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The Worst Team in Football

| September 26th, 2016

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There is no need for rapid fire reactions. No need to dissect the individual quarters, drives, plays, moments. The Bears were bad under Jay Cutler. They are unwatchable under Brian Hoyer. This is now solidly and without debate the worst team in the NFL.

The flashes of young talent we saw last night from White, Whitehair, Howard, Kwiatkoski, Amos…etc. are now all this season is about. The Bears must spend the next 13 games answering one question at every single position: do we have a winning player here?

At many positions, including some of the game’s most pivotal, the answer is no. Not even close. And through three weeks, that certainly goes for the head coach and both his coordinators as well.

The Bears aren’t a year away from contending. They’re a year away from being legitimate.

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  • DaMurph

    During the game I texted the same thing to MB, I think we are the worst team in the NFL! I think we win no more than 4 games. I cant believe we are this bad. We are bad in every phase of the game, well except for our punt returns which Eddie Royal makes the most exciting part of the game.

    • Scharfinator

      So how’s that draft class looking…? Can we pick up a franchise QB this year :D?

      • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

        Deshone Kizer or that Jackson guy would be sweet. It’s actually exciting to think we might suck bad enough to get one.

        • Jackson is not eligible for draft until 2018.

          And I want them to fix the trenches to build a good situation for a young QB before getting one to throw into the fire. Not fair to ask a young guy to cover all your flaws elsewhere. Build a good roster, then get the QB.

          Only exception is if you have a chance at a top guy you really like, but Bears haven’t been bad enough to do that (and likely won’t be this year, IMO).

          • Scharfinator

            I don’t think our OL will be bad by the end of the season – barring injuries. Let them have time to learn together.

          • They are a good RT away from being a good OL. If you reach a point where Leno is your worst starter, that’s a good OL.

            But they also have zero OT depth, so I’d ideally like to see 2 solid OTs added in the next 2 drafts. As in, one picked in the first 2 rounds and another in round 3 or 4.

          • Scharfinator

            Agreed, depth would be nice… That’s a bit of an NFL dilemma though.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Murph! Please don’t ever sext during a Bears game again, mmkay?

      • DaMurph

        We couldnt help it

    • Doc Nitty

      Problem with that is, we can’t force anybody to punt.

  • Viva

    Dave Toub for HC

  • Nah. When they’re missing half their D and their starting QB, then they’re probably the worst team in the NFL.

    When something resembling healthy, they played two good teams close for the first 6.75 quarters of the season. They’ll get healthy enough to win enough games and keep them from a super high draft pick.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      No we’e not. We are looking 4-12 and I can’t tell you how we’d win those 4 games.

      Dallas have a terrible defense and they were shutting us out in the first half. We made them look good, and they’re not good.

      Our healthy starters aren’t good enough to compete with other teams, never mind the roster we have now. A super high draft pick it is.

      • “our healthy roster aren’t good enough to compete with other teams.”

        The Texans were a playoff team last year and look like the class of their division again, yet the Bears led them for most of that game. The Eagles-who look like one of the best teams in the NFL right now-trailed Chicago for most of the 1st half and didn’t pull away until Cutler got hurt and the defense lost half their starters.

        They absolutely have the talent to compete with good teams. What they lack is the depth to compete through significant injuries.

        • BillW

          Well said, JWood!

        • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

          The Texans are shit Woodsy. They just got shutout by a team and it third string QB. The fact that we were hanging with them in that game proves they’re shit.

          Your last sentence is what a super bowl roster is, and I haven’t seen one of those in thirty years. We don’t have one. Pace is not the man to build it. He’s a child who hasn’t got the experience of a man who’s been around the game his whole mature life.

          • willbest

            Thursday games are weird. 3 days prep, and Oz who definitely look like he rolled the Texans for whatever his guarantee ends up being was playing bad for his standards. And Darth Hoodie nuetralized by Watt and Hopkins and dared the Texans to beat them with somebody else.

            And if you watch the AFCS games, they are still the team to beat there.

  • Big Mike

    Man, that was bad. So this is a season where we need to dig hard to find the good. If we’re truly writing it off, Long needs to go get surgery. Alshon, pretty smart move not getting locked in to this squad. There might be the opposite of a hometown discount to keep him. Jordan Howard, your table is ready. Langsford, thanks for playing. Fuller, jesus get on the damn field.

