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Match-ups That Matter: Eagles at Bears

| September 15th, 2016

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It’s hard to read too much into what the Eagles did to the Browns last week. The Browns are a triple-A franchise right now. But there was enough to digest in those sixty minutes. Which match-ups matter most Monday night?

VIC FANGIO V. CARSON WENTZ

It is the single biggest mismatch in the game.

  • In 2015, Carr got to 20, Osweiler got to 17 and Winston got to 21. Fox and Fangio’s defense managed to keep rookie/new starting quarterbacks in check, especially at Soldier Field.
  • The Bears have a lot of potential looks to show Wentz and many of those looks will be ones he’s never seen before. They can blitz from five different positions. Their outside linebackers are all capable of dropping into coverages. This is the kind of night where the Bears need Fox and Fangio to play chess and make the kid uncomfortable. Just lining up and playing ball, which is a lot of what they did in Houston, won’t work.
  • The Bears run defense found something in the second half against Houston. If the Eagles don’t make the down/distance easy for Wentz, he’ll struggle.

Β WHITE & ROYAL V. EAGLES SECONDARY

Four thoughts:

  • I can’t imagine the Eagles coaching staff watching the Bears/Texans tape and having any thought other than, “we can’t let Alshon Jeffery beat us”. Expect Jim Schwartz to try and take Jeffery away all afternoon by pushing safeties in his direction.

  • From Paul Domowitch, who’ll be appearing on the Weekend Show tomorrow: “On defense, the pass rush needs to be more consistent and they must do a better job against the deep ball.” The Bears are going to have multiple opportunities in the passing game, especially deep, because the Bears offensive line/scheme should be able to handle the Eagles pass rush.
  • Robert Griffin threw a few deep balls Sunday against this secondary. They weren’t thrown to anyone in particular. They were just kind of thrown. And oddly they were completed even though there were several more green than brown jerseys in the general region of the football. Is that just a blip on the season’s radar? Possibly. Or it could be that this secondary lacks ball awareness and will struggle against a solid collection of receivers Monday night.
  • If Leodis McKelvin is out with injury, and it looks like he may be, the Eagles will be starting 7th round pick Jalen Mills. The Bears will pick on him. A lot.

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  • MB30SD

    Konichiwa bitches.

    Gonna be awesome to get our first W if the year in the international stage.

    Oh and fuck the iggles

    • willbest

      I worry about the fact that it is a home game, and we suck at those

      • We kinda suck at road games, too.

        • MB30SD

          SuckED

          • past tense, huh? that’s why we blew them texans up?

          • MB30SD

            settle down

          • deep down, in a place you don’t talk about at parties, you want me on that wall. you need me on that wall.

      • MB30SD

        SuckED… past tense baby.

  • Captain Obvious

    Match up that matters: me vs. beer. WHO WILL WIN?

    • Huge Bears Penis

      I am predicting a blowout. Beer will put the game out of reach by 10 minutes into the 1st quarter. Knockout will be 5 minutes into the 2nd quarter.

      • Scharfinator

        Obv will boot and rally in the 4th, but will it be enough?!

        • Huge Bears Penis

          i foresee him having to enter into the Concussion Protocol by the next morning. headache, vomiting, dizziness.

          • Scharfinator

            Hah! Don’t forget memory loss πŸ™‚

    • beninnorcal

      Beer is undefeated.

    • Sactowns#1

      Like any matchup it’s all about your competition. Going up against Bud Light, you got this. going up against Pliney The Elder, you will lose horribly.

  • BearDown100393
    • SC Dave

      Quite the tale.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    It has been mentioned on here several times that the Bears Home fans don’t know how/when to cheer properly during the games. If only there was a group of people, let say women, that could lead the fans on when to cheer, we could call them Cheerleaders. BRING BACK THE HONEY BEARS!!!!!

