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With Promising Roster and Declining Division, There’s Hope Aplenty for Bears Fans

| November 8th, 2016

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Aaron Rodgers may still be great. He probably is. But the team assembled around him by Ted Thompson, especially on the defensive side of the ball, isn’t very good. And somebody will probably lose their job in Green Bay because of it.

Minnesota’s defense is terrific. They have a young, talented roster and, in Mike Zimmer, a superb defensive mind. Their offense? Serious question. Do they have a single position on that side of the ball settled moving forward into 2017?

Detroit is Detroit – a middle of the road franchise with a middle of the road coach having a middle of the road season. Their season has only found that middle of the road because Matt Stafford is performing at the highest level of his life. He’s among a handful of candidates for MVP through the season’s first half.

And then there’s the Chicago Bears.

In this league, a team doesn’t need to be better than all thirty-one other clubs to make the tournament and compete for a title. All they have to do is be better than the three teams in their division. Then you catch a couple good matchups in the tournament and you can find yourself hosting the Thursday night opener eight months later.

Right now the Bears are 2-6. That’s what they are. But they are 2-6 having played five and a half games with their backup quarterbacks and most off all of the season undermanned at key positions.

But when it comes to the division, this 2-6 club is already pretty damn close. They beat Detroit decisively. They manhandled Minnesota. And before Matt Barkley’s appearance they were every bit Green Bay’s equal, even at Lambeau Field.

And honestly, this should have surprised no one. Especially if you read this blog.

The 2015 Bears were not a fine vintage. But outside of their blowout loss to the Vikings in Minnesota, the other five division games were decided by a total of 22 points. That’s 4.4 points per game. These games included a missed chip shot, silly overtime loss (that went on for days) and a Week 17 Bears AAA squad I was lucky enough to witness live.

The Bears are not good…yet. But they’re getting there. Defense? Getting there. Right now, using every available metric, the Bears have a top fifteen unit. (And it’s probably closer to a top ten.)

Run game? Getting there. Passing attack? If Cutler and Jeffery return, we know it’ll be reliable.

There are a lot of questions being asked about the teams in the NFC North moving from 2016 into 2017. And as we shuffle through November, the Bears may have more answers than their rivals.

That’s what makes the second half of this season exciting. The Bears have the arrow pointed up, clearly up, while the Packers and Vikings are dealing with disappointing swoons in seasons filled with big expectations. (Detroit is, you know, Detroit.) If they can win five or six of their final eight games, develop a rhythm on both sides of the ball and build momentum for the off-season, fans will no longer be in search of hope for this disappointing franchise. Hope will be right there on the field. John Fox may not lead the turnaround fans hoped for record-wise but he could oversee an enthusiasm renaissance much needed at Soldier Field.

Eight more games. Three in division. What happens between now and season’s end will greatly impact the balance of power in the NFC North for the coming years.

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  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Hope springs eternal on election day?

    • Orcs for Sauron PAC

      VOTE SAURON 2016!

      • Scharfinator

        Whoever made this log in for this tiny bit gag, I dig it.

        • Orcs for Sauron PAC

          STRIDER IS UNFIT FOR KINGSHIP OF GONDOR!

          VOTE SAURON 2016!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Got a turkey either way, eyeball. The illusion of democracy.

  • The Yes Guy

    YES

  • Bobby Douglass

    I have some hope for the Navy and Burnt’s future. But not yet Theo Epstein hope.

  • willbest

    Winning 5 or 6 games means going 5-3 or 6-2 in the second half. I don’t know if I have that much koolaid. I predict a 4-4 finish to land us a 9th-14th overall pick though. And yeah no guarantees in the draft but you do get 10 fewer options

    • 505Bears

      In that range, is there a QB worth drafting? Watching football (pro/college) this past weekend, I can’t say I would hate having #6 behind center next year given the alternatives.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      I got plenty of koolaid, and i will share. 8-0 through the rest of the season. PLAYOFF BOUND!!!!

      • 505Bears

        OOOHHHH, YEEEEAAAAHHHH!!!

        • CanadaBear

          He said in a Randy “Macho Man” Savage voice!

  • F–K Weed Superman (GP)
    • Huge Bears Penis

      makes sense. Both have possible mob ties. Both closely monitor opposing teams locker rooms, in Trumps case its walking in on women changing for his Miss USA pageant. Both lie cheat and steal to obtain what they want. Both have wanton disrespect of authority. Heck with their similarities they may be brothers.

      • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

        both have small hands

    • MB30SD

      that has GOT to be fake. he sounds like a 14 yr old girl. if that’s real… pathetic.

      • 505Bears

        Bellidude will be promoting his new product….MyKneePads.

