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The Rebuilding Dilemma: Coach & Quarterback

| September 26th, 2016

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Ask yourself two questions when evaluating the current state of the Chicago Bears “rebuild”.

Question #1. Are you confident in John Fox’s ability to oversee the development of young talent and take this team deep into the postseason?

Question #2. Who will the Bears quarterback be in September in 2017?

Adrian Amos can play. Eddie Goldman can too. The Bears have two terrific guards, a developing center and reason for hope when it comes to Howard, White and some other scattered young players.  But as much as we spend time discussing the importance of protecting and rushing the quarterback, sustained success in this sport still comes down to three principle elements: player acquisition, coach and quarterback.

How can your answer to Questions #1 be yes? John Fox is 6-13 as Bears head coach and has been significantly out-coached by Bill O’Brien, Doug Pederson and Jason Garrett. Sure the Bears are battling injuries but this team lacks fight. It lacks character. And, crazy for a Fox team, it lacks toughness.

How can your answer to Question #2 be rendered with any certainty? Cutler is still clearly the best option for the Bears but he’s never on the field anymore. And with his resume, the Bears won’t be breaking the bank for his services moving forward if another option presents itself on draft weekend.

This is the fundamental issue with discussing the rebuild. The Bears can build a ferocious offensive line but where’s that offensive line gotten the Dallas Cowboys in recent years? The Bears can build the best defensive line on earth but ask the Jets about theirs when Ryan Fitzpatrick is throwing the ball to the other team. No, the Bears are currently unsettled at the two spots in their organization they can least afford to be.

Could those questions be answered as the season progresses? Sure. John Fox could rally his wounded army, show some fight and win a bunch of games. Jay Cutler could return to full strength and turn the offense into a juggernaut. But if those two things don’t occur – and the likelihood is they won’t – where does that leave the organization come January?

Coach. Quarterback. Until those questions are answered, the rest of the roster’s development is just noise.

 

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  • Bears-4-Ever

    #1. No.

    #2 Jay Cutler.

    • willbest

      Going to second this. There are only two ways I think the Cutler is not the QB of the Bears next year

      1) A healthy Cutler shits the bed. This could happen, but it is unlikely.

      2) Bears end up with a #1-2 draft pick, and Pace goes into George’s office with Teddy present to lay out his plan for his Franchise QB, and the HC he wants to groom that QB, and sells them on paying Fox to watch TV for the next two years. Pace is going to get his 2nd coach. Nobody can fault him for Fox, it was probably even required by the McCaskeys. Unlike Trestman vs. Arians there is no outsmarting yourself into a shit situation. What is going to get Pace fired is the lack of pro-bowlers he has drafted. But that won’t become an issue until the end of year 4 when he is trying to negotiation his extension.

  • First to say, #1 overall pick!

    1st rounder for Cuttty.

    Hoyer bridge QB

    • Also, all new coaching staff.
      I guess we can keep Pace

      This roster is under-performing. That’s not GM. That’s coaching.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Maybe.

        But White and Floyd are showing all that have to show and Pace is actually 0 for 2 with 1st round picks?

        • I absolutely didn’t like Floyd.
          And ditto Grasu.

          But all the other ones are at least understandable.

          Also, unlike coaches, there’s no “consensus” top GM with a sterling record to be hired.

          Pace was supposed to be that guy.

          So we’re gonna gamble on another with even less experience? (Or worse, a retread?)

          Also, I have refrained this before, but the coaching staff has MAJOR input in drafting.

          Better coaches, better scouting, better players, better team.

          • willbest

            I don’t mind Grasu, third rounders going to be third rounders.

          • Russell Wilson was a 3rd rounder.

            Can’t just waste them. Fuck, I’d rather them have drafted a K over Grasu.

          • willbest

            Okay and how many undersized 3rd round QB’s pan out? You gamble on high ceiling low floor guys in the 3rd round.

          • My point is, if a GM wastes them on Grasu/Rodriguez types (who IMO were neither high ceiling just low floor) then you decrease your already slim chance of finding Wilson types.

            That’s a fact

          • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

            But a pick hasn’t been wasted on Grasu, he got injured. He might be our Center for the next ten years.Nobody knows. He had the skillz, he needed to get bigger, and now he’s 310. Wait and see.

          • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

            Specifically, why?

          • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

            How many centers are drafted in the first round?

          • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

            Floyd saved a TD against Dallas. Give him time, he’s played three games.

            Nobody has seen the new-improved, stockier Grasu.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Nobody’s forking over a #1 for Jay.

      • DaMurph

        I never thought Philly would get what they got for Bradford. I single first if the team is thinking Super Bowl NOW, they just might, maybe.

      • willbest

        Depends on the #1. Maybe its the Cards, wheels looking like they fell of Palmer.

        • SC Dave

          Why would they think Cutler is good enough to take them over the hump?

        • AlbertInTucson

          One of the earlier picks seemed to be all on David Johnson running the wrong route on a timing pattern.

          The last 2 were forced but, they pretty much HAD to be because of the score and the clock situation.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Regardless, NOBODY is offering a 1st rounder for Cutty.

          • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

            He scored 3 FF points Al.

      • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

        A number of teams would have recently.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Pure conjecture/speculation/wishful thinking.

          Didn’t happen.

          Not gonna happen.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      Hoyer would guarantee us another 2-14 season, so I’m good with that.

  • Scharfinator
  • Bears-4-Ever

    Jay will be given the opportunity to mentor whomever we may draft as our new young QB. We need him to do that and I think he can and will do it.

    • Do we WANT Cutler mentoring a young QB?
      And will he be willing to?

      I lean towards no in both cases.

      Time to move on. I never hated Cutler, but like when letting go of Olin, Lach and Peanut, time for a new chapter.

      • MB30SD

        Agree

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Eye believe your sentence is incomplete Sir.

      • Big Mike

        Cutler is an excellent student of the game.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        I lean forward, make eye contact..pause..and say “hell no!”

      • BerwynBomber

        To me it is less about Cutty mentoring (hell, he might be decent at it), and more about the Cutler fan base/apologists, which will invariably create a QB controversy.

        Moreover, do teams ever keep 8 year starters around to become second-string mentors? I would think it would be rare.

        • Scharfinator

          Yeah, he will want too much. Also next year isn’t guaranteed but if he was on the roster, wouldn’t we pay him a shit ton?

          • BerwynBomber

            His contract is actually about market value now. In short, he’s an average starter and he is getting average starter money, largely because the QB contract market has not slowed down since he signed. His guaranteed money was still more than Rodgers’s, though, which is kind of a lark.

            But if we go the cheap bridge/high draft pick route I would suggest Mike Glennon in the former role. And yes, he would save us a lot more in comparison to Cutler. We could probably pick up an extra starter or two with the saved dough.

          • willbest

            Its below average. Average QBs make 17-18 million Cutler will make $15 million next year if he is on the active roster every game and Less $160k ish for every game he is inactive.

        • It would be the Bradford debacle all over again when Bradford is awkwardly waiting to be replaced by the new QB.

          I just don’t see Cutler accepting that role.

          • willbest

            You don’t draft Wentz to sit behind Cutler. You draft Dak or Jimmy G. But you have to have the Fing coach to train him up or it won’t matter if he gets a year behind a pro QB like Cutler or just gets thrown to the wolves.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          create QB controversy? That happens every time Jay gets injured, unfortunately the QBs that play while injured aren’t any good. If Bears draft a QB and he truly beats out Cutty and performs throughout the season, I am pretty sure that most ‘apologists’ will accept it.

          • willbest

            Pretty much. You don’t like Cutler fine. Who do you propose that has a chance at being better than him. And when they response with “Not my job”, they sound like Fing retards to me.

  • TBC

    Let me be the first to say:

    May the Cutler era never end!

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Here’s what is weird: in the 1st half (I didn’t bother watching the 2nd half) they cut to Ginny up in the booth. She looked awake. She was leaning forward and had an unpleasant look on her face. It’s hard to tell if that’s just how she always looks or she was frowning.

