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Ten Thoughts on Chicago’s 2016 Draft & Aftermath

| May 1st, 2016

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(1) The Leonard Floyd pick will be the most heavily scrutinized moving forward but he will actually have little pressure on him in 2016. With Houston, Young and McPhee already situated at OLB, Floyd will be able to assimilate into Vic Fangio’s defense by doing what he does best: getting after the quarterback.

(2) Cody Whitehair is ready to play right now and the Bears should start him at left guard immediately. What does this mean? It means the team should follow the old offensive line maxim and play their best five. Leno. Whitehair. Slauson at center. Long. Massie.

(3) No, I’m not confident Hroniss Grasu is the future at center for the Bears. And that’s fine. You’re allowed to swing and miss in the name of athleticism. Giving him another season to develop, with Slauson at center, is probably the best thing for him.

(4) I like Pat O’Donnell. I really do. But North Dakota State’s Ben LeCompte – who accepted the Bears invite to camp – is a special player and a special kid. Don’t be surprised to see an actual competition emerge this summer. (The Bears didn’t go out and invite the best punter in the land to camp for no reason.) Read this piece on one of the best punting performances I’ve ever seen.

(5) I won’t be surprised to see Jonathan Bullard have a more productive Bears career thanFloyd and that’s not knocking Floyd. Bullard is a grinder. Staying away from all the draftspeak, Bullard just made life horrible for offensive linemen and he went up against some terrific ones in the SEC.

(6) You would sign right now for one of three defensive backs – Bush, Hall, Houston-Carson – to be a productive member of the defense.

(7) I wonder what odds Vegas will give me on Harvard tight end Ben Braunecker making the 2016 roster. Tight ends don’t exist in the college game anymore (because the college game is silly) but Braunecker fits the John Fox bill. Tough. Smart. Loves to run block.

(8) Another UFA you should read about is Villanova linebacker Don Cherry. (The story linked here does a nice job.) You’ll be rooting for this kid come Bourbonnais.

(9) Nick Kwiatkoski, with his name built for Chicago, highlighted:

(10) No QB, no problem. While I wish the Bears would have taken Branden Doughty before the draft’s end, I can’t fault them for not pulling the trigger. Signing Brian Hoyer to a one-year, $2M deal means that the two games Jay misses this season won’t be automatic losses. Hoyer isn’t any good but his teammates like him and he won’t implode.

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  • The Yes Guy

    YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YESSSSSSSSSSSS!

  • Joecashflow

    Oh yeah alright. Good smart draft. Love Jordan Howard.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Tampa traded UP to draft a kicker in the second. That is just unbelievable.

    Loved to see Goodell come out to boos!

    Hats off to the Jags front office. They add Malik Jackson, Prince Amukamara, last year’s No. 3 overall pick Dante Fowler, Jalen Ramsey and Myles Jack. Then they draft pass rusher Yannick Ngakoue and Sheldon Day in the middle rounds.

    The Bears? We did fine until the second round. We could have gone :

    2. Jihad
    3. Bullard

    or

    2. Henry
    3. Bullard

    … but we drafted a guard we didn’t need .. who’s played OT the last two years.

    But we have 8 safeties and 6 cornerbacks … and people can call Bullard a DE all they want, it doesn’t make him one. We still have no genuine long-bodied 3-4 DE.

    Ballsy little WR we got in the 7th, hope he makes it. Like his pick, Floyd’s and Howard’s, But Ashawn, Ward, Henry, Correa or Alexander, were all more crucial to the jigsaw than drafting another guard that played tackle. Especially seeing as he’s too small to play tackle, but there we have it. The draft is in the bag. Just don’t see the value in trading down to pick lottery tickets in that fashion.

    How many of us feel Whitehair is a better addition than Ward / Henry / Ashawn / Alexander / Correa ?

    • dmckendree@post.com

      Draft disaster! Plain and simple

      • MB30SD

        How’s the score going?

    • Girth not Length

      I’m not sure what you mean by “long-bodied 3-4 DE.” In a 3-4, DEs are stouter than the prototype “long-bodied” 4-3 DE. You’ve got it exactly backwards. Got a guy who’s long? That’s a 4-3 DE.

      You want less length and more girth with a 3-4 DE.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If you’re saying that a shorter DE is better than a longer DE then I don’t know what to say to you. When a QB is releasing a pass, if the angle is greater, because, y’know, a 6’6 dude has his hand in the air, the ball is up for grabs.

        • Big Mike

          That’s the OLBs job in this scheme.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Actually the prototype is Girth AND Length. That’s why it’s so hard to find great ones. 6’5 305-310
        with 34 inch arms would be every GM’s dream pick. Cullen Jenkins-esque

        • Irish Sweetness

          That this needs to be explained to adults ….

        • MB30SD

          Yep, you always want girth and length.

          Yes, I’ve relegated myself to penis jokes this weekend

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Watched Dead Pool last night. One big penis joke.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly. Loved that movie. RR is actually a fucking badass. Liked that kid ever since van wilder

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          so Bullard just needs to add 15-20 lbs and get stretched a couple inches and he will be perfect.

          • MB30SD

            #offseasonprogram, #simpleright, #Ibelieve, #ihatepeoplewhodothisshit

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            It’s the ideal. Bullard should be an immediate upgrade over Ego. I wanted Ego to work out but he doesn’t play with the violence that Bullard does and never had the type of production at LSU that Bullard displayed at Florida. I’m actually excited for the kid. We just left a lot of talent on the board is all.

          • Raymondo

            I thought Ego has a solid season.

          • Big Mike

            Bullard’s quickness and strength combination more than offset his arm length and height issue.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Irish, you got your Floyd and your running back. You need that OG so Howard is not stopped for no gain on every play. Perspective.

    • Raymondo

      Yeah, I’m still a bit concerned as to why drop in the 2nd, missing out on some top notch talent in order to stockpile on guys who all were projected as probable special teamers.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Ha, watched his meal ticket leave and acted like a bitch as a result. He should be beaten as in olden days.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Dude is gonna get kneecapped, either physically or legally. What a punk.

        • MB30SD

          Hope so

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            What a fucking tool. Go earn some money and stop trying to ride a young brotha to easy street. That pussy bitch needs to go get some new clients. What a fucking dork.

          • CanadaBear

            As if that cocksucker isn’t enough of a fucking bitch his step father (Miller) is quoted in the article, Miller sued Tunsil before the draft for defamation of character and “intentional infliction of emotional distress.” Nice step father.

          • https://goo.gl/2shkBh

            I won’t be surprised to see Jonathan Bullard have a more productive Bears career thanFloyd and that’s not knocking Floyd. Bullard is a grinder. Staying away from all the draftspeak, Bullard just made life horrible for offensive linemen and he went up against some terrific ones in the SEC.

    • willbest

      breach of fiduciary duty, still needs to prove he would have been drafted earlier in order to prove damages.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Maybe Pace is just waiting for Wilkerson to sign his tender before giving up next year’s pick?

    Do we care if we have no first rounder next year if Mo is on our team?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Bears think they picked up the equivalent of Sheldon Richardson in the 3rd round so Mo won’t be a Bear sadly.

  • MB30SD

    I’m starting to come around to this draft. It wasn’t as fuck yeah as I felt I really needed to wash away past sheite, but it was solid and smart and who knows, floyd could turn into a jpp/aldon smith type?

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      and that 7th round receiver is going to be the GOAT! If you question it, you are a “Braverman” than I, and you will be subject to wrath of Irish

      • MB30SD

        You kidding me, he LOVED the floyd pick…and erra practice squad hero we’ve ever had on the team.

    • DaMurph

      Gotta bulk his ass up!!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        that’s right Murph. Have him sleep over at Clay Matthew’s house. Not Aaron’s though, he’d be filmed with a night vision camera. Weird.

    • Big Mike

      My take is that Pace likes a certain kind of athlete. Bullard and Floyd, both EXPLODE off the ball. Like the linemen is thinking WTF are you doing in my kitchen already. He’s confident that the strength and nutrition program, combined with the character/work ethic of these two players will get them to the right playing weight/strength for the NFL. So what if Floyd is in on Sub-packages only.. That’s 40-50% of the game. If teams try to run at him, low and behold we’ve got actual professional linebackers on the inside and maybe we’ve found some safeties that can wreck the box. The OG is a odd pick, but the guy we took is a STUD. My bet Slauson goes to Center. Grasu either bulks up and takes over from Slauson or beats him out straight up. Either way Center isn’t a problem and the rookie LG will just continue to get better. Bullard is a steal. Everything I read said the 2 DBs are very nice pick ups. The 4th round LB will kill it on special teams. The 5th round back could be a diamond, the 6th round DB will make the team in the event of a tie as an excellent special teams guy (long arms, works hard, plays slot and corner), the 7th round slot receiver.. whatever welcome to the competition. Allegedly has amazing hands.

      Good luck to these young men. Who are the studs and who are the duds? Can’t tell. But Pace went high character, good work ethic and very athletic.

      • MB30SD

        Yup. I will never question taking a stud for the oline… or dline. Can never have enough of those guys. We’ll see about the rest

      • willbest

        Floyd is 24 though, I don’t necessarily like that. Odds of him being a Bear for more than 5 years is pretty small.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          you can win a superbowl in 5 yrs. That mode of thinking of needing a 10yr player seems to be ending.

