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Notes on a Wild Sunday For the Chicago Bears

| September 5th, 2016

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I didn’t see any of it coming. Any of it. Thoughts.

  • Impossible to suggest the Bears had planned to replace Robbie Gould at the start of the summer. Not when they brought in zero competition for him. But his big misses last season coupled with an incredibly shaky camp/preseason forced the Bears hand. Pace  and Fox know what this team is. They know they’ll need to win close ones. And they simply didn’t trust Robbie any more.
  • That being said, Robbie had a brilliant career in Chicago. Brilliant. Hester-Robbie-Mannelly-Toub is the modern era Mount Rushmore of Bears special teams.
  • Connor “Party On” Barth is a guy. Could be good. Could be shaky. But if the Bears thought this a possibility, why not bring a few kids to camp? I wrote about challenging Robbie this summer LAST FALL. The signs were there. It feels like the front office missed them.
  • I don’t care about Josh Sitton’s back issues. He’s still a damn good player. If the Bears only get one season out of him, that’s fine by me. They have the cash. Why not spend it? The risk/reward is ENTIRELY in Chicago’s column.

  • The ideal scenario is for Sitton to play center but the Bears getting Whitehair work at center now seems like excellent forethought. (Contrary to the Gould situation.) If Whitehair is the center on day one, it may take some time for him to learn the nuances of the position. But by the end of the season, fans will be asking Hroniss who?
  • Logan Paulsen. John Fox kind of player. And that Khari Lee trade was silly when it happened.
  • I know nothing about center Eric Kush but I’m sure there’s more than a few Chicagoans who dabble in a certain narcotic shall be purchasing his jersey if he sticks.
  • This is Jay Cutler’s team. But after receiving his extension, it’s going to be Kyle Long’s locker room.
  • How is Matt Barkley only 25 years old?
  • Pernell McPhee should have never played last December. Don’t feed me the line of bullshit on him not being able to do further damage. He did further damage. Playing football is never a neutral act when it comes to an injury.
  • Ego Ferguson, we hardly knew ye. (Phil Emery’s tenure not improving with time.)

Needless to say, the Bears have raised the excitement level around their opener significantly.

Happy Labor Day. Have a hot dog. No fucking ketchup.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow, what a day. Have to hand it to Pace, Signing Sitton and ditching Robbie is affirmative action.

    Sitton to Center? Whitehair can’t even snap the ball in the shotgun, we’re dead with him at center. Both Edison and Larsen are better than that … but Sitton’s salary has to start. Sit Whitehair and play Sitton at LG, Larsen at Center?

    Just saw we got Kush. Great pickup. Watching him on Hard Knocks I was hoping we’d give him a call.
    We’ll have a center out of this lot, and a good swing guard on the bench.

    this is a good day for the BEars.

    Practice Squad thus far:

    CB DeVante Bausby, TE Ben Braunecker, WR Daniel Braverman, LB John Timu, OT Jason Weaver, RB Senorise Perry

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I understand the both Jeff and your thinking about the Oline. I am of the opinion, just put the best 5 players out there.

      • SC Dave

        Though I agree completely, deciding the “best player” at center is a bit trickier than the other positions.

    • Joecashflow

      At C, start Larson wk1, groom Whitehair. Why take Sitton? BPA. Very nice, in your face, move. You think McCarthy pissed this morning? Hahaha!

      • willbest

        The packers consider him their third best guard. That is why he was cut.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          he was their best OL. They just didn’t want to pay him what he was due.

          • PaceBot 2000

            I’m happy the Bears gave him the extension he wanted. Barring a quick setback with his back this could be a very nice development.
            I don’t care what any pack fan says. This move favors the Bears.

          • willbest

            Well it makes our team better but then we were looking at a very ugly situation on the O-line with zero depth. I am just not convinced it makes the Packers worse.

          • CanadaBear

            Loss of depth for sure. Not unlike the Slauson cut. I think GM’s that have been on the job a long time feel like they can replace almost anyone with little or no dropoff. Of course, they are only fooling themselves. At some point, every GM has a bad stretch and picks some bums.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Don’t care as long as it makes us better. The moment they have an injury it does. They like him just didn’t want to give him a long term extension….and he was pissed about that.

          • EJ Steven

            First, I’m shocked Green Bay has internet access. Second, why are you on a Bears blog? Get a life, bro. Third, if the pack are having some cap issues, it makes sense to cut ties. It is a good signing for the Bears considering the injuries along the front. Let’s just leave it there.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            that is just mean. implying willbest is a packer fan. no matter how much i don’t agree with someone on here I would find it very difficult to insult them like that.

          • EJ Steven

            Please. It was friendly ribbing. Get over it.

          • willbest

            So they went from 10 mil in cap space to about 16 mil. Next year they will have about $30 mil in cap space. They have a couple of their FA’s they are going to want to resign, but there is no Von Miller type contract on the horizon.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s not like they didn’t expect the Bears to be interested.

        • Joecashflow

          True, but it’s also not like they picked up the phone to trade to the Bears. Clearly they would want him out of the division.

    • Captain Obvious

      Edison to PS?
      You gotta think they’ll stash Braverman there. He can’t make the HoF if he’s not a PS hero first.

    • Big Mike

      Sitton to Center is not the obvious best lineup. Center needs time to learn the protection schemes. Edison was cut

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Adios Gould!

  • Joecashflow

    “Woke up this morning with a big smile!” Jay Cutler.

  • Captain Obvious

    Break your fibula. You can still play football and not do further damage. Hurts, but you’re not doing any damage to your leg.

    Ask Ron Rivera.

    • MB30SD

      Or me. Fucking hurts is a biiiit of an understatement

  • TBC

    Fuuuuuuuck that noise

    • PaceBot 2000

      Haha, good morning cheese!

  • Captain Obvious

    Robbie Gould is a champ. It’s too bad his Bears career had to end this way. Whatever went wrong — in his head, in his leg, whatever — he should have recognized it and been able to go out on his own terms. Not as a training camp casualty after the last of the cuts.

    Hester had the same problem. Thought he still had it when he didn’t.

    Mannelly still had it, but gave up rather than keep fighting. He knew when to go, when he could still walk away with his head high.

    But good-bye Robbie. You were awesome for a long time. Thanks for the kicks. Now don’t embarrass yourself by going to another team and scraping by for another year or two. You were a Bear and should only be a Bear.

    • willbest

      Hester has made like 5 million since leaving the bears

    • SC Dave

      It would surprise me if no other team kicks the tires on Robbie. I guess we’ll see what Garth has.

  • PaceBot 2000

    A nice OL and TE pickup. A sad but necessary cut of Robbie. Yes Barth is just a guy but I think that’s what Robbie is now. He was the best.
    Bears just got a whole lot better.

  • Johnnywad

    A single player acquisition making the Bears better and the Packers weaker. I love that. The Cheese are going to struggle with Hicks and Goldman.

    My bold prediction: Vadgers leaves that game with a lacerated uterus.

    • MB30SD

      Ouch. Those really sting… uh… I’ve read, on the innernesses

      • willbest

        Lost in all the hoopla yesterday was this gem

        “big black cock, it’s awesome.” – MB30SD, 2016

        which is oddly topical to the injury above.

        • MB30SD

          It wasn’t lost on me will…. it wasn’t lost on me.

  • Bobby Douglass

    Apropos of nothing, really… but this showed up on my FB ‘Wall of memories’ for today from four years ago. One of my favorite quotes from our esteemed Jeffe:
    Ahhh. Football. But remember folks:
    “Style points in week one are
    the equivalent of good looks in high school. They’re fun to have but
    when you’re going through a second stint in AA after losing your third
    wife, the visible jaw bones in that yearbook photo become nothing more
    than a haunting reminder of what life could have been.” — Jeff Hughes

  • realbearsfan

    I liked Gould he was the best. But it was time!! To move on from him!!!

