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Matchup That Matters: Jags at Bears

| October 13th, 2016

“On offense we have had a lot of third and long situations. Third and 11-plus. It is not just third and 11. These are third and 20s, third and 23s. Far too many in that area. It comes back to controlling things we can control. The foolish penalties. Penalties overall. False starts, pre-snap, more pre-snap issues for us.”

Jaguars coach Gus Bradley, News4Jax


Bears Players & Jags Players

vs.

Penalties

Some, including the head writer, editor and founder of this site, argued Jay Cutler would have beaten the Colts a week ago were he playing quarterback. But more important to state is this: Brian Hoyer would have easily won the game if not for bad penalties in key moments by the Bears offense. Penalties on Long, Howard, Paulsen…etc. cost the Bears points and this club is not good enough to give away points.

Jacksonville is the fourth most penalized club in the sport and are only fourth because they’ve played one fewer game than the three teams ranked ahead of them. (For a complicated penalties chart, check this out.)

This game will come down to mistakes; which team makes more and which team makes them at the costliest moments. That’s what happens when subpar teams play. And these are two subpar teams.

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  • MB30SD

    Konichiwa bitches.

    Jags indeed. We need to beat these fools, because…. jags

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Just going to bed? Jag-offs? Dead!

      • MB30SD

        Woke up at 3… chest tight and sore from workout yesterday. Forgot to take Advil… and had to piss like a racehorse.

        Oh well, huge amounts of weight don’t bench themselves.

        …And getting old sucks.

        • PaceBot 2000

          It’s been proven that surfing tasty waves, feasting on asada, making some cash and inserting your penile protrusion into young coeds without squandering said cash will keep you young.
          The fountain of youth has existed this whole time.

          Fucking scientific.

          • MB30SD

            I’m doing my very best yonny.

        • Scharfinator

          Just watch that urine color and don’t get rhabdo!

        • CanadaBear

          Low weights, lots of reps keeps you out of the medicine cabinet. it also does nothing for definition but at least you aren’t getting injured. From a much older, much suckier friend!

          • PaceBot 2000

            high weights, lower reps keeps much blood raging into your bone.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s awesome if the frame can handle it. Lots of big gains in a hurry (esp if it’s paired with “special sauce”). For me, whenever I tried that route, I ended up with a really sore lower back.

          • PaceBot 2000

            from all the sex?

          • MB30SD

            this is true

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha, do both canada. I don’t go too heavy anymore, although I guess that’s subjective.

          • CanadaBear

            Must have been giving ‘er at the gym to be sore in the middle of the night. Gotta admit I haven’t done any benching in 30 years.

          • MB30SD

            Haha, nah. Benched since I was 15.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Jess, it takes me 10 minutes to piss as well. Lol

          • MB30SD

            luckily I don’t have those issues… yet.

  • PaceBot 2000

    I’ve been mostly staying out of sports news since our entire D seemed to get hurt and our starting QB went down and it’s been glorious to say the least.

    It’s sad in a way because I have no expectations to win but by no means is it because of the play of Hoyer and the absence of Cutler. It’s because I know that consistent winning football requires pieces in place that we don’t and haven’t had in quite a while. When we kind of had those pieces AND Cutler was the QB I always had hope that we had a chance to win even though the odds weren’t that great.

    With a depleted defense and an efficient QB we’re going to fucking lose man, it’s just going to happen. The good news is that this will re-focus the real priorities which is strengthening the D, bringing in real playmakers and difference makers and creating an environment where we don’t have to have Aaron Rodgers simply to have a shot at winning more often than not.

    At this point we have shitty JAG’s at safety incorrectly yelling at average second year safeties about unknown coverage assignments, a fanbase desperate to get rid of their all time passing leader and best QB option, street FA’s and UDFA’s, late round picks and career backups playing defense the best that their talent will allow and it’s lackluster.

    • MB30SD

      I agree with everything you’ve said, save one critical piece… and i won’t say it because I love yous.

      I’ll just say that looking back i hope that this season will have been our turning point back to a great franchise. Where coaches who aren’t cutting it, and some longstanding players that haven’t ever really been great are cleaned out and Ginny finally says enough and gets us true top shelf talent where it’s desperately been needed for a long time.

      Bring back bill “choppers” cowher?

      • willbest

        Its not that the McCaskey’s lack the will, they lack the ability. I don’t know how you fix that.

        • MB30SD

          That’s bullshit. Stop the fucking meaningless rotation at coach… clean house from the top.

          Throw that useless fucking dickbag teddy out of his bean counting head and get someone who knows, loves, and has been successfull in football all his life. Then you let him do what needs to be done all the way down to the strength and conditioning coaches to turn the ship.

          I don’t know who that person is, but he’s out there somewhere

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            Peyton Manning, new team president. Head (Giant) of football operations.

          • MB30SD

            Interesting. I think i like it!

            …anything to get that nasaly giant-domed geek off my fucking tv every other fucking commercial

          • Scharfinator

            They would show him multiple times in his box seats every home game… probably felating Papa John or wearing Nationwide logos like a Nascar driver.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Whenever I see that commercial of Peyton making cupcakes for Papa John, I say out loud “whose your daddy?”

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Dickbag Teddy Ballgame

          • SC Dave

            If you’re going to blame Teddy, at least make it the right reason. Dickbag =>GMs <=, who are responsible for those dickbag coaches.

            But I think the real problem is that scouting declined precipitously within a few years of Finks' departure. Which was, of course, Papa Bear's fault.

        • MB30SD

          hahahaha

    • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

      Agree, Fans thought that have an “almost” finished product here, but lack of execution in critical moments is the main reason of most of the problems and it reflexs in the record.

      • SC Dave

        This. Too many penalties at nearly the worst of times.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Yeah, the Jags don’t appear to be taking advantage of everything they have. We could win this .. but I want Kizer – or whoever – more than a meaningless win on our way to 6-10.

    R.I.P King Bhumibol Adulyadej. Died at 88. The whole country is crying.

    Shit gonna get real now.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    I haven’t decided if i’m really rooting for victories at this point. Don’t get me wrong, I do not want the team to go out and shit themselves, and look like assholes. Like they did in Dallas and against Philly. I don’t think that is good for anyone (especially the fans). I suppose i’d take the Colts game 12 more times. They showed some promise. Saw some development from the young guys. They passed the eye test for most of the game but ultimately came up short. That would be an ideal situation for the season. Show growth, show promise, get the young guys some experience, but lose enough games to be in position to take a game changing qb come next spring. I’d like to see Cuntler out there playing though. He is under contract for next year. The Bears would be fucking dumber than shit. Terrible, ignorant and stuper stinky shit, not just regular shit, if they just drop him. They should be able to turn his monkey ass into at least a 3rd round pick and maybe higher if he performs this year. In a league where assholes like Oswheeler in Denver get 20 mil a year and Sam Bradford gets a first round pick 3 different times before doing shit, you have to hope that Cutty Badger will garner us at least a fucking third round pick. amiright?

