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The Chicago Bears Big Board by Andrew Dannehy

| March 22nd, 2016

Jan 12, 2015; Arlington, TX, USA; Ohio State Buckeyes running back Ezekiel Elliott (15) runs with the ball against Oregon Ducks defensive back Erick Dargan (4) during the first quarter in the 2015 CFP National Championship Game against the Oregon Ducks at AT&T Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Matthew Emmons-USA TODAY Sports

The Bears almost certainly have their own big board made up and, while we have no idea who is on it or where they land, this is my best guess.

First, a few things I considered:

• Every GM says they’ll take the best player available and I’m sure they intend to do just that. But in their ideal world the best player available would also fill a need. So, yes, need was a priority.

• I don’t pretend to be a scout, so most of these ranks are based on consensus combined with what I know about what the Bears prefer.

• The Bears prefer players with long arms. Look at pretty much every player they have brought in. Arm length is a big deal to them. Players who might be rated highly, but would have to be exceptions for the Bears include Shaq Lawson and Vernon Hargreaves. Maybe they’d make an exception for either of those players but I’m not betting on it.

• Ryan Pace always talks about explosive playmakers, so I gave preference to guys who either hurt the other team’s quarterback or help the Bears.

• I hate when people say he’s not going to be there but, for the purpose of this, I eliminated players who pretty much everyone thinks will be picked before the Bears are on the clock. They include: Laremy Tunsil, Joey Bosa, Myles Jack and Jalen Ramsey.

Without further adieu…

Bears Big Board

1. DeForest Buckner, DL, Oregon. There isn’t a more perfect fit for what the Bears need and want right now. He’d give them three good defensive linemen who can stop the run and provide at least some pass rush.

2. Ezekiel Elliott, RB, Ohio State. We learned the Bears are in the running back market when they went after C.J. Anderson. Elliott is this year’s “best running back since Adrian Peterson.” He is the complete package.

3. Emmanuel Ogbah, Edge, Oklahoma State. Dude put on a show at the combine, forcing people to take a closer look. The consensus opinion seems to be he’s going to be able to get after the quarterback, but may not be an every down player. Sounds a lot like Aldon Smith coming out.

4. Leonard Floyd, Edge, Georgia. There is no consensus on Floyd. Some don’t think he’s strong enough and compare him to Dion Jordan. Others say he got after the quarterback when asked, but showed versatility, running with wide receivers down the field. Might be a bit slender for the Bears, but could be a great chess piece for Vic Fangio.

5. A’Shawn Robinson, DL, Alabama. Robinson is like an Algebra equation. The known variable is that he can step in and stop the run from Day One. The question is if he can get after the quarterback. Some question his athleticism but those same questions were raised with Eddie Goldman. The comparison is valid because like Goldman, Robinson is going to be just 21 years old as a rookie. The Bears have one of the best defensive line coaches in the NFL. If anyone can coax pass-rush out of him, it’s Jay Rodgers.

6. William Jackson III, CB, Houston. I have no idea if the Bears value the cornerback position enough to take one in the first round, but if they do, WJ3 could be their guy. He’s raw, but he has everything you could want in terms of athleticism and ball skills. The Bears have one of the best secondary coaches in the league in Ed Donatell and he could make Jackson elite. Fangio hasn’t typically valued this position.

7. Jason Spriggs, OT, Indiana or Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State. The consensus second tackle is Ronnie Stanley, but I’m not sure the Bears will like him as much as Spriggs or Conklin due to his lack of power and questions about how much he loves the game. The Bears are content with Charles Leno Jr., but they’d like an upgrade and don’t want him matched up against Clay Matthews, Ziggy Ansah and Everson Griffen for six games every year. Conklin and Spriggs are raw, but great athletes.

8. Kevin Dodd, DE, Clemson. Has the size and length the Bears want. Not a great athlete, but good enough. Big enough to play any number of positions, especially with the Bears size on the defensive line and speed at linebacker.

9. Sheldon Rankins, DL, Louisville. Doesn’t have ideal height, but has exceptionally long arms for his size. A penetrator who could fit well with their bigger defensive linemen.

10. Carson Wentz, QB, One of the Dakotas. Hey, it’s possible. And if they’re going to grab a QB, they might as well grab one with elite physical skills. Wentz could sit behind Cutler for a couple of years and step into a good situation once they have the rest of their team built.

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  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Make a splash Gase. Just don’t pick a running back.
    Round 2 if he’s still there somehow you pick Jaylon Smith and sit him for the year. Generational talent that just needs to rehab. It’s a long play but it can be done and it will help change the franchise for years.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I’d take a 3rd round flyer on him…depends on how he does today (it is his pro day, isn’t it?)

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        he will be picked in the beginning of the 2nd round despite being very hurt. He was that good.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He’s not likely to play this year at all though, is he?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I don’t think so. It will be the steal of the draft though so if you can pick up another veteran as a stopgap and get this kid in a Bears uniform it would be a game changer.

    • Trac

      We don’t have that luxury this year. Pass.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        I think we do have that luxury. In the 2nd round you’re going to get a rookie anyway which is a crapshoot. Why not bring in an experienced vet, sign a guy like Jaylon who plays like a damned cheetah and let him recover? What do you have to lose?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          We have a long and rich tradition of drafting guys with pre-existing injuries, so I’m all for it.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, this time we’ll let him rest for a year.

          • SC Dave

            But we just did that with our first rounder

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Dodd has bust written all over him.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    If we pick 11, and you took 4 guys off the top (which, you know…whatever)…why have a 10-person Big Board?
    Just saying.

    • willbest

      If you have 4 guys left at 11 and 14th pick is looking to move up, you lose nothing

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Yeeeeeeah.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    The 4th ranked CB prospect in the draft and consensus bottom of the 1st round pick, he’s on our big board?
    I doubt it.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene
    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Jerrah loves his running backs…keep seeing Zeke projected to go to them.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        I can’t see Jack slipping past 5.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Jack has shown up going to Jacksonville in most of the recent mocks I’ve seen. Either way, booooo.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            if Jacksonville was smart they’d keep bolstering that defense. Dante Fowler is back as well

    • Irish Sweetness

      Then we get Zeke.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis
    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Ok, Pace thought highly enough of him to bring him in so let’s see what the Saints do.

      • Sactowns#1

        He doesn’t have much of a stat line but if he’s a good blocker lets take him and spell the Zach Attack when needed.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          6’5 250 pass catcher that Pace has always liked? Sign me up.

    • Trac

      Let’s see if Pace raised the ante high enough. Fingers crossed.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Derrick Henry combine….for Irish to molest himself to.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWezkF7ke6w

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      His left foot sticks out funny when he runs, during drills, etc.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        If you could short the Derrick Henry market you’d be rich!

    • SC Dave

      Oh gawd… combine? Who gives a single fragment of a piece of shit? Oh wait… Irish will!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Who are you sending in on 3rd and 2 this year Dave?

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          3rd and 2???? Langford or Carey. That was the whole point of having those two in on short yardage and goal line because they go all out to get that first down and run low and hit the hole hard. Remember when the coaches started putting them both in the backfield, using Carey at FB, putting in Unrein, using the 3rd Tackle????

          Irish, we already have the short yardage guys on the roster and they’re playing for CHEAP.

    • Sactowns#1

      I think you mean the SLAVE AUCTION!! lol

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        the only slave who ever finished his 40yd dash, looked at his 4.52 time and exclaimed, “lordy! Imma be one rich slave. Working for little to no food, getting whipped and torn from my family….I mean 2nd round money is good and all and by getting whipped I mean buying a whip and by torn from my family I mean be able to put my little brothers and sisters through school since I’m now paid more than double the salary of Barack Obama. Man, this slavery thing is cruel.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If we approach the quest for a Lombardi with balance in mind, then we just made three big defensive signings. Imagine getting Conklin/Stanley in round one, then Henry in round two.

      The opposite of that argument : the 2015 Denver Broncos.

  • The GP Experiment

    I think Pace will take Buckner if he’s there, and if not – then Robinson.

    Hargreaves is also up there as a CB.

  • Sactowns#1

    If we take a QB in the first round I will shit a Twinkie, then scoop it up and fling it around the room like an enraged ape.

    • SC Dave

      What if, within three years, he’s the best Bears QB ever with 15 years to go?

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        it won’t mean shit if we don’t fix the D. The Defense was the worst it’s ever been and only several drafts and free agency periods will fix it. If we don’t fix the D and make it an asset we’ll sit back and say we wasted a good QB.

        The Packers have squandered Rodgers. Travesty. If they weren’t so inbred and backwards up in GB they’d realize that.

        • willbest

          I expect a top 12 defense this year otherwise why bring in Fox and Vic

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            That would be an accomplishment. I’d be happy with them somewhere in the teens.

            We still need a premier pass rusher (or two) to be around 12.

            Then again, looking at this list, who knows?

            http://espn.go.com/nfl/statistics/team/_/stat/total/position/defense

            What we absolutely have to improve is pass rush, lb coverage, INTs and points allowed.

            If we progress in those depts, I’ll be very happy.

          • CanadaBear

            Pass rush is a work in progress but McPhee, Houston and Willie can bring it. Really need a DE or two, I think LB coverage overall is now more of a depth issue. Have no idea about INT’s with this group. I don’t think the Bears scored on D last year. If they draft a stud on D (no matter the position) in the first rd, I think their D will be top half.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            The way I see, right now we our best pass rusher is like a B+ guy. Very good, but not super dominant. And that’s important because as Irish likes pointing out, Fangio really doesn’t blitz. It’s 3 down linemen, + pass rusher (usually McPhee), so that guy has to get pressure. It’s kinda like Lovie needing that ONE guy, like Harris or Peppers (while everyone else chips in here and there).

            Hopefully, Mchphee, Houston and Young can step it up, but we’ll see.

            The LB coverage got instantly better. Trev is very good at that, and that other one, I’m not too sure of, but he was ranked highly overall. No matter what, it’s better than Jones and Shea having footballs whiz by their helmets.

            The INTs and turnvovers in general have to pick up, but sometimes those are a bit fluky. We roster OK secondary, but no ballhawks. Even Tim Jennings at his best was more of a ballhawk than any guy we have in our secondary now.

            Maybe that’ll change with another year in the system and hopefully more pressure, but I feel we definitely have to improve in that dept.

            In some ways, Irish is right. Fangio, like Lovie, is kinda conservative.

            He doesn’t like giving up the big play (staple of the cover 2), and he seems to teach fundamentals maybe at the expense of that splash play.

            Fangio does seem excel in having the guys ready and making adjustments though.

            He’s got the track record, so gotta give him the benefit of the doubt. But in order to reach that top 12, Ds gotta improve in those categories (PPG being naturally the most important).

          • Irish Sweetness

            My biggest fear – getting a solid defense in there, full of studs … and then he still doesn’t blitz … trying not to “give up the big play”

            F**k that. Bring the pressure more often than not, and good things will happen. Just not for the offense.

          • CanadaBear

            Let’s give him a chance with some good players. If a couple of these guys can get home on a consistent basis, pretty sure Fangio will be sending them. It was like sending #54 on the blitz in the second half of his career. It seemed like he never got there.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A stud OLB and DE is all we need for good success this year. Add some depth to that next year, with a S and a CB .. super bowl defense.

          • willbest

            If Emery can put a top 5 offense on the field in 2 years, Pox should be able to get a top third D in 2 years

          • Irish Sweetness

            If Fangio can’t get a tune out of this banjo ….

      • willbest

        Best Bears QB ever could be Cam Newton, you taking him at 11 when you have Cutler for 5 more years.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          you are assuming Cutler will play for another 5 years, with his history of injury and his diabetes, who knows he may up and retire in 2 years.

          • willbest

            True, but I think the guy genuinely wants a SB, because if he didn’t he already has made something like $96 million.

      • Sactowns#1

        What if this is a computer program and we’re all just living in the matrix?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      If you can shit twinkies, you have a future on Broadway.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        or on webcams.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      been there done that, just leaves a mess to clean up.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      It would, I suppose, be better than the collective “wait, who???” that we all uttered when Mclellin got picked. But not by much.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I will follow that twinkie by coughing up two testicles and placing them beside the shitty twinkie, and place it on the DBB bar menu as “The Aristocats” and recommend it to Cheesy.

      No. Quarterbacks.

  • Trac

    Pretty sure Buckner is gonna be a Bear. Barring a trade, I think he’ll be there at the 11 spot.

    • The GP Experiment

      Is he giving you a John Thierry vibe?

      • Trac

        I’m dreaming of the line we’ll have with him on board. It’s shivering me timber.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      He might. Some teams view him as a “project”, and teams normally shy away from projects in the top 10 (unless they’re QBs)

      Kinda like Armstead last draft. He went #17 to the 9ers.

      http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2456614-san-francisco-49ers-ranking-the-10-2015-draft-picks/page/5

    • Irish Sweetness

      6’7 – do we move him to end? Does it matter?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Shaq Lawson getting medical reevaluation of his shoulder in April?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      ruh roh.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        April 15th – guess we’ll find out then whether he’s a possibility or not.

  • MB30SD

    I’m just so goddamned ecstatic not to hear jon hoke’s name used for this article!

  • TBC

    Hmmm…. QB with “Elite physical skills”

    Where have I heard that before?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Who wants to play, “what coach gets blamed this year for lack of Packer Post Season Success?”
      Tell him what he’s won Johnny!

      This tool in my office is already making excuses why the Packers are going to shit the bed and probably end up missing the playoffs.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        who got blamed last year? was it their WR coach?

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I think it was the special teams and LB coach.

          • BC

            One of them was definitely the RB coach because Eddie Lacy was FAT!

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          the best was when NFL analysts would say that Rodgers didn’t have any WR’s around him…except, uh, every single one of them except Jordy Nelson.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            If it wasn’t for offsides free plays, the Pack O would’ve been worse than the Vikes.

      • TBC

        Yeah man, those Packers. Sooo unsuccessful! How embarrassing.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          It’s all relative. To have one of the best QB’s of all time and to be that unsuccessful in putting talent around him to actually be more than the regular season champ has to hurt just a little.

          • TBC

            The NFL is about 95 years old and the Packers have been champions only 13 times. That percentage is safely below the Mendoza line. However, the packers have won more championships than every other team in NFL history.

            Absolute success? I guess not.
            Relative success? You betcha.

            I guess you’re right. It is all relative.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            You betcha? You sound like Todd Palin. As a Bears fan it feels good to see this window of Bears coaching and GM ineptitude as well as talent deficiencies coming to an end. It was like the Bears brass were gladly handing victories away. That time has ended. Sadly for the Vikings, Packers and Lions (notice i said Vikings first) there will be far less Carimi’s, McClellins, Glen Freys, Brandon Hardens, Jon Bostics and instead actual draft picks. No more Tice, Trestman and Emery to kick around. The NFL moves in cycles and it seems your boy Ted has completely wasted the Rodgers window. To simply not bring in several pieces to put the Packers over the top has been tough to watch as a fan of football.

            Yes, the Packers do win games when Rodgers plays like a maniac and everything else goes perfectly. Sadly that was not the case this past year and he simply played well. The team around him although homegrown and the pride of Thompson underperformed when it counted and playoff success was not to be had….and they blamed it on the playcalling and the guy that tapes peoples ankles.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            damn it feels good to get back into it Cheesy now get a fucking handle and strap yourself in. Email addresses are free nowadays.

