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Postseason Positional Analysis Part II: Running Backs

| January 11th, 2016

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Ryan Pace went out of his way to salute the Bears running backs room in his postseason presser and why wouldn’t he? Matt Forte, Jeremy Langford and Ka’Deem Carey were arguably the most versatile and dynamic backfield in the league.

Forte can do everything. Langford looks like he’ll be able to do everything. Carey was the ideal third back, most useful in short yardage and down around the goal line. (He also contributed on specials.)

Six weeks ago I would have said the Bears were crazy to re-sign Forte at his age and somewhat declining skills but my tune has changed significantly. Why? A few reasons.

(1) Bears are building a power run offensive line and having two top of the line backs was how John Fox found success in Carolina.

(2) Short passing game is essential to this offense and Bears may not be ready to allow Langford to exclusively assume that role as he’s been far too inconsistent catching the ball in big spots.

(3) Forte is still really good and there’s no reason to believe he’s going to fall off the cliff in 2016. Bears shouldn’t break the bank and bring him in on a long-term deal but two years at $5M per is reasonable and fair.

I’ve heard the arguments against it, including from myself. With the Bears having so many needs to fill, why put any money into a position of strength? Because WITHOUT Forte in the fold, the Bears would be an awkward cut by Jeremy Langford away from relying upon either (a) Carey to become an every down back or (b) another mid-to-late round rookie to pick up the system in his first year and make a large contribution.

With Forte back at a reasonable rate in 2016 the Bears may enter the season with the greatest collection of skill guys in the organization’s history. Without him, the Bears will be looking again to the draft.

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  • Cormonster

    Please please please resign Forte. Interesting little stat: I just looked up Forte and Payton’s total yards after their first 8 seasons in the league. Forte has 33 more yards from scrimmage than Payton did after their first 8 seasons.

    • Cormonster

      Some more food for thought. Payton had 3 great years from 83-85, averaging over 2,000 total yards each season. Who’s to say Forte can’t do the same thing, especially if they can build a good O-line in front of him. He’s been remarkably durable, and by all accounts he’s a workout warrior who takes great care of his body. It’s a different era, but from 83-85 is when the Bears had Matt Suhey, who helped spell Payton by averaging over 10 touches a game. The Bears could use the same formula by spelling Forte with Langford and Carey. Give them 10-15 touches a game.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Spelling him is obviously a good idea … but then you can hardly pay him like a #1 -because he’s carrying less – and he didn’t break 900 yards on the ground this year and was tied 25th for TDs. Plus, you have to factor in injuries – he’s had more injuries than Wally and that may take its toll next year, his 9th.

        Pace will add all of that up, and suggest a number. Is his agent going to drop from 9+ to 5M? I don’t think so. Thing is, will anyone else pay him 7-9M?

        • That Guy

          This is exactly right. Forte will follow the money, and I can’t blame him for that – this is his last big contract.

          He’ll be looking for the $8M/year range. If someone else offers it, he’s gone.

      • MB30SD

        Dave, is that you? HaHahaha

      • Irish Sweetness

        Matt never got spelled? Seriously Cor, just look at Matt’s rushing totals, to say they’re bog standard doesn’t do it justice. He barely gets 1000 yards a year. that’s 60 YPG. Undeniably, receiving is his game. But having watched both, one is a legend, the other is not.

        • That Guy

          “He barely gets 1000 yards a year” is sort of like Mr. Burns saying “I don’t know why Harvard even bother to show up, they barely even won.”

          A lot of good running backs don’t make 1000 yards. Forte is a great back. I agree he’s not Walter, but he’s a great running back.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Didn’t open up the comparison, but had to shut it down. If you’re barely getting 1000 yard per season I don’t think you can be called great. In fact, you’re not.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s some cherry pickin, man. Here’s some more comparisons.

      After 8 seasons each, they achieved ….

      Rushing TDs: Walter 71, Matt 41.

      Times Gained >1100 yards: Walter 6, Matt 1.

      NFL MVP awards : Walter 3, Matt 0.

      NFC offensive MVP : Walter 2, Matt 0.

      Pro bowls : Walter 6, Matt 2.

      All-Pro 1st teams : Walter 3, Matt 0.

      All-Pro 2nd teams : Walter 2, Matt 0.

      Walter also won NFL 1970s All-Decade Team, NFL 1980s All-Decade Team and a Super Bowl.

      How many people will talk about Matt as one of the greatest players of all-time?

      Will he make the HOF barely breaking 1000 yards per year? They are running backs remember.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, no one compares to WP. But Matt would certainly be a no-brainer for a Bears HoF. He has been a wonderful player.

        Btw, Forte’s All-Pro and Pro Bowl #s are exactly why he and Tillman (whose honors are similar) won’t get near Canton (at least as of now). Briggs’ #s are a little better in those regards but he won’t make it either.

        • Irish Sweetness

          A no-brainer? Based on what though? HOF running backs need to bring it. Roger Craig, Herschel Walker, Chuck Foreman, Ricky Watters, Otis Anderson, Terrell Davis ….. none of them are in the Hall of Fame.

          • BerwynBomber

            I meant no-brainer for a BEARS HOF (if one existed), NOT the NFL HOF (in Canton).

            Only Bear of recent ilk that will make the latter is Urlacher, though both Hester and Peppers might have shots.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ah, for sure. I hope he makes the Hall obviously, but RB is stacked.

          • BerwynBomber

            No way Forte will make Canton. Two Pro Bowls and zero All-Pros won’t cut it.

          • BillW

            I agree. I just think it’s a shame Forte gets compared to Walter. And we speak of him not making the hall as if it’s a knock on him. I know it’s not meant that way at all, but can sound that way. He is one of the best RBs the Bears have had in their nearly 100 year history, and that’s saying a lot right there.

          • SC Dave

            And the number one player in the entire league in total yards since he arrived.

  • Irish Sweetness

    @#$%@ Packers !

    What’s all this about Langford and Carey being all we have? Is Senorise Perry not a Bear? Jock-squeeze? Perry can score from anywhere on the field. Jockers is our pass-catching back. Then there’s the draft. But forking out 5M per is out of the question, especially when AJ has his hand out too, and he’s probably the more necessary signing. Going to war with only Kevin White on board out of those we have would be suicide. 2.5M max for Matty, and his agent likely won’t be having that. Good to have him around – no doubt – but not for 5M. No way.

    Don’t give up on Perry – dude’s only 24. Has Matty ripped any of these off lately?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gJTvrPIHwU

    • Big Mike

      Pay the man. $5m for Forte and having a positing group that has a high top end, exceptional depth is a bargain. Bears have plenty of $. There’s a reason Perry and Jock Squeeze were on the bench.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Looking at his contract, his cap hit was 9.2M this season, so if he can do it for 5M, then it doesn’t look so bad. AJ is going to want how much? We paid him 1.4M this year. Tagging him is ten times that, and we’re going to have to sign a lot of bodies. I don’t know if Forte is a fine wine we can afford anymore. Forte AND Alshon is not doable methinks.

