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Seven Thoughts for Seven Games (Thoughts 1-2)

| October 22nd, 2016

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Thought 1. On the Cutler Injury

It shouldn’t surprise anyone that much of the analysis done on the Bears this season has failed to mention they have been without their starting quarterback for five and a half of the seven contests. Jay has always been undervalued in Chicago, especially by those covering the team and Brian Hoyer’s ability to move the football (without, you know, scoring any points) seemed to convince many reporters that his filling in as signal caller was essentially a push at the position. It’s not.

You ever see Monty Python & the Holy Grail? You know the iconic sequence where King Arthur fights The Black Knight? (Look you stupid bastard, you’ve got no arms left! / Yes I have!) Well that Knight, at that moment in the film, could throw a better deep ball than Brian Hoyer.

Hoyer’s failure to connect on anything down the field has cost the Bears three concrete touchdowns and countless other scoring opportunities.

If Jay Cutler plays these seven games, do they beat Indy and Jacksonville? I think so. Do they beat Green Bay on Thursday night? Yes, I think so. Because all the Bears needed in the second half against the Packers was competent quarterback play. They needed to keep the football, score a few points and keep the pressure on. Instead they got Barkley’d. Hard.

Break down these seven games however you like. But the most important moment, without question, was Cutler injuring his thumb against the Philadelphia Eagles.

Thought 2. On the Injuries, In General

I’ve never seen anything like it.

The Bears are now down two quarterbacks, their starting tailback, two of their three starting receivers, two starting guards, a starting center, their best defensive lineman, one and a half outside linebackers, a starting corner and about four other corners.

And they’re still in every game.

The injuries that hurt most are not the quarterbacks or Eddie Goldman or the guards or Pernell McPhee. The Bears know, for the most part, what those players are and there’s little evaluation left to be done. Goldman, one could argue, is a bit of an unknown but the Bears believe he’s going to be an elite nose tackle.

No, the injuries that hurt most are the players the Bears desperately need to evaluate. What is Kevin White? Will Kyle Fuller be a fit in this defensive system? Can Deiondre’ Hall develop the ball awareness required to be a consistent NFL corner? Without these players finding the field in 2016, they’ll enter 2017 as question marks.

The second half of the schedule is not particularly difficult for the Bears but wins and losses are now secondary. They need to continue developing young talent. But that’s difficult to do when the young talent is wearing a jumpsuit on game day.

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  • Huge Bears Penis

    First, we are winning out! 10-6

    • BearDown100393

      Indeed we are.
      Minnesota. Trap Game. Bear Down. Win for Chicago.

      • CanadaBear

        The Beloved can not be in a trap game this year. They are too shitty to win a trap game and too shitty for the other team to lose a trap game.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Oh, Canadaaaaa, you are so gosh darn riiiight!”

    • AlbertInTucson

      I’ll have what he’s having.

  • Irish Sweetness

    What was wrong with Barkley, Jeff? Neither interception was the kind of WTF? interceptions Jay used to throw. His first throw was amazing, and considering he doesn’t take snaps, that wasn’t bad at all. At least he can get it downfield.

    • willbest

      The offense didn’t produce any points with him against a pedestrian defense. Jeffery and Meredith are our 1 and 2 and they were covered by Packers CB 3 & 4

      • Johnnywad

        And Hoyer got 3.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He cost us a lot more than three.

          • Johnnywad

            No doubt.

    • BearDown100393

      Barkley’s only practice snaps EVER with Whitehair were on the sideline while the trainer was collecting Hoyer’s bone fragments off the field.
      And then take away the best offensive line’s best player in Kyle Long.
      Now go win the game, Matt. And look great doing it.

      • Bender McLugh

        Still doesn’t mean Barkley is good

    • MB30SD

      Jeeezuuuus Christ.

      Can someone please show theze two gentlemen matt fucking barkleys career nfl stats?

