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Turn the Beat Around: Lots of Leonard Floyd Talk & Other Stuff Too!

| September 13th, 2016

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ADAM2ADAM ON LEONARD FLOYD

Leonard Floyd didn’t have a great day Sunday, expectedly for a raw rookie. But he almost never left the field. Jahns broke down his debut after film study:

“We got a fast, relentless team, guys that can do multiple things in any situations,” linebacker Jerrell Freeman said. “We got [outside linebackers] that can go out there and play seam/flat on some receivers.

“You see the young fella out there playing great.”

But sacks still matter most for Floyd. His takedown of Osweiler in the third quarter was his best play. He didn’t have a quick jump off the snap, but he fought through left tackle Chris Clark, reached the edge and quickly closed on Osweiler.

As Fangio predicted, there were moments when Floyd was overmatched. On Hopkins’ 23-yard touchdown catch in the second quarter, Floyd was stood up by Newton.

Play fakes negated Floyd’s speed at times, but he handled his run assignments well, which included squaring up with tight end C.J. Fiedorowicz. Floyd also was involved in six tackles, but he wasn’t on the field for Fuller’s 18-yard score on a tunnel screen.

“I feel good,” Floyd said. “But I’ve got some improvements to make.”

Adam Hoge had an interesting take on the Bears decision to play Floyd about 80% of the defensive snaps.

This, of course, does not mean that Floyd was the best option to play the most snaps at outside linebacker in Week 1. In fact, I would argue that the Bears coaching staff did not give its team the best chance to win by only playing Houston on 36 percent of the defensive snaps.

But I guess it depends on how you look at it. Which is more important: beating the Texans in Week 1 or getting your raw first round draft pick the most experience possible?

I guess we now know where the Bears stand on that question.

The Bears are committed to developing Floyd. And they are willing to sacrifice early success to do so.

THE EIGHTH BIGGS THING

Brad Biggs writes his 10 thoughts column every Monday and the column seems to grow every week. This week, right in the middle, was a bit about Roy Robertson-Harris that felt like it came out of left field but was nevertheless pretty interesting. Here it is.

8. Roy Robertson-Harris did not get much action in preseason but he still caught the eye of one national scout for an NFC team that I talked to before the finale at Cleveland. “They’ll want to keep him,” the scout said. “You mark my word.” The outside linebacker, who was an undrafted free agent from UTEP, got 14 snaps against the Chiefs (and two more on special teams) in the third preseason game and 12 snaps in the second preseason game at New England. He was shut down for the start of training camp with a heat-related illness. The Bears placed Robertson-Harris on the non-football illness reserve list on Aug. 30 before the preseason finale and that move shut him down for the entire season. Heat-related illnesses are serious business and the player and the team want to ensure he gets his body right.

He flashed enough that the Bears know they want to develop Robertson-Harris, who they really liked in the pre-draft process. They brought him to Halas Hall for a pre-draft visit and then pushed to sign him after the draft. On the non-football illness list, he will receive $333,000 this season.

Now, Robertson-Harris needs to see what he can do to improve as a player when he’s not able to practice with the team.

“It’s more of a mental game for me at this point just learning as much as I can with the playbook and just doing everything coach (Clint) Hurtt asks me to do, taking notes and making sure I am mentally still in the game,” he said. “Yes, it’s a bummer for me not being able to play my rookie season. I am really thankful that I am still being kept around.”

The most impressive play Robertson-Harris made vs. the Chiefs was when he lined up in the slot and Aaron Murray tried to a bubble screen to wide receiver Da’Ron Brown. Robertson-Harris blew up wide receiver Demarcus Robinson, who was attempting to block, powering through him to tackle Brown for a 3-yard loss. It was really impressive. Earlier, Robertson-Harris made sure his coverage responsibility at the line of scrimmage were taken care of and then pressured Murray, hitting him to the turf, as he threw a short pass to tight end James O’Shaughnessy.

“I wasn’t content with my performance,” Robertson-Harris said. “I am really just bummed out I didn’t get to play as much in preseason because of this. So at this point, I am not thinking about what I did and what more I could have done. I am thinking about staying in it mentally and getting ready for next year. Getting ready for OTAs next year.

