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Thoughts on Alshon Jeffery’s Future in Chicago

| February 22nd, 2016

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Ian Rapoport reported last week the Bears are open to not bringing back Alshon Jeffery in 2016. Here are some thoughts.

  • I’ve never believed the theory that the Bears selected Kevin White in the 2015 draft because of a best player available philosophy. I believe they selected White because they envision him as a dynamic, game-changing, number one wide receiver. By the same token they don’t view Jeffery that way. Does Jeffery have that potential? Absolutely. But is he among the game’s best at the position? No.
  • Leaking this news to RapSheet serves a particular purpose for the Bears. They have now let people in Jeffery’s camp know they are comfortable with him walking out the door. It’s very clear the Bears don’t intend to break the bank for Jeffery so they are trying to convince him to take a team friendly, long-term deal.
  • The Bears have a ton of cap space. Not sticking Jeffery with the franchise tag makes zero sense if they believe he’s part of their future.
  • If Ryan Pace decides to move on from Jeffery, he better be sure. Letting a terrific player leave your organization in his prime, especially if he succeeds elsewhere, is not something fans let a GM forget.

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  • CanadaBear

    If Pace let’s Alshon walk, he’s nuts. We all know how everyone feels about Alshon but when healthy, he is a difference maker. He’s also perfect for Cutler. He can go get jump balls with the best of them and let’s be honest, he has to be pretty acrobatic due to Cutler’s accuracy (in the ball park but usually never in stride).

    • Trac

      Pace won’t let Jeffery go without a plan. I’m not worried about this.

      • Sactowns#1

        Exactly what “plan” did he have in place when he got rid of BMarsh and Peanut? I’m not holding my breath.

        • Johnnywad

          Draft picks and not paying a player that had no arms left?

          Pace has done extremely well to this point. It’s impossible to keep a guy like Marshall if you’re in a complete tear down and trying to establish a new culture. Peanut was my favorite Bear, but he had nothing left. I really hoped he would go somewhere and get a ring. He damn near did.

          Decisions like those are tough, but he made the right call both times.

          • CanadaBear

            I hated the BMarsh giveaway. Although I’m pretty sure in a couple more years Jets fans will be feeling the same way as Bears fans. Glad when he arrived, scratching their heads when he leaves.

          • Johnnywad

            It’s hard to give up on premium talent. But that said, last season was a do or die year for Cutler. I really feel like the culture change had as much to do with Cutler’s success last season as anything else. He played far more consistently with a less talented group of receivers. Let’s see what it looks like this year if Alshon stays nd White’s injury was a fluke. Because that was the vision when Marshall was traded.

          • Sactowns#1

            Please look at the record of the following teams last year. The Chicago Bears. The Ny Jets. The Carolina Panthers. Please look at how many ints and passes defended Peanut had. Please look at the Bears CB’s. Please look at BMarshs stats vs all Bears receivers.
            What facts do you have to support your claim that Pace made the right move?

          • Johnnywad

            Well for starters, Tracy Porter had 12 PD. Peanut had 7. So nearly twice the passes defended by a nobody. And that’s on the back end of a defense with no pass rush. Peanut played behind a great front 7.

            Secondly, Brandon Marshall has a screw loose. I love his game, but if you’re trying to rebuild a team, those types of players have to go.

            Third, are you really suggesting Peanut is the difference between the Bears’ record and the Panthers’?

            Fourth, when Pace traded Marshall, I would guess he was planning to roll with Alshon and KW, which is very likely a damn potent crew. They both got hurt, that doesn’t mean the decision Pace made at the time he made it, was a bad one.

          • Sactowns#1

            So he drafted a player with known injury issues, said player doesn’t play a down and somehow he made the right move?
            And no, Peanut didn’t singlehandedly make that a SB team. But the mans a leader and if you’re going to throw around the total conjecture of “BMarsh is a locker room cancer who was bringing down the team” then you must also apply the inverse, that “Peanut is a locker room panacea who builds up his team”
            So far I haven’t seen a single move that I can hang my hat on and say “Yup, Pace is a huge upgrade.” So far all I’ve seen are some boneheaded moves which didn’t pay off.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            White did not have known injury issues. He got injured in training camp.

          • Johnnywad

            White didn’t have an injury history. He was healthy. That’s total BS.

            Urlacher was a leader. Kreutz was a leader. At some point, a team has to cut ties with beloved players. Peanut wouldn’t have made a damn bit of difference this year in Chicago.

