• willbest

    2017 – the lost year

    • Sahr Gborie

      100% agree

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      I found it.

  • 505Bears

    Chez and the giraffe?! Better than Cutler?!

    • MB30SD

      Much

    • BearDown100393

      At what?

  • Sahr Gborie

    i just dont know what to think any more

  • Captain Obvious

    (Posted this to the wrong thread. Sorry for duplicates)

    So I think the Glennon situation means one of three possibilities for 2017:

    85% likely that Glennon will be Hoyer-esque and is little more than a placeholder until a real QB can come in and take the job.
    5% likely that Glennon will put the team on his shoulders and have a Pro Bowl year and be the guy for the future at a bargain-basement price. However, this means that Birdcage will be seen as some sort of QB-fixer (which would likely be the case for Glennon to have that kind of year), and he’s gone to the next team to have a HC vacancy. Thereby undercutting Glennon’s future success.
    10% likely that Pace has another strong draft, fixing the back end of the defense — then the defense (and power running game) gels and DESPITE Glennon’s Hoyer-ish performance, the team avoids the injury bug and rides a mediocre QB into the playoffs (one-and-done). And every Bears fan screams hatred for Pace, because although he fixed the rest of the roster, had he made ONE BLOODY DECENT move to improve the QB situation, we’d have a contender instead of a pretender.

    Pace (and the organization) has no real path to true success in 2017. I plan to watch games the same way I look at UIUC scores: pleased if they win, but not affected one way or the other… because it won’t amount to much.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      does anyone truly want the Bears to make the playoffs? No matter if it is one and done the end result is Fox gets an extension.

      • willbest

        I started to say am leaning toward wanting another 3-13 season. But that won’t fix the problem either. We just need to find our 2nd round Brees, Dalton, Carr at this point. Of course to do that we have to start drafting QBs, which Pace is gearing up to avoid doing.

        • Captain Obvious

          100% agreed. Need a diamond in the rough, but not too rough. A guy that can sit and learn while Glennon takes the beating on the field (and in the press)

      • Captain Obvious

        That’s part of my point. Bears succeed with Glennon, it actually is somewhat hurtful in the long run. Because if they succeed BECAUSE of him, they keep him and watch him regress to his average (especially if he succeeds because the system, and the system changes when Birdcage inevitably gets hired away). And if they succeed DESPITE him, they sacrifice draft position as the defense is peaking and better offensive skill position players are available at the top half of the 1st round.

      • BearDown100393

        Pacebot will extend Fox’s contract before training camp because it makes no sense.

        • willbest

          The only way to explain the Sanchez bit is that Pace is giving Fox all the rope he wants in order to hang himself.

          • BearDown100393

            Fox: Pacebot, you can destroy the McCaskeys. Virginia has foreseen this. It is your destiny. Join me, and together we can ruin the Bears as father and son.

          • King of DBB

            FEEL the power of the eternal suckage.

      • Sahr Gborie

        if fox is coming back sign me up for 0-16

      • evantonio

        unless he gets fired after an 0-5 start, they bring in Craig Krenzel as interim HC (he’s not Harbaugh, but he’s an ex-Bears QB!) and rattle off 11 straight wins.

      • CanadaBear

        Ugh. Hate to wish for losses but …

    • willbest

      You give us a 15% chance at the playoffs based on our FA acquisitions in a division with Aaron Rodgers?

      • Captain Obvious

        No, 10%. The 5% chance that Glennon has a PB year doesn’t mean the team is good enough to get to the playoffs.

        And 10% means potential wild card, or maybe Rodgers breaks his collarbone again, or heck, a top-5 defense built to stop Rodgers can go a long way to winning the division.

        • willbest

          The secondary was upgraded, but that is not the making of a top 5 defense without a flukey TO streak, or somehow finding Suh in the draft.

          • Captain Obvious

            That’s why it’s only a 10% chance, in my head. A top-tier safety might make a world of difference. And if Bullard develops. And Floyd continues to. And Goldman doesn’t get hurt. And Hicks keeps playing like he did last year. Etc., etc.

            What was the D ranked last year riddled with injuries up-front, and with a bunch of paper clips and chewing gum in the secondary? This year we have bailing wire and (with a good draft) a good guy or two.

          • willbest

            They ended up 24th I believe in points allowed. In truth that should correct 5-8 spots just by ending our 2 year TO drought.

          • Weren’t the Bears a top 12 defense last season even w all the injuries ?

          • willbest

            Not in the only stat that matters points allowed.

          • willbest

            They were like the 4th ranked offense in terms of yards or something even though they were 30th in points too.

        • MB30SD

          I’m really hoping he Breaks his vagina this year

      • Sahr Gborie

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARy1PR1VAkg
        FATALITY!!!…..hahahahahahaha

    • King of DBB
    • BerwynBomber

      Not to split hairs but I would say there are two other possibilities with Glennon (starting with the most hopeful):

      1. He is somewhere between excellent back-up/solid spot starter (Hoyer) and Pro Bowler (which is basically an exotic animal we have never seen in these parts). In other words, he is a slight improvement over Cutler.

      2. He sucks

  • King of DBB
    • CanadaBear

      Really sad. I know a lot of people on here never liked him because they never saw him play and just thought he was a crabby bastard. I always liked him because he told the truth (at least as far as the way he saw things) and didn’t sugar coat them. I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. It’s by far my biggest fear.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, condolences on your guy …

      • I always felt he was a bit bitter cuz the injuries robbed him of greatness.
        Understandable. And yeah, he told it like it was (in gis eyes).
        Kinda like Eric Dickerson w the Rams

  • BerwynBomber

    I’ll go with “Interested but Undecided”

    • FresnoBear88

      I’ll go with “Omg we are fucked”

      • MB30SD

        Fres?!?