“I’m taking extra notes for the vets. I will help these guys out anyway I can. I am feeling good about it. At the end of the day, I still have a job and an opportunity.”

I’m not sure I’ve ever heard of this guy.

BEST BEAT TWEET

I don’t plan to watch much Bears tape this season. It’s just so boring. So I’ll rely on the pros. And Adam Jahns had the same response to Sunday I did.

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  • Big Mike

    Front 7 did it’s job much better than last years group. They do need to get more pressure on the QB. If the offense avoids one turnover and gets a field goal, the Bears would have shot. Basically flipping 1 single possession would have made this a different ball game. Encouraging through 3 quarters.

    • Irish Sweetness

      They maybe need to think about swapping in Acho for Willie, he was manhandled in Houston.

      The jury is out on Fangio. I’m not a fan.

      We don’t have the tape on Loggains. Our first drive was great. With Meredith and Howard we’d be great more often IMHO.

  • Captain Obvious

    Yeah, weird in the middle of 10 things about a game to talk about a UDFA who’s on IR for the season.

  • Bender McLugh

    Music note – Jah Wobble is coming to Chicago, playing the Empty Bottle (love this venue).
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    Here’s one of his latest vids:
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    Thanks again to whoever turned us onto Pollstar.com, great site!

    • CanadaBear

      Love that site! I’ve been using it for 15+ years.

  • Bender McLugh
    • MB30SD

      Ha!

    • EnderWiggin

      “He’s drunk! But there he goes!”
      Classic

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  • BearDown100393

    Bears coach John Fox explained in his post-game press conference why he didn’t challenge the call, saying: “You don’t do too well with challenges on spots. If it’s not clear cut, it doesn’t get changed.”

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/chalk-talk/article-1/Why-didnt-Bears-challenge-spot/397a72cc-dfbf-44ad-a3e4-6c93af8786d2

    And then proceeds shortly thereafter to completely throwaway a challenge that had no chance of being overturned.

    Thanks Coach.

    • Scharfinator

      The throwaway challenge was so Lovie… Oh I messed up a few plays ago? Better throw one now!

  • Irish Sweetness

    I don’t plan to watch much Bears tape this season. It’s just so boring. So I’ll rely on the pros.

    Dude, you’ve just admitted you’re going to peddle other people’s opinions?

    Don’t worry Jefe, we’ll be watching, and re-watching, and pointing out your boy Whitehair destroy this offensive line from the Center position. Maybe he miraculously picks up protections and making the calls and snapping the football to the QB. I really hope he does.

    • Bender McLugh

      hey Irish, see that ledge? Step away…

      • Huge Bears Penis

        too late. go ahead and jump.

    • CanadaBear

      He had one bad play. WTF?

      • Irish Sweetness

        All things being equal, Larsen wouldn’t have fumbled in that game. He’s not the rookie.
        You’re right, it’s just one play. Let’s see how many more there are next week, and the week after. We’re building a team, I get it – but an experiment at Center is going to cost us our QB.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Freeman and Trevathan had 16 tackles and 12 assists between them. So that’s good.

    People I think would make us better if they were starting:

    Acho over Willie.

    Hall over Porter.

    Porter over Callahan.

    Howard over Langford.

    Meredith over White.

    Larsen/Kush over Whitehair.

    Start switching other OTs in for Massie and find a pass protector.

    • GPLDAN

      Some of your shit makes sense, but the Whitehair stuff I don’t get.

      • MB30SD

        Some

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s a guard. He’s not ready to play center. Hroniss is the Center. Larsen can do the job, currently Whitehair cannot. He’s a rookie guard, I just don’t know how people expect him to play NFL Center from the get-go. What did Larsen do wrong?

        • GPLDAN

          Larsen would have been bull rushed by Wilfork like a child in the path of Biggsy at Al’s #1 Italian Beef on 2-for-1 Tuesdays.

          He is also a chippy combative asshole, and probably did not do well with the calls, or listening to Long.

