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Three Players to Watch Saturday Afternoon

| August 26th, 2016

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I haven’t had to spend as much of the summer arguing about the meaningless of preseason football as I usually do. Partly, I think, because teams are starting to embrace the lack of meaning themselves. All one needs to do is listen to the words coming from players in post-game pressers to understand they really couldn’t give two shits about the performances and outcomes. They just want to be healthy after Labor Day.

Here’s three players worth keeping an eye on tomorrow.

Cornelius Edison, Center

From Patrick Finley in the Sun-Times:

Saturday, fully healed but aching for experience, Edison figures to start the Bears’ all-important third exhibition game. He does so with only 12 games of center experience to his name — his senior year at the Div. I-AA school, though he did win the Rimington Award, given to the nation’s best at the position, for his efforts.

“I was always confident in my abilities,” the 6-3, 309 pounder said Wednesday after practice at Halas Hall. “It just took me a longer way to get here and just made me appreciate, when I’m here, that this is meant for me. And I just gotta keep working hard no matter what my situation is.”

Ted Larsen is a backup. Nothing more. Edison should start. Is he going to make everyone forget about the summer developments of Hroniss Grasu? No. But he could be capable. And the Bears sorely need it at the position.

 Daniel Braverman, Wide Receiver

Here’s my issue with Braverman. Where does he fit?

Jeffery-White-Royal are set as the Bears top three receivers. Mariani is one of the quarterback’s favorite targets (and the team’s punt returner). Thompson returns kickoffs and, despite injury, has done so all summer. The Bears believe Wilson is going to return at some point this season. Bellamy and Meredith may not be world beaters but both performed adequately in 2015.

So how does Braverman make this team?

Christian Jones, Linebacker

Simply put, he needs an eye-opening performance. The Bears list him as an outside linebacker, meaning they would need to carry six at the position for Jones to have a locker. (Young, Houston, McPhee, Floyd and Acho are locks.) They carried five in 2015. From Moon as CSN Chicago:

Coaches came to Jones early in the offseason and said they were moving him back to the outside. Fine. He was comfortable there before. Except that since the start of training camp, Jones has been something of a “Where’s Waldo?” character – inside, outside, try finding him.

If there’s an irony, it lies in the fact that not finding Jones a clear role sets him up as a piece of roster versatility that teams crave.

“We went and signed two inside linebackers in free agency and moved him to outside, and now we’ve kind of moved him back inside, so he’s kind of a hybrid,” said coach John Fox. “And sometimes you have to be that.

“There’s the old adage, ‘The more you can do… ,’ and there are a lot of those hybrid guys in different spots. It gives him an advantage, too, as far as offensive recognition.”

Fox and the Bears staff have placed a premium on attitude as well, and Jones has continued to be a factor on special teams, something not every three-year veteran and former starter embraces.

Jones thinks clearly: “You want to have a job,” he said, laughing. “That’s the main thing.”

Hell, even if Jones makes the team it’s not hard to see him in sweats every Sunday. There just isn’t a place for him in this defense anymore.

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  • beninnorcal

    First, let me say that I’m glad we aren’t arguing about where Christian Jones should be along our starting LB unit, those were sad days.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I forgot he was still on the team.

  • ILB, OLB, doesn’t matter. Jones never was making this team. LB is one of the deepest positions on the roster.

    • MB30SD

      What a difference a year makes (mb hums to himself gleefully)

      • I think it would have been ideal last year to have Jones and Shea competing for one starting spot. Both at that point were young guys with the physical tools who had potential at a new position. Expecting both to work out was too much, but you hope by making them compete at least one does.

        In hindsight, it didn’t happen, but that’s how I would have liked to see last year play out at ILB.

        • In fact, when the Bears first signed Fangio, I said Jones and Shea should be competing for the SAM OLB spot, which is basically where Shea plays now in NE and Jones is competing now.

          But then the Bears signed McPhee and put Houston at OLB instead of DE, and OLB was filled up.

          • MB30SD

            All I know is I was a fan of his as he came out of college. His tape made him seem like a fucking man among boys at OLB. Sad he just couldn’t make the jump, think he’s just too dumb, cause it certainly looked like he had all the physical skills. sigh.

            I don’t ever want to talk about Shea again… ever.

  • As for Braverman, he seems destined for the practice squad.

    And I don’t worry about other people stealing him. He’s not a ST standout, which is what you want from end of the roster WRs, so who’s going to roster an undersized WR without great measurables who can’t play ST? There’s a reason he lasted until the 7th round. Nobody wanted him then, nobody will guarantee him a roster spot now.

    He’ll have every chance to compete with Mariani and replace Royal next year.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I think you miss-typed that….
      “As for Braverman, he seems destined for the Hall of Fame!!!”

      • Of course. My apologies, Irish.

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha

          • so I get one less ha than HBP? What’s up with that?

            Guess his joke gets 4 “ha”s while mine only gets 3

          • MB30SD

            I tried to make them exactly the same specifically for the reason of giving you both the same HaHa’s… but Disqus wouldn’t let me. : (

      • MB30SD

        Hahahaha

    • BearDown100393

      Belichick already has 24 hour surveillance tape on Braverman. The nameplate is already stitched to the jersey.

    • MB30SD

      if he doesn’t make the team, we should just cut his ass. (sorry HBP/Irish)

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    McPhee had a private workout in New England area, where he is rehabbing. Fangio thinks he could be back. Maybe not game 1, but perhaps game 3. He says his leg feels good.

    Floyd, according to Loggains, is a workaholic. Comes to camp and works HARD.

    So we got all the OLBs, I think. Houston wants to play. Young wants to play. Jones showed he cannot play ILB, he has no idea what a TE crossing route is. Or a slot guy. Or wing. Or FB. Basically, if you run in front of him perpendicular to his vector, he is foiled. So I don’t see his purpose. Maybe ST. But he’s bubble.

  • willbest

    I was looking at a twitter report that seemed to indicate that Raider Stadium would also be the home of UNLV, and that they were gearing up to spend 650-700 mil on that anyways. But they were estimating about $12 mil in net revenue from naming and event sales.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      UNLV has been trying to get a new stadium for 8-10 years. Original plan was 500 mill open air stadium and they could not get public funding for that. The people of Las Vegas do not want to use public funding for any stadium.

      • willbest

        The confusing thing to me is that Sheldon Adelson is doing this to own the stadium, not the Davis family. Maybe Adelson has a stake in the Raiders already, or plans on acquiring it. But Mark doesn’t seem like the selling type and Adelson isn’t long for this world.

        Then again I don’t think Mark has a kid floating around out there and if a woman hasn’t baby trapped him yet there is going to be a good reason for that. So that family line isn’t long for the world. Maybe the Adelson family is making a long term investment. Though I would expect the Davis share which is only 47% of the team will have to give current owners first shot at purchasing his stake.

        • MB30SD

          What… type… is Mark? Fucking alien??!

          And a kid? Hahahhaa

          • willbest

            You don’t think there might be a genetic defect going on there? I don’t know enough about the guy other than he is exceptionally weird (and weird looking). I read he drives 2 hours in a minivan to the same barber to get the same cut. That smacks of OCD and spectrum behavior.

            Then again the team has been trending up of late which suggests somebody competent is involved and that wouldn’t happen without his say so.

          • BearDown100393

            He was brought up by Al Davis. This should probably be considered overachieving.

          • MB30SD

            can you imaging that upbringing. Jesus, poor kid.

          • CanadaBear

            Most barbers don’t have a bowl that fits his head.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha… had to run out to target to get one. A special one with the soft non-slip rubber edge

          • PaceBot 2000

            only a true pro could fuck up hair that exquisitely.

          • MB30SD

            there’s a definite possibility he’s special. He def looks the part. I know that’s horrible, and if he is, it’s fine… he’s just the strangest looking mofo I’ve ever seen. He’s definitely SOMETHING on one of the spectrums… if not a couple.

            His complexion kinda reminds me of this: http://images4.fanpop.com/image/photos/14700000/Predator-predators-2010-movie-14721646-1200-800.jpg

            Oh, and because he was a roided out badass back then: http://unrealitymag.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/Predator-movie-f03.jpg

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts
          • MB30SD

            Ho. Ly. Sheite. Muslim.

            There was a fucking Gremlins 2?!?!?!

          • BearDown100393

            Extraterrestrial man-baby.

      • BearDown100393

        Construction doesn’t break in Vegas until the mob and junk bond pimps say so.

        • willbest

          Maybe once upon a time, but Adelson and a couple other billionaires have turned that desert into their own personal sandbox.

          • BearDown100393

            Adelson is the mob.

          • willbest

            Jewish mobs are the scariest kind.

          • BearDown100393

            And smartest.

          • willbest

            That is what makes them scary.

          • MB30SD

            BOOM! bitches

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

            Joo Station!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Peaky Blinders. Best thing on British TV recently. Alfie Solomons on where to begin a negotiation of contract.

  • Scharfinator

    Gosh, I called this about 3 threads back. I almost feel guilty.

    http://deadspin.com/tony-romo-says-hes-fine-but-the-cowboys-are-fine-if-he-1785788370

    • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

      Romo and Zack Miller should start a fragile men group. Could dovetail with Art of Men.

      • MB30SD

  • Bender McLugh

    new De La Soul is really really good:
    https://delasoul.lnk.to/andtheanonymousnobody

    word.

    • MB30SD

      Word em up. Love de la

    • ImportantBearsDefender FTW

      That is really really not good. Sounds like bad 70s porn beat with some awful local no talent ass clown rapper.

      • Bender McLugh

        it’s okay to be wrong, good for you

        • CanadaBear

          Not really my cup of tea but I know they are talented as hell. I never quite get ripping on music you don’t like. If It’s not for you OK and move on. It’s not like any of us are the official arbiters of taste.

          • ImportantBearsDefender FTW

            It’s no different than posting the song in the first place either… on a sports blog.

          • CanadaBear

            This place is pretty unique for a sports blog. That’s the reason most of us hang around. I’d much rather listen to a clip of music that I might not be crazy about than read more political bantering.

    • Irish Sweetness

      De LA Soul feat. Chaka Khan

      Turn it up real loud… and Par-TAY.

  • BearDown100393

    Twitter is meaningless. Preparing for a professional football season and representing this city is not.

    • willbest

      Yeah I don’t get that. Romo might know what he is doing. But Zeke is brand new, and I haven’t paid attention to their roster but there is probably a new TE and WR he needs to develop game condition chemistry with.

      And lets say Romo gets benched for injury protection as Jeff suggests, and is shaky for the first half. They open their season at home against a division rival (NYG). That isn’t must win, but its a really shitty game to lose.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Zeke ran HARD last night. Like, “I want to be in this league for 3yrs hard”.

        • willbest

          Meh… Because he was drafted so high he ended up with $25 million in guarantees.

          To put that in perspective the Chicago Bears paid Matt Forte roughly $34 million for 8 years of service and the Jets have piled on $9 million more in guarantees. For $43 million in what is likely to be the entirety of his 10 year football career.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts
    • Sactowns#1

      He was great in the Birdcage but ever since that noise hunt movie its all been down hill.

      • CanadaBear

        He was hilarious in The Birdcage. What a funny movie!

  • CanadaBear

    As long as this is preseason thought I’d let you guys know I got my left knee replaced monday. Looking forward to better mobility (and less pain). It’s a bitch now but hopefully in a month or 6 weeks I’ll be getting the old mojo back. You guys would have been proud of me. They gave me an epidural so I was awake for it. They put up a screen so I couldn’t watch. After tons of power tools and hammering and banging they were just finishing up and the older doctor assisting was talking about the team (lead surgeon, assistant surgeon (the older guy) the nurse and the anesthesiologist) being really good and said they were The A Team. Other than the anesthesiologist none of the others could see my face and I hadn’t said a word once they started. After the A team remark I asked loudly which one’s Mr T? It got really quiet for about 5 seconds and they all started laughing.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Jebus, whenever that comes along for me, I want to be completely lights out.
      You’re a better man than I, CB…not that that comes as any surprise.

      • CanadaBear

        Not really. You can’t feel much. Just a lot rassling around with the leg while they do their thing. They put a sling behind your achilles and hoist it up. There’s nothing delicate about it. As long as I couldn’t see it, I was OK. That would have been gruesome to watch.

        • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

          you are a hard motherfucker Canada. I would let you fuck my sister.

          • CanadaBear

            Not sure your sister would be too thrilled to be offered up to an old troll but I’m truly honored!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I have no sisters, thank the spaghetti monster, but I second this emotion.

          • Pretty sure that was a Full Metal ref.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Ugh, forget the pain part, I bet there were smells.

      • Big Mike

        I get knocked out when I get my teeth cleaned… (not really, but you get it). Years of using pain killers, the regular shit doesn’t really work.

        • Sheryldthompson2

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    • Sactowns#1

      Do you have heart issues amigo? When they did my ACL I was out cold and glad for it.