        Or is it?

        http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/

        58M?

        • Big Mike

          It’s $58m. One of the biggest caps in the league. There are also a couple guys with cap figures that arent’ guaranteed that might get whacked. Bushrod comes to mind. I’ve read the Bears could easily have $70 million available. If Forte and Jeffery are $20mm of that and Forte’s is a short deal, It’s a huge win. Here’s the thing Forte gets you 100 yds a game no matter what else we have going. Injured WR, no TEs bad OL you name it. He’s a clubhouse leader and he’s not done. If they rotate him like they did at the end of the season he’s a good value.

          I’m not being sentimental, I can see the case for letting him go. If the Bears were struggling with cap space, It would be an obvious move. But they are not. They can sign. I’m also a believer that big names in FA aren’t a very safe bet. The way Pace has been going at it, I think he likes to live a step below the big name guys and find value. (like McPhee). It’s going to be a fun offseason for sure.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think AJ is the bigger question, not Forte. I can live with 5M if Pace can make it work. But AJ’s agent is going to want 10M plus. I’d rather keep Matty at that point, let AJ test the market and perhaps walk. Sign two vet WRs and it’s happy days. AJ’s injury deals the last two years are a huge red flag.

            That way we keep Matty around for his receiving skills, and say goodbye to the injury risk.

          • CanadaBear

            He played all 16 in 2014.

    • BerwynBomber

      Hah! You and those preseason highlights, Irish.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Irrelevant methinks. Is he slower because it’s pre-season? Can Matty leave people in his wake? If not, he cannot be paid mad dollars.

        • He’s not slower because it’s preseason, but there’s no defender within five yards of him from the time he gets the hand off because it’s pre-season.

          • Johnnywad

            Devin Hester was lightning fast back in the day. Didn’t help him much when he tried to function through the O instead of ST. Speed doesn’t automatically put one in the end zone. Especially so if the player in question has a brain the size of a walnut.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Oh, and R.I.P. Ziggy Stardust.

  • chitownproud85

    I’m with ya, Jeff. As hard as it is to believe now, I’ve somehow done a complete 180 on the Forte situation. Bring him back. I think he’s made it clear that the Bears will get SOME form of hometown discount to retain his services, and that alone makes it the right decision. We have a RIDICULOUS amount of cap space, and while I know we also have a RIDICULOUS number of needs, lets not even TOY with the idea of RB being one of them. The REAL Matty ice, 2 years at 5 apiece. TAKE THE DEAL MATT!

    • willbest

      A home town discount would be 6 mil for 2 years with a snap count escalator. 5 mil is way overpaying unless half of it is active roster bonus

    • Johnnywad

      Pace was pretty clear he’s not going to chase with crazy money in FA. I really think he’s looking long term. I’ll be shocked if he’s wasteful with the cap money. Should be plenty of room to retain Forte for two years with no harm done.

  • I have 2 reasons I believe Forte should not be a Bear next year:

    1) $$$. There’s no point paying him the $4M a year it will take when they can get 95% of his production from his two backups, who combine for a cap hit of $1.3M next year.

    2) $$$. You never want to get stuck paying a player on the decline at a position like RB. When it goes, it goes fast, and it’s better to let them go a year too early than too late.

    3) Locker room dynamics. So say you give Forte a deal similar to Frank Gore’s, which is basically 2 years, $8M. The odds are very good that at some point in the next 2 years Forte will be the 3rd best RB on the team. How do you bench a guy like that? You can’t, so you get stuck overpaying and overplaying somebody who’s washed up.

    Let Forte go and play somewhere else, roll with the nice 1-2 punch you have for a fraction of the cost. Those guys are younger, cheaper, and will only get better, while Forte is at the point in his career where historically a huge and sudden decline is coming very soon.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Well he was the best running back on the team this year and there’s no reason to believe he’ll be washed up in the next year. It’s also going to remain a full rotation at the position so it’ll actually restrict his usage.

      • Irish Sweetness

        “..so it’ll actually restrict his usage.”

        Exactly. So why pay him 5 Million dollars???? So he can run his 4.1 yards – that we can get from anyone – with more sentimental value and with a sense of history …?

        Then again, 58M is a lot ….

        As long as they don’t tag AJ. That’s just cray cray.

        • willbest

          If you don’t tag AJ you lose him in FA.

      • willbest

        No evidence marshawn lynch was not going to be productive this year except for his age.

    • That Guy

      1) You have to pay somebody. Instead of looking at production from Langford and Kerry, look at the free agent market. We have a ton of cap room. If we don’t pay Forte, which FA are we going to pay instead? Look at Chip Kelly – he cuts McCoy to save money (the kind of money Forte will want), then he ends up paying a similar contract to DeMarco Murray.

      2) As to locker room dynamics. Rewarding a team leader like Forte by not low-balling him is huge for locker room dynamics. You don’t overpay him – nobody will fault Pace if Jerry Jones gives Forte $10M a year. But you also don’t want players to feel like you don’t appreciate your veterans – that’s what happened with Emery and Lach.

      And yes, if Forte falls off, you bench him. He didn’t fall off this year and the team still limited his carries. Fox isn’t scared of his players – if he sits Forte due to poor play, players will respect him.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I respect your opinions as much or more as any on this Blog, JW, but I think

      “…they can get 95% of his production from his two backups…”

      is assuming a LOT.

      • SC Dave

        I laughed out load at that. A silly JW comment to be sure

  • BerwynBomber

    Performances by PIT’s and even SEA’s RBs over the weekend won’t help, especially PIT’s who used a couple of third and fourth-string no-names to gash a pretty formidable D in CIN’s.

    Forte is arguably the second or third best offensive skill player of the Bears modern era. He, along with guys like Briggs and Tillman, would be first-ballot enshrines in a Bears HoF, if such a thing existed. And he certainly is a huge security blanket for Cutler.

    But Fox and Pace might be of the RB-by-committee mindset, in which case, a thirty year old back asking for a decent pay day might be a bridge too far. I sense they will make some type of offer so as to show respect but ultimately the message will be for Forte to look elsewhere.

    • Big Mike

      I can see this. I’d still keep him. But my plan as a GM would be to as close to pro-bowl level talent on the OL from Tackle to Tackle. I’d pay a premium there and then all my skill players miraculously are better.

      • BerwynBomber

        And I see your argument too. It is a tough call. Funny, I have always thought that Forte is hugely under-appreciated by the majority of DBBers (SCDave being the exception), but I have almost done the opposite 180 of Blogfather — time to wish Matty happy trails.

        Will be an interesting off-season in many ways.