    • MB30SD

      One would hope. You’re on fire this morning

    • PaceBot 2000

      Always root for victory. Just don’t jump off a cliff if they lose

      • SC Dave

        I know we disagree on some stuff, but 1000% this. Even when that cliff is goading us into going over its edge.

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    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      UB Rite

    • BearDown100393

      Cutler will lead the Bears to the promised land.
      12-4

    • SC Dave

      Agreed, tho so far, Bradford is on his way to being worth it. But the year is young.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      Your link does not match your statement.

      And its not a reboot its a sequel from what I read.

      • MB30SD

        thanks for ruining my joke… which scharf seemed to like.

        lawyer jerk

    • Scharfinator

      So many fucking reboots. Good lord

      • Scharfinator

        HAHAH read the link after my comment, good joke

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Gators at the Door is a great band,

  • willbest

    They aren’t actually going to let the UK leave Dave.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/brexit-battle-reaches-uks-high-court-challenge-pm-024602360.html

    They will delay long enough to justify a revote and the fix will be in.

    • SC Dave

      We’ll see. Nigel may have to come out of retirement.

      The world is overdue for major upheaval.

      It appears that this will center around the attempts of an unaccountable bureaucratic elite to undermine self-determination in favor of “world government” and, more importantly, their personal aggrandizement.

  • SC Dave
  • CanadaBear

    This will sound familiar to Bears’ fans. Nessman just hates to have anyone tote the rock.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000720223/article/pitta-ravens-offense-was-in-kind-of-a-bad-place

  • Some, including the head writer, editor and founder of this site, argued Jay Cutler would have beaten the Colts a week ago were he playing quarterback. – jeff

    Oh reallly? When was the last time Cutty lead a 97yd td drive in a game he also threw for 390yds and no INTs?

    I’ll wait.

    I know i mess around a lot, but i don’t think Hoyer is the playoff answer. But, playoffs!?

    That’s why I’m kinda in da coaches corner. I would like to see them be competitve and lose to get that #1 for a new franchise QB , but on gameday i know I’m gonna be cheering for them to win anyways.

    There’s gotta be a German word for the physycological cluster fuck of being a bear’s fan

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Ichbin Ditka Madchen Drumpfenfrucker

      also

      Emeryslauson Kaskee Puchstoltz

    • willbest

      Um… Last year in Green Bay he went for 290 a TD and no TOs in the best win the Bears had this decade. But you know what have you done for me this season he is a bit short on.

      • Add a 90yd drive, another TD, higher % , another 100 yds and deduct about $10M and you got Hoyer!

        • willbest

          You also get a loss against a shitty Colts team rather than a win against a team that got to the second round in the playoffs.

          • SC Dave

            Oh great Flying Spaghetti Monster, DO NOT LET ME GET STARTED on Cutler vs. Green Bay.

            There is a reason Jay is Cheesy’s third favorite QB after Favre and Rodgers.

          • willbest

            Now you are arguing something different. Butch wanted the last time Cutler did what Hoyer did.

          • SC Dave

            You put the shit in about the best win, so I asked for help. I won’t go there.

        • Bender McLugh

          and no win

    • willbest

      Incidentally in 2014 there was 375 and a TD and no TO’s against the Falcons in a win before the wheels came off. There might have been others, I just assumed if it says 1 TO it was an INT or strip-sack rather than a fumble by the RB or WR after catch.

      Finding 90+ yard drives is difficult but you know he has done them.

      • PaceBot 2000

        oh my god, it’s like no one actually watched the 1st two games.

        • willbest

          Butch is looking for all of it in 1 single game. Personally, Hoyer’s stat line doesn’t mean dick all to me when we lose other than to show he wasn’t the problem.

          Penalties and bad ST play has been killing us, and the defense has showed up to 1 out of the 5 games, and surprise surprise it happened to be the game we won.

          • PaceBot 2000

            it’s sad when you actually go back and see how we won most of our games over the years. I won’t even tell you. You just have to watch the efforts involved in the actual wins. To bring up some sort of stat line and try to apply it to those games is fucking stupid.

          • willbest

            takeaways. Its usually takeaways.

          • SC Dave

            Or turnover differential, at least.

  • BearDown100393

    Denholm Elliott got lost in his own museum. And he’s been dead for 24 years.

  • AlbertInTucson

    3rd and long.

    That seems to have been an issue for the Bear offense since, well, forever.

  • MB30SD
  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    More of what’s been on the menu lately. It’s a week old article.

    http://nflmocks.com/2016/10/13/chicago-bears-brian-hoyer-vs-jay-cutler-stat-comparison/

  • willbest

    Callahan and Porter returned to practice. Royal, Cutler, Hall, Langford, and Goldman out.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Gotta admit that signing Hoyer has proven to be a very good move. Just imagine the Bears without him. Fales?

      • Huge Bears Penis

        you mean FUTURE HOFer Fales!

        • Freddy G.P. Soft

          GOAT

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I know did you see him in PS that one year.

      • willbest

        Shaw would have been fine, but he doesn’t have a leg. But if not Hoyer it would be like Sanchez or something.

        I am happy for Hoyer. The guy has more than earned his contract, and for his sake I hope somebody makes a bad decision on him (I just hope to hell it isn’t us).

      • BearDown100393

        0-5 instead of 1-4?

        • willbest

          2-3 if at least one of the other two phases worked reliably.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Go sho. Can you image Todd Collins back there?

    • Huge Bears Penis

      what happened to Royal?

      • willbest

        Pain management probably. He rested 2 practices last week too.

    • BerwynBomber

      Cutler was seen throwing yesterday during the media session.

  • PaceBot 2000

    I was talking about the Bears and Packers with a buddy this weekend and was telling him about the revisions happening on our blog and fanbase with what has really happened ever since Cutler came aboard.
    He laughed and pointed out that the Bears lost in the NFC Championship to a miracle Packers team that was having a miracle latter half of the season/post season and were playing with so much momentum and hall of fame production from a hall of fame qb that it resulted in a Super Bowl victory.
    He then went on to talk about the void of talent since the arrival of Cutler, the decline of the defense due to age/injury/retirement and the terrible choices in coaching. I watched a Packers fan dissect the last decade of inconsistency…..and we can’t even fucking admit that shit ourselves.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Nothing has ever been wrong with the Defense or Oline or receivers or coaching, everyone knows it has always been Cutler’s fault.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Was he like a really good friend? Lol

      • PaceBot 2000

        ha, it was just weird hearing it from a fan of a hated rival.

        • willbest

          The younger packer fans (under 30) honestly don’t give a shit about the Bears and concern themselves more with Minny. Its depressing talking to them. We aren’t even good enough to matter to the next generation. Two back to back HoF QBs will spoil the shit out of some people.