            As for your assessment of Pace, I just disagree.

          • Sactowns#1

            I’m saying based on the moves he’s made so far I’m not willing to say he’s either an upgrade or downgrade. Show me some sort of improvement, otherwise it’s all “hope and change” as some would deride.

          • Johnnywad

            Ryan Pace is light years better than Phil Emery. It’s definitely an upgrade. It a huge upgrade.

          • BearDown100393

            Marshall wanted to be on television in New York. Pace didn’t.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Word, Sac. One of the best receivers in the league, on half the salary.

        • BearDown100393

          Sanity was restored in the locker room. And Cutler was a better quarterback for it.

          • Sactowns#1

            What evidence do you have to prove your theory? It seems a lot of talking heads and team mouthpieces like to throw around terms like “team culture” and “locker room environment” to justify unpopular and stupid moves. The proof is in the tasting of the pudding and last years pudding tasted like poop!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Upvoting that on the basis of the poop-pudding analogy alone.

          • Doc Nitty

            Great minds, Rabbit. Great minds.

          • BearDown100393

            So….. Jay Cutler didn’t play better last season?

          • MB30SD

            Exactly this

        • Scharfinator

          Peanut got hurt again. BMarsh is understandable, but hard to watch him go.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Pace has got to at least tag him. I would hate to see him with Detroit as a replacement for Calvin, or god forbid GB.

  • beninnorcal

    I think they should franchise tag him. Until White actually see’s the field and proves durable, you have to keep a known quantity.

    • SC Dave

      So this. White is, to date, a known quantity. That is, zero snaps played.

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

    Caption this photo:

    http://tinyurl.com/zmuuv5d

    • Sactowns#1

      Yeah though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death of society I will fear no evil or eye contact.

    • Doc Nitty

      These guys are gonna be pissed when they take off their goggles and see I’m not really Kate Upton on a catwalk.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Guy on the Apple : “This is a stoopid idea …. I hate these team-building weekends … Zuckerberg’s an IDIOT!!”

  • Trac

    Has anyone asked Jay what he wants?

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football/7/71/1218979/jay-cutler-possibility-alshon-jeffery-departs

    And there you have it! Sorry I scooped you Jeff. Where have all the journalist gone?

    • Doc Nitty

      Sounded like a non-answer to me, Trac.

      • Trac

        Exactly. Nowhere near a glowing endorsement. To me, that says a lot.

    • willbest

      I would need to know how the question was worded to him.

      • MB30SD

        Stop badgering the witness

  • Sactowns#1

    Idk… he’s a pretty good player. We should probably just let him go or trade him for a 6th round draft pick.

    • CanadaBear

      Can’t trade him without a contract.

      • Sactowns#1

        Oh of course you sign him to a big deal before trading him for a ham sandwich.

        • Trac

          Nope, Emery and Angelo are no longer with the team.

          • Sactowns#1

            Please see BMarsh trade for example.

          • MB30SD

            There’s a diff between a locker room cancer and lazy ass. You deal with them very differently

          • Doc Nitty

            In so much as BMarsh WAS a locker room cancer, I’d take the cancer over the lazy ass. His cancer was a nuisance but I do not think it was terminal. There is no cure for lazy and it can be cancerous too.

          • Sactowns#1

            Bingo. A real GM lets the new coach assess what kind of issues the players have and if they can be coached etc. Pace didn’t do that. I’ll BMarsh, a guy who balls out with his heart in his sleeve, over a guy who just shrugs and says oh well.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t want either of those slackjawed cunts on my team. To the gallows with the lot of them!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Winning cures all.

          • MB30SD

            agree 100%. sloth is my least favorite sin (did I get that right Trac?!?)

            …that said, bmarsh obviously was terminal. You don’t throw that away unless it threatens your culture. Bmarsh was one of my fav modern bears, and I still think it was the right decision looking back. (and yes I saw the year he had, and yes I think his continued presence would 100% benefit alshon)

          • Doc Nitty

            Not that you intended on entering into a philosophical inquiry about which of the seven deadly sins are your least favorite, but I’d have to go with greed. Though sloth is high on the list.

            Greed: What in the history of humanity has trumped it as a catalyst for evil?

            Eviiiil. As in the Fruiitz of the deviiil.

