws?

        Not bloody likely.

        And funny how the NRA go quiet when such incidents occur, but they love to boast when some liquor store owner blasts a 17 yr old kid stealing cheetos.

        Gun control will have to happen state by state, massacre by massacre.

        Nevada has some of the most lax gun laws. Will this be enough to tighten it up?

        • willbest

          The NRA has had a policy for a long while of not commenting on these incidents until they are reasonably sure of the facts.

          Incidentally, I read Sahr Gborie’s comment about gun control sarcastically, because everything this guy did was already against the law. He wasn’t on anybody’s radar so you are looking at banning all semi-auto long guns AND then going door to door to collect all of them AND then sealing off the border, if you actually want to prevent this sort of thing in the future.

          • Sahr Gborie

            I’m not saying to go door to door. However you can ban the sale of them unless you have a valid reason. At some point respect for all human life has to trump the ability to own guns. If not what happened in Vegas, Columbine and Sandy Hook will seem like child’s play compare to what come next because people like to copy cat

          • willbest

            Why aren’t you saying go door to door? There are 60 million guns out there that could be modded to do exactly what this guy did. And they aren’t loafs of bread. They are going to be out there for the next 100 years.

            And Orlando, Sandy Hook, etc. Now you are up to 160 million guns.

            Your ban on selling is going to work? I wonder how you will implement it.

            Plus, for $15k you can buy the equipment to just make the guns. How are you going to prevent the enterprising black market capitalists?

          • It’s all part of the plan

            by making the punishment deplorable.

          • willbest

            The bitch of beyond reasonable doubt is why straw purchasers rarely get busted. “I lost it” “it was stolen”

            And a home made gun is going to be basically untraceable.

          • It’s all part of the plan

            fuck it then, let’s party.

          • CanadaBear

            And unless you know what you are doing, unusable.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            its called the internet, CBear. you can find everything you need to know.

          • CanadaBear

            You go right ahead and shoot a gun you made from shit over the internet. I’ll stand over here out of the way and see if you’re OK afterwards.

          • King of DBB

            here was his punishment:

            Warning: NSFW, pic of the dude after he hit eject

            http://i.4cdn.org/pol/1507059160910.jpg

          • It’s all part of the plan

            we could go DPRK style and have women torture your ballsack.

          • WP4Life

            What the hell does the average joe need an AK or assulat rife for?

            I like stats not speculation.

            I grew up hunting and have a few long barrels; I dont have or see a need for assault long barrels.

            I doubt if any of these massacres used a home made gun.

          • willbest

            yet. You take the easiest path.

          • willbest

            I don’t know, I would kind of like an AK if I lived in Berkley and antifa decided to riot on my street. BLM?

            Nice pictures of those Koreans defending their stores from the LA riots. We seem to be headed that direction.

          • WP4Life

            I guess maybe that is what our america has turned into – that we all need to be armed.

            IMO – a 12 gauge pump scares off more than than a few

          • SC Dave

            I assume you mean the 3d printers

          • Sahr Gborie

            Maybe you are right. Maybe its necessary. I’m being serious. No sarcasm. A choice has to be made: respect for human life or freedom to owne guns. Its that simple.

          • willbest

            We are very good at stopping the last disaster. We don’t need the TSA. That is security theater. Nobody is going to let a terrorist at the cockpit now. And the Wynn and probably others have security guards with metal detector wands out there today and I am sure that the permanent metal detectors get installed next Tuesday. So there won’t be any more hotel snipers.

            But if you don’t go grab the guns, its going to be a minor league baseball game across from an office park. But that is just the guns. There are all kinds of ways to cause human suffering. So just getting
            the guns, doesn’t mean you get respect for human life. They are in no way shape or form related, so pretending they are is idiotic. Bad people are going to find ways. I think the people using trucks as a weapon of choice in Europe prove that much.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Evil triumphs when good people do nothing. Good people have been doing nothing for a very long time.

            I am all for getting rid of all guns. There are no more wars to fight, no government to resist against because we have giving up all of our rights already.

            This is just sad and pathetic.

