379 Comments

Across The Middle: The More Things Change, The More They Stay the Same

| September 13th, 2017

If the Chicago Bears want to sell their fans on the current regime leading the team back to glory, they better start making progress. Because last Sunday was decisively not progress. It was more of the same.

With their top two receivers out and the decision to play a terrible quarterback made, the defense has to be the center of John Fox’s sales pitch to stay in the job. What I saw last Sunday was pretty much the same thing we’ve been seeing for the last two years.

  • They can’t get turnovers.
  • They can’t get off the field on third down.
  • They start slowly.

The third bullet point is the most frustrating.

We are now 33 games into the Fox/Fangio defense. Some facts:

  • 21 times they’ve given up scores on the first two possessions.
  • 16 of those have been touchdowns!
  • In 14 of those games, they gave up scores on the first possession itself.
  • 11 of those were touchdowns!

Those rates are absolutely insane. For two defensive minds as accomplished as Fox and Fangio, how is it possible that their teams are never prepared to start games? Here’s the kicker: in games they managed to fight off their opponents until the third offensive possession, the Bears are 6-6. That’s six of the nine wins of the Fox regime.

The other two bullets are just as concerning. The Bears finished with the fifth-fewest takeaways in 2015 and tied an NFL record for the fewest in 2016. The Bears were among nine teams to not record a takeaway in Week One and, really, they only came close once.

The Bears also had the 10th-worst third down rate in Week One, which is about par for the course. They were 11th-worst last year and fourth-worst in 2015.

It’s one game, against a really good offense, but these are the same areas the Bears have struggled the last two years. Good defenses set the tone early, get off the field on third down and take the ball away. In 33 games of Fox and Fangio, they haven’t shown the ability to do any of the three.

We can’t keep blaming the players. The roster has been overhauled and they have talent with which to work. The same mistakes are being made. It’s time to take a closer look and wonder if it isn’t an inability to learn but, rather, an inability to teach.

The Great Glennon Debate

We just can’t not debate quarterbacks, can we?

What I saw from Glennon on Sunday is pretty much the same I saw from watching him in Tampa Bay. As I wrote in February, he just doesn’t get the intricacies of the position.

The Jordan Howard drop is a prime example.

Glennon was late locating Howard and then decided to take his time delivering the ball. By the time Howard had a chance at the ball he could feel a defensive back closing in. Should Howard have caught the ball? Of course. But it was thrown on the inside shoulder meaning that, even if Howard made the catch, he would’ve been facing the DB, wouldn’t have scored and likely would’ve been tackled in bounds, ending the game. Blame Howard for the drop, but that didn’t cost them the game.

You know what certainly didn’t help, 13 net passing yards on their first 15 drop backs because their quarterback kept walking into sacks.

The Glennon Gushers have set the bar so impossibly low for him. This isn’t Moses Moreno, Matt Barkley or even Brian Hoyer. This is a guy making $16 million and keeping the future of the franchise on the bench. If he isn’t able to do better than he did Sunday (spiller alert: he’s not) then he’s wasting our fucking time.

Buyer’s Remorse

The Bears could have Vic Beasley instead of another Kevin White injury. Sure, they could, but that was never going to happen.

Beasley was never going to be a Bear because Pace, Fox and Fangio want their edge players to have length. Even with Atlanta, you see them struggling to find a spot for the former eighth overall pick on running downs.

As Jay Glazer reported at the time, the Bears went into that draft hoping to get one of three players: White, Amari Cooper or Leonard Williams. If they couldn’t have taken one of those three players, Beasley wasn’t next in line. Todd Gurley was.

It doesn’t make any sense for the Bears to move on from White now. They might as well keep him and hope he can do something next year. If he does, his second contract will be reasonable. If he doesn’t, they can let him go.

Of course, with their top two receivers coming off of major injuries, they’ll have to bring in competition. Who that will be is something we have a lot of time to think about.

BRING ON THE BUCS

It’s hard to imagine what the Buccaneers are going through with Hurricane Irma right now.It was finally confirmed early Tuesday that the game will actually be played at Raymond James.

I ranted about the Bears defense being at a point where it should be winning games for the team and I think that’s what is going to happen this week. Tampa Bay is good, but Jameis Winston has a tendency to throw bad interceptions and I think the Bears offense does just enough to get a win.

Then again, I thought the Bears were going to upset the Falcons.

Tagged: , , ,

  • EnderWiggin

    I just read on reddit – “This is the FIRST time Jay Cutler has not thrown an interception in week 1 since 2008”

    • Sahr Gborie

      Can we trade to get Jay & Alshon back right now?

      • Irish Sweetness

        How about Brandon?

        • willbest

          Washed up.

    • Irish Sweetness

      See? His arrow is pointed up ….

  • Johnnywad

    This is not the same team. It’s not a great team. But it’s not the same.

    Say what you will. That Falcons team wins by five touchdowns just two and a half seasons ago.

    And “Glennon Gushers”? I have not read a single piece or post anywhere, in any format, that “gushed” over Glennon. Nobody believes he’s doing anything but keeping the seat warm while Trubisky gets his sea legs.

    It’s getting harder and harder to read this stuff. Completely turning over a roster left to rot by a decade of mismanagement takes time. And lots of it. That’s the bottom line. Anything written to the contrary is just bullshit.

    I still believe the Bears are a .500 team this year. But my faith is waning with Freeman to IR. That one hurts. It hurts far more than losing Meredith. Meredith may have been the Bears’ best WR, but he was just a very solid #2. Freeman was the heartbeat.

    • Sahr Gborie

      The Glennon Gushers are the one who are ok with Glennon being just being “fine”. His performance on Sunday was unacceptable. Forget about the money and what he was promised by Pace. Glennon has not shown in any way shape or form that he deserves or has earned the right to be the starting QB for this team.

      “Fine” is how the Bears have operated for years and that’s exactly how Glennon played… Always settling for the safe option, always “fine.”

      I’m tired of this team being just “fine”. I want to win and I want to win now. I want to take big risks and fail rather than be “fine”. How many playoff games and SB’s have we won being just fine?

      I am officially on the train to play Trubisky and let him make mistake’s and learn.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fuggit, tickets all round!

        Leaving the station! PHWEEP PHWEEEEEEP!!!

    • Nicodemus

      Jerry Angelo must have been a secret agent for the Packers they way he drafted poorly (aside from Devin Hester) and was a no-show in free agency. New management is a heck of a lot better….they’ve been assembling a good crew (although swapping out Culter for Glennon still makes no sense unless it was an expensive smoke screen to land Trubisky!). Still, when you lead the league with the number of players on IR, it’s hard to win championships….and that’s not something you can blame the coaching staff for!

      • Sahr Gborie

        change that damn field and we might have less injuries

        • CanadaBear

          According to studies commissioned by the Bears, they have less injuries on the grass field. Sounds somewhat dubious to me (are they paying to get the answer they want?). The Chicago Park District runs Soldier Field and they would like to switch over to turf.

          • willbest

            The season after Ginny dies we will know

      • Irish Sweetness

        This is my other account.

      • Scharfinator

        You can blame the strength and conditioning/training staff for a bit of it. Also, does the team provide nutritionists?

        • Nicodemus

          Yes, they do…and I read they put greater emphasis on conditioning this offseason. Of course when someone who weighs 240 pounds hits you in the side of the knee at full speed when your cleats are planted in the ground with all your weight on that leg….things usually don’t go well….

    • Irish Sweetness

      He was the only thing in the middle of that field. Last time I remember this defense having NOTHING up the middle of our D was the worst Bears defense ever. It’s coming. Just wait til Hicks gets banged up. Adam Shaheen man. Adam Shaheen.

    • leftcoastdave

      Agree with all but the .500 team. 9-7 worst case.

  • Joecashflow

    Ok, we have to wait until game 4 to see Mr. Biscuit. Because. But we have our WR#1 replacement to KW. His name is Tarik Cohen. Out of the backfield, or lining up wide, this guy can catch one handed. He’s the real deal. Check out the arms on this dude. https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/fantasy/2017/09/12/football-waiver-wire-tarik-cohen-cooper-kupp/657572001/

    The dude will get open, break tackles. I’m fine with him getting more targets.

    • Bears-4-Ever

      A team sees Cohen in the line up and they will just treat him like any other TE/WR /RB star. They will double team him and key on him. Sure he’s explosive but once the word gets out smart coaches will be able to neutralize him to an extent. One man does not make a football team.

      That being said I cannot disagree that “fine” is acceptable anymore. We Bears fans have been waiting a long time for a good, consistent, competitive, Bears Football team. We want it right now and not next year. “It’s time to take a closer look and wonder if it isn’t an inability to learn but, rather, an inability to teach.” It’s more like the inability to make the correct decisions and that starts from the very top.

      • the question to me is what will Loggains do to counter that? He has to be prepared for Bucs to focus on Cohen this week, and use him more as a diversion to open it up for other people.

        The nice thing is, that’s needed. Cohen can’t continue getting as many touches as he did last week. Needs about 2/3 of that to be sustainable.

        Part of me wonders if Bears intentionally overused him in week 1 so he would have a big game and word would get out, hoping his impact down the line would then be greater because of his ability to be a diversion. Dunno if that’s actually what happened or not, but either way now they need to prepare to maximize his impact by using him in that way.

        • Sahr Gborie

          You give them too much credit Wood. Way too much. What has this coaching staff show you to believe that they are that smart/creative?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tarik shouldn’t be allowed to walk in and take Jordan’s carries away. A few – but not take over. Then he just gets bent up.

            They should feed it more to Jordan, but have Tarik on the field too, so he’s the decoy running in a different direction. Choose your poison on D.

          • leftcoastdave

            Like the wild cat play Jordan ran for a TD?

            Next watch Tarik keep it and throw to the TE releasing into the end zone.

            I think the coaches are putting in some nice options to use with the weapons being developed.

            Being developed is the key.

            Rather like Mitchell.

            But the drumbeat will continue because this is an “I told you so” just waiting to happen, which it would have done eventually anyway.

            Rather like the Roosters taking credit for the sunrise.