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  • Bears-4-Ever

    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/bill-belichick-isnt-bending-to-nfl-kickoff-rule-and-others-may-follow-suit-001819719.html

    Interesting article on what the pats did to counter the new kick-off rule. I actually like it. Too many new rules are spoiling this game.

    Bears – 28
    Eagles – 21

    BEAR DOWN.

  • willbest

    NFL ratings off 5-8% compared to week 1 in 15 and 14, Billionaires aren’t going to like when that gets reflected in the ad price. If it isn’t an aberration its going to crunch the cap. Upshot is it will likely get Rodger fired.

  • GPLDAN, Dicking Bimbos

    I lived about 2 miles from the Ramsey’s in Colorado when the murder happened. The Boulder cops massively fucked up the investigation. They let the crime scene get tampered and they let every conspiracy idiot have a voice. It got wrapped in politics and weirdos came out of the woodwork to confess. Colorado has a lot of weirdos in its woodwork.

    After all the bullshit and reading evidence and looking at all the documentaries and agenda setting idiots have their say, I am 99 percent certain what the truth is.

    Patty killed her. Patty was a DEEPLY disturbed person and choked out her little girl. She then staged the assault and used DNA she had from fucking behind her husbands back and wrote the ransom letter.

    Seeing her son Burke now and seeing how fucked up he is, that is the clincher. She did it.

    In case you wanted to know. Always bugged me because I was there near the circus when it went down

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Scary shit.

    • BerwynBomber

      But wouldn’t Patsy’s DNA be found in the dude’s semen?

      It always sounded to me like Boulder Police had their narrative pre-written — the Ramsey’s did it — and then once an outside party’s DNA was found in the girl’s vagina they had no Plan B for their investigation.

      Btw, is this news again?

      • GPLDAN

        It seems to be news again. 2 new documentaries and Dr. Phil had Burke on yesterday. Burke is whacko Jacko.

        Patsy had somebody’s untainted jizz for this. Maybe she took a facial. Not sure. I do think it threw the investigation into chaos when it was leaked by the Ramsey lawyer though. It was a brilliant play. Really fouled everything up, that and the stupid basement window and the lies about the snow and footprints and just a ton of shit that clouded everything after.

        • BerwynBomber

          I don’t know, GP. Given the DNA, Occam’s razor would tell us it was some random pedophile POS who was never caught.

          I was always dubious of the Ramsey case as well as the Chandra Levy/Gary Condit one. Too little physical evidence and too much Nancy Grace.

    • MB30SD

      There’s a show on bravo or one of the other garbage channels called my little pony or some shit. The little gitl pageant circuit is running strong as erra maings.

      There too many freakshow moms for there nit to be. Disgusting.

      On thnot, see bad grandpa with johhny Knox… the pageant scene alone is worth the $2.99 on ppv

      • GPLDAN

        The little gitl pageant circuit is running strong as erra maings

        That’s sad. Should be outlawed.

        • MB30SD

          100%, and those moms should be fined and do community service. Fucking freak shows man. Talk about issues. Who in thee fuck would do that to their baby’s?!?!?

          • Sactowns#1

            Sounds like you’re with the pro burka crowd. haha

      • Johnnywad

        Seconded on both counts.

        And yeah, that pageant scene is $.

      • willbest

        I don’t really see that as much different than mom’s around here doing hyper resume building for their budding Ivy league stars. Its not enough to put the little gal in ballet or tap at the park district. Nope we have Italian last names putting their lass in Irish dance. A polish mother with her 4 year old in some Italian immersion program. And of course Lacrosse and Ice Hockey are big as well is the $1500 a year travel programs over $100 house leagues. The call of “I am bored” from a child is somehow a challenge to the
        parent, to which my response is always “That is a good problem to have,
        you should probably find a solution to it if it bothers you”.

        I feel like I am engaging in experimental parenting by trying to raise my kids more or less how I was raised.

