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For Cameron Meredith & the Bears, An Opportunity Emerges

| October 10th, 2016

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Kevin White was supposed to be the story of the 2016 Bears. But a second leg injury and second season lost have marred the development of the freakish athlete thought to be Chicago’s “next big thing”. The most likely scenario for White is the Gravitron spins again at the Feast of Football, 2017.

Enter Cam Meredith.

A local kid from Berwyn (an area I only know because of the great music venue FitzGerald’s), Meredith went undrafted out of Illinois State in 2015. Due to severe injuries at the position, his rookie year saw him on the field far more than anyone expected. Production? Not so much. But throughout 2016’s off-season program word started to circulate that Cam’s game was coming into form. He looked terrific in Bourbonnais, with Marquess Wilson’s injury opening the door for a fourth receiver. Even some commenters to this site (IrishSweetness) were lauding him as possibly the best receiver on the roster.

It took the perfect storm. An injury to Kevin White. An injury to Jay Cutler. Brian Hoyer’s bizarre desire to throw the ball to people not named Alshon Jeffery.

2 catches against Dallas.

4 cagainst Detroit.

Then the breakout. Indianapolis. 9 catches, 130 yards, 1 touchdown. Did he also fumble at a crucial moment in the game? Of course. But this is no longer a season where wins and losses are the crucial part of the story. The emergence of another talented wide receiver could have huge, lasting implications for the Chicago Bears moving forward.

  • What if Meredith, come December, looks like a top of the ticket wideout? Will this dissuade the Bears from giving the big money to Alshon Jeffery required for his services?
  • Could the Bears enter 2017 with a Jeffery, Meredith, Royal, White collection of receivers that would make it difficult for any quarterback, perhaps even a high-pick rookie, to fail?
  • Might the emergence of Meredith simply take the pressure off White in 2017? If the Bears know they have two top receivers already in place, the development of a third could be looked at as icing on the cake.

Meredith’s development now becomes one of the stories to watch for the remainder of 2016. With Cody Whitehair and Jordan Howard and Bryce Callahan and others across the defense. Meredith has an opportunity to not only be a productive part of the offense moving forward. At only 24, he has an an opportunity to be a cornerstone of the Chicago Bears organization for the next decade. For a kid from Berwyn, that has to be something of a dream come true.

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  • SC Dave

    At this point, it seems Cam is as likely a replacement of White as a complement.

    • MB30SD

      he needs to stop fumbling. Make him sleep with the fucking football.

      • FRANK DELEO

        LOLOLOLOL

  • SC Dave

    On the prior thread, i posted targets to Jeffery by game. It was, iirc, 6 7 6 5 6

    So not a giant difference between Cutler and Hoyer there.

    • Backs up my theory that Birdcage is mainly using Alshon as “decoy” to open up things for Royal, Miller, Meredith.

      All of them have posted big games now.

      To me, it doesn’t matter where the production comes from.

      If Miller caught that final pass last week for a TD to win the game, doesn’t anyone care about Alshon not being targeted 10X a game?

      Most likely the narrative is changed to, “good OC plan to diverisfy attack and keep Ds second guessing’

      • Huge Bears Penis

        the difference between Cutty and Hoyer is the depth of the passes. While Hoyer tends to dink and dunk, Cutty is more proned to try a deep pass(probably too often). Like I said in previous post we need a QB that has a balance of the 2, take shots when warranted to keep Defenses honest but otherwise take the safe completions.

        • willbest

          Perhaps. It does *feel* like Hoyer’s big passing plays come from mid range attacks where the receiver makes a play or exploits a defensive hole. But then Jay wasn’t managing that, and it *feels* like he underthrows players on the long bombs. Jeffery should have a half dozen more TD’s on his stat line if Cutler could hit him in stride after he gets behind the defenders.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            doesn’t even need to be a ‘long bombs’ passes between 15-25 yards just to keep safeties honest.

          • FRANK DELEO

            I think it will come and have you ever seen the routes the bears’s receivers run it is either button hooks stop and go routes and quick screen passes to the wide out’s or long passes to Jeffrey’s they are never speed routes across the field were the receiver’s is hit on the run we do not see this WHY NOT? we do not see a lot of hi lo routes you know all those routes that teams kill us on lololol

            Frank

      • willbest

        Obviously the “what we should have done” is more important when you lose in competitive sports. But no doubt the coaches (if they are half way competent) are going to go over what could have been done better even in a win.

        The narrative for the fan is different. Look at all the stuff we have fixed from week 1 to week 4. O-line playing better, play calling better, monster run game, fewer turnovers, and we still aren’t winning.

        I am beginning to think Stafford played through a concussion at this point.

        • BerwynBomber

          I have long had the same suspicious about Rodgers in the NFCC game in 2010. Peppers went helmet-to-helmet with him (I believe it was in the second quarter or maybe early third) and Rodgers never looked the same the rest of the game. Plus, IIRC the Cheese did not make him available to the media afterward. And they had two week’s time to get him healthy for the SB.

    • FRANK DELEO

      So I am the only one who’s waiting for Hoyer to be Hoyer he needs to see the field better and are we better off with him than with JC

      • Huge Bears Penis

        no

  • I would like to see us use a bit more Braukner too.

    Miller is inj prone, Paulsen merely a blocking TE with some release valve skills.

    Brauck seems like a good prospect. Maybe get him a few more reps.

    • FRANK DELEO

      They only thing I ever see Paulson do is miss blocks and draw flags

  • BerwynBomber

    Hey, we Berwyn residents can dream too. C’mon. (Though technically he played at St. Joes, not Morton West.)

    Anyway, Meredith looks good. But I don’t think that will preclude the Bears from giving Alshon a big, fat, shiny new contract. And yes, our receiving corps is shaping up nicely given we had to overcome White’s injury and should look even better next year. Plus, with the emergence of Howard, we will have weapons everywhere.

