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Pace Wisely Using Draft to Invest in Offense

| May 11th, 2016

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With just two drafts under his belt, Ryan Pace is doing something neither of his predecessors did. He is using the draft to build an offense and support the quarterback.

One of the first things I wrote for DBB came at a time when we didn’t know if Jay Cutler was going to be the quarterback. It was clear the Bears had failed to provide the quarterback with necessary weapons and I argued Pace needed to do better.

Through two drafts, he has.

In three years with the Bears, Phil Emery drafted seven offensive players, four of which were in the first four rounds. From the year before he made the trade to acquire Cutler until he was fired, Jerry Angelo drafted 12 offensive players, five of which were picked in the first four rounds, three of which were in 2008.

In two years, Pace has already equalled Emery’s total in terms of total offensive players drafted and offensive players in the first four rounds. That’s just one fewer than Angelo managed to pull the trigger on in four years. You could argue Emery’s total should be higher since he spent two third round picks for Brandon Marshall, but one of those picks was acquired from Angelo trading Greg Olsen. The net for both of them is one third rounder, which still puts them both well behind Pace’s current pace.

In all, the Bears have drafted 26 offensive players since 2008, that’s 13 fewer than Baltimore, 9 fewer than Green bay and 6 fewer than New England. All three of those teams have also taken at least 16 offensive players within the first four rounds. Seattle has taken 24 offensive players since drafting Russell Wilson in 2012.

Part of the problem was total number of draft picks, but they all had control of the number of picks they had. Angelo traded picks for Cutler, but also got one back — which he used for Johnny Knox. He also sent a second rounder to Tampa Bay for Gaines Adams, who was just a flat out bad player.

Both Pace and Emery also whiffed on too many picks. Angelo used the 14th pick on Chris Williams in 2008 and took Earl Bennett 70th later in that draft. The next year, he spent a third rounder on Juaquin F-Ing Iglesias before nabbing Gabe Carimi with his final first round pick in 2011. The only offensive player Angelo drafted from 2008-11 who you could say exceeded expectations was Matt Forte.

Emery had two big hits with Alshon jeffery and Kyle Long, but the Bears never got anything from Evan Rodriguez, barely anything from Ka’Deem Carey and minor production from Marquess Wilson.

Hey, the draft is a crapshoot. Ted Thompson took Brian Brohm in the second round. GMs are going to miss, but the good ones know the importance of investing a plethora of assets in guys who help their quarterback. Neither Emery nor Angelo even tried to do that.

Emery and, to a lesser extent Angelo, tried to supplement their lack of activity in the draft with free agents, which, ultimately, proved to be a story on why teams should build through the draft. Angelo had big flops in Orlando Pace, Chester Taylor and Brandon Howeverthehellyouspellhislastname. Emery acquired Marshall, Jermon Bushrod and Martellus Bennett, none of whom are with the team anymore. (Matt Slauson was a late signing who exceeded expectations.) Give him credit, but most of that credit should go to Slauson for busting his ass and getting better.

Angelo had the team close, but ignoring the offense ultimately cost him. When Cutler went down, they couldn’t do anything. Emery’s method worked for one year. Well, sort of. They had the second best scoring offense in the league but he and Angelo allowed the defense to age to the point where they couldn’t stop a nosebleed. Pace has managed to retool the offense, while completely overhauling the defense.

It’s far too early to say what Pace’s hit total will be. Jeremy Langford showed promise as a rookie and the consensus thought is that Kevin White is too talented to not be good. Solely because of the sheer number of players he has drafted in two years, he has set himself up so he doesn’t need all of them to be good. If he hits on 50 percent of his guys — either White or Braverman, either Whitehair or Grasu and either Langford or Howard — he’ll be sitting fine.

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  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    What’s strange about reading an Andrew piece is to watch him assert something, then – in the body of the article – walk that assertion back.

    With just two drafts under his belt, Ryan Pace is doing something neither of his predecessors did. He is using the draft to build an offense and support the quarterback.

    He then goes on to say that Pace is really drafting both sides of the ball, because the whole team needs a talent upgrade and that his predecessors ALSO drafted both sides of the ball but were not very good at it. Other people whiff in the draft but we stunk at it.

    Pace drafted a guard and a running back this draft. Everything else, including the 1st rounder, was on D. Two picks were on O. Free agency was largely not about O, they tried to get CJ Anderson and failed. He’s not using the draft to build the O, he took two guys. He’s tilting the playing field to Fangio, who is his best coach. He’s trying to bring back some monster to the Midway. And that’s the textbook rebuild formula. The Saints that he was at started by fixing the D, and then got Brees going. Same playbook.

    • willbest

      We also drafted a prospect slot receiver in the 7th

      • MB30SD

        The new jewish edelman!!!!

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          He gets to Shvitz while you drink your Schlitz!

          • MB30SD

            I’m spritzing just thinking about it

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        You mean the Greatest 7th round slot in the history of the game.

        • willbest

          PSH

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      That’s what happens when you come up with a premise and then try to force the facts to match.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        I was gonna quip “That’s what she said!” but then I seriously don’t recall a woman ever using the word “premise” in my entire life (outside of referring to a movie).

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      Yep, pretty D-heavy draft this year. But still spent a high pick on OL and grabbed 2 skill players.

      Last year was O-heavy, as 4/6 picks went offense (including 3 of the top 4).

      Emery’s drafts were very D-heavy. He spent 11 picks on D and only 8 on O. And that difference came in the early rounds, not the late. 2/3 1sts on D. 2/3 2nds on D. 2/2 3rds on D.

      So in the 1st 3 rounds, Emery spent 6/8 picks on defense. And whiffed on 5 of them (Shea, Bostic, Ferguson, Sutton, and Hardin). The only one who turned into a solid starter was Fuller. But that’s a separate issue.

      2 picks in the first 3 rounds over a 3-year span is not enough for an entire side of the ball, but that’s exactly what Emery did. He basically ignored offense in the draft, and tried instead to fix it in FA. Which worked for all of 1 year.

      As for Angelo, he had 3 drafts after trading for Cutler. In those 3 drafts, he had 6 picks in the top 3 rounds. 4 went defense, 2 offense. Not really enough to say that’s imbalanced one way or another, just a small sample size. If you expand to 4 rounds, that shifts to 9 picks, 7 defense and 2 offense. Pretty obvious imbalance there (though you can argue that they spent 3 high picks from that span to get Cutler).

      So Andrew is 100% justified in saying the previous 2 regimes did not spend enough draft capital acquiring top young offensive talent. From 2009 to 2014 they drafted a grand total of 4 offensive players in the first 3 rounds. That’s insane.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        I think it depends on how a person weighs draft picks.

        If a GM drafts defense in the first two rounds, but offense other rounds, is that “Defense-centric”?

        I guess we can go strictly by the chart and see how many “points” went to offense and how many went to defense under the Angelo, Emery and Pox regime (we’d have to convert it into % though).

        I don’t think I ever even heard of anyone trying that.

        Sounds like a Data article!

        If we go by that, giving up all those draft picks for Cutty might actually make Anglelo offense oriented.

      • willbest

        Only if bodies is your metric. Both Emery’s O picks in the top 3 rounds were home runs, which is far more valuable than finding a couple starters and some bodies for a few years.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          You never know how guys will pan out. So the only real way to measure investment is through bodies drafted/where they were drafted.

  • willbest

    Emery’s offensive FAs were great additions. I don’t know why the mark of their success is Pace didn’t keep them. Bushrod aged out but the rest would still be here if emery had hired arians

    • willbest

      Another thing, Pace has done jack all in FA from a adding quality players to the offense. On the defense he has used FA extensively. He needs to spend those high draft picks on offensive talent or he would be ignoring that side of the ball completely.

      • Scharfinator

        Maybe that is all according to plan?

        Hard to say what he’s thinking…

        • willbest

          I am not faulting Pace’s plan. I am saying he has yet to demonstrate he can hold Emery’s jockstrap when it comes to building an offensive roster. I noticed AD didn’t talk at all about our starting LT, an Emery acquisition. Because it doesn’t fit his narrative that Pace is some sort of genius.

          If you want to rail on Emery. 1) coach selection. 2) Defensive drafting.

          • CanadaBear

            I think you can safely say he was a gigantic nerd with zero people skills.

          • willbest

            Sure but the guy put together an amazing offensive roster in 2 years

            Bushrod, Slauson, Long, Mills, Jeffery, Marshall, Bennett. To go along with Cutler and Forte. If only he had picked the right coach, and had any idea how to draft defensive players.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s always something! He took chances on a couple of loose cannons. It worked for a couple of years and then not so much.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            He overpaid for a couple of those guys.

          • willbest

            Only Bushrod and Bush. Bushrod wasn’t even an excessive overpay considering starting LTs don’t tend to come around that often and he preformed adequately. Bush was a waste money but it was his only bad offensive FA move. Perhaps not retaining Hester but they weren’t going to pay him what Atlanta paid him.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            And we have to put things into context.

            No way we could’ve went into another season with Webb.

            Teams almost always overpay in FA. That’s the nature of it.

            But to me, I don’t think we overpaid.

            Can you overpay for finally dumping Webb and starting a competent LT?

            Not sure.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I would argue we overpaid for Marshall also. kicked out of Denver for being batshit crazy. Same with Miami. So we decide to give 2 3rds for a guy that was on his way out and had at the time a recent run in with the police, and a rap sheet as long as my arm.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            For a guy that went for over 100 catches a year in his first two seasons with us, and over 1500 yards receiving his first year on the team?
            No, we did not overpay for Marshall.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            with the situation he was in, we could have gotten him cheaper.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Like a can of Pringles? C’mon mannnn.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            maybe not that low but throw in a bag of Funyuns and would have done it.

          • Sactowns#1

            Seriously. I think boredom has set in and now our own guys are trolling each other. “Kyle Long should be waived!”

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i think we could get a conditional 7th for him.

          • Sactowns#1

            Ok, that statement is just plain crazy. You’re talking about a WR who can single handedly improve an offense. Look at what he did for the Bears. Look what he’s done for the Jets and those QB’s. Oh man, you mean we could have gotten a John Jenkins and Dallas Thomas? You win the “c’mon man” award for the day.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I am not saying that it still wasn’t a good deal considering the production we got out of him. I am saying I think we could have gotten him cheaper. The dude had burnt 2 bridges already, and a long history of Domestic Violence and had a run in with the law just prior to the trade. Teams were wary of him because of his history and Miami was ready to cut ties with him.

      • MB30SD

        Yeah, if the d takes a big step this year, I think we’ll see much more balanced talent acquisition next year forward.

        D needed extra (extra extra) love this year.

  • The Yes Guy

    Yes

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Knox was a fifth rounder who:
    1) was second in the NFL in KR yardage in his rookie year
    2) made the Pro Bowl his rookie year
    3) led the Bears in receiving his 2nd and 3rd years.
    Angelo sucked donkey balls, but how you can say he didn’t exceed expectations with that pick, I do not know.

    • MB30SD

      Agree with the last point.

      Have you watched that hit again. It’s still cringe-worthy

      • DaMurph

        You see that hit and wonder how he ever walked again.

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          That hit caused ESPN to stop airing the “jacked up” segment.

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      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        No, but it gives me flashbacks to getting run over by a 6’5″ 250 lb beast when I was playing pickup basketball. Felt my lower back pop like a rubber band, and I doubt the flexion in my back was even half of what happened to Knox.
        Dude has to be a tough little bastard to be up and walking now.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Ugh, I just watched it again.
        Gross.

        • MB30SD

          Scary maings.

          PS4??????

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Not yet – crazy week. I’m shopping for it though.

          • MB30SD

            nice.

            I’ll be back home for 2 weeks anyway. I expect you to be all spooled up by the time I get back, otherwise it’s going to be a slaughter. Shady and I are just about even these days.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Pass. I don’t ever want to see that clip again.

    • willbest

      Knox would have been amazing with BMarsh, even with the crappy 2012 O-line.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I liked Knox BUT do you not remember the receiving corp we had when he was playing? Knox would have been a 3rd/4th receiver on almost all teams in the league. The only reason you can say Angelo exceeded expectations with the pick was because he SUCKED with all his other moves.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He was a pretty shit receiver who left Cutty out to dry on many an occasion.

