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Across The Middle: Coaching Collision Course?

| September 20th, 2017

Whether this is just a rumor or if it actually happened is anybody’s guess.

The story goes that before the Bears Week 17 game in 2014, Ted Phillips and George McCaskey brought Phil Emery into the principal’s office and asked him what his plan was. Firing Marc Trestman was a no-brainer but the Bears needed to know Emery had a solid plan to replace him. Emery’s response was a guy he had worked with before: Mike Smith.

Smith had success in the past. The Falcons won at least nine games in his first five years, but they’d gone just 10-22 since then. He wasn’t sexy and wasn’t someone any other team was going to consider. Emery liked him because he knew him and he felt Smith did a good job in helping turn the Falcons around. The Bears brass never really responded to Emery. They watched the Week 17 game together and the next time they spoke was the last. Emery was fired the next morning.

If things keep going the way they’re going, Ted and George are going to have the same talk with Ryan Pace. And, like Emery, there’s a good chance Pace is going to be able to mention a familiar name. Only this time, that name will have a Super Bowl ring.

But is Sean Payton the answer?

I know some fans are excited about the possibility of Payton coming to the Bears. I’ve also heard that Payton would have an interest in the opening because of his familiarity with Pace and affinity for Mitch Trubisky, who the Saints reportedly tried to trade up to the second overall pick to get. But since winning the Super Bowl in 2009, the Saints have had just three winning seasons and have suffered three straight 7-9 campaigns. He just might be Jeff Fisher 2.0.

I’ll concede Payton as an offensive genius, even though I think working with Drew Brees is a large part of the reason why he has that reputation. But the guy just can’t get the defense right. He has a reputation as someone who meddles with his assistants, particularly his defensive coordinators. Do you think Vic Fangio is going to stay and work for a guy who wants to tell him how to call a defense? If the Bears lose Fangio, they’d have a hard time replacing him under Payton, who is as bad as hiring defensive coaches as Lovie Smith was at hiring offensive coaches.

But I couldn’t blame Pace if he went with Payton. If Pace is given the chance to hire the team’s next coach, he has to be positive that he’s hiring the right guy. I’m sure Payton would provide some comfort for him and if Pace has hit on Trubisky like we all seem to think he has, whoever the next coach is should be able to have a lot of success.

But Fox hasn’t been fired yet…

Maybe the firing seems like a formality at this point but Fox has 14 games left to save his coaching career. If it’s going to happen, it has to start this week.

The Bears aren’t going to make the playoffs, but I don’t think making the playoffs was the bar set prior to this season. They just have to improve and show they’re on the right track. The only problem to this point is that they’re still making the same mistakes they were making in Year 1 and those really should be fixed by now.

Pittsburgh is beatable. Really, they are. They’re a different team on the road and the Bears notoriously slow turf could play a big factor in slowing Antonio Brown. The Steelers barely beat the Browns in Week 1 this year and went 6-4 on the road last year with one win coming against the Browns and another against the Andrew Luckless Colts.

If the Bears drop this game, it could be just the middle of a long slide. They play in Green Bay next Thursday before hosting the Vikings, who should have Sam Bradford back on Oct. 9 and at Baltimore Oct. 15. It’s not hard to see 0-6 and 0-6 probably gets the head coach fired.

If they can win this week and win one of their next three, they follow that with consecutive winnable games against Carolina and New Orleans. Even with a split in those two games, they’d be 3-5. Three wins in the final eight (in which they have games against the 49ers and Browns) could keep Fox’s job and four would almost guarantee it.

Of course, Fox could really help himself by, you know, playing the best quarterback.

I Want Winners

Tarik Cohen probably should’ve just let that punt die and be downed. That was the smart play. But he saw an opportunity to make a play and he took a chance. It just really did not work for him at all.

Cohen ran for the ball, thinking he could get it and, if he did, he’d have a lot of room to run. He was right and it almost worked, but it didn’t. The Tampa Bay player realized what Cohen was doing and ripped the ball out of his hands. The Bucs scored a touchdown on the next play and a 10-0 hole was too much for Mike Glennon to fathom.

Still, give me the guy who wants to make a play, even if it backfires. I can live with mistakes if they’re aggressive mistakes. But maybe next time, he should pick his spot better.