    • willbest

      Look its been bad. Cutler hasn’t been part of the solution though. So I get wanting to move on from him. If nothing else, so I don’t have to listen to him be blamed for it all anymore.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Guys like Butch won’t even remember what the Packers were like that year. It was their fucking destiny man, they barely gave up points during the year, lost a shit ton of games by a a tiny handful of points then ran the post season table as a shitty 5h or 6th seed which had been done 1 other time in history and I remember because it was because the other team to do it was the Steelers, who they beat in the superbowl.
        They had pro bowler after all pro on the D, tons of great WR’s and a hall of famer playing his very best football of his life.
        And we talk about Cutler. It’s like we’re a bunch of fucking millennials.

        • BerwynBomber

          Their D was solid but not great. Woodson? Yes, HoF. Matthews most likely too, though I believe he was a rookie or second year player. After that, solid guys but nothing incredible. Our D arguably had more Pro Bowl level guys in Lach, Briggs, Pep and Tillman. Plus, wasn’t Tommie Harris still a force that year?

          • PaceBot 2000

            Nick Collins? Tramon Williams? Fatty McButterpants at nosetackle?

            Nick Collins is a fucking legend and the only reason he’s not a perennial All Pro is because he almost died on the field and had to quit.

          • BerwynBomber

            Valid point about Collins.

            Williams was Tim Jennings w/out the latter’s run support skills. He has made one Pro Bowl during his entire career (though he admittedly had a huge post-season that year).

            Raji? Good player but a) was his rookie year, and b) like Williams has only ever made one Pro Bowl.

          • PaceBot 2000

            there was only 1 team that gave up less points than them that year. It was their season of destiny. Sorry, it was.

          • Johnnywad

            I’d take it. Two Hall of Famers and a handful of guys that only go to one Pro Bowl + Aaron Rodgers at his peak. Sounds pretty formidable.

          • Johnnywad

            Hell, that’s three Hall of Famers, one being a QB, at the same time. That has to be rare.

          • BerwynBomber

            Really? I would think every SB winning team usually has at least two HoFers on their squad. And an HC like Belichick, obviously a HoFer himself, could at least count for one, if not more.

            Heck, the Bears 2010 squad, which lost to the Cheese, might have three itself: Lach, Pep and Hester.

          • Johnnywad

            Reading it again, that doesn’t quite read right. Rare in the way that Super Bowls are rare I suppose.

            But to the larger point above, I’d kill for a HOF QB combined with two HOF defenders. That puts you in the conversation before the season even kicks off.

            I don’t think Pep’s getting in. Hester deserves it, but that’s a little foggy. He was certainly of HoF talent in his early years.

          • Pep’s getting in.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, Pep’s gotta lot of stats, longevity and accolades. I don’t know if he will be a first-ballot guy, but he should get in at some point.

          • Johnnywad

            Time will tell. He had HOF type seasons for sure, but also had some very average ones along the way. He hasn’t been dominant in some time. As bad as the Bears have been of late, have you really been concerned about Peppers when they play the Packers? I haven’t.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, but in fairness he was past his prime by the time the Cheese picked him up. His best days were here and CAR.

          • Johnnywad

            True. But just looking at Jared Allen for the sake of comparison, They have virtually identical sack and tackle totals, but Allen play in 187 games to Pep’s 222 and counting. So Allen has the same production in 35 fewer games. That’s significant.

            We’ll see. I’m just not sure the production ever quite matched the hype. Perhaps it was the handful of plays a game he “loaded”. I don’t know, he was damn good in his prime, I’m just not sure he gets in.

          • willbest

            Pep did more than sacks though.

          • Johnnywad

            So did Allen. They are separated by a handful of tackles.

          • I think Allen will get in also, but I think Pepp actually has some INTs, blocked kicks, and TD returns to his game.

            Pepp just made more of an impact. He was genuinely feared.

          • Johnnywad

            Meh. Fuck him for being a Packer then.

          • I hated that too, but can you blame him for wanting to stick it to Nessman.

            Holy crap!

            Dude is this generation’s Moss though.

            Great talent.

            quixotic.

            Not a guy a fan can really root for.

          • willbest

            Allen

            136 sackes, 498 tackles, 144 assists, 58 passes defensed, 4 safeties, 6 INT, 32 forced fumbles, 2 TDs

            Pepper

            137.5 sacks, 509 tackles, 142 assists, 76 passes defensed, 11 INT, 48 FF, 6 TDs

            And of course, I don’t know each of their careers well enough to note who they were on the D-line with, and then of course there are hits, hurries, disruptions which I don’t have the stats on.

          • willbest

            Looking at the “intangibles”

            Jared has 4 seasons as first team all pro and 5 probowls. Couple that with being Sack leader twice and he should be going to Canton with Pep.

          • Agree.

            I think Pepp had more talent and wow plays, but can’t deny Jared’s stats.

            I also would argue Pepp was better against the run, and was double-triple teamed more, which doesn’t show up as much in stats.

          • BerwynBomber

            Good points, Wad. But I wonder if their TTs #s are much different, as Pep always seemed strong against the run while Allen seemed more pure pass rusher.
            Plus, I think Pep has some weird INT record for down linemen. Or maybe it’s a TD record.

            Keep in mind too, as much as Allen was a letdown for us he was one of the top pass rushers in the game for a # of years.

          • Pepp is OLD now.

            I would argue he could almost get in on his CAR time alone.

            Pepp was just a DOMINANT force, and the Watt of the NFLwhile there.

            He continued to be good with the Bears, and OK with the Pack.

            Diff positions get judged differently. It’s very hard to be an impact pass rusher into mid-30s.

            Pepp is still the “proto-type” 4-3 DE all scouts drool over even to this day.

            And he mostly lived up to it, even if he had a bit of Moss in him.

          • Johnnywad

            JJ Watt averaged 15 sacks a season through his first five years. That includes only 5.5 his rookie year. Julius Peppers has never once reached 15 in a single season. Most years, it has been 12 or fewer. He was never putting together even a single season like JJ Watt has averaged for five.

          • I don’t mean Watt in his stats. Watt’s stats are insane – I think even better than White’s, esp when you consider he also played some TE and got TDs that way too.

            I mean Pepp was THE premiere pass rusher for some time, with all the hype and hoopla.

            He made a lot of “wow” plays, like running an INT for 97 yds.

            Won AP defensive player of year, AP defensive rook of year,.

            Was drafted 2nd overall after an illustrious college career.

            Etc etc. Those things add up.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, the key of course is a HOF QB. Probably more often than not you get a SB trophy if you have one of those guys for most of their careers. The Marinos, Kellys, Tarentons, Fouts, Moons, etc. being the exceptions, I guess. Or who knows. Maybe it is about 50/50. Regardless, obviously improves your chances.

      • BerwynBomber

        I want to move on from him for the opposite “if for no other reason”. Namely, we won’t have to listen to the endless Cutty excuse-making, of which Waffle already began in this sub-thread.

        Similarly, I won’t miss the Zapruder-like breakdown of every INT he throws and reporters badgering the targeted receiver until the latter takes the responsibility for the mistake thereby absolving Jay. I can’t imagine this weekly process happening in other cities. In fact, the only time I remember seeing it nationally was the aftermath of the NO/IND SB over Tracy Porter’s pick six.