  • CanadaBear

    “Passing attack? If Cutler and Jeffery return, we know it’ll be reliable.” When people say Jay is reliable it usually isn’t a compliment.

    • MB30SD

      Reliably sack fumble

      • MB30SD

        wait… is sack fumble hyphenated?

        • CanadaBear

          No judgements here!

        • Scharfinator

          Gotta drop that breadloaf

  • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

    Bill Maher frequents an Eyes Wide Shut Hollywood sex club where he fucks Paltrow.

    http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/brad-pitt-angelina-jolie-hollywood-stars-frequent-sex-club/

    • willbest

      I just assume the primary way one becomes an A-list celebrity is to be a cum dumbster.

    • willbest

      Incidentally, the wikileak spirit cooking Podesta e-mails have brought speculation that the Podesta’s have a sex chamber beneath their house due to the fact that they excavated a private viewing room for more complex “art”, and they are known for art that evokes disgust

      • Huge Bears Penis

        who doesn’t have a sex chamber beneath their house? or at least a sound proof pit of some sort where the screams will never be heard.

        • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

          MB has a hot tub in his sex pit

          • Scharfinator

            MB PUTS THE LOTION ON HIS SKIN OR ELSE HE GETS THE HOSE AGAIN

    • 505Bears

      I have the wrong circle of friends.

    • Doesn’t surprise me.

      Esp the Maher part.

      Sometimes I hear about Hollywood stuff like that, but never know what’s true or not. (Gerbil + Richard Gere)

  • willbest

    Green party needs to get their act together. The Water Reclamation Supervisor had 3 dems and 3 greens on the ballots. Really? If the Greens would have just fielded 1 candidate instead of 3, they would have a fighting chance, because I (and many other like me) will vote for the Communist party candidate over a democrat for any position inside cook county.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      commie bastard!

      • SC Dave

        Commie would represent a leap of freedom in cook county, no?

  • willbest
    • Scharfinator

      Suddenly the doomsday preppers don’t look so extreme.

  • Huge Bears Penis
    • willbest

      What Constitutes a Donald Trump polling location?

      • Huge Bears Penis

        i have not figured that out. But according to Trump they are all his polling locations.

        • willbest

          He does make the best ones. Incidentally Dana Carvey’s new Netflix has a solid impersonation of Trump if he were to go to the bat for climate change. The rest of his special is pretty bleh though

  • Well, as I always insist, vote your conscience.

    If that means voting for some tin-foiled candidate from the Freedom Party, or writing in Abe Lincoln in protest, so be it.

    If you don’t vote, you can’t bitch.

    • willbest

      Sure you can, well at least until Hillary outlaws it.

  • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

    Walt Anderson and his crew are going to be pulled from officiating the next 4 weeks.

    • haha, really?

      Good. Needs to be some punishment for incompetence.

    • SC Dave

      !?

      • willbest

        The officiating was so egregious that they could have announced during half time the Bills would be awarded 3 points and nobody in the football world would have objected except for Seattle fans.

        • SC Dave

          I know, I’m just shocked anything happened. Of course, it’s useless to Buffalo.

  • In Bears news, both Long and Sitton returned to practice and are expected to play.

    Considering how dominate their backups performed vs a stout Vike’s D, shouldn’t we sit them both for another week to see what we have in Kush and Larsen?

    Esp Long who I think can only fuck up his shoulder/arm more.

    • willbest

      If they aren’t going to put them on IR, they should play. I think they should put Long on IR though.

    • SC Dave
    • Jokey

      Yep. But it’s gonna be like McPhee last year – tough it out even if the season is moot.

      • Scharfinator

        Might be part of being a gritty team with heart. You play ALL of your games.

      • CanadaBear

        Pretty sure that’s why McPhee missed the first 6 games.

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    “The Bears are not good…yet. But they’re getting there”…. and pure “gold” from a “man” in his return.

  • Doc Nitty

    I vote….

    Anarchy

    • We should just become Somali pirates.

      • Sactowns#1

        I am the captain now!

      • SC Dave

        Um, wait a few years to see if Hillary guts the US Navy first.

  • I agree that the Bears could def compete with anyone in this division, but there’s still a lot of question marks.

    I think perhaps the biggest thing we need is depth (that’s what she said!)

    Our Dline has done well in the run, but behind Goldman, we got nothing at NT really.

    Callahan goes down, we’re riding with Bausby-types.

    God forbid Amos goes down.

    On O, I think we’re a lil deeper, so far. Both Kush and Larsen showed something last week, and Howard/Carey are solid with the wildcard Langford.