          • willbest

            I know, from a game play perspective. But from a fan perspective you want your home grown talent to grow up and get rewarded by your team

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Long was 25 wasn’t he? He is going to be rewarded like a Saudi Prince on their 13th birthday.

          • willbest

            But he is a guard. They play to 32-33 and then some move in to center for another 2-3 years. Edge guys have a higher risk at breaking down.

          • Big Mike

            No reason he can’t get his 2nd contract with the Bears from ages 29-33/34

          • Irish Sweetness

            If we don’t have a superbowl in 2 years, this whole thing plus the Cutler deal was a failure.

          • willbest

            Yes but that is true of most teams strategies.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Irish, you gotta draft the man to beat the man. Bears missed for too long on too many chances in the draft. The Cutler deal happened years ago. You mean the whole “building a consistently good roster” has been a failure right?

        • Big Mike

          Long was the same age. If he’s that good, you pay the man for the next 5-6 years. 2 contract guy. There is a bright side. It can work out better by avoiding the declining player 3rd contract.

        • Big Mike

          When he is 29 coming off of his rookie contract and that good, you give him a 5 year deal on his way to canton. Bright side you avoid the over the hill 3rd contract. Young guy comes in at 21, 10 years later he wants his 3rd deal.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Check out the tape on Braverman, he’s like a mini-me Tom Waddle. Fast too. Probably KR/PR, but he looks better than Mariani. Just wonder what will happen when it’s Cutty throwing lasers at him, and not all those rainbows he was snagging from his noodle-armed QB

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I like giving Mariani shit because he sucks at returning now but the guy came up too clutch on 3rd and whatever so he’s earned a right to stay until he proves otherwise. Damn whites.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree. If the Bears need a fair catch MM is their man. I know he’s a 5th WR (at best) on a good team but he catches the ball and gets the yards that are there. Definitely has some big, brass balls.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            big time. His WR confidence is also at an all time high. He’s loves Cutty and loves the extra money it’s made him. They like playing together and that confidence just increases the production. In the interviews he was so fucking thankful for the chance. That guy will run through walls now.

        • Big Mike

          Always a surprise for the receives catching a ball from an NFL QB, let alone a guy like Cutler

  • MB30SD

    Anyone have a list of the udfas we picked up. I’m too lazy to look

    • Huge Bear’s Penis
      • MB30SD

        Never heard of it.

        And I fucking admit I’m lazy right in my post. So mean sometimes.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          TBH, i was too lazy to read you full post.

          • MB30SD

            Jerk

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Better be a tight end in there. Can’t roll with Miller, Housler and Lee.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        here is the list so far for you lazy bastards

        Adrian Bellard, OT, Texas State
        Dan Buchholz, OL, Duquesne
        Ben Braunecker, TE, Harvard
        Taveze Calhoun, DB, Mississippi State
        Don Cherry, LB, Villanova
        Deonte Gibson, DL, Northwestern
        John Kling, OL, Buffalo
        Darrin Peterson, WR, Liberty
        Kevin Peterson, CB, Oklahoma State
        Roy Robertson-Harris, DE, UTEP
        Joe Sommers, TE, Wisconsin-Oshkosh

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Hmmm, Joe Sommers from Osh Kosh. I don’t think Pace got my memo. fucking Caucasians.

          • DaMurph

            White guys make the best TE’s Eifert, Gronk, Whitten, Daniels, (Gonzalez Hernandez) Ditka.

          • EnderWiggin

            Half of Graham?

          • DaMurph

            Yep, he gets 50%!

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            He can’t block, guess that’s the other part!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            white hispanics?

          • DaMurph

            Tweeners, hence the parenthesis. Ha!

        • MB30SD

          You sir, are a saint. You probably feed the sick and hungry in your spare time as well.

          Yonny, TWO, count em.. TWO TEs.

          That kid from east bum fuck wiscaaaansin-oshkoshbegosh is gonna be the draft sleeper…. fear not!

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            but both those TEs are white so they don’t count.

          • MB30SD

            Damn it

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Maybe they brought in the Harvard kid as a finance intern and he just ended up on the wrong list.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            damn that guy is majoring in Molecular and Cellular Biology, and plans to finish his degree next spring.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Boom. Love it.

          • MB30SD

            My one regret, wish I would have applied myself a little (ok, a lot) more in school and played for Harvard or Princeton, etc…

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Ahhh, go catch a gnarly wave, work on a plate of asada and bang a 23yr old and you’ll be right as rain. No regrets player.

          • MB30SD

            Can’t really complain yo. Good point.

            Btw, going to be coming to chi in sept. Get the gang back together? Murph?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            let’s do it.

          • DaMurph

            You know I’m in!!

          • willbest

            Best hitter in my high school got a full ride to MIT on a baseball scholarship, he was smart, but not crazy smart. Best pitcher (a lefty) I don’t know what happened too. I do know he was getting letters from every major league baseball team because they were sent to the school and would get dropped off to him in econ which I was taking with him.

          • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

            mark bavaro was white. so was cap boso. and ditka.

          • MB30SD

            And the robocop

          • AlbertInTucson

            Jackie Smith. Jason Whiten.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            you guys are taking this way too seriously, it was more of a comment based on Waffles “memos” of not wanting white players.

          • Johnnywad

            Gronk

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jim Robocop Thornton … Gronkowski .. And I’m calling Tony Gonzalez white.

          • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

            fuck 2 TEs. we got 2 PETERSONs. That’s the good stuff right there.

          • MB30SD

            Evan peterson! How the hell are you!?

            Peterson isn’t a very jewish name son.

          • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

            i’m doing good. the boy just started sleeping through the night, so life is becoming more normal again. which is nice.

            petersonstein was the real name, but changed for sports purposes.

          • MB30SD

            Excellent

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          Deonte Gibson signed with the Lions, not the Bears.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            my bad, i just pulled the list off of a SBnation site I linked below.

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    • MB30SD

      Hot damn… our new TE looks good in slave trade shorts!

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        haha, Irish would put him at WR….just like Megatron

        • Irish Sweetness

          Another reason we should have drafted Henry! We don’t have big bodies to throw to …

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, Kevin White, Alshon and Miller are fucking gigantic.

            kevin white is like a fucking cartoon character.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Miller’s pretty big, AJ’s no Brandon, White’s smaller but stocky.

            If we had Josh Hill I’d feel a lot better about absorbing an injury here or there.
            We know AJ is going down in week 3 with a hammy. Then they just have to bracket Kevin and we’re fucked.

          • willbest

            Why do we know that? He didn’t miss a game in 2013 and 2014

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, and having Derrick Henry does nothing to address that since he’s NOT A WR OR TIGHT END. Lol, you’re killing me man.

          • CanadaBear

            Just to re-iterate, White has missed more games in one year than Alshon has in 4.

  • That Guy

    Well I had a nice Passover, and I got to come to back to the real world reading about a rather interesting draft weekend. A bunch of thoughts:

    1. Mock Drafts can throw people off. Walking away from the Superbowl, you saw the importance of an all world pass rusher. The first non-QB taken? The best pass rusher, Joey Bosa. Every mock I read said San Diego would choose between Ramsey and Tunsil.
    2. Dallas is going to make Elliot a star. A young, talented running back behind the best O-line in the league? I can’t fault Jerry for this one at all.
    3. People will say Kelly is a homer by picking Buckner (another Oregon guy). But this was a solid choice – I’m sure the Bears would have been thrilled to get him at 11.
    4. I feel bad for Tunsil, but Miami is a pretty good consolation prize. He’ll still make good money the next few years, and Florida is a nice place to live (with a pretty good offense).
    5. Paxton Lynch is a lucky, lucky man. Drafted in the first round by the Denver Broncos. He will be given every opportunity to succeed.

    Bears thoughts?

    6. Our memory of an undersized pass rusher? Shea McLellin. The staffs? Aldon Smith and Von Miller. I understand why the administration did not agree with the fan base. Let’s see who’s right. It sounds like a Floyd is a hard worker and genuinely humble (but so was Shea).
    7. You do wonder where the Whitehair pick leaves Grasu and Slauson. The good news is we’re stacked on the interior line now. Still, would have liked to see more competition at left tackle. I wonder who will get the 7th and 8th roster spots on O-line?
    8. Bullard sounds like a better version of what we want for Sutton. Basically a three technique for when we’re playing nickel (which can be 60% of the time).
    9. Don’t know a lot about the later picks. Howard sounds like a nice addition to the running back room. And I like that Pace is trying to get younger at safety. Hopefully some of these guys will also improve our coverage units on special teams.
    10. I like the addition of an extra pick in 2017. The draft is a percentages game. The more picks you have, the more flexible you are trading up or down and the more likely you are to hit on a winner. Don’t be surprised to see players like Ego, Fuller or even Jeffery get traded for more picks this year as well.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      welcome back NB.

    • willbest

      Long, Massie, Whitehair, and Leno are locks
      Garsu, and Larsen would have to seriously shit the bed in camp to not make the roster. Garsu since he has only had 1 year and was drafted. Larsen because they ponied up 350k on him, and you don’t do that unless you are convinced he makes the roster.

