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The Callback

| December 5th, 2016

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It almost didn’t happen.

Matt Barkley’s callback was scheduled for noon Sunday but weather conditions were making it unlikely he’d be able to perform. Behind the table we were resigned to waiting another week, for a game in Detroit, to see whether 4th quarter #Barkleytime vs. Tennessee was real or just a figment of our quarterbacking imagination.

Then he arrived. A minute and fifty-six seconds before we broke for lunch, Barkley walked in. New sheet music. Less adventurous than the earlier Being Alive. He handed the pianist a jazzy, cooled up arrangement of Let it Snow.

And he sang it note perfect. Note. Perfect.

     Reader: Hey Jeff.

     Jeff: What’s up?

     Reader: Enough with the metaphor.

     Jeff: Okay.

Matt Barkley has now started two games in the NFL for the Chicago Bears. And if he were a Bears fourth-round pick and not a 26 year-old “journeyman”, fans would be discussing whether Ryan Pace stole a long-term starter in the middle of the draft.

Nobody was more critical of Barkley’a prospects pre-Tennessee than I was. “He can’t play” I wrote time and again. Guess what? I was wrong. He can play. And there’s a chance he can really play.

#Barkleytime’s first two starts have been a better debut than any Bears quarterback of the modern era, with the possible exception of Brian Hoyer. (This sentence should get everyone off Dowell Loggains’ back.) Better than McNown, Miller, Grossman, Orton. Way better than Jay Cutler, who threw the ball four times to the Packers in his debut.

Barkley got off to a shaky start against the Titans but he’s some Josh Bellamy drops away from 600 yards and a half dozen touchdowns. In two games.

These were just the auditions, however. Now the Bears face a final stretch of games that could very well determine Barkley’s status within the organization moving forward. All four opponents (Detroit, Green Bay, Washington, Minnesota) are competing for the postseason. Three of the four can score points in bundles and will put pressure on the Bears offense to do the same. And perhaps most importantly, three of the four are division rivals and the Bears still have an opportunity to finish the year with a better than .500 record against their local foes. You may think this a meaningless thing but I assure you John Fox will use it as motivation throughout the offseason if they accomplish it.

“We’re every bit as good as the three teams we need to beat to make the postseason!”

It all starts Sunday.

Detroit may be a flawed division leader but they are leaders of the NFC North nevertheless. If Barkley can lead the Bears into Ford Field and deliver another solid performance, if he can lead the Bears to another victory with a convincing performance behind center, what else could he possibly need to achieve to be considered for the starting role moving forward?

I don’t know if it will happen. I still don’t think it will. But right now, I’m open to it. And that’s a long way from where I was two weeks ago. That’s how good Barkley has been through two games. And if Bears fans want to finish this 2016 campaign with intense optimism for next year, Barkley being the real deal would surely help the cause.

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  • Big Mike

    From Adam Hoge’s column in the Suntimes “It might be hard to accept, but the Bears’ 9-19 record in the last two seasons is much more a product of the damage Emery did to the roster than anything Pace has failed to do since he took over. While no one inside Halas Hall has admitted it, this was and continues to be a major rebuilding project.”

    http://wgnradio.com/2016/12/04/hoge-pace-is-making-progress-with-bears/

    • MB30SD

      Yeah, 100%. I am and have been a staunch pace supporter.

      I’m also a staunch supporter of firing weekend at Bernie’s post haste. Dude’s checked out.

      • Big Mike

        Who is weekend at Bernie’s?

        • MB30SD

          fox…

          cause he’s basically clinically fucking dead, but still being propped up by halas hall on the sidelines like he’s still a living breathing NFL HC who actually gives a shit about how this team does.

          • BearDown100393

            Fox talks like Frank Pentangeli.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Frankie 5 Angels.”

      • beninnorcal

        Agreed. I was kind of excited when I heard the Bears were pursuing him, mostly because I was caught up in that hype. Prior to that I wasn’t too keen on Fox. Take away his seasons were he inherited a HOF QB, and his record defines mediocrity.

        • MB30SD

          I was WAY excited. Finally a real pedigreed NFL coach with a trackrecord of success!!!

          Here’s what happened. He had the heart attack and his doc basically said, you can’t be excited all the time. So right as this goes down, we come along and pick up the steve fucking wright of coaches. smh.

          AKA Weekend at Bernie’s

        • Irish Sweetness

          Doesn’t his record reflect the crapness of the Bears team? How were we supposed to win games leading the league in IRs?

          The crew was getting three years before their day of judgement. I wish Foxy all the best for next season.

    • Scharfinator

      Can’t think of any stud’s from the Emery era outside of Kyle Long.

      • willbest

        And you know Jeffery. And Leno. In fact, about the only thing Emery was good at was finding key players. The filler guys is where he just sucked.

        • Scharfinator

          Oh duh, can’t forget Jeffrey!

          Jury is still out on Leno for me, but I agree that he hasn’t been shit.

          He was also bad at finding a head coach.

          • CanadaBear

            I wasn’t sure if you left Jeffery out of it because of the suspension or injuries. Both are valid criticisms. The way Pace likes to horde cash I think they let him walk. That’s also the reason I think they cut Jay loose. Who knows? I’d like to see them re-sign Alshon at a fair price but have no idea what that price would be.

      • BearDown100393

        Brock Vereen…… in the 4th round

        • MB30SD

          FUTURE HO…. ah, fuck it. never mind.

          • BearDown100393

            Ho…. sounds right

          • Huge Bears Penis

            lol, i wouldn’t even try it on that one either.

        • Scharfinator

          STUD

    • BerwynBomber

      PE also hired Trestman and made Jay Cutler the highest paid QB in the league — after we had already seen four years of Cutler and had a decent read on what he was and wasn’t.

      • willbest

        That is such a bullshit stat. 1 year Cutler’s front loaded money created a situation where he was the player with the highest paid out actual dollars due to it being a down year for big money contracts. But he wasn’t the highest QB cap hit after they restructured his deal to bring Jared Allen in. Drew Brees, Big Ben, Peyton Manning, and a few other had the same or slightly larger cap hits.

        Largest actual dollar payouts

        2016: Luck (42 mil), Fletcher Cox (27 mil)
        2015: Big Ben (36 mil), Manning (~40 mil), Cam (31 mil) Suh (26.5 mil)
        2014: Cutler 22.5 million
        2013: Matt Ryan (30 mil), Tony Romo (26 million)

        • BerwynBomber

          No it is not bullshit. In 2014 Cutler was the highest paid QB in the league. It is fact. $22.5M. It is in your list.

          • willbest

            Its bullshit because its not relevant to anything. It doesn’t signify anything about Cutler’s ability, or Emery’s judgment with respects to him.

            Big Ben had an 18.9 million cap hit in 2014, and Jay Cutler had a 18.5 million cap hit in 2014. According to the NFL Big Ben made more money than Jay Cutler in 2014. According to the IRS? Well who the fuck knows what the accountants do with it.

            You keep rolling it off as if it were some crime against nature. That Emery or Cutler bragged about it and how it signified how awesome he was. It was merely a function of cap, tax, and cashflow management. I mean FFS, would you really feel that much better about the contract if it was 18-18-18 denying Cutler a spot in the top 5 paydays that year instead of 22.5-15.5-16. It wasn’t even an impressive payday by recent history.

            The Texans cut Brock Osweiler checks totaling $21 million this year for crying out loud. He just didn’t earn the status of highest paid player because the Colts were busy handing Luck $42 million, (and Flacco got another $40 million this year in handed out money). Both Wentz and Goff made $18 million this year and neither had thrown a ball in the NFL. Its all a function how many actual dollars the Billionaire is willing to spend on payroll, while maximizing cap space.