    Lot of guys out, but WTF we said that last year. How did we not get better?

    • Wasn’t Alshon’s choice to not get locked in. Bears simply didn’t offer the long-term $$ he wanted.

      • BearDown100393

        Alshon false started again last night. And then he smiled.

        • A7Xthebest

          Yeah what the hell was that?

        • EnderWiggin

          The false start on that play was called on Whitehair.

  • BearDown100393

    The Bears in regular season are coached, prepared, and execute plays more or less identically as to those meaningless preseason games. Save the disgust if you will. That sentiment should have been expressed back in August instead of lecturing upon its meaningless.

    13-3.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    It’s the worst team in the NFL. This team would lose to Cleveland. Therefore…

    We might beat the Lions. Once. I doubt it, but maybe. We will go 0-2 to both the Pack and Vikes.

    http://www.retroland.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/The-Bad-News-Bears.jpg

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears have not beaten the Lions since Dec 30 2012.

      We’re due.

      13-3

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Jeff –

    While I think Pacebot needs to terminate Fox, maybe you should have a poll. I am curious as to what the fans here think.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      Wow, Foxy? He won an extra challenge today. He’s not building the roster, that’s on Pace.

      Pace and Fangio, there’s the poll.

      Fangio is the failure for me. An OC can’t get anything out of a busted OL. Fangio was failing to produce when the defense was healthy – they’re mostly good players and he kept them on a chain. The Minnesota Vikings showed how you play defense against Cam Newton and a good OL. The Eagles showed us and the Steelers.

      PRESSURE.

      Vic Fangio has NO balls.

      • BearDown100393

        In a football game there are many moments for compassion and tender action on defense. There are many moments for ruthless action – what is often called ruthless – what may in many circumstances be only clarity, seeing clearly what there is to be done and doing it, directly, quickly, awake, looking at it.

      • BillW

        I share your disappointment with Fangio. I keep thinking he’s the defensive guru we needed, but results on the field certainly show otherwise so far.

        Injuries however ARE an excuse. Just not one players and coaches are “allowed” to acknowledge.

      • willbest

        Maybe, but to put pressure with those scrubs is to leave Dez and Cole wide open. We have no push on the d line without Goldman,

    • BearDown100393

      Next up: Mike Shanahan. He loves Jay.

    • BearDown100393

      Terminate with extreme prejudice.

  • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

    I agree wholeheartedly Jeff.

    Reading through the last thread, there were a couple of surprising suggestions.

    1. That we could win some games this season.

    2. That Brian Hoyer is capable of anything.

    I came to Jeff’s conclusion after seeing that game, that we are indeed the worst team in football, and dissecting the game is pointless. Seeing a quarterback missing a wide-open receiver down the sideline is not new to us. Cutty has had trouble hitting those on the money. But seeing Hoyer throw the fkn thing out of bounds was astounding. All night he was missing those deep throws by miles. Cutty is a second tier QB when he has time to throw, Hoyer is just brutal. Better to start Barkley and give him the experience, he actually looks like a QB.

    Kevin White looked bad too. No hands. Can’t teach hands.

    Losing Langford and Carey? I hope they’re on the phone to Perry. We actually looked like we could run the ball when Howard was on.

    But wow, that was a pile of horse shit.

    At least we’ll get first shot at a QB in the draft, but with Ryan Pace calling it ….. he’ll probably trade down and try and fix everything in that draft.

    • BearDown100393

      Kevin White had one outstanding completion that was highlight reel stuff.

      • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

        He did. That is true. One out of ho many targets this season? Blind squirrels and all that.

        He also had a game-changer go through his hands near the end. Did he drop four passes?

        • BearDown100393

          I’m looking for the positive this morning regarding Kevin White.

          • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

            I’m normally there to provide such after a tough loss. Receivers you give 2-33 years to get their technique and savvy down. But this kid is just flat dropping balls.

          • willbest

            The goal is for him to be DT. DT took a while to be DT.

  • chitownproud85

    Hoyer – “We need to execute better”

    lol.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      We need to execute Brian Hoyer. I’ve never seen somebody strip-sack himself in a game before.

      • chitownproud85

        Butt fumble level.