          • Cohen attempted 4 passes in college, and completed 3 of them. 2 were TDs. I think the Wildcat pass attempt is coming.

            Cohen was directly asked about this on The Score yesterday, and he said he wasn’t allowed to discuss it.

          • leftcoastdave

            Isn’t it fun to talk about something positive?

          • willbest

            Irish you run 55 plays, 30 of them are passes. Howard gets none of those. 18 carries is now howards ceiling. That is the reality you have been demanding with your doubleheaded RB threat

          • Look at what Loggains did last year with a shit carousel at QB and shit WRs. I have a lot of respect for both Bears coordinators.

          • Sahr Gborie

            So what you are saying is that we need better weapons?

          • Absolutely. Nobody ever said this WR group was good, and that was BEFORE their top 2 guys went down.

            They upgraded TE weapons this offseason, added another dimension out of the backfield with Cohen, but downgraded QB. It was the right move at QB, but then you need the weapons around him to be even better, and they already weren’t good enough.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Irish said our WR group was good.

          • Irish also said Michael Ford was better than Matt Forte, didn’t he?

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            true, but you said nobody…

      • Irish Sweetness

        Plus, they’ll fuck him up. Raiders-style. We should use him as A weapon not THE weapon.

        The weapon is Mitchell.

        • Scharfinator

          Jesss

    • Irish Sweetness

      He even sounds like Jimmy from The Ringer. He is Jimmy.

      https://y.yarn.co/31a0362f-4ca3-48a4-a174-f16801d98dd3_screenshot.jpg

      • Joecashflow

        No question. I like the guy, drafted him last in my fantasy league, because I knew nobody else would take him. Starting him in wk2 as flex is a pleasant surprise. Sitting on Mr. Biscuit in a 2 QB league until wk 6 probably. Disagree that Joy Stick should get less touches. The touches should be dictated by game plan and what’s working.

  • Harry Styles

    Jeff needs a haircut. Hippie!

  • BearDown100393

    When Trubisky starts what will be left to b*tch about then?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fangio. There’s always that ball-less cock-knocker. An impostor is stealing millions from Ginny.

      • Sahr Gborie

        Would you trade Fangio for Jim Schwartz?

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d pay the water boy to call blitzes 65% of the time and let nature take its course

          • Big Mike

            Blitz drunk. 🙂

      • Joecashflow

        Why not bring Peanut in to coach up the secondary on takeaways ? This is getting rediculous. Ever notice when there is a sack strip, Bears don’t get it but Pack usually recover their own.

  • I don’t disagree with your overall point about the defense struggling on the first possession under these coaches, but I can’t help but wonder when I look back at the first drive on Sunday.

    On the 2nd play of the game, Kyle Fuller made a sure tackle to stop the WR a good 1 to 1.5 yards short of the 1st down. Somehow the officials marked it a 1st down, and John Fox didn’t challenge.

    It should have been 3rd and 1, the exact same scenario Atlanta faced later in the drive. They tried a run that was stuffed and kicked a field goal. I can’t help but think that was Atlanta’s go-to call for the first 3rd and short of the game. If that happens 60 yards back down the field, Atlanta’s first drive is a 3 and out where they’re punting out of their own end zone, meaning the Bears start with great field position.

    Who knows if that changes anything in the game or not. Maybe they pick up the 1st down. I certainly would have liked to see the Bears get the chance at a 3rd down stop that they rightfully earned.

    • beninnorcal

      That call really bugged me. Terrible.

    • Joecashflow

      There has to an assistant coach assigned to watch ball placement. That pisses me off. Shows lack of building a functional organization. No surprise there. I am not a Fox fan.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’m finding it hard to give any good reason for continuing to play Glennon. I was so impressed with Mitch’s decision-making and accuracy during pre-season (both unrelated to level of opposition – and his receivers were lower life forms too), that I’d just like to see him in action and be wowed like that again (his first game anyway). I don’t doubt he would have won the Atlanta game.

    And I’m glad there’s two of us in the Anti-Fangio dinghy. It was getting lonely.

    Having an intentionally toothless defense because of some misguided philosophy – or lack thereof – has not only the result of a useless, rudderless and tired defense … but it puts more pressure on the offense. Dropping more people into coverage isn’t a good idea if they can’t cover. No pass rush let’s the offense take all day to pick on bad DBs/LBs. Their run game has a field day once that’s opened up. Does it really have to be argued that putting an offense under pressure is a good thing on defense?

    Fangio has been killing this team since he got here. Whatever his philosophy is, it doesn’t work. Defense starts and ends with pressure. Vic Fangio doesn’t get that.

    • Big Mike

      Defense played well Irish. The Falcons averaged over 30 pts per game last year. 1 blown assignment cost the game. To the extent that is on Fangio, we won’t know. DId he get the call in on time? A timeout certainly was in order.

      Look at the team he is constructing and how players are improving. That’s coaching. Until our secondary is more proven, blitzing against a QB like Matt Ryan, Stafford, Rodgers etc is sure death.

      I’m sick of the Glennon bashing. It’s such a knee jerk reaction to a promising rookie QB. Who is in a better position to know if he’s ready? The coaching staff or bunch of fans? They aren’t stupid. Normally I’m all in with Andrew’s commentary, but he’s sipped the kool aid that Glennon is awful. He’s judging him on ball placement being 6 inches behind the exact spot that it should be in. Howard was his 3rd option on that play.

      • BearDown100393

        DBB is moving t-shirts riding on Mitch.

        • Big Mike

          I guess we need to bitch about whatever. I prefer to break down the play of the guys the coaches have playing, rather than day dreaming about the guys on the bench.

          • BearDown100393

            Agreed.

    • Joecashflow

      Interesting to note that 2 other rookie QBs played in Wk1. Mahomes did not. No deaths were reported.

  • Big Mike

    This used to be a space for well informed discussion about the Bears. Doesn’t seem to be happening anymore.

    • Scharfinator

      QQ

      • Big Mike

        I don’t know what QQ is.

        • willbest

          The circle represents your eyes and the ‘ mark on them represent your tears. It’s a gamer term.

          • Big Mike

            So is that good or bad 🙂

          • willbest

            He called you whiney

          • Big Mike

            Ha. No that’s not it. I’m a loyalist. I believe in the GM and the coaching staff. I buy into their philosophy. If you do that, you have to realize they know a lot more about the game then we do. Trubisky is on the bench for very good reasons. Trubisky will have higher highs, and lower lows. Bears staff doesn’t want that right now. I’m more concerned about trying to win with practice squad wide receivers. If anything the “start mitch now” group is the whiney group.

          • Sahr Gborie

            I respect what you are saying Mike. They know more about MT than us. But Glennon is stinking up the place man. Give me Josh McCowan please.

          • Big Mike

            He’s not. As inaccurate as it may be, his QB rating was 83. If howard makes that catch and scores, it’s in the mid 90s.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            QB rating is not a very good stat to be trying to prove a point. It has its issues. ESPN tried to improve with QBR which takes more into account, but even that still has issues. ESPN QBR was something like 32 for Glennon – not good.

          • Big Mike

            I recognized that in my comment, but it is widely used and QBs are measured by it regularly. The knock is it over values short completions and stats in garbage time. Glennon didn’t put up yardage in garbage time, but he did accumulate a high completion % based on short yardage.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            all he threw was short yardage, you should have high completion % when you only throw the ball 3 yards.

            Brandon Weeden played a few games with Dallas a couple years ago had a Completion % in the 70s and a Rating in the 90s. That did not mean he was any good.

          • willbest

            Makes sense to me. I have never seen Halas hall, the Walter Payton center or anything that goes on in it.

            I will say Fox should have moved to Howard sooner but that is because he did crazy things with the 3-4 carries he got while Langford was resting.

          • Big Mike

            For coaches there is a natural inclination to make a guy really win the job. Not by a little, but by a clear margin. A coach that demotes a player too soon, won’t coach in the league very long. Howard’s stone hands didn’t help him.

          • Scharfinator

            “This used to be a space for well informed discussion about the Bears. Doesn’t seem to be happening anymore.” This is just the whiney bit. I appreciate the thought out posts, like the one I’m directly responding to now 🙂

          • Big Mike

            Ok, that was bit whiney. Came to the blog looking for some insights. Saw the same type of comments as you see at ESPN or hear on the Score.

    • CanadaBear

      It’s all about MT around here these days. You and I both look at that the same way. The coaches see these guys everyday and will put in MT when they feel he’s ready. They will be conservative with that decision. Partly because Foxy is conservative and partly because once they switch there’s no going back without the team being divided and two QB’s being left in the lurch. Not a great scenario.

      • Sahr Gborie

        I find it hard to believe that anyone on that roster truly believe that Glennon gives them the best chance to win. If they do I want some of that Kool Aid.

        Glennon looks/plays like he is expecting the worst to happen so he plays it safe while the kid is taking every chance given to him hoping to make something happen. Sometimes the risk will be worth it and other times it will hurt but at least he tries. Glennon just keeps standing in the same spot not moving.

        I think Fox fails to realize that Glennon does not play in a bubble. There are other QB’s out there much better than him. Fox stands a better chance of keeping his job wit Trubisky than with Glennon. Glennon will get him fired at the end of the season if not at the bye week.

        • willbest

          Those people see Mitch in practice more than Jeff. One would assume if you were correct there would be leaks.

          • Sahr Gborie

            I will take potential of Mitch over the reality of Glennon

          • willbest

            Given Fox needs to put 10 wins on the board to keep his job I either have to assume he wants to be fired or glennon is the better QB

          • CanadaBear

            With the way the injuries are pouring in again, I think if Foxy gets to .500 he stays. I’m still sticking with the 5-win prediction.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Fox is gone at .500 depending on how bad the losses are regardless of injury

          • CanadaBear

            And you know this how?

          • leftcoastdave

            9-7.

      • Big Mike

        We just took the NFC Champions down to the wire. That’s cause for praise and hope. Not our QB sucks because a professional running back can’t catch a ball not thrown perfectly. Glennon had some very well placed throws. He missed on a couple. Didn’t push the ball downfield, but avoided turnovers. You want the ball pushed downfield and a QB who is mobile in the pocket. We had him. His name was Jay Cutler.

