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The Possibilities at Eleven: Volume I

| April 18th, 2016

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The Bears website catalogued the players being mocked to the team by analysts across the country. Andrew Dannehy weighs in on each. This is the first of four volumes.

Prospect Profile: Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State

Pros: Conklin is big (6’6″, 305) and nasty with exceptionally long arms (35 inches). He was al All-American playing against tough competition at Michigan State. Might not be a better pass-blocker than Charles Leno right away, but he has athletic upside and would immediately be a mauler in the run game.

Cons: His footwork makes him looks slow out of his stance at times. He’ll probably struggle against speed-rushers, which could be a major problem in a division with Clay Matthews. If he struggled at left tackle, the Bears really don’t have anywhere else to put him.

Summary: Conklin is a good prospect and one of my favorites tackle prospects in this draft. If the Bears are confident he can improve his footwork and play left tackle right away, he could very well be the pick. Personally, I’m not convinced he’s going to be an upgrade over Leno, in year one, anyway.

Jeff’s Thought: Aren’t the days of the tough, white Big Ten tackle over? When I watch Conklin I can’t imagine any scenario where he is able to block Von Miller.

Prospect Profile: Leonard Floyd, Edge, Georgia

Pros: At six-foot-six, Floyd showed exceptional agility and fluid hips, even running down the field with wide receivers at times last season. He can be a chess piece as he can drop in coverage and rush from a variety of positions on defense.

Cons: Just not strong. Most of his pressures came by running around offensive tackles, not beating them with strength or technique.  He’s a very good athlete. He isn’t amazing. Seemed to miss a lot of tackles, likely because of his lack of upper body strength.

Summary: Floyd is a tough prospect for me. If he adds strength, he could become a good pass-rusher, but he’d need to add a lot of strength. Right now he’d be a situational / kind of a gimmick player. High risk, high reward.

Jeff’s Thought: I don’t think the Bears are in position to be adding “a chess piece” with the eleventh pick. 

Prospect Profile: Vernon Hargreaves, CB, Florida

Pros: Considered by many to be the best cornerback in the class. Has a strong frame and showed explosive athleticism in college and at the combine. Intercepted 10 passes in three years at Florida and defended 27 more.  Considered to be competitive and instinctive.

Cons: Measured under 5’11” and has short arms. Questions if he’ll be able to match up with bigger receivers outside and he might have to be a slot corner. Only had four passes defended last year.

Summary: If he were two inches taller, he’d be a lock to be taken in the top five. As it stands, he could drop out of the top 10 and the Bears would be forced to make a decision. They could use him like Arizona uses the Honey Badger.

Jeff’s Thought: Corners scare me. I just don’t see the value anymore. With the rules changing every day to make it easier for passing games to excel, why would an NFL use this high of a pick on a position the league itself is trying to relegate to the bargain bin? 

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  • Big Mike

    First.

    • Big Mike

      Also.. at this point in the run up to the draft, every prospect is defective. Guess this prospect from last year.
      Graded as “Chance to become an NFL Starter”
      “Sources Tell Us “I wouldn’t take him inside the first two
      rounds. He’s good, but he’s not that good that I would be willing to
      deal with his emotional issues.” — NFC personnel director

      “The tape shows his capabilities. He can be really good if you can
      control him. He’s on our board right now but there were some long talks
      about him in meetings. I fought for him.” – NFC defensive backs coach”

      Inconsistent with footwork and loose with technique. Lacks patience in
      press and will open up early. Grabby off line of scrimmage and downfield
      when beaten. Average mirror-and-match and long speed.

      Marcus Peters.. NFL Defensive Rookie of the year.

    • Bender McLugh

      how plausible is it that an OL guy fixes “bad feet” from College to Pro?

      • Big Mike

        It’s really hard to say. College players don’t train year round. They don’t necessarily work on their weaknesses. With that said I’d rather train up a guy with strength, flexibility or technique issues. Foot speed can be improved with repetitive motion training, but you’re never going to take a plodder, and make him quick footed. I don’t like the prospect with “bad feet”. If it is any indication, selecting Grasu says the Bears value quick feet and believe they can add strength.

        • Bender McLugh

          I was feeling the same about a prospect with “bad feet”, but wasn’t sure if that was correctable.