Weird Numbers

Generally, I think fans will say the offense has been the problem with the Bears this season, but don’t sleep on how blah the defense has been.

According to Pro Football Reference, the Bears defense is currently 26th in terms of yards per drive allowed, and 29th in points per drive. They’re allowing opposing offenses to average 6.5 plays per drive, the sixth-worst rate in the league. What’s weird about their scoring inefficiency is that they’ve had the second-best average starting field position to work with.

The offense, meanwhile ranks in the top five in number of plays and time per drive and they’re eighth in yards per drive. Of course, the kicker is that they’re averaging just 1.33 points per drive, the eighth-worst rate in the league.

If you don’t think these numbers pass the smell test, I tend to agree with you. The offensive numbers are inflated by three drives late in the game against Tampa Bay and their last two drives against Atlanta. Outside of those, the offense has done very little.

The defensive stats are hurt by two busted coverages against Atlanta and a long field goal drive when they were already trailing 26-0.

That said, these are numbers worth keeping an eye on.

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      Supposed to call “First” rookie.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I have never called “First”.

        Never will.

        • SC Dave

          Curmudgeon

          • AlbertInTucson

            No argument there.

        • Johnnywad

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          • AlbertInTucson

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            Pet peeve.

            Like trolls.

            If you have a comment, post it.

            A lot of times someone calling “First” actually WASN’T because they didn’t update the page.

            Also, I’m old and grumpy.

        • There’s a first for everything…

          • AlbertInTucson

            Don’t hold your breath on this one.

        • Irish Sweetness

          You’re either first or you’re last, Al.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I’m lasting as long as I can.

  • SC Dave

    I suspect we will play PIttsburgh a better game than most expect, but still lose. The players have to know that Fox’ ass is in a sling, and if he is all that so far as being a “player’s coach”, they should ball out for him before too many more people end up on IR because of an incompetent S&C staff.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Is he a better players coach than Lovie?

      • SC Dave

        Good question; I have no basis to compare them.

    • They QUIT on Fox last season after that Foreskins game.

      They never quit on Lovie.

      • CanadaBear

        They had a few really flat games under Lovie. The team never quit but nobody was killing themselves in those games. Really odd dynamic. Nessman’s team the second year quit at the first sign of adversity.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    Decent read and interesting points made about CTE in this article from a forensic pathologist/ neuropathologist.

    https://sports.yahoo.com/im-brain-scientist-let-son-play-football-135727314.html

    • SC Dave

      Worth the time. Thanks.

  • Artoo

    The only coach that I truly want for the Bears is in Michigan. Think about what he could do with this rookie quarterback…

    If I was Pace, I would do everything to get Jim back into the NFL and coaching the Chicago Bears.

    • Sahr Gborie

      Make it so

    • willbest

      Didn’t Michigan put a $50 million buyout clause in Harbaugh’s contract?

  • Redflagdan

    Can’t wait for the speculation by the media who will replace Fox. Payton will be only one of many on the list.

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    I think it is a little early to be talking about who should replace Fox, it is week 3. Let’s stick to the crappy team that is on the field.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      with that being said, didn’t Payton just sign a 5 year extension last year?

      • Redflagdan

        Yes, last year. He is signed through 2020.

        • Sahr Gborie

          we have enough problems as it is let him stay with the aints

    • evantonio

      Dave Toub for HC!

      • CanadaBear

        I think they could do a helluva lot worse. Is he a little too rough around the edges for snobby NFL owners/GM’s? I’m not sure how many times he’s interviewed for the HC job.

        • evantonio

          Lordy me. I wonder what the last 5 years would’ve been like had Emery gone with Toub over Tresticles.

    • He should’ve been fired in week 2…last year.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • I made a modest bid for him in FF.

      $5.

      Someone else bidded more. Meh.

      That SEA Oline still sucks.

      They still think Rawls is a thing, and haven’t cut Fat Eddie.

      Schedule not exactly enticing.

      The dude I really wanted and got was Henry.

      6’2 245 man-meat in exoctic smashmouth? Yes please.

      • CanadaBear

        I think you just made Irish jizz a little.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Carson doesn’t need an OL, that’s what’s good about him.

        Henry is a great #1 stuck as a #2.