      Irish i know you have to maintain your title as PSH czar, but Smfh guys

      • BearDown100393

        “career”

        • MB30SD

          Sure, but it’s his whole body of work… and there’s a reason career is in quotmarks

          • BearDown100393

            Which stat stinks the most?
            A. 55.4 COMP%
            B 381 total yards
            C. 0 TDs
            D. 6 INT
            E. 34.2 Rating

          • MB30SD

            F. All of the above

            See my point. Holy shit he’s worse than turrible. Jesus

          • BearDown100393

            Hmmm….. it can uh….. oh….. maybe….. just maybe…. only get better?

          • MB30SD

            Definition of insanity?

          • BearDown100393

            Well if not Barkley, Zach’s up.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Because we have such a veritable PLETHORA of pass catching tight ends we can easily convert one into an emergency QB.

          • BearDown100393

            I believe he was the emergency QB for Barkley last game.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Being a Bears fan.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            come on MB. can’t you see… he is the Greatest of all Time. Future HOFer!

          • MB30SD

            I’m in!

          • Irish Sweetness

            What were the situations he faced? Barkley came in in a bad situation with zero preparation.

            Checks : Yup, the stats are basing on a career total 65 passes. Jesus, give the guy a break.

          • MB30SD

            Yes, because he’s too fucking horrible to get on the field, and when he does it’s in emergency situations and hold on lemme check… yup, when he did go in he had 6 ints, ZERO points and a fucking 34 passer rating.

            Wtf is wrong with your logic machine maings. He’s fucking putrid

          • Bernie Cohen

            0 TD’s

      • Irish Sweetness

        Unlike most, I don’t equate a guy’s stats with where he is now as a QB. John Elway had terrible stats for nine years. I don’t just say a guy is shit – if you do that you have to say why.

        Specifically – to the blog – how did Barkely suck? Specifically what plays? I didn’t see him suck. I saw an unprepared kid have a hard time. He made some great throws. His first throw most guys in the league can’t make. I mean .. what do people expect? It’s like the defacto position here is to hate on someone until they’re good. I don’t get that. And nobody is allowed to develop. Kevin White will be great in three years. The boo birds and ‘bust’ calls were out on Floyd for his first venture into professional sports.

        Just give the young ones/newbies some time. Barkley will be fine, there’s a reason they hired him.

        • CanadaBear

          If Kevin White is great in 3 years he won’t be with the Beloved. If he stays with Chicago he will be a stiff.

          • willbest

            If White puts up a dominating performance in year 3, I would play him in 4, exercise the fifth year option 5, and then tag him or let him walk in 6. It might be back to back freaks but I would never keep him more than year to year after what he has down with his first two years.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think it will be a problem. There were only 2 top 10 in the draft WR’s in the history of the NFL that have missed more time than KW in the first two years. Both of them never made it. Not encouraging.

          • Bernie Cohen

            Give him to New England and Belichick will turn him into a perenial all-pro.

        • MB30SD

          Irish… read his fucking stats dude. There zero grey area. ZERO.

          every single chance he’s gotten he’s been purtird. You do know the definition of insaniry, you’re talking fucking crazy right now dude. He’s fucking a terrible qb, move on.

          • willbest

            I am 98% confident Irish it trolling us at this point. Remember he was the one back in week 3 that wanted to trade a 6th rounder to the Ravens to get Fales back rather than roll with Barkley.

          • MB30SD

            Sigh, like this team hasn’t fucking tormented me enough

  • willbest

    I wonder what the record on change over from week 1 to week 17 is among starters.

  • willbest

    Jeff seems to be in rare form today defending the ownerships and top management, along with jumping out in front to tow the Cutler bandwagon himself.

    Look I get that we have been watching a shit show, but Quinn looks to have turned it around in Atlanta and we have passed on him the same way we passed on Arians. They didn’t even let Pace interview the guy, he had to make decisions based on his notes. Ernie, George, and Ted hired Fox.

  • BearDown100393

    “The Bears are now down two quarterbacks…..”
    How quickly Connor has been forgotten.
    Barkley is 4th on the depth chart.
    FOURTH

    • Barkley is only a Bear because Shaw got hurt. Otherwise Shaw is the developmental guy on the roster or practice squad and Barkley is unemployed.

      • MB30SD

        Yep. I believe his scientific name is: dogus shittus

        • willbest

          Lol

          • AlbertInTucson

            I learnt my latin from Roadrunner cartoons.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Canus Crappolius”?