        • Big Mike

          I thought his run was definitely over after Langsford had a few good games in a row. Then I saw how good the running game looked with the Forte/Carey/Langsford. Fresh legs in the 4th QTR, in December/January.. that’s a big deal. One guy goes down, how is that for depth. Not to mention what it does for the locker room. Keeping a guy like Forte shows some loyalty. Not blind loyalty, but it shows that being a good man counts. Additionally, the Bears have plenty of cap space. So the opportunity cost isn’t let Forte go or you can’t sign the FA class that you want. Bears might even have more FA $ than they should spend. If you look at it another way, $6million invested in the RB group for the talent we have back there isn’t out of line. Especially if Forte’s deal is short. Which I would argue it needs to be.

          With all of that said, the first move they make in FA will tell us infinitely more than we know now about what position groups are going to be targeted in the draft.

          • Irish Sweetness

            6M for the group? But you’re taking about giving 5M to Forte. Carey/Langford/Perry/Rodgers. That’s 12 or 13 million for the group.

          • Big Mike

            I think down below @johnathanwood:disqus said $1.4 is the cap hit for Care & Langford and $4million for Forte would be a very competitive offer. The other two guys Perry and Rogers I don’t know anything about them, don’t even know if they played special teams.Since I pay very close attention to the Bears, it must mean they didn’t do much. Maybe they’re good, maybe they’re not. But we don’t need to spend much to fill out the bottom of the RB room.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Well, they were both injured for the year ….

          • Big Mike

            Oh. So what do you like about those guys.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Perry for his burst/upside, he’s young. Could be special. Don’t know if he has good hands or not yet.

            Rodgers is the hands guy, to replace Matty. He’s not a bad runner either, small scat-back. Could be a good slot guy (5’6).

          • Big Mike

            I didn’t want you to do all the work , so I looked them up. Rodgers had a very impressive combine grade

            http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jacquizz-rodgers?id=2495471 5’6″ in the NFL is almost always a gadget play guy. 4-5 carries a game maybe. Not sure why he graded so highly.

            I do remember Senorise Perry as a special teams player in 2014. A year I try to forget. http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/jacquizz-rodgers?id=2495471

            Certainly both guys are worth having in camp. If Jizz (that has to be his nickname) can squirt his way (oh man) around in the secondary, he might be an elusive threat. But who exactly is he going to block when he doesn’t have the ball…

          • BerwynBomber

            Pathetic that I don’t know this (or forgot it): but was the Jizz injured most of the year? I expected to see a little more of him than we did, but after the first few games he disappeared.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Jizz, okay. Yeah, he is a borderline dude to have around at 5’6. I think you need one though. Shifty little buggers that are quick, and hard to track if you’re a bigger guy.

          • Johnnywad

            Squirt his way around in the box…….

          • Irish Sweetness

            Carey AND Langford = 1.4??? Dang.

          • Johnnywad

            Langford is a 4th rounder in his first season. He’s free by NFL standards

          • MB30SD

            The other 4 are super cheap irish, where’d you get 12/13?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Matt = 5M

            4 x 1.8M(?) per the others. Rodgers could be a return guy on ST, or Carey/Perry/Langford.

          • MB30SD

            not all those guys are getting $2M/year maing. no way. Does anyone know the real #s?

        • Doc Nitty

          I’ve always been a fan. Though I won’t be heart broken if he leaves.

        • SC Dave

          The Bears will be a worse team without Matt Forte than with him.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pittsburgh proved the point perfectly. Perry is 24. He can run like a mofo. So can Langford. Need a guy to catch it? Rodgers? Langford has made a couple of great catches, an the nay-sayers will point at a few drops. RBs are ten-a-penny, and over-paying a 31 year old with multiple knee-injuries just doesn’t make sense. His previous stats are irrelevant at this point. Why pay one guy 5M, when we can pay 4 guys 1.5M? Younger guys, that are improving all the time. Sentimentality has no place in football..

      It’s just business.

      • CanadaBear

        He just turned 30. Why pay one guy 5 when you pay 4 guys 6? Because the 4 guys are not as good as the guy you pd 5.

        • SC Dave

          So fuckin this.

      • SC Dave

        Nor do preseason fantasies have a place. Hell, you called some schlub the next Walter Payton that didnt make the fucking team. Didnt make any team so far as i know.

        So forgive me for dismissing this nonsense too.

  • BillW

    To me it almost comes down to “why not”. The Bears do have plenty of cap space and from what I can gather Pace isn’t into spending it all trying to make a splash. That said, there will be enough for a decent end of career contract for Matt. I suspect they are inclined to offer it to him.

    Now Matt may decide to cash in elsewhere. He deserves it. But this is different than Urlacher or Briggs or even Tillman. Matt still has something left to give – especially in a rotation.

    The Bears have a lot of needs. And while I agree Langford/Carey should be enough, with an injury then we are hoping someone else can step up. If we were tight on cap space clearly they should not “waste” it on him. But they are in a unique position to “overspend” a little on a true Bear star and know going into the draft that RB is set.

    So again, why not?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Alshon.

      • BillW

        Tagged. I might be wrong, but I do believe the Bears are way under cap and probably won’t be able to spend it all effectively. If they are going to overspend anywhere, I’d argue for Matt getting that.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Tagging AJ is 14 million dollars, Bill. There’s maybe 3 receivers in the NFL worth that, and AJ isn’t one of them.

          That’s what I’m getting at, Matt isn’t the issue, AJ is.
          5M for Matt is nothing compared to tagging a receiver that’s played exactly half his games the last two seasons.

          • BerwynBomber

            Technically, Alshon has played 3/4 of his games the last two seasons: 24 of 32.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I thought he was only available for 7 games last year? NFL.COM says otherwise I guess.

          • BillW

            No doubt these are tough decisions. All I have are relatively worthless opinions as a fan. Got to trust Pace. But I look at it all as them being in position to insure things. Like the RB position, with so many holes to fill.

            And same at WR. AJ at 14 is overpaying for his 2015 performance, but not for his performance in the two years before. So it’s a “show me” contract that prevents us from wishing we hadn’t let him go. Again, with so many other holes to fill. I would NOT argue for trying to negotiate a long term deal.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This is it, exactly. Whatever Pace decides is what we do. His headache, not ours.

          • CanadaBear

            He played every game in 2014.

          • AlbertInTucson

            AND 2013.

          • That Guy

            Alshon’s deal will not effect how much we have available for Forte. Alshon is either getting tagged before FA starts, or he will sign a deal fairly quickly. I seriously doubt he hits the open market. The team can assume we’re paying him the cap number (which still allows enough for a good offer to Forte), and take any cap savings from a long term deal as gravy.

            White’s injury gives Alshon more bargaining power since we don’t know what else we have at the position. Alshon’s injury gives us more bargaining power since he has a history of being fragile. Forte’s contract situation does not come into play.

    • SC Dave

      Langford and Carey are NOT enough. A couple dozen carries by these guys and everyone thinks they are the bomb. Shit, you have no idea whether either one can carry the load for even one season. Let alone eight.

