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Five Thoughts on Stuff That’s Been Going On

| June 10th, 2016

I haven’t written much of late for one reason: I have very little to say. I’m a firm believer in football having a definitive offseason and for me that offseason is from the Monday after the NFL Draft until the start of training camp. But here’s a few thoughts on what’s been going on.

(1) Manny Ramirez retired. So that’s a depth piece gone from the middle of the Bears offensive line. Explain to me again why Matt Slauson is not on this roster.

(2) I’m starting to believe the unit that could hold the Bears back from being a playoff contender is the offensive line. 40% of the unit is a complete question mark. (And someone who wasn’t madly in love with Cody Whitehair could argue 60%.)

(3) Andrew Dannehy was critical on Twitter of Brad Biggs apparently stating Adrian Amos has a make or break season coming up. Didn’t hear the spot but here’s what I’ll say about Amos: he’s being put in the best possible situation to success. Hicks/Goldman up front. Trevathan/Freeman in the middle. Amos won’t have to clean up much in the run game and when he does he’ll be able to do what he does best and that’s hit people hard. (He’s never going to be great in the pass game.)

(4) Everyone hopes Zach Miller stays healthy for the duration of 2016. But his track record ain’t too good. Bears have NOTHING at the position behind him unless one of these kids emerges.

(5) USA v Paraguay Saturday night. May be the single biggest match of the Klinsmann era because if this USMNT doesn’t find themselves in the knockout stage of Copa, Klinsmann may find himself looking for work. Even though a draw will most likely get them through they have to play aggressively, attack from the midfield and let the defenders defend. An early goal could be all they need to confident ride the wave out of the group stage.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    Slauson came out of Nebraska as a zone guy with a penchant for being caught out on stunts.

    Gase started to move to a power block scheme and it’s rational to think that Loggains wants more of that with Langford back there. Long’s strength is the power block scheme. Grasu’s is not, he comes from a zone block at Oregon which means he may be on the outs.

    Amos just got hi shoulder scraped so we’ll see how hard he’s hitting by September. If he can’t hit like he used to, he better have made improvements to speed and range.

    Miller is made of glass. Anticipate a lot of formations where he stands up in the wing /slot and using Lee and others for hand on the ground run blocking downs. He will probably also give it a rest at FB.

    • You’re about to get Jericho’d

      Agreed about Miller. With the TE depth as is Loggains and Fox would have to be battling early onset dementia to put him at H back or down too much as an inline blocker. You’re asking for a foot/leg injury if you get stupid.

  • That Guy

    I agree with Jeff that not much is going on right now that’s fodder for a blog post, so I appreciate the effort from him.

    I enjoy Premier league soccer on occasion and my family are all from Liverpool, so I have a clear rooting interest. I don’t care about American men’s soccer and neither do my soccer fanatic relatives that live here. The American MLS hasn’t gotten my attention yet. They need their Michael Jordan / Wayne Gretsky / Tiger Woods figure.

    On the chess front, I encourage my chess playing blog brethren to check out this and other articles about Victor Korchnoi’s passing. http://en.chessbase.com/post/viktor-korchnoi-dies-at-85 The man was a living legend and played at the highest competitive levels of chess for over 70 years. He lost matches for the world title three times, but holds wins over pretty much every chess player you’ve heard of since the second world war. He has, unquestionably, the greatest career in chess history in terms of longevity.

    On the football front, PFT is suggesting that Andrew Luck and other top QBs insist on contracts tied to a percentage of the salary cap. I actually think this is a great idea for teams and players, but will likely lead to more salary inflation rather than stability for teams. Right now, both sides gamble on cap growth when bargaining, so logically removing that question mark should help get long term deals done. But practically, you don’t see player’s cap numbers grow as fast as percentages of the cap as they do in dollars. Nothing to stop a team from lowering the percentage over time, but still, a deal giving the QB a guaranteed 15-20% of the cap would not be as team friendly as the deals on the market now.

    • Irish Sweetness

      NB is a Scouser !!! You’ll be watching the real football on this weekend, then. The Euros.

      Ireland found themselves in a group with Sweden, Italy and Belgium (#2 in the world!), so that’s us pooched.