      • BerwynBomber

        Sounds like “Angry & Upset” …

        • willbest

          Not if he has achieved acceptance.

          • BerwynBomber

            Doubtful …

    • CanadaBear

      I went with cautiously optimistic. I don’t care wasn’t exactly true (or else, why be here).

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, that’s what I picked too, though as much out of default …

  • BearDown100393

    Mike Glennon present to introduce Sanchez to the press. Very classy. http://www.boweryboogie.com/content/uploads/2015/03/vote-pedro.jpg

  • willbest

    The thing I hate most about the Sanchez signing is that Pace doesn’t even want to consider Shaw as a #2 QB.

    • BearDown100393

      If Connor Shaw cannot compete with Sanchez for the backup role, he should immediately retire.

      • willbest

        Its not about that, its about Fox being a fucking tool. If Langford didn’t injured himself Howard would have been on the bench for another 4-6 games before Howard got the carries he deserved.

        • Johnnywad

          One could just as easily say Fox “developed” Howard. Like the bullshit we hear about QBs

        • We can see the diff between Fox and Fangio there. Fox’s “old school ” ways still value vets and experience over unprovens like Langford while Fangio is unsentimental about it. Vereen sucked, he was benched then cut. Fuller a pussy? He calls him out on it.

    • BerwynBomber

      The only QB whose place on the final roster is secure is Glennon. The #2 is up for grabs. Sanchez, Shaw and/or maybe a rook.

      • Johnnywad

        Absolutely. He’s just putting bodies in line right now.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Shaw will be injured during the 2nd PS game.

      • willbest

        So that thing Kevin White and Fuller has is contagious? wonderful.

  • willbest

    John McCain behind the leaks? Hollywood couldn’t write this.

  • King of DBB
    • I was talking to my ex-marine bud who’s one of the smartest ppl i know, and he once said “ppl think white americans don’t have a culture, but that’s wrong. Our culture is war and power. That’s what gets us hard and gives us purpose”

      Hoorah?

      • King of DBB

        Hoorah.

      • willbest

        If our culture was war and power, we wouldn’t bitch about a couple thousand dead soldiers when acquiring new territory for the Empire.

        Our culture has been more or less about not shitting on curious people. Its how we have made 80% of all advances of consequences in the last 100 years.

        • Americans IMO are obsessed with war and power. Has any other modern country been in conflict for as long as the US?

          And we’ve been in continual wars to attain and maintain power.

          I don’t think the typical Spaniard or Japanese gives a fuck if its a SuperPower, but for some reason, the U.S. NEEDS to be the most Super. Patton identified the American psyche properly in his speech

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CYhHIe_UELM

          Needless to say, the Nietzschean will to power has its dangers.

          • willbest

            As to Japan or Spain, I would argue that I don’t think many college programs concern themselves with winning a Super Bowl. We might all be playing the same sport, but we are playing in a different league.

            As for anybody that has been in a state of perpetual war, I suppose we would need to define modern and state of war. All Empires exist in this state to varying degrees. The Brits, french, Spanish just a couple hundred years ago.

          • Yes but the U.S. overthrew an Empire exactly because they were tyrannical only for itself to become a knock-off version.

            By war, I mean, young americans dying in foreign countries due to interventionist ideals, ie, obsession with power.

            Vietnam I don’t think was “technically” a war, nor was our proxy “wars” on drugs or vs communism in Latin America, or our fucking around in [name the country], but results still the same.

            Troops on the ground dying – perpetuation of the military-industrial complex at the expense of the middle class.

          • willbest

            I get that, but there are always military skirmishes on the boundaries of every Empire. That is why I brought up the Brits, French, and Spanish.

            Vietnam is sort of like the French and Indian War. Now perhaps modern warfare gets to be a quite a bit more bloody, but how does that compare in relative population sizes between the Empires.

          • willbest

            Incidentally, we are rather benevolent as Empires go. Trump spouted out “Americans First” and it was met with resistance. If the country were sane, it would have been mocked for it obviousness. And yet you got important people in the GOP condemning him for his lack of inclusiveness.

  • King of DBB

    https://nflmocks.com/2017/03/24/colin-kaepernick-jay-cutler-proving-nfl-truth-perception/

    Wow. This is how bad it’s gotten for Jay. His personality is so toxic he’s in a boat with a traitor to the country.

    I bet he cares now.

  • MB30SD
  • DaMurph

    Looks like we will go into the season with three quarterbacks that have thrown a total of less than 30 passes last season. Boy am I fucking excited about this! I don’t see how this does anything except implode. I can’t muster up any excitement for the upcoming season. This whole free agent singing leaves me shaking my head. Unless something spectacular happens with our draft I think we are destined for mediocrity over the next decade. If Pace blows another first rounder with a no playing no impact pick I may have to just give up watching the NFL, without any hitting allowed it just won’t be fun to watch.

    • BearDown100393

      Leonard’s alright. Kevin’s uhh….. well Cody kinda makes up for him.

    • Doesn’t the Chinese (mandarin or cantonese to be exact) word for “crisis” also mean “opportunity” ?

      Jeff is right. In the NFL, you’re one of two teams.

      You’re either a team who has a QB.
      ——————–Or——————
      You’re a team that is searching for a QB

      (There’s a 3rd option which we were for a long time which might even be worse
      A team that THINKS they have a QB, but doesn’t)

      We’re presently a team searching for a QB, and it’s not going to be a quick and easy quest.

      How long did the pats and saints SUCK b4 Brady or Brees?