          • MB30SD

            Alternate name

      • AlbertInTucson

        This would seem to be the PERFECT spot for “A Developmental Guy” so, of course, the Bears don’t have one.

  • BearDown100393

    Point #1 Summary – If Jay Cutler was not hurt, Bears win three games instead of losses. Okay.
    Point #2 Summary – “The injuries that hurt most are not the quarterbacks”

    So winning isn’t important? Being 4-3 instead of 1-6 isn’t important? Kevin White’s development is more important?

    This seems BIGLY confusing here.

  • MB30SD

    As I’ve said before, until we remove that fucking beancounter and put soneone thefe who knows, loves, and breafhs football (end i think proffered p manning… anything to get him off my tv every second) we will continue to be shit and hire shit.

    I think pace can be good, i think fox is done… nay, i know he is.

    You wanna fix the 15 year revolving table of shit… fire ted, hir nationwide and let p manning and pace do their thing fir the next 2 years without worrying about w/l. Oh and get cutty outta here, it doesn’t matter any more, the era is over and we should move on regardless.

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears need a Theo Eopstein equivalent to build on this inevitable 10-6 season. Is Pace that guy?

      • MB30SD

        Not sure, but when you’re forced to take weekend at bernie’s and his staff of retards…. you just don’t know

        • BearDown100393

          lol. What did you expect from consultant hires?

          • MB30SD

            Exactly my whole fucking point my main maings!

            Get nationwide in there and all of a sudden you have someone invested in making the riright choice, not just A
            choice in order to collect a phat check.

            Passion desire and a burning need for a successful dynasty must come from all the way at the top… not to mention he lives breaths and knows football as well as anyone

          • BearDown100393

            Won’t happen until the scarecrow’s ashes are launched into Lake Michigan and Terrible Ted can no longer play the immunity card.

          • MB30SD

            Just throwing put what NEEDS to happen

          • BearDown100393

            A scarecrow funeral needs to be a viking stylized funeral in order to really do what needs to be done.

          • MB30SD

            Im in!

          • BearDown100393

            You realize Nationwide’s first move would be trading picks for Eli?

          • MB30SD

            In a clause. No fucking way

      • AlbertInTucson

        Theo is channeling Bill Polian.

        Is Pace Polian….?

    • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

      amen

  • BerwynBomber

    So we would have won three extra games with Cutler, huh? What about DAL? Would we be 4-2 right now? And what if Cutty had not played a single game this year? Would the argument be that we would be 6-0?

    “Jay has always been undervalued in Chicago”

    He has also been tremendously overvalued.

    • MB30SD

      Agree. Done with that dude.

      NEXT!!!!

    • BearDown100393

      Anyone believe Jay is really dialed in with the offense through that ear bud while sideline viewing?

    • willbest

      Maybe until the NFCC bike incident. I don’t think anybody has overvalued him since then.

      My comment with respects to Cutler, has always been whats your better option? With us headed to a top 5 draft pick, the answer is its in the draft. Before the answer has always been pay a kings ransom or take a massive downgrade at QB1.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “My comment with respects to Cutler, has always been whats your better option?”

        Bingo.

      • BerwynBomber

        Who was talking about your comment? I was addressing Blogfather’s.

        • willbest

          “he has also been tremendously overvalued” is a generalized comment directed at the press, fans, and through your reply even the ownership. This is in contrast to calling Jeff our specifically.

          Though its patently obvious that Emery did not overvalue Cutler and the contract was entirely fair. You can complain about $54 mil in guarantees but there really isn’t much of a difference between 54 and 46 million in terms of how that 3rd year plays out. It would not help move him or make it easier to move on from him.

          Jay is neither savior nor boogieman. He has a talent the market rate for which is 17-18 million.

          • BerwynBomber

            It was a bad contract. When you make Cutler the highest paid player in the league it is laughable.

            In terms of the generalized comment, of course; as was Blogfather’s, which is to what I was responding.

            Agree about the neither savior nor bogeyman. He is an average starter. But we paid him as if he were elite.