      • CanadaBear

        No. The old ticker is fine (knock on wood). I had watched a bunch of slides about the operation so I knew it was gonna be pretty physical. The nice thing about not getting knocked out is the lack of gas hangover. That shit is kinda nasty. Headaches, nausea, sore throat, etc. The epidural just slowly unfroze and I didn’t have any of those symptoms until they gave me a shot of dilaudid. Tossed my cookies a couple of times from that. The nurses were surprised I was so sensitive to it. Oh well. I’m gonna get better and pain free and that’s all that matters. Thanks for asking.

        • MB30SD

          nice! So how’s the baby doing?!?!!?!??

          • CanadaBear

            Sore as fuck but getting better every day. I’m very confident they did a good job and the rest is up to me. More than ready to get my mobility back. Might have to do the other one. That’s life.

          • SC Dave

            I don’t suspect need to mention it, but do that damn rehab, compadre! It sacked after my ACL reconstruction, but ultimately incredibly worthwhile.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      You have a legendary bean bag Canada. Making jokes during a knee replacement surgery.

    • So those damn socialists made you watch, smell, and hear your own surgery?

      Savages!

      #MakeAmericaGreatAgain

      • CanadaBear

        They would have gassed me If I requested it. The doc explained about the side effects and recommended going commando. Seemed reasonable to me. I’ve been knocked out on gas a few times and it can be nasty or nothing for side effects. I really couldn’t smell much. When they wheeled me into the OR it kinda freaked me out with all the power tools. Stainless steel. But by then i had already been prepped and was pretty mellow. The really cool thing about it was the epidural wearing off fairly quickly on my right (non-surgical side) unfroze in about an hour and it took the left closer to two. The nurse said they can direct which side gets more by fiddling around with it in your spine.

        • SC Dave

          Fiddling around in your spine….

          Yucky.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts
    • BearDown100393

      The Wire. The only redeeming aspect to Baltimore. And it highlighted its demons and corruption at every imaginable level.

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        It’s great that the city of Baltimore refuses to acknowledge the program and the police refuse to be interviewed about it.

        Coming to a Southside near you.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    So Zeke likes the ganja.

    • MB30SD

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Looks like my bubs!

        • MB30SD

          nice

    • willbest

      Did he fail a drug test in addition to beating up his girlfriend?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Showed up at a dispensary before the preseason game against the Seahawks. Hence the willingness to truck Kam.

  • ImportantBearsDefender FTW

    Saw an article about some kids in Florida that did an art project where they each painted a parking space and it went viral. You can see it if you google maps : west orange high school Florida

    The bottom left most row of full spaces, bottom right spot shows that at least one kid in Florida has really good taste.

  • willbest

    AHAHAHAHAHA

    Robot “think it over” babies encourage teen pregnancy.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/robot-babies-not-effective-birth-control-australian-study-finds-1472196507

    • MB30SD

      smh, fucking dodgy aussies

  • ImportantBearsDefender FTW

    With Braverman, there could be a reason to not play the guy much the rest of the pre-season. He has very little real chance to make the roster per your reasoning. The Bears already know pretty much what they have and they like him. He is currently a perfect candidate for the practice squad. But if he plays a lot in meaningless game number 4 and lights it up, there is more chances of a desperate team like the Bengals taking him off waivers.

    • willbest

      F that noise. They shouldn’t risk that. Either rip his toe nail off and stick him on IR or ink him to a 15-year – $200 million deal w/ $130 million guaranteed now before he gets expensive.

      • MB30SD

        HOF!

  • PaceBot 2000

    Your starting OL for tomorrow:
    LT – Charles Leno Jr
    LG – Cody Whitehair
    C – Cornelius Edison
    RG – Ted Larsen
    RT – Garry (sp?) Williams
    TE – someone
    Listen, I need you guys to mentally prepare yourself for Cutler getting either a concussion or a helmet on his throwing hand. I’ve made my peace with it. We dumped Slauson, signed 2 vets that both fucking retired, lost our starting Center and just had our pro bowl RG and starting RT both just get hurt.
    Some backup dudes like Khaled Holmes, Amini Solatolu, Mike Adams better step the fuck up or this is going to get ugly fucking fast.

    • MB30SD

      yes

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        jess

        • PaceBot 2000

          Jess?

          • MB30SD

            jeeeeees

          • PaceBot 2000

            mom bombs

          • MB30SD

            looooooove me some fat, milky, yummy mom bombs

      • AlbertInTucson

        Ew.

    • willbest

      What the hell is wrong with you?!?!? It takes 0.84 seconds for Jay to take the snap and hit Braverman. Even a retarded chimpanzee licking his balls can provide enough pass protection for that.

      You just haven’t seen it yet, because they haven’t needed to use it. No sense in running up the score during the preseason.

    • why is Cutler playing behind that line? Let Brian Hoyer go get killed.

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        If Hoyer dies, the local Jewel bag boy is just as good.

        • Here’s my $0.02 on Hoyer: He has a long track record as a guy who can not completely suck when buoyed by a strong D, strong OL, and run-heavy offense that can carry the load.

          He did well in Houston with that. If shit hits the fan and one of those three falls apart, he’s going to be trouble (see: playoffs last year). But if all three are clicking, he’s a somewhat competent QB. Which makes him a solid backup.

          All preseason he’s been behind a shitty OL, so he’s looked like shit. There are 15, maybe 18 QBs on the planet who can play behind a shitty OL and not look like shit in the NFL.

          • Agree. Am NOT a big Hoyer fan, but he took that Texans team to the playoffs a few times.

            That’s what you want out of a BACKUP.

            Just can’t count on him to do win when it really matters, but that’s why Cutty is our #1.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Didn’t JJ Watt get them to the playoffs?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Is it not fair to say that ANY QB would not totally suck with a strong D, strong OL, and run-heavy offense? Other than Rex Grossman that is.

            If we had all of those things then Conor Shaw or Fales would be even better.

            Hoyer is brutal.

          • There are maybe 30-35 QBs who can not suck in a good situation. Maybe half of that who can not suck in a mediocre or bad situation.

        • willbest

          Awesome I did that for about 9 months in my youth. Put me in coach!

        • PaceBot 2000

          Braverman’s cousin and Jewel manager Sammy Feldstein. 5’10 172lbs, first kid in 8th grade to get to 2nd base, runs a 4.59 forty, can hit a 3 pointer with either hand and set the Trackathon record at his local highschool raising 2700.00 after running for 9 hours with breaks only for Gatorade and some catered Jimmy Johns.

      • AlbertInTucson

        This.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fuckin A.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Does putting a guy named Edison at center make it a genius move?

      • willbest

        As long as he doesn’t have to work with guys named Westinghouse and Tesla he should be okay. Then again…

        I didn’t fail to block that guy 1000 times, I learned 1000 ways to not block that guy.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I just visited Edison’s wiki page. It attributes the phonograph, motion-picture cameras, and the light bulb to him. Only the phonograph was invented by Edison. History has been overly kind to Edison, and America’s erasure of Tesla is tragic. There should be a picture of Tesla in every classroom on the planet.

      • SC Dave

        I find it very inventive.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Gary Williams????? What happened to Silatolu and Massie?

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Man, living in Zimbabwe is the suck. Here is what the president said when no athlete finished above 8th in any sport.

    “We have wasted the country’s money on these rats we call athletes. If you are not ready to sacrifice and win even copper or brass medals as our neighbors Botswana did, then why do you go to waste our money! If we needed people to just go to Brazil to sing our national anthem and hoist our flag, we would have sent some of the beautiful girls and handsome guys from University of Zimbabwe to represent us!!! This situation is like an impotent man who is married to five women, what is the essence? I will make sure we share the cost across board for all of them to pay back to government chest even if it takes 10 years to recoup, now it turns out to be a soft loan we have given them to go and visit Brazil as tourist, they are useless!!!!!”

    • MB30SD

      Maings… I was there in May. Stunning country.

      Mugabe (the president) has abjectly RUINED that beautiful country. He’s 80+ and a total nutcase. The country was called the “Breadbasket of Southern Africa” before Mugabe got his hands on it and nationalized all of the white farms…

      This translated to…. the white farmers and their families were kicked out, some just killed, and the farms were raided by the locals for anything they could sell… and then NOTHING was done with them and all the farms just died and withered and turned into dust because that’s what the locals did with all of this wonderful idea of nationalization.

      Mugabe was the hero of the war that got them their independence, and turned them from Rhodesia to Zimbabwe…. he was a general. Since then he’s managed to stay in power via corruption, collusion, and violence. The yooj in africa.

      He is a fucking scourge and blight on their country and someone should get up the balls to pull a clear and present danger on his fucking entire cabinet (I’m looking at you South Africa): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5XP3MonWebI

      • willbest

        Careful… I might get the impression that you think Rhodesia was better off being run by white imperialist assholes that gave the middle finger to the waning British Empire.

        • MB30SD

          so here’s my deal with Rhodesia and South Africa for that matter…

          Apartheid was a terrible, unjust, fucked up, and just plain wrong policy/culture.

          That said, both that and the regime/system in Rhodesia pre-‘independence’ were highly successful from a fiscal/economic standpoint.

          What you should never do, is take an entrenched, proven, and highly successful system like that and turn it over to people who literally had never run a country or anything remotely close overnight.

          You simply can’t do that without a total collapse of the previous system. You HAVE to make the swap-over a gradual transition over years to ensure the successful parts of the previous system persists and are taught, learned, and adopted by the new regime.

          What you had in both situations was an almost overnight handing over, and what you got because of that is what you find in both countries today. Abject failure on a 3rd world nation level… SA is bordering on 4th world, and Zim is literally a total chaotic disaster on every level including humanitarian and wildlife, not just land and economic.

          Alas, africa will always be africa, and nothing has changed since the beginning of time… just the technology.

          • beninnorcal

            I got to go to Zimbabwe as a kid. I’ll never forget it. It was awesome.

          • MB30SD

            it’s still beautiful, just so so fucked up.

            Their currency blew up so hard, when I was there in 2000 you literally had to take boxes of money just to buy erraday things. Like literally boxes. At some point their currency was so devalued, they were printing $5,000,000 notes. I have a couple $10,000 notes and a $25,000 maybe.

            Now, they just straight up tied it to the us dollar. I wish I took a picture of the couple dollar bills I got at the airport. they were almost totally blackish brown and felt like someone cut them out of a sheet they were so used and soft. kinda funny, kinda sad.

          • SC Dave

            Amazing, really. That a fiat currency has that level of “gravitas”. Oh shit!! Did I just use that world.

          • MB30SD

            +294 blog points

          • haha. Send me a pic of that $25K bill!

            Gonna post it on my Jdate profile and be pimping!

          • willbest

            But the assets were in the hands of the white people. You can’t just redistribute those assets and expect the white people to be particularly accommodating going forward. Particularly when you are telling the black people they “deserve these assets that were unjustly withheld from them”. You have irreparably poisoned any chance at that.

            If for example BLM sacks Illinois and they come into my office and tell me that I have been unfairly enriched by white oppression and that my company now belongs to them, I am cutting my losses there and heading for Jesusland, Randtopia, or one of the other more sane fragments of the former US.

          • MB30SD

            Sure, I get that aspect, but that was my point… you don’t sack them, you tell them it’s a native enrichment process and what’s going to happen is you’re going to take on local ‘trainees’ to help you run the farm and teach them the trade, you will be subsidized for this… and in a few years then you kick them out, or pay them off.

            But… africa. so yeah.

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts
          • willbest

            outstanding.

          • SC Dave

            Damn MB, you get it even more than I thought.

          • Yeah, but what was the alternative? GRADUALLY ween the country off apartheid?

            That’s nice – if you’re not african.

            In some ways, that’s kinda what happened during the reconstruction era here. It’s like, OK slaves, who we systematically prevented from learning or gaining literacy while tearing their family units apart or having any tools to actually function in a civilization –

            You’re free!

            Needless to say, generations later, the effects can still be felt.

            I think Africa needs to get over tribalism (much like a lot of Muslim countries), but that hatred is so deep rooted, it’ll be tough.

          • MB30SD

            Never. Never ever ever man.

            Tribalism and vicious primordial savage killing of other tribes and human life in general is what Africa is and ways will be. There is literally zero value of life in most places.

            But guess what that is… humanity at it’s core, raw, basic form. It’s what we all are underneath… We’re all just monkeys wearing bling.

      • SC Dave

        ” nationalized all the white farms”.

        Whether “white” is there or not, the rest has been, categorically, the worst episode of history everywhere it has happened, from the Ukraine to Cambodia

        • willbest

          Nonsense it worked really well for Venezuela

          • MB30SD

            whaaaa…. stop that

          • willbest

            So I can make outlandish statements of truefact about Braverman all I want, but the second it becomes about geopolitics…

            ed. Also, I am on my 3rd glass of scotch already so you shouldn’t take anything I say seriously.

          • PaceBot 2000

            3rd scotch at 515pm?? That’s disgus……awesome.

          • MB30SD

            Yes.

    • Make Zimbabwe great again!

    • AlbertInTucson

      “AND, the beatings will continue until morale improves!”