      • BearDown100393

        He’s out there operating without any decent restraint, totally beyond
        the pale of any acceptable human conduct. And he is still in the field
        commanding the offense.

      • Johnnywad

        I really liked when our long snapper just nonchalantly reaches back between his legs, after he’s set, and taps his buddy on the leg. “Dude. Move just a bit?” False starts himself.

      • SC Dave

        You havent watched much football, have you?

  • BillW

    I can’t help but shake my head at the pessimism here. And to think I was nicknamed Eeyore because I saw the Bears were failing under Trestman year one.

    I attribute it to the false expectations of ridding ourselves of Emery and Trestman and automatically thinking that alone was “the answer”.

    It’s a bad team, no doubt. But Pace decided to blow it all up. Peanut, Forte, Marshall, Bennett, Slauson(??). He has a plan – but the plan isn’t working. But it’s a plan. I think too many projects at high draft choices. Hit and miss – but a lot of GMs have that. The bears have a smaller margin for error – and the injuries add to that exponentially.

    Now we see how he adjusts. He has a reputation to think of and I do believe he’s smart enough to know what he has, doesn’t have, what worked, what didn’t etc.

    I can’t believe I turned into the voice of optimism here. There was some real football there last night. Just not nearly enough. And a successful onsides kick (called back for a VERY iffy call) gets lost in the rubble.

    I predict we go 4-4 in the second half once we get people back and the OL learns to work together. I only hope in the draft next year Pace stays away from “high upside” guys like Floyd and Grasu and just gets solid if not potentially flashy players.

    • BearDown100393

      Hey, man, you don’t talk to Pacel. You listen to him. The man’s enlarged my mind. He’s a poet warrior in the classic sense. I mean sometimes he’ll… uh… well, you’ll say “hello” to him, right? And he’ll just walk right by you. He won’t even notice you. And suddenly he’ll grab you, and he’ll throw you in a corner, and he’ll say, “Do you know that ‘if’ is the middle word in life? If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you”… I mean I’m… no, I can’t… I’m a little man, I’m a little man, he’s… he’s a great man! I should
      have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas…

      • BillW

        That was very inspiring for a Monday morning.

        • BearDown100393

          What are they going to say about Pace? What? Are they going to say he was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? Bullsh*t, man!

          • BillW

            Well, I’m keeping my torch and pitchfork in the closet for now. I’m willing to give him one more offseason. A lot of decisions to be made.

            One of the many is what to do with Fox. We’re in the Trestman year 2 dilemma again. How do we entice a good OC candidate to come here for Fox year 3 when it’s not at all clear there will be a Fox year 4 (or 5 or 6 etc). It would almost have to be a succession plan. Naming Fangio as HC-apparent. Or the new OC as an HC candidate.

            A lot if potential issues there. I wonder how successful teams do this. I guess it starts with having a long term HC in place – and the Bears seem to get that wrong with regularity.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        It’s impossible to read that in anything but Dennis Hoppers voice

        • CanadaBear

    • willbest

      Kelly destroyed the Eagles roster and they managed to flawlessly execute their off season to be competitive 8 months later.

      Because that is football. And this team has regressed from last year to be worse than 2014.

      • BillW

        I’m not saying Pace is the answer. I’m saying we don’t know yet. What’s happening with the Eagles does make the Bears (and probably 10 other teams) look inept by comparison.

        But it’s only 3 games in for them too. Let’s not crown their asses yet (RIP, Denny!)

        And of course the Bears regressed. They intentionally gave up pro-Bowl level players to play the guys they want to count on longer term. And injuries at the level they have them exposed what every rebuilding team has – crap backups.

        I’m not surprised we look the way we do.

      • BearDown100393

        The genius! The will to do that! Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we,
        because they could stand that these were not monsters, these were men… trained cadres.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      Why is Grasu on the hit-list? You think there’s a single human being at Halas Halas who thinks Cody Whitehair is the answer at center? Grasu was the answer. He’s our center. Whitehair is a tckle, drafted to pay guard, who’s playing Center. You couldn’t make this shit up.

      • willbest

        Well you could, but nobody would believe you.

      • BillW

        Grasu only because he was clearly undersized. A project. High upside, that might turn out great but might not. And he got hurt after bulking up. Maybe be completely unrelated. May not be. Again, uncertainty until we see him play.