            And lust? What’s the big deal with lust? That might be favorite of the deadly sins. Though I enjoy gluttony a great deal as well from time to time. But couldn’t gluttony be described as greed for the belly? And so does it really deserve it’s own category? And lust? Lust is just greed for the cock n balls. . It always comes back to greed.

          • In Dante’s Inferno, and most canonical lit, lust was always the least ‘deadly’. Most didn’t think it a big deal.

            Pride was always the worst, then there’s everything in between.

            Also, there were originally like 9 deadly sins, but it got cut down cuz 7 is catchier.

            I mean, you can’t watch a movie called “9”! What’s in the box? Two more deadly sins that were conflated for the peasants.

          • Cormonster

            And who in their right mind would name their kid 9? Seven, on the other hand, is a pretty cool name for a kid.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Benjamin Stickney, infamous of the Michigan-Wisconsin border war, named ALL of his kids numbers.
            One Stickney
            Two Stickney

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Well, not all, his daughter was named Indiana.

          • SC Dave

            7 of 9, then?

          • Cormonster

            I would put envy right up there with greed as a catalyst for evil, especially in the 20th Century with Marxist philosophy put into practice.

          • The deadly sins are an interesting concept.

            Typically Pride was sorta the “touchstone” of all other sins.

            For example, if you didn’t have pride, you didn’t have envy.

            Usually only ppl who feel entitled (pride) feel envy. Same with wrath, and a few others.

            But Christianity was very much influenced by platonic/manchiean dualities.

            Aristotle’s philo came in threes, including sex.

            Too much, hedonistic. Too little, frigid.

            Just the tip…just right….

          • Cormonster

            Yeah, many of them seem intertwined, or the cause of a certain action could be attributed to several of the sins. Take a thief, for example. The theft could be attributed to pride, or entitlement. Or envy: why should that rich person or boss have all this stuff. He’s screwing people over, so I’ll steal from him or said business. Or it could be attributed to greed or lust of an object or money or whatever.

          • MB30SD

            That’s what you tell ’em

          • Doc Nitty

            Interesting. And envy, one could argue, is greed for that which someone else has. That or it could be considered the yin to greeds yang.

          • no, greed is diff, doc.

            Greed is just moneygrubbing.

            Envy is MUCH worse. It’s craving something you can’t have, and usually leads to hate for those who do have it.

          • MB30SD

            Ohhhhh, says the man with experience, hmmmm? Yeeees?

            I’m sorry I have a healthy dating life man, let it go already!

          • Trac

            Football is still a team sport yes? Personnel decisions are never easy but when you have a player that doesn’t fit the teams Chemistry, their value declines.

          • BearDown100393

            … or the Jets… or the Dolphins… or the Broncos…

      • That Guy

        The trade proposal would be a “tag and trade” where you apply the tag and then let another team negotiate with him.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I honestly don’t think any team in the league would pay the man 15m. He’s not that receiver.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            And you would be wrong.

    • dmckendree@post.com

      I love irony

    • Trac

      Let’s be clear minded Sac, Alshon ain’t no superstar. I’m all for tagging crazy talented players but Pace has already passed on the opportunity to ink Jeffery to a long term deal. You dance with the girl you take to the prom and Pace looks like he’s gonna sit this one out.

      • willbest

        It really has to be because Jeffery isn’t the prima dona that every other #1 WR is. Guy kept his head down and nose clean, and produced like a top 10 WR in the NFL.

        • Trac

          What’s your guess? Is he staying or going?

          • willbest

            I think they are going to play chicken to get him to come down a little bit and tag him on Feb 29. If they use the tag they are basically admitting he deserves a 5-70 mil deal.

  • Sactowns#1

    Cromartie released today. He’s a little older but with 31 career INT’s why not take a flyer on the guy for 2 years $10mil.

    • Bender McLugh

      as long as he’s not broken that sounds like a good plan

    • Doc Nitty

      Do you really want more orphans in Chicago?

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        Antonio Cromartie never pulls out. Ever!

        • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

          And we used to call Urlacher Child Support

          • BearDown100393

            Cromartie signing with the Bears…. Joliet bus passes to Chicago spiking, not unrelated

        • Shady

          Perhaps more importantly he doesn’t wrap up.

          • MB30SD

            Ha!!!

            Well played sir

  • willbest

    The only way Jeffery should leave Chicago is if they were lying about soft tissue injuries and it was really something more serious. At which point you will see him fall apart in 2 years.