    • PaceBot 2000

      Trump? Nigerian spammer? Both??

      • willbest

        Gould was the best! But no longer. Time to move on. Forward! #MAGA

  • AlbertInTucson

    “All that glitters is not Gould.”

    • Ososfan

      HAHAHAHA! Im laughing way too much with this!

  • SC Dave

    I like the Mount Rushmore reference, Jeff. It seems unlikely that any of those guys will be replaced for some time (especially Hester), although nothing is set in stone.

    It does sadden a cut that the all-time leading scorer in Bears history is cut so ignominiously. But in the end, only Robbie could have prevented it. And he did not.

    Thanks for the memories, #9.

    Guess I have to buy a new jersey now.

    • CanadaBear

      It was time and my only real concern is POX changing the roster at the last second with no forethought. Why they had no camp competition for Gould is beyond me. You and I are two of his biggest fans and we both knew he was on the downside and possibly going to hell in a handbasket if things started off bad. Overall I think POX have done a decent job but when they over look something they really over look it.

      • Johnnywad

        I think he was probably still the 2016 kicker until the last PS game.

        • CanadaBear

          I’m guessing they asked him to take a pay cut and he said no. I’m still baffled why they had no competition for him this year. Makes no sense.

      • willbest

        The rationale had to be that he just needed to regain his confidence, and bringing in people to compete against him wouldn’t help with that. But come last week, They probably felt they couldn’t wait for that to happen.

        • CanadaBear

          That makes sense but if his confidence is that shaky, all the more reason to get somebody in there. Oh well, the Bears aren’t going anywhere this year so it was as good a time as any to replace him.

  • SC Dave

    “Thank you to the Bears organization, teammates, coaches, and fans. Once a Bear, always a Bear.”
    – Robbie Gould

    • Johnnywad

      Seems like even Robbie is ready for a new chapter. I like the classy exit. I bet business opportunities abound for him in Chicago if he wants them.

      • SC Dave

        He has a lot of charity stuff going on, and has made a pot of money.

        • willbest

          At least his kid is only 3 years old. If I had to move my kids, from some place they had been established for 5+ years, 2 weeks after school started I would be on their shit list for months. Then again, Robbie can afford to buy them a pony, and I can’t.

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  • PaceBot 2000

    When Logan Paulsen got cut I knew we would make a play for him. He was neck and neck with Niles Paul until his injury last year.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Josh Sitton.

    Seems like a no-brainer, No…?

    EXCEPT…

    The history that I can recall of the Bears picking up guys the Packers no longer want is littered with disappointment.

    1970: Bears send their #2 overall pick (The #1 overall was Terry Bradshaw) to GB for C, Bob Hyland ,and OLB, Lee Roy Caffey. Leftovers/has beens from the Lombardi teams, They were both gone after 1 season.

    Packers drafted DT Mike MCoy. He played for 11 seasons, 7 with the Packers.

    A Linebacker the Bears COULD have selected with that pick: Jack “Hacksaw” Reynolds, who the Rams selected later in that first round.

    1971. DB Bob Jeter who had been the corner opposite Herb Adderley on those Lombardi’s teams but the tread was off that tire,too. He lasted 2 full seasons and part of a 3rd. Not sure how they got him.

    1998: Edgar Bennett. Left the Packers as their 9th leading rusher at the time but had been supplanted by Dorsey Levens as the main back. Bennett had the best games of his career against the Bears including all (3?) of his career 100 yard rushing games and a 3 TD game in 1994. I think the Bears signed him as a Free agent.

    He promptly sucked as a Bear for 2 seasons, no doubt because he could no longer play AGAINST the Bears. Of course, his Bear starting QBs included Steve Stenstrom and Moses Moreno.

    So, pardon me if I wait to celebrate this signing.

    • willbest

      Sure but then you have to remember that we were starting fresh fish Whitehair, Larsen, and injured Long being backed up by Silatolu and Edison.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Which won’t make any difference if Sitton turns out to be damaged goods.

    • PaceBot 2000

      Sorry al, history in this case is not applicable

      • willbest

        Well of course Pacebot would think that.

      • AlbertInTucson

        History is ALWAYS applicable.

        “Those who don’t know history are doomed to repeat it.” -Edmund Burke

        • CanadaBear

          That’s great and all but the Bears getting screwed over by bad signings from a million years ago don’t hold a lot of water in this case.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Just sayin’, the history is not good.

            The last time the Bears got somebody good from the Packers was….?

          • PaceBot 2000

            Yesterday.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Neither of us knows that, yet.

          • Ososfan

            im going to have to agree with Pacebot, but you bring up a very good point sir, your opinions always carry weight over here

          • AlbertInTucson

            On the other hand…

            Once upon a time, The Vikings thought Alan Page was washed up and dumped him.

            The Bears scooped HIM up, with great success, as he started 58 games for them.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Es verdad

          • Johnnywad

            LOL

          • CanadaBear

            I’m with ya on the history just don’t think it applies here. Different people running the franchises and lots more info about players than the old days. The Beloved were unbelievably inept back in those days.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Glyn Milburn made the Pro Bowl 2 years after the Bears traded for him from the the Pack, although Milburn never actually played a regular season game for the Packers.

          • AlbertInTucson

            True.

            I did not include him because he never actually played a down for them.

            He actually set some team return marks that stood until Hester arrived.

        • PaceBot 2000

          Yeah, just not in this case.

    • madscout12

      It doesn’t matter if he sucks for 3 years…he won’t be here for 3 years if that’s the case. We got rid of a kicker who’s done to get him, and gave up cap space we weren’t using for him. We’ve signed the players, minus Alshon, that we’re going to sign in the next year. So if he doesn’t work out this year, he’s cut and we move on a few Mil poorer. The McCaskeys can afford it.

    • EJ Steven

      Thanks for the completely irrelevant analysis.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Fuck off

        • AlbertInTucson

          Don’t feed them. You know I never do.

        • EJ Steven

          Keep crying. The analysis was totally irrelevant. So… You can … Well, fuck off yourself baby boy. I am not trolling. The take is irrelevant. What the Bears do now has nothing to do with selective history. Sorry you are offended.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          watch what you say to EJ he seems to be a little sensitive.

  • willbest

    And JJ Watt is practicing today, so anything that makes our line stronger is much appreciated.

  • willbest

    Boys are still debating keeping Romo on the active roster… which makes little sense to me if he isn’t going to play for 6 weeks at a min.

    • AlbertInTucson

      If they PUP him, he has to sit for 8 weeks.

      • willbest

        Wood corrected me the other day, it is IR designated to return since he was in camp, and you only get 1 of those.

        But their bye is in week 6. So if he comes back week 9, he is only missing 7 games. I guess maybe they feel he can get back by week 7 after their bye and only miss 5 games.

        But at 5-0, 4-1, 1-4, and 0-5 you aren’t going to rush Romo back. So really is the 2-3 win record where you need him to get in there and put it away.

    • BerwynBomber

      That is all about Jerra. He loves to push Romo out there early even if the latter is far from healed. It makes little sense but for that.

    • BearDown100393

      Jerry Jones is AL Davis without a track suit.

      • MB30SD

        Pretty sure here’s busts out the tracksuit… at least erra sunday

  • willbest

    Bears cut LS Aaron Brewer and signed LS Patrick Scales, in a move I am sure is completely unrelated to the Gould termination.