  • wreckinball

    They are winning me money in my pool since they don’t cover. That will change though since Vegas does correct these things.

  • For those on here last night arguing Hoyer played well, I counter with this.

    After 3 quarters, the score was 31-10 and the game was over. In that timespan, Hoyer was 17/27 for 124 yards. That’s 4.6 yards per attempt, which is a good mark for a RB but atrocious for a QB.

    And the offense as a whole ran 40 plays for 182 yards and 10 1st downs in the first 3 quarters. Absolutely terrible.

    So don’t tell me his 4th quarter garbage time production matters. The offense was utterly inept under Hoyer, and that’s against a defense with no pass rush.

    • willbest

      Thank you. I felt like I was in the twilight zone being labeled an cutler apologist for not sucking hoyer’s cock.

      • Big Mike

        doesn’t matter. Jay doesn’t win last night’s game either. Unless he audibles out of the shit calls and plays cornerback.

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    • BerwynBomber

      Fair enough (and I agree), but I also can’t count the # of times Jay’s padded his stats in garbage time either.

      #Happens

      • willbest

        He really hasn’t under Fox though. They were competitive in all but 4 games last year, and he certainly didn’t pad his states the first two games this year. The offense stopped working in the 2nd half of each games. But Hoyer has the benefit of not 1 4Q garbage time on his resume this year but 2.

        • BerwynBomber

          You need to take up the Cutler is better than Hoyer argument with someone else. I’m not in disagreement with you.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      Here we can agree Woodsy. Last week some were saying he was good because he completed 9 passes in a row …against a prevent defense .. .completing every pass underneath.

      In fact, I hope Hoyer stays in there. We’re likely to win a game with Barkley under Center.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Wow. Last night was a train-wreck. If Virginia McCaskey was pissed off before…well I can see her taking a flamethrower to Halas Hall after this season.

    Watching Fox on the side-lines, the look on his face was like…”jeez..how to I get outta here.”
    I’m still looking back to the first half vs. the Texans. The Bears were looking good, amazing how a series of injuries can just disable a team.

    Long, long season ahead. BEAR DOWN.

  • BillW

    I’ve often said the dirty little secret in the NFL is that any given year few teams have a legitimate chance of winning the SB because it seems to require either a great QB or an historic defense. And there are only a handful of great QBs – nowhere near enough to go around for 20 teams much less 32.

    But the performance of several inexperienced QBs in this young season makes me think the problem is not the QBs but the coaching.

    There are not enough really good HC/OC/QB coaches to go around. That may be the real issue. A lot of failed QBs may have been successful with the right coaching.

    The Patriots are an extreme example, but what the QBs in Philly and Dallas are doing makes you wonder. And it’s not just that they are playing the Bears – it’s that they look poised and confident from the very first snap.

    • willbest

      Jay basically proves this. Since his success and failures through the year have been in large part linked to his OC. Yes he is below average at reading defenses, and average at seeing the field, and he trusts his arm too much, and you can see that in every season, but each year you can see the effect the OC had on him with 2014 being something of an outlier but there was massive amounts of locker room dysfunction that year.

  • BillW

    Did you guys see the Winnie the Pooh tweet from the Bears official account? Jeff has a link to it.

    I really don’t know what to make of it. Seems very derogatory though perhaps not intended that way. Anyway, what does it say when the Bears official account shows it all to be hopeless?

    Won’t be surprised to learn eventually the person responsible is “reassigned”. Then again, it was probably one of the many McCaskey grandchildren so maybe not.

    I’m sure one of the grandkids does their website. It has very confusing and almost arbitrary navigation.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Your name was Eeyore not because you were perpetually down on the team but on yourself. Just to clarify

      • BillW

        Thanks for noticing me!

        Honestly, I never caught that. Explains a lot. I do appreciate the clarification.

    • chitownproud85

      That was fucking nuts. Maybe the person running the “social media” part of the operation isnt under the same “YOU MUST BE SERIOUS AND PROFESSIONAL AND YADFASDFKLISDAJFLKSDAJF” as the rest of the group? I could totally see someone losing a job over that though. I thought it was equal parts hilarious and honest, and I think the person deserves a raise. Anyone thats associated with that organization is probably thoroughly embarrassed.