    • Cutler isn’t great. He’s also not bad. He’s a solid starting QB.

      The team around him, by and large, has been bad since 2012, and an undo portion of the blame for that falls on him.

      The data is overwhelming. With JAG at QB like that, you win with a good roster and lose with a bad one. Look at BAL with Flacco. Or DET with STafford. BOth the same QB.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Cutler took 8 sacks in 1.5 games
        It’s crazy to not admit they changed up the gameplan. It didn’t take Birdcage becoming Einstein. It took Birdcage becoming Big Mike, an 8th grade coach who fucking knows that you don’t drop 5 steps and test the likes of Leno and Massie without needing to. That you get the ball out quick and run crossing routes and regular bootlegs, screens and quick hitters.
        Then the run game took off. Now that’s the template, like it was last year under Gase.

        And you could have done it all…from game one…with a QB that could also go big boy style to our guy Alshon down the field at a moments notice. Instead we spotted the rest of the league at LEAST 2 games.

  • willbest

    A yardba?

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      does it have a debug mode?
      Can it fix the Soldier Field turf?

      • willbest

        This looks more like a proof of concept video than a consumer video so I don’t think we will be seeing it on the market any time soon.

        • Freddy G.P. Soft

          Can it mulch your victims?

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    I be first blogger and times past count I done the tell
    but it werent me that tumbled Farve
    it was Waffle so it only right he take the tell

    this aint one bodies story
    its the story of us all
    we got it post to post so you gotta listen it and ‘member
    cause what you hears today
    you gotta tell the birthed tomorrow

    im lookin behind us now
    across the count of time down the long hall into history back
    i sees the end what with the start
    the apokso clipse full of pain!
    boooom!
    and out of was birthed cracklin dust and fierceness time
    it was full on winter and mister wannestedt chasin them all!
    but one he could not catch and that was captain farve

    he gathers up his gang and takes to the air
    and flies the sky!
    so they left their homes and said bye dee bye to the high scrapers
    and what were left of the knowin they left behind
    some say the wind just stoppered
    and others reckoned it was a gang called Bears

    and after the wreck some had been jumped by mister wannestedt
    but some had the luck and it led them here
    and they made it to Green Bay
    and they said ‘we don’t need the knowing, we can live here’

    and since that ancient time, there ain’t been no Bears of record. Vanquished were they.
    never more during the tellin would they be relevant again!

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    I’ll see you your Captain Walker and Raise you a Marcus Cicero.

    A nation can survive it’s fools, and even the ambitious. But it cannot survive treason from within. An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and he carries his banners openly. But the traitor moves among those within the gate freely, his sly whispers rustling through all the galleys, heard in the very hall of government itself. For the traitor appears not a traitor–He speaks in the accents familiar to his victims, and wears their face and their garment, and he appeals to the baseless that lies deep in the hearts of all men. He rots the soul of a nation–he works secretly and unknown in the night to undermine the pillars of a city if he infects the body politic so that it can no longer resist. A murderer is less to be feared.

  • SC Dave

    Minimum price for MLB free agent, by rule, is $17,200,000 next season.

    Unfuckingbelievable

    • willbest

      MLB FA always confuses me since they have like 15 tiers.

      • SC Dave

        Presumably, that is the top tier.

    • willbest

      Alright so I read an article. The 17.2 million is a qualifying offer. Anybody then signing that player must part with either their first or second round draft pick. You don’t have to give a qualifying offer, you just won’t get any compensation when another team signs them.

      • SC Dave

        I was too lazy.. thanks

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      There may be a whole lotta free agent MLB’s that don’t get signed.

  • CanadaBear

    In the immortal words of Hank Snow, He’s Moving On. At least that’s what this writer thinks about Cutler. I agree with his synopsis about Cutler leaving and no compensation for the Bears.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17778684/projecting-2017-nfl-quarterback-market

    • BerwynBomber

      Saw that earlier. Guess it comes down to how trades work with RFA and/or contracts that have options left. Maybe willbest or JWood can weigh in. Is Barnwell suggesting that a trading partner would have to pick up the remaining optional years on Cutty’s contract? Because yeah, if that is the case we might indeed get zilch for him.

      Would have been interesting to see if PHI would have gotten anything for Bradford in an off-season had the MIN situation not come along.

      • CanadaBear

        If you trade for a player you are taking on that contract. That’s why I’ve been saying they won’t get anything for him

        • BerwynBomber

          Right, but after this year the remainder of Cutty’s contract is optional/non-guaranteed. Or so I thought. So why would it become a 4 year 72.7M deal if he is traded? Are their triggers that automatically lock down all four years in the event of a trade? If a team picks up the option for one year do they automatically have to do the same for all three? See what I am getting at?

          • willbest

            In a trade the new team takes the contract which is:

            17: 12.5 m + 2.5 mil active roster bonus
            18: 13.5 m + 2.5 mil active roster bonus
            19: 17.5 m + 2.5 mil active roster bonus
            20: 19.2 m + 2.5 mil active roster bonus

            Now they could cut bait any time (although as a vet his base salary becomes vested any year he makes the 53-man roster).

          • willbest

            Incidentally that is why I am convinced Cutler will start some place next year. As long as he doesn’t completely shit the bed on his return, his 17 & 18 salary are great value for what you get.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, if it all team has to pick up is next year he is trade-able. But his age and rep will precede him.

          • willbest

            He has the rep here. We live in a bubble. And Pace has shown a willingness to trade cheap if he wants to move on from somebody. The Jets paid Fitzy that much this year. Tossing in a 3rd to upgrade to Cutler? Seems like a no-brainer (assuming the bromance can be rekindled)

          • BerwynBomber

            We live in bubble? Nah, if anything Chicago is MUCH more pro-Cutler than the larger, outside world. Hell, half the blog gets its panties in a twist over Dickerson not blowing Cutty enough. And Dickerson comes off like Blogfather/Andrew/Jahns and the rest of Blogfather’s Cutty-loving friends compared to the national media.

            But yeah, I think he can be moved too. A team would only be on the hook for the first year, apparently. And Fitzpatrick is, of course, a joke and probably not even as good as half the back-ups in the league.

          • willbest

            Well not this year. He has his years. So does Cutler. Thought Fitzy’s floor is a disaster and Cutlers is just bleh.

          • BerwynBomber

            I’ve never been sold on Fitzpatrick. I don’t know why he has remained a starter as long as he has.

            Cutty, I get, even if I’ve remained a career-long skeptic.

          • BerwynBomber

            Right, so there is no guaranteed money, and the 72M thing is a bit misleading. It’s basically 15M next year with optional years.

          • Those are reasonable prices for a starting QB.

            But expensive for a “bridge”, which I think the market will determine Cutler is.

            Miami must dump Tannenhill.

            Cutler as a Bridge while Gase develops his true franchise would make sense.

            I still think the Cards could be a wild card. Their window is now, and if they think Palmer has reverted to Raider’s Palmer, maybe they make the move.

          • BerwynBomber

            Is Palmer owed any guaranteed money next year?