    But if Jeffery continues to be one of the 15 best NFL WRs then the only thing that will save Pace’s job will be a Lombardi trophy. I don’t even care if White is the next megatron. If you can afford to put a top 15 and a top 3 WR on the field you do. End of story.

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

    Could we get Swole from the Giants?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brandon_Meriweather

  • Irish Sweetness

    Interesting.

    This is why I was curious to see what happened on tag day. This is the Pace litmus test.
    Look at the top 5 receivers by salary in the NFL, Dez, CJ etc. Alshon is clearly not in that league. Never was, never will be. He has exactly 4 TDs without someone called Brandon Marshall drawing coverage. Paying him 15M would have been pure insanity IMHO.

    So Pace has obviously told his agent, look, here’s 8M a year for 5. Take it or leave it. The agent is deluded like agents are, and wants top whack. Pace isn’t budging.

    Is he letting DeAndre Hopkins or Odell walk out the door? No. He’s potentially letting a tier 2 guy who just missed 7 games walk out the door. Nobody in the league is giving this guy 15M dollars a year. Nobody.

    Let’s say he walks. It means we have a shit load of cash to make our team better. It means Wilkerson and Trevathan become Bears. We pick up Travis Benjamin and whichever of the 6’3-6’5 26 year olds POX likes, and match them up with our stud.

    It was hard watching them trade Brandon for a ham sandwich, but I’m liking his style. No sentimental BS on the Forte thing, and now admitting that AJ ain’t all that.

    I like this guy. Go Bears.

    • MB30SD

      have to agree on pretty much all of it. that said, only time will tell and only hindsight is 20/20… so into the breach boys!

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      for what its worth- Its being reported the Benjamin is close to resigning with the Browns

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/02/22/report-browns-close-to-re-signing-travis-benjamin/

    • That’s the rub, Irish.
      A team WILL pay Alshon $15M and give him Dez mula. Why? Because I’m pretty certain all those guys, AJ, Antonio Brown, etc, will also be getting raises soon.

      It only takes ONE idiotic team to overpay and make greedy agents right, and there’s always one desperate team (usu the Browns or their ilk) who overpay because that’s the only way they can recruit talent.

      I’m on record arguing Alshon should not get paid more than Hilton. In my eyes, they’re in the same tier. IF POX wanna give him extra cash up front, then fine, but his cap shouldn’t be more than Hilton overall.

      I brought this up before. I can’t think of a team that had TWO top WRs win a SB.

      I guess one can say Demaryious and Sanders are like 1A and 1B, but they didn’t do shit the entire playoffs, so I really don’t count them.

      I suggested trading Alshon at the start of last season (b4 he inj his vaj-jay…again), and ppl were calling me crazy.

      Well, I knew this would happen, and it would’ve been better to get something out of him (a 2nd and conditional).

      Alshon’s gonna want $15M + and there’s little POX can do to change that. He’s in a no-win situation.

      Overpay an inj prone, soft, and maybe lazy player, or let him walk out the door and deplete the team of talent while gambling on a total unknown in White.

      Option 3 is tag and trade, but when does that ever happen?

      • Irish Sweetness

        I was surprised that Hilton is like #6 on the salary list.

        POX know they have their #1 in White. I never saw him play, but he’s a good kid and he ticks all the boxes of a #1. For 10M you could sign two solid lanky guys for your go-up-and-get-em balls. Maybe AJ missing 7 games last season was a tell, maybe it wasn’t. He had 3 years to show us the X-factor. I can only speak for me, but I didn’t see it.

        • MB30SD

          See, sadly thus doesn’t work at all in the nfl. If not for long us true in the nfl, so is you can’t judge a book by its cover… or draft position.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          NO ONE has seen him play in the NFL.
          Jeeeebus, Irish, I want him to be a stud too but he’s got to f-cking suit up and play to know if he’s your #1. And no, you can’t just go sign any tall guy that was a #4 option on the Bengals to be your #2. That’s how you end up with your #1 getting blanketed in coverage and your offense being the shit-show it was for about a decade here.

          • CanadaBear

            Bless you!

        • Sactowns#1

          He’s only 6’2.. I say only because many of the top WR’s are taller and many of the top receivers are now TE’s for a reason, they big!

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        SB team with 2 top WRs – Indy with Wayne and Harrison or Rams with Holt and Bruce

        The problem is not having 2 top WRs, it’s having 2 WRs being paid top WRs money. If we think White is going to be a top receiver, great, but we don’t know. We have him on a rookie contract for a few more years, so we could spend on a top end WR. The production i saw from Alson tells me he is capable of being that but has to prove it. so i say Tag him.