      She’s gotta know that she’s gonna die with the team being the worst team in football. She has to know that once she goes, the bits of ownership she spread to every greedy fucking grandkid are being bought up by the AON guy who almost has the team.

      And that she goes out not just a loser, not just allowing Teddy Ballgame to grossly mismanage this business – but she goes to her dirt nap having effectively fucked her grandkids out of millions and millions of dollars they might have received if the team was seen as a winning franchise.

      In an era of MOAR QE where prices for things are going up, the Bears keep slipping down the ladder of teams in net worth. Because the product is shit.

      I wonder if it even bothers her.

      • willbest

        Bears are ranked 8th with a valuation around 2.7 billion, not far behind. In fact, the estimated cash flow for the Bears is quite good, so despite the fact their product is shit, the big media market makes a big difference. Now obviously if they produced a string of winning seasons, things would be better but probably not that much. #3 on the list is the NYG with a 3.1 billion valuation.

        Bears also have a lot of untapped potential. Their lease on SF runs through 2033, but they only owe about $92 million dollars on it. They could probably break the lease now with a $66-70 million buyout, in 5 years that is going to be less than $50 million. Not exactly chump change, but its not going to stop you from building a new pleasure palace down I-90 if you are the new owner.

        • Freddy G.P. Soft

          I said millions not billions.

          .4 billion is 400 million. The fact the Chicago Bears are behind the Rams and Jets and about equal to the Texans is fairly insane. The Rams? The team that one had it’s owner demand to fuck Vince Ferragamo?

          (That’s a true story. Georgia Frontiere told Ferragamo if he wanted a new deal with the Rams, he had to fuck her.)

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            There had to have been some serious pain at the offering plate if that is true.

          • CanadaBear

            Did he get intercepted?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Did her husband pass under curious circumstances?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Mount Rushmore of NFL Coaches heard today:

    Paul Brown. Vince Lombardi. Bill Walsh. Bill Belichik.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Yeah, that’s correct.

    • AlbertInTucson

      No MY list, BTW.

      Those 4 are definitely worthy.

      Notable contenders: Halas, Shula, Noll.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Jauron, Wannstedt, Lovie, Trestman!!!!

      • AlbertInTucson

        That’s a “Mount Trashmore”.

        See above.

        • SC Dave

          Lovie should not be in that list. Gibron would be a far better choice.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Gibron was a complete disaster. That’s not even a close choice.

    • EnderWiggin

      Damn dude. You know you are missing a big one there, right?

      • EnderWiggin

        Never mind. I see your reply

    • BearDown100393

      No it is Tony Dungy all by himself. Just ask him.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        God told him.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That’s pronounced DUNG -ee.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Be careful. He might come out of retirement to save the Organization. Lovie on steroids.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      Bill Walsh over Shula? Nobody will ever beat Shula’s record.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    “The Bears can build the best defensive line on earth but ask the Jets about theirs when Ryan Fitzpatrick is throwing the ball to the other team.”

    Those interceptions were clearly not Fitzy’s fault, seriously someone that smart can’t throw that many interceptions(shout out to Irish). So here is my theory, the Jets have too many former Bears on the team. So clearly it was their fault. Marshall and Forte have clearly been using subliminal messaging, hypnosis, and brainwashing the entire week in order to honor the fact Cutler is out injured. All week Forte quietly dropped suggestive messages to Fitzy about interceptions and insinuated to the Oline they should not protect properly because Fitzy insulted there wives, while Marshall used a “crazy eye” hypnosis technique on the WRs to get them to run the wrong routes and drop passes.

    • MB30SD

      Their

    • Scharfinator

      Half ( at least) of those INT’s were tipped balls. Receivers have got to make plays too.

      • willbest

        No doubt. Usually a QB doesn’t get picked 5 times unless he is concussed without an assist from the receivers. Maybe Fitzy is so smart he can beat their concussion protocol while concussed.

    • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

      They get six interceptions but no sacks. Weird.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Mount Trashmore” of Bear Coaches.

    Gibron
    Armstrong
    Wannstedt
    Nessman

    • EnderWiggin

      Hopefully we wont have to TNT a new ‘bust’ in the mountain..

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Pardee

      • AlbertInTucson

        Not a bad choice.

        Pardee succeeded the Gibron 4-10 mess in 1975. Led the Bears to 4-10, 7-7 and 9-5 seasons and a playoff birth in 1977.

        He left in 1978 to take the Redskins job.

    • Doc Nitty

      Who’se the Mt Rushmore?

      Halas and Ditka obvioulsy, but who else? LDL? Jauron? Is it a two person Mt Rushmore?

      • AlbertInTucson

        No, not Jaurong.

        Lovie got them to a Super Bowl.

        I like Pardee as a choice, too. He seemed to have turned things around from the Gibron regime but then jumped to the Redskins.

        • Doc Nitty

          Agree on Jauron, though 2001 was a great year to be a fan. And he did bring us Mike Brown, Brian Urlacher, Olin (I think).

        • Doc Nitty

          I would also like to nominate Buddy Ryan for the Rushmore.

          • AlbertInTucson

            For the Bears “Rushmore”?

            I would not argue that.

            Good call.

      • SC Dave

        LDL would be there pretty clearly.

    • SC Dave

      I’d pick Dooley over Armstrong. Or is that under?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Tough call.

  • Hmmmm. I’m tempted to go on the Score for the same reason ppl slow down for car accidents.

    But naaaahhh.

    I can already hear the self-righteous indignant sarcastic sophomoric shtick in my head, so no need.

    Though I would like to hear what Zaidman and Hub and some other beat reporters have to say about it.

    • Couldn’t resist. Hub is on.

      Said he heard a lot that our “developmental” guy was indeed Shaw.

      And naturally, he fucking goes down.

      Also wanted Hundley from UCLA who I thought we would nab in the later rounds. Pack drafted him.

      Albino Lovie on now.

      • willbest

        Who is Albino Fox? Lovie?

      • BerwynBomber

        Our QB development guy is a 25 year old undrafted FA from the Browns?

        Hah, it’s so Bears.

        • Hub said there was real talk about Shaw as our #2 and rolling with 3QBs.

          Hub remarked that Shaw was the best of the QBs out of Cleveland last year. But, that’s not saying much.

          Either way, Shaw did show some accuracy and wheels to get out of tight jams.

          Against JV, sure, but he flashed like he was supposed to.

  • wreckinball

    No and who knows but I doubt its Cutler.
    They’ll sign a FA and draft a QB

  • BerwynBomber

    Fox should be Cutler’s last Bears HC. In the meantime, we should FINALLY draft a QB next May.

    How long Fox and Cutler last is TBD.

    • BearDown100393

      Connor Shaw

      • SC Dave

        I hated that injury in so many ways.

        • BearDown100393

          So do I. However I won’t rule him out.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    Step one. Show Dowell Loggains the door. The offensive play calling has been shit. No one can debate this

    Step Two. Hire Payton Manning and his giant mongoloid head to coordinate the O.

    Step Three. Championship!

    • willbest

      It would give him something to do on Sunday rather than sit on a park bench with old men or visiting the same dinner every day. Then again the CTE seems far enough along that he can’t remember his brother still plays football

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      If ever a situation is called for to fire an OC, the one the Bears now find themselves in is it. The problem is that there is NOBODY within the organization they could promote. It’s a real pisser.

      • willbest

        I was too quick to fire Birdcage. It does you know good right now. Its gotta be the game right before the bye week.

    • AlbertInTucson

      If the Bears were in the SEC, Loggains would have been history a week ago. maybe Fox, too.

    • Could you imagine Peyton trying to coach up Cutler?!

      That would be a reality show in itself.

      Cutler stroll into the QB room in his cargo shorts. Turns on the light, and gets startled.
      He sees a big head sitting in a corner, just glaring at him.

      “Where have you been, Cutler?”