        Fox might be conservative, but he knows he needs wins. 1 pt wins will do. I can hear it now. Bears beat Tampa by a field goal or something and people are still pissed because Trubisky would have made it a blow out. Man, the only news here is the Bears were fun to watch and competitive, arrows up, wins will start showing up.

        • leftcoastdave

          Arm chair quarterbacks, arm chair coaches, arm chair GMs. Woulda, coulda, shoulda followed by “see, I told you so.” Broken arms from back patting.

          It was a great game. The D line was gassed with the absence of Bullard and should own TB. The CB’s were the best we’ve seen in years and only because of one breakdown between LB and FS the game was lost to a great team.

          Rome was not built . . . , oh, forget it.

          • Big Mike

            Where was Bullard? Great commentary. The chattering class loves to argue.

          • leftcoastdave

            Buttox strain. Surprised we did not see more from RRH. He did bat one ball down, but Bullard has been a monster where Unrein (sp) just amazingly adequate.

          • Big Mike

            Is he due back for week 2? He’s one of my rising stars for this year.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Why are you just making excuses for mediocrity?
          1. Not our QB sucks because a professional running back can’t catch a ball not thrown perfectly. – This is not to make excuses for Howard dropping the ball. Its the QB’s job to make things happen. That’s why they get all the glory. Glenno should have stepped into the pocket and thrown the ball earlier.
          2. Glennon had some very well placed throws. He missed on a couple. – “Very well placed throws” are what the job requires. Am I supposed to give him a cookie for doing his job?
          3. Didn’t push the ball downfield, but avoided turnovers. – This is the most egregious excuse of all. That’s John Fox talking – translation: “play it safe”. If you don’t push the ball down field you will always lose.

          • CanadaBear

            “If you don’t push the ball down field you will always lose.”

            Wow! And you’re not the HC! Unbelievable.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Good teams push the ball down field. They take chances.

          • willbest

            Rodgers hit a d-lineman in the chest with the football, even future HoFers throw a couple bad ones. Brady was sloppy, and last year’s MVP was gifted a drop INT.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Glennon prays to be as good as them on their worst day

          • Big Mike

            And it’s your theory that Fox is ok with losing. That they don’t know they need to push the ball downfield. While they have JV WRs. That’s the best thing to do. You do realize that Howard was his third read on that dropped ball and it was off by about 6 inches.

          • Sahr Gborie

            It seems like he is. A good QB makes chicken salad out of chicken scraps.

            MT is going to lose some games. But at least he will do so trying.

          • leftcoastdave

            Seems.

          • Big Mike

            Trubisky is not that guy yet. “seems like he is” is an observation. But just focus on the reality of being an NFL Head Coach. These guys have scrapped to the top of the heap in a world of alphas. None of them likes losing, or wants to lose at anything. You know that.

          • SC Dave

            Stop writing such stupid shit, ease.

          • Joecashflow

            Must be your room, your rules, your football, huh? Atta boy. Way to shut down a guy.

        • BearDown100393

          “Bears beat Tampa by a field goal or something and people are still pissed because Trubisky would have made it a blow out.”

          • BearDown100393

            Nailed it

        • Johnnywad

          Said it better than I could.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Our QB does not suck because a professional rb can’t catch. go rewatch the 1st 3 quarters of the game, and you should be able to find plenty of reasons our QB sucks.

          • Big Mike

            Play calling? We knew he wasn’t an elite guy. When we called for cutlers head we wanted safe.
            Mike

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            The best play calling in the world does not matter if your QB doesn’t even attempt or look at plays down field (something over 3 yards). AD tweeted that after reviewing All 22 that there were plays to be made downfield the QB just did not look.

            As far as cutty, most of us just wanted him to quit throwing the stupid INTs into triple coverage, that does not equate to safe. I butcher Hoyer last year for playing it safe. Just make the plays Professional QBs should make.

          • Big Mike

            I’m done with the QB debate. Glennon’s our QB right now. I’m not bashing him. Looking for the positives. I looked at the all 22 on NFL Game Pass. I saw what Andrew did. These were not all clear cut throws. Cutler would have thrown all of them, but we know he was reckless. He’d have completed a fair number, but been picked twice. I’m excited about this squad.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            ah the ‘Screw you guys, I’m going home’ response. I usually respect your opinion, and I understand your loyalist position and not wanting to bash Glennon. I am fine with that, but you started this by saying that we were not having well informed discussions. As a fan, I expect more from the most important position on the field. You seem to equate that anyone that criticizing Glennon is wrong for doing so and wants MT to start. But our options right now is Sanchez or MT. I don’t care, start Sanchez then, I have seen enough of Glennon. Sanchez can’t be any worse. Glennon hasn’t changed from is days in TB, but maybe my going back and watching his play in TB and watching his quick checkdowns on Sunday does not make me informed enough to make any comments.

          • Big Mike

            Didn’t say I was going home. Done with the QB Debate. Discussion still isn’t well informed. Criticism of Glennon is fine, but “he sucks” isn’t really criticism. He doesn’t move well in the pocket is criticism, ball placement is criticism. He has improved since TB. His read progression and knowledge of defenses is greatly improved. He led a drive to put the Bears in scoring position against the NFC champs and did his part to win the game. I venture a guess that if Trubisky, had done that, wouldn’t we be jacked up When Barkley led a similar drive against the Texans, we were all thinking we had something.

            I’m all for evaluating Glennon based on what he does. I’m also all pumped about Trubisky.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Evidently you have not been keeping up on the criticism many of us have had on Glennon throughout the preseason/year. I am not the only one that has said multiple times in previous threads,

            1. Does not have good pocket presence
            2. Inaccurate passing even on short throws.
            3. at times stares down receivers.
            4. too quick to checkdown at times.
            5. fairly long delivery.
            6. slow through his progressions.
            7. appears to not trust his arm enough.
            8. can not make all the throws. – I don’t believe I have seen him throw an out to the sideline yet.
            9. not mobile
            10. Collapses under pressure when play breaks down.

            So yeah, I have been known to just say ‘he sucks’ because I had already gone through the list on multiple occasions, and it gets old typing the same thing over and over again.

            BTW 1 or 2 drives don’t make a QB. I have said this before I would criticize any QB that had such a poor overall game.

          • Joecashflow

            I don’t think we wanted safe, we wanted a strong arm and yes, better decisons.

    • King of DBB

      Everybody is so uptight, maaaan.

  • CanadaBear

    So now anyone that backs the coaching staff is a Glennon Gusher? And somehow Andrew knows Howard wouldn’t have scored if he caught the ball. Sounds like a MT gusher to me.

    • Scharfinator

      Everyone’s gushing all over the place. GROSS

    • Sahr Gborie

      It’s not about gushing for MT. This team can contend with a good QB. Glennon is not a good QB. He is not even a mediocre QB.

      He does nothing to put this team in a position to win.

      The team puts Glennon in a position to win.

      • beninnorcal

        He’s not even a mediocre qb? C’mon, man.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          SMH. You actually watched the game and came away thinking he is anything but less than mediocre?

          • beninnorcal

            HBP, I never said anything of the sort. I was responding to the comment above that said he wasn’t even a mediocre qb. I don’t think he’s a good qb, but I could argue that he’s mediocre, at the very least.
            Your reaction is the perfect example of what I said above:
            Me: ‘I don’t think Glennon’s terrible’
            Everyone else: ‘stop comparing him to Rodgers and Brady, Ben’

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            and I could easily argue that he is less than mediocre. I am pretty sure no one was expecting a Rodgers/Brady/Ben level performance from Glennon. However I am pretty sure a lot of us were expecting something better than Hoyer, and he has not shown he is even as good as him.

          • willbest

            Week 1 stat lines beg to differ.

          • SC Dave

            He is not interested in facts, will.

          • beninnorcal

            I’d take the bet that he’s better than Hoyer by season’s end.

      • SC Dave

        Stop saying such stupid shit, please.

    • beninnorcal

      Completely agree on both points, Canada.
      I’ve said previously, several times, that Howard may have not even scored there, but we’ll never know because he didn’t make that catch.

      As far as Glennon, I hope for the best because I know we won’t see Mitch for awhile. I also don’t think Glennon is terrible. So I guess I’m his biggest fan around these parts.

      • CanadaBear

        That pretty much qualifies as his biggest fan (other than Mrs. Giraffe). There’s no doubt in my mind that MT will be better than MG when he’s ready to play. I think the coaching staff has the best handle on when that will be.

  • willbest

    Why the shit would any team gamble on White, he needs an all pro performance next year to not be in a vet min deal

    • Sahr Gborie

      White had potential. Injuries killed his potential. Time to move on. Keep him on a vet min deal.

      • willbest

        White is a great blocker, a crappy route runner, and with average hands and speed. That is not potential

        • Scharfinator

          Isn’t that what he’s saying? Injuries ruined any potential he had, resulting in what White is now.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Thank you Sir

          • CanadaBear

            I guess but if he can’t last more than 5 games out of 33 at WR, how is he going to last at TE? It’s like all those suggestions to move Peanut to S. Safety and TE are two of the most injured positions on the field. Peanut wouldn’t have lasted more than a handful of games at S.

        • Sahr Gborie

          Make him a TE

          • CanadaBear

            Other than the fact that he’s about 30-40 lbs too small, TE is one of the most injured positions on the field.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Every human being on Earth has potential. One of the more meaningless words in the English language. Find me a hard worker.

    • a vet min deal is what a gamble looks like. Give a guy a shot for cheap, cut him in the likely event it doesn’t work out, but maybe you get lucky.

      • willbest

        He called it an affordable second contract as if it wouldn’t be a 1 year vet min. Something along the lines of what Wheaton got.

        I honestly don’t know where the infinite patience for White comes from. Glennon has done more for this team than White has and yet he is hated.

        • Sahr Gborie

          1st draft pick by Pace is the reason for patience

          • willbest

            CD didn’t get it

        • Scharfinator

          I’m with you there. White can’t hold up to NFL ball. Get him gone.

        • here’s what I do with White if I’m Chicago: treat him next year like they did Kyle Fuller this year.