  • Scharfinator

    I sure as shit hope we don’t hire Payton. The Saints seem to deliberately shit the bed on D – it’s as prevalent as our injury woes.

    • Yeah, his Ds suck.

      BUTTTT what if Greg Williams comes with him at DC?

      I know he’s a gigantic douche, but his Ds always play aggressive, create TOs, and have swag.

  • Sahr Gborie

    Emery is a tool. Mike Smith???Really???

    No thank you Payton. He is not the only offensive genius in the league. If Pace wants to get fired he should defiantly hire Payton.

    Right now Fox will go when Pace/Ted/George want him to go but a lot more losing will change that time frame very quickly.

    Tarik i a winner. We need more of him especially at QB…wait we have that already (MT)

    • Scharfinator

      Not a huge Smith fan myself, but Trestman was an abject fail.

  • SC Dave

    Kareem Hunt too much for the NFL so far. Crazy good pick for the third round.

    https://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/H/HuntKa00.htm

    7.6 yards per carry; 15.8 per reception. 8 catches on 8 targets. 5 TD in 2 games.

    • Johnnywad

      The draft is such a crap shoot isn’t it? Everybody passed over that kid twice.

      • evantonio

        We passed over Dave Toub twice!

        Third time’s the charm!

    • BerwynBomber

      Believe it or not, I liked him coming into the draft. If only because I had seen three Toledo games last year (don’t ask). Kid ran hard.

      Btw, Toledo also has a QB (Logan Woodside) and a WR (Cody Thompson) whom NFL teams might be hearing about in a year or two. Woodside is probably a mid-round/back-up prospect. Thompson might have starter ability.

      Oh, and a young HC — Jason Candel — who might one day end up in one of the power conferences.

    • Scharfinator

      It’s like when you play Madden and create your own RB. Then you play a few games and realize you broke the game making him too good.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Hester as WR. Unbeatable.

        • Scharfinator

          Yeah, just send him on a deep route every play and if their safety cheats… zooooom

    • Goodwill Hunt-ing!

      He was my absolute FF target. Hope he keeps it up. He looked good in PS, and he looks like a baller now.

      That last game when he somehow stretched for a TD while 2 Dlinemen contorted his body at the goalline was crazy. I thought he would break in half.. No problemo for Hunt.

      Kids gonna be good. I held my love for him in the PS so Da Blog wouldn’t vulture my pick!

      I think Cooks is going to be good too in that Vikes O (if Bradford returns).

      • Irish Sweetness

        Samaje Perrine is going to break out too …. and that Carson dude, wow.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But we picked two players instead of him. One was Adam Shaheen.

      Anyone here do that again?

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog If I’m Eli Manning, I tell Ben McAdoo to go fuck himself. Eli has two titles and HoF resume. McAdoo has achieved what, exactly?”

    Thought the same (though I’d dispute Eli’s HoF resume).

    But what McAdoo did was extremely two-faced. You cannot say you assume all blame/responsibility for a loss, and then, in the next breath, toss a player under the bus. That is some Kromer-level lowness there.

    • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

      Eli is top 10 in a several categories, like yards and TDs. Throw in the 2 SBs, I am pretty sure he makes it in.

      • BerwynBomber

        But counter-balancing that stuff are his career efficiency and TO numbers, which are in Cutler territory.

        If nothing else, I’m assuming he would have to wait a good many of extra years.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          As for the TO numbers, Favre leads everyone by a lot. You play that long there are going to be a lot of TOs. 200+ consecutive starts and counting. I am not saying he will be a 1st ballot, but he has enough to get in.

      • willbest

        Eli’s other problem is that he ends up getting compared to the other Manning in addition to his contemporaries.

        In another time Eli makes it but when you look at his generation including Peyton, Brady, Brees, R-Berger, and Rodgers do you really think a 6th QB should be headed to Canton?

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          Eli numbers are just as good or better the R-Berger in a lot of categories. More Yards, More Completions, More TDs, same number SB.

          • willbest

            sure but Ben’s career completion % is 64.2 vs. Eli’s 59.8. Ben’s yards per attempt is 7.9 vs. Eli’s 7.1

            Eli throws an INT 3.1% of the time vs. Ben’s 2.7%. Granted Roth likes to get sacked a lot 7.1% vs. Eli’s 4.6%.