      • Is that from Captain Bligh in Mutiny on the Bounty?

        There seems to be some mystery as to where it actually originated.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Saw it in a print shop.

    • SC Dave

      Anyone been to Tanganyika or Malawi? I randomly browsed to their tourism sites the other day, and have to confess I was a bit intrigued.

      Are they safe for Americans?

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Eifert now out for the Bungles until Week 4 or 5.

    I wanted Eifert over Kyle Long in that draft. I fucked up that one. I will spot Emery that one. Eifert was going to be Olsen++, just short of the new Gronk. He’s been an injury riddled middling bust.

    • I think I wanted Eifert over Long too. Not sure if Long is THAT much ahead of him. Eifert has been more inj, but he proved last season that he can be a stud (IF he stays healthy).

      TEs tend to be inj prone too, like safeties. So gotta take that into account.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Eifert had 14 TDs last season I think.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    He is the foreman at the local steel mill

    https://youtu.be/JXylNx5pC70?t=19

    He wanted me to put my money where my mouth was, so I put my mouth where his wife was

    https://youtu.be/E-iLc_2WRdk?t=53

  • willbest

    I watched a movie call Synchronicity last night with the wife. The little blurb about time-travel on netflix peaked my interest. My wife’s take was I was full of shit in telling her it wasn’t some 80’s sci-fi (it was made in 2015). She gets annoyed with sci-fi/action movies not made in the last decade because she has been poisoned by Michael Bay. I felt it had a bit of a Blade Runner feel to it, and apparently I wasn’t the only one because when I looked at reviews after the movie that popped up from time to time. I wouldn’t recommend it though unless you are really into that genre in which case you have probably already watched it.

    • So it sucks or doesn’t suck? I feel like you’re reviewing Trump here.

      Is liking sci-fi a guy thing? I think the writers are male dominated, but not sure if the audience is as gender specific.

      Anyways, it’s pretty hard for me to get TOO disappointed in sci-fi. I even liked Prometheus, which many hated. Then again, I’m a huge Trekki, so maybe I’m biased.

      • willbest

        Wasn’t aware I made a declarative statement about male/female tastes in movie genres. Though sure, sci-fi is a guy thing the way rom-coms are a girl thing.

        Synchronicity is not action sci-fi though. It very much has the pacing and feel of Blade
        Runner. So if you like Blade Runner this will be watchable perhaps
        even enjoyable. If you LOVE Blade Runner, or don’t like Blade Runner
        this will be a waste of your time.

        Trump is distilled glory. There are 3 reasons why he needs to be the next president
        1) A first lady every heterosexual man could fap to.
        2) Late Night Comedy Gold
        3) And by the way… He has the best state of unions.

        • I looove Blade Runner, so will check it out soon.

          Who the hell doesn’t like Blade Runner? That’s like not digging the Godfather.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I love the Godfather but I find Blade Runner to be “Meh”.

          • CanadaBear

            I readily admit I’m not a sci-fi guy. The Godfather was awesome at the theater when it came out.

          • What’s your fav sci-fi movie then?

            I think Blade Runner is #1 for me. I like it better than the book, the only movie I’ve said that about.

            Even though I like Trek, those movies blew. Star Wars is pure childhood nostalgia. I admit it. Space Odyssey is high up there, maybe #2, but it’s sooooo slowww.

            Beep. Boop.

            Naturally, the Aliens franchise, maybe Predator.

            Underrated one Event Horizon.

          • AlbertInTucson

            A lot of my fav sci-fi’s are early classics:

            FORBIDDEN PLANET

            THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL

            THEM.

            THE THING FROM ANOTHER WORLD

            WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE

            More recently:

            ALIENS

            TERMINATOR 2.

            DEEP IMPACT

            This Century:

            EDGE OF TOMORROW

            LOOPER

            And just because I didn’t list it, doesn’t mean I necessarily DISliked a movie but

            …INTERSTELLAR lost me when Matt Damon’s character came on board and the ending did nothing for me.

            I’ve tried several times but just don’t see the greatness of BLADE RUNNER.
            THE DUELLISTS and ALIEN are both Ridley Scott films I prefer over BLADE…

            I don’t consider myself a “Trekkie”, but I enjoy several of the Star Trek and Next Gen films and think they handled the reboot of the franchise well. The BACK TO THE FUTUREs entertained me, SOYLENT GREEN, PLANET OF THE APES (68). PREDATOR, TOTAL RECALL (AHnold’s).

          • EnderWiggin

            Decent list there. I’d add two.
            2001 (awesome soundtrack)
            Event Horizon (possibly the scariest movie ever made)

          • EnderWiggin

            OK adding a third:
            Sphere (Jackson, Stone, Hoffman)

          • Never watched Sphere. When did that come out?

          • EnderWiggin

            Late 90s?

          • ah. I’ll put that on the list too.

          • EnderWiggin

            do it.

          • MB30SD

            Hate horror. I’m such a pussy.

          • Looper’s premise was awesome. I could name a few more, but like I said, I’m like a Sci-fi Junkie, so hard to disappoint me too much.

            Robocop. Minority Report. Hey, even Demolition Man (wait, does sci-fi need to take place in space or the can it be the future?)

            Admittingly, Haven’t watched many of those old school ones.

            To me, it’s like watching 1930s cartoons. Just beyond my scope.

          • EnderWiggin

            Cruise gets a bad rap, but Minority report is a fanfekkintastic flick. He also did another movie this decade – He wakes up the same time every day. And has to kill the bad guy or he wakes up the same day he just failed. Like groundhog day, except fighting aliens. I forget the name of it.

          • Agree. I loved Minority Report, and he’s an awesome action star.

            He’s not gonna do any Taxi Driver parts, but I don’t expect that out of him.

            I also agree with you about Event Horizon (see above below). A lot of ppl haven’t watched that one, and I think it pulled off the impossible – making a good sci-fi horror flick.

            I’m a bit more critical with horror genre.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He got pretty close to Taxi Driver in Collateral, no?

          • MB30SD

            That was decent. I also liked oblivion.

            Too bad he’s a fucking loon

          • Irish Sweetness

            Loved Oblivion. TWO twists.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That would be EDGE OF TOMORROW.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nobody ever mentions movies like GATTACA. Classic. Andrew Niccol is a genius. He also wrote and co-produced The Truman Show, wrote and directed Gattaca, S1m0ne, Lord of War, In Time , The Host, and Good Kill,

          • willbest

            GATTACA is outstanding. I could totally see it coming true.

          • MB30SD

            Pre.da.tor.

            Dyyyylan!!

          • willbest

            Matrix, Jurassic Park, Stargate (How is James Spader in this movie?), Galaxy Quest, Tron

            I been hoping one of these cable channels or Netflix/Amazon pick up Asimov’s Foundation series

          • Irish Sweetness

            Can’t wait for Blade Runner 2. Off-world?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Dystopia gives willbest the biggest chubs.

          • willbest

            Not a prepper, well not beyond the long guns. Nice thing about Chicago outside some moderately aggressive snow is nothing happens here.

        • MB30SD

          I’m voting for Dan Blazerian

      • PaceBot 2000

        It was trendy to hate prometheus. I liked it. I also read nothing about it so was pleasantly surprised when I realized it was an alien prequel.

        • And ppl gotta remember that it’s supposed to be the first part of a trilogy, but I can already see the plot line unfolding

          From what I understand, Aliens dropped their DNA on earth. We’re their “children.”

          But, they left us, and all that happened was that we began murdering each other for resources (suprise surprise). So, they sent an “alien” to save us, clean up our act.

          Jesus.

          Then, we crucified him in a horrible death.

          And they were like, that’s it. We’re pulling the plug. Bring out the aliens (with tiny mouths). Unleash them on earth.

          But somehow this never happened. They died before transporting those suckers.

          That’s why when that big dude got enraged when he spotted the cross on the chick. He probably thought, “these motherfuckers…” and began to continue our demise.

          That’s my take at least. If not, maybe I should right a few sci-fi books, eh Irish?

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

            that read is spot on. exactly what Scott intended to say.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think your second line there is exactly what happened to us. I don’t see chimpanzees ‘evolving’.

          • Wagga Wagga

            I wonder why there was a space shuttle named Atlantis? Hmmm….

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3BHllmI0R4

      • MB30SD

        And just maybe you’re a huge fucking nerd?

        NTTAWWT

  • FF Note

    Ok, peckerheads. It’s that time again. Smell the fresh cut of pixalated grass. FF, babies.

    I created the league. It’s private, so it’s invite only, which means, I need your email. Doesn’t matter which one. Use your porn one if u must.

    I can give u my email and you can send it my way through there. Many of you still might have it in ur inbox. I think I still have some of yours, but don’t know if it’s recent. You can look me up and send it through me on twitter too.

    https://twitter.com/ButchDeadlift85

    So lemme know who’s interested. Draft is next week already.

    The rundown.

    2QB
    Auction
    Lots of points
    1 IR slot

    The wrinkles.

    – Was reaalllly debating making it IDP, but for now, this will do. If any of u guys want to create another FF with IDP, let’s do it.

    -The waiver wire no longer rewards LOSERS. (#MakeMericaGreatAgain)

    You get $100 for season. You can secretly bid whatever amount for whatever player you want, highest secret bidder wins said player. NEVER played it this way b4, but seems fairer.

    -I’m rewarding 6 points (a TD) for first rd of playoffs to home team (Guy who won division) just like in real football, get rewarded for season long excellence.

    SB is neutral, as it should be.

    – No more ties. This is football, not fuzball. Highest bench points tie breaks. Merica.

    So, without further ado, let’s get it rolling. Auction to be held at 10pm Eastern, mon Aug 29ths

    The draft date can be pushed back a bit if necessary since everyone has busy schedules, but no one should be that busy on Mon night.

    • Artoo, NB, I sent you invites. I’ll look for a few other emails I have somewhere if I can for the rest of you.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I’ll play, life is calm.

      • EnderWiggin

        12 teams. Brutal.

        • u know it!

          Did u get my invite?

          Make sure to remind Artoo too!

          • EnderWiggin

            I’m in. R2 notified.
            Yeah man drafting is hard enough. Add just two more teams and it can be a clusterfek fast.

          • It was 12 teams last two seasons though.

            And what always happens is like 1 or two teams drop out halfway through, so the waiver wire won’t be as competitive.

            However, this year’s waiver wire is totally different, so it’ll be interesting.

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        I joined.

        I went with ‘Rage Against the Vereen’ instead of ‘God Hates Jags’ or ‘Cosby’s Sleepers’. I am trying to be less negative.

        • Coolio. Cosby Pudding Pops!

          Haven’t had a creative pun session yet. Will have to hash it out whilst I down absinthe and a girl gives me head in some outside venue to be determined tmrw (I’m actually not joking!)

          It shall come like an epiphany

        • MB30SD

          Well done

        • PaceBot 2000

          haha, excellent. I approve of all 3. lol, so bad.

    • PaceBot 2000

      When is the draft? What’s fantasy football?

      • Draft is tentatively scheduled for Mon, 10PM eastern

        Are you going to send me your email, pacebot. Or must I find it like PokeGo

        • PaceBot 2000

          same as last year. I just logged into my ESPN account. I’m Team Tradewind….because i fucking like it that’s why.

      • MB30SD

        It’s what is killing real football

    • MB30SD

      Gorked

    • MB30SD

      By

    • MB30SD

      Gorked

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Butch –

    Did you see this one?

    • oh, that looks good. How the hell did I miss that.

      I like that actor too. He’s come out in one of my fav offbeat dark humor movies “Choke” (GREAT 1st date flick. Just sexual enough to get her juices flowing, but funny and dramatic enough to make you not look like a total pudding pop”)

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        First film that Duncan Jones directed. (That’s David Bowie’s son, who – when I was a kid – he was named Zowie Bowie. Thankfully, David reverted his name to Duncan Jones.) He’s a decent director, although he tanked the Warcraft film and it was shit. But he’s Bowie’s kid, so he’ll get many bites at the apple.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He was good in Mr. Right too. Silly but very watchable flick in which he plays a hired killer.

        • MB30SD

          Funny movie

          7 psychopaths was goodish

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wow, never heard of it. Good call. Walken, Rockwell, Farrell, Tom Waits, Harrelson, Harry Dean Stanton. What a cast. I’ll check it out before the game.

    • MB30SD

      Sam Rockwell is a fucking badass.

      He is so awesome as Justin hammer

      https://youtu.be/1mIq-hoWpRM

    • Irish Sweetness

      If you liked hat you might like ‘Europa report’ about the exploration of Europa, which has an ocean of wter beneath its icy surface.

      Anyone else think it’s weird that we get nothing from the Juno Mission? I was up on the NASA site and it’s all just fluff and graphics. It’s been up there a couple of months now.

      Jade Rabbit lands on the moon. One picture.

      Philae lands on Comet 67P. One picture.

      Juno orbits Jupiter. Sweet Fanny Adams.