      • BillW

        I didn’t wee it until scrolling through Jeff’s tweets this morning, but I thought it was something Haugh or Rosey would have done.

      • BearDown100393

        I remember… I… I… I cried, I wept like some grandmother. I wanted
        to tear my teeth out; I didn’t know what I wanted to do! And I want to
        remember it. I never want to forget it… I never want to forget.

    • BearDown100393

      The horror… the horror…

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    I wish I could recall Knute Rockne but this is all I got:

    We’re still in the 1st quarter of the season boys. It takes 4 quarters to win a game of football. The season is 16 games long. There’s plenty of football left to play. Jay is our quarterback.

    • chitownproud85

      Bears are beating the Lions at home. Fuck this shit.

      • Big Mike

        Bears aren’t beating anybody, anywhere until they get some guys back. Kyle Fuller could have grown a fucking new leg by now.

        • willbest

          Yeah what the hell did he do to it?

          • Big Mike

            I’m sure there was an offer on the table from the bears

            Sent from Gmail on my iPhone

        • chitownproud85

          Nah. We’ll get it done, Mike. How? Fuck if I know, but its happening. Bears man. The season is too long…mentally throwing in the towel already…another offseason…I cant do it yet. I have to think they can win.

          • Big Mike

            2nd half of the season, Bears go 5-3 after a 2-6 start. That’s what I see. I always saw this team having a better 2nd half than 1st. But I was thinking 4-4 and 6-2. The injuries, last minute shuffling of the line, all f’d us.

        • WP34

          thanks for the good laugh.

          • Big Mike

            bout all we can do.. at this point. Gut out the first half of season and hope the returning injured guys make the team better. It’s clear that the OC is over his head. Fangio, I’m surprised at.

      • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

        How?

        • willbest

          Lions getting all Lionny.

        • chitownproud85

          Because we deserve some happiness, goddamnit.

  • BerwynBomber

    At what point do we shut down Long (if we are working under the assumption he is playing with a torn labrum)?

    Hoyer was Hoyer. The biggest disappointment last night was our D, which played reasonably well the first two games, couldn’t get off the field in the first half. Yeah, I know: injuries. But you give up 200 yards rushing to any team you will have hard time winning. Even if your QB is Sid Luckman.

    P.S. I do think McPhee’s return will make a big difference. He was a true disrupter last year.

    • Big Mike

      McPhee, Goldman, Fuller, Trevathan. Our best DL, ILB,OLB and CB were missing. Would it have matter? I think so. That’s why they were starting over the guys who played.

      • BerwynBomber

        Best CB is debatable, but yeah, I hear you. And missing Jay too. That’s why I don’t think we are the worst team in football.

        • Big Mike

          Cutler/Hoyer is not the issue. Don’t get me wrong, Cutler’s better. But putting the starting 11 on defense, I think they are competitive.

          Think of this way, would you rather have Cutler back, or the full starting defense. My money is strongly on the starting defense.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. I’m a long-time Cutler skeptic. He’s obviously better than Hoyer but comparatively speaking (against other starters in the NFL) he is increasing your win rate very little, if at all. He may even be a net negative. Just much better than Hoyer.

          • chitownproud85

            Yeap. This all day Mike

          • Big Mike

            Sad that we are at this point three weeks in. It’s not even about 0-3. Had we been competitive, I’d be pissed, but ready to take on the next week. Now it’s just like, well shit..maybe we can get lucky.

      • willbest

        I know they rehab as much as they can but none of those guys are going to be in football shape until about week 10 at this point.

        • Big Mike

          maybe a bit sooner, but I get your point. I just posted that I always saw this team being better in the 2nd half. The injuries have amplified that. 2-6, then 5-3.

      • SC Dave

        Our best ILB played last night and had a solid game.

        • Big Mike

          Freeman is a ray of sunshine. I love that guy. I should have put “arguably” in front of my comment. Point is we’re missing quality starters at all levels of the defense.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      They gave up 200 yards to the very best OL in the league and a possible HOF RB. He might get 300 in a game this season.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      No point in stating Long if he’s hurt, I mean, why would we?

      • willbest

        Because we want him to start next year on the PUP while he rehabs. We like it when our best players do that. Keeps them fresh.