      Hopefully it won’t take that long, but that’s what happens when the NFL handicaps the D disproportionately to feature the QB when there’s only like 10 men on the planet who can play QB well on a consistent basis.

      Sanchez is just a camp arm for now.

      Gotta see what Pace does in the draft 1st.

      And never know. Lots of rumors were swirling that he wanted Garrappolo.

      What if Pace a fellow alumni has a gentlemen’s agreement in place for next yr with Jimmy G who wants to return back to Illi ?

      I’m giving Pace some leeway before I bolt.

      • BerwynBomber

        That third option is worse. Much worse. Delays the inevitable while half the fan base drools over fool’s gold.

        • It is. It’s like being in a bad marriage but you want to make it work for the kids. So you keep fooling yourself, “This can work. The alternative is worse.” and years of misery accumulate.

          Just fucking get divorced and start anew.

          Yeah, it’ll be a nightmare short term, and change doesn’t happen without risk, but shit, you only live once. Can’t enslave yourself to re-runs of torment.

          Man up. Change the fucking channel.

          • MB30SD

            Very much.

            You only live once, fuck all dogma… Just go fucking rockstar your life.

            …And your NFL org.

        • SC Dave

          This completely . Thanks for saving me the effort to post it.

      • MB30SD

        Me too, but it’s a very short leash.

        It’s not so much pace but the McCaskeys and that cunt Ted, the longer they keep him around, the more I’ll be the fuck outta here.

        With him running things and not giving a shit about wins, we’re going to stay terrible or mediocre at best. Period. It HAS to come from the top down.

        • I would like to believe that Pace has autonomy from those buffoons, but who really knows?

          Unless Pace completely bombs in the draft, I’m giving him a chance to choose his own HC and QB.

          Pace not only inherited a decade of bad drafts, but Cutler and Fox as well.

          One down, one more to go.

          • MB30SD

            Oh I agree. If he doesn’t blow up the draft (in a good way) I’ll lose even more interest and probably won’t watch more than one or two games.

            And if we’re bad AND nothing changes in 2018, I’ll just stop following at all until Ginny dies and her shitweasel kids sell, or at least they fire that POS teddy.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            pussy!

          • MB30SD

            Guinness escares me.

      • leftcoast dave

        You don’t pay 2m for a “camp arm.” Sanchez is an insurance policy and hopefully a mentor as well as a deek for the upcoming draft.

    • FresnoBear88

      Should fans boycott if draft goes to shit??? Fuck it why not right?

      • If I lived in Chicago, I would seriously print out “Fire Teddy Phillips” petitions and hand them out at Soldier Field every home game.

        Not even lying. Someone over there, plz do it. Give em a free beer to sign in true Chicago political style.

        • MB30SD

          Diz

        • BearDown100393

          For faster results, have a Terrible Ted lookalike shove George at Soldier Field.

          • Moses Christ. Could you imagine a play or interpretive danced of the Bears?

            Ppl thought Oedipus was tragic…

      • willbest

        How do we know until the season though? Outside of I think Big Mike, and maybe another guy, we were all making fun of country strong poo pooing all the guys we could have drafted if we didn’t trade back. And Whitehair turned out to be what the 3rd or 4th best rookie we have drafted in the last 10 years? Behind Long, Forte, and possibly Howard.

        • Ppl were losing their minds when Pace began trading down in the 2nd.

          It was pretty funny.

          • willbest

            With the first trade down we lost out on Jihad and Robinson, both were liked around here. Henry who Irish still complains about. And then gave room for the Packers to jump us and draft Spriggs. Right after which, Pace traded down again, and I believe the thinking was he just lost out on a bunch of guys he thought he could get if he waited

            And of course people couldn’t wrap their heads around building the interior line which was one of our strengths from the previous season.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s a beast. Murray eats into his snaps.

          • leftcoast dave

            Especially now that the results can be seen. Blue chip in the middle who can move left or right if Grassu pans out plus two more draft picks. Duh?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Give me Derrick Henry over Whitehair. Today. Center can be found. We had one! Large fast men are rare at the RB position.

          • willbest

            Its harder to find a quality Center/Guard than it is to find a quality RB.

      • SC Dave

        Fan boycotts are irrelevant. TV is all the money

      • Irish Sweetness

        We’d have been boycotting them for the last 30 years in that case. I love my Bears. I’m there until I die. Lombardis are just like big red cherries on top.

    • SC Dave

      Jordan Howard. Think Payton in 1976

      • Irish Sweetness

        I love Jordan, but he’s no Walter. That’s Leonard.

  • ButtonShoes

    “SBNation: Are the Bears the new Browns?”

    http://www.sbnation.com/2017/3/24/15047760/bears-mark-sanchez-mike-glennon-new-browns

    Some of us have been saying this for a while already.

    • AlbertInTucson

      We will discuss when the Browns ever get to a Super Bowl.

    • BearDown100393

      Heavens no.

      Cleveland is the new Bears.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The Browns were in the “super bowl” ten years in a row, winning 7 under Otto. I’d take that. We’re a long way from that.

  • BearDown100393

    “The Art of the Fucking Con Man”

    Ryan Pace already has an autobiography published?

  • Captain Obvious

    So a lot of people (not me) were thrilled when we got Mirer. When we got McNown. When we got Cutler. Those were 1st-rounders or trades where multiple 1st-rounders were given up. None really panned out. Think about it: Cutler is the best 1st-round value since McMahon.

    Anyway, a lot of people were underwhelmed by acquiring Kramer (including me) and Miller. But both turned out to be good values — Kramer one of the best QBs in franchise history, a good player whose career was cut short (and a good guy, too… hope he continues to feel better after his self-inflicted lobotomy).