      • SC Dave

        Juno is still in a 57 day initial capture orbit. There is another burn to reshape during this orbit to get into the science orbits. I believe those are about 32 days.

        The high eccentricity is intentional, to minimize time Juno spends in the incredibly harsh Jovian radiation environment near the planet.

        I don’t know whether any instruments were in use during the initial flyby. Orbit insertions are obviously critical phases, and everything is focused on achieving gravitational capture. That was successful.

        Finally, I also do not know if it is feasible to record anything close up “just in case” insertion failed. My suspicion is that firing the main engine causes a lot of vibration and would smear the images, at least those in spectra that require the “shutter” to be open for a while. There is a lot less light out there so at least for the visual imagery that makes news feeds, long exposures are needed, meaning you need very stable tracking of the imager.

        • MB30SD

          Insertion fails.

          Hee hee

        • Irish Sweetness

          Wow, into space travel Dave? Cool. I thought they were already in orbit weeks ago. I was pumped for a whole load of photos and findings.

          The Europa Clipper mission will be the most exciting. An ocean full of water under there, that’s got to be the best chance of finding life off-Earth.

          My favorite Neptune fact is that it’s six times as far away from the sun as Jupiter is.
          That’s cold and lonely.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Final thoughts from Week 3 of Hard Knocks:

    A. Greg Williams is an asshole. His whole NFL shtick is bad cop, and he’s good at it. But he seems like a genuine prick.

    B. Goff did better against the Chiefs, but man. I don’t know about the kid. Maybe he’s Joe Montana, but he is off to a slow start.

    C. The NFL is brutal at times.

    D. Why do bubble guys on Hard Knocks always look a full step above what the Bears have? It’s a tv perception thing, I know. The RAMS look loaded on Hard Knocks with defensive talent, but they play bad.

    E. Singletary is now just Singletary. He’s a cartoon of himself. He’s Trumped himself. But as a motivational guy, he is all about it. He’s Tony Robbins on crack.

    F. Fisher just seems like his managerial and coaching style is so laid back, he’s been the boss so long and perhaps feels safe, that he is almost chill. Compared to Arians, he’s Hawaiian.

    • EnderWiggin

      Are you portrayed by the badass from Best of the Best Eric Roberts? Or the Gary Busey looking fekker from your avatar Eric Roberts?

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        I would say Star 80 Roberts, For sure.

        • PaceBot 2000

          but with the awesome tan and hair that he had in Batman. Elder statesman Roberts.

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

            He looked like he belonged on Paulie’s crew from Goodfellas in Batman.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’ve been hooked.

      A. Gregg Williams would have been my main beef. What a prick. There is no way I would have a guy like that on my team. You CANNOT motivate human beings that way. He’s a bully. Talking to grown men, you must make them want to be like you. How Singletary is just a LB coach and that tool is DC tells me all I need to know about the Rams leadership.

      B. Jared Goff does not know where the sun rises and sets. Oh he doe NOW, but he didn’t last week. This is your franchise QB moving forward? You need to somewhat smart to play QB – Dan Marino aside. I think Goff goes nowhere.

      Gurley is a fkn mouth isn’t he?

      William Hayes DE(?) has an average salary of almost 6 million dollars. He believes in mermaids …. but not dinosaurs .. or angler fish. When a team-mate challenged him on dinosaurs by asking him where fossils come from, his response was : “Shit, I don’t know …”

      Six million dollars.

      • SC Dave

        Singletary does not exactly have a sterling coaching pedigree.

        • MB30SD

          Irish…. #50 is crazy. Literally certifiable dude. He’s crazy… he makes a good cheerleader and can most likely coach LBs… outside that…. dude, he’s CRAZY

      • BearDown100393

        Jeff Fisher is a prick for allowing a prick like Williams on the team in the first place.

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    • PaceBot 2000

      you have beautiful tits…i mean grammar…i mean, well, i guess i mean tits.

      • MB30SD

        We always mean tits

        • Irish Sweetness

          Helen Mirren’s baps in Savage Messiah (1972). She does a full frontal down a marble staircase. Well worth seeking out.

          http://nudecelebvideo.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/004195.jpg

          • MB30SD

            You’ve posted this before maings, and i get it… but dude, you can do better than some 75 yr old chick, no?

  • PaceBot 2000

    haha, let’s fucking get it going early boys, i got woken up early today:
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/08/27/kaepernick-sits-during-national-anthem/

    Colin Kaepernick is one of the top earners in the entire world. Think about that statement. Colin lives in a country that rewards his talent in such an obscene way that he could literally change the world for dozens if not hundreds of kids FOREVER with his resources and he himself could help affect change with the opportunities he’s earned through his skill. He chooses to disrespect a Flag and Anthem that so many BETTER men and women have fought and died for. Not cool, but that’s his right i guess.

    He’s a fucking millennial after all and millennials fucking suck. As he sits and disrespects and protests our country, earlier in the day a young mother of 4 was shot in the head in Chicago as she pushed a stroller to go register one of her kids for school. Just another broad daylight killing of an innocent person. Just another victim of black on black crime. It was Dwayne Wade’s cousin. Maybe something will come of it but we know nothing probably will. The best thing about Democracy is that people are given choices and the worst thing about democracy is that most people that are given choices make the wrong ones. The old democratic quandry.

    Enjoy the game today boys.

    • BearDown100393

      How about taxpayer money not be wasted by having to pay the NFL for armed forces presence during national anthems at games? Let’s solve that problem first before beheading Kaepernick for being an ungrateful idiot.

      • PaceBot 2000

        since we pay them fucking peanuts it probably costs about one round of beers and a polish sausage to have them there. Different issue, nothing to do with Kaepernick.

        • BearDown100393

          Millions but Goodell sent about three quarters of million back after the story broke. http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/15611052/nfl-returning-723000-taxpayers-paid-military-tributes

          • PaceBot 2000

            so Bravermans salary this year…got it.

            also, what does this have to do with my post?

          • MB30SD

            Fuck colin kapernick and fuuuck the dumb ass criminals who don’t simply obey fucking orders instead of fighting… i Don’t give a shit what your color is… You’re getting shot for abject stupidity not your color.

            Here’s your fucking sign. Welcome to darwin.

          • PaceBot 2000

            There was another killing the other night in Englewood. As the cops were working the murder scene about 9 “young men” stood at the police tape and teased, threatened, joked about the killings while taunting the cops. There is no respect for life and success in Chicago. I’m not saying people don’t succeed and make it out, i’m saying there is NO RESPECT for it.
            Until the perception goes away that being a good citizen and a productive member of society means acting white then nothing will ever change. Until a light goes on and the insane levels of young minority single mothers drops precipitously things will never change. It’s tough to look at.
            I drive from the Bishop Ford exit at 111th and head West to get home. If i accidentally turned East for some reason at the wrong time I’d be dragged from my car and killed. Fucking crazy.

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

            It’s time for RoboCop. Paul Verhoven was a prophet.

            And drones. Like Baltimore has. Rq-111 Ravens. Let’s get them both:

            A. In the next Call of Duty installment and
            B. In the skies on the south side.

            I said A because they look cool and would be fun to play with.

          • PaceBot 2000

            didn’t Verhoven do Showgirls?

          • BearDown100393

            Yep

          • PaceBot 2000

            There was a time that i would have killed for Gina Gershon. Killed anyone that she asked me to kill and for any reason.
            Jessie Spano naked changed my young life.

            And I’m a fucking robot! That’s how hot she was/is/was.

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

            She looked good at the premier of Hangover II

            http://onlycelebrityfakes.cdnheros.com/image/thumb_4qj8wo32uc.jpg

          • PaceBot 2000

            Fashion is getting edgy.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Take a cold oil bath Pacebot!

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s had a few semi classics:

            2000 Hollow Man
            1997 Starship Troopers
            1995 Showgirls
            1992 Basic Instinct
            1990 Total Recall
            1987 RoboCop

            … and he was born in Amsterdam the year before WWII started … which is symbolized by the bird with three tits in Total Recall. Probably.

          • MB30SD

            No thanks. Be safe maings… and come to the land of white sharks and fish tacos

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

            Wade has so many cousins that if he lifted them all out of squalor, that would be a lot of moving trucks.

            And how many black athletes do you know DID go broke giving all their money to family? A lot.

          • PaceBot 2000

            too many. For the record I am not advocating giving away money to people that don’t deserve it…or even at all I guess. Giving money to family members never works out well in general. I’m more frustrated at the public outrage for select actions when the other 99% of actions go unaddressed.
            I’m happy that accountability is being talked about more and the spotlight will be brighter but i’m disappointed that the spotlight is only being shined on the police and on no one else.

          • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

            Kap went on twatter and said the Confederate and US flags were directly equivalent.

            It’s a dick move. He could endorse Black Lives movement or something. Like Obama tries to do, you got to move to save your country. Don’t be a hater in response to hate.

            Kap is not that smart. He’s a quitter. He’s faced adversity and, from what I can see, he’s kind of folded. No real shock that he’s a quitter on his country, too. He strikes me as the guy who rings the bell the first two days of BUDS and says he doesn’t need that shit.

          • BearDown100393

            He wouldn’t be making his millions under a confederate flag.

      • Big Mike

        or the Armed forces BUYING the publicity..

        • BearDown100393

          Either way, waste of taxpayer money.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The flyovers certainly are. I think it’s terrible the way players are expected to hero-worship soldiers. Do drone pilots based in containers in Vegas ever get trotted out and passed off as soldiers at these things?

          • Big Mike

            I just didn’t want to have this pinned exclusively on the NFL.

          • willbest

            How do you expect the Army to recruit? or should we do what other countries do with mandatory service?

          • Big Mike

            There will always be men and women that want to serve. Didn’t say saluting the flag and getting all jazzed up by shows of nationalism were horrible. Just that the symbolism has taken on the meaning of being a good person.

    • Big Mike

      Flags and standing at attention and all of that are silly symbols of patriotism. They aren’t a replacement for good deeds, or being a good person. Personally, I enjoy the collective experience of the anthem or the pledge. But I’ve been at HS fields on Friday’s and Saturdays from August to November for over a decade, I’ve been to hundreds of professional sporting events where the anthem was played and people I knew to be out and out scum of the earth assholes, stood at attention with their hand over their hearts and professed their love of country. Good for them, they’re still assholes. Good for Collin Kaepernick. He made a statement that says flags and anthem aren’t what matters. My is what is his point? If its not flags and anthems, then what it is his cause?

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        HIs cause is getting Jed Dork to resign him.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Oh, there is more being said now. Classic one way responses coming out of that hole.

        “I’m not going to stand and show pride in a flag and a country that oppresses black people and people of color.”

        • BearDown100393

          I’m completely cynical on this guy. He’s at risk to lose his starting job. So this is his manufactured response to divert attention.

          • PaceBot 2000

            I don’t think it is manufactured. Its a classic one sided view of the current issues that’ll too common these days.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Well said Mike. Flags and anthems are the bullshit that divide us. Anthems are invariably about spilling blood and dying for your country. Anyone that wants to die for their country is welcome to do so. Like Bill Hicks said, don’t die for a flag, get one in K-Mart.

      • willbest

        Its the shared experiences that bind us. Its not silly ritualism. Its an identifier. Kaep is saying “I am not one of you”. You can talk about high minded values of free expression all you want, but this country has, does, and will continue to shame people that step out of line. And there is no other way humans have ever existed.

        What the hell do you think “triggering” and “safe spaces” and all that crap is designed to do? Why the hell do you think the thought police go after badthink viciously. “All lives matter” is racist. You aren’t allowed to think that way. It has to be “black lives matter”.

        • Big Mike

          The shared experience thing is a nice sentiment. I enjoy it. But it’s shallow and has taken on a life as some sort of litmus test for goodness. I don’t know anything about triggering and safe spaces. All lives matter is fine, so is Black Lives Matter. IIt’s not an either/or. Each expresses a different issue. The terms are so weighted with connotation that they’ve become almost useless.

          All lives aren’t the ones being shot by cops at an alarming rate. Saying that doesn’t make me a cop hater. Each incident that has enraged the black community has a different set of facts. Some were clean shoots, some were like WTF. All of them built up the mistrust of the law enforcement in the black community. Right, wrong I don’t know those are issues that have old, deep roots.

          The other thing about flag waving, is it’s literally a sperm shoot. I was born here, so I salute this particular color. That’s fine. Its like being a Bears fan or a Packers fan. I hate the Packers, but had I been born in most parts of Wisconsin, I’d have been a cheesehead.

    • Remember when I argued what the root problem is about cop hating? And I said it didn’t matter if it was a rich af am or a poor one because to cops it don’t matter, they harrass them all the same, and are prolly more likely to pull over the ones driving around bentleys.

      It’s not a millenial thing unless NWA sang Fuck the Police https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5fts7bj-so from the future, or Ice T his Cop Killa, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5gRIud57jQ etc etc

      It’s a black thing, and it isn’t just made up. The cops fuck with them MORE than with white or even browns. I have personally seen this first hand, so I happen to agree with them when they argue that.