            And Eli having more TD’s is simply a function of playing more games, as Ben averages 1.65 TDs per game to Eli’s 1.6. Now there is a lot to Eli’s Iron Man bit but He has only won 54% of the games he has started. Roth wins 67% of the games he has started.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            and Brees only won 50% of his games. at first glance he eventually gets in.

          • willbest

            Brees is #1 all time in completion % at 66.6% and if he plays to the end of the 2018 season he will be #1 in passes completed, passing yards, and #2 on TD passes. all while maintaining a top 10 career Passer rating.

            Jay Cutler’s career passer rating of 85.8 is better than Eli’s 83.7.

            Eli Manning has never lead the league in TD’s, passing yards, yards per attempt, or any of the meaningful MVP categories, but he has lead in INTs 3 times. His high career stats are due to him being a tough son of a bitch and not missing a game, and nobody would consider that enough on its own. The only reason we are even considering him for Canton is the 2 SB rings, and who he had to beat to earn them.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            like i said before he eventually gets in.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yet one is a great quarterback – great – and the other is a cock.

          • BerwynBomber

            Except efficiency. R-berger’s career PR is ~10 points higher than Eli’s. That is very substantial and indicates a clear delineation in tiers.

        • Eli is maybe the 10th best QB of his era. Should that be a HOF resume? Absolutely not.

          Will it be? You bet your ass. He played at a solid level for a long time and won 2 titles. At any other position, that gets you a cushy media gig. At QB, that gets you into the HOF.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If Eli gets in the Hall, then it’s a fucking joke.

      • Waaaayyyy too many TOs.

        Then again, look at Favre.

        Be interesting to compare Favre v Eli stats, even though they played in slightly diff eras.

    • BearDown100393

      McAdoo wouldn’t even be the HC without Eli.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not to defend Eli but…

      The Giants, again, have no running game and have already allowed 9 sacks this season.

      Their shortest 3rd down last week was 3rd and 5 but mostly it was 3rd and double digits to go.

      Giant receivers were dropping balls like they were Bears.

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    • When you look like a professional pedo…
      Also, he gave up play-calling duties.

      WTF?

      Isn’t that HIS thing, offense?
      It’s not as if the D needs more attention.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Eli is a cock.

  • Malice Halice

    I rather have that retired steelers coach or Gruden. We need a coach that won’t take no shit from ANYBODY. All our head coaches were a bunch of quiet wimps I’m tired of that. We been gettin our ASSES HANDLED for like 5 years and I’ve NEVER seen our coach lose their shit on the sidelines or even the post game interview. I rather have Rex coach or SOMEBODY wit TESTOSTERONE! This shit is gettin ridiculous in Chicago.

    • Scharfinator

      Rex, really? I get your sentiment, but Rex quit coaching a year before the Jets fired him.

      • BearDown100393

        He’d take the minimum as long as the offer included a poloroid of Virginia’s feet.

    • antityco

      I watched Ditka scream and get out coached in all but one year. I want a smart coach.

      • SC Dave

        THIS!

      • Irish Sweetness

        “In all but one year.”

        Jesus Christ, talk about cherry-picking. We’ll take the Lombardi, but I just wish the coach was smarter. FML.

        How many superbowls do we have, and who was the coach that won it?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think if Gruden were coming back to coaching, he would have BEEN back by now.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        I agree, however he has been quoted recently that he does get that itch to coach again.

        • Scharfinator

          Always gets quoted. I don’t think he has it anymore anyway.

          • AlbertInTucson

            In football years, he’s been away from the game for a LONG time now.

        • There’s a powder for that, I think.

      • BearDown100393

        In all seriousness, Gruden and Manning should hook up to run an elite football academy. The amount of intell to be gained by those two would revolutionize game IQ.

    • evantonio

      chuck knoll? you think he’s available?

      • SC Dave

        Hahaha… he was, of course, talking about The Chin.

        • evantonio

          ohhhh. that guy. makes more sense than the dude who’s dead.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The guy Arkush says was our last HC …

  • 505Bears

    It will be sad on Sunday to see it is a Steelers home game. If that does not tell the powers that be that something needs to change, then they truly are clueless…..and yes, the Steeler bums travel well, but I am predicting it will be Heinz field north..ugh

    • BearDown100393

      McCaskeys don’t caaaarrrreeeee

    • Well, at least Solider Field will cheer the Bears…when they fuck up.