          • BerwynBomber

            Once again …

            Fact: Jay Cutler was the highest paid QB in the league in 2014.

            And …

            His contract was a BAD CONTRACT: if you would go back in time and offer Jay Cutler the same contract than I think you and Phil Emery would get along just fine.

            And “crime against nature”? You’re the one that reacts with the “such bullshit” responses when I mention it was a ridiculous contract.

            And just stop with this cap hit = salary nonsense. Wentz and Goff are being paid $18M apiece this year? Yeah, sure Will.

            Now go hug your Cutty doll …

          • willbest

            Wentz and Goff both got 17 million dollar signing bonuses plus their base salary. So yes, both of them made 18 million this year as far as Uncle Sam is concerned. And then they both make a couple million a year for the rest of their rookie contracts.

            But because I am channeling my inner BB, I will mention every fucking time Goff comes up that he got paid $18 million dollars to hold a clip board in 2016. I will also fail to mention that in 2017, 2018, and 2019 he got paid straight out of the petty cash draw in the Walton Manor, because the only thing that matters to determining proper value of a contract is the year the player got paid the most in.

          • BerwynBomber

            Their signing bonuses are spread out over four years. They don’t the get the $27M upfront. NFL teams, like most corporations (or in this case franchises), like to leverage their assets to the max, including their own liquidity.

            You should get your facts right before you start screaming in defense of Cutty’s contract.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            signing bonuses are paid out upfront. For Cap accounting purposes they are spread out across the contract. But they get the money upfront. This is the reason players are willing to restructure and convert money into signing bonuses, it allows them to get a bulk of money while the teams can spread it out because of the cap.

          • BerwynBomber

            No, they’re not. They often spread them out over the length of guaranteed portion of the contract. In Goff’s case, that is four years.

            Here have a look:

            http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/los-angeles-rams/jared-goff-18949/

          • Huge Bears Penis

            that is Cap accounting – the team is able to claim across multiple years but the players get the money up front. Click on the ‘Cash Earnings’ tab and you will see how much the player actually gets paid each year.

            the following article will explain the inner-workings of contracts.
            http://www.behindthesteelcurtain.com/pittsburgh-steelers-nfl-features-news-blog-long-form/2016/2/23/11064246/nfl-101-getting-a-grip-on-salaries-and-bonuses-in-the-modern-nfl

          • CanadaBear

            Here’s the way I look at it. BB is not a fan of Cutler so he brings up the highest pd stat (which is true). Wil likes Cutler so he soft pedals that stat and focuses on other “stuff”. My take, if Cutler were truly elite the contract was fine. Cutler is mediocre so the contract isn’t so fine. The first 3 years of it were crap with all the guaranteed money. It’s over, time to move on. Is his salary a good deal if he plays well? Yes. Is he going to play well? A LOT OF HISTORY says no. Why stay in this groundhog day scenario? Nothing will change until Cutler is gone. Not only that, Pace and Fox kinda, sorta get a do over with a new QB. If they stick with Cutler and he stinks again, they are both fucked and likely out of a job.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            yeah, I wasn’t going to get involved in the train wreck of a conversation, but when i see inaccuracies and misunderstandings of contracts, I had to speak up before it devolve into name calling. It is a cyclical subjective topic, that basically revolves around if a player “Deserves” a contract. As a fan I don’t care, players should do whatever they can to get the best contracts possible. Most fans can’t fathom the amounts of money in these contracts so when one does not work out fans look at what a player “deserved” and have to blame someone. Cutler’s contract is not the reason we had a historically awful defense and black holes of coaching staff for those years. The contract was pretty team friendly structurally giving an easy out after 3 years and it was on the high end of market value for QBs at the time. I have moved on from caring about Cutler, if he stays I am going to root for him. If he is gone I will thank him for his time and root for the player that takes his place. Unless it’s Hoyer, I hate fucking Hoyer.

          • willbest

            its a SIGNING bonus. You get it when you put your name on a sheet of paper. That is the term got its name. Ted Philips was there handing Floyd a check for $10 million dollars when the ink dried.

            But the NFL rules allow teams to pro-rate the bonus over the life of the contract up to 5 years. Its an accounting fiction for cap management purposes and allows teams to borrow money from future years. Its something the players want because it allows them to get them their money sooner. It also creates dead money which gives teams an incentive to keep them around.

            Jay Cutler’s contract was initially structured as a PAYGO, front loading it makes his cap hit cheaper in the future. He too restructured his contract into bonus form. This allowed the Bears to get $4 million extra in cap room in 2014, but take $1 million hits each year for the next 4 years.

            He still got the money immediately though. In fact, Ted cut him a check immediately. Because otherwise his base salary is prorated out over the course of the season. Its also why the Bears, should they cut Cutler in January, are going to carry 2 million in dead money in 2017. That isn’t money he is owed. Its money they already paid him that the league requires them to make right with the cap.

          • Irish Sweetness

            25M for Suh. That’s crazy.

            Cutty’s money was the cost of doing business at that moment in time. But as many of us pondered/bickered, there were cheaper options.

            I like that neither Barkley Shaw, nor Fales can hold a gun to our heads, we’ll just have the other two and be done with it. They’ve all showed promise. Drafting and developing a QB will take time (and a pick) that we don’t need to spend.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Next season will mark the 30th anniversary of Jim McMahon’s 25 start winning streak.

      25-0 from the end of the ’84 season to ’87. Three calendar years unbeaten.

      • Big Mike

        Unfortunately the Bears played 48 games in that time period

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  • willbest

    The best part about Barkley (from the Bears perspective) is that he is an RFA. That means we can slap a $2.5-4 million tender on him and receive draft pick compensation if we are unwilling to match another teams offer for him. It also means we don’t have to do something crazy like franchise tag him.

    • SC Dave

      Matching reasonable offers at this point would be the ticket.

  • MB30SD

    from last thread, because it’s a holy shit moment:

    From my discussion with HBP below.

    Here’s even more stats about the leagues IR issues: http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/inj

    We have the second most players on IR with 20 (TWENTY!!!!!). Only San Diego has more than us. But our IRed players are more expensive than them, so there’s that.

    • Weed Superman (GP)

      And it happens year in and year out.

      Statistically, over the course of a 10 year period, the Bears have to be in the Top 3 injured teams in the NFL. Top 3. Data?

      I actually chalk this up to SCOUTING. Or the lack thereof.

      Everyone in the league knew Kevin White had leg issues. Except us.
      Everyone in the league had Fuller falling on the board because they thought he was fragile. Except us.

      I remember when Kyle Fuller was on the board and the pre-draft guy thinking we would take Clinton-Dix (and everyone here screaming for Dix, we even had a running joke about how much we like Dix) and yet – Emery takes Fuller. And he’s JUST AS FRAGILE AS THE FUCKING SCOUTING REPORT SAID HE WAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      Unlike a lot of the blog here, I don’t chalk it that much up to S&C coaches. You get rotten eggs, you make a shitty foul tasting omelet.

      • willbest

        But on the flip side isn’t Myles Jack supposed to be dead by now. But I think they have been easing him in. He isn’t on the field all that much.

        • Weed Superman (GP)

          http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/kyle-fuller?id=2543681

          Projected as a SECOND to THIRD round talent with strength and size issues.

          Recommended to START ON ST, and bulk up after a season to D.

          What does Emery do? Throws the kid right in there, over-reaches on the pick and the kid lacks the sturdiness to hold up.

          But Emery liked that he played 2 positions in college.