      I am convinced Slausen isn’t getting cut. The rumor existed for trade bait purposes. Any team acquiring him from the bears would get the guy for 2-years $6 million with no guarantees. That is a god damn steal for a guard of his skill who isn’t ailed by an injury. Bears will keep him if they don’t find a trade partner. But its not a given he is a Bear this year.

      You have to believe Tayo is going to be given every opportunity to make the roster since we don’t have much in the way of competition at tackle.

      Manny Ramierz is probably the odd man out.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        hmmm….can’t see Ramirez being the odd man out. He is proven G/C depth and the line would barely skip a beat with an injury to Slauson or Long. Maybe it would skip a beat or two with Long out.

        • willbest

          Well if they find a trade partner for Slausen you can bet Ramierz stays.

          I guess if you are okay with Long and Whitehair as your emergency tackles you can roll 6 interior guys (Long, Whitehair, Slausen, Larsen, Ramirez, Grasu) and only 3 exterior guys (Leno, Massie, Tayo). Then grab a tackle for your practice squad.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why are we talking about cutting or trading Slauson? Whitehair hasn’t played Guard for two years, and he just walks into the pro game and starts, just like that?
            We passed up top players to sign this guy who will sit on the bench.

            Unless they’re moving Slauson to Center, and giving up on Grasu.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            just the messenger Irish, the word on the street is that Slauson may be on the block.

          • That Guy

            Trading Slauson after the draft would be surprising, but not unheard of. Pace is obviously trying to get younger and exchanging Slauson for Whitehair is the way to do it if Whitehair is as good as advertised.

            I have a hard time believing that Grasu is already being written off after only one year, but he is the wild card in the discussion. If Whitehair and Grasu are both solid starters at LG and C, its definitely smarter to keep them starting than Slauson. But maybe Pace is thinking Long can challenge Leno for the left tackle spot?

            The other, perhaps less palatable possibility is that the team is preparing this year for Long’s contract year. If Long wants top O-line money and the team projects him as a guard… he might be better off as a trade or even just someone we lose in FA. Losing stars is the consequence of drafting well. Pace might feel like letting Long go is the way to invest resources elsewhere. But I hope not.

          • willbest

            Losing Long is nuts. He is a top 3 guard in the NFL, and we have more than enough cap space for him. At the moment we are going to be headed into 2017 with roughly $10 million rolling over from 2016.

          • CanadaBear

            Not to mention he might be the most popular player on the team with the fans. Not that you run a team as a popularity contest but when your best player is also the face of the franchise, tread lightly.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            yeah, but how much cash are the Bears going to have after extending both Alshon AND Long.

            Then trying to make cap space for Mo when he’s gone from the Jets.

          • willbest

            In 2017 the cap will be 164-167 million. The Bears are sitting at 104 million cap. That doesn’t include Jeffery, but does include Long’s $9 mil fifth year option. Cut Royal and Rolle for another $8 million. Cut Houston and save another $6 million.

            Other 2017 FA’s of note. Willie Young and Wilson, neither of which are bank busters.

            Simple fact of the matter is the Bears have enough money to add a monster FA like Mo plus have enough money to add a couple quality FAs like McPhee or Trevathan while paying long and Jeffery the money they have earned.

            That is owing to us not having any home grown talent. Now by 2018 that starts changing. Because the floor on non-rookie contract starting left tackle in the NFL is about to go up to $8-9 million, so if Leno is legit you are talking having to pay him by 2018

          • willbest

            There was a rumor reported that Slausen was on the chop block. Obviously he isn’t going to get cut. $3 million for his is stupidly cheap and the bears aren’t hurting for money unless they have some sort of monster acquisition in the works. So I suspect it was put out there to generate interest in him.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Welp.

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    • burntorangenavyblue

      I dunno, these stories do nothing for me.

      It’s like fluff pieces that ESPN like to air all the time, but doesn’t help me get anything out of it because I want the NOW stuff and their production on the field.

      Not trying to be a heartless jerk, but these are almost always the same story as the thousands of other players that arrive to the professional scene.

      • MB30SD

        Have to agree. Blah blah blah… in that small town anything is dagum big. Ews

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I do like that he’s humble and knows to stay out of trouble. In the right environment with coaching, nutrition science and pro workouts I could see the natural ability get augmented. Some guys with nice track records are really vouching for this kid.
          I’ve come around a bit and if anyone can get him to produce and stay focused it would be Fox and Fangio. Like when Marinelli got the best out of our D line.

          • Big Mike

            The theme for Fox to day is he drafts players of strong work ethic and good character. Little if any baggage. If I’m remembering it right, each player he drafted as high marks on work ethic, intelligience etc.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            agreed but you still take Tunsil. That was too good to pass up. Weed man.

          • MB30SD

            Jup… 100%. I take a little weed over erra weekend molly use for 2 years ennaday

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            You can still take Whitebread in round 2 or move up for a D guy. We are where we are but Tunsil was there for the taking but we got all scurrrrrrd because of Raydog.

          • Bender McLugh

            So if they stood pat and took Tunsil would there have been opportunity to snag an equally talented DE as Floyd? Seems to me they think Whitehair is dang good.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s not a DE. You want an OLB – there was Correa there in 2.

          • Bender McLugh

            OLB my bad.

          • Irish Sweetness

            1. Tunsil
            2. Jihad / A’Shawn / Henry

            No need anywhere for a guard.

            How about this?

            1. Tunsil
            2. Derrick Henry
            3. Bullard

            All problems solved.

            Pace wanted more picks? Why? Didn’t need them. Cleveland picked 14 players in this draft and they’ll still blow chunks.

            Quality not quantity.

          • willbest

            You just can’t let go. We drafted an RB you liked, why would you want Henry when you could have Jihad and Howard. Who knows what you are finding down there in the way of linemen.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahaha

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yeah, if Pace stayed put, and overlooked the past … we could have had Tunsil.
            If the Titans were picking first, he might have been the top pick.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yep and if my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.

          • Big Mike

            I thing Tunsil showed strong character getting through the bullshit. So toss out the smoking weed thing. Here are the other 2 “character knocks”

            Tunsil then was charged with domestic assault against his stepfather in
            June, reportedly for sticking up for his mother. Those charges were
            eventually dismissed. So he sticks up for his mom. Bravo. That’s a plus, not a minus.

            Then.. he gets hit with the “impermissible benefits” bullshit. His family is poorer than dirt. He’s trying to survive. Then he was less than forthcoming with the NCAA.

            I’d take this kid in a heartbeat. A few bucks solves all of his problems. I’d be damn sure he had great financial counseling. Going from no heat or electricity to a multi million paycheck is traumatic. I wish these young guys like this would learn how to live on $250k a year, during their rookie contract. That’s more than plenty. Spend another $250k one time getting family set up and then just go to work

          • CanadaBear

            100%. When the Bears traded up after Conklin was picked, I was sure they were picking Tunsil. People freaked out over the gas mask. BFD. Just one more way to get the THC into your lungs. Hopefully the Dolphins will look out for this guy the first couple of years.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      haha, I would love to see Biggsy do a TV spot with a huge grease stain on his shirt from trying to rush into a beef too fast before the interview started.

      Do you think he gets sweat lines on his shirts under his booby places?

  • George Hotchkiss

    Official “Old Fart” here, seen a lot of drafts, seen a lot of high praise. Until proven otherwise, it is all bullshit. My sense of this years draft, and last years draft is that we are looking at Bears leadership that appears to be competent. We know John Fox is a capable coach, not sure if he is a great one, but I like him. Ryan Pace has a lot of work to do to prove if he can really do the job, and bring the Bears back to a high level of performance as a team that no one wants to see on their schedule. This draft would be my fiftieth draft that I have paid attention to in more than a casual manner, so I know how difficult the GM’s job is in moving a team forward, especially after years of poor management. In assuming that all the high praise is bullshit, one is taking the safest approach. Even a good draft has trouble finding half of the players ever making a significant contribution to the team. Here is how I am approaching this years draft moving forward, I will believe it when I see it. I still have worries from last years draft, Kevin White’s injury is one of repetitive motion. He may have a bone that never quite heals properly, or he may never have the explosive power he used to have. I am hoping that he gets over this injury completely, because then he could be a total freak performer like during his college days. Have a great day…

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      so you’ve postponed the revolution until a later date?

      • MB30SD

        Jesus, just when we finally get fucking rid of bill, here comes bill 2.0. FML

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s Alshon ‘soft’ Jeffrey and his injuries that worry me, not Kevin White, who is a physical specimen

      • CanadaBear

        You do realize White has missed more games in one year than Alshon has missed in 4 years?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Completely different. He broke a bone. AJ did his shoulder. His groin. His hammy. That implies a number of things. White just had an accident.

          The point being, when AJ does go down, and he WILL go down …we are very light at receiver.

          • CanadaBear

            No, the point is you conveniently ignore facts that don’t fit into your scenarios and then just run with it like it’s gospel and we all should get onboard.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza
  • willbest
    • Irish Sweetness

      GTFO. Is it May Fool’s day. Stupid the first?

      • willbest

        You don’t like the privacy implications of big brother always watching you?

        • Irish Sweetness

          1. I don’t believe they have lenses that are video cameras. If they do, it’s evidence of adapted alien technology … hey, is it that time of the year already …?

          2. After Snowden, I know they’re already watching and recording everything. And if I’m honest, I don’t really care.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly on #2… enjoy my cock and some chick’s headless titty pics. Who gives a fuck.