          • willbest

            We don’t know about Wilfork. He has a lot of miles on that body.

    • Johnnywad

      Goddammit Irish. Kush? Stop that shit.

      Look. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Kush

      California. University. Of. Pennsylvania.

      One NFL start despite being on six fucking teams in three years. He has never been good. Ever.

      • MB30SD

        It’s pointless Johnny, just laugh with us.

        Irish, you keep on keeping on m8

      • Irish Sweetness

        He should be activated. Larsen as Center. Kush as backup. Whitehair backs up Sitton/Long. This works.

        • Johnnywad

          And who goes inactive? Which DB comes off the roster to make room for that piece? If they felt Larsen was the better option, they could just switch them without activating anybody.

          Whitehair is going to be damn good IMO. I’m betting on two very solid outings next two weeks. By then, he’ll be settling in.

          Say you love him.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Going to be … is one thing. Right now, Cutler’s getting killed. That’s not all on the Center by any means, but it’s his job to snap the ball after calling protections. Right now that’s too much for him. Am I blind? Does everyone on this blog think Whitehair should be the starting Center?

            Wouldn’t it better if Whitehair came in for Sitton or Long when they went down? Larsen is more important to us as a C not a G. Right now.

          • Johnnywad

            Larsen can’t block.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      don’t forget to promote Braverman from the practice squad. get Terry “Fucking” Williams and and Tayo Fabuluje back.

      • MB30SD

        Smfhayi

      • Irish Sweetness

        We could use Terry and Tayo right now. Terry wasn’t blocked once in pS.

    • willbest

      Acho is a jag. Willie earned his contract. He had a bad game.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      You had me at Trevathan and Freeman….

  • GPLDAN
  • I love the Hoge take on Floyd (and same goes for Whitehair getting thrown in at C with a week to prepare). Compete in 2016, but priority is still to build the best possible team for ’17-18, when you should have had time to build an actual contender.

    For that to happen, guys like Whitehair, Floyd, White, and Goldman need to be stars. That means they play a bunch this year, even if they don’t play all that well.

    They should also be playing the young CBs to figure out what they have for next year. Porter’s not the solution, so find out if Glenn/Hall can be. Experiment with your safeties to figure out exactly what you have.

    When Brauneker gets healthy, get a look at him at TE. Figure out which of your RBs will be part of the solution next year.

    If you’re 30 and not at least a 3-year answer (Sitton, Young, Cutler), you should not be playing. Go into the offseason knowing exactly what you have with all your young guys, so you know exactly what you need to upgrade. We already know RT will need to be addressed, likely TE too. Figure out how much you need everywhere else, especially at RB, CB, and S.

    • FWIW, my beef with White on Sunday wasn’t that they played him so much, it was how they used him. Put him in positions to succeed based on what he can do right now. Add to that as he gains confidence.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        White was used as a decoy that worked in the first half until Houston figured it out. He’s not ready yet. With a year off sitting in on film, he should have brought his A game. I’m smelling wasted pick.

        • Scharfinator

          Hard to say.

          Maybe he had some first NFL game jitters.

          Maybe doing this shitty will get him fired up. A lot of people vow not to get embarrassed for repeating mistakes. Let’s hope he’s one of them.

          Maybe he is dookie.

          • willbest

            He had a pulled hammy early in the week and he showed no speed. So either they have been blowing smoke up our ass for over a year, or he couldn’t do all the things that would allow him to succeed.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            His hammy was bothering him which supports my decoy theory but his route running? That’s the part that concerns me.

          • CanadaBear

            Let’s hope so. He didn’t strike me as one of those blazers you see at WR. Not saying he didn’t look fast but his speed didn’t jump off the screen like you would expect. Probably just the hammy. I don’t think he’s lazy (you can’t look like that without a lot of work) but I’m really concerned he looked so lost.

    • Irish Sweetness

      For the jury.

      Glenn/Hall are our two best corners regardless of the health of Fuller/porter. Bausby is on the PS, he’s good. Corner looks fine.