          GOD, what a mother fucking moron Phil Emery was. Fucking Evan Rodriquez!!! he’s a H-back!!!!

          Fuck H-back, Phil. And fuck you too.

          • SC Dave

            And we thought Angelo sucked. Remember how happy we were to be rid of Jerry?

            Talk about careful what you ask for….

          • willbest

            Chris Williams Gabe Carmi. I mean its not like Angelo had a roster Emery could work with. It was a tear down rebuild when he came in, and it was tear down rebuild when he left.

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            which means he didn’t go take the project budget to Home Depot and buy quality wood and siding. He went and spent it on booze with his drunk uncle.

          • MB30SD

            leave it to us to bring on two shitbags in a row. smfh

          • MB30SD

            doooooood. Shady and I has the jetspacks.

            I played a bit last night. Fun. Besides that the controls are flipped. : /

            … and I can’t figure out how to kill other Mechs.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        so White had leg issues that everyone knew about but no one reported, and Fuller was fragile because of his build, like most all DBs. I will say I did not agree with Fuller as 1st round pick. But need to show some support for the pre-draft injury/fragile statements.

        • willbest

          Fuller was the first Emery pick where I didn’t go “wtf”. Yeah I wanted one of the safeties but he seemed like a safe pick from what I knew about him at the time.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Gronkowski had back issues and everybody knew it.

          The Patriots draft him and he looks like a potential hall of famer.

          Until now.

          Chris Williams had back issues and everybody knew it.

          The Bears draft HIM and he just looks like a guy with back issues.

      • Captain Obvious

        “Everyone in the league” knew about White and Fuller? Funny, given that I’ve never heard that. And White has broken bones in his legs. There’s no way that’s a “leg issue.” If your leg breaks, that’s a “bone issue,” and no one was saying — even now — he has brittle bones.

        AP was considered “fragile” because he broke his collarbone twice. That’s why he dropped to the Vikings. Man, he’s been fragile, hasn’t he? That collarbone just won’t stay healed.

        Frank Gore tore BOTH his fucking ACLs in college. A lot of teams were scared off. He’s been fucking brittle as a a ritz cracker during his 11 years in the league, hasn’t he?

        We’ve seen plenty of guys get ripped in the pre-draft hype by “anonymous sources” because teams are trying to convince other teams there’s some “there” there, hoping that a guy will fall because someone buys the injury hype.

        Look, there are plenty of guys with genuine injury histories and questions about their durability. But the majority of injuries are freak things, like Wendell Davis ripping both patellar tendons on Philly’s crappy turf, or Marc Columbo doing nerve damage to his knee when he dislocated his kneecap, or Teddy Fucking Bridgewater dislocating his fucking knee and coming damn close to having his leg amputated. None of those are examples of guys with a “weakness” or a “history.” They’re examples of horrific injuries that just happened. I don’t buy that Fuller, or White, or Dix, or most guys are “prone” to injuries, given the dumb luck that seems to determine some injuries. Like Urlacher’s wrist. Like Napoleon McCallum’s knee. Like Theisman’s wishbone leg. Freak injuries happen. Show me a guy with a history of problems with the same body part, and then I’ll buy it. And I haven’t heard that Fuller or White had histories with the body parts that they’ve hurt while with the Bears.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The Chargers HAVE had their starting QB all season but they too, will play only 16 games this year.

      • willbest

        They found a statistically impossible way to lose their first 4 games though.

        • AlbertInTucson

          But, as we know, “Statistics are for losers.”

        • MB30SD

          yep

  • MB30SD

    “Bears will get a good draft pick. They’re playing with a decimated roster. I’ll take wins & the 7th pick over losses & the 3rd.”

    Hmmm… interesting.

    Votes, gents? (assuming the equation is right, which it doesn’t look to be… at all)

    I’ll go first… And with the #3 pick, the Chicago Bears select…. the best DB, second best DE, Best OL, or even best WR in the draft

    • Huge Bears Penis

      I simply can’t root for the team to lose. My mind and heart will not allow me to. However, I have conceded that the Bears suck this year, and losses will equal a higher draft pick. This has allowed me to cope with the losses better.

      • MB30SD

        like I said below. Down to the last minute! separated by only a point or two… annnnd… awwwwww, we didn’t pull out what would have been a total upset.

        I’m ok with this repeating… EXCEPT for the packers game.

        • SC Dave

          Precisely… EXCEPT the fucking Packers. In fact, losong to Detroit and beating GB would pretty much guarantee the fudge are sitting out the playoffs

          • MB30SD

            I would very much like that

      • Irish Sweetness

        We can root for the playoffs now apparently …. we’re technically on a one game winning streak.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      I thought I was getting to know you until you snuck in WR.

      • MB30SD

        just a little downside risk management my man. Who know’s what we do with Alshon… now that he’s a roider! ; )

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’d rather build a line for Jordan and QB than develop a child WR for three years.

          We have to hope Kevin develops positively, and have faith in Cam, MW et al.

          Build the wall.

          • MB30SD

            Hmmmmmmm

      • SC Dave

        Agree, although that kid at Western Michigan intrigues me. Guess we’ll see what he’s got in the Cotton Bowl.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I’m for Jabril Peppers. Whatever we think of Matt Barkley, I do NOT think there’s a QB in this draft worthy of the #3 pick.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Like it Al, and we’re likely in a spot to do it.

    • willbest

      Unless we do something crazy like win out, I think we are looking at a
      high of 7th and a low of 4th at this point. Browns, and 9ers and Jags
      aren’t catching us. But its possible we pass the Jets, Rams, and
      Bengals if we end up 5-11.

      To me, I want the best tackle, corner, or safety, or second best pass rusher in the draft (since we are no longer in the running for the best). With that many choices then it is easier to not care if we are drafting 7th because one of those 4 players will be there.

      Now if we do something improbable like win out and end up 7-9 while drafting 14th… Well then I am going to shed a tear for what might have been unless the consensus was wrong about our pick’s stud potential.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I think we’re good for corners, mang. We just had six sacks … I’d rather see a beast in there for Leno, and use Leno as a backup.

    • antityco

      I’m a Bears fan. I could never watch a game and hope that they lose.

      • MB30SD

        Again for like the 50th time… I don’t eever HOPE they lose, I just want the best draft position possible. And don’t feel horrible when they do lose.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s not hoping though … it’s more like expecting the loss and then not being pissed off by it.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If we’re not getting the best in Garret, then if the next guy down isn’t near his level, then draft the best LT or safety in that order.

      • MB30SD

        I like that plan

  • MB30SD
    • Huge Bears Penis

      awe that penguin is checking to see if that seal has any cavities, I love when different species work together.

      • MB30SD
        • Huge Bears Penis

          WHAT THE F…. WHY GOD WHY!

          • MB30SD

            hahahahahahaha… such a happy friendly smile.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            sometimes I think it would be fun to see your google search history. then again I am pretty sure I don’t want to see that.

          • MB30SD

            Meh, it’s actually pretty tame. I have very curious and tech savvy kids

          • Huge Bears Penis

            ah incognito mode then.

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            its your friend

          • MB30SD

            always

          • willbest

            That is why I logged URLs at the routers to spy on my kids.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s got the ‘Delete History on exit’ box checked … and ‘Especially the JAV sites’.

        • BearDown100393

          Rodgers meet Leonard Floyd

          • MB30SD

            let’s hope so

        • AlbertInTucson

          “I have to go now, Clarice. I’m having an old friend for dinner.” – Hannibal Lecter.

          • BearDown100393

            “I’ve had worse” – Ray Liota

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

    So, was scrolling through Netflix, and ran across an interesting title.