    I’d rather have more of the latter than the former. A decent QB who doesn’t cost much is better for the franchise than a high-cost bust. So maybe it’s the 3 dopplebocks I’ve drank in the last hour, but I’m starting to be optimistic about Glennon. As long as the Bears don’t pass on Thomas, Garrett, Adams, or Hooker by blowing the #3 pick on a weak QB class.

    • Good points.

      It’s psychological to an extent.

      1st rd QBs, esp if they’re early, are EXPECTED to become HOFers. Anything short equals “bust”

      If Cousins would’ve crashed and burned, no fan burns his jersey in effigy like with RG3.

      Glennon is essentially our Cousins gambit.

      Sure, he costs, but who gives a fuck? It’s not our $, and it doesn’t hurt the cap going forward.

      If Glennon goes full-Flynn, next. No biggie.

      http://img1.joyreactor.com/pics/post/demotivation-posters-auto-274599.jpeg

      • SC Dave

        All that is why I answered “Cautiously optimistic”.

        And that’s the low side. What if the dude is actually good?

        • Irish Sweetness

          5-13 Dave. He’ll need to find inspiration from somewhere.

          • CanadaBear

            Inspired enough to play two extra games this year?

    • leftcoast dave

      Agree, would just add don’t waste the 3 on only one player.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I do not know ANY Bear fans who didn’ CRINGE when they went after Mirer.

      • CanadaBear

        I assumed they would fuck up the pick anyway so it didn’t really bother me any. I certainly wasn’t surprised when he washed out.

    • Irish Sweetness

      As it is. we have 3 QBs. We do not have a dominant pass rusher on the line, maybe one in the LB corps. Garret is a possibility if the top two pick their QBs, or someone comes up to get one.

  • BearDown100393

    I’m really looking forward to the Bears hype video for the upcoming season to include Glennon and Sanchez.

    Glennon & Sanchez……

    Reminds me of a terrible candidate running for president. And then picks an even worse running mate as VP.

    Thanks a bunch Ernie.

  • He stays on msg, I’ll give him that.

  • SC Dave

  • leftcoast dave

    I’m all in on Glennon for the obvious reasons of risk/reward. Build what you must when you can. This year is too much of a crap shoot to waste any capital, cash or draft. That said, I did get a kick out of this:

    http://bearswire.usatoday.com/2017/03/24/funny-picture-mike-glennon-mark-sanchez-chicago-bears-quarterback/

  • leftcoast dave

    Not a bad article talking about the risk/reward and not even talking about this draft class:

    “It means that only 12 of the 22 quarterbacks selected in the top
    three are successful NFL quarterbacks. Only 55%. One step further, only
    41% of those QBs selected played at a level a team would consider
    acceptable when using a pick that high.

    On the opposite end, 45%
    of these quarterbacks cannot be considered successful NFL QBs and 36% of
    these quarterbacks are flat-out busts.

    The bottom line is that
    nothing is certain. Using a top three pick on a quarterback only gives
    you about a 50-50 return. That’s a major risk for GM Ryan Pace whose
    seat is already starting to get pretty warm.”

    http://beargoggleson.com/2017/03/24/chicago-bears-fans-quarterback-amnesia/

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s always been my contention. You don’t have to draft your QB. You could fill any QB roster with three vets at all times. Two if you like it risky (the third guy should know the offense).
      Why babysit and develop a QB for somebody else to sign away? Just hire pros.

  • leftcoast dave

    Gotta’ like someone who wants to be on your team:

    “When I watched the Bears’ film, I saw a great offensive line, I saw a
    great running game and I saw playmakers on the outside,” Glennon said
    the day he officially signed. “I saw a system that I felt fit my skill
    set. When I saw that, I thought if that was a place I would open up at
    the quarterback position, that was a place where I wanted to go.

    “Then I started doing more research and started talking to players
    that were either here or have played here. Nothing but great things to
    say about the organization, Ryan (Pace), the coaches. Really, this was a
    team that I thought about over these last few months. I’m just excited
    that it all worked out the way that I had hoped and envisioned.”

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/03/24/mike-glennon-believes-in-his-chances-with-the-bears/

    • Yes. I was really impressed with his presser. Check it out on the official site.

      Articulate and in depth.

      Doesn’t sound like a frat boy on a bender.

      Don’t know if that will translate, but at least the post games should be more tolerable.

      • SC Dave

        They talk about his “intangibles”… funny how much of that “Football Life” Warner video Irish linked emphasized that.

        • MB30SD

          He also has “awareness”… and throws with “trajectory”.

          Let’s not start suckin each other’s dicks just yet shall we?

          • SC Dave

            MB, I have no fucking idea whether Glennon *has* any of it. I was just struck by how much Warner’s teammates talked about his attitude/intangibles making everyone around him better.

            We fucking need someone like that.

            Badly.

          • MB30SD

            I hear Dave, a Mr. Jamal Adams, has said qualities… But for the other side of the ball.

            Yes. Please.

          • SC Dave

            Works for me. Gotta eat the elephant one bite at a time.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Strateegery on the trajectory … it’s got electrolytes

          • MB30SD

            Synergizing

    • Irish Sweetness

      “.. I thought if that was a place I would open up at
      the quarterback position, that was a place where I wanted to go.”

      Translation : Chicago were the only people offering me $15 million.

      • SC Dave

        Maybe. Or maybe he means it. Shit Irish, you posted the Warner thing. Remember the stuff he said?