        (cue Brandon Rideau / Shabba cracks)

        Nothing has changed. He was a fast, shit receiver that didn’t know his playbook.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          You’re nuts.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        A third, perhaps…a fourth? No way. A burner like him, you find a way to get him out there and stretch the field. You would be hard pressed to find many rosters that wouldn’t have found a top 3 WR spot for him. You can’t say Knox didn’t exceed expectations with that resume when a dude like Joaquin was a third rounder and blew rabid goats. Knox performed in spite of the shit receivers around him.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          haha, now we have KEVIN WHITE. Top WR pick in the entire 2015 draft next to Cooper. Some viewed him as even better.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            What intrigues me is that the knock on him coming was lack of polish, as opposed to Cooper…but he’s now had a full season to work on that, which is a luxury most first-year receivers don’t have. I fully expect him to make a major impact out of the gates – but I’ll also say, he’s not our #1 until he gets on the field and proves it (Irish.).

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            yeah, I guess right now he’s as good of a WR as Derrick Henry is.

          • MB30SD

            never!!!

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Just the SHINIEST TURD, someone had to make some plays. Best year only had 51 catches.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            2010?
            When Olsen, Forte, Bennett, Hester and Knox all had 40+ catches?
            When we went to the NFC Championship game?
            Those 51 catches were at a 18.8 yards per catch rate. And 2011, before he got bent in half, he was going off at over 19+ yards per catch on similar volume.
            Saying he was a turd is fucking ridiculous.
            Those yards per catch numbers are insane; not everyone is a high-volume, low yards per catch possession receiver.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            2011, by the way, is when we got to endure Caleb Hanie once Cutty broke his thumb. An offense that had been averaging 32.2 pts per game the prior five weeks, went into the toilet and was averaging 9 pts per game until the Seattle game where Knox got injured.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I did say he was the shiniest.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Haha, yes, yes you did.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      He was fast, but he was not a good receiver. 4th option on a good team. he had no business catching that ball or running that route that got him hurt. He should be running nothing but go routes. We did that dude wrong. Him and his giant eyebrows

  • CanadaBear

    Angelo inherited a great LB and then hit on another great LB and CB. He also hit on a great return man. Lovie could coach the D and the ST’s were truly special. The O totally sucked. The D got old, Emery hit on two offensive picks, hired a smarmy wimp for a HC and the whole thing blew up.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • CanadaBear

      Another one of those mysterious penalties (as in BS) caused this one to come back. Fuckers!

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Not sure we would’ve won that game, even with a TD there, but would’ve made for one helluva final 50 seconds.

        • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

          down by a score with an onside kick coming up. couldn’t have asked for anything more.

          edit: could’ve asked to be up by 35 points before that punt.

      • MB30SD

        Fucking packer dick suckers. Pissed me off man

        • CanadaBear

          I know I’m biased as hell but when Fudgie fans start crying about the refs or media coverage I just roll my eyes. With the possible exception of the Pats, no team gets more favorable calls or media coverage in the NFL.

          • MB30SD

            exactly. Makes me sick.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    “Both Pace and Emery also whiffed on too many picks. ”
    Errrrrr….

    • Scharfinator

      AD whiffed on his proper nouns! BAZINGA!

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    This summer AB will renaming Budweiser to simply “America”.

    http://images.techtimes.com/data/images/full/241625/budweiser-america.jpg

    This is not a joke. This is happening. Said the Dutch South African owners, “Vee vere going to zname it, ‘America Fuck Yeah’ – but vee couldn’t fit za cursive viting on dere. Vee vant za joey six pack to have dis beer all da times.'”

    • willbest

      I am still not going to drink it.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Ahhh… stocking your fridge with Zima then?

        • MB30SD

          There I was, there I was, there I was….

        • willbest

          I don’t keep beer in stock unless I am hosting something. Scotch is on the dry bar though.

          • Sactowns#1

            Blasphemy. I drink two things, beer and water. Water prior to 6pm, beer from there forward. I would die of thirst at your house!

          • willbest

            There are other parts of the house with water service. The garden hose for example.

          • Sactowns#1

            Yeah Will but what the hell am I going to drink from 6pm-6am?!

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          That was my line in college. Belly up to the bar…
          Waffle (to the young lady to his left) : Would you think of me as less of a man if drank Zima?
          Girl: Probably
          Waffle: What if I bonged it?

          Sex…later that night. Sex.

      • SC Dave

        Give them time.. Goose Island has already declined in quality since AB bought them

    • CanadaBear

      It will always be Butt Wiper to me.

    • MB30SD

      Hahaha… nice accent. Close, kind of.

      You guys would laugh if you heard a heavy afrikaans accent. You get a little taste in district 9.

      Van der merwe is a joke name in SA meaning a super shit kicker boer. Like calling someone billyjoebob here.

      …speaking of, I’ll be in the bush in Zimbabwe then cape Town end of this week till end of month, if I don’t comment I’m not dead… well actually i might be. Just in case, loves you guys. Maybe I’ll post some pics of elephant vagina

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        I was going to make a comment/joke about bush/vagina association, but too lazy to come up with something good.

        • MB30SD

          Yeah, too easy for you anyway. Let the big softballs go, you’re a ballplayer.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        African strange. Purple vag.
        Go full National Geographic on it!

        • MB30SD

          nah, dangerous down there. I have a little afrikaans girl who I ‘hang out with’ down there. She’s got a great voluptuous little body with very real looking/feeling fack DDs and hips and a little butt.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            Sunday morning when we go down to church
            See the menfolk standin’ in line
            I said they come to pray to the Lord
            With my little girl, looks so fine
            In the evening when the sun is sinkin’ low
            Everybody’s with the one they love
            I walk the town, Keep a-searchin’ all around
            Lookin’ for my street corner girl

            I got a woman, wanna ball all day
            I got a woman, she won’t be true, no no
            I got a woman, stay drunk all the time
            I said I got a little woman and she won’t be true

            In the bars, with the men who play guitars
            Singin’, drinkin’ and rememberin’ the times
            My little lover does a midnight shift
            She followed around all the time
            I guess there’s just one thing a-left for me to do
            Gonna pack my bags and move on my way
            Cause I got a worried mind
            Sharin’ what I thought was mine
            Gonna leave her where the guitars play

            I got a woman, she won’t be true, no no
            I got a woman, wanna ball all day
            I got a woman, stay drunk all the time
            I got a little woman and she won’t be true

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)
      • Bender McLugh

        Afrikaaaaaaans, the beginning scene is a good example, ah?

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcXNPI-IPPM

        • Sactowns#1

          That is some of the worst music I’ve ever heard. My Dr will be sending you a bill for my bleeding eardrums.

          • Bender McLugh

            Haha come on don’t be old

        • MB30SD

          hahahahahahaha… DIE ANTWOORD! Hilarious, that is SUCH a perfect depiction on them you can’t even imagine. Seriously.

          SPOT. ON.

          (btw, they were actually really good in Chappie)

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    Oh god, I wake up and all this talk about Angelo and Emery!

    It’s like reliving the trauma of getting train-raped in a Mongolian prison.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      ‘Mongolian Train Rape’ is a 8th level spell for Sorcerers in the new 6th Edition D&D Rules.

      One of those Mongolian BBQ wheels pops into existence and your target is placed on it stuck in a bent over position. I won’t describe what happens next.

      • MB30SD

        and the name of my new garage folk/newgrass/punk/speedmetal band

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          it’s all fun and games until the lawyers from Spirit sue you for copyright.

          • MB30SD

            fuckers

      • willbest

        They are up to six editions of D&D? How do fans of the game even allow that to happen?

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    Here’s what I really want to know.

    Is Jeff going to buy a Whitehair jersey? (Aslo, do you get discount buying jerseys in Jersey?)

    He can customize it too.

    On the back instead of his name, he can print, “I Told U So”

    And instead of a #, a middle-finger.

    • MB30SD

      no

    • Scharfinator

      No one will know what he is talking about if he takes off the number AND name.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        The front still has the #

        But Jeff could take the #s off entirely.

        Then, if Whitehair bombs, he can apply it to X-future punter.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Do we have him in the pro bowl already? Let’s see if he starts first.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Just watched some 2015-2016 highlights. This is going to be a good year. The tide is turning. Teams will know when they’ve played the Bears. Wait until young Kevin White takes his first slant to the house. It will be then that you know teams have to watch over the top and that is when Alshon will take over with 1 on 1’s. If you can’t bracket Alshon because of White then Alshon will emerge. If you bracket Alshon you then run White into the areas vacated by the bracket coverage and burn them that way.
    Sometimes you’ll just put Urine in the backfield with Langford and ram it in prison style.

    I think it’s hard to visualize but we do have a consensus top WR draft pick in all of college football on our team and he’s about to make his debut. It feels weird but there is a solid chance that this kid is going to be a fucking weapon.

    • Bender McLugh

      “Ram it with Urine.” Nice.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Mongolian prison style.

    • CanadaBear

      Gotta keep in mind the Bears lost Gase, Forte and Black Uni. Is Loggains a good replacement for Gase? Who knows? Langford isn’t replacing Forte and any TE not named Miller isn’t going to replace the Black Uni. Pretty sure it will take a little while for the OL to gel. The front 7 on D is a massive upgrade from last year but the back 4 is the same with addition of some late rd draftees. Lots of ifs and moving parts. 8-8.

      • Scharfinator

        I think this is the *biggest* question we aren’t talking about. Offensive players or not, if our OC stinks it up, we’re going to have a bad time. Will Jay regress without Gase talking him into non-suicidal throws?

        • CanadaBear

          I do think Jay turned a corner last year in regards to ball security. Really hope there is no regression there. I thought Gase did a really good job calling plays considering our WR’s. Hopefully Loggains can do the same. Forte was definitely a security blanket for Jay. It will be interesting to see if Langford can do the same. Everyone seems to think White is going to be a star. I hope he will be but I never think that until they show something.

          • Irish Sweetness
          • CanadaBear

            Do you want me to link the half dozen drops?

          • SC Dave

            On the corner for Jay, I hope so, but need proof.

            Langford will be a step down from Forte, but hopefully the improved line and wide out threats will more than net out the decline. The real test will be, for me, Langford’s durability.

            Well, and not fumbling too much. Matt was insanely good keeping possession of the ball.

          • CanadaBear

            I did think Forte lost a little bit last year but was still very good. I hope a few of us are wrong and Langford (or a combo) really does replace Forte’s production.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          Loggains is by far my biggest worry.

          Actually, my biggest worry is Cutty reverting back to Bortlesque form (for which no doubt Loggains will get blamed for)

          But obviously they’re both interrelated.

          I trust Fangio and to a lesser extent, Fox.

          But a new OC coupled with a historically turnover prone QB has me crossing my fingers.

          And that’s not even accounting for an unproven oline and HB; if one were to be skeptical, a Rosengloomer, disaster is yonder over the horizon…

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            you keep on saying Bortles-esque which is weird because you’re referring to Cutler’s 66% completion 28TD 18 INT year compared to Bortles 58% completion 11 TD-17 INT year.
            The same year that had Brees, Rivers, Luck, Cutler and Manning all clumped closely together in INT’s with the difference being all of those guys fucking scored points and threw TD’s and Bortles DID NOT.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Nevermind that Bortles was a rookie!

            I get that the team imploded, but Cutty has ALWAYS turned the ball over a lot (unlike some other QBs you mentioned).

            Last year was his outlier.

            Eli is a TO machine too, except in the playoffs when he seems to make superhuman throws in clutch situations.

            So far, all we know of Cutty is that he can ride the shit out of a bicycle in the playoffs.

            I’m not as high on Luck as some others.

            I essentially think he’s a Cutty part two.

            Everyone just assumes he’s that transcendental QB (like ppl once assumed of Cutty), but I’m not really buying it.

            He’s a TO machine. He’s like a bigger Cutty, IMO.

            The Colts should really look at Gase worked with Cutty and emulate it.

            I’m hoping Cutler can continue his progression and that he doesn’t regress under Loggain.

            Maybe Irish’s magical “Elway decade” kicked in.

            But, like I said. when it came to turnovers, last year was an outlier for Cutty, not the norm.

      • Sactowns#1

        Gase didn’t exactly have a creative or highly effective offense. I think this season the playbook gets opened up a bit more.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          Given Cutler’s INT history, that’s not necessarily something we should be hoping for.

          I think Cutty’s best when he’s reeled in and takes his shots only when he absolutely has to.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You read my mind

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            yeah and he quit in the NFC Championship game.

        • willbest

          We are going to find out this year if that was Gase or Fox

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            probably more personnel than anything that dictated what could be done last year.