    That said, it’s up to Pace to coldly look at this team in the off-season and determine whether we can truly compete for a title next year with Cutler as QB. If the answer is no it is time to move on from nine years of #6 and truly start that total rebuild.

    • willbest

      Let the Tony Romo experiment in Chicago begin!

      • BerwynBomber

        I’ve been a part-time Romo defender over the years, but yikes, he needs to retire. Like yesterday. His injuries make Jay’s look like hangnails.

        And Jerry Jones is fucking nuts saying Romo’s our starter after Prescott’s start to the season.

        • willbest

          Best rookie season in franchise history. Bench him!

          • BerwynBomber

            Idiotic. And even if you think there is a future for Romo, why the fuck would you rush him back when the team is thriving under Prescott.

          • MB30SD

            Yep. My Dallas buddy is just as delusional. Like a fucking cult over there. Smh

          • PaceBot 2000

            Prescott is not coming off the field. Jerry is blowing smoke because there is nothing else that can be said right now. No fucking way they take that kid out at this point. He’s playing with insane confidence right now using his legs, arm, etc.

          • MB30SD

            We’ll see yonny. Seems like lunacy to me too. But the boys faithful seem to be brainwashed

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I don’t know maybe, Jones has a bet with someone to see if he can kill or cripple one of his players.

          • And they have had QBs like Aikman and Staubach.

  • BerwynBomber

    “an area I only know because of the great music venue FitzGerald’s”

    Btw, you may want to check out The Wire too. It is — heading west — right up the street from Fitzgerald’s. I haven’t been in as I was never a huge live music guy, but it is new (opened its doors two or three years ago) and seems to pull in acts on par with Fitzgerald’s. (I get the impression it is more purely rock-oriented than Fitzgerald’s.)

    I’ve walked or driven by the place plenty of times. Looks nice.

  • MB30SD
    • willbest

      Diversity!

    • PaceBot 2000

      I started reading it and was thinking that was a dick move to write that complaint letter to put on a neighbors door. Then I saw the fucking race baiting begin by the “victim” and the support it has garnered and found that even more fucking annoying. Holy shit, it’s not all about fucking black black black.

      #weirdwhiterentersmatter

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        Yeah that’s bullshit. Immediately raise the White Privilege defense and get all bent out of shape, start talking about how you “earned” the right to live there with your salary and shit.

        Race wars be a-comin, holmes.

        • PaceBot 2000

          good looking whites in porsches die first. It’s a by-law of every race riot.

          My defense: “c’mon man don’t kill me, it’s fucking used!”

          • Just grow a ponytail.

            It’s a scientific fact minorities are scared of crackers with ponytails.

            It’s the steven segal effect.

      • MB30SD

        Totally, I didn’t find it even the least bit racist. I think a grump old man posts that letter to any neighbor throwing down at 2am.

        I found it fucking ridiculous.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        I have actually had the cops called on me for being too noisy in my apartment. It was 9:30pm and I was enjoying some music rather loudly while I was getting ready to head out to the Bars. By the time the cops showed up I had the music off and getting ready to walk out the door. Cops and I laughed about the situation, mainly because I knew them. I told them to be ready to return around 2pm because the girl I was planning on bringing back was loud as hell in bed. My point is some people are afraid of any type of confrontation.

        • willbest

          Confrontations with somebody that is already being inconsiderate can lead to volatile situations. Especially when you don’t know them. This is why its important to meet your neighbors when you move in some place.

          I don’t know when it happened but at some point people became social retards

      • SC Dave

        Some asshole is stomping around and waking up neighbors, one of said neighbors calls his inconsiderate ass out, and it’s a “dick move”? Are you fucking kidding me?

        I would have left management out, as everyone of us deserves the occasional mulligan. And used an envelope when taping it to the door.

        But I see nothing wrong with indicating that such behavior is unacceptable.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          don’t need to threaten to call cops unless it is happening on regular and ignored previous requests to stop.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, agreed. Mea culpa, as I didn’t include them with “management”, but that’s what I meant.

            The envelope part was to avoid unnecessary embarassment.

            All assuming, as you did too, that this is not a regular thing.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Brian Hoyer plays football a lot like Chad Pennington used to.”

    Yes, but Pennington was better. And Hoyer has a rifle compared to that pop-gun Pennington had. But Pennington had exceptional touch, which he needed given his lack of arm strength.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      MB has exceptional touch and a big gun. Or so they say on Instagram.

      • MB30SD

        I can neither confirm nor deny said allegations (publically)

      • Huge Bears Penis

        I heard his gun has a hair trigger and prone to go off prematurely, or so they say on twitter.

        • MB30SD

          True story

  • PaceBot 2000

    Holy shit, did you see what the fucking Bears just put out on Twitter?

  • Hoyer strengthening case to retain the Bears starting QB position.

    3 things that stood out Sunday: http://chgobrs.com/2dPcEPt – Official Bears tweet

    https://twitter.com/chicagobears/status/785568964889997312

    This just in, Bears are now trolls according to waffle, and shall change mascots to this

    http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2220/2392237019_01cecd96f8.jpg

    • MB30SD

      Signaling the beginning of cuttys departure from chi?

      • We all know Larry Marry is the front’s office propaganda mouth.

        He’s like a Kumar version of Goebbals

        • Freddy G.P. Soft

          Haji Goebbels.

          #newFFname

        • SC Dave

          I’m not thinking a lot of the tribe will like comparison of one of their own to Goebbels.

    • PaceBot 2000
    • SC Dave

      Read a handful of comments on that. I know why I don’t interact with twitter. 98% are morons.

      • I don’t really interact with twitter all that much.

        From time to time, I reply to Artoo, Ender, Jeff and a few others, but not much.

        And I stay totally away from politics on Twitter. How anyone can debate anything meaniful in 140 characters or less is beyond me.