          • Big Mike

            Improvements to footwork can be made. Hip strength, lower body flexibility, core strength all go into good footwork, but genetics play a bigger part. My opinion it is the wiring between the foot and the brain that makes some OTs lightfooted and other’s not so much.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I thought Jeff said to draft Conklin a month ago.
    Sorry, that was a different white offensive lineman who is slow.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Irish, I was getting caught up from this weekend.
    “I don’t know any site that has glitchy streams. ‘Glitches’ take place on the client side. Clean out your cache form time to time.”
    You really should look into doing remote customer service for Netflix, Hulu, etc.

    • Bender McLugh

      hahaha

    • Irish Sweetness

      “It’s not us! Call Microsoft!”

    • It absolutely matters from site to site. Some of those sites are shady and provide bad streams that keep glitching due to the shitty ads that keep popping up. Video is blurry and often lags/buffers.

      Then I go to wiz1.net and it’s like watching it in HD via my cable.

      Same computer, same internet, different site. That’s the only variable that changed.

      • CanadaBear

        JW as you probably know I’m not exactly an IT guy. Am I asking for a virus going to that site?

        • no, that one’s pretty good. Just don’t click on the ads, or have adblocker installed.

          For that one, should have 1 ad pop up at first. If you close that and go full screen, no more pop up.

          • CanadaBear

            Bless you, my son! I’ve had a generous offer from a fellow DBB’er to get the games slightly more legit but a good backup plan is always a good idea. Thanks again!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Actually I was an IT guy. I don’t have any problems with the sites I use. I only use a couple. I use Avira – it catches everything.

          You’ll never get HD, mind.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Yes, that was my point.

  • Scharfinator

    Most people don’t know that Conklin is actually related to Conky.

    http://comedyforanimators.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/BubblesAndConkey.jpg

    • CanadaBear

      A Canadian icon!

  • Irish Sweetness

    On Floyd : ” Most of his pressures came by running around offensive tackles, not beating them with strength or technique.”

    Erm ….. most of Batman’s niftiness comes from gadgets and isn’t niftiness from being born on Krypton. So? Doesn’t the end justify the means? I think having a guy who can (a) rush the passer (b) run sideline to sideline and (c) run downfield covering the tallest receivers in the game … is a freak. It also kind of means you can act as a huge safety. And if he’s running straight at the QB by blitzing the A gap, there’s no way the QB is throwing it over his head without putting it up for grabs. We’d be lucky to have him.

    On Conklin: “He’ll probably struggle against speed-rushers…”

    Good night. I don’t think Pace will take a tackle with the 11th pick, there isn’t one good enough there with Leno and Tayo already on the team. There won’t be a BPA at tackle at 11 unless Tusil was there somehow.

    On Hargreaves : “If he were two inches taller …”

    If my aunty had balls ……

    • CanadaBear

      The little bit I saw on highlight tapes, he reminded me of a slightly faster CD. Avoiding contact, usually coming from the side and not taking anyone head on.

      • MB30SD

        Um, no thanks.

    • It matters because that shit works on mediocre offensive tackles, but not on NFL tackles.

      Some things translate to the next level. Some don’t.

      You can’t dominate the best in the world just by being more athletic than them. You need outstanding technique too. If you don’t develop that technique in the NFL, you won’t make it.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        As a long-time Bears fan, I am baffled by your dichotomy of NFL tackles vs. mediocre tackles.
        There is a difference?

        • When you’re talking mediocre college tackles vs. mediocre NFL tackles, there’s a huge difference. There are 250 starting OTs in D1 college, they have to be recycled every 4 years (good ones leave in 3).

          There are 64 starting OTs in the NFL, and the good ones stick around for a decade plus.

          In a typical college season, even playing a tough schedule, an edge rusher goes up against a future starting NFL OT in maybe 2-3 games. And often you can move your best rusher to the opposite side to get away from that.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I was being a fucking smart-ass, Data.
            Good points all around, but sheesh!

  • CanadaBear

    Just in case you don’t dislike Dickerson enough, here’s a wonderful video with his stellar insights on the Bears. http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago-bears/post/_/id/4702401/john-fox-focused-on-jay-cutlers-continued-improvement

    • beninnorcal

      F that guy.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m sure he’s trying to be THAT GUY but what a tiresome exercise.