        • Sahr Gborie

          sad

        • It’s all part of the plan

          Link to Liquor Store Cheetos Gun Battle please, I want to see if the guy stole Hot Cheetos to truly fulfill the full stereotype.

          • King of DBB
          • It’s all part of the plan

            damn GP, tough to watch. Tough but necessary.

          • Cheetos are race specific?

            I’m more a funions man myself.

          • It’s all part of the plan

            Hot Cheetos and Takis are….although MB swears by them. I’m 1/16th White Hispanic so I transcend racial boundaries.

          • CanadaBear

            No offense but white hispanic sounds rather dubious.

          • Cenelo Alvarez Waffle Obrian

          • CanadaBear

            I think you missed the hot part. Funyms!!!!!!!! YIKES!!!!!!!!!! Those are as bad as pork rinds!!!!!!!!

          • If I’m gonna go full ethnic, I get me some pork rinds drown them in lime and hot sauce and go to work!

        • willbest

          Democrats had 60 senators, the presidency, the majority of the House. They didn’t do gun control. There are too many Sac’s in the democrat party for them to get it done. Its not just the GOP.

          Although it would help if the democrats had some sort of legislation that would have actually prevented the particular attack on tap. They are mostly interested in passing security theater that makes law abiding citizens jump through more hoops.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      just put the do not disturb sign on the door and housekeeping will not check the room.

    • SC Dave

      Do we really need this shit here?

    • I’m still waiting for Trac and Irish to stop by and tell us he was a brainwashed CIA agent in order to fulfill the agenda of taking away our guns

      #deepState

      • willbest

        Well we know he was taking bribes working at the IRS. I don’t know how else you become a multimillionaire working for the government. The CIA probably caught him and required him to engage in some experimental program or they would throw him in pound me in the ass prison.

  • BerwynBomber

    For anyone else into passer efficiency numbers.

    Here are the top five in PR and QBR at the quarter mark of the season:

    PR
    1. Smith (KC)
    2. Brady (NE)
    3. Goff (LAR)
    4. Brees (NO)
    5. Cousins (WAS)

    QBR
    1. Watson (HOU)
    2. Brady (NE)
    3. Prescott (DAL)
    4. Ryan (ATL)
    5. Keenum (MIN)

    And for those interested in Bears QBs (both current and ex-es)

    PR
    21. McCown (NYJ)
    25. Cutler (MIA)
    29. Glennon (CHI)
    30. Hoyer (SF)

    QBR
    20. McCown
    28. Cutler
    29. Glennon
    31. Hoyer.

  • BerwynBomber

    Trevathan’s suspension limited to one game after appeal.

    • CanadaBear

      That’s fair considering he has no history of this.

      • I can live with that.

        NFL sends its msg.
        Bears send theirs.

        Maybe the next runner in the middle won’t be as enthused about fighting for extra yds next time.

        • CanadaBear

          Until the refs get the memo to whistle the play dead when the runner is stacked up, this will happen again. I wish it didn’t happen but I don’t blame DT one bit for flying in there.

    • SC Dave

      A good solution, methinks.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
    • SC Dave

      Gotta like that last line, which I think he’s used before. Paraphrasing… “yeah, I feel good. Haven’t gotten hit yet”.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    The most powerful face in the history of cinema is Pacino’s when Diane Keaton tells him about the abortion in Godfather II.”

    “…In the history of cinema…”?

    SMH.

    Talk about hyperbole.

    One of them, yes.

    There’s no such thing as “THE most…”

    • CanadaBear

      It’s like musicians and singers. I never say someone is the best, just my favorite.

      • SC Dave

        “Truth is disputable, not taste.”
        – David Hume

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Everyone is entitled to MY opinion.” – Anonymous.

          • It’s all part of the plan

            ha!

          • SC Dave

            My favorite dis of all time?

            “If I wanted your opinion, I’d give it to you.”

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s an interesting topic.

        One that came to mind for me is in CITIZEN KANE when, after destroying his first marriage and political career for his mistress, marrying her building her her own opera house and listening to her warble her way through an aria, Charles Foster Kane (Orson Welles) realizes his 2nd wife can NOT sing.

    • BerwynBomber

      It is also about a decade or so before Pacino slipped into self-parody territory.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Taxpayers should never pay a nickel for professional stadiums.”