      Smh… so many times… smh

  • MB30SD

    Holy shit… RIP David Bowie.

    Didn’t see that coming. Bummer.

    • willbest

      Been fight cancer for 18 mo

      • MB30SD

        sure but the end was very sudden… yeah but I mean the very end when he actually died, that was very sudden.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-zf2UBp7fY

        • Sactowns#1

          Fletch is still one of my favorites.

          • MB30SD

            Hands. Down.

            Top 5 comedy of all time. anyone who doesn’t think so, well, I feel sorry for you… so there!

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Been arguing for Bears to bring in vet capable of winning when Cutler misses 2-3 games & developmental prospect. Isn’t Robert Griffin both?

    Hahahahahah ahaha hah ha hee hee he…. wait, are you motherfucking serious jeff?!?!?! Jesus H Christ dude.

    Know who I want as our backup… McCarron.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Griffin can play. And as a backup he would provide an entirely new set of skills to drive defenses nuts.

      • BerwynBomber

        How’s his knee(s)? What’s the money? Would be my two biggest questions.

        Still wish we would have started Fales one of the last couple of weeks.

      • MB30SD

        guy’s a lockerroon cancer jeff, we got rid of Bmarsh and he’s a potential HOFer. Griffin just isn’t worth the trouble.

        Besides, the whacky wildcat in chicago, no thanks.

      • BillW

        As click bait your proposal makes sense. In light of our getting rid of BMarsh (as MB points out) it does not. Not to mention the likelihood that Bennett is gone for a similar reason. I’m sorry but it really makes zero sense to take that kind of chance.

      • Sactowns#1

        Hell, I’d throw him in on 5-6 downs a game and make him the specials holder just to drive teams nuts.

    • BearDown100393

      Kordell Stewart seemed like a great idea for some people once upon a time.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Not THIS people. It was Mirer 2.0. except it didn’t cost a #1

  • The GP

    No article from Jeff or Andrew on the Cincy breakdown. Perhaps it is coming.

    It will go down in NFL history as one of the ugliest breakdowns of team discipline and coaching ever. Vontaze going full thug (never go full thug), and a total lack of anything resembling a football team at the end. You had Pacman ripping the NFL on social media afterward right from his locker – that will probably cost him dearly and maybe his career – you have Marvin Lewis now 0-7 in the postseason yet the ownership not knee jerking and saying they will stick with him despite that ugly game – you had violence in the parking lot between fans – it was like football hooliganism.

    It was watching 11 men have a nervous breakdown or collectively experience CTE rage all at once on the field when even tradition would have dictated how to respond. Instead, insanity.

    That was one for the ages.

    • BerwynBomber

      Apparently they were also cheering as R-berger was carted to the lockerroom.

      Ah well — much as Burfect is dirty and a cheapshot artist — it is not a sport for the faint of heart. Even among fans.

      P.S. The Pacman penalty could have been off-setting as Joey Porter might have baited him. But, as always, it is the retaliation that draws the yellow.

      • MB30SD

        a fan threw a fucking water bottle at him as he was being carted off. animals.

      • Sactowns#1

        The refs handed that win to the Steelers. Cincy fans have a right to be angry.

        • BillW

          There has to be a line drawn else things would really get out of control.

          One possible solution is replay. None of this WWE crap where a guy shoves someone but the ref didn’t see it so the second guy only gets the flag. If they used replay and punished the first guy worse – maybe even worse than the second – it would cut down on things (maybe.)

    • Scharfinator

      Anyone think that Bryant TD wasn’t a catch? I didn’t see possession and two feet.

    • Bender McLugh

      +10 for the semi-Tropic Thunder ref

    • MB30SD

      “that will probably cost him dearly and maybe his career”

      Just stoooop thaaaaat!

  • Trac

    It’s time to let Forte go if he wants top dog pay. New team, new blood for Fox from here on out and I’m all in with going young blood.

    Besides, what message would the Bears send by holding onto an aging bald running back? Also, you gotta look at the PR side of things as well, the NFL wants more women fans and chick’s dig guys with lots of hair.

    Good morning MB. Hee hee.

    • CanadaBear

      Well, that’s a new reason to get rid of Forte.

    • willbest

      Even Urlacher knows what’s up? Bald men only have issues if they are fat. Cut bald men radiate raw masculine power, it wets all vaginas within 200 feet

      • The GP

        You are banned from ever using the words “wets all vaginas” again. So sayeth the blog.

        • MB30SD

          hahahahaha… it made me laugh

        • Bender McLugh

          only if he includes Vaaadgers

        • Sactowns#1

          Everyone knows the proper term is “moistens”

      • MB30SD

        400

    • Bender McLugh

      Chicks dig Forte my man. Just ask one.

      • Sactowns#1

        He looks like Commons buff brother. lol

    • Johnnywad

      We’re folically challenged Trac. Why do you hate bald people? You Hairist.

      • Trac

        Hahaha

    • MB30SD

      Solar panels for my sex machine baby!

      Balding is a sign of extra high testosterone… and huge penises.

      • CanadaBear

        Any chance you wrote that piece?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “(3) Forte is still really good and there’s no reason to believe he’s going to fall off the cliff in 2016. Bears shouldn’t break the bank and bring him in on a long-term deal but two years at $5M per is reasonable and fair.”

    Works for me.

  • AlbertInTucson
    • CanadaBear

      Almost all team play-by-play announcers are homers. I like Joniak but I miss Larivee.

      • Doc Nitty

        I wondered about that. I don’t find Joniak too impressive. Was their previous guy good? I want a guy for the ages doing play by play. I guy you can’t help but identify with your team. Like the Eagles play by play guy has an unmistakable voice that can’t help be associated with the Eagles.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Previous guy was Wayne Larivee is is one of the best though I find his “There is the Dagger” call distasteful.

          • Doc Nitty

            Everything I find on youtube makes it seem like he’s the current Packers guy. Are you telling me that we lost OUR play by play guy to the Cheese?

          • BillW

            Yes we did. He did the Bears during the SB year and around then but said his dream job was the Packers.

            Still did other things like DePaul basketball for a while. Maybe still does stuff like that around Chicago.

            He was very good. Before that was Joe McConnell who was also very good. He was the Vikings guy before doing the Bears.

            Before that, Jack Brickhouse and Irv Kupcient.

          • CanadaBear

            If you say Brickhouse and Kup were good, we will have to agree to disagree. No problem with Kup but Jack was crazy boring (both with the Cubs and Bears).

          • BillW

            Oh no – I didn’t mean to imply they were good. Just that they before McConnell.

            Here’s a true example:
            Brickhouse: That’s the shortest punt I ever saw!!!
            Kup (whispering): it was a fake, Jack.

          • CanadaBear

            Hey, hey!