          His contract is fully guaranteed, and he has physical skills, so at least bring him to camp. He’s worth a spot on your 90 man roster.

          But you treat him like you would somebody you sign to a futures contract off the practice squad at the end of the season. You want him around, but you’re not counting on him. Thus in the offseason you make the necessary moves to replace him.

          Maybe it works out, like with Fuller this year, and he ends up playing a role next year. But if that happens, he has to EARN it. No more handing him starting spots just because of his draft status. He’s fighting for a roster spot alongside every UDFA rookie.

          • willbest

            I don’t even want White around. When healthy, he is a less talented Maquiss Wilson. Plus if he gets injured in camp he is back on IR. So what? you owe him the money anyway right? We gave him a large bonus if we cut him he goes to waivers and maybe somebody picks him up. If he clears and signs well you get offsetting.

          • I don’t actually know if offsetting is in the contract or not. But it’s not about the money at this point. It’s about a risk-free shot with him on the 90 man roster.

          • Irish Sweetness

            here’s what I do with White if I’m Chicago:

            KICK. HIS. ASS. TO. THE. KERB.

    • CanadaBear

      He’s got a guaranteed contract for next year.

      • willbest

        And it will be better for the team to pay him to play elsewhere

        • CanadaBear

          If you have to pay him, why not keep him around as a #5? If he comes around, awesome. If not, you weren’t counting on him anyway.

          • willbest

            Because I expect my #5 WR to be competing with my CB #5 as the best gunner on the team.

          • CanadaBear

            Maybe that’s the #4 or #6 WR!

          • willbest

            #6 is handling returns. And considering its the Bears #4 is going to see the field since #1,2 and/or 3 is going to miss at least 8 games.

          • CanadaBear

            Kinda reminds me of Columbo when he couldn’t stay healthy. He goes to Dallas and has about 5 healthy years in a row. Not to mention it was his leg whip that led to Tommie’s physical downfall.

    • SC Dave

      How can you be a vet without playing?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Next year?? Damn, I’d cut him as soon as I heard. Why would we keep him? Are we that battered housewife? Really?

      Go on now, go, walk out the door
      Just turn around now
      ‘Cause you’re not welcome anymore

      And Gloria Gaynor knows football.

  • 505Bears

    Mark it down. Bears win this week. Glennon throws 2 TDs, one to Gentry…Defense steps up with a funble recovery and pick….That Winston MVP talk is squashed…Wishful thinking, yeah?! haha

    • CanadaBear

      I like it!!!!!!!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hmm.

      Would love to see it, BUT…

      “Homecomings” have been unkind to players so far this season.

      Eddie Lacy returns to Green Bay: 5 carries, 3 yards.

      AP returns to Minny: 6 carries, 18 yards and a confrontation with his HC.

      • beninnorcal

        Time to break that trend.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Please…?

  • Scharfinator

    Wow, Brian has been out of the league 5 years already. Time sure flies.

    • CanadaBear

      Not to put too fine of a point on it but it will be 5 years when they vote next summer.

    • BearDown100393

      54 forever.

      • Big Mike

        So I finished my chores on Sunday, was going to my closet to get a Bears Jersey. My choices were former Bears (22, 6, 17), Injured Bears (75) or retired Bears (51,54) The retired Bears Jerseys are very old. But I went with 54. I’m thinking about Akiem Hicks 96. Long term deal, nice big number. Who would you go with?

        • CanadaBear

          Never owned a jersey but if I did it would be Butkus, Sayers, Payton in that order. On the current team, it would be Kyle if he was healthier. Hicks sounds like a good fall back plan. Pretty sure #10 will be the leader in Bears jersey sales.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I have exactly ONE jersey. #51. It was a gift. It comes out once or twice a season, maybe.

          • CanadaBear

            Love it! My nephew had a Butkus jersey that was made out of wool. He paid a fortune for it but it was awesome.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I also have Sayers, McMahon and Butkus (2) Starting Lineup figures on a shelf. and a truckload of t-shirts and caps (some of which pre-date many bloggers here) and all kinds of other Bear gigaws, including a Bears Mr. Potato Head, who I call “Abe”.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t have anything like that. I’m not really much of a collector other than music and bicycles. I love “Abe”!

          • AlbertInTucson

            I have WAY too much crap.

            Music, DVDs, board games, trains.

            It’s bordering on hoarding now.

          • CanadaBear

            Is your wife up for Sainthood? I keep all of my crap in my 70’s man cave and my bicycling related stuff is in a small room (my brother-in-law is 20 years younger and calls it my bike museum).

          • AlbertInTucson

            I have the 3rd bedroom. Half the closet is O guage trains.

            Oh, and there’s movie posters and lobby cards all over.

            Blackhawks & Sox stuff, including my Luis Aparicio autograph.

            And my elipitcal trainer..

          • CanadaBear

            Sainthood for sure!!!!!!!!

          • AlbertInTucson

            She has the shoe market cornered so we’re even.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Sign in our bedroom: “Helping the economy. One shoe at a time.”

          • AlbertInTucson

            The resemblance is uncanny.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Mine’s a mesh. Kind of warm to wear most of the year here in the desert.

          • CanadaBear

            My nephew’s would have been a poor choice for you. 3/4 sleeves and fairly thick wool.

          • AlbertInTucson

            We’re still clicking triple digits here. 105 yesterday.

            September average for 100+ is 7.

            We’re had 9 so far.

            I WAS gonna wear the Butkus Jersey to the bar for the opener but, thought better of it and just went with one of my plethora of short-sleeved Bears Ts.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Did his granma knit for him? MWAH!

          • CanadaBear

            That would have been my mother. She never knitted anything in her life.

          • Big Mike

            My Sayer’s jersey died. No Urlacher.. Interesting. So you’re the guy without a 54. Back in his hey day I think it was 06. Went to a game easily a third of the crowd had on 54 jerseys. Not buying a rookie QB jersey, ever.

          • CanadaBear

            You know me, super cheap when it comes to the Beloved. The only schwag I have is a knockoff short sleeved sweatshirt, a hat from a beer company and a stocking cap that’s about 45 years-old.

          • beninnorcal

            Maybe you’ll buy a 10 after a few years though. Who knows?

          • Big Mike

            After his rookie contract.

          • beninnorcal

            We’ll see, lol

          • Irish Sweetness

            If that witch is still alive he won’t see a second contract from us.

          • Big Mike

            That’s not true. There’s nothing that indicates the Bears are cheap.

          • Irish Sweetness

            (spits out coffee and falls backwards off chair)

        • BearDown100393

          I own one. #54. Blue.

        • I’d go with a Payton. That’s my go-to.

          • Big Mike

            A classic. One I’ve never owned

            Mike

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            Find a 22 johnny bailey jersey

        • Bender McLugh

          #40 without a name. Old School Cool.

        • SC Dave

          Coolest would be a throwback #7. With no name, of course.

          • Big Mike

            Bob Avellini?

        • Irish Sweetness

          #34

          I have two HUGE replica Walter jerseys that I’ve had wrapped up for years because I can’t find frames big enough to put them in.

          Aside: you Americans are fat bastards.

          • Big Mike

            I thought we’d get a 9 from you, Irish 🙂

  • CanadaBear

    Not sure if this is the complete list for the Beloved but 5 first-ballot HOF’ers; Butkus, Sayers, Singletary, Walter and oddly enough George Blanda.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Last night I stepped outside of the bar to grab a smoke. 4 young guys mid 20s came up and asked if they could get a cig. Each offered a quarter. I said sure. I give the 1st guy a cig and he hands over one of the worst quarters imaginable, corroded, dirty, oily etc. 2nd and 3rd guy same thing. 4th guy hands me a quarter which by comparison looked pretty good, it was a few years old but the shine was off. We were sitting around talking and all the while I was looking at these crappy quarters in my hand, they were so disgusting I decided to give them back. I went up to the first guy and hand it to him and said ‘I don’t want this, you can have your crappy disgusting quarter back.’ I followed up and said the same to the 2nd and 3rd guy. That left we with this average looking quarter. I thought considering what I just saw that maybe I should keep it. Then I thought, shit why would I want this crappy quarter when I deserve a shiny new quarter thats never been used. So I hand the 4th guy his quarter, and say ‘After much thought I really can’t accept such low quality, so you can have this quarter back also.’

    I know what some of you are going to say ‘Man you gave up money’. Sometimes things are just so bad that it is just not worth keeping. So what if I lost a little money on the deal. I deserve better.

    • AlbertInTucson

      It was the long way around the barn for that pun.

      • CanadaBear

        A very long way. I know a few that have puns for punchlines. My favorite is about the porpoises.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          not sure what you guys are referring too. I don’t live a very exciting life so I found it to be an interesting chain of events. Just trying to share without stepping into the QB debate.

    • Corporal Clott

      “I deserve better.”

      That’s debatable you miserable little worm. How dare you expect a professional football team to give you better. Hmpf…

    • Irish Sweetness

      How much are 20 cigs of what you smoke?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        $7

  • beninnorcal

    This is a whole new AD, never read this fiery and angry side.

    • CanadaBear

      Just pick him apart a little bit. He gets snarky really easy.

      • beninnorcal

        Usually he’s the opposite. He’s usually all ‘glass half full’

      • willbest

        Its hard to tell him and Jeff apart this year. When he first started his wednesday column I felt he added a new flavor to DaBlog.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    So….. Cohen looks pretty good.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Andrew Dannehy‏ @ChiBearsAD
    Just took a quick look at the All 22. There were plays to be made down the field, the QB just never looked.

    I was curious about that. Too many quick checkdowns not to have something downfield open.

    • Corporal Clott

      Yonny was all over this during the game.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But Hoyer got BJs on this blog …

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        not from me.

  • Corporal Clott

    The first part of Andrews post is understable frustration. Let’s face it, Fox and Co. had dogshit to work with on the roster when they took over the team. White is 100% on Pace, period. Also, a weak showing in FA is 100% on Pace and Co. I’m not gonna knock them for not winning with the players they had when they got to town but it’s looking pretty much like they’ve accomplished fuck all since they got to Chicago.