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    I’ve emailed everybody I know with Bears insight far better than mine. Not a single one thinks Bears won’t franchise Alshon. Not one.

    They don’t know Pace very well then. Not his M.O. thus far.

    AJ was targeted 94 times in 2015, he caught 54 of those. 4 were TDs. FOUR. Is that good?
    The man is a #2 WR at best, and you don’t pay a #2 WR fifteen million dollars if you’re an intelligent GM.

    • That Guy

      Okay Irish. I will propose a bet.

      If the Bears do not franchise Alshon, or if they sign him to a deal with less than $12M average, I will post 500 words on why your preferred government conspiracy is a verifiable fact.

      If the Bears franchise Alshon or sign him to a deal with more than $12M average per year, you will write 500 words on why America is the greatest country in the world.

      If Alshon is traded, I win. If he signs with another team, you win.

      • Doc Nitty

        I can’t decide who I want to win!

        • MB30SD

          Bang bang?

        • Scharfinator

          Whoever win’s, the rest of us ALL win. 🙂

      • MB30SD

        Love this NB. Classic. Haha

      • Cormonster

        Hey Guy. I’ll start up a game of chess one of these days. Just haven’t had the motivation to play lately and needed a little break.

        • Doc Nitty

          Our game expires in 42 minutes.

        • Doc Nitty

          By the way, you should send me a text. I lost your digits with the cell phone switchage.

          *Edit. Disregard. I found it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Awesome. Deal.

        Your essay will be on The Federal Reserve Ponzi scheme. I’m feeling confident.

        • Trac

          Carry this thought to the end.

          1 Central Bank Worldwide. They’re getting there rather quickly, wouldn’t you say?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I believe the last non-Rothschild owned countries were Venezuela, Iran, Syria and two others. I don’t know about China.

        • That Guy

          We shall see sir.

          To clarify the bottom line of my challenge post. If Alshon is traded, I win. If he signs with another team (after being cut), you win.

    • Trac

      I agree but then again, this is football we’re talking about.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      not sure Pace has been a GM long enough to have an M.O. especially since this is the first time he has been in the position of using a tag or not.

    • Doc Nitty

      How can he have an M.O. after one season?

      • Irish Sweetness

        M.O. Thus far. Brandon’s a great receiver – had no problem 86ing his ass.
        Matty was well-liked, let him walk likewise. Bushrod was easier. Uni’s next, no doubt.
        Pace has shown he’s not in the mood for handing out dollars to guys that aren’t doing it, are on the slippery slope, or just want payment beyond reality.

        AJ hasn’t exactly shown greatness, and he (his agent) wants to get paid like it. And I’d like to have him around, for sure, but I’d rather have Mo Wilkerson and Danny Trevathan breathing down somebody’s neck in a Bears’ uniform. Then you sign a Sanu and one of the Jets’ cast-offs, or whoever. If you draft a guy like Derrick Henry in the second, then no defense is worried about your receivers anyway.

        I don’t think Pace is buying it. I’d be surprised if he tags AJ. Very.

        • willbest

          I got to watch about 7 Broncos games this year. And I would rather have Jeffery than DT.

          Also, how much was Jeffery targeted in the red zone? Their offense always fell apart in the red zone. Under Testicle BMarsh, Unit, and AJ would post up in the end zone. I never saw Jeffery post up, and I saw unit do it all of twice.

          • MB30SD

            Meeeehhhhh… pretty specious argument there counselor. The rest I just don’t really agree with. I’m not a fan of aj, dude’s a lazy pos and will never perform to a big new contract.

          • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

            he’s soft

          • MB30SD

            ed zachary. soft, fat, and lazy… it’s a turrible way to go through the NFL

          • willbest

            Well he is going to get a big money deal. If not with the Bears, somewhere. So one of us will be eating crow in 1-2 years.

          • MB30SD

            I believe sir that my record on that one is pretty good thus far. Although I was pulling for CJones and the hammer

          • Irish Sweetness

            He missed 40 balls this year. Is that all on Cutty?

            And if a passing offense “always fell apart in the end zone” .. .who is that on? Nothing wrong with Cutty’s accuracy up close … the protection was good this year … that leaves it on the receiver. And if your go-up-and-get-it guy could only come down with it 4 times ….