  • Johnnywad
    • willbest

      Yeah, I won’t let my boy play. Plus there is more money in baseball if you are one of the 500 best players.

      • evantonio

        trying to encourage left-handedness in my boy. LHPs can get millions more than their right-handed counterparts.

        #rightarmsmatter
        #leftprivilege

        • SC Dave

          Lefties are just specialer. Live with it.

      • CanadaBear

        The only real issue with that is toiling away in the minor leagues. Terrible pay, awful bus rides and sometimes getting buried in an org.

  • willbest

    “Tarik Cohen probably should’ve just let that punt die and be downed.
    That was the smart play. But he saw an opportunity to make a play and he
    took a chance. It just really did not work for him at all.” – AD

    It was completely stupid on his part. If defenders are 2 yards from you, you have no chance at securing the football before they are on you.

    “The offense, meanwhile ranks in the top five in number of plays and time per drive and they’re eighth in yards per drive.”

    The dink and dunk clock kill method.

    Pace’s short list should be

    1) Jim Bob Cooter
    2) Matt Patrica
    3) Josh McDaniels
    4) Dave Toub
    5) Bruce Arians

    • Sahr Gborie

      why is the man from Michigan not on this list?

      • willbest

        Because the McCaskey’s don’t have $50 million to buy him out of the contract with.

        • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

          I just quickly read Harbaugh’s contract. I did not see anything about a buy out of that size. Only thing I saw was he would have to pay back signing bonus.

      • BearDown100393

        Just asking why on earth would Jim Harbaugh leave Michigan to work for Virginia McCaskey?

        • Irish Sweetness

          And why would we want him? No shouters.

    • BearDown100393

      Cohen’s mistake was inexcusable stupidity. There was no positive play to be made.

      • SC Dave

        Whatever. Are you going to continue with the unrelenting negativity? Do you enjoy being that way?

        • 16-0!

          • BearDown100393

            Not this season (again)

        • BearDown100393

          Don’t get me wrong Dave, I like the kid and think he has a tremendous upside to his career. But it was a mistake and nothing was there to glorify about.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Rookie mistake. Failed to weigh risk/reward.

        Back in the day, I saw Lem Barney, of the Lions, swoop in and do that to 2 or 3 Bengals watching a ball roll around.

        Lem returned it for a TD.

        Of course, Lem was also a notorious fumbler of punts.

        Oh, and get used to it.

        Whenever Trubisky saddles up, he’ll do some stupid things, too.

        • BearDown100393

          Yep, rookie mistake. Move forward.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Learn from it, hopefully.

    • The Lions still haven’t extended Caldwell.

      He’s basically on a lameduck 1 yr contract, which makes me wonder if THEY aren’t gonna promote Cooter to HC.

      • BearDown100393

        Or maybe Caldwell does not want to return?

        • CanadaBear

          I get that but there aren’t many jobs around that pay THAT kind of money! All things being equal, you never know.

          • BearDown100393

            Detroit will always be…. Detroit.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Chucky is better than all of them.

      Riddle me this. WHY, oh why, does a minor coach or co-ordinator have the credentials to manage MEN? Chucky’s been there and done it – WON a super bowl. And he’s looking for a job as HC. NONE of those names has shown they can lead men and be a Head Coach.

  • Bender McLugh

    How do the defensive numbers loo if you remove the short field situations immediately after a turn over? I’ll bet no where near as bad.

    • SC Dave

      I wonder. The big problem was so few 3 and outs. When I watcjed the atlanta condensed, the announcers had a comment that the Falcons averaged two 3-and-outs all 2016, and that in the first half the Bears had already forced three.

      DAMN it sucks losing Freeman.

  • willbest

    Interesting, the WSJ has noticed that scoring this year is way down. And in fact I saw a stat that the average QBR through two weeks is ~49 where last year’s average among qualifying QB’s was ~57.

    • Johnnywad

      #theglennoneffect

    • Bad Olines.

      It’s pretty much accepted that they take longer to gel, but with the limited PS reps and injuries, they’re taking esp long to emerge.

