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Bears Select Jonathan Bullard, DL, Florida

| April 30th, 2016

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In the third round the Bears picked one of the most athletic defensive linemen in the draft in Bullard.

According to Mock Draftable, Bullard’s most comparable current NFL player is Sheldon Richardson. He fits the physical profiles they look for at 6’3″, 285 pounds, running the 40-yard dash in under five seconds and a 10-yard split of 1.65 seconds, among the best at his position in the draft.  Oh, and his arms are nearly 34 inches long.

Bullard has the size and strength to take on blockers and the speed and quickness to get after the quarterback. He might be the perfect compliment to Akeem Hicks and Eddie Goldman. He’s the smaller defensive lineman like Fox had in Derek Wolfe, Fangio had in Ray McDonald and Pace had in Cameron Jordan.

Bullard dropped because he lacks ideal height, but he has the measurable to make up for it. He likely would’ve gone much higher in a weaker draft. He was given a second round grade by Greg Gabriel on Pro Football Weekly. Here’s what he wrote:

Strong Points

Has good size with the frame to get bigger. Has long arms. He is a good athlete with quick change of direction. Runs well and has excellent balance. Is strong and powerful. Has real good initial quickness and stays low. Shows strength at the point, can use his hands to shed blocks and make plays. Reacts quickly and finds the ball. Top competitor, plays an aggressive game. Good pursuit player. Good pass rusher with both power and moves. Can play multiple positions.

Weak Points

Lacks ideal height. Like most college linemen, he needs to improve his overall hand use. Needs to get a little bigger.

The Way We See It

Bullard is a good college player who projects to be a good player at the next level. Plays both inside and outside and can play in a 3-4 or 4-3 in the NFL. He is a quick-reacting player who finds the ball and is consistent versus both the run and the pass. Is a top competitor and plays with a high level of intensity. He should come in and start for a team as a rookie and be productive. He lacks ideal height for a 5-technique but he has long arms and has sound technique. Will line up inside in pass rush situations.

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  • Doc Nitty

    I like it. Solid name for a DL.

  • willbest

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  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    As much poo as the regs are feeling, both Whitehair and Bullard were graded as 2nd rounders.

    Like it or not, POX valued Bullard as much as guys like Noah Spence, Ashawn, Reed and a few others.

    • willbest

      Well we don’t know about Spence or Jones. They tried trading up but couldn’t.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        I think they had Jones and Dodd in one tier, maybe Noah Spence

        And like the following 10 Dlinemen in a lower tier.

    • Big Mike

      This. I like the players we picked up. Floyd, Whitehair and Bullard. I only question why an OG?

  • jab

    Bullard will be solid. I’m starting to think the bears will trade up into the late third round to grab someone.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    I like the pick.

    However I still feel that everything Pace has done tonight and during FA is more prepping for the future.

    If the Bears get the lightning in the bottle and go far, then I am of couse all for it.

    However, getting this team stocked up in picks and money is a sure sign that we are trying to get a QB that the team will want to be a STUD and potential starter (either when Cutlers contract is up or the year before). I really don’t see Cutler being a person being a “mentor” to an up and coming QB. It’s going to have to be a STUD.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Another point is how loaded and young the oline is for the direction Pace is taking

    • Irish Sweetness

      If we play well, we’re not going to get near a stud though.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Such a catch 22, eh?

  • jab

    Hope they trade up for Connor Cook.

    • AlbertInTucson

      The guy started for what? 3 years? Never voted a team captain. What’s up with that?

      • jab

        Team captain is an over rated title. Some people don’t want that title and can still be a leader.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        I have never once thought about a player being team captain or not for how much I follow college football.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      He doesn’t seem to handle the big stage very well

      • jab

        His record, touchdown to pick ratio is pretty damn good. His completion percentage can definitely improve, but I think he can be the real deal. That’s just my opinion though.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          He does carry himself confidently and I think he’d translate well to the NFL. But he has a tendency to to make really bad mistakes when the heat is on him

          • jab

            Just like most young QB’s, even Cutler. I’m not saying he should come in and be a starter right away, but he’s way more talented than Fales and could be the QB of the future in a couple years.

          • Irish Sweetness

            How does anyone know about Fales? He’s been flashed in a couple of PS games. He could be Joe Montana and we don’t know.

          • BearDown100393

            If Fales is Joe Montana, the Bears are the dumbest organization in professional sports. And they aren’t.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Let’s see how today finishes out for that verdict

    • Scharfinator

      Seems like a reach

      • jab

        Cook is going to be good. Way better than hackenberg and brisett.

        • Sactowns#1

          Jeebus, how far down into the weeds are you guys willing to go?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Check out the other threads!

          • jab

            It’s going to be the 4th round, is that really going down in the weeds when the guy could have gone in the second round?

        • AlbertInTucson

          I’d rather take a run at Kevin Hogan of Stanford.

          • jab

            I like Hogan as well, but I never thought Cook would fall into the 4th. Cook is a much better prospect than Hogan.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          At this point, fuck it, cook has talent… Obvious visible talent at his position. I would’ve been ok with it.

  • Sactowns#1

    So I had to drive out to Pleasant Hill for my job today (Pleasemt Hill actually is quite pleasant) and I got stuck in fucking Bay Area traffic. The only positive was I was able to listen to the draft, albeit through the worlds most static riddle a.m. station. I was pleasantly surprised when I heard that we traded down twice to pick up three additional picks and then got mountains of man meat on top of that. Lineman! FUCKING LINEMEN!!!!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Glad to hear that! Good thing you were happy, otherwise your traffic jam times would make you road rage or something. Maybe it was the a.m. static subliminally telling you stay sweet and happy so that you could make it home in one piece

  • burntorangenavyblue

    It’s Chicago South…..both always headscratchers

  • burntorangenavyblue

    How the heck are spam post popping up? Is this a sign of the draft? Da fuq?

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I’m sure Pace will just dominate the third day of the draft. It’s been such a joy ride so far.
    Like goddamn Angelo redux.
    Great free agency, absolute batshit draft.

    • jab

      I hope Pace dominates tomorrow. He traded back a lot and passed on some good talent to do so. I’m not a pessimistic bears fan, but I can’t figure out what he’s doing.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s kind of too late now, don’t you think? Pro Bowls aren’t populated by low round picks. They’re just not.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Today was a young GM getting schooled. Jack and Jaylon going early gave him false confidence but he dropped just a little too far back. Then the shit show started. We ended up with a Guard with “functional strength” (code for GP benches more than him) and a smaller version of Ego Ferguson.

      • Big Mike

        Whitehair is better than that. Guy was the top OG in the draft. Problem is we didn’t need him. You’ll like Bullard

        • willbest

          I would love Whitehair if Slausen only had 1 year left on his contract. It just seems like a luxury pick.

          Bullard says he would prefer to play 3-technique. Now obviously he would prefer to get paid, but its clear that his initial vision for himself is different from the way the Bears see him. And that will take some adjustment.

          • Big Mike

            That’s the puzzler about Whitehair. Two thoughts. Grasu will sit and Slauson will play center or they are moving Long to LT

          • Irish Sweetness

            They told Long he was going to RG, Mike. I don’t think they’d lie to him. Grasu will have to sit and learn, bulk up. Then again, is Whitehair so good, he can just come in to the NFL and knock heads?

          • Big Mike

            I’m grabbing at air here. I posted this before the rumors of cutting slauson came up. Trying to figure out how you play 5 guards. 1 all pro, 1 near all pro, two quality starters and a top draft pick.

          • Big Mike

            Bullard is an excellent 3rd round pick. He was a good pick in the 2nd round.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He’s playing OT here – what’s the deal?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgJcym267GI

          • Big Mike

            His college used him at all five spots. He was so much better than everyone else they had. LT went down, he stepped in. Played all 5 line spots in college.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        That cute little trade back from 41 to 49 saw a massive run of talent just go flying by. Trade up for a marginal talent in the first round, trade down in the second while first round talent gets scooped up over and over again. And then he doubles down on the idiocy because it can’t get any worse. Only it does. And at that point, best guy left on the board is a guard where we’ve got homegrown and FA talent in spades.
        You put it right, tonight was a shitshow. It was the smartest guy in the room syndrome that we dealt with from Angelo and then twice as bad with Emery. I am only gladdened by the fact that free agency was a success, because tonight had the smell of abject disaster and panic.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Free agency was definitely a success. Floyd being sought after by Fangio gives me a little peace but a crucial part of the rebuild stalled out when you can’t pull the trigger correctly on your 3-4 DE, the best OT remaining, the S or even the Corner you want.
          meanwhile your direct division rivals pick the same types of players and in some cases the exact fucking player.
          there were core players available but they ended up being selected by teams way more familiar with post season success than us.

    • Big Mike

      It hurts me to read your bummed outness

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        It bums me out to see a talented GM shit the bed like that.

        • Big Mike

          I woke up today and tried to evaluate what happened, based on popular opinion and what some of the more focused and informed Bears fans have said. I inky see two possibilities. He crapped the bed, or he simply had a plan and a draft board very different than we expected.

          Case by case each of the picks has strong merit. Floyd was the consensus 2nd best edge rusher available. Whitehair was the best OG in the draft, he can also play all 5 spots. Bullard was the best 3-4 DE available and in most years is an early 2nd round pick.

          Each pic also comes with more questions than I had hoped for. Tunsil is sitting right there. Best player in the draft by some measures. That’s the only problem I have with Floyd. Is we could have had Tunsil. I like very that he used some of his hard earned flexibility to take floynawaynfrm the Giants. The 2nd round, well that just seems to say lets make moves for the sake of moves. Giving every benefit of the doubt, maybe he just didn’t like any of the players available. Like counting cards in blackjack he had an idea of how far back he could and get a quality second rounder. I think this is where he may have made a mistake. But in fairness he recovered nicely and got an exception ball player. The 3rd pick was a win. It only feels bad because we should have taken a top DE in the 2nd and if they wanted an OG take that guy in the third.

          Three fourth rounders will feel good today.

          Here is the good news. Now it’s all about what these new Bears are all about. Could be they are the bedrock for a decade. Could be the the draft where Fox got behind the eight ball and has to play catch up in subsequent offseasons, end of his tenure becomes inevitable.

          • Captain Obvious

            I am in total agreement with you.

            It’s like building 3 of a kind in poker. It’s a strong enough hand to win. But if you think your opponent has a full house or even a flush, you look at your 3 of a kind and think there’s something wrong.

          • Big Mike

            We’ll just have to see what else plays out. Rumor is he’s freeing cap space to go after Wilkerson. That would mean he’s a genius and we don’t know squat.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Mike, I was with you yesterday. Now I’m in a diffeernt boat with a quiver of flaming arrows, flagons of wildfire and a massive trebuchet aimed directly at POX’s boat. I would advise you to dive into the water and I will provide you with safe passage.

        • Big Mike

          Here is my take
          I woke up today and tried to evaluate what happened, based on popular opinion and what some of the more focused and informed Bears fans have said. I only see two possibilities. He crapped the bed, or he simply had a plan and a draft board very different than we expected.
          Case by case each of the picks has strong merit. Floyd was the consensus 2nd best edge rusher available. Whitehair was the best OG in the draft, he can also play all 5 spots. Bullard was the best 3-4 DE available and in most years is an early 2nd round pick.
          Each pic also comes with more questions than I had hoped for. Tunsil is sitting right there. Best player in the draft by some measures. That’s the only problem I have with Floyd. Is we could have had Tunsil. I like very that he used some of his hard earned flexibility to take floynawaynfrm the Giants. The 2nd round, well that just seems to say lets make moves for the sake of moves. Giving every benefit of the doubt, maybe he just didn’t like any of the players available. Like counting cards in blackjack he had an idea of how far back he could and get a quality second rounder. I think this is where he may have made a mistake. But in fairness he recovered nicely and got an exception ball player. The 3rd pick was a win. It only feels bad because we should have taken a top DE in the 2nd and if they wanted an OG take that guy in the third.
          Three fourth rounders will feel good today.
          Here is the good news. Now it’s all about what these new Bears are all about. Could be they are the bedrock for a decade. Could be the the draft where Fox got behind the eight ball and has to play catch up in subsequent offseasons, end of his tenure becomes inevitable.