          • Sactowns#1

            That was my feeling. With no Alshon, no Kevin White, no Forte, a rotating cast of characters on the Oline, you really couldn’t execute the great let alone the spectacular.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Did we lose Uni? He was sitting on the bench last year, so he wan’t even relevant. Did Forte take it to the house on screens, the way he used to? That was Langford last season. I didn’t like Gase’ playcalling. If we stay healthy, we’ll be okay. Don’t like our receiver depth though. Still, they’ve got another year to fix all that.

        Disagree about the back 4 being the same. They’re more experienced – we had two rookie safeties. They’ll look better with a better front 7 in front of them. We have a shot at winning the division if we stay healthy. We beat the Packers last year and I haven’t seen them get better.

        • CanadaBear

          We both see what we want to see. Langford took one screen to the house. It was one play. A spectacular play but still one play. His rushing Y/A totally sucked. Bennett started 11 games and went down with broken ribs so yeah he was on the bench all year. Gase’s play calling was limited due to the top 4 WR’s being hurt or hadn’t you noticed.

          • SC Dave

            Exactly. One fucking play. Shit, Miller looked just as fast.

        • SC Dave

          Langford had one fucking play

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Spice Adams – love this guy.

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  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    On a non-bears note, I’m very curious how the Titans are going to do. I like the philo they’re trying to implement.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/11/titans-defense-likes-the-thunder-and-thunder-approach-on-offense/

    There’s a lot of young teams that are very intriguing. The other teams that I will watch are the Jags (that D doh!) Raiders and Rams.

    What non-Bears team you gonna watch this season?

    • willbest

      Well what is on broadcast since I don’t have cable, but Jags and Raiders should make division crown pushes. Fins to see what might have been if we went with Gase over Fox. Actually the AFCE generally to see the ex-Bears. CD’s last stand, Does Forte still have it. Bennetts ring chase

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I agree with you on being interested in the Jags/Raiders…but I doubt I’ll go out of my way to watch them.

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          Fuck the Jags

        • willbest

          Well without Sunday ticket its whatever CBS/Fox want to feed me, sort of just listing my preferences. I only watch 2 of the games on Sunday usually. Although I did do one of those 14 hours of football days with the 9am London game just to see if I had it in me to piss away that much time.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Reddit
            Live stream

            #didn’tHearitFromE

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      I love how having a capable O line and a running back so you don’t drop back 50 times a game is now a philosophy. I thought it was called football. The 50 time dropback shit is the mindset that doesn’t fit but somehow became the litmus test for QBs….

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        It’s all cyclical.
        Personally, I don’t like the WCO.

        Maybe I’m a meathead, but I agree with Ditka on that.

        However, none of us were complaining in Dr. Death’s first year.

        I don’t really like WCO, but I guess it can be effective with the right type of QB.

        • Cutty Badger

          That’s because Bennett balled out in year 1. Alshon and Marshall were healthy the whole year and dominated.
          Once Trestman lost the team and our entire WR corps got hurt in the first game it all went downhill. That’s when Marshall’s descent into madness began.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Marshall’s descent into madness began a long time ago, it was just on hiatus for a little awhile, it just began moving again.

        • Cutty Badger

          I just don’t think it’s cyclical. Strong D, solid specials and an O that can score on the ground has always been the model.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Well, what I mean by cyclical is that defenses and offenses sorta dance.

            So, the Bears bust out the 46 D. Blitz like crazy. essentially, 8 guys in the box.

            Obvious results. Can’t run. Then, can’t pass.

            WCO counters that. Can’t run with 8 in the box. But can complete 3 yard slant vs man CBs and 1 high Safety.

            So then, Ds adjust to WCO. Pull back S, less blitzes.

            Offenses then ground-and-pound.

            It’s a bit simplistic summary, but that’s sorta the ebb and flow of the NFL.

            The new wrinkle is the read-option or Cam-esque QB, which is making teams draft more S/ILB hybrids.

            Of course, this will be countered too with a passing attack targeting that hybrid who can’t cover.

            Just the way it goes.

          • Irish Sweetness

            A defensive system that attacks the 3 yard slant is what’s up. Necessary to beat the pass rush, but lethally dangerous if the D can handle it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I agree. The “this is a passing league” thing is bullshit. Good defense and running the ball. If you can pass off the back of that, well and good.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Definitely the Jags. That’s a lot of pieces they’ve put in place there, and they were already getting better last season. The Titans, to see how they do with their picks, and Henry most of all.

      • That Guy

        The Jags are a fun team to watch,

        Kind of like the Cardinals were fun to watch a couple years ago, though I don’t know that the turnaround will be that dramatic

    • Sactowns#1

      I plan to lay some money down on the Raiders and Jets this year. I think they’ll both surprise some folks.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m not sure the Raiders will be a surprise. Hope ya make some dough.

    • SC Dave

      Panthers*, and yes, Titans.

      * Luke is just too fun to watch

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Mark Cuban’s wig is beginning to disturb me.

    https://media.licdn.com/mpr/mpr/jc/AAEAAQAAAAAAAAf2AAAAJDkxODZmY2VhLWEyZTAtNGQ2ZC05YTNkLWY1ZDQzOTU0MTcyOQ.jpg

    What is that thing called, the Horror-witz?

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      I thought he had a good surgeon in the beginning after going from the kind of awkward front slanted comb over that is still acceptable aka the Tom Brady to a still thinner but more normal hairline…now it’s getting super thick upfront and coming lower like Seagal’s ponytail wig.

    • Irish Sweetness
  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    The NFL is realizing that there are very few QB’s that are as prolific AND likely to NOT throw INT’s as Brady and Rodgers. Every other team that has tried to install or maintain a high octane, pass happy offense has not had consistent success. Even GB’s Super Bowl run was hard to believe with virtually every player on the roster playing balls out all at the same time. Some say that the Patriots pass game is just an extension of their run game like Denvers in 2013/2014.
    The teams that can win the wars in the trenches both on O and D will be the ones that experience consistent success. Those are the teams that don’t need 5 #1 WR’s like GB did when they won the super bowl or a D like Denvers when they won theirs. Those types of personnel groupings are rare.
    That is exactly why the Bears will show marked improvement this year.
    They upgraded the line at RT and RG.
    They brought in vet depth on the OL.
    They drafted the best OG in the draft based on professional opinion.
    They drafted a bruiser RB to complement the guy that can take a screen 80yds to the house
    They re-signed one of the most effective short yardage blocking FB’s I’ve ever seen wear a Bears uni
    They introduce the top 1 or 2 consensus WR in the entire country in 2015 to the starting lineup.
    To say they upgraded ILB would be a laughable understatement
    They brought in serious man meat in Akiem Hicks on the DL to pair up with Goldman
    They drafted one of the top rated run stopper DL in college game in Bullard.
    They drafted a sick athlete that won’t be asked to play middle linebacker, just rush and be fast in Floyd
    This will be enough to win more games. Just how many depends on health, a little luck, some injuries to other teams key guys, the offense picking up where they left off and the D stopping the run and limiting the raping in the pass game.
    Loggains, Fox and Cutler will review what worked in 2015 and how they achieved less turnovers. They will augment the gameplan with those types of plays but this time with much more firepower on the line and in the WR corps. They will see the short yardage success with the split backs, the use of Urine, hell even Mariani underneath (hopefully Royal). They will see the dumb fucking risks with the WR screens and I think you’ll see some early fake screens and then taking shots down the field.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Can you put $ down for a bootleg hand-off to White for a TD?

      I wonder how Vegas would handicap that.

      Also, part of the problem is that some QBs look like they CAN be Rodgers, Brady, Brees.

      Cutty fell into that box.

      all the physical tools they had (and then some), so everyone expected him to perform on that level.

      He’s just not THAT guy.

      He’s more on the Jake Plummer lvl (ironic). A guy who can win with a supporting cast, not a transcendental lock HOFer.

      I think the NFL, and more importantly the Bears, now realize this, and have correctly limited him for like 3 quarters, and if behind, they unleash him a bit.

      But I do agree with your overall optimism.

      -Ground-and-Pound
      -Hurt QB
      -Make FGs
      -Don’t turn it over.

      MmmBearrsss

      it’s not rocket science.

      • Cutty Badger

        lol, Jake Plummer, sorry, no fucking way. as of right now at the 10yr mark Cutty’s got 5% of Comp% on him, 2,200yds, 43 TD’s and 20 less INT’s and 12 points in QB Rating. That is simply different not the same at all.
        Nearly EVERYONE in the top half of the league in QB is a guy who can win with a supporting cast and very few guys are transcendental lock HOFer’s even the fucking guys in the hall of fame!!! Guys like Bradshaw and Namath are the very definitions of guys that won with supporting casts, except some guys have/had TRANSCENDENTAL supporting casts.

        It’s fucking football. ARGGGGHHHHHHHHH.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          It’s a different era. Plummer played in a run oriented system, so naturally his passing stats are not going to compare (though they’re ints per season seem about the same).

          But I think as a PLAYER, they’re comparable.

          A QB who can win with both his arm and legs, can make some plays in the clutch, but def needs to have a strong supporting cast.

          A notch below the Bradys but above the Daltons

          Boomer Esiason is another in that tier IMO.

          I don’t even consider Bradshaw or Namath.

          Cutty is obviously better than both. Namath had ONE game, and Bradshaw was surrounded by like 6 HOfers.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Air McNair?

    • SC Dave

      Not sold on the Langford worship. One play so far.

      But really, I hope y’all are right

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    Is it me, or can Nigerians ball?

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/05/11/saints-fourth-rounder-chosen-in-fourth-round-of-cfl-draft-too/#comments

    If the NFL really wants to expend their brand internationally, maybe instead of 1 game per year in England, have ONE game in Nigeria, or other African country (SA?)

    I know the security concerns, but ONE game shouldn’t be too much to ask, right?

    Be kinda cool.

    • MB30SD

      They are serious athletes, but also the dodgiest, most dangerous group in the world. They are reviled by south africans (not the whites) for how brutal and criminal they can be.

      • DaMurph

        The whites dont revile them, or youre dodging the racist label? HAHA!

        • MB30SD

          they’re reviled by erraone. they’re dodgy dangerous useless smudges on the earth. bunch of cunts.

          • SC Dave

            And worst of all, the bitches have been spamming Da Blog!

  • AlbertInTucson

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      • Irish Sweetness

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        – Moroney

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

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  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    What pisses me off about anti-Cutler crowd is they’ve never been happy to criticize Jay’s actual faults. They’ve always had to invent stuff.

    He’s surly.
    His teammates don’t like him
    He doesn’t lead in the locker room
    He makes throws he shouldn’t
    He blows at the crossing route and hitting his guy full stride
    His opponents know his tendencies and play on his stubborn ways
    The back shoulder fade and jump ball to tall wideouts is his go-to
    If Singletary was “it’s on me”, Jay is often “it’s on you” by his glares and field leadership
    If he doesn’t respect a coach he doesn’t work with them well

    None of it, Jeff, is invented. Many of his detractors, esp. the radio journalists, don’t like him because he doesn’t like them – and doesn’t care if he is liked. He on’t play the media game the way they think it needs to be played, so they take up against him. But even those guys who dislike him politically have said that under Gase his controlled game was 100% better and he played within the limitations of his wideouts, something he was often unwilling to do.

    • Scharfinator

      If Jeff doesn’t believe it, it’s not true! DONT YOU UNDERSTAND BEING A HOMER?!

    • Cutty Badger

      This sounds like a post that should have been made in 2009. Is this a throwback clip?

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        Surly just means he’s not media friendly. This is news?
        I’m just saying there are throws that he relies on and there are throws he shouldn’t make.

        Jay was the best QB he ever was since Shanny under Gase. He pulled the ball down where he used to gun it, he used his legs and his speed to the outside which is underrated, to get first downs. He was a top QB last year. Alshon’s lack of bothering to condition meant he spent too much time throwing to Cameron and Mariani and guys who Bill Bellichek doesn’t even give tryouts to.

        His OL regressd last year and Long had some truly awful games at RT.

        So he’s had bad coaches, bad systems, bad wideouts and possibly the worst OL any QB at any major franchise has had to endure – ever. Really there are no words for how bad the Bears OL has been from 2008 to 2015. He was repeatedly sacked and in some cases the Lions admitted they tried to hurt him. He’s tough. Real tough.

        And I think he has a good year this year. I don’t think Jeffery cares if he stays healthy or not, and so I fully expect and damn well KNOW he will only play about 9-10 games this season. But I think if Jay can stay healthy and avoid the throws he’s shown he’s learned to avoid he can take the Bears into the playoffs.