      Be interesting to see if this is still the case by mid-season.

  • CanadaBear

    Why would he leave Michigan? He can make up to $20 mil/year there, he’s treated like royalty and he constantly has new athletes that aren’t sick of his shit and ready to kill him.

    • Yeah, but Harbs is ULTRA competitive.

      Maybe there’s something in him that’s burning a hole about how he got unceremoniously ejected from the NFL.

      Let’s hope.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “…unceremoniously ejected… ”

        I disagree.

        I think HE told San Fran to go pack sand.

        “Shove it, Jed. I don’t need THIS job, YOUR money or YOUR crap. I can make a pile of money elsewhere, including my Alma Mater. Hasta la vista, baby!”

        • CanadaBear

          My take on it is SF mgmt tried to bluff with an obviously losing hand and Harbaugh just walked away shaking his head.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He’s making more money AND, bonus, doesn’t have Jed York for a boss!

      • CanadaBear

        I get what you’re saying but at some point even that knucklehead has to admit he’s in the perfect situation for himself and his family.

  • King of DBB

    From IBT in UK:

    Kim Jong-un’s regime publicly executed 11 musicians accused of making a pornographic video by strapping them to the barrels of anti-aircraft guns and blowing them to pieces, a North Korean defector has claimed.

    Hee Yeon Lim, whose late father was a senior officer in the country, said the musicians’ body parts were then run over by tanks “to smash them into the ground until there was nothing left”.

    The 25-year-old defector said 10,000 people were forced to watch the gruesome spectacle as it unfolded in a sports ground at the Military Academy in Pyongyang, not long after Kim Jong-un took over as supreme leader following his father’s death in 2011.

    Hee Yeon, who fled to South Korea following her father’s death, made the shocking claims during an interview with the Daily Mirror.

    “We were ordered to leave our classes by security men and made to travel to the Military Academy in Pyongyang,” Hee Yeon said, speaking under a pseudonym due to fears for her safety.

    “There is a sports ground there, a kind of stadium. The musicians were brought out, tied up, hooded and apparently gagged, so they could not make a noise, not beg for mercy or even scream.”

    “What I saw that day made me sick in my stomach. They were lashed to the end of anti-aircraft guns. You could see them struggle in the ropes they were tied up in, madly trying to slip the ropes and escape. The soldiers would mock their struggles and then jam them with bayonets while generals lectured us on the dangers of sexual feelings.”

    “There were around 10,000 people ordered to watch that day and I was standing 200 feet from these victims. The gun was fired, the noise was deafening, absolutely terrifying, and the guns were fired one after the other.

    “The musicians just disappeared each time the guns were fired into them. Their bodies were blown to bits, totally destroyed, blood and bits flying everywhere. A red vapor started to loat toward the crowd and people were screaming and convulsing on the ground. The army kept telling the people that unclean thoughts and deeds would lead to this and it was better that they were blown to total oblivion.”

    “And then after that, military tanks moved in and they ran over the bits of bone and skulls on the ground where the remains lay. The tracks of the tanks were run over the remains and blood repeatedly, over and over again and made to grind the remains, to smash them into the ground until there was nothing left but red smears all over the concrete.”

    “I felt desperately ill from witnessing this. It was so horrible and I could not eat for three days as it made my stomach churn.”

    I feel this is metaphorically what Halas Hall is doing to Chicago fans.

    • CanadaBear

      Don’t suppose Justin Bieber has an opening in his tour schedule?

      • willbest

        I am pretty sure he does. If I recall correctly, China has barred him from entering the country.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s stopped touring I believe. Just decided to stop doing it.

    • Corporal Clott

      Yes, they are also lying to us.

    • Sometimes I wonder what Caligula would do with modern tech.
      I think I just got my answer.

      • King of DBB

        She has another story, too.

        He drives around Korea and finds the cutest teenage girls he can at schools. They have to come back to the palace and give him rubs and service him, and feed him caviar. If they don’t, they and their whole family is made to disappear. He also eats something called Chinese Duck Egg Drop Soup, which seems like a normal thing you can get here, but I guess it costs $1600/pint over there.

        That seems pretty Caligula to me.