    Dieter Nuhr: Nuhr in Berlin

    https://www.netflix.com/title/80117532

    It’s basically a German stand-up comedian calling Americans gun-totting, racist idiots, citing the Orange One more than a few times as evidence (he is german)

    He even quotes Kant (as a good german)

    And oh, it’s not funny (cuz he’s german)

    It is a fascinating sociological investigation though.

    • SC Dave

      Few things less interesting than a German leftist. Especially one calling some other nationality racist.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

        I don’t think I’ve ever watched German stand-up. It’s interesting. They audience is def more reserved.
        It almost feels more like a lecture. In some sense, it’s uneasy, like they’re not allowed to laugh or something.

        He even brings it up at the beginning, how americans go around saying, “have a nice day” while europeans will say, “go fuck yourself”.

        • willbest

          Shit… Europe invaded NYC while we were distracted with Russia and the Middle East. Raze it and build anew!

    • willbest

      Is it in German, because standup blows if you have to read it. 80% of the joke tends to be in the delivery.

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        Jesus, Will, could you maybe just STFU when you feel like being a spoil sport?

        Much appreciated.

        • willbest

          How is that being a spoil sport?

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            A. Standup doesn’t “blow” is there are sub-titles. If it WERE in German, it might still be something interesting to watch.

            B. 80% of a joke is delivery but that is not always lost in translation.

            When the urge grabs you to regard something that somebody posted as negative, fight that urge.

          • willbest

            When you have an urge to be a douche, you should fight that.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Too MUCH weed?

          • willbest

            Butch literally said the guy was a stand up comic and it wasn’t funny but it was good social commentary. And I made an inquiry about the possible reason it wasn’t funny. GP gets his panties all twisted up, and somehow I am being the ass?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Obviously, something WAS lost in translation.

          • Johnnywad

            Al……. Paul Newman as “Sully” in “Nobody’s Fool”. Your thoughts? Just watched it last night for the second time in twenty years. Still holds up. One of my favorite characters.

          • BerwynBomber

            Fabulous small movie. Another somewhat like it is “You Can Count on Me”, starring Mark Ruffalo and Laura Linney.

          • Johnnywad

            I’ll check it out.

          • AlbertInTucson

            MMM. ALWAYS liked Laura Linney from her first appearance on LAW & ORDER.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I looked up Bad Robot’s hit ratio (JJ Abrams’ baby). The ONLY movie that lost money on their books was a great little film with Ruffalo as a bipolar guy looking after his two daughters … losing them … yada yada. Infinitely Polar Bear

          • AlbertInTucson

            I have only seen that once but WOULD happily watch it again.

            Newman was truly one of the greats, right up to the end.

            He’s terrific as Mr.Rooney in THE ROAD TO PERDITION.

            I fell asleep watching THE SILVER CHALICE a couple weeks ago.

            I can see why he hated that role. LOL.

            Newman films I enjoy immensely (In no particular order):

            THE STING
            BUTCH CASSIDY…
            ABSENCE OF MALICE
            THE ROAD TO PERDITION
            THE HUSTLER
            COOL HAND LUKE
            HOMBRE
            HUD
            HARPER
            THE YOUNG PHILADELPHIANS
            CARS (As the voice of “Doc Hudson”)
            FAT MAN AND LITTLE BOY
            SLAP SHOT
            THE VERDICT
            FORT APACHE, THE BRONX
            THE LIFE AND TIMES OF JUDGE ROY BEAN
            EXODUS
            THE RACK
            SOMEBODY UP THERE LIKES ME (As Rocky Graziano)
            NOBODY’S FOOL

            I believe that’s 20.

            I might have trouble coming up with THAT many for The Duke!

          • Johnnywad

            I’ve seen many of those. I’ll check out the rest. Cool Hand Luke is one of my favorites.

            “I can eat fifty eggs.”

          • CanadaBear

            The Duke made the same movie about 75 times so it’s kinda hard to come up with a long list unless you love The Duke. I don’t dislike him but I don’t love the old westerns as much as a lot of people.

            Really glad you didn’t list Color of Money. What a horrible film. I dislike Cruise so much I can’t watch his films. Fortunately that film was so disappointing I only watched it once and knew there were no performances worthy of a second viewing.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yeah, I am NOT a COLOR OF MONEY guy, either. He deserved an Oscar but it should have been for something like THE VERDICT or THE HUSTLER.

            Let’s see, the Duke…also no particular order…

            SHE WORE A YELLOW RIBBON
            RIO GRANDE
            THE HORSE SOLDIERS
            THE SEARCHERS
            SANDS OF IWO JIMA
            THE SHOOTIST
            RIO BRAVO
            EL DORADO
            RED RIVER
            NORTH TO ALASKA
            THE QUIET MAN
            STAGECOACH
            BIG JAKE
            …LIBERTY VALANCE
            THE COWBOYS
            HONDO
            TRUE GRIT
            THEY WERE EXPENDABLE
            HATARI
            THE HIGH AND THE MIGHTY
            THE SONS OF KATIE ELDER
            FORT APACHE
            DONOVAN’S REEF

          • CanadaBear

            Different plots, mostly the same character. Nothing against the Duke. I love the Marx Bros and they made the same movie every time. The early ones are classics and the later one’s not so much.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Ohhh, Canadaaaa, I could not disagree moooore…” (You know the tune for that line)

            “Mostly the same character” is a myth.

            I’ll admit there are lot of similar portrayals and movies where he’s just fulling the image of “The Duke” but I think you are selling him a bit short..

            The wronged, Ringo Kid (Stagecoach) is not the wistful Captain Brittles (Yellow Ribbon) who is not vengeful Ethan Edwards (Searchers) who is not the embittered Tom Dunson (Red River) who is not heartbroken Sgt. Striker (Sands of Iwo Jima) who is not wounded ex-boxer Sean Thornton (The Quiet Man) who is not reluctant soldier Col. Marlowe (Horse Soldiers) who is not estranged father, Rockwell Torre (In Harm’s Way) who is not drunken Rooster Cogburn (True Grit).

          • CanadaBear

            You’ve skipped about 50 horse operas!

          • Irish Sweetness

            And doesn’t Bridges blow the pants off Wayne in spades?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think it’s fair to see he was not a character actor .. which is to say he was not an actor in the true sense … Day-Lewis, Penn etc. Had he been in a room with Stella Adler et al he would have stood up, called them all faggots and walked out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Road to Perdition is a classic. It was a classic when it came out.

          • CanadaBear

            And who doesn’t want to see Melanie Griffith flash her boobs? I really liked that movie. Jessica Tandy was great in it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I thought he gave one of his finest performances in his last film. He didn’t need to make any more after that. He was right.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I had a German friend explain to me that German jokes don’t translate well to English. Especially when they involve words that we don’t have words for.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Another thing.

            That comic should worry about Germany because his liberal Chancellor, Angela Merkel, is also facing a conservative backlash.

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            Clearly I hit a nerve.

            Truth usually does

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

        Ja.

        Yes, I feel like I’m missing a lot, but it’s not as if the crowd is the Apollo either.

        He does bring up interesting points though.

        He thinks “nationalism” is a symptom of our primal drive to be better than our neighbors.
        (He lumps religion – and probably most other -isms- into this also)

        Or as he framed it – it doesn’t matter if you’re knee deep in shit, as long as the person next to you is neck deep in shit.

        Even cites a a capuchin monkey experiment to prove his thesis.

        Did I mention he was german?

        • Weed Superman (GP)

          Nationalism and racism are a simple group identity dynamic.