    The politicians always make it sound like a “Can’t miss” revenue opportunity.

    The taxpayers get screwed, as usual.

  • King of DBB

    Morrissey, Sun Times:

    The McCaskeys apparently were antsy over the way things were going four games into the season, an indication of the depths of the situation. Maybe I’m not being completely fair with my characterization of a family uncomfortable with change. Perhaps they’ve had a surgical procedure to remove their deep-rooted tentativeness. Remember, they OK’d the trade that allowed the Bears to move up one spot in the first round and grab Trubisky. And, remember, lots of people thought taking him that high was a reach.

    So much is riding on the decision to start him Monday night. If he helps turn around the team after its 1-3 start, he could save coach John Fox’s job. Whether that’s a good thing is a subject for another day. If he’s awful or, worse, if he suffers a severe injury, all eyes will turn to Pace. He’s already the guy who gave Glennon $18.5 million in guaranteed money. He doesn’t want to be the guy who whiffed on Glennon and reduced a rookie quarterback to bits. If it was his decision this would not be taking place.

    Ok, so there we go.

    I am surprised the family stepped on their GM. And that is what happened here. Bernstein summed it on the Score:

    A. The family just does not abide getting pantsed on national tv against the Packers. It’s a big deal for the family to beat them.

    B. This tipped a balance that had been in place as long as any of them had been alive. The Packers are now 95-94-6 and own the rivalry after last Thursday. That is a big big number to the family and I am surprised that nobody brought it up yet.

    I did not think they would put their golden boy in the hot seat, but that is where he is. And this direction is not his idea, it can’t be his idea – it puts him at massive risk and he is taking a hit on Glennon not being serviceable at that price.

    Go back and read his rhetoric on Glennon in pre-season. It was pretty thick.

    So I misread the family’s intolerance for another season of abject Trestmanship.

    Good for them. Bad on me.

    • Johnnywad

      Pace lives and dies by the kid. He etched that on draft night by giving up the farm.

      Here’s to hoping he got it right.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I must have mentioned it 5 times on here. But if it was that important to them, you make the change before the game not after.

      • Johnnywad

        Nah. Fluid situation. Had the Bears scored a TD to close out the Falcons game, I contend Glennon would still be your QB even AFTER last Thursday.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Thank heavens for small mercies. We’ll get the Fudge at Soldier.

    • Orrrrr, hear me out, oooorrrr

      This was Pace’s plan all along.

      Some smokescreen with Glennon. TRY to ride him as far as Keenum took the Rams. Then, when Glennon inevitably flops, slip Trub in preferably vs Vikes or after the bye.

      https://isene.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/william-of-ockham-razor-quote.png

      • BearDown100393

        He didn’t need $18 million to do that.

        • Irish Sweetness

          How is Cutty worth 10 and Gummo 18?

          • BearDown100393

            How is Giraffe worth anything more than league minimum?

      • BerwynBomber

        I’m with Jeff on that one. Don’t buy the smokescreen theory. No way they could guarantee CLE or SF wouldn’t take MT — unless you’re arguing Pace was sold on all three of the top rookie QBs.

        I just think it was a piece of colossally bad pro scouting on behalf of the Bears. But luckily if Trubisky pans out (and to me he looked like real deal in PS) it won’t matter much.

        My only remaining wish is the same as Jeff’s and Gabriel’s. Promote Sanchize to #2. There is no role for Glennon on this team moving forward. Sanchize can offer almost everything Glennon does but better. The only thing that Glennon has over him is youth, but doubtfully that will matter much as he should probably be out of the league within two years.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I do think the smokescreen theory has some legs, but it wasn’t the only reason they signed Glennon, I am convinced that Pace and friends thought he we would be better. This kind of goes with all the people saying that sitting a rookie QB helps. Glennon showed some promise as a rookie, but his flaws were very apparent. Pace took a gamble that MG was able to mitigate those flaws while sitting the bench. It did not happen, Glennon did not take that next step and improve.

          • Agree about the smokescreen kinda being a side bet not the main one.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How does it have legs?