          • CanadaBear

            Erin actually looked mortal last year and not because of the cast around him. I know it made a difference but he just wasn’t the same guy against the Beloved in the second game. The Fudgies treating the Bears like a homecoming opponent really lit a fire under the team.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I think he had a tricky knee but that’s the way it goes sometimes. Fuck’em. He is a true talent but as that stellar skill recedes into just being pretty damn great the Pack will fade even further….and sadly fat wives will be beaten and multitudes of deer shot by angry men and boys of wisconsin.

          • CanadaBear

            If they don’t win another one with Erin (and I don’t think they will) they will have won 2 SB’s with 25+ consecutive years of HOF QBing. That’s gotta eat at their fans.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            When Brady retires, Vadgers will go to NE.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Can’t see him leaving GB

          • CanadaBear

            It would be fascinating to see him face a tough media.

          • Scharfinator

            What? NE media blows Brady 24/7. They can’t get his dick out of their mouths to ask any questions.

          • CanadaBear

            Brady has been “slightly”!!!!! more successful than Erin. I get the NE media being in Brady’s pocket after all those SB’s. I don’t get the national media giving Erin a pass every time he comes up short. The GB media is always going to go down on their team.

          • TBC

            Should I save this post and show it back to you at the end of the season? Or should I just go back and get all the dumb stuff you said over the previous 5 off seasons and show those to you now?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Save the post Cheese. Save it next to your fake stock certificate.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Except for who? And with two HOF QBs in the last 25 years, while we’ve suffered through quite possibly the worst streak of quarterback play (until 2009 at least) of any franchise in the NFL. Congratulations on having a GM that gives evidently no shits.
            Just either STFU or go buy a Bears jersey already.

          • TBC

            The 1st quarterback was a backup quarterback that was traded for. The 2nd quarterback was selected at the end of the 1st round while the 1st quarterback was still 5 years from his ultimate retirement.

            I don’t need to go on about how big ted’s balls had to have been for him to draft Rodgers when he did and stick with him when he did. If you can’t recognize the credit Ted Thompson deserves for the packers’ quarterback position, there’s not much I – or anyone else – can do to help you understand anything about anything; you’re lost.

            Every single team had a shot to get Brett Favre. Almost every team had a shot to get Aaron Rodgers.

            This is not Peyton manning to Andrew luck. This is much much different. During Favre’s tenure, the packers also cranked out Matt hasselbeck, Aaron Brooks, and Mark Brunell among others. They even had Kurt Warner in camp.

            The packers know what they are doing at the quarterback position. Obviously it’s not always going to be this good, and it probably will never be THIS good again….but it’s not like they got lucky and it’s just their turn to have a good QB. They deserve all the credit in the world.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh jebus, like Aaron Rodgers got plucked from obscurity? It was a fluke he was available that late and you know it. The guy was discussed as the overall #1 pick that year. It didn’t take a genius.
            They deserve NO credit for actually doing anything with either guy.
            One more time – 25+ years of HOF talent at the QB position and 2 rings.
            Nice work to your front office and bloviating, one cheesburger from a stroke, incompetent head coach.

          • TBC

            lol

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            Trent Penis Dilfer has as many rings as Rodgers.

          • CanadaBear

            Wasn’t it Ron Wolf that did the heavy lifting on Favre? And yes it’s true a lot of teams had a shot at Erin, he fell directly into GB’s lap no matter how you slice it. Took some stones to take him but it was amazing luck he was still there.

          • Sactowns#1

            It sure wasn’t Garret Wolfe doing any heavy lifting for anyone.

          • TBC

            He fell into everyone’s lap. Thompson was the only one to take the bait…even when he was risking much more (it was the first draft pick of his career!) than many of the GMs ahead of him were.

  • chitownproud85

    ..he said penetrator.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Ok, Blog Bets will be taken for Packers assistant/positional coach to be fired after this season:
    I’ll let Irish create the lines….
    Offensive Coordinator
    Defensive Coordinator
    Strength and Conditioning Coach
    WR’s coach
    RB’s coach
    TE’s coach
    Offensive Line coach
    Defensive Line coach
    DB’s coach
    Special Teams coordinator
    Special Parlay Bet (combine with any of the above to double your winnings)
    1. Honorary water boy fired who won that contest to guess how long Clay Matthews Hair was
    2. Ted Thompson named by “anonymous sources” as inflexible to bringing in Free Agents
    3. Olivia Munn cheats on Rodgers with ex-member of One Direction…uh I mean Rodgers cheats on Munn with the ex-member of One Direction NTTAWWT

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s about 1000/1 against Olivia Munn because they’re all gay. NTTAWWT.

    • The GP Experiment

      Then there will be a reality show called “Munn’d”

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

    WJ3, in case WD40 doesn’t work.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      There is no reason for him to be in our top 10 list…total mystery to me.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

    Conklin is a VERY tempting option. He’s everything Grassu is not, and played LT.
    A lot of scouts feel he can indeed anchor LT, but even at RT (not entirely sold on Massie), he’d really provide that mauler mentality, esp next to Long.

    • Trac

      If he somehow makes it to the 2nd round them absolutely you take him there.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

    #Bears have signed RFA TE Josh Hill to an offer sheet. It’s a three-year deal. Saints have 5 days to match. (Confirming Trib and ESPN) – Jahns via Jeff

    Very nice. Shazam, biatches!

    POX is just killing it. Good value everywhere.

    After Allen and Green were signed, I became a lil worried.

    Miller and crew aren’t all world, but at least we don’t have to start Rosario or something.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      a little slow today?

    • MB30SD

      Or have a lazy whiny pouty little bitch who doesn’t even try… there is NOTHING worse than that… Devin hester!

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      I think we cut Rosario 2 years ago.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

        Exactly.

        Trivia Tues.

        Anyone remember that HB we rostered for like 3 years who never played? I think he always ended up on IR or something.

        • Sactowns#1

          Curtis Enis?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            No, it was another dude, I think he was samoan or something during the (Martz?) watch (not Manu).

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I’m sure Irish was in love with him.
            Now that I remember his name, I KNOW Irish was in love with him.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Will Taʻufoʻou

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            Winner winner chicken dinner!

            Plz tell me u didn’t remember how to spell his name off the top of ur head lol

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh hell no.

          • CanadaBear

            That ain’t it. It was Harvey Unga.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            oh, yeah, you are right Canada.

            Correction. Who the hell was Ta’ufo’ou then? lol

          • CanadaBear

            I kinda, sorta remember the name but have no idea who he was or if he played for the Beloved.

  • AlbertInTucson

    He didn’t have him on his “He’ll be gone” list so, I think not listing ND OT, Ronnie Stanley, in the Bears top 10 is big oversight.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I love the top of this board. I’d be happy to have Buckner, and just as happy to have Zeke take up the mantle as Bear’s back. At 6’6 Floyd is an interesting piece that could be used as a massive roaming safety in single-high, or just used as a standard OLB. Agree with Al though, Stanley should be in there too. So pumped for this draft.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Fuggit. I looked at a Wentz tape. He looks like the real deal. A mobile Big Ben. Got the touch. Got the laser. Got the rainbow.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7oT3PpE_Rw

    Thing is, he’s gone in slot 2,4 or 7.

    • willbest

      See I watch this tape and I just feel
      1) He is going to get none of those rushing TDs in the NFL.
      2) He half those passes will get picked or batted.

      • BC

        I tend to agree, a lot of his highlights seemed to be chuck and pray or running the option (although we have that in our offense, so he’d fit there).

        • Irish Sweetness

          Wow, that’s not what I saw. Accuracy and every throw in the book. Size. Mobility.
          And he’s just a college boy. He doesn’t have to run his college offense in Chicago, just don’t drop the ball or throw any picks.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s the tricky part, turnovers. I would much prefer a defensive stud. Gotta give Pox credit, they did well enough in FA that we have no idea which way they will go. Emery/Nessman were the same but in a bad way.

    • Ososfan

      Maybe not, a lot of people are saying he MIGHT be available.Btw, Pace said he sees a lot of value in the mid round QB’s for this year, who knows if he has a guy pegged already for day 2 or 3.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Tired of that shit. Just wasted picks, just throwing them away. Fales is okay. We don’t need to spend three years on some new dude just to get him to Fales’ level, after probably cutting Fales. If we did get Wentz, that would actually be pretty exciting – we forget quickly that it’s by far and away the most important position on the team.

  • The GP Experiment

    Jeff – Congrats on all the adware. Hope it pays the bills, fun stuff.

    “10 Photos of Olivia Munn that will blow Aaron’s mind”
    “Rare Photo of Space Alien Enema will change how you think”
    “This weird trick will grow your penis… and your SOUL!”
    “Rare photo of spirit leaving the body shows Polaroid film still has uses”
    “70s Sitcom Stars: See the homeless boxes they live in now!”
    “Apple’s next invention goes up your ass, find out how!”

    • willbest

      Isn’t that the price of disqus

      • The GP Experiment

        yep

    • MB30SD

      Oooooooooh, I wanna grow my penis…. AND my soul!!!!

      • The GP Experiment

        I think those tatted up ladies you see are doing both for you.

        • MB30SD

          So so true gp

    • Ososfan

      Haha!

  • The GP Experiment
    • Trac

      At least we got a draft pick for the turd. Other than that, I hope Bennett is a pain in Belicheat’s ass.

      • CanadaBear

        They deserve each other. Hope it all blows up on them.

        • Ososfan

          Haha for real. I understand him wanting to be paid more but he quit on the team last year. Good riddance!

          • CanadaBear

            Such an ass. Not that we ever hear how these guys get along but I don’t see any teammates shedding any tears.

  • Big Mike

    What do we have another month of this? My guess is everyone here will like every one of these guys plus some others at some point in the next month.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I had a semi for Wentz today.

      • Big Mike

        Well that’s a good day then.. 🙂

        • Irish Sweetness

          Actually, no, it was more like a phantom semi …

          • Big Mike

            tough getting older 🙂

  • MB30SD

    Alright, enough of this 10 guys shit. We all know which 10 guys we want and think will be there.

    Pick ONE.

    Mine is the Shaqwagon. Your turn…

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Darron Lee.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        ha

    • Trac

      Myles Jack. It an happen…can’t it?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Can, probably won’t, but I’d be thrilled if it does.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Nope. It can’t. And factoring in Jaylon Smith, I don’t want the third best LB when I’m picking 11th which is what would happen whoever we picked at LB.

        Getting the best RB in the draft (probably) is hard to pass up if he’s there. But I sure am tired of having Left Tackles that suck. Sandy Bullock knows football, and she said the first cheque you write’s for the mortgage, and the second is for your insurance.

    • Big Mike

      That’s all this exercise is for the next month. Re-hashing the same 10 guys. As if what is written about them is exactly how their careers will play out. I want the one that turns into a pro-bowler.

    • Ososfan

      You know I’ve been on the Deforest Buckner train since forever! Dude is a beast! I hope we get lucky this year!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Shaq Lawson as a what – OLB? He sure as shit is too small to play DE in a 3-4. Couldn’t find any tape of him at the snap, so I can’t see if he has moves. Have you watched him?

      Saw an interview with him though, he’s as dumb as rocks.

      I can’t make my mind up between Stanley, Elliott, Buckner(prolly him) … or taking a flier on Leonard and have him double up as a single-high safety at 6’6 !!

  • 505Bears

    Rams getting Hard Knocks this year. Dodged that bullet

    • BC

      We’re going to get it eventually, I have HBO free for the year, was kinda hoping we’d get it for selfish reasons. Glad we didn’t though, that’s a huge distraction.

      • Big Mike

        Playoff teams don’t have to participate. That’s the best way to avoid the topic.

        • Scharfinator

          I think this would be the preferred method of avoidance 😀

  • Trac

    Could you imagine trying to collect your commissions/bonus if you worked for Jerra Inc.?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/03/23/jerry-jones-more-research-needed-on-football-cte-link/

  • Ososfan

    I don’t know about you fellas but I’m a HUGE A Tribe Called Quest fan and hearing Phife Dawg passed today makes the day kinda suck. Anyways, bear down.

    • Trac

      Who?

      • Ososfan

        Old school Hip-Hop group, Trac.

      • CanadaBear

        Thanks Trac! I had no idea. Sucks getting old!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • CanadaBear

      Not trying to be philosophical but sometimes it’s better when your musical heroes pass away before they get too old. Many of my Blues faves that have managed to live a really long life keep performing and they have pretty much lost it. Don’t blame them for not retiring because what else can they do and most of them need the money. However, it bums me out to see them when they just don’t have it anymore. Sorry about KD. I know how much that can bum you out. Keep on, Keeping on.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    From what I’ve read Conklin’s skillset and physical tools will be much more likely to translate to G at the NFL level. Don’t need him, don’t want him.

    • Trac

      This. Whenever I hear an OT is ranked 3rd OT in the draft, Gabe Carimi and Chris Williams comes to mind.

  • Doc Nitty

    Before I read AD’s piece, a few thoughts on the new rules and other news this morning.

    The 25 yard touchback rule? Why do they HAVE to fuck with my favorite past time, seemingly just to fuck with it?. It aint broke, Roger!!! My first reaction was that it is a contradiction to the previous kickoff change in that the first rule was designed to limit run back opportunities (for safety (cough) reasons) and this will have the opposite effect; Fewer kickers will boot it out of the end zone thus resulting in more run back opportunities. But thinking about it further, it will also discourage the returner from bringing it out of the end zone. So it should be a wash in terms of the number of returns. Which confuses me further because what is the fucking point of the rule change? I don’t get it. Somebody please esplain.

    I like the ejection after two personal fouls rule, I think, I just hope everybody’s clear about what constitutes a personal foul. I don’t like the horse collar expansion rule as I understand it. Can’t grab where now? The rule eliminating chop blocks is okay by me too.

    I find it interesting that the Rams are doing Hard Knocks and going to China immediately after the owners voted for them to move to L.A. over the Raiders and the Bolts. Nobody wanted to do Hard Knocks last year and god knows nobody wants to play in China. The Rams have agreed to do both? Seems shady (no offense Shady).

    • CanadaBear

      You know that was part of the deal for St Louis to get the LA franchise.

    • Sactowns#1

      Hey Rams, you wanna move and you want our blessing? Fine, Pledge. For the next year you will have to obey our every command, wear this special pin and make the house dinner every Friday night.

    • Big Mike

      I think the horse collar rule expansion is to include grabbing the collar of the shirt. You could grab cloth, no problem. But if you hook a finger(s) inside the collar of the shirt and pull that’s a penalty.

      • Sactowns#1

        I read “nameplate and above”

        • Big Mike

          That’s pretty high up mid you have the nameplate odds are you’ve got collar. I have a suggestion for the Bears. That call is going to be tough. Diving to make a tackle, hand slides up and pinky ends up over the nameplate partially curled under ….

          nameplates below the numbers.

          • CanadaBear

            I just hope they use common sense. If it helped to bring the guy down, call it. If not, ignore it. You just know this won’t happen.

          • Big Mike

            Now we have “what is a tackle” to go along with “what is a catch”

        • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

          you can still grab a hold of their hair and yank backwards, though. so there’s still hope for good highlight plays.