        But his shortcomings are not imagined. They are not made up. And to pretend otherwise is to be as bad as his detractors. I would take Jay over 100 Jimmy Pickles, but Pickles is not NFL talent. QB is a very hard skill and only about half the guys STARTING in the NFL are true NFL caliber QBs. Maybe less, I don’t count guys who once showed glimpses but really can’t do it year in and year old like Alex Smith. Jay does it year in and year out, and it’s good to see him work with a coach and play not just within himself but within his team mates. Any fully rounded appraisal of the guy knows this.

        • SC Dave

          Mostly agree. But…

          ALL starting QBs, by definition, are NFL caliber, so that much is bullshit. Jay is better than most… that is, he is in the top half.

          The comment on oline being worst ever demonstrates a lack of historical perspective.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Cutty has a chance of at least standing upright this year. He should have a running game and a defense, and hopefully for the first quarter of the season at least he’ll have a few receivers to throw it at. It’ll be a career year for him if he and the receivers stay healthy.

    • willbest

      I don’t know about the teammate thing. And don’t get any vibe he is dumping responsibility on others.

      Rest of it is fair enough.

    • CanadaBear

      The first 3 and the glare one sounds like Junior High girls being catty.

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        He walked out on Waddle and Silvy who asked tough but fair questions. It’s tough to follow a guy like that in the locker room. Briggs assessment of the disaster Trestman season was that Jay just sat there, quiet. He will not and perhaps cannot, be the guy who stands in the front of the room. If you don’t see that as liability and just say “these are men who play a sport they don’t need that”, then you haven’t understood how NFL teams win.

        • CanadaBear

          What was he supposed to do when Nessman lost the team? The final nail was Kromer/Nessman trying to save their jobs by throwing him under the bus. Was Jay supposed to jump up and say “Fuck these guys, let’s win one for GSH?” Please.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            And that is why I think Jay never bought in with Trestman. He looked into Trestman’s soul Putin-Bush style and saw a guy he knew would fuck him at the first sign of trouble.

            the other point was Jay has never stood up, never led, under any coach, ever.

          • CanadaBear

            Not that I disagree with ya about the leadership thing but it’s not like any of us know what’s going on behind closed doors.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Those eyes…

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Yeah, but was it a coincidence that nearly EVERY coaching staff soured on Cutty sooner rather than later (going back to McDaniels)?

            The one common denominator was Cutty.

            Maybe Kromer’s Machiavellian backstab finally woke Cutty up that he needs to fundamentally change the way he approaches football.

          • Cutty Badger

            McDaniels didn’t sour on him. He wanted to replicate Patriots West and thought that bringing in Matt Cassel after specifically telling Cutler he was safe was a good move. He tried to do it and failed.
            Lovie’s staff didn’t sour on him. If anything he deserved to fucking sour on them. Running 7 step drops with that fucking bullshit line and the muppet WR lineup. They went to the NFC Champ game in the 2nd year he was on the team, were on track for the playoffs in 2011 until injury and then were fired because Lovie had installed Mike fucking Tice as the OC and the team missed the playoffs, albeit without playing terribly in 2012.
            The next regime was Trestman/Emery and let’s not go there. Cutler was doing just fine in 2013 before and after injury. 2014 was unique because of injuries and the coaching staff losing the team. Fucking souring on Jay? Fucking Kromer souring on Jay? Trestman? Fuck that noise.
            Then the next regime actually fucking LOVE him. John Fox loves him.
            So, yeah, nearly every coaching staff soured.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          so if he stands up to Coaches and teammates he is surly and disrespectful, but if he sits quietly he is not a leader?

      • SC Dave

        Amazes me how much you guys know about the Trestman- Cutler relationship.

        Truly… I’m amazed. We’re you intercepting their texts?

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Pretty sure MB was stalking one of his daughters for a little while, he learned a lot and let everyone know.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      All this was so apparent during a Giants game. Jay was so disgusted by his own team/coaches that he tried to switch teams and tried going to the Giants sideline right in the middle of a game. So disrespectful, I mean what a pussy, giving up on his team and not playing the 2nd half by claiming a concussion. Jay clearly could have done more, he stubbornly took dropped back play after play a took all those hits, it was like the Giants new where he would be on the field and just kept sacking him. That was clearly poor leadership, no wonder his teammates don’t like him. I can’t blame the Giants not letting him and his surly attitude join them.

      • SC Dave

        That Giants game was when I first truly respected Cutler as a warrior.

        • Irish Sweetness

          That was brutal. Seeing him try to walk over to their sideline. Jesus. I think all fans of other teams even felt a bit sorry for him. He was hit like 17 times.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      “If Singletary was “it’s on me”, Jay is often “it’s on you”

      Well, I’m not sure if that’s true or not. What QB DOESN’T glare and his WRs or throw tantrums?
      That’s why Dlinemen dream of decapitating them, and rightfully so.

      However, I do agree that Cutler is not THAT guy. That Singletary leader that would NEVER allow a locker room to devolve.

      Ryan rode Singltary HARD. Called him fat and stupid for a long time.

      But Singletary didn’t throw a tantrum, or flip him off, or walk away from him on national tv.

      He just took it as fuel to become better. And he did.

      Cutler just isn’t that guy, and that is why I compared Cutty to Jake Plummer.

      If ppl remember, Plummer lead the Broncs to the playoffs, but could never quite get them over the hump.

      Kinda like Dalton.

      So, they drafted Cutler in hope that he would be THE guy. That he would have that something extra that it takes to win it all.

      What they got was a very arrogant and petulant QB.

      Story goes, when Elway tried giving him tips at a dinner, Cutler was just checking his phone and obviously tuning out.

      This was not “imagined”. McDaniels who knew “the right stuff” from working with Brady concluded right away that Cutler was not that, nor close to it. He tried dumping him right away.

      Sure, McDaniels is a douche, but takes one to know one!

      But that was history. Some of that Cutler came to the Bears, but he has matured.

      Last season he FINALLY seemed different, and I’m not sure it was Gase at all.

      I would surmise it was just Cutler. He’s no longer “Dooooon’t care” chucking it to DeAnelo Hall 4 times in 1 game, flipping off OCs Cutty.

      Cutler finally seems like he “got it”. (keyword SEEMS).

      However, Cutler still has some of that CuttyBadger in him. That’s ok, as long as he still doesn’t have the 4INTs Cutty in him.

      But he’ll never be a Singletary type. A vocal leader.

      He’s more of the Peppers type. Great physical tools but sorta aloof and mercurial with a bit of a nasty side.

      A DE can reach the HOF with that make-up, but not a QB.

      (and the MOST frustrating part about Cutty is that there’s NO reason why he shouldn’t be a lock HOFer. He was perhaps the most physically gifted QB since Elway).

      And all this is just the “intangibles” . Like you said, he still can’t hit crossing route. Hit guys in stride. Sometimes is overly aggressive, or constipated. And the jury is out if he has that “eli” gene to rise to the occasion in big moments.

      So yeah, to piggybank off ur assessment, I also don’t believe some Cutty’s shortcomings are “imagined.”

      Jeff has been hanging out in Twitter for too long. Maybe the idiots on there come with weaksauce excuses to hate Cutty, but not on this blog.

      There are more than enough VALID reasons to believe Cutty is nothing more than “gamemanager” with an arm, as opposed to the face of the franchise and undisputed leader of the team, much less transcendental HOFer.

      And if Cutty ends up fumbling 9 times and throwing 24 INTs this season, would it REALLY shock anyone?

      Then, Jeff and Andy will merely throw Loggains under the bus, and round and round we go…

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        All that being said, obviously I’m still ROOTING for Cutty.

        Irish’s magical 10th, biatches. Chug the elixir!

        Cuz living without out hope is like living with a flaccid wang.

        • willbest

          I knew there was a reason suicide was a male problem.

        • MB30SD

          if you’re not part of the solution…. you’re part of the problem.

        • SC Dave

          I stand behind that last comment.

      • CanadaBear

        Agree up to a point. Cutler has to keep his emotions in check or it can really fuck with his body chemistry (diabetic). At least that’s according to John Madden a few years ago. So that makes things a little different. Being a coach killer is a two way street. Some of those shitty coaches were on their way to killing Cutler’s career (and health) due to their incompetence. Same with the surrounding cast. I think being a dad and hitting 30 made him grow up. He’s still the same QB but with a few refinements. I think he could take the Bears to the promised land but he needs a lot of help.

      • MB30SD

        my bad guys, my bad.

      • SC Dave

        Awesome post, Butch. Especially the two emphasized words. FINALLY and SEEMS… like Cutler *could* (my emphasis word) by the guy.

        Prove it, Jay.

        Color me skeptical, yet hopeful.

        So many disappointments over the years. Since 85, we’ve had Urlacher, Briggs, Gould, Forte, Peanut, and arguably Olin to stand with those that came before.

        It’s a pretty short list.

        P.s. oh shit, wait. Devin!!

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Between this shit show and the Zika virus, I’m thinking it may be a good time to put the Olympics on hold and move it somewhere else.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brazil-impeaches-rousseff_us_5733ce61e4b060aa78196109

    • CanadaBear

      I feel sorry for the female athletes. FIFA/Olympics are two of the most crooked organizations around.

      • That Guy

        All the big international sports organizations are. How do you expect an organization to be anything else when more than half of the member states are run by corrupt governments?

        • CanadaBear

          I think you left out the word amateur between international and sports.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That would exclude FIFA though, wouldn’t it? And like you said, they are probably the most outright, openly corrupt organization in sports.

          • CanadaBear

            Good point. I don’t think most pro sports outfits are as corrupt as FIFA.

        • willbest

          You could remove the word “sports” from that statement.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Fun fact:

      Chicago lost these Olympics to Brazil in a highly corrupt bidding process. Daley was heartbroken, he really wanted it and even got Michelle Obama to go help pitch it. Chicagoans, like me, prayed he failed.

      • CanadaBear

        Exactly! Brazil out bribed Chicago. Let that sink in for a while!

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          Whatever you wish to say about Goodell and the NFL, nobody has ever accused or felt the games were not on the level. Players may have tanked for gambler bitcoin, but nobody has ever even TRIED to affix game fixing in the NFL.

          FIFA? Not so much.

          The IOC? Child, please.

      • willbest

        Well they would have needed to find another billion dollars to make the alterations, and by that point they had already sold off everything of value (tollway, red light camera, and parking meter, etc).

      • AlbertInTucson

        L.A. is STILL paying off the 1984 Olympics bill.

        Again, the promise of how great hosting the Olympics is for a city is completely bogus.

        • Irish Sweetness

          And half of the bill went on the jetpack guy.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s just immoral for a country that poor to be hosting it. They’re in big trouble economically, and the taxpayer is asked to foot the bill? It’s just wrong.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Of all the big banks, the banks that are too big to fail and – at this stage – barely contain the corruption and rot within their hallways – of all of them – Deutsche Bank is probably the worst.

    Deutsche Bank would be the S&L in Mos Eisley. No wait, on Tattoine it would be a credit union backed by the Hutts. HSBC is pretty fucking awful, but really the true hate fucking comes from DB.

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/financial-crime/11483111/Operation-Tabernula-The-story-of-the-biggest-insider-trading-investigation-in-UK-history.html

    • SC Dave

      I won’t read, because I eschew that which makes me angry

  • CanadaBear
    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Those guys just rub me the wrong way.

      By far my leas fav NFL brothers, and probably players in the NFL.

      • CanadaBear

        Me too. Since they are gregarious and funny fans tend to like them initially. After the first year on a new team, they seem less funny and more psychotic.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Uni went from quirky, when he was producing, to kind of a dick, when he wasn’t.

          • CanadaBear

            And then went total idiot when he body slammed Fuller. From that point on, I liked him less and less. By the middle of last season I was hoping they would ship his ass out. I’ve read a couple of positive statements from teammates about BMarsh, I’ve never read even one positive statement from any of Black Uni’s teammates.

  • Sactowns#1

    Just found out John Prine will be in town this weekend. Gonan try to pick up some tix. I’ll let you know how it goes.

    • CanadaBear

      In case you’ve never used this site http://www.pollstar.com try it out. You can search by artist, city or venue. It was originally set up for the agents.

      • Sactowns#1

        Very easy to browse. Thanks

      • Bender McLugh

        very nice, thanks man!

      • SC Dave

        I hope I remember this,,, thanks man

        • CanadaBear

          If you don’t just ask. It’s a handy site.

    • SC Dave

      Fucking A… too jealous. GO <= that font
      Is waaay too small.