          • willbest

            My first hard drive was the size of a shoebox, weighed 10 pounds and held a whopping 20 MB. And that was in the 80’s. Now they can fit 64 GB on a fingernail. miniaturization man.

            And keep in mind that patents are generally filed a few years before a commercially viable product is produced. Google glass technology is nearly a decade old. So there has been plenty of time to refine the process.

          • MB30SD

            I want this tech!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            DUDE! Me too! 20MB. It broke in no time because the head crashed and cost 200 pounds to replace.

            C:Shipdisk

            RETURN

            I have a fiend who’s gone to do his PhD in Bristol on Nanotechnology. It’s hard to get your head around. It’s like magic.

  • TomC

    “Hoyer isn’t any good but his teammates like him and he won’t implode.” High praise indeed from the Blogfather. And I generally agree, but you need the caveat: “unless it’s a playoff game against KC.” That was one of the most awful QB performances I’ve ever seen. (But I’d still rather have Hoyer than Pickles.)

    • willbest

      Hoyer is an upgrade, and as long as we are playing a .500 or below team he won’t lose us the game.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I hope he never sees the field.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Why would we start Hoyer over Fales? Fales hasn’t done anything wrong yet. Hoyer was cut for being no good, although ironically replaced by Crock Osweiler.

      • MB30SD

        S…..M…..H.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Hoyer has shown he can actually win. If shit is going well and Cutty goes down but our run game and D is tight I want a QB that can actually keep the train rolling … possibly.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          unfortunately if Hoyer does play and has a good game then we have to hear all the idiots claiming we should be starting him over Cutty.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            haha, that is true. I almost want that to happen just to see it all go down. I’m getting a Hoyer jersey just in case

          • MB30SD

            No you don’t

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            are you sure? i would almost bet you have an aneurysm if it did.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            i think it would be epic to hear some meatball espouse the virtues of Brian Hoyer at starting QB. You know someone would be thinking it. Even if he was 48% on the day, two picks and the Bears win by 3 TD’s because of the D and run game.

            It’s called the Russell Wilson protocol. He was called a “winner” after he threw 4 picks in the NFC Championship game and somehow the Seahawks still beat Green Bay.

          • willbest

            I am sure the Score has already had that caller

        • MB30SD

          That and hoyer is a professional nfl football player… regardless of how bad.

          False is a…. practice squad hero. It’s all starting to make sense!! Hahaha irish, loves you maings.

          Just so you know, I picture you looking like one of the guys from boondocks saints. Maybe the uglier of the two

        • Irish Sweetness

          Just checked out his stats. Better than expected.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Hoyer was a huge pickup. Way better than any kid coming in as backup. Gives you an actual chance if the team around him is strong. I love that pickup. I’m getting a Hoyer jersey.

      • MB30SD

        Hahahaha… he’s going to get the number… “00”

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    ugh, the dream is over. Wife has returned, off to a family party. This has been a great weekend of pajama clad, rum soaked football blogging. Time to go back to the real world. Until the revolution!!!

    • CanadaBear

      We’ll always have this time together!

    • DaMurph

      I always hate when that dream ends. What I would give for an on – off switch for the opposite sex.

    • MB30SD

      Welcome to my entire existence brother.

      Have to admit, as nice as the good times are, the bad/annoying times outweighed for me.

    • Big Mike

      My wife travels 3-4 times a year for a week at a time. For the longest time I’d go through the I’ll miss you bullshit. After 30 years, when I know her trips are coming up, I’ve practically packed her bags.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        ouch

        my SO is mad at me that I don’t want to vacation in the Caribbean with her

        • MB30SD

          Wtf not?!

          • willbest

            I hate the feel of sand, so the Caribbean doesn’t seem all that appealing to me.

          • MB30SD

            I am MB’s sense of loss and sadness

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            it’s complicated. but the scenery isn’t all inanimate down there.

        • Big Mike

          She and I are good. You get through 2 kids, 30 years of marriage you’re solid. Just nice to have some time alone.

          • MB30SD

            Fuck yes. Erra man needs that to be a sane human. We aren’t built to put up with drama 24/7 it’s been empirically proven to lower testosterone levels and make men depressed

          • Big Mike

            She wonders what I do. I tell her. Whatever, whenever. Nothing crazy at this stage of the game. Although one time her trip was extended and she ended up being gone for nearly three weeks. My son was 16 at the time and by the time she got home we were practically camping inside the house.

          • MB30SD

            Awesome

          • Big Mike

            things like where is the toilet paper, and the soap things for the dishwasher.. mission critical things.

          • CanadaBear

            The day before my Little Love Dove is due home is my cleanup day. Up until then, it looks like Bluto Blutarsky was couch surfing at our place for the last year.

          • Big Mike

            See, that’s how you do it. I’ve actually had our house cleaners pay an extra visit that day when she came back on a Tuesday following a Monday night Bears game.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m too cheap for that but I hear ya! I love having the place to myself (and the pooch) but I’m always really happy when she comes home. Gotta have a little alone time. Before my knees went to hell I always did a week-long bike ride in the mts with my buddies. Hopefully once my knees are replaced I’ll get back to that.

          • MB30SD

            Jesus canada, you are whipped my maings.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m so whipped I don’t even bother to deny it. We have our moments but overall I’m very happy. Of course, if I was single I’d be happy too, just not getting any!!!!!!

          • MB30SD

            Hahaha. .. I’m happy for you my maings

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Just remember Carl Buckins story

            SHE GOT NUTTIN!

            https://youtu.be/l6xXgDPNhUw?t=642

          • Big Mike

            That’s funny. But she’s pulling down 6 figures.

      • willbest

        I don’t think I have ever told my wife I will miss her, unless I were answer a hypothetical question about her death.

        • Big Mike

          When you were first married, she never traveled?

          • willbest

            Maybe an extended weekend to visit her grandparents or sisters. But that was once or twice a year. I similarly never really had to travel much and never more than a couple days at a time.

          • Big Mike

            Makes sense then. It would have been a lot tougher if both of us didn’t travel.

        • Marierdewitt2

          “my room mate Lori Is getting paid on the internet 98$/hr”…..!cc934gtwo days ago grey MacLaren P1 I bought after earning 18,512 DoIIars..it was my previous month’s payout..just a little over.17k DoIIars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it’s realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over. hourly 87 DoIIars…Learn. More right Here !cc934g:➽:➽:➽➽➽➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsFreeGetPayHourly$98…. .❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦:❖❖:❦❦::::::!cc934g….,….

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)
  • CanadaBear

    Not saying POX is a great GM/Coach combo but at least they have a vision and are doing everything they can to get there. With JA/PE every year seemed like they were always all in for the SB or bust. That sounds great in an interview but is a total BS way to operate. Yes you should always be shooting for the SB but you have to be grounded enough to know when your roster is shit and it’s going to take a 2-3 years to even get close to a run. I think that’s where POX is at.

    • That Guy

      I disagree with this. Emery’s draft strategy made sense in the moment, he just didn’t have a high success rate. Looking back:

      2012 – Shea was the right position, wrong player. Then character (Rodriguez) and medicals (Hardin) killed the mid-rounds.

      2013 – Bostic and Greene were meant to help a struggling linebacker group, but they didn’t work out. Mills, Washington and Wilson were all attempts at finding diamonds in the rough, but again all failed to be long term contributors.

      2014 – Jury still out on Fuller, but looking at the team now does anyone think another cornerback wasn’t appropriate? The rest of the guys are mostly question marks.

      I don’t see any “superbowl or bust” moves. I see a guy with a plan not dissimilar to Pace’s, but an inability to execute.

      I think the difference between Pace and Emery is the coaching staff. Emery brought in Trestman and Mel Tucker. Who knows how many of those defensive picks didn’t work out because Tucker couldn’t develop them? Who knows how many guys failed to achieve their best because Trestman couldn’t create an environment that made them succeed?

      • CanadaBear

        You always liked PE way more than me NB.

        • willbest

          Emery’s drafts were adequate his FAs were decent. If the only thing he did differently was hire Arians he would still be a GM right now.

          • CanadaBear

            I think adequate is giving him some credit. His rosters were weak sauce. ST’s were a disaster due to the lack of talent. Oh well. Glad he’s gone.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t see why. How does Arians win games with shit? Name a coach that’s ever won with bad players.

    • Irish Sweetness

      If the roster is shit you don’t ditch one of your best linemen who for a guy that hasn’t played the position for two years that he’ll be asked to play this season.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    “There is one area where The Donald’s experience could be useful, and that is closing Guantanamo — Donald knows a thing or two about running waterfront properties into the ground.” – Obama

    boom

    • MB30SD

      Hee hee

    • Trac

      What is a Hegelian Dialectic for 1 Trillion dollars please?

      http://www.crossroad.to/articles2/05/dialectic.htm

      • Picnics with the Yakuza
        • willbest

          Trump is selling nationalism. And not the lets go blow up some third world shithole ‘Merica. But the “lets prioritize Americans over non-Americans”. Its a simple high level concept, and it sells well. Which is why he is allowed to say something and then take the 180 degree position later. As long as people can be sold on the notion he genuinely believes his high level position, the particulars aren’t important.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Joe Six Pack is not reading Das Kapital.