            Great receivers don’t need the ball on the money. Anywhere in the vicinity and they make it happen. AJ just isn’t that guy. Is he worth a spot on the roster? Yes he is. For 15 million dollars? No way known.

          • CanadaBear

            Just about everything in this post is BS. Nothing wrong with Cutler’s accuracy up close … have you even watch the Bears in the last few years? Protection was not good. It was inconsistent. Alshon is one of the best in the NFL at coming up with the ball when it’s not on the money. He has to be if he wants to be successful with Cutler.

            You make all these arguments that Alshon is not worth the money and then go on and on about a guy that hasn’t played a down in the NFL. Not to mention, your track record bragging about WR’S is dubious at best.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t ‘brag’ bout WRs C-Bear. I have supported certain Bear receivers over the years,from whatever mediocre batch we had. Kevin White was the consensus joint top-receiver going into that draft. It doesn’t matter what I think, he will show us in within a few weeks of the season he’s our #1.

          • CanadaBear

            Yes, time will tell.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not only have I been watching, I’ve been watching sober.

            Comprehension time. “…the protection was good this year …: and it was. His accuracy is okay over short to medium distances. Even downtown on the lasers, he’s pretty accurate. The only time he is not accurate is on the rainbows to the deep sidelines.

            And in no way is Alshon one of the best in the NFL at coming down with the ball when it’s nowhere near him. That’s crack-smokin right there.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            40 missed? he got targeted 40 times he did not catch the ball. and yes a lot of that is on Cutty, but some is the Defense, some is throwing the ball away, and 4 of them were considered dropped. he caught around 57% of the passes thrown to him which is not all that great but it is on close to several of the “big” name receivers.

          • BearDown100393

            There was very little if any (due to injury) deep threat wide out passing option for Cutler. Alshon was hurt since camp. When he dressed, he was clearly not performing 100%. Disables him breaking loose from coverage and obviously chasing down footballs. Not sure how that is on Cutler. Just saying.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Dos Anjos just dropped out of the fight.

    • Sactowns#1

      Don’t nobody want none of that crazy Irishman.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Get the fuck out of here!!

      DUDE I WAS COUNTING ON THAT SHIT!

      2/1 first round. fack.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Broke his foot. Nate Diaz or Cerrone now. I hope it’s Cerrone. That won’t last 20 seconds.

  • willbest

    The fact that Suh is now causing the Dolphins issues, or Brees the Saints cap fits is what causes those other GMs to not commit that kind of money. Not the owners getting together and saying “Don’t spend more than X for a DE”. I don’t understand how Jeff comes up with conspiracy theories about evil billionaire owners when there are literally 200 examples in evidence of overpaying FA being bad.

    The Bears find themselves in the position of only needing to give real consideration to 2 players in the next 3 years (Jeffery and Long). The result will hopefully be what Elway did in Denver. That does not happen very often though.

    • Trac

      Jess, I think Jeff is down on the slave trading.

      • willbest

        Has he written his annual NFL Combine as slave auction comment yet? Just dispising and disgusting might imply it, but something a bit more overt I think is necessary to qualify.

        • Johnnywad

          I think the implication tweet was just the tip of the iceberg. He can’t help it.

          I love me some Jeff Hughes but his distaste for the “combine as slave auction” is funny as hell to me.

          Actual slaves would punch him in the dick for comparing the two.

          • And they do it in every sport to one extent or another.

            The NFL just is ahead of the curb with a lot of sport’s metrics.

            I love the combine, and a lot of ‘fringe’ players love it too cuz they get a chance to make like a million dollar raise or more.

            If some dude wants to poke and prod me just for the chance of me becoming a multimillionaire, sign me up!

            (don’t get any ideas, MB…nttawwt…)

          • Johnnywad

            It’s done everywhere. Try enlisting in the military

          • willbest

            This thread went into some dark dark places.

          • MB30SD

            settle down, let’s not be so presumptuous of ourselves tiger.

          • MB30SD

            and it’s not fun to be punched in the dick my man.

            My 5 yr old did that shit to me last weekend. Thank peaches my phallus is so wide that it shielded my testicles, and they never got involved in the melee.

          • Johnnywad

            Your five year old is bad ass.

            Sure you weren’t just doing “the tuck” from Silence of the Lambs? That would explain both why he punched you and how the jewels were unscathed.

          • MB30SD

            Ever see a tuna can?

          • Johnnywad

            Yes. The tuna can drove me away from the gym for good in the 90’s. Old tuna can sucks.