        Does Glennon have any of that? I dunno. But I’ll just hope so until the whole notion crashes in flames. Or *doesn’t*.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’m pulling for him. But if he does well, Jay might have done better. Strong line. Good receivers. Good running game. Jay never had all that at the same time.

  • BuddhaJoe

    This almost feels like Pace is making the fans feel better about drafting a QB at #3. I mean, Glennon and Sanchez? Before I wanted Hooker, Adams or (unlikely) Garrett, but now I’d be almost relieved if they got Watson.

    • SC Dave

      Do not submit. Adams or Thomas. The. End.

      • Irish Sweetness

        One of those guys … or … two firsts, a second and a third? Which do you take? Four good players (hopefully)…. or just one?

        • MB30SD

          Two first, a second, and a third. That sounds amazing

          NB or Data, what’s the price for a #3 these days again? And what teams this year are desperate enough to trade down?

          If we can get the Irish special for our #3 pace is basically a unicorn

          • SC Dave

            Or do you want a decade-long leader/superstar on defense?

            Irish’s scenario is a fantasy. Unless you’re talking half of those picks in 2018.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You draft Bubba in 2?

          • MB30SD

            Jes please, you know I do.

            You take the Adams and run.

            … and thank you sir may I have another

          • Irish Sweetness

            If Cleveland want up from their spot, they’d give us that. They’re 11 or 12 I think. They could get Garret AND a QB.

          • MB30SD

            So their 11, 33, and 65 this year, their top 3 again next year (assuming here, history and all).

            Fuck yes take that in a heartbeat. Sadly, no fucking way we get offered that… Not even the browns are that fucking dumb.

          • Sure, and I can get free sex in the champagne room at strip bars after they pay for my drinks.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly

        • See handle

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s exactly how I feel. I’d almost draft Trubisky or Watson (or even Kizer) over Fournette now. I’d die happy if I could see Howard and Fournette just wear down defenses all day long. But I think we lost our best chance of the playoffs in cutting Jay (though he may well be seriously injured).
      It’s tough to get the three spot. That’s normally where you find the best QBs, not as an afterthought in the third round. Glennon might orchestrate the offense well, but he is who he is, and Sanchize just has horrendous numbers. We need a young one in there watching the top two collapse and fall to the side, before they emerge and take the team as their own.

      Thing is, a Kurt Warner isn’t in that top three. So let’s fuckin’ run the thing. All. Day. Long.

      • leftcoast dave

        Hey, Glennon has faith, just like Kurt. Now he gets his shot. He’s all in.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Warner would get made starter and automatically walk up to people and tell them to do their jobs. Mike hasn’t got that Brady/Warner/Peyton fire. He’s a nice Irish boy.

        • Glennon is a holy roller?

          Didn’t help Tebus throw an out route.

      • “But I think we lost our best chance of the playoffs in cutting Jay (though he may well be seriously injured).”

        I think you need to start drinking again, Irish.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Never.

          Well, let’s see. I wish Mike well (especially since Sanchize is the backup!).

          If draft and FA brings us a few pieces, and Jordan stays healthy … who knows?

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’m a cunt-hair away from moving to either Saudi or China. Somebody stop me please.

    • MB30SD

      If you weren’t an anti-Semite in your spare time, I’d suggest Israel

      • Irish Sweetness

        Too close to Turkey :o)

        • MB30SD

          I’d proffer too close to Palestine

    • You don’t drink anymore, so Saudi shouldn’t be too horrible, esp since you don’t have a vagina.

      • MB30SD

        It’s a tad hot there for a couple weeks outta the year, like… all of ’em

    • willbest

      Interesting either or.

    • MichiganBearFan

      Dubai. Save yourself a large bucket of suck.

    • CanadaBear

      Do you have anyone in Canada that could sponsor you? Pretty sure you’re from Southern Ireland so I don’t think that helps any with the Commonwealth connection. Wish I knew more about it but I came in under the spousal program.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Lance Briggs on The Rich Eisen show.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhOl1Ll6kNU

    If you don’t watch it, the main takeaway was his claim that all football players have CTE. Looks like Lance is in trouble.

    The second shocker was that both Urlacher and Neon Deion have hair now. Sewn in.

    Lac on Eisen.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQwQxJpbKns

    Lac wouldn’t go back to Chicago as long as Jay was there. He implied Cutty wasn’t great at team interaction in the locker room.

    • BearDown100393

      Lance has been commenting on his CTE symptoms lately. Sad.

    • MB30SD

      Implied?!? He pretty much came out and said it

    • willbest

      Lac would have gone back if they offered him a million more. They didn’t and nobody else did either.

  • willbest

    Been watching Iron Fist on netflix. Seems the weakest of the 4. The dialogue needs to be punched up a bit, and the pacing is a bit slow. I think I am going to really enjoy The Defenders though.

    • Began watching some of Luke Cage. Kinda dig the urban grittiness.
      Isn’t Iron Fist white on Netflix?

      • willbest

        Iron Fist is white in the comic book, so I don’t know what the fuck everybody was getting their panties in a twist over.

        • Was he? I vaguely remember him being asian, or maybe that was just in the video games.

          I don’t really like some switches just for the sake of it. Like I didn’t really get why they made the Torch black in the Fan 4.

          Or women as Ghostbusters.

          And I’m fairly certain Mandarin was…Mandarin.

          • willbest

            nope. Always a white dude. There is a Shang-Chi, he isn’t in the series that I am aware. Although Colleen Wing is. She does some crime fighting with Misty Knight in the comics.

            Sometimes it doesn’t matter. But if it causes you to have to do too much tampering with the source material then why even bother calling him Iron Fist. Just make a new guy up. Iron Fist isn’t Spider-man. The baked in audience for the guy is probably about 80 people.