        • CanadaBear

          I get the parents want their kids to be in worthwhile endeavors and keep them busy. Like you, I don’t get enrolling them in so much stuff they (both the kids and parents) run themselves ragged. Up here the cost to have a kid in hockey is a few thousand/year. One of my co-workers had 3 boys in hockey at the same time. Ouch!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I figured Hockey in Canada would be covered by the government, like Health Care.

          • CanadaBear

            Nah. It isn’t through the school system so the parents pay for everything, Ice time, busses, hotels, meals (for the away games), equipment, etc. Check out the cost of hockey sticks ($200+) and how easy they are to shatter these days (thanks carbon fiber). If I grew up in Canada my hockey skills would still be the same (non-existent) because there’s no way there was money available for that stuff and I’m guessing you’d need to sell about 50,000 boxes of chocolate bars to raise enough money.

          • Doc Nitty

            meh. 50,000 boxes of chocolate practically sell themselves.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            This is Canada we are talking about there has to be something. If the government doesn’t cover the cost. Surely there is a religion in Canada devoted to the growth and support of hockey that helps offset the cost. Maybe the “Church of Wayne Gretzky”, “Ministries of the Puck” or “Goalies for God”.

    • BearDown100393

      Yeah but did she vaccinate her daughter????

    • CanadaBear

      Those pageants are beyond creepy. Fortunately whenever I think about them I think of Little Miss Sunshine and laugh like hell. Alan Arkin was crazy funny in that movie.

    • Doc Nitty

      What years did you live in Boulder?

      • GPLDAN

        Late 1990s through early 04.

        • Doc Nitty

          I lived there from ’01-’03. Did you ever use Restaurant Runners?

          Man I had fun living in that town. So many hot Betty’s!

  • GPLDAN

    Adam is probably doing the best actual WORK in breaking down Bears stuff.

    http://wgnradio.com/2016/09/14/hoges-10-bears-things-lets-stop-criticizing-jay-cutlers-emotion/

    In watching the Bears replay, I agree with Adam here. Does White fuck up and break off his route incorrectly? He does. But Cutler actually has about a second or slightly less to SEE this, it’s clear White has quit and THEN Jay throws the ball.

    The break to the outside is a coverage read. It’s a branch route, Kevin has a couple of options there. He’s not experienced enough to know when to branch in vs. branch out, or fly. But Cutler had time, not much time but time, to sail that pass or correct it.

    The other thing that stands out watching the game again is that Miller is slow. Slow routes, slow breaks. Not sure what happened there, but he lost two steps.

  • BerwynBomber

    “If Leodis McKelvin is out with injury, and it looks like he may be, the Eagles will be starting 7th round pick Jalen Mills. The Bears will pick on him. A lot.”
    Not only is he seventh round pick but he played S in college and is thus a freshly converted CB.
    I expect the Bears to dominate this game both offensively and defensively, but am interested in getting a look at Wentz and by extension Pederson. The young QB and the young QB-friendly HC is a smart move in my book. I kinda wish we had done the same thing after ’14 even if the Fox/Cutler pairing makes sense. Regardless, we should crush the Iggles. No way they’re ready yet.

  • CanadaBear

    If the Beloved lose Monday night it might end up being a very long year. Pretty sure the Beloved pull this one out. Let’s hope!

    • BerwynBomber

      Agreed but I think they should do more than squeak by, though of course a W is a W. But we really should beat this Iggles team by a couple of scores.

    • GPLDAN

      If the Bears can’t take care of home with a team with a rookie QB and depleted roster, yeah – then they suck.

  • BerwynBomber

    Zach Ertz is out too. He is one of the better young TEs in the league. Kinda in the Eifert mold, if memory serves.

  • beninnorcal

    Would be nice to turn the tide and see the Bears start winning some home games instead of being road warriors. Well, at least they aren’t road warriors so far this year.