          • Doc Nitty

            Not if you wore your nameplate on your hair.

      • willbest

        Half the time they call it when you get the shirt and not the pads anyway. So I guess this would make it official.

        • Big Mike

          When the ball carrier changes direction, in most cases downward, that’s the tell. If that is how it is enforced, than it’s a good clarification.

          Same concept with holding on the line of scrimmage, the official looks to see if you “levered” the defense man with your hands closed on his gear. If you hold but don’t twist it is rarely called unless the guy has blown by you and you’re hanging on. A lot of guys in bars shouting “that’s holding” will be reacting to a handful of jersey, but if there’s no “torque” it will rarely get called.

    • Trac

      Hey Doc, KR’s don’t give a crap when they field a returnable kick in the end zone. Erra one of em thinks they’re gonna go the distance. Just sayin.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I found him !!

    Jihad Ward, DE, Illinois: Ward (6-5 1/8, 297, 5.17) was a high school wide receiver and defensive back who started at a junior college before transferring to Illinois. He has an unbelievable backstory of perseverance. He played just two years with the Illini with only one spring practice. He’s strong and a very good competitor. He’ll improve with experience and NFL coaching.

    We bring the JIHAD !!!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Josh Hill. Wow. I like. Robocop Thornton? Cap Boso?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w60MbMU_23Y

    A minute in …. can you imagine this guy on the field with KW and AJ? Damn.

    • Scharfinator

      Looks like a good receiver. Can he block?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Saw one nice block in the vid. Jeez I hope we get him.

  • The GP Experiment

    Jeff –

    Could you please use this picture in your logo instead of Billy Goat?

    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_kYRNMKpNITc/SZz9TeB84GI/AAAAAAAAEjU/nnkU-2bzhwM/s320/Schlitz+Congoleum.jpg

    This picture personifies this blog. If this blog were a bar, this is how the front of it it would look. I’m sure of it.

  • Sactowns#1

    I’ll be sure to post some photos when I’m in Ecuador next week. Then you can all see my smiling face and pasty white skin. I’m gonna get sooooooo sun burned.

    • SC Dave

      I’m hoping for a proper trip report.

      Have a great time, dude!

      • Sactowns#1

        Yup. My homework assignment for the blog will be a report on how I spent my spring break. (I don’t really get a spring break anymore but whatev)

        • MB30SD

          Awesome. Enjoy. Tell me you’re going to the galapagos…. so I can live vicariously.

    • The GP Experiment

      Microsoft hired this guy in Equador to make the Forza 3d models for the game.

      I guess this guy was the Michelangelo of 3dMAX. His Ferraris made you cry they were so good. But they had to up his pay because the local mob found out he had a MS job and started shaking him down. True story.

      • Sactowns#1

        Why do you think I’m going down there GP?

        • The GP Experiment

          Cutting every link between you and the robbery?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Z6MJIjCJ20

        • willbest

          Jack Ryan Clear and Present Danger?

          • AlbertInTucson

            That was Columbia, I believe.

        • MB30SD

          Assassinatethe entire top line of the medillin cartel?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      damn dude, trying to make a brother cry?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Well, I did…fair’s fair.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          This is a tough situation because when young people die or get severely injured it never seems fair. However, I’m torn because it’s a voluntary sport and while protections need to be put and kept in place the very nature of the game predisposes participants to possible injury or death.
          I broke my neck playing football. My buddy broke his playing hockey. I avoided paralysis but he did not. My other friend died in the very beginning of the Afghanistan war when we were all kids and another friend survived somehow. Both guys volunteered to participate and understood the risks.
          How do you take the violence out of a violent sport? The whole point of the game is to impose your will and execute your strategy over the opposition. Football, MMA, Boxing, Hockey, etc can be brutal sports but by nature we are a brutal species aren’t we and we always have been.
          Whether I agree with it or not, these sports will not go away and you’ll never be able to legislate or instruct the violence out of them. If they do go away it had better be after we stop kids from being abused, killed, going hungry, being bullied to death, etc.

          • The GP Experiment

            If we switched to robot football, all the players would end up looking like this:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9F8bs_THKiY

            You know they would.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            My wife and I were talking last night about whether or not I’d allow my kids to play football. I couldn’t definitively say that I would.

          • MB30SD

            I’m the same my maings, and you and I share the brotherhood of football through college.

            I don’t think I’ll let my boy play until at earliest 10th grade… and it will have to be something he’s dying to do.

          • Johnnywad

            I can tell you without hesitation as a father of two teenage athletes, if you wait til he’s in 10th grade to participate, it’ll be too late. Sports now, are not like sports when we were kids.

            Every sport known to man is now played year round. If your kid doesn’t pick a Lane, or at most, two lanes and get in it by 7th grade +/-, forget it. Unless of course, he’s Bo Jackson.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Exactly. What if he’s dying to play?

            “Sorry son, you can’t.”
            “Why not? You played!”
            “That’s different…”

            Then you’re that guy.

          • MB30SD

            Nah, irrefutable evidence of possible brain damage is different maings. I gaaaaruuuunteee you that if they had that shit when I was a kid my mommy would have died before letting her baby play.she was a beautiful person.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            My son’s only 1 1/2, so I have at least a few years to go. My daughter wants to play, but that will be limited to flag football. Daddy doesn’t want to go homicidal up in here.

          • MB30SD

            Wait, what?!?! Son?!?!?!

            …where the fuck was my cigar?!?!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Knowing what I know now about CTE and everything else, and if I could go back to when I was 12 and my old man asked me if I wanted to move to Chicago because he’d been offered a promotion there …… I’d go, and I’d play. Absolutely. Best job in the world.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            The one quality I would say which separates Football from basketball and baseball is FEAR.

            Sure, you get excited and tingly when you play those other sports, but you don’t really get scared.

            Playing football (not fuzball) is downright scary. You see ppls knee go the wrong way, or hear the collisions from the sidelines, and everything is like in fast motion, even at non-NFL levels, while guys who outweigh 100 pounds are trying to maim you.

            And it is that barbarism that inspires fear which so compels us at a primal level.

            I agree. Until our brains evolve beyond this fascination when we can teleport to alternate universes and communicate through telapathy, then I don’t think football and like sports are going away anytime soon.

          • Doc Nitty

            Amen Trac!

  • SC Dave
  • The GP Experiment

    Looks like Matty F thinks Pace is a prick for not tendering an offer sheet, even a lowball sheet.

    https://twitter.com/MattForte22/status/712660246372728832

    I’d have called Forte in and told him that Bears won’t make an offer. Looks like Pace let the media talk for him. If you believe Forte. Not a good move.

    • Sactowns#1

      Nope. Seems on par with how their front office has handled things. If Pace is telling me he wouldn’t take Forte for a vet minimum he’s either stupid or a liar.

      • willbest

        When did Pace say that? By not offering Vet Min? Why offer something you know would insult somebody when you know another team will pay him at least $3 million a year.

        • Sactowns#1

          Will, I buy and sell things (mostly vehicles) all the time. Helps make a little travel money. If I was worried about insulting people or hurting their feelings I’d be losing money left and right. FTS

          • willbest

            There is a difference between transactions among people you aren’t going to do business with ever again and those you want to have a working relationship with. And I know Forte isn’t coming back, but you are one of 32 to buyers of NFL labor so you can get a reputation.

            Plus, its not just money. You are talking a spot on your 53-man. A spot that won’t be contributing to special teams.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I don’t think he’d offer the guy vet minimum when you were just giving him 8 million a year. That would be insulting. They realized their mistake with Brian.

    • willbest

      I will say that John Fox is probably one of the three best people on the planet when it comes to evaluating CJ Anderson, and not only did Miami (Gase hearing from Fox?) offer nearly the same after tax money the Bears did, Denver matched and kept him.

      Anderson is also the workhorse, and the Jets brought Matt in to be their 3rd down and breather back

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      There’s the bar, Matty.

      You can sulk with Olin, Urlacher, Briggs, Sayers, Ditka, Butkus…

      • MB30SD

        Diiiiiiis!

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          Jebus, the more these guys whine, the more I’m beginning to think Peanut was my fav Bear since Waddle and Walter.

          • Doc Nitty

            No question. Peanuts easily the most beloved since Walter.

    • Trac

      When you don’t want a RB on the team, why send him mixed signals? Forte knows this, his vagina is sore.

      • MB30SD

        So this.

        Dave, you ok?

        • SC Dave

          Why wouldn’t I be? It’s history. Plus, at least they didn’t string him along.

          I’m more hurt you didn’t comment on those awesome wheels I posted.

          Think of how many chicks you could bone if you could keep a straight face driving that thing. They’d be soooo sympathetic that you were so pathetic.

          • MB30SD

            What wheels???

          • SC Dave

            Post immediately before this one. You have been warned, my man

          • MB30SD

            Doooood, that thing is amazing! !! I would 100% pick up a date in that bad boy. Slick as fuck!

        • SC Dave

          Of course that doesn’t mean I think it was smart. Not sold on Langford. Not yet.

          So far as the arguments about RB being unimportant, I will continue to remind that Forte gained more yards than anyone in the NFL over eight years.

          No way Langford does that the next eight.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He doesn’t have to, and that’s why Pace is looking for somebody who can.
            If we get Elliott or Henry, we have an amazing stable of backs, with probably Carey drawing the short straw and he gets traded to make room.

    • CanadaBear

      I thought it was a head scratcher too (the CJA move). Don’t blame Forte for having his nose out of joint but it’s funny how everyone always says it’s a business and then take it personal. Oh well.

      • MB30SD

        I like bellicheats way. Fucking stock up on massive picks by dumping guys at the first hint of a sign of a downward trajectory. Even at their peak right before the trajectory changes.

        That and spend in fa… boom. It’s just bidniz boys, nothing personal

        • CanadaBear

          I hate that it is so cold but that’s life.

          • SC Dave

            So far from the Cubs I knew growing up.

            Of course, the Cubs suck, so there’s that

          • CanadaBear

            They should be very good this year. But then again …

          • MB30SD

            Bingo!

        • Irish Sweetness

          He’s also picking up guys on a downward trajectory. Blount. Bennett. Sheamus.

          • MB30SD

            I have zero clue what he’s thinking with cd. Absolutely not a single fucking clue.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m VERY curious to see what happens there.

          • MB30SD

            I’m not. I couldn’t give a smaller fuck if I was a midget.

            He’s bellicheats deficit now. Hee HEE!

      • willbest

        I won’t even pretend to understand how different it is when you are literally risking your body for something.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Talking about himself in the third person? Who’s the prick?

      That they didn’t make Matt an offer, and then went after CJ, tells its own story. If I’m Matt Forte I need to sit down and think about why that is.

      Draft-wise, it tells us that the Bears are not sitting down on the backs we have, and that Langford et al are just roster guys. If Zeke is there at 11, Pace has to decide if he can watch him become a pro-bowler somewhere else on an annual basis for about 6-8 years.

  • willbest

    So I know Illinois or maybe it was just Chicago decided to remove the tax on feminine hygiene products, and whatever. But handing out tampons for free seems like a bit much

    http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2016/03/21/new-york-city-bill-to-call-for-free-tampons-in-public-restrooms-shelters-and-jails/?ref=health&_r=0

    I think that there are probably more important things to concern ourselves with, and possibly other ways to provide corporate welfare to whichever company gets the contract.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Basic human biology. You think handing out toilet paper for free is a bit too much too?

      • Sactowns#1

        Listen, I don’t have allergies. Why the hell do we need all these free tissues around?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Waiting for a classic Randian response any minute now…3, 2, 1….

          • Sactowns#1

            Why cant all these people just go out and work for their tampons. I don’t care if she’s 15. Sew a quilt and go door to door to sell it. This kind of nanny state action just leads to laziness. In the town where I was mayor everyone on the city council was sworn in with one hand on the Fountainhead and the other over their heart. We decided roads were making the citizens too soft and really, why should I pay for you to drive from your house to work? I don’t drive down that road. So we stopped paving all the roads and told people that if they wanted paved roads they better get out there and pay for it them damn selves. Of course our town no longer exists since nobody get to it.

          • MB30SD

            Hey! That’s the platform I’m running on next election! !

          • 505Bears

            Free tampons and licorice? I skipped all the way to the bottom and damn, didn’t think tampons were that big of an issue for so many posts, but right on!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wait for it. Hilary wins the nom … then she sideswipes Trump in the general election with something he didn’t think of. Barry had Obamacare. Hilary will be remembered for giving out free jam rags.

          • The GP Experiment

            Fuck Ayn Rand. Fuck her, Greenspan style.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fuck Alan Greenspan. And Warren Buffett. WAit … we could be here all day.

            Bear grylls found an excellent use for tampons if you’re a man who does manly things (or are a pyromaniac). They’re excellent for starting fires.

        • willbest

          There you go, why not free antihistamines

      • Trac

        Guys, maybe on the cheese blog but not here. Mmkay?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          TBC and his pals would have no frame of reference beyond 4H.

          • Trac

            I don’t ever recall a debate over free tampons contributing to an NFL Championship. Just sayin.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Hey, I don’t know…that ’85 locker room probably got REAL weird some days.

      • willbest

        Most toilet paper is privately provided by the business that you are frequenting.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Did you read the f-cking article, will?
          Specifically, its the “city’s public hospitals, parks and recreational centers, and at youth and community programs.”, oh, and those shameful homeless folks.

          • willbest

            Yes I get that, walk in grab a dozen, come back next month.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I would hope so.

          • willbest

            No rags you wash the way great gran did it?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Sounds totally plausible in a 1000 bed hospital, a homeless shelter, a public high school of 2000 students, etc.
            Gets dumber the more you talk about it.

          • willbest

            How are we managing this “crisis” currently. The streets must be running red with menstrual blood.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It’s obviously a problem for women who happen to be somewhere and don’t have ready access to them when they happen to need one.
            Do you know any women? I mean, no offense, but this is pretty simple shit here.

          • willbest

            I know plenty of women. I know of no woman I couldn’t ask for a tampon or pad and couldn’t readily produce one though. And that includes a dozen that earn less than $20k a year.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Wooosh.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh, yeah, I forgot, all those should be privatized so that takers don’t get to suck off the teat of the makers.

      • Trac

        When the “Save a tree” movement began, how come they never went after toilet paper? Hmm..hmm..

        • willbest

          Its probably greener to use toilet paper than one of those Japanese toilets that wash and blow dry your ass. Also, I don’t think most Americans could get used to that sort of thing anyway. I sure as hell couldn’t

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            But your hair would look phenomenal.

          • Trac

            Hahaha

          • MB30SD

            Hahahahahahaha… that was fucking funny.

          • The GP Experiment

            Remember when Sheryl Crow said people should only wipe their ass with a single sheet – that anything else was wasteful?

            No wonder Lance dumped her

          • MB30SD

            She’s….. yucky.

          • CanadaBear

            If you’re like her and crap about twice a week, well OK. All the rest of us, keep the roll handy.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Could be time to flush this thread.

          • Johnnywad

            I couldn’t even get the prelim done with one square.

          • MB30SD

            Dude, ever since kids, baby wipes abound.

            I go in with a baby wipe first, then dry it all up with a little of the classic stuff. Clean as an asshole can get

          • Irish Sweetness

            When I’m back home I sure do miss the hose. All those stinky assholes walking around. Ew. Happiness is a high pressure hose up your ass.