          • I think they restructured it, but he’s old.

            Can’t imagine it’s too much.

            But Palmer has looked very mortal since late last season.

            4INTs in playoff game leaves a bad taste.

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh, I could see Cutty over Palmer too. My only point was is if they’re on the hook for, say, $20M next year to Palmer it might give them pause in pursuing Cutty.

    • SC Dave

      Interesting article. Any chance we could swap Cutler (andaybe a 3rd rounder) for Rivers?

      After all, Rivers already was in a high profile swap… that ended up better, probably, for SD and NO

      • willbest

        Rivers sounds like he has zero interest in playing football outside of San Diego. Family is pretty important to him and not yanking them across the country for $18 million he doesn’t need sounds like something he would do.

        • SC Dave

          Everyone wants a championship. Not that we’re dangling that out there, unfortunately.

          I imagine he would have, for example, jumped all over an offer from the Vikings.

        • MB30SD

          Guy’s also a whiny leaky cunt who’s single handedly trying to repopulate San Diego.

          … but who am i to judge

          • He was just prepping for the Apocalypse!

          • willbest

            If I were worth $100 million, I would have like 16 kids too. Spread my seed far and wide. I want 20% of the continent to have my DNA 500 years from now!

          • MB30SD

            Ewwwwww

          • Huge Bears Penis

            afraid of competition on your own repopulating efforts?

          • MB30SD

            Please god no… I’ll let him do that. I just want to be all these nice young ladies practice

  • AlbertInTucson

    NFL.com has dropped the Season pass price to $75.

    Still, “Thanks, but no thanks” for me.

    • willbest

      What was it before?

      • AlbertInTucson

        $99. I figure they’ll drop it every 4th week or so.

    • PaceBot 2000

      yessssssss, my boycott has yielded results. I’m in.

      • willbest

        I am still waiting for my boycott of Ferrari to yield results.

        • PaceBot 2000

          Used Maserati is the new discount Ferrari

          The Quattroporte GT has 394 horsepower. That is fucking insane. It’s a family car!

          • MB30SD

            Eurotrash pos

    • SC Dave

      Well, it was $99 before the season started, so the per game is higher now.

      Unless your team had the bye already.

      • willbest

        Bastards!

        • SC Dave

          Caveat emptor.

      • AlbertInTucson

        But the previous games are included.

        • SC Dave

          True, but you didn’t see them when it mattered.

          • willbest

            Well at this point the rest of them don’t matter either =)

          • AlbertInTucson

            I only was interested in the different team radio broadcasts. Always enjoyed listening to the other team’s call when the Bears would win.

            Not enough Bears’ wins to justify any expenditure at this point.

    • BerwynBomber

      You mean the all-replay thing?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yes, plus the radio broadcasts.

  • Bernie Cohen

    C’mon! Both teams suck.

    • PaceBot 2000

      Thanks Bernie!

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        Bernie is dope

    • CanadaBear

      The new battle cry!

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    You watch this trailer and you say “where is Chrsitopher Walken? Why does this film not have Chris Walken in it?”

  • SC Dave
    • Just install the Will plan.

      If you pay taxes for 10 people, you get 10 votes. You pay 1,000 times more than janitor,, 1,000 times more votes for you.

      Problem solved!

      • willbest

        I have several voting plans, all of them better than the current system.

        • SC Dave

          My daughter proposed several years ago that there be a simple test to be able to vote. Specifically, name the three branches of the United States government and the purpose of each.

          It’s only, fundamentally, 9 words.

          • willbest

            If I trusted our leaders to administer anything correctly, I could get behind that.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I believe a BUNCH of elected officials would flunk such a test.

      • SC Dave

        Did you read the article?

        • Yeah, I read it.

          I don’t get some of the logic. Weren’t hollywood movie stars doing the “go vote” under the GW regime?

          So according to his logic, they only do those commercials when they have psychic abilities to know beforehand if the general population will vote dem?

          Don’t Dennis Miller and Clint Eastwood and his chair tell citizens to vote, or do they not count as celebrities?

          What am I missing here?

          • willbest

            He doesn’t agree with any of that. And Eastwood did his bit at the RNC… How many Low information voters you think watching that thing? Sure they can make the general plea that sounds general, but who are they speaking to.

            You think a lot of liberals watch Dirty Jobs? What network was it that for got Phil Robertson’s entire audience was a bunch of conservatives when they suspended him and realized “oops that was bottom line stupid”

            I bet less than 1 in 5 liberals know who Mike Rowe is.

          • But they ALL do it. Bill O’reilly always urges for ppl to vote, without qualification.

            I don’t see the big deal.

            Rowe does come close to “elitist” thinking though.

            If you’re not well read, don’t vote.

            That appears to be the implication, which seems like common sense, and I actually agree with, but if Keith Olberman said what Rowe said, we all know FOX would spin it a as typical liberal academic snobbery.

          • willbest

            Of course, but which Hillary voters tune into Fox News? Liberals looking for 2-minute hate drills? He isn’t walking into Yoga studios and telling people to vote. Leo isn’t standing up at a NASCAR event and doing it. 90%+ of the people that are likely to hear their message are going to vote the way they want them too.

            Its the neutral on its face, disparate impact thing. And I would be more inclined to believe that Fox News would attack Rowe than Olberman because if you are in a “win at all costs” mode, the people shooting at your side (ie. 90% of Mike Rowe’s audience) need to be dealt with. The people shooting at your enemies… well you just watch them do it.

          • I watch Fox. It’s HILARIOUS!

            Then again, I don’t vote for hill

            And lots of Hillary voters watch Fox.

            As a matter of fact, a few of them WORK for Fox.

            Do ppl from National Review watch fox? The Bush’s?

            I don’t think the avg person knows the political stance of celebrities.

            I know I don’t.

            Joey from Friends could be a nazi for all I know.

          • willbest

            How many liberals watch Fox and will forget to vote?

            And I just assume that all celebrities are leftist until they appear at the RNC or go on a drunk anti-Semitic rant. Doesn’t the average person?

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Did you ever think that what you call left is, in fact, the center?

          • willbest

            How are you defining it? Because 47% of the country voted for Romney, the GOP controls the House, Senate, and most the State governor mansions and legislatures.

            If you go issue by issue, you might be surprised where the center actually is.

            Obviously people are more complicated. There are people like Sac who are pro-gun, but for wealth redistribution. So there is some simplification with left/right

          • Sactowns#1

            Republicans controls a lot of state seats because of their overwhelming spending on races which impact redrawing of districts. If you look, republican seats correlate to redistricting efforts. Which makes their fascination with “voter fraud” laughable.

          • willbest

            *yawn* The Dems do it too, GOP lost 6 seats in IL after the 2010 redraw. Too the victor goes the spoils. But here is one for you Sac. 56% of people want Hillary prosecuted. That is more than want to vote for her.

          • I don’t make grand assumptions like that.

            Kim Kardashian telling ppl to vote is not exactly Machiavellian leftist propaganda that will sway elections.

