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Bears Get on the Board, Beat Lions in a Snoozer: Rapid Fire Reaction

| October 3rd, 2016

CHICAGO, IL - OCTOBER 02: Jordan Howard #24 of the Chicago Bears tries to break away from Devin Taylor #98 of the Detroit Lions at Soldier Field on October 2, 2016 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

(Photo by Jonathan Daniel/Getty Images)

The argument I made all offseason as to why the Bears would be more competitive in 2016, especially within the division, was because they were already competitive within the division LAST season. Yes, they went 1-5. But both Detroit games and the home Vikings game were complete coin flips. The only time a division opponent clearly outclassed them was in Minnesota, a game the Vikings needed and Bears didn’t.

Yesterday the depleted Bears weren’t just better than Detroit. They dominated them. If their special teams show up, the game is never close. Other thoughts…

  • Brian Hoyer is going to be the story this week. Nobody thinks less of Hoyer than I do but that kind of efficiency will excite John Fox in the tape study sessions. He dinks and dunks, sure, but the offense looked like a real offense for the first time this season.
  • So why so few points? Well, Hoyer is why. Alshon Jeffery will be reduced to basically the third option as long as Hoyer is playing quarterback. Hoyer is a timing/crossing route quarterback. Jeffery is a downfield home run hitter. There were a few moments yesterday where Jeffery was isolated in man coverage and Cutler would have unquestionably tossed a jump ball for him. Hoyer (a) doesn’t think that way and (b) can’t physically do it.
  • And so begins the Jordan Howard era? 23 for 111. 4.8 average. He’s big. He’s quick. He’s tough to bring down. And against Detroit he showed his versatility in the passing attack. Jeremy Langford’s role changed yesterday.
  • The offensive line is improving every single week.

  • Matthew Stafford was terrible but a lot of that credit has to go to the Bears defense.
  • Right now Leonard Floyd is more valuable in coverage than he is rushing the passer. The Bears pass rush has been invisible through the first quarter of the season. They desperately need Pernell McPhee to return.
  • Adrian Amos is going to be very popular in Chicago if he keeps hitting people like this.
  • Nick Kwiatkoski. I wanna see more.
  • Who would have guessed that through four games the Bears MVP is Eddie Royal? Very few.
  • Who would have guessed that Connor Barth stinks? Many. How many kicks are the Bears willing to let Barth shank before they admit the error of their ways and bring in competition? Are they waiting for him to lose a game?  Because, let me tell you, he’s gonna lose them more than one at this rate.
  • Cornelius Washington needs to be on the field more. Part of that is on him. He’s never healthy. But every time he’s on the field, he makes plays.
  • Kevin White’s projected numbers: 76 catches. 748 yards.
  • Why does it seem like the Bears can NEVER get a yard when they need it?
  • Who tells John Fox which plays to challenge and how can I apply to replace him? I will gladly sit up in the booth and just say “No” or “Yes” into his headset. Hell, I’ll do it for nothing. Maybe throw me lunch and few beers postgame. A car service to the hotel. A Portillo’s coupon.

Overall, it’s a stabilizing win for a team that desperately needed it. Now they go on the road, to a bad Colts team, coming off the London trip. If they can put back-to-back wins together, this campaign won’t be feeling so dreary anymore.

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  • chitownproud85

    First on Victory Monday yeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah

    • chitownproud85

      BEARS!!!!!!!!!

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Eye read it first.

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  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    So the Bears win a snoozer eh? Ha! A provocative headline if I ever saw one.

    • SC Dave

      Oh course, because Cutler wasnt in there to make it “exciting”.

      • MB30SD

        Exciting is a euphemism for “strip-sack” right?

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    The Bears need to learn how to put points on the board. It should have been 14-0 outta the gate.

    • Irish Sweetness

      No deep game with Hoyer. Dink and dunk. C’est tout.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        A Time of possession game is highly effective. If it puts wins on the schedule, that’s good enough for me.

  • Scharfinator

    “There were a few moments yesterday where Jeffery was isolated in man coverage and Cutler would have unquestionably tossed a jump ball for him. Hoyer (a) doesn’t think that way and (b) can’t physically do it.”

    In light of point B, I’m grateful for point A.

    • SC Dave

      “A man has got to know his limitations.”
      – Harry Callahan

    • Irish Sweetness

      I will never ever forget the image last week of Meredith open down the sidelines for 6 and he threw the fucking ball onto the gatorade bench.

      • MB30SD

        Awwwwwww yeeeeaaaahhhh boooooooyyyyy!

        How can you fools forget big daddy Meredith’s big coming out party yesterday y’alls?!?!?! He was owning the motherfucking field y’alls!!!

        You fools trippin. Peep THIS shit:

        4 for 28 total yard

        …you’re a fucking kid’s rented party clown sometimes my Irish brother. Alas, i still love you.

        • Irish Sweetness

          You said you were watching the Jets game !! if you didn’t see the game then calling out a bare stat line explains nothing. Two of those catches were first downs. How many times was he thrown at yesterday? He only got a look-in when Draftboy went off injured.

          I’d lay a pound to a penny you didn’t watch him in pre-season, where he got more snaps – tell the truth. He’s done better than both AJ and Kevin in catching balls thrown at him, in fact he was our best receiver in pre-season.

          If White is out for a game then the casual-watchers that don’t bother with pre-season and are blotto by the second-half will see what we have. A receiver with far better hands than either AJ or Kevin.

          • Scharfinator

            Meredith had one really nice catch I can recall. It was high and across the middle on third down, he had to fully extend to catch it. Didn’t get popped though. Was a bad throw by Hoyer that could have easily been picked if Meredith didn’t get a hand on it.