          • Cormonster

            Larivee still does Big Ten football and basketball games, and is very good at both. He must really do his homework because he rarely fumbles with the name of a player.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That would be “Yes” and “Yes”.

          • Doc Nitty

            Holy shit! What a bastard!

          • Cormonster

            He said he grew up as a Packers fan, so that’s why he wanted the job. I love listening to him. If you can keep up, he’s the best play by play radio announcer I’ve ever heard. Packers fans didn’t like him at first because he would call it as he sees it and wasn’t a total homer. Also, they probably didn’t trust him because he came from the Bears.

            He also does a national NFL show early on Sunday mornings with Hub Arkush. They do an overview of all the week’s games. He also was the Bulls announcer during the Jordan years. Not sure after that, because I quit watching pro basketball.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Larivee was with the Bears from 1985-1998 on WGN.

            Prior to that it was the very excellent, Joe McConnell, from 1977-84 when the first had switched from WGN to WBBM.

            And prior to THAT was the long run of the guys I grew up listening to back on WGN, Jack Brickhouse and Sun Times Columnist, Chicago-TV Talk Show Host and Former NFL referee, Irv Kupcinet.

      • AlbertInTucson

        True, thus the qualifier “Big Time” for Mr. Allen.

  • AlbertInTucson
  • Bender McLugh

    RGIII will not sit quietly and go into that good (night) back-up QB role. He would make himself into a distraction.

    • Scharfinator

      I mean, he left a melodramatic note in his locker. Clearly he is growing up!

      • BearDown100393

        Meme styled note.

    • chitownproud85

      The idea of him wearing the burnt orange and navy blue is terrifying. Hes just so…weird? I dont even know what to say about that guy. I’m sure someone will pick him up because TALENT but faaaaaaaaak. No thanks.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “And I’m NOT a Griffin fan. But a humbled Griffin coming off the bench could be interesting.”

    I’ll believe he’s “humbled” when I see it.

    • Johnnywad

      If he isn’t by now, don’t hold your breath Al.

      • AlbertInTucson

        For sure. Breathing regularly here.

  • Sactowns#1

    Ah the snow was glorious on Saturday gentlemen! Went to Sierra at Tahoe and had a full day on the slopes. Lots of fresh powder and my buddy won a snowboard from Subaru. Sunday was a bit of a bummer as my bets did not come through. 🙁 I have a shot at redemption tonight though so keep your fingers crossed!

    • Doc Nitty

      Consider me jealous.

      • Sactowns#1

        Hit a new PR- 45.7 mph. The crazy things they can do with a cell phone ap these days.

        • Doc Nitty

          Nice! I’ve never tried that. The last time I went was the weekend the Giants beat the Pats in the SB in 2008. But if I had to guess, my personal best would probably be at least 45.8 mph.

          • Sactowns#1

            lol. Oh man I’m sure there are some little groms out there that could smoke me down the mountain. But then again, kids have rubber bones and huge egos.

  • The GP

    NFC Calls

    Packers at Cardinals. Saturday night game.

    Cardinals gave the Pack a proper beatdown Week 16, sacking Rodgers EIGHT times and pummeling them 38-8. This is Green Bay’s shot at redemption. There were two Packers teams yesterday, the one that got down 0-5 and then the one that played after the switch went on. How that happens is a mystery, you just do not see it that often. With the line deciding “hey let’s block”, Starks and Lacy took a load off Vadger’s shoulders to carry the thing. It was weird, it was like Snyder called down to the sidelines to tell Gruden to lay down and die. I don’t see how the Cardinals do the same but my NFL spidey sense is going off on this game. The Pack could upset here. Pack 38 Cards 34

    Beach birds at Carolina. Sunday at Noon.

    It’s Carolina’s season of destiny and I don’t see them stumbling. I don’t see Lynch back. I don’t see anything really that allows Seattle to win this game. As 538 points out, the Panthers pass defense took a 2 standard deviation upswing this year, they are playing great in the secondary and the linebackers are the best in the NFL. Good luck Russell. Panthers 41 Seahawks 13

    • MB30SD

      Hawk
      Zona beatdown 2.0

      Book it.

    • BillW

      It does seem (unfortunately) that the Packers found the switch. I didn’t believe they were as bad as they were showing. I didn’t see much of the game but I’m going to guess that the line blocked for Rodgers better – or at least better enough that he had confidence in his throws. That. plus a strong run game.

      Will that work against Arizona? Hopefully not.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Martavis Bryant.

    Very entertaining but it wasn’t a catch.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      he never lost control of it

      • AlbertInTucson

        Baloney.That thing was rolling around his body until he flew out of bounds. When he did secure it he was out of bounds.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          haha, Al, he had the thing never moved, he got 2 feet in then it never moved despite doing a somersault and putting it through his legs. It led Irish to proclaim that it was the best thing ever done in the western hemisphere. that is no small feat.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He re-gips and secures it with his right hand and his right calf when it gets to the back of his right knee but that right foot never came back down in bounds.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            let’s break down the film!
            GP???? Film please?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Relax. I looked at it several times before I replied.

            You think it was a catch. I don’t. We’re not going to convince each other.

            Time to move alone.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Al, i was going to respond to the Relax comment but i realized that you may have misinterpreted the exclamation point as some sort of excitement or challenge.
            In my mind it was like a cheesy announcer saying , “Tell him what he’s won Johnny”, on some gameshow…..
            In reality i could care less but did like the fact that i could use video to back up my response.

  • BillW

    JWood says: I have two reason to not sign Forte.

    He then lists 3.

    Glad you’re teaching chemistry instead of math!
    (Just joking of course. Hope it’s going well.)

    • willbest

      My recollection of chemistry is you would come out with something like 4.08923, and you would take that to mean H2SO4. So it was probably just a significant digits rounding error.

      • BillW

        That’s true. One was probably a catalyst that sped up the reaction without affecting the balance of the equation. My bad.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Maybe it’s extending kicker contracts that’s the problem.

    Per The Steve Czaban Show, The Queens had just signed Blair Walsh to a 4 year, $14m extension that included $5m guaranteed.

    • willbest

      If the Vikings had made it into the redzone, they wouldn’t have had to rely on the kicker to provide their entire offense. He needs to make that kick, but they can’t expect to win a playoff game without scoring a TD.

      Also remember, Robbie was rewarded for his blowing the vikings game in OT (inside I might add) with a contract extension.

      • BillW

        It’s still and maybe always will be a QB league. The better QBs all won the WC round. In the playoffs, it might just be that simple.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I can’t get behind that. That is the same mentality that calls one QB elite and one QB turnover prone when they both have 12 fumbles but miraculously one QB loses none of the fumbles and the other loses 6.

          • BillW

            Not sure the connection with what I said. I’m just observing that in each game this weekend the team with (arguably) the better QB won. I think Rodgers is better than Cousins; Rothlisburger better than Cincy backup; Wislon better than Teddy, and Smith better than Hoyer. So maybe in the playoffs that tips the scales.