      Korchnoi was a strange bloke. Defects, leaving his wife and son behind, putting chess before everything. Plays his chess balls to the wall, probably never winning a world championship because of it. Unforced errors, as they say in tennis. Chess literature is fascinating, it might be the only sport in the world where the players are more interesting than the game itself.

      • That Guy

        No footie for me. This weekend is Shavuot. But I’ll check some scores on the back end.

        Korchnoi’s defection was tough. Its striking that he left his family behind, but the Soviets used that as a weapon all the time. My guess is he did it with his wife’s blessing. But you are correct, the man lived for chess.

        • 1984

          The festival of forbidden fruits?

      • willbest

        That is because chess grand master brains are wired different than the rest of us causing them to do unusual things.

  • You’re about to get Jericho’d

    I’ve got to think that the Bears will bring on another vet lineman with some experience at Center. That was one of the main reasons I never envisioned them getting rid of Slauson.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Explain to me again why Matt Slauson is not on this roster.”

    I believe that falls under “Penny wise and pound foolish.”

    • SC Dave

      Ditto re Forte

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy Trails, Gordie Howe. 88 is a good run.

    • CanadaBear

      Hockey lost a great ambassador. I’ve read numerous stories from Gordie’s teammates talking about Gordie would sign autographs for every kid after the game. They all complained about taking forever for the bus to pull out because Gordie wouldn’t stop signing. Gotta love that!

    • BearDown100393

      Howe dies on the day of Ali’s funeral.

  • Bender McLugh

    #4 – UNREIN.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      #5. Robot Center.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Agree with Jefe that this OL will be a work in progress. But can we give Amos a chance to get better? Dude was a rook.

  • No ONE understood the Slauson cut, and if the regime had any insight as to Ramirez’ mindset, it was a doubly stupid move.

    I think Amos is solid.

    Keep in mind Rolle went down (Who was supposed to align the secondary) , and Amos had to play next to fucking Vereen. Playing behind the likes of the great Shea, Christian Jones, Unrein and dudes you had to look up in the program as a rookie probably isn’t a recipe for the PB.

    I don’t recall him making that obviously dumb breakdown, like taking bad angles or completely blowing coverage.

    Now Amos is going to have to take the next step and begin making plays and INTs.

    That shoulder concerns me a bit though.

    • CanadaBear

      I’ve got nothing against Amos but people were getting carried away about him. I’m sure it’s mostly because they hadn’t seen a decent safety in Navy Blue & Burnt Orange for so long. Good point about what was in front of him.

      it seems like if the blog is in agreement a move is stupid it usually is (Slauson). Between some trades/cuts being a little suspect to the team coming out flat numerous times last year, it keeps me from being 100% sold on POX. I’m at about 85% sold.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I am a little more hesitant with Amos. To me any of the young guys and no-namers that “stood out” on the D last year could very easily be a product of just being the shiniest turd.

      • CanadaBear

        Although I’m genuinely excited to see what Bryce Callahan looks like this year. He jumped off the screen the few games he played.

        • willbest

          Is that the Nickel Corner? We were noticeably better with him playing.

          • CanadaBear

            Yeah. He played like a veteran and didn’t embarrass himself. Not saying he’s the greatest or anything but he was the best Nickel Back for the Bears last year.

  • Irish Sweetness
  • Irish Sweetness

    Signed us a guard yo. Nate Chandler, Panther.

    • Sactowns#1

      Ginny finally letting go of the coin purse?

    • Wow. seeing some of those other interviews makes me feel good.
      Goldman and Bullard are just thick-necked broad shouldered behemoths.
      Man mountains of terror about to crush NFCN.

      • CanadaBear

        Don’t forget Hicks. He’s the biggest of the bunch. I read where they want Goldman at 325#’s and he’s lost some weight. Ego’s also around 300.

    • 1984

      Totally new team on the horizon. Onward and upward?

  • That Guy

    And Hulk Hogan drops a big leg on Gawker. How big? $115 Million judgment resulting in a Chapter 11 filing and offer of the company for sale.

    • Sactowns#1

      If it were a video of a famous woman it would have never been posted online in the first place. Their publishers are rather stupid.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      Can you make an animated GIF of Hulk breaking gawker in half over his knee?