        • I’m beginning to feel like I did with Sadaam and his sons. Maybe take them out just for humanitarian purposes.

          But alas, politics….

          • King of DBB

            True story –

            I go downtown to the Looking Glass (it’s in the Water Tower) to see “A Bengal Tiger in the Bagdad Zoo.” with my GF.

            We sit down and – I am not bullshitting – Rahm sits in the row in front of me. With it appears two colleagues, or bodyguards, and his wife.

            I’m watching these scenes where Qusay and Uday are prowling the stage talking shit – and all I can do – like ALL I CAN DO – is watch Rahm watch the play. I sort of half watch the play. In New York, Robin Williams played the Tiger – here a far lesser actor is doing it.

            The play – honestly – is not great. But here’s is Rahm – and while Obama and Rahm were not yet in the WH when the brothers were taken out by the USMC – all I can think of is “this guy knows every little aspect of this story that is bullshit and 10 more stories that SHOULD be in this play.”

            It was weird.

          • That is like some John Malkavich surreal shit there.

            Should’ve yelled out “sic semper tyrannis!”

            See what would’ve happened.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Somebody would have turned around and told him to stop speaking foreign?

        • SC Dave

          It’s amazing what inbreeding and dynastic privilege can do to people.

          • “I think I am becoming god”
            Last dying words of emperor Vespasian

            (and he was considered relatively humble)

        • Irish Sweetness

          God knows what Trump et al do in their private time when no one is watching.

  • King of DBB

    Raiders – Pats game Nov 19th in Mexico City cancelled.

    • BearDown100393

      Where is it going to be played now?

    • willbest

      Earthquake must have caused structural damage to the stadium.

      • SC Dave

        Yup

      • The odd part is, since Mexico City is built on a swamp (talk about engineering by the Aztecs), earthquakes don’t jolt it as much.

        The same principle is applied to many modern skyscrapers. I think they have like ‘rollers’ at the bottom so that it kind goes with the flow as opposed to just violently jolted and cracking.

        • willbest

          Taipei 101, has a giant ass ball on a string that opperates as a counterbalance

          • Dang. That’s pretty nuts. I wonder why between the 82nd and 90th floor?

            Must be some sorta structural engineering shit.

            700+ tons.

        • SC Dave

          Actually, Mexico City is a case study in where to NOT build a city for earthquakes, since liquifaction of the soil is highly likely. LA actually, IIRC, has the same problem.

          • Well, that whole city is slowly sinking. It’s kinda crazy. Some parts are sunken. And soooo many ppl. Like NYC on crack.

  • Sahr Gborie

    https://www.windycitygridiron.com/2017/9/20/16339566/searching-for-john-fox-replacement-ryan-pace-harold-goodwin-bruce-arians

    Cardinals offensive coordinator Harold Goodwin as HC for the Bears after Fox is gone if we can’t get the man from Michigan. Is he a good alternative?

  • AlbertInTucson

    R.I.P., boxer, Jake LaMotta.

    • BearDown100393

      Ya burnt da steak!

    • Irish Sweetness

      HE WAS ALIVE!!!!??

      • AlbertInTucson

        That was MY initial reaction, too.

  • BearDown100393

    Anyone watch the Dan Marino Football Life on NFL Network?

    Good stuff.

    • SC Dave

      A case study in frustration, I imagine. Super Bowl loss in second season, then never back despite being arguably the best QB ever to play the game.

      • BearDown100393

        Sort of. Marino seemed at peace with it. A lot of focus on his father.

        • SC Dave

          Glad to read that. In the end, he cannot change it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Those are all usually pretty interesting.

      • BearDown100393

        Good stuff.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ll check it out thanks.

  • King of DBB

    U.S. v. Weiner, 17-cr-00307, U.S. District Court, Southern District of New York

    Being tried today. Will be in law textbooks for-EVAH.

    “A case in which a former congressman sent dick picks to underage girl via the social media apps. No real precedent or point of law is illustrated by this case, it’s just fun to say “US vee Weiner”.

  • EnderWiggin

    Pretty good read with Rapelisberger comparing his road to starting with Trubs’. http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/ben-roethlisberger-on-bears-qb-mitch-trubisky-tremendous-athlete/amp/

    • SC Dave

      The salient point is that the Steelers team Ben started for his rookie season was far, far better than the current Bears squad.