    • SC Dave

      Did Scales snap for Garth?

  • willbest

    So it isn’t just another world power getting in on the act… a US protectorate is going to town on Obama

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/afp/article-3774386/Philippines-Duterte-calls-Barack-Obama-son-whore.html

    People think Trump is mean and nasty, but clearly he is going to need to up his game if he is going to compete with Pacific Rim leaders.

    • CanadaBear

      Obama is in good company. The same guy called the Pope a son of whore.

      • willbest

        Maybe, but these days “Is the pope catholic?” is an actual question.

        • CanadaBear

          Being a recovering catholic, this is the first pope in my lifetime that actually cares about the poor and seems like a genuinely good person.

          • willbest

            You mean unlike that John Paul guy that helped to fight the spread of communism?

          • CanadaBear

            You can go down the list since I was a kid and not one of them has ever made helping the poor a priority until PF took over. Lots of lip service but that’s about it.

          • willbest

            You and I have very different definitions of helping the poor. John Paul was fighting the systems that keep people impoverished. Francis just wants to hand the poor people fish. And in point of fact, he is out there attacking man made CO2, which is positively correlated with being rich.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hoe does that “2400 Lives Claimed” there compare with Chicago?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Chicago passed the 2,000 mark in shooting victims this year (not all fatalities) back around July 4th.

    • BearDown100393

      The next natural disaster in the Phillipines can be ignored.

  • BerwynBomber

    Wad hits the nail on the head:

    “A single player acquisition making the Bears better and the Packers weaker. I love that. The Cheese are going to struggle with Hicks and Goldman.”

    The division is very winnable. All of our rivals have at least as many questions marks, if not more or larger ones, than we do. It is going to be a very interesting season.

    • CanadaBear

      I don’t see the Bears being more than a .500 team this year. Pretty sure the Fudgies will have a better record than that. If Bradford pans out the BiQueens can make the playoffs. I don’t see any scenario where the Beloved make the playoffs.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Canada I think your acct was hacked by a longtime Bears fan.

        • CanadaBear

          Hope all my negativity is unwarranted.

          • MB30SD

            Me too

      • BerwynBomber

        Ye of little faith. Cheese have major questions marks at OL, DL and ILB; in fact, ILB seems an issue for them every year.

        Bradford, to me, is all about “potential”, but in reality he is a fragile guy with so-so numbers who have never made the post-season.

        • CanadaBear

          That’s why they play the games! Hope you’re right and I’m all wet. I’m starting to have less and less faith in POX. I’m sure a few wins would help that out!

          • BerwynBomber

            Why? Because of the lack of Robbie forethought? I think your criticism there is valid but so far Pace’s drafts look pretty solid in terms of depth.

            Fox and Fangio are old pros. They will be steady. Only concern I have is that we might miss Gase more than we suspected. Still, the improved the D may be able to compensate for that loss. And hell maybe K. White can too.

          • CanadaBear

            I’m really struggling with these guys. I like Fox for his ability to attract good coaches but overall he’s a pretty avg HC and those flat starts are maddening. Pretty sure they will miss Gase. Nathan Lane isn’t giving me a warm fuzzy. Like someone brought up a few days ago, when was the last time we kept a coach or system to help out with continuity and it actually worked out? The mess that is the DB situation, the OL in constant flux, not one reliable TE and the RB’s may or may not be able to replace Forte, that’s a lot of questions to be answered. Who knows? Maybe Fox was playing possum all PS and the O kicks ass. Let’s hope.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I didn’t think old people got cranky and pessimistic until they had a hip replaced. I guess all it takes is a knee. Go take one of those nice pain pills they gave you and you will feel better.

          • MB30SD
          • CanadaBear

            Trust me the pain pills are pretty wimpy. If anything, that should help me get through this period. So far, not so good!

          • willbest

            Don’t judge Nathan Lane by Mel Tucker

          • MB30SD

            We said we’d never post that name here again

          • Ososfan

            haha!!

        • BearDown100393

          Soldier Field will take care of Bradford

          • Ososfan

            OMG, LOL!

      • MB30SD

        Canada!!! Yeeesh!

        Come on man!

        • CanadaBear

          I’m trying but I’m not convinced. A few wins would help a lot. I just keep seeing the Beloved coming out flatter than an iron skillet and I’m afraid what we saw in preseason by the O is what we get.

          • MB30SD

            Hold judgment till game 3 man… because doing anything else is just guessing

          • willbest

            Nah… if Thompson doesn’t return the opening kickoff for a TD, season is a bust.

          • SC Dave

            I’ll remember this.

          • MB30SD

            Please do. If we suck by then, I’ll jump in your, everything nit from the 2006 season sucks and we’re the Browns bandwagon my maings

          • Big Mike

            CB, the preseason doesn’t mean shit. Shouldn’t even be televised. They’re scrimmages.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree but I’m referring to all the slow starts last season. There were at least 3-4 games where they came out sleep walking and were down by 2 scores before I even got settled in.

          • Big Mike

            He was trying to figure out how his JV squad could beat a Varsity team. Those games that had slow start featured WRs not in the league, on special teams, or on practice squads.

          • MB30SD

            FUCKING JEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS!!!

          • CanadaBear

            The D was just as flat as the O at the start of games. You can still try to weave some magic while coming out fired up.

          • Big Mike

            That’ll happen when you belong on special teams or the practice squad and you’re facing the varsity. I see quicker starts in general.

      • BearDown100393

        Bears run the table
        16-0

  • AlbertInTucson

    MY FF draft begins in just over a hour.

    • PaceBot 2000

      Take cutty and alshon!

      • MB30SD

        …and langy!

        • PaceBot 2000

          Don’t give away my strategy tonight

          • MB30SD

            Hahahhaa… get braverman in the 4th!!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Not bloody likely, Mate.

        • MB30SD

          Hahahaha

          • AlbertInTucson

            Drafting 4th of 8, , I took Odell Beckham, Jrf with my #1 and Cam Newton with my #2.

          • PaceBot 2000

            I thought we agreed on cutty and alshon.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Would you believe they were gone by time I chose…?

          • AlbertInTucson

            Alshon DID go in the 2nd round,16th pick overall.

            I WAS interested in adding Langford to my stable but he went as the 78th.

            I also consider White as my final pick but figured I’d jinx him.

            Took Martellus as my last guy.

          • MB30SD

            Sounds like a good day

  • CanadaBear

    “I’m sure there’s a well thought through and hashed out plan behind that decision… and every other one they’ve made.”

    Kyle to RT and firing Robbie, both at the last minute, with no other options on the roster doesn’t strike me as well thought out. It really has nothing to do with Robbie getting cut but how they seemingly cut him with no option B in place. Oh well.

    • MB30SD

      You really think those were last minute Canada? Really?? You think they’re just firing from the hip without any forethought?

      Sorry, i just can’t see that. This is a billion dollar org with heavy media scrutiny and pace’s first gig…. I find that hypothesis heavy flawed my main Canadian maingses

      • CanadaBear

        You didn’t think moving Long to RT after pre-season was less than well thought out? Same with Robbie and no kicker on the horizon. Maybe I’m too hard on them but both decisions seem to have been made with a gun to their heads because there were no other viable options.

        • MB30SD

          You move your best player to the weakest position on that unit to see if he can make the jump and instantly massively upgrade that unit. Seems totally logicial to me. As for robbie, see will’s assessment above (below?), which also seems like solid logic to me.