    • You’re about to get Jericho’d
      • Swing Tackle of Destiny
        • That Guy

          Whatcha gonna do brother! When Hulk Hogan’s legal team, financed by a rival media mogul, runs roughshod on you!

          • That Guy

            Hulkamaniacs everywhere just applied to law school.

      • That Guy

        Chris Jericho’s wikipedia page currently lists his picture as “at the Gordon Ramsay Lookalikes Convention”

  • AlbertInTucson

    “I’m a firm believer in football having a definitive offseason” and the NFL is a firm believer in preventing that.

    • Sactowns#1

      Ha. Seriously. I wish the XFL would have been able to last.

      • AlbertInTucson

        “He Hate Me.”

        • MB30SD

          Boom!

          HeHateMe

      • Nellfhoff2

        “my room mate Lori Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr”…..!tl681u

        two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month’s payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it’s realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here !tl681x:➽:➽:.➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsKeyGetPay$98Hour…. .★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★::::::!tl681x….,….

    • willbest

      How many games would cause a critical devaluation of the product? For example if the season were 30 games, and the rosters increased to 70 to accommodate injuries. Would each game still be “must watch”

      • AlbertInTucson

        No, thank you. I don’t even want them to go to an 18 game schedule.

      • EvanHOFriguez

        This is football we’re talking about no? I’LL TAKE A GAME EVERY FUCKING WEEK FOR THE REST OF MY LIFE thank you very much.

        But really, what would be so bad about a developmental league, we could have like the Champaign Grizzlies to root for in the summer.

  • MB30SD

    Espn says we got the deal of FA I’m freeman. Boom!

    A real fucking lb

  • MB30SD

    Anya ya mood try swift & sons?

  • SC Dave

    Oline woes…. not a good story

    • Dunno about woe.
      But def baffling.

      This regime is placing a LOT of faith in Leno (no Tunsil), Massie, Whitehair (Slauson) and a Romanian IceSkater.

    • 1984

      I cannot go there. Just can’t.

      • MB30SD

        The year I became a bears fan.

        • 1984

          The year I said, “who are these guys?”. That’s what I’m talking bout!

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    MB –

    Weber carb V12 in the finest car ever made. It’s so glorious, it moves the bar for the definition of the word.

    https://youtu.be/ewQaikxTUJs?t=251

    • MB30SD

      Thanks GP. Stunning car. Just the sound is mesmerizing.

      Love the way that windshield wiper was holding on for dear life. Haha

      My dad is 78 next august (you’d guess he was 68 if you met him) … Think I’m going to take him to Le Concourso for his bday… wanna meet us out there?

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        pebble beach?

        • MB30SD

          Jeees

  • Nellfhoff2

    “my room mate Lori Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr”…..!tl681u

    two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month’s payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it’s realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here !tl681x:➽:➽:.➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsKeyGetPay$98Hour…. .★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★::::::!tl681x….,…

  • CanadaBear
  • CanadaBear
    • You’re about to get Jericho’d

      grain of salt. I saw a bunch of runs where he got a yard or less after contact….after flying almost parallel to the ground under a pile of defenders to get a key first down. Langford and Carey got first downs last year on types of runs that i hadn’t seen since Thomas Jones.

      • MB30SD

        Jeeees my maingses, jeeeeees

        • You’re about to get Jericho’d

          Urine should be in the game any time it’s short yardage. Just to freeze up those linebackers. Then you can Royal the shit out of them with quick outs.

          • CanadaBear

            Until some team stops the Beloved from banging it in with Unrein as the FB, why get cute? Keep on banging!

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            Always keep banging

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        I prefer a back who doesn’t GET touched as the lead back. YAC is overrated, there should be a short yardage back in there and that will probably be Jordan Howard

        • MB30SD

          Urine

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            Urine baby.

      • CanadaBear

        And just like Thomas Jones there were a few of those dancing with the stars, juking around going nowhere runs too. Carey ran hard last year but he’s pretty limited due to lack of speed. Langford looked great sometimes and was meh sometimes. Not to mention how many passes did he drop last year? A LOT. No doubt he will get better in that regard but it’s still worrisome.

    • 1984

      I’m sure glad the book on me didn’t end after the first chapter of my career. I don’t put much stock in that piece. Heck, Shady McCoy was the messiah according to Iggles fans 3 years ago.