  • willbest

    Fox is bringing back 24 without Jack Bauer… which is awful of them since they ended the victory lap so horribly.

  • willbest

    Wait a second… I didn’t realize the Bucs actually traded up to get the kicker… That is mind blowing.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Pace probably had him on the board so bucs beat him to it

    • Irish Sweetness

      At least they got the best player at his position one time.

  • willbest

    So far I am underwhelmed by this draft. I guess tomorrow we will go searching the haystack for a couple DBs, TE, tackle, maybe a slot wr/returner, and another body for the d-line.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Ugh, we didn’t need bodies. We specialize in bodies. We needed difference makers and pace urinated all over that plan.

  • MB30SD

    What a bummer

  • Irish Sweetness

    I woke up just after midday, made a coffee and warmed up a pineapple pie. Logged on to see what we got for Christmas. It was a horrible knitted jumper, and a game for a console I don’t own. I am hurt, bewildered, astounded, mystified.

    So yesterday I was shaking my head at all the blowback on the pick. I put it down to alcohol. Everyone will wake up tomorrow and realize that Pace knows what he’s doing. He’s the Man. RELAX! He’ll knock it out of the park tomorrow ….

    And then with Jihad Ward, Derrick fucking Henry, A’Shawn, Mackensie Alexander, Ragland, Reed, Su’A Cravens and Correa on the board … he trades down 8 spots to make sure we get NONE of them. Just to make SURE, he does it AGAIN. It was about half an hour before I bothered checking who we got in the third (another fucking tackle that can’t play end to add to the 6 or 7 we have already)… so stunned was I. So I read down through all of your comments on the last thread. Noticed Jeff had re-posted his puff piece thinking he’s nailed the pick (Pace has royally fucked this up, Jeff).

    I really don’t know what to day or do at this point. Guards we have. Defensive tackles we have (three good ones in Hicks, Goldman and Williams) … but Jesus Christ on a bike, did Pace ever pooch the puppy on this one. Derrick Henry transforms your offense. He would have given us what we just don’t have on offense, including the ability to split out wide, or just stand back there like an offensive tackle on play-action. We don’t have a single play-making defensive end on the roster. Not one.

    Then it hits me. He was too good to be true. Pace is just a dude.

    When he got the job as Bears GM I kinda felt bad. I felt like a failure. There was this guy who was way too young to be a GM of a billion dollar organization, or so it looked. I felt envious a guy that young and fresh-faced was making the moves for my Beloved, and being a millionaire into the bargain for it. I was jealous. I wished I was zippy and smart. The spectre of telling my father I didn’t want to move to Chicago when I was 13 rose its ugly head again. I thought, damn, maybe if I’d grown up in America, that could have been me. I shrugged it off and would have gone back to work the next day to a job that nets me under 1500 bucks a month, with no savings in the bank, precisely one paycheck away from disaster, like a schmuck.

    That’s life. I thought. Some guys just have it.

    But he doesn’t have it. He just had the appearance of it for a while, like a hot chick.

    Brandon Marshall was the first inkling. When we got rid of Brandon, it was like winning the lottery only to have it taken off you again before you got to spend any of it. We gave away the best player we had. Just gave him away. Mike Ditka wouldn’t have done that. Mike was an Alpha Dog. He was the baddest Lion in the pride, the biggest Bear in the Den. He was older than the other Alphas, but he still knew how to walk. He’d been down roads none of the cubs had ever seen. Fox’ dad was a SEAL … but HE wasn’t, just the son of one. He had a fucking locker room FULL of Brandon Marshalls. Fox couldn’t handle ONE. I don’t know what happened in that locker room, nobody here does, but with the right leadership anything is possible. Maybe he is what his CV says he is, a guy that will get to the Super Bowl but can’t win you one.

    The FA moves were easily called by any number of us, and were, months before they happened. If any of us were GM, Mo Wilkerson would already be on the roster, or on his way when he signs his tender. But you bring two guards on board, after putting Long back at guard … then you trade down TWICE to get one …. with Henry and Ward still on the fkn board??

    There’s no defense for Pace on this one, this isn’t a “we’ll see how it pans out” thing. This is Pace over-analyzing too much and watching draft Day last night. This is a fuck-up of gargantuan proportions. Even if Bullard and Whitehair are good …we don’t NEED them.

    13.14.15. Ward. Henry. Robinson.

    Jesus, Mary and Joseph. I am Jack’s expression of complete dismay. When New Bear gets back from Passover he’s going to Pass Out.

    Your friend, in sobriety (just about).

    Irish.

    • Trac

      You had my ear until the pineapple pie Irish but let me honor you with some fine sarcasm.

      Like I said before, the devil must be chained up underneath Soldier Field. Every time waffle kneels for confession, he will be fed.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        What the fuck does that even mean? Don’t go all K Cameron on me.

        • CanadaBear

          You just need a profanity laced translator. Trac basically said you’re nothing but fucking devil meat. That can’t be good. Or can it? I’ve listened to the devil’s music for 50+ years so that devil shit is pretty overrated.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            The Devils meat.

            Irish – we have our 2nd album title

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            ahhh, i completely understand. Devil’s meat. That’s what the Hinsdale businessmen buy on the cheap and resell in the hood. Old Carl Buddig pastrami with 2 date changes has made a lot of Range Rover payments.

          • CanadaBear

            Love the Carl Buddig shoutout. That shit is completely tasteless. The flip side is it never goes bad. It’s already as bad as it’s going to get!

    • Irish Sweetness

      With some hours to cool down, I may have been a bit strong on Pace, but I won’t call it an over-reaction. It was my immediate reaction, so I won’t delete it.

    • Captain Obvious

      Wait. Bullard doesn’t fit a need?

      Bullard is a 3-4 DE. A little light, but we have plenty of big bodies (4-3 DT bodies) already.

      I agree on Whitehair–he doesn’t fit a need.

      But Bullard absolutely does. What NEED would Henry have filled? What NEED would A’Shawn (a DT) have filled?

      Here’s the rub:

      You say, “TAKE JIHAD WARD!”

      But if you expect–reasonably so–a guy to be available the next round, and the consensus is that he shouldn’t go before the next round, and someone takes him, who is the sucker? You for waiting, or the team that took him higher than he should have gone?

      We got this with Long. People complained that the 1st round was too high for him–even though it was unlikely he would’ve been around when the Bears picked in the 2nd. This is the opposite situation–rather than taking a guy earlier than he “should” go, Pace backed off and “missed out.”

      Some people aren’t happy no matter what happens. Take a guy at 41 who would’ve been available at 51, and you catch shit. Trade back from 41 to 55 and miss out on that guy, and you catch shit.

      Let’s not forget there are a couple dozen guys representing other teams who are just as intelligent as Pace, and they have their own schemes, and those can confound your best-laid plans. Luckily, Pace isn’t a fuckup who would trade up to take a kicker in the 2nd.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Henry fills the need of Banger.

        Bullard’s listed as a DT and looks small, but fast. I see Pace mentioned DE. So fair enough …

    • burntorangenavyblue

      What’s WCG?

      • CanadaBear

        Windy City Gridiron.

  • Irish Sweetness

    We pick 19, 26, 29 in the 4th.

    I hope at least we get Howard, and maybe a DB with size.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Derrick Henry Jeff, we’ll see

    DaBearsBlog ‎@dabearsblog

    Cody Whitehair. Just reminding you.

  • Captain Obvious

    So, more perspective:

    Everyone’s going off on Pace for trading down and missing out on the run on talent after 41. Two things I have to say:

    1) The run on talent started at 32, with 4 guys that everyone–EVERYONE–loved off the board (Ogbah, Dodd, Henry, and Jones), right away. A run on DL and the best TE in the draft (who would be a good fit for us). So Pace went from looking at the #5-rated DL being available at 41 to suddenly the #9-rated DL. Maybe there’s a huge gap between those picks, talent-wise.

    2) We don’t know what Pace’s evaluations were. Maybe he had lower grades than we know of assigned to the next tier of players. Maybe he coveted a guy whom he knew was lower-rated by everyone else, and so that guy would be there at 49. Yeah, he could’ve “reached” at 41 for a guy everyone else has rated to be a 50-60 pick.

    I’d like to remind everyone of something about 2nd-round picks. John Bostic was a no-brainer in the 2nd round. Looked like a good, solid, reasonable second round pick. Tell me, what happened to Bostic?

    1st round picks are a crap shoot, with roughly 50% of them panning out. 2nd round picks are even crap shootier. Are we honestly saying that a guy picked at 41–even in this draft, where the top of the 2nd round had a lot of 1st-round grades–is SO immensely better than a guy picked at 49?

    Someone posted a thread from the old site on the 2013 draft, when people were losing their shit about Long and the rest of the draft after. Guys were saying, “Well, at least if we get ‘Bob Johnson’ in the 2nd or ‘Peter Dickless” in the 3rd, it’ll make up for reaching on Long.” You know why I made up ‘Bob Johnson’ and ‘Peter Dickless’? Because I can’t remember the real names guys were throwing out, because those guys aren’t even on NFL rosters, let alone big enough names to recognize.

    Stop hyperventilating about missing out on Dodd or Ogbah or Ward. Chances are only one of those three guys are even going to be familiar to you in three years.

    Maybe Pace got too cute in trading down. And maybe Whitehair is superfluous for a team with talent at OG and depth at C. Or maybe Whitehair ends up an All-Pro when Slauson blows an ankle in camp (a la Castro, or maybe he does a Pouncey). And maybe–just maybe–Pace DID outsmart himself trading down, but lucked into a good pick with one of the 4th rounders he picked up.

    Everyone just relax. Pace has one year of credit built up for not fucking the team over in FA and the draft. We won’t be able to judge this draft for another year, at the earliest.

    Bottom line: as it stands, we have a new DE and edge rusher (both needed) and quality depth on the Oline. The Oline has gotten better on paper. No projects, white safeties, guys with injury histories, or kickers drafted.

    • Bender McLugh

      POX kool-aid, I can dig it

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t understand your thinking on 1).

      I din’t want any of the guys you mentioned – not that it matters – but the following guys WERE on the board : Ragland, Jihad, Correa, A’Shawn, and the only guy I really wanted from this draft, Derrick Henry. We didn’t get any of them when they were there sitting on a plate with the crusts cut off. All of that pissing about for what? 3 picks in the 4th round tomorrow? Fuck that.

      • Captain Obvious

        Ragland: ILB when the Bears were set at ILB from FA, and he has potential scary heart issue
        Ward: looking at the NFL, CBS, SI, etc., he was graded as a low 2nd or high 3rd round guy. Which means people–potentially including Pace–figured he’d last. Taking him at 41 would have been wasteful in Pace’s opinion.
        A’Shawn: I’d have taken him. Pace didn’t.
        Correa: 31.5″ arms, and some were saying he would be better as an OLB. 243 lbs. That’s not DE size, not in a 3-4.
        Henry: 5 running backs already on the roster. None cost a draft pick this year. You’re just about the only person I’ve seen beating the drum for Henry.

        The problem with a run on talent is that maybe the one or two guys who you have separated from the pack get taken. Then you stand pat and get a guy you have a low 2nd-round grade on at high end of the 2nd round? Why not trade down and get a guy with a similar grade, and pick up another pick in a later round? For all you know, Pace is working on packaging 3 4th round picks for a 3rd rounder next year or something. Or there’s a Vasher or Alex Brown waiting to be picked in the 4th this year, and three shots in the round lands that guy.

        • Captain Obvious

          One note on A’Shawn. He’s really a 3-tech. A 3-4 DE wouldn’t be a stretch, and he was graded really highly, and we really don’t want to be seeing him twice a year, but he was not the ideal DE to take at 41. I would have done it because to me, he was the BPA and I think he’s young and versatile enough to be a fit for what the Bears need. But is Bullard significantly lower value as a 3-4 DE? NFL has A’Shawn graded at 6.34, Bullard at 6.08. A’Shawn was a late 1st / early 2nd grade. Bullard mid-to-late 2nd.