    Most likely, we’re re-signing Alshon, + Meredith/White/Bellamy (and lest not forget Wilson/Royal/Bravermen who will only stick if they show something, if not, we can find a 4rt/slot without much resources).

    TE we can upgrade, but Brauck has played a lot more snaps and intrigues me.

    QB can be our deepest position going forward (oh, the irony!)

    If we keep Cutler, Hoyer has shown more than capable, and Shaw is our “developmental” QB who impressed (this is not even counting the draft QB).

    In spite of the record, I feel we’re close to WC contention.

    Another pass-rusher, upgrade at RT (could be Long, and promote Kush), CB (Fuller another Wildcard) and slot WR, with some depth, and we’re ready to roll.

    And perhaps the most important part is that both Birdcage and Fangio have finally opened things up from the vanilla shit they were doing like the first 3-4 games.

    Heck, we even saw our first bootleg and Unrein sighting (only took him 8 fucking weeks)!

    • willbest

      If we find our way to 5-6 I will be dutifully playing with the playoff calculator trying to figure out how to get us to the WC, but if we aren’t at least 1 game under .500 by the time week 14 rolls around (6-7) we aren’t going to have a shot.

      @Bucs, @NYG, TEN, 49ers… There is a good chance to go 3-1 in that before we hit some critical division games.

      • Totally possible.

        Crazy to think, but we’re only like 4-5 plays away from posting a winning record now.

        If Hoyer hits ALshon. If Meredith doesnt fumble. If Carey catches that ball. If Barth makes a kick. If Porter doesn’t fall and allow the go ahead TD. If all those penalties didn’t stall drives in the redzone. I

        Those mistakes are correctable, and gotta think, the law of avg will swing back our way, esp with calls and injuries.

        • willbest

          That was last year too though. We were 2 plays away from 8-8 and something like 5 plays from 9-7

          • Yeah, pretty much. That’s why I said the biggest hurdle we have to jump is learning how to win those games.

            I still think we needed that ONE game to change that losing mentality. Hopefully this past MNF game is the one that righted that ship.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Mistakes good teams do not make.

          • To a certain extent, you’re right.

            I would amend it saying that good teams have the depth and mentality to overcome mistakes (Raiders 24 penalties and still won).

            But yeah, mistakes at the WRONG time, esp in the redzone, usu means losses.

      • SC Dave

        We need 4-0 there tho

      • AlbertInTucson

        Lets get 1-0 first.

    • SC Dave

      Please no more talk of making one of the very best RG in the league into a slightly-above-average RT.

    • EnderWiggin

      Goldman’s backup has been unimpressive. A few times this season, I have wondered if we should have dropped Sutton and kept Ego Furgeson. Would Ego have been a better fit for NT?

      • willbest

        Ego has the bigger frame, but Sutton is all heart.

      • It’s hard to say. Ego is just there, which I guess is OK for a NT.

        Sutton gets pushed back a bit, or knives in, so it’s a bit more give and take with him.

        Either way, we need a better option, someone with more upside.

        • CanadaBear

          Ego got cut loose going to 53 in Sept.

          • Scharfinator

            Hah, not just there then :X

  • willbest

    The Onion’s election day coverage

    http://www.theonion.com/liveblog/onions-special-coverage-election-day-2016-54612/entry/28

    “Nevada…

    Most critical issue facing this state this election cycle
    Fracking: Protesters are hopeful that anti-fracking restrictions will allow Nevada to remain the pristine desert hellscape that God intended it to be.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      The Mob doesn’t want any of the holes unearthed, either.

  • So, according to Fox itself, it’ll take a “miracle”.

    Trump’s gotta win Florida. Big IF.
    Gotta win Michigan and PA. Even Bigger IFs
    Then gotta flip a big DEM state, nigh impossible.

    That’s along with winning all the other traditional REP states AND swing states.

    Trump already sounding like a loser, talking about seeing results b4 conceding.

    Like it matters?

    Unless he’s going to recruit a few generals and secede , who cares if he concedes?

    The tone on Fox is one of resignation, not energy. Strange.

    • 505Bears

      Maybe he can run for prince of Zamunda. https://goo.gl/images/6tB0n0

    • Jokey

      538 says there’s a 45% chance Trump takes FL, MI 21%, PA 23%, that multiplies to 2%, for that permutation, but it also says he has a 29% overall chance so there are a lot more outcomes. NYT says 15% fyi. http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/

      • Other ways are possible, like Trump taking a bunch of lil Dem states instead of one big one, but they’re even less likely.

        NC and Ohio aren’t given either, though the latter looks like it’ll fall to Trump.

        CNN says that Latino are coming out in record numbers, and they’re gonna bury Trump.

        Trump set back the repubican party BIG time, esp with Latinos.