          • willbest

            We paid him as if he was the 16th best QB in the league figuring in the expect cap growth under the new TV contracts. Apparently the psychological damage from 22-16-16 vs 18-18-18 was great even though they are the same commitment. I am sure that it wasn’t done to stroke Jays ego bit rather tax purposes.

          • BerwynBomber

            He was the highest paid player in the league in 2014. And his contract is basically the same as Rodgers’, except Jay’s was front-ended.

          • willbest

            Its like you hate time. Rodgers 110 million extension was to a contract he signed in 2008 under the old CBA with the old cap numbers and the old TV deal. He had 2 years of being grossly underpaid followed by a franchise tag to account for. Plus he inked his extension a year before Jay with the cap $10 million less.

            Jay was a free agent (or headed for the franchise tag). That is a dramatically different bargaining position.

          • BerwynBomber

            When Cutler signed his deal it made him the third or fourth highest paid player in the league. And in ’14 he was the highest. End stop.

            And if I “hate time”, then don’t compare any QB deals that came after Cutty’s, since I’m not allowed to compare one that came before, amiright?

            P.S. I was all for PE slapping the franchise tag on Cutty at the time. Would have grossly overpaid him for a year but that would have been it.

          • willbest

            heh. Its your hatred of time that prohibits you from examining those contracts. You are hung up on Rodgers because that is the only contract that even justifies your position on the Cutler contract. And that is thoroughly discredited because Rodgers was going to make $11 million a year in ’13 and ’14 if he were forced to play out the deal he signed in 2008. So he had to take a “below” market rate if he wanted a pay increase before ’15.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hardly. A lot of contracts justify my stance on Cutty’s contract. Andy Dalton’s for starters. Alex Smith’s too.

  • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

    The Bears are now down two quarterbacks, their starting tailback, two of their three starting receivers, two starting guards, a starting center, their best defensive lineman, one and a half outside linebackers, a starting corner and about four other corners.

    It’s not just the trainers. It’s the culture. Players let injuries linger and hold on when the culture is forgiving. It’s like a company with soft bosses; there are lots and lots of sick days.

    You make people fear their jobs; they show up every day and work hard.

    The Bears culture needs to change. It was changed, it was just changed incorrectly.

    • CanadaBear

      The problem with trying to intimidate the work force is they will fuck you every chance they get.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Once you give up the goodies, there’s no going back.

    • willbest

      Can’t really intimidate people with guarantees or if the person on the depth chart behind them is half as good as they are.

      • MB30SD

        Yep

    • MB30SD

      100… fucking… %

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Maybe the culture in locker rooms took a hit when the owners implemented the rookie wage scale. Players now play for their 2nd contract and then check out mentally. It’s tantamount to a big FU to the NFL.

      #yangeffect

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Virginia McCaskey actually died in 2008. Ted Phillips replaced her with animatronic version to continue pulling strings. ”

    Absolutely shitty, uncalled for, senseless, stupid tweet. You deserve to have George, or ANY McCaskey walk up and smack you either right in the face or give you a swift kick in the nether regions, or BOTH, Blogfather.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Yea. You should probably develop a sense of humor or get offended less easily or BOTH.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I know funny, sonny, and THAT ain’t it.

        Your response defending that pile is worthy of ODB crying “it’s all about me and the toothpaste I use.”

        Maybe you should stop drinking while you tweet.

      • BearDown100393

        • AlbertInTucson

          Bruno Kirby. Alas, his character didn’t know funny.

          Hell of an actor though, from that to the Young Clemenza in GODFATHER II.

          He died young. on 57 in 2006.

    • CanadaBear

      I don’t get making fun of Virginia. I certainly wish the Bears had better mgmt and the owners knew more about football, but I’ve never doubted Virginia’s or George’s desire to win. Mikey on the other hand …

      • Cormonster

        She’s the one who gave Mikey the reigns even after Daddy said he didn’t want that cardigan wearing pussy running the team. The guy was a complete disaster and a royal schmuck.

        • CanadaBear

          No doubt she has suspect judgement but I never question her desire to win.

  • Bender McLugh

    “Talking to wrong guy about Soldier Field. I love the place.”

    Agreed, I’ve only seen one game in the new, it was great

    • AlbertInTucson

      Haven’t been there since before the renovation.