            Can’t remember him showing up otherwise though.

          • Bender McLugh

            he was running his routes well from the plays I saw he was involved. He should be in instead of Deonte Thompson – he’s a much bigger target and seems to have better hands and knows the routes better as well.

          • SC Dave

            I think it’s probably safe to say that Meredith looks better than Wilson.

          • Bender McLugh

            not as fast though, but Wilson can’t stay healthy. I don’t see Wilson staying unless he’s dirt dirt cheap

          • Scharfinator

            Even then, roster spots are never cheap in the NFL

          • Yeah, we can probably let go of Wilson.

            I think we sometimes treat him as if he was a 2nd rd pick, but he was like a 6th rounder. Those guys get funneled in and out all the time.

          • willbest

            I forget what the problem with him was, but in theory he was a 2nd or 3rd round talent that fell because of something. I thought it was discipline/work ethic, but it turns out he just can’t stay healthy.

          • I think he went to Washington, and something to do with him and coach. They got into it, and I think he quit or something.

            But many NFL insiders have said it was the coaches fault, not Wilson’s.

            Wilson”s problem is he is still skinny, and very inconsistent.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’d go with all of that, Jefe.

    It will have gotten lost in the twelve million comments of that record-breaking thread, but it’s an important stat to remember. The Lions through three weeks had allowed the opposing passer a rating of 120, leading/trailing the entire league. Nobody makes the opposing passer look as good as the Lions do. Their defense is no good and we only put up 17 points on them, beating them by only a FG. Once opposing defenses shut down our run game and rush Hoyer, the clock will strike midnight and he will return to his pumpkin status. There is no sex in the champagne room … and there are no long balls from Brian Hoyer. He will impress some with his pass to Miller who had the entire right hand side of the endzone to himself, and some of Royal’s brilliant shine will reflect on Hoyer. Let us not be fooled by scraping by against the league’s worst pass defense. Any roster QB should be able to do that. Brian Hoyer remains a bum. He is a backup QB promoted to starter because Conor Shaw broke his leg (regardless of his depth chart position at the time. We know what we saw. (Shaw>Hoyer)

    Props to Will Sutton, Hall and Glenn. Our corners have been playing well throughout pre-season, but Sutton surprised me. He was disrupting the middle and looked like he was having fun. I’d like to see him replace Unrein when Eddie is back. Amos, HQJ, Hall, Glenn. Love those guys.

    But it was Jordan Howard’s coming out party. It was nothing he wasn’t doing behind scrub lines in pre-season though. Ditto Glenn & Hall. I lost count of the number of first downs he got us. If it wasn’t a FD, it was a yard short. What a weapon he is on 1st and 10. He’d be a great help to Cutty. He’s made for Cutty.

    Timu bak in Da House boy-eeeeeeeee!!

    • Johnnywad

      I’m no Hoyer fan but let’s not minimize the fact that he came out and did what three other quarterbacks have done this year including Aaron Rodgers and Andrew Luck. Can’t fault the guy for his opponent.

    • Big Mike

      All wins in the NFL are good.

    • Bender McLugh

      Timu seemed to have a good game, can’t wait to see Andrews stats on the D this week.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Timu seems good in run game, in pass coverage he is suspect

  • BearDown100393

    Before projecting KW’s stats how about projecting possible time out due to “he’s got an ankle”?

  • BearDown100393

    “Beat Lions In A Snoozer” – from the Twitter Guy watching golf instead

    • MB30SD

      Hahahaha, you’re on his assume about his beloved gaaalph.

      Good. Fuck golf.

    • Bender McLugh

      yeah I don’t get that statement. I thought it was entertaining, I didn’t snooze at all.

    • Big Mike

      Exactly. We need a new jefe ? or more accurately we need our old jefe back.

      • Scharfinator

        Perhaps AD is getting handed the reins over time?

  • Bender McLugh

    Bring back Robbie Gould. No reason not to.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      accept he sucks like Barth. bring in someone new.

      • Bender McLugh

        no way is he worse than Barf. No flippin way

        • Huge Bears Penis

          maybe not worse than Barth, but he is not better either. He was missing extra points!

          • Bender McLugh

            Practice?!??! We talkin’ PRACTICE. lolz

          • Huge Bears Penis

            All kickers do is practice kicking the ball extra points should be automatic.

          • Bender McLugh

            you know I don’t disagree

    • Pride cometh before the miss

  • Bender McLugh

    re: Fox’s Challenge of White’s catch – there’s no way the Bears booth had that angle, (from behind) that showed the tip of the ball touching the ground, before needing to decide to challenge or not. All other angles looked like White caught it on his leg. He gets a pass.

  • Big Mike

    Why in all that is blue and orange would you call this game a snoozer. The bears got off the snide with a back up QB and nearly half their defense out. We saw the O-line play it’s best game, we saw kiatkowsi and amos deliver some great hits. We saw 2 interceptions and the game wasn’t decided until the end with an onside kick recovery. We saw Jordan Howard emerge, we saw Hicks play well. I don’t get it.

    • BerwynBomber

      Really, at Da Cutler Blog you don’t know why Blogfather would find that win less than fulfilling?

      Surely, you jest …

      • Huge Bears Penis

        we dominated Time of Possession by almost 7 mins, Total yardage by 145 yards, and won the turnover battle yet we only scored 17 points

        • Yeah, games are less “exciting’ when the QB doesn’t throw INTs or gets strips sacked and must always lead furious comebacks in order to make up for it.

          Give me “snoozer” victories every sun, plz.

          Maybe Jeff can watch some Colts game for “excitement”. Or watch a ball sink into a hole.