      “It’s 6am. I was sleeping.” Cutler shrugs

      “I’ve been here since 4am reviewing tape.” Peyton monotone.

      “That’s cool. Then you can give me the 411, yo!”

      Peyton continues glaring.

      “Hey, can I have some of that pappa johns!?”

  • willbest

    Cutler is a starting caliber NFL QB. He isn’t great but he is a starter. Hoyer is not. If you go into the season with Hoyer or one of his class you are saying “I give up”. And it would be better to put Shaw or Seimian or any other young QB in there instead of just surrendering the season. Tanking is for the NBA not the NFL.

    Now maybe Cutler needs to be someplace else, but there is going to be no Hoyer/Sanchez/McCown bridge. Elway knew it, Jerry knew it. The people in Cleveland tried to avoid it. We know what a no hope caretaker at QB is and its in San Fran right now. They did it wrong. Don’t be like them.

    • BerwynBomber

      Elway didn’t know it. He drafted a young QB this year, had a young one sitting on his bench (in Semien) and brought in Sanchize as a security policy. Once Sanchize didn’t work out, they jettisoned him. Pretty painless.

      Those type of bridge guys are much easier to get rid of than someone making $15M a year. Hoyer is only $750K of guaranteed money.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Let’s not forget forget that Elway DID, in fact, offer Osweiler $16M a year and $30M, guaranteed.

        • BerwynBomber

          Agreed. He was lucky, in retrospect, that the Texans outbid him.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          also Elway tried to trade for Kap.

          • And Paxton Lynch may indeed start by the end of the season, which would make Semien a “bridge” QB.

          • willbest

            Elway got desperate for anybody back there when his QB one plans went sideways. Is Oz a starter? Well in the AFCS sure. And yes Elway dodged a bullet but other teams were lining up to take that bullet. That is different than knowing you got Hoyer though.

      • And the Rams are essentially doing it too – sitting Goff and starting Keenum (who sucks more than Hoyer) for a little while.

        The Rams aren’t going to get demoralized totally with a few stinkers cuz they have hope on the bench in Goff.

        And the Eagles WERE going to do it, were planning on it, but Wentz impressed them so much, they decided against it.

        So using bridge QBs is not exactly rare or even counterproductive as long as the real QB is learning.

        Now, if we get a Wentz type who seems NFL ready from the GO, then that pretty much takes care of itself.

        • willbest

          Bradford is a starter not a bridge, he just can’t stay healthy. Hoyer, isn’t beating the packers.

          • The Eagles saw Bradford as a bridge QB even you don’t.
            In fact, they got TWO bridge QBs if you include Chase Daniels and his contract.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            At only 2 years Bradfords contract said he was brought in as a bridge

          • willbest

            At 2 years it was show us you can stay healthy

          • willbest

            In fact a 2 year deal that basically guarentees all of it was Bradford’s play. He doesn’t want a 7 year 18 mil a year deal where the team controls him and he can be cut in two years at their choice. Cutler can be cut late in FA and be scrambling for a job, Bradford gets to make his next deal before the draft

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Bradford’s contract is through next year. And with only $4mill in dead money he also can be cut late in FA and be scrambling for a job, so your point is moot. Secondly, Bradford threw an absolute hissy fit when they drafted Wentz and wanted he traded. Why? Probably because he realized that he was just a bridge QB and he knew there was a good possibility that he was not going to get a 2nd contract from the Eagles.

        • BerwynBomber

          The defending SB champions Broncos are basically going with their own version of Connor Shaw.

          I don’t buy this — OMG, if we lose Cutler the other players won’t buy into winning and quit. They’re professionals for crying out loud. They should try to win whether a rookie is their QB or the worst guy in the league.

          • We might not be able to get an FA or two, but big deal.

            Look at all the FAs Trestman and Fox have brought in and same result.

          • BerwynBomber

            I wonder how many FAs Cutty attracts.

          • or repels.

            I thought it interesting how Woodson framed Cutler.

            To paraphrase, Woodson essentially said Cutler wasn’t a leader, didn’t inspire, and not playing through that inj in the NFCC sends a msg through the locker room.

            Whether you agree with him or not, maybe other badasses feel the same about Cutler and would rather go elsewhere if given the choice.

            The only Cutler defender on that crew was…Randy Moss! Cuz he wants the ball.

            Straight cash, homie!

          • A7Xthebest

            lol idk where Woodson comes off critiquing Cutler for doing the exact same thing he did 2 weeks later in the SuperBowl. That goes has always been a super douche-not to mention the most overrated CB of all time.

          • BearDown100393

            Brian Hoyer

          • willbest

            FA is mostly about the money, but if you are getting offers say within $250k guaranteed between two places are you going to Buffalo or Chicago?

          • willbest

            You do the job you are paid to do. But that doesn’t create a winning culture when your GM is tellacasting this isn’t our year

        • willbest

          Goff isn’t ready because he can’t elevate his game or fisher is a bigger tool than birdcage

          • Jokey

            Or b/c he can’t learn the playbook or which direction the sun rises?

        • Irish “PRESSURE” Sweetness

          I don’t know about you and QBs. Man. Keenum has most of the college passing records doesn’t he? He’s keeping a top pick off the bench anyway.

          But if you can’t see that Hoyer stinks, I don’t know what else to say.

  • BearDown100393

    13-3

    • BerwynBomber

      With Cutty as MVP, Fox as COY, and Floyd as DROY.

      • BearDown100393

        We just need to relax.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Said the spider to the fly.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “This won’t hurt a bit”.

  • So, do we go the Coughlin, or the Josh McDaniels route?

    Dave Toub?

    • willbest

      Toub.

      • BillW

        We know Toub is smart. Is he a tough SOB too? I’d love to have a smart tough SOB.

        • Don’t really know if Toub is a “fire” guy, but one interesting tidbit I heard from the Pats is that most of their coaches were via SP teams background.

          And it’s been said b4, that sp team coaches are probably closest to HCs in that they must juggle multiple type players that fluctuate from week to week.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      McD would be perfect the perfect end to Cutty’s career here. I kinda feel sorry for Jay, but i’m mostly just done watching him play. He’s like the hot crazy chick.

      • As long as McDaniels is not given personnel decisions, could work.

        He’s a douche, but has more than proven he can formulate a winning gameplan whilst learning from the best HC.

        The other possible douche is Tod Haley, though his Steelers didn’t look all that hot vs Eagles.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “He’s a douche”.

          So’s Belichick.

          So was Parcells.

          That said, the Belichick coaching tree to date is not exactly blooming with successes by his former staffers, is it?

          McDaniels crashed in Denver.

          Romeo Crennel, Eric Mangini & Charlie Weis all ended with a thud.

          Saban is a success, but not at the NFL level.

          • I think Belichick and Parcells were mostly grumpy and unsentimental.

            McDaniels and Haley are world renown d-bags, so much so that they both would be HCs right now if not for their infamous douchbagery.

            Gase in no world should be an HC over either, but he’s a bit more personable, so he indeed is an HC.

          • BearDown100393

            Seems players at least appreciate knowing where they stand with Belichick.

  • BillW

    I posted before I see a similar dilemma that the Bears get into a lot.

    Loggains needs to go. But who replaces him? Anyone now would clearly be interim. Who would come here next year for Fox 3 without being assured there’d be a Fox 4 (or 5 or 6)?

    All logic says the best thing for Pace to do is let Fox “retire” with severance. With two years left, and having just blowed up the front office, will the Bears do that?

    • Scharfinator

      Yeah, hard to say. Pace would look pretty bad – which is unfortunate, because his drafting seems to be pretty solid. I’m not sure if he would survive Fox shipping out – akin to the Emery-Trestman umbilical cord.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft
  • If they have a top pick and like a QB at the top of the draft, by all means draft him.

    But history indicates that reaching for a 2nd-tier QB with a slightly lower pick is a TERRIBLE idea. Way too many Gabberts, Lockers, Ponders, etc. out there.