        I can’t even lay out obvious rational defense that Hoyer is better than Cutler in this O in under 140 characters

    • Random unrelated note: the college I teach at is the Trinity Christian College Trolls. Nice alliteration there. Pretty cool mascot too. It’s been on Letterman for top 10 unique mascots before.

      http://kccollegegameday.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/tr_toll_and_kid.jpg

  • And to follow up, just as I suspected

    “Hoyer said he expected the Colts to double Jeffery on the final play. They did not, had 4 defenders in the middle of the field”

    https://twitter.com/kfishbain/status/785249573291851776

    • and on that note, this sounds an awful lot like Fox defending his starting QB. Kinda funny.

      Fox, on Hoyer not seeing AJ on last pass, “When you’re playing QB, it
      looks different than when you’re in the press box having hot dogs.”

      Dan Wiederer
      ‏@danwiederer

      30m30 minutes ago

      • MB30SD

        rex is our QB

        • If the pressbox hotdogs are as good as the CostCo ones, then I don’t blame them.

          • MB30SD

            that’s a horrible case of ecoli just waiting to happen

          • delicious ecoli

          • Sactowns#1

            Went to a HS game this past Friday. I was starving, so I took my life in my own hands and had a chili cheese dog there. I felt fine, until the next morning.

          • CanadaBear

            How many trips to the throne?

          • Sactowns#1

            Far too many for sure. Rake leaves for 30 min, go hit the head for 20min. Repeat. What was I thinking?!

      • SC Dave

        I love that Fox comment.

    • willbest

      And that is what separates backups from starters. Starters actually see what the Defense is doing before committing to a course of action.

      • SC Dave

        Cutler doesn’t, at least not consistently.

        • willbest

          Which is why he is average and not top 10.

          • SC Dave

            You used the word “starter”, Will.

          • willbest

            Jay will be a starter next year

          • Are you sure about that? I’m not.

          • CanadaBear

            I wouldn’t bet on it.

          • willbest

            I can only see 2 ways Cutler is not a starter next year
            1) We pay him a lot of money to sit on our bench because we drafted the next Dak
            2) He doesn’t want to play for Fitzpatrick money after we cut him

      • BerwynBomber

        That’s not Jay’s strong suit. Never has been. That is why most wish to limit his ability to audible. And that is why the three coaches he was most successful with — Shanahan, Martz and Gase — all did exacty that.

        • willbest

          Well audibles are one thing. This was just paying attention to which way the safety moved after the snap. And no that isn’t something Jay does all that reliably, and even when he does see it he sometimes trusts his arm and/or receiver too much. But what I doubt Jay ever does at 120+ games in is expect a certain pre-snap look to result in a post-snap coverage.

  • CanadaBear

    I like CM (not as much as Irish but I like him) but remember this was the Colts D. Trying to make AJ (is he really coming back?), Royal (will he still be healthy), White (really?) and CM sound like some juggernaut is nuts.

    • BerwynBomber

      LOL. Man, have you gone pure pessimist.

      Nah, I hear ya. But I don’t think it’s a bad group. And let’s be honest, the couple of years we had a Pro Bowl group of playmakers — BMarsh, Forte, Alshon, Uni — we barely capitalized on it. Don’t forget too, Alshon is the best WR not named Stefon Diggs in our division. No small thing.

      • CanadaBear

        I like AJ more than most around here but I think POX will save money and get their guy (whoever that is). You can’t tell me you would be surprised if Royal got hurt again. You’re right I’ve gone to the dark side. I don’t think White will ever be anything more than JAG if he even reaches that level.

        • Freddy G.P. Soft
        • BerwynBomber

          Well, I’ve been a Bears career-long Cutty skeptic so I can’t bust someone’s balls for being cynical about other players as well.

          Who knows with Blogfather? This could be some pre-emptive rationale for re-signing Cutler. Look, we got the weapons! 2017 will be the year!

          • CanadaBear

            Hope you’re correct. I’ve lost faith in the entire org at this point. Still a fan but a really grumpy one.

          • MB30SD

            no shit. come on maings

          • Bender McLugh

            Hang in there Canada. The dark side, clouded in uncertainty it is

          • Canada, we were REALLLY close to winning that game.

            If it weren’t for the stupid penalties and missed K.

            Hoyer was 3 yds away from throwing for 400, 2 TDs, and NO Ints.

            As long as we get that sort of production from the QB, and make some stops, we’ll be in games.

            All of us at least expected to be competitve in games, something to cheer for.

            We have been competitive last two games, and now we have new bloods to cheer for, like Merdith and Howard, and guys like Freeman and Young.

          • CanadaBear

            Being really close to beating a stiff doesn’t exactly give me a chubby. Overall, I’m really happy about Howard and think CM has a chance to be good/very good so there’s that. I’m so deflated by Fox/staff getting out coached week after week. The Beloved beating the Jags would certainly help my mood.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            How’s the knee doing Canada?

          • CanadaBear

            Good man, thanks for asking. 7 weeks today. Still a little discomfort and not 100% stable but I’m not using a cane or crutches for the first time in over a year. Signed up to get the other one done around March or so.

        • willbest

          Wilson has been healthier and done more when on the field. 7th rounder beating a 7th overall. This is why we can’t have nice things

      • MB30SD

        I know, and forte was 12 for 53 this weekend.

        Pine pine piiiiine. : /

        • CanadaBear

          ???

          • MB30SD

            We’re not missing forte

          • CanadaBear

            Is there anything in this thread that mentions Forte (other than your post)?

          • BerwynBomber

            I mentioned him in reference to 2013-14 but certainly never pined for him or wanted him back. Thought he was underappreciated on this blog over the years but was fine moving on from him, though I did not envision a Howard materializing so soon.