          Robbie was set to lose us multiple games this year. You simply can’t think of him as old robbie, he’s not that guy anymore

          • CanadaBear

            I didn’t. Like most on here I was genuinely worried that Robbie had lost it and was hoping he would re-find his mojo. But even being one of his biggest fans on the blog, I thought it was stupid not to bring in competition. Either way, we’re just pissing in the wind and we’ll find out more in a hurry.

          • SC Dave

            The move of Long to RT was stupid, and I said so at the time.

            Just leave perennial All-Pros where they are.

          • MB30SD

            Dave, you have my vote when you turn in your resume to Halas my main grumpy maingses!

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      shit happens sometimes.

      Kyle to RT was based on need. Injuries and ineffectiveness pushed for that move. Not ideal, but the shit show of talent left on the team from those who shall not be named was a big reason for this.

      As far as Gould, I do agree that we should have had another leg in camp, however camp is limited to 90, a lot more pressing needs out there to evaluate. I think POX decided to bring in an extra DB or OL to evaluate, knowing a “decent” kicker would be available after cuts if needed.

      • MB30SD

        Agree. Kicker, like specials, just wasn’t and aren’t going to be the game winners they were for us in the past… that’s been old history for a few years already. We need to start looking forward not constantly back

    • BerwynBomber

      “Kyle to RT and firing Robbie, both at the last minute, with no other options on the roster doesn’t strike me as well thought out.”

      Valid criticisms but the good still outweighs the bad with the new regime.

      • CanadaBear

        I agree with that but after the PE/Nessman shit show the only way to go was up. I do like the way Pace seems relentless bringing in guys to improve the roster but I’m still not convinced he’s drafted all that well and Fox is beginning to strike me as an old coach that has lost his fastball.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, we sometimes give POX too much credit because of the low bar set by PE/Trestman, and I also think Gase was way undervalued on here by mid-season last year, but the latter is a topic for another time.

          • Big Mike

            Jeez, didn’t we just swoop in and land Sitton. Didn’t we storm free agency and get the two best ILBs on the market?

          • MB30SD

            Yep

          • BerwynBomber

            In fairness, CB did acknowledge (positively) how aggressive Pace has been in free agency.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Yes we fucking did sir

          • Big Mike

            Amen.

          • willbest

            I tend to think if Gase were given more lattitude to run the offense we would have 2 more wins. I will be looking at Miami’s offense to confirm my hypothetical in lieu of an alternate universe machine.

          • BearDown100393

            The deep threat was compromised by injuries

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            all receiving threats were compromised by injuries

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, the O went in a shell in OT games last year. And I attributed that more to Fox’s philosophy than Gase’s playcalling.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          I don’t think Fox ever had a fastball. But he is what the team needed at the time. We needed a coaching staff that had stability and respectability. After having a pinhead micromanaging HC that players did not respect, an OC that threw players under a bus, a DC that made Bubba from Forest Gump look like a genius, we needed stability and that is what Fox brought us. Here is hoping he still has the ability to bring a team to the SB.

          • Big Mike

            Turning over the roster takes time. We’re in year 2. I was not embarrassed to be a Bears fan last year. We competed. Had a little run in the middle to make it interesting. Beat GB on Thanksgiving. Played a few very close games against good teams. We had 6 wins with one of the tougher schedules in the league.

            Second year of rebuild, we added a considerable amount of young talent on defense. Our front 7 is in place for a few years and should be near the top of the league. Our secondary, which is our big concern, isn’t really worse than last year is it? Just not as good as we want it to be.

            Whether it is fate, fortune or design, Pace was patient with his cap money and BOOM, Sitton. We know have 2 of the best guards in the league and a rookie who is going to be a stud in Whitehair. I’m all about throwing him in at Center, between the 2 pro-bowlers. Leno’s getting better and will be good. Massie will also be fine.

            So the OL is coming along. We’ve got three young backs, a solid QB.

            Add another year of the same type of upgrades and this team is competing deep into the playoffs.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            We need that transcendent rusher on the D. That’s like the last missing piece.

            A stud S or CB would be a luxury, but we need that stud rusher.

          • Big Mike

            Which is why we drafted Floyd. Don’t know if he’ll be that guy, but that’s the hope, right.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            I was hoping we’d keep Gase and promote him over Fox eventually. Best of both worlds. Bring back that stability AND have an up an comer steer the new team for years to come.

            Guess not. Now if we get rid of Fox next year, the rebuild will start again.

      • Johnnywad

        Nobody bats a thousand.

    • Big Mike

      Kyle to RT was a game time decision. Meaning after the preseason game, they said oh fuck we can’t go with that set up.

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree with that but why not have competition throughout camp?

        • Big Mike

          They were giving the reps to the guy they thought would play there. When it turned out he sucked, they didn’t have a choice.

          • CanadaBear

            They had ample reasons to doubt Robbie’s effectiveness going into camp. Either way, we’ll know more by this time next week!

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

          That part totally baffled me Canada.
          Some of their moves are very suspect.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I find it refreshing that POX is willing to make last minute changes. POX is fighting history. For years the Bears GMs and Coaches came out and would talk up players that did not deserve to be on any team, and they would stick with that “player” no matter how bad it was. They would come out weekly and say things like “Rex is our QB” or “Webb will be alright”, or “Hester is a #1 WR”. I could go on but it is too depressing. We are now witnessing a GM and Coach that is willing to say this isn’t working what can we do to make it better. That is something we haven’t seen in over a decade.

      • CanadaBear

        I agree with all that but Lovie’s teams came out flat 1-2 games/year. Fox had at least 3 or 4 last year. The other team comes out, marches down the field with almost no resistance, The Beloved go 3 and out about 4 times in a row and we’re into the second quarter down two scores. Maddening.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          I will give you the offenses slow starts are maddening and it was even more crazy because of our defense. I don’t believe it is fair to compare to a Lovie team. Lovie’s teams had defenses that had talent on them. Do you remember who our starting ILBs were last year? Hell our defense lacked so much we all got excited by a guy named Prosinski towards the end of the year. I don’t think teams will be marching down the field so easily this year.

          • CanadaBear

            I hope so. I was excited about Callahan. Prosinski, not so much.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Callahan works also, Last year we got excited by the shiniest turds!

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            white safety!

            I think Conte has forever cursed that mold.

        • BerwynBomber

          Last year? Really, CB? That was definitely a trademark of Trestman’s second year but I kinda recall our O moving the ball fairly well from the opening kick last year.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

          yeah, and that’s on Fox going back to Denver.

          Horseteeth said as much, that they came out flat or unprepared.

          Hope that trend doesn’t continue. it was especially maddening at Soldier Field.

          Sucked the life right out of the crowd.

      • MB30SD

        Jeeeeeees!!!

      • SC Dave

        Only when it’s not “their guy”. When they cut their questionable acquisitions I’ll immediately grant your point.

        Right now, I’m still in “show me” mode.

        Of course, I’m a bit biased against them since they ditched my two favorite Bears this off-season.

        • MB30SD

          Your last paragraph X 100 dave.

          You gotta let go of that shit man. It’s not 2006 any more… you sound like an ex who got cheated on and now erra time one of us gals starts talking about cute boys you bring out tour ball crusher and dick choppers.

          Great visual huh?

          • SC Dave

            No, that’s not it. I just have not swallowed the Pox hype. After all, last year’s team only won a single game more than the year before.

            And this year’s team has yet to play a game.

            Show me.

          • MB30SD

            Agree, that’s always the xase… right

      • DaMurph

        Havent seen since Ditka/ Vanisi era.

  • willbest

    The switch from Brewer to Scales is evidence that they intended to roll with Robbie on Saturday, but when they saw that the Saints cut Brath, they decided to go that way instead.