    • Johnnywad

      You’re more convinced than I am that McPhee will resemble his old self. That knee situation is a strange one

  • willbest

    Going to disagree with Jeff though.
    Offensive injuries – cutler out, Long gimped, Massie brain dead, Jeffery banged up (I didn’t mention Langford because Howard needed to start anyway so that is a positive development).
    Defensive injuries – Eddie, Nanny, Houston, Fuller, Danny, Bryce, whoever starts next to Amos, Bullard. Unrein banged up. We literally have a giant hole that starts at the football and extends all the way to the endzone.

    Bears are going to be dressing 38 people next Sunday.

    • Scharfinator

      Yeah, Howard… at least from the highlights, seems to be alright.

      • BillW

        I hate to be the one to say this, but take away the 36 yard run and he was nothing special.

        I hate to say it because you can’t take away the 36 yard run, and that’s how 5 ypc backs average that high – a few long runs sprinkled in.

        Certainly reason to see more of him.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Some of it, for certain, is the raft of injuries.

    Some of it is underperforming personnel, especially high draft choices.

    Some of it falls on the coaches.

    Call them reasons or call them excuses but when you add it all up you DO get

    “The Worst Team In Football.”

  • AlbertInTucson

    I’m sure Pace has a plan.

    Does Fox have a plan? One has to begin to wonder.

    I’m sure Custer had a plan.

    Crazy Horse had a plan, too.

    Seems like every week, our guys are Custer and the other guys are Crazy Horse.

    • BerwynBomber

      My theory? Pace does. The problem? What we are seeing is the Phillips/Acorsi plan.

    • CanadaBear

      It’s like Mike Tyson’s famous quote, “Everyone has a plan until you get hit.”

      • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

        “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

        But yeah, exactly.

  • CanadaBear

    And you guys got on my ass for being Debbie Downer in PS! We all got excited about Hicks and he seems like JAG. Unrein is great as a goal line blocker, not so great at DE. Bullard hasn’t shown anything. Christian (10 yds down the field) Jones was playing last night (ugh). Other than Freeman, I don’t think anyone on the D had a good night. The offense is hideous. The OL sucks and they are crazy if they keep running Long out there. You just know something worse will happen to him and it will compromise him going forward. White sucks so bad people got excited about him last night when in reality he sucked again. Is Floyd in the witness protection plan? I’m just getting warmed up. FUCK!

    • AlbertInTucson

      Apparently, they do not sell Kool-Aid in Canada.

      • CanadaBear

        Sugar-free only! I just don’t see anything positive coming from this group. Even with good luck on the injury front this team would have been lucky to go .500. After getting beat up so bad, throw in a HC that is retired in place and add an OC that makes Pep Hamilton look like a genius, I have no hope. Still gonna watch when I can!

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Sugar Free”.

          Apparenty, “Hallucinogen Free” too.

    • willbest

      Amos delivered some amazing hits last night. Glenn had an uneven performance, if we could teach him to turn his head he might be a solid CB2 or who knows maybe he might turn it on like Norman who took a bit to develop.

      • BerwynBomber

        Glenn could but he does not have Norman’s natural length. But point taken. There is a little hope there.

        • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

          He’s a good press corner. Made some great plays since he got here and he shut down Josh Norman in pre-season remember.

          D-Line is hte beginning and end of our problems there. We lose everything at the point of attack.

      • CanadaBear

        The thing with Amos and HJQ, when they bring the wood they are just as likely to hurt themselves as the opponent. I loved that shot HJQ put on Prescott when he was trying to sneak for a first down but he knocked himself out a little later.

        • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

          See S’ua Cravens clean that guy’s clock? Would have loved to have seen us try him out at SS. HJ and Amos are all right, but there’ll never be a Terminator in the middle of the field with those two.

          How’s George Iloka doing by the way, anyone know?

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Maybe Trump and Hillary will drink Arnold Palmers instead of water on the podium. As a respect thing.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Respect is a foreign word to Hillary.

      • CanadaBear

        And Trump has so much respect for everyone not named Donald J, Trump.

        • willbest

          Kim K jumped off the Hillary bandwagon. If you can’t trust that ass who can you trust.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Wherever she jumped, it’s gonna leave a mark.