      That’s the premise. If you, or anyone else denies that, then there won’t be any solution.

      So if they police harass them more, they’re gonna feel like enemies (Public Enemy anyone? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPNK0VspQ0M) while the state sponsored police more like an occupying force. Would you stand up for the anthem of an occupying force?

      Now, not saying Kap or the other reactions (like fighting Cops at bars) are valid, just saying that we gotta actually LISTEN to their complaints and not just brush them aside cuz it’s millenial bitching or cuz they’re “thugs” or whatever else FOX wants to sell.

      Shit, just listen to the lyrics. And those are only 3 songs. You can probably listen to rap songs talking shit about songs all day.

      That’s my 2cents.

  • Irish Sweetness

    The War Dogs is pretty good.

    Jonah Hill is going the way of Biggsy though.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Wiliie you still consider yourself a Def. End?

    “Oh yeah, you ever see me try to cover a seam route?”

    I love that guy.

  • SC Dave

    anybody have a stream?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Pumped to see this OL.

    Bear Down.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Lol, would it be the bears if we didn’t find a way to start on the 5

  • PaceBot 2000

    We have to find a way to slow down the backside guy on the toss. 2nd time that happened.

  • SC Dave

    Screw it… I am now on game pass free trial

  • SC Dave

    Yikes. I can hear Cutler in the presser now… ” we have a few things to clean up”

    Drive derailed by penalties.

  • SC Dave

    Defense looking less than inspired…

    Oh, a sack. Coverage sack it seems.

  • SC Dave

    Ok… 3rd and long. Stop them, eh?

    Or not.

    • Guess not. Alex Smith does have some wheels on him though.

      Still. of ALL teams we should be used to that shit. Vadgers runs the same.

  • Irish Sweetness

    1st QTR:

    Nice flashes from Hicks, Wille, HJ and Freeman. Massie and Larsen … eesh

  • Did Freeman just get hurt celebrating?

    My one big take away: we don’t have a premier pass rusher, and we won’t be an elite defense until we get one.

    They drafted Floyd to be that guy but I doubt he becomes that, or signed McPhee, but he’s not dominate.

    Are D is going to be meddling until we get that Suh/Mo guy.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Hicks looks like a rusher to me. Freeman got hurt in the tackle I think. Doesn’t look happy.

      Edit: Freeman was in on the goal-line there.

      • I think Hicks looks good. He shed that block and saved about 10 yds. That was a great play. Getting some pressure too.

        But I doubt he’s a Mo. But hopefully he can become one.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Let’s get a nice drive going here.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Lots of lefty runs .. .with play-action off anything looking like a righty.

  • Have the Bears stopped a crossing route?

  • Jesus Cutler.

    Langford picked up his man nicely.

    This is a disturbing trend for all the Bears QB.

    They all look like they hold on to the balls too long. Fucking Birdcage

    • SC Dave

      Maybe the routes are too long / complex? Although Cutler’s vision has never impressed me.

  • EnderWiggin

    D Johnson gave us a break. He could have killed Cutty on that play, but hugged him instead.

  • Irish Sweetness

    This is going to be a long day for Cutty behind that line. Jesus. We could get shut out here.

  • nice glenn. welcome to the team

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    cOME ON aLSHON. jESUS/

    • wouldve been a 60yd TD

    • SC Dave

      Not excusing Alshon, but some QBs make passes to guys that open easier to catch.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        better cut both of them.

        • Can Hoyer and Braverman do worse than Cutty and Alshon in 1st?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            they probably would have scored 21 points.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Right there to be taken in stride by a top receiver.

        Still, the defense and punting looks good.

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        easier than hitting him right in the hands with a slow roll?

        • SC Dave

          I’ll have to check the replay, but live it looked like a bullet where an arrow would have worked.

          But like I said, not excusing Alshon .

          • PaceBot 2000

            maybe he should throw it slower so the safety could end alshons life.

  • SC Dave

    Alshon… tsk tsk

  • PaceBot 2000

    Is Loggains trying to win a bet? It’s not highschool football. You don’t always have to bunch everyone up and run off tackle. Sometimes spreading the O and quick passes work.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If we had a right side to the line it might work.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Unrein is a violent man

    • SC Dave

      Unlucky

  • WTF. The refs want Chiefs to score?

    BS penalty.

    And non holding call on scramble

    • SC Dave

      Helmet first gets the call every time.

  • Another crossing route for a 1st.

    Color me shocked

  • SC Dave

    Smith looking pretty good today.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Kelce!

  • Irish Sweetness

    At least we look good against the run.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    I am starting to like the pass rush.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Hicks looks like a stud doesn’t he? Can’t wait til they unleash the blitzes on Osweiler. He’s fucking dead.

    • SC Dave

      Took about 15 minutes to get going, but looking good right now.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Can we get something like a Pro offense? Fuck

  • Irish Sweetness

    Is Cutty going back in?

  • SC Dave

    This defense looks like Lovie. March down the field, but don’t cross our goal line.

    Sans the takeaways, that is.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Loving it. Nothing we can do about Larsen and Massie, except direct everything away from them.

  • Brought the house cuz that’s the only way to sack Smith.

  • My only hope for a premier pass rusher at this moment is The Fisherman.

    We have a lot of other pieces in place on that Dline. Just need that 1 dude to take us to the next level.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, what about Hicks. He looked unstoppable in there.

  • PaceBot 2000

    anyone else concerned about Trevathan being pulled? That knee must not be feeling too good.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Cutty needs to bootleg left no matter what Loggains is saying. White and AJ are holding their dicks out there.

  • on the bright side, Hall and Glenn look good at corner.

    Fangio always has a knack for the secondary.

    Now, if we can only stop the fucking drag and cross routes.

  • SC Dave

    I miss the glory days of Devin Hester

  • Irish Sweetness

    25 minutes:

    Chiefs :18 T.O.P
    Bears : 7

    Only 2 FGs down. Not bad.

    • SC Dave

      When you don’t get first downs, and don’t get off on 3rd, that shit happens

      • Irish Sweetness

        I mean defensively. We look good.

        (Porter gets concussed)

        Erm ….

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    And here come the boo birds

    • beninnorcal

      KC boo birds?

    • I see u switched to Karate Roberts.

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        i needed to impart some bad assery to the Bears. It is not working.

        • SC Dave

          Well, it was a good try.

  • PaceBot 2000

    you just can’t get 1 yard on first down every series. You just cannot. Also, the batted passes keep happening.

    • SC Dave

      Yeah… first down has been awful since the first possession.

  • How many bat downs is that for Cutty this PS?

    Too many.

    Jesus.

    Hopefully this is the wakeup call for POX.

    SIGN FUCKING LEARY from Cowboys. Get another OG/C just in case.

  • PaceBot 2000

    the chiefs are averaging over 7yds a play on FIRST DOWN.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Porter hurt

  • PaceBot 2000

    i’m pretty sure this couldn’t have gone worse. Bullshit playcalling, 1yd runs, dropped passes, pocket breakdown, no execution, can’t stop 3rd downs, can’t stop crossing routes (as if they were just invented TODAY), injuries.
    FUCK, time for some tradewind, see ya’ll later.

    • Shady

      injury… Meh, it’s preseason.

      • beninnorcal

        I guess injuries are the only meaningful that can happen in preseason. So there’s that.

        • Irish Sweetness

          This is why the “PS is meaningless” meme is plain wrong.

          PS is where you work shit out and get injured.

          • willbest

            as opposed to doing it in the regular season? I personally I would rather they sort it out now than the first 2 weeks being effectively 2 free wins for units that have lots of chemistry left over from the year before. That is a pretty big hole for the losers of last season to overcome.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But that line is regular season. Edison can’t make the calls. The defense is having its way. Larsen is lost at RG. Massie is meh. It doesn’t look good for the passing game going forward.

        Long might have torn his labrum (season basically done). No Fuller. Porter concussed. Trying out our third center. Larsen/Massie ain’t shit. AJ is moment away from spraining his vagina. Doesn’t look good.

        • Shady

          They’ll be fiiiine.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Hey, pass that over here ….

    • SC Dave

      My impression is a total lack of inspiration for the Bears.

    • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

      my GF asked us how it’s going.

      My son says “it’s worse than we expected. And this is the Bears.”

  • Bears D just looks gassed now.

    My #1 fear is manifesting before my eyes.

    The lovechild of Chaz Bono and Nathan Lane – Chaz Lane – can’t call a game.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It would be nice if Cutty grew a pair like Mac and just called his own plays.

      • willbest

        Cutty doesn’t have a lot of guaranteed left on his contract, and he isn’t Brady so he has to play good little soldier boy.

        • PaceBot 2000

          plus it’s not the fucking 80’s anymore.

  • BearDown100393

    A lot of heart from our defense right now. Not meaningless.

  • hey. #39. How about jumping on the pile instead of fucking celebrating when the ball’s on the ground!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yoof. He’s played well.

  • Irish Sweetness

    One yard line … little do they know ….

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    If you allow yourself to be chucked 2 yards back, the guy catching the slant is automatic

  • Irish Sweetness

    Spencer Ware is gay.

    NTTAWWT.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    outhustled
    outmuscled
    out schemed
    out played

  • PaceBot 2000

    no TD he fell sideways.

  • PaceBot 2000

    is Jim Miller fucking blind? he’s calling a slow motion play and watches no ball cross the goalline and kind of goes silent……uh, that means no TD Jim.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Down by contact. Anything else is Vegas.

  • PaceBot 2000

    they called the TD to cover their asses, the ref had no fucking clue.

  • PaceBot 2000

    i can see them keeping the call as is since they can’t prove the ball didn’t NOT cross the goalline. Just like they couldn’t reverse it if they had called it down.

  • PaceBot 2000

    that’s why you don’t bet the NFL. I wish i could quit this NFL.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Anyone betting preseason needs shooting in the head, the fucking oxygen-thieves.

      Week one though – if Long is back – Chicago might be 5/2 or 3 to 1 to beat Houston – I mean Brock. Going 0-4 is a good thing.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Fucking Vegas. My ass.

    The following people are gay:

    The reviewing team.

  • Shady, sent the invite.

  • PaceBot 2000

    haha, ok, pack it in. holy fuck

  • Irish Sweetness

    The following people are gay:

    Alshon Jeffrey.

    • willbest

      I suppose that could explain his exceptionally low key personality

  • Irish Sweetness

    Can Cutty get this in the endzone?

  • BearDown100393

    Ode to Trestman

  • I hope the Bears get booed mercilessly.

    • willbest

      In the preseason? what the hell for?

  • PaceBot 2000

    this was the worst half of offensive football that i think i have ever seen in my life.

    • willbest

      You don’t remember Seattle game last year do you.

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

        The MNF game against the Saints.

        Trestman’s low ebb. Chucky went insane in the booth.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          any game that we started Craig Krenzel.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      remember the Pickles Seahawks game…

  • Irish Sweetness

    Or will he get sack-stripped with all day to fucking throw the ball with a 3-man rush in front of him?

  • PaceBot 2000

    Poll:
    A. Pack it in
    B. Starters play 3rd quarter
    C. Offense gets one more shot in first series but just 2nd string D from here on out?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pull whitehair and Leno. Massie and Larsen too. Put in the scrubs and see what they’ve got.
      Get Jay away from that shit. Quarter each for Shaw and Fales. Cut Hoyer.

      • beninnorcal

        What Irish said. Total greenent here.

    • Big Mike

      One of the things that happens in game 3 is the starters go out after half time.

  • PERFECT ending to half.

    Couldn’t have scripted it better.

    • PaceBot 2000

      I mean, i watched Cam Newton almost throw 6 INT’s in the first half yesterday but at least they did other things right.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Russell is the man. He’s a good-looking chick in broad daylight. Newton is the slap-faced weapon in a nightclub when you’re hammered.

  • BearDown100393

    This is all meaningless

    • madscout12

      You’d still like to see some guys win matchups.

      Jeffery had a really, really bad drop. WR look like dog shit on their routes. Nobody on the same page. O-Line consistently getting beat. RB can’t make anything happen.

      D looks OK, except they can’t get off the field on 3rd Down. No way Smith should pick up a 1st with his legs on 3rd and 14.

      Nothing looks good. Nothing.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They’ve only really beaten the defense with an outstanding performance by Kelce. We’ve looked good against the run. Faced massive time of possession difference favorably. Glenn has been good. HQJ. Hicks. both inside linebackers did well. Willie was good running down that rb on the other side of the field and rushing the passer. Houston … meh. Travis Kelce.

        • madscout12

          Smith has scrambled for a couple, including that bad 3rd and 14 where there was NO contain. But yeah, you’re right. Glenn had a nice pass deflection. CBs had a few plays. Hicks looked good on some rushes, as well as MU. They’ve been good in the red zone.

    • Joecashflow

      Bullshit. Good teams show up. Houston, we have a problem.

      • Big Mike

        1 its pre-season 2, what did you expect. This was a 6 win team.