          • MB30SD

            I have no idea what we’re talking about any more.

          • Johnnywad

            Alshon’s exorbitant contract I think.

          • MB30SD

            I am alshon’s gimpy hip

          • MB30SD

            and his sister is actually the badass, he’s usually the sweet cuddly one.

          • Irish Sweetness

          • Doc Nitty

            I got dropped to my knees by my seven year olds karate kick to the nuts last weekend. this was no graze.

          • MB30SD

            sucks man. my little guy did it on purpose, he got an against-the-wall timeout for 10 minutes… and I haven’t given one of those is 6-8 months. in general my kids are super good, I don’t put up with bullshit… grabassing is fine, bullshit it not.

          • Irish Sweetness

            The MMA is working. Five year old Conor fan wrapped up my legs and dropped me the other day. I was so proud of her. BJJ. Baby Ju Jitsu.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            They were child-sized fist, that’s not something you should be bragging about…zing!

          • MB30SD

            My boy has freakishly large hands for his size…. think those hulk hands toy.

            It’s well known that I have a small penis and that I’m merely compensating.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ain’t no millionaire slaves. True dat.

            Money gives you more choices, not fewer. Money buys choice.

          • SC Dave

            Evrah one is a slave to the Fed, Irish.

      • MB30SD
    • burntorangenavyblue

      I have no sympathy for players about the money situation because no one is holding a gun to their head to play for millions of dollars. Tired of the player pity partiers

  • BearDown100393

    Random speculative thought – Last season was supposed to be Alshon Jeffery’s year to produce on the field in order to garner the big paycheck beyond his rookie deal. He limped out of training camp and never really recovered throughout the season. Before last season, I don’t really recall questions/concerns/debates over his character or game. His season was a disappointment. How much of dressing/not dressing was really in his control? Or what plays would be run when he was on the field? What was management telling him? Or his agent? Obviously everyone would have had an opinion expressed especially during a contract year. Furthermore, all athletes react differently to injuries. Has he dealt with the situation before? Simply throwing out everyday possible scenarios. This didn’t go as planned for either the Bears or Alshon. But I’m not certain there is fault here.

    • Trac

      It’s not about fault imo. It’s about building a winning team. That’s the only thing Pace is focused on. Does AJ help or hurt his chances at doing that? So far, Pace has been playing “the price is right”. If Forte’s price wasn’t right, what makes you think Jeffery ‘ s price is right? There’s gotta be 3 playoff teams getting ready to bid on him. I think Pace is going to let him walk.

      • willbest

        No way. Tag him and pay him 14 million. He was going to average that over the life of his contract anyway. And we have the room.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We don’t have the room to pay a #2 WR a #1 salary, no. And in no way shape or form does AJ’s future salary average that kind of money. If somebody pays him that, he will exemplify what POX saw as a red flag, and he will exit the league.

      • willbest

        To add, I just think there is WAY too much risk in Jeffery. If Forte goes to the Pats and puts up 900 yards from scrimmage, and 6 TDs next year people will grumble about him still having another year in the tank. If Jeffery goes to the Chargers or Giants and puts up 1500 yards and 8TDs people are going to lose their shit, Virginia included.

        • Trac

          Whoa to the team that purchases his services to be their #1 WR. I don’t think it’s prudent to franchise a #2 wide out with toughness question marks.

          • willbest

            Until White does something, Jeffery is the #1 WR, and I am more concerned with White being injury prone/play through pain/work ethic because at least Jeffery got on the field his first year.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Nah. If it looks like a duck, walks like a duck …. White is a stud. AJ was never a stud.

          • SC Dave

            White has zero snaps. Can’t be softer than that.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Not if we get a guy in who gets those 8 TDs for a lot cheaper.

      • Seems like when POX came in they zeroed in on some bad apples to get rid of.
        Never thought Alshon would be on that list, but maybe he’s not a baller, not the hungry type POX want to build around.

        • MB30SD

          we KNOW he’s not

        • Irish Sweetness

          I was surprised they felt strongly enough to let one of the top receivers in the league go so cheaply. So if there was a concern of some sort over Alshon …

    • Irish Sweetness

      Ah, interesting. Maybe he wasn’t always injured? They were trying to trade him before the deadline? I like it.

  • willbest

    Griffin is not a back up QB. He won’t step in and run the system Jay Cutler does. Plus there is enough tape on him that he likely won’t even surprise a D coordinator that will have to play him when Jay goes out with a hammy or a concussion.