            What I meant was, the east loves Trump. Putin actually praises the guy. Do they think he’ll attack the banks? Weaken the west’s resolve? Get Germany to come back to the fold?

          • willbest

            I suspect Putin likes that Trump is going to continue to dismantle the American Empire.

          • Trac

            That’s what Obama offered as well. Who is the Trilateral Commission for 100 Trillion Dollars please Alex?

            http://www.truthcontrol.com/trilateral-commission

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            I’d need Irish to field that one. I deal in reality. Sorry, can’t help.

          • Trac

            aaah… da blog is reality?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Your own reality, you mean. All ‘reality’ is subjective.

          • willbest

            That isn’t wasn’t what Obama was selling. “Hope and Change” is also a high level concept that could mean anything to anybody but the crux of it is “not the way we are doing it now”.

          • Trac

            Exactly. Trump is also selling “Hope and Change” re-branded.

          • willbest

            Yes and no. While Obama could have used “Make America Great Again” instead of “Hope and Change.” He was very much pitching naked globalism, repair America’s standing with the world, one big community type of concept. Trump’s branding is very much “We have to focus on us now. Not our Vassal states”. So its important to take the context into consideration instead of just the plain meaning of the words.

            The other interesting thing between the two slogans is “Make America Great Again” is a command. As in YOU Make America Great Again, which is very Trump if you think about his business practice of just licensing his names to third parties. But perhaps he means We’ll Make America Great Again.

            Anyway that is functionally different from “Hope and Change” where the primary action rests on secular prayer

          • Trac

            Again, please, what is a Hegelian Dialectic for 1 trillion dollars please Alex?

          • willbest

            Is that why every billionaire has a space program?

            I obviously don’t believe any of them are more capable than managing the decline so as to prevent rioting. But if that were their stated goal they wouldn’t be importing unwashed hordes. The US would be in a Japanese style population decline if they hadn’t opened the borders in 1965.

            Their goal is a world oligarchy where they “own” everything and everybody else is too poor and too stuck in survival mode to challenge them.

          • Trac

            The outer atmosphere space program is a joke. Anti-gravity drives within the earth’s atmosphere are very likely fact. Not sure what you’re trying to suggest.

    • Scharfinator

      Which would be accomplishing something Obama couldn’t? What a dumb thing to say.

      • willbest

        Nobody roasts this president which is what the WHCD is supposed to be. He gets treated with kids gloves on the comedy circuit, which has unhumorously been demonstrated through statistical analysis of joke targets. Late night comedy will get so much better when he is no longer president.

    • BearDown100393

      None of the Above – Montgomery Brewster

  • Marierdewitt2

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    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Come on Jeff. This is annoying.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        87 an hour GP. 87.

      • DaMurph

        MB thinks shes hot!

  • Viva

    What is the over/under on Cliff Stien getting this draft class signed by the time I finish typing this sentence?

    • CanadaBear

      Pretty good, Viva, pretty good. Although he’s been kicked upstairs. Pace brought in a young guy but I’m sure Stein will pass along his methods. I’ve always really liked the way the Bears handle this. Fair contracts with a chance to earn all the money.

      • willbest

        I hope to hell Pace didn’t bring his guy in from the Saints. Their contracts are a mess.

        Still can’t believe Brees hasn’t worked a deal out and he is going into the last year of a contract with a $30 mil cap hit.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    So, I’ll repost from last thread cuz I’m lazy.

    All in all, I’m not really stoked nor bummed with POXs draft.
    Honestly, not many guys where we were picking in the 1st and 2nd “wowed’ me.

    I personally would’ve drafted Tunsil or Joseph who already look like studs and aren’t merely PROJECTED to be studs. But I’m more conservative than Angelo, Emery and Pace I guess.

    In the second, once Dodd and Jonson came off the board, the other DEs were more or less the same IMO

    That is to say, they ALL had question marks which can make any of them a bust.

    Whitehair wasn’t a need, but he was BPA. I wanted Conk in the 1st for the same traits that Whitehair has. Whitehair simply doesn’t match up size-wise (arm length specifically), but grit goes a long way for Olinemen.

    Olin wasn’t all that big either if I remember correctly, but no one fucked with the Bears while he was on that field. If Whitehair provides that same type character to the O, how could it not be a great pick?

    (I think y’all know how I feel about Grassu)

    Bullard might be a lil undersized (though Justin Smith was the same size), but I get the logic. It seems like POX wanted to get more explosive, faster overall on D, and Bullard fits the bill. McPhee, Houston, Goldman are solid, but they’re not going to knife thru anything.

    (Here’s a good breakdown on Bullard – via Data. Now tell me the other DEs in that round get u more excited)

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2016/4/28/11524684/chicago-bears-draftwatch-double-draft-spectacular-jonathan-bullard-leonte-carroo-travis-feeney

    The Seahawks have a bunch of those “undersized” pass rushers for sub-packages (including Irvin who they just let walk).

    Putting Lloyd and Bullard on obvious rush downs will put the fear of god in Offenses. They know they might have to be a second quicker, which will greatly help out the back 7. (theoretically)

    Fangio is going to run a lot of subpackages. We already play like 60% out of the nickle, which is why POX was targeting the secondary later. I thought we needed a FS with range to pair with Amos the thumper. Obviously, POX was on the same page. Rolle is far from being a lock, or Jones Q.

    We upgraded the Oline and run-game while getting quicker on pass rush.

    Isn’t that the formula for success?

    I would’ve gone about draft differently, but there’s no guarantee my way would’ve been any better. For all I know, Joseph is too small and will always be inj cuz of his play style, and Muffasa Tunsil is a lazy stoner with Webb-like character. Stats say, Dodd or Johnson will bust, or any number of the other Dline guys that went b4 Bullard. Maybe Bullard does bust, but at least we got some extra players for trading down. Dunno.

    Find out in 3 years I guess.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He was BPA after we moved down TWICE. Ha.

      I don’t see how we upgraded the O-line though. We just swapped Slauson with a guy who hasn’t played the position for two years.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Jeff, please address the spam. Getting flashbacks from the old site days, ugh

    • That Guy

      I emailed him and he told me he had forwarded on to Disqus. Keep emailing him if it doesn’t go away – he doesn’t always read the comments. jeff@dabearsblog.com

      • Irish Sweetness

        We don’t always read the articles!

  • Huge Bear’s Penis
    • MB30SD

      Boo hoo?

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Kept saying he’s no lock.
      He’s mediocre at best.

      Trial by fire for the rest.

    • willbest

      I wonder if he has already earned his $500k roster bonus, I presume he would have earned his 100k workout bonus. Saves us 2.4 million

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        That article said no guarantees (which I found a little odd given we just signed him last year).

        but $500K might be a going away present for him.

        Must be nice.

        • willbest

          He was given a 3-year 11.25 million deal with $5 million guaranteed, which we paid all last year. It just says workout bonus which typically means off-season workout bonus (might be prorated). And roster bonus. Now a lot of the big name guys have roster bonuses that trigger the 3rd or whatever day of the league year. But it could have also been an active roster bonus which means he only earns it if he is on the game day 45.

          Incidentally, after this year 2.5 million a year of Cutler’s salary is contingent on him being on the game day 45. Which makes me like his deal even more than I do now that the floor on QB’s is $17-18 million.

    • willbest

      I will say that with this move the only person we have on the team with more than 1 year of NFL experience at safety is Chris Prosinski, who you wouldn’t think would make the roster with the moves we just made in the draft.

      • AlbertInTucson

        But Rolle became the Safety version of Peanut Tillman and couldn’t stay on the field long enough tomake a positive impact.

        • willbest

          I understand why Rolle got cut, I was just pointing out the lack of experience among safeties. Amos will have the most starts of anybody in the locker room next year unless they go find a more established vet.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)
    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      that sucks.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Haha, bullshit move.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        Agree. We could’ve got another 4rth for Slauson.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          They knew Slauson was gone after drafting Whitehair. So they were undoubtedly working the phones all weekend, but couldn’t get anything for him. Which really surprises me.

          I really don’t like this move. Needed a draft pick on the OL to have good depth. Now they basically swapped Whitehair/Slauson, leaving them more vulnerable to injuries (or Grasu/Leno not panning out) again.

          • willbest

            They have Larsen and Rameriz to play center over Grasu, but this move makes it clear that Grasu is going to get first shot.

    • AlbertInTucson

      We are NOT amused.

    • BearDown100393

      “Pace can say what he wants about respecting Rolle and Slauson, but if
      the team truly respected them they would have been cut at a time when
      they would have had a much better opportunity to find work elsewhere.
      Now that teams with needs at those positions have filled them through
      the draft, it becomes much harder.” – PFT

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        Slauson will not have a problem finding a job. Indy, NYG, SD and several others probably already on the phone with his agent. Rolle on the other hand is old so a different story.

    • willbest

      da fuck… If they don’t sign Mo at this point, I am going to lose my shit. We were already 10 million under the cap (after signing draft class). Releasing Rolle made it nearly 13 million and Slausen makes it almost 16 million.

      So help me if he signs with GB.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Yeah, that whole drafting for depth on Oline? How smart that was?
    Yeah.