          • SC Dave

            His whole point, viz. that encouraging the ignorant to vote is not a good idea.

      • AlbertInTucson

        And if you DON’T pay taxes, you don’t vote.

        You just funnel Millions of dollars to the campaign of your choice which gives you much more influence than actually voting.

        The Supreme Court ruling that blessed that practice ranks with Dred Scott as one of the worst in history.

        • So Trumpf won’t even be able to vote for himself.

          Brilliant, Al!

          • willbest

            I noticed nobody cares about money in politics now that Hillary and Co are outspending Trump somewhere around in the 3 or 4 to 1 range

          • I care, but it doesn’t matter. Which candidate will make finance reform a platform?

            Not a Dem or Rep.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Jesus would do that.

          • Indeed, Bernie would.

            Another Jew killed by Rome!

            🙁

          • willbest

            I am curious how you envision an election going with restrictions on money. Like exactly how do you plan on policing it.

            The e-mails today from wikileaks show the Clinton campaign making board of director recommendations to pro-Clinton Super PACs. They show an attempt to bribe Illinois Democrats to move the IL primary in order to hurt moderate republican chances at winning the GOP nomination.

            So what mechanism do you think could possibly exist to do what you want? and what is it you want anyway.

          • I would start off with a few initiatives.

            For one, I think there should DEF be a $ cap.

            It’s outrages what nominees must raise, and presidents start “campaigning” just 2 yrs (or sooner) into office. That’s a crime.

            I’m not sure what the exact $ should be, but it should be enough for other parties like the socialist, green, communist, libertarian, etc to be able to participate in.

            Secondly, free air time for “serious” candidates equally (esp debates). I’m not exactly sure how we would determine “serious” but I think the political machine can figure it out on a commons sense basis (One person per party, maybe? – including 3rd/4rth parties).

            Thirdly, cut out all the “loopholes” like a ‘conference in 5star hotel in Aruba” and the such. There’s so many of these, we’d have to really have to go through a lot of fine print with a fine tooth comb, and be vigilant for further loopholes powerbrokers will try to created to squirm into influence.

            This should be a good start of not making politicians into wall street/union/lawyer whores.

            Close the

          • willbest

            Here is the problems with limits. If I want to let the world know how bad Trump is and I decide that the way to have done it was with a 30 second slot during the super bowl, and 30 second slot in opening ceremonies for the Olympics, and a few other places totaling a mere 5 minutes. It could cost me $15 million dollars. For 5 minutes of speech. And thats just the speech. I might need another $5 million in private investigative staff to track down 35 year old grope victims and make sure their stories check out.

            Take Alex Jones for example. He is paying people $5000 to show up at Clinton rallies holding Bill is a rapist signs and getting on TV. He presumably has spent $100k on that so far.

            In 2008 Obama bought a 30 minutes infomercial in prime time. Should a candidate now be allowed to do that, and if I don’t like the candidate that much should I not be allowed to do it?

            The problem is when the bounty is a $3 trillion annual budget, the 2-3 billion that gets spent on each presidential election cycle is 0.025% of the reward. How much money do you think is a good amount to spend to figure out who should manage and determine how $12 trillion is spent?

          • I think campaigns much like the NFL should have a CAP.

            And much like the NFL, it’s up to the ‘teams’ to decide what to spend it on.

            If they want to blow it all on a SB ad, or little by little on paying ppl to go door to door, that’s up to them.

            If they are found guilty of going over the cap, the party gets penalized next election (they’ll have less cap).

            And the air-time “paid for by…blah blah” will be equal too.

            The commies and libertarians pro/con ads will be the same as dems/rep

            I think that would be a start.

            As for exactly what that cap should be, that I wouldn’t know off the top of my head, but I would figure that out first with top political and economic minds.

          • willbest

            But the difference is, there are 180 million “teams” in the US. When it says paid for by priorities USA that is really just Green, Brown, Smith, Carter, etc. They should all get the same amount of say as Hillary Clinton.

          • What I mean by “teams” is for instance, the Republican party, or Democratic Party, or Libertarian Party.

            They each will have a hard cap they must abide.

            And I don’t think EVERY party should be included in every cycle.

            I would likely limit it to like 5 parties. Dems, Rep, Libertarians, Communists, Socialists, Green.

            I think that would cover the majority of americans.

            If some other “independent” makes a serious run, a ross perot type, then rules now apply to him/her (but s/he would really have to make some waves).

            And all those little think tanks or political hit men can do anti-whatever ads all they want, but they’re all gonna even out.

            So for instance, if there’s 10 anti-hillary commercials, there’ll be no more than 10-anti trump commercials (same amount of time too), etc.

            And I would probably limit the amount of anti-commercials too. Again. to reduce cost.

          • willbest

            Well the cost of a Presidential election right now is insignificant relative to what is at stake. 3 billion sounds like a lot but its not.

            But you are restricting speech, so you are demanding a change to the first amendment, or just 5 men/women in robes to do it.

            Anyway, to get the variety you want you should be looking at an open primary with a top X run off. But the reason you only have 2 options is because the WTA system eliminates all but 2 parties and then you are left with only two party apparatuses of any significant size. Even if you outlawed all TV/mail/radio ads, except for debates where you mandated 5, and media appearances that had to all be equal, you would still only ever have winners from 2 parties.

            You not only have to go after freedom of speech, but freedom of association too. The ONLY way to get more parties in the US is to end WTA districts and move to proportional representation. This the only way to develop the infrastructure you are looking for to allow more than 2 parties to exist in anything but a fleeting moment.

          • 3 billion and all those other loopholes is enough to buy presidential influence.

            Compared to our gross output, perhaps it’s minuscule, but if Goldman Sachs drops a 100M in a fund, it’ll corrupt.

            If it’s A LOT lower, maybe it won’t influence as much.

            And ppl are free to speak, but I don’t necessarily think that should apply to presidential elections and tv/radio/internet ads.

            What happens is all these think tanks pay for “anti-campaigns” and they too get rewarded if their guy gets elected. It’s another back door to influence.

            There’s really no need for all those commercials anyways. Again, it’s just another way for outsiders to influence the president, and another way of shutting out Libertarians and other parties.

            As for proportional representation, I say yes. Makes sense.

            The fear originally was that more than 2 parties would paralyze a government, but other countries like Germany, Finland, etc have proven that countries can function under such system.

            Can it be worse than our do-nothing congress?

            But, not sure if proportional representation is a must with what I’m proposing.

            Like I said. Hard cap. Close loopholes. Equal air time. Reduce all the ads and such.

            Don’t need to fundamentally remake the constitution.

            It’s a pragmatic solution. The founders I’m sure NEVER envisioned campaigns costing so much, or the advent of the tv and internet. We must adapt or go extinct.

          • willbest

            Well what you are proposing is a violation of free speech. “You can say what you want, just not on TV or radio, unless you own the TV or radio station.” I guess that is fine, we only pretend the Constitution means anything anyway. But I want a new document with a new set of rules. Because I am sick and tired of finding new shit that only a person with an Ivy league education could possibly find in it every year.