    • Sahr Gborie

      White is 100% on Pace, period. – There was no sign of injury before the draft. How do you predict an injury.

      Also, a weak showing in FA is 100% on Pace and Co.- Yes that is all on Pace. He fumbled the ball.

      They have a team right now that can compete even with the lack of WR’s. A good QB (Rodgers/Brady…you name them) would make this team look better than they are.

      • Corporal Clott

        The choice to draft a WR in the 1st round was a bad football decision. What we desperately needed was a starter in the trenches on either side of the ball or in the defensive backfield. I could give a rip about injuries, they happen. Looking at this teams needs over the last 2 years, it’s a joke that Pace went after a WR with his first pick. It’s sand lot stuff my man. Picking a WR that year was a luxury pic teams make when they’re getting close to putting the pie in the oven. It shows a tone deaf ear to the real situation he was facing.

        • Sahr Gborie

          I agree with you. I never wanted K.White. I was on the Vic Beasley boat. Defense first. But i get that Pace wanted to put weapons around Cutty. If you cant get rid of Cutty then you help him as best as you can. Its a shame it never worked out.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            Agreed. Also Pace knew Marshall was out the door and I am sure he had inklings that Jeffery would be hard to resign. It was not the right move but it was a position that needed to eventually be addressed.

          • Sahr Gborie

            Yeah it needed to be addressed but not right out the gate. He could have gone for the the trenches (Tackle). Here are the players picked after K.White
            Giants – Eric Flowers (OT), Miami – DeVante Parker (WR), Chargers – Melvin Gordon (RB), 49ers – Arik Armstead (DE), Broncos – Shane Ray (DE).

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          agreed. but if he did not have all the injuries and turned out to be a Green or Jones type, not many would care right now.

        • SC Dave

          Any player, regardless of position, could have flamed out.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    I feel for Jeff, I really do. He is as frustrated now as I was for years when we refused at first and then were simply unable to stack quality pieces around Cutler. If we had running games we had no receivers, if we had receivers we had no O line, if we had receivers and a decent O line we had the worst D in franchise history. I mean, what in the fuck.

    Now it’s the fucking injuries and the refusal to play the best QB. This rebuild is going to require a 2012 Seahawks draft and FA class in order to right the ship.

    The good news is that betting against Indianapolis and Cleveland and uhh…..coughChicagocough will make me a lot of money this year.

    That, and the Dolphins going to the superbowl with JC at the helm.

    • Sahr Gborie

      I can relate to your frustration cus this is what the Bears do. They want to do just “fine”. They never want to go above and beyond. We need two things to win next year: 1. Pace needs to go all out in FA…show them the money and 2. We need a new Coach (Harbaugh)

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        The frustration is that when they did finally try to address the issues they never did it correctly.
        They drafted high on OL and fucking missed on BOTH Williams and Carimi.
        They brought in Pep annnnnnnnnnnd two useless offensive players in Taylor and Manumanumanmanu. They ditched Olsen. They drafted Ced Ben when we had Jones (even though I thought Benson was going to be epic)
        They brought in has been safeties and never pushed all of the chips to the middle. They whiffed on Fuller fucking HARD. They whiffed on ChickenDinner. They whiffed on White at WR with the 7th pick.
        Don’t even get me started on the mid and late round picks that rarely panned out.
        I mean, I don’t want to depress anyone but what the fuck is going on?

        • CanadaBear

          If you’re a Bears fan it’s called business as usual.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Where’s Jim Finks when you need him.

            I know.

            Passed away.

            Bears O pissed him off anyway.

          • Sahr Gborie

            “Business as Usual” – this is why some of us are so upset with Glennon. He is exactly that “business as usual”..never going above and beyond. Just doing enough.

            Im sick and tired of just doing enough. The FA QB class was not great but damn man. Try something the resembles success because Glennon sure wasn’t it.

            You could have kept Cutler and no one would have thought that we were interested in a QB if Pace would have sold us on it like it tried to and successfully did with Glennon until he played this weekend

        • Sahr Gborie

          Angelo did not know how to drat. Pace has had 3 drafts so far and right now 2 out of 3 aint bad. Soon it will be 3 out of 4 after this season I hope

        • Bender McLugh

          Compare it to NE’s drafting, they’ve had their share of whiffs as well.

          • Sahr Gborie

            But NE spends the money and the draft capital to get the players they want. Look at the trade for Kon Elay from Carolina

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            the same Ealy that they cut? they took a chance and it did not work out for them either.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            I knew it was you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
            Ha, you’re back!

          • Corporal Clott

            Nope, he hasn’t mentioned titties once.

        • Corporal Clott

          Bingo!!! I’m actually more down on their smarts than you are. A WR at #7 after Pace arrived? That one still hurts.

        • BerwynBomber

          I’m still not giving up on Fuller. He shows me enough to think the pick could rate out as average, if nothing else.

    • Corporal Clott

      What about the rest of us? Fack yonny, I never saw you as an elitest swine before. Where’s our cutty love?

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        I’ll be eating sushi and watching my Dolphins and sipping chilled Pinot Grigio as the Dolphins go 11-5 and meet the Steelers in the AFC Championship Game.

        • Corporal Clott

          Hahaha….. Bastardo.

    • BerwynBomber

      But most QBs, even HoF ones, are rarely gifted completely well-rounded teams. Look at the shit-storm D Brees inherits most every year. Or the fact that Rodgers Era Cheese D’s have given up, on average, 36 points in their post-season losses.

      Even Brady is sometimes asked to make chicken salad with sketchy receiving corps. (though the true master chef in NE is Belichick.)

      I think MIA has a pretty well-rounded team, so if Jay plays well they will put fear into a lot of teams. (Plus, I’m a fan of Gase and think we will regret not booting Fox and handing over Halas Hall to him a couple of off-seasons ago.)

      Plus, that division is pretty lousy at the moment. NYJ are in full tank mode and who knows what Buffalo is trying to accomplish.

      • willbest

        Its no secret that the years that Rodgers and Brees got theirs the year those D’s were above average.

        Yeah those guys are called on to make something happen, but even they aren’t successful week in and week out. In a Rodger’s playoff loss, his opponents score an average of 32 points. Elite QB’s get you into the playoffs. Problem is 6 or 7 elite QB’s are in the playoffs (the usual ones plus the ones having a great year). So you are going to see 2-3 of them on your way to the Lombardi trophy.

        And don’t think this is an excuse for Cutler. He had what he needed in 2010, and he tore his MCL in the NFCC and again in 2011 when he broke his throwing thumb. Were they perfect teams? No. Nobody gets perfect teams. But since 2011 the Bears have failed to have anything that resembles a playoff worthy team

        • BerwynBomber

          I actually think it is 36 points, but either way, it would make them the worst D in the league in terms of points allowed per game almost every year in the NFL.

          I would argue the ’13 team had enough to be a playoff team. Cutty/McCown played well, the OLine was decent, and we had arguably the best set of skill guys in the entire league. I believe we had the highest scoring O in the NFC that year.

          The D was obviously slipping but wasn’t historically bad (as it would be the following season). And it still had a couple/few playmakers on it.

          But Rodgers stole the division crown from us in the waning seconds and that was that.

          • willbest

            Second highest offense. Peyton Manning drank from the fountain of youth that year and had 55 TDs or something. Also, the Bears were 31st allowing 29.9 ppg that year. Our D actually improved in that category in 2014 by only allowing 27.6 ppg (although still ranked 31st)

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair enough. Maybe we were scoring so many points I had forgotten how many we yielded.

            Of course the other wrinkle to that season was McClellin lucking into the most meaningful defensive play in decades. Without it, we would have been fighting only for the WC (instead of the division).

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            oh no my friend, it was indeed a historically bad season, see below from some nerd:

            The Bears’ defense slogged through a historically bad season: they ranked dead last according to numberFire’s rush defense metrics, some 60% behind the 31st-ranked Chargers.

            Their run D ended up as the worst ever on a per rush basis since 2000, and the second-worst from a cumulative perspective.

            Other rushing categories they finished poorly in, yards allowed (32nd), fantasy points allowed (32nd), rushing touchdowns allowed (31st), and to top it off, they allowed 5.3 yards per rush when the 31st-ranked team (Atlanta) allowed 4.8 per.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yup, my bad. Though looking back at the #s our pass D wasn’t bad (15th in yards). But yeah we got gashed in the run game.

            #MelTucker

        • Irish Sweetness

          And the Saints D was aggressive!!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Easy up, dawg. I’ll take another set of top picks …

  • Buckle up. This may be long, but X and Os

    I’ve been thinking about this for a while, since about last season when I would watch passes zip by the earholes of our CBs while they helplessly flail their arms about.

    Playing a lil CB back in my day, the “trail tech” which Fangio supposedly preaches goes something like this.

    You jam the fuck out the WR (usually about 4 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier), try to re-route him, then flip and run hip-to-hip with him looking at his eyes going 100MPH. When you catch his eyes through his facemask enlarge, you put your hands up immediately and whip your head to presumably see the ball coming, at which point, you’re expected to locate the ball whizzing in about a half-second to knock it down, all while running full speed, and oh yeah, battling a guy about 4 inches taller and 30 pounds heavier, who is usually the best athlete and can prolly 360 dunk it.

    Now, try intercepting that.

    This is why the Patrick Petersons of the NFL get PAID. Not many can do this on a consistent basis. I put it right up there with those Tibetan Monks not freezing while they meditate atop the Himalayas.

    Now ask yourself this. Who have we rostered even in the same zip code as Patrick Peterson?

    The closest we had was Porter doing all this on one leg. So how can we honestly expect INTs from our CBs?

    Now we move to the Safeties. They’re supposed to read the eyes of the QB (not get fooled), anticipate, and jump the routes for INTs.

    But what Safeties have we rolled out? Rolle. Amos. HJQ. Prosinki? Vereen? (Fucking VEREEN).

    None of those dudes are jumping shit and are future ARBY employee of the month candidates.

    So due to scheme, it doesn’t come as much of a surprise that we’re not getting INTs.