          • BearDown100393

            “The Andrew Luck Invitational”

          • PaceBot 2000

            you’ve become a troll and it has saddened me. I never thought I would see it. With your clever handle you still can’t even admit that they watched the pile of shit that was the gameplans from games 1-3 and decided to make actual strategic changes. Holy shit man. Bad.

          • Yeah, I’m a troll cuz I want Hoyer starting.
            So anyone who wants Hoyer starting is a troll. That’s a lot of trolls.

            If Cutler returns and stops throwing INTs, taking unnecessary strip/sacks, I’ll be happy to have him start.

            Will that happen? Doubt it.

          • DaCoaches Mustache

            The O line blocked yesterday. That was the difference. If Cutty was in there the Bears score 30. Mark it, dude.

      • Big Mike

        Cutler’s better than Hoyer. But that doesn’t excuse jefe from dialing it in.

        • All things being equal, Cutler MIGHT be better than Hoyer.
          Maybe.

          But I think in THIS offense, and with THIS D, Hoyer might be the better option.

          It’s like in D. Peanut COULD play man, and did sometimes well, but he’s a cover-2 CB. Some Olinemen are man-maulers, others zone blockers, some S are in-box, others coverage.

          What I’m trying to say is, Hoyer is a better fit in the Gase/Birdcage O than Cutler.

          I think Cutler would excel more in a Norv Turner/Haley/Arians O that is aggressive and attacks vertically.

          The deep attacks will somewhat make up for the inevitable INTs and turnovers (See, Palmer).

          But in Gase/Birdcage smallball, I think Hoyer can execute the gameplan more efficiently. It plays to his strengths.

          There’s also something to be said for getting sacked less, protecting the ball, and completing passes to various targets, (often in stride).

          When they asked Hoyer the difference between this game and the other games, he “We just EXECUTED better”

          That means, in spite of my handle, Birdcage didn’t learn to split the atom in a week’s time.

          • BerwynBomber

            Said this a thousand times, but I have always felt maximum Cutty would be some version of Rivers or Luck: a high production/high turnover guy. You know, some 33 TD 18 INT 3900 yards guy. Closest he ever came to that was his ’08 year in DEN and our ghastly ’14 year.

            Gase semi-successfully turned him into a game manager last year, but I don’t think it’s Cutty natural fit as a QB.

          • willbest

            Sure because Hoyer is totally would have gone out there and said “Well you know Howard is a lot better than Langford and this week’s game plan was more suited to my strengths than last weeks and we gamed away from Massie because he is a pile of garbage”

            Look they did execute it well, and he desires the credit for that. But for the love of God, I am not even asking you to compare it to the Cutler games. Just look at the difference between Dallas and Detroit.

          • PaceBot 2000

            dude, it’s a lost cause. Butch has gone full fucking ruh-tard on us.

          • I think you, Will, Jeff, and a late Jay band-wagoner Irish, are too invested emotionally too actually see the games objectively.

            I was always a Cutler agnostic, so I didn’t care either way, as long as he helped the Bears.

            But just look at Hoyer’s stats from last year and compare them to Cutty’s (last year was arguably his most efficient year)

            http://www.nfl.com/player/brianhoyer/81294/careerstats

            You’re going to tell me that Cutler is way better than Hoyer?

            Hoyer’s career INT high is 13 INTs

            Cutler’s LOW is 11INTs (and he didn’t play 16 games in that season).

            That’s not even counting the strip/sacks.

            And if you wanna argue diff personnel, etc etc, just look at THIS year.

            You can honestly say the Cutler looked better than Hoyer?

            THAT too me is FULL METAL RETARD.

          • Big Mike

            I can’t disagree wholeheartedly, but Cutler’s a better QB, by a lot. But I don’t think a team should be built around a QB, much less one with peaks and valleys like Cutler. He’s not, nor will he ever be the face of the franchise.

            Birdcage still almost lost the game, not having Howard in on 4th and 1, not motioning, running behind a lead blocker or doing anything to help his players.

          • Sactowns#1

            Idk about “by a lot”. one things for sure, in that drive at the close of the second half Hoyer was struggling to sling the rock 30 yards, Cutty would have hit the endzone.

    • chitownproud85

      See: Brian Hoyer was the winning QB. Jeff no likey dat

    • SC Dave

      Golf, dude. It’s just *gripping*.

      • BearDown100393

        See above

      • Big Mike

        I like golf. I golf once or twice a week. I like the ryder cup. I watched parts of it. But the Bears won an actual NFL game.

  • Malice Halice

    That game was never a snoozer. Shit got even mo intense in the last few minutes.

  • Huge Bears Penis

    interesting stat line from the weekend – 14 carries, 27 yards, 1.9 average, and 0 TDs. Any guess which “amazing” RB had this stat line?

    • Scharfinator

      Gurley? He’s been struggling

    • That’s Forte. And didn’t he get hurt too?
      I know Forte sucked cuz I had him on FF

      • Huge Bears Penis

        he has a knee.

  • BearDown100393

    Looks to be about 25 maybe 26 foot putt on the back of the green……. Ohhhh we can feel the tension out here, it is really intense….. Reed bends down to get another look see at the lie…. Appears to break left to right….. That is Reed’s left to right not the viewers so the people back home do not get confused…. Folks it does not get any better than this so don’t flip the channel…. If Reed gets this putt it will save par and totally change the outlook of the leader board from here on in…. A man in the gallery takes a camera pic now…. That is so distracting…. Reed backs off to reset. Oh man the tension is unbearable. We’re staying with this action until the putt is completed….. A leaf blows past the pin. Reed again backs off…. You can never really focus too much in tournament such as this one….. The gallery’s excitement is infectious….. Reed steps up to the ball…. And now the putt… Breaking… breaking…. breaking…. left…… right…… left? Missed?