          • MB30SD

            Um, irish…?

            …never mind, don’t think I want more explanation on second thought

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            Spare a square Sheryl, as she was known in Jr high.

            Where’s shady when you need him?

          • MB30SD

            He’s been absent from the ass kickings I was handing out to him for a while in bang bang.

            I’m thinking jailbait

          • Irish Sweetness

            SPARE A SQUARE!!!

      • Doc Nitty

        That’s it! From this day forward I will do everything in my power to make toilet paper free to all mankind.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      If you can’t admit it makes rational sense on its face because it offends your manly sensibilities, call it corporate welfare. Excellent edit.

      • willbest

        It wasn’t my intention to stealth edit. it posted before I finished my thought. fat thumbs.

        But I think at some point you are supposed to handle your own business.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          This is the dumbest argument you have ever put forth.
          By a long margin.
          Go back, read the article once more for clarity, digest the fact that sanitary napkins are a basic necessity for most women for obvious reasons of biology, and ponder for awhile on why you even brought this up.

  • MB30SD

    Gp, Google taptrap… newage radar

    • The GP Experiment

      nice, you invent it?

      • MB30SD

        Nah, got my hands full with my own shit. I’ll never do innovation again. 10 years later the market is finally exploding. Fuck that shit

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy trails MLB Catcher, Sportscaster and Today Show Host, among other things, Joe Garigiola. 90.

    • SC Dave

      Everyone liked that guy, no?

      • AlbertInTucson

        I thought I once heard there was some kind of a rift between him and Haray Caray, who, I believe, gave Joe his start in broadcasting.

        • CanadaBear

          Harry could have gotten into a pissing match with the pope or mother theresa.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yes, I would have to give the benefit of the doubt to Joe.

    • CanadaBear

      He was a likeable guy for sure.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Locally, he was a very popular host of the old Tucson Open back in the day..

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    We really need some football news, there has to be a scandal or something to talk about. Crazy that the blog devolved to arguments over politics, feminine hygiene and feeding a packer troll.

    • Sactowns#1

      Can we please feed the packer troll some feminine hygiene products?

      • The GP Experiment

        I think they call that a Door County Tamale or something.

        • SC Dave

          Door County… you a closet fudger knowing where that is?

          • CanadaBear

            Nah! Door County is beautiful and a destination. It’s the part of the land that juts out into the lake. Even I knew that and I was from Iowa.

          • SC Dave

            I know. My parents used to have a place on North Bay

          • CanadaBear

            Nice! I thought you were pulling GP’s chain!

      • SC Dave

        WhIle he is forced to watch the debates

        • willbest

          I thought Trump canceled all of those.

    • willbest

      Aren’t all the big name FA’s signed? So yeah about a month of treading water

    • willbest

      Batman vs. Superman comes out Friday. Though I probably won’t watch until after the NFL draft.

      • Sactowns#1

        A guy at the gym asked me if I was going to see it when it comes out. I was kind of shocked I didn’t know it was being released this weekend. I honestly think Deadpool was the opening salvo in the death of the superhero film.

        • willbest

          Deadpool has done 732 million worldwide, which is amazing for an R rated movie. I have not seen it yet, but I haven’t heard anybody say bad things about it.

        • willbest

          On the whole Superhero thing, Daredevil Seasons 2 on netflix is not living up to the first season.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          I liked Deadpool.
          It was a violent, lewd, parody, which is perfect Deadpool.

          And you gonna tell me you’re not gonna watch Xmen Apocalypse?

          I know I am!

        • Trac

          Do you wear your hat when you go to the gym Sac? I also recommend dbl protein shots. hee hee

      • MB30SD

        Meh

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I dunno, this seems pretty typical now that we ran through the first rounders over and over. Maybe we could do a fantasy mock draft contest?

      • CanadaBear

        Once they moved the draft back it really made a dead spot in the cycle.

        • willbest

          Things we talked about a year ago
          1) Deflategate
          2) John Fox’s awesomeness
          3) How overpaid and horrible Cutler was and how we should trade him for two 4th rounders

          • CanadaBear

            Don’t remember many of the regs advocating for #3.

          • willbest

            Well going back to page 27, blackhawks63 said we couldn’t give him away. Irish wanted to trade 2nd and 3rd rounds with the Titans for us to give him Cutler, Abba would also have dumped him for peanuts too though I think I would have had to find a different. Thread to scan through.

            Incidentally, given what happened to the WR market we should have perhaps signed Jeffery last year, though I know Irish would have gone nuts over paying him $12 million for his performance.

          • Irish Sweetness

            As I recall, I would have entertained offers for Cutty, and signed Fitzy as an interim. But Brandon Marshall would still be a Bear. There was also the possibility that Cutty would do an Elway, and turn it around in his tenth year, so I was in two minds. Then again, I don’t get paid six million dollars a year to think about these things.

            His turnaround was phenomenal, and all he did was do the things we wanted him to do. There aren’t 5 guys in the league I’d rather have right now.

          • willbest

            I believe at the time I said the floor was 2 2nds, which is what the 49ers got for Smith. Given the state of the QB market now anything less than a 1st and 4th would have been underpaid.

            I also don’t think it was BM or Cutler. I think BM was gone either way.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But who can BM call out other than the QB? The defense? They’d put him in his place quick smart. The beef was probably the bromance gone sour, and they had to pick the guy to leave. I still don’t contend that’s the only solution, but that’s what POX thought.

            There’s got to be more to the story though.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yeah, who’s got a list of the second rounders that will be there ?

    • beninnorcal

      Sounds like I’ve missed some intriguing shit around here.

  • The GP Experiment

    MB –

    Maybe when I retire and move to Vegas and live in a trailer park and play Hold Em every day, I’ll get me this car. Normally I don’t do screaming Chicken, but what he did here is just cool.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWd9CaAfbp0

    • AlbertInTucson

      And now, the Pontiac line is extinct.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yep, that’s my car.
      “We’ve got a loooong way to go, and a short time to get there …..”

  • The GP Experiment

    Everyone could talk about the touchback being moved to the 25 to prevent the high speed hits on kickoffs…

    that’s more interesting than tampon legislation.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      Douche day?

      I agree with coaches, there might be MORE kickoffs cuz coaches don’t want to give that extra 5 yards.

      So Gould is not perfect since he can’t kick it out of the endzone and it starts at least from the 25 with him anyways.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        not sure about the more kickoffs, coaches tend to play the odds, and I read somewhere that it is just 1% better chance of scoring from 25 than from 20. I would post the link but I don’t remember where I read it.

        • willbest

          What is the average starting spot on a returned kick though?

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          It’s going to be interesting. Arguments can be made either way (coaches don’t always go by math, or else they’d always go for the two point conversion). NFL is smart in making it a 1 year trial for that reason.

          It might come down to how coaches feel about their K, and what kinda gunners they have.

          If I was confident in my gunners and K directionally kicking it high, then no way do I want an automatic touchback at the 25.

          But, some might just not want to risk, esp if the other team boasts a stud returner.

          Jeff, you’re a special teams connoisseur, you should make a bet/poll if the rule will translate into MORE or LESS touchbacks.

    • willbest

      Other than this benefiting the Bears because Robbie can’t kick touchbacks anyway, I don’t know what else there is to discuss.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        Robbie should be cut.

        • willbest

          I have mellowed since last November, but I am going to lose my shit if there aren’t a couple UFAs in camp to compete

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            in fact they should just trade him away for a couple months supply of tampons to use in the Women’s restroom in Soldier Field.

          • willbest

            From a sanitary standpoint they need to increase the number of stalls at Soldier Field by about 30%, I swear there are fewer there than there are at the UC or Allstate Arena.

          • MB30SD

            Good trade

        • Irish Sweetness

          The four million dollar man.

  • Big Mike

    I believe Jonathan Wood and a number of guys on the blog were berated prior to last season for taking the position that Jay Cutler would have a bounce back year and his contract would be a bargain going forward. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/columnists/ct-jay-cutler-bears-biggs-spt-0324-20160323-column.html

    • willbest

      I maintained he was going to be a bargain, and that the only reason he got 22+ million and was averaging 18 mil a year was do to the timing in which he was renegotiating his contract versus other players. And low and behold Oz is now making the same as him. I wasn’t actually expecting to be validated on that front so quickly. I figured it would be 2017 or 2018

      • Irish Sweetness

        So you KNEW he was going to have a major turnaround last season?

        • Scharfinator

          He also knows he will definitely keep it up and not regress without Gase….

          This is my personal fear about our situation.

          • MB30SD

            Fuck gase. Turncoat

          • Scharfinator

            Either way, I think that fear still has merit.

        • willbest

          But he didn’t have a major turn around? A lot of his stats were worse than 2014. The only major improvement was fewer turnovers. It just felt different because he pulled a couple games out of his ass against the Raiders and the Chiefs. Which is bound to happen with a guy like Cutler when the energy in the locker room isn’t inspired by the Cryptkeeper.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      I never went so far as to say bargain. I simply said it was a market value contract and wouldn’t either prohibit the Bears from keeping him or hinder his trade value if they decided to pursue that route. http://www.dabearsbeat.com/2015/03/04/accurately-framing-jay-cutlers-contract/

      I also went on record saying I thought he’d be replaced as the starter by the end of this upcoming season at the latest, but now I think that may get extended a bit. So it’s not like I got it 100% correct. http://www.dabearsbeat.com/2015/02/27/new-gmcoach-combos-quarterbacks/

    • Irish Sweetness

      The Elway Effect. It’s a thing.

  • The GP Experiment
    • willbest

      That doesn’t pass the smell test. You are going to avoid a possible media circus by drafting a guaranteed media circus?

      edit: plus even if you duck Hard Knocks one year it can still come back at you the next. If you end up being selected you are in the clear for a decade.

    • Trac

      Imagine that…kinda like NASA. Hee hee

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    My dream of the future of the hybrid safety/lb is coming to fruition.

    Su’s Cravens of USC

    Football visionary Johnny Waffle

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

    You guys are giving me shit for wanting to draft a K in the 6th?
    Well, this guy might not even be available when we pick in the 3rd!

    Meet Goulds replacement, like always, Mexican, better and cheaper!

    http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/ncaaf/2014/09/11/no-1-florida-state-k-aguayo-is-on-record-pace/15464837/

    Hold on till we draft, Trumpf!

    • Irish Sweetness

      The photo looked like he was a Jim O’Brien straight-ahead booter of the ball so I found a highlights video on YT. He has one, surprisingly. It looked like a succession of 20 yard FGs and was made by his mother.

      How many picks do we have now?

      • MB30SD

        Like 20… bellicheat style. So awesome!

  • Cormonster

    Hey Irish, LSD replay on Yahoo Live from their show tonight in Boston. Catch it while you can. Live streaming. Not the best sound quality, but worth a listen if you have the time. Listen in HD if you got the bandwidth.

    https://www.yahoo.com/music/livenation

    • Irish Sweetness

      Cheers man!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Copuldn’t play it but looked up the gig on YT. The only thing listenable-to was Mike’s drum solo.

  • MB30SD

    Corm… gotta say I listened to some o dat lsd sheite.. no my bag (at allllll) maaan.

    But fucking radiohead is, and (some) prince is…

    But prince covering radio head live?!?! Um, yes please.

    https://youtu.be/NFXZNt4oLkE

    • Irish Sweetness

      Tell me this version doesn’t make you fall in love with Rachael Price.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EPwRdVg5Ug&list=PLaVyzvDyn8RDHGNZ7HIdXXbRPHo9mbT2G

      • Bender McLugh

        haven’t heard them before, very nice

      • MB30SD

        Nope. Not sayin they aren’t good or that she doesn’t have a beautiful voice. .. their style of music just ain’t my jam yo. My favorite song is, “everything is awesome”.

        And if I’m in the confessional, I’m not a woman vocalist guy on the whole for whatever reason. I’m allllll about old no doubt, shit.. see…. racking my brain for more here.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I love that Lego movie.

          The ladies? Love me some Ella, Billie, Nina, Sarah Vaughan. Basically Nubian queens done wrong. Mix them up with some Nat King Cole and Louis Armstrong and you’ve got a party.

          • MB30SD

            Meh, ain’t my jam.

            Yeah, my kids love it, and some parts crack me up. We’ve seen it 30 40 times

    • Cormonster

      Yeah, well that’s just like, your opinion, man. It’s all good, but I love the fucking shit out of that band. I been listening to their new album like crazy and they were awesome in concert a couple weeks ago. It’s normally not my style either.

      Nice cover by Prince. I used to listen to Radiohead all the time, but it kind of depresses me if I listen too much.

      My buddy was telling me a cool story a few weeks ago. When he lived in Minneapolis in the mid 80’s, he was just hanging out one night at 1st Ave listening to some local band, Then out of nowhere Prince goes up on stage and “tries out” three new songs that he was working on. He didn’t say anything, just went up and played the songs and left. Thought that was a pretty cool story.

      • MB30SD

        Hahaha… exactly. I think I’m misogynistic in my music tastes like will is with his, well…. everything. Haha : )

        That’s cool. I was never really a prince music fan, but the dude is one helluva musician and talent. Love radiohead and the smiths, but yeah not too much

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’m calling it. Every year we’re one spot away.

    With the 10th pick of the 2016 NFL draft, the New York Giants select … Ezekiel Elliott.

    • willbest

      now you are just trolling

      • Irish Sweetness

        No tampon begrudgery here.

        “All jam rags should be free!”

        – Hilary Clinton’s Presidential campaign slogan 2016

        • MB30SD

          Jam rags… lalz

          That’s the new name of my garage country-punk band.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      Giants, rams, jets, chargers all stole guys I wanted like 1 spot ahead of us.

      Day late, dollar short

      • BC

        Remind me on who the Chargers stole?

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Ladarius Green and Melvin Ingram

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jeez, Melvin? What happened to him?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      we need a pass rush so Amos, Fuller, Porter and nameless faceless average FS to be named later don’t get burned all day long by any and all WR and TE.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This is it and has long been my desired philosophy on defense. Bring so much pain and wreak so much havoc with your front 7, that it almost doesn’t matter who your DBs are. They’re back there just fielding pop-ups.

  • Irish Sweetness

    What’s all this boner-inducement over on WCG for Tony Jefferson, Cards safety?

    Do we want him? Do we even need him?

    Figure this. Amos and Quartey-Jones-Fortington-Smythe are both just 22! Remember being 22? I barely do, a wild-eyed loner standing at the gates of oblivion trying to drink and drug myself to an early grave. These guys are professional football safeties for the greatest organization on the planet, and they’re only 22.

    Another year in the system. Another year of coaching. A better pass rush. I’d still like a freakish large safety on the roster, but they’ll do. Won’t they?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      In my humble opinion Amos filled a spot last year but showed nothing that he’ll be more than just a guy.

      • Bender McLugh

        in my humble opinion you are wrong. flat wrong man. Amos has the skills and will flourish this season.

        • Scharfinator

          He was pretty good for a rookie. As long as he can build on that, I’ll be happy to see him out there.

          • MB30SD

            Agree.

            Ronnie lot he’s not… yet… but who knows.