      • CanadaBear

        Fair enough but I’m just not as sold on Langford as a lot of people.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          I am not too worried. most backs will tell you they need to get in a groove when running. last year most of the games he had under 15 carries. Hard to get in that groove, especially as a rookie, still learning the speed of the game. He passed the eye test for me, still has work to do but promising.

          • MB30SD

            This

        • 1984

          Hahaha

    • MB30SD

      I am officially on record as being a Langford fan and band wagoneer.

      He’s going to bust out this year. Maybe not sweetness style, but he’ll be good. And his job descrip last year didn’t lend itself to having a big year anyway.

      Hey, can someone remind me what his and forte’s TD totals were from last year btw? (Not aimed at you btw Canada)

      • 1984

        That’s what I would love to see.(The 1st part)

        • MB30SD

          Forte 4
          Langford 6

          You’re welcome

          • CanadaBear

            3.6 I repeat 3.6. Do you really think Forte would not have scored on 3 or 4 of Langford’s TD’s following Unrein? There were Mack Truck sized holes behind Unrein. Anyway, we’ll find out soon enough and I really hope you’re correct.

          • MB30SD

            3.6 to 4.1

            I think we won’t see a huge drop off in our running back play next year. I also think Langfords avg goes up to or surpasses forte’s from last year.

            Just my thoughts

          • CanadaBear

            I hope so. With all the WR’s down last year the running game took a beating. Now with the OL being in flux, who knows how this will play out? If Miller goes down early at TE the position basically becomes another OLman. That ain’t good. Still predicting 8-8.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t know man, oline was also way in Flux last year and we ended up 5th in the league right?

            I’m not worried about it yet. Now TE… that’s another story

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            we don’t need no stinking TE!!!

          • MB30SD

            Guess not

          • Johnnywad

            Half a yard is a big deal. But I’m a believer. I think Langford is going to be pretty good. Ain’t gonna matter with that front seven on D and the WR tandem about to be unleashed.

    • SC Dave

      Looks about right.

  • MB30SD

    Irish… how in thee fuck dis you fucks beat us?! SA sports are so frustratingly inconsistent. (Sounds familiar). Smfh

  • You’re about to get Jericho’d

    haha, boys, today is the day. Wife is at a wedding with one kid. Waffle will be picked up at 5pm to go to the reception. Waffle has 5hrs to sit in pool in backyard and drink these all fucking day as my other kids are at a family members house :
    http://rumdood.com/2010/04/14/queens-park-swizzle/

    • Irish Sweetness

      That nearly makes me want to have a drink.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        If you ever have a drink it will be with all of us and it will be ONE glorious drink.

        • CanadaBear

          One’s too many and 100 ain’t enough!

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            if one’s too many, have you just tried drinking 1/2 a drink?? 12 half drinks might be just enough. I kid, lol

          • CanadaBear

            I like the way you think!

      • CanadaBear

        Stay strong my friend! The only alcohol that I miss is wine. If I was ever gonna cross the line it would be with some good champagne. Of course, that would mean it would be premeditated, which in reality would probably not be the case. 22 years and counting!

        • 1984

          I cook with red wine occasionally and recently I took a sip and was very surprised that I felt a buzz from such a small amount. It just goes to show you how there’s no tolerance built up in the body when you don’t drink at all. I can confidently say I would not enjoy getting drunk based on how one tiny sip made me feel.

          • CanadaBear

            My Beloved Bride uses wine in her cooking but all the alcohol gets cooked out. I used to drink diet coke in bars and every now and then I would get a rum and coke (unbeknownst to me). I would explain to the waitress and she’d get me an unleaded drink. Just from one sip I could feel the effects. I stopped drinking pop a few years ago so no mix ups these days.

    • Bender McLugh

      Have you FUCKING tried Toppers or what

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        what is Toppers?

        • Bender McLugh

          Ruhm from St. Maarten, it’s the islands only export and kinda awesome

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            Im on it! I’ll report back in short order.

  • MB30SD

    Seriously England?! Wtf???

    • willbest

      Brexit?

  • 1984

    @dabearsblog

    “Why golf is a horrible, horrible drug. Broke 80 for first time today and all I can think about is how many shots I left on the course.”