  • Scharfinator

    In non football related news, holy shit. Is this real? That old guy must be high off his ass.

    http://jalopnik.com/watch-this-annoyed-reporter-rescue-a-man-from-a-sinking-1771566501

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Two comments –
      1) +50 reporter points for not putting down the microphone while pulling old guy out of the water.
      2) Anybody consider maybe putting down some road flares or something, anything to block people from driving under that overpass?

    • Doc Nitty

      “Stay in the car?”

      Baaahahahaha!

      “Yes! Stay in the car. Your lord will save you. Just stay and pray!”

    • Sactowns#1

      When it started bobbing up and down in the water I chuckled, but when the backup lights came on I was dying!

      • Doc Nitty

        Me too!

        “What do I do?”

        “Try reverse! No? That won’t work? How about 1st gear? 2nd gear? Try a rolling jumpstart! No? Shit I’m out of ideas.”

        • Sactowns#1

          Better turn these wipers on high. I cant see anything out of the windshield, it looks like its under water or something.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Jeff’s Thought: Corners scare me. I just don’t see the value anymore. With the rules changing every day to make it easier for passing games to excel, why would an NFL use this high of a pick on a position the league itself is trying to relegate to the bargain bin?

    Is this a serious thought? It’s a joke right?

    The EXACT OPPOSITE is true. To win, you need dominant corners, the best corners, because that is the ONLY HOPE you have of shutting down the opposing passing game.

    Jeff is like Jerry Tarkanian at UNLV. Fuck defense, let’s just out score them.

    Um…. no. Corners are very very valuable, and since Jeff laments the day Charles left down in about every 4th tweet, he should really know the value of a tough corner.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Paul Westhead philosophy.

    • Good players are helpful, no matter where they play.

      But here’s the thing: I’d rather have a great pass rush and bad corners than great corners and a bad pass rush, or even great corners and an ok pass rush.

      If you hit the QB early and often, bad CB play gets masked. If you can’t hit the QB, the best CBs in the world won’t make a lick of difference.

      It’s why guys in the secondary could shine in SF and suck elsewhere. Same for the SEA guys who left and busted.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Von Miller or Charles Woodson?

        • I’d rather have 1 Von Miller than 3 Charles Woodson’s, and it’s not even a difficult decision.

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            that’s very silly and very wrong.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Boy, you planted your flag on that. Hyperbole much?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            3 Woodsons on an otherwise completely average NFL team, and I’d bet good money on a championship. That dude was a beast.

          • no, I’m serious. Von Miller scares QBs. That’s the only way to slow an offense down these days.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            In his prime, Woodson was an interception machine, while also productive at pressuring the qb on blitzes. And he was a tackling maniac. Numbers don’t lie. He was just as scary in 2006-2010 as von Miller is now, if not more so because if his versatility. One on one is debatable. A nickel unit of him vs one pass rusher specialist? Pure bollocks.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You’d rather have one great player than three? Wow. Over to that side of the GM line with Jeff there, Woodsy.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        OTOH, as we have seen when Peppers was here his first year and showed up to play:

        If your corners are so shit they can’t bump the slant or play so far off the hook route is a gimme, then all the rush in the world don’t mean shit when Vadgers can release in 2 and go for 10.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s true. How many times have you heard Frazier or Richardson ever mentioned in the ’85 defense?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Given their high salaries, it is probably a good enough reason to draft a corner at 11.

      That the passing game on offense is being supported by rule changes, puts even MORE of a premium on top quality corners. And we need one badly. W Jax III is a great pick for us. But a smaller Hargreaves is not.

  • beninnorcal

    I’ll be pretty disappointed if we don’t get a DEFENSIVE playmaker with our first pick of this draft. I’m not gonna lie. An OT or RB would be cool and all, but I want someone who’ll turn this D up.

    • If one of the top 2 OTs is there, I’d be thrilled with that pick. Pair him with Long and Grasu and you have 3 good young guys on the OL.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I assume you mean Tunsil or Stanley…not Tunsil or Conklin.

        • yes, the top 2 OTs in the draft.

          • Big Mike

            Stanley seems to me to be an unknown version of Leno.