    That was probably Fox’s decision because he worked with Brath in Denver 2 years ago and Pace was probably thinking why not save $2.5 million this year.

    • MB30SD

      Right, so a very strategic pivot based on a new environment and material mitigating factors… not just a fucking knee jerk reaction after waking up on the wrong side of the bed.

      Agreed

      • Big Mike

        Of course. Sometimes people don’t realize that a guy like Pace studies this shit intently. Gould’s kickoffs were meh, his make percentage was declining. He missed extra points in the pre-season. So when a better guy is available and you could put nearly $2m in cap space in your pocket, off you go.

        • MB30SD

          Dis

          • SC Dave

            Whatever reinforces your biases, eh? Truth is, we have no idea.

          • MB30SD

            Agree

  • CanadaBear

    After all the roster changes, injuries, etc, did anybody change their prediction for this season? I’m still at 8-8 but I’m more inclined than ever to move down from that. If Nathan Lane really is Nathan Lane, it could be scary bad.

    • BerwynBomber

      I’m going 9-7. (I also think our sked looks favorable.)

      Btw, if we don’t compete for the playoffs it will be, IMV, a huge disappointment. The Fox/Fangio honeymoon is over. Time to deliver.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      nope mine hasn’t changed 16-0.

    • Big Mike

      I don’t know what you guys are looking at. Forte, Bennet and Slauson are missing. Sitton is better than Slauson. Alshon, White, Royal is better than what the Bears put out there every week last year. RG long is better than RT Long. Leno’s getting better not worse. Massie is fine. So we’ve got a question mark at Center. Plenty of talent for the job, just inexperience.

      First I’ll address Bennet… So what. Zach Miller’s fine. Depth is hurt. No need for panic. Forte, A Bears Legend. Everyone talks about his massive amount of yardage. Did you ever wonder if he got a lot of those yards last year because Cutler’s option were Forte or the JV? Or that we were down 3-4 scores? So losing Forte hurts, but its not the huge downgrade everyone is projecting.

      Defensively? We saw Fangio hold some good teams in check last year with a defense made up of players who didn’t make this years team, practice squad players and guys who are now special teamers and backups.

      • MB30SD

        JEEEEEEESSSSS!!!!

      • CanadaBear

        When I look at it that way I see the logic and that’s the only reason I’m at 8-8.

      • BerwynBomber

        We seem to freak out every year over the O-line (my theory is it dates back four or five years ago when it was an utter disaster). But we were by a decisive margin the best passing block O-line in the division last year. Moreover, I subscribe to the theory that if you have 3/5 of a good O-line you’re in the top half of O-line rankings in the NFL. And we have that in Long, Sitton and Leno. Hell, look at the Cheese. They will have one quality OL to begin the season: Lang. That’s it. And I don’t want to hear about Bachtieri. I think he led the league in holding calls last year.

        Our weakest unit is our secondary, but imagine if both Fuller and Porter are healthy. Are they that far behind, if at all, any other tandem of CBs in our division?

        We were spoiled for years with our STs so I don’t expect the second comings of Hester or Robbie there, but hopefully we’re at least competent.

        I think this team is well-rounded and poised for a run. I suspect the losses of Forte and Bennett will hurt BUT they will be compensated by other units. And in Forte’s case, a three-back system (Langford, Carey and Howard) might even result in an improvement compared to the older Forte. At least in terms of overall rushing.

        • BearDown100393

          Called JWebbitis

        • Big Mike

          Therefore 9 wins, in the hunt for a spot. If they catch a break, stay injury free 10 wins. Special Teams are going to be very good defensively. We’ve got playmakers on that unit. Whitehair is going to be a stud. I’ve been saying it since the draft.

          You could be right about RB by committee

    • BearDown100393

      Cutler’S new Omaha will be Birdcage

    • willbest

      I think my legitimate prediction was 10 wins, I still like them for 10 wins. I probably feel better about it with Sitton than I did before.

      • MB30SD

        I’m in for 9-7 if we’re lucky with injuries. More if some shit breaks our way finally

  • MB30SD

    Mike, MBP, who else is with usssss… ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

  • BearDown100393

    Bucs or Ravens for Gould?

    • willbest

      Well considering, the Ravens tagged Tucker this year and signed him to a 4-year $17 million deal, and that he has never missed a PAT, has a career long of 61 yards, and has only missed once inside the 50 in the last two years… I am going to say not them.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, Tucker’s arguably the best kicker in the league.

    • MB30SD

      Dooon’t caaaaaare

    • willbest

      Oh and you know Lovie isn’t in Tampa anymore. Its UofI and I don’t think Robbie has any eligibility left.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        U of I fans will soon be wishing Lovie didn’t have eligibility left either.

        • MB30SD

          Exactly. Just do football a favor and fucking retire you shit samich

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I live within range of Champaign radio stations and to hear some of the radio ads to get people to buy tickets because Lovie is the coach makes me laugh.

          • MB30SD

            Poor bastards

          • AlbertInTucson

            They DID destroy Murray State.

      • willbest

        oh and thinking about Tampa I realized they spent a 2nd rounder on their Kicker this year. I thought you were retreading Gould’s former head coaches, but you could have been making a joke about the two least likely places for him to end up.

        Poe’s Law.

    • PaceBot 2000

      Bucs drafted kicker in Rd 2. If they bring in Gould management should just pack up their bags now.

  • BearDown100393

    Kickers tend to go bust and reincarnate somewhere else. Gould will probably be just fine. Nature of the position.

    • BerwynBomber

      Robbie will be picked up by someone by mid-year. Division-wise, wouldn’t be shocking if DET took a long look at him. Can’t remember what Prater did last year, but he was VERY dicey for them two years ago.

      • EnderWiggin

        I was thinking more like mid-week.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Needs a dome

      • AlbertInTucson

        Praeter was 22 of 24 with a long of 59 for Detroit last season.

        • PaceBot 2000

          Yes, he was coming off that dui. He recovered nicely. Jesus, some guys just can’t stop drinking

    • MB30SD

      Dooooonnn’ttttt caaaaaaarrrreeeee

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      my guess is he will eventually get a chance with the Saints, they seem to swap kickers often.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Robbie needs a dome at this point.

  • willbest

    Wentz will start for the Eagles apparently. And Bradford for the Vikings. Then again it isn’t hard to hand off to AP 2/3rds of the time.

    • BerwynBomber

      Figured Wentz would get the ball. The days of grooming a rookie QB are over unless a competent/decent starter stands in front of him. And that ain’t Chase Daniels.

  • willbest

    Man… if you can’t trust the Amish… who you can you trust

    http://the-daily-record.com/local%20news/2016/09/04/75-arrested-for-underage-drinking

    • MB30SD

      Never trust people without pockets… wait… that might be the Quakers

  • willbest

    Also, Dead or Alive series has angered progs because their VR addition allows you to “sexually harass” virtual girls.

    http://www.oneangrygamer.net/2016/09/dead-or-alive-xtreme-3-vr-triggers-journalists-into-calling-it-sexual-assault/10846/

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      About Time! I love ‘sexually harassing’ virtual girls.

      • willbest

        virtual or virtuous?

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          those too.

      • MB30SD

        Haven’t you been able to do this is GTA since v1?

        • willbest

          I think it was Vice City. The series kind of sucked before 3.

          • MB30SD

            I only played once. I’m much more of a fps guy

          • PaceBot 2000

            No my friend. Vice city was the second awesome one. Gta 3 was the revolution.

    • SC Dave

      Oh gawd… what will they be offended by next?