      Safeties look fine. We have our two best safeties, no? Amos was our top tackler last year. HQJ is looking like a future stud.

      Pass rush? Problem. Trevathan and Floyd and the CBs should be sent at these bum QBs more frequently.

      • GPLDAN

        Jacoby Glenn <<< Porter.

        Man, if you didn't see that on Sunday, you do not know football. Come on….

        • I actually thought Glenn was better than Porter on Sunday. Porter got beat deep too often.

          Glenn did a great job of contesting mid-long range throws in the air. What he has to work on now is not giving such a huge cushion that makes underneath stuff too easy.

          • GPLDAN

            Data –

            Who had the pick? Hall is better than Glenn.

          • who gave up the TD? Porter.

            WHo also got burned for a 90 yard TD right before half that he’s lucky the rookie dropped because he couldn’t stop it? Porter

            Who was 5 yards away from DeAndre Hopkins when he dropped not one but two wide open balls in the end zone? Porter.

            Don’t cloud your judgments based on one play.

          • GPLDAN

            The TD was Hopkins making an insane catch. That’s why he’s rated like he is.

            You don’t know that Fuller drop was not a missed safety assignment. Did Amos impress you?

            Glenn was adding so much padding to his drop, he would often be out of frame on the standard TV side snap angle.

          • I’m assuming a S blew that play too. At least one of them should have had a “don’t let anybody get behind you” mandate in that situation (90 yards from end zone, <90 seconds before half).

            But Fuller was clearly playing man and got burned bad.

      • Scharfinator

        I loved the fire we saw out of HQJ this past week. Hope he stays mean and hungry!

      • Callahan is still in mix for nickle too.

        • willbest

          He has demoted Porter to play the rookies on the outside.

      • BerwynBomber

        Honest question: has Amos ever made a play on a ball in the air?

  • Bears pulling the ‘ole questionable stash of Roy Robertson-Harris. Could be a replacement for Acho and/or Houston in the not too distant future.

    • GPLDAN

      Houston played 13% of his potential snaps. How is that for data, Data?

      Houston sucks.

      • I don’t think he sucks, I just think he was overpaid for what he is.

        And his skill set fits as a 4-3 DE better, IMO. Stuff the run and can bounce inside on Nascar packages to provide a bit of pass rush.

        He certainly seems like the odd man out in Chicago though. I’m guessing he’s gone after this year. That would free up about $5M in cap room. Cutting Massie would free up another $5M, which gives them about $45M (after rookies) to re-sign Alshon and upgrade RT, CB, S, and TE.

        Tracy Porter would be another vet to keep an eye on regarding cuts. Would save about $3.5M. And maybe Royal ($5M savings), though he might play well enough this year to stick around (depends both on his production and White’s development, IMO).

        But next year they should have plenty of $$ to work with and far fewer glaring holes to fill.

        • GPLDAN

          Then why doesn’t Fangio do what the Pats do, and line up 4-3 on 3rd down and long? Is there some hard and fast rule that says 3-4 teams will never have a 4th guy with his hand down?

          Because seriously, anything. Really. Anything would be good from him. He’s Black Jared Allen out there.

          • They kind of do that. Most nickel looks are 2-4-5, which has 2 down linemen (DTs in a 4-2-5 nickel) and 2 OLB (DEs in a 4-2-5 nickel).

            It’s just that he doesn’t use Houston as one of the DTs, and Houston isn’t very good at dropping into coverage as an OLB on more traditional downs. He’s a better fit in a traditional 4-3 D, where his primary value is as a run-stuffing DE but he offers some secondary value rushing the passer.

          • Putting Young in his familiar wide 9 stance on obvious passing downs might help too.

        • Sactowns#1

          This year they had plenty of money to work with and did very little so I’m not holding my breath.

          • What FA who was available did u want them to splurge on?

          • willbest

            Norman, but it turns out we dodged a bullet.

          • Sactowns#1

            Splurge on one player? Nah. Take a chance on some guys that were available, like maybe signing some linemen prior to last week? Heck yeah.