          • Bender McLugh

            I thought he was better than pretty good though, considering (as MB said) he was playing on such a crappy D last year. I think he will definitely build on his rookie season.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          i want to be wrong. I just have a feeling based off of what I saw that he’ll end up average for a pro.

          • MB30SD

            And if you’re wrong you don’t want to be right?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            i look at impact safeties and they all have one thing in common….they force the issue, they take away an option, they force a decision and then they commit with full force. our guys are always a step late, in between two possible decisions, etc.

            film dont lie

          • MB30SD

            21 yr old straight outta Compton on one of the shittiest Ds in the league.

            Totally agree with errathing you just said, but imma give him this year and make the call. He at the very least deserves that in my mind.

            …that and he’s not 5’10” and white. (I know, I don’t know why I hate myself murph)

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            agreed, pass rush and 2nd year will help. Thats why insane upfront D is so important to me. I want a front 7 that would send Hardin to the ProBowl.

            At least he’s not Proshooski

          • MB30SD

            Oh please god.

            So who’s your pick at 11. Straight up.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, i’ve been thinking about it. It’s ballsy but since we have the 11th pick and Titans already have a QB i’d make a play for the 1st pick or at least top 5 to get Jack. I want Ramsey and the Titans can’t ask for the world if we’re already swapping the 1st for the 11th pick. I’ll be very happy with Myles Jack and Fangio would know exactly what to do with him. Then i want Su’a Cravens later on as a hybrid LB/S. Change the fucking game and create a whole new type of player out on the field.

            I know it’s not plausible. It’s too crazy. I guess my real life pick would be a safe DL pick to create a ton of solid depth on the D line. If Josh Hill signs with Bears then we have 3 decent TE’s that can all catch 1st downs and TD’s in the red zone.
            ILB is wrapped up and we have a backups that will play better behind a better D line. OLB is ok for now with McPhee, Young and Houston. Bryce Callahan showed me something last year at DB. It’s time to get playmakers.

          • Bender McLugh

            I’d love to see a great S &/or DB picked up in the 2nd, and if not then the 1st with a trade-back. Any possible great S/DB that will be around in the 2nd?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            lot’s of interesting guys. I don’t want to wait a month to find out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’ll pass on great as long as they’re 6’3 / 6’4. I may be alone with MB in thinking that our current young safeties might be just okey dokey with a pass rush and some more experience and coaching. Babes in the wood.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Darron Lee is your freak hybrid LB/S.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            but Su’a Cravens won’t be a first rounder. Lee will be I think. I’d take Jack over all of them. In order of importance to me in 1st round
            Ramsey
            Jack
            Buckner
            Robinson
            Spence/Lawson/Ogbah

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Lee in the first round, and Jihad Ward at the top of the second.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, just so Irish can say it with impunity.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            I think Ward is legitimately going to go top of the second round at the latest. He really got some great press out of the Illini pro day. He won’t go top of the first round, but he’s rising.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            He’s also played NT, DE, and DT. Steelers evidently showing serious interest in him in the second.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Is Jihad any good? Seen him play? The name is almost worth the pick alone.
            We coud just donate the rest of the picks to the offense – although it would be nice to see a CB drafted.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            stop saying that word or the NSA is going to see all the weird porno on my computer.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Imagine all the weird porno on THEIR computers ….

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            http://www.catscratchreader.com/2016/1/28/10840750/article
            There’re some highlights of him against the Buckeyes where he was the focal point of OSU blocking scheme, doubleteaming constantly. He dominated against Iowa.
            And the word on every blog I’ve read is that he was consistently dominant in Sr. Bowl workouts, etc.
            I never focus on the linemen during games, so I can’t tell you what I saw during the Illini season.
            He can throw down a reverse dunk though, so he’s plenty athletic. (No, no tape of him jumping out of a pool).

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jihad. He’s a bit taller than any of the touted DEs in the first round, so we could go OLB/ILB in the first, and grab him in the 2nd. But what do we do about LT?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=psMFXTjzrac

            From NFL.COM:

            STRENGTHS Can play both end spots and has bumped down inside to tackle as well. Has room for even more muscle on his frame. Great effort throughout the play and will continue his chase until whistle blows. Length and down­-the­-line quickness give him expanded playmaking range. Urgent closing burst to the ball. Full force tackler with thump behind his pads. Keeps feet moving and active throughout his pass rush. Can become a quality edge-­setter with a little lower pad level. Has some pass rush reps showing ankle flexion to turn corner at 45-degree angle. Won’t let tight ends punk him. Better pick man than twister in tackle/end and end/tackle twists. Traits are there and teams likely to be patient with his development.

            WEAKNESSES Has tools to set a harder edge but isn’t there yet. Inconsistent contact balance. Lays on blocks longer than he should. Needs to keep working on controlling the rep with better hand work. Long legs get caught up in trash around the line of scrimmage. Below average at protecting against cut blocks. Instincts very much a work in progress. Could use nasty glass­-eater mentality at point of attack. Doesn’t flash the mean to impose his will. Not a natural counter puncher as pass rusher once initial try is stuffed. Won’t always accelerate into contact as pass rusher limiting his power potential.

            BOTTOM LINE Above average athleticism for a man his size and he has the effort level that should lead to continued improvement in the areas where he is deficient. Ward is a developmental prospect who has the size to fit as a 4-­3 base end or defensive tackle and as a 3­-4 defensive end. Is he mean enough to play inside though? He might need a position coach to draw that out of him while he continues to develop.

          • Trac

            It’s rumored that Roger Goodell is working the phone lines on this.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You’ve got Spence/Lawson/Ogbah ahead of Elliot and Stanley? Or you just don’t want an OT/RB? I’ve seen those three mocked in the 20s.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            my buddy Kev is a Notre Dame FREAK and has predicted the biggest studs out of the last few drafts and he is NOT impressed at all with Stanley. With his track record of research it gave me pause.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Conklin at 11? Has an Emery feel to it.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I think I’d be on board with Conklin more than Stanley

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I was just looking at D. Offense shouldn’t be considered. If the Bears had snagged one other D position in free agency I could get on board with an OL I guess.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            I sorta see it the same way

            Ramsey is a pipe dream (might even go #1 overall), but Jack I feel will drop more than others expect. I think his size will scare a lot of GMs in the top 10.

            You can afford to swing and miss at #11, but at 5 or 6, that’s a GM’s ass, and taking a chance on a smaller hybrid LB will give GM nigthmares.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I am only really opposed to RB and QB because i feel like an OL, DL, S, CB, OLB, DE will only help and at 11 i think a talent will drop to us. Who would you pick if you had one need to address in the whole draft?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Dude. Say what? You’d kill our next few drafts just to get Jack? Trading up rarely works out, if at all.

            Disagree that we’re okay at OLB, we need depth / a stud to bring along at OLB. Leonard sure would be nice, because he could fill out some. The top-rated DEs all look too short to pay 3-4 DE. That OLB spot might be the way to go if Stanley/Elliott are gone. Or that Darron Lee MBHAP loves.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Moving from 11 to top 5 wouldn’t kill future drafts since we pick at 11. We are OK at OLB but not amazing. It’s true that we don’t have a Von Miller. However you can’t tell me that an unproven rookie like Leonard who didn’t even dominate college ball would be better than Houston, McPhee or Young.
            Picking up a guy like Jack or Ramsey is likely to change the dynamic of the D a bit because they actually dominated their college opponents and didn’t just make a play here and there. It scares me that some of the DL that we have our eyes on didn’t facebang every single guy they went up against. It scares me that we’re considering a QB that went to North Dakota….State. Pace needs to stack the D with playmakers at our positions. If that means we give up some additional 3rd or 4th rounders and swap picks then so be it.

            Ultimately based on what I’ve seen so far from Pace and Fox I’m pretty confident that they know what to do and how to do it so my concern, while present, isn’t as crushing as when we had 6 no names on the field playing D at the same time.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Don’t get me wrong, I’m happy if we get another LB, but I don’t want to smoke the draft to do it. Man, if they got Ragland I’d be happy. All about the Mikes.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            the good news is that Pace pulled a fucking coup and snagged two of the most highly regarded ILB’s in the league. I’m still shaking my head that we got Trevathan and Freeman for really fair prices.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Shouldn’t take Ragland off our board though and they have worked him out. If you’re going to rock at LB, then f**king ROCK.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I think they got those two guys because it could allow them to target other positions instead of needing to take a risk on Ragland in the 1st round. Ragland although regarded as a top LB in THIS draft class is considered one of the best in a bad class of LB’s.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            I still can’t believe we got a 4rth for Bennet’s sorry ass.

            Holy shit, Pace deserves to be on the cover of Forbes for his FA moves.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Bennett could have been one of the great ones. He needed a strong coach that commanded respect and he got the opposite. Then he got one who was like, “GTFO”.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Kind of hoping for Elliott myself. Honestly Henry in the second, but I think he’ll be gone by then. So Zeke at 11. Love to see 6’6 Leonard on the team somehow.
            Buckner would be nice, but is that overkill with Goldman, Hicks and Terry W?
            Stanley would be nice if Buckner and Elliott were gone. Then Wentz is exciting if he’s there.

            Man Christmas is hard.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Irish, we specifically lost games last year because the D lacked playmakers, not because of our running backs. If anything last year was the first year in recent memory when our backs got the tough first downs, kept drives alive, found the endzone on run plays.
            If Pace picks Elliot with the 1st pick he should be fired.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yup, I’m with you on the D, I am. It would be hard to pass up Elliott though, he seems like a salt of the earth kid. Kind of reminds me of Neal Anderson, a bit bulkier. Clearly Pace is not happy witht he roster of backs we have. Who’s our banger? Perry is the biggest guy we have at 6’0 210.

            ESPN did a piece on Zeke, he’s hard not to like, The main proviso might be that the defenses he was up against didn’t look the Mae West.

            The moves:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EiB2ceo6IPQ

            The man:
            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVNMRLAs-U0

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            solid post and extra blog points for adding graphics and video. I like him don’t get me wrong and if we hadn’t thrown Prostinky, Callahan, Jones, McClellin, Unrein, McMannis, Anderson, Timu and a couple of D linemen with jersey numbers in the 70’s on the field last year while pissing away victories by giving up game winning drives over and over I’d say go for it. Unfortunately all that other stuff happened.

          • MB30SD

            We shall see. We have an opty to have 1 of 5 or 6 top end guys, pace just can’t pull a fucking emery.

            Just pick the highest rated guy at a position of need, if onna thems ain’t der, go with the heighest rated guy on your board. Pretty simple really

          • MB30SD

            Mommy, I want to be a safety in the nfl one day

            Baby, you can be ANYTHING and EVERYTHING you set your mind to…

            …except that.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Question: do impact safeties do that in year one though? Are they not like receivers in that case where it can take a couple of years fro thee penny to drop? I think they did pretty well for a couple of rooks, with no pass rush in front of them. Yes, we could use a vet for depth, but they could be the pair.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            Part of that was our sucky pass rush. I’ve seen guys like Berry get burned when there’s no pass rush.

            When our pass rush improves, we might see more plays from the secondary.

            But we still need a ballhawk at S, I agree. Not sure if there’s any slam dunks in this draft though, esp when the best S also happens to be the best S in Ramsey who will get drafted well before us

          • The GP Experiment

            Amos came downhill a few times and brought the wood to RBs. People like that.

            But his top speed and his speed to read the zone rotation is slow, and he’s not good at getting there on the deep routes. He’s too small to move to SS, but he has the mindset of a SS.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think Amos and Q-J are almost identical in size, no? Checking – Amos is 6’0 an inch taller and a couple pounds heavier, but Q-J is SS. Damn, snagging Iloka would have been sooooo sweet, let the two smaller guys fight it out for FS.

          • Trac

            Feelings will get you a bucket of chicken wings evra time.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I don’t know what that means but I like Chicken wings.

          • Trac

            The only place I will NOT go for wings is Buff. WW. Turrible.

          • CanadaBear

            I was there once. It was like the McDonalds of chicken wings.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            but the sauce is so good. when I go there I get Buffalitos with the various sauces. I buy the sauce and make my own wings at home. Probably the reason why I don’t run a 4.65 anymore.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Ever go to Quaker Steak and Lube?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            no , it sounds like porno about a young and hung Quaker who sets out on a trip to California to find his pen pal Haylee.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          Agree. He’s aggressive, layed the wood, and flashed even as a rook.
          Will he be Rod Woodson? Prolly not, but I think he’ll be a staple in our D.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I want one of these for Halloween
    https://youtu.be/Ul26r2rbhE4

  • The GP Experiment

    If you don’t translate from German, or read German, you may miss this. The US MSM will sweep this right under the rug and not report it:

    http://www.dhnet.be/actu/belgique/exclusif-les-freres-el-bakraoui-visaient-nos-centrales-nucleaires-56f3778d35702a22d5ad606b

    The Belgian cell that did the bombing had video footage in their possession of a senior official, one who possessed codes, of a Belgian nuclear reactor. The footage was the guy going to work and coming home from bushes outside his house. I guess that’s hashtag “coulda been worse”

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Which is why France went full lockdown on their reactors as soon as the bombings happened.

      • The GP Experiment

        I missed that part of the story when it happened.

        At least now, they know the depth of the planning to hit these targets.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Germany upped security on theirs as well. I remember seeing snippets about this the last couple of days. They got to the suspects apartment pretty damn quickly, thanks to the cab driver that dropped three of them off at the airport.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            dude, you’re worried about nuclear reactors? There are 44yr old Episcopalians in Naperville buying handguns right now god damnit.

      • Trac

        Any idea where we can find some friendly muslim’s from Syria? Where’s George Clooney when you need him?

    • willbest

      Trump looks less crazy every time one of these happens.

      • Trac

        Sssshhhh…..

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        naw. No reasonable man can look at Donald Trump and see him fit as commander in chief.

        • Trac

          When the muslim scare is over, the next card will be invading aliens. 😉

          • Sactowns#1

            There will always be a boogey man for the government to distract us with.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Trac, you might not be wrong. It won’t be a real invasion, but that’s a play in the book, one mentioned by one Ronald Reagan all those years ago.

          • Trac

            It’s the next Ace in the hole. I know this.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No he doesn’t. Even his own party thinks he’s crazy. He’s a small-minded racist, and so is anyone who equates Muslims with terrorism.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          A lot less of his party thinks he’s crazy on that issue than gives me any sort of comfort, unfortunately. Don’t disagree with the rest of your comment though.

        • willbest

          Well it goes without saying Trump is a racist. So was Romney, McCain, Bush, Dole, Bush, Regan, Ford, Nixon, Goldwater, Nixon. I don’t know if Ike was called it but he kicked out a couple million Mexicans so by his actions he really was. FDR locked up a bunch of Americans for the color of their skin so he was. No doubt everybody that ran against him was too.

          Anyway, word doesn’t mean anything any more

        • SC Dave

          Bullshit

        • Bender McLugh

          hahaha woah, you had me and then WAY lost me

    • Irish Sweetness

      Mais mon frere, c’est Francaise, non?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      possible nuclear sabotage and mass destruction aside, who do you think the Bears will pick in the 2nd round?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse
      • Irish Sweetness

        Priorities, I know! I doubt nuclear winter in Europe affects the regular season kickoff. In fact, I see no reason for pre-season to be affected either, regardless of Jefe’s feelings on the matter.