          • MB30SD

            I wasn’t directly replying to your post, just talking general shit for all the past pining done here when a few of us were more practical about a 75 year old football player

          • SC Dave

            My thing was they dumped Forte for Langford and Carey. Teamed up with the likes of Joique Bell… ugh.

            Pox got lucky as shit on Howard, who if he continues to play like his is, makes moving on a no-brainer. Unless Matt was willing to take on a backup/mentor role, which I somewhat doubt. Just as I doubt Pox asked him.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t think that’s fair dave. So he got lucky on freeman, trevathan, Howard, meredith, etc…?

          • CanadaBear

            On a 5th rd draft pick looking like a legit 3 down back, for the Bears I’d say that’s practically a miracle. Langford is JAG with a great top end and Carey runs hard but is limited (read slow as fuck). I can’t speak for Dave but my issue with Pace has been horrible 1st rd picks, always looking to go on the cheap, apparently picking a zombie for a HC and his odd habit of releasing guys (or trading away for nothing) that can still play. Not sure if it’s bad luck/judgement but that’s the way it looks to me.

          • MB30SD

            Don’t get snippy with me missy!

            “And let’s be honest, the couple of years we had a Pro Bowl group of playmakers — BMarsh, Forte, Alshon, Uni — we barely capitalized on it.”

            – BB

          • Huge Bears Penis

            there are some of us missing him… not going name names.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahaha

          • Sactowns#1

            You leave me out of this!

    • Bender McLugh

      For one year while Royal still has something left in the tank though….. I would say that’s a talented group

      • Don’t forget, we get the immortal Wilson back in the slot some time this season.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          forget Wilson, the GREAT BRAVERMAN will be in the slot!

        • CanadaBear

          Whew, what a relief!

      • CanadaBear

        If the planets align.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft
    • To paraphrase a medical expert

      “fool needs to stop being a bitch!”

      Actually, here’s the article

      http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/expert-strengthening-kevin-whites-leg-ankle-is-all-important/

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        How about the phrase,

        “Bury my Bentley, bitch!”

        http://www.trueactivist.com/rich-brazilian-man-planned-to-bury-his-bentley-for-a-good-cause/

        I think “Bury My Bentley Bitch” should be a catch phrase.

        • MB30SD

          and the new name of my…. yeah, anyway.

          how’s things going maings?

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            It’s goin.

            I brought the kids to thew new townhome and showed them their rooms and they stayed with me this weekend. I don’t think they liked it or appreciate the change that much, but I think they want to know it will continue to be normal. I told them we would still do all the things we do, together. My daughter wants to do summer vacation in San Diego.

          • MB30SD

            good man, just keep it rolling. it will be/seem normal soon as you know. the only constant in life is fucking change.

            Hells yes maings. will def make time to show you guys around. just let me know enough in advance.

  • TBC

    Smells like marquess spirit

  • MB30SD
  • PaceBot 2000

    Without being annoying I did look at some Draft Big Boards and there is a lot of D talent to be had in the top 20 and a monster OT and a top pass catching TE.
    Myles Garrett DE
    Jonathan Allen DL
    Jabrill Peppers SS/OLB (sophomore, may be too young)
    Cam Robinson OT
    Jamal Adams S
    Lowell Lotululei DT
    OJ Howard TE
    PaceBot, if you fucking pick one of the shitty QB’s i’ll terminate you.

    • SC Dave

      It has been a few years. Peppers was the last lineman that comes to mind there.

      Is Lowell younger brother of Star (Panthers DL)? The dude is not actually a star, but is solid, so the pedigree should be good.

    • Sactowns#1

      A stud OT would be nice. The only reason the cowboys are even able to compete is because of their ridiculous oline.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Dak has been a really nice surprise but his introduction to the league has been way more productive because of the fucking hog beasts in front of him and solid TE play. The kid has moves though without a doubt. He is fucking deadly out of the pocket in the run or pass.

        They also use little Beasley underneath really effectively.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Harbaugh needs Peppers for one more year. One. More. Year.

      • MB30SD

        He’s taking those boys to the title this year. Not sure if they’ll win it, but they’re going.

        F.P.S. be damned!!!

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          There’s gonna be a suicide watch on November 26th in Columbus.

          • MB30SD

            hahahaha

      • PaceBot 2000

        sophomore would get chewed up in the NFL anyway I guess. That kid is Myles Jack part 2.

    • SC Dave
      • PaceBot 2000

        we need to get that swagger back. The days when the D felt it was the duty to not only stop the other team but to take the ball away and score.

  • MB30SD
    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Jerry Seinfeld will grab that.

    • PaceBot 2000

      I can’t read an article about a project porsche because it’s too painful. GP served up a late 60’s 912 on a fucking platter to me and I took said platter and proceeded to pee all over it. I missed the chance and therefore am not worthy of future consideration for any projects.

      • MB30SD

        I like the added details

        • PaceBot 2000

          every story needs context and flavor.

          • MB30SD

            Indeed

  • Freddy G.P. Soft
    • Via Biggsy

      ‘Hoyer hasn’t been INTd in 140 attempts; his only giveaway was a fumble vs
      Cowboys. Cutler has been picked off once every 30 attempts as Bear’

    • CanadaBear

      It was pretty fair overall. Everybody will be piling on except Johnny.

    • PaceBot 2000

      it’s nice to see a new, fresh wave of journalists eager to make a name for themselves. Melissa Jacobs? Ok.
      It would be refreshing if people talked about the Bears in general after the old Guard on the defense got too old and hurt and retired. No one replaced them and the window closed. It closed in epic fashion. I wonder if Melissa could name the last Bears player drafted not named Kyle Long or Alshon Jeffery to go to the Pro Bowl.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m pretty sure she’s the same woman that wrote for the Trib or Sun-Times for years. Not saying she’s great but If it’s the same woman, she could certainly name some draft picks.