  • Huge Bears Penis

    I forgot what victory Mondays feel like!!! I could get used to this.

  • Repost from WK 3 Across the Middle Septt 21st

    ———————

    The Bright side: Hoyer

    The major problem with Hoyer is he folds like a cheap tent in playoff type moments.

    Luckily for us, we don’t have that problem!

    The reason the Texans dumped him was because he couldn’t get over that hump.Sorta the same reason the Broncos replaced Plummer with Cutler (oh, the irony). Hoyer is like the John Fox of QBs: he’ll get you to respectability, but he won’t win the big games.

    But like I said, we don’t have to worry about “big games” any time soon, so we likely won’t see horrible Hoyer
    (Granted, Bird Cage is the wildcard).

    Things we will see from Hoyer.

    1. Less sacks. He’ll get the ball out quicker. He’s a rhythm passer, and once he finds his groove, the O rolls. We got a glimpse of this in the last game when he completed 9 in a row. One might counter, “oh, they were in prevent” – well, how many times were teams in prevent for Cutty, and I don’t recall him hitting 9 in a row.

    Hoyer also does what normal QBs do and climbs the pocket. So, when those DEs swing around, he’ll do what all immobile QBs do and simply take a step up while looking down field (instead of just staying in the danger zone, or running right into the rusher). This also should lead to less patented Cutty strip sacks we all see coming from a mile away.

    2. Accuracy. Already stated how he can hit ppl, and he can hit them IN STRIDE. This might greatly help out guys like White with speed or Royal who’s a superb route runner in gaining YAC. Should also help out Miller since throwing to TEs between all the bodies has always been a risky proposition with Cutler.

    3. Spread the ball more. Hoyer won’t just zero in on Alshon. Sorry FF owners, he just got downgraded. Part of getting rid of the ball fast is going through progressions in a quick manner. Alshon’s not open, he’s not just gonna wait for him to get free. He’ll go on to read #2, #3…dump off. Yes, remember those? They exist!

    Things we wont’ see from Hoyer. Those 3rd down scrambles we frequently got from Jay. Those long 50 yd bombs. Maybe some fades or smaller window “wow” throws in the endzone (Hoyer simply doesn’t have that arm). If we get behind, he seems programmed not to let it fly, so that might frustrate some meatballs. Hoyer also has some uncanny penchant of throwing pick-6s. It’s really remarkable in some chaos theory sort of way, but when he does throw INTs, they always seem to be run back for TDs.

    But given the other stuff he does bring to the table, I say not that bad of a tradeoff. Hoyer also might be smarter than Cutler, which means he’ll be able to diagnose blitzes and call correct audibles to maximize the pass and run, but I’m still a little unsure of that.

    The real wild card is Bird Cage who’s offense seems even worse than Tice’s.

    All in all, bold prediction:

    Under Hoyer, the Offense will look MUCH better than with Cutler, and fans will begin grumbling, “Trade Cutler”.
    Irish will declare Hoyer king of the universe, and revisit the McCown what-if alternate reality while Waffle buys a Hoyer voodo-doll and begins pricking his arms with needles dowsed in tradewind.

    …………………
    I never in my life thought I’d be looking forward to seeing Hoyer start in a Bears uni, but after the shit show of the first two games, it has come to that.

    I also hope to god that BirdCage begins using Howard more, while creating an actual game plan to attack weaknesses.

    I actually think Miller might benefit most from Hoyer going forward.

    • And if you read a few comments down, you’ll read Irish still pining for Fitz.

      Fitz since then has thrown NINE INTs.

      While Hoyer has thrown for 600 yds, 4Tds and ZERO Ints for like 1/3 the price $

      • AlbertInTucson

        “No INTs” is not to be undervalued.

        That’s a big part of Wentz and Prescott’s success to date.

        On the other hand, Pickles didn’t turn the ball over in Seattle last season in the infamous “9 possessions, 9 punts” game.

  • Sactowns#1

    Who the hell are the Chiefs? I started them in FF, last week they got 30+ points with 6 (SIX!) interceptions and two fumble recoveries. This week their defense looked like swiss cheese.

    • BearDown100393

      They are who we thought they are

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Fitzpatrick vs Roethlisberger

    • Chiefs are like that girl in Seinfeld who looks like a model in one type of lighting, then looks like a ghoul in other type of lighting.

    • BerwynBomber

      Same question could be asked of the Steelers. They were blown out by Philly the previous week.

      • willbest

        Maybe Pederson is the second coming of Darth Hoodie

        • BerwynBomber

          I doubt that but he may be a damn good HC regardless.

          One of the interesting things pointed out on TV yesterday that with all the young, first-time starting QBs this year — Wentz, Prescott, Semien, etc — they all have ex-pro QBs as HCs. Well, except Garrappolo with Hoodie. Hoodie’s often the exception.

          • And Harbs fit that mold too.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yep, made Kaep look like a Pro Bowler for a few years. Even salvaged Alex Smith’s career too.

    • AlbertInTucson

      It’s the NFL. Don’t forget what the Steelers looked like LAST week.

  • Also, I haven’t watched, but I heard the U.S. beat those Eurotrash in the Ryder Cup.

    U.S.A! U.S.A!

    • Huge Bears Penis

      ‘MERICA!!!!

    • BearDown100393

      He was watching a hot dog eating contest all weekend?

  • God, I cringe to think where our D would be without Freeman.

    I gave him shit about his pass-coverage, but he seems better now. He’s no Luke (who is?), but guy rides the hip of TE/RB, and just is omnipresent. His intelligence, toughness and instincts are superb.