            We’ll see how it turns out next week.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            but the better quarterback didn’t win in the Seattle game because he was the better quarterback. His team won because the kicker missed a kick that will be talked about in Minnesota for years. Years.

            The better quarterback didn’t win in steelers game because he was better but because of a new rule on hitting WR’s and because a former player for the steelers was on the field illegally and it resulted in a bengals player getting a 15yd penalty….and all started because the bengals fumbled when all they had to do was fall down and the game was effectively over.
            LIke it or not it is not that simple which was your last statement.

          • BillW

            Well, it just goes to show you, nothing is simple. (I didn’t watch the games.)

            Or to say it another way:
            “It might just be that simple. Then again, maybe not.”

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Seriously where is this rule that makes it illegal for a coach to be on a field DURING an official timeout due to a player injury? There are coaches on the field all the time when that happens. Besides, anyone giving in to “shit talking” by a coach when shit talking happens all the time as well is pathetic.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Joey Porter is a Steeler Nation or Die ring of honor dude and this rivalry goes back years. He is also a notorious punk. He was also not attending to Brown but just standing next to the bengals defense taunting. Jones claims he was there calling them bitches. It should have been offsetting.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Didn’t answer my question and no ref is going to enforce an unsportsmanlike penalty based on “shit talking” by a coach

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            http://www.sbnation.com/2016/1/10/10743904/steelers-bengals-joey-porter-foul
            watch the GIF. He’s a linebackers coach…on the field to help Bryant who is an offensive player???…except he’s not a trainer and is doing nothing to help. he is in fact in the middle of the Bengals defense. His mere presence is ludicrous.

            jesus, it looks like he was planted there.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I watched the game myself but it doesn’t prove justification the Bengals should have laid a hand on Porter bc of “shit talking”. Again coaches and players are seen on the field all the time when the game is stopped by a serious player injury. So my assumption is that perhaps it is illegal for coaches to be on the field between plays. Player injuries are official timeouts. Seen plenty of times all types of coaches and players all mingling on the field and/or kneeling or showing support for that injured player. Bottom line – Words don’t hurt, don’t flip your shit over it. Laying your hands on someone is obvious and indisputable proof of conduct.

          • Sactowns#1

            That’s exactly what I was thinking when I saw this live. There’s no way you should get a flag for that.

          • SC Dave

            Why the fuck not? Unsportsmanlike is unsportsmanlike.

          • SC Dave

            Only one fucking reason. It was Pittsburgh.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Read on to my other post

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        they had just driven all the way down the field with a key 3rd down conversion with almost no time left to put them within a 26 yard field goal to win the game. Please understand what a 26yard field goal is. You’d be cut from a sophomore highschool football team if you couldn’t make that kick. You can absolutely expect to win a playoff game without scoring a TD if the other team has 10pts, you have 9 and you’re a 26yd kick from winning it. That is an old extra point with a delay of game penalty…..

  • BillW

    Every now and then Rosenbloom writes an article that makes a very valid point or at least is worth considering. Today was one of them

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/rosenblog/ct-vontaze-burfict-hit-nfl-rosenbloom-20160111-column.html

    In a nutshell he says that the real concern for CTE is the frequent sub-concussive hits, but the league focuses on the “jacked up” hits and concussion protocol to give the appearance they care about player safety. And that while the Cincy hit yesterday was against today’s rules, he argues that today’s rules are not uniformly applied and make things more arbitrary than stuff like “what’s a catch”.

    Well, I’m projecting a bit on that but that’ what I got out of it.

    The trouble I have is he says the future of football is better with all players signing a waiver and then going back to what it was. My problem with that is the pool of talent will dry up in no time. What parent is going to allow their kid to play a sport in grade school or high school that at its top level requires such a waiver? He compares it to MMA, but you don’t see 32 teams of over 50 men each in MMA.

    I don’t know where I fall on this – I do believe head shots can be eliminated without ruining football. But his point on frequent sub-concussive hits might someday be the next focus. And that can’t be legislated out of the game.

    • That Guy

      Actually MMA is a huge industry. The fight industry just doesn’t allow for as many athletes to get on TV.

      But I agree, the subconcussive hits are the problem. The work that needs to be done is on making those safer – and nobody knows how to do that right now.

      • The GP

        MMA has a huge problem recruiting real athletes to fight for it.

        • willbest

          New sports tend to lack talent. Plus the pay for the top talent is pretty bad.

      • Doc Nitty

        The only way is to remove helmets altogether. Or at least the face mask. If guys didn’t have helmets, they would instinctively not bang heads. There would be a huge increase in superficial facial and skull trauma, but far fewer concussions.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          can’t remove helmets and have guys be this big and fast and strong. People will really start dying then.

          • That Guy

            A friend who coached peewee suggested bringing back the leather style helmets. The things they wear now basically turn players into bullets.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            you wear leather helmets and people will die

          • That Guy

            In fairness, they don’t wear anything in rugby and players aren’t dying (at least no more frequently than in football).

            Its not an easy thing to fix. The skills guys with the violent hits can be mitigated a bit by moving the target below the shoulders (and increasing knee injuries). But linemen, including linebackers, are experiencing low level head trauma multiple times a game and its totally legal.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I hear you but it just simply can’t happen. I’ve never seen a guy in Rugby run a crossing route. I’ve never seen a guy in rugby go up and grab a pass and be slammed down where his head hits the ground. I’ve never seen a guy in rugby drop back to pass and get hit from the blindside and driven into the ground with his head bouncing like a superball. I’ve never seen linemen in Rugby run stunts and have a 1 to 2 yard head start before they collide with the other linemen. That’s subconcussive like a motherfucker and it will never change even if people try to get out of the way. People would die at all levels at highly increased rates.

          • Sactowns#1

            Actually multiple doctors are on record calling for the end to helmets as they encourage players to lead with their heads and make violent contact.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            people would die. Forget the leading with the head angle. Read the rest of the ways you could die…..

            I was playing free safety and a slot wr came over the middle, the pass was high, he caught it, I form tackled him perfectly and slammed him off of the ground like a 5lb sack of potatoes. He was knocked unconscious immediately. The only thing that saved him from being a veggie was that helmet.

          • BillW

            Without a doubt. Football players end up in large piles of large men. Ask them if theyw ant to do that without a helmet? They also fall down hard. They hit their heads on the ground or other places without it being a tackle. I agree – it would be suicide to be a receiver without a helmet. They’d being wheeling them out like in Rollerball.

            Here’s an experiment that could be done with today’s tech. With CGI, “erase” the helmets of all players in about ten plays (runs, passes, kick returns etc).