        Texas , Nevada, New Mexico, Col and Florida are only gonna become more Latino. That does not bode well with the Reps.

        GW said “Family values don’t stop at the Rio”

        Trump, “Build that wall and make them pay for it!”

        Looks like they’re gonna be building something alright, a coffin for his campaign.

        • SC Dave

          Yep. Cant stop the invasion.

          • Just like the Irish invasion, or Italian invasion?
            Or Jewish “invasion” of Germany?

            Rep weren’t complaining when latinos were voting for them.

            Regan didn’t offer amnesty for nothing.

          • willbest

            Your understanding of the Reagan Amnesty deal is… suspect.

            And the jewish/irish/italian invasion caused the US to close its borders for 40 odd years.

          • willbest

            oh and the german/irish invasion was on its way to closing the border too but then the civil war happened and the US stopped being a destination place for opportunity for a little bit.

    • willbest

      1) Don’t watch Fox News, its not healthy.

      2) He is going to win Romney + Ohio and IA. That is 230. FL takes him to 259 he would need 11 more to win. It could come from PA or VA or CO + another state or NV+NH for a tie and a win in the House. If he does in fact win PA he won’t need FL, though he would need CO + NH +NV + ME2 or some such.

      We should actually know pretty early. If NC goes Clinton or PA goes Trump its going to be game over.

      • Jokey

        Nice analysis but PA or VA or CO are 77, 85, and 77% Clinton, way past the margin for error (about 3%, but has been 10% before). More likely, he’d get Florida, NC, NV, and NH. I’m just repeating what’s here: http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-election-forecast/#stateorder

        • And Michigan has gone Dem for like 6 straight cycles. 88 last time Rep won that state, I think.

          • willbest

            But they did get Republicans elected state wide since 2012.

          • willbest

            Oh and the black vote seems to be down about 10% from 2012. Which might be enough, if western michigan decides to show up. I doubt he does it, but there is a reason Hillary visited the state twice in the last week.

          • That might make sense since Obama maybe brought out the black vote more, but Latinos seem to be up to make up the difference, esp in certain states like Ariz.

            From diff polls, Af Am 12%, Latino %11

            Plus you add 52% white college grads, under 30 – 54% to clinton – plus women vote (something like 54% or higher).

            In other words, the ONLY demographic that Trump seems to win is the uneducated white vote, which makes sense.

          • willbest

            uncredentialed. Plenty of people without degrees that are educated. The feminist with a 4 year degree serving me coffee when she could have been serving me coffee with just a high school diploma is uneducated.

            Like I said, I don’t expect him to win the state, but it might be enough. Apparently several Philly precincts which were hopping when Obama was running are pretty empty now. But then Drudge called (or implied) PA for Hillary early.

          • Yeah, but the education could cut both ways.

            Someone with a degree from ITT can vote Trump too.

            I would actually like to see WHERE those degrees came from too.

            I’m willing to bet that almost all those “educated whites” voting for Trump attended SEC or Evangelical colleges.

          • willbest

            Among my engineering buddies its 17-1 for Trump. Among my law school buddies its 18-5 Hillary. Although I will say only 3 of my engineering buddies made it out to California though none of those voted for her. It was the guy in Indiana that did that.

      • I love watching Fox.

        It’s like strolling through Goebbels’ dream.

        I love seeing how they try to spin even the most negative reality into positives for them. It really is masterful.

        Also, I pretty much know what MSNBC and CNN are going to say.

        BBC is cool to watch too since it’s from a different perspective.

        • Scharfinator

          I like Russia Today. Sure it’s funded by the Russian Gov’t, but at least we get to know their spin on it 🙂

          • willbest

            Were they the ones that showed Syrians overwhelming support Trump because he is the one least likely to bomb them?

          • The Russian and Al Jezera news are interesting.

            I think Russia still denies we went to the moon.

          • Sactowns#1

            23 hours of Putin coverage one hour of dashcam footage.

          • SC Dave

            What’s wrong with Russian dashcam footage?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfS3q36PH48

      • Captain Obvious

        IF he wins Florida, he MIGHT have a path IF he flips a blue state that hasn’t voted for a Republican since Al was in diapers.

        Not.
        Gonna.
        Happen.

        • willbest

          Al was in Diapers in 1984? I wasn’t even in diapers in 1984

          • Since Prince’s “When Dove’s Cry” was the top song on the radio.

            #BlueRain

            Highest grossing movie?

            “Beverly Hills Cop”

            So since Prince was alive, and Eddie Murphy was cool (and MJ still black)

  • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

    india starts the lockout towards cashless society

    http://www.bbc.com/news/business-37906742

    get ready for it here. govt. will declare $1s and $5s to be worthless first.