    The advantage to the Lovie duece is that ALL the secondary eyes are looking toward the QB, so that gives them an advantage to jumping routes and INTs, or hitting the shit out of the receiver trying to dislodge it causing FFs (though this has been essentially legislated out of the game. When lil guys like Steve Smith crossed the cover 2, that was BALLSY back in the day).

    Now, I’m not advocating switching back to the Base Cover-2. It has its drawbacks as we all know, but TOs doesn’t seem to be one of them.

    And both schemes work under the assumption “bend don’t break” except that when you keep bending w-out TOs, you eventually BREAK.

    How many back breaking busted coverages that killed games have happened under Fangio?

    Remember last time we played Bucs? How about the Pack? Or when Hilton ran loose for the Colts? Happened AGAIN vs Falcons.

    I can’t even remember them all, but it seems like it ALWAYS happens somewhere in the crucial moment of the game, and we all know – game over.

    Maybe Demps and Jackson are better. It’s only the first game, Demps is in a new system, Jackson is a rook.

    But the D system itself seems fatally flawed – I don’t think it puts the secondary in the optimum position to create TOs, and we def don’t roster a Berry at S or a Peterson at CB to overcome it.

    My 2cents.

    • Corporal Clott

      About your tibetan monks comment – I’d stand on top of Mt Everest butt naked half the night if I knew there were 7 virgins warming up my sleeping bag back at base camp. Just sayin…

      • willbest

        I presume you meant half knight butt naked. So you would be wearing the helm, paudrons, breastplate, vambraces, and gaunts. But not the tasset, cuisse, greaves, or boots.

        Approximately how long would you be willing to do this for your virgins? And why 7? What if they were fat? Or is the presumption when one says virgins that they be at least a 9.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          better make sure the virgins are female.

        • Corporal Clott

          You’re right, it’s not all its cracked up to be but neither is being a Tibetan monk.

    • BerwynBomber

      I sense Jackson will snare a pick or two before season’s end. He seems to have a smidge of playmaker DNA in his genetic make-up. Main thing, for now, is keeping him healthy.

      • I think he might too. But the system makes it an uphill battle.
        And naturally, all this depends on a good pass rush.

        Playing in the NFCN doesn’t help either. Vadgers is deadly accurate. Bradford just broke some NFL record for comp %. Lesbo has greatly improved under Jim Bob Cooter.

        Something in the formula has to change.

        We either have to score quickly and get the Os throwing from behind; Fangio must blitz more; Fangio has to teach his dudes to take more chances. Or Fuller, Jackson, Demps etc have to turn into AP ballers.

        But as it stands, I’m just gonna wait for our D to break around the 3rd QTR.

        Par course.

        • BerwynBomber

          Good point about the division. Though as much as Pie Face has improved, I sense he will always have a little Cutty about him and make the occasional WTF throw.

          • Hope so, but fat lesbo just eviscerated a waaay better Card’s secondary.

            Granted, it probably gassed out by then, but still.

            It’s gonna be rough sledding for INTs.

            It seems Fangio teaches them to just block the pass from trail, or try to knock it out of their hands. I thought maybe this was due to having guys like LeBlanc and Hall starting, but I see ALL the CBs doing it, so it’s his philo, which may lead to stops, but not TOs.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, that stat line and result was damn impressive. Stafford lighting up that ARI secondary is not something I would have imagined. I assume the money DET dumped into its OL helped as well.

            Speaking of LeBlanc, I believe he had our only pick six last year against … yup, Pie Face.

            Btw, I wonder when our last pick six was before LeBlanc’s. Porter never had one here did he? Conte? Wouldn’t shock me if it went back to Peanut or Jennings.

            In fact, if I had to guess I might go with Jennings.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            2014 Ryan Mundy against the Jets.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            lol, Ryan Mundy. If that wasn’t representative of the FA signings of the last few years I don’t know what was.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            I don’t even remember him being on the team.

          • Johnnywad

            Me neither.

          • willbest

            Mundy Night FOOTBALL!!

          • Oye.

            Remembering when MB got like 3 of them in back-to-back weeks….

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            wasn’t one of those to beat the 49ers, when TO alligator armed a slant route?

          • I think so. He ran two of them back in OT to end both games, which I think was the first time ever in NFL history that someone did that.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis
          • The absolute shock face on Garcia and Couch as the crowd went nuts is priceless.

            Ah, fuck, I just depressed myself…

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            Dude , do you remember the comebacks in both games that even allowed for OT??? they were fucking insane! Then Brown’s returns on both of them! I was at both of those fucking games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I never partied so hard in my entire life.

            For the Cleveland game it felt like most of the crowd had left already so you could freely walk around and sit wherever. We were getting footstomped the entire game and with just a few minutes left they scored, got an onside kick, got another miracle TD off of a tip and that’s what got it to overtime. I was basically at the 40yd line in the 2nd level by the end of the game.

            MADNESS:
            Blacks hugging whites
            Jews hugging Palestinians
            Dogs hugging cats

            It was madness and pandemonium.

          • Yeah, they were insane fucking comebacks that required shit like 2 point conversion just to get it to OT.

            Deum. You were at BOTH games? Man, I’d give my left nuts to be at those. Wow.

            But you can tell the passion and urgency those Ds played with.

            That’s what we fucking lack. Ballers who refuse to lose.

            Instead, we have defenders letting TEs run loose 50 yds down field….sigh…

          • BerwynBomber

            Hah! Good one. Would have never gotten that.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            we should get a pool together to see who the next Bears player will be to have a pick 6

        • willbest

          Jim Bob is my early favorite to replace Fox.

          • BerwynBomber

            Mine is Sean Payton.

          • willbest

            I think Butch considers him the most overrated HC in the league.

          • Nah, that was someone else. Maybe Scout.

            But his perennial awful Ds, holy shit.

            Those are like Bubba Gump level Ds. That would scare the shit out of me about Payton.

            Almost would have to hire a DC for him and tell him to stay out of that side of the ball.

          • Corporal Clott

            Let’s face it, the few teams in the league that have figured out how to score early and often, win games and go to the playoffs almost every year. I think what happens is most head coaches just never find their QB. If Trubinsky is the real deal and at this point in time it’s a huge “if”, life as a Bears fan might just be good again.

          • BerwynBomber

            That was me, actually.

            Too harsh? I don’t know. NO is obviously a shit franchise but you would think an excellent HC might overcome bad management a little more with Brees on the roster.

            When your D is as bad as it has been for that long eventually you have to look at the HC.

            Kinda like Lovie with our O.

          • That would be interesting.

            I’m waiting to see how this season unfolds.

            They got rid of Burton, a good FB, which is something akin to Trestman dumping Clutts because of ‘system”

            From most accounts, Cooter is now trusting Lesbo more (eerily like Trestman trusting his O to Cutler), so I’ll wait and see first how that turns out cuz Lesbo really came on late last season if memory serves.

            But if Jim Bob puts Lesbo in the top 5, then def have to consider him

            (then the next question – is he merely a good OC like Trestman – or does he have what it takes to be a good HC?)

          • willbest

            In my dream, we win the NFCC at soldier field, but the weather hasn’t turned so after getting Gatorade poured all over him he grabs his pickup truck and starts doing donuts across soldier field with a shotgun held out the driveside window screaming loudly. He is also magically sporting a mullet and Willie Young is in the flatbed on a lawn chair in overalls with a straw in his mouth casting his line snagging Bears hats from fans heads.

          • Irish Sweetness

            CHUCKY!!!

        • Irish Sweetness

          “Fangio must blitz more; Fangio has to teach his dudes to take more
          chances. Or Fuller, Jackson, Demps etc have to turn into AP ballers.”

          A golden unicorn will shit diamond nuggets in a poppy-strewn field of magic marshmallows before any of that happens …. sadly.

    • King of DBB

      You want to switch back to a 4-3 NOW?

      • willbest

        Its too late for that, but I have been wondering why we left at this point.

      • Oh heck no. It’s too late now.

        The 4-3/3-4 is kinda much a do about nothing anyways.

        You can play cover-2 or cover-3 or man in either.

        If McPhee or Young put their hands in the dirt, it instantly becomes a 4-3.

        But it has more to do with overall philo esp when it comes to the secondary.

        Fuller was drafted as a Peanut zone type CB not a Peterson man maven.

        The rest are just JAGs (when they’re not INJ).

        I’m more explaining the lack of TOs, esp INTs from our secondary.

        • King of DBB

          3-4 is supposedly about improving the vectors you can get to the QB with. But that is not happening. Why?

          Willie Young was a turf 4-3 guy for the Lions whose career we fucked over.
          Houston’s body was shot when he left the raiders – he would have done better to go a 4-3 team.
          McPhee blew his knee out and then coaches had him play 3 more games just to grind it to dust
          Acho cannot rush the passer he’s a weak side guy that can kinda pick up the TE
          Floyd gets concussed cause he so skinny
          The inside guys are often not gap filling

          • Tortured Bear fan

            at the sudden, they ran out of players…

          • There’s diff types of 3-4s. Some are more aggressive than others. Some play more zone than others. Some are more flexible than others.

            Like the type Irish dreams about is that classic Dick LeBeu attacking 3-4 when the blitzes are coming hard from everywhere. Then again, they had guys like Polamalu, Woodley, Hampton, James Harrison, Ryan Clark, Ike Taylor (while we have…)

            Fangio’s 3-4 is much more conservative. It’s like missionary style. It’s very close to a 4-3 under which rarely blitzed more than 4.

            The QB doesn’t have to guess where the pass rush is coming from because it’s likely coming from the 3 Dlinemen + OLB (most likely Floyd).

            Fangio’s D is not filled with exotic zones, fire dogs, shift formations, safeties feigning blitzes then pulling out…it does nothing to confuse the Offense, which is supposed to be one of the biggest benefits of running a 3-4.

            Then ppl wonder why we don’t get TOs. It’s like those lovie days when good QBs just carved up the the cover-2 except they at least used to create TOs.

            Most of us were patient with Fangio thinking he just didn’t have the personnell like he did in SF, but at SOME point a DC MUST recognize and adapt.

            This is why I understand Irish’s gripe, though I don’t advocate returning back to the Buddy 46 or anything, but Fangio COULD get more creative esp after INJs ravage his squad.