    If the Bears end up drafting around 10 again this year (I’m guessing that’s where they’ll end up), they either mortgage the farm to move up (like LA and PHI did this year) or stick with Cutler for another year or two while they focus on getting a good roster for a young QB to play with. AKA build a team that can win in the trenches, which they haven’t really had since 2006.

    • But if Cutler keeps playing, we’ll ALWAYS keep finishing 7-9 and missing on those top 2 QBs perennially.

      We start Hoyer for enough games to “beat” the Browns to the #1QB.

      OR, throw the farm as soon as possible (this includes trading Cutler for as much as we can to package the trade up).

      • willbest

        Well at the rate we are going it won’t matter if we start Cutler or not this year.

        • BerwynBomber

          He’ll eventually be worth a win or two more than Hoyer. My opinion at least.

          • willbest

            Probably but as I look at the schedule right now, I can’t say yeah Cutler gets us the win here where Hoyer doesn’t. Maybe that changes if after the bye we have Nanny, Danny, and Eddie back out there and Glenn continues to develop while Willie and Freeman stay healthy.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I think getting the D guys back will make a big difference.

            Remember, too, the entire NFCN is fucked up injury-wise. GB, I believe, was missing five D starters yesterday. MIN lost their starting QB, RB and LT for the year. DET has a laundry list of guys on IR or inactive too.

            We are not alone in terms of a crowded injury wagon.

    • BerwynBomber

      QBs seem like bigger busts because a) it’s a marquee position, but b) it’s only one position. Save kickers/punters, the only other position where that is true is C, and usually a C can play guard in a pinch.

      But we have had plenty of first round non-QBs busts also. You can’t refrain from drafting a QB because of the guys you mentioned. At a certain point you have to trust your scouting and cross your fingers.

  • BearDown100393

    Your hot seat head coaches are currently Jeff Fischer, Jim Caldwell and Rex Ryan. Does that instill any more confidence than the incumbent John Fox?

    • BerwynBomber

      After Fox I may not care much about the whole “we need to hire a guy who has previously been an NFL HC” argument.

      Btw, here’s one: if you had choice between Caldwell and Fox, who would you take?

      • BearDown100393

        Fox

      • MB30SD

        Don’t be crazy

    • I predicted Caldwell to go first, so gotta stick to my guns.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft
    • BerwynBomber

      Yikes …

    • I’m sure Miller won’t mind.

      Who the heck has him in our league? Ender?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      It called cover your ass time.

      • willbest

        Its called playing coy so the Lions have to prepare for both Cutler and Hoyer. Fox hasn’t gone full retard.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Meh..its all just part of the Grand illusion. Rush? Can’t remember but eye think they wrote a song about it.

        • BerwynBomber

          Seemed more like 0-3 coach speak: every position is up for grabs. Not that he will actually start Hoyer over Cutler. Just the whole no one’s position is safe when are this bad line.

    • willbest

      Hoyer did nothing before they were down 3 scores to merit consideration of knocking Cutler off.

  • Malice Halice

    I didn’t watch the game because 3weeks in Im tired of being angry and bitter…
    Glad I didn’t. But from what I read our entire camp is full of bullshitters. The city of Chicago needs to purge the ENTIRE coaching staff. We ain’t got no Leaders on offense none-what-so-ever. The D is depleted, but coaching is bad. We need to trade cutler to Cleveland let dem fight for a starting position n take their picks along our #2 (maybe 1)pick. Eagles, vikings, Patriots have showed me there’s no fuckin excuse for being bad without your starters. Coaches need to step it up n fox is incompetent.
    Pay Peyton Manning 50 mill to come coordinate
    Urlacher on DC for the 100 mill
    Bear down

    • willbest

      So each team grosses somewhere between 300-400 million a year from which they have to pay 150ish million to the players And your thought is to spend another 150 million on two coaches leaving somewhere between 0-100 million to pay the rest of the coaching department, scouting departments, trainers, utility and leasing costs on the facilities and/or upkeep maintenance, hot dog and beer vendors, etc.

      • Malice Halice

        I’m jus talking Ish with da numbers willbest but I’d love to see Urlacher on the staff.

      • Johnnywad

        It has to be a bit. No way that dude’s real.

        • Scharfinator

          Urlacher for DC, hee hee.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    “It’s not an excuse, but it is an excuse”

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/26/john-fox-on-bears-0-3-start-its-frustrating/

    Fuck this club

    • Johnnywad

      There are some truly priceless comments below that article. But this is far and away my favorite…..

      “Mike Ditka would be rolling around in his grave if he could see these Bears. Monsters of the midway? More like chipmunks.”

      That is a beauty.

      • SC Dave

        I don’t quite understand the drivel about trying to get the #1 pick. Who in college football is worth tanking the season to draft? ESPECIALLY three games in.

  • BuddhaJoe

    I think expectations were way too high for the team this year after thinking more about it (mine included). Everybody talking about dumping Fox after last game is being fucking ridiculous, half the defensive starters and the QB were out, that wasn’t happening. We’re just getting the starting lineup built up, so of course we don’t have depth yet. Fangio’s done what he can with what he has so far. Loggains is the one that has sucked, but he’s only had two games (using a shitball like Hoyer hardly counts so I won’t count yesterday). If he sucks the rest of the season then dump his ass but gotta give him time to see if he can learn.

    As to the QB, they should let Cutler play out the rest of his deal but they MUST get a QB to develop in the offseason. Let him sit and learn for 2 years and if he’s ready to go after that then let Cutler walk. But don’t dump Cutler for a lottery ticket that might not do shit, especially when they don’t have the support in place for a rookie to succeed.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      It’s year 2 of the rebuild. Blowing off steam does wonders. Unfortunately, the Bears are on at least a 3 year plan.

      • BuddhaJoe

        True story, I was breathing fire on the blog last night too, but that was IPA and emotion more than anything else.

    • SC Dave

      I agree with this. Or get lucky and find a QB that can start sooner.

  • BuddhaJoe

    If they haven’t learned from McDaniels, Weiss, Mangini, et al and hire another Patriots guy I’ll swear off the Bears until they sell the team. What fucking stupidity.

  • willbest

    Clearly all you people that don’t believe in invisible men in the sky like I do, aren’t getting laid enough

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/living/1853651/having-sex-makes-men-more-likely-to-believe-in-god/

    • Every time MB plays the bottom…ok,. too easy!

      • MB30SD

        Plays the bottom?

        What does that mean? I don’t get it?

        Butch, maybe you can tell us from your years and years of experience/empirical evidence?

        hee hee

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    My theory is that Pace hired Fox to rebuild. It now seems he was never a long term consideration imo. Could be they plan on turning the club over to Fangio after the rebuild. It’s probably a mistake to put any stock in the coaching this year. Between the walking wounded and the new players, should we really be surprised with the 0-3 start? The team the Bears sported on the field last night does not know how to win yet. That much is obvious.

    • I was HOPING we could not suck enough for 1 more season so that we could replace no-heart Fox with Gase, but stupid ass Dolphins fucked us there.

      Don’t know if Gase is the real deal, but he did make Cutler better, and in a QB league, that can’t be overstated.

      As is, I would fire Fox and promote Fangio to do whatever he wants (he wants a new oc, or even keep BirdCage, up to him, but he’ll be told that he’ll be responsible for results).

      Interim/probation period.

      Mostly to see if the team responds to him.

      But I have a sneaking suspicion that Fangio is not HC material.

      SF pretty much wanted anyone but Fangio as HC in their aftermath. it raises an eyebrow.

      Lots of teams overlooked Trestman also (who was a good OC), and now we know why.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Yeah man. Who knows about Fangio. All I know is that the Niners D was a kick ass unit after Singletary went ape shit and got fired. I think he had good instincts and knew who the bad asses were in the draft but when it came to coaching, all he knew how to do was rip peoples heads off. Lol. Maybe Fangio just inherited what Singletary built. Who knows?

        I’m just sick and tired of head coaches that are pussies.