    Aah grasshopper….you seek that which cannot be found…..

    • MB30SD

      Smh

      Wtf are you doing your hobby for when there’s so much footy on man?!?!?!

      • 1984

        Jess. Shakespeare would be very disjointed with Jeff.

  • Kelsiejhouse3

    “my room mate Lori Is getting paid on the internet $98/hr”…..!tv92x

    two days ago grey McLaren. P1 I bought after earning 18,512 Dollars..it was my previous month’s payout..just a little over.17k Dollars Last month..3-5 hours job a day…with weekly payouts..it’s realy the simplest. job I have ever Do.. I Joined This 7 months. ago. and now making over hourly. 87 Dollars…Learn. More right Here !tv92x:➽:➽:.➽.➽.➽.➽ http://GlobalSuperJobsReportsEmploymentsTripGetPay$98Hour…. .★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★★::::::!tv92x….,…

  • MB30SD

    Watched part 1 of the OJ 30 for 30 tonight.

    Interesting.

    • Swing Tackle of Destiny

      is it on itunes yet?

      • Swing Tackle of Destiny

        it is now. $4. i got it anyway, it’s pretty damn good – a ton of footage from the period.

        OJ perfected that cutback on the sweep. It’s interesting to see how closely guys like Eric Dickerson and Marcus Allen ran like him.

        Just imagine #32 instead of #29 on this footage, and tell me that doesn’t look just like OJ.

  • George Hotchkiss

    A couple of thoughts: Just not feelin’ it for the Bears right now, too many question marks. I believe they are moving out of the embarrassing category, and moving into the maybe actually winning two games at home this year category. On defense, I don’t see the defensive line as better than average and the secondary could be another disaster. On offense, aside from Long I have no feeling of confidence from any other O-lineman. Maybe, with the right scheme and good coaching they could gel, but again too many question marks. I see a competitive team in two to three years, only if they get a repl.caement for Cutler, he will be too old by then, especially with the diabetes…

    • MB30SD

      Jesus… eeyor 2.0

      • George Hotchkiss

        Thanks for the comment MB, one of the beautiful things about the NFL is we can wag our tongues about what will or won’t work and it doesn’t mean anything until gameday,when actual humans do battle for our benefit. Every year, every team has it’s ardent long time fans looking at their team and usually giving them the benefit of the doubt. Trestman should have cured us of that. I see comments assuming things about the team that have never been proven, and then using those assumptions to predict a playoff run. What I am looking for is a team that establishes itself as a true defensive force, that makes teams spend a lot of time figuring out how to score against us, these last few years opposing teams probably spent about five miutes game planning against our leaky defense. Our offense had no receivers last year, our opponents didn’t have to do much to beat us. The NFL “experts” are way too conservative about the team. I think we are going to be much more competitive this year. But, I’m looking for Fox and company to start establishing things that will begin tilting the field in our favor. I’m patient enough to wait, if the leadership is really on to something. right now, I am skeptical, but hoping Pace has a real plan that Fox can utilize to bring us back to the top where we belong.

  • Swing Tackle of Destiny

    It’s as if current events play right to Trump.

    As somebody who takes my kids to Orlando alot, I feel for all the people down there who have had two crazy shooters in one weekend.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/06/12/omar-mateen-id-d-as-orlando-killer.html

    • 1984

      “Those who control the present, control the past and those who control the past control the future.”

      George Orwell, 1984

      All bullshit and social differences aside GP, please hear me on this, it’s all been planned out in advance. Don’t take my word for it, study History for yourself.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        What has been planned out exactly?

        • 1984

          The social upheaval by these kind of events are used to take away civil rights. The Patriot act was introduced and passed a little over a month after 911. It’s a known fact it was written before 911 and until 911 happened, it was going to be voted down by Congress on Constitutional grounds.

          • You’re about to get Jericho’d

            You made it sound like this was planned on purpose to then use the fallout for legislative agenda pushing. Turns out youre just saying that laws may be tweaked to deal with evolving circumstances.

            Much less crazy.

          • 1984

            Jess, but I try to not accept the official storylines on these kind of things until I vet the facts.

  • willbest

    “make it more difficult”… did Jeff just endorse Donald Trump?