          In a world with scant resources, if my group is the majority and there is a minority that is perceived to be weaker, then it is to my benefit to participate in marginalization and negative stereotyping that minority.

          Pushing them to the edge means my culture stays the predominant culture. Which is good for me.

          Letting the minorities “off the mat” only ends in tears.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

            Jes. Freud’s “Other”

            I find that stand-up interesting because Germany in many ways is at the center of a lot of ideological fights.

            For one, the muslim refugee “problem”
            two, fear of islam and immigrants in general
            Nationalism -vs- EU

            And given their history with um, nationalism, “minorities” and “solutions”, maybe we should kinda heed them, or at the very least, listen to their comedians!

          • willbest

            Tribalism, minorities, and solutions are not unique to Germany, or Europe. Humans seem to be fairly universal about its implementation. The random isolated tribes in the Brazilian rain forest or whatever are the exceptions that prove the rule.

            I tend to think the fall of the US more closely aligns with the fall of Rome, as they both are multiethnic/cultural empires. Germany post WW1 was still Germany, it was just being decimated by the conditions placed upon it by WW1. This hardship united the German people and it was then harnessed for bad purposes. We don’t have this artificial hardship that is easy to cast off so much as we have a steady decline in economic power, political influence, and relative military might.

            The outer “territories” are starting to hedge their bets. See the way the Philippines, Turkey, even Japan and Europe are exploring alternatives. This will only accelerate as we become more focused on ourselves.

            California secession this round seems a step or two more serious than Texas last time, but still a joke. Perhaps in a decade or two when the Fed can’t keep the house of cards up, these will become serious movements.

            There is no White national identity. Not even in America. What Trump managed to do was convince the Midwestern Whites to join with the Southern and Western Whites against the Costal and Urban Core Whites.

            We are far more likely to have a Civil War than an ethnic cleansing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            All humans are genetically programmed to fear other tribes.

    • MB30SD

      (in thick deadpan German accent)

      I flew here all the way from Berlin…………….

      And boy are my vings tired.

    • Johnnywad

      You have too much time on your hands Butch. I would turn that shit off in less time than it took me to read your post about it.

      I’d rather watch Spongebob.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

    Not criticizing the idea of high picks. But arguing the difference between picking 3rd and 10th, historically, is not important. – Jeff

    Regarding high draft picks, it’s a lot like FF or Texas Hold em.

    To a certain extent, you gotta play the odds.

    Can Mike Evans bomb and some nobody like Adam Thielan blow-up any given sunday?

    Yeah.

    But what’s the probability of the one vs the other – week to week?

    It’s the same with draft picks. Theoretically, the higher the pick the lower the bust rates, and the high busts tend to be the “project” types.

    However, there comes a time when a person must suspend statistical skewing. Sometimes you just get a gut feeling (and this feeling isn’t random or some divine epiphany) about a player, and go for it

    But needless to say, sometimes that gut feeling makes u start Kap vs Bears, or draft Johnny Manziel, or chase straights on the river…

    • willbest

      You don’t know who is going to pan out. You know who you have highest rated (most likely to be a stud). Now if you are the Browns its probably better to just luck into it, but if you have a GM that is aces at evaluating talent, then you want him to have the most options and the place to do that is with a lower draft #.

      Of course bad GM’s tend to make bad choices, so good GM’s probably don’t care all that much that a few bad GM’s are drafting in front.

    • BerwynBomber

      Not to mention 3 vs. 10 can be duplicated each round. Or to think of it another way, drafting 3rd in the second as well is almost like having two first rounders.

      Blogfather’s objections, I presume, are based on those that wish to see the team lose and/or tank. And from a passionate fan of the team, his emotions are completely understandable. But yeah, pretty much the higher picks you have, the better shot you have in the draft. What was one does with that shot is something else entirely.

  • MB30SD
    • Weed Superman (GP)

      pretty crazy

  • MB30SD

    GPPPPPP!!! Yetpecks!!!

    • Weed Superman (GP)

      yessssss

      • MB30SD

        yeeeeeeeeeeesss…. tonight maybe

        • Weed Superman (GP)

          be on l8r

          • MB30SD

            ok

  • BerwynBomber

    Too bad Indy’s D isn’t a little better. Would be fun to see Fitz crap the bed on national TV.

  • SC Dave

    Wow! Decided to watch the game again. Did not realize how INSANELY FUCKED UP that personal foul called against Hicks on the first play fo the game was.

    Are you FUCKING KIDDING ME?!?

    • BerwynBomber

      It was touchy but any contact with a QB’s helmet can be flagged.

      • willbest

        Somebody said the Center basically threw Hicks at the QB. I figured that was a bit of an exaggeration.

        • SC Dave

          Not much of one, actually.

        • BerwynBomber

          It was helmet to helmet. Hardly a vicious hit, so yeah, a bit touchy. But certainly flaggable.

          I thought it stupid for Hicks to rile up the crowd immediately after the penalty was called — a Lamarr Houston-like move — but hey the guy apparently knew what he was doing. He had a helluva game.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Insane

    • SC Dave

      Now that I’m done watching it again, I have to give a shout-out to Nick Kwiatkoski. Better game than I’ve seen out of Trevathan all season.

      I think we have a player there. A *solid* #3 ILB at the least, if that game is any indication.

      • willbest

        Given the injury to Trevathan, Nick is going to be our starter for the first half of the season next year.

        • SC Dave

          If Kwiat always plays like he did yesterday, Trevathan may not get his job back.

  • BearDown100393

    The Jets are just plain dumb.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Show-off punter.

    Yeah, THAT’S what the game needs.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Jets look like a team that wants a new head coach.

    • willbest

      How is it that the Giants who have the same distractions as the Jets aren’t the same hot mess?

      The more I learn about the various franchises the more I am in awe at how much the ownership influences culture.

      • BerwynBomber

        Eli > Fitzpatrick helps a lot.

      • DaBearsBlog

        Ownership

  • AlbertInTucson

    Raiders-Chiefs.

    THAT ought to be worth a look.

    • willbest

      Yeah I am glad that is on one of the networks. NBC I think.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yup!

  • AlbertInTucson

    Let’s go, Jets!

    Give me a reason to NOT change the channel.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Colts return a stupid penalty.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Go, Matt, go!

  • AlbertInTucson

    More stupid pet tricks. Er, stupid JET tricks.

  • BearDown100393

    Todd Bowles’ head exploding – before or after half?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Surprised it hasn’t already.

      • Scharfinator

        He doesn’t get very animated from what I’ve seen. Lovie-esque.

        • MB30SD

          Shudder

  • MB30SD

    This game is so turrible

    • Huge Bears Penis

      but it’s a rating juggernaut, salvaging the poor ratings all year. Greatest Game of all time, Future HOFer.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Me gone. I think there’s a PAWN STARS repeat on over on the History Channel.

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  • BerwynBomber

    Interested to see if the Jets start Petty next week. After Mariota became impossible, I was hoping Pace might spend a third or fourth rounder on Petty. Crapshoot but he looked a little more than a system guy at Baylor.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Bowles has announced that Petty will start the Jets’ remaining games.

      • BerwynBomber

        Will be interesting to see if Fitzpatrick goes public with some grousing. He seems like a me-first guy. At least he came off like that earlier in the year.

        Having BMarsh so publicly behind him is probably not helping matters either.

        What a mess the Jets are. Makes one feel good about the Bears by comparison.

        • MB30SD

          Kind of… Actually, yeah. You’re right. They’re a total dumpsterfire without end in sight

        • AlbertInTucson

          If Fitz does, they would only be considered…(wait for it)…”Petty grievances.”