          • he’s not much of an unknown, IMO. He’s a very polished and proven pass protector.

            Stephen White, a former DE in the NFL, did a great breakdown of why he thinks Stanley is the best OT in the draft this year: http://www.sbnation.com/2016/3/28/11184656/2016-nfl-draft-breakdown-ronnie-stanley-notre-dame-laremy-tunsil

            Basically, what Stanley did at ND translates to the NFL. So many OT busts in recent years did things in college that didn’t translate, and were drafted based on incredible athleticism. Stanley already showed the necessary footwork and technique to succeed in the NFL at ND.

            His worst case scenario is a better Charles Leno. Similar in that he’s a better pass blocker than run blocker, but less bad at run blocking (Leno is TERRIBLE there) and better at pass blocking.

            I’m very happy with Leno as a 3rd OT. I’m not happy with Leno starting and no clear backup (Kyle Long, Bobbie Massie, Tayo Fabuluje have never played LT).

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Would you still be happy if he turns into the 3rd OT, not a starter at either spot? Just curious.

          • If somebody they draft at 11 can’t beat out one of Leno or Massie, I would either be really happy (they both look a lot better than they’ve played in their careers to this point) or really pissed (this dude’s a scrub).

            To me, Massie and Leno are both borderline starting OTs. You can get away with one of those guys as starters. Having two starting to bookend your line is very risky. An OT picked at 11 should be the best OT on this roster day 1 (unless they move Long back outside, which doesn’t seem likely. It still pisses me off that they moved their best OT inside to OG).

          • Irish Sweetness

            Stanley is barely 300lbs. With a wear under his belt, at 350lbs I want to see Tayo get his shot. That means we’d be drafting a guy at 11 who really shouldn’t be starting. Probably.

            If we’re not drafting D at 11, I hope it’s a RB. Carimis are expensive mistakes, and I don’t recall too many people hating his pick.

          • DaMurph

            He’s 22 years old , weighs 315 and with training will improve his upper body and put another 10 or 15 in muscle on top of the 315. To me 315 is not barely 300.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But who is the second best OT?

    • MB30SD

      turdnt up

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        ternt?

    • Sactowns#1

      I think the vast majority of us are hoping we get a solid defensive contributor but most of us would be cool with any immediate impact player. What I DONT want to see is another project or a non starter (WR, QB, LB) getting drafted in the first 3 rounds.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • CanadaBear

      Not sure I believe the report but no doubt Pro Bike Racing in Europe is filled with cheaters. Their rep is so bad sponsors are drying up. The governing body is desperately trying to change the image for obvious reasons. Unlike the last regime that went to extreme lengths to protect Lance, Cookson knows if he doesn’t get things cleaned up all the sponsors will go away.

    • willbest

      Thermal scans really are the only way to buy a house any more.

  • CanadaBear

    Here’s a nice piece about the draft and how the big trade affects the Bears (in a good way).

    http://nfcnbarroom.com/paxton-lynch-chicago-bears-draft-intrigue/

    • willbest

      7th time since 1990? So its traded over 25% of the time. Was it regularly traded before 1990.

      Anyway, still dreaming on Mo. It does guarantee 2 QBs going in the top 10 which frees up other positions.

      • CanadaBear

        I thought it was a well thought out piece. I’d love to see the Bears leverage that pick.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Is it too much to ask that when people put up defensive back numbers that we get the defended %, so there’s some context? I mean, did people just quit throwing at him? Or did he drop off?
    I do think it is nuts to say, well if he was two inches taller…well, he’s not, and he’s not going to be.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I think the tech writers who are yelling today about how Netflix is doomed now that Amazon has added a monthly subscription model to their streaming video are missing the forest for the trees. It’s all about a la carte video services. Amazon also has add-on subscriptions for specific demographics.
    It’s not Netflix that is doomed, assuming they continue to expand their original content…it’s cable.

    • MB30SD

      Cable was already a Deadman walking. Just a matter of time

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I wish I got to be a tech journalist for a day.

        • MB30SD

          you can be… it’s called a b-l-o-g.

          check it out yo

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Good point. How do I get on the myspace?