      One of the very few on my bucket list. Add Harry Manx, in case you care…

      • CanadaBear

        I saw Harry Manx just last year. He lives very close to me on one of the smaller islands.

  • bearfacts

    QUOTE; ” Other people whiff in the draft but we stunk at it.”

    For the most part that seems to sum it up pretty well. Angelo’s failures to draft OL and WRs who became solid starters are legendary by now but then drafting OL was never his forte. The only stable OL we had during his tenure was comprised of one draft pick and four FAs he signed from elsewhere and expecting Devin Hester to magically become a #1 WR just because he paid him like one may have been one of his biggest follies. Johnny Knox was decent but not a #1 guy and his injury ended a promising career.

    At least Emery was able to score us one Pro Bowl OL and one Pro Bowl WR so he gets a couple of atta boys for that. But GMs are supposed to hit with their early picks and of his three first rounders Long is the only true difference maker. The McClellin experiment goes down as a failure and the jury is still out on Kyle Fuller. In both instances Angelo and Emery also failed to find much talent in the middle rounds who stuck and became difference makers. Emery’s attempts to add talent at TE, Safety, and LB were all colossal failures as was his “reach” for Shea McClellin with Chandler Jones still on the board.

    So far round two and the middle rounds are where Pace seems to excel and that’s good because that’s where most teams find the core starters they build around. You only get one first rounder and if you’re drafting high like he has then it needs to be used on an impact type player. After that you’ve got four picks in rounds 2-5 to find core starters and then hope you get lucky in 6 and 7 with a developmental type or maybe guys like Wilson and Braverman who have far more talent than most 7th round picks.

    Clearly Pace and his staff have been better at finding talent in those middle rounds and by sticking to his BPA approach we’re now drafting better football players who are making the team and contributing early in their careers. Four picks from the 2015 draft either started or contributed significantly and and it wouldn’t shock me at all if the same thing happened this year. Whitehair, Bullard, and Howard should all see major playing time and I expect at least one of the DBs to prove to be a “find”. Others may help put the STeams back on top again.

    The bottom line is that Pace and his guys have just been better talent scouts and Fox and Pace have adhered to a very disciplined approach in adding good football players to the competition for roster spots and for the most part have avoided drafting good looking “athletes” who amaze on YouTube by jumping out of swimming pools but can’t cover your Granny or tackle your one legged Uncle Hugo.

    Things are definitely looking up.

    • willbest

      I will cut Angelo SOME slack since he was drafting before either George changed the ownership mindset or the CBA forced the McCaskeys to stop being cheap.

    • AlbertInTucson

      5 Playoff appearances in 23 seasons is all you need to know.

      • SC Dave

        That was hardly Emery

        • AlbertInTucson

          Blame whomever you want, there’s plenty to go around.

          That statistic is damning.

    • That Guy

      On Emery:
      – Long is a clear win.
      – Shea is a clear loss.
      – Fuller at this point, seems to have been overdrafted. I really liked Fuller because I thought he was a great cover 2 corner, but I’m not surprised at some of his struggles in Fangio’s defense. He’s a talented, but limitted player. I struggled with whether he was worth our second round pick, but I did not expect us to spend our first on him. If he had been taken in the third round, nobody would be complaining about his performance thus far. A lot can change, but I look at Fuller as “overdrafted” as opposed to “bust.”

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        Yeah, I just don’t really see Fuller as a fit in our new system either.

        Not sure if he’s a trail technique CB. Doesn’t seem fluid or aware enough, and lacks elite closing speed.

        Even Peanut in his prime struggled covering in man (except Megatron) esp vs smaller WRs or accurate QBs.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Fuck Steve Smith.

      • Captain Obvious

        Fuller was rated as the #1, #2, or #3 corner in the draft. There was no way he’d be around in the 2nd round where we picked.

        Where a guy gets drafted is meaningless compared to what he ends up being on the field. Your 1st rounder is a bust, but your 4th rounder ends up an All-Pro. Is that a victory? A net loss? A wash?

        Given that even 1st rounders have about a 50% bust rate, and even guys who are consensus 1st-round “locks,” or who are considered “safe” picks (I’m thinking Carimi here) end up washing out, it’s ridiculous to talk about “overdrafting” a guy.

        Remember everyone wanted Emery’s head because he drafted Long “early.” Everyone thought Long was, at best, a 2nd rounder. But with the run on Olinemen, Long was the next guy off the board and wouldn’t last until our pick in the 2nd. So even then, you’ve got Long defined as “overdrafted” by the Bears. But the guy is a solid, PB-level OG and looks to be a rock on the line for a long, long time. So is he still “overdrafted?”

        This quibbling bullshit is such bullshit.

        Now, when guys say, “Instead of Player X, we could have drafted Player Y, who plays a position we needed to address, and who has gone on to a much better career than Player X,” THEN that makes sense. McClellin is a perfect example. Jones was still on the board, played a position we needed help at, and has had a much better career to-date than OPS.

        Or, if you can say that we were the only team interested in a guy and we could’ve gotten him a round later, then back it up with some evidence and I’ll buy it. Again, McClellin is a good example. There’s a good chance he would’ve been a wasted 2nd round pick instead of a wasted 1st.

        Can you do either of those things with Fuller? Was there another player we should’ve drafted instead? Would Fuller have lasted to the 2nd round?

        I think the answer to both of those questions is that the Bears were in-line with the thinking of the rest of the league about Fuller, and any team with a need at CB would have picked him at that point.

    • SC Dave

      Clearly better at middle rounds based on what, exactly?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse
    • willbest

      He must have just thrown that number out there. That can’t be right unless half of them were placebos

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I am still laughing at how blown out these media coverage are on celebrities ODing on drugs and such.

      If people would just try to remember that many, many famous people have died this way, then it’s not really thst surprising.

      It’s sad that many celebrities do not know how to lead a normal life once they aren’t in the spotlight anymore. What do they do? Think about? It’s probably one of the biggest reason they turn to drugs, to not think, to not feel alone, etc.

      I am curious to see how the whole secret private doctors network case and investigation turns out though because you just know that there are a bunch of scumbags who do take advantage of these celebrities and high end clientels….but it is a two way street of this opiates and drug operation

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        This has nothing to do with celebrities, this is about opioid addiction that people fall into.
        They permanently alter your brain chemistry. Small midwestern towns are undergoing AIDS and Hep C outbreaks because of epidemic opioid abuse.
        Sorry that I didn’t preface point of posting the the story better.

        • willbest

          heroin is cheaper than dealing with depression from the lack of purpose associated with lack of economic opportunity and the destruction of small town culture.

          Not that I am a Luddite, but there were going to be casualties to BigAg and well we don’t give a toss about that because its mostly just a bunch of hicks.

          Amusingly its the “crackpot” Whole Foods liberals that have come in to lend a hand (without much thought to it), because the more industrious small farmer operations have moved to organic non-GMO style production and have found success there. But a lot, if not most, conservatives deride that as being anti-science.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Half my family, who are my liberal than myself, are from and lived most of their lives in rural downstate Illinois towns with one traffic light. I don’t consider them, or the farming communities that we’re from, to be hicks.
            I totally agree with your first sentence. I find the last one hilariously ironic….because “science”.

          • willbest

            My “we” was a sub in for the coastal elite power center of the country. My family moved to central IL and started farming it before it was a state.

            Everybody has science. Plenty of studies showing GMOs are safe and that organics are not any healthier/nutritious than roundup resistant crops, for example. Problem with science is every time somebody gets around to replicating the results of somebody else’s findings they fail to do so half the time.

            Which is a reason to just flat out ignore anybody that won’t release their raw data.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Interesting, same here. From Ohio to a particular crossroads area downstate.
            Scots and Germans (the Germans came later in the 19th century).

          • SC Dave

            “… a six pack of malt liquor, the Prozac of the poor”

            Line from Ballad of Larry by Jonathan Byrd.

            A fine song. But he does those

          • SC Dave

            But I lol at the conservative anti- science attribution. Lol… really

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          not to be dumb guy – but how do you get AIDS from opiod abuse? Do you use a needle? I thought an opiod was a pill

      • willbest

        Well the simple act of somebody following you around taking pictures and recording does that. And then there is the sob stories from strangers, and requests from family, and the guilt trips from friends. And then there is the simple access they have to all sorts of shit.

        As Bill Burr says, you can says “I would never” but I ain’t ever had the Swedish bikini team throw themselves at me willing to do all kinds of depraved shit, pharmacy in hand.

        It doesn’t surprise me Prince stayed in MN, from what I have read the locals didn’t ever make a big deal out of him walking around town other than to say “hi” and keep on moving. A bit surprised more celebrities don’t do that.

        • MB30SD

          I would like to sign up to try that for a few…. years

  • willbest

    I have a 529 for my kids, but I read things like this and I don’t even know what I am saving for.

    http://chronicle.com/article/At-Harvard-All-Female-Groups/236431

    Harvard recently passed a rule that says starting in 2017 members of sex exclusive organizations (aka fraternities and sororities) will no longer be allowed to serve in campus leadership positions or receive endorsements for scholarships (like Rhodes). The women in the all-female groups are protesting that this should only apply to men, because women deserve special privileges and safe spaces or some such.

    I can’t believe this group of people has the inside track to rule over us some day.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      In the hippie 60s, frats and sororities underwent the same attacks. in the Reagan 80s when I went to school, they were back in vogue in a big way.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        They received a couple of year death sentence from my school (total ban on activities, membership, etc) in the late 80’s because of a hazing incident, and were slowly being brought back in the early 90’s when I started college. Mine dated back to 1918, but when I left, it was still limping along, like the rest of the non-national affiliated ones.
        The tornado that destroyed big parts of the campus and disrupted the ’99 school year basically finished the non-academic, non-sports fraternities off entirely.
        It sucks.

  • Cutty Badger

    My money is where my mouth is. Based on last year with Defensive Muppets and no WR’s and Long playing like Jordan Mills we competed fucking hard and ended up with a record not representative of where things are headed. The O/U on Bears wins stands at 6.5
    This very weekend a trusted friend is heading to Vegas with a fair amount of my heavily taxed money that should be spent on my kids tuition. Instead, he’s putting it on the OVER. Why? Because that’s what real Bears fans do. They risk it all and send their kids to public school if it doesn’t work out.

    • CanadaBear

      Good Luck! Hope ya cash in.

    • willbest

      I don’t understand how you can bet your kid’s tuition. That shit is due in August, you can’t collect your bet until the Bears get to 7-0 on October 20 @ Green Bay. And really you are talking Oct 31 when they beat the Vikings and go to 7-1 because they probably will lose in Dallas in week 3. Romo won’t have started his 6 week mid season vacation yet, and they will have Zeke behind that O-line.

      • Cutty Badger

        Is it really gambling when you know you’re going to win?

        • Swing Tackle of Destiny

          No it’s not.

          Now…. sign here…..

          http://tinyurl.com/gl8jk3c

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny
          • Cutty Badger

            I know this can go a lot of directions and I feel dumb for asking but…….what the fuck is Bitcoin?
            I’m stuck in a different time period. I think I used a few pennies AND a 2 dollar bill the other day to pay for fast food so my wife wouldn’t get mad at me.

            haha, the look on the teenagers face was priceless. She was like “what the fuck is this fake money?”

          • willbest

            Digital currency. It is designed to be “unhackable”, finite, and decentralized meaning that it cannot be controlled or manipulated the way fiat currency is.

            It is envisioned as a more convenient and safer form of gold.

          • Cutty Badger

            Isn’t it ironic that the guys that will be the most successful in the near future after The Road happens are those weird old men on your block that know how to fix engines and mechanical gadgets.

          • willbest

            That won’t matter unless somebody is still refining petro. Really you are going to have to go find the horse whisperers and the men that know how to build carts and wagons with hand tools.

          • Cutty Badger

            I have Guns and the ability to compartmentalize bad actions for the greater good. I can provide protection to those men while they build carts and wagons. I grow a mean grape tomato as well.

          • MB30SD

            I may or may not have a place for you in my tribe (not that one), when the shit hits the fan. You have to find your way out to cali on your own, but if you make it… you will be welcomed into the compound.

            Just wave your bears hat 4 times, or you will catch a 556 to the eyeball.

          • Shady

            God help him if he only waves it thrice.

          • MB30SD

            you too my maings

          • Shady

            I’ll be yodeling like a boss…

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzcxruP8mDM

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            I, however, having been a capitalist instrument of society’s demise, will be summarily be drawn and quartered.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yup. Guns. Samurai swords, and numbers. That is all.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            If Mad Max goes down, I’m becoming Amish.