      • BerwynBomber

        Steelers were 6-10 the year before R-berger’s rookie season.

        Certainly, better than the Bears. But not by any gigantic margin. And nothing suggested R-berger would go 13-0 as a rookie starter.

        • Johnnywad

          Ben did have a lot more game action in college though. Albeit in the MAC.

    • “Roethlisberger credited his defense, a strong run game and veteran teammates for the Steelers’ success in 2004.

      TheBears lack any of the above. Through two weeks, they rank in the bottom
      quarter of the NFL in points allowed, yards allowed and rushing yards
      gained. They don’t have a go-to receiver, and one tight end has more
      than two catches.If the Bears are waiting for the perfect time to start him, this ain’t it.”

      Counterargument? Glennon.

      • Bender McLugh

        All about that counterargument

    • BearDown100393

      Also had decent coaching.

  • King of DBB

    Patty’s Bob Kraft spent $20M of his own money to buy the Northeast’s Overwatch team

    https://www.engadget.com/2017/09/20/overwatch-league-first-season-begin-january-10th/

    Comcast bought THREE Overwatch teams.

    Esports. Like, WTF?

    • Bender McLugh

      Follow the money

  • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

    There was shooting at the local High School today. My nephew was luckily not there, all my friends kids are safe. The shooter entered the cafeteria shot one student, then a teacher was able to force the kids arm up shooting the rest into the ceiling before being able to subdue him.

    • BearDown100393

      Horrible. Where was this?

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        Mattoon IL

        • BearDown100393

          Every parents’ worst nightmare.

    • Wow. Glad ur nephew is ok.

      That teacher deserves a medal. No doubt saved lives.

      • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

        My nephew left the campus for a doctors appointment and was returning when the school was being evacuated. My friends daughter was at a table next to the shooter as he entered the cafeteria. He shot one student, then pointed the gun at a student sitting with my friends daughter, when a female teacher was able to subdue the student and forced shots to be fired into the ceiling. Thank god for the heroic efforts of the teacher. The one student that was shot is in stable condition. Could have been a lot worse.

        • I’m curious if the campus used an emergency text system?

          On our campus the students had the option of getting an emergency text from the college for just such incidents (though obviously students aren’t supposed to be checking their cells in class, but if they’re around campus, should work in theory)

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            not that I am aware, there is a system that reports to parents via text, not sure if that is the same thing. It is a closed campus so students are not allowed off grounds without permission and it is just one building. I just talked to a friend of mine that is a police officer, there were over 100 police officers that responded. Police were on scene within minutes mainly because the police station is only about 10 blocks away. The students that were still in class were sheltered in place, students in the cafeteria were told to exit and run. Evidently all staff performed as they were trained in an emergency situations. He said that it took 10 minutes for some classrooms to be opened because the teachers had barricaded the doors so well to protect the students.

          • Wow. At least they barricaded. Smart. That’s good that the reaction time was so swift..

            It’s probably too little too late, but someone should bring up that emergency text system. Students have to volunteer to be on it, but if even only like 1/3 students have it, the word should spread about a shooter, bomb, etc.

            I think it works much the same way as an amber alert on your phone.

            If any parents are reading this, should look into it for your kid’s school.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How is it different to people…. just sending texts?

            And 2/3 of students are opting out of being alerted about shooters?

            If it’s a financial requirement, then fuck that school. I hate it when schools nickel and dime students who are already paying exorbitant fees.

          • “Modestly” Huge Bears Penis

            This just happened at a public High School, not a college, no exorbitant fees.

    • Johnnywad

      Man. What a scare. I’m glad he wasn’t there to see it.

    • Suns Out, Buns out, Ciggy In

      Terrible. Glad everyone is alive.

    • Irish Sweetness

      What happens if you then bury that piece up his ass and pull the trigger?
      Damage limitation hero, or murder?

      That’s a school.

  • Bender McLugh

    Excellent story about poopin’. Enjoy

    https://youtu.be/pU9xz2FpQc0

    • SC Dave

      “Who’s the pitchers in this game”

      lol… WHAT A FINISH

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  • ButtonShoes

    “But is Sean Payton the answer?”

    No! Jesus H. Christ, no.

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