        This 4-rounder shows you the possibles for round 2. This one has us draft Leonard Floyd and Jason Spriggs OT. I like. Jaylon Smith is also mocked to be there when we pick. to stash or not to stash (if next season is the run …)

        http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000643637/article/fourround-mock-40-cowboys-land-joey-bosa-derrick-henry

        Other possibles; Henry (fingers crossed), Kamalai Correa OB, Noah Spence, Jihad, W-Jax III CB, Keanu Neal S, Kendall Fuler, Robert Nkemdiche, the WR Corey Whatshisface, A’Sahwn Robinson, Yannik Ngakoue OB (NFL comparison Frank Zombo!),

        Correa is interessting as an OLB in the second if we do something else in the first :

        6’3 245

        STRENGTHS Well­-built and twitched up. Has see ball, get ball traits to work with. Rarely fooled by back­side bootlegs or reverses. Unleashed his impressive long speed and pursuit motor to run down a Utah State running back 51 yards down the field. Tackle finisher when he launches into target. Logged 19 sacks and five forced fumbles over last two seasons. As pass rusher, has explosion potential to create some edge panic with NFL coaching. Has second gear to chase from sideline to sideline.

        WEAKNESSES Seems to be more focused on getting out of the blocks quickly rather than gaining ground upfield as a rusher. Hand usage is inconsistent and unrefined. Doesn’t use hands as weapons of victory often enough at the top of his rush. As NFL edge player, will have to play with more jolt and power in his punch. Play strength is just average. Lacks feel for down­ blocks and cracks and can be pinned down too easily. Will come flying to the ball at full ­speed and overrun the tackle.

    • willbest

      I know its heartless victim blaming but you are a country of 10 million people, you bring in between 600k and 1 million Muslims, they exist in a world where your police don’t go living their own laws teaching their own kids with zero supervision by you, and you give them unfettered access to the rest of your country. I am not entirely sure what they expected would happen, but if this wasn’t in the possibilities well, you aren’t electing the brightest leaders. And if it is expected, well then your political class needs to go, and not in the civilized way.

      • Trac

        Europe is finding out they don’t assimilate well. Even the Borg won’t take them.

      • Irish Sweetness

        What has the unprecedented tragedy of a nation displaced got to do with terrorists letting off bombs? Islam is a peaceful religion, true Muslims would not kill innocent people, ergo the people doing this are not true Muslims … just a bunch of fucking arseholes with not very much happening upstairs.

        Plus, the Syrians weren’t “bought in” they just arrived. They had nowhere to go. They are in forced exile, going through horrors we can only perhaps attempt to imagine, every one of them having lost one, some or all of their family members. Every thing they have known and loved .. is just gone … and is not coming back. Their lives and hearts have been torn apart.

        One does not need to be religious to have compassion, Will, but one thing in religion from my own upbringing I remember : “There but for the grace of God, go I.” …..or you.

        • Sactowns#1

          And we can point the finger at ourselves for helping Syria devolve into the sht show it is now. When we bomb places we rarely bring about peace. Odd isn’t it? Dropping bombs on people doesn’t create a peaceful situation.. who knew?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I wasn’t going to say it, but yeah. Destabilizing the Middle East has been a pet project of the MIC for a long time. The Joint Chiefs are loving this, and it’s all Europe’s problem in the aftermath.

          • Trac

            But Sac, the Chaos is by design my man. Iraq is being ripened like a big juicy Apple. A few more years and they’ll be begging the world banks for some juicy fat loans. Watch.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And The Book of Revelations is pretty much nigh there, Trac. In all seriousness. When the chipping is complete and we all have one in our left thumbs, “he shall not be able to buy or sell without the number of the beast ….”.

          • The GP Experiment

            Sac –

            The Russians mostly bombed Syria. To prop up Assad. A man who would have been deposed in a democracy.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Our impact in Syria is mostly felt by it’s absence. You nailed it.

          • willbest

            Wait what? you want us to go in?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Like send substantial ground troops to Syria now that it’s a complete shit show? No, although we do have a presence there, like it or not.
            I’d count Syria as one of our major foreign policy failures of the century or worse.
            But it has origins that go back to Iraq.

          • The GP Experiment

            Let’s review Syria. Only the Birkenstock crowd at the Guardian with their natty hair and scented dope, blame the US for Syria.

            Assad represses the shit out of his own people. He cannot control Hezbollah in his nation, and Hezbollah keeps running up into southern Syria to escape Lebanese reprisals.

            He uses chem weapons on his people. Sarin gas and chlorine bombs from helos. His jets reduce major cities to rubble and displace millions.

            These people flee into Europe.

            ISIS attacks him from the east. They are much better fighters and have tunnels and bunkers. He needs Russian jets. And ammo. Putin gives him this.

            Putin then directs airstrikes at bases that the CIA has provided stingers to, knowing that Russian LGBs can hit them from altitudes that Syrians can’t.

            CIA backed rebels crumble.

            More refugees invade Europe.

            ISIS puts it’s own people into the refugee mix. To infiltrate Europe and sow discord and start a terror war on Europe. This is largely successful. Europe is cowed by weak political leadership.

            So what would you do Sac? Be like the European leaders and declare the bombings as the new normal?

            It’s scary that I am with Trac on this.

          • Scharfinator

            Putin’s pull out was incredibly well timed too – it’s going to be a huge bargaining chip to come.

          • willbest

            Query, I know the rapes in Germany and elsewhere are probably new arrivals, but I thought the majority of the actual bombers and gunners conducting the terror attacks were born in Europe meaning their parents arrived at least 20-30 years ago and set up their own country in a country rather than assimilating. Not that the Europeans didn’t make it easy for them to set up their own countries.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Based on what I’ve read, they are typically young, unemployed, disaffected 3rd and 4th generation immigrants who were recruited either into or from criminal gangs in the community, went to Syria to fight, and came back trained and further radicalized.
            Unemployment rate among the youth demographic in those areas, like Molenbeek, is at least 40% (I’ve seen it higher, like 60%, but older articles), which is not unrelated to higher incarceration rates, like you alluded to in an earlier comment.

          • willbest

            Which incidentally we are having a problem with in the US because pew surveys every few years of Muslims show the under 30 crowd far more radical than their parents. And we are actively seeing this with the Somalians in MN trying to run off and join ISIS. Minnesota isn’t exactly a state of tolerance and hatred. Though I would submit to you as a hypothesis that it is a state high on enablement.

            This is not a healthy situation to have, and if you do not have the will
            to assimilate these people, you should not be letting them into your
            country.

          • The GP Experiment

            When we step from light into shadows, we must hope for 1 of 2 things. That there is something solid to step on, or we can fly.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            So it has nothing to do with the refugees, and everything to do with having a permanent underclass in European society that’s ripe for radicalization? Got it.

          • willbest

            They are not mutually exclusive problems. The rapes and increase in violent crimes have been linked to the refugees. Though it is harder to tell in Europe because many places don’t like to keep ethnic statistics.

            Plus, since Europe (and America) have shown zero interest in a forced assimilation plan, today’s refugees are the parents of tomorrows extremists.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Forced assimilation? Please paint me a picture.

          • willbest

            It would offend you to be sure, but no worse than the Irish, Italians, and the Jews suffered in the 1880s to 1920s to bring them into the fold.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Oh no, please do share.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            By the way, let’s do a little exercise. Can you point out something about, say, Somalians, or Japanese, or Chinese immigrants that would be different than the Irish, Italians or Jews that immigrated around the turn of the century? Or the immigrants in Europe in the mid-50s from around the continent vs. those arriving from Syria, Northern Africa, etc?
            I wish I could put my finger on it.

          • Sactowns#1

            Um it has NOTHING to do with religion and everything to do with the fact that a 30 and under loser male who has rarely or never had a lady is a crazy fckd up thing. Like one of those pubescent male elephants. Theyre literally insane.
            Look at Dylan Roof, Aaron Alexis, Jon Zawarhi, Adam Lanza etc etc. I think Seung-hui Cho summed it all up in his video diary of a sad sad sack. Most of this has very little to do with religion and a lot more to do people feeling hopeless, for one reason or another.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            You cannot be serious right now Sac. Are you saying that muslims that are engaging in acts of violence around the world are doing it because they feel hopeless and not because of their belief in Islam?

          • Sactowns#1

            Notice they didn’t start bombing until after we did. Hillary demanded regime change and here we are today.

        • Trac

          Try moving to Saudi Arabia to build a Church Irish. See how peaceful they are. I call bullshit my man.

        • Scharfinator

          Why don’t we see more Muslims condemning these acts? Is it happening and unreported? Are they afraid?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            It happens all the time. There’s a limited amount of time I’m going to type this into google, but here’s an example.
            http://time.com/4112830/muslims-paris-terror-attacks-islam-condemn/

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            Don’t see many americans protesting drone strikes on the streets when it wipes out children.

            The ones who do are called pussies.

          • Scharfinator

            Sad but true.

      • Sactowns#1

        This is the weirdest thing to me. We have nutjobs killing 10, 20, 30 people at a time here in the US just about once a month. But a Muslim blows himself up and everyone loses their damn minds. Also, why is it we only mourn the bombings in countries with a majority white population. January, Burkina Faso attack kills 29. Not even a blip in the media and nary a mention here on the blog. But white people get blown up and suddenly this is news.
        Your odds of dying from the accidental discharge of a firearm, 1 in 7,984. Odds of dying from a terrorist attack, 1 in 20 million.
        “look at the monkey. Look at it!”

        • willbest

          Terrorism is the headline getter. Muslims supposedly are 6% of the Belgium population but make up 43% of their prison population. Anyway you made my point, they are violent as all get out in their own countries, so perhaps its not Belgian racism that is to blame for all of this.

          • Sactowns#1

            Well when we removed the leadership in Syria it created a power vacuum and yes, violence. Tends to happen.

          • willbest

            No I agree with you there. But then we been shitting up the ME for decades, and the British and Russians were doing it decades before us.

          • Sactowns#1

            And we wonder why their religion has shifted to an anti western philosophy.

          • willbest

            Shifted? As if it didn’t conquer the Middle East and up through southern Europe by sword in the first place?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Theodosius
            Charlemagne
            The Spanish Inquisition
            The Balkans since the collapse of Yugoslavia
            and so on and so on and so on.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Well this is true also. They have been getting it up the arse from the West for a very long time.

          • SC Dave

            Muslims have been murdering for centuries.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            So have Christians…WW1, WW2…

          • SC Dave

            Irrelevant

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            How so? I can easily make a blanket statement too.

            “Christians have been murdering for millennia”

          • willbest

            The distinction is Muslims have been murdering for centuries in the name of Allah and continue to do that today. It seems mind blowing to doubt them considering the consistency they have generally had on this issue for the last 1300 years.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            Yeah, right, and Christians haven’t done crazy shit in the name of Jesus?

            http://www.dreamindemon.com/2012/08/10/woman-cut-babys-arms-fired-walmart/

            If you want to argue that FANATICAL muslims are organizing to destroy the west, I can buy that.

            But if the majority of muslims wanted to do that, well, there’s over a billion of them.

            Then again, McVeigh was “christian”, and I’m pretty sure all those guys who went on shooting sprees were raised that way too.

            KKK was Christian, and most of those slave owners used the bible to justify themselves. And let’s not forget the “christians” who killed injians to extinction.

            Isn’t there something in the bible about casting the first stone?

          • willbest

            I don’t really understand your desire to be willfully dense on this matter. When the soldiers of Islam attack Belgium or France, there are millions of Muslims that cheer for their bravery and courage. When a woman does this you aren’t going to find a dozen Christians that agree with her.

  • CanadaBear

    Hey MB here’s a little ink on a canvas you might like. Maybe not. Read the comments. These guys kill me. Everyone of these guys are critiquing women while still being card carrying members of the virgin club.

    http://www.si.com/extra-mustard/2016/03/24/houston-rockets-free-throw-distraction-hot-clicks

  • The GP Experiment
    • willbest

      What kind of hard hitting questions do you think are missing? At least ones that couldn’t be easily dodged.

      • The GP Experiment

        I would not have let the McDonald question go with “we tried something, it didn’t work out”

        I would have followed up on the character questions there, for one.

        • willbest

          fair enough.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    RG3 signing with Cleveland.

  • The GP Experiment

    MB –

    Shooter loose in San Diego near Naval Base. This is not a drill.

    use Internet AWACS to track him. Your mission: take him out

    http://internetawacs.jesterscourt.cc/launchfeed-majorincident.php#

  • The GP Experiment

    Sac –

    Got something for you to ponder, since I think you think this is a brown face v. white face thing that we are talking about. Because it’s not.

    This kid right here:
    http://imgur.com/lsh47fN

    His name is ‘Elder’ Mason Wells. Lives in Utah, is a mormon.

    He was:

    * A block away at the Boston Marathon bombing
    * A block away at the Paris shootings
    * Injured in the bomb blast at Brussels airport

    Is this kid the most unlucky SOB in the world, or is there something else going on here?

    • willbest

      My theory is by 2055 Wells makes Mao, Stalin, and Hitler look like some people with a civil dispute over policy. In the year 2297 the time machine is invented and they are trying to come back and take this big bad out. Unfortunately, they keep getting bitch slapped by the law against paradoxes and are unable to materially change the past in order to effect the future.

      • The GP Experiment

        He’s like a Mormon Kyle Reese.

      • Sactowns#1

        That’s a very 12 monkeys take you have there. I like it.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      To add a little perspective:
      He was in France during the Paris attack, as far as I’m reading, not Paris.
      Average attendance at Boston Marathon: 500,000
      Number of daily travelers passing through Brussels airport: 52,000
      It’s really shitty luck to be in that kind of proximity, like shark attack luck, but not so unlucky as to be impossible.

      • The GP Experiment

        He’s a Mormon traitor to ISIS. Hang him!

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          Utah HATES Trump. I kinda understand because of his loud mouth NY personality, but I was surprised FOX cited that Utah also doesn’t like his anti-islamic rhetoric since they too were once persecuted for their religion.

          Birds of a feather? Does ISIS wear magic underwear?

          • willbest

            A lot of the hate Trump in the GOP party will go away once he starts to play nice. Trump is really unscripted as a candidate. That is why he keeps flip flopping because he is just throwing it out there. But when he has to stick to the script like AIPAC, he can do the dance. They will come around by the general. At least come around enough that he won’t have to worry about the Great Plains or Mountain states.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            Usually both Dems and Reps grudgingly fall in line after primaries. I see this happening with Bernie supporters who don’t want Hillary, but better than Trump (when Bernie drops out). Heck, Bernie might even be VP. He def got Hillary to go more left.

            However, the attacks on Trump from the right were pretty vicious, and I have to imagine that Cruz and Rubio backers (and to a lesser extent, the rest) despise Trump just as much, or just feel he’s a WWE character.

            I think that might turn a lot of the ‘fall in line’ voters off, but it might be mitigated anyways because for every ‘conservative’ he turns away, he attracts some pissed off guy who probably wouldn’t have voted.

            The real fear is that those ‘moderate’ conservatives won’t just stay home, but vote Hillary.

            I mean, “conservative” means to conserve (the status quo), and Hillary represents that the most.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I’d vote for Hilary or Bernie before I vote for Trump. He doesn’t have positions because he doesn’t care enough to have them. He’s an opportunist and sucks as a developer to boot.