          • willbest

            Nah it will be a soft landing with that kind of cushioning.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I don’t understand how people can just choose to ignore her well-documented, blatant corruption and abuse of power.

          • CanadaBear

            You were referring to respect in your comment. Not this other stuff.

          • AlbertInTucson

            So what?

            The fact that she is morally and ethically corrupt demonstrates she has no respect for anything.

      • MB30SD

        Trump thinks foreign means the caymans?

    • Bears-4-Ever

      I think I’ll have to drink several Spiked Arnold Palmers to even watch the debate…

      • willbest

        Probably going to take SC Daves football advice on this one and watch with the sound off.

    • willbest

      I am watching my girl do her tumbling class right now and I am thinking instead of a debate I think they should run the same course she is doing.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      R.I.P Arnie.

      The last great one of that era.

  • wreckinball

    I’m thinking line will still be under 10 next week. If it is I’m going for the trifecta with the Kittens. My wallet has been liking the Bears

    • wreckinball

      Heck its 2 right now! Bet the house

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Ring…ring…ring…ring…ring…ring…ring…

    Fox: Hello, who the hell is this?

    Pace: Hi John, sorry to bother you this is Ryan Pace…

    Fox: Yeah, well what the hell do you want?

    Pace: I know you said you were done coaching when I ran into you the other day but boy do I have a deal for you.

    Fox: Well…what is it?

    Pace: The Bears want to hire me but there’s a catch. I have to find a coach that’s willing to keep Jay Cutler before they’ll hire me because they’re going to let me do a total rebuild as long as Jay gets to stay.

    Fox: Why the hell would I want to deal with all those headaches?

    Pace: Oh I don’t know but I’ve got about 20 million reasons why you should come to Chicago.

    Fox: I’ll be there Monday.

    And that’s how it’s done in the NFL boys.

    • except Cutler was not conditional on his hiring. In fact, all the rumors were that they tried hard to get him as part of moving up for Mariota. They stopped trying to get rid of him after they worked with him for a year and realized he’s better than the media suggests, both in performance and character.

      Which is not to say they’ll keep him forever. But Fox prefers vets at QB, so I don’t see him wanting to start a rookie next year.

      • willbest

        Also, I am not convinced it would have been worth it to get Marcus Mariota unless the deal was straight up our #7 and Cutler for their #2, because he looks like he has regressed this year which makes less sense with an upgrade in their running game.

        • Their offensive scheme is terrible. They’re trying to run a 1950s wing T offense in 2016 NFL.

          From everything I hear from people smarter than me about football and who actually have time to watch/analyze all the games, he’s playing well when he’s allowed to play modern football.

          But who knows if he pans out. I’m just saying that, by all accounts, Pace tried to move Cutler and acquire Mariota his 1st offseason. So keeping Cutler was clearly not conditional on his (or Fox’s) hiring.

          But by all accounts they made no moves to replace Cutler this offseason. They obviously liked what he showed last year.

          Though it’s fair to say that he’s 33, has a long injury history, and takes a ton of shots. He won’t be here forever. I’m fine with them replacing him, just so long as they make moves to actually put a young QB in a good situation (which was how they failed when acquiring Cutler).

      • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

        Fox´s butt is starting inching. unless he wants to couch here next year, he´ll have to figure it how to bounce back

  • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

    Premise: The season is over, due to (a) injuries (b) a poor roster.

    The forgotten man after the Debacle in Dellas is our Cutty. If we’re in rebuild mode, and we’ve got him though 2017 at least, and we’re drafting in the top three next year … see where this is going?

    I like Cutty. He’s okay. Looks as good as any of them sometimes when he plants his foot and extends a laser downfield between coverage and into the moneybasket. He’s got tools. Some. But suppose we have a high draft pick and nab one of those athletic, mobile, dangerous QBs that can throw the ball well and fuck you up on the ground. I haven’t seen this Jackson kid play, I will now, but either of those boys down in Notre Dame could be special. I watched the series on them and they’re good kids.

    But wouldn’t it be nice to be drafting again in the first round (after drafting your boy at #2, get that top tackle? Wouldn’t it be nice to get the best tackle available in the second, too?