    • willbest

      By fiat or because we plan on going full Venezuela?

      • SC Dave

        The point is to control all money.

        • willbest

          Oh that I know. Gotta be able to tax every transaction.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And have direct access to it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yeah. “ONE WORLD”.

      WE want this country to be just like INDIA!

      • willbest

        There are a lot of positives to India. $5 blow jobs, and you can hire like 7 servants for $100 a month. Would never have to wipe your own ass again.

        • AlbertInTucson

          AND you can bate in the sewer known as the Ganges!

  • willbest

    I don’t know if Drudge is being sensational or calling states. It seems way to early for the latter.

    • Sactowns#1

      Drudge sensational? Drudge wrong? Why I never!

  • willbest

    Madonna isn’t going to give head to Hillary voters. Well then…

  • Huge Bears Penis

    for the last couple months there has been many debates on what is wrong with both Presidential Candidates, I admittedly skim over those posts. I think we are debating the wrong things, we should be looking at what would be right about the candidates.

    Hillary:
    1. Bill would be back in the White House with interns around.
    2. Bill would be back in the White House with interns around without the duties required of the President to somewhat inhibit him.
    3. Bill would be the First ‘Lady’

    Trump:
    1. No reality TV shows.
    2. Every President talks about how it is living in a bubble – which means Trump would be contained somewhat by Secret Service and other handlers.
    3. We could end up with Clintonesque sex scandal.

    If we don’t end up in a nuclear war the next 4 years could be highly entertaining.

    • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

      NATO is calling up 375k troops and asking them to move into east Europe

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Them lucky bastards, I hear east Europe is beautiful this time of year, also beautiful eastern European women what more could those troops ask for.

    • I don’t mind nuclear holocaust cuz Trump grabbed diplomatic pussy, but at least let someone with manhands not tiny lil orange troll hands press that button!

  • BearDown100393

    In Jay We Trust

  • willbest

    Hate to break it to you Jeff, recession is coming either way. And ZIRP is going to create a pension bomb, and not ZIRP is going to either squeeze the crap out of the government or blow the deficit wide open.

    • Sactowns#1

      Oh the rate hikes they is a coming!

      • willbest

        What play do you recommend?

        • Sactowns#1

          Mortgage opportunity stocks should fare nicely, for a bit. I imagine at the first gradual hike there will be a mad rush to refi.

          • MB30SD

            I find your ideas intriguing, where can i sign up for your (Fool-ish) newsletter

            (see how I did that?)

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      What do you mean a recession is coming soon? The only reason we haven’t tanked yet is because the Federal Reserve keeps the printing press going . Our economy has been kept up artificially until to time to pull the plug arrives. See GP’s post about the U.N.’s massive troop buildups in Eurasia. Pucker up your assholes boys, it’s going get hairy very soon imo.

      • willbest

        Soon is good. 6 years from now and I got to worry about them drafting my boys.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Eye propose forcing the Elite’s / El(Saturn)-ite’s to settle their disputes with duels and jousts in person. They want to start a war? Then saddle their asses up.

          • MB30SD

            good idea.

            A war/draft comes and I’m taking my babies to Sud Afrik my mains. I’m fucking outta here! Cause no one gives a fuck about SA. haahaha

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Yeah man. Itz insane. SA is suffering through a terrible drought. Joburg is down to 28% water supplies.

      • SC Dave

        I posted here a year or two ago that we’re way overdue for a war cycle. It’s coming.

  • Quote of the day,

    “Americans will pick corrupt over crazy.”

    • willbest

      That is looking like its true. Even if corrupt wants boots on the ground in Syria

  • willbest

    Cubs declined Hammel. Going to need a new 5th man for the regular season. Early favorite is WS hero Mike Montgomery

  • willbest

    Wow shooting at a CA polling place. One dead. People must be taking their p0rn very seriously.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Near polling place – not at.

    • Actually, not too far from me.

      I knew ppl who went to that middle school.

      Ppl getting shot in that city is not news.

  • Can someone explain how possibly the WORST state Florida decides presidents?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NWojvo6RKoQ

    • willbest

      God has a sense of humor?

    • Huge Bears Penis

      can someone explain why we need an electoral college?

      • willbest

        Helps to limit where the cheating occurs.

      • willbest

        The real question to ask is why we even need a Congress. They don’t read the bills the lobbyist write for us anyway. Why not just cut out the middle man and vote on those directly.

        • MB30SD

          love this! let’s do it!

          Bunch of lazy shifty worthless dickbags

          • Cormonster

            They all suck, except for my worthless choadball.

          • SC Dave

            The true essence of American politics.