            I am telling you it wouldn’t matter about air time. You could literally bar the Dems and GOP from ever putting an ad on and give $100 million to the libertarians and Green party each and they would win exactly no states because they have dick all for infrastructure. And proportional is the only way to get that sustainable, because without the ability to dole out favors from the government to their supporters the Green/Libertarian parties can’t exist.

          • What I mean by free speech, is PAID ads on any media.

            They need to be limited, and IMO, equal (or at least relatively equal)

            If talking heads want to rail against candidates, so be it, but I don’t think any think tank or PAC or even person (whether it’s Oprah or Ailes) should be able to dole out 500 billion on ads for certain candidates.

            I don’t consider that “a right”, and as is apparent, corruptive.

            The other parties will have to figure it out themselves. They’re in the minority anyways, but MAYBE, just MAYBE, if the masses get exposed to a non-rep/dem candidate on equal footing, maybe real change will happen.

            And if the public keeps on with the Blues and Reds, at least those pricks should be less beholden to “donors” – like 2Billion less beholden, and could actually focus on doing their job as opposed to whoring for $ two years into their term.

            (A 6 year one term limit can also solve this)

          • willbest

            But if you limit ads, then controlling maddow and o reily becomes exponentially more valuable. The bias out of Fox and CNN this election is worth billions if you had to pay for it.

            And you want to limit the ability to counter it with paid advertising

          • AlbertInTucson

            Bernie is Judas. He sold out.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Hillary either. She paid zero taxes last year.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          How bout if each candidate loses one vote for every lie they get caught in. That would be fun.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Bring a calculator.

    • BuddhaJoe

      One of many great George Carlin quotes about politics. “What we need is a king. And every couple of years, if he’s not doing a good job, we kill him.”

  • BuddhaJoe

    The season of horror movies begins on AMC finally! The Rob Zombie remake of Halloween followed by the original, which is the only time I’m torn on which is better. Almost as scary as Brian Hoyer at QB.

    • MB30SD

      Escared

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not a fan of the genre.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Well I’m a wierdo, so no shame in not following in my footsteps. I love em though, especially the cheesy awful ones.

        • AlbertInTucson

          That’s OK. To each his own.

          I’ll watch FORBIDDEN PLANET, THE DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL (No, not the Keanu Reeves mess) or THEM anytime I run across ’em.

          The only Zombie movie I’ve EVER watched, and I have watched a LOT of movies, is ZOMBIELAND.

          I got a kick out of it.

          Martial arts movies don’t do anything for me, either.

          • BuddhaJoe

            Those are all good. Zombieland especially, I love zombie movies but that’s the only modern one I like.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            You and I both, Al.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Watch, The Foot Fist Way.

          • SC Dave

            Not even Kung Pow? A truly bad movie. Bad enough to be good.

    • Bender McLugh

      Remake is awesome man

      • BuddhaJoe

        Rob Zombie was a horror geek, so it’s not surprising he made a good one. They redid Friday the 13th and Nightmare and those both sucked, but they didn’t have a guy like him in charge.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Jeff –

    Here is the new GIF for the homepage

    http://www.epguides.com/ArchieBunkersPlace/logo.jpg

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Jeff’s meathead?

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        As long as I can be Sammy Davis Jr.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          I’m slow today, que me in.

  • popsicles vs crips on CBS

    • willbest

      Only the last 5 minutes should be entertaining.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      was these hideous color schemes the NFL’s idea or Nike’s? my guess Nike’s and they had to pay a crap ton of money to do it.

      • SC Dave

        Pretty sure it was Nike’s idea.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Did you know the Nike logo is a depiction of Saturn’s ring? An interesting fact I picked up on one of my YouTube studies. Lol

    • BerwynBomber

      Appears everyone of these Thurs night games will be “color rush” unis.

      • Glad I’m not color blind!

        Supposedly a lot of color blind ppl complained when the Bills (all red) played the Jets (all green).

        • BuddhaJoe

          Shouldn’t they have been grateful for not being able to see that shit?

          • Unlike us Bear fans on Sun!

          • BuddhaJoe

            Well at least I have an excuse to drink on those days. The other days are just……yeah

  • Huge Bears Penis

    can we trade for that punter?

    • willbest

      Ours is the 31st best punter in the league, why would we do that?

      • Huge Bears Penis

        He is a competitor so I bet he can get to 32nd.

  • Why are those tarps so close to the sideline?

    Bush blew out his knee on those tarps, and tried suing the NFL because of it.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      i thought he blew it out on the concrete in St. Louis, now NFL requires tarps or other coverings.

      • yeah, u might be right.

        But won’t cleats get stuck into tarps? (Which seems kinda dangerous when going full speed).

        Maybe they should just pour some sand over there to slow them down, like on some highways.

  • I’m curious how the Chargers will lose this one in the last two mins.

  • BearDown100393

    Fighting breast cancer by dressing like pumpkins.

  • And THAT is why ratings are lower.

    SHITTY reffing.

    • Malice Halice

      Didn’t they just get a raise a few years back

    • BerwynBomber

      Election year and Kap protests.

      • Malice Halice

        Yea, isn’t it true more ppl watch the Super bowl than vote for president? (excluding Obama 1st run)

        • BerwynBomber

          That’s the SB. We’re talking regular season. And Trump’s a nightly train wreck.

          • Malice Halice

            Ohhhh… I was about to say y watch ppl that makes you angry but then again I AM a bears fan so.

          • BearDown100393

            Trump should be the Half Time Show.

          • Malice Halice

            Trump at a 9ers game! Lol the shit he’ll say about Kap would be hysterical.

          • willbest

            Worse than Notorious RBG?

          • Malice Halice

            Idk trump can do damage with mouthpiece of his. Rbg had to stay classy somewhat but Trump? Shiiiiit

    • BearDown100393

      I don’t mind TNF, MNF, SNF and Game Day. But for many, it is overexposure.

      • I don’t really get the “TNF sucks shorter week” argument.

        Then wouldn’t that mean MNF games are better than Sun games by same logic?

        There’s plenty of shitty games on SUN too.

        That Dallas/Bengals game was supposed to be good, and it ended up being a snoozer.

        Or that Eagles-steelers sun night game (34-3).

        The players might not like it cuz they’re creatures of habit, but I personally don’t mind them.

        Shitty NFL is still better than whatever else is on Thurs or Mon

        • Malice Halice

          Preach! Tuesday is Atlanta, Weds is AHS, Friday is Friday. Football in between. Life is good.

        • willbest

          I think there is a legitimate player safety issues associated with only 3 days of recovery.

  • Malice Halice

    Bosa got some moves

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    1979? Give me a break.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/10/jessica-leeds-donald-trump-accuser-cnn-229776

    Hillary had some old bimbos waiting in the wings for the big push.

    • So, some hot chick “coincidentally” got upgraded to 1st class right next to “octupus pussy grabbin and tagging’ Trumpf?