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  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Is this thing dead? Is NY on fire?

  • MB30SD

    Yeah, this thing on??? Herrroo?

    • CanadaBear

      I’m listening!

  • BillW

    Maybe I’m wrong about this – but didn’t the SF guy who thought he scored make a snow angel and get flagged for it? But I saw on the highlights last night that a Packer player made a snow angel and Berman thought it was clever. I assume he didn’t get flagged.

    Beyond the concept that the refs favor the Packers, is there a legitimate difference? There may be one – the Packer guy was already on the ground, so he didn’t “go to the ground” to celebrate – whereas the SF guy perhaps was standing up and then “went to the ground” to celebrate.

    No matter what – another example of the more rules you make and the more specific you try to make them, the more inconsistencies seem to pop up.

    • CanadaBear

      I think you hit the nail on the head with your first sentence in the second paragraph. No need to look further!

      • BillW

        I did a little research and from a couple articles I figured this was the logic –
        SF got the flag not for the ball carrier making the snow angel but because another SF player did it too. “Choreographed celebration” I guess.

        The Packer player slipped and fell after catching the TD as so was in fact on the ground.

        But I’d rather complain about the Packers being the refs favorites, because they are.

        • That Guy

          I’ve seen a couple of refs comment that the “going to the ground” rule was the reason for the flag.

          I have never understood the flag. The NFL is trying so hard to make the breaks more interesting – here you have players who are genuinely putting effort in to entertain fans during stoppage time and they get flagged for it.

          Let the fans and the players enjoy themselves.

          • CanadaBear

            Couldn’t possibly agree more. As long as it isn’t taunting, let them have some fun.

    • SC Dave

      No, the difference was the entire 49ers team went to join him in the celebration in the end zone. Like the old “fun bunch” or whatever they called those chumps on the Redskins.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Just rewatched Bears/Niners, w/hefty fast forwarding early. Defensive effort was really eye opening. You’d never know that’s a 2 win team.”

    Yes, but, it WAS pretty obvious the OTHER guys were a ONE win team.

    • AlbertInTucson

      AND the Lions should be pretty fired up to avenge one of their losses.

      • willbest

        Bears got this. 5-1 in the division baby!

        • AlbertInTucson

          That would be a stunner.

          • MB30SD

            abject shock is more like it

        • Big Mike

          I could live with that. 6-10 drafting low teens.

        • SC Dave

          We better lose. Otherwise, we will lose to Green Bay and beat the Vikings, giving the Packers two full games on every other team in the division. In other words, winning the NFC North for Green Bay.

      • Big Mike

        It will be a fun game. I’m really hoping the offense does enough to let the Defense show what it can do.

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    • Big Mike

      Exactly. There is some talent on this team. This performance was without both starting ILBs, For whatever he is worth Kyle Fuller, McPhee at 70-80% who else was missing on D? Also .. a bad sloppy field favors the O – Line. So the push we were getting was in detrimental conditions.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

        Think Amos was hurt too.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          not sure if that’s a loss or a gain with how he’s been playing lately though.

          • Big Mike

            not sure, but I’m hopeful.

        • Big Mike

          Closer to being good than our record shows

  • CanadaBear

    Me either. That’s why I went all Frasier Crane on ya! I have no idea if Barkley has the goods but if he plays decently down the stretch he deserves a shot next year. Don’t care what they do with Hoyer. If they bring him back, fine, if not, fine. I’m sure Shaw will be back and whoever they draft this year. If Pace doesn’t draft one this year and the Bears stink next year, he’s in serious trouble. You and I both feel the same way about W@B’s.

    • MB30SD

      yep.

      IFF barkley has 4 more games like the last (I am highly dubious of that possibility based on the competition), then he 100% should be the starter coming into camp.

      Thus, for me it would be:
      1. Barkely
      2. Hoyer
      3. Shaw
      4. New guy?

      And let them fight it out in camp/preseason/first quarter. If we get one decent starter out of the bunch we’ll be ahead of where we are. the rest of the units need to take that next step, we maybe need a better specials coach and DEF all new S&C peoples.

      Oh, and a HC who gives a rat’s ass

      • willbest

        Oh for the love of all that is holy not you too. Bring back Joshy Football after the Browns cut him for your #2. At least he can throw it down the field. Or Glennon or Nick Foles, or the 3rd/4th round developmental QB. Anybody but Hoyer. I die a little inside every time I see him try to get it down field.

        • MB30SD

          As your #2?!? Dude, what is it with you and a couple other dudes (can’t remember who) about being sooooo against Hoyer?!?!?!

          Let me show you something will: https://imgflip.com/i/1fgnpx

          Yards, TDs, TOs, Passer rating.

          Are you fucking kidding me?!?!?! As your #2!!??!?

          Dude, send me some of the fucking crack laden heroin you’re mainlining. For all that’s holy dude.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            As your #2?!? the guy should not be on the team. Fuck Hoyer in the face.

          • MB30SD

            **GASP!!**

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

            I wrote from the start that there will be some meatballs craving the deep balls (guess they like being balls deep) even if it leads to more sacks, ints and “excitement”,

            As decent as Barkley has looked, his “deep throws” don’t look all that accurate (a couple were underthrows that got bailed out by PI calls).

            Barkley also has a 54% comp, if I read that right. Granted, the insane drops have contributed, but still, that’s Orton territory (u know, the guy the Bears replace with Cargo).

            Barkley has also shown some brainfart moments, but I’ll let that slide for now. It’s not like he’s a 12 year vet drafted in the 1st.

            That being said, I look forward to Barkley games, and would love to see him develop.

            Next season, we can have a true QB competition (sans Cutler).

            I’m just very curious what Barkley and Hoyer will demand $-wise.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            it’s not that I want a QB to air it out all over the field. I want a QB that is able to throw it more than 10 yards when needed. Hoyer is a poor man’s version of Alex Smith.

          • That Guy

            The better Barkley does the next 4 weeks, the more money he’ll command. I think he tops out at around 2 years/$20M with like $12M guaranteed (at that point 3/$30 would be preferable). More likely we’ll get him for 2 years and $10M, Josh McCown territory.

            I feel like Barkley doing well and commanding a big contract is a problem we’d be happy to have.

          • willbest

            Barkley is an RFA. He will take his 1 year $4 million dollar deal and like it, or another team will give us their first round draft pick.

          • That Guy

            This is actually one occasion where I would favor a longer deal to a tender.

            If Barkley has a good season and cements himself as the starter, he walks into the the following year’s negotiations basically asking for the same $100M deal we gave Cutler.

            With six games of data, we can decide if we like him enough to pay for 2-3 years. Cause those 2-3 years are a heck of a lot cheaper than Cutler’s deal.

          • willbest

            13 drops in 2 games (to Hoyer’s 7 in 5). Plus Hoyer had the advantage of Jeffery pulling double teams and No drop Miller freeing up everybody else. I mean when Bellamy is your WR#1 it doesn’t matter if you are Aaron Rodgers. And we know this is true. He looked pedestrian with Cobb and Adams.

            You people and your hard on for the Mythical Hoyer who you somehow project will continue playing at his absurd level of efficiency even though it is by far and away his best 5 game performance of his career are Nucking Futs.

          • willbest

            Amazing stats until you realize he averaged 16 ppg, can’t close in the red zone, and can’t throw the ball more than 12 yards.