      • DaCoaches Mustache

        Never got the Gase love. Our offense sucked dicks last year. Big harry dicks.

        • I didn’t get the Gase hype either, but he had the built in excuse that the Oline was sucky, the WRs were led by the likes of Mariani, and it was first year in the system.

          Mostly he was good because in spite of all that, he managed to cut down on the Culter TOs, which would go a long way to winning, esp of the D became what it was supposed to.

          Mostly I wanted Gase over Albino Lovie.

          I know what Albino Lovie is – at least Gase is young and has some upside. If he became HC and would’ve hired another studly OC , that might have been enough. Better than our current situation at least.

    • BerwynBomber

      My opposing theory is that Pace didn’t hire Fox. Instead, Fox was hired by Phillips/Acorsi, and Pace was told to make it work. They didn’t completely trust the young, virginal GM. So they married him to old man Fox.

  • willbest

    I don’t know why the Onion is reporting years old news rather than satire like it normally does

    http://www.theonion.com/article/rahm-emanuel-concerned-gun-violence-could-spread-p-54016

  • BerwynBomber

    NO sucks but Brees is still the goods.

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  • BearDown100393

    That was awesome.

  • If NO wins tonight, the entire NFCS is 1-2

    Yikes.

  • Ughhh. Lutz just made a 57 yd FG.

    Why couldn’t we pick him up?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Per Gruden, he was in Ravens camp. Harbaugh recommended him to Peyton after a pre-season game. The Saints brought him in, loved his tryout and Voila, we get Connor Barf.

      • willbest

        The Ravens brought a kicker into camp? Why did tucker pull a muscle?

        • AlbertInTucson

          I THINK Tucker was unsigned at the start of camp.

  • EnderWiggin

    Found a gif of the Famous Amos hit. Worth a watch:

    http://imgur.com/gallery/gSOFlHb

    • beninnorcal

      Just saw that on my fb feed, pretty good.

    • Scharfinator

      Post this earlier, love the work in of Jurassic Park haha

  • MB30SD

    sorry but gruden is a fucking meathead. jesus.

    • BearDown100393

      Gruden or Fox?

      • MB30SD

        both?

  • GPPPPP!!!

    You got gruden grinded! LMAO

    In literally the second to last meaningless play Freeman rips it for 20 yards and bumps Sac over GP.

    I already see a Glitter Heartbreak Award coming to you in the near future.

    • MB30SD

      Ffkrf

    • AlbertInTucson

      Ouch!

      THAT would hurt.

      I was sweating it with all the video game scoring and Freeman and Ingram still in play for my opponent.

      3-0 Start.

      I don’t ever recall starting 3-0.

      Yay, me.

      • MB30SD

        Neither do our bears all. Sadly.

        • Scharfinator

          2006?

          • MB30SD

            I cain’t remembah yesturd day maings… there’s a country song in there somewhere

          • Cormonster

            I remember now
            I remember how it started
            I can’t remember yesterday
            I just remember doing what they told me
            told me
            told me

            Queensryche, Operation Mindcrime

          • CanadaBear

            How was LSD? Did you and Rachel get together after the show?

          • Cormonster

            They really tore it up. Had a great spot for the show. Right where I wanted to be, about the equivalent of 10th row, but above the floor so eye level with the band. I didn’t hook up with her, but she was checking me out throughout the show. Man, was she looking hot. Her stage presence and confidence have really increased the last few years. She’s playing the diva role much more now. The whole band was tight. They are some real pros and know how to put on a show. The crowd was really jacked up too, but stayed very quiet when Rachael sang a solo with just backing harmonies. That rarely happens. There was a lot of energy in the building and crowd participation which was very cool. They will definitely stay towards the top of my bucket list for shows whenever they get close.

          • CanadaBear

            Cool! We’re putting on this show Friday night. Hope we break even!

          • MB30SD

            not a huge QR fan

        • SC Dave

          2013 and 2010 also.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Wow. Seems so much LONGER ago than that.

          • MB30SD

            i wasn’t being literal dave, but thank you… thank you for being 100% literal my maings.

    • BillW

      There are not enough blog points to give you for your avatar. Well done!

  • MB30SD

    You know, most geiko commercials suck, but some…

    It’s lemonade man, what’s wrong with you people.

    Funny.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I like the Allstate “Mayhem” spots.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I think the latest “Mayhem ” effort is just “Meh”.

        My favorites are still the “Bungy Chord” and “Family Size Lighter Fluid” spots.

    • 505Bears

      ICE T!!!

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  • MB30SD

    Yonny and Shady MIA

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Jess

  • Freddy G.P. Soft
    • MB30SD

      Smh

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      ‘Someone gave me a bag at a party’

      Somewhere, a really happy team of attorney’s are smiling.

    • Bender McLugh

      SIGN HIM!

  • 505Bears

    Well, think I’ll save my money when I go to Indy and watch the game at a bar. This team is horrible. I hope they prove me wrong in the next few weeks, but I doubt it.

    • BearDown100393

      The Colts are horrible.

      • 505Bears

        True, but 2 shitties don’t equal anything good, or close to good.

        • BearDown100393

          Nah, the Bears are running the table the rest of the way. 13-3.

          • SC Dave

            11-5

      • AlbertInTucson

        Bears will make them look good by not laying a hand on Luck.

        • BearDown100393

          Willie Young will take care of Luck.

  • Big Mike

    Big Mike still sad that season has turned to shit. Cancelled trip to Tampa. First time in 20 years not going to a road game. Team I coach is really pulling for the Bears now. They are running 50 yard sprints for every point the Bears give up.

    • CanadaBear

      You’re going to have a team of sprinters by the end of the season.

      • Big Mike

        We’ll see how long this metric applies. The target is 24-30 sprints (8-10 per night), we spread these out across 3 nights of practice so it’s not as bad as it seems. We also add/delete sprints for stats from the youth teams games/practices. So all in all it’s just a way for coaches to come up with a number of sprints we want the kids to run.

        • CanadaBear

          Cool! I was pretty sure you weren’t the Marquis de Sade!

          • Big Mike

            But they are now very concerned about the Bears’ defense. some quotes from players “coach, I’m a cowboy’s fan, but I feel bad for you”, “damn coach, your team sucks”, “hey coach, why does your number 1 draft choice play DE, he looks like (names skinniest kid on our team)”. “You’re boys get injured awful easy”.

          • CanadaBear

            The bad part is you can’t even say anything. The little bastards are correct. More wind sprints!!!!!!!

          • Big Mike

            For me the coaching point is a discussion around football. Unfortunately when I show Bears All 22 it’s been to point out what not to do. Giving up the edge on run defense, not turning to play the ball, over pursuing. I was able to show good examples of combo blocking and getting to the 2nd level (sitton/whitehair) and a few other positives that tied in to what I was coaching.

          • Jokey

            Big Mike wtf is wrong with our running game?

          • MB30SD

            oline.

            you’re welcome mike

          • Big Mike

            No.. Down and distance, passing threat ineffective, playing from behind, TE’s have blown huge blocks at the wrong time.

          • Jokey

            We do run early before we’re behind, and it always seems like there are no holes and Langford is running into someone’s backside. They don’t look like off-tackle runs to me. It seems like the oline doesn’t get how zone blocking is supposed to work (not that I do, so maybe my eye test is bad). Of course when Thayer does his telestrator stuff it’s always on good plays not bad ones.

          • Big Mike

            Zone blocking is about the back pressing the OL and cutting back. Early we get off schedule with ridiculous penalties or bringing the ball out of the end zone, having a penalty on special teams that put as inside our own 10 yard line.

            Can’t establish the run, unless you have favorable down and distance.

          • Big Mike

            Down and distance, passing threat ineffective, playing from behind, TE’s have blown huge blocks at the wrong time.

  • CanadaBear

    Not that it means anything but the Beloved have hit rock bottom in the power rankings at NFL.com. In all my years as a Bears fan I can’t remember them being at the bottom of the rankings. Some of their teams were worse back in the day but they didn’t have power rankings back then. Record-wise Fox is worse than Nessman. FUCK!