            Light up all the heads in red every time there is contract. Use some algorithm to estimate the force of that contact and shade the color to match (light red is light contact, dark red is heavy contact)

            I think that would be enough to convince people the head needs protection.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Also years and years of the sports’s culture tends to shape the way people play it. So hence the way that people just simply know how to properly execute certain techniques to ensure that the game can play on. The very minimal serious injury cases of Rugy is probaby the result of that.

            The old hard-hitting culture of the NFL is still seen often because it takes a generation or two of the rest of the sports to learn and “understand” what is needed to be done in the sports when they introduce rules that are implemented swiftly and drastically.

          • Sactowns#1

            This is your response for everything. lol

    • ImportantBearsDefender FTW

      Pretty sure it has always been that way in some places. When I played High School football in Oklahoma growing up (early 1990s), my mom had to sign a form. At the bottom it laid out all the injuries that could occur and even said in the last sentence; ‘your child could die playing football’. That pretty much sums it up.

      • BillW

        Chicago public school children may soon be asked to sign something similar.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          If the schools can even stay open or have ANY teachers

    • willbest

      Its physics. Fdt = mdv

      1. Weight caps on players
      2. fields designed to slow players down
      3. fields designed to increase the stopping distance when a player collides with it.

      • That Guy

        1. Never happen. Monsters sell. But they can reduce the weight of the helmets.
        2. Never happen. Speed sells.
        3. Don’t know about fields, but they may be able to design the helmets differently.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Foam helmets. No more hard shells.

          • Trac

            Design a helmet that changes color when more tan 20 /50 lbs of pressure is applied to it. If a players helmet changes color during the game, he has to be sent to the locker room for concussion examination.

          • AlbertInTucson

            NERF Helmets!

        • willbest

          I didn’t say it was going to happen. I was just pointing out that if you want to reduce head injuries that is the equation you are dealing with.

          I suppose alternatively you could figure out a way to reduce gravity. The NFL needs to build a giant space station and come up with some zero G version of the game.

          • BillW

            Wow – the PSLs will really be expensive then.

        • Johnnywad

          Unless the new helmets go inside the players’ headsl, and prevent the brain from slamming into the inside surface of the skull, nothing will matter.

          It’s not really speed that’s the problem. Hell, some of the worst cases are found in interior linemen. No speed to be found in there. It’s because they experience subconcussive hits on every play. The cumulative effect of those is the problem.

      • BillW

        I had an idea a while ago. Make he equipment heavier to slow them down. I think speed is a bigger factor than weight. I know bat speed is a bigger factor than the weight of the bat in baseball.

  • CanadaBear
    • BillW

      If Boden is to believed, Our tackles are set as is.

      By the way, the comment section there is brutal. The obligatory clown saying they need a QB, plus several posts telling me how I can make 2000 a week from home.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Only $2K…?

        • BillW

          To be specific it was $9342 in a few weeks.

          • AlbertInTucson

            And I bet you only have to
            “…put up $2 or 3 hundred to cash in on this great opportunity!”

          • BillW

            Sounds like a good return to me. But probably less odds than Powerball.

      • CanadaBear

        I thought it was a nice list of guys going into FA for the first time. The defensive list was interesting too. The comments over there are worse than ESPN by a lot. I try to avoid it but once in a while I start reading and it always ends with a face palm.

  • The GP

    I’ve an idea for football. Don’t laugh.

    Pool football. It’s like football – same field dimensions of 100 yards but played in a pool that is uniformly 7′ deep.

    Just think about it.
    http://i.imgur.com/odGK3CA.jpg

    • AlbertInTucson

      In HS Gym class, we once played “Knee Football” in the wrestling room.

      • Trac

        There’s an idea. Midget football! Nobody over 3 feet tall can play. It would be awesome.

        • DaMurph

          MB………..Know anyone that could play safety? I keeeed I keeeed!

  • The GP

    Once upon a time, Jeff had a playoff picking contest. What happened to that?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather is getting tweets from the mentally challenged that include:

    “28 Million for 3 years with $18M guaranteed for Forte”

    and

    “Sign Vontez Burfect.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      That would be “No” and “No”.

      • That Guy

        Jeff’s response was “10 Million for 2 years”

        I think Forte gets a three year deal, rather than two. And I think he’ll do a bit better than $5M per year, but not guaranteed. Maybe 3 years, $18M, with like $10M guaranteed. That basically gives him Jeff’s contract guaranteed if he flames out in 2016. More likely he plays a second year and earns $12M in two years with the team having an option for a third year at the same level.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I can live with that. “28m” must be from his agent.

  • ImportantBearsDefender FTW

    Poor Jon Ryan, I saw that poor guy face plant and immediately thought of:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJa81h1cato

  • BillW

    Jeff just tweeted from Jahns that Loaggains was named OC

    • BillW

      Gotta learn how to spell it. Loggains.

      • AlbertInTucson

        As expected.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Any names floated for a new QB Coach or is there a chance Loggains will wear 2 hats?

    • BillW

      I’ve been searching but can’t find anything. Al, you’ll remember when Greg Landy qb’d for us for a year or two then became qb coach

      I thought it was a nice touch he wore the B hat. As did Johnny Roland (though backwards)

      • BillW

        I wonder if there are any ex qbs getting into coaching at the NFL level

        • Sactowns#1

          You mean like Harbaugh?

          • BillW

            Well I mean around now.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Greg Landry. Blast from the past.

        The Cam Newton of his day.

        He once authored a 76 yard QB draw for a TD. and once ran for 9 TDs in a 14 game season (1972)..

        He started/played exactly game as a Bear.

    • BearDown100393

      Pep

      • SC Dave

        NOOOOOO!!!

  • willbest

    I would like to point out that the Seahawks played Lynch $13.5 million to play this year. Next year they have to decide if they want to pay him $9 million (and take a 11.5 mil cap hit) or cut him and take a $5 mil cap hit.

    That is the situation you get yourself into if you give Forte real money. Do the Bears have cap? Yes. Is that a wise use of it? Hell no.

    • SC Dave

      There is no scenario where Forte gets $9M. Even though he is clearly mire durable than Lynch.

      Of course many of you here dont seem to care about the fact that these guys are human beings. So if they batter themselves into early retirement and a short life, oh well.

      • Johnnywad

        Huh?

      • willbest

        If Forte wasn’t stupid, he should have an investable net worth north of $12 million pulling in over $500k a year for the rest of his life. We aren’t tossing him in a ditch here.

      • Captain Obvious

        I’m with Dave. So it’s “OK” if you get a guy with a smaller cap hit and HE gets injured and doesn’t play much.

        Stop looking at guys like they’re just numbers. Especially when it’s not your money. Forte has earned a lot of money, yes, but if the Bears decide to pay him more and then he gets hurt, it’s not “dumb” of them to have paid him a big contract. It’s “dumb luck” that he got hurt.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Tom Coughlin.

    He has interviewed with Philly and has permission to talk to the 49ers.