        • PaceBot 2000

          then why was this written like 2010, 2011, 2012 never fucking happened and the drafting and FA debacles never happened and the OC insanity. I can’t stand laser focused hit pieces like that that ignore the totality and utter shittiness that Bears represented for years now.

          We WON games in 2010
          We WON games in 2011
          We WON games in 2012
          THe D fell apart in 13/14 and major WR injuries in 2014 derailed everything.

          Our ILB/MLB was in shambles until this year.

          • CanadaBear

            She wasn’t writing War and Peace. One of these days you will have to figure out it’s over and let it go.

          • PaceBot 2000

            you’re right about that, just another clickbait article for a writer looking desperately for the next check.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s just about all of them these days. She was never a fave but I thought she was OK in Chicago. Of course, the bar is ridiculously low in the Windy City.

          • BearDown100393

            Anyone (or thing) is better than Mariotti.

    • BearDown100393

      The clock has yet run out on his potential. Believe in Jay, we must.

    • BerwynBomber

      Hard to argue with much of it … Biggs had a piece after the PHI loss that was more measured but kinda said the same thing. Also mentioned that Pace, Fox and Gase all had doubts about Cutler when they joined the Bears, which kinda surprised me as I expected one might have been a believer.

      • PaceBot 2000

        why are we revising what happened this year? Did Cutler come in and cause false starts and holding calls to kill drives in the first two games? Did he completely shit the bed with his playcalling?
        We could have just as easily run this common sense offense of the past 2 games with Jay at QB while we actually had a healthy D but we didn’t. Everyone knows and can see the changes that happened in the last couple of games.

        • CanadaBear

          Yeah, they played shittier teams.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Birdcage actually stepped up and did his job finally. Why the fuck couldn’t they have done that when everyone was fucking healthy and our starting QB was not hurt?

          • CanadaBear

            But he got hurt in the first game. I agree Mr Lane was hideous.

          • PaceBot 2000

            he reinjured it in the 2nd game and that is when he couldn’t throw anymore. Before he reinjured it he was like 12/15 or something like that including a screen to Miller where he was running backwards and threw a beautiful lead pass because Leno fistfucked his responsibility

            One legged Watt beat Massie INSTANTANEOUSLY on one of those sacks. Birdcage had Jay dropping 5 so Mercilus and Clowney could pin their ears back. mad just thinking about it.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s always something!

          • PaceBot 2000

            that something is called Football.

            Football sometimes occurs during football.

          • MB30SD

            On occasion

          • BuddhaJoe

            Maybe the excuses would stop when they stop being true.

          • BearDown100393

            Because preseason was looked upon as meaningless and the staff is a bit behind the rest of the league upon its value?

          • SC Dave

            How about the OBVIOUS FACT THAT THE OLINE HAD NOT PLAYED A FUCKING GAME TOGETHER YET? That it might take two or three games to integrate a ROOKIE center and a BRAND NEW guard into the line?

            Of course not! It was a conspiracy to make a poor, misunderstood mediocre QB look mediocre.

        • SC Dave

          You’re such an apologist it has become comical. You were pissing about Hoyer getting 500 yards but 23 points, and the primary reason was stupid penalties in the red zone. Did you not see those?

  • If the Bears want to give a young QB a great chance to succeed, I’d start with the OL. Which would turn from a serviceable unit into a great one with a good RT.

    That will have much more to do with a QB’s success than the WRs, IMO.

    • SC Dave

      The more games Whitehair starts with Sitton and Long beside him, the better this line will get. I already like what I see a lot.

      • Agreed. The interior is studly, and Leno is serviceable. But you need a strong RT added in there for a studly OL.

        You don’t want a young QB playing behind a RT who’s going to randomly get him killed 2-3x a game.

        • SC Dave

          Better than an LT doing it. At least he should see it coming.

          Unless he’s a lefty.

  • EnderWiggin

    I’m back after 48 hours of no power. Home is fine and freezer food took minimal damage. Wife and I consider ourselves lucky. Thanks for the well wishes folks.
    Da Bears, man. Should I even watch yesterday’s game?

    • CanadaBear

      Are you mad at yourself? JK. There are some nice highlights, just not enough of them.

      • EnderWiggin

        My wife rolled her eyes when I told her I was the reason the Bears lost.

        • CanadaBear

          They just don’t understand. That was my favorite part of Silver Linings Playbook (other than Jennifer Lawrence). DeNiro and all the superstitions and juju.

          • PaceBot 2000

            it’s weird that Jennifer Lawrence is only a few years removed from letting some Hollywood jag off give her a facial while taking pictures of it.

          • CanadaBear

            Bless her heart! The first time I ever saw her was in Winter’s Bone and she blew me away. I like her attitude and for other obvious reasons.

          • MB30SD

            7… maybe 7.5

          • CanadaBear

            I like her attitude!

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    • SC Dave

      Watch it, if you like to be frustrated by stupid penalties.

      There is good shit to see from Hoyer, Howard, Meredith, and Callaghan.

      And Freeman, of course.

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  • PaceBot 2000

    The good news about the Cutler era ending is that everyone won’t have their fall guy anymore. There will be a lot of “efficient” performances in losing efforts and the light may just go on. I want a real team again and with Jay gone at least it will be harder for people to lock in on what they perceive to be the main reason.

    • BearDown100393

      Jay’s not going anywhere. He will out survive POX.

      • BerwynBomber

        Cutler will be here well into his mid-forties. We will never get rid of him.

        • BearDown100393

          His next start will be magnificent. A successful “Cutler’s Last Stand”. A win and part of the 12-4 run to the playoffs.

          • MB30SD

            Or a 2 int, 2 strip sack standard. Total coin flip. 50/50 chance.

            Or we could roll with hoyer and get 300, 2td, 0 int… and maybe just a thought… use coaching and a little fucking discipline and cut down the stoopid fucking penalties and get a kicker off the local JC.

            Boom, playoffs here we come!!