      • BearDown100393

        I’m just quoting the local force fed mantra at the top of page.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • PaceBot 2000

    Ok, Loggins, throw Bears fans a fucking bone here. Can we just have a drive of pitch and catch to Alshon and White so we can all step back from the ledge. I mean, send the fucking kid deep and say fuck it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bootleg left, give AJ or Kevin to get downfield.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Crown is getting a BJ right now .. .somewhere.

  • Nobody but Tracy Porter seriously hurt for Bears so far.

    Don’t play anybody important in 2nd half and this game is a big preseason win.

  • PaceBot 2000

    let’s fucking do this.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You used a contraction ….

  • Irish Sweetness

    Secretly delighted the 1st string is out there.

    • I’m furious. What happens if Jeffery or Cutler get hurt seriously right now? That’s a season-altering injury in a meaningless game.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I agree, but it’s fun to watch.

        It’s a tradition, right, and football is tradition.

      • PaceBot 2000

        just one series and pull them.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Let’s get some Jordan Hoard in there! LET’S ROLL!

  • beninnorcal

    Wish I was watching. Even though the product sounds like shite.

    • Big Mike

      offense can’t get out of its own way. Time of possession is like 4:1. they’ve run 15-20 plays to KCs 40 or so.

      • beninnorcal

        Yeah, saw that on NFL.com. Not looking good at all, especially minus Kyle.

    • Irish Sweetness
      • beninnorcal

        I appreciate the gesture, Irish. But I’m also out and about, can’t really burn the data to watch. I’m just the worst, really.

  • PaceBot 2000

    just push the pace, get points and you’re done.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Kadeem singing for his supper today.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Oh Kevin I would have caught that.

  • SC Dave

    Jay has had better days… jeeez

    • PaceBot 2000

      Dave, which throw was so uncatchable? The one where he put it where only Alshon could catch it? The one in White’s stomach? The other one in Alshon’s hands? which one?

      • Irish Sweetness

        The low one to AJ on the middle route. Ground ball. The last one to White on the sideline. There were others. He was off today. AJ should have grabbed two more though.

  • Joecashflow

    They should put the first team O in to start 2nd half. Show somebody you belong in the NFL!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    CUT HIM!!!!

  • Yay! Bears O finally moving the ball vs Chief backups. (and even then it took a 4rth down conversion)

    All is solved!

  • SC Dave

    So watching on game pass is delayed vs pirate feeds… smh

    • beninnorcal

      How long is the delay?

      • SC Dave

        Well, I saw irish’s post on Kevin a few seconds before the play was on the feed

        • Irish Sweetness

          Sorry.

      • Hopefully, 1 year

        • SC Dave

          Lol

  • SC Dave

    Cut them all!

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Eat shit Robbie

    • lolz

      But it’s only PS! says Jeff.

      Chiefs don’t seem to be having any problems.

      • AlbertInTucson

        There’s meaningless and then there’s meaningless, I guess.

        • BearDown100393

          There’s meaningless and then there’s #meaningless.

          • willbest

            I am old enough that #s really bother me.

  • PaceBot 2000

    that’s how you drive the ball. A couple of drops but a quick 45yd drive stalled by drops…signs of life none the less.

    • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

      maybe White could learn how to catch the ball. i thought he was good at that.

  • SC Dave

    Time to make Foles look like a HOF QB.

    Or maybe that was only last year

  • Irish Sweetness

    Hoyer warming up? WHY?? Fuck. I hope he pulls a Rex.

    • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

      baaaaaaag boy

  • PaceBot 2000

    washington came in for his one dominant play…and limps off.

  • SC Dave

    Wow… we got a holding call?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Deiondre Hall … thank you for playing, your taxi is waiting.

  • PaceBot 2000

    ok, til next week boys. Let’s get healthy and maybe after looking at the tape we’ll get Alshon involved early and often.

  • That’s what happens when you don’t turn ur fucking head.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Bullard with a QB hit.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Any advances on the shutout?

  • SC Dave

    Can you imagine having paid for this shit?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Never. Football is a right.

      • SC Dave

        No, it’s not.

        • willbest

          Pretty sure Irish was making a prog joke.

          Q: How do you know if something is a right?
          Progressive: It exists.

    • BearDown100393

      If you are watching this on either cable or dish, you did.

      • SC Dave

        Oh, I know. But I was talking about paying to get into Soldier Field. Tho that was hardly clear.

        Or if you buy any product that is advertised during the broadcast.

  • Irish Sweetness

    If we want to score we cannot put Hoyer in.

  • Right up the middle where our strength is supposed to be

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Tell me why the Bears can’t open 3-1.”

    Well, how about your defense not being able to get off the field on 3rd down?

    • SC Dave

      Yeah, seven wins starting to look pretty optimistic about now.

    • Or crappy Oline, drops, and complete lack of scheme.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Your, supposedly, mightily improved defense.

      At home.

      Against Jamaal Charles-less Chiefs offense.

      Nick Foles converts on 3rd and 20.

      Sorry if that pisses me off just a bit.

      • BearDown100393

        #meaningless

  • BearDown100393

    FINISH THE SENTENCE: I haven’t witnessed such a horrid Bears offense since {fill in the blank}

    • SC Dave

      Preseason game 1

    • AlbertInTucson

      Last year’s Seattle game.

  • SC Dave

    I want Shaw

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Feel horrible for Cowboys fans.”

    Spare US and screw THEM..

  • Joecashflow

    Ok, safety and were back to week 1. This matters!

    • SC Dave

      I was thinking the same thing.

  • SC Dave

    This team stinks.

    • BearDown100393

      Its coached by Andy Reid.

  • PaceBot 2000

    I’m really concerned that Trevathan and McPhee will be unavailable this year. For some reason i’m not concerned about the O. You have to believe that the coaches will see what worked and why, what didn’t and why and will make sure that we do the right things in game one with a TE, our slot WR, Alshon and White.

    • BearDown100393

      OC Lane might choreograph a broadway show before fixing this offense.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Jay will have input and once they look at the tape they’ll see that first drive of the 2nd half, the good plays, the momentum and they’ll build off of it….or they won’t and we fucking kill Nathan.

  • PaceBot 2000

    DHC playing safety like Vereen. jesus dude, it was 3rd and 16, stop fucking backpedaling…

  • AlbertInTucson

    Good news! “This is the end of the 3rd quarter.”

  • BearDown100393

    Howard working hard to get cut here.

  • EnderWiggin

    Da Bears are taking a #2.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Zzzzzz….

  • I’m almost positive it’s Chaz Lane’s fault.

    On that 4rth down even I knew it was gonna be a flare.

    Like I said, the last two coaches we kept for “consistency” were Tice and Tucker.

    How did that turn out?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Aaron Fricken Murray.

    SMH.

    • BearDown100393

      Already has 10 more passing yards than #6.

  • Joecashflow

    I know this. We have not shown we can move the ball. We have not shown we can stop a drive at the end of the half. Both those killed us last year. So here we are. Same look as last year. Disappointing to say the least. This is not a winning football program yet. Screw you guys that hope preseason doesn’t matter. It shows your heart and i am not seeing it. As a 50 years loyal fan, i was hoping for more.

    • BearDown100393

      Relax, the Bears are just “pacing” themselves.

    • PaceBot 2000

      long time bears fan? the best kind.

  • SC Dave

    Timu!

  • AlbertInTucson

    3rd and long, first and ten!

    • SC Dave

      Really does look like last season.

  • willbest

    Is Gina pissed off?

  • SC Dave

    Can the Bears just play on the road all year?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Jim Miller plays the “growing pains” card.

  • SC Dave

    I’ve been watching Chiefs announcers all day.

    • Me too. They’re probably being softer on the Bears actually, and even they’re admitting they look like dog shit.

      • SC Dave

        They’re better off talking about their guys being good.

  • Joecashflow

    What is it with home games the last 2 years! Jezz!

    • SC Dave

      Yeah, no shit. We should have the London and Mexico City tilts as “home” games

  • SC Dave

    I want Shaw. Why the fuck do I have to watch Hoyer?

    • BearDown100393

      And you get him.

      • SC Dave

        Wow… game pass way delayed

  • BearDown100393

    Braverman!

    • SC Dave

      A first down!

  • BearDown100393

    Hoyer just had his spleen explode.

  • BearDown100393

    #baldqbs

  • AlbertInTucson

    Miller: “borderline pile driver”.

    Not. Even. Close.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Andy wants his shutout,

  • Irish Sweetness

    I love this Shaw kid. He gives us what we don’t have in making something from a play.

    Meredith is clearly our #3.

    • SC Dave

      What you’re seeing is what he would show for the Gamecocks. Just not consistently enough.

  • SC Dave

    About time we got Shaw in… best throw of the day there for us.

    • I think we need to keep Shaw and cut Fales

      • Irish Sweetness

        Fales is better than Hoyer. More upside and we’ve invested a lot of time in him.

        • SC Dave

          I agree. Hoyer is horrible.

  • Joecashflow

    Shaw has looked good 2 games now. beautiful throw and catch.

    • BearDown100393

      Flag

      • SC Dave

        Screw. That shit happens all the time and they call it versus us. Even the KC an ounces are like wtf?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Bye bye mini-me.

  • BearDown100393

    #8 rules.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Keep Shaw. Cut Hoyer. No brainier.

    • SC Dave

      Absolute no brainer

    • BearDown100393

      Hoyer’s got a 1 year deal at $2 million.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t care.I bet Shaw is still better on ONE leg than Hoyer is on two.

  • Shaw keeps his eyes down field while he’s scrambling.
    He can run.
    He has nice touch.

    A bit undersized, but shades of Wilson.

  • And I just came up with my FF name.

    ShawShank Redemption!

    • SC Dave

      Ftw

      • SC Dave

        Reception

    • Irish Sweetness

      ShawWank Inception.

  • Irish Sweetness

    How about Meredith? Our best receiver by far today.

  • SC Dave

    No longer 0 for home. Thanks Connor.

  • Joecashflow

    Shaw makes it look easy, because he is so mobile and another nice throw on the run. thank God we have something positive to talk about!

  • AlbertInTucson

    The coaches put in Shaw only because they HAD to. SMH.

    • BearDown100393

      Hoyer should get injured more often.

    • SC Dave

      Pox seem as bad about “their guys” as Emery or Angelo.

  • AlbertInTucson

    3rd down stop?

  • Joecashflow

    I think the kid looks cool under pressure. Some nice runs for gains, some nice throws on the run and a great throw from the pocket. Looking good!

    • BearDown100393

      Against 2nd and 3rd stringers.

      • SC Dave

        With 2nd and 3rd stringers

        • BearDown100393

          Connor Shaw is dead.

  • SC Dave

    Two 8 pointers and we have a tie

  • SC Dave

    WR screen?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Well shit

  • BearDown100393

    So ends the Connor Shaw era.

  • SC Dave

    FUCK. That looks bad. Broken legor some such shit.

  • BearDown100393

    #Barbaro

  • Irish Sweetness

    You are kidding me.

  • PaceBot 2000

    just broke his leg in half.

  • fuuuuck. WTF is up with the Bears. ONE bright spot. Gets inj.

  • BearDown100393

    Brian Hoyer is tingling with joy.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Fuck that. So long Conor. You were good.

    To make matters worse .. .Hoyer is going back in.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Meanwhile, let’s ” …feel bad for Cowboy fans.”

    Right.

  • PaceBot 2000

    imagine some guy taking away hundreds of thousands of dollars from you by going low.

    • BearDown100393

      Andy Reid

    • willbest

      Probably not. He is going to make more on IR this year than he would on the practice squad.

      • PaceBot 2000

        his career is now in jeopardy Will. Was playing good enough to get picked up by someone else.

  • DaMurph

    Well I think its safe to say, gonna be a long year!

  • I don’t know if I want to see that replay

    • SC Dave

      I don’t want to

  • SC Dave

    DAMNIT that sux. The only good news all day, then that

  • Joecashflow

    When do we catch a break!!!

  • BearDown100393

    Quick recovery? WTF Jim Miller…..

  • BearDown100393

    The cart ran out of gas.

  • See, all Jay has to do is break his leg in half to get chicago love!

    • BearDown100393

      Connor Shaw is a frigging legend.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The greatest Bear that never played a game?

        • SC Dave

          That would be Kevin White.

        • BearDown100393

          And I’d like all of you
          to love him too.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Damn, he could get signed off the practice squad.

    We just lost a guy that looked like a starting QB. That fkn sucks.

    • SC Dave

      Can they IR him? I would assume that would take a roster slot.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yup. Or can they put a guy on the roster who is on PUP ?

        • willbest

          People on IR and PUP don’t take up 53-man roster spots.

      • willbest

        He is either going to get an injury settlement or he is going to get put on IR and get his entire salary for 2016.

        • BearDown100393

          $450,000

          • willbest

            Which as I said below is more than the $6k or so a week they make on the practice squad.

            The question going forward is, can the injury physically heal to allow him the same mobility/power, and is he going to see ghosts going forward.

  • SC Dave

    I was expecting another TD real soon too. One wonders if that was career ending.