    • Big Mike

      Yeah, it’s painful to see. Who knew..

      • CanadaBear

        Are you as surprised as me that Fox seems like zombie? I’m sure he still cares but it seems like he’s as baffled as anyone. Didn’t see that coming.

        • BearDown100393

          Chicago media is different than Denver or Carolina.

    • willbest

      We haven’t hit rock bottom yet. We lay another egg this week, and they will include Bama and UMich next week to provide a point of reference.

    • I was watching the Saints game last night. Their D is MUCH worse than ours, but at least they can post like 40 points a game.

      The Browns SHOULD’VE beat the Ravens. They showed much more heart, and they have some hope with Gordon coming back and a resurgent Pryor, McCown is supposed to return.

      And even if they bomb, it’ll only make their gazzillion draft picks that much higher.

      We are by far the worst and most depressing team in the NFL.

      Everyone’s hurt. Backup QB. No heart. No brains.

      • CanadaBear

        I was shocked how bad the NO D was last night. It’s like they never practiced before. I’ll bet there were at least 10 plays by ATL last night where there wasn’t a defender within 10 yds.

  • CanadaBear

    I loved Greg Hardy’s excuse for having coke in the vehicle. Somebody handed me a bag at a party. I’ve been to a ton of parties back in the day where people were doing coke (not my thing). Not once have I ever seen someone give away a bag of coke. Coke heads are more likely to give away their first born than a bag of coke at a party.

    • Bender McLugh

      Watch Ballers.

      • CanadaBear

        Watched the season finale the other night. Some of it is hokey as hell but it is entertaining. It’s not like a have a crush on him but The Rock is good in it. Rob Corddry is great in it.

    • BearDown100393

      Ray Donovan is on this.

    • lol THAT was the best he could come up with?

      Should’ve done more coke to become more creative.

      • CanadaBear

        It certainly would have taken longer to explain to the cops! Coke heads are some of the worst. Had a friend that was really into it and all the people she did coke with were really crummy people.

  • Big Mike

    Also… did Lovie Smith ever start out 0-3? Why couldn’t he simply have figured out how to hire an OC.

    • CanadaBear

      Truly his undoing. As much as some of the regs hate Lovie, he looks like a HOF’er compared to the last 2 hires.

      • MB30SD

        trestman yes, fox no. not sure what’s up with fox yet, but not hanging him at this point.

        • CanadaBear

          You might want to start shopping for some quality rope. Some of it is the crappy roster and all the injuries but there’s more going on than that. This team looks lifeless. Not to mention it looked like they threw in the sponge against Philly. It just seem like Fox has totally lost interest.

          • MB30SD

            I get it and I think I agree canada.

            As I proffered on a previous thread, I think after the heart attack I think his doc said you need to calm the fuck down… and now we have this.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Hence the 20 million dollar phone call. Pace gave him an offer he couldn’t refuse.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I can’t blame this completely on injuries when I look around to see how MIN, GB and even DET are performing with their own M.A.S.H units.

          • willbest

            When Minny starts losing key players on their D it will matter. I get how ordinarily your QB, LT, and RB matter to most teams, but they weren’t playing that great to begin with. So its not like their offense was downgraded all that much.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The attrition rate in the NFL scares me.

    • MB30SD

      you fucking stop this RIGHT NOW GOD DAMN IT!!!

      Lovie smith is a fucking shitweasle who lucked into some amazing draft picks mike. You know better than this.

      • Scharfinator

        Big MIke is starting to sound like all those old farts who keep talking about 85 like it was last year and not over 3 DECADES ago.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          I understand where he’s coming but never…eye mean never invoke Lovie regret.

          • MB30SD

            EVER

        • MB30SD

          I loves me some big mike, but lovie is a cunt of a football coach

        • SC Dave

          Lovie Smith was a better coach than just about all of them in my life.

          Take that as you will, but it’s definitely true.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Lamenting over cucumbers and melons has never been my thing.

        #exodus

      • Big Mike

        Nope, I’m a big fan of Lovie. Always have been, Always will be. Don’t want him back, I agreed it was time for him to go. But after the last 4 years, you just wonder? I thought Fox was the answer. I guess 0-3 back to back starts makes it tough.

        • MB30SD

          understand, but still. dude showed how good he was without a bunch of probowlers at tampa. guy’s doggie poopie maings.

          • SC Dave

            Lovie was purported to know a bit about defense, so there is a distinct possibility that he coached those guys up a bit.

          • MB30SD

            and fired Chico. good call there!

      • SC Dave

        So what does that make Ditka then?

        • MB30SD

          selfish megalomaniac…. but still a good coach.

          Lovie smith is a fucking zombie… most likely a decent-to-good DC though if that makes you feel better dave?

    • BerwynBomber

      Not to defend Lovie but the unbalanced team/blowing a title(s) opportunity thing probably happens more than we think elsewhere around the league.

      Imagine Rodgers or Brees having the benefit of playing with a badass D for a few years. Hell, Brees in particular is often asked to play with guys off the street and put up 35 a game. And that is just to keep NO in the game.

      Or think back to those Billick Baltimore teams. Yeah, they got one ring (w/ Trent Dilfer no less), but even if they’d had an average O a few years they probably would have at least reached another SB. If not won another one.

      • SC Dave

        It’s more excusable than blowing chances for multiple SBs with a stacked team.

    • BearDown100393

      2004: 1-2 (1-5 to begin season)
      2005: 1-2
      2006: 3-0 (7-0 to begin season)
      2007: 1-2
      2008: 1-2
      2009: 2-1
      2010: 3-0
      2011: 1-2
      2012: 2-1 (7-1 to begin season)
      —–
      2013: 3-0
      2014: 2-1
      —–
      2015: 0-3
      2016: 0-3

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Be careful Mike. Look what Lovie did in Tampa. Or should I say didn’t do. Besidespite the fact he went to work for one of thee worst owners in the league.

      • Big Mike

        His firing was a shock to me. It was to most people. But it was because he didn’t do offense.

        • willbest

          Really, they fired Angelo the year before. Only reason Lovie didn’t go is there was 2 years on his contract. That is why the only OC available was Tice after Martz quit.

          • Big Mike

            At Tampa. Bears firing was inevitable.

          • willbest

            Less patient owners. There are like 10 organizations that are in consideration year in and year out, and if your front office/coaching staff isn’t producing that whether its through FA like Elway or through the draft like Seattle then out you go.

  • MB30SD
  • BerwynBomber

    Here is a mindblower.

    We have not beaten DET since 2012. They have beaten us six straight times.

    • BearDown100393

      No longer after this weekend.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        We do have better LB’s and Amos. It wouldn’t surprise me but I’m not holding my breath.

        • CanadaBear

          Hope you’re not including C. Jones!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Gulp…

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        We appreciate your kool aid drinking BD. Jim Jones would have loved you.

        • BearDown100393

          13-3

      • AlbertInTucson

        They better find a way to put pressure on Stafford or it will be more of the same crap we’ve been enduring.

        • BearDown100393

          Agreed. Stafford needs some turf face time.

          • SC Dave

            Quality time is important to some, you know.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Of couse not. That’s what happens when you don’t have a secondary and your linebackers suck.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Another one of those”They aren’t very good” reminders.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    MB –

    He’s almost heeeeeeeeere

    • MB30SD

      eeeeexcellent.

      How goes the war my maings. hope you’re still positive about it… you’re def coming out on the better half of that. Even though, 7 years is a long time and change is hard, if even for the (MUCH!!!) better.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        It’s not for the better. What would have been for the better is if she was still the person she was for the first few years. Objectively I didn’t do anything wrong. Didn’t cheat, was a very good person each and every day, cared about her the best I could. But she is just too controlling. I am laid back outside of work, where I am Type A, but at home I am not. She is always type A. She can’t shut it off.