      Why do I get the feeling that Trump paid for both seats, left one open, then paid a stewardess to recruit a hot serf from the commercial class to come sit next to papa money.

      And supposedly the other incident also took place in a plane, albeit his private one.

      MB, you’re doing it wrong!

      • willbest

        As I have said elsewhere, Were there just orgies a plenty going on in airplanes 1979? Nobody in first class saw this?

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        Serfin the Tasty Waves

      • MB30SD

        All i need now is a couple bill.

    • willbest

      Anything to distract from the wikileaks revelation that Qatar (the same government that funds ISIS) gave Bill a $1 million dollar birthday present.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

  • Bosa already looks better than Floyd.

    Did the media divulge which party caved in on his deal?

    Pretty sure it was SD.

    ClownShoes.

    • BerwynBomber

      Although that first half sack he had was a pure coverage sack. Impressive spin moves but he was going nowhere until Semien decided to run toward him.

    • MB30SD

      He was #2 right… what a difference 5 spots makes huh

  • AlbertInTucson

    Derek Anderson scored me 1 point in FF this week.

    But it was the difference between falling to 3–1 or going to 4-1.

    True to my team’s motto: “We’d Rather Be Lucky Than Good!”

  • willbest
  • PaceBot 2000

    Rivers is such a fag

    • BerwynBomber

      But damn good though too. I wonder if he has an outside shot at the Hall. Lots of INTs but lots of productivity too. Could be a multiple vote/borderline case at some point.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Butch would die if Cutler settled for this many field goals from the red zone. He’d be calling for Hanie.

        • BerwynBomber

          I don’t know Waffle. DEN’s D is still pretty formidable. They’re fast all over.

        • As long as Cutler isn’t throwing INTs and those FGs are because of stupid redzone penalties., I’m fine with it.

          Big IF for Cutty.

  • BearDown100393

    #Slauson

  • McCoy coaching for job tonight.

    • willbest

      4th quarter… they will blow it.

    • willbest

      I am about to turn it on actually.

    • BerwynBomber

      I thought he was doing that last year and failed. Was surprised they brought him back.

    • BearDown100393

      And if the Chargers blow this game, nobody would be surprised.

  • BearDown100393

    Joe DeCammillis reminds me of Hank taking over for Larry Sanders when sick. For one night, everyone was supportive. The second night, he overplayed his hand and wound up sitting second banana back on the couch.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Dressed up garbage time?

    • MB30SD

      Nah, here comes the fumble and Broncos score

  • PaceBot 2000

    Act like you’ve been there before Joe.

    • MB30SD

      Has He?

      Wasn’t that idiot our specials coach?

  • willbest

    Did lynch get benched? Why is Trevor out there?

  • MB30SD

    Here we go

  • PaceBot 2000

    Gotta call a time out after that sack. Joe D lost about a full minute. Nice!

    You ever work for a boss you knew more than?

  • willbest

    This is unreal

  • ohhhh. Rage boner stage 2

  • wow. redzone penalties. KILLL

  • willbest

    Seemed questionable. Looked like the ball was out before the hold

  • BearDown100393

    Flaccid now.

  • Redzone penalty to kill drive. Annndd a WR fumble to ice the game

    Deja Vu

  • willbest

    Wow that isn’t supposed to be how it goes

  • Now we know why Kubiak is in the hospital.
    If Fox still gave a fuck, he’d be in the bed next to him.

  • Will and I did agree on one thing – that the Raiders would make waves this season.

  • willbest

    Is JoeD acting HC?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Yes. Migaine troubles for Kubiak, I believe.

  • willbest

    I like the yards to my rb but that isn’t how you are going to win this. Jump ball to DT for redemption is the only way to go

  • PaceBot 2000

    Semen is such a cuckold

  • Pulled a Fox, icing the onside

  • willbest

    Ahahaha

  • lol u have GOT to be kidding me

  • is that technically a turnover?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think it should be.

      I think turning it over on downs should count as a turnover as well.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Too bad you dinked and dunked too much earlier….

  • AlbertInTucson

    I say “No catch”.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Need to take 2 shots. Lynch in bomb it.

  • 6% chance of recovering the onside.
    Which is actually 4% better chance than the previous times the Chargers lost.

  • willbest

    How the fuck can’t you handle 3 man rush

  • wow. Who was on the left streaking?

    Looked open to me

    • PaceBot 2000

      Alshon?

      • MB30SD

        Ha!

        • PaceBot 2000

          Who’s that yelling? A practice squad guy?

          • The CAPTAIN of the D.

          • PaceBot 2000

            The captain of the practice squad D?

          • Now McPhee is a ps guy? lol

          • PaceBot 2000

            What fucking chooch yells at a starting quarterback after a pick. Like a common hood rat?

            That’s no fucking captain.

          • PaceBot 2000

            That awkward moment when you’re hurt and in street clothes and yelling at the guy who tried to play hurt.

          • That only makes Cutler look worse.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Naw. Only to the white fantasy manager. Real football is different.

          • Malice Halice

            Yea it did. That play wasn’t his worse turnover but McPhee spoke for the mass.

          • PaceBot 2000

            That was a bitch move. A Marty Bennett move. Not a pro move. You think Killer Ray ever pulled that shit? That was a fake ass captain move. .

          • MB30SD

            I liked that movie. They should reboot that mofo

          • PaceBot 2000

            Reboot evrry movie.

      • Scharfinator

        Too soon

  • PaceBot 2000

    Wow, that gave whites a bad name. What a cuckold.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Got to at least get it into the end zone, son.

    • MB30SD

      Looked like a robbie kickoff

    • He hurt his shoulder before – maybe that limited him?

      Or maybe he just doesn’t have an arm.

  • MB30SD

    Oh wow gosh. Golly gee.

    Shut up you fucking tool rivers. Smh. Hate that fuck

    • You wouldn’t have wanted Rivers on the Bears the last 7 years?

      Most QBs are annoying in one way or another.

      Eli with his asburgers. Brady with his bitching. Vadgers with his beard…

  • AlbertInTucson

    The 7th inning of the baseball game took over an hour to complete. The Nats set a record for most pitchers used in 1 inning. SMH.

  • I’m trying to think, who is the least irritating (starting) QB?

    Hmmmmm

    Cam has his ‘swag’ lots don’t like. Luck is an Amish soap salesmen. Wilson is selling bottles of holy water to heal ACL tears.

    Alex Smith?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Yeah, good for the Chargers. They threw away the games they lost this season.

  • Bender McLugh

    Shark Cage??? No thanks, this dude is lucky as hell

    • MB30SD

      Damn

    • SC Dave

      Luckier than the poor shark.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        http://tinyurl.com/j6e3f2x

        “Tell me again Dave, about the poor Shark”

        • MB30SD

          Hahahahaha… that’s creepy as fuck

        • PaceBot 2000

          Lol

      • Bender McLugh

        “live by the shark tooth die by the shark tooth” – said no one ever

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      What a fucking ballsy move to squeeze out through the bottom of the cage while that thing freaked out. He just waits it out and comes up unharmed.

      #Experience

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