    • willbest

      You mean other than a lie? I guess if he planned to move on from Slausen and get Whitehair all along he played that perfectly in the draft. Such a retarded level of confidence in Leno though.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Where’s the depth at tackle OR guard now? Unless Slauson requested the release, which he very well might have, this seems arrogant without even a camp battle to settle who these new guys are.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    All the insiders are saying the Bears don’t think Slauson is athletic enough to do what they want from their interior OL, and that was the reason or this move. Apparently he doesn’t get out on screens or to the 2nd level well enough anymore.

    • EnderWiggin

      Weird. I always thought ‘pulling’ was his strong suit.

    • willbest

      And Ted Larsen or 33 year old Ramirez can?

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        doesn’t make a ton of sense to me either.

        Whitehair is definitely an upgrade there. Long/Grasu/Whitehair are all very athletic.

        I think the starting OL will be ok. This worries me about the depth more than anything.

        They still don’t have a competent backup OT, unless Fabuluje takes a big step forward (and I’m still not sold Leno is a quality starter).

        And now they only have 1 good backup interior OL, and he’s 33. I guess they think Larsen is, based on the contract they gave him, but IMO he’s just Vlad Ducasse by a different name. An emergency option only.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      His runblocking wasn’t up to par with his passblocking if I remember the grades on him.

      But he was still cheap and serviceable.

      This is very aggressive by POX.

      In some ways, I like that they’re ready to roll with rooks (like Amos and Goldman last season) or even PS or UFDAs. It’s anti-Angelo when he redshirted rooks.

      But it’s an unnecessary gamble IMO.

      Though signing other vet OGs makes sense now.

      And if we do indeed trade for MO, it makes a lot of sense.

      Next year I doubt we’ll pick as high as #11, and the Jets are only going to get more desperate fearing all they’ll get for releasing Mo is a comp 3rd.

      • EnderWiggin

        It makes the Hoyer signing that much smarter – Grasu is going to get bulldozed.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          Ramirez can play C.

          Ramirez basically replaces Montgomery from last year. That’s a wash.
          Larsen replaces Ducasse. Probably a slight upgrade.
          Whitehair replaces Slauson. Probably a wash for this year, but much younger and better for the future.

          So the hope is that the OL improvement comes via the young guys (Leno, Fabuluje, Whitehair) and they have better injury luck (lost their starting C and LT by week 4 last year).

          • EnderWiggin

            I don’t know Jack about Ramirez. Maybe that was the plan all along. They could have tried to get a pick for Slauson but couldn’t.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            I don’t have any sources or anything, but I all but guarantee you they tried to get a pick for Slauson. If they knew they were cutting him today, as soon as Whitehair was drafted they were calling around to see if they could get a 6 or 7 for him.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    I generally like what Pace has done so far, and he’s clearly trying to re-work the OL into a different image, and sometimes solid players get lost in the shuffle when you undergo coaching/scheme changes. This seems like one of those instances.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      overall, it seems most of Pace’s moves that I think are mistakes have come on the OL.

      -Moving Long to RT with no chance to aclimate
      -Cutting Mills and Ola instead of keeping them as backups
      -Moving Long back to RG after he settles in, leaving themselves thin at OT
      -giving $6M a year to Bobbie Massie, who most consider a borderline starter
      -failing to bring in any competition for Charles Leno
      -dumping Slauson

      I’m guessing there will be some growing pains this year, hopefully it works out overall. OL is definitely young and athletic now, assuming Grasu/Whitehair win their position battles. Oldest starter will be Kyle Long at 27.

      Dumping Mills and Ola as depth bit them in the ass last year when they were forced to start Ducasse and Omameh too much. Hopefully this doesn’t have the same impact.

      • willbest

        Mills was never the same after the foot injury. It is unfortunate that such a delightful surprise in his rookie year was taken out that way. Ola always felt like just a body.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          Yeah, nothing special, but would have been nice to have him as depth over Omameh or Ducasse. He went to Buffalo and started some games at RT, didn’t suck completely.

          Ola also helped out as depth in Detroit. At least one of those guys should have stuck in Chicago last year as a backup who could help out in a pinch.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      That’s kinda the way I see it.

      Trestman/kromer were more WCO opting for the 3yd pass. That system best fits Slauson who is a better pass than run blocker.

      POX is clearly trying to be more run-oriented, so they likely didn’t see Slauson as a fit philosophically.

      Most Bears fans I think would prefer Fox’s approach.

      Think it goes back to when Ditka called the WCO a pussy system.

      • willbest

        Running is important. Its not going to win you championships though. Massie even admitted he isn’t particularly good at pass protect. I don’t know how this makes Jay safer. Suppose we could make a play for an established starting LT with all the money we have.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          Good point with Massie. Also a superior run-blocker than pass blocker.

          Leno is actually the only one on the Oline now that is better pass than run blocker, but that’s ok for a LT.

          Ideally, a guy would be both, but even a stud like Long struggles with one more than the other.

        • Irish Sweetness

          This could be good news for Tayo getting more snaps. You can’t win championships if you’re not in the playoffs. You can’t get in the playoffs if you can’t win games. You can’t win games unless you can move the ball and that’s something we’ve had problem with – short yardage. It will take the pressure off Jay anyway, and our fragile receiving situation.

          • willbest

            Our receivers are our strength. And no, it doesn’t help us in obvious passing situation to have to run max protect in order to keep Jay upright.

          • Irish Sweetness

            What receivers? When AJ pulls his vagina in week 2 what happens?

  • willbest

    The release of Slauson makes no sense because there is no good answer to “How did this make the team better?” It certainly doesn’t make the o-line and by extension the offense better.

    Even if you argue he isn’t athletic enough to do XYZ and you want to play the young guns who supposedly have that ability, he is still an outstanding break glass in case of emergency player. And yes, $3 million is a little steep for your backup guard, but not excessively so. Especially when he already knows the playbook, and has experience running the O-line.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      Somebody on Twitter fairly posed that hypothetical that perhaps he requested his release when they told him he wouldn’t be starting (or would be in competition with 3 guys the new regime brought in). That’s certainly possible.

      I kind of understand the move, even though I disagree with it (barring something coming out that I don’t know about).

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        I buy that POX told Slauson he’d have to compete, but I don’t buy that they were just gonna hand Whitehair the job.

        These guys seem very unsentimental when evaluating.

        If a player sucks, they get yanked no matter who’s behind on the depth chart.

        But this does make us a bit thin on OL.

        Again, it’s a very aggressive move. They really believe in Leno (and maybe Massie), as well as the other Oline guys.

        A lot of us Bear fans are a bit more cautious from all the shit sandwiches we had to eat before at Oline (Webb, Carimi, Pace, Columbo…)

        • willbest

          It sure does make us thin. We have 8 o-line guys that aren’t classified as camp bodies, so help us if one of them gets injured in camp.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            and of those 8, 2 have never played an NFL snap (Whitehair and Fabuluje), while 2 more have only played for 1 year and didn’t exactly wow you (Leno and Grasu).

            They absolutely need at least 2 of those guys-ideally 3-to be quality starters this year.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            If Tayo plays after they drafted Floyd and Howard then Irish will be incorrigible and will feel emboldened to get even crazier. He’ll be calling for Ferguson to be moved to TE because “how could you ever tackle a 6’3 325lb TE??!!!???”

          • MB30SD

            Practice Squad Heeeerooooooooossssss!!!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fabuluje played in pre-season, in the NFL, against NFL players, and he kept a clean pocket and his QB remained upright. Hardly the same as a college kid who hasn’t even played Guard in two years.

          • willbest

            You mean he played well against 2nd and 3rd string DEs and OLBs. Many of whom didn’t make 53-man rosters.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yes. But that doesn’t mean he’s bad. If you struggle against those guys – and they may well be on a par with the ‘starters’, they’re certainly hungrier – then you have a problem. But he didn’t struggle. Both Tayp and Fales have yet to disappoint.

          • willbest

            They have passed every test they have been given. But for some reason Fox doesn’t give them the “final exam” so to speak.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It means that Grasu is the Center now. I hope he’s bulked up.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Releasing your free safety without drafting a starting free safety seems pretty ballsy….and by ballsy i mean fucking idiotic. Great, there was enough space to get a quality vet free safety to fill in the gap but no. This is one of those moves that screams, “we want to make it look like we’re trying to win but we’ve already informed the brass that we need another full offseason and draft to get pieces in place”. Don’t want to win too many games now do we? Cut your G/C vet and replace with a rookie. Cut your vet FS and replace with fucking no one.
    It’s tough to sit here and pretend like it’s ok.

    • Captain Obvious

      Rolle was a shit sandwich at FS last year when he wasn’t injured.

      Cutting him didn’t make the FS situation worse.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        then you fucking draft a real FS or at least sign a vet on a 2yr deal with the shit ton of money we have.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          Now you know why I wanted Karl Joseph!

          But, we’ll see.

          Maybe they’re still drunk with power after Amos was a good rookie S.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            he was not good. I don’t know what people were watching.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            For a rookie, I thought he was good. Esp since Rolle was supposed to come in and call the secondary but got hurt leaving Amos playing with PS guys and no pass rush.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            wait until he’s paired with a rookie this year. It will be special. Any tight end will look like Kellen Winslow SR against us…like last year

          • willbest

            You mean like Harold Jones-Quartey? who they found wandering outside the Walter Payton Center one afternoon.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He wasn’t that bad.

          • MB30SD

            Practice Squad Heeeerooooooooo!!!!!