          • MB30SD

            What in thee fuck are you two going on about?!?

            Noon-smoke was always my favorite. Pretty much unbeatable if you got goot… His fatalities were funny too.

            Oh and iron fist is black: https://g.co/kgs/30MV2g

          • willbest

            What was the deal with Lucy Liu being considered hot?

          • MB30SD
          • willbest
          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d wear that like a horse’s feedbag Will. Yessir.

      • willbest

        Luke Cage I felt was another one that had pacing issues, but at least there was a lot of depth to the characters and soul to the location.

        Iron Fist might be better if you know Batman Begins wasn’t so much better at the whole orphan son of billionaires gets training and returns home.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’m getting into ‘This is us’ no. Really good writing and framework.

  • FresnoBear88

    At my local liquor store today cashier was a Niner Fan. Wearing my Bears shirt he tells me their QBs are Hoyer and Barkley. I said “shit you have it worst than us”. Funniest shit I heard all day! I guess I can join the “cautiously optimistic” crew now.

  • BearDown100393

    “I like Ryan Pace.”

    Liking’s got nuttin’ to do with this.

  • BearDown100393

    How do people like AP throw the word “God” around?

    Because a stick is nothing compared to a couple of 2 x 4s and 4 nails?

    • CanadaBear

      He’s the tip of the iceberg. It’s like all these “Christians” that would happily have poor people starve to death because they have different politics.

      • BerwynBomber

        Exactly. AP is near saintly compared to the innumerable evil fucks who’ve hidden behind/sought shelter in Christianity, let alone other religions across the globe.

        Plus, Jeff’s critically free love of BMarsh always put his AP hate in a dubious light. The guy was suspended for a year. Move on.

      • Kill a commie for christ!

    • MB30SD

      Too soon?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      God forgives all that want to be forgiven. You heathens should pick up a bible and repent for your sins. The only path to the promise land is by giving yourselves over to our almighty lord and savior Jesus Christ.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m in trouble! Don’t Caaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaare!

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          yeah I don’t believe that shit either. I had an old woman knocking on my door this morning trying to preach that shit to me. Pissed me off since I was hungover. I said excuse me let a disgustingly juicy beer fart rip then stepped back inside and slammed the door.

          • MB30SD

            Mean!

            That said, in college we used to answer the door naked all the time

          • Did it ever turn into a porn?

          • MB30SD

            Nah, never had a hot one

          • The turn on is converting them to the dark side!

            I would spank their pale butts (you know it’s pale) with their own bible.

            “The action is the juice!”

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2ojmr1gDrY

          • MB30SD

            Love that flick. In my top 5ish

          • CanadaBear

            Awesome! My last encounter with the door-to door dopes was at least 20 years ago. I got off night shift and was sleeping. It was about 9 AM when two ladies start pounding on the door so hard the sconces in the bedroom were rattling. I go to the door in my robe, see these two ladies and say, “If this is religion, forget it!” One of the ladies said can you answer one question. I said “You get one!” She asked if I believed in our lord and savior jesus christ? I said just a little too huffy, “Not even remotely!” At that point they kinda recoiled and said have a nice day.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            man you are lucky – I get those Jesus freaks showing up at least every month or two.

          • CanadaBear

            Definitely fewer of them in Canada. Not to mention where I live is a narrow two-lane road with no shoulders, no sidewalk and a decent drop off on one side. No place for missionary work if you have any other choice.

          • Canada sounds dreamy. No Jehovah’s. Universal health care. Mooses, guns, beers and hockey.
            French women…I’m moving in Cbear

          • If they’re mormon, put em to work. If u ask them to mow ur lawn pr something, i think they’re obligated to help.
            That’ll stop them coming around.
            I posted a pretty funny story about Jehovah s a few yrs back

          • MB30SD

            Good kids man. Not totally jaded yet, not hypocrites… Yet. Just good kids carrying out the brainwashing their parents started.

            I always offer them water and something to eat… Standing there sweating in the sun in their white shirtsleeve button downs, black slacks and bike helmets.

            Poor fuckers. I always feel sorry for them.

          • willbest

            A more benevolent brainwashing than what the FedGov is trying to do to us sheep.

          • MB30SD

            you have a choice with one of them.

            Tell you what, you tell the fedgov they can fuck right off next time they send you a tax bill… or go ahead and open carry a firearm.

            Let me know how all that goes.

          • willbest

            heh… I got my family to think about. At least with God, its only my eternal soul that is fucked if I disobey him.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, and not even that.

            It’s all a bullshit construct man. It always blows me away to see really smart people bought into that bullshit. Weird.

            I’m all for it for people who need it, but fuck man, you only go round once (as far as evidence shows).

            My kids yesterday asked me what nuns do… and before I could stop myself (not normal for me) I blurted out, “Throw their lives away.”

            I then went back and said I was only kidding and explained the whole thing and told them it is a very personal choice and etc… etc…

          • willbest

            The feminist movement was by and large a group of women that didn’t fit in to traditional woman culture. That isn’t to say there weren’t legitimate grievances, however, it seems many of today’s leading feminists would be better served as nuns.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The feminist movement was funded by the Rockefellers. They wanted women paying taxes.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But anyone that says there is definitely a God, or definitely not .. is being arrogant.
            Who is anyone to say how it all did or did not transpire? Who among us has the answers? Mormons seem like nice people, and that’s all that counts. What they beleive to get there … is irrelevant, no?

          • MB30SD

            I don’t believe any of it from any group. It’s all an agenda based system.

            I believe in love as the only true religion. Too bad it isn’t the biggest religion out there, then maybe we wouldn’t have all the Evil we do… Alas, Evil is as human as love.