          • willbest

            I might vote for Bernie over Trump. Only because I expect him to be completely neutered as a President, and we might get some real bill of rights liberals on the SC, not just the Garland/Kagan/Sotomayor types that will roll over to get their bellies scratched by Uncle Sam every time he wants something. At least with that type of liberal I will genuinely not know what the rule of law is until they decide it rather than whatever the executive decreed that week.

            But I will crawl over broken glass to pull the lever for Trump over Hillary.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You could just file for an absentee ballot.
            Unless you’re into that sort of thing NTTAWWT.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Pull the lever. You live in NY, don’t you?

          • willbest

            It sounds better than complete the arrow or touch a screen.

    • Sactowns#1

      HU? My earlier point is the media coverage, and by in large the popular sentiment is if brown people get killed in Africa or the Middle east its just par for the course. But if some white folks die then its a tragedys and if they die in a majority white country then we all have to put flags on our facebook profiles and declare a worldwide crisis.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        It is par for the course. It’s what they do. It’s what they’ve always done. The media reports that shit too. Africa is a shit show and always has been. When opposing tribal factions are killing and raping each other in Africa and committing genocide on each other or even when an muslim extremist group like Boko Haram is chopping people up it makes people mad and disgusted but it has far less impact on other parts of the world because the continent is closed off and it’s just what they do unfortunately.
        No one is worried about a Somali pirate floating over to a resort in coastal Carolina and chopping people to bits. Rest assured, I’ve barbequed Ribeyes for operators who are killing the fuck out of these dudes in Africa so believe me the US gov’t has noticed and is working with the AU to stop it. The shit they’ve seen face to face would change your mind fairly quickly about the seriousness of it all. It’s not about brown vs white skin. It’s about proximity and access to the rest of the world.
        On the other hand, people should be worried about an organization or huge group of fighters who not only excel at small scale slaughter but have the Trump like ambition of scoping our chemical and nuclear attack options to impose their Caliphate on the world. Sorry bro, that’s what people are concerned about because that shit goes beyond the Ivory Coast and North Africa and little villages.
        Groups of people that have a leadership structure and logistical support both in the middle east and in America and Europe and seek to wage war every single day is a cause for concern. They breed themselves into countries, sneak into countries using ACTUAL passports because they have the tech to do it. They almost secured 20,000 Spanish police uniforms…not for a huge Halloween party mind you but to wage war like a motherfucker in Spain and Western Europe.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          I think what Sac was pointing out is the difference in media coverage between this:
          http://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/mar/13/gunmen-open-fire-in-ivory-coast-tourist-resort
          or this:
          http://www.theguardian.com/world/mumbai-terror-attacks
          vs the Paris and Brussels attacks.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Naw, this was his point:

            “This is the weirdest thing to me. We have nutjobs killing 10, 20, 30 people at a time here in the US just about once a month. But a Muslim blows himself up and everyone loses their damn minds. Also, why is it we only mourn the bombings in countries with a majority white population. January, Burkina Faso attack kills 29. Not even a blip in the media and nary a mention here on the blog. But white people get blown up and suddenly this is news.
            Your odds of dying from the accidental discharge of a firearm, 1 in 7,984. Odds of dying from a terrorist attack, 1 in 20 million.
            “look at the monkey. Look at it!””
            This post is crazy. Sac even failed to point out that one of the “nutjobs” that just recently killed 13 people was in fact inspired to do so by ISIS and Islamic jihad and not because someone spilled punch on him at the Christmas party.
            Sac acts like these guys are just blowing up an M80 in an alley and fortunately just killing themselves….except that they are blowing up people in major airports and metro stations across the world to exact mass casualties. It’s fucking guerilla warfare and he acts like it should be just accepted and shrugged off.
            We do have crazy shit that goes down here and it’s usually domestic violence related or gang related or drug related but it’s NOT part of a group’s global mission to destabilize the West.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Fair enough. But you get my point? Same war, same tactics, different location – completely different levels of media coverage and social media “awareness”.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I get your point but I was leaning more towards having an issue with his continued stance of playing down the seriousness of what is actually happening with Islamic terrorism in the Europe and the US.

            When people throw out stats about how little chance you have of being killed by terrorism yet the threat keeps growing and you’ve personally had a friend killed by terrorism it gets a little annoying.

          • Sactowns#1

            Amen

          • SC Dave

            This part is certainly true.

          • Sactowns#1

            Oh no the big bad boogeymen are coming for us. Only theyre already here. They’re angry, majority Christian, majority white and they go around shooting dozens of people at a time. Why not just debate the hard facts? You are FAR more likely to die from the accidental discharge of a firearm than you are of terrorism. So why all this focus on terrorism? Why not talk about the domestic terrorists we already have?
            And I guess my second point will just go unaddressed.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I’ve had a friend die in Tower 2 Sac so it’s very real to me. There are many threats on this earth and I know people are just one of many but for you to act like white Christians are the biggest threat out there is lunacy.
            I don’t know where to start with your second “point”.

          • Sactowns#1

            For me, living here in America, yes. Crazy white guys with guns are far more likely to kill me than any foreign extremist. It’s just a statistical fact. I’m sorry for your loss, but it’s an anecdotal fallacy. http://www.nsc.org/learn/safety-knowledge/Pages/injury-facts-chart.aspx

            Do I think it sucks? Yes. Do I think we should do something about it? Yes. But all of this “We’re gonna hunt em down and kill em” bs wont solve a single thing because really all we’re doing is bombing whole neighborhoods and killing more innocent people than terrorists. That is also a statistical fact.

            In July 2009, Brookings Institution released a report stating that in the United States-led drone attacks in Pakistan, ten civilians died for every militant killed
            .

          • Cormonster

            If you want a really high likelihood of being shot, go spend a weekend this summer on the south or west sides of Chicago. It’s not even the killing season yet, but there’s already been like 720 shootings and 130 homicides. I’m guessing not too many white folks were pulling the trigger in those shootings.

          • SC Dave

            Nor too many Christians…

          • Cormonster

            A couple months ago I was listening to a public radio program about mass shooters. The guest for the hour said that whites and blacks commit about the same percentage of mass shootings as they are in proportion to their population in the US. He also said that Hispanics commit way less of these shootings that their proportion of the population, and that Asians commit way more shootings than their proportion.

          • Sactowns#1

            Depends on your definition of “mass”. Many domestic violence cases are considered “mass shooting” by some due to the fact that more than one person is shot. This is not the common understanding of the definition of mass shooter.

          • Cormonster

            I’m not 100% sure, but I thought it was 5 or 7 people being shot.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I’m sad that you’re bringing in the “what are the odds of ” section of the NSC website to somehow defend your position that it’s insane and illogical that we are concerned about global terrorism while the sleeping giant…..white Christian males….go unchecked here at home. You choose when and where your global awareness is focused on and yet ignore events happening that keep military advisors, security personnel, special ops, policy makers and others up at night. Who cares what the American, German, French and British Heads of state say, look at this fun little chart I found on the web. God damn, even Russia knows it’s an issue.
            I’m done man, back to football.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            nsc.org is fucking useless and it defies logic when applied in a real world situation. Don’t use bombing examples from 7yrs ago when what we are doing right now are surgical strikes and spec ops missions killing specific guys in specific areas of the world.

          • Johnnywad

            Well we do spend billions upon billions of dollars and the careers of thousands of the best and brightest people we have in an effort to stop them from killing us en masse. If we were to balance the equation, and take half of that and devote it to stopping random, white Christian males and accidental firearm discharges, we’d all be dead in about two weeks. You think they aren’t getting us here at home because they’re not trying? It’s not really a valid comparison until you factor in what’s being done to prevent each from happening.

          • Sactowns#1

            I have an elephant stick that I bought on safari in Africa and it was blessed by a shaman. It must work because I brought it home and since its been sitting on my shelf I haven’t been attacked by an elephant.

          • Johnnywad

            Okay.

            My point is this…..you’re saying you’re far more likely to die of an accidental firearm discharge or local nutjob than terrorism here in the US. This is true. But it isn’t true because the accidental firearm discharge is a bigger threat. Its because you have an army, literally an army, out there, across the globe, kicking ass on your behalf.

            Do you think it’s coincidence that shit is blowing up in public in countries similar to ours across Europe, but not here? You think they’re tired of killing Americans? Or is it possible, that our people are better at protecting us than the others?

            You haven’t been attacked by an elephant, because we’re hunting them over there.

          • Sactowns#1

            Or is it possible there are two massive oceans between them and us?

          • Johnnywad

            Holy shit. You’re serious aren’t you?
            If only they could find some way, some how, to get people across the oceans. Thank God for those. Makes me wonder why we have a standing army at all, what with the oceans and everything.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            this is your chance to clarify that you’re certainly not comparing the efforts of our soldiers across the world doing the types of shit that would make you fucking puke out of fear to a blessed elephant stick as if it’s some theoretical exercise to keep you safe. That would be pretty damn disrespectful Sac.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            First of all the stat was Discharge of a Firearm. That means anything firearm related and includes, homicide and also SUICIDE. Isn’t suicide the the majority cause of death when firearms are involved?
            The very same stupid website that you cited says this RIGHT IN THE FUCKING paragraph:

            “Keep
            in mind these odds are statistical averages over the entire U.S.
            population and do not necessarily reflect the chances of death for a
            particular person from a particular external cause. Odds of dying are
            affected by an individual’s activities, occupation, and where he or she
            lives and drives, among other things.”

            So…..pretty much useless info you provided considering the context of your chance of dying from the hands of a crazed white christian domestic terrorist vs dying at the hands of a terrorist killing and plotting in the name of allah, or in your opinion, because he was feeling lonely and hopeless.

          • Sactowns#1

            Bingo!

        • Ribeyes for Operators

          I want to go as Spanish Police for Halloween.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            don’t forget the mustache. You can drunkenly feel up anyone as long as you have it.

        • Sactowns#1

          So you’re taking an entire continent of 54 countries, a continent the size of China, India the US, Germany, France, Spain Italy and a few others COMBINED and highlighting a few crummy actors and incidents to justify your indifference? Jesus Americans depress me sometimes. It’s like saying when Canada is attacked by terrorist “Have you seen whats going on in the US and Mexico. Theyre killing and raping people left and right.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            oh jesus, delete that bullshit comparison. Look at the fucking genocides, killings, rapings, decimation, starvation, disease ,etc. Not the Ivory Coast, how about Africa as a whole. A few crummy actors? are you fucking kidding me? Indifference? It’s not being indifferent to care more about what is happening in your own country than on another continent. I’m not justifying anything. I’m pointing out that it’s a hell of a lot more real when shit is going down in your own backyard or that it has a much higher possibility of happening in your own backyard.

        • Sactowns#1

          And since you think Africa is so scary here are some more facts for you http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/Cote-d%27Ivoire/United-States/Crime

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            i don’t mean to beat a dead horse now but holy fuck Sac, you just used an assault by Firearm comparison in a random country in Africa to try to illustrate how much more dangerous America is and how likely you are to meet your death or be assaulted at the hands of the white christian devil.

            What you failed to also mention or maybe you didn’t notice is that this tiny fucking country that you picked has a MURDER RATE FOURTEEN TIMES HIGHER THAN THE USA and this little country is ranked NUMBER 3 in the fucking world in murders. Oh my god, haha, i’m not even mad, just STFU. holy fuck. Are you fucking retarded? Did you not even notice that?

      • willbest

        Allocation of resources. I won’t speak to the accuracy, but since its supports my position

        Belgium population 12 million, newspapers 18
        Ivory Cost population 22 million, newspapers 8

        http://www.thepaperboy.com/newspapers-by-country.cfm

        And then you have to factor in language issues. The ability to verify information (I know a lost art in this day and age but still happens). And the fact that news pays the bills these days with celebrity gossip, and lifestyle so when something happens you might have a guy at AP there to file a couple stories about it but for the most part its a tree falling in the woods.

        Its as much economic as anything else.

      • SC Dave

        This is most assuredly true. Especially with respect to the ongoing tragedy that is Africa.

    • Bender McLugh

      right???? a little too coincidental man………..it very could just be coincidence, but that’s seriously crazy coincidence

      • Big Mike

        Mormons are the best door to door marketers.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          You can also put them to work.
          Next time they come with their bikes and helmets and you need to clean out ur garage, you don’t have to go to home depot.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      Remind me not to go ANYWHERE with him.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        The dude is a player, though. He scores MASSIVE amounts of trim.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          haha, best handle yet. I couldn’t take the madness anymore from Bernie’s nephew. I love him but I couldn’t take it.

    • Doc Nitty

      The Mormons are trying to convert those whom the Jihadists wish to destroy. I’ll take destroy.

  • The GP Experiment

    This article screams Waffle:

    STFU Kristin. Waffle has 40 kids, why can’t Jay? First Gase wants to cut his balls off, and now you?

    And do you REALLY need to tell us about this?

    http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/chicago-bears-qb-jay-cutler-vasectomy-article-1.2576232

    • Sactowns#1

      Oh thank God they announced this. I was on pins and needles wondering.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        haha, stop saying THEY as if Cutler has anything to do with this. ARGGGHHHH!!!

        • Big Mike

          Football conversation degrades mightily at the point of the season.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Big Mike, who are we fucking drafting mang?

          • Big Mike

            No clue. I’d like to see a DE/DT. I’ve seen DE/OT/CB/QB and LBs mocked to the Bears. Depends on BPA at positions of need. Nothing would shock me except ILB, OG, C or FB. Safety, CB, OLB, DE, DT, RB, QB, all could be great picks.

    • willbest

      Apparently she doesn’t care that it more than doubles your rate of prostate cancer or something. My wife proposed that after our third, and I said something like “Well what if you die? How am I supposed to attract a nubile 26-year old hottie if I am shooting blanks. She might want a kid, and it would be immoral to deny her that” She rolled her eyes at me and got an IUD. Probably a good thing on her part though because every now and then she gets a baby urge and if it were just some tablets she could stop taking we would probably have a 4th by now.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Kristin. why? It’s like she just can’t have people stop fucking bitching about Jay. Anti Vax, talking about therapy, sterilizing our QB. C’mon Kristin, do me a solid and shut it.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

        She didn’t become a reality “star” for nothing. She’ll probably show up at a Trump rally and start punching protestors next, and Jay will just shrug his shoulders.

      • willbest

        All I care about Kristin is that she has figured out how to maximize Cutler’s performance the best a woman can. If he needs to be sexually frustrated to bring his A game I expect her to keep her legs locked no matter her womanly desires. If Jay needs to be blown off dressed in a diaper, while she wears a cat suit listening to whatever this is…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cK3NMZAUKGw

        I expect her to do that too.

        • Jokey

          That’s what I said about Claire Underwood but the wife disagrees

        • Doc Nitty

          Jesus, it’s like Kiss at a Pokemon party.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Once again, NFL quarterbacks, marriage. I don’t get it. For the love of G-d, why do you get married? Is it so wonderful you can’t wait til you’re 36?

      • MB30SD

        Dumb cunt

        • Johnnywad

          Clear, concise, just really efficient. Well done.

  • Big Mike

    McShay’s mock draft had the Bears taking an OT- Jack Conklin. Leaving Sheldon Rankin, Ezekiel Elliott, Reggie Ragland on the Board.