    • 1984

      Total ignorant statement by Jeff. You certainly can defeat ideology. It’s called communism. Who were Lenin, Trotsky and Stalin? for 1 million please Alex.

      As Rahm Emanuel famously said: “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste. And what I mean by that is an opportunity to do things you think you could not do before.”

      Let the games begin.

      50 people just got murdered and while everyone is looking for someone to blame, Congress is probably getting ready to introduce more freedom killing legislation that they drafted last week.

      • willbest

        Don’t really know what Muslim killing homosexuals allows them to push as an agenda though. Media machine doesn’t really have a narrative up and running yet. Jeff is barking up the wrong tree on gun control. No way in hell radicalized son of Afghan immigrants (refugees?) is going to convince anybody on the gun rights side of the debate of anything. You need another white boy shooting up a black church for that.

        This is one of those things that makes Trump look like a political genius. So if this is, as you believe, Illuminati their plans involve Trump at the helm.

        • 1984

          I didn’t understand what was going on until I started studying real History. Not the propaganda bullshit on the History channel.

          • Scharfinator

            Any reading you would recommend? I’m always looking to grow.

          • 1984

            Jess. The treaty of 1213, Treaty of 1783, The Treaty of Verona, Nasa Mooned the World, The Belfour Declaration…..I could go on and on and on. Read the actual documents themselves.

  • BearDown100393

    Twitter killed the brain cell.

  • 1984

    Supposedly this shooter was an employee of GS4 USA security. This is no run of the mill security company. I smell a rat.

    http://whoprofits.org/company/group4securicor-g4s

    • willbest

      Least we know how he managed to take out 50 people where those guys only got 140ish in Paris and the two in SB got less than 20.

      Can’t believe they really are trying to push gun control when this guy has had more government vetting than 99% of the US population.

      • You’re about to get Jericho’d

        Authorities already admitted hed been “on their radar” for years. Its our fault for not acting sooner. We knew it was just a matter of time. During Ramadan as well….probabaly just a coincidence. Maybe he just hated gays alot. His dad mentioned his least favorite show was Queer Eye for thd straight guy.

        • willbest

          I haven’t seen data so take with a grain of salt, but I read ISIS likes to step it up during Ramadan.

          The nature of this country though is fundamentally unprepared to handle this sort of threat. See we frown on treating people who haven’t been convicted differently. So the choices for preventing this sort of thing are:

          1) strip everybody of their rights because one or more diverse cultures can’t handle it so nobody can have it

          2) discriminate on who you let in to dramatically limit such toxic cultures (Japan practices this)

          3) Tiered citizenship.

          The US is working its damnedest on a combo of #1 and #3 which is the quickest way to tyranny that I can think of.

        • 1984

          I don’t buy the Dads interview just yet. What kind of a father gives an interview like that 5 hours after the incident? It’s very surreal.

  • 3 things from watching Fox cover Orlando massacre.

    1. They kept hammering away that this should be labeled a “Radical Muslim Terrorist” attack.

    I wouldn’t protest especially in this case when the killer was obviously inspired by radical Islam.

    2. On that note, I don’t know why either Hillary or Obama don’t use the term. It’s not an Islamic attack but radical islamic attack. I think Muslims would agree.

    3. If we do go down that road, then we gotta label Christians trying to bomb abortion clinics as “radical Christianity”.

    But then where does it end? What was Timothy McVeigh? or the Uni Bomber?

    How should Am citizens who were raised in a self-proclaimed Judeo-Christian society then go on similar rampages be labeled?

    Some other disturbing notes from watching more Fox. A few of their “guest experts” called for MORE power to federal investigations. One even said, ‘All our emails and electronic msgs should be monitored. It wouldn’t bother me or many law abiding citizens.’

    Uh, speak for yourself bub. 1st amendments rights seem to get thrown out the door for conservatives after every attack.

    But it does bring up a dilemma. If a guy at work is praising ISIS and the such, and he’s reported, nothing can really be done. He can’t be imprisoned for essentially a ‘thought crime’ and can go and load up on guns.

    If we go down that road, then what if u say something like “I wish Obama was dead” or along those lines?

    Dunno. It’s a tough dilemma to tread – freedom-v-security.