    • I’m somewhat surprised Griffen bombed this badly in the NFL.

      He has some zip, and unlike Kap, some touch. He’s capable of making nfl throws, but somehow he lacks something. I get the impression that other football players don’t respect him, kinda like McNabb.

      • Trac

        He’s unteachable.

        • he comes off as humble-arrogant, if that makes any sense.

          But most QBs tend to be arrogant. Maybe he’s just dumb. He did come from a track background, maybe he just didn’t learn all the nuisances of what makes a great football player.

          • BearDown100393

            He pandered to Snyder. And the players lost their trust.

          • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

            Humble jag?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Penny didn’t drop for Cutty til his tenth year.

      • willbest

        He can make more and better throws than Kap, but he still takes off after his first read. And then he got hurt.

  • MB30SD
    • The GP, Chairman of the Bored

      I’ve never been to one of those manufacturer sponsored events

      Seems lame

  • willbest

    Chargers don’t want to be sloppy second to Walmart’s Rams. Looking to build a stadium in San Diego. Wonder if the Raiders will jump into that bed now that the Chargers are looking to pass.

    Hey Chargers, looks like there is an opening in St. Louis.

    • MB30SD

      fuck the chargers and that cunt spanos

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        just think how much more of a whiny ass bitch Rivers would be if he had to leave SD for the crap hole of STL

        • BearDown100393

          It would be awesome.

        • MB30SD

          I hope it happens. Couldn’t happen to a nicer guy. Smh

  • burntorangenavyblue

    To me, it seems like the whole Cryptkeeper funk is still affecting this team or something like that. I feel this weird vibe, a purgatory of sorts for many players and the uncertainty of where their head and hearts may be. I can only imagine that this funk is also affecting coaches too that are trying to put the fresh air in the building but it’s gonna take a lot of tomato juice and oatmeal baths to get rid of the skunk smell that just won’t go away at Soldier Field.

    I believe in Pace and Fox, but it’d be nice to see a more clearer picture of where this organization is headed. I’m feeling blah if you haven’t noticed, damn head cold.

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    No TV show ever made me cry like West Wing. Watching it again from start reminds me why I love this country & still believe in our politics.

    Dude. You believe in politicians who don’t give a crap about you … because of a TV show. Yes, it was a great TV show. ‘TV’.

    • Trac

      Baaa…baaa…baaa

      Charlie Sheen will do it to ya evra time…

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Yeah very disillusioned of Jeff. Our country’s political system is completely broken, and it will take a major shake-up to steer it back to how it was initially set up.

      1) Limited terms, FOR ALL ELECTED OR APPOINTED politicians in all branches. We are living longer and longer than in years past. People that were concerned about any one person being President for too long like a king did had the right idea, but legislature and justices hold just as much power and live just as long, and that’s not good.

      2) The amount of money that politicians blow through in their campaigns totalled is enough to probably solve many of the nation’s problems. There needs to be some stop gap on what is appropriate for money spent on campaign trails, it’s appalling.

      3) Voting needs to be easier and more than one day. Asinine to expect for as many people that we have living in the United States that only a fraction of the population turns out to vote on a WORK DAY! If voting is extremely important, then we need to take it more seriously to get better understanding of what the nation of citizens truly want from their politicians.

      • Trac

        Limited terms aren’t the problem. It’s the lifelong staffers that run the show. Watch the other hand my man.

        #shellgames

        • burntorangenavyblue

          It goes hand in hand….make politics be limited, it will limit the staffers that are around because basically they would have to keep looking for “jobs” in that realm

  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    On a football note, this will be my only Tweet about the Combine – an event I despise and quite frankly disgusts me.

    We’ll hold you to this, Jefe.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      If there were no combines, I would imagine that most draftees’ status going into camp would be a clusterfuck because of unknown medical issues or behavioral problems.

      Seriously Jeff, be real. The system is there to help protect everyone involved. Millions of dollars are at stake and no one wants to lose it either which way and no one is being forced to do this with a gun to their head.

      Until I see someone on the field that looks like Maximus in chains slaying lions and fellow gladiators, then slavery does not exist in the NFL.

  • The GP, Chairman of the Bored
  • Irish Sweetness

    I love this response to Schefter’s tweet though :

    age ‏@ajbomaye 1h1 hour ago

    @AdamSchefter is he listed as questionable for week one yet

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