          • King of DBB

            If you open a high school football coaching manual, you will not see a lot of zone from corners in the 3-4 base guide. Because you gain a linebacker, most of the base playbook calls for the LBs to drop out and the Corners to bump and run.

            Cover 3 Buzz: Corners press –

            http://img.bleacherreport.net/img/images/photos/002/872/548/7199f882d633dc695876bd714fee7401_crop_north.png?h=533&w=800&q=70&crop_x=center&crop_y=top

            Here’s a Soft C3 high from a 3-4:
            https://static01.nyt.com/images/2009/09/02/sports/03_graph_2.jpg

            I think you are advocating the latter look, needing the outside guys (Acho and Floyd ) to drop out more often and bring down a pass rushing ILB like Christian Jones.

            You may get that now that Freeman is done.

            I think there is more upside to a Jones-Trevathon look than putting Strawberry Kwikowski in there. Jones can bring heat but is effectively useless in the wash.

          • Yeah, most 3-4 CBs are def man. That’s a main diff. That’s why we could get away with Peanut types for years under Lovie cuz typically zone CBs aren’t asked to do as much (as I illustrated above).

            I don’t advocate for 4-3 over 3-4, or a Lebau 3-4 or a Wade Phillips 3-4, or stuff like that, because they all have their positives and negatives.

            But what I WOULD like to see is more variety. More double A gap blitzes. Fake A-gap blitzes. Nickle blitzes. S blitzes. 3 man pass rush. Cover 3, 2,. More in the box. Shadow coverage, etc.

            If we’re relying on our D to win games, then THEY MUST WIN GAMES and not just bend over until they break.

            Fox and Fangio must recognize that their Offense is not high scoring, and as such, must take more risk on the D side.

            Like Urlacher said in an interview. He felt they NEEDED takeaways to win games.

            That if they didn’t get TOs, they would lose cuz they knew the O sucked.

            They put that team on their backs.

            That’s what this D and Fangio don’t understand (or are too incompetent to achieve).

            This O NEEDS an extra possession. This 3 win team NEEDS momentum changing plays. This requires more looks, more creative, and yes, bigger risk on D side, but I think both Fox and Fangio are constitutional incapable of gambling more.

            Ironically playing it safe will get them both canned.

          • King of DBB

            Well perhaps the exotic blitz schemes will start to come against the Bucs.

            I thought Hicks was playing some Pro-Bowl shit in there – he was a 340lb force of fucking nature in there. And he was breaking plays down so they kept the backers out of there and didn’t bring anything from the edge.

            All-22 on the TD shows Demps totally blew his assignment so perhaps they think they have not got the basics down yet before bringing safeties into the box.

          • It might be due to Jackson being a rook, and Demps being rather new to the scheme, but it’s been the same story since Fangio has arrived. League low in TOs.

            One Tommie Harris or Pepp can make a diff. Is Hicks or Floyd that guy? Hope so.

            But other things to keep in mind is that INJs are not just gonna stop. There’s gonna be games when McMannis and Amos might play, where Unrein will be NT, or Christian Jones ILB. Bank on it.

            Can’t let that stop a DCs creativity or aggression.

            Edit. Man.

          • King of DBB

            Hooray. 3rd and 3 and we got Jenkins and Unrein inside.

          • You know it’s going to happen.
            Most likely vs the Packers when the game is on the line.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m thinking that when Ginny dies this week and I somehow win a Powerball I didn’t enter that somehow got to 2 Billion and I buy the Bears …. the first thing I’d do is fire Fangio out on his ass.

            I’m talking kicking, slapping, spitting, kicking him right in the ass all the way out the door out onto the road.

            In fairness, I’d have security remove Shaheen. Just pretend that second rounder never happened.

          • CanadaBear

            If you ran the Bears I would follow another team.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fangio had two press corners in Glenn and Hall ….

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t know if it was last year or the year before, but LeBeau blitzed more than anyone while the Bears D blitzed the least. Now if he wants to be conservative, then at least be in the middle of that somewhere, and not an outlier at the wrong end of the spectrum of violence. But being the LEAST pressurizing defense in the league? What can that possibly achieve? Other than an easy life for opposing offenses.

            Offenses LOOK FORWARD to visiting Soldier Field, instead of fearing for their health and careers like they would in the Eighties. Fifteen yard penalties?? AND???

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why?

            Let’s not even get into the personnel we have. The intention to rush the passer is not there. LDL got lucky because he had Tommie Harris and Urlacher etc. We actually do have guys who would be great on the Patriots one day. Jones, Acho, Kwiat, run one of them up the middle every second play. If our LBs are lsot in coverage, just blitz them. That’s what Bellifat does.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Of course he doesn’t help out his secondary .. .he’d have to put the opposing QB under pressure to do that.

  • AlbertInTucson

    The Colts have former Patriot 3rd string wunderkind, Jacoby Brissett, who, now that he’s not a Patriot, can’t beat out Scott Tolzien?

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      They only traded for Brissett 10 or 11 days ago. might need a little more time to get up to speed on playbook.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        exactly. and, uh, he’s Jacoby Brissett.

        Brissett vs Tolzein
        AIDS vs Ebola
        overcooked Broccoli vs undercooked asparagus

      • Irish Sweetness

        They can sign Kap!

      • AlbertInTucson

        And we’re talking Scott Tolzien as the competition there.

    • What. You’re telling me the immortal Scott Tolzien went down in flames faster than a kamikaze over the Pacific?

      Colts think they would lose $ if they had signed Kap early as backup.

      Just wait till they’re 0-6 and announce that Luck is out for the year. See how many “loyal” fans show up then.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        it’s Indy, they will show up there is nothing else to do there.

  • King of DBB

    Alex Smith ESPN mag interview:


    “The culture at the time in the building, those first six years for me, I knew that it was really dysfunctional. I knew that this wasn’t the way that successful places operated. I knew that ownership was a soap opera full of spoiled children. But when you’re a young QB, it’s hard to vocalize that. It’s hard to stand up and say that. It’s hard to make the change because you don’t necessarily at that point know what the right thing looks like at the NFL level because I haven’t been around it yet. But when it’s as weird as that place, you know something is not right. I do know the situation I was in was not the right way. I did know that. Just the culture and everything about it. Forget the coaching changes — I’m talking just the culture of the building was not…just unhealthy. Completely dysfunctional. From the GM to the owners and especially the owners. Different people on different wavelengths. Not a clear communication, not a clear goal of the entire building. Very separated. And I think that all trickled into the locker room where we had a very separated locker room — offense, defense, special teams. That started with Mike Nolan. It wasn’t a selfless unit, not everybody putting the team first. I think all those things that come with dysfunction that are the opposite of what healthy organizations and team environments have.”

    There definitely was a few-year period where I was far more comfortable playing on the road, that I looked forward to road games. The pressure of the home game, fans turning on us, yeah, that was a lot, for sure. Niner fans are the most fickle and hateful fans in the league, I think. There were certainly times leading up to that, moments of such poor play and product, that it was for sure justified. It was bad. Bad, bad ball that we were putting out there. But the hate we would get, from journalists and fans, it was so far over the top it was extreme.”

    “during the October 10, 2010 night game against the Eagles, fans started chanting for David (Carr) to be come in. That was BS. We are getting booed, Sunday night in front of everybody, national TV crowd, and just I feel like I’m battling and I’m the guy that’s getting exposed out there. There were a lot of other things I feel like I’m taking the brunt of. Then all of a sudden I’m dealing with a head coach (Singletary) on a sideline that’s in my face and screaming at me on top of fans chanting for the backup, and I was trying to please all these people right? I felt like a head coach that didn’t understand what it took, getting putting out there in a position that’s not optimal to succeed and taking all that, and yeah, I think there’s finally a moment where you’re like ‘Man, screw this, right? I’m tired of trying to please all these different people. I’m done with this and really kind of being the culmination of all that. Singletary especially was all about the theater that made him look good and really nothing else. He loved to rant and rave but was incapable of doing anything that I would consider real coaching, helping a player along or just giving sound advice to people. He was always just about putting on a show perhaps he got that mentality from his playing days. So I’m going to go play for me and not worry about the rest of this stuff.”

    Kaepernick getting promoted was hard, I mean really hard, right? Like I said, I had dealt with all that dysfunction, and finally coach came in and things were right. We were going. We had a good team, great staff, like the building I felt like finally was about football again. It was pure. And I had been playing good under Harbaugh. Then all of a sudden, boom. Colin had played well those couple games. I knew he was obviously their guy; they brought him in, drafted him, and I was kind of the left over. It was hard. You want to be selfish at that point; you’re pissed off, you’re frustrated. At the same time, we’re in the middle of the season, we’re going. You’re a play away. I know it. He’s a young guy, he’s never played, you’re a play away, so you’re just kind of going, right? You’re staying ready for your next opportunity. You don’t know when it’s going to come, and it didn’t come. It was hard, right? I’m still a captain. I’m still going out for the coin toss because of the way that season had started. Then sitting and watching, and obviously that game got away from us, then I’m like ‘Oh man, am I going to play?’ You’re getting to roll, then we come marching back and right on the doorstep of a championship. You’re part of the team, right; these are all my buddies, we’ve all put in a bunch of time and effort and been through a lot. As selfish as it is to be upset about it and to see Colin playing well, put the team first. Can I be the guy that puts the team first and be happy for the team and us? You’ve got that inner speak going on. Can you do that? Can you be the team first guy? All that’s kind of going on. Bittersweet. I was glad to get off that team.”

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      It’s ok that he said this because he is not Jay Cutler. Can you fucking imagine what players could have said about the 2013/2014 Bears?

      This is honest shit. Not the canned garbage that players have to tell the media when we all know what’s going on. This was a nice insight into a real guy going through a tough time.

      At least he didn’t pull an Andrew Luck and be a total coaches award D bag.

      • King of DBB

        Can you imagine Jay going that candid on Ginny, Crazy Uncle Phil and the Cryptkeeper? Talking about how his shit was seething when Aaron Kromer starts crying?