        I just tell you the story so you understand the pitfalls. You are about a decade behind me. You are where I was 10 years ago. Sick of online dating, ready to be with the one person that was right. I chose somebody who ultimately – really as a core part of the person – really didn’t like kids and wasn’t going to do well as they got past young and cute and into teenage years.

        The years were financially beneficial because she was high net-worth. So it helped to split everything and save. That was nice. But now, here at the end of things, what? I have nothing really to show for it outside of the money in the account.

        That’s not nothing. I didn’t want somebody who was looking for me to bankroll their kid’s college, and there were plenty of those out there 10 years ago. But like a driver on wet pavement, I over-corrected. I got somebody who loves status and power more than family. Don’t make that mistake.

        • MB30SD

          you are better off man. She sounds like a horrible person… from the few sentences you’ve written about her. Good people don’t do that shit man. period.

          So while I get how you’re feeling now, you WILL look back and say, thank fucking god she did all of us a favor.

          And let me relay a story JUST told to me by a friend. Let’s pretend you all ‘know’ this friend. We’ll say hes a… professor… of… um… science, a type of science. He goes through a horrible divorce, chick sucks, bad deal, kids in the middle… bad shit… but I gets a text from him TODAY, and he’s smashing good things that he’s always wanted to smash and he’s on top of the world. You might say his sin curve is pointing up.

          As for me my brother, I’m not sick of strange going on 5 years. and I don’t think I’m ever going to get married again. If I do, she will be so heavily vetted and the bar will be so high, I don’t think it exists.

          Anyway, hang in… as always, looking back you’ll be very happy about it.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            I don’t know. She was a beauty. She looked just like this:

            http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-POx-6oV2mig/VF0-g_p39XI/AAAAAAABXj4/_Cn1B-PiVZU/s1600/Angie_Everhart_victoriassecret.filminspector.com_9.jpg

            She was aging amazingly in her 40s. She is really attractive and she did it for me. At my age, I don’t think I will see her like again.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, great. doesn’t help the fact that she sounds like an absolute cunt of a human.

            You’ll be fine big boy, promise. Ask our friend the professor.

          • CanadaBear

            Wow, she was a hottie. Not sure exactly how old you are but trust me, unless you’re old as hell and acting old as hell, there are younger, beautiful women everywhere that would hook up with you. My wife is 13 years younger and looks 20 years younger. She’s way too hot for an old troll like me but there it is. If you don’t obsess over it and let it happen naturally, I’m guessing you will find a replacement. Might have to kiss a few frogs along the way but worse things could happen. Hang in there, man.

          • Agree with Canada.

            As with any woman, there’s always give and take. Maybe the next chick is just a notch below in looks, but gives the greatest head ever. Or loves cooking. Or is into 3somes. Or makes you laugh more.

            The one thing I found in my many encounters, in the end, they’re pretty much all the same, for better or worse. They even out in one way or another.

            There isn’t going to be a young Jessica Simpson with a PHd who loves cooking and The Wire, bj-ing, cars, football, and is rich.

            Just doesn’t exist.

            (Unless you’re MB going on a Jdate dinner! bwhahaha)

            And in the meanwhile, stripbars and message parlors.

          • MB30SD

            Combine all 3 I say!

          • Doc Nitty

            🙂

        • SC Dave

          There will be grief involved unless one is amoral. A meaningful relationship cannot simply end without some.

          The only cliche I will offer is time definitely helps. It gives perspective.

          Please try not to cause collateral damage in the aftermath. Been there, done that.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          “Everybody knows that you love me baby
          Everybody knows that you really do
          Everybody knows that you’ve been faithful
          Ah give or take a night or two
          Everybody knows you’ve been discreet
          But there were so many people you just had to meet
          Without your clothes
          And everybody knows”

          Cheer up.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Sauron –

            The next time you quote Concrete Blonde to me I guarantee I am going to Frodo your ass.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Come on’n. I’ll be your punching bag…let it all out big boy.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s actually Leonard Cohen. Canadian, eh?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Yeah. I had that song in my minds eye all day and I over did it. My bad.

          • CanadaBear

            Oops.

    • SC Dave

      No getting the reference… about some car show?

  • Bender McLugh

    Can we have our damn Bears team back already? Where the hell did it go anyway?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Week 4 and the blog has died on the vine already. It’s too bad.

      • willbest

        Perhaps they are just on other sites confirming their bias against that other thing that was on last night.

        I just want some good news this week. Like, Joe Thomas got caught boffing Haslam’s mistress, gets cut, and the Bears sign him.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Shaking my eye. As far as last night goes, let me offer up a bards wisdom that says it all.

          “Everybody knows that the dice are loaded,
          Everybody rolls with their fingers crossed,
          Everybody knows the war is over,
          Everybody knows the good guys lost,
          Everybody knows the fight is fixed,
          The poor stay poor, the richest rich,
          That’s how it goes……..everybody knows.”

          • CanadaBear

            Canadian, eh?

          • Bender McLugh

            +1000 Leonard to the rescue

    • BearDown100393

      Arriving this weekend @ Soldier Field.

      • MB30SD

        BOOM!

        FUUUUUCK the lions. I think we win this!

        • BearDown100393

          Think?
          Will.

          • MB30SD

            I like your moxie. meah meah, moxie I says

    • Big Mike

      Injured, New York and New England

  • willbest

    Its kind of rough to wake up one morning and realize you can no longer find relief in being glad you aren’t a Browns fan.

    • BerwynBomber

      You can still find relief. We didn’t trade the draft rights to Wentz.

      • willbest

        Perhaps… 3 games doesn’t make a HoF career. And the problem with Wentz to the browns is that the most dangerous spot in football the last few years has been to be ahead of Josh McCown on the depth chart.

        • AlbertInTucson

          6 different starting QBs in their last 6 games, I believe…?

      • AlbertInTucson

        But they probably would have….?

  • Are we back to cheering for them to lose already?

    I know I’m already rooting for the Browns and Saints.

    • willbest

      As long as Drew Brees is healthy the Saints will get 4 wins. I don’t know about the Browns other than the guy that posted the cop murder picture is beasting

    • MB30SD

      never!

      and despite that pathetic D last night, brees is a fucking machine. I’ve seen him at least 4 times in the last two summers in my hood. not a big guy.

      • SC Dave

        Never is fucking right!

        • Huge Bears Penis

          says the guy that was going to give up on the Bears and become a Panther fan a week or so ago.

          • SC Dave

            You such a fucking liar, dude.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            “I’m so close to being permanently done with this fucking shitshow of a franchise.
            At least I have the Panthers to watch. You know, a real team.” – SC Dave stated on the ‘Eagles at Bears Game Thread’

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Edit…edit…before it’s too late. Lol

            Eye still love you Dave.

    • willbest

      I am trying to determine if the Eagles D is a mirage. Their best performance was against the high flying Steelers offense. I almost feel bad for them though. Week 4-5 byes create 12-13 game death marches.

      • Yes, that D completely shut down the Steelers high flying O.

        That was crazy. If that D is that dominant, then they can really make some noise.
        Wentz has already been compared to Roth, but I think he takes care of the ball even better, and Roth won the SB his rookie year (I think)

        • BerwynBomber

          Nah, R-berger’s first SB came in his third year I believe. But he did start something like the last 11 games of his rookie year and was very productive/efficient.

      • BerwynBomber

        They have three quality guys in Cox, Jenkins and Graham. And though Shorts is a dickhead, the guy can coach D.

    • SC Dave

      I’m not.

  • BearDown100393

    Bell Da New Bear RB

    • Joique Bell?

      Didn’t he have a million concussions, or am I thinking of the other Lion’s HB.

      I don’t get it. Why have Senorise Perry on our squad for like 3 years only to promote a total stranger.

      I would’ve gone with a higher upside HB.

    • BerwynBomber

      He was very tough for the Lions in ’14. But it is there anything left?

      Oh well. He’s just here to back-up Howard. For now.