          Generously, I think it’s a wash. Only time will tell.

          • MB30SD

            My two new garage bands are playing the park tonight guys, you should come see us…

            Crap Shootier opens for Peter Dickless.

            Gonna be a good show

          • Captain Obvious

            Peter Dickless is the name of the actor who plays the eunuch on Game of Thrones.

          • MB30SD

            I don’t fucking care CO, I don’t watch that shit… and I name my god dammed garage bands what I fucking please.

            Peter! Dickless! (Drops mic, walks off)

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Where’s Bob Johnson?

        • Irish Sweetness

          It can’t be wasteful if he becomes your #1 DE though. If that’s Bullard, and he’s better than Ward, then okay. We’ll see.

  • Bender McLugh

    Dickerson’s take on Whitehair. POX definitely graded him top talent after Spriggs including better than all the DE’s available.

    “Even though GM Ryan Pace recently signed free agents Ted Larsen and Manny Ramirez, you can never have enough quality depth on the offensive line. The Bears should be applauded for moving back 15 spots to ultimately draft Whitehair. Thumbs up. — Jeff Dickerson”

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    I’m not going to sit here and bitch and i only had 2 rum and cokes last night so my frustrations were coming from a very coherent place.
    People can try to put themselves into the justifying mind of Ryan Pace and you can say the same thing about me. The fact is that NFC North teams solidified positions of need with the TOP players in those positions. They just happened to coincide with our needs.

    1. Detroit took the best DT that would have fit our 3-4 scheme and NEED in A’Shawn Robinson
    2. Green Bay then jumped us and took the best OT that would have fit our NEED at LT in Jason Spriggs
    3. The PERENNIAL super bowl and playoff attending Seahawks selected Jarran Reed with OUR 49th pick. Do you trust the fucking seahawks or ryan fucking Pace when it comes to dominant D drafting.
    4. The Redskins selected Su’a Cravens, the SS/LB playmaker to stop the fucking run who certainly would have been an updgrade over Adrian Fucking Amos.
    5. The Vikings selected the best CB left that would have fit our 3-4 scheme and NEED in Mackensie Alexander.
    6. The Bears then select a FIFTH offensive Guard instead of the best Free Safety available in TJ Green. A guy that has speed and range and ball skills. Everything our free safeties have lacked for what? 10 fucking years????

    Underwhelming in a Rookie Wage Scale world. Pace gets NO points for acquiring more 4th round picks in a draft that presented the Bears with top ranked solutions to CORE roster deficiencies. He got caught up and it lowered the odds of the guys that he drafted being able to make positive impacts on the future of the Bears. I threw that one in there if you were going to come back with bullshit stats on the likelihood that a draft pick would be impactful. The later the rounds go the worse the players become and the lower the chance they will play meaningful football in the league. We simply ended up trying to test that theory even more comprehensively. Pace, this Tradewind is for you. Now go get us some guys that we’ll hang onto for 4 years because you’re too embarassed to cut them after training camp.

    • Captain Obvious

      How was DT a need for us? Goldman, Hicks, Ferguson, Sutton, Unrein. That’s 5 guys for one position in the base, two slots in heavy/sub packages.

      Green Bay jumped us, yeah. How is Pace supposed to stop that? How is Pace supposed to pick a guy who went before our pick? Trade up? With what? Trade out of the 4th round to get an OT–which, with Leno set as starter, isn’t as big a need as DE or FS.

      TJ Green was graded so far below Whitehair. Not even close. “Open-field tackling issues are problematic. Too much shoulder hits and not enough wrap ups. Positioning and balance when tackling is below average. Credited with 17 missed or broken tackles in 2015. One-year starter. Asked to play so much high safety that his coverage opportunities and experience is limited. Hesitates to fire downhill after the run or catch, giving away valuable yardage. Instincts a work in progress missing opportunities to take chances and make plays on the ball.”

      You know who else was fast and crappy at tackling, and who was raw in his position because he was a recent convert from CB? Chris Fucking Conte. TJ Ward is Black Conte.

      This just reminds me of the stupidity of guys who grade drafts the day they’re done. Aside from OBVIOUS home runs (e.g., AP to the Vikings) and OBVIOUS clusterfucks (e.g., trading up in the 2nd for a kicker), you can’t judge a draft until the guys get the pads on and play for a year. As stupid as it is to judge a draft the day it’s done, it’s twice as stupid to judge it before it’s over.

      • MB30SD

        Shut yo mouth! Don’t mention that name here CO!

        • Captain Obvious

          BLACK CONTE

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            i’ll give you Black Conte, you may be right. I’ll take the rest.

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        DT was a need because the guys i’m referring to play the 3-4 DE position AND can play the 4’3 DT position. Don’t throw Ferguson and Sutton and Mitch Unrein in as some sort of justification of why the position is ALL SET. We lost games because we couldn’t stop the fucking run when needed, collapse the pocket up the middle or from the edges. Not my words just our coaches and George McCaskey.

        Green Bay jumped us because Pace forgot to adjust his Madden settings to Difficult up from Easy. We had an OT need and we dropped TOO FAR BACK. For what? More 4th rounders that’s what.

        The only part of my post that could be questioned is the TJ Green part because you are technically correct, Cody Whitehair, although doughy and weak was considered the best OG available. WE have 6 of them and all of them are fucking Oxes with NFL experience.

        • Captain Obvious

          By your logic, QB is a need. WR is a need. RB is a need.

          The roster has 5 guys who can play the position, two who are damned good fits. No one in their right mind would say the same about DE.

          The need for a DE far, far, far outweighs the need at DT. There are guys on the roster who are serviceable NTs after the two guys who are prototypes. There is maybe one actual 3-4 DE on the roster–the others are all 4-3 DE or DT mis-fits.

          DE was an absolute need. DT is a “well, a guy who can play DE AND DT would be great” need. Not a “holy fuck, we need a DT!”

          But holy fuck, we needed a DE.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Robinson is a 3-4 DE. He was there for the taking. Jarran Reed same thing. DE/DT is a need on this team. We had Brandon Dunn, WIll Sutton and Mitch Unrein playing too many meaningful snaps. That was a reason why we were losing.

            Your QB, WR and RB comparisons are irrelevant and you know it, especially QB.

          • Captain Obvious

            Everything I’ve read calls Robinson a DT. 2-gapper 3-tech. 4-3 DT.

            Can you point me to a source that calls him a 3-4 DE?

            When you have guys on the roster who can play the position versus 1 guy on the roster who’s a fit for a position, the former is not a need like the latter is.

            How come everyone in the world seemingly had DE as a need for the Bears, but you’re the only one who had DT? You SERIOUSLY think that DT was a bigger need than DE?

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            my head is going to explode. He’s 6’4 320 with run stopping and pass rushing capability. Every single expert was touting the type of player he is and the versatility. We are currently trying to transform Ego Ferguson into that and it’s not working. Will Sutton is not a good fit and was ineffective. How is taking known quantities like Robinson and Reed who can do both a bad thing since we run both schemes???

          • Captain Obvious

            So, you didn’t answer the question. Where does someone project him as a 5-tech 3-4 DE? EVERYTHING I’ve seen calls him a 3-tech DT.

            EVERYTHING I saw said Bears needed a DE. Not DT. DE.

            I’m not disagreeing with you that he is a good prospect. I’m disagreeing that DT was a bigger need than DE.

            Would Robinson be a better 3-4 DE than Bullard? I don’t know. But one thing I DO know is that everything I’ve read doesn’t call Robinson a 3-4 DE. Bullard, however, IS called a DE.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            🙂 Here’s one, from the first spot i looked on NFL.com which stands for National Football League – Commercial Website

            Robinson displayed versatility by playing inside and outside as a
            sophomore, earning honorable mention All-SEC honors from league media as
            a full-time starter (6.5 tackles for loss) by splitting his time
            between the nose tackle and five-technique spots.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We sure needed Jihad a lot more than a guard, who’s really a small tackle.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I agree with both of you.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    Want to love this pick? Read this: http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2016/4/28/11524684/chicago-bears-draftwatch-double-draft-spectacular-jonathan-bullard-leonte-carroo-travis-feeney

    FYI this was written before the draft, not after the Bears drafted him. So this isn’t just a Bears homer saying “they drafted this guy, let’s find out why he’s awesome.”

  • MB30SD

    Good thoughts captn and yonny.

    Here’s my only deal. Why stockpile picks in rounds that are statistically stacked against finding playable guys?

    Instead, why not use those picks as currency to move up and get the guys you really want? That’s my only deal… so we give up all our 4ths and 5ths and maybe 6ths, to ensure our 1, 2, 3 are known obvious top tier picks for that round.

    I know we’ve already discussed this strategy and dismissed it, but it just makes too much sense to me…. especially after this year’s first three rounds

    • Captain Obvious

      Here’s the ONLY things I like about having three 4th rounders:

      You can package them together to get something else. Trading them for a current player on another team’s roster. Trading them to move up to the top of the 4th to snag a sleeper who isn’t going to sleep much longer, etc.

      If you’re the Browns, having three 4th rounders makes some sense.

      If you’re us, it’s a bit silly. So I’m not a fan. Then again, Sherman was a 5th round pick. Maybe the lottery ticket analogy applies here. Maybe take 3 very different guys who all play the same position, and the one who wins in camp might be something special.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Maybe we are getting jj watt?

        I can dream, right?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Do you want another Peppers? Let’s get one of these guys, like Wilkerson, in their prime.

      • MB30SD

        The kam “my black safety crush” chancellor was a 5th, but yeah… that’s lottery talk.

        Now if we wanna offer Seattle the rest of our 4th and 5th Rd picks for him or earl…

      • Irish Sweetness

        See where we go with this?
        We pass up all the quality in two, to get more 4th round picks .. .to move UP in the fourth?

  • Captain Obvious

    One last bit. I’m not a die-hard Pace fan. I’m just reserve judgement. I’m as underwhelmed as anyone, but I know that these guys have about an equal chance of washing out no matter who chose them, where they were chosen, or who was actually chosen.

    So think about this:

    What if, for whatever reason–record, prior trades, deflating footballs… whatever–the Bears were slotted to have the 25 pick in the 2nd round. Would anyone be complaining so vociferously about getting the #4 ranked OL in the draft halfway through the 2nd round?

    It seems to me that the complaints center on who we COULD HAVE gotten had we stayed at 41. That’s it. Not that Whitehair isn’t a good value at 56.

    So I have a challenge: write down the names of the guys picked from 41 to 55–the guys Pace could have selected (minus the guys Pace wouldn’t have taken because they’d be plain stupid, like a QB, kicker, etc.), and in 2 years let’s really have our buyer’s remorse pity party. Because right now they’re all unproven entities who might end up being Bostic or Bazuin. Or Mark Bradley. Or Tank Johnson. Or Russell Davis. Lots of household names there, hunh?

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I just use Google when I want to find the dumb shit we’ve said.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      We didn’t need a fucking GUARD. Stop talking about fucking Value. Of course he was a good value where they picked him. They had to pick him there because they fucked up by dropping so far. God damnit.

      • Captain Obvious

        What are you so enraged?

        This is the problem judging a draft immediately.

        You. Don’t. Know.

        How ANY of these players will actually do. Hell, even “can’t miss” 1st round picks bust, frequently (see: Carimi, Gabe).

        Relax. I know you want to be the first to call this draft shit and say, “See! I told you so!” like it’s some badge of honor. But you don’t earn anything, even if you’re right.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          that’s not true at all. I don’t give a fuck about saying i told you so. Our GM killed Free Agency. that combined with a decent draft last year and a solid unsexy core driven draft this year would have gone miles towards fixing old regime mistakes that have been thrown down on our franchise QB for years. Instead the same old games were played and justifications will be made for the guys we ended up with. Ended up with, not sought out.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Absolutely. I want Bullard to be great now. But did we need a good guard more than we needed Derrick Henry? Not in a million years.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We can judge that he traded out of strength, downwards, to draft STers.