        There’s no crying in baseball, you fucking pansy.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          haha, surreal. Why was he crying? So fucking weird.
          Imagine what it was like when PaedoCrypt was making grown professional athletes pick garbage off of the floor and throw it away properly….in front of the rest of the team. Briggs almost lost his shit. Briggs ended up being a cancer as well which is sad.

          • King of DBB

            Briggs decided making BBQ was more fun than that shit.

            Kromer was scapegoated. Then the asswipe punched a kid in the face. Seriously. He punched a LITTLE KID in THE FACE for taking his folding chair at a recreational lake.

            Then he cried and begged for forgiveness.

            http://sportsmockery.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/Aaron-Kromer-Crying-Police-REport-Arrested.jpg

            The dude is the peanuts in shit at a Tennessee correctional institute.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            man, you can’t make that shit up.

          • WP4Life

            Disgrace to see him wearing a Bears cap.

        • Corporal Clott

          I thought his comments about Singletary put Samurai in the “pathetic” category. I can absolutely picture him as the type of guy he describes.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yeah, trying to be a Ditka-copy.

      • Corporal Clott

        Maybe Jay will get his day? You never know?

    • Corporal Clott

      I have a new and profound respect for that man. Mostly because all he’s done is go out and prove everyone wrong. Good for him.

      Oh, and fack the niners.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’d say they were more glad to get rid of him, because he stank.

  • King of DBB

    Al Afalava
    Ryan Mundy
    Will Demps

    We miss you Danielle Manning!

    Hey, did you guys hear the news? Jamal Lee Adams is a bonefied stud and the new Mike Brown.

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    The only time I want Kwiatkoski out there is if he’s blitzing an A gap. At least he’s moving towards the line of scrimmage at that point.

    • when Trevathan was out in the preseason, they played Jones some in nickel looks for more obvious passing situations. They seem to like him a bit more than Kwiatkoski in coverage at this point, but Kwiatkoski more overall.

      • Irish Sweetness

        All spells trouble.

    • King of DBB

      No no no no.

      Christian Jones is mocha man meat that can blow a center up. But is fooled by pretty girls with red balloons and anything resembling misdirection.

      You want Strawberry Kwik in there when you have to worry about a crossing TE.

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        mmmmmmm…..mocha.

  • Sactowns#1

    I have a tough decision to make gents. I have two QB’s. Bradford and Winston. Bradford may have just been a flash in the pan against a poor defense, or he could be turning a corner. Winston should be fired up in front of an inspired crowd, but this defense is pretty dang good. Suggestions?

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      OJ Howard is going to have his cleats sent to fucking Canton after this game. Go with Winston.

      ugh, I’m torn though because Winston fucking sucks.

      Go with Bradford.

      The Bucs are going to run the rock a bunch with Freeman out.

      • King of DBB

        The Juice is on the loose!

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          He’s going to get Jordan Reed money after playing us.

      • Corporal Clott

        And let’s not forget most schlub QB’s have career games against the Bears.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Who’ll run it? Doug Martin is suspended. Those dudes can’t run the ball.

    • King of DBB

      It comes down to what you think of the Saints D.

      I thought Bradford turned a corner. He was zipping some motherfuckers in there, and Stefon Diggs is just like Deonte Thompson, if you infused Thompson with a special blend of Captain America serum that quadrupled his talent.

      The Bucs weapons are less so. And the Bears will play them tough.

      Then again, I got fucking Waffled in FF and my teams are basically useless unless I draft Seabass to give me those consistent 18ppg weekends.

    • Hey, are you seriously gonna roll with Watson in Da League?

      You’re braver than I thought.

      • Sactowns#1

        I’m a Wildman baby!! He’s starting this week and he’s gonna put up solid numbers. The guy is on my all time Bears team of shoulda-coulda-woulda.

        • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

          Sac, please read my professional analysis of his first game.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’m starting Winston in most places over CHI. We have nothing in secondary. We’ll probably keep them contained on the ground, and Winston hits up Evans and Howard all day long.

      Positives? We get to go at Conte!

  • FF alert.

    I created the “Waffled” award a couple yrs back, and this yr Ender “won” it the very first week.

    “I don’t know what makes this worse. That Waffle had 3 starters on WEEK
    ONE BYE, and still beat Ender.That Waffle started Trub, who didn’t even play, and still beat Ender.
    That Cohen scored more than Wilson, Julio Jones and Watkins COMBINED.Or that Ender actually won when some S Korean K named Koo made it, but was then called back, then BLOCKED in the final play of the week, which changed the score to 113-112 Waffle. It’s so bad, it’s funny.

    Welcome to being Waffled.”

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    Waffle Gambling Update:
    Week 2 –
    Bal over Cle
    AZ over Indy
    CAR over BUF
    TB over CHI
    OAK over Jets
    SEA over SF
    The other week 2 matchups are fucking weird man. You’d have to be crazy to bet on any other game. Even Rapermeister said that Cleveland is going surprise some people this week so I may scratch that one off of the list.

    • King of DBB

      Check this…

      Ray Lewis was on Showtime’s Inside the NFL last night talking about if this Ravens D was as good as his Super Bowl D. (He said it wasn’t)

      But he’s wearing an all white suit!

      Oh Ray. You murderous douche, you HAVE THE MEATS!

      • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

        lol, man how did he not go to prison for that shit. haha, where’s the white suit Ray?!?

        GP, you could put 100,000 down on AZ beating Indy.
        #cryptoreturns

        • King of DBB

          If anyone would fuck you over in Vegas, it would be Bruce Arians.

          • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

            AZ is off of the board because David Johnson is out and I don’t trust Palmer. But Indy is SO FUCKING BAD

          • King of DBB

            That is sound reasoning.

      • Jesus. That’s like OJ selling butcher knives on QVC wearing gloves…

        • Irish Sweetness

          …. gloves that don’t fit? Like Jason-sized gloves?

          • Corporal Clott

            What if the whole event never happened? Wouldn’t that be a mind bender?

      • BearDown100393

        The Ravens had a Ray Donovan on the payroll.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ravens D is going to shit on CLE from heaven.

  • King of DBB
  • King of DBB

    So I was watching my son play PS4 and he takes a break and starts watching some Twitch streams of gamers that he likes.

    And all these gamers have channels that reference “Free water at McD”.

    Like one guys channel is

    “Free water at McD” and another is:
    “Got me some free McWater” and then
    “Salty memes and Free McD Aqua”

    WTF is that about? Is that some post-hurricane meme thing?

    • Corporal Clott

      It’s probably just low budget genius marketing. Kids will drink anything that’s free these days.

    • Sactowns#1

      A little while back McDonalds announced they were going to start charging for water so probably just some lightweight outrage. Gotta start the kids young.

      • Corporal Clott

        I was thinking that McDonald’s was just prepping their peeps to start having to pay for their water. Smh

  • PARSEVEN

    Fox made sure to mention the Bears were in a one-score game, perhaps to justify Glennon, the game plan, his approach, all of it. The defense will make a lot of these games possible. Glennon will make most of them impossible to win.

    • Irish Sweetness

      John can start adding up those ‘one-score’ games ….

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    I’m doing some gambling research watching the condensed 30minute games with a huge glass of whiskey and let me say this:

    Jacksonville D plays like Seattle. They hold on every single play and they’re super aggressive. They have 2 speed rushers, massive D tackles and Myles Jack, Bouye and Ramey are all over the place. They’re like a bunch of fucking jackals.
    Bortles is brutal but his receivers did drop some when he did occasionally deliver the ball in the field of play.
    Fournette and Ivory run HARD and hit holes quickly.

    Houston just lost Cushing to steroids, Watt was semi effective, etc but the real story was their Offense. The narrative is that Deshaun Watson came in during the 2nd half and provided a spark to the O.

    Ummm, nope!

    Like in Karate Kid 3 when the villain beats the fuck out of Danny LaRusso, winning a point then fucking him up illegally to get a point taken away, rinse wash repeat, the Jacksonville D piled on late hit after sack and roughing the passer after sack after forced fumble, an INT returned 50yds by Jack negated by a D hands to the face call, 2 roughing the passer calls on Collins and the african D end NDamke or some shit. Then later in the game another INT for a 60yd return and fumble by Watson.

    Spark my ass, he got his fucking ass kicked….and he hurt his ankle. The throws were off target 70% of the time when blitzed or rushed hard.

    Bet against Houston but maybe hold off as they play the Bengals this week who may or may not have the worst QB in the league this year in Dalton after his initial performance. Savage is average and Watson looked no better except for some scrambles which will be affected by his hurt ankle without at doubt.

    Edit: i do have a renewed man crush on Houston FB Jay Prosch. He went to Auburn and is in his 4th year in the league just fucking killing dudes. I love Fullback meat.

    Karate Kid 3 dude.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Thinking Trub comes in week 5 after the brutal stretch if Glennon doesn’t do better than what he has. They don’t want to put in an inexperienced kid vs. and up-and-coming Bucs, then the Steelers and the Pack. I’m OK with that. Of course, Glennon could surprise and they keep him in, but I doubt it. My only worry is that now he’s set up to fail with no receivers, and an O-line that’s uncertain without Long.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I think we have targets. Tarik. Miller. Sims. I believe in Deonte, I think he’s taken that step that Cam took. I’m guessing Wright and Wheaton are okay? Tanner will be good?

      But when was the last time Kyle Long was a thing? He’s been a liability on that line. We seem better without him.

      OJ Howard and Mike Evans will open us up though. Maybe we can open them up too!

  • ButtonShoes

    “As Jay Glazer reported at the time, the Bears went into that draft
    hoping to get one of three players: White, Amari Cooper or Leonard
    Williams.”

    WHAT?! Leonard Williams?! Well if they wanted him so much, then WHY THE FUCK DIDN’T PACE MOVE UP TO GET HIM?!?!?!?!?!?! Goddammit.

    • Irish Sweetness

      After missing both Aaron Donald and Leonard Williams by one spot, I guess he wasn’t getting done out of Trubs.

  • Sahr Gborie

    Per a league source, the Patriots worked out on Wednesday receivers Daniel Braverman

  • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

    I just clicked on it and am excited to be the most comfortable I’ve ever had!

© Da' Bears Blog