  • Joecashflow

    The kid looked like a warrior even on the cart

    • BearDown100393

      He’s rubbing dirt on that stump as we all type. Not the end.

  • DaMurph

    Jimmy Clausen, answer your phone!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Shaw would have run on possibly two of those plays.

  • SC Dave

    Hoyer is soooo bad

  • SC Dave

    Andy Reid is a dick

    • BearDown100393

      limp, flaccid.

  • SC Dave

    Hoyer is soooo bad

  • AlbertInTucson

    Nice throw to nowhere, Hoyer.

  • Irish Sweetness

    The following people are cocks :

    Brian Hoyer.

    Oh Jesus, he just made the team tonight … and became our backup quarterback ….. think about that.

    6-10.

    • BearDown100393

      16-0

      This is all rope a dope.

      • AlbertInTucson

        We all wish.

  • Joecashflow

    That pass was 5 feet over everybody.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Today we gained a #3 receiver in Meredith, and lost a decent-looking QB.

  • AlbertInTucson

    We wish.

  • BearDown100393

    Meaningless?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Fuggit. I’d give Shaw a roster spot. Can we do that? Keep AJ, Meredith, White and Bellamy .. BJ Daniels. Cut Royal and his 5 million.

    • BearDown100393

      Only if he is a salamander.

    • willbest

      Why would you give a guy a roster spot he who probably won’t physically be able to play before week 10 when you don’t have to?

      • BearDown100393

        Playoffs.

        • willbest

          There is PUP available now, you get that play around week 8, and there is also IR-designated to return if you are really think he is special. Of course, if we are in the playoffs without Cutler is pretty much game over.

          • BearDown100393

            Playoffs! Playoffs?

          • willbest

            I thought we all drank kool-aid and this was a rope a dope performance.

          • BearDown100393

            Experiencing very strange swings of optimism and negativity.

    • We can put him on IR. “Red shirt” him.

      • willbest

        We should put him on IR if its an 8+ week recovery anyway. Its the honorable thing to do.

        • BearDown100393

          We all know running a NFL franchise is about honor and doing the right thing.

          • willbest

            We did it for Johnny Knox. Sometimes it happens.

          • BearDown100393

            That was Jerry and Lovie

          • willbest

            That is true, pace is a robot.

    • SC Dave

      Bellamy looks like he belongs.

  • Joecashflow

    Ok, the guy that showed promise as a backup is probably gone. Other takeways? “Will review the film and fix some things”.

  • BearDown100393

    The Bears cannot even do a postgame show without screwing up.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Dak Prescott. The next qb for The Bears to make look like a hall of famer.

    • BearDown100393

      Next week: RGIII Redemption Tour

  • Joecashflow

    And I stayed up until 3:30am for this. Cant help it. In my veins.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ha, me too.

      But it certainly wasn’t meaningless. Cameron had his coming out party, but more tellingly is losing a QB who looked like he could step in for Cutty .. and perhaps even make us better?

      • PaceBot 2000

        make us better than Cutler. God damn it Irish.

        • SC Dave

          Optimism does interesting things to people.

      • Scharfinator

        Dat koolaid tho

  • BearDown100393

    Dan Hampton be like Doug Buffone right before chest pains.

    • I think Trestman killed Buffone. I really do.

      • BearDown100393

        Hampton has not taken a breath after about 5 minutes of berating.

        • willbest

          That is how you know he is one of the lizard people.

          • BearDown100393

            “Cuddy Whitehair”

  • BearDown100393

    John Fox is really itchy. Whenever he knows he’s running bs to the press, he scratches himself.

  • BearDown100393
  • BearDown100393

    Cutler {about Kevin White}: We know he can run really fast.

    • SC Dave

      That’s good on offense if you have the ball. Otherwise, not so much

  • willbest

    Ian is reporting Shaw broke his leg above the ankle, if there is no ligament damage he will be back this season.

    • BearDown100393

      Uh be back to do what exactly?

      • willbest

        Play football? It means he might end up on the PUP rather than the IR.

        • BearDown100393

          He might practice football. Unless of course you believe Cutler is not playing 16 this year and Hoyer will be cut.

          • willbest

            uhh… well looking at the o-line I am going to have to take the under on 16 games played this season. And looking at Hoyer’s play I am going to take the under 3 games starting (assuming Cutler is out for that many)

        • you can’t go on PUP if you’ve practiced even once this year.

          He’ll go on IR. Only way they consider using their only return designation on him is if Cutler gets hurt, IMO.

          • willbest

            you mean from the start of training camp? White got hurt in minicamp or OTAs and was put on PUP

          • yes, from the start of training camp.

    • SC Dave

      Wow… still shit, but much better than I feared.

  • willbest

    Jeff is defending Hoyer on twitter.

    • SC Dave

      Have a great time with that, Jefe.

      • SC Dave

        It’s probably too stupid to even read.

        • BearDown100393

          Hoyer must’ve flashed throwing footballs to tryout recruits after the jug machine ran dry and everyone missed it.

  • DOOM DOOM DOOM

    WE’RE SCREWED!!!!!

    0-16 guaranteed

    • BearDown100393

      Connor Shaw will be back. And deliver a victory.

      • SC Dave

        With Braverman! They’ll make everyone forget about Brady and what’s-his-name…

    • MB30SD

      Exactly.

      The sky is falling again this week. Omg omg omg!!!

      Data, you and i might as well switch over to the cowboys, THEY have an insane oline, amazing running backs, a decent D, and a 10 yr starter AND a great looking back up qb.

      What do you think?!?!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Romo out until after mid-season too. Dak Prescott era begins.

  • PaceBot 2000

    The season is alive. Cutler survived and so did alshon. Trevathan held out as coaches decision. 11-5

    • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

      11-5. ha

      • PaceBot 2000

        I think it’s telling that white hasn’t gone deep yet. Our starting TE and slot WR aren’t in and we haven’t been running a ton of passes to either alshon or white. I’m pretty sure that the Bears could street ball their way down the field with that lineup. I’m kind of concerned but not really.

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    It Jay gets hurt the season is over. What’s the difference? https://twitter.com/risingbetts/status/769629447636910080

    It wasn’t over if we had Shaw to back him up. Hoyer is brutal.

    • willbest

      Why? Shaw have a lot of chemistry with White/Jeffery? Shaw know what its like to have the Von Millers of the world running at you? Shaw know what its like having the Revis of the world on your #1?

      The kid looks good against who he plays with, that doesn’t mean he will look good against the best there is.

      • SC Dave

        This is all true, but do you think he’ll look any worse than Hoyer? I don’t.

        But I’ve been wrong before.

      • Irish Sweetness

        His accuracy, touch and mobility has nothing to do with the opposition.
        Sam Bradford looked great yesterday. Those throws were nothing to do with his opposition.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Your #1 goes down. You’re done.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Not if we had Conor though. That much as clear. Hes a baller. He’s accurate, and more mobile than Cutty. We could have won with Shaw. It’s pure failure to prepare to say that if your #1 goes down then you’re don. Your #2 should be ready to step in and be #1. I think Shaw was that guy. Hoyer is not.

        • CanadaBear

          Sounds good in theory but there are about 20-25 guys that can play QB and consistently win in the NFL. Pretty hard to snag 2 of them. I’m not sold on the kid but totally agree Hoyer is brutal.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Cutler after the game:

    “There’s going to be growing pains. That’s just kind of how it is. Missed his rookie year, not playing a ton of college football, and then throwing him out there. There’s going to be some growing pains with that. That’s just how it is. We’re working with him and he’s doing everything he possibly can to work through it and be where he’s supposed to be and he understood it. I talked to him on the sideline and just told him ‘This is going to happen, and now you know and now it can’t happen again. We can’t have repeat mistakes.’. He’s a good kid. He’s going to do well.”

  • BearDown100393

    “It’s a tough break, man,” Jeffery said.. {When asked about Connor Shaw’s injury}

    • MB30SD

      Get it? Break…. get it??

      Too soon?

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    If you believe the scores of preseason games are meaningful indicators of the season to come you lose all credibility.

    True but here’s numbers that I find concerning:

    Plays runs first half -KC 48, Bears 13.

    Offense couldn’t stay ON the field. Defense couldn’t get OFF of it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We’ve played three playoff teams in a row and we have key injuries. We couldn’t do much better really.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “Key Injuries”.

        Meh.

        Miller & Ware didn’t play for Denver (And Trevathan has changed addresses) and their pass rush still looked like a jail break.

        No Brady or Gronk for the Pats. (AND no Shea McClellin!)

        No Jamaal Charles, Tomba Hali or Eric Berry and another defensive starer, I believe, yesterday for KC.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Was the hit on Shaw an illegal low blow?

    • SC Dave

      I’d be surprised if anything comes of it.

    • Joecashflow

      It was after the play, he got rolled on while he was standing. Not intentional. I think he may have avoided it by taking one step back, but maybe it happened too fast. He was playing great. Then Hoyer came back in and sucked the wind out of all momentum.

  • BearDown100393

    Preseason – “Meaningless”, 1st Half – “A lot of football left to be played” Mid Point – “Run the table”, 2nd Half – “Take care of business and scoreboard watch for help”, End Point – “Pride & next season hope”. The cycle of rhetoric.

  • Cormonster

    Last year the Packers gave up 39 points to the Eagles in the 1st half of the 3rd preseason game. They got their ass kicked. The Packers started the real season 6-1 and the Eagles started 3-4.

    • The difference is the Pack are already a good team, like the Panthers, Pats, Hawks, etc.

      It doesn’t mean much when a perennially good team flails in PS.

      But when a BAD team (like we were, maybe are) does so, it means more.

      IMO it only reinforces the loser culture.

      I don’t care if the Bears lost or messed up, but they COMPLETELY got obliterated.

      The starting O couldn’t do shit and the D held until the dam broke.

      And it’s only a continuation of last season when the Bears continually came out flat

      • SC Dave

        ~238 yards to 20.
        16 first downs to 2.

        Quite the first half.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But it’s easily trackable. A chain is only as strong as its weakest link, and the entire right side of our line is weak. Edison isn’t prepared to make all the calls yet and there was confusion on stunts yesterday.

        There was enough good things from the defense to look forward to.

        • Wagga Wagga

          What if the chain is made out of lead?

    • Joecashflow

      Thanks, I needed that! I We need some leadership on this team, so they come out ready to play. Have no idea yet, who that might be. Cutler seems to be taking more ownership. Hope that translates in the huddle.

      • SC Dave

        Jay has always taken ownership, it’s just that a couple years back he truly became the senior guy.

  • BearDown100393

    Amari caught the ball.

  • SC Dave

    Jeff: “All one needs to do is listen to the words coming from players in post-game pressers to understand they really couldn’t give two shits about the performances and outcomes”

    Typically, one hears that sort of stuff from the losing side.

    • MB30SD

      Or a bad team without any culture/unity.

      I don’t think that is this team…. yet

    • Wagga Wagga

      This is the last year I’m going to give a shit about the Bears……I promise.

      • SC Dave

        You know it ain’t true. We’re all lifers here.

        • Wagga Wagga

          lol

  • Joecashflow

    Now that I see this, Shaw got slammed down after releasing the ball. Can’t tell if cheap shot or just football. https://mobile.twitter.com/CoxSports1/status/769627699014832128/photo/1

    • BearDown100393

      Shaw may have been pulled down by the back of his neck.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Cheap shot. Referee, Gene Steratore, stares right at it and lets it go.

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree. Late pulling him down and I don’t think it was just a coincidence he landed on his lower leg.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Not that it helps Shaw in any case.

          Also, Steratore also looked the other way on a shot that Cutler took which was the exact same hit they called against the Bears earlier.

          • CanadaBear

            I can’t believe the refs are crooked or I couldn’t watch the games but it sure makes you wonder sometimes. I get Favre/Erin sucking up to the refs all the time and getting calls. I don’t get Steratore either. He’s supposed to be this great ref and he seems like every other meh ref but with a case of the ass against the Bears.

          • AlbertInTucson

            HE was all too reminiscent of Ed Hochuli yesterday.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think Hochuli dislikes the Bears, he’s just totally incompetent. I’m not sure having full-time officials is the answer but it would be a better look for the NFL for sure. They could look in the cushions of Roger’s couch for the money to pay for it. I’m sure it would be a lot overall, but the NFL needs to bite the bullet.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I didn’t mean to imply that Hochuli didn’t like the Bears.

            I DID mean to imply that he is totally incompetent.

            Full time officials would mean benefits for them and the NFL doesn’t want to go THERE.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s what I took from it, too. Are you getting concerned about two total stinkers out of 3 games? I understand the ‘just preseason” argument but to me it seems worse than that.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Here’s what concerns me:

            Pass protection or lack thereof.

            Opponents converting 3rd downs with apparent ease.

            Kevin White has been all but invisible.

          • CanadaBear

            Gotta agree with those. The longer it goes on the more concerned I’m getting about the Bears coming out flat. Not saying it’s Nessman 2.0 but it doesn’t seem like the team has much urgency.