    • CanadaBear

      At some point the Beloved better start winning at home or that crowd will get even uglier than it already is. i bought the Sunday ticket Nessman’s last year. I still regret throwing that money out the window. I expect them to suck again this year and refused to pop for the Sunday ticket. I used to buy individual game tickets back in the day when they were awful (70’s-early 80’s) but there’s no way I’d do that today. Part of that is getting old and part of it is they suck at home and who wants to see them get spanked. I’ve been to about a dozen Bears games and the only one they ever won was the 28-27 comeback over the Chiefs where Walter had that run for the ages.

      • Sactowns#1

        I was able to get the Sunday Ticket streaming for $100 so I grabbed it. Having it on the Roku is great because I can take it to anyones house and watch it. So this Sunday for instance, the Bears aren’t playing so I’ll take it to my friends house who is a chiefs fan and watch over there. The savings in not going to the bar pays for it in 2-3 weeks. haha

        • CanadaBear

          Totally agree about going to sports bars. I don’t drink so I always feel obligated to at least order some food and an iced tea. Not to mention, I find sports bars pretty annoying. Until the Beloved show some solid evidence of improving I’m not buying the Ticket. Now that the Cubs are good it makes it even harder for me to accept how inept the Bears are.

          • Sactowns#1

            What? You don’t want to hear a bunch of Jabronis screaming to high heaven for 3 hours?

          • CanadaBear

            Not to mention the Bears game never has the sound turned up so all the screaming and yelling is always for a different game. I really hate the bars when they are playing the middle of the afternoon game and all the patrons are really firing on all cylinders.

        • Johnnywad

          How did you swing that?

        • Huge Bears Penis

          2-3 weeks? I think I might drink too much.

    • BearDown100393

      8-0 this season at home. 7-1 on the road.

  • BearDown100393
  • BearDown100393

    Vic Fangio vs Brock Osweiler

    How’d that turn out?

    • BerwynBomber

      Ouch.

      Still, Osweiler has a ton more game experience than Wentz. Plus, all Wentz has seen in live real game experience is a college-level team in the Clowns. Fangio’s unit will look like the ’85 Bears compared to those guys.

      Btw, imagine if Wentz pans out. He becomes a perennial top ten QB. Wouldn’t that be another enormous kick in the nut sack for CLE? For decades they have been whiffing on QBs and they finally have the draft pick to select Wentz and they trade it away.

      • Doc Nitty

        I’m pretty sure Clevelands nut sack has been mutilated to the point of numbness by now.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Iggls have a pretty nasty defense. 3 sacks, an INT and a FF last week, plus they knocked out RGIII.

        • BerwynBomber

          Re-read my second sentence. Applies to the Clown’s O also.

  • BerwynBomber

    For all the discussion about CBs on these boards aren’t we still more sketchy at the S position? I’m still not sold on Amos. Irish likes to claim he is tackling machine — maybe so — but the next time I see Amos make a play on a ball in the air it will be the first. And HJQ? I don’t know.

    Seems were more talented at CB than S. Maybe one answer is converting Fuller to S, especially if Hall develops and/or Glenn begins to appear solid.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I saw Amos miss a deep pass, he was out of position, but that was about it. HGJ has been solid throughout. Safeties aren’t a problem right now. Center and Right Tackle are the biggest gaps for me.

      • BerwynBomber

        My point is our CBs are better than our Safeties.

        In terms of Amos … meh … he’s a JAG. A young JAG but a JAG.

  • Jokey

    Nice x’s and o’s article showing how the o-line failed once and succeeded once to pick up stunts. Yes Irish, Whitehair screwed up, we know. http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-offensive-line-blocking-stunts-inside-the-game-20160915-story.html

  • MB30SD
  • Willie

    MB! I remember years ago you suggesting I listen to Wax… I’ve had a few albums on my phone for over a year and just started listening yesterday…. Man, what a breath of fresh air. Thanks for the tip (3 years later!)