    Doesn’t sound like a guy who is ready to ride off into the Florida Sunset.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Why does he need permission? Didn’t he resign from the Giants?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Report I just heard said 49ers had received permission from the Giants to talk him.

        Probably means he’s still under contract even though he “stepped down” as head coach.

        • BillW

          Probably under contract until the league year ends in March

        • Doc Nitty

          Barry Sanders wishes he had such leeway.

      • willbest

        Coughlin has 1 year left on his deal. If the permission thing is going on it means the Giants haven’t fired him yet. Perhaps he has come to some sort of arrangement with them where if they don’t find somebody they like better and he doesn’t find somebody he likes better then he can coach next year.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          That’s such a strange arrangement

          • willbest

            Alright, I have a better explanation (I think). Coughlin is being kept on until he retires or finds another job as a means of maintaining insurance for himself and his family rather than going through the COBRA nonsense.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Fuck Cobras! G.I. Joes baby!

    • Trac

      I knew he wants to coach and it’ll be interesting to see how his interviews pan out. Still, I’ll be surprised if he gets a gig.

    • Doc Nitty

      They have nice sunsets in Sants Clara.

  • BerwynBomber

    Adam Schefter tweeting that Vontaze Burfict has been suspended for the first 3 games of the 2016 season.

    • The GP

      Is that the BURFICT punishment?

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Burfect suspended 3 games in 2016 season

    • Doc Nitty

      I’m sure I’ll get some grief for saying it but, that’s bullshit.

      • Shady

        He’s a repeat offender if that helps.

        • BerwynBomber

          Known cheap-shot artist. Kinda like B. Merriweather, albeit Burfict is a much better player.

      • madscout12

        Exactly. It was a dirty physical game, with lots of big hits. But when the Steelers do it, it is just “hard nosed football”. That game was not out of control starting with Burfect. It started with the hit on Gio from Shazier. Led with the crown of the helmet and hit him in the facemask. No call, which makes it seem that the game was called one way.

  • BerwynBomber

    SB 50 odds for the remaining eight:

    ARI — 3:1
    CAR — 4:1
    NE — 4:1
    DEN — 5:1
    SEA — 6:1
    KC — 10:1
    PITT — 12:1
    GB — 18:1

    • Trac

      Wow, the Cardinals came outta nowhere. Does anybody know who their coach is?

      • The GP

        a witticism!

    • TBC

      I laid down a $10 flyer on the Pack back in May. It was 6/1. 180 minutes to go and they’re 18/1. OOPS

      • BerwynBomber

        Going 4-6 your last 10 with a miracle win will do that. As well as a potentially murderous road to the SB (ARI/CAR or SEA).

        Nice win yesterday, though. At least you avoided the one-and-done label.

      • SC Dave

        Timing is everything.

  • SC Dave

    Go Tigers!

    Fuck Alabama
    Fuck the SEC

    but most of aall

    Fuck Sabin.

  • Shady

    Good Championship game so far, both teams look pretty much on point.

    Alabama has a TON of talent on that D, including guys like Raglund, Reed and Robinson who I wouldn’t mind seeing the Bears draft this spring.

    Clemson CB *Mackensie Alexander and DE Shaw Lawson are couple of guys projected to go in the 1st round as well.

    • BerwynBomber

      I wonder if Watson may translate. His arm is stronger than I thought.

      P.S. spoke too soon.

      • DaBearsBlog

        He definitely translates. But hopefully somebody gives him 3 years on the bench.

        • SC Dave

          This. Too many of these kids are thrown to the lions too soon.

          • Cubsnlinux

            pun intended? 🙂

      • SC Dave

        Looks damn good to me.

    • Shady

      And Alexander goes out with a hamstring.

  • Shady

    Jake Coker, 6’5″ 232, redshirt senior projected to go round 4-5:

    STRENGTHS: Looks the part of an NFL quarterback with a tall, broad-shouldered frame and a strong arm. Has a fluid over-the-top delivery and creates good velocity with his throws with a snappy follow-through.

    Generally steps into his passes, but possesses enough arm strength to deliver them when defenders around him limit room space. At least average deep ball passer, typically throwing too far when missing his target. Takes something off and throws with touch with necessary, often giving his playmakers opportunity to make plays on 50-50 balls.

    Above average athlete for a quarterback of his size, showing some lateral agility, balance and vision to weave through traffic to buy time in the pocket or when scrambling. Good decision-maker. Rarely throws the ball into double-coverage, showing good awareness (given his relative lack of game experience) of check-down options. Experienced in a pro-style offense, competing against elite talent.

    WEAKNESSES: Has a good, but not great arm and the velocity is somewhat mitigated by an elongated throwing motion with a wind-up. Wasn’t often asked to throw with a great deal of anticipation in Alabama’s offense, typically reading defenses at the line of scrimmage and staring down his primary receiver until he became open.

    Statistics and success greatly influenced by elite skill-position talent around him, which often broke tackles to generate extra yardage and scores. Only average only ball placement, often forcing receivers to adjust to his passes.

    IN OUR VIEW: With just one year of starting duty under his belt (and on a team full of superstars, at that), Coker is a bit of a gamble but the physical traits are there to develop. He will have to show significant improvement in his accuracy overall to develop into a starter in the NFL, but his size and experience in a pro-style offense could earn him a realistic shot at making a roster.

    –Dane Brugler (1/11/15)

  • BearDown100393

    Running for your life is not wizardry.

    • SC Dave

      It is for Russell Wilson. Go figure.

      • BearDown100393

        Wilson has a Super Bowl. Clemson QB ain’t Wilson.

        • TBC

          …”bro”

  • Cubsnlinux

    NFL=>College Football
    Day =>Night

  • Cubsnlinux

    Overhyped shit pile of a game.
    $$$$$$$$$$$$$

    • BearDown100393

      Is it the basketball final already?

  • Shady

    Uh oh, it’s the walking wounded for the Tigers, their best guys are dropping like flies.

  • SC Dave

    Tough season for kickers

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      cut them all!

  • Shady

    Really hoping Clemson can hold off Derek Henry and the tide in the 2nd half, if not as least keep it within 6.5 points. Thaaaanks.

  • BearDown100393

    “This is amazing”
    I don’t watch much college football. Is this really amazing? Neither QB distinguishing.

  • BearDown100393

    Deshaun Johnson is a ranked NFL prospect? Can this quarterback throw from the pocket? Is this all he is capable?

    • Cubsnlinux

      Who is Deshaun Johnson?

  • madscout12

    Ah, truck commercials. “Military Grade Aluminium Alloy”. Translation…bullshit to get you to buy our truck. There’s no such thing as “Military Grade Aluminium Alloy”.

    • BearDown100393

      The VA put that in Cousin Eddie’s head.

    • AlbertInTucson

      A commercial that isn’t true? Go figure.

  • BerwynBomber

    Another HC chasing points too soon.

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