      • The founders didn’t trust uneducated white voters.

        I think Madison coined it “Mobocracy”

        Ironic, isn’t it?

        • willbest

          They weren’t particularly generous with who they allowed to vote back then either. But in the pre-information age it actually makes some sense.

          You can’t be expected to be informed on all the relative merits of everybody, you spend 10 hours of your day just meeting your basic survival needs. So you and your neighbors get together and send a reasonably smart trustworthy to go talk it over with a bunch of other people from other villages.

      • MB30SD

        YES!

        One man, one vote baby!!!!

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Fail safe guarantee “they” stay in power.

        • willbest

          Which brand of tinfoil do you use? I am not mocking, I just want to be an informed shopper.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            It’s called truth.

        • Were the Federalist originally part of the “they” cuz they’re long gone, and they didn’t want to extend the right to vote.

          Like does it matter if Trump or Hillary were to win the majority and skip the electoral college?

          The PROCESS itself is set up for the banker’s and oligarchs to choose whomever they want with the masses simply assuming that’s democracy.

          • willbest

            Well occasionally the system fucks up and you get Andrew Jackson or Lincoln, or Reagan.

          • MB30SD

            not this year my man.

          • willbest

            I don’t expect that to be Trump. I just know for sure that a) Clinton isn’t; and b) The GOP didn’t want him.

          • MB30SD

            I dont know maings… kinda looking that way at this point.

          • MB30SD

            exactly, like it really matters in the end which of these two pieces of shit win.

            who cares, the machine will continue to crunch on (crunch us) as it was.

          • willbest

            Then vote for the best late night comedy!

          • MB30SD

            late night comedy?

            you mean late night show? Fallon or Jimmy

          • Cormonster

            Did you see the Wikileaks email from a guy at CitiGroup to Podesta with a list of appointments for Obama’s Cabinet? They pretty much picked over half his appointments, from Defense to Homeland to Atty General to Treasury, etc. Always figured it was the case, but still pretty stunning to seen it laid out.

          • willbest

            But lets be honest, Trump’s going to have that same list. I know he has burned a few bankers over the years but lets not pretend he doesn’t golf with them

          • Cormonster

            Yeah, I don’t see much real change happening unless the Federal government somehow miraculously shrinks in size and influence. I lost any remaining idealism about 8 years ago when I quit the Libertarian party.

          • MB30SD

            BingO!!!!!

          • That ended long ago with Alexander Hamilton, Corm.

            He argued (and won) that as the nation expands a strong central bank needs to replace state currency, and that the government in general needs to be strong (more laws) in order to prevent it from fragmenting into polis like in ancient greece.

            What we see now is sort of a grotesque grandchild of his ideology.

    • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

      Florida is the shit stain in the underwear of America.

  • MB30SD

    let’s get to the important stuff guys…

    I just got my new Pixel XL!!!!!

    • Huge Bears Penis

      you had a lot more street cred when you were carrying around the live hand grenade Note7

      • MB30SD

        fuck street cred, since it’s nearly impossible to get a CC license in CA I was using it as my conceal carry weapon. If I was attacked by ISSIs or just a run of the mill del mar gang thug… it was my go to. I feel naked now.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          you can still carry it around for personal protection.

          • willbest

            Well you got to keep it on. It needs to be warmed up first. Otherwise its just a rock.

          • MB30SD

            Magnums no less my maings

  • MB30SD

    dudes… the way CNNs is calling it, sounds like trump might win this thing!

    • Trump wins Florida, he has a shot.

      Then gotta win Michigan, PA, and a lot of other shit.

      Looks like Trump is losing Arizona though.

      Al your Hillary stumping worked!

      • MB30SD

        hahahaha…

        I honestly don’t give a shit which one wins at this point, nothing’s gonna change either way in the long run. meh, whatevs.

        How sad is that? SMH

    • willbest

      He is going to take Florida.

  • Seeing the breakdown of maps and counties only confirms my basic politcal theory.

    Politics is mainly geographical.

    If you live in rural areas, you probably want less government, less laws regulating man.

    If you live in timesquare or detroit, you probably don’t want a dude walking around with a magnum on his hip.

    • MB30SD

      then they’d hate me baby!!!

    • willbest

      You are correct. Any county R-B map shows it.

  • willbest

    So I heard about a week ago they took Trump’s twitter account away from him, that appears to have been a wise decision.

    • Yes, but that is not exactly inspiring in a presidential candidate when his babysitters have to put him in a social media time out.

      • willbest

        But it does show he isn’t going to go rogue and not listen to experts.

        • it was only for 10 days.

          Once he gains power and doesn’t have to listen, who knows?