      • Irish Sweetness

        And a “guard” that played OT the last two years at that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I was a Pace fan right before he traded down twice to get away from game-changing players.

      Whitehair only becomes productive if we bench Slauson or Kyle Long!!!

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Biggsy reporting that Slauson will be released

    • willbest

      That makes no sense. He is 30, he does everything he is asked, he is healthy as far as anybody knows, and he is only being paid 3.5 million 900k of which will be dead money.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        Just the messenger Willie

      • Big Mike

        Is there a trigger for 2017

        • willbest

          No. He is a 3.4 mil cap hit this year and next year. Then his contract ends. If they cut him there will be 850k of dead money

    • DaMurph

      The guy is nothing but a classy, pro bowl caliber leader. I dont understand that shit, hope Biggs dont have a clue on this one.

      • Big Mike

        Slauson is pretty expensive. Don’t get me wrong I love the guy. But I think his contract kicks in some guaranteed money and or the pick up of 2017. Details are probably wrong, but there is some twist I his deal.

        But freeing up cap space for what?

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          Hope it’s not true. Loved his skill at both C and G. Loved his mentality and actual skill and the respect he had from the guys. Not the guy i would part with while The Bonus gets to stay and the G that did the least amount of benching gets to compete for a spot. Does he even bench bro?

          • Big Mike

            Bench is over rated. (says the guy who maxed out at 15 reps) But I really think that exercise is pointless as far as measuring football players. Besides the point. Slauson is one of my favorite dudes.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          cap number is 3.5 mill. not even in top 10 around the league. this does not make sense.

          • willbest

            It does if you need to create a need for your 2nd round draft pick.

          • Big Mike

            Sign and trade?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Mo, hopefully.

          • Big Mike

            That would make us all wrong and Pace a god.

    • Big Mike

      That explains a lot. A cap move. Also about getting younger.

      • CanadaBear

        If it’s true, I hate the move. Slauson has played well and is a team guy (moved to center without a peep). I get going younger at RB but OG’s can have pretty lengthy careers.

        • Big Mike

          I know. But what else? Fox went power crazy. It’s like he wanted to be in the spotlight

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t get it but it’s not like I know any details. Maybe Pace really is telling the truth about BPA. Head scratcher.

          • Big Mike

            I hope it’s not a Boy genius act, or it really was his best effort and he got played by the veteran GMs.

      • willbest

        Unless its a cap move to acquire Mo, it is Fing stupid. He is the best Center on the roster and the second best guard. And he is only costing the Bears 2.8 million this year.

        • Big Mike

          Got to be something, right? Getting Mo would make him a GM god. I don’t think it is the reason. Because that would be too good to be true.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        What cap? We were not tapped out, at all.

        • Big Mike

          I think after the math for signing the draft class, a budget for UDFAs, and one or two other things, we were a few million short of being able to get into Mo Wilkerson’s price range. I might not be remembering it right. But what we had available was closer to 13million.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      still got plenty of cap. why not wait until a after training camps and see what injuries pop up around the league and trade him for a late round pick

    • Irish Sweetness

      That was the buzz over on WCG – WTF is up with that?

  • willbest

    Comparing Whitehair to Long is a joke because we had no talent on the o-line tackle to tackle in 2012. So even if people felt long as a reach, at least he filled a bloody need. Right now at guard we have 1 all pro-starter, 1 excellent starter, 2 vet backups. And a 2nd year 3rd round pick. The only justification for all this activity on the interior is if Pace is a fail faster type of guy and the coaches have told him Grasu isn’t going to cut it in the NFL despite what the scouts believed.

    And no you can’t predict who is going to be awesome, but

    2010
    Top 50 players drafted – 21 (pro-bowlers)
    rest – 16 (pro-bowlers)

    2011
    Top 50 – 17
    rest – 9

    2012
    Top 50 – 13
    rest – 8

    2013
    Top 50 – 11
    rest – 6

    You are at least 50% more likely to find franchise talent in the top 50 drafted players than you are in the rest of the draft. And keep in mind 50 players is only half way through the second round.

    Reaching. There is no such thing. If you feel your guys did their homework and you have a guy 46th that everybody believes is 90th, you are risking a lot that one of 31 other organizations didn’t see the same thing that has you rating him so high. And that is the problem inherent in trading back because you think your diamond in the rough hasn’t been found.

    Here is the other problem of trading back. Excluding people we don’t need here is the list:

    Correa, Ward, Henry, Robinson, Spriggs, Reed, Mackensie

    These are now all players that Pace has bet his and the Bear’s front office reputations on that he doesn’t think will be pro-bowl franchise level players. Because if he or his scouts thought they were, he would have drafted them when he had the chance.

    • Captain Obvious

      I don’t see how you can put Spriggs on that list. Packers traded to 40 to get him. So Pace would have had to have traded UP to get Spriggs.

      Which meant that Pace would have had to have known that the Packers wanted him and were trading up to 40.

      Also, 50 is a pretty arbitrary cut off. The numbers are not significantly different if you do the cutoff as “Top 55 players drafted” versus “rest of draft”

      What’s the percentage difference of finding a Pro Bowler at 40-50 versus 50-60? That’s what this is about.

      • willbest

        Incorrect. Packers traded up to 48 to get him.

        • Captain Obvious

          Oh, my mistake. So to get Spriggs, Pace had to pull the trigger at 41. Pace figured he–or someone else he valued–would be there at 49.

          We’ll see if Spriggs is better than Whitehair. If he is, then fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck. If not, then oh well.

          But that sort of judgement will take a while to make. Anyone who says definitively today that Spriggs is a significantly better pick than Whitehair is just guessing. Based on all sorts of evidence, sure, but still guessing.

          • willbest

            It doesn’t matter what he figured any more. Pace has publicly, and irrevokably declared that those players aren’t franchise players. Because if they he thought they were he wouldn’t have gambled.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’ll tell you what’s not guessing, Jihad Ward and Derrick Henry are better than those two. And of more use to us.

      • willbest

        You are correct about 50 being somewhat arbitrary, but at some point in the middle of the second round the pro-bowl talent starts to dry up. Not having access to what the consensus grade was for each players in those years in an easy format I can’t adequately gauge expectations vs. actual ability.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Hub feels Bullard cannot play 5 tech and was a bad pick

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      He thinks Fangio will run many 4 down nickel and dime sets

      Then where are the secondary picks? All in the 4th?

      • willbest

        Who is left… 98 picks in the draft and 23 of them have been defensive backs. 25 or 26 if you count the LB/SS hybrids.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          i certainly didn’t invent the concept but quite a while back i mentioned the emergence of a nickel LB/hybrid S that was the perfect tweener of run stopping LB and cover safety for Tight Ends and Running backs out of the backfield.

          Cravens, Jack, Deion Jones, Darron Lee, etc.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            You did, and I’m on board with having that guy. We had our pick of that litter. Came away with none.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Cravens was perfect. Played both S and LB so had a range of skills, and the size to be versatile and tough.

    • Captain Obvious

      How much credibility does Hub have anymore?

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        more than me and you

        • CanadaBear

          Maybe, maybe not.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Bullard is not a bad pick in a vacuum but Robinson would have been a guy that could have played the 5 tech and he was right there.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        Cowboys wanted next years 2 to move up and take Jones. Pace said no

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          That is too steep a price i agree but then just select Robinson at your spot, risk looking like a normal human GM that just picked the right guy without needing some nerd strategy and just move on…

          • MB30SD

            So much this. Sick of these motherfuckers out smarting themselves. Sigh.

    • Big Mike

      Hub is a tool

    • Ososfan

      Fuck Hub.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    This draft should have been an exercise in adding no brainer CORE players. The Bears haven’t done that via the draft in years and that’s why we are in dire straits. When you need to learn how to run hurdles and you still trip when you fucking jog you have to attack the basics. Angelo got fucking cute because things were going well and he literally used that value strategy until he fucked the bears for a decade.

    • DaMurph

      Im hoping Pace makes us all look stupid. Saw our first round pick several times on the TV, that is one skinny, frail looking sum bitch. He has to put 30-40 pounds on to look like a football player. Right now he looks like he belongs in the NBA

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Fangio loves him which to me carries way more weight than Pace loving him. Fangio sees something in him that he feels will be a huge advantage. I’ve come to accept that pick but part of the reason why I felt ok about it the other day was because I felt that there was no way that the Bears could fuck up the next pick of a 3-4 DE/4-3 DT hybrid that would be an instant upgrade to our current guys. I was fucking wrong.

        That would have given me the impression that Fangio could literally use Floyd as a chess piece while the hogs held down the fort and still collapsed the pocket.

        • DaMurph

          I know you saw him, does he not look downright skinny? Start hitting that pizza!

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Beanpole but with some pro training i could see him being 6’6 250 with specific instructions on how to use his skills. I don’t hate the pick because apparently Vic Fangio fucking loves him like Biggsy loves Al’s Beef Combo with Hot Peppers and a trough of buffalo blue cheese fries.

          • CanadaBear

            At a solid 250 of NFL strength, I’ll probably love the guy but he looks like he’s around 225-230 on the field. That won’t cut it in the NFL.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            ha, i’m trying to be positive.

          • CanadaBear

            Me too. That’s the good part about not knowing any of these guys. I rarely get too worked up over the draft unless all the regs are bitching (or the GM has previously demonstrated he hasn’t a clue (see JA/PE).

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            The value argument sucks man, it keeps you from stocking your team with real talent.
            People were actually bitching about Karl Joseph being picked too early….that’s right, the top ranked playmaking safety that can bring the wood and cover the pass….in a league that CRAVES that skill set was mentioned as being taken too high. That is fucking crazy.

            The Raiders, who are on a fucking run right now saw through the bullshit.

          • CanadaBear

            Gotta keep in mind that most of the people that carry on about value in the draft are a bunch of poindexters and the most athletic thing they have ever done is jump to a conclusion.

          • MB30SD

            Their D and the jags Ds are going to be fucking scary

          • Irish Sweetness

            They got Joseph AND Jihad ?????

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s hard in round 4-7 man. Shit.

          • DaMurph

            LMAO, keep going Yonny, youre killin me. Dont stop cause youre on a good roll! We need to start a list of “yonnyisms”.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    White hair only had 16 reps on bench

    Makes him weaker up top than Grasu

    But he is intense and tough guy

    • BC

      I’d like to know how much he can squat, leg strength is more important for o lineman.

    • DaMurph

      Arm length has so much to do with that, Paea had so many reps because his shirt length was like 25 inches! Ha!

      • CanadaBear

        Totally agree but it seems odd when your QB can out bench your guard.

        • Big Mike

          Cutler is a bad ass

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i think our punter can out bench him.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yep just checked O’donnell did 23 reps

          • willbest

            Why do they even make punters do that.

          • CanadaBear

            Mostly to embarrass them.

          • MB30SD

            Hahahaha

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        I thought whitehair had short arms.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Yep, 32 3/8….Which, hey, Kyle’s are only 33 3/8.

        • DaMurph

          Not as short as Paea, he has like baby short arms!

  • beninnorcal

    Slauson’s being released? I can’t say I’m a fan of this move. He seemed like he would go thru a wall for this team. He was also playing at a very high level. New guy’s got big shoes to fill, IMHO.

    • willbest

      I will be livid if this is true. If they announce this I am going to need a stiff drink or 3. I don’t care what time of day.

      • CanadaBear

        I hate it too. If they really go that direction I sincerely hope they get something for him.

      • Ososfan

        I’ll be right there with Ya will. This can’t be true!

    • Ososfan

      I hope not, Slauson has been playing close to a pro-bowl level as you can get. Plus, he’s a leader and a great teammate from what everyone says……

  • Ososfan

    Ghost mentioned Bullard yesterday and the more I see the more exciting the pick is. His speed and get-off are crazy and Bullard will probably be a day 1 starter, can’t wait.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He does look good in fairness.

  • beninnorcal

    Guess that would just be our daily remainder of how the NFL is an ugly business.