            They’ve been living without crap for the past 200 years.

            They can marry multiple chicks, right?

            Also, I finally watched “Witness”.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MuobI8NLM4U

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think the Amish go in for polygamy. One other thing, Amish girls aren’t as bad looking as the fundamentalist Mormon women (the Amish seem to avoid inbreeding) but they aren’t exactly beauty queens. Let’s put it this way, I’ve never seen any woman that looked like Kelly McGillis when I used to go to the Amana Colonies in Iowa.

          • Cutty Badger

            that kind of looks like Trestman when his glasses are off.

        • Shady

          Hopefully that Cubs money line didn’t get you yesterday…

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fuckin’ A. Winning the division at 10/1 is tempting, but reliant on other teams in your division. The over on 6.5 is a gimme.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    So, Graham might be a cap cut? Should Bears dole out the $ for him?

    4 questions.

    1. Didnt’ he rupture his tendon? Will he become Graham circa Saints?

    2. How much will he cost? And do we want to invest that much into TEs? (just resigned Miller)

    3. How will Miller take it?

    4. It’s no secret we want to be run oriented, and Graham isn’t exactly a powerblocker.

    https://twitter.com/bgoboomer/status/730802970204377088

    • willbest

      Considering what Jordan Reed got, and what Graham will want, I am going to go full Irish on this one and say stick Tayo out there.

      • That Guy

        Do you think anyone will pay Graham that kind of money after the way things went in Seattle?

        • willbest

          He obviously isn’t going to make $10 mil a year, but look at the contracts being signed by TEs the last 2 years

          Kelce – 9.4 mil per year
          Reed – 9.35 mil
          JT – 9.2 mil (2015)
          Ertz – 8.5 mil
          Clay – 7.6 mil (2015)
          Olsen – 7.5 (2015)
          Allen 7.3 mil
          Fleener 7.2 mil

          You think you are going to get Graham for less than 8 million? Best you can hope for with Graham is lower guarantees Say 3-year 26 million with an $8 million signing bonus.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            I thought Allen’s contract was pretty reasonable.

            If we can get Graham for that, I say go for it.

            But if it’s higher than Kelce’s, perhaps not.

            Would we still be able to afford Graham, Alshon, Long plus Mo Wilkerson?

          • That Guy

            Alshon getting a deal only makes his cap number go down. Long plus Graham is pretty affordable given our $17M or so available this year. But we couldn’t do another big signing (like a Wilkerson) without backloading. Pace doesn’t want to do that with a player like Graham – he’s trying to get younger.

            Plus, as sad as it makes all of us, the ship appears to have sailed on Wilkerson. But we’ve picked up some nice consolation prizes for the D-line this off-season.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            I think this year the Mo ship may have sailed, but maybe not.

            But there’s no way that the Jets will be able to afford both Mo and Richardson (who by most accounts they prefer), so Mo might be able to join us for no picks next offseason.

            That’s one of the reasons I thought the Jets would trade Mo. Oh well, we’ll see, but yeah, Graham might seem like a luxury.

            But how lethal would our O be with Graham/Miller, Alshon, White, Langford, Royal…

          • That Guy

            Dunno, Graham was middling at best in Seattle. By all accounts that was a scheme issue, but who knows? He’s definitely worth having on a roster, but he might not be able to produce what the market thinks he can.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            SEA was def baffling last season.

            Graham is not known for run blocking. They trade for him. Then they don’t throw to him. Then he gets inj.

            Then, Wilson transforms into Steve Young and goes off on an aerial rampage to close out the season.

            Not sure what to make of it, esp since the Saints pick up some 35yr old TE and make him a stud.

          • willbest

            We have about 18-20 million in cap right now after draft class is signed and reserving some for mid season replacements. Mo’s going to cost you $15 a year, and Graham say $8, but it would be easy enough to manage the $3-5 million and fit them on the team. Like I said if you get graham for 3-year say 26 mil with a 8 mil signing bonus that would be enough to get under the cap.

            Jeffery is roughly $15 million cap hit now. A long term deal could give you cap relief now, but Jeffery really is a $15 mil a year WR. Cap being what it is, and projected to go up 8-10 mil a year its not even really up for discusion. ODB might very well be the first $20mil/yr WR when he comes off his rookie contract in 2 years as the cap will be 175-180 by then.

            Now if you are worried if your dream would require us to mortgage Bears’ future don’t. Even if we signed Mo and Graham and Jeffery and Long to long term deals we would still have $22-26 million dollars in cap space to spend in FA next year (b/c we will cut Royal and Houston).

            That is the advantage of sucking for so long. We have no elite talent to pay.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I truly believe signing Mo would put us in the playoffs no matter what happens on offense. Use next year’s draft to get another O-lineman and fix up the secondary.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Double TE sets with Miller. I like it. Could be a pass, or it could be a handoff to Howard in behind Tayo and Massie/Long. And if Unrein is leading at FB … Hey-ho!

        • willbest

          Double TE with a full back. So 1 WR? Goal line formation down the field

          • CanadaBear

            Facts can be so irritating!

    • Irish Sweetness

      Josh Hill looks the sweeter option doesn’t he?

      • Cutty Badger

        Saints wont let him go.

  • That Guy

    A few quick thoughts on Andrew’s post.

    Lovie Smith’s first season as the coach of the Bears saw us spend nearly every draft pick on the defense. That strategy yielded Tommie Harris, Tank Johnson and Nathan Vasher. The following year, we were offense heavy (Cedrik Benson, Kyle Orton). The following year, we were mixed (D. Manning, Devin Hester). That draft strategy got us to the Superbowl where we were a quarterback away from winning the championship.

    Between ’07 and ’09 we spent 6/9 of our picks in the first three rounds on offense. In ’10, we gave up a ton of draft capital for Jay Cutler. In ’11 we drafted Gabe Carimi in the first round.

    Angelo did not neglect the offense.

    Emery came in to a team with a seriously aging defense. He spent 4/10 (including B Marsh) of our picks in the top three rounds on offense. 6/10 went to defense. I struggle to call that neglecting the offense either.

    Pace has spent 50% of the top three rounds on offense and 50% on defense. I just don’t see a trend that sets him apart from Angelo or Emery in terms of where he puts his focus in the draft.

    You can focus on the defense and win championships. You can focus on the offense and win championships. You can divide your resources 50/50 and win championships. That was not the problem with Angelo or Emery.

    The one thing you must do if you intend to win games is draft good players.

    • Cutty Badger

      NB, I want to have sex with your logical mind.

      • That Guy

        I’d make some kind of witty response about your foul mouth, but that’s a bit too easy to take literally.

        • Cutty Badger

          What i meant to say was “take your logical mind out to a nice dinner, maybe a show, then and only then, make sweet, passionate and most importantly consensual love to your logical mind.”

    • SC Dave

      Fuck blaming Grossman for the fail.

      The Super Bowl was just as much lost by defensive coaching which could not figure out how to stop passes to mediocre rbs, and people not bothering to tackle a guy that intercepted a pass.

      • That Guy

        Aren’t you the same guy that can’t stop hating Jay Cutler? And you’re a Rex Grossman fan?

      • CanadaBear

        There were a lot of hands on that loss. The Sex Cannon of course, but also putting in Cedrunk when Jones is rolling and when Rex threw an INT the entire O acted like the guy was radioactive. After Manning screwed up on that long bomb, Lovie went ultra conservative and made sure that never happened the rest of the game. Even though it was a fluke that wasn’t going to happen again. Lovie/Rivera’s refusal to change the D, leaving the middle exposed all game. UGH!

      • Irish Sweetness

        I think if we had a QB we had a chance. Figure in quitting on Thomas Jones, and MB and Tommie Harris being injured, we were pretty close otherwise. Peyton was unstellar, as usual.

  • Cutty Badger

    BearsWire talking up an UDFA named Don Cherry from Villanova. Yes, the football powerhouse Villanova. All American Don Cherry:
    http://www.patriots.com/video/2016/02/14/2016-draft-prospects-don-cherry-lb-villanova
    6’1 240lb
    Irish, Strong Safety? Change the game?

  • Cutty Badger

    well herrroooo:

    Rumblings that Bears had their 2nd round pick stolen from them by Chargers in Tight End Hunter Henry. Chargers thought enough of him to take him 6 picks ahead of Bears and Bears moved down as a result.
    http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/dont-scoff-bears-moving-defensive-line-greg-scruggs-tight-end
    Oh…and we’re moving a DE to TE because that’s going to solve our depth at TE.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      He got Big Catz’d

      • Cutty Badger

        lol, I see an awesome pattern developing. Let’s see how long you can hold out.

    • Shady

      That’s how I felt on draft day, wanted that kid in the 2nd.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Scruuuuggs!

      Yes, I the pirate venereal disease .

      Please let him make the cut. I need a good FF name.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny
    • willbest

      You get what you vote for. Unless you are British.

      http://youngherald.com/2016/05/attenborough-sinks-boaty-mcboatface/

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      95% of exports is petroleum.
      Government acts like petroleum prices will never drop, builds up rest of economy accordingly, and never matures other industries.
      Petroleum drops from $147 a barrel to $40 a barrel.
      Chaos ensues.
      That country is f-cked regardless of who is in power, they just don’t know it.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        “Government acts like petroleum prices will never drop”

        That’s the problem, right there.

        Truth is, most types of governments will work when the leaders make sound decisions that don’t make the populace starve.

        • willbest

          The practical reality is that populations aren’t rational and won’t really tolerate a trillion dollar rainy day fund. The Saudis can get away with it because they have no pretense of democracy.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            See, that’s what I mean.

            I mean, talk about totalitarian, aristocratic and fundamental, yet Saudi Arabia is probably in better shape than us.

            Many of the Scandinavian countries are successful models of socialism (and to a certain extent, England, Canada, New Zealand and maybe even Japan, etc).

            History has shown us that pretty much any model can “work” with the right leadership.

            If FDR didn’t die, I wonder if ppl would’ve just kept electing term limits be damned.

            The only system doomed to failure is communism because it’s based on an colossally mistaken premise: man wants to be equal to his neighbor.

            A tyrant is merely an evil king, but history is filled with “great” or “just” Kings.

            Most democracies don’t really get a truly evil leader at least.

            Just really incompetent ones, which is almost as bad.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            No, they are not

          • Captain Obvious

            Saudi Arabia is in better shape than us?

            You have no idea what you’re saying.

            Saudi Arabia is a couple bad days away from being a civil war.

            One of the reasons they’re our biggest ally in the Middle East, buying all the weaponry we want to sell them, is because they’re just as likely to use that weaponry against their own populace as they are against Iran.

            Get outside of the royal family, and no one–NO ONE–in Saudi Arabia likes the government. The two things stopping a popular uprising in Saudi Arabia is that the oil wealth does trickle down to the populace, and the weaponry gives the government the fear factor. As oil prices have cratered, the government’s less able to buy off the population.

            Mark my words, Saudi Arabia will have a Tienanmen moment before too long.

          • Swing Tackle of Destiny

            See this ugly little motherfucker?

            http://tinyurl.com/jagzfd8

            yeah, he needs to hang from a noose. beat to death with a pipe.

            HIs name is Fahad al-Thumairy. He’s a mid rank Saudi intelligence officer. Along with two Saudi naval officers, they set up a safe house and a funding source for 2 of the 9-11 hijackers in San Diego, including Mohammed Atta, the ring leader.

            They gave them logistics support, money and intelligence in support of flight training. All this has now been outed by Republican commissioner, former navy secretary John F Lehman.

            It’s EXCEEDINGLY unlikely that Thumairy was acting alone, given his station. I would even venture that knowledge of the operation went as high as the King.

            Just so we know what we are dealing with.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Obviously I’m not referring to the totalitarian part, but I think they’re pretty well off fiscally from all that I’ve read.

            They have billions invested in the U.S., so if we go down, they’d likely go down too (they wouldn’t be alone). However, they survived being Bushed, so it would take a 29 Depression for that to happen.

            Saudi Arabians don’t like the government?

            Neither do Americans!

            The religious factions obviously are a risk to their stability, but Americans have their schisms that are becoming alarmingly as divisive while crippling our ability to do ANYTHING (except war, apparently).

          • willbest

            Except the part where the Saudis keep their population under control through supression of basic rights while blaming the Jews, Iranians, and Americans while funding terrorism against the same.

            And Scandinavia isn’t the socialist Utopia people think it is. In fact none of Europe is the liberal wet dream people ascribe to it.

            As for us our government is too big to be competent.