    • Bender McLugh

      Freeman has been outstanding, all over the place

  • BerwynBomber

    The elephant in the room this Monday.

    Fox will hand the ball back to Cutler as soon as the latter is healthy. As he probably should. But the leash will be tighter. If Cutty shits the bed again, we will see Hoyer again before the season is over — injury or no injury. The coaching staff knows what they have in Hoyer. His ceiling is obviously not Cutler’s, but he’s not Pickles either.

    Anyway, a Cutty vs. Luck duel next Sun could be fun. It’s a winnable roadie.

    • BearDown100393

      Bears will win.
      13-3.

  • willbest

    Lost in all the QB talk is the fact that this was a victory by total defensive domination against one of the better offenses in the league. 8 points. 2 field goals and a 2pt conversion that should never have taken place but for the total ineptitude of our ST unit and a missed block in the back by the refs.

    • Bender McLugh

      SWAGGER. I saw it.

    • Bender McLugh

      that “missed” block in the back was egregious, ref standing right there.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The fact that it was the KEY “block’ is was elevates it to “egregious”.

        It wasn’t like it was behind he play and didn’t effect it any.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, some of us tossed them praise yesterday. Well-deserved.

      But I’m a little suspicious of DET’s O — and that not to detract from the D’s performance — but more your statement as one of the better O’s in the league. Thus far, they’re one dimensional. They have no rushing game.

      • The guy I was worried about got hurt (Washington).

        I think that was a big blow to their run game.

        Zenner (white chocolate) stepped in, but he’s not nearly as explosive.

        And Theo Riddick and the rest are borderline JAGs, IMO.

        That inj helped us a lot, methinks.

        • BerwynBomber

          Riddick is a very good 3rd down/receiving back. But as a primary rusher he is dogshit. I think he may be averaging less than 3 YPC for the season.

          If the Lions were smart, and Washington is shelved for a few weeks, they would start Zenner and bring Riddick in for obvious passing downs, which is his natural role.

      • willbest

        The comment was made that they were the 6th highest scoring offense during the game. Granted they haven’t played against top defenses, but then we don’t qualify as one of those. But the point about their 1 dimension is valid, as they have lost RBs like us, though unlike us they didn’t bury their best one on the depth chart

    • BearDown100393

      Defense is so boring.
      Unlike golf.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Luck could have run for the first down on that last 4th & short for the Colts yesterday but dumped the ball off to his not-exactly-wide-open receiver instead. It was batted down. Game over.

    Just a poor QB decision or that little voice saying “don’t take a hit’.

    Cam tried to hot dog his 2 point conversion run and got lit up and knocked out of the game.

    For a smart gut, that was pretty stupid.

    • Young QBs seeing Luck and Cam getting treated like a rag doll might want to start becoming pocket passers again.

      Yes, those running TDs are ESPN highlights, but so are the bonecrunching hits they absorb every game.

      Meanwhile, guys like Brady and Breeze are barely being touched protected by the refs in the pocket.

      • MB30SD

        That kid from Louisville ain’t gonna be an nfl about.

        And rivers!!!

        • haha I don’t know if the refs protect Rivers as much cuz he’s such a shit talker.

          But Brees and Brady are relatively healthy nearing 40.

          Cam and Luck are going to have to be wheeled to field at 40.

  • Bender McLugh

    HAHAH I just read that Robbie Gould was the picture on the game tickets. He’s comin back!

    • I didn’t understand the Gould situation.

      So, POX came into the season assuming Gould would revert back to form. Then, he missed a few kicks, and they were like “oh oh”.

      Almost literally the last day of pre-season, they cut him, and bring in some Saints cast off that they know can’t make it from 50 and beyond.

      What I don’t understand is, why didn’t they bring in competition from the start? And if you’re going to bring in competition, bring in Kicker who can make 50 yders for crying out loud.

      The fact they went with Barth also signals to me that they KNEW their Defense was shit from the start.

      They didn’t want to take the chance of missing long FGs and giving the D a short field to defend cuz they knew beforehand the D couldn’t stop anyone.

      Must I say it again…should’ve drafted a K!

      • BerwynBomber

        Money wasn’t it? I mean beside the fact that Robbie had slipped …

        • No, couldn’t be. We were well under the cap.

          They thought they could find someone equal or better for cheap, which is true, but the scary part is they believed that guy was Barth.

          That means their “scouting” system is somehow lacking.

          However, no other team has picked up Gould. That says something too.

          • willbest

            Well you can’t predict Sitton and you didn’t have to extend Long, but if we still had Slauson and Gould we would only have about 2 mil in cap left for in season IR replacements.

          • Yeah, but teams can always restructure contracts. I think teams usu carry like $5M or so in “emergency” money. That really is like one small restructure.
            That whole on the fly Gould decision is a huge red flag, like letting Slauson go.

          • Bender McLugh

            this being true, it’s the only point that makes sense to me

          • Scharfinator

            I remember reading about some team kicking the tires on Gould, but he wanted too much.

          • willbest

            I wouldn’t pay more than vet min for Robbie. I might give him some sort of incentives for hitting targets though.

      • Sactowns#1

        The answer to all of the personnel questions can be found in Billy Beane and the Oakland A’s. Pace is constantly trying to be the smartest guy in the room, finding “value”. It can make a GM look brilliant while simultaneously fielding an inferior team. It’s amazing!

      • BearDown100393

        Preseason was “meaningless”.

        Except to Robbie Gould.