          • Sactowns#1

            I believe the internet is a series of tubes.. so you just have to follow the correct tube and you should be there.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Their death grip on the industry is the large swaths of the country where they control the data pipelines, and in my case, it’s just one vendor. At least on the coast I had options like FiOS, etc. In my suburb, it’s Cox or it’s dial-up. Nothing else.

    • willbest

      Amazons interface is still awful. Original content also seems like a loss for these guys, so someone is going to have to make it, and that person is going to want a premium for first run.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        It’s not about the interface, although I wonder what platform you’re using… it’s the content. Amazon is willing to invest in it, and they are doing some innovative things in the sourcing side. This is all about changing the market and killing the traditional box top providers.

        • willbest

          Jobs saved Apple from the dustbin of history by taking products that already existed and imbuing them with style and usability. I find it impossible to believe that anybody in tech would think that the interface isn’t important at this point.

          Are you a remnant from the emacs vs vi war?

          And take your pick, fire stick, ps3, tablet apps, native software in my TV. They all work the same. It intermixes paid stuff and stuff in your subscription, it breaks TV shows up by season which needlessly propagates your recommendations, and on recommendations they aren’t particularly useful. Now, I might be inclined to say because I use it a lot less than netflix, then again Amazon knows pretty much every book and DVD that I bought or was bought for me in the last decade so it should have plenty of info to go on.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Just read a piece on Titans trying to jump back in the top 10. If Titans jumped back in I’d think they would go O line or WR. This move would provide an even better chance for a difference making Defender for the beloved.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Think it was GP, but if they manage to hop back just far enough to get Tunsil, they will have won this draft hands down.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        AS you pointed out, the Bears would take Tunsil at 11 if he was there. That’s one of those BPA > position of need things.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I would be fully on board with that move. Tunsil would most likely be a solid addition to the line for years to come making everyone’s life on O easier whether it be Cutty, a new kid, the WR’s, the RB’s, etc.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Jeff’s tweet about 7-J Nkemdiche…I think that synthetic may have permanently sprained his brain.
    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/04/18/robert-nkemdiche-wants-a-pet-panther-because-whats-one-more-thing/

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      “No, it’s not. They’re like cats,” Nkemdiche said. “If someone comes over and is scared, I’ll put the panther away.”

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Said the chick with the chimpanzee…
        Dude is banananananananas.

        • MB30SD

          this is how real people eat they bananas rabbit…

          YEE!

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Of course, I’d take him over Spence any day of the week. Spence is a walking/talking case study for the next draft class orientation week.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I think he got “like” and “eat” mixed up.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Excellent footage of the damage done to Japan

    • Trac

      I wonder if the new world order will still be able to get those European tourists to take them up on their free finger print vacation?

      https://draynehub.wordpress.com/2016/04/12/tourists-to-pay-using-their-fingerprints-in-japan/

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        Here ya go Trac – I got some red meat for ya.

        Obama wants to introduce a bill showing that Saudis financed most of the 9-11 hijackers. Indeed, almost all of them were on a payroll directly funded by a Saudi owned shell company offshore.

        Obama means this, and original bill drafted would allow the families of 9-11 victims to sue the Saudi government in international court.

        http://tinyurl.com/j7pt2bx

        Saudis, as Ledger’s Joker one said – do not like this. not ONE BIT.

        So they threaten to dump 500 billion in US assets onto the Treasury market in one fell swoop.

        So in today’s presser, Josh Earnest the US Press Secretary says that he knows Saudis share our interest in world security, Obama will bury the bill and there will be no further inquiry into the role that Saudi Arabia played in 9-11.

        “It’s stunning to think that our government would back the Saudis over its own citizens,” said Mindy Kleinberg, whose husband died in the World Trade Center on Sept. 11 and who is part of a group of victims’ family members pushing for the legislation.

        It’s not, really, Mindy. You just need to understand that as a US citizen, your life and the life of your lost husband really don’t matter. Because we sold out Mindy. Did you not get the memo? Have a nice day, Mindy.

        • willbest

          The high price of Free trade

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I’m trying to think what would happen if 500 to 750 Billion in MBS, Notes and Bonds were sold in a matter of days just as a fuck you. I mean, in theory, we could institute QE: The Next Generation and flip the script on those assholes.
            Someone do the math and let me know how this would work out.