            Do what you gotta do, live every minute like it’s your last, because it might be.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I have. I’ve had them mow the lawn several times. Hell I was painting my garage a few years back and they showed up. I handed them rollers and told them to join in. turned a 8 hour job by myself to under 3 hours. Thought I was going to have to suffer through the preaching but turned out we had some very good debates about religion . It was fun seeing them start questioning their beliefs. Yet they keep showing up.

          • You shouldve opened up ur robe,” i got ur lord and savior right here, ladies. Kneel.”

      • BearDown100393

        Yup sure. Or you can beat your kid in the balls with a stick.

      • evantonio

        Things God has forgiven in politicians:

        – Being an alcoholic cokehead
        – divorcing one’s cancer-stricken wife
        – frequenting a brothel while married
        – cheating on one’s wife with a guy, because dudes, he’s totally not gay
        – railing about the loss of family values while being in your third marriage

        Things God hasn’t forgiven about politicians (and a qb) :

        – catching head in the white house
        – taking a knee during the national anthem
        – catching some head

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Bears fans who hated Cutler should just hope the team doesn’t enter a 10-year quarterbackless era.”

    Damn straight, home slice. You tell’em. We’re gonna miss all those playoff appearances under Cutler. All those 4K yard seasons. All the 95+ passer rating seasons. All those sweet, almost automatic victories over the Cheese. All that stellar ball security and unmatched decision-making. All that envy-of-the-league football smarts.

    The stupid minority of Cutty haters never knew how good they had it. Idiots. Ingrates. Can’t wait to laugh in their faces and say told you fucking so.

    • MB30SD

      Boom.

      #trooffshurtssometimesbitches

      • BerwynBomber

        Low hanging fruit. But c’mon, Jeff should know better. Between his Cutler Golden Age stuff and the “cutler gone” moron who has been popping up lately lies the truth about Jay Cuter.

        Btw, didn’t Jeff issue dire offseason warnings last year about Gase? How he would be exposed as a fraud w/out Cutler’s tremendous play bailing him out?

        Maybe wait till things play out first.

        • MB30SD

          I for one am so glad cutler is gone and we’re not being held prisoner to hoping the definition of insanity will magically change *this year* any more.

          At least there’s now hope for something better

          • leftcoast dave

            Reality is the ups and downs of relying on a QB. Look where “America’s Team” has been. What have they done during that time? FIX THE TEAM. BUILD AN O-LINE. BUILD A D-FENCE.
            You git what you git when you can while assessing the risk/reward. Lots of DE’s in this draft. Is that a top need now? No, continuing to build the line remains a top priority. TTTTTTTTTT!!!!!! Gotta think we’ve got the talent in the middle three with back up to move in there if needed to cover Sitton or Long. The hope is Grassu proves out.
            Only then can you hope to have the foundation for a QB.
            I love how Glennon has already failed in the eyes of all the doubters. Give the kid a chance. Whoda thunk Kurt Warner could have ever made it after being a training camp arm in GB bagging groceries at HyVee and moving up through the arena league? See-saw? To be sure. Motivated? That’s what it takes.

          • willbest

            That defense punched above its weight last year. The offense is definitely going to be scary for the next couple years.

          • willbest

            Yes now we hold out hope that Mike Glennon was just misused and then behind future HoFer Winston so he couldn’t catch a break.

          • MB30SD

            Oh fuck!!! Glennon was the only shot we had?!?!

            We’ll never get another shot?!?! It was Cutler or glennon?!

            Shit, might as well change to an LA chargers fan.

            : /

          • willbest

            Its Cutler or Glennon for 2017. I don’t know why I should care 1 vs. the other, except that Cutler costs less money.

          • MB30SD

            And we have no idea what Glennon can do… We definitely know what cutler was capable of.

    • BearDown100393

      His leadership was an immeasurable intangible. And it shall be missed.

      • Yes i will miss the crippled D cap hobbling over to scream in the face of such hero

        • Johnnywad

          McPhee should shut his mouth until he does something to earn the right to scream at the starting QB that most every Bear outside of Brandon Marshall and Martellus Bennett have had little issue with. All he’s done in Chicago is cash checks.

          • I don’t think I’ve ever seen that before, where the d captain screams at the “franchise” QB. Even after Fitz threw 6INTs in one game, his team mates didn’t embarrass him like that on national TV.

            Can you imagine someone getting in Brady, Rivers, Roth’s face like that?

            And ppl wonder why Cutler is chilling in his cargo shorts while guys like Hoyer and McCown are studying new playbooks.

    • Revisionist facts!

    • Captain Obvious

      Wait, how many times did the Bears get into the playoffs during the Mirer/McNown/Moreno/Matthews/Krenzel/Quinn/Stewart/etc years? How many times did those QBs amass 4K yards and/or 95+ passer ratings? How many easy wins over the Favre-led Packers? Even the Majkowski Packers?

      You don’t have to suck Cutler’s cock to realize he was a lot better than most of the dreck we’ve put up with for the past 25 years. Kramer’s the only guy who compares favorably (probably better, stat-wise) to Cutler, and Miller/Orton/Sex Cannon are the only others who come close.

      Let’s face it: the Bears have had a succession of clowns at QB for almost 30 years. Just because Cutler is Bozo doesn’t make him not a clown, but it does make him a shit-ton better that Wizzo or Cookie. Or John Wayne Gacy.

      • “the Bears have had a succession of clowns at QB for almost 30 years.”

        Exactly. And Cutler was part of that long illustrious tradition. There’s a reason Pack fans are sad he’s gone.