          • willbest

            Cards picked him up as a UDFA and cut him and, we picked him up off of waivers. So no he wasn’t that bad. But he couldn’t even warm the bench for the Cardinals yet he is starting for us.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I didn’t see him do a lot wrong, he’s a rookie. It’s a tough position. He did okay.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            at least they have some LB who can cover now. Trevathan excels at that, so does Floyd, Freeman is solid.

            The last 3 years middle of the field has been open season for QBs. None of the LB or S could cover

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            this is very true but then why not address FS in FA with some money even for a year or two? Why not try to move up into late 3rd round or very early 4th and address it? Is Deon Bush the guy? Amos and Bush?

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Yo Amos Bush

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Any big QB free agents in 2017?

          • willbest

            Drew Brees

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            I would have signed a stopgap vet too. I wonder if they were planning on getting a S higher in the draft, but it just didn’t work out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            LBs will be on the TEs – and one of them will be 6’6. With Freeman on board, we’ll be okay. No way we’re worse on D this year.

          • Ososfan

            Amos? A fifth round rookie who was good enough to be a starter? Gotta give our DB coaches credit, these young DB’s will be pretty good in the coming years I believe.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If the front 7 fires, then it’s just a couple of young guys fielding pop-ups.

          • Ososfan

            THIS! IRISH YOU DA MAN!

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          The only contract they’ve handed out in FA to somebody older than 26 was Jerrell Freeman.

          They’re clearly building for the future as much as today.

        • Captain Obvious

          Again, Rolle was lousy last year. His legs were shot. He couldn’t run. He couldn’t cover for shit.

          Then he got hurt.

          Keeping him on the roster would do NOTHING to improve the FS situation. NOTHING.

          There weren’t a lot of prototype FS to be drafted, and there aren’t any floating around as FA, either. We’ll make do with the new guys. 3 young guys; chances are one of them will work better than a broken-down old man.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Amos doesn’t need to be paired up with a rookie unless the goal is to lose a couple of games and get a better draft pick while acting like your trying to be competitive. There were plenty of cheap vets to pair up with that fucking waste of a strong safety.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I agree. He lost his job as fart as I’m concerned when Q-J showed that he’d be okay. He’s 33, wasn’t a key player. Slauson OTOH ….

    • CanadaBear

      As far as Rolle is concerned, you can’t miss what you never had. The Slauson move seems awful to me but I’m no OL expert. All I know is when he was in at LG there were few issues and when he switched to C things improved at C but got worse at LG. Oh well.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        then for ONE fucking year move Slauson to Center, start the kid at LG then draft OL next year or in free agency. That makes the team better. Then the kid has reps at LG, Massie and Long have a full year on the right side. Leno is another year in and you know what you have and Grasu gets another year to ship shape the fuck up into a real football player.

        • CanadaBear

          Can’t argue you with ya Johnny. I hate the move, too.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            they don’t want to go 9-7 or 10-6, that’s the real issue here.

          • BearDown100393

            tank?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            not tanking but not exactly putting the team in the very best position for this coming year.
            Cutler’s contract is the perfect one for a total team rebuild and then replace with a young hotshot qb after they build the ranks around him. It just sucks because even though that will be a nice long term solution the talent is there to be ultra competitive this year.

          • BearDown100393

            And waste another year on Cutler’s career. Geez….

          • willbest

            Isn’t it also wasted if they go 9-7?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            i could be dead wrong but it sure doesn’t feel that way. We brought on young talent and acquired young talent through free agency but jettisoning your 2nd best lineman and letting the safety chips fall where they may feels weird after all of the other common sense moves.

          • BearDown100393

            I really do not understand the moves, especially Slauson. He would have been great at anchoring and leading that line for another season. IMHO there has to be more to the story than just simply releasing him outright.

          • CanadaBear

            There’s still a bunch of vet FA’s that will hit the street after June 1st and then again in camp. POX did really well with those type of guys last year (Timu, Anderson, Callahan).

          • willbest

            They are either going to get blessed by the Injury Gods and go 11-5 and into the playoffs or they are going to end up 5-11

          • CanadaBear

            Pretty subtle tanking. We’ll see going forward. The players will tell you everything you need to know.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          “Bare with us…ideally”

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR0YTkSiDkk

    • willbest

      Jones-Quartey was a better safety than Rolle last year. I have no problem cutting Rolles. But yes it was idoitic that they didn’t bring in some vet, or draft a more NFL ready safety.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I assumed Quartey-Jones was our starter this year, it’s the Slauson move that is a head-scratcher, He’s only just gone 30. Can play guard/Center. What’s up?

        • willbest

          Nobody knows. Its like we were minding our own business feeding orphans and some ass clown came up and blackjacked us over the head. Now we are all wandering around wondering what day of the week it is with drool running down our cheek.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    ahhhh fuck it…..just suck it up boys. This is part of the complete overhaul. It’s not a one year plan and they are going to execute the fuck out of it no matter what we say or how pissed we get. The plan is to be competitive but not good enough to ruin draft position or momentum for next year. I believe they want a 7-9 or 8-8 record, use another FA period and draft for next year and then hit the gas pedal. very sneaky Pace you frat boy fuck. I like the long term moves but it’s going to fucking be frustrating as shit in the interim.

    • willbest

      They have to be doing something with all that cap.

      • jab

        Carrying it over into next season. That’s not a smart ass comment, I think that’s really what they’re doing.

        • willbest

          Carrying it over is fine, but we can’t spend it unless we bring in a Norman/Jackson. We simply don’t have enough home grown talent to consume the cap over the next 3 years.

          • jab

            I think they’re planning on signing Alshon and Kyle Long to deals next year. Plus adding more free agent talent to really compete. I don’t think they’re planning on just jumping in and being the best team in the division this year, but looking more for next year. Just my opinion though.

      • Irish Sweetness

        mo. Mo. MO!!!

    • Shady

      Glad you’ve come full circle on this.

      • DaMurph

        Its the alcohol

    • Johnnywad

      Welcome back.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Can’t say this new regime isn’t bold. A lot of folks admire how the Seachickens operate, starting rookies over vets, coaching up and trusting late round defenders, being a run first oriented team, and yes, letting go of some decent players to remold the team.

      Thus far, POX have hit more than missed. McPhee, Amos, Goldman were the big investments (as well as White which is TBD). They trusted Miller and he balled, and Langford flashed, and even Porter became more than serviceable.

      When they saw shit, they dumped it. (Good bye Brock Vereen and Shea!)
      When there was questionable effort or locker room chemistry, gone (Bye Bmarsh and Bennett)
      When the math didn’t add up, they sided with youth (Forte, Slauson, Rolle).

      History says not all these moves will turn up roses (they don’t for any team. The Pats fucking wanted Shea, and how’s Graham working out in SEA?), but Pox and Co have thus far earned a little rope.

      Whether they’re too cocky for their own good remains to be seen, but this new regime def knows what it wants and is unsentimental in executing their plan.

      Pace is young. He’s not playing it safe.

      It’ll be bold if he’s successful, and foolish if he fails.

      • Irish Sweetness

        By the same token, Ditka would have canned Hampton for the McMahon beef, or any number of psychos in the locker room. If Pace is trying to form a locker room of choir boys, then he’ll fail.

    • Cormonster

      I’m tired of them bringing in a bunch of guys who suck or are mediocre at best on one and two year deals as stop-gap measures. I like the idea of going with the young guys and seeing if they can play.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        And this year was not a deep S class in FA or the draft.

        And paying high-end S is always RISKY (Remember all Bears fans wanting Jarious Byrd?)

        • Irish Sweetness

          George Iloka, man. George was the ticket.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Would’ve worked for me.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Loko for LLoka.

            Lloka is just a JAG.

            Slauson is a notch above a JAG. If Ramirez has to play OG, will that really be THAT much of a downgrade?

            I never understand us settling for FA JAGs.

            We have too many JAGs. I wouldn’t have released Slauson because he’s solid, but he’s not All-Pro, and if we want to start the next era, you start the guys u drafted and let go of the previous dudes. That’s just the way it goes.

            Rolle I’m more than OK with. He was NEVER gonna be the answer, and like you said, J-quartz looked better than him anyways, and now these youngins will get reps.

            POX: Go big, or go home!

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            The issue is you only have so many bites at the apple. Wanna increase competition? Bring in top shelf talent at a position of priority and need… Not the one we have a pro bowler at.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Doesn’t need to be deep if you actually draft the right guy, I.e. not a total head case, at the position… This Slauson thing… Just bugs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      This is already year two, and the results need to arrive by next year.

    • Ososfan

      Worldstar!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      And you guys were telling me that it wasn’t pure rebuilding mode. This is setting it all up for another decent draft next year while landing a few more free agents. The x factor is: what are we doing with the QB situation? The oline got years younger and we have loads of backs who will be doing probably 45 to 50 percent of the plays. Soo many unknowns!

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    So, who are we picking in the top 10 next year?

    Totally kidding, I’m unhappy with the last couple of days but not off the bandwagon.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We’ll probably trade down into the fourth and have 6 picks.

  • Irish Sweetness

    In fairness to Pace, the Whitehair pick does indeed now make perfect sense. Maybe Slauson was testing positive for something. Looks like a coke-head.

    • DaMurph

      Come on man!!!