            We could conduct one huge sales call and force our allies to buy some….kind of like a huge Girl Scout Cookie Sell-A-Thon.

          • willbest

            Well the question is what signal gets sent. If the Fed defends the dollar against a 500 billion asset sell off when won’t they? If you are China and Japan are you really going to want to be holding on to trillions of US dollars?

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            All I know is you want to be long gold like a mofo if that happened.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            That Dubai Prince with the Gold Lambo be like, “see, great investment”!!!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Eco post of the year so far

          • Trac

            Choices for gold.

            1) Gold certificates will be worthless if the markets crash. Good luck on cashing them in.
            2) Pre 1930 gold coins won’t do you any good if they get confiscated.
            3) Hope and pray you don’t get selected to stay in a FEMA comfort inn when the shit hits the fan because you won’t be able to spend your money in one of those.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That’s suicide for the Saudis and they know it.

          • Trac

            The only new money that will be printed will be by the World Bank and that will be a huge fu@# you to the whole world. We are being played my man.

        • MB30SD

          Yep

        • Trac

          I believe it’s actually worse than that my friend. Let me present 2 false flag scenario’s.

          1)The Saudi’s want to bail from the petrodollar so bad but they know that if they do, they will be the patsies and the house of Saud will be wiped from the face of the middle east. If they play ball, they get to be a part of the next phase that is about to be implemented by the new world order. In this scenario, the card being used on them is blackmail.

          2)The dice have already been cast and this is all a prelude to the financial crash that is coming. The new world order has chosen Saudi Arabia as a new world order power base in which the zionists will gain greater control of Saudi Arabia in order to implement their final plan of a global take over. I believe these muslim refugee’s are being shipped all around the world as part of a greater diabolical plan.

          • CanadaBear

            The vast majority of Syrian refuges are women and children.

          • Trac

            It’s being done to create civil and social discord amongst citizens of sovereign countries in western civilization. How many of these people are being shipped to china and russia? No my man, this is being done to destabilize nationalism and cause social unrest within society.

            http://thinkprogress.org/security/2013/09/03/2562291/russia-china-syria-aid/

  • Doc Nitty

    ugh.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    I just read a mock draft for the Bears that had us taking, and I’m not kidding….:
    1. Ezekiel Elliot. A running back.
    2. Braxton Miller. A quarterback turned WR.
    3. Carl Nassib. A white defensive end that underwhelmed in college.
    Please tiny 8lb baby jesus grant me the patience and acceptance of a football saint so I do not attack Bryan Perez on twitter with the wrath of the Ghost of Halas.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      You know Halas’ ghost is a mean SOB. Like, when you are dead you can portray your own ghost at any age, and Halas chooses to be 65 again. If you tried to contact him via Ouija he would slap the oracle off the board and tell you to grow a pair and go outside and play like people should.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Hoping that the Ghost of Halas has not joined the real ghost of Halas.

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          Haven’t seen him in ages.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Been several years now I think.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          sorry man, I think he’s gone. They’re probably up in football heaven not letting younger ghosts drink any fucking water after running sprints because back in my day we didn’t drink water like pansies and we didn’t fornicate the month before the season because everyone knows the devil woman steals your energy and focus.

          • DaMurph

            True dat!!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        God: Papa Bear, you’re an angel now you don’t need those huge coke bottle glasses. Your eyesight is now perfect as is your spirit.
        Halas: Don’t tell me how to wear my glasses you sunbitch. I oughta tan your hide and you’d better run those laps and no fucking water for you and your candy ass angels.
        God: I’m sorry.

    • MB30SD

      I just read a mock where we take floyd. With hargraves and a ton of other talent on the board.

      They also have the chargers taking ramsey over tunsil. Seriously?! I think rivers would drive over to the war room and throw a prolonged one of these if that happens: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQbC9gVXWdw

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        If it’s over an hour, it’ll be too far for him to drive.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        haha, the Broncos made fun of him so much that game after that.