          • CanadaBear

            Why are the Scandinavian people always listed as the most satisfied/happy/etc. in poll after poll after poll?

          • willbest

            All betrayed by their high rates among western countries of alcoholism, suicide, and anti-depressant usage.

            And people think Donald Trump is a racist xenophobe. They have some genuinely xenophobic political parties over there and they gain more an more support each election.

            Also of note are cultural issues. For example, boasting is considered poor form in Japan and claiming to be happy is considered boasting. Whereas in Denmark it is considered shameful to be unhappy.

          • CanadaBear

            No doubt they have extremists over there but from everything I’ve seen they are much happier than people in the US.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Yes, but we have higher murder rates, worse health care, education, more incarcerated (see education), etc etc we’re an obese, overpopulated, overmedicated, under-educated, violent zest pool that needs to change its ways…but I digress…

          • willbest

            That isn’t really a fair comparison because the US isn’t a nation so much as it is a multicultural bazaar or an Empire if you are willing to admit it isn’t normal to have 600 odd military installations in 40 countries that aren’t your own.

            However if you break US crime stats out by demographics you find that US whites are only marginally more murderous than their European counterparts and our Hispanics are much better behaved than those in Mexico and South America. Same is true if you do that with PISA scores in education. Our Asians compete with the Japanese, our Whites with the Fins, and no Hispanic country comes close to our Hispanics.

            Healthcare is also complicated. There really are pros and cons to each system. The US isn’t really worse than any other country unless your only metric is price. We excel at quite a number of things to the point where there is medical tourism to the US. Its just easier to attack the US system because we wear our sin on our sleeve. Quality of product however is much harder to gauge. Which makes it really easy to argue for single-payer because the pitch is make healthcare more affordable, and confuse people over the details on what affect that will have on your service because rest assured there is waste out there.

          • SC Dave

            Self deception.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            I never argued scandanavian countries are “utopias” only equally “successful” as the US, or maybe even moreso.

            It’s hard to judge one country with the next, but needless to say, I doubt those aforementioned ‘socialist’ countries will get Chavezd. They simply have the infrastructure to combat that or withstand it.

            3rd world countries are just that. It almost doesn’t matter what political system they use. Plenty of “capitalist” countries in africa and south america (Don’t cry for me Argentina…) that fail hard.

            In fact, I’m pretty sure Marx himself said that communism must first take place in industrialized countries first for it to take root.

            The opposite happened, and we see the results.

            Marx’s other prediction came true too though. That incrementally workers would struggle and fight for socialist safegaurds in industrialized countries against the ruling class…ss, medicare, dmv, education transportation, unions, OSHA, environmental regulations…etc etc

            He envisioned going the whole 10 yds, but it aint gonna happen, esp not after the examples of the USSR and China.

          • willbest

            We were all 3rd world countries once.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Maybe. But it isn’t democracy or capitalism that makes nations powerful.
            Egypt, Rome, England, etc were all on top of the of the food chain, and practiced a radically different political system than the U.S.

          • willbest

            Yes there are multiple ways up the mountain. But the people and their culture matter. Seems a bit odd that we base our policies on the irrelevance of culture.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Yes but is anyone going to argue that american culture was superior to Ancient Greece, Rome, Aristocratic England, etc?

            That’s be hard to prove.

            And is our culture superior to even contemporaries like Japan, England, the Scandinavian,, etc who are more socialist?

            Dunno. Just gotta ask Waffle in between dodging bullets….

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Yes, we don’t need proof we are the greatest. ‘MERICA!!!! FUCK YEAH!!!!

          • willbest

            It always depends on your benchmark. The US is, without question, the most innovative country to have ever existed. This is something that is taken for granted that somehow this spirit will endure even through a fundamental cultural change. Our rise from a ragtag group of misfits to only world super power was done at legendary speed. We most certainly won’t have the longevity of Rome though. Great civilizations aren’t conquered, they rot from within, and we are doing that with equally impressive haste. Sort of a burn twice as bright for half as long approach.

            And then there is the issue that every one of those contemporaries is dependent on the United States. Its hard to say your culture is superior when it requires the will of strangers to ensure its existence.

            Do you think Japan would be as great today without our 70 year occupation of it?

          • willbest

            Oh FDR probably wouldn’t have won another term, he lost support in his 4th election. And he didn’t have the term limit, that came in because of him. Prior to him it was just tradition set by Washington, though he wasn’t the first to try and ignore Washington’s precedent.

          • SC Dave

            Kasparov wrote a great rebuttal to the fantasy that those societies are ‘ successful’, and how much they depended on American protection and innovation.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Exactly.

          • SC Dave

            This. It is also the reason the KeynesIan economics of government intervention are a fantasy, bound inevitably for destruction of the perpetrators’ currency.

  • Shady

    Shocking, I know.

    “A new book threatens to blow the lid off of Congress as a federal legislator’s tell-all book lays out the worst parts of serving in the House of Representatives – saying that his main job is to raise money for re-election and that leaves little time for reading the bills he votes on.

    Robert Atkinson, a former chief of staff and press secretary for two congressional Democrats, took notes on a series of informal talks with him – whoever he is – and is now publishing them with his permission.

    ‘Voters claim they want substance and detailed position papers, but what they really crave are cutesy cat videos, celebrity gossip, top 10 lists, reality TV shows, tabloid tripe, and the next f***ing Twitter message,’ the congressman gripes in the book.

    ‘I worry about our country’s future when critical issues take a backseat to the inane utterings of illiterate athletes and celebrity twits.’

    Much of what’s in the book will come as little surprise to Americans who are cynical about the political process.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3586858/Screw-generation-Anonymous-congressman-writes-tell-slams-nation-naive-self-absorbed-sheep-admits-never-reads-bills-votes-on.html#ixzz48UodiTIs

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    • willbest

      I am convinced that the house of representatives should just draft 500 or so people at random by state with say an SAT over 1200 on the old scale for two year terms.

      Senate can go back to being appointed by state legislatures. Save us a ton of bother

      • Scharfinator

        Then you’re discriminating against stupid people! THE OUTRAGE!!!

        A rather utilitarian take from a self prescribed libertarian… Not that I think it is a bad idea 🙂

        • willbest

          That was just the big restriction, I would prune it down further than that. The goal is to have people that care about the country, who can understand cause and effect, and can think beyond tomorrow.

          And if they are drafted rather than elected they can’t be bought and they won’t have to concern themselves with reelection so they will be best situated to make the hard choices. And if they only serve 2 years they will be difficult to corrupt en mass in such a short period.

          • CanadaBear

            Where there’s a will there’s a way. No pun intended.

          • Scharfinator

            A draft infringes on the personal freedoms of the individual, does it not? That’s violating one of the core tenets of Libertarianism as you are forcing someone into a role.

          • willbest

            I am not a libertarian. And lots of things infringe on the personal freedoms of the individual. If you don’t want to live in a Might is Right world, you have to submit to some form of authority which means you are giving up your freedom. Its always a question of how much.

            Your window of potential service will be from about 30-64. That is only 18 drafts, 9,000 draftees. Your odds of being selected are quite small even if through the process of disqualifying people I get the draft pool down to 30 million people or so.

            Plus its not really a full time job when you don’t have to raise funds. It would be easy enough to have a dormitory set up in DC for the members and they could just stay there for the 4 months a year they are in session. The rest of their job could be done remotely.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny
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  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Has Bob Woodward, the guy played by Redford in All The Presidents Men, the guy who groomed Deep Throat, the guy who wrote the stupidly mean spirited take down of Belushi – has that guy been reduced to little more than Jeff Besos lap dog?

    Seems like he has. Hasn’t been relevant in 30 years.

  • CanadaBear
  • Irish Sweetness

    DaBearsBlog ‎@dabearsblog

    Rory McIlroy is doing something right now.

    You know it.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I just took a dump. Do you think Jeff will tweet about that?

  • CanadaBear
    • Sactowns#1

      I don’t disagree with him. I think the Bears have made a couple of boneheaded moves and they include both those guys.
      So we saved some money. Too bad we didn’t spend it on anything. We have $24 mil in cap space. More than enough to sign both those guys. The more I think about the more pissed I get.

      • CanadaBear

        I thought Forte lost a little last year and understood not re-signing him. I was shocked when I read what he got. I guess POX made up their minds to move on no matter what. Jettisoning BMarsh and Bennett made total sense to me. Both really talented and both really divisive.

        • willbest

          That is one thing about Pox. He also didn’t bother asking if Slauson would be willing to renegotiate his contract.

      • beninnorcal

        I don’t think getting rid of Marshall had anything to do with money.
        As for Forte, I love this guy, but I can’t call it boneheaded until the games are played. He sure seemed like he had a lotta tread left, but I wouldn’t be too shocked if he starts slowing down these next few years.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      “He does it all. He picks up blitzes, he puts his nose in there, he
      catches the ball out of the backfield. He has amazing vision. He’s a
      leader. He’s the type of guy you want in your locker room.”

      Can’t say I disagree, esp about the vision, not so much about lowering the boom.

      But the key word is, past 8 years. And before that, Forte was a workhorse in college.

      I know Forte is extremely dedicated, but it’s physics. History says he’ll break down, and when it happens, it’ll happen as quickly as Peanut who was essentially injured or ineffective for 2 years.

      Still think Forte squeezes out 1 or 2 Fortesque season, but anything beyond that and he truly is inhuman and deserves serious consideration for the HOF.

      • willbest

        Tillman made it further in Carolina, but then again he wasn’t being asked to defend WR1s anymore.

        • AlbertInTucson

          And he broke down, again, in Carolina.

      • willbest

        Forte has never had the 1 season of glory that seems to be necessary for an RB HoF candidate. But if he has 3 more seasons at say 800 ground/ 400 air he would end his career somewhere between 10th and 14th all time in yards from scrimmage depending on what AP, Fitz, and Gore do over that time.

        • willbest

          Incidentally on the yards from scrimmage stat, Julio Jones took the title last year with 1871 which I am pretty sure is the first time a wide receiver has ever held that title.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Yeah, Julio went off.
            When that dude is healthy, he’s unstoppable.

  • Cutty Badger

    Alshon, missing more time with the team and now Pace is starting to really throw out the generic answers. Oh boy, they are pissed. Alshon, you do you playa.

    • willbest

      I doubt I would show up to voluntary workouts without long term papers. No sense in risking injury on the team’s terms without the $30-35 million in guaranteed. Especially if he thinks the teams strength and conditioning/practice style was responsible for his injuries.

      • Cutty Badger

        Every day that he’s away and “training” in Florida without Marshall is another day closer to injury. Hammer out the fucking deal and get to work. It’s time to win, not be a distraction.

        • willbest

          He could be binge watching Gilmore Girls for all we know.

    • CanadaBear

      Johnny, he’s missing out on working out in the gym with his teammates. Nothing more, nothing less. Yeah it would be great for him to be there to bond with his teammates but other than the new guys, the bonding was done the last 4 years. Not gonna sweat this.

      • Cutty Badger

        I hear you man. Just another distraction for team trying to climb up from the fucking bottom. Not ideal.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        He probably has a closer bond to his trainer since he’s always sidelined with a strained vag.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    The audio is kind of funny.

    Trump poses as his own publicist, talks about himself in the third person – about how chicks want to bang “him” or Trump, as he calls himself. How he is a playa and how the pretty pretty babies come a-callin all night and all day. That and he schlonged Madonna. Expect the porn parody in 3….2….1….

    http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/05/13/477939211/trump-denies-posing-as-his-own-spokesman-refutes-audio-recording

    • willbest

      It took real effort to troll people prior to the internet.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Why are people making a big deal out of this? And it’s hilarious that this recording still exist. Jerky Boys fever I assume? They were around then?

      I just threw up a little thinking about that porn parody image

      • willbest

        They are getting desperate. New polls out showing he is tied with Clinton in key states (and Trump outperforms his polling by an average of 3 points). Kitchen sink approach. Something is bound to stick.

        • Captain Obvious

          One poll. Quinnipiac, which has a 65% accuracy over the past 4 years.

          The national polling average, as well as polling trend in battleground states, show Clinton up by quite a bit.

          Plus, the Electoral math is grim nonetheless for Trump. I’ll say this again: if Clinton wins all the states that have been won by Democrats in EVERY election for the past 24 years, she only has to win ONE of the following states to win the Presidency: North Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Ohio. And even if she loses all four of those battleground states, she can still win by getting other toss-up and Democrat-leaning states.