          • beninnorcal

            MB, I’m not sure Hoyer’s going to keep this current trend going once we face a few teams that aren’t the Colts or Loins. I’m all for pleasant suprises but I won’t hold my breath.

          • MB30SD

            Look man, I’m done. Done with the fucking heckle and jyde man. We know what Hoyer is, but who cares, we’re not going to the playoffs this year even if we could get to 9-7… by divine intervention.

            The timing is right to move on man. It just feels right

          • beninnorcal

            I agree that the time is right to move on, but I’m just saying that we’ve only really seen Hoyer’s ceiling so far. I’m just not too excited about the guy. Jay frustrates me plenty too, but sometimes he plays some really nice games. It’s time though, we can agree on that.

          • MB30SD

            He’s. Hoyer has def impressed me man. He’ll have some bad games, but prolly not 3 ints and a strip sack or two bad games.

          • SC Dave

            Hoyer sees more of the field, gets rid of the ball faster, and makes more shitty, but far fewer stupid, throws.

          • MB30SD

            Damn, that’s fucked up

            And shouldn’t it be, “$20 he shoots the guy next to him instead”?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            If Dilfer can win a SB, just think what Hoyer can do with a bad ass D. Sniff…sniff…I can smell something coming on.

          • MB30SD

            Now all we need is some real DLinemen, a stud FS, and above average OLBs. Boom

          • We reallly need that stud pass rusher.

            We get that, and our D will improve so much. If we can land 2, or if Bullard progresses, we’re $.

          • MB30SD

            Agree

        • SC Dave

          In Cheesy’s dreams.

    • CanadaBear

      You know the old axiom too much credit when they win, too much when they lose.

  • BuddhaJoe

    3 games later and people are still shitting on Cutler even though he hasn’t played. Hoyer showed he ain’t good. Cutler is not great, but good. Why is this so hard? We’ll end up on the 20 year QB carousel soon enough, I’m afraid.

    • MB30SD

      Hahahahahaha…. three 300 yard, 2 td, ZERO INTERCEPTION games in a row.

      You’re 100% right, why’s everyone think the choice is so hard?!?!

      Dooooonnnn’tttt caaaaaaarrreeeee anymore.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Fuck his stat line, I watched that bum the last three games. He’s fucking garbage. 500 yards yesterday and he got it in the end zone twice against a fucking garbage D.

        • MB30SD

          Hahahahhahahaha, is your seeing eye dog a retriever or a lab?

          • BuddhaJoe

            They lost to one of the worst D’s in the league, not sure much else needs to be said, sarcasm aside.

          • MB30SD

            Just done with strip sack cutty man. Over it

          • BuddhaJoe

            Fair enough, sadly there’s no Luck coming out this year. None of the draft potentials have been impressive.

          • MB30SD

            Doesn’t have to be this year… and prwtty sure i didn’t hear dak’s name once during the draft, but here he is

          • BerwynBomber

            I agree. Then again, I didn’t see Wentz coming either and right now I might take him over Luck.

            What they might do is go for a second or third round guy or maybe even trade down in the first. Is the kid from Washington coming out? I would check into his height and arm strength but the kid can read a field, at least when I watched him pick apart Stanford.

          • MB30SD

            He was awesome in that game. Watson looks interesting too

          • You know you want to see some mo of that backpeddling strip sacks!

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Ha

          • SC Dave

            So this. What a tool.

      • SC Dave

        Not just zero interceptions. Also not the four strip sacks that Cutler would give us over three games.

        • MB30SD

          Jes

    • BerwynBomber

      Nah, that line of thought just makes overvalue Cutty and not draft anyone. We need to move forward. Plus, what was so better during the Cutty years vs. the 20 year QB carousel preceding him?

  • BearDown100393

    Before Jay is nailed to a cross in punishment of a 1-4 season (we’re finishing 12-4), let us recall:
    Jimmy Clausen
    Josh McCown
    Jason Campbell
    Caleb Hanie
    Todd Collins
    Kyle Orton
    Rex Grossman
    Brian Griese
    Craig Krenzel
    Chad Hutchinson
    Jonathan Quinn
    Kordell Stewart
    Chris Chandler
    Henry Burris
    Jim Miller
    Shane Matthews
    Erik Kramer
    Steve Stenstrom
    Moses Moreno
    Rick Mirer
    David Krieg
    Steve Walsh
    Jim Harbaugh
    Peter Tom Willis
    Mike Tomczak
    Doug Flutie

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      You forgot Doug Flutie, Mike Phipps and Bob Avelini.

      • BearDown100393

        Eye stand corrected. Edited.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        And lets not forget Vince Evans who was our version of Cutty back in the day.

      • SC Dave

        I will not forgive Ditka for Fucking Flutie until I die. Just lime Richard Dent wont.

    • BerwynBomber

      A few of those guys would have been okay bridge guys for a rookie next year — mainly Griese, Miller and Tomczak. I would say Kramer too but I recall reading that he was pretty much a Farve-like dick in the QB room.

      I always thought Harbaugh would have been a better Bears QB if we had some decent O coaching. His re-birth in Indy seemed to support that thought.

    • MB30SD

      Meh, what have you done for me lately, right

    • beninnorcal

      Don’t forget Cade McNown.

      • CanadaBear

        You Bastard!

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Lol

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Yes lets….just sayin

    • Sactowns#1

      Sexy Rexy took us to the big show baby!

    • SC Dave

      And amomg that whole list, Cutler has done nothing more. And in the case of Grossman, less.

  • beninnorcal

    I really don’t give a shit if the Bears move on from Cutler, I’m tired of all the bickering. But I’m not jumping on the Hoyer wagon anytime soon either. He’s probably going to come tumbling back to earth once he has to play against a competent defense.

    • CanadaBear

      I really don’t care who plays QB down the stretch I’m just ready to cut the cord on Jay.