          It’s like handing out a big contract to a DE.

          Incentive may ore may bot be gone.

          • willbest

            As I tell people from a pragmatic standpoint, Trump has lots of RE holdings, and a brand reputation. His ego won’t allow him to go full W. Hillary, on the other hand, made her money accepting bribes from foreign governments.

          • And Trump made his fortune from screwing ppl over.

            No guarantee he won’t go Wall St once elected.

            It’s not as if he’s more ethical than Hillary.

          • willbest

            But he is more competent!

          • Johnnywad

            Name somebody that made a fortune without screwing people over.

          • The guy who invented dildos.

            Oh wait…

          • Johnnywad

            Bwahahahahahaha!!!

            He does charge a bit much too.

          • willbest

            thread win

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Trump screwed over the banks didn’t he? Beat em at their own game.

          • MB30SD

            He will 100%…he a bidnizth man

      • SC Dave

        Oh gawd… like the chump that’s been there the past eight years?

  • BuddhaJoe

    Shit I figured it was rigged and the deep state had anointed Clinton but its actually close. Maybe they think Trump would be better for the MIC.

    • If Trump wins, he’ll say, “it wasn’t rigged!”

      • willbest

        He already vowed he would accept the results if he won. Hillary however professed it wasn’t rigged, so that will be the fun one.

      • BuddhaJoe

        I hate them both, but the good side effect if Trump actually won would be watching these phony-ass bourgeois “liberals” heads explode. I’m sick of phony ass corporate whores like Hillary pass off their right-wing nonsense as “liberal”.

        • willbest

          Its not right-wing! don’t throw that turd in my yard. Nobody on our side of the fence wants oligarchy

          • BuddhaJoe

            Yeah it is man. The closest thing to left wing in this country are the Greens, and they’d be considered centrist in any other first-world nation on earth. I think you’ve got some good ideas but you’ve attributed them to the wrong side,

  • willbest

    Futures markets are tanking btw. The Peso is dropping. How does the saying go “Buy the fucking dip?”

  • I think I just saw a worse combover than Trumps

    Nate Silver from 538

    http://images.rcp.realclearpolitics.com/320256_1_.jpg

    I think he’s Kyle’s cousin grown up

    http://southpark.cc.com/clips/153023/the-same-blood

    • willbest

      He has the best tweets. He predicted the Cubs had a smaller chance of winning the WS than Trump did the presidency after they were down 3-1

  • willbest

    I am going to assume the NYT algorithm is a bit bunk, unless Trump really does have that kind of lock on Michigan, and if he does its game over.

  • willbest

    It might be up to Utah to bring us to extra innings. Can McMuffin do it?

  • VA Hillary.

    Trump’s gonna have to win Michigan.

    • Col Hillary

      • willbest

        Or NH/NV, he is down in PA, but it looks like 95% of Philly proper is in. Wisconsin gives us the 269-269 tie

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Supreme Court 4-4?

          Obama stays in office?

          • Congress is the tie breaker.
            Congress is currently Rep, so that’ll be that.

          • willbest

            It’s the new one

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            What If ISIS invades San Diego with machine gun toting Toyota pickup trucks before the House can vote?

          • Then MB can handle that in SD with his gold-plated uzi

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Lol

          • MB30SD

            God damn it, it’s an AK!

            Philistines

    • BuddhaJoe

      Wouldn’t be a shock if he did, I live here. These people are certainly idiots, but they’ve also been royally fucked over by NAFTA and “free trade” and they know who signed those agreements.

      • Hillary is basically praying for Detroit to turn out.

        • willbest

          That is why she gave it a free Jay-Z and Bey concert or was that Philly. Or was that the Boss or Gaga? I can’t keep it straight which state she was bribing with which concert tickets

        • BuddhaJoe

          Wayne County is her only hope. Ann Arbor too;

  • willbest

    Green Bay Wisconsin is +26 trump it was +2 Romney. It looks like actual Packer fans might save me from becoming a packers fan. Its nice to not be wanted.

  • Looks like Trump will win unless Hillary wins out.

    Non-college whites esp in rural areas make their voice heard.

    More startling, it really was an urban v rural battle over America.

    That might be the new dichotomy.

    • willbest

      Well the rural can’t do it without the suburbs. There just aren’t enough of them

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      CNN has Clinton winning. It’s funny how the networks are calling their own game.

      • I’m watching CNN, doesn’t seem like it.

        In fact, they’re saying CLinton will have to win Wisc, Michigan and a few others where she’s trailing.

        Think they’re in disbelief.

        • willbest

          It’s a funnel at the Clinton rally in nyc

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          I’m following website coverage. Not getting the blow by blow.

          • I’m watching CNN and ABC.