  • BerwynBomber

    Fuller to IR

    • perfect.

      For the year?

      Another Fox inj special

      • BerwynBomber

        8 weeks

        • Kinda sucks. But at the same time, it’s not as if Fuller is lockdown. Might actually be a good thing. That might force Fox to play the youngsters so that we find out if they’re any good.

          • SC Dave

            I’m assuming it’s mostly Fangio’s decision who plays on defense.

        • Big Mike

          Great. How about having ducking surgery when the year ends.

          • Big Mike

            Paycheck grabbing loser

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I am thinking we need to start looking into the Training and Medical staff for the Bears. 1st the White incident, holding off surgery, 2nd the McPhee debacle letting him play last year saying he could not do anymore harm to his knee, and now Fuller who only had his knee scoped out for the year. Where did these guys get their medical degrees? There is the case that players should play through pain but evidently these guys are injured and the med staff aren’t making the right choices.

          • willbest

            Data needs to do a breakdown to see if the Bears are “unlucky” in this regard.

          • MB30SD

            Grenada most likely

          • Big Mike

            It’s been 2-3 years of this. Maybe longer. I’m tired of not seeing what we actually have. We spent last year with all of our WRs out. Now we’re missing half our defense.

        • willbest

          We are blowing our designated to return on that guy?

      • Big Mike

        Add up the impact of Bears #1 draft choices.

        • willbest

          In the last 15 drafts that would be Kyle Long and Tommy Harris. I don’t count Olsen because we never used him like we were supposed to even if the Panthers have.

          • Big Mike

            Kyle Fuller, fuck. Kevin White, meh.. Leonard Floyd, can’t say but not impressed. Can’t cover, can’t get to the passer and can’t stop the run. Shea McLellin, Gabe Carimi. Stop the fuckin pain.

    • BearDown100393

      He was injured in training camp. He had knee surgery in mid August. Fuller tried and it didn’t work out. So he has to go on 8 week IR.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Agreed.

      I suggest chilling with a bottle of Tradewind with a Xanax chaser.

      Put The Raid 2 on the Roku:

      Sit back and enjoy more bad asserey in 90 minutes than the Chicago Bears generate in a decade.

  • willbest

    Timu expected to be promoted to the 53. Irish should be happy.

    • MB30SD

      timu is solid. nothing espectacular like freeman, but solid

      • SC Dave

        Agreed. I would play him over Jones.

    • Maybe Timu will inject some energy into that lethargic D.

      Wasn’t Anderson OK? Could’ve sworn he was progressing.

      • willbest

        I don’t know… I just want a defensive stud that will be a Bear in 3 years

      • SC Dave

        I seem to recollect that too, but has he seen the field much?

  • willbest

    I liked it better last year when Cutler was introducing himself to the wide receivers in the huddle each offensive possession because hadn’t ever met them before, than this years defensive massacre. He is good enough to make that work as long as the defense is in a position to keep the opponents under 20 points.

    • BerwynBomber

      Forte, Alshon and Uni had over 150 catches last year. Hardly a bunch of nobodies.

      And we had given up more points last year after three games than this year’s team, even discounting Cutty’s pick six against ARI.

      #memoriesplaytricksquickly

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Kate Upton has caused this blog to spill more seed than Muhammad Ali at a bird feeder.

    • MB30SD

      good one

    • Huge Bears Penis

      poor taste… I bet Ali is shaking in his grave in anger.

    • willbest

      I was getting sex on the regular by the time she showed up so I don’t think I have manually released with her on my mind. Tiffani Amber Thiessen though… you could repopulate the Earth 100 times over with that seed.

    • SC Dave

      *sigh* That was TEN YEARS ago.

    • MB30SD

      yeah, sigh indeed. fuuuuck

    • BerwynBomber

      Wow, forgot this was the ten year anniversary of that team.

      Damn Benson and Rex’s small hands.

      • SC Dave

        And Rivera’s inability to adapt ti Manning throwing to RB, which was as much as anything else why we lost.

  • Wow. Was scrolling thru my twitter, ran across this

    https://twitter.com/PFF/status/780892527989751808

    In short, PFF grades out our Oline well (except Massie, of course).

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Wolverines v. Badgers this Saturday.

    Harbaugh has been killing it, but the Badgers rolled Sparty like a alley wino. Who wins?

    • MB30SD

      Jimmy. I told all you guys.

      Title in 2 years. Dude’s a fucking machine

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      You got one more year with him and then his ass is ours.

      • MB30SD

        yeeees, our plan is coming together nicely.

        • BearDown100393

          SEAL training probably pales in comparison to the stress of working for Harbaugh.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Yeah man. It’s gotta happen!
          This team needs a kick in the pants.

    • BearDown100393

      Michigan.

      Freddy P Soft won’t be knocked off that shoulder anytime soon.

    • Cormonster

      Wisconsin’s defense and ball control offense should keep it close, but I’m guessing Michigan will win. I’m a little surprised at Wisconsin’s early success. I thought next would be a better year for them.

      One guy to keep an eye on for Wisconsin is TJ Watt, JJ and Derek’s little brother. He’s an outside linebacker who has 5 sacks on the year, including 2.5 last week against Mich. St. He also had a big 4th and 1 stop on Leonard Fournette in the LSU game.

      Go Bucky!

  • BearDown100393

    “When you’re making this many roster moves between weeks 3 and 4, let me tell you something. You stink.”

    Or you are holding the roster accountable and demand better for the franchise and its fans. Or perhaps you are also dealing with an injury riddled lineup. The time to worry is when those in a position to try and make improvements, stand pat and act complacent.

    It seem that no matter the action (or no action at all), the resulting tweet would be more or less “f*ck the Bears” anyway.

    At least be consistent.

    13-3

  • Campbell and Weirderer saying the last flicker of hope has already been snuffed out in that locker room, and it’s only sept!

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-bears-download-podcast-htmlstory.html

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      How do you know you are at a gay picnic? All the hot dogs taste like shit. NTTAWWT

    • SC Dave

      Like those assholes know anything

    • BearDown100393

      They are confusing the Bears for a newspaper company.

    • chitownproud85

      One win. Just one win, one taste, and you just never know. I will not sign 2016’s death warrant in September. Not happening.

      • SC Dave

        This. But after detroit, its October

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Here’s a better joke

    A woman is lying in a coma in a hospital. The nurse comes in and begins washing her vagina. The woman starts moaning. So she goes in a little deeper and the woman is biting her lip and whispering yes.

    So the nurse comes out and says to husband “I think maybe it could help if you perform oral sex with your wife.” So the guy goes into the room and closes the curtain around the bed.

    In 2 minutes the ekg alarm went off. The woman has flatlined.

    The nurse says to the husband “what happened?”

    He says “I don’t know I think she choked”

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  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Why sign Bell instead of just re-signing Jacquizz? Jock Jizz at least knows the blocking scheme and plays.

    • BearDown100393

      If it doesn’t work out, Soldier Field gained a security guard.

    • BerwynBomber

      Bell’s a banger, the Jizz is more a change of pace/3rd down guy. Still, it’s a valid question.

      Btw, I thought someone picked up the Jizz?

      • BearDown100393

        He was signed by Tampa Bay.

  • chitownproud85

    Bears 3-3 when week 6 rolls around. The Lions have been sweeping us? Long hair, dont care. The Colts game is in Indy and they havent looked like an 0-16 team this year, so no way we can beat them? Long hair, dont care. The Jaguars? Fuck Florida. 3-3 week 6. This ‘tard Carnival is kicking into overdrive and the football Gods have a sense of humor. BEAR DOWN GODDAMNIT

    • SC Dave

      Fuck it. I’m in

    • BearDown100393

      13-3

      • chitownproud85

        YOU BET YOUR ASS

  • AlbertInTucson

    Reports that J.J. Watt is headed for I.R…?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Guess he reinjured that back.

      NFL attrition strikes, again.

  • AlbertInTucson

    New thread.

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