      I was there before the renovated the first time.

      It was bad news then as a venue. Still had the track running around the football field.

      We were there for an auto thrill show.

  • Bernie Cohen

    The perfect time to be gone wth Cutler. Bear offense looks good. That is, until they get to the red zone. How about some freakin’ innovation. Field goals suck!

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Lovie’s getting taken to the woodshed by Harbaugh. I wonder what the Bears would have done with a Bill Cowher type HC instead of Lovie? Sigh….

    • AlbertInTucson

      Remember, Pittsburgh had to show some patience with Cowher.

      Prior to his Super Bowl Year, his post season record was sub .500.

      • MB30SD

        What’s a post season record?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sorry. I forgot that’s become a foreign language here.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly. I’ll take any damn post season anything at this point al

          • AlbertInTucson

            Cowher did take some in in western PA for some early playoff flame outs.

    • BerwynBomber

      True but in fairness I will give Lovie a couple/few years in Champaign before passing judgment on his college career. He inherited a drowning, anemic program. And they will never have the inherent recruiting advantages that a UM or OSU does.

      • MB30SD

        #lovied!

      • AlbertInTucson

        The program he inherited was a complete dumpster fire.

        And Illini football is already way down at the bottom of the Big Ten food chain to start with.

        • MB30SD

          Still, they’ll get #lovied at some point

          .375, then .500, then .600, then .500, the .750 (hallelujah!), then right back down to .375… rinse repeate

  • BuddhaJoe

    I would’ve thought the O’s complete inability to score points the last few weeks would stop the retarded Cutler bashing but apparently not. Look, he’s the only reason this team won anything the last two years and now we’re talking about fucking Barkley? Thursday’s game was what every game the last few years would’ve looked like without Cutler, an offensive shitshow where they’re lucky to score a single TD. This is what he’s been dealing with.

    • BerwynBomber

      Who’s bashing him? Some just wish to move on after this year. Is that bashing?
      #strawman

      • BuddhaJoe

        I guess it’s not bashing, but we just saw a glimpse of what it’ll be like without him and I can’t believe people still want to ditch him. Yeah he throws more picks than you want, but he’s been turning chicken shit into chicken salad for years and nobody seems to get it.

        • MB30SD

          I am. Fuck that guy. Done with his bipolar (apologies to the real deal) ass.

          Like the crazy girlfriend who’s only an 8, but creates enough fucking life-destabalizing drama for an 11.5.

          Time to move on, use what we have (hoyer/shaw) and draft the best qb available come april

          • BuddhaJoe

            Hoyer? That’s fucking retarded, the guy can’t throw more than ten yard downfield and couldn’t beat the fucking Jags. This is exactly what I’m talking about. Shaw maybe, but the guy had 5 minutes of preaseason against scrubs.

          • MB30SD

            Who. Cares.

            Until we have the other pieces it doesn’t matter dude.

            Cutler will never get us there. Sure if our D and specials are insane maybe he’ll get us to the playoffs… MAYBE.

            That’s fact, history even.

            Shitcan weekend at bernies and his garbage crew, hire a real fucking coach, then draft the #1 qb and do a real rebuild for a year or two more then kick up a dynasty run for a decade. That’s what I want.

            Getting a real football president and/or ceo should be part of that, but it wont be.

          • BuddhaJoe

            He already did and you contradicted your own point. NOBODY is gonna get them there without what you mentioned, and we already saw a good D get wasted by Grossman/Orton et all. Yeah, let’s draft Kizer and watch him get destroyed just like Cutler did, that’s brilliant. Only a hall of famer is gonna do what you seem to want and the chances of getting one of those is slim.

          • MB30SD

            We SHOULD have won that sb hands down. That fucking buffoon 100% coached us into a loss. 100%

            You put orton in, leave tj in and we win, i have zero doubt in my head. You guys all wonder why i hate lovie so much… he fucked this org out of at least one sb because he’s about as smart as a bag of fucking clawhammers.

            And bullshit… so what’s your suggestion mr. Bellicheat? Roll with cutler and get to the post season once in a decade? Status quo?