    • That Guy

      I actually like Nassib as a third rounder. He’s a converted player that’s still gaining weight. Not a first round talent, but he’s got the same work ethic and football IQ that made Kyle Long a good pickup.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        I’ve been hurt by too many white players. Unless there are stories of him breaking the necks of cattle, tilling an entire cornfield at age 14 with civil war era farming tools because it’s all his family could afford or fighting black bears for freshly caught salmon in the Appalachian Mountain Range I don’t want any more White players on my team.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          What about jumping out of a pool?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            a pool of sharks then yes….then jumping back in to fight them at an Alabama carnival.

        • DaMurph

          You talkin bout Jordy Nelson? Cause hes hurt us time and time again!!!!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Jordy Nelson was constructed in a lab by Monsanto and married the girl he had dated since 7th grade. Jordy Nelson is not yo average cracker. He’s put together differently. He’s got country hunger.

          • DaMurph

            True Dat !! His genes aint all cracker! Haha!

    • Irish Sweetness

      I’m surprised nobody wants Elliott. We do not have an Elliott. We need an Elliott. He gives us the best stable of backs in the NFL bar none. You can draft him and have a top talent for years to come, or roll the dice on one of two OTs.

  • Doc Nitty

    Just now finally took a look at the schedule.

    I would like to apologize in advance to my kids for not taking them trick or treating this year. Sorry boys, Daddy loves you, but not that much.

    • Sactowns#1

      Hmmm…thank you for bringing this to my attention. As Halloween is one of my favorite holidays I will be sure to get my all hallows eve celebrations out of my system before Monday night.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        what are you going to go as this year for Halloween? A slutty ghost perhaps? A sexy black cat? A cocksucking physicians assistant? I love Halloween.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I would go as a lucky sonofabitch with a passport.

        • Cormonster

          I’m thinking of going as Jackie Treehorn this Halloween.

          • CanadaBear

            Just saw TBL the other day. It still made me laugh like crazy.

          • Doc Nitty

            🙁

        • CanadaBear

          I was in Calgary a few years ago and a busload on a Halloween Pub Crawl came into the bar (I was with my Honey Bunny). There were at least a dozen pussy cats and naughty nurses. Unfortunately no cocksucking physicians assistants. I desperately wanted to join the pub crawl but my HB had other ideas.

        • MB30SD

          Sorry, I will not miss all the horny, naughty, ‘it’s Halloween and I can dress and act like a slut for one night’ titties and asses… for a football game. Any football game.

          I have my fucking priorities on straight.

        • DaMurph

          Because its my birthday?

          • Doc Nitty

            Halloween is your bday? I can’t decide if that would be a good thing or a thunder-stealing thing to have your bday on the Ween. Do tell.

          • DaMurph

            Both! When I was young it was pretty cool, when I had young kids it sucked!!! Now it seems to be a conversation starter.

          • Doc Nitty

            You used to be young?!?!

          • DaMurph

            I cant remember. Haha!

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            NO WAY! But I really dont need the money. I know this guy from South Africa and If you have nice titties he may be interested in a proposal from you.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Big (6’6″) – Check
    Large (305) – Check
    Nasty. Check.
    Exceptionally long arms (35 inches). Check
    Spartan. Check.

    Jack Conklin coming into this draft? No. Tony Mandarich coming into his.

    • Sactowns#1

      No love for Irish Jack Conklin hu?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I must google and see if there is any video of Mandarich’s college games.

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          He was a bulldozer.

          He was destroying 260 lb guys like Mark Messner and running them off the field. But then the NFL said “no more roids for you”, and he deflated like an old mylar balloon.

          • Blackhawks63

            So by your bass ackwards rationale Conklin is on steroids? Guess what. You also win meatball of the month.

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            Do I? From you?

            That’s like Manson calling Jimmy Burke unhinged. Now go get your shinebox and watch the Blues deliver the knockout.

          • Big Mike

            Nice having you here. It was simply a point that measurables can lie.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I think you touched a nerve, GP.

          • DaMurph

            He ended up being a solid guard in Indy for a while. He sure looked like the real thing playing college ball though! The Boz of offensive linemen

    • Blackhawks63

      Good grief. The metrics you just laid out describe a crap ton of Offensive Tackles coming out of college each year. Just because Mandarich and Conklin came out of East Lansing 30 years apart DOES NOT make for much of a comparison. You win the meatball fan of the week, and it’s only Monday.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        go back inside. the kids are not going to hurt your lawn, let them play.