  • CanadaBear

    After reading a few articles I’ve come to the conclusion that being overloaded with interior OL men beats the shit out of sifting through the rubble of OMG, JWebb, Cookie, Bear Jew and a few other OL men that couldn’t block kids at recess.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      AAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! good point but just had a flashback.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Floyd played at 235, then beefed up to 250 for the combine. By the draft, he’s back to 235. That is fucking scary to me.

    • CanadaBear

      You gotta hope Pace doesn’t get sucked into the underwear olympics like his 2 predecessors.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Too late. No way is his body type gonna just change at 25.

        • CanadaBear

          With proper strength and nutritional training he should be able to play at 245-250 and keep it on. All we can do is hope at this point.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Basically he’s a project. A science experiment for the trainers. Ugh.

          • CanadaBear

            Can’t say that I disagree but I truly have no idea about any of these guys.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      the good news is that professional trainers and nutritionists will have their hands on this guy for months. He’ll be consuming fuel and working out under the very watchful eye of the Bears. That makes me feel alot better.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        What the hell were the trainers at UGA doing? Smh… Oh well, we lost a chicken dinner but gained a Gumby.
        Bullard is the off brand version of any number of Prime grade meat mountains we could’ve had, so at least it still looks like steak, just not wagyu.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          ha, you pulled a Pace and ordered the salad at Ditkas when Wagyu was staring you in the face.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That kobe beef burger there was delicious. Whoever ordered that and split it, thanks again.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I acted like your trainer putting quality protein into your diet so you could perform later that night at the bars.
            Then i proceeded to black out after i left you guys and didn’t even make the game the next day. Shameful.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Ha-ha, thanks dude, I need to go back.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            we’ll have a reunion. I want to meet more of the guys so they can vouch for me when i get “enraged” on the blog.

          • CanadaBear

            Sight unseen, I’ve always got your back Johnny. Except when I don’t.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            that’s because you’re a trusting and pragmatic Canadian that’s probably very sensible with his finances.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Lol, true. For the interested parties, I was stone sober through both first and second rounds. I was only fueled by my Gumby hate.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            I stopped drinking because I purposely bought a 16oz coke in order to limit the availability of rum and coke in my house. Only a creep…or pirate drinks rum straight.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            AARRGGHH! me be pirate then.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            an eastern european pirate?

        • Bender McLugh

          Gumby dammit!

  • BerwynBomber

    Schefter reporting multiple teams trying to trade up for Brown’s pick to open round 4. Speculation is that teams could be after Connor Cook.

    Also of note: Ravens have five picks in the fourth round.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      If we trade back up for Connor, and I’d almost be shocked at this point if we didn’t, we will have completely failed to take a shot at addressing the complete lack of playmakers in the defensive backfield.

      • BerwynBomber

        No word that we were one of those teams. I liked Cook, BUT most QBs taken after round 2 are rarely long-term starters.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          He has the tools. Problem is that he IS a tool.
          Rumor has it that the douchebag but talented QB in Draft Day was based on him.
          I just started that rumor, but it works.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Despite some frustration with the draft…it’s still the Draft. And like cold pizza, it’s still fun to watch shit go down. I’m relaxing in my house, the wife and one of my dozens of babies is at some Brunch, the rest are watching Lego DC Comics movies (pretty entertaining actually) and i’m sipping a Bloody Mary watching draft coverage in my jammies. Life is good.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      And by your “jammies” you mean buck naked while wearing McMahon’s ROZELLE headband,

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        and a WWJCD bracelet.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Bullard-eager-to-prove-doubters-wrong/2276b28c-e7a3-4fb0-ad8b-09beb2114639

    Some Bullard highlight pron for you early this morning. When life gives you 3rd round lemons, just hope the white slave driver draft analysts mixing the drink got the amount of sugar wrong.

    Bullard, be better than Ego…please.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I love the raiders draft so far.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      They are in Attack QB, create turnover mode.

    • BerwynBomber

      Derek Carr doubt? Seems a bit odd. Even the RG3/Cousins thing made a little sense in that they were two different types of QBs. But Cook and Carr seem very similar.

      Ah well. The Ron Wolf school of drafting: ADQB.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Jags and chargers having obviously great drafts. Both teams getting quality D players in the fourth round.

    • MB30SD

      Their entire offseason has been insane. They are going to be fucking dangerous if they can get that o moving, cause that D is absolutely beastly

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wouldn’t you give up next year’s first (bottom third!) for Wilkerson??

        If Pace gets that done .. .this is on.

    • willbest

      I would like to trade draft classes with them at this point.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Oh absolutely.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      Titans had a killer draft

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        No doubt. Brilliant draft so far.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Jack works out for the Jags, they’re killing it too.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    Well there goes a special teams pick. 5’9 and 180.

    • willbest

      Jesus, is it all muscle?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        And balls.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    And still 10 picks to go. Thankfully the clock is shorter.

    • willbest

      Teams don’t have to worry as much 4-7th because there are essentially no wrong answers.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Higbee gone, Pace time to trade a 4th Rd pick for Josh Hill. Call the Saints.

    • willbest

      My draft caring ends after about mid way through the 3rd. In rounds 4-7th I am just looking for prospects that fill holes while hoping one of them is a homerun

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Jeff’s guy Killebrew to the Lions.

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      that was who i was hoping for

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Too little too late…..

        If Jeff would have been right about whitehair and killebrew that would have been weird

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Pace is running true BPA and stocking picks. Guard was BS in the 2nd, but Whitehair had the best score.

    That’s Pace staging a team for a 8-8 season and looking farther down the line

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    We just jumped from 117 to 113 with the Rams for the 6th

    lesse who they thought was worth it

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      what the FUCK

      what the fuck is going on, now Pace traded 113 to the Cards

  • willbest

    This makes total sense considering we have a need at ILB… oh wait no we don’t

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      its a special teams pick.

      which makes sense since he’s a bit on the slow side

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        7.16 is a great 3-cone drill time, i will give him that

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        so when Pace said younger and faster he meant “less experienced and slower than the current lb’s we could currently put on specials”

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          whiter

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Ha, that’s what I meant by slower.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    I’m getting depressed watching the Killebrew safety highlights. Lions got a player

  • willbest

    Wait a second!

    “Kwiatkoski is known for his weight room work and has transitioned his body type from safety to inside linebacker.” – nfl . com

    I knew we had a white safety in us!

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      does he have collarbone issues???

      MB really loves it when they have collarbone issues.

      • MB30SD

        Sigh

    • Irish Sweetness

      Why is he listed as the Cards pick on NFL.COM – did we trade up?

      • willbest

        It was an error, its fixed now.

    • Irish Sweetness

      http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1877196/nick-kwiatkoski

      He put on 40 POUNDS!!! Maybe if he takes off 20 he can be our SS.

  • willbest

    So we still need a CB, TE, another DE, and an SS

    ed. maybe a slot WR

    • Irish Sweetness

      Maybe they drafted K’ski to lose 20 lbs and play his old position?

      • willbest

        I don’t know if he played any safety in college. It says he played all 3 linebackers in college and was a safety/wr in high school.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Hey is Howard still there? Damn, I forgot! We need a banger Ryan!!!!

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    The Pace soundbite on the radio where he keeps saying “there wasn’t enough competition on the O line” is pissing me off.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That means “We have 5 guys who are the best guys for the job”, that’s what that says to me.

      If he doesn’t draft a guy who can get us a yard and a half within the next coupe of hours then fuckim.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    So Floyd is apparently a tough guy and a vocal leader.
    Whitehair is known as a guy with nasty
    This WV kid is supposedly nasty and tough

    So Pace wants guys who will not ring the bell at BUDS. Got it.

  • Irish Sweetness

    “Maybe a couple rounds early for Deon Bush…”

    Wheer is Jordan Howard????

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Wait, was Scooby Wright still on the board when we selected Pace’s sister in law’s cousin Nick Kwisticki?

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    We took Deon Bush

    “Put some horrific tape together this year. His Florida State game was a disaster. I expect him to put some numbers up at the combine that get him drafted earlier than he should be. I think he’s a mid-rounder with very good special teams value but will need to be a backup box safety-­type of player early in his career.” ­– AFC North scout

    • Irish Sweetness

      Don’t read his NFL profile, you’ll puke. I think that was a mispick somehow.

      • willbest

        He did have the most reps at bench press among safeties.

        • Picnics with the Yakuza

          jinx

        • Irish Sweetness

          Stephen Paea. Jarron Gilbert. Point?

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        17 reps at 225 makes him stronger than Whitehair. Best rep score for a safety.

        • willbest

          4.64, 40yd though.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Read below, about the important football stuff.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Well, that is certainly reassuring… Oh wait, he’s a safety! FML.

  • willbest

    He did have a 4.52 40-yard at his proday

  • willbest

    there is our corner.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nope. Safety project.

      STRENGTHS Has the arm length of a left tackle. Long arms are extremely disruptive against 50/50 balls. Uses length to stuff blockers and get into the action. Values run support and tackling and is never shy. Unusually high tackle count for a cornerback (82 this season) and forced three fumbles. Not intimidated by physical receivers from bigger programs. Offers help outside his area if he reads quarterback’s intentions. Closes the deal when he has a shot at an interception finishing with 13 for his career including six this year. Instinctive and aware in thirds coverage and looked comfortable playing from safety slot.

      WEAKNESSES Sticky inside foot that is slow to react against quick, inside release against press coverage. Lanky body doesn’t come with loose hips. Struggles to open and run with speed when beaten off the line. Recovery speed is below average. Long strider missing stop-­start athletic traits to maintain tight, man coverage. Uses jabs to receivers downfield as safety net that will be called penalties in the pros. Doesn’t have desired bulk and strength as a safety.

      DRAFT PROJECTION Rounds 4 or 5

      NFL COMPARISON Trumaine Johnson

      BOTTOM LINE Long and lanky with the arm length and interception production that will have teams trying to find a spot for him. Hall doesn’t have the speed or mirror and match ability to be a sticky man­-cover cornerback and his thin frame isn’t ideal as a safety. However, Hall’s instincts and tackle production scream safety if he can add muscle to his frame.

      • willbest

        Maybe but I can’t believe we are going to roll with Fuller and Porter out there and nobody backing them up.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Then you draft Hargreaves in the first, with our original pick.

          • willbest

            Yes well that is what I would have done. Or Tunsil and found a corner in the 2nd if I believed that much in Bullard

          • Irish Sweetness

            Draft Tunsil then Derrick Henry in the second. BOOM! Short yardage solved. Go defense the rest of the draft buying lottery tickets.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Have you met our GM? He’s swinging free, baby!

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      BOTTOM LINE Long and lanky with the arm length and interception production that will have teams trying to find a spot for him. Hall doesn’t have the speed or mirror and match ability to be a sticky man­-cover cornerback and his thin frame isn’t ideal as a safety. However, Hall’s instincts and tackle production scream safety if he can add muscle to his frame.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      haha, watch the highlight film. The pass plays he picked off looked like they were scripted by a movie director and that Jason Biggs played the role of QB.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        Greg Gabriel says Hall reminds him of Peanut and anticipates him working out at corner.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Has greg gabriel read the scouting report ?

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I wish there was an anonymous scout twitter feed along the bottom of the screen so we could get feedback on picks. Responses like, “what the fuck was that GM smoking?” and “A gradeschool computer science experiment could create a code that could select better draft picks”.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You saw my tweets!

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Sophmoric slump for sure for Pace.

    Rebuilding year, yes, but this has no semblance of vision or plan. Is chaos and disorder the new order?

    • Picnics with the Yakuza

      It’s true BPA. You could have written a bot to do these picks, he’s just picking the guy with the highest NFL.com composite score.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The bot wouldn’t trade down twice in one round to fuck it all up though.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          SOMETHING stange is going on at Halas Hall, seriously

    • Irish Sweetness

      Whitehair is making more sense now. I don’t think they’re happy going with Grasu. Montgomery could be finished. They’re moving SLauson inside to Center and don’t like our depth. But we just signed two guards!!

      • willbest

        If they bounce Grasu, and move Slausen to center I would be fine. I can cut Pace some slack for his 3rd round pick the first year of his draft not being up to snuff since he was most likely using Emery’s scouting info.