            How is that an answer? I Don’t need more fucking problems Joe, i need solutions.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Put together an offense like they did in 2013 and not have a franchise worst defense, done deal.

            And I totally agree with you about the SB.

          • MB30SD

            Long, sitton, whitehair, leno, alshon, royal, white, bellamy, irish’ guy (name?), Howard, carey, langford. One more tackle and some injury luck and that’s a hell of an O for a competent qb and OC maing. Cutler aint the answer.

          • BuddhaJoe

            And yet without Cutler they can barely score TDs so he must be worth something. Hell, to your point above if we’d had a guy like like Cutler from 04-06 we might have won multiple SBs instead of losing one.

          • MB30SD

            Sure, just take away the inordinate amount of INTs and lost stripsacks and we’re golden!

          • BuddhaJoe

            I’ll give you that, sure. He’s like a lesser Brett Favre if he’d been on a shitty team. Just don’t think most of the “better” QBs would’ve done shit if they were on this team at the time instead of Cutler., which is why I don’t think he’s the problem.

            I did like this argument though, glad somebody else was bored enough on a Saturday night.

          • MB30SD

            Congrats on the engagement btw…. and rip the real you. Hahaha

          • BuddhaJoe

            Hey now!! Thanks, good luck with the kiddies, I always liked them as long as they weren’t mine.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Speaking of Saturday night. what are you doing here arguing with a lame-o like me on Saturday? I’m engaged, what’s your excuse? (kidding)

          • MB30SD

            I have my kids this weekend

          • SC Dave

            It is pure speculation to assume Cutler would have led to any more points than Hoyer.

          • CanadaBear

            Leno, White, Bellamy, those 3 very avg at best RB’s are part of a hell of an O? Uh, no.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Every swinging dick in Chicago knew Orton should have started throughout the playoffs that year but Lovie. Orton had earned that right after he stepped in that season imo. Besides, we all knew who Grossman was. He was a stumble and a fumble away from friggin disaster every time he touched the ball. Still pisses me off.

          • SC Dave

            Its nothing compared to Ditka starting Flutie.

          • SC Dave

            Chico and his inability to figure out how to stop passes to running backs didnt help.

          • MB30SD

            No tommie vasher or mike brown’ll suddenly do that to you

          • BerwynBomber

            Cutler played when we had a strong D too. So I don’t see your point. Did he waste our D too, a’la Grossman and Orton?

          • BuddhaJoe

            And we went to the NFC Championship when that happened, and almost won even though he got injured. My point is that he’s imperfect but was never really the problem, he was just an easy scapegoat because he was the QB.

          • BerwynBomber

            And we went to the SB with a combination of Grossman and Orton.

            Cutler’s not the problem (though I’m still not a fan of his contract), but he’s not the solution either. He could stick around for another year. We’ll see. Hell, maybe he finally suits up against MIN next week.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Agreed, although I would also agree with MB that we need to draft a QB high next year, he’s absolutely right about that.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yup. If we don’t draft one in the first three rounds, Pace is done.

          • beninnorcal

            And we got to the playoffs(’10) and should have gotten to the playoffs(’11) were he not injured, when we paired him with a decent defensive unit. You could also make an argument for ’12, as we should normally be in the post season with 10 wins.
            Anytime we’ve paired Cutler with a decent defense we’ve had a shot.

          • BerwynBomber

            Woulda, shoulda, coulda. I see your point but the league is ultimately about results. And btw, I’m not arguing Cutler can’t win.

          • EnderWiggin

            Last time Cutty had a good D, we were 7-1 when he broke his thumb.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, Cutler is miles better than Barkley. We all know that. And he is certainly more talented than Hoyer and Cutty’s upside provides ultimate differentiation there.

          But turning to dross to gold the last eight years? I must have missed it.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Other than three games of McCown, nobody has done shit with any of the offenses he’s been a part of, and even that was overrated. Plus it had been since one season of Kramer that the Bears passing game had been anything but shit.

            People seem to forget that the Bears treated the forward pass as some kind of Hoodoo black magic until he showed up for the most part.

          • SC Dave

            It was less overrated than Cutlers career.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Gary Danielson just speculated that a 2-loss Wisconsin team is still in the playoff hunt.