        • MB30SD

          He should never have gotten hair. Looks like a fucking middle school teacher now

          • BerwynBomber

            Agree. I think the transplants only work for dudes who are thinning. For complete bald guys it looks like a wig.

            Funny about Lach. Our best player since Walter and/or the ’85 team and he is kind of a douche. Ah well. In a way I kinda like him for it. Makes him more human or something.

          • SC Dave

            Lach was a hof worthy football player. That’s good enough. There are not many Tim Duncans in the world, after all.

    • MB30SD

      Hoyer is a 5…. erra. Single. game.

      But I’m way emotionally tired of a 9 one game and a 2 the next.

      Like dating that super hot chick who’s a total fucking lunatic vs. the girl next door who’s a 6 but who’s also cool as shit and grew up with dogs and 3 brothers

      • CanadaBear

        The second one is what all the marrying kind of guys are looking for.

      • beninnorcal

        We’ll see about that, MB, I have a feeling Hoyer will put up a couple “2’s” before the season is done.

      • You know I’m all about the sixes, yo!

        • MB30SD

          I do

      • SC Dave

        Sorry, but I would have to say 300+ yards, 2TD, and NO TURNOVERS is better than a “5”.

        • MB30SD

          Dave!!! Are we agreeing on a player?!?!?! Nay, TWO players!!!!

          Mind…. blown.

    • BerwynBomber

      Cutty’s a better QB. He should start. The problem is, given Cutty’s mistakes, he’s only slightly better than Hoyer.

      Anyway, we’ll see how it works out. Hoyer has been playing well given his natural limitations. In fact, he is playing better statistically than predicted by his previous work. My sense too is he will eventually have a stinker. That is when the rubber will hit the road for the coaching staff.

      • MB30SD

        Agree on this too.

        The timing is just right to move on… perfect storm of circumstances

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Speaking of storms….did you read about Shep Douchebag on Fox news telling everyone in FLorida to leave or their kids would die? One weather guy even took off his glasses and cried due to all the carnage. One death in Forida was recorded. Turns out it was a woman who had a heart attack after hearing the news and died when nobody responded to her 911 call. Smh

          • MB30SD

            Smh. People are so dumb

            #florida

          • SC Dave

            Page hits, baby. You went there, perhaps?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Eye of the storm baby. Hee hee

      • SC Dave

        Problem is, despite all the ‘ obvious’ fsct that Jay is the “better Qb”, reality says he does not win more. He only costs more. A lot more.

        And not just salary. There were the first round picks, and Kyle Orton, we paid for his mediocre ass.

        • BerwynBomber

          I wouldn’t argue much with you there. Then again, I also wouldn’t MMQB the Cutler trade. He was still early enough in his career that one could believe he could become, if not elite, a consistent top-10 QB.

          Hasn’t/didn’t work out but Angelo took an understandable gamble as almost all signing and trades are. Biggest problem was PE not franchising Cutty but instead making him the highest paid player in the league (at the time). Yeah, the contract became less onerous on the backend but it was nevertheless half-insane given what we had seen of Cutty.

          Ah well. If this is it, his “era” will be debated for years. But I’m not sure it is over yet. Cutler tends to outlive his coaching staffs. We’ll see.

          • SC Dave

            I hope he doesn’t. Dead tired of the “promise” of Jay.

      • Johnnywad

        I think the real difference is Cutty’s best potential game is far and away better than Hoyer’s. Cutler, on a good day, can help you beat a playoff caliber defense. I don’t believe Hoyer can. At some point, the Bears will have to take risks to win real games. Hoyer doesn’t, because he doesn’t have the arm or the mentality.

        But how often is Cutler at his best anymore? Even last year, when he protected the football so well, he did so by taking on less risk, mitigating the upside of the cannon.

        I just don’t know anymore. I will say, if I have to win one game against a playoff caliber defense, Cutty gets the start and we hope for one of his better games.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Wow, BD, was that from memory? There a whole Lotta sleepless nights wrapped up in that list.

  • CanadaBear

    I hear ya. I’m nothing if not a realist

  • beninnorcal

    Jay is, statistically, an above-average NFL qb. The interesting part to me was always how he gets there. He ends up being an average to above average NFL qb by playing some ridiculousy-good games and sprinkling in some horribly-disaterous, turnover-filled ones. This always fascinated/stressed me out about him.
    I always wished he could be more consistent.
    I’ll be the first to admit that he is flawed, perhaps fatally, as far as NFL qb’s go.
    Loved the guy though.

    • Sactowns#1

      He also gets a lot of garbage time points and yards.

      • beninnorcal

        Most qb’s have a lot of garbage time points and yards during any given season.

    • BerwynBomber

      No, statistically he is average. Not above average. Average.

      • beninnorcal

        Fair enough.

        • BerwynBomber

          And for the record I meant average starter, which isn’t a horrible thing. Means he is one of the top 16 guys in the world at doing his job. Or roughly thereabouts.

          • beninnorcal

            I know exactly what you mean. ‘An average NFL starting qb’.
            Meaning he may be, roughly, the 16th best person in the world at the position.

          • beninnorcal

            I didn’t read your whole reply and said pretty much the same thing. Doh!!

          • SC Dave

            No

  • AlbertInTucson

    Meredith was fun to watch Sunday, for sure.

    We can hope it was a “Breakout” performance as opposed to just a random anomaly.

  • Joecashflow

    Loss had nothing to do with offense. Everything to do with Indy scoring on 5 of first 6 possessions.

    • MB30SD

      Woohoo it wasn’t hoyer the shitbombs fault then?!?!?

      Jesus Christ, make up your mind man!!

      • PaceBot 2000

        I think you’re confusing him with buddhajoe

        • MB30SD

          God damn it.