  • Ososfan

    Been dying every time I read Al’s “All that glitters isn’t Gould.” quote haha. SO souped with these moves even though Gould will be missed….somewhat….for his glory days and all… Jay Cutler should be Sitton the NFC North crown this year! BEAR DOWN!!!

    • SC Dave

      Robbie was just a shade under his career average last season. Let’s hope Garth can bring it

      • PaceBot 2000

        Dave your willingness to disregard game saving or game winning kicks that Robbie missed over the last few years is troubling.

        • SC Dave

          While I’m too lazy to look it up, how many game saving or winning kicks did he MAKE over the same period? Do you know?

          • AlbertInTucson

            “That was then. This now.”

            I neveronce posted “Cut him”.

            To the contrary, I sang the “Veteran Kickers Often Bounce Back” song all off-season but, let’s face it, Robbie didn’t do anything in PS to inspire confidence that he was about to bounce back.

          • SC Dave

            I’m not arguing that, Al. In fact, I stated that only Robbie could have kept his spot, and he didn’t.

            Regarding that “that was then.. ” part, you note I asked about “the same period”, so I’m not sure what your point is there.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I was referencing the “How many game saving or winning…” comment.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Since 2013? I will check. Robbie was the man but everything ends at some point and we lost at least 4 or 5 just in the last 2yrs.
            I could look it up but someone at Halas obviously already did.

  • PaceBot 2000

    11-5 and a new steakhouse for cutty

    • MB30SD

      Haha

    • willbest

      I was always partial to Cutty’s Cuts.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Cutler 6 with partial proceeds going to type 1 pediatric diabetes.

        Special of the day
        12oz Bone in Filet
        No hormones, organic, grass fed, neither massaged nor treated well by anyone, left alone to dry age until perfect. Whether you fucking like it or not. The meat just doesn’t fucking care what you think.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          And the Cows were definitely not given any vaccines for any cow diseases because they cause autism.

          • PaceBot 2000

            No one wants to eat fucking autistic cows.

          • SC Dave

            Haha

          • BearDown100393

            Mad Cow Disease

        • SC Dave

          Cooked to live cow temp on the inside, and only slightly higher towards the seared outside.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    I simply cannot call a number of wins this year.

    I’ve lived long enough and learned enough to know that 80% of it is what happens in that locker room, the character of these guys cast together and who cares and who doesn’t. What I saw under Trestman was a bunch of guys happy to pick up a paycheck and not risk long term injury knowing the Bears were the last stop before washing out or buying a fishing boat and retiring.

    What is needed is a culture that cares about earning, but also getting it done. Gambling. Stretching ones physical ability and maybe even risking the length of the career by playing all out now. To do that, the whole locker room has to believe there is a possibility of a ring. I believe now, in today’s show up or get out NFL, with so much turnover, that the ONLY way a player stops playing for his own career and plays for his team mates is some belief that by doing so there is a payoff in being greater than the sum of the parts. Seeing 85 Bears still getting endorsements should help this, but I think in large part the way the 2006 Bears were discarded by Chicago fans undid much of that. For a town that loves the team that wins it all, I think it was especially dismissive of a team that fell short because Lovie wouldn’t listen to Ron Rivera.

    So – all I can say is this: a sub .500 team is going to continue down the dismantlement road. If they suck, the dismantlement will keep happening, like a scientist on a workbench who knows the whole robot needs to be rethought and retooled again. George did that: he called in Accorsi and they threw the losers out and started with who they thought were the best and brightest. If this team cannot perform – it may be another decade. Ginny will die. It could be a cautionary tale to tell people about how an organization goes wrong, a Schwinn case study at HBS.

    9-7 and a wildcard is something. If White shows up, it’s something. I honestly do not know, this is a company that has had a bankruptcy and complete wipe out of the board. We could be 2-14 and we could we 14-2. The experts say 7-9 or 6-10. I hold no stock in them; the modern NFL is too volatile to predict story lines any more. Nobody had Denver winning the Super Bowl last year against Carolina.

    So let’s see how the team can play when it counts. A patchwork OL, you can make it work on bread and butter. I think Nathan Lane might be a shitbird and we miss Gase badly. I just do not know.

    • PaceBot 2000

      Look at the guys they brought on who have bought in. Out inside backers are pit Bulls. Our olb’s are pit Bulls and know what it’s like to almost lose it to injury. Young got respected this off-season and he will deliver. Houston is old Houston now fucking Raiders Houston.
      Our qb is a warrior. Our running backs will die for a first down. Our TE is fucking beloved by the team. The D line has swag. The safeties are young and far from rich and need to make a name. Our O line are complete animals now. Our fullback is a new Zealand rugby player and our goal line fullback is 6’4 300.
      They told old and entitled to fuck off, young and cancerous to pound sand on another team and what we are left with are fucking Bears. 11-5 playoffs and who knows what else.

      • RenoBear

        Damn right! Gimme that look-aid laced with straight facts! Boom bitches!

      • SC Dave

        This. Loss the Panthers in NFC title as prelude to 7 championships in 10 years.

        Well, assuming that we find ourselves miracle Otto Graham. Even if it takes two guys.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

        I feel like invading Germany now for some reason.

        • willbest

          According to the German plebs that just gave Merkel the bird its already been invaded.

    • Wagga Wagga

      “Nobody had Denver winning the Super Bowl last year against Carolina'”

      The guy that dropped 600K in Vegas on the Panthers must have agreed with you. Vegas anyone? wink…wink…

      http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/someone-just-dropped-a-600k-bet-on-the-panthers-to-win-super-bowl-50/

    • SC Dave

      Great post. But GP, you have been a team sports guy. I hope that the part about playing for your teammates trumps all the rest. Have to think it was part of what kept Megatron going.

      It certainly had to be more than a LIONS paycheck….

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

      I was calling out the plays for some of the PS games. I mean, it’s only PS, but I hope to gawd that doesn’t continue. Every time we keep a coordinator for the sake of “consistency” we get fucked in the ass.

      Everything else, who knows?

      We doubled down on 16 and somehow hit Sutton.

      we escaped PS with no major inj except McPhee which was a continuation from last season.

      Another year in the system. More talent. Fangio.

      How could we NOT post a better record? If we don’t win 8, something is VERY wrong

      (And if it’s Nathan Lane, wow, I feel bad for Cutty).

      We need to get off to a good start. Bears more than other teams. Cards, Hawks, Pats can go 2-2, but we must start off with a bang to sorta build some momentum, change the loser culture, and make the locker room believe.

      We have a soft schedule, so no excuses.

      GET. ER. DONE.

      • PaceBot 2000

        We are starting 4-0 and that is not even being a Homer. That’s just being a realist. This is the season.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Next season, chips.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I gave up predicting records.

      My mantra about the NFL used to be that it’s “Week-to-week”.

      I was being too optimistic.

      It’s day-to-day.

      One day you’re poised to contend for title and the next day your starting QB’s knee explodes in a non-contact drill at practice SO horrifically that teammates are barfing their guts out and/or crying and you scramble to find another starting QB because you’re not even sure your guy will ever suit up again.

    • beninnorcal

      8 wins, with a chance for more.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’ve gone from 6-10 to 9-7 within two weeks.

  • willbest

    Forsett back on the Ravens…

  • willbest

    Daniel Craig is reportedly being offered $150 million to do two more Bond movies. I wish I could be in a place in my life where turning down $10 million dollars a week to work would be something I would consider doing.

    • BearDown100393

      Pox: cut him

      • PaceBot 2000

        And don’t have an actor lined up 6 days before shooting

        • BearDown100393

          Somebody will be cut from another film. Use him instead. BTW the guy playing Escobar needs work.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Don’t fucking give away season 2!!!!