    That is baloney.

    • MB30SD

      Jimmys taking his boys to the show

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t see Wisconsin beating Michigan or OSU anyway.

        • MB30SD

          Yup

    • BerwynBomber

      But the college football playoffs are a bit of joke anyway. Four teams make it out of how many? And they’re voted on?

      • AlbertInTucson

        I don’t disagree but at least this was a step in the right direction.

        Have to figure they will eventually go to 8.

  • BerwynBomber

    Lots of teams are injured. Hell, the lame ass Cheese lost their second most important O player and their best CB for the year (and their starting C still hasn’t played a down). MIN lost Teddy, AP and their starting LT for the year. DET has been dealing with major injuries too.

    The Cutty argument is semi-legit (though I’m not buying he automatically would have us 19-0), but injuries have laid waste to the whole NFCN. So it’s an excuse for everyone in our division. Not just us.

    • AlbertInTucson

      You can lose a LOT of guys and compensate.

      Except your starting QB.

      I doubt if any Steeler fans are excited about the prospect of 4 -6 weeks worth of Landry Jones as their #1 QB.

      • BearDown100393

        Dak Prescott

        • willbest

          Tom Brady. Sometimes you find lightening in a bottle.

      • willbest

        Which is why the Vikings bought a starting quality QB. That being said, I think if Long, Nanny, Fuller, and Goldman had been 100% (or whatever passes for 100% in the NFL) the whole time, Jay or no Jay we have at least 2 more wins.

      • BerwynBomber

        R-berger is a potentially a HoF QB. Cutler is not. Plus, Brian Hoyer is better than Landry Jones.

        Losing Cutler hurts but the drop-off between him to Hoyer is not humungous.

      • SC Dave

        Bridgewater was Minnesota’s starting QB.

        • AlbertInTucson

          There are exceptions to every rule. The Cowboys have survived losing Romo this season.

          The’ 72 Dolphins lost Bob Griese for the bulk of the regular season and still went unbeaten.

  • willbest

    Cubs making Kershaw their bitch… didn’t expect to see that. And an extra day of rest before the World Series would be good too. Hope they keep the lead.

    • BerwynBomber

      Cubs are a juggernaut. All credit to Epstein and company for the job they did. But honestly, should have happened years earlier given the built-in Wrigley riches advantage.

      • Johnnywad

        Does Epstein do football?

        • BerwynBomber

          I know, right. But what he did with the Cubs was a little easier.

          Baseball has little to no salary cap. And the Cubs drew 3+ million people even when they lost 100 games. They should be drowning in cash. And I would think the WGN contract pays them handsomely.

          Football is all about parity and equal revenue sharing. Hence, what the Patriots have done is pretty damn remarkable.

          • CanadaBear

            When Zell sold the team he hamstrung the new owners so they aren’t awash in as much cash as you think. Plenty of debt to service. Not to mention fixing up the old dump. It wasn’t the cash that did it. It was the tanking, great picks in the draft, a few good trades (a few stinkers too), getting lucky with Maddon being available and terrific FA signings.

        • AlbertInTucson

          We wish, but that also assumes the Bears would have been smart enough to hire him.

      • SC Dave

        The Cubs are nothing, outside of an NL pennent.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Just set out a mouse trap and it took a whole 5 minutes to get the fucker. I am the Mouse Reaper.

    • Johnnywad

      That means there are a shit load of them. Better get more traps.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Got a few out. We live in the upstairs of a converted house so they only come when the weather changes and they don’t last long.

    • AlbertInTucson

      What’d you use for bait?

      • MB30SD

        Tom

  • BearDown100393

    Kershaw doesn’t care.

  • BuddhaJoe

    So Cubs look like they’re doing it. Tigers fan but I hope they go all the way now. Fuck Cleveland.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Kyle Hendricks, your table is ready.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Cubs are doing it man.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Against Kershaw.

      Just the way you’d want it.

      • BuddhaJoe

        And they did. It’s gonna be a crazy series, two teams that haven’t won in decades.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Rumored that the Cubs will activate Schwarber to DH in the series.

          • willbest

            That sounds crazy

          • AlbertInTucson

            He’s been tuning up out here in the Arizona Fall League.