    • jab

      It does make you think. He’s very solid. I can’t imagine they couldn’t get a 6 or 7th rounder in a trade for him. I don’t get it.

    • MB30SD

      Duuuuude

      • Irish Sweetness

        What?? What else could it be? Why do you get rid of a guy like that? Bench him for someone else by all means, but why get rid of him? There’s more than meets the eye here. You all loved Slauson last season. Now he had to go?

        • MB30SD

          You answered your own question I see. Tsk tsk

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        Seriously

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Makes tons of sense if you are cutting your second best lineman or want to add high quality depth to the o-line. The question is why are you cutting your second best lineman because you sure aren’t adding quality depth that way.

  • Scharfinator

    You know what I’m MAD ABOUT?! ALL THESE SHITTY PLAYERS WE DRAFTED THAT I’VE NEVER SEEN WEAR A BEARS UNIFORM, LET ALONE TAKE SNAPS FOR THEM.

    RAH RAH RAH I’M SO MAD!!!

    Jeeeesus, chill out guys. Wait to see if/what pans out – then burn Pace in effigy.

    • willbest

      You know… come to think of it. I am surprisingly much more at peace with Pace’s first 2 draft picks now that I have my outrage over Slauson to focus on.

      I better find out that Slauson JPP’d it. Like he lost his leg in a bear trap or something.

    • CanadaBear

      Gotta bitch about something! When you step back and look at the age of the roster when POX came in and now, it’s crazy. Almost a total rebuild.

      • jab

        Completely agree that the roster has gotten younger and even better. I still don’t like the Floyd pick as I think he’s a situational pass rusher that won’t be able to set the edge against the run because of his size. I feel a lot better about the Whitehair pick now that Slauson is gone even though I don’t understand why. It is a total rebuild.

        • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

          so he gets 14.5 sacks on the season as a 3rd-down rusher, and he 6 INTs because he drops back in coverage on 1st and 2nd down.

          i’ll take it.

          • jab

            I like your optimism and I appreciate it. Unless they move him to inside linebacker, you won’t see him get those picks though. Not in the 3-4 anyways. The videos I watched show his best move as an outside rush with him getting pushed way out of the play because he’s depending on his speed.. He also needs to set an edge as an OLB in the 3-4.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            This. Bullard better be a damn good run stopper on Floyds preferred side , cause he’s gonna need the help.

          • Ososfan

            Bullard looks to be real good against the run. He is EXPLOSIVE

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If he gets 8 sacks next year, I will be eating a hat… So 14.5 and I’ll buy his freaking jersey.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I’m getting a Urine jersey. He’s going to send a handful of guys to CTE university this year.

          • Ososfan

            Haha!

        • Irish Sweetness

          Your unhappy with a pass-rusher not known for playing the run?

          He will totally be able to play the run as OLB, laterally. Up the middle is not his business.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    I tried to like Brock Vereen. But he didn’t have NFL chops.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    I think Massie and Larsen both signalled a new OL scheme, a drive block scheme and Slauson was no longer a fit. He was a good LG when he played.

    Bears ran 31% percent last year with a 6th lineman. That’s fucked up. That’s pulling a skill player off the field a third of the time. It’s like lining up with Khadeem, the little fucker is going between the tackles and everyone knows to collapse down on D.

    And why was that 6th lineman there, for the most part? To help Leno out.

    Combine that with being dead last in the NFL against opposing YPC, and Pace decides he’s gotta address the trenches, both sides. All he ever talks about in the corporate stooge voice of his, is about how the Bears gotta be tougher.

    • willbest

      Pox doesn’t agree with your assessment, because you don’t spend a whole off season FA & Draft and completely not address LT while you have $10 million you don’t know what to do with if that were the case.

      • That Guy

        Alternatively, there wasn’t a left tackle to be had. Massie was one of the biggest tackle free agents and the guy is a lifetime RT.

        LTs are almost as hard to come by as QBs.

        • willbest

          There was. His name was Tunsil.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            THIS.

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  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Either somebody sped the shit out of DHC highlights or that kid has a videogame level burst at five-ten yards. Good 40 time (4.54?) but you have to see his acceleration on the highlights, it looks doctored. Didn’t see anything as a run stopper and level of competition is obviously not going to be great…. But that burst.

    • willbest

      Isn’t 5-10 yards out about when you get upright?

    • MB30SD

      Um, link please!

  • Irish Sweetness

    Aaron Leming ‎@AaronLemingNFL

    Spoke w/ a source about the Matt Slauson cut & cited health concerns for the reason for cut. #Bears

    5:51 AM – 2 May 2016

    • That Guy

      This is likely the real reason, but still surprising given he hasn’t missed a game.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      does Leming finally have a source in the Bears org? he has usually just repeated what the “big boys” report.

      • MB30SD

        Like some fucking lemming.

        Hee hee

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Well, I don’t think this new regime has taken a chance on any inj red flag players.

      Am I wrong? I can’t remember not one. Draft or FA.

      Rolle inj concern. Old. Gone.
      Forte. RB old. Gone.
      Slauson (if true) 30, inj concern. Gone.

      Alshon, in his prime. but a marshmallow. Tagged. Wait and see.

      Rumor is they were trying to Trade Houston who also came off a nasty inj.

      Not saying they automatically dump players they peg as INJ concerts (McPhee and Young came off inj too), but it seems that if ur old and inj, this regime will take that into account.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Maybe Slauson is worried about CTE and they don’t want to promote the fact.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          CTE will never go away with how the NFL is played. The only thing I can see to help minimize CTE onset is to consider concussions an actual injury status with a certain number actually forcing players to miss out half a seaaon to a full season.

          Very curious how MMA and the the wrestling entertainment companies approach this as well.

  • Irish Sweetness

    From WCG:

    Yea, let’s not go calling a rookie who hasn’t taken a snap in the NFL a future Elite Player.

    God I hate when people (DaBearsBlog in this case) do this. Whitehair has a way to go before he sniffs elite. Frankly, while he’s tactically sound, he needs to get NFL strong. He’s not even close. We need to hope he’s servicable in 2016. That’s a better start than just saying he’s going to be elite someday with zero NFL track record.

    “If flinging your own fresh, still-steaming excrement is your level of engagement, there’s always Yahoo Sports.” – Spongie

    by Mike Ditka’s Cigar on May 1, 2016 | 6:44 PM up reply

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      are you really re-posting comments from another blog?

      • willbest

        Yes he is.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          what a fresh idea, I think I will head over to yahoo sports and find some comments to post here.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It references our blog – we are a ‘random’ blog to them.

          • Ososfan

            They’re just mad Jeff has more people on this blog than them. DaBearsblog- the true king of the north.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Jeff also got a right pick or the guy he wanted and they are butthurt about it cuz he knows more than them

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Got reference ftw

  • That Guy

    Pace and Fox will tell you the team won 6 games last year, something wasn’t working. You don’t make small corrections to a 6 win team. You cut the leading offensive playmaker (Forte), you cut your offensive veterans (Slauson), you trade away genuinely talented skill players that aren’t on board with the rebuild (Marty).

    Still.. you have to wonder if there wasn’t another way to go about it. But you look at the teams that really turn the corner from bad to great (recently the Seahawks, Niners, Panthers…) and they’re pretty brutal with their vets in making the change.

    There’s nothing I can say about any of the guys I mentioned that a Panther fan couldn’t say about Steve Smith. And Smith went on to be productive elsewhere, just as Marty, Forte and Slauson will. But the Panthers made the Superbowl. They lost that game, but that didn’t have anything to do with Smith.

    Change is painful.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      nfl.com gave us an A-

      • MB30SD

        So pretty much erraone in the community sucking pace’s balls on this cept us huh. Interesting

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Overall, i am alright with his draft. the only problem i had was trading down twice in the 2nd.

          • willbest

            Well if he was going to draft Whitehair anyway it was the right move.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            true, just one of the times I wish I could get a look at their draft board and grades.

        • Ososfan

          I like the Bullard pick A LOT. and that CB-Hall with the long arms who says he emulates his game after Peanut and that 7th round WR who is supposedly a steal. The others I’m ok with. Can’t wait to see what Donatell does with the DB’s that safety from William and Mary looks like a badass thumper.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They’ll take time though. They’re coming from an amateur sport into a full-time professional environment. Amos and Q-J will be our starting safeties guaranteed. Maybe one of the draftees turns out to be precocious, but ti’s not liekly at the position.

            I see the same problem with Whitehair. It’s like everyone expects a guy who hasn’t played guard in two years to just walk into the pros and not miss a beat? Could be a rude awakening there.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Must be hosting city bias?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Draft grades .. for this year’s draft. How could they possibly do that, knowing nothing about the players and how they will perform in the NFL? I saw NFL.COM giving the Dolphins a B- for Day one!! They should have been given an A++++, considering Tunsil was a consensus #1 at one point.

  • Ososfan

    Why the fuck was Matt Slauson released?!?!?!?!? Ice been knocked out the whole day and JUST read the news…… WTF!?

  • Ososfan

    The reason I thought Pace was comfortable in getting DB’s in the fourth, and later rounds is the quality of our DB’s coach, Ed Donatell and Fangio, they have worked with low round guys and developed them into serviceable/good players in a hurry. I put blind faith in those guys right off the bat.

  • Big Mike

    Slauson – released

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