        • That Guy

          I have to agree with Blackhawk on this one. GP is capable of much more insightful criticism of Jeff’s draft’s analysis.

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            The point was – stats are just stats. History can repeat itself.

            Also, I didn’t want to miss an opportunity to slam the Spartans.

            If that wins me a razzie from a knuckle dragger like Blackhawks63, I wear it with pride.

      • Big Mike

        No.. The point is sometimes the measurables are wrong. This wasn’t a comparison, it was a sanity check. The book on Conklin is that he is slow footed and will be eaten up by speed rushes. If you took the best of Stanley and Conklin, You’re looking at the perfect prospect. The knock on Stanley is upper body strength. If I had to train up an OT, I’d take the fast footed agile kid, over the mauler at the NFL level.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          it was also a clever and light hearted way to bring those points up. I like to laugh while Blackhawks63 likes to stomp on funboners. It’s just the way it is.

          • Big Mike

            Of course it was. You could have picked a dozen combine HOF OTs that washed out. Mandarich is just the most famous.

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            Now that BillW has moved on since being inducted into Hyde Park’s smoker club, we need somebody to be Eeyore.

    • Big Mike

      Oh..noooo

    • AlbertInTucson

      2nd overall pick in 1989.

      Possibly THE most famous Packer 1st round flame-out?

      • AlbertInTucson

        To pick Mandarich that year, the Packers passed on Barry Sanders, Derek Thomas and Deion Sanders.

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          their great shame.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • Sactowns#1

      Ooof. Looks like he has a tough time with those speedy edge rushers.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “If he were two inches taller…”

    and if your Aunt had a pair….

  • Am i missing something? Conklin by most accounts projects as a day 1 RT who could un a pinch play LT.

    The only real question w him imo is whether getting the best RT is good value at 11.

    Of course depends who else is on the board.

    Both Leno and Massie are huge question marks, but POX may like both more than the fans. Wouldn’t be the first time.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      getting the best RT is good value at 11.

      Here’s the 2013 breakdown of O lineman. It was notable as the OL draft, more OL got taken that draft in the 1st than it any other – and it was supposed to – at the time – be some sort of harbinger of a tidal shift but I found that to be mostly rhetoric and I think most of us thought so at the time. BR called it a “disaster draft”, but here’s the OL breakdown:

      Eric Fisher – Rocky rocky start, last year he held down the Chiefs LT spot and ultimately is a solid NFL Pro – not charting for a Pro Bowl studded career but a decent pro. They should have taken Johnson 1.

      Luke Joeckel – Not good
      http://blackandteal.com/2016/02/23/box-beyond-joeckel/

      Lane Johnson – Top Pro. Big contract renewal.

      Jonathan Cooper – Injury as a rook, never the same guy.

      Chance Warmack – Started 16 games in 2 seasons. Always banged up.

      DJ Fluker – Chargers like Fluker and he’s pretty solid inside.

      Kyle Long – We know.

      Travis Frederick – Panned as a 3rd round grade, Cowboy fans hated the pick but he’s started all 3 years and is being called one of the best Cowboy centers already by fans.

      So that’s a pretty mixed bag. The same on D. I don’t see any game changers in there beyond Long, and maybe Johnson, and so I would say there were three guys outta 8 deserving of the 1st round pick.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Nice.

        Applying the same to this year’s draft, there’s Tunsil, who’ll probably be good, and then two other guys from lower rounds that will work out. History and gut feeling suggests it won’t be Stanley or Conklin.

      • Yeah, i think i mentioned b4 how selecting’ safe’ LTs hasn’t exactly panned out. Maybe that’s part of the rationale behind Titans trading out.

        But to me, Conklin is a RT, emergency LT .

        If Conklin is a 10 yr starter at RT, is that worth #11?

        That’s a tough one. As Data pointed out, teams get by w one subpar ot, but when they’re both sucked, Qbs get hurt.

        Right now we’re starting two huhe question marks at ot.

        Conklin would be an upgrade over Massie, and who knows, maybe even Leno.

        Or worse case scenario, moves to OG while Long kicks back out.

        Nit totally buying him at 11, but i can see the rational

  • Jack Lacan

    No one will hit Bosa because their kneecaps are vulnerable.

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