  • willbest

    The only thing that doesn’t make sense about the Robbie thing is the fact that Barth is still on the roster. I get Barth is bad for vet min and Robbie was bad for 3 times that, but Barth isn’t and never was a long term solution there. We could have been on kicker #2 right now in our search for the next Gould

    • SC Dave

      But that would make sense, Will

    • Bears-4-Ever

      Band-Aid. That’s it…we’ll have a good kicker next year…whoever that may be. We couldn’t Pay Gould for the performance he was giving. Barth was not the long-term answer.

    • BearDown100393

      Barth makes 50% of his FGA this season. But Robbie’s 84.6% from last season was worse. POX logic at play. Probably the same mentality that resulted toward cutting Matt Slauson.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’d give him a semi-pass on yesterday’s miss. That was a 50 yarder at Soldier. Robbie hasn’t been money on those a few years himself. The doink against Philly was another matter.

        • CanadaBear

          Actually Robbie was very good the last few years from 50+. It was the easier misses that were the problem. That and he would always listen to MB about not kicking into the end zone.

  • willbest

    Turns out the guy in the gorilla suit that ran around soldier field yesterday in the all lives matter shirt is black. Does that make him self hating?

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Until I see a copy of the arrest report and a transcript of the arraignment, I don’t believe he was actually arrested. He was prolly the ball boy.

    • PaceBot 2000

      I….did not see that coming.

    • MB30SD

      DOOOOOOONNNN’TTTTT CAAAAAAAARRRRRREEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Sauron’s right eyeball
    • Bender McLugh

      Hoyer with da game ball

    • BearDown100393

      Grades are so boring compared to golf & soccer.

    • BerwynBomber

      Callahan with the second highest Defensive grade after Freeman. He has been fantastic as a nickel/slot corner. Really have something there with him in that role.

      • he played outside yesterday. LeBlanc was the slot guy.

        • BerwynBomber

          Callahan is playing more boundary than Glenn and Porter?

          • the starters yesterday were Callahan and Porter, with LeBlanc coming in to play the slot in nickel.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Bears Win!!!

    Hell yeah! I’ll take it!

    Bear Down! 🙂

  • BearDown100393

    Soccer?

  • MB30SD
    • BearDown100393

      Batman now drives a Chevy.

      • MB30SD

        and soon me! that thing’s pimp

        • Sactowns#1

          I was thinking seven feet wide was pretty huge and then I looked up the width of my buddies dodge dually, 8ft wide. So I guess it’s not that bad.

    • Scharfinator

      Neigh? Like a horse?

      • MB30SD

        fucking spelling natzi

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Lol.

    • EnderWiggin

      Not a fan of the glossy camouflage: its just not practical. If the camo was all matte throughout, like on the door, you could park it right outside your blind.
      Edit: love the lights on it though.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Bronco fan eh?

      Horse mouth be ridin that white charger.

  • Anyone have the 411 on Floyd?

    I heard he bruised something or other.

    I feel like it was pretext to bench him for Acho.

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    If the Bears blocked when Cutler was playing the O would have looked very similar to the way they did yesterday. That was the entire difference. The first 3 games, the O line did not block anyone. The coaches know this. Cutty will be back in when he’s healthy, and he will look better. Especially when he plays against shitty defenses with their best pass rusher hurt.

    • are you sure the coaches know this?

      “Bears coach John Fox is still describing Jay Cutler’s thumb injury as “day to day.”

      But after the day Brian Hoyer just had, it doesn’t sound like the veteran coach is inclined to make a change at quarterback.

      “Anybody’s that performing well, I don’t think we’re going to be likely to change,” Fox told reporters Monday.

      That’s an eye-opener for a number of reasons, not the least of which is Fox usually goes out of his way to avoid saying anything interesting
      ever.”

      http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/10/03/john-fox-refuses-to-hand-job-back-to-jay-cutler-when-healthy/

      Fox is either trying to motivate Cutler (to not play like dogshit), or he actually means it.

      Either way, not a very strong endorsement of Cutty.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Orrrr…Fox knows Cutty could use more rest and he’s building Hoyer up.

        • But why say anything at all in front of the media then?

          Fox goes out of his way to be secretive. Hoyer knew his role when he was brought in.

          That wouldn’t make much sense to me.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Boys will be boys. I think Fox was ecstatic he didn’t have to face the media at 0-4. Must wins do that to coaches.

    • the playcalling also changed significantly. More running, more short stuff, more moving the pocket. All things that should be staples of every offense involving Cutler. (same shit happened with McCown. They ran the offense through Forte when he was in. It’s infuriating how guys getting paid millions of dollars can’t call plays intelligently until forced to by injury).

      But then you get to Hoyer’s limit. Once the short stuff works and the defense creeps up, he can’t threaten over the top. That’s why he’s a good backup and not a starter. He’s good enough to not lose you the game, and you hope the rest of the team plays well enough to win it. He doesn’t make any plays that make you say “wow, that was a great play,” he just fairly consistently makes the simple ones.

      Notice that, despite Hoyer’s gaudy stats the last two weeks, the offense still has performed very poorly. Did nothing against DAL until the game was over, scored 17 points against a defense giving up over 28 per game.

      That’s because this offense is too undisciplined to consistently do 10+ play drives well, which is what you typically need with Hoyer. And big plays with Hoyer under center are ones where a guy runs after the catch.

      They had 1 10 play TD drive yesterday and one big play where Royal was uncovered 15 yards downfield (and Hoyer almost overthrew him) and then ran 45 more. That was their long scoring drives. Against arguably the worst defense in the NFL.

      They won because the defense held Detroit to 2 FGs. Not because Hoyer compiled a bunch of empty stats in what was literally the perfect situation for a QB (strong run game, great pass protection, shaky secondary). The offense-despite Howard’s big day-was actually bad yesterday. 17 points against a shit defense is not acceptable.