            The Browns drafted who they drafted at 1. The niners were in 2, they want Watson or Trubs, you draft Watson or Trubs at 2. We moved to 2 and drafted Trubs (unnecessarily as it turned out). Do the Niners get their QB at 3?

            Do they fuck.

            “When in doubt, do nothing.” – Sun Tzu.

            Pace is like Melchett in Black Adder goes Forth. He goes over the top at the Germans because that’s the last thing they’ll be expecting them to do, having done it already and failed 250 times.

        • I don’t necessarily believe he came up with a smokescreen plan either.

          HOWEVER, I DO believe they did like Glennon – up to a point

          As in, he was by far the best available (in their eyes) with the most upside who can “bridge”.
          Tyrod was off the table. They saw Hoyer’s ceiling and weren’t impressed. They weren’t about to trade for Jimmy G, etc

          So Glennon presented them with the most “upside”.

          That being said, Pace OBVIOUSLY wasn’t THAT impressed by Glennon.

          How do I know that?

          Cuz he traded up to draft Trub!

          Not to mention the structure of the deal.

          I think the plan was more like the Eagles when they had Bradford.

          Get Glennon as insurance (never know. Browns could’ve drafted Trub #1). HOPEFULLY he’s pretty good, in which case.

          1. Could afford to sit rookie QB
          2. Could dangle him for tradebait

          3. Smokescreen bonus, but not main goal.

          Worst case scenario would’ve been Glennon sucks, Browns get Trub, next season we draft high and enter QB sweepstakes.

          As it turns out, Pace got exactly what he wanted.

          Two stabs at a franchise.

          First flamed out.
          2nd, tbd, but I think he’s going to be money.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh yeah. I would agree with that. I’ve always thought (well at least since the draft) this was two bets on the franchise QB square. The first — Glennon — was the longshot. The second — Trubisky — was the one that most likely would make or break Pace.

          • Irish Sweetness

            1. The best available QB was already on the roster.

            2. Pace cut a guy we were paying 12M, hires Glennon who hasn’t played a couple of games in three years … and pays him MORE. Doesn’t know the playbook etc.

            3. And Glennon was going to mentor Trubs, how?

            Pace failed this, any way you dice it up.

            Keep Cutler. The Browns draft Trubs? We draft Watson. No picks lost. The Niners draft Watson? We draft Fournette. There was no way of losing. Pace fucked it up actually.

          • BerwynBomber

            So keep Cutler and draft Fournette? That is your future?

            Ugh …

            If Pace hit on Trubisky, Glennon will be a footnote.

          • Johnnywad

            Sounds pretty reasonable. I’d add they likely thought Glennon would at least be good enough to serve as a long term backup. Good character, team guy. The contract makes sense in that regard as well. That deal was never structured to indicate he was the long term plan. He’s already scheduled to make backup money next season. For my part, I’d rather they pay him to stay home next year.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            if he is on the roster next year that is $15mill. That is not backup money. The only way he would have seen year 2 of this contract was if he had a pro bowl year this year.

          • Johnnywad

            My mistake. I remembered 2.5M.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s the guaranteed money next year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Vikes. And I think Bradford is back against us.

        Watch Fangio sit back (when they’ve lost their stud back, remember) and lose us the game. Watch him give Bradford all day, and ignore Stefon Diggs, paying him no special attention, and have him gash us for 180 yards.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Joniak sits down with Foxy. Gummo is the backup.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2y9XYb_mMc

    Good point raise. Why was Glennon chosen when he hadn’t played much in three years? Mitchell has played more.

  • Irish Sweetness

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    Pace’s drafts mean he is sticking around so whether you trust him or not is meaningless.

    Whoa Nelly. We got Cohen and Trubs from this draft, anyone else is wait and see ….. and the QB he could have had without giving up FOUR PICKS TO MOVE UP ONE SPOT.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      don’t forget Jackson, who is doing pretty good starting. and Adam Shaheen, so far all he ever does is catch TDs.

      • Johnnywad

        NNNNOOOOOOPPE. we’re 4 games in. These other guys……..busts. All of them.

    • CanadaBear

      3 picks. If you’re gonna shriek like Chicken Little get it right.

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