    I would love to say I would trust the FBI, NSA, etc with our info, but I don’t.

    • willbest

      It should be called an ISIS attack on the US, since he supposedly pledged allegiance to them (giving up his US citizenship incidentally) and they claimed it. That would be a political problem for the prez and former SoS, so its definitely never going to get called that.

      In fact this non call by the prez is pretty smart, because the dipshits at Fox are trying to link this to Islam the religion, as opposed to Islam the political movement which is what ISIS is.

      And the neocons want a police state just as much as the progs, they just plan on oppressing different people. At least at first. They both want Venezuela as their end game

    • 1984

      So far only the names of 4 victims have been released. Does anybody have the full list of names yet?

      • I thought about it, and this particular attack might be different.

        I’m gonna go out on a limb and say that many of those at the club might not have come out of the closet, so maybe they don’t want all their family, friends and coworkers finding out this way.

        Not sure, but that might be a reason they haven’t released a lot of names yet.

        • 1984

          I don’t buy that. Check this video out. Very weird interview this women gives.

          https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=WcYgdx2EK_o

          • Plz don’t tell me you think this whole massacre is some sorta CIA set-up like 9/11 or the moon landing.

            In this day and age, it’s only a matter of time before all the info comes out.

            I wouldn’t even be surprised if more than 1 victim filmed it on their cell.

          • willbest

            Don’t think he is saying it didn’t happen, though I do know a Sandy Hook denier BC she feels no mom would act like the interviews she saw. I think he is saying the shooter was the FedGovs deep cover agent in order to soften up and distract the population from some freedom grab.

          • 1984

            That’s not what I’m saying either. I’m saying I don’t trust a news media that does the bidding of the govt. Congress passed a bill in 2013 authorizing government propaganda through the news media.

            http://foreignpolicy.com/2013/07/14/u-s-repeals-propaganda-ban-spreads-government-made-news-to-americans/

          • 1984

            I would be surprised if nobody filmed some of what happened but who pulls out their phone while they’re running for their lives? I absolutely believe we are being psyop-ed in some form of fashion but to what extent? Who knows?

          • Scharfinator

            Yo, there are way better actors available than her if this is supposed to be a psy op.

            Maybe that is the point though!

  • On a football note, if Davis does get out of the 9ers hell hole, def worth getting.

    “Retired” 49ers RT Anthony Davis tweeted late Saturday that “I will play ball.”

    He has since deleted the tweet. According to CSN Bay Area’s Matt Maiocco, “those around the 49ers” believe Davis “would have filed for reinstatement off the reserve/retired list long ago” if he were “serious about attempting an NFL comeback this season.” If Davis does decide to move forward with coming back, the 49ers will control his rights at a $2.65 million base salary in 2016. – Roto

  • MB30SD

    If they’re on your watch list, start up the waterboarding. Fuck it. One pro isis post gets you a trip to the cia waterpark.

    Trumps new platform or tracs new platform?

    Might I support both/either?? Fuck I don’t know, but something’s gotta be done

    • 1984

      Should waterboarding be mandatory for all politicians? Now that would be a platform I could stand on. lol

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow. Chuggin’ on my morning coffee to see what happened in Orlando … done with legally obtained weapons.

    Have the NRA come out and defended his right to bear arms yet?

    May the souls of the dearly departed rest in peace.

    • willbest

      Guy was private security, assuming the Irish authorities were just as competent as the great state of Florida and the FBI who both vetted him, he would have been licensed to carry.

      Anyway I don’t see why I should change the way my family and I have been living our lives for generations because the nimrods in charge decided to let in people that practice and advocate for an ideology that likes to throw homosexuals off buildings for sport. I don’t really think that cultural diversity makes us better in any sense of the word. So lets just get rid of this new thing that is causing problems rather than changing two centuries of culture to accommodate it. And perhaps we might even save some infidels lives in the process

    • EvanHOFriguez

      All you have to do is wait to buy a gun. If you are that crazy to plan for it, there is no stopping it, however you go about it. Probably make it a point to use legal guns whenever possible, get american laws changed, and then it’ll only be easier to carry out these attacks.

  • MB30SD

    If you haven’t seen Syriana check it out… frightening.

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