        But if Slausen gets cut I am going to lose my damn mind.

        • Big Mike

          rumor is that slauson is on the chopping block

          • willbest

            For what? Telling a racist joke? Not babysitting Pace’s kids? I don’t understand! So confused right now. Is the sky blue?

          • Big Mike

            For cap space to get Mo Wilkerson… I don’t know. It was posted earlier somewhere. Could all be rumor

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Weird because he deserves another full season since he was injured the year before. Need more results efore we do anything with him.

          • Big Mike

            It’s an odd rumor. He was arguably our best lineman last year.

      • Big Mike

        Montgomery isn’t under contract I don’t believe. He was on a 1 year deal. Perhaps Grasu shows up for OTAs and didn’t bulk up?

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Didn’t he shatter his leg last year? And no, I believed he was a ufa.

          • Big Mike

            He did. He’s likely done.

    • Big Mike

      Not true. He’s taking long, fast explosive guys in rounds 1-3. He’s looking for guys who make the roster and contribute today. Special teams, depth, competition. Bears (and everyone else) need to pressure the QB. (Floyd), 2nd round guard (no fucking clue) Bullard – excellent 3rd round pick. 2 DBs makes sense. The LB they took, good depth special teams ACE?

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        He took one long explosive guy in round 1-3.

        • Big Mike

          Bullard I believe also fits that description. I know you didn’t like the draft results. I’m looking for the positives.
          “When you watch the tape on him, there’s one thing that you can’t coach with these guys is get off. His get off is excellent. I think there’s a lot of advantages just from that alone.”
          Analysis

          Strengths

          Quick and instinctive off the snap. Has a sense of where the ball is going and heads in that direction. Moves well down the line against zone plays. Uses hands and inside shoulder to brace against blocker to prevent a cross face block. Comes out of his stance with good pad level and burst. Attacks gaps and produces disruptive results. Half of his tackles gained two yards or less and was credited with 17.5 tackles for loss. Hard-charging, high-effort defender. Has above average change of direction talent for his size and a second gear in pursuit of ball carriers. Competitive and willing to mix it up. Had several physical reps against LSU and Vadal Alexander. Hands are solid, but can get better. Able to generate a bull rush and has potential to roll through guards with weak edges en route to the quarterback.
          Weaknesses

          Leggy with duck­-footed gait. ‘Tweener frame. Comes off the ball with good pad level but plays taller and taller as the play continues. Always in a hurry and is prone to overrun his fits against zone and get washed down. Doesn’t play with much quick-­twitch movement. Average explosiveness and suddenness means his pad level and technique have to be tightened up. Gets turned out of gaps by double teams. If his initial pass rush doesn’t create an advantage, he tends to sit on blocks and look to bat ball down.
          Draft Projection

          Round 2

          NFL Comparison

          Mario Edwards

          Bottom Line

          Has the frame to add more functional strength and mass and may need to since his best fit appears to be as a 1­-gapping defensive tackle in an attacking scheme. Bullard can be a very disruptive player off the snap when his pad level is good and he’s an excellent tackler allowing no broken or missed tackles all season. Bullard will need to improve his pass rush and add necessary size, but he is an ascending talent whose game should continue to improve at the next level.

  • willbest

    I am with MBHP… somebody needs to get Pace checked for a stroke immediately.

  • willbest

    I guess not only are the Bears high on Leno, they are as high on Tayo as Irish is.

    • Big Mike

      or high. With tunsil and the gas mask bong

  • Irish Sweetness

    Seriously. NEEDS? No short yardage RB. No Wide Receiver.

    • willbest

      WR is set. You have AJ, White, and Wilson on the outside, and Royal/Mariani in the slot. Its not ideal at slot, but it is a lot better off than the secondary.

      • Big Mike

        I’d argue it is pretty good. It’s also a HUGE improvement from last year where I think Mariani lined up as our #1 receiver. (ugh, that was awful)

    • Big Mike

      Defense my friend, defense. Cutler is fine. Short yardage RB is not a position. We have at least 5 wide receivers. Jeffery, White, Royal, Wilson, Mariani

      • Irish Sweetness

        I like two of those. One injury to #1 or #2 and we’re screwed.

        The Titans think short yardage is a position, they have Demarco Murray and drafted Henry.

        Jordan Howard has a draft rating of 6.2 and we still haven’t taken him. These are all low 5.5s being taken.

        • Big Mike

          Wilson could step up. It’s when you get injuries to all three top guys that you flail around. But that’s any team. I don’t know the rating scale and am only now getting caught up on round 4.

    • willbest

      Why don’t you love Unrein. I could get 2 yards behind him and Long

      • Big Mike

        exactly. Irish loves him some offensive firepower. Although I’m a bit surprised that after 6 picks, only 1 was offense and that was a very good player in a position we didn’t need to fill.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I love a yard and two inches.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Stop talking about yourself

  • willbest

    We must also love Khari Lee if we are really going to roll with him as TE2

    • Irish Sweetness

      You know who we could have split out wide as a TE?

      (puts shotgun in mouth and pulls trigger)

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        hmmm, let’s see…. a running back that never played TE in his life?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Ran all the receiver routes at the combine. impressed scouts.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Irish, i’ve shot a gun before but that doesn’t make me a SEAL.

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Score Radio Ad classifications:

    * Tax attorneys for IRS wage garnishment
    * DUI attorneys
    * Casinos
    * Gentleman’s clubs
    * Pizza
    * GNC testosterone powders
    * CBS crime dramas
    * Mortgage brokers hawking the same shitbird ARMs that caused the CDO detonation
    * Auto insurers that will insure ANYONE

    670 is like the official radio station of Potterville in Capra’s film.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      haha, Pizza.

    • Big Mike

      they know their target audience…

    • CanadaBear

      Who’s the official Bail/Bondsman for the Score?

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Probably a caveman

  • willbest

    Packers have now drafted to inside LBs. They are committed to getting roid rage barbie back out to harass QBs

    • BerwynBomber

      Not that committed if they are relying on a fourth round pick.

  • Irish Sweetness

    The only good thing about the 4th round is that it will be over in 4 more picks.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    A kodiak bear, a black bear and a panda line up to be drafted by Pace.

    He picks a red panda

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    I’m enjoying Hub trashing Khadeem Carey.

    • Big Mike

      Hub continues to be an idiot.

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        Did you get scorned as a caller?

        • Big Mike

          No. But for as much time as he spends on this, his insight is silly sometimes. Khadeem Cary hasn’t had enough carries to be anything. He was pretty good in short yardage last year, is inexpensive, young and knows the system. He’s a guy on the team, that’s all he needs to be.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Carey has no speed, no real juke moves, is really too small to be a proper short yardage back and can’t catch out of the backfield. Ok, he has scrap. But he’s going to get Cutler killed in pass protect and just overall not a NFL back.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You know who would have been great in there for pass pro at 6’3 and 247lbs?

            (gets dragged out of DBB bar and beaten to death)

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Hey Irish I saw Elvis and Nixon last night. You will love this film.

            Spacey and Shannon KILL IT in the roles.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wow, co-written by Cary Elwes – the Princess Bride dude?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yep, Robin Hood Men in *falsetto voice* Tights!

          • Irish Sweetness

            There was a 1997 mockumentary called ‘Elvis meets Nixon’, I see.

  • Irish Sweetness

    8 more picks for nobody to draft Howard. For the love of 8lb baby Jebus, just give us a meaty black man that can run a yard and a half.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I’m sure there’s plenty of citizens of Chicago we could ask to walk on the team?

      • Picnics with the Yakuza

        We could give Jamarcus another shot

        • CanadaBear

          Uh, no.

    • willbest

      I thought we were drafting a white QB

    • willbest

      There has to be something up with howard if he is still there.

      • http://www.upitpuppet.com/ evantonio

        we have him now. see? pace knew exactly what he was doing.

    • Big Mike

      We got your guy.. How about that.

  • willbest

    Apparently in the UK they plan on discriminating against good looking girls in advertisements because it promotes an unrealistic body image and makes fat and ugly women feel bad about themselves.

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/media/advertising/sexism-in-adverts-to-be-investigated-by-advertising-standards-authority-a7003966.html

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Will that include if you have nice, white, straight teeth?

      • willbest

        I thought that was supposed to be an endearing flaw. Or do they just not believe in orthodontics over there.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Someone is gonna tell us to go to bloody hell

  • willbest

    A ginger tackle! Why did we not draft him!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Because he wasn’t a safety?

  • willbest

    Bills drafted Cardale Jones. They really are in search of the next Cam Newton in Buffalo

  • willbest

    There, Irish can go in peace

  • 505Bears

    So who is out at RB then? Carey?

    • CanadaBear

      Between Perry, Carey and Rodgers. Unless Howard really sucks.

      • Bender McLugh

        I say Jizz

        • CanadaBear

          The team doesn’t have much invested in any of the 3 so that makes it tricky. Jizz isn’t on ST’s so that’s gonna hurt him.

      • Big Mike

        Rodgers. WTF he’s 5”6″ averaged 1.9 YPC last year. Every time he got the ball, it was like a give up play.

        • CanadaBear

          I agree Jizz isn’t all that. To be honest I’m not really crazy about Perry or Carey, either.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Perry might be our best back. Jizz is small. We can let him go.

          • willbest

            Even after we drafted Howard you are still on the Perry wagon?

    • Big Mike

      Jizz rodgers.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    I like the RB pick. Watched him a lot, has good vision on the field

  • burntorangenavyblue

    If the extreme beefing up of our oline is any indication, preserving the qb and upping the run game, then our rbs may have a decent year

    • willbest

      It wasn’t an extreme beefing up of our O-line. Leno might be competent, but we have a big fat question mark in our backup tackle and backup tight end.

      • MikeBrownhadaPosse

        Yeah, so again, why draft a guard? BPA my ass.

    • willbest

      I will say that the Saints theory on the o-line while Pace was there was an iron wall interior and it is absolutely certain he is attempting to replicate that here.

      • SC Dave

        So the QB can step forward to evade the edge rush.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Pace pulls off the Occulus VR headset when the day ends, looks around at his associates and Fox.

    “Wow, that was so real! I’d hate to do that in real life!”

    The entire room of people’s mouths drop open

    • Bender McLugh

      Pace-er’s Game

      • Big Mike

        Well played.

  • willbest

    We are going to roll with 4 RBs. Langford and Howard are obvious. So who is the odd man out Carey, Perry, JRod (presuming Lasike is just a camp body).

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      Lasike is a fullback.

      • willbest

        But that is why we have unrein

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          well, he was too effective, like we didn’t want to waste him anywhere outside of the goal line.

    • Bender McLugh

      Jizz is the oldest right?

      • willbest

        He is 26, so not that old, but yes he is. We also gave him an $80k signing bonus, which is an indication that they think he has a good shot at making the 53

    • Irish Sweetness

      Carey brings nothing to the table except his roster spot. Lasike goes back on PS.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I might go on hiatus again. This draft has seriously harshed my mellow.

    • CanadaBear

      Shake it off, brother. Rub some dirt on it.

      • willbest
        • burntorangenavyblue

          You’re gonna lose your man card posting that

          • willbest

            When another man gets his panties in a twist you are allowed to break out the Taylor Swift on him.

          • CanadaBear

            But I think you need the version of The Rock lip-syncing it.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            That’s my anthem when I’m playing darts. Psychological warfare.

    • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

      i just want to hear the spin.
      I am interested in Slauson’s fate.
      I want to see Alshon sign a contract.
      We need to sign a TE. This is bad. We have Zach and Phil Housler. I don’t count Khari Lee.

      • willbest

        We gave up a 6th round pick this year for Lee maybe if we hadn’t we would have had enough currency to move up in the 2nd like Pace wanted to.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          maybe something will happen post draft.

  • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

    Jordan Howard looks a little slow. He might be big but to fit through tiny holes to get that tough yard you need the linemen firing out and you need to hit the holes a million miles an hour and on weird angles. Howard is stiff as hell. That shit gets tripped up easily from the side and back. We’ll see.