          • BearDown100393

            Lol shouldn’t surprise anyone but alright

      • SC Dave

        Pox? Figured hbp…

    • PaceBot 2000

      His bond movies are the fucking best. Craig is the perfect combo of suave and vicious without being cheesy. Brosnan could have been awesome except that it was the 90s and the 90s were super cheese gay.

      • SC Dave

        Agree. Craig is the best Bond. Connery could have been, but the sensibilities of the time did not allow them to adequately portray the ruthless side.

        • MB30SD

          My god, you are all about blasphemy both ways!!!!

          How daaaaaaaare yoooouuu!

          • SC Dave

            The opening of the Craig Casino Royale is the greatest intro of
            James Bond filmed to date, and by a huge margin. A savage drowning in a public bathroom, followed with a cold-blooded assassination in a penthouse office. Perfect.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            I thought it set the tone for the reboots masterfully.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Craig is SUCH a good POS son of Paul Newman in ROAD TO PERDITION.

            The scene where he finally gets his is sublime.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The last scene also reinforces the”I’m here to kill you” theme.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Sean was pretty cold-blooded in DR. NO.

          Just to pass some time, he hoodled the attractive oriental enemy agent who was setting him up to be assassinated before he turned her over to the cops. Then, after the failed attempt on his life, he baited the killer into grabbing what Bond knew was an empty revolver and proceeded to calmly execute Strangways at point blank range including a shot or two just to make sure it was fatal.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Fuck yes he did AL. Cold-blooded and focused…..just how I like my qb’s.

          • Cormonster

            Kind of like Walker, Texas Ranger.

          • AlbertInTucson

            My wife got to watching WALKER reruns. I only half watched.

            After a while, it seemed like the female lead, the lovely Sheree J. Wilson, was being stalked/threatened/kidnapped about every 3rd episode or so.

          • SC Dave

            … had to think about it for a while to recollect that talentless fool’s name. Chuck Norris sucks.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, and the train scene with the blond Russian in whatever movie that was. I read that they had to re-shoot and/or edit the original scene because it was considered too violent to have in a film.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Now that I’m older, DR. NO and FROM RUSSIA WITH LOVE have moved much higher on my list of Bond favorites. Less gimmicky.

            Robert Shaw as Red Grant. I was bummed when he killed Karim Bey (Pedro Armendariz).

      • Irish Sweetness

        NTTAWWT.

  • EnderWiggin

    So, is Butch going to let us draft a 4th QB this year? With 10 teams and 2 QBs starting, I ‘d think some of us drafting a 4th could be relevant.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

      Since it’s only 10 teams I was debating it.

      But I’ll keep it as is for now.

      • PaceBot 2000

        When’s the draft? Next week during the first game? How do I sign up is it hard? I dont think have enough time but I can spend 5 hours a week on a blog.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

          Tonight! 11pm Eastern!
          Get your nanoprobes ready

          • PaceBot 2000

            Don’t probe me broker, cutty and alshon til I die.

  • SC Dave

    Drinking a Westbrook, and finishing off Chernow’s “Alexander Hamilton” (incidentally, a great biography of probably the second most brilliant American after Franklin, and arguably equal to Ben), I glance at the TV and see fantasy QB ranks from NFL.com.

    1 Vadgers
    2 Newton
    …. (who cares)
    10 Brady

    Nowhere appears Cutler in the top ten.

    These fuckers will be surprised come December.

    I’m going up one win, but same finish. 11-5, loss to Panthers in NFC Championship.

    • BerwynBomber

      Rodgers #1 is insane. Gotta select Brady until he proves he can’t do it anymore. I’d have Wilson pretty high too. But yeah, Newton, Rodgers, Brees and R-berger are up there.

      Jay should be top 16. Nothing wrong with that. Plus, we’ll have a better team than the Cheese. Certainly better guards.

      • Johnnywad

        Exactly. But having Brady #10? He needs to have his keyboard taken away.

    • AlbertInTucson

      It’s more fun for them to “…be surprised come December.”.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Cutty didn’t make the top 100 players in the NFL. He’s a QB.

  • GP portrayed by Eric Roberts

    As Colbert said, he looks like he’s going to run a Lesbian food co-op

    http://www.thewrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Tom-Brady.png

    • Cormonster

      Tom really digs Rachel Maddow so he figured he’d get the same hairdo.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Bears made it clear their evaluation of Slauson’s 2015 was lower than general public’s. I disagree.

    I don’t understand what WE (pretty much all) here saw that THEY did not.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      who cares! he gone too.

      • AlbertInTucson

        True. Kind of pointless to keep revisiting that.

    • BearDown100393

      #Slauson

  • AlbertInTucson

    Connor Barth:

    He comes to Chicago at 84.8% for his career with no domes as a home.

    Robbie departs at 85.4% with tricky-for-kickers Soldier Field as a home.

    Barth is 16 for 25 from 50 & beyond including a long of 57. He was 3 of 5 from long range last season..

    Gould was 23 of 31 from long range including, much to my surprise 7 of 9 last season.

    Last year he recorded 32 touchbacks in 64 kick-offs kicking mostly outdoors for Tampa.

    Barth just turned 3. Robbie turns 35 in early December.

    http://www.nfl.com/player/connorbarth/2507463/careerstats

    • willbest

      Barth is basically Robbie the last 2 years but at vet min

      • BearDown100393

        Except Gould had to kick half the time at Soldier Field

        • willbest

          Where he missed from 25 yards or whatever it is now.

          • BearDown100393

            26 yards!

          • Johnnywad

            And changed the outcome of two games last year. I just don’t think Pace could head into the season after watching him lose games last year and shank chip shots last month. His confidence seems to be gone.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            And let’s not forget the no-touchbacks or onsides.

            Robbie, like a hitter, just seems in a slump.

            I wonder if the new KO rules influenced POXs decision to release him.

          • willbest

            Wouldn’t the new KO rules favor Robbie though since he wasn’t kicking TBs anyway.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            But the kicker still has to kick it sorta deep (or high) and direct it.

            Maybe he wasn’t impressing them in that area either.

            To Gould’s credit, he did get a stronger leg mid-career, but maybe he lost a little spunk.

          • SC Dave

            Why would making a touch back LESS advantageous have that effect? Unless, of course, Pace is an imbecile.

          • SC Dave

            There were a dozen or more plays in each of those two games that “changed the outcome”.

          • Johnnywad

            None of them hurt like missing field goals as time expired. Kickers are either clutch or they aren’t. Robbie used to be. Not so last year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      When Robbie shanked one XP last week and then put the next one UNDER the frickin bar … it was coming.

      • MB30SD

        HeDone.

        HeGone!

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

    FF Update. Draft tonight, 11pm Eastern

    10 teams, 2 QB, 1 IR slot.

    Points for almost everything. Same settings as last year except the waiver wire is blind bidding, so keep that in mind too.

    Alrighty.

    • PaceBot 2000

      can i pick cutty twice? we’re gonna fucking kill people this year. KEEEEEEEEEL.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

        You can draft McCown! Cutty-lite

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

    So which team (aside from the Bears) do you guys like this season? Or which team might surprise?

    For some reason, I think the Bengals are gonna finally crash. It happens. The Texans were like that for years, and finally they broke.

    Pats gotta play 4 games without Brady.

    Steelers gotta play about the same without their starting HB and TE and studly WR.

    It’s gonna be a crazy year. Can’t wait.