        Being the best Bears QB is unfortunately like winning the Wisconsin Beauty Pagent.
        The girl isn’t hot just cuz she’s judged next to cows.

        Time to start a new tradition.

        • BerwynBomber

          He was a competent, flawed, average starter thru the course of his career, but yeah, saying he’s better than a bunch of guys who couldn’t even carry Hoyer’s jock hardly makes me fear the QB apocalypse that Jeff is threatening.

          Btw, do you still have that list of active/available FAs you posted a week or two ago? Was trying to find it via Google but no dice.

          • MB30SD

            We’re the Chicago bears where:

            * WRs
            * QBs
            * Safeties

            Go to die. We’ve added to the list.

          • Johnnywad

            Johnny Knox in particular looked the Grim Reaper right in the eye.

          • MB30SD

            he did indeed. no thanks.

          • If by Grim Reaper, you mean, Anus, jes.

          • Johnnywad

            They saw eye to eye.

          • I was serving that one up for trac

          • But that’s the most infuriating aspect about Cutler, that he shouldn’t just be “competent”. He has more natural talent than Cousins in one pinky (or non inj thumb), and yet Cargo is on the street while Cousins is going to get paid $100M.

            Cutler was way more talented than all those QBs ( Mirer/McNown/Moreno/Matthews/Krenzel/Quinn/Stewart/) put together, yet the results were basically the same.

            AVG to bad.

            If Cutler were some journeyman QB who didn’t take the Bears to the bank in $ and draft stock, if he were a guy like Orton or McCown, fans wouldn’t be as irate cuz those guys aren’t that talented, when Cutler was but couldn’t maximize it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Urlacher said Orton was liked. He didn’t turn the ball over and gave the defense a chance. The defense believed winning was up to them, and didn’t want the offense turning it over.

        • MB30SD

          Good analogy. And agree

  • In other news…Hankins still wants that $$$. Mo $, Mo town?

    The Lions are a potential landing spot for free agent DT Johnathan Hankins.

    The Lions haven’t been connected with Hankins, but he’s from Detroit and would give them a run-stopper next to Haloti Ngata. With just $10 million in cap space, it’s hard to see them fitting him on
    a short term deal. Hankins is targeting $8M annually. – Roto

    • Johnnywad

      “He’s from Detroit”.

      Then he should know better.

  • Yikes. I think he’s like a 4rth rder at best.

    Cal QB Davis Webb claims he was told he is a “first-round guy” by “double-digit teams.”

    “Every meeting I’ve had, they’ve said I’m one of the best quarterbacks on the board,” Webb added. Clemson’s Deshaun Watson and UNC’s Mitchell Trubisky are generally thought to be the top quarterbacks in the draft, but after that it is a bit of a mess. Notre Dame’s DeShone Kizer and Texas Tech’s PatrickMahomes, who Webb was not able tobeat out for a starting job in Lubbock, usually round out the top four, but it will not be surprising if Webb jumps one or both on draft day. – Roto

  • Buyer beware. #18 overall

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzHPP54WvUI

    Jets GM Mike Maccagnan declined to say whether the team would pick up SS Calvin Pryor’s fifth-year option for 2018.

    That means he’s probably a goner after this year. Pryor arrived in New York with huge expectations but has been a colossal bust,grading out as PFF’s No. 87 safety out of 91 qualifiers in 2016. ESPN’s
    Rich Cimini previously suggested the Jets could look to trade Pryor, but we imagine interest would be scant – roto

    • willbest

      I wanted Pryor. I will own that miss. Though they got more out of him than we did Fuller.

      • willbest

        Chandler Jones, Alec Olgetree, Calvin Pryor, Vic Beasley, Larry Tunsil, and Solomon Thomas (assuming he survives to 3)

      • I liked him coming out too, but once more, his “coverage” skills were lacking.

        That’s the thing with SS. Unless their pass coverage, instincts, INTs jump off tape like Berry, they’re just not worth a top #10 most of the time.

        I asked if TJ Ward is worth the #3 over all – I don’t think he is.

        Maybe Thomas busts, but a pass rusher just provides more return on the investment.

      • SC Dave

        I’ve only recently wanted Luke, and now Thomas. One for one so far… something about Thomas….

        But maybe Adams needs to be our guy

  • SC Dave

    Ok… no way I expected Oregon to beat Kansas.

    But its cooler than I knew… 1939 since their last Final Four. Shit, maybe there were 16 teams (at most) then? Or were there eight?

    Edit: there were 8 teams in the tourney, so one win was good for the Final Four.

    https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_NCAA_Basketball_Tournament

    • willbest

      Party ended for Xavier.

      • SC Dave

        So will, was that the first time Jesuit colleges battled go to the Final Four?

        • willbest

          I know DePaul has made the final four twice, but its been nearly 40 years

          • willbest

            Oh wait you mean each other. I can’t recall but enough of them crop up from time to time that it has probably happened

          • leftcoast dave

            Stuck ND in the same bracket with the Zags and Xavier, not that ND looked that great this tourney, nor did Xavier look like they would have taken anyone else out to get to the dance.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Kansas had AMPLE opportunity to get back into that game and could not.

    • leftcoast dave

      The jayhawk perimeter D was awesome in the second half, but their decisions on the O? Wow.

      And Jordan Bell? Dude owned the paint.

  • Irish Sweetness

    A list of individual records not held in the NFL record book.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_National_Football_League_records_(individual)#QB_Wins

    My favorite (obviously) is this one:

    Most consecutive wins, regular season and post-season, by a starting quarterback: 25, Jim McMahon, Chicago Bears, 1984–1987

    Not bad.

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