    Also, haven’t listened to more than the first 2 songs on the De La album… will do this week.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And thanks to whoever mentioned ‘Narcos’. Never heard of it and just about to finish the first season. Thanks.

      • Willie

        That show was truly a narcotic for me. No matter how much I enjoyed it, I couldn’t stay awake.

      • BerwynBomber

        “Orange was the New Black” was good for a season or two but then it became a bit too silly and formulaic.

        • Sactowns#1

          After listening to Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History of the Khans I’ve been watching Marco Polo. Very good stuff with lots of hot gals.

          • willbest

            I thought the first season was alright, not the biggest fan of the second season.

          • BerwynBomber

            Did you ever catch “Rome”? It was fun for a season and a half or so.

    • MB30SD

      awesome maings. My pleasure. Being a fucking old guy, having the opty to feel cool enough to suggest some cool music makes me feel a little better about my balls falling around my knees

  • GPLDAN

    Malcom says Jay is a little pussy, a bitch who folds when he gets rocked.

    http://www.csnphilly.com/philadelphia-eagles/malcolm-jenkins-jay-cutler-entirely-different-quarterback-when-pressured

    Malcom should eat a dick. Now I really want us to fuck them up.

    • CanadaBear

      Let’s see if he’s still talking on Tuesday.

    • BearDown100393

      Unleash the hounds Vic. Unleash the hounds.

    • beninnorcal

      Also false. I was at the Niners-Bears game in ’14 when he took a helmet to the gut that probably made his bellybutton touch his backbone, then he threw 4 TD’s. You can say alot about Jay, that he forces bad throws and has a ‘resting bitch-face’, but you can’t really call him a pussy.

      • willbest

        I would have checkout after taking 250 pound man to the chest like that.

      • MB30SD

        man, I forgot what a win that includes 4 TDs feels like. : (

        I really want to feel that again. Please jebus

        • GPLDAN

          Can I remember the last time the Bears scored 28?

          I can’t.

          • CanadaBear

            I had to look it up. The Rams last year. Scored 37!

          • MB30SD

            sucks. THIS YEAR BABY!

    • BerwynBomber

      That’s somewhat true of every QB in the league.

      No biggie. A “duh” statement. But I suppose could be used as bulletin board material. If we need it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      “…when the Bears went out to a 14-0 lead.”

      Except the Bears never led 14-0.

  • willbest

    Trump down by 3 in Rhode Island and Maine? And those polls were taken before people learned that a warm conference room could take Hillary Clinton down.

    • Sactowns#1

      Arent most of these polls conducted by media companies. The same media companies that would stand to benefit from increased add spending in what’s perceived to be a close election? Just sayin.

      • willbest

        The Maine poll is Colby College/SurveyUSA. The Rhode Island poll is Emerson College. Is it your contention that it is impossible for Trump to win, and the polls currently showing a horse race are being conducted with the purpose of duping both candidates into collectively spending north of a billion on TV ads?

    • GPLDAN

      Did Bill give Hill the clap?

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      I was reading that the alcoholic beverage companies were funding the anti-marijuana campaigns going on around the country. I have to imagine they are getting a heavy assist from the tobacco companies. This is probably why he is being brought on.

  • GPLDAN

    Did Waffle die?

    • MB30SD

      no, they just dropped him into a foreign enemy country to reek (spelled correctly) havoc .

      …either that, or one of those teenagers who constantly pretends to shoot at him, finally actually did (hopefully not of course)

      • GPLDAN
      • willbest

        spelt dammit. Make America British Again.

      • Cormonster

        I thought Waffle and the Yes Man were island hopping in the Caribbean, touring rum distilleries and spending the evenings getting drunk on $2 bottles of rum on the beach while converting the natives into Bears fans

        • MB30SD

          man that sounds nice

  • Johnnywad

    Gonna sit down and watch Matty run the ball. Just for fun. No stress.

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