    • willbest

      AFCW – Raiders
      AFCN – Steelers
      AFCE – Patriots
      AFCS – Texans
      WC1 – Chiefs
      WC2 – Fins

      Chiefs over Texans
      Raiders over Fins
      Raiders over Steelers
      Patriots over Chiefs
      Patriots over Raiders

      NFCN – Bears
      NFCS – Panthers
      NFCE – Skins
      NFCW – Cards
      WC1 – GB
      WC2 – Seattle

      Bears over GB
      Panthers over Seattle
      Bears over Skins
      Cards over Panthers
      Bears over Cards

      Bears over Patriots

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

        wow, ur riding da Raiderz!
        Fins? another bold prediction. I just don’t see them clicking, but maybe Gase finally makes it come together.

        I agree with you and the skins, esp now that romo is down.

        I think of all teams the Cards are perhaps most motivated. I think they feel THIS is their year, but Palmer has looked pretty mortal. Inj, or old age? He was mediocre for a few years b4 Arians.

        • BerwynBomber

          Palmer looked good the majority of last year — he was a legit MVP candidate most of the season — but he looked like crap in the post-season. Even in their win over the Cheese he could have been picked five times (I think the Cheese ended up with 3 INTs as it was).

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            Yeah, and supposedly he inj his hand, so that might have been the reason.

            Never know though. Sometimes QBs just become mediocre.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Dak Prescott will light up that division.

  • Jack Lacan

    Good as something or other.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

    looking over the Bears roster, surprised Jacoby Glenn made the cut. He played well, so he earned it.

    Speaking of which, who the heck is our starting secondary right now?

    Also, Sitton is a big boy. 6’3 320. Long is 6’6 320. Whithair is 6’3 310 and I’m sure he’ll pack on muscle.

    Massie is 6’6 320. That’s a lot of man meat.

    The “small” one is Leno at 6’3 305, but LTs usually have to be lighter on their feet.

    Oline just went from a weakness to a strength in a weekend. Me likery.

    • willbest

      The only thing that happened over the weekend was Sitton replaced Whitehair. Larsen is starting Center until Whitehair figures out how to snap the ball farther back than his ass.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

        Only! stealing all–pro OG from our bitter rival and essentially benching Grasu for the foreseeable future is not “only”.

        It’s yuge.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “All-Pro” or just “Pro-Bowl”?

          That Packer line allowed 47 sacks last season.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            I thought I read he was an All-pro.

            Hmm I wonder how many were on those scrub OTs and funky O.

            A lot of cheeseheads are mad at Thompson for cutting him like that, so he must be decent.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Just read that this was over (suprise!) money. Sitton wanted to negotiate an extension and the Pack was leery of Sitton’s back issues. Article also says there’s no clear replacement for Sitton in Green Bay.

            http://sports.yahoo.com/news/guard-josh-sitton-sends-big-message-by-signing-with-packers-rivals-030840718.html

          • PaceBot 2000

            Sometimes you can’t be cheap about money. In this case, if the Pack has one injury at guard they are in a pickle. I like this move more an more. Sit his ass for a couple of weeks if need be. Activate McPhee and Sitton in the middle of the season when we make a playoff push.

            #strategy

          • AlbertInTucson

            One man’s trash is another man’s treasure. I especially like the part about “No clear replacement” for Sitton in GB.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Baktiari and Bulaga seem to come up lame a LOT.

            Sitton had to slide out to left tackle last season.

          • BerwynBomber

            Even a healthy Bulaga has never proven himself to be all that good, and Baktiari played horribly last year. I believe he led the league in holding penalties.

            Cheese O-line played very well in ’14 but that was more the exception than the rule. Rodgers has run for his life as often as Cutty has.

            All that said, Sitton is a decent signing. He’s solid and he’s been durable. But he is 30 and there have been whispers about his back. Still, can’t blame Pace for the move even if it doesn’t work. It’s justifiable in my view. Reminds me a bit of PE’s Bushrod move, which was kinda break even in retrospect.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’ll pay 7M for what he had in Slauson. Still, I applaud the move.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Hope THIS cut works out as well for them as the Charles Woodson one did.

            I’m sure Cheesers are still steamed over that move.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not to mention I hope they’re water-boarding him for the offensive calls right now.

          • Ososfan

            Haha!

          • AlbertInTucson
      • Irish Sweetness

        This.

    • Cormonster

      I heard Sitton dropped about 20 pounds before this season to take a little pressure off his back, so he’s playing around 305.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

        205! I’m no math major, Corm, but I hope he weighs more than that!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Josh Shitton?

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      Porter, Fuller, Callahan, Amos, and Jones-Quartey.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

        Thanks.

        Callahan at nickle. Interesting. He flashed last year but seemed to struggle in the P.S.

        Jones-Q starting at S. Hmmmm.

        I think Hall and Houston will make some starts down the line.

        • PaceBot 2000

          Houston Carson sucks and will cost us games and cause us misery if he’s in. Watch his lack of instincts and inability to break on a ball or obvious pattern. It’s sad to watch.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

            he only allows them to catch it so he can punch it out!

          • Irish Sweetness

            He and Hurst were the only two guys that really weren’t good. Everyone else is okay.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Two of those will be starting against Houston.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Glenn and Hall are wonderful-looking press corners, and probably better than the guys they’re replacing. Amos and HQJ are the starters, maybe Bush comes in at nickel now?
      I like our DBs.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

    I must still be drunk from last night or something, but did I just read that the Vikes gave up a FIRST rd (and a 4rth) for Bradford?

    WTF?

    Wow. And this is why the Pack remain on top.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      i am just baffled teams continue to give draft picks for Bradford. Didn’t the Eagles give up 2 picks to the Rams to get him also?

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

        Yeah, it’s crazy. Bradford’s gotta have reaped the most 1st rd picks in NFL history.

        Dude is the def of a JAG. I would’ve preferred to roll with a guy like McCown for a mid round, but that leg inj was pretty gruesome.

        Maybe they’re hedging their bets. But, a 1st!?

        Wow. I would’ve waited to see what Garrapolo does and then give the Pats a 1st for him if he looks foreals.

        • Irish Sweetness

          When he’s tearing up the NFCN come back and holler, boys!

          • MB30SD

            Smmfh

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s got a great setup in Minny. I think he’ll blossom.

          • MB30SD

            Smmfh… because he other three attempts to blossom were at terribly set up places.

            Come on Man, you know this… 4th time isn’t a charm in the nfl. Everyone knows exactly what he is and isn’t. The nfl is not a fairytale

  • PaceBot 2000

    Too much rum may not make 10pm…….
    Someone draft cutty, Earl Bennett, Forte and aromashodu for me while I drift off into rum slumber.

    • beninnorcal

      Whats happenning at 10 pm?

      • PaceBot 2000

        About 9 other chumps gonna git killed in fantasy football. If I could only remember my password.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

      It’s only 40 mins away!

      You can always blow ur wad fast. I’m gonna be imbibing myself.

      Unleash the krakin!

      • MB30SD

        And the xbox!!

      • PaceBot 2000

        I’m fucking in

    • Irish Sweetness

      SHABBA!

  • EnderWiggin

    Artoo not responsive…

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

      I tweeted him. Don’t know if he got it though.
      Hope so.

      • That Guy

        Made a late entry and salvaged some ugly bot selections

  • MB30SD

    “Happy Labor Day. Have a hot dog. No fucking ketchup.”

    you people are fucking feral animals. yeesh

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

    FF draft over.

    Furiously rosterbating.

    #Zeke
    #Hopkins
    #Forte
    #Edleman
    #Reed

    • That Guy

      #yawn

      • MB30SD

        Hahahahaha

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd ArbyManager#83 (ButchDeadLift)

          #hatin’

    • EnderWiggin

      I had a blast. Thanks man.

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