            Both are saying Trump a heavy favorite.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Ooh the drama of it all…

          • willbest

            NBC won’t let go

  • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

    Trump grabbed America by the pussy

    • #rigged

      In spite of the electoral college, the pop vote is pretty much 49/49%

      Maybe Hillary should’ve paid attention to losing to Bernie in those rust belt states.

      #FeelTheBern

      https://media.giphy.com/media/l2JI29ccohFCPowxi/giphy.gif

      • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

        CBS showing Hillary convention center. I haven’t seen that many sad lesbians since Olivia Munn broke ranks.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Hahaha

  • Huge Bears Penis

    enough of the presidential election. let’s get some results on the major decisions for the 5 states of California, Massachusetts, Maine, Arizona and Nevada. IS POT LEGAL?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Trump: “We’ll have pot … great pot … we’ll have the BEST pot ….”

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Its HUUUUUUGE pot!

    • beninnorcal

      It is here in CA(shocker), but I know it lost in AZ. I don’t think it’s really legal anywhere until the feds say so though.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Mass and Nevada legalized it also.

  • willbest

    Gold up 5%, fail safes on the markets tripped

    • That usually goes up near the apocalypse.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        its coming. I am packing my bug out vehicle as we speak.

        • willbest

          Where does one hide during the apocalypse?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Canada.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      PA will recount

      • Huge Bears Penis

        might not need PA.

      • F–K Weed Superman (GP)

        PA has all these provisional ballots cast around Philly that need counting.

        Hill and Bill brought The Boss to Philly AND Bon Jovi. Both! And yet they could not deliver for her.

        • willbest

          They found more apparently

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      He is tribal after all.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yep. Fuck global warming and brown people. Ho – ly – shit. This won’t be boring.

      Whoever got elected .. .it was going to be a terrible decision either way.

      • MB30SD

        100% Irish

  • willbest

    They got sheriff joe

  • F–K Weed Superman (GP)
  • F–K Weed Superman (GP)
    • willbest

      It’s safer. You can’t take 50 million from the House of Saud and not deliver

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Wow, what will Bubba do if that happens?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Cubbies win WS.

    Irish beat the All-Blacks.

    Trump beats crooked Hillary.

    There’s got to be an undefeated run coming up for the Bears!

    NFC Championship : Dallas 17 Chicago 24

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  • Hillary not giving concession speech tonight . Likely gonna get the network out to fix the votes.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      CNN just reported she called Trump and conceded.

      • willbest

        What a fucking pussy. Having her manager Send her supporters home so she could cry in her room.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Drumpf is on Fox telling folk she called him already.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hard to talk when you are in shock.

  • Irish Sweetness

    So much for Polls, eh?

    • willbest

      There were 2 polls that called it for him.

      He probably won’t win the popular vote. Polls had Hillary up about 3% nationally. I told people on this board during the primaries that he routinely outperformed his polling by 2-2.5% when people got their privacy. Wisconsin was a surprised me. MI and PA not so much, they were both hammered by NAFTA, the whites there weren’t about to vote for the bride of its creator. And as I said, black turnout was both down and more pro GOP.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He won the only vote that mattered.

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  • willbest

    Here in IL Rauner spent millions but the GOP picked up 3 seats in
    the Assembly. That means he can veto things and not have the Dems
    override it.

    The Construction lobby also got their sequestration Amendment. The General Assembly can no longer divert revenue from the gas taxes to the general fund and it must be spent on roads. So the other government services should got to shit as the pension problem sucks more and more tax revenue but at least we will be able to get where we are going.

  • AlbertInTucson

    I dozed off!

    Did I miss anything?

    • SC Dave

      lol… I didn’t even watch, of course.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DEWEY DEFEATS TRUMAN?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Mick Jagger wonders if he’ll be asked to sing YOU CAN’T ALWAYS GET WHAT YOU WANT” at the inauguration.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Michael Moore, of all people, predicted this.

    • willbest

      Moore may be a fucking tool but at least he has met a Midwestern white.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Fact: The Canadian Immigration site has crashed.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      hahaha.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Eye’m just glad eye don’t have to suffer Hitlary.

    • Scharfinator

      A buddy of mine is Canadian and his FB status was something to the effect of “Now that the Canadian immigration website has crashed, please note that I am a Canadian by birth and an eligible employed bachelor.”

      I’m glad to see some humor in all of this.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Get ready for a roller coaster ride people. It’s going to be crazy.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    I’m not a Trump supporter but thank Zeus Hillary isn’t the next president.

  • Scharfinator

    The classic American voter – labelling others ignorant while you cannot spell.

    http://imgur.com/a/SUDfA

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