          Demography is against the GOP. Young people, Hispanics, and African-Americans are majority Democrat. By the time many of us are grandfathers, Texas’s Latino population will turn it into a blue state.

          • madscout12

            Except that no other candidate entered the race with the favorability ratings that Sec. Clinton enjoys currently.

            http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/hillary-clinton-favorable-rating

            She’s lucky the Republicans have been dumb enough to choose Trump, and Cruz as a back up, because if Bush or Kasich ran, they’d probably beat her. And I hate all of the past four names.

          • willbest

            Bush wouldn’t win. 9 of 11 million people that voted for Trump would have stayed home in the general.

            And I know this is hard to believe, but Trump has the best chance to win of everybody that ran.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            “but Trump has the best chance to win of everybody that ran.”

            Grand Ole Party!

            IKE must be turning over in his grave.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            IKE is probably trying to dig out of his grave.

          • willbest

            Everybody else doesn’t seem to have the political skill to carefully handle their skeletons the way Teflon Don has. Its a rare skill, even among politicians.

          • Irish Sweetness

            She’s a Bilderberger. That is all. What the people think is irrelevant. This has already been decided.

            When the ‘nominees’ were announced, was there ANY doubt as to whom would be put forward, and who will win? It was plain as day.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Hey Jeff, is Whitehair gonna be a star? Just double checking. Hehe

  • SC Dave

    Regarding the threads where people cite the ” success” of socialism, I offer this rebuttal:

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/03/15/russian-chess-master-garry-kasparovs-harsh-critiques-of-bernie-sanders-and-socialism/

    Follow the link to the Facebook post… it’s worth reading

    • willbest

      Socialism functions in small homogenous societies with exceptionally high levels of trust. That is why anybody that points to Scandinavia is off base. They are literally whiter versions of Minnesota.

      • madscout12

        Socialism exists alongside capitalism. It is not a black and white thing, but rather a degree. We have socialism in the US: medicare, medicaid, social security, the military, the post office, etc etc etc. We also have one of the most capitalistic societies.

        The issue isn’t a grand plan of socialism vs capitalism, unless you’re talking about the rhetoric. It is what works and what doesn’t. For example, a single-payer/government runs pretty damn well in little countries such as Scandinavia, but also in large rural countries like Canada, urban countries like Japan and Taiwan, etc. Literally every other major country/economy in the world has either single payer or some other government provided healthcare, and it works better than ours in almost every case. And if we did that here, we would get rid of government. Have medicare for all? Well, you don’t need the VA, or medicaid, or children’s healthcare, or all of the hundreds of other programs that government provides people healthcare with…and the politicians will be on the same plan.

        On the rhetoric side, Sanders simply represents a paradigm change. Since Reagan, we’ve been living under the paradigm that, in short, “government is not the solution to our problems, government is the problem”. And every single president and politician has lived under that paradigm ever since. Sanders counters saying that there are key roles that only government can play, and they are important roles that allow people the pursuit of happiness.

        • willbest

          It is important to be discussing the same thing. The continuum of socialism differs from an American understanding of the destination along that spectrum. Which is basically the Sweden in its most favorable light.

          Bernie isn’t going to reverse this graph

          https://thedilettantesdilemmadotcom.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/trust-in-government.gif

          Ironically trust in government rebounded when we had a President that was telling us not to trust government. But ask yourself this. Given the abuses and incompetence in the VA, in military procurement, in banking oversight, in pretty much everything else the government does, what makes you think its ready for more?

          And keep in mind that, by law, displaced federal civil servants get dibs on openings of similar skill sets. So there is a good bet the administrative expansion associated with you medicare for all will gobble up all those VA employees.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Let me ask u this, are u in favor of abolishing or privatizing social security, education, transportation, the IRS, Center for Disease Control, NASA, OSHA, etc?

            Why not?

          • willbest

            You threw seemingly random things together, I don’t know if there is an overall theme to them other than something government does. I am a Federalist incidentally. So just because I don’t like the Feds doing something, doesn’t mean I care if the States do it.

            Federal government is just there to do a short list of things, and I will allow for a couple others like the EPA and CDC since that is the most efficient place to do those regulations. But OSHA is exceptionally dubious since that works is largely duplicated on the state level anyway.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      You know who wasn’t a socialist?

      This guy: http://ww3.hdnux.com/photos/22/04/71/4738666/3/960×540.jpg

      He found his wealth. One day he was shootin at some food and up through the ground came a bubblin’ crude. Black gold. Texas tea.

      He got no time for that centralized banking talk.

      • Irish Sweetness

        And then Daniel Day-Lewis drank his milkshake …

  • willbest

    I have long suspected that 70% of all legal work could be replaced with AI software. It looks like the Comp Sci guys are starting by replacing their own minions and they will go for there.

    http://www.geekwire.com/2016/ai2-ceo-calls-for-full-disclosure-after-students-discover-their-ta-is-really-an-artificially-intelligent-robot/

    Personally, that seems a little short sighted to me. If you replace all the CS grunts then they can’t develop into tomorrow’s Masters. This would work against the AI revolution. No doubt Skynet is working on a creative way around that speed bump.

  • Cutty Badger

    Guard Cody Whitehair,
    a second-round pick from Kansas State, is known for his strong hands,
    an attribute he began to develop while working on his family’s farm.

    “I threw a lot of hay bales,” said the 6-4, 301-pounder. “Once I went to
    college I didn’t quite get to do it as much, but when I was in high
    school I was always out there at six in the morning. If we had a truck
    driver coming in at 11 o’clock at night, I had to be that guy to help
    out.

    “I just like to be on a farm. I like the outdoors and I like
    to work hard. It’s just what I am, it’s who I am and what I like to
    do.”

    Waffle’s Mantra’s to NFL success are now being tested. Of course he helped out and got death grip strength keeping the family farm running.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Marquis Jackson, Malik’s identical twin brother is in rookie camp with the Bears. I kid you not. 6’4, 280.

    http://espn.go.com/blog/chicago/bears/post/_/id/4702735/malik-jacksons-twin-brother-at-bears-rookie-camp-on-tryout-basis

    • Cutty Badger

      Some of these things are not like the other.
      I wonder where the paths diverged? Malik is a superbowl champ damn near mvp, 42 millie contract and bro is in the arena league

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        Bizarro Malik?

        • Cutty Badger

          Ha

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        which one is the evil twin. they both have mustaches so it’s hard to tell.

      • willbest

        Could be just as simple as Marquis’s mom always calling him Malik or the other way around. That either created the drive, which caused him to make the play (or miss the play) and it snowballed.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    Ugh. Why am I getting bad flashbacks…Mel Tucker…same shell…cover 2…ex coach of jags…

    “Well, the shell of the offense will stay the same,” Loggains said. “It’s been the same since coach John Fox has been a head coach. The language and everything will be the same, but it will evolve like it
    would have if Adam would have been here.” Formerly the offensive coordinator of the Tennessee Titans…

    http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story/_/id/15531972/dowell-loggains-chicago-bears-says-jay-cutler-play-same-offense-last-season

    I know Gase had his shortcomings, but 1st year with scrub WRs, Miller and makeshift Oline didn’t exactly make it easier.

    I just hope this isn’t a Tucker/Tice redux.

    • CanadaBear

      It’s impossible for the Bears to get Tuckered/Ticed again. Isn’t it? Fox is smarter than Lovie when it comes to OC’s and only Emery/Nessman kept Tucker from falling back into the college ranks. If Loggains is as bad as those two, we might as well take a two-year sabbatical from the Bears until another regime is in place.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Plus, isn’t the guy really a musician and not a coach?

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRH063qH16Q

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      Apples and oranges. That was a completely new coaching staff trying to overhaul one side of the ball while keeping the other the same, without any coaching carryover.

      This is the same coaching staff, they just lost somebody to a promotion and promoted from within to replace him. Of course it’s going to stay similar, the guy now running it was also here helping run it last year.

      And, like he says, the offense is the one the HC has run for over a decade. Which was also not true of Trestman’s defense.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        I’m not saying this will absolutely succeed. But there’s a lot of precedent for this type of situation.

        There’s very little precedent for a new coach hiring a DC from the outside on the idea that he has to run the exact same defense the old guy did. That tends to lead to qualified candidates laughing and walking away.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        Then it’s more like the Tice situation being promoted for the sake of “continuity”

        Hope my doubts are assuaged, but…

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Tice was promoted because everyone figured Lovie was in a lame duck year, and no one else wanted the job.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

            Different means, let’s hope different ends…

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          I have said repeatedly that Fox is a white Lovie, and I stand by that, but there is one very key difference between them: Fox has a history of excellent coaching staffs, with guys on both sides of the ball who are well qualified for their job and/or end up doing well enough to get promoted elsewhere. For Lovie, that was only the case on defense, as his offensive staffs were typically awful.

          I’m going to trust Fox on this one, and Loggains has been an OC before (though you could say the same thing about Tice and Tucker).

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Tice was never an OC before.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            Right, he had been a HC though, so it wasn’t like he was overpromoted.

            And Tucker had been a DC in 2 different places before, which still blows my mind.

          • CanadaBear

            Not to mention the second year in an offense should lead to more success.

        • Cutty Badger

          I get a different feeling. There is real talent on that O. This is Loggains chance to fucking make it and i guaranter you hes not going to fuck his career for the sake of continuity. He used interesting phrases to keep continuity but clearly stated the offense would evolve

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    I just realized: Sammy Hagar drives like an asshole

    https://youtu.be/RvV3nn_de2k?t=44

    • CanadaBear

      Gotta love the Red Rocker. The only time I’ve seen him live was with these guys on the same tour (’74). Give him credit, he knows a kickass guitarist when he hears one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk52nGxF-jc

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        He looks so young there. I think that Ronald McDonald outfit he has on with the flying head kick to the judge propels that video into some kind of HOF

        • CanadaBear

          He’s always had a good set of pipes for Rock music. Every decade has some odd fashion choices but the 60’s-70’s were special!!!!!!

  • Rebecca Wofford

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    • madscout12

      Fuck your roommate, Lori. Everyone else has.

  • Cormonster

    I went and seen my buddy;’s band play last night (he’s the bass player). They played their entire new album and it sounded great. This song really caught my ear.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRTrACanua4

    The album is primarily Americana / folk, but they also play blues, soul, funk, rock, etc. Favorite covers of the night were Van Morrison’s Into the Mystic and John Prine’s Angel from Montgomery. The song right after Talking in My Sleep, Hurricane Heart, was a close second.

    • Doc Nitty

      I’m going to listen to this in a minute. You never told me what you thought of the new JJJ album, btw.

    • Doc Nitty

      I liked that a lot. I’ll have check out some more from them.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    After officially announcing the addition of undrafted rookie offensive lineman, Texas State’s Adrian Bellard, the Bears waived second-year defensive back Anthony Jefferson.

  • Doc Nitty

    Bought this for $2300 from a neighbor on Thursday…

    https://imgflip.com/i/146yoc

    Traded it in for 3K on Friday, which I used as a down payment on this….

    https://imgflip.com/i/146yug

    Balls fully Swole. Hick Dreams fully realized. Tremendous Morale boost achieved!

    • beninnorcal

      That’s some serious upgrading, Doc. Nice work and congrats on the new rig.

      • Doc Nitty

        Thx, man. I literally couldn’t sleep on Friday night I was so excited. My first pickup.! I feel about Ford F-Series the way many feel about Harley’s.

        • CanadaBear

          Happy Cat!

          • Doc Nitty

            Fuck jess!!!!!

        • That Guy

          I know what you mean. Never owned a truck myself, but I totally get the appeal. That’s a mans vehicle right there.

        • Cutty Badger

          man shit.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Nice work, Doc!

  • EnderWiggin

    This thread…

    • Cutty Badger

      Won’t end

      • That Guy

        400+ comments is nothing. The real summer doldrums are when we start wondering if we can break 1000 before Jeff gets back from vacation.

        • Cutty Badger

          it’s the pace that is bad on this one though. No one is really posting and we add about 11 posts a day.

          I say let’s get some Guest articles going!

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    Bears third-round pick Jonathan Bullard played right end during rookie minicamp.

    Bullard has experience at defensive tackle, but the Bears
    are viewing him as a five-technique end in base packages. Given the
    team’s personnel, Bullard has a chance to see the field right away.
    Jarvis Jenkins joined the Jets this offseason while Will Sutton and Ego
    Ferguson are both coming off injuries. Mitch Unrein will also be in the
    mix, though he’s better suited as a rotational player. – roto

    • willbest

      I would imagine our first 4 picks will see significant play time.

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