            Unless your #2 is Tony Romo, your HC is Darth Hoodie, or you are rocking Denver 15, Seattle 13 D’s you are pretty much SOL if your QB 1 goes down. The only possible reason I could even think Hoyer was a good idea is because they want a vanilla guy to run the second team offense in practice. But that is just going to get you losing with dignity on game day. Best to go with a wild card, with upside, and limited film exists on. That way you can at least befuddled the opposing D for a game or 2 while your starter is in the concussion protocol.

            Now if you were convinced you were going to have a top 3 defense, then sure Hoyer makes sense. But there is nothing, nothing about the current state of the roster that has me believing that possible, let alone probable.

      • That Guy

        I think Barkley has proven one thing regardless of how the next 4 games go: he’s really good off the bench when other teams don’t have recent film on him. That means he’s on the roster next year no matter what.

        The question is who else do we bring in? I think either Shaw or Hoyer will come to camp and compete for a roster spot. That leaves, realistically, a maximum of one more QB position open. There are five ways that can go:

        1. We keep Cutler. I don’t think anybody thinks this is going to happen, but if Barkley tears his ACL tomorrow and the draft doesn’t produce anyone good, is there a better option?
        2. We sign Jimmy G. I doubt this scenario as well unless Barkley completely loses the confidence of Pace and Fox in the next four weeks.
        3. We sign two journeymen from the group of Hoyer, Shaw and whoever else is on the market and basically punt for a year. I see no reason to do this. Might as well just keep the extra roster spot and hope Barkley stays healthy.
        4. We draft big. Get a guy like Kizer and go all in. Maybe let him compete with Barkley for the job.
        5. We do what Pace has done so far which is not be aggressive enough looking at QBs in the draft. If that’s our plan, we get a mid-rounder and put him in an open competition with Barkley. Maybe we get lucky with a Wilson or Cousins. Probably we get another Hoyer or Shaw. Not exactly thrilling.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          2. we would have to trade for Jimmy G.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

          1.Only way Cargo stays is If a Packer evil scientist designs a virus that kills every QB on the planet except Cutler.

      • Big Mike

        Fox needs to stay. The real problem this year besides injury. has been that the OC has called a different game when Cutler’s been in. 3rd, is simply inexperience.

        • MB30SD

          um, what the fucking WHAT?!?!

          Maybe you should take a trip to one of the games, go meet him, stick your hand out to shake his hand, and when you grab his hand, whip it up side down and quickly check his pulse!

          There it is…. dead. dude is dead. No pulse. Zombie.

          Season at Zombie Bernie’s

          • Big Mike

            I always give head coach’s the benefit of the doubt. Quiet does not mean without passion. Fox is a very good coach. You don’t like his demeanor it seems. I get it. Head Coaches of 3 win teams are always in the barrel and are fair game.

          • MB30SD

            Your last sentence is the only thing I care about Mike my man. Y wins… To 3 wins. Period. Buh bye.

            No head coach in the NFL should keep a job when he has 5 and under wins when there are teams out there like the jags, browns, Titans, no, etc…

            Oh you only won 5 games this year… It should be a fucking automatic shitcanning (unless you’re hc of one of the teams just mentioned)

          • Big Mike

            then we should have kept lovie. 10 wins. fired. And the Bears are one of those crap teams now. The damage done by Emery was tragic. He ruined lovie’s team by not getting younger, he set the franchise back an un measurable amount with Trestman. His 4 lousy drafts made Fox’s job a crapshoot, no matter what Pace did. On top of that injuries at an unprecedented rate. Can’t expect the JV to beat the varsity. Don’t care who your coach is

          • MB30SD

            I love you mike, but I HATE lovie lovers and apologists.

            Fuck that. I’d MUCH rather keep trying new HCs until we find one than constantly be 7-9 or 9-7 and juuuuuust outside the hunt. That’s soulcrushing… as is lovie. fuck that clown.

          • Big Mike

            You said all that matters was Wins. He had 10. I also thought it was time for the Bears to move on. But you can’t say all that matters are wins, and then dismiss a 10 win coach.

          • MB30SD

            sure I can, cause that’s his ceiling… the tipy tipy top of his ceiling.

            All that matters is playoffs and trophies maings.

          • Big Mike

            He had a 13 win season and two 11 win seasons as well. Did you miss out on the early part of his time with the Bears. The guy built the Bears into a winner. Ran out of steam, because he couldn’t get the right OC.

            But back to the only thing I’m challenging you on, is you can’t say all that matters is wins, then say ceiling, then say playoffs, and then add trophies. Because that’s not the same thing. If you’re talking Lombardi as the only measure, Ok fine. Still, after everything Fox has done in the league he shouldn’t get axed this year. By your measure, Chico is should also get cut. No lombardi’s not living up to expectations etc.

          • MB30SD

            sure.

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    Ain’t no jockey wanna play no jet packz?

    • MB30SD

      i deet I deeet, just got on a little late. Sent you an invite but I think you were already off.

      Shadz was downloading it last night… 15 hours. : /

      I crushes the troops. seems like those dudes don’t usually know how to fight… but man, the mechs are hard to use. I killed a couple in mine last night, but they usually crush me then do some mortal kombat death show on my ass. smh.

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        get the EMP nade, it blinds the mechs. Throw it at their feet and then jump on the back and pull the batteries out.

        But yeah, it usually takes another mech to down them until you level up and get some wicked alternate weapons. I haven’t figured out the DMG table yet.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

    If anything changed last night, I’m so happy Bears didn’t dip into the
    Wilkerson/Richardson waters. Those are guys are flat out quitters. – Jeff

    Couldn’t agree more. Once I heard that both were habitually late/absent from meetings, no thanks.

    As Samurai once said – can’t win with them. Can’t do it.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

    Jeff sticking with that audition shtick, eh?

    Let’s see if he makes it the longest extended metaphor of all time.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

    One thing I like about this team is that they’re spunky in spite of the record.

    Some didn’t like Hicks pumping up the crowd last week after the (Pussy) penalty, but I liked it. I like McPhee talking shit too even if they’re losing. It shows some pride.

    I’ve been on a few losing teams and it’s easy to check out.

    It’s like a prolonged divorce set to groundshog’s day. Just brutal.

    So kudos to the Hicks and McPhees who are still hustling when they could easily be buying hawaii shirts and booking trips to Cancun.

    • MB30SD

      “few” (translation) “all”

    • SC Dave

      Hicks has been a firebrand lately. Me likey.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    DaBearsBlog ‏@dabearsblog 12m12 minutes ago
    Many of you will save this Tweet. But here’s name to watch out for when it comes to the Bears first round pick. Mike Williams. WR. Clemson.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • EnderWiggin

      I’ll be upset if Jeffery isn’t a Bear next year.

      • MB30SD

        I’ll be upset if Fox is.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Budda bing!

    • Big Mike

      nope..Jabril Peppers

      • AlbertInTucson

        That’s my pick to click, too.

        • willbest

          Even at say #4?

          • AlbertInTucson

            I think he’s a playmaker.

    • Sactowns#1

      WHY would we get another WR?!

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Pace would be following Matt Millen’s guide to ruining a franchise.

      • MB30SD

        we wouldn’t. this is crazitalk

      • willbest

        If at first you don’t succeed?

  • Huge Bears Penis
    • bigrobstunner

      🙁

    • BillW

      Just saw this too (on CNN). No details on cause of death.

      • Weed Superman (GP)

        He walked onto the campus of University of Colorado and shot himself in the head.

        • MB30SD

          seriously? holy fucking shit.

          • Weed Superman (GP)

            yep.

          • MB30SD

            wow… man. poor guy. I remember talking smack with him on the field man. damn, that’s nuts.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            2 ways to look at it. The hell is over and he checked out of this shit hole or he’s dancing with the turtles for all eternity.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            M1 Ultra slave termination. Yup…uh..huh…

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd HOFerPick#6(Butch)

          Yikes.