          Thanks yonny

  • BerwynBomber

    The Jizz is the starting RB for TB and playing well? Surprising …

  • Huge Bears Penis

    I miss Jock Jizz, why did we get rid of him. He is so underrated. no on here really appreciated him. the guy was a stud. he might be my all time favorite Bear.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      just look at that stat line so far. 13 carries 62 yards

      • SC Dave

        Almost 5 yards a carry!!

    • madscout12

      Best blog name ever. Jock jizz.

    • madscout12

      Also…low bar on performing for Tampa bay.

  • madscout12

    Oh, the shitbrick that is the NFC South

    • SC Dave

      Atlanta looks solid this year

      • madscout12

        Don’t believe yet.

        And fuck Gruden. Mute.

        • willbest

          They beat Denver in Denver and you don’t believe?

    • BerwynBomber

      But AFCS looks the worst so far.

    • SC Dave

      Whenever I watch the Panthers, I hate Martz for running the best TE since Mike Ditka out of Chicago.

      • madscout12

        This. And he’s not a fucking Ahole like uni.

        • SC Dave

          For a fucking 3rd round pick.

      • MB30SD

        He’s a wr dave.

        • SC Dave

          No, he’s not.

        • madscout12

          1000+ yards last two seasons. Who the fuck cares?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            He never produced like that with Cutler.

          • madscout12

            He didn’t with Cam until recent.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            They only become hall of famer’s after they leave chicago. That’s how it goes.

          • madscout12

            He caught for 500 the year after leaving. He caught for 600 in 09. Natural progression and they have had no WR

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Tampa has a bad secondary. They’re turrible.

          • madscout12

            Remember Chris Conte?

          • MB30SD

            I try to always forget.

            …dave has a poster

          • SC Dave

            Don’t say patently idiotic things without even bothering to look up easy sources…

            http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/O/OlseGr00.htm

          • madscout12

            I looked it up. His last two years have been 1000 yrd years. Before that, 800.

            Look at Marty’s years with the bears and go pound sand. There is no fucking reason he couldn’t have done the same with the bears.

          • SC Dave

            Bennett averaged 700 yards per season with the Bears. So, your point is?

          • SC Dave

            Last two words… read them again.

          • MB30SD

            Me

      • BerwynBomber

        Stop blaming Martz for that. Angelo was the GM. Not Martz. Martz also didn’t want Heine and had no control over that. Why? Because the GM makes trades. Not the OC.

        If you’re gonna eternally bellyache about Olsen at least blame the right guy.

  • SC Dave

    It would be okay to see the Cubs be worth a shit for the first time ever.

    • SC Dave

      Oh fuck me… Arietta with the three run HR

    • madscout12

      You can’t because they aren’t. This is know.

  • BerwynBomber

    About time Famous Jameis. The Jizz was carrying your O.

    • madscout12

      Can we call him “crab legs”?

  • Derek Anderson, also no Hoyer

  • madscout12

    This is ridiculous. Hold onto the fucking ball.

  • BerwynBomber

    C’mon, Winston. Anderson’s crapping the bed here. You’re in your third year now. Time to show you can win a game like this on the road.

  • madscout12

    2nd rounder.

  • BerwynBomber

    TB: another team that could be calling Robbie.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      naw they already have a crappy kicker

      • MB30SD

        Hee hee

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Exciting game huh? A real nail biter.

    • madscout12

      Who’s gonna fuck up last?

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Lol

        • madscout12

          Driving, ready for that 2nd round to miss one.

  • madscout12

    Lame.

  • madscout12

    Seriously, interviewing the kicker that sucks as much as barf?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Tonight, two teams that both played poorly enough to lose.

  • BerwynBomber

    The Jizz gets the Gruden Grinder Award. Nice.

    Man, does Winston look spotty. Not sure I wouldn’t give Glennon another look at some point.

  • BerwynBomber

    We’re tied with CAR in the WC standings.

    • willbest

      How the mighty have fallen.

    • AlbertInTucson

      rah.

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  • willbest

    I am going to laugh if the Cubs win this 3-2, with Arreta having pitched 6 innings and scoring all 3 runs himself.

    • willbest

      dammit relievers.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Playoff baseball can be damn exciting.

  • anybody remember svenghoulie on channel 32? berwyn? BERWYN?

    • AlbertInTucson

      The late Jerry G. Bishop. DJ b day, Svengoolie on Saturday nights.He did some FUNNY bits.

      • We are showing our age, brother. Used to have to hold the UHF loop antenna by hand to get a decent picure, lol.

        • AlbertInTucson

          We were STUNNED when it was pointed out to us that our black & white portable could receive UHF signals and there were actually stations on that band to watch.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Bullfights from Mexico City” on ch. 26.

  • Joecashflow

    Let’s talk about old shit again. Sun-Times bringing up Martellus Bennett trash talking Cutler earlier this year, again, . But here we are 1-4 and I for one, always was a supporter of Cutler, but times have changed. I have moved past that and want Hoyer the Destroyer as my starting QB, for next 2 years. We draft his successor next year and he helps groom the guy. I cannot blindly sit back and say Jay is the best option. He is not. Agree with Bennett 100%. Here we have Hoyer and the team. 1+1=3. Cutler? The anti-leader. 1+1=-1. He sucked the life out of this team. Winners win. Let’s move on. Trying to surround Cutler with supporters has cost us Bennett and Marshall. That’s more crap that shouldn’t have happened. Those two are all pro caliber. I believe we can win our share of games with Hoyer, as the Defense gets healthy. Bennett already has 2, 100 yd games and 4 TDs….with 2nd and 3rd string QBs. Regarding Hoyer, 500+ yards of offense is good enough for me. That wins games, with any semblance of a D. Did he miss an open Alshon for a TD? Yes, so did Cutler last year. Move on. Hoyer will make this team pull together. http://chicago.suntimes.com/sports/martellus-bennett-rips-bears-qb-jay-cutler-to-espn/

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