    • CanadaBear

      And then talks about his best position is RT. Really?

      • willbest

        head meets desk. Can’t these people at least have watched 4-5 bears games before they do this.

        • Big Mike

          It’s an odd pick. I generally like McShay, but primarily because he’s not the other guy. I can’t remember his name, big stack of hair lives behind a pay wall at ESPN.

          • MB30SD

            They simply can pay attention to one team… they cover all 32.

            Thus, they suck… and don’t pay ANY attention

          • Big Mike

            It’s their only job. I’d be a hell of an analyst if it were my job. Figure i work 50+ hours a week. It would take a month or so to establish a base line on each team. Store research by team, then upkeep throughout the year. Seems like easy enough to know the Bears aren’t drafting the 3rd best tackle in the draft with the 11th pick of the draft.

          • MB30SD

            Most people suck at their job and are fucking dumb mike. And you know this maaaan.

            Half the vendors we work with are so fucking turrible at what they do, but here we are using them, cause every other competitor we’ve tried is exactly the same. Smh

          • Bender McLugh

            This. So much

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            As they say, never blame on malfeasance what can be chalked up to stupidity.

          • Big Mike

            It’s why be either been self employed or working at a company I built or owned for the last 20 years.

          • Big Mike

            Funny you should say that. I’m looking at my schedule for today and I have a vendor meeting today to remind them what their job is and of all the promises their sales team made. I also remind myself that 50% of the people in the world were in the bottom ½ of their high school class. I remember high school, those guys could barely function.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly mike. I could tell stories, but they’re really not worth my effort

      • Big Mike

        Oy..

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Please no. I could live with Conklin over Ragland, maybe, if he was being brought in to start at LT right away.
      But the other 2?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        And I don’t even want to draft a RB first round…but Conklin. No.

        • Big Mike

          Can’t say anything. Are you opposed to taking an OT at this pick, or just this particular OT?

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Taking the 3rd best OT that high, yeah, I think is unwise. And I’m especially concerned at the comments about moving to RT.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Tunsil would be very tough to pass up.

          • Big Mike

            Or Stanley… but by the time you’re taking the 3rd best guy at a position, you either have a different evaluation on the guy, are desperate at that position (not), or are named Emery or Angelo.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Here’s the thing on 3rd best guy. Jack and Smith are regarded as the two best LBs. Smith might lat into the second round, but we’re not drafting him at 11, so if we draft a LB we’re likely getting the 3rd/4th LB at best. When you’re picking at 11, that’s hardly great value. And like MBHAP says, if we’re getting the 3rd best OT …. what’s the point? get the best player at some other position, then down below, pick an OT you like. A sleeper.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Doesn’t sound like the Bears will have to face THAT choice.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I’ve previously endorsed Stanley who, supposedly, is excellent in pass protection, if he slips to #11 but if the talk about Conklin as a RT, would incline me to use the pick on defense.

      • Big Mike

        Don’t have a strong opinion at this point. Based on Fox interview from yesterday they like long, fast athletes. I don’t know how Conklin measures up. But he’s the 3rd OT taken. Laramie Tunsil, and Ronnie Stanley go at 1 and 8.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      I was actually thinking about this, and I love Conklin. Yes, he projects to RT, but he played LT and I think can be a competent LT.

      Gotta think of this too. How sold are we on Leno and Massie. What if both bomb?

      Then Jay is back to running for his life or getting hurt, not to mention Langford will have no holes to run through.

      Best way to counter pass rushers like Matthews is to run them over.
      Best way to prevent turnovers is to run them over.
      Best way to wear out a D is to run them over.
      Best way to keep your QB from getting hammered is to run them over.
      Best way to keep our D fresh and prevent their O from scoring is to keep possession and run them over.

      Conklin can definitely help do that AND be insurance in case Leno becomes Bushrod, or god forbid, if they go down with an injury.

      • Big Mike

        Don’t get me wrong. I love building the offensive line. It’s the greatest force multiplier in football. Good QBs become very good to great, running backs break off 5 yard carries instead of 2. RBs hit the home run more frequently when they are untouched to the second level. Receivers get balls that hit them in stride at the top of the route and so on. I just didn’t think Conlin was an 11th pick. Especially if he’s a RT. Bears would have three of those.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          Leno SUCKED at RT. So scratch him off the list.
          Massie, who knows? Good run, meh pass protector.

          And I agree. The chart might say RT at #11 is too high, but Conklin looks like a PB RT for the next decade, and more importantly, might be a good LT in case Leno does suck.

          Conklin next to Long gets me excited. Not to mention it would protect Cutler who has a slight inj history while making life easier for our young bucks in the backfield.

          Ideally, we can trade down a bit and snag him, but I could totally understand drafting him at #11, esp when Dline is so deep, and we already have two instant starters at ILB.

          Just thinking of our rivals, gotta play keep away from Vadgers, and Conklin will help do that.

          I think our team lacks an identity right now. But getting Conklin will instantly make us some badass maulers that are gonna bring the nasty, eat up clock, while Tre and McPhee lock it down on the other end.

          That’s my 2 cents. But if I had to choose between say Conklin and Buckner I’d still want the latter even though Conklin might grade higher at this stage.

          • Big Mike

            Good thoughts. I was all over Stanley with 11 if he was there. For all of the same reasons you mentioned. Identity, build on a strength and so on. For me it’s not about OT, but about the player. A player take at 11 (other than QB), needs to contribute in yr 1. If he can’t beat out Leno, he’s not likely to beat out Massie. I have high expectations for Massie. His pass protection grades were almost undoubtedly worse because Carson Palmer moves like a piano.

            If the Bears see him as a LT and worth the 11th pick, I’m going to be pumped.

            You think there is a shot Buckner is there? Most mocks have him gone before the 10th spot.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            It’s hard to say. In some ways, he reminds me of Arik Armstead last year. An unrefined pass rusher with a massive frame and upside. He dropped to the 9ers at 16.

            Buckner is sort of in the same boat. He’s an “upside guy” and a lot of GMs in the top 10 become very iffy about those type of projects.

            The nfl is littered with Dion Jordans.

            I think there’s a realistic chance that Buckner or Jack might be there at #11 for us (Jack for diff reasons).

            It might hinge on the run for QB. If the Browns draft a QB 2nd, then other teams might panic and try to trade up to get Goff which means others will drop.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We just paid Massie. If we’re drafting an OT he’s got to go in at LT. If Leno isn’t the man at LT, then he’s not the man at RT, he’s just not the man, but I’m happy to have him sit on the bench.

            If we go LT in the first, it’s a good thing. We can grab Jihad (or DE BPA) in the second.

  • CanadaBear

    Bears bringing back Deonte Thompson. Best returner for the Bears last year.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      good move

    • willbest

      I still hope they draft somebody.

      • CanadaBear

        The same article from Biggs said they are bringing in somebody for a visit. Knowing Pox they will keep looking.

    • Jokey

      Is he just for kickoffs? So Mariani is our PR right now?

      • CanadaBear

        Hopefully Thompson will handle both. I’m sure the Bears will keep looking. Mariani plays hard and showed a glimmer at WR last year but he is nobody’s idea of a PR.

        • Johnnywad

          I’d call him a fair catcher. Anything more than that is bonus gravy.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

            He couldn’t even get that right. Didn’t he muff a few punts?

            Though, to Mariani’s credit, he did say he felt overwhelmed last year.

            Plus, he’s got a hot wife. So there’s that

          • Johnnywad

            I thought he was pretty sure handed. It’s possible he dropped a couple but I don’t recall. Bottom line is he’s pretty replaceable as a returner. I’d keep the guy around though. While limited athletically, he’s proven pretty clutch now and then. Plus yeah, the wife thing. He gets extra credit.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I thought he showed some promise.

  • Ribeyes for Operators

    Having been cancelled on by AC/DC this weekend in Cleveland, where I was headed to see them for Easter Sunday (yes, Trac, I am the devil and that is proof) – I wish to say:

    Having Axl Rose join AC/DC is the worst idea in rock history.

    http://www.alternativenation.net/malcolm-young-son-claims-axl-rose-is-joining-acdc/

    • Sactowns#1

      That would be pretty terrible. Especially since the last time I heard him sing he sounded like crap.

      • CanadaBear

        Even if he could sing, he’s such a bitch I couldn’t bring myself to pay money to see him (even if the rest of the band was killer).

    • MB30SD

      Fat axel???

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

        And I thought Val Kilmer looked like a Danish dyke (NTTAWWT)

    • Doc Nitty

      That is indeed turrible.

      But now you got me thinking. Worst ideas in rock history…

      David Lee Roth leaving Van Halen.
      Getting in an airplane.
      Hiring Mutt Lang to produce your records.
      Sammy Hagar joining Van Halen.
      Nelson

      To name few. But yeah it’s up there.

      • Cormonster

        Hard to top Van Halen to Van Hagar. That was just terrible.

    • Irish Sweetness

      R.I.P. AC/DC

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Since RG3 will either backup or start, and Cleveland is still allegedly taking Wentz or Goff…
    McCown will be available…but likely out of our price range and headed somewhere to be a plug-in starter.
    Oh well.

    • willbest

      Who still needs a starter?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Denver, San Fran, NYJ, etc.

  • willbest
    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      and it wants to vote for Trump

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

        Build a firewall a 100 feet high, and equally as effective.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      If you put an adaptive AI into a room full of assholes, it becomes one.

      Try to imagine coding a bot that posts here like the regulars do.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Cutler’s contract had one bad year. And it was upfront. He’s now underpaid.”

    That sounds like an agent.

    No, he’s not underpaid. He just got his money up front.

    • willbest

      Its been my experience, most people don’t understand time all that well.

      Although in this case both statements can be true. Cutler signed a 7yr 18 million a year deal. Which looked like he was being paid as a top 10 QB, but now in 2016 we realize he is just making non-rookie QB minimum.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        Most people tick away the moments that make up the dull day. They fritter and waste the hours in an off-hand way. They kick around on a piece of ground in their home town, waiting for someone or something to show them the way.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Burma- Shave…????

        • Doc Nitty

          Tired of lying in the sunshine? Staying home to watch the rain?

          • Irish Sweetness

            The tolling of the iron bell
            Calls the faithful to their knees
            To hear the softly spoken magic spell

            (drops dead)

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Doc, you see that Cutty is getting ornamentalized?

          • Doc Nitty

            Negative. Smart man. You there yet?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            nope, still sprayin and prayin

        • Irish Sweetness

          When I come home cold and tired
          It’s good to warm my bones beside the fire

          • Doc Nitty

            You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      He was paid more than Rodgers but performed worse than Bortles, then quit and was benched.

      That’s why ppl were pissed off at that contract initially.

      The million dollar question going forward was – can he recover? Can he stop throwing INTs at the worst possible times?

      Jay seems to have somewhat proved he did get over that hump.

      But now he’s got yet another OC and somewhat new personnel on a full time basis (White, Royal, Miller, Langford, Massie…), so I’m not as bullish as some others.

      Saying he’s underpaid is like saying I’m Einstein in a room full of retards. Just because other teams OVERPAID questionable QBs doesn’t make Cutler underpaid, and I’m no Einstein even if I hang out with tards.

      • MB30SD

        Good analogy… for you.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          I was this close to saying I’m no Einstein even when I hang with MB…THIS close…

          • MB30SD

            Perfect… if you ever stopped being such a wuss and actually came down to hang, sure.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          Oh, and who do you like in the draft? at #11?

          • MB30SD

            Erin vadgers?

          • MB30SD

            Shaqwagon

      • willbest

        They aren’t really overpaid. The league consensus is that a comptent starting QB is going to either be on a rookie contract, or taking up 12% of your cap. And in point of fact Cutler is relatively cheaper now than he was in 2011 and 2012 when the Salary cap was $120ish mil and he was making 15 million

      • AlbertInTucson

        We’ve since learned what a dumpster fire that coaching staff was.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Garry Shandling dead at age 66

    • MB30SD

      Damn. That sucks. He used to be funny

      • AlbertInTucson

        Shandling Quotes:

        “I’m too shy to express my sexual needs except over the phone to people I don’t know.”

        “I’m dating a woman now who, evidently, is unaware of it.”

        “I once made love for an hour and fifteen minutes, but it was the night the clocks are set ahead.”

      • AlbertInTucson

        Born in Chicago. raised in (wait for it) ….Tucson, AZ.

    • Ribeyes for Operators

      He was good in Iron Man.

    • Sactowns#1
      • Ribeyes for Operators

        At least he got a ride in a 930 Turbo.

        • Sactowns#1

          When Jerry says he loves the color I just chuckled.

    • BearDown100393

      The Larry Sanders Show was brilliant and prophetic. Shandling was smart enough to let Jeffrey Tambor and Rip Torn carry the comedic acting along with a smart script to do the talking.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He was a very, very strange man.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grg37qaxKjI

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog ‎@dabearsblog

    “We are losing legends in 2016. People who changed the world for the better. And many before they should leave us. It’s fucking awful.”

    Sorry, Blogfather, but it only gets worse the older you get.

  • MB30SD
    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      Anal. Probe.

      • Ribeyes for Operators

        They were from Centauri Prime, and they were faaaaaaaabulous.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          “The third trait to most UFO sighting is loss of time and butt ache. And lemme tell you, when I woke up on my stomach, my ass was hurting like you wouldn’t believe…”

          • Ribeyes for Operators

            “It was a close encounter of the best kind, if you know what I mean…”

    • Trac

      Hold on just a sec MB. Didn’t the invading spaceships in “Independence Day” have the ability to shroud themselves in clouds? Or was it in “War of the Worlds”? Or maybe it was in “Riddick”? I forget.

      • MB30SD

        All 3?

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    https://www.yahoo.com/gma/2nd-suspect-now-sought-brussels-subway-bombing-100726023–abc-news-topstories.html

    More attacks foiled in France. 10hrs of surveillance footage of a top nuclear scientist. 6 arrested in raids through Belgium today. Man, these lonely and hopeless feeling young men that just need to “be with a woman” are surprisingly ambitious. Lot’s of guys would sit on the couch and eat cold chinese and play Call of Duty if they were lonely and felt hopeless and couldn’t get a date.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

      Not getting laid will do crazy shit to a young man.
      That’s why the first question to any serial killer is, “Can’t get it up?”

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        i mean, the first question once they’ve been handcuffed….

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          Yes, or it would turn into the last question.

      • willbest

        So what you are saying is the Japanese, who are on the forefront of sexbot technology, aren’t just looking to make high end masturbatory aids, they are really on a quest for world peace.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd Abbacadabra!(ButchDeadLift)

          I’m no theologian, but I don’t think boning a robot is prohibited by the Koran.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Don’t think it’s unconstitutional either.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Look at the Catholic church. Exhibit A.

  • Doc Nitty

    On the argument about why certain things get more headlines than others? I’d offer irregularity as another factor. Brussels is a mostly peaceful place. When shit blows up, people take notice. When shit blows up in Africa it’s like telling people it’s raining in Seattle. We know. It sucks but we already know. Tell me it’s snowing in the Serengeti and we’ll see 24 news anchors on camels.

    • Johnnywad

      Well put Doc. I hadn’t thought of that angle but that definitely weighs on our reaction.

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