          • what do you mean they did very little? They upgraded a lot of positions of weakness. ILB went from terrible to really damn good, Hicks solidified the DL. Pace’s style is not to overspend on one big guy, but get plenty of solid vets who can support the studs you (ideally) draft and develop. That’s what Whitehair, Long, Jeffery, White, Goldman, Bullard, Floyd need to be.

            That has to be your core, your building blocks. You don’t find those type of guys in FA all that often, and you have to pay way too much for them when you do.

  • GPLDAN
  • GPLDAN
  • Lack of pass rush is alarming.
    But isn’t Fangio supposed to be a mastermind?

    Maybe stunt more. Blitz more. Send a corner, or S. Drop back 8. Do Amoeba. Mix it up more to not make it easy on O.

    • EnderWiggin

      I bid on a couple of players. Wild system we have going this year.

    • willbest

      I am convinced the Bears coaches played this as a PS game. If you were trying to win, White wouldn’t have been out there. Floyd wouldn’t have played 80% of the snaps. You would have blitzed more. Your offensive play selection would have been different. Langford wouldn’t have taken all but 2 offensive snaps.

      • BerwynBomber

        Scary thought. But yeah, the whole he is our #1 pick so he must play mindset seems to be occurring even with seasoned coaches like Foxangio.

  • Sactowns#1

    Great podcast which helped a dullard like me to understand the impacts of moving to a virtual currency like bitcoin. http://podcasts.joerogan.net/podcasts/andreas-antonopoulos-4

    • Haven’t listened yet, but I don’t think the religious Christians will allow electronic currency.

      Whole “Mark of the Beast” fear. (even though they prolly use credit cards)

      Not sure if it’s healthy overall to a democracy.

      That requires a hellavu lot of faith in the government and banks, faith I do not posses.

      • Sactowns#1

        Actually, it’s the opposite. It’s removing the govt and the banks from the monetary system all together (aside from their need to buy and sell goods etc). With the new generations willingness to use virtual currency tied to real money (Paypal, Venmo etc) I could easily see it happening.

        • GPLDAN

          Every major bank (JP Morgan, RBOS, Citi) are developing a block chain crypto-currency. That cat is out of the bag, no matter who the fuck Satoshi really was.

          • willbest

            Governments and banks like the idea of cashless society because it will allow them to extract more than they do currently from the productive class. No more paying your maid, babysitter, lawn service, etc under the table. Everything is taxable. And every transaction has a bank service fee.

            Which is why I expect the informal economy to grow larger than it is now.

          • Sactowns#1

            I’m assuming you didn’t listen to the podcast. With Bitcoin you can make and receive payments completely anonymously. The govt would have no idea who you’re paying or for what.

          • The first thing the IRS, FBI, CIA, etc would do is get together and make SURE they can track every single penny of every single transaction.

            The laymen would stand no chance.

            You’d have to be a hacker to not get tracked, and then, when they do catch you they’d hire you to catch other tax dodgers.

            As a hacker once told me. It’s easy to break into anything, not getting tracked is the bitch.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Papal Currency?

      • GPLDAN

        Haven’t listened yet, but I don’t think the religious Christians will allow electronic currency.

        Now I really want a gold coin with this on it:
        http://www.electricfuckinwizard.com/img/time_to_die.jpg

    • willbest

      Does it discuss the rapid growth of the informal market?

  • GPLDAN

    Here is why Electric Wizard should be the house band for DBB:

    They have both a Meat Loaf wannabe *and* a Lita Ford wannabe.

    https://fanart.tv/fanart/music/da7d57e6-0619-4f0f-8d15-d0b4195c3f55/artistthumb/electric-wizard-51559c6ee593c.jpg

    • CanadaBear

      Facial tattoos = commitment. To each his own but none for me, thanks!

      • GPLDAN

        No doubt. If you appear more fucked up than Ace Frehley, you are seriously fucked up.

        • CanadaBear

          My litmus test was always Steven Adler. How bad are you if GNR throw you out of the band for being too fucked up?

    • Sactowns#1

      Nah. We need Merican music sung by Mericans!

  • GPLDAN

    new thread

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