      • This is just about the best summation I can come up with of Hoyer the last two weeks:

        He’s shown why he’s one of the best backups in the NFL. He’s also shown his limitations that make him a backup, not a starter.

        • and it’s worth noting that both Hoyer and Cutler are what they are at this point. Cutler is an average starting QB. He’s been that for a decade. Hoyer is a good backup/bad starter. He’s been that for 8 years.

          Neither is changing their stripes at 30+, so play the better player, which is obviously Cutler. This isn’t a DAL situation where they have a young guy who might be something. We know what Hoyer is.

          • and if Hoyer’s performance this year means they want to keep him around next year as a bridge, trade Cutler, and draft a QB high, that’s fine. Cutler still plays this year, because he’s a better QB.

          • MB30SD

            strip-sacks and all

          • willbest

            No doubt, its more entertaining when the ground causes the fumble.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agree with your assessment about Cutler and Hoyer. Agree with you about who should be starting.

            But I don’t buy for an instant you would be belittling this win or the QB play if Cutler had played similarly. Not for a moment.

          • willbest

            I know for damn sure I wouldn’t be crowing about a 17 point performance for Cutler as vindication for why starting Hoyer was nonsense. And it certainly wouldn’t quell Butch’s hatred. I would bet money in that alternate universe Butch is going on about how much Howard, and the o-line, and Birdcage mattered in limiting Cutler’s mistakes.

          • BerwynBomber

            If Cutty had Hoyer’s #s and we won you would be crowing. Wouldn’t matter if we scored 10 points.

            Sorry, not buying you guys for a second. You can belittle Hoyer’s performance all you want but let’s not pretend what is ultimately behind it.

          • willbest

            No because I have different expectations for Cutler.

          • BerwynBomber

            Which are what, exactly?

          • willbest

            24 ppg

          • BerwynBomber

            Oh ok. So no matter how well Cutty plays, and even if we win, you will belittle Cutty’s play if we don’t score 24?

            Uh-huh. I believe you. Sure.

          • willbest

            You apparently think one can only either crow or belittle and there is nothing inbetween. Everything that I said about the across the board improvement in offensive play in week 4 would be equally valid if Cutler was in there. The OC called a much better game, the line blocked better, and the RB threat was real.

            It would be everybody, including Cutler did better, but they still need to do more if they want to be considered average

          • BerwynBomber

            No, what I think is that anyone who is fan of the team would merely say well played, Brian Hoyer, and leave it at that. Rather than feel so threatened or insecure about his performance.

          • willbest

            Oh, I thought this was a blog where people talk about strengths and weaknesses of the Bears in addition to celebrating Ws

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, a lot of times it’s a place to celebrate and make excuses for Jay Cutler. But yes, it is also what you said. And one of the strengths yesterday was Brian Hoyer. I suspect he’ll shit the bed next time he is asked to start, but yesterday he played very well.

          • willbest

            Fair enough. The league average the last few years has been 22-23 ppg. If Hoyer was a strength, what aspect of the offense limited us to only 17 points when the average against the Lions was over 25, and the league historically averages 22-23 ppg each season. Offensive penalties might but their were only 4 of those and only 1 of them killed a drive.

          • I don’t hate Cutler.

            I just want him gone for a 1st or two 2nds, and all-in on a new QB next draft, using Hoyer as a suitable “bridge” (MEANING, until said franchise QB is ready).

            If we’re not planning on drafting a new franchise QB, then we’re stuck with Cutler. The rest is moot.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        When you have a big gun, you’re supposed to use it. Lovie Ball.

        • MB30SD

          Strip-Sack Central

          …also the name of my new garage band

        • but you don’t use it as the ONLY tool in your arsenal.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I know, I agree.

      • chitownproud85

        So we either score two touchdowns a game via two big plays or two touch downs a game via one big play and one sustained drive.

        Am I doing this right, yet? Either way, I dont think its making much of a difference in whether we win or lose. The defense either stifles the other guys, or we lose. Thats what this year is looking like.

      • Malice Halice

        Way to look a gift horse in the mouth. I mean damn man just da W. I do agree with u tho

        • MB30SD

          did you just contradict yourself, like omg, twiiiice?!?

      • Hoyer doesn’t have an arm, but that ball he dropped into White on the go route(which Tough catch) looked good enough to stretch defenses.

        And whether we like it or not, this offense is predicated in SHORT passes. I think we can all admit that Hoyer is better than Cutler at this. I predicted Miller would get more involved because of this, and it came true because Hoyer seems to know and execute this O better.

        If we were running Arian’s system, then Cutty would be a better fit since it’s more of a vertical attacking system with more jump balls.

        You’re right about this offense (and defense) being undisciplined. The offsides and holding penalties are killing drives. Add a drop and QB mistake here and there, and it leads to 17 points.

        But yesterday I think we finally had a 5min drive. First of the season.

        And all Hoyer stats came when the game was on the line. It was always close.

        Biggest stat of all. ZERO ints.

        He throws an INT yesterday (esp in the redzon), we likely lose.

  • BerwynBomber

    Concussion aside, the hit on Newton yesterday was pretty funny. He was completely loafing and got lit up. A little reminiscent of the U of Tenn WR who did the same on Sat and lost the ball before he crossed the goal line.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD
    • SC Dave

      Normal Foxspeak?

      • MB30SD

        maybe. makes sense to me. put hoyer out there and see what he can do sunday. If he starts shitting the bed and cutty is ready, swap it out.

        • SC Dave

          Especially if Cutler cant throw the ball normally.

        • It’s like when everyone was screaming for Howard.

          It was OBVIOUS Howard was running better. Then of course, Fox decides more Langford.

          Took an inj to finally make them see the light.