          • Joecashflow

            Add run blocking. We are not moving the ball. A few nice runs, but not on average, We need run blocking on first downs to set up the pass.

    • Irish Sweetness

      #99 Rakeem Nunes-Roches. The Bollocks from Belize. Okay Jefe, time to start a campaign to get this fucker disciplined. A no-mark bum who will be jobless in a week’s time just fucked our would-have-been #2. The Charles Martin Effect, whereby a worthless piece of shit casts a long shadow over our team with a needless act of stupidity.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        WOW! Charles Martin Effect in regards to a backup?

      • Joecashflow

        If it wasnt a cheap shot, you would think you would hear something from #99. Otherwise he’said just a dirty player and will get that rep, if he makes any team. Really bummed. The kid was looking good all PS.

    • Wagga Wagga
  • BearDown100393
    • SC Dave

      Wow… lot of stuff in there. I’m wondering about Meredith making the team.

      • CanadaBear

        I think Meredith makes the team. Glad to read about Corn Wash. I read somewhere that Long said he’s not worried about the injury and will be back soon. I hope that’s true. If he’s out for any length of time, the Beloved are fucked. Seems odd that White is making so many mistakes in not all that many chances. Not trying to bag on him but FFS he has had 1 year to get the playbook down. Hopefully it’s just nerves and he gets his shit together.

        • Irish Sweetness

          In fairness to White, AJ had two costly drops as well. Like you mentioned, Merdeith surely makes the team now – he looked like our best receiver out there. Nay, he WAS our best receiver out there.

          • CanadaBear

            It sounded like White lined up wrong/ran wrong route a couple of times in limited snaps Saturday. The drops are gonna happen (as long as it’s a VERY low percentage) and I’m understanding about that. Really frustrated he doesn’t seem to know the playbook after 1+ years.

        • Joecashflow

          Definitely some nerves. You sit out all year and all the hype last year and this. Mikes in his face every practice. Give him some time to settle in. We’ll see his merit mid season.

    • willbest

      I wonder why we always play Cleveland.

      • CanadaBear

        The two teams have had an agreement in place and the NFL is OK with it. That’s all I’ve ever read.

      • Wagga Wagga

        Social imprinting experiment? It sure as hell doesn’t seem to be helping either team.

      • MB30SD

        So we can be better than SOMEONE.

        Hahaha… i keed, I keeeed (I hope)

      • BearDown100393

        Because there is nothing more meaningless than playing the Browns in the 4th preseason game. It cannot be outdone.

        • Big Mike

          Classic

        • Irish Sweetness

          And you’ve always got a chance of winning.

          Close your eyes and cover your ears, Mike ….

          RGIII could carve us a new one next week. He’s got some nice targets for those bombs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      So if Long comes back, they’ll put Larsen back at guard? That’s good news.

      • CanadaBear

        Behind Long or else in a battle with Edison for C.

  • CanadaBear

    I’ve been worried about the O ever since Forte, Black Uni and Slauson left. Unless Nathan Lane is just playing possum (kinda doubt that), the Bears O has nothing to fall back on. I know the biggest issue is the OL but if you aren’t worried about the TE situation, White looking like a 7th rd pick from this year, all the concussions and my biggest beef, coming out flatter than a pool table week after week, you must know something I don’t.

    • BerwynBomber

      Uni took a lot of heat on this board, and some of it was deserved. But the dude can ball.

      If you think back 2-3 years, we arguably had the best collection of skilled players in terms of receiving as any team in the league: BMarsh, Alshon, Uni and Forte.

      • CanadaBear

        Gotta agree. His attitude and behavior was annoying as hell but he brought it on game day. My biggest on-field issue was him sitting down in a zone and then moving about the time Cutler threw the ball. I understood the BMarsh, Black Uni, Forte moves, not happy but understood. The Slauson one is nuts.

        • Irish Sweetness

          If it’s true about them not wanting Slauson to lose face by sitting on the bench then that’s insane. He would now be our starting center, and all we’d need is Long back healthy and ready to go.

          I’ve been sour on Pace for a while now, and my initial fear is coming true. He’s too young. Hasn’t spent enough time killing people in the trenches.

          • CanadaBear

            Not going to give up on POX just yet but it would be nice to see some positive improvements overall. I’m sure the front 7 on D is better than when they arrived but other than that, not so much.

  • CanadaBear

    In case anyone is interested, Al Louis-Jean and Major Wright were cut recently. The Bears could re-visit mistakes from the two previous GM’s.

    • BerwynBomber

      In fairness, ALJ wasn’t much of a mistake. He was an undrafted FA.

      • CanadaBear

        Is that what he was? I thought he was a late rounder. Just being snarky because the Beloved shit the bed yet again.

    • MB30SD

      Um, no thanks

  • EnderWiggin

    Looks like Sanchez may get cut…

    • willbest

      I would expect Denver to roll with 3 QBs

    • BerwynBomber

      I’d still take Sanchez over Hoyer. Sanchez has a lower floor but he also has a higher ceiling. That said, I suspect Sanchize will be out of the league if he’s cut.

      DEN it appears will start Semien and groom Lynch. Probably a smart move.

  • CanadaBear

    Per JD. The Bears waived nine players on Sunday: DL Keith Browner, WR Kieran Duncan, WR Derek Keaton, OL John Kling, RB Senorise Perry, WR Darrin Peterson, DB Joel Ross, TE Gannon Sinclair and OL Martin Wallace. Chicago also terminated the contract of vested veteran FB Darrell Young.

    • willbest

      The Kling is dead.

      • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    • Big Mike

      No surprises really.

      • CanadaBear

        Sounds like Ferguson is on the way out.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Senorise? Damn. And Sinclair is like 6’7, he’s huge.

      • CanadaBear

        Perry was pretty well doomed when they weren’t playing him.

  • BearDown100393

    Erin Andrews – So is that an Olympic gold medal around your neck?
    SImone Biles – Well……. yes.

    Hard hitting journalism right there.

    • willbest

      Simone Biles did you get to bump uglies with Zac Efron like you wanted?

      • Scharfinator

        I hope she did, SHE EARNED IT

  • Big Mike

    Would someone please, please make up a batch of kool aid. I’m drowning in doubt about this squad. I know pre season doesn’t matter. But it doesn’t matter for the other guys either. We looked awful against the Chiefs.

    • willbest

      Biggsy gave it to you earlier. The last time the Bears went 0-4 in the preseason they went on to the NFCC in 2010

      • Big Mike

        I’ve been avoiding the Chicago papers. Thanks for the tip.

        • CanadaBear

          That article is worth reading.

    • Johnnywad

      I think it matters more to some clubs than others. Who really knows what the hell matters until week 1? I’m still scratching my head over all the blitzing Denver did in PS week 1. I didn’t watch the game yesterday so I can’t really say much about that outing.

      In general, they were down some very key pieces in Long, Miller, McPhee ……. Etc.

      I guess we don’t really know who will be ready week one, but I bet many of them will. They also need to settle on a Center from the sounds of things. I’m starting to wonder if that guy is even on the roster right now. Would not surprise me if your week one starter was wearing another jersey this week.

      We’ll see. I have plenty of faith in Fox and the pickups the Bears made this off season. It’ll be fine.

      • Big Mike

        Ok, that’s some Kool Aid. I advise .. don’t watch chiefs pre-season game.

      • CanadaBear

        Hope you’re correct. Is is just me or does it seem like Fox has had the fire turned down low since he’s been here? He just doesn’t seem very feisty.

        • Johnnywad

          I don’t think so. It seemed to me like they really battled every game last year. I felt that was largely due to a culture change from the top down. He’s putting forth a professional product. It did seem like it fell off a bit when McPhee went down though

          • CanadaBear

            You’re probably correct about McPhee being the keeper of the flame.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Here goes.

      (spritzes a little MDMA into the kool-aid)

      What I saw against Kansas was a bunkum OL. New Center and no Long meant for a long day for everybody. Cutty didn’t have the time to let the downfield stuff develop leading to sacks and pressures. We can fix that.

      Edison will get his head around the calls and all the big-boy stuff. Long hopefully didn’t tear his labrum and he’ll be back soon. With Long back, Massie will have his big brother in there telling him what to do, and Edison too for that matter.

      Cameron Meredith had his coming out party with 4 bigtime catches and is a legit #3. In fact he played better than either AJ or White (worried about him). Sadly, the guy who made some of those throws broke his leg – the worst thing about the game for me.

      Yes, the defense had a hard time getting off the field. But that’s the third playoff team in a row they’ve faced, and KC have one of the best lines in the business, and are a top tier running team. Travis Kelce made some superman plays to keep drives going.

      But the positives were many for the D. Jacoby Glenn could be a baller. Hicks was great. Willie Young looked great. Trevathan and Freeman both had flashes. We were without Floyd remember. HQJ looked good. We stuffed most of their runs up the middle, and they are good at running it up the middle.

      (empties the last of the MDMA into the kool-aid and shoots a vial of morphine into Mike’s leg)

      So we need Long back ASAP and everything is sweet. Just say a prayer for the health of Cornelius Edison (…and McPhee … and Floyd … and Conor Shaw).

      Here, drink that.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “So we need Long back ASAP and everything is sweet”.

        Would that it were that simple.

      • Big Mike

        That was some of the legit kool-aid. I feel better.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    Are you done with Mr. RObot, Irish?

    It placed the shark into a howitzer and tried to fire it over the moon.

    • Irish Sweetness

      You mean Elliot really being in prison? Yeah. No doubt Elliot is the writer’s alter ego and it’s his autobiographical rant at big corporations .. .but the writer is a schizophrenic.

  • AlbertInTucson

    For what it’s worth, supposed title contenders, the Arizona Cardinals, have NOT looked very good so far losing 31-10 to Oakland 19-3 to San Diego and 34-24 today in Houston. Their #1s got spanked today and trailed 31-10 at the half.

    • CanadaBear

      I watched part of that. All I could think was Watt will be back by week 1 (Bears luck). The Texans were bitch-slapping them while I had it on.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I hear THAT, Canada.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Is that true about JJ playing in week one?

        • CanadaBear

          He keeps saying he will be back then. Who knows? He seems capable of almost anything.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I heard a sports doc on the radio speculating that the “core surgery” he had will keep him from being 100% until well into the season.

            But even 80% of Watt is probably too much for the Bears to handle.

        • AlbertInTucson

          He’s supposedly back at practice this week.

    • madscout12

      The thing I don’t get is that people think the Texans will be mediocre this year. I see a team with one of the strongest Ds in the NFL with some talent on the other side of the ball who just got competent at QB. I see a playoff team at least and a deep playoff run/SB at best. There are only a few teams in the AFC who are really good, and 0 sure things. The Pats are old and don’t have Brady for 4 weeks. The Broncos could suck at QB. The rapist could get hurt in Pittsburgh. Cincy is CIncy. Luck is playing behind a group of turnstiles. Why not the Texans?

      • Irish Sweetness

        The Dolphins and the Raiders look good.

        • madscout12

          I didn’t think Dolphins, but the Raiders are the other team that could take the next step this year.

          Neither of them are sure things.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I should have said their offense. Nice receivers, backs, QB.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Anyone know about McClellin’s status in New England?

    Belicheat keeps signing FA linebackers.

  • AlbertInTucson

    One of the clickbaits I get here says

    “Caitlyn Jenner wears swimsuit for the first time & you HAVE TO see her”

    Uh, no, I do NOT.

    • CanadaBear

      No kidding!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Dear Media: Stop foisting this attention-seeking freak upon us. Old news. Don’t care. Never did.

        • CanadaBear

          I never liked him as an Olympic champion. Putting on a dress and fake boobs isn’t going to change anything.

  • Irish Sweetness
    • willbest

      There is no chance. Romo has $32 million of dead money on his contract. The Girls have $4 million and cap for 2016 and in 2017 they are actually already 7.6 million of the estimated cap. Romo isn’t going anywhere until 2018.

      They can’t afford anybody but Dak right now.

  • willbest

    So I looked into the Drew Brees situation, and it turns out he has the Saints by the short and curlies. Right now he is getting $30 mil cap hit. But here is the thing. Brees has been franchised twice (once by SD, and once by NO). The 3rd (and final) tag comes with a 44% pay increase, and thus the tag on Brees for 2017 would be $43 million. Basically, he is untagable.

    Its kind of funny seeing Saints fans bitch and moan about Brees being greedy. I guess being a grueling 7 years your city hoisted a Lombardi trophy makes you particularly angsty. I love the he should do what Brady does for love of the team/city… Of course, Mrs. Brady is worth a quarter of a billion dollars on her own, where Mrs. Brees I am sure is a very lovely woman, but not the economic generator her husband is.

    And sure he has already made $150 million, but then he isn’t really guaranteed the Saints GM is going to spend that extra money wisely if he “gave back” $7-10 million a year like Brady does. Belicheat on the otherhand has a history of making competent personnel moves.

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  • AlbertInTucson

    The problem is not “Ball Security”. The problem is “Quaterback Security”!

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