        • Doc Nitty

          Damn. The world is a real cunt sometimes, ain’t it?

    • BearDown100393

      Sad.

    • MB30SD

      WTF?!?!?!?!

  • BearDown100393

    Matt Barkley: If I can’t audition, I can’t audition man. If I’m hurt, I’m hurt. I mean … simple as that. It ain’t about that… I mean it’s… It’s not about that… At all. You know what I’m saying I mean… But it’s…it’s easy … to, to talk about… It’s easy to sum it up when you’re just talking about audition. We’re sitting in here, and I’m supposed to be the franchise player, and we in here talking about audition. I mean, listen, we’re talking about audition, not a game, not a game, not a game, we talking about audition. Not a game. Not, not … Not the game that I go out there and die for and play every game like it’s my last. Not the game, but we’re talking about audition, man. I mean, how silly is that? … And we talking about audition. I know I supposed to be there. I know I’m supposed to lead by example… I know that… And I’m not.. I’m not shoving it aside, you know, like it don’t mean anything. I know it’s important, I do. I honestly do… But we’re talking about audition man. What are we talking about? Audition? We’re talking about audition, man. We’re talking about audition. We’re talking about audition. We ain’t talking about the game. We’re talking about audition, man. When you come to Soldier Field, and you see me play, you see me play don’t you? You’ve seen me give everything I’ve got, right? But we’re talking about audition right now.

    • MB30SD

      what the fuck did he just say?!?!?

      • Scharfinator

        Talkin bout practice

        • MB30SD

          Practice!?!?! know what I’m sayin?

          YOU know what I’m sayin.

          No, I don’t. You didn’t say a single intelligible fucking thing in that entire paragraph. SC education for you. SMH

          • BearDown100393

            Man look, I hear you… it’s funny to me too, I mean it’s strange… it’s strange to me too, but we’re talking about audition man, we’re not even talking about the game… the actual game, when it matters… We’re talking about audition.

          • MB30SD

            huh?

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        I think he’should referring to catching shit for going to an audition with his baseball cap on backwards.

        • MB30SD

          fucking kids these days. smh

      • RenoBear

        It’s a play on that Allen Iverson statement when he was missing practices years back. I’m pretty sure

        • MB30SD

          Hahaha, I know Reno. And I was playing on his playing of the playing.

          Playoffs?!?!

  • Weed Superman (GP)

    Salaam said that when he told the Bears he had a problem with weed addiction, they responded by cutting him instead of getting him addiction treatment.

    Not sure if that was true – cut players say lots of shit to defend their under-performing careers, but it doesn’t play well for the Bears organization in a season of bad PR related to drugs.

    • CanadaBear

      I thought he went to rehab and the Bears cut him when he returned. Makes you wonder about the coaches in those years if he was high all the time. You’d think someone would have figured it out. Anwho, May he R.I.P.

  • willbest

    So the Obit has been written on my FF season. A pathetic 4-9 showing. My guys just couldn’t get their D going this year. I faced high score of the week a staggering 6 times, and despite being 5th in points, was #1 in points against by a mind boggling 214 points.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      haha!

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Jess, I also had an unlucky seeson. Very unlike me.

    • That Guy

      I been there man. It sucks.

    • Sactowns#1

      I thought I would be able to squeak in but then found the door closing just a bit too early. oh well. here’s to next year and my zero RB strategy.

      • That Guy

        Also, feel free to trade your best players to anyone in the playoffs other than Butch. It hasn’t done me any good thus far, but it ticks him off, so why not.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Jamie & Rita Wilson not recognizing Arnold in Turbo Man costume at end of Jingle All the Way may be most ludicrous moment in cinema history.”

    But, there so many Oliver Stone moments to choose from.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Clark Kent’s disguise for Superman was/is a pair of eyeglasses.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        It’s called “hiding in plain sight” don’t ya know Al my man?

        See what eye did there? Hee hee

        • AlbertInTucson

          Me so stupid.

      • willbest

        He also combed his hair differently, and maintained a different posture.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Tsk. I complete FORGOT about that!

    • BearDown100393

      John Travolta cutting off his face and substituting it for Nick Cage’s might have that one beat.

  • CanadaBear
    • SC Dave

      It’s easy to forget about that stuff. One of the great things about North Dallas Forty…

    • Big Mike

      While the collisions on the OL/DL are constant, most are at very close range. You end up with a general soreness, bruises and cuts on your hands, sprained knees, ankles or thumbs. We’d all get some treatment the next day, but a 20 year old body snaps back into shape amazingly quick. Also..not facing 6′ 5″ 280lb DTs who are faster and stronger than you are…

      The Safeties and WRs take some brutal hits. But LBs and RBs are the guys that amaze me.

      I bet the statistics would support this. Career longevity for OL is probably pretty high if sorted by position group

  • Huge Bears Penis
    • BerwynBomber

      Well, Irish will be happy.

      But yeah, a bit surprising.

    • beninnorcal

      This seems pretty far-fetched to me. Why would he do that? They’re building a nice young D here. He’s my favorite coach on the team so I’d be bummed.

    • MB30SD

      meh, whatever. I’m at the point that what happens will happen. Sheesh.

      That said, how in thee hell do you build any semblance of consistency man.

      Also, my god, have a tiny bit of news with your fucking constant avalanche of web ads. nice one trib. smh.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Ask yourself this: who benefits from this Fangio rumor leaking with four games to go?”

    Fangio (if anyone). Or potentially a D positional coach for the Bears if he sense a promotional opportunity.

    But I don’t see how the rumor benefits Fox.

  • Make RedZone Conv% Great Again

    Holy fuck, that first episode of WestWorld is infuckingsane. One of the best episodes of anything I’ve ever seen.

    • MB30SD

      Yetzpakz

      • Make RedZone Conv% Great Again

        I’ve retired the PS3.

        • MB30SD

          I know… You need ze PSquate

  • Irish Sweetness

    ‘Sup bitches. So we created a two win gap between us and the Niners, eh? Well if it gets us to the playoffs…

    Moved house and job to the big Mango and still no internet. Haven’t seen the game yet, but from the highlights it looks like Barkley has some touch in his toolbag of passes … and 24 is a verifiable fantasy stud. 6 sacks. Wow. But here’s hoping the only real weapon on the team stays healthy. Good draft, eh? One more and with God’s good favor with regards injuries .. .this is on.

    If Barkley is good, then we can skip the potty training with a draftee and go with Fales or Shaw as backup, and hopefully stash the other one on the PS. If it was my team I’d keep all three on the 53.

    But Myles is gone. We’ll have stared Leonard Williams, Aaron Donald and Myles Garret right in the eyeball and bounced on all three. If we had Kevin Costner then it’s 1985 all over again.

  • Kileyrdaigre

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  • Irish Sweetness

    BTW – hats off to John Fox. I like Foxy, he’s a good skin. We still have a playable defense after a league-leading slew of injuries. If there’s one guy that can lead us to The Game with Howard behind a newly-beefed up line next season, A.N. Other at QB, and a bitchin’ defense … I believe Foxy can.

  • Henriettackendricks

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  • ButtonShoes

    “Nobody was more critical of Barkley’a prospects pre-Tennessee than I
    was. “He can’t play” I wrote time and again. Guess what? I was wrong. He
    can play. And there’s a chance he can really play.”

    Two games against the Titans and the 49ers, neither of which are good teams, and you say this? Jeff, you are delusional. Delusional.

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