    • CanadaBear

      If the OL takes the next step and Unrein is in front of him …

    • Bender McLugh

      You’re much nicer with your kool-aid glasses on

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        it actually hurt a little bit to throw out a useless platitude about a RB that brings nothing to the team that we need. Ha, sorry. I just realized that i had deleted the platitude and just wrote “we’ll see”. ha.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I passed out with happiness.

      Somebody called Howard the best pure running back in the draft. Can’t remember who.

      Mayock just said about the pick: ” He’s a big guy with some speed. He has starter traits.”

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Like my dad said when I was younger

      “Enis tripping over his penis”

    • Irish Sweetness

      I see what you mean. He looks slow, but he’s not.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otzk5QUSjAY

      • CanadaBear

        Looks a lot like Carey to me.

      • Big Mike

        You will love him.

    • Big Mike

      “New Bears RB Jordan Howard: “I’m a grinder. I can get those tough yards
      in the NFL. … My game suits the NFL more than it does college.”

      • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

        Then let’s put unrein in and fucking pound the rock.

  • willbest

    Perry is on a min deal 550k, no dead money
    Rodgers is on a min deal 760k, 80k of dead money
    Carey is on his rookie deal 600k salary, 222k of dead money
    Langford is on his rookie deal 525k salary, 408k of dead money

    So realistically, any one of them could be gone with Langford being a big admission of failure.

    • Bender McLugh

      Of course Langford is going nowhere

      • willbest

        Somebody had posted that he was like the worst back in the league last year among those with more than 80 carries.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Hard to imagine we used at least 80 plays on him….

          • willbest

            Forte was out for 3 weeks last year, Langford carried 148 times and was targeted 42 more.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He ‘looked’ good. Love him on screens.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            You love your sexy chocolates

        • Big Mike

          Once he got more than 5-10 carries a game all of his stats improved dramatically. He has speed that we’ve never had a RB. Faster than Forte, Payton and so on. He will never be Walter, nobody will, but he could approach Forte’s production. (or not “Doh”).

          • CanadaBear

            I think he’s somewhere between those 2 stats. A step down from Forte but a decent back.

          • Big Mike

            Forte’s forte.. see how I did that has been his pass catching ability, along with longevity. That and last year he was our only professional receiver in some games.

          • willbest

            Forte was 44 for 58 on receptions, which is crazy next to Langfords 22 on 42

          • Big Mike

            I don’t know what your stats are. Langford had a couple big drops, but he ran his routes very well.

          • willbest

            Langford had 22 receptions on 42 targets. Forte had 44 receptions on 58 targets.

          • Big Mike

            hmm. He clearly didn’t drop 20 balls. nor did forte drop 14. I don’t remember Langsford struggling. Forte’s numbers were so good because the ball was rarely in the air more than 15 yards.

          • willbest

            It is only a drop if it hits them in the numbers or if it was in their hands and falls out without being knocked out.

            The targets its who Jay Cutler threw it at. So the reason for the lack of a reception could be uncatchable (ie. thrown at the RB’s feet to avoid sack overthrown), mistimed/wrong route, batted away, etc

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            I believe PFF credited Langford with 8 drops, but what constitutes a drop is debatable from source to source

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t really like the other 3 guys much and Langford still has a lot to prove as far as I’m concerned. Hopefully Howard really is a banger. You know Fox will give these guys every chance to pound the rock.

          • SC Dave

            Right there with you, Canada. Just hoping Langford is worth the trust Pox have granted him

          • SC Dave

            Gale sayers was damn fast. The only player, said Halas, that he had ever seen that never got caught from behind.

            Hyperbole perhaps, but pretty strong praise from the Papa.

          • Big Mike

            He was fast.  But that was 50 years ago

            Sent from Outlook Mobile

            _____________________________

        • TomC

          “Somebody had posted that he was like the worst back in the league last year among those with more than 80 carries.”

          By what metric? At least one set of pointy-head analytics had him fifth from the top in value per play (http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/rb).

      • SC Dave

        A double entendre, tho perhaps inadvertent

    • Big Mike

      Why would Langford be on this list? Or Carey for that matter.

      • willbest

        I just listed them all. And quite frankly, I think any one of them could win the 1 and 2 job in camp.

        • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

          I love RB by committee because these guys can’t get butt hurt when it’s someone else’s turn to carry.

        • Big Mike

          Jizz isn’t an nfl back. Have no use for him. Don’t know why. But I hate those little tiny fuckers.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s a return man, isn’t he? Got injured really early in the season.

          • willbest

            We haven’t used him as such. Back in Atlanta he did okay with 25.7 yards per return

          • willbest

            I tend to agree that Jizz is the most likely to not make it, but he could easily beat out Perry.

          • Big Mike

            Couldn’t car less about the 4th of 5th RB on the Chicago Bears. These guys have to earn it on Special Teams. Jizz can’t do anything there. Perry was meh, and if I recall Carey was pretty good no? Or I am I mixing up Perry and Carey.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Carey and Perry both contribute

          • CanadaBear

            I think you and Johnny are both correct (kinda sorta). Perry did play well on ST’s and Carey looked better on ST’s as the year progressed. Carey also looked much better when he was given the chance to carry the ball. Nothing fancy but running downhill with some determination. Don’t think either one of them will ever be more than a change of pace/give a guy some rest type of RB.

          • Big Mike

            Which is fine. The new guy will compete for carries. We’ll have Langsford and a trio of servicable backups who all play special teams. Done and done.

          • Cutty of Mt. Olivet Nazarene

            Perry strong on specials

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        Langford and Howard are sticking. Everybody else is fighting for a roster spot based on ST.

        I say this not because Langford and Howard are the best 2, but because they’re the 2 this regime has invested in.

  • Bender McLugh

    I gotta think Jizz is odd man out even if he shows something in camp, he’s injured too often

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    Pace is establishing a clear pattern here.

    Round 1: long, athletic (ideally) playmaker
    Rounds 2-3: one big boy for each line
    Rounds 4-5: smaller speedy guys

    Emphasis in rounds 4-5 on productive players. Fairly “safe” picks.

    Last year round 6 was a high-upside project. Does that repeat itself here for the last 2 rounds?

    • CanadaBear

      I had to look to see who was the 6th rounder. It’s Irish’s guy!

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        Tayo Fabuluje. And Bears are giving him every chance to earn a roster spot this year by not addressing OT at all.

        • Irish Sweetness

          On a sure run down, he can go in for Leno, or beside him. He’s unblockable at 350 moving straight forward. He does not suck in pass pro, giving up no pressures in pre-season.

        • willbest

          I think that pretty much means they plan on giving it to him if they don’t add a tackle here.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            have to think they add a veteran OT in FA, even if they draft one here. Otherwise Long and Whitehair have OT experience.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We have Tayo and Weaver as the two backups. Weaver looked good in the one breakdown of the Miami game I saw,

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            like I said, have to think they add a veteran OT in FA, even if they draft one here. Otherwise Long and Whitehair have OT experience.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Why? Leno goes down, Tayo goes in. Massie then goes down, Long goes out to RT, one of our 9 guards goes to RG. Or Weaver goes in. There are other OTs on the roster. It’s receivers and TEs we need to be looking at.

  • Irish Sweetness

    To anyone who thinks Perry is a camp body Lest ye forget …

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gJTvrPIHwU

    210lbs.

    • willbest

      A preseason hero!

  • Picnics with the Yakuza

    Are we talking about their thighs and the quality of their teeth yet?

    Just to go full Trader Joe on it

  • willbest

    Bets on whats coming up? TE? Slot WR? a CB?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Has to be a TE if he’s following needs. We have two slots, so maybe a tall WR?

  • willbest

    The Vikings moved up to draft the Nazi!

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    I would be so happy with Dan Vitale here.

    Checks all the boxes for what Bears are trying to do.

    Great athlete/speedy for his position.

    Versatile, adds depth to the offense. Can play FB, H-back, even 3rd down RB (good pass catcher, excellent pass blocker)

    Tough, high football IQ

    Plus ST player

  • Irish Sweetness

    We got a fourth next year in a trade, right? Does two of those equal Josh Hill? Because that ends any passing game questions.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Right before our pick Jerell Adams, 6’5 TE 247.

  • willbest

    The last 2 years less than 50% of 6th round picks make the 53-man roster

    • Irish Sweetness

      We just drafted one of them. SMH.

  • willbest

    Well they are going to have a lot of new names in the DB room

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    makes sense we always could use another DB with a hyphen in his name.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    Another ST pick with potential to develop into a contributor in the secondary.

    This fits the “project” description, I think.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The safety we just drafted? Even the commentary guy said he wouldn’t make the team!

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        doing some research on him, he started 3 years at CB then senior year was All American safety.

        If nothing else, athletic enough to contribute on ST. Most projections had him in round 4-5, a few even in the 3rd. NFL.com says he has the tools and mental makeup to develop into a starter. http://www.nfl.com/draft/2016/profiles/deandre-houston-carson?id=2555381

        seems like a decent enough upside pick to me in round 6.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We have 8 safeties on the roster, jus’ sayin.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            yep, exactly 2 of whom are anything resembling proven in the NFL.

            Also, let’s do a little math:

            90 man offseason roster, 53 stick. 59%

            8 safeties, 5-6 will stick. 63%-75%

            So it’s not like they have an excess of safeties.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            and there is always a practice squad if they show promise.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          I think we’re trying to get rid of McManis who is sp team ace, but a liability otherwise.

  • willbest

    Vikings apparently traded their 3rd this year for a 3rd and 4th next year and a 6th this year

  • Irish Sweetness

    Wow. Fins draft a 5’5 WR!!! 165lbs!!

    • willbest

      returner?

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’d get fucked UP!

        • willbest

          Only if you could find him. He can hide in your facemask blindspot.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Inconspicuous peddler for Tunsil?

  • willbest

    Our TE situation… suboptimal.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Flaccid, as GP would say.

    • Irish Sweetness

      And right after us, BiQueens draft A TE.

      • willbest

        The Nazi they traded up to draft also demonstrated his TE ability at his pro day.

        • jab

          With his size, I think that’s where he’ll do well. It’s hard watching his game film since it looks like he’s playing against really bad high school teams, but his pro day film looks really good. Wish the bears would have taken a flier on him.

  • 505Bears

    Another S?!

    • Irish Sweetness

      As with guards, Pace is hoping “the more the merrier”.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      Fangio likes to have a lot of S depth. They had basically nothing behind Amos/Rolle.

      And 2 of the 3 DBs drafted today might be CBs. Kind of hybrids there, which Fangio has liked to use as nickelbacks in the past.

      • 505Bears

        Glad you all understand what’s going on, because I really don’t

      • Irish Sweetness

        Jones-Quartey makes the team and likely starts. That means Pace has just drafted two safeties knowing one of them is getting cut.

        We have 6 CBs and 8 safeties right now.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          Your ability to fall in love with borderline rosterable players is highly amusing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He was our starting safety last time I looked.

          • Johnnywad

            That doesn’t mean anything moving forward.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Not with 8 safeties on the roster, no.

          • Picnics with the Yakuza

            Charles Leno was a 7th and now starts,,.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            This is what he does though. He talks about Terry Williams as if he’s just as proven as Eddie Goldman. He thinks Tayo Fabuluje is already a proven quality NFL OT. He latches onto guys based on one good preseason performance and thinks they’re already studs.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

          Would it surprise you if Rolle gets cut?
          Wouldn’t surprise me

          He’s mediocre, at best.

          POX is trying to upgrade the position.

          He’s loading the gun the improve the chances of hitting.

    • jab

      It’s special teams depth. Not a bad pick.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Yo. What was that WR who was the fastest kid at the combine? Willard White or something.

  • Irish Sweetness

    That midget receiver the Fins drafted is Jakeem Grant, he ran a 4.1 40. Four point one. Wind assisted.

  • Big Mike

    drafted out.. next

  • willbest

    And our prospect slot guy to conclude things. Lets see what UDFA brings us in the next couple weeks.

  • jab

    New thread?