    I like Cutty. But we’re not turning into a playoff team for a couple of years yet. That doesn’t happen overnight. That’s after you’ve earned a 10-6 and now you just need to wipe the shit off. We’re buried under krpytonite right now. We have maybe three fifths of an OL when they’re healthy. Two entirely new people must be found to play tackle (I would try Whitehair at the position he played in college – crazy idea, right?). That’s two (one must be a stud). The defensive line needs at least two new studs. We’ve got Hicks, Eddie, that’s it. Terry Williams and Senorise Perry should already be signed.

    Four studs. Another running back by the looks of it. On the old Irish adage that they’re ten-a-penny, we’ll find one on the cheap, chicago-style.

    MB needs his safety, also a stud. A super bowl defense has a safety. Five.

    I stand all alone in liking our backup corners it seems. I’d have Glenn and Hall starting, with Porter as a nickel. Fuller in Dime. There’s likely another surprise on the bench. No need for drafting.

    Five studs. after you’ve used your first pick to draft the stallion that mounted the world.

    Maybe you could pull that off in two drafts IF you knew the difference between a hole in the ground and your own arsehole …… but Ryan Pace is still figuring out which one is which.

    Cutty is 34 next year. Do we need him around while we’re still building the house around him?

    He’s worth something now. Tell me Cleveland wouldn’t part with their horde of picks for a guy like Cutty. But has Pace got the balls to do it?

    • willbest

      Cutler meets that min. threshold for “we don’t give up on this season”.
      Hoyer says “we give up but we are going to do it cheaply, and be boring
      about it.” None of it matters with a crap OC and nobody to develop a QB. Bears could have had Dak. Dak wouldn’t be playing like Dak if he were a Bear.

      Glenn might have something. to be determined, they seem to coach them to not turn their heads. We are losing anyway, play them more.

      Hicks is a JAG. Goldman gets hurt but he is a B+ player when healthy.

      So you are grading studs on a curve. Your boy Meredith shit the bed yesterday.

      • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

        No he didn’t. He got cleaned for a turnover, yes. He was free, man-beaten in arrears, down the sideline for an easy touchdown. Hoyer missed so badly, that it went out of bounds. He didn’t get many targets. He’s a good receiver and deserves to be above White.

        • willbest

          White showed enough improvement on speed that he now deserves to be over Meredith. And he was open on a number of plays where he wasn’t thrown to. And yeah he has a hands problem but so does Meredith.

      • Big Mike

        Offensive Line. I repeat, Offensive line. Glen is a find.

        • willbest

          Do you think it is as bad as the pre-2013 lines? I mean Cutler has lost a bit of athleticism but he can still make up for some crummy O-line play, but the OC doesn’t seem the least bit interested in helping out any QB back there.

          • Big Mike

            Not at all. But it takes 5 studs to make it a great O-line. If you have a great o-line. It doesn’t matter who your QB, he’ll perform at an above average level. Your backs will be better, your receivers will be better. We’ve got 2 studs, Whitehair is a stud in training. The other 2, not so much. Grasu is nice depth, but a wasted pick at this point. You could go all in at LT, move Long to RT and Grasu to RG.

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      Forgot, (3)Bad Couching

    • TBC

      Cleveland is the last team that would trade for Cutler. For all of the reasons you listed as rationale for the Bears getting ride of him.

    • Big Mike

      Whitehair should not be moved outside of the interior. Amos is a stud, we need another. I don’t give a shit about QBs until we get the other pieces right. I’d draft 7 offensive tackles. Go to FA for the rest. I’m serious. See Dallas Cowboys. That QB’s not that great. Their offensive line however makes me drool. Those guys are impressive.

      • A7Xthebest

        Everyone talking about his “Poise” when he consistently is getting 6 seconds to throw lmao.

    • wreckinball

      Cleveland isn’t going to change QB’s. RG III will be it at least through next year and if they keep McCown as backup they are good.
      Bears will have to draft a QB and maybe keep Cutler around.

  • Huge Bears Penis

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  • Doc Nitty

    Strange – A cure for what ails ya.

    Man today is a good day. Did the bears even play yesterday? I feel like I’m on opiates right now.

  • Big Mike

    So I don’t know how many of you are on FB, but this is funny and is one of the few bright spots on our team.

    https://www.facebook.com/realnflnewsandupdates/videos/1864955773725870/

  • AlbertInTucson

    New thread.

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