            The guy is a PROTOTYPICAL DH.

          • willbest

            But doesn’t it take longer than 6 months to recover from an ACL?

          • AlbertInTucson

            The 4 letter ran it on their bottom line so, it MUST Be true…?

  • Goin to Hell with Pernell (GP)

    The only thing that would make this night better is if somebody ran Sam Zell over with a car.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sorry, I will need further explanation on that, please.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blackhawks pulled a rabbit out of their hat tonight.

    Still giving up way too many goals against.

    • CanadaBear

      I was shocked Toronto was hammering them and then the world got back on its axis.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, I click back over to ABC expecting to see that OSU has chloroformed Penn State. And instead, PSU blocks a FG attempt and returns it for a go ahead TD. VERY Interesting.

  • AlbertInTucson

    OSU in a DEEP hole.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Good night, Buckeyes!

      • MB30SD

        Mr. Harbaugh…. your table is ready

  • AlbertInTucson

    OSU alum, Kirk Herbstreit doing the color on OSU at Penn State.

    Jim Harbaugh smiling big.

    • BerwynBomber

      Wow. Did not see that coming.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The line was OSU minus 20.

        I would have laid the 20 in a heartbbeat.

        • BerwynBomber

          And scoring 17 unanswered in the fourth? Dang …

          • AlbertInTucson

            OSU special teams were not so special. Got a punt blocked in addition to that blocked FG that won the gamee.

            Plus, they gave up as many sacks in the second half as they had all season.

  • Bender McLugh

    Kyle Hendricks, you are my Oprah

  • AlbertInTucson

    A win over Minnihaha is not out of the realm of possibility.

    The Vikes havent been able to run the ball and 5 games plus what he played LAST season is a LONG stretch for Bradford to go without limping off the field.

    Scoring on their defense will have to be set up by the Bear defense.

    Has to turn into an ugly game. 13 to 10 type of thing.

    Of course I EXPECT what WILL happen is Asiata will run for 90+ and two TDs or some such nightmare.

    More likely, the Bear offense will hang the defense out to dry , again.

    • BerwynBomber

      And for whatever reason we seem to play them tight. And Cutler might be ready to go at that point.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Butch and Sundance just starting on my local PBS affiliate.

    Card player: “I didn’t know you were the Sundance Kid when I said you were cheating.
    If I draw on you, you’ll kill me.”

    Sundance: “There’s that possibility.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      I always forget that Agnes, the hooker Butch is with when posse comes back to town, is played by none other than, Cloris Leachman. “Phyllis” from THE MARY TYLER MOORE SHOW.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Butch: “I’ll jump first.”

        Sundance: “Nope”.

        Butch: “Alright, YOU jump first.”

        Sundance : “NO!”

        Butch: “What’s the matter with you?”

        Sundance: “I can’t SWIM!”

        Butch:(Laughs) “You CRAZY?! The FALLwill probably KILL ya!”

  • Malice Halice

    Just bought me the world series t-shirt! Cubs putting in work! Even though I’m from the south side gotta show one of the most over-due teams in sports history some love

    • AlbertInTucson

      Southsider.

      43rd & Halsted, once upon a time.

      • Malice Halice

        Good shit. Not too far from me on 39th & king Dr.

        • AlbertInTucson

          More importantly, not too far from 35th & Shields. Comiskey Park.

          • Malice Halice

            Specifically Ida B Wells

          • AlbertInTucson

            You could hear the Sox’ scoreboard explode from our old 2-flat.

        • AlbertInTucson

          39th street.

          Also known as Pershing Road.

          • Malice Halice

            I had to learn to say 39th cuz nobody outside the low end knew about Pershing road.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • bearfacts

    Call me after Fox is gone. Until then this team will do zip this year or in the foreseeable future. I have yet to see any Bears HC have his teams less prepared to play 60 minutes of football than him.

    The only cultural change I’ve seen in this organization since Lovie was fired is one that’s gone from being average to one that’s now at the level of being one of the worst run teams in the NFL.

    How to you build a winning culture when the CEO claims corporate sponsorship is far more important to him than winning. F you Ted Phillips.

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