  • Johnnywad

    Hoyer a one year deal with the Bears. We could certainly do worse.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Yeah, I think that’s a very solid pickup. Free agency has been beddy beddy good to us.

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    • SC Dave

      This. I am happy with that signing.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      Finally, my vet Qb.

      in this case I like the 1 yr deal. See how he helps Cutty and the rest in the QB room.

      Always a good idea to have an experienced QB as an extra set of eyes.

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, now the speculation is that Whitehair makes Slausen expendable? I don’t care for THAT.

    • SC Dave

      I doubt that is the plan. Maybe next year, but not now.

    • Captain Obvious

      I think anyone speculating that is ignoring how much the organization has benefitted from Slauson. He’s been solid and has excelled at center, too.

      I think it makes more sense that Slauson slides to center, and Grasu gets a year to back up, bulk up, and try to crack the starting lineup or be forever a second-stringer.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)
        • CanadaBear

          If he really ate all that in one day he must have spent the next day on the crapper.

      • Marierdewitt2

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    • Irish Sweetness

      Not unless Slauson moves to Center.

  • SC Dave

    Is MB still alive? We drafted white guys!

    • MB30SD

      Yaaaaaaay!!!!

  • Captain Obvious

    I know this was a weak TE draft, but unless Pace wheels and deals for someone decent, we’re putting a lot of trust in Zack to stay healthy.

    I like the late-round DB push. Hopefully one of those guys will pan out and stick on the gameday roster.

    All in all, it looks like a solid draft. Not spectacular, not bad. There seem to be missed opportunities, obviously. But until the pads go on, it’s all pure speculation. And we can’t really make any real judgement until maybe 8 games into the season.

    I think the O line is going to be a bunch of maulers. The running game could be pretty fucking scary.

    • Bender McLugh

      Run game improved without a doubt

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    woohoo! a 7th round receiver that many will speculate for years that he is good.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Unbelievable that we didn’t grab a TE but managed to put 8 safeties on the roster.

      Checking out Braverman’s tape, he’s small, yeah, but he catches the shit out of the ball (check out the first catch if nothing else) and he can move. Looks better than Mariani by some way.

      Looks like a mini-Amendola.

      Definite return man, slot at a push.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        and so it begins.

  • WP4Life

    Hoyer for 1 year

    • WP4Life

      My bad. Saw posted below.

  • BerwynBomber

    Hoyer is an adequate back-up but would have been nice — at least once — to see what Fales had in a regular season game. Trestman and Fox each had a chance to do that but took a pass. Why they felt the need to start Cutler in each season finale I have no idea. It is one thing if your opponent is playing for the post-season — for the integrity of the league a team should field its best player — but neither MIN in 14 or DET in 15 was doing that.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      We still might see Fales, but yeah, not as likely this year.

      But we DEF needed a vet QB. I wouldn’t have felt comfortable having Fales as our backup.

      For all we know, he’s worse than Clausen.

    • willbest

      Well they thought more of him the Pickles half way through the season. Once the injuries pile up though 3 QBs on the roster becomes a luxury.

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    • AlbertInTucson

      Hi.

      FUCK you.

      Twice.

      With a flag pole.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    All in all, I’m not really stoked nor bummed with POXs draft.
    Honestly, not many guys where we were picking in the 1st and 2nd “wowed’ me.

    I personally would’ve drafted Tunsil or Joseph who already look like studs and aren’t projected to be studs. But I’m more conservative than Angelo, Emery and Pace I guess.

    In the second, once Dodd and Jonson came off the board, the other DEs were more or less the same IMO

    That is to say, they ALL had question marks which can make any of them a bust.

    Whitehair wasn’t a need, but he was BPA. I wanted Conk in the 1st for the same traits that Whitehair has. Whitehair simply doesn’t match up size-wise, but grit goes a long way for Olinemen.

    Olin wasn’t all that big either if I remember correctly, but no one fucked with the Bears while he was on that field. If Whitehair provides that same type character to the O, how could it not be a great pick? (

    I think y’all know how I feel about Grassu)

    Bullard might be a lil undersized, but I get the logic. It seems like POX wanted to get more explosive, faster overall on D, and Bullard fits the bill. McPhee, Houston, Goldman are solid, but they’re not going to knife thru anything.

    The Seahawks have a bunch of those “undersized” pass rushers for sub-packages (including Irvin who they just let walk).

    Putting Lloyd and Bullard on obvious rush downs will put the fear of god in Offenses. They know they might have to a second quicker, which will greatly help out the back 7. (theoretically)

    Fangio is going to be going with a lot of subpackages. We already play like 60% out of the nickle, which is why POX was targeting the secondary later.

    I would’ve gone about draft differently, but there’s no guarantee my way would’ve been any better. For all I know, Joseph is too small and will always be inj cuz of his play style, and Muffasa Tunsil is a lazy stoner with Webb-like character. Dunno.

    Find out in 3 years I guess.

    • MB30SD

      100% this.

      I don’t think he had dumb picks, just missed opportunities and meh/solid instead of fuck yeah.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        The only real option that I would’ve fist pumped for was Karl Joseph, but then we’d hear bitching about how he was drafted to high at #11 (when the raiders drafted him a few picks later).

        Tunsil seemed like a no-brainer too, but with all that shit that went down with him in real time, who the fuck knows?

        So many LTs have busted in recent drafts.

        There’s a good chance that one or two – Stanley, Conk or Tunsil – will bust. 56% hit ratio, which is really closer to 50%.

        In the second, I’m not losing any sleep over the Pack jumping us for an OT.

        We have 4. Leno, Massie, Long and Tayo.

        I’d rather give Tayo a shot. Massive body with nimble feet.

        Long is the insurance plan. Now that we have a very good prospect at OG, Long can easily kick out if need be, and we wouldn’t lose much.

        4-7 are just SP fodder with some upside.

        I like that we focused on the secondary esp at S (Rolle is not etched in stone in my book). Like that we added another HB to compete.

        We’re building the oline, added a HB.
        Improved the pass rush.

        Pass-rush/Oline

        That’s the formula for SBs

        Most would have gone about it differently, but POX didn’t exactly go rogue.

        They had specific targets. They traded up/down for them.

        Both Fangio and Fox are proven. To an extent, we must see if we know more than them.

        • MB30SD

          Yup, exact same page

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      agree with most of what you said, but i have to question the statement “Whitehair simply doesn’t match up size-wise, but grit goes a long way for Olinemen.” Like all other OG drafted he is 6’4″ 300+ lbs. Is there something I am missing?

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

        I meant more his “short” arms which is why he’s not projected as OT.

        Than again, Thomas has kinda short arms, and he’s All-Pro.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          I figured you were referring to that but I wanted to make sure.

          • MB30SD

            Do we know the penis length?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            sometimes I really worry about you.

          • MB30SD

            It’s very telling for ballance, lean, and… swagger.

            Very very important my maings.

  • MB30SD

    Watching boondocks saints for the first time I years.

    Dafoe is a fucking mac in this movie.

    Guest appearance by the hedgehog!

    YOU INSIGNIFI…CUNT!!!

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      DaFoe steals DaShow

  • Shady

    Chicago Bears: Tremendous opening set of picks for GM Ryan Pace. If Leonard Floyd, who the Bears jumped the Giants to nab, is a hit as a pass rusher, this draft will look fantastic. The Bears came back to grab Cody Whitehair (OG out of Kansas State) and Jonathan Bullard (DE out of Florida) on the second day, acquiring more depth for both of their lines. Nick Kwiatkoski is going to be king of grit in Chicago.

    One has to hope they found a free safety after drafting THREE of them in Deon Bush, Deiondre’ Hall and DeAndre Houston-Carson. The Bears defense is going to be substantially improved in 2016 because of the number of players involved.

    Jordan Howard could be a steal at running back in the fifth round, the type of guy who could steal some (a lot?) carries from Jeremy Langford. It’s a stretch, but if things break right (Kevin White comes back and makes a major impact, some of the additions hit big) the Bears are a sleeper for this division.

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25573224/winners-and-losers-of-the-nfl-draft-jaguars-on-the-rise-eagles-in-dangerous-territory

    • MB30SD

      Wow

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      does CBS drug test their writers? Way too optimistic not to be high.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Love to say “Right on” but, as we all know, these grades are are worth as much as a 3 Dollar bill.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

      IF Floyd pans out. That’s a big IF.

      But I really do like Whitehair and Bullard.

      If you’re gonna tell me A’shawn Robinson, and his ilk are lock over Bullard, I’d have to disagree.

      Bullard looks like the real deal esp where we got him.

      Whitehair looks good too. Both were graded 2nd rounders by many.

      Some really like Bullard even over guys like Noah Spence, Dodd, or Johnson.

      IAnd Kwiatkosi..a 6’3 white ILB who played S? Hmmm…sounds familiar.

      Kooool Aid all around. Oh ya!

  • AlbertInTucson

    The Patriots drafted an Illinois guard named Ted Karras. He is the grandson on former Bears’ guard, Ted Karras ( who was a starter on the ’63 Champs), and the great nephew of former Lions star,Alex Karras who went onto fame in the MNF booth, BLAZING SADDLES ‘ “Mongo” and the WEBSTER TV show.

    • MB30SD

      Mongo bad

    • AlbertInTucson

      Karras also authored the best line in the history of MNF. At the end of a blowout game when a solitary fan flipped the ABC camera “The Bird”, without missing a beat, Alex quipped to Howard Cosell (for whom Karras had complete disdain): “That means ‘We’re #1, Howard.” Classic Karras, whose “I keek a touchdown” schtick on his initial appearance on The Tonight Show with Johnny Carson helped launch his acting career.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    Watching some expose tv show on shaun gayle and how he was a player. Hahaha

    • MB30SD

      Damn…. didn’t know there was killing?!

      • beninnorcal

        What show and what network?

        • MB30SD

          Scorned, love kills. Thass all I know my brother

          • beninnorcal

            That’s all ya need to know. Have a good night. Happy draft weekend, now we can all go back to the wasteland that is the NFL offseason.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Okay, so a strange draft. Not in love with it. We could have gone …

    2. Jihad
    3. Bullard.
    4. Willie Beavers / Jerald Hawkins / Alex Lewis
    5. Howard

    or

    2. Derrick Henry
    3. Bullard
    4. Willie Beavers / Jerald Hawkins / Alex Lewis
    5. TE

    Basically we went with Whitehair – a guard who hasn’t played guard in two years – instead of Henry or Ward or Ashawn or Mackensie Alexander or Correa.

    And THAT’S bullshit.

  • Irish Sweetness

    At least we have a guy to root for. Last year’s was Tayo.

    Checking out Braverman’s tape, he’s small, yeah, but he catches the shit out of the ball (check out the first catch if nothing else) and he can move. Looks better than Mariani by some way. Looks like a mini-Amendola.

    One concern, his QB had no arm and he was catching rainbows all the time. When Cutty puts those lasers in there ..we’ll see.

    Definite return man, interesting guy in the slot.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CrD7L2u__A

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      OMG!! He is the greatest of all time.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Rex signs Gronk Jnr after the draft. He grew up a Bills fan.

    “Obviously, they have never been that good, but we were always there cheering for them and everything. But yeah, that would be awesome to be there.”

    4 Super Bowl appearances on the trot, one of the great teams and QBs of all time. SMH.

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    DHC sounded like the guy I would want at safety out of the three; and he’s from a great school. Hard to be a fuckup at W&M.
    That’ll be a fun camp storyline.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd IpleadDa4rth! (ButchDeadLift)

    How u like these apples, bitches? Haavad.

    Bears signed Harvard TE Ben Braunecker.

    Braunecker (6’3/250) was named first-team FCS All America after exploding as a senior, parlaying 48 receptions into 850 yards (17.7 YPR) and eight TDs. Braunecker helped himself in Indy, running 4.73 with an impressive 10-foot-1 broad jump and 35 1/2-inch vertical. Nicknamed “Bronk” by Rotoviz’s Jon Moore, Braunecker graduated from Harvard with degrees in molecular and cellular biology. Braunecker will need to polish his blocking to become more than a role player, but he certainly checks boxes as an athlete and receiver. – Roto

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