          (yes, in this analogy, Cutler is Langford. Ride the hot hand. Duh)

  • MB30SD
  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Big day for Princeton soccer? Lol. Jeff’s the Renaissance man of sports.

    • BearDown100393

      Tomorrow – Billiards

      • MB30SD

        badminton is tomorrow dude, snooker is thursday

        • BearDown100393

          Got it.

  • Another way to look at this: CHI scored 17 points against a DET D that came in giving up over 28 per game.

    They gave up 30+ to IND and GB, and 16 to TEN. TEN is currently tied with CHI for fewest PPG scored.

    So under Hoyer, the offense performed on par with the other worst O in the NFL.

    THIS is what we’re excited about? Not the D that just held one of the highest scoring offenses in the NFL to 6 points with a bunch of young guys making key plays?

    • MB30SD

      Both?

      • SC Dave

        I can’t understand the resentment of the fact that Brian Hoyer was QB and we won the game. It’s odd.

        • Jeff summed it up best “boring”.

          Cutler is often compared to that hot crazy chick a schmuck can’t quit.

          The highs are high, the lows end up riding bikes and throwing 4INTs to same CB…

          “Exciting”

    • chitownproud85

      …I think most of us are excited because we won…which we havent done very often lately. I could be getting ahead of myself, though…

      • BerwynBomber

        But Jay Cutler didn’t lead the win. So the win only counts for players not named Brian Hoyer. Well, and Connor Barth.

        Now let’s talk golf or Princeton soccer.

        • MB30SD

          both?

        • willbest

          I am willing to throw the entire special teams off the win bus.

  • MB30SD

    little break in the fb talk.

    The third one down is so fucked up, but it almost made me spit my drink onto my computer

    http://www.craveonline.com/mandatory/1132143-super-harsh-internet-roasts-will-feeling-terrible-laughing

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “People may be surprised but I get this. If Hoyer plays efficiently Sunday again and they win, why change? Jay ain’t going anywhere.”

    Cutler should still start. As JW said below it’s not Romo/Dak situation, but not just because of the “future”, also because Romo is dealing with a career-threatening injury and Cutty should be back any day.

    If Jay was out for five games and we went 4-1 or 5-0 with Hoyer, then keeping Hoyer in would make more sense. After a 1-1 performance and two games? Not as much.

    • BearDown100393

      Wait a second, who suggested a sprained thumb isn’t career threatening?

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I would say it’s a little less devastating than a couple of broken backs.

        • PaceBot 2000

          a sprain is ligament damage. A professional quarterback needs thumb ligaments that work just like a corner can’t have knee ligaments that are all jacked up or else he just becomes a really in shape Rental Car asst manager.

          • willbest

            Maybe for 6 months. Athletes have issues keeping the weight off when they are no longer burning 6000 calories a day.

  • TBC

    Jeff Hughes waving the white flag at long last and Jonathan Wood picking up the Cutler baton. What a time to be alive.

    • BerwynBomber

      Well, our victory should give you pause, Cheesy. We handled DET easier than you. Moreover, our D looked world’s more impressive (than yours) in doing so.

      • BearDown100393

        “Our D”
        Mostly second stringers due to injury.

        • BerwynBomber

          The Cheese’s was banged up too if you’re playing that card. All NFCN teams are fighting an inordinate amount of injuries.

          • BearDown100393

            I’ll play any card required to degrade the Cheese.

        • willbest

          There isn’t a lot of difference between our second stringers and our first stringers. They weren’t exactly backing up Norman.

  • Lol on a lighter note, here are two songs for all you who drafted Alshon.

    They’re both entitled “Ham/strings of Sadness” to the tune of Simon and Garfunkel’s “Sound of silence”

    http://www.harrisfootball.com/mixtapes/

    • willbest

      Hopkins owners shouldn’t be throwing stones as Jeffery owners. He has been crap for 3 of 4 weeks.

      • Fuller is mooching off the double coverage Hopkins demands.

        Didn’t think Fuller would be that effective so soon. Might be in ROY convo.

  • BearDown100393

    JFC the team name for Swansea City is Swans. Yeah, the Swans. Clap Clap Clap. This is more exciting and important than the Bears. The Swans. And Bob Bradley. And they suck. http://www.swanseacity.net/fixtures-results/league-table/

  • BuddhaJoe

    Goddam is this board turning into the Tribune board? They finally win a game and almost every comment over there was about hating Cutler even though he didn’t even fucking play. Now we’re reduced to talking about keeping Hoyer the starter. THAT fucking Brian Hoyer? My head hurts now. He sucks, that stat line is fool’s gold.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      I got to agree. If we are going to argue about anything we should argue about why it took 4 games to put together a competent offensive game plan!

      • SC Dave

        Maybe they thought the line, yet another new configuration this season, was not ready.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Burn some incense joe.

      • BuddhaJoe

        Nah, my fiance’s cooking chili and that smells way better. Later maybe.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Now ya talkin.

      • SC Dave

        Or some ganja…

    • BerwynBomber

      Who’s talking about keeping Hoyer as the starter? One person on the blog?

      • BuddhaJoe

        Maybe only one or two here, I don’t know why I read that shit on the Trib. Like a train wreck of derp over there.

    • Malice Halice

      Fuck Hoyer… and fuck by all means raw dog Barth. I mean we got rid of some Gould for Barth. Shit don’t even sound right.

      • SC Dave

        As of today, Brian Hoyer QBed our only win of the season. So there’s that.

    • EnderWiggin

      Our WRs/TEs should get props for playing awesome. Most all throws were behind the receivers, but White, Cameron, and Royal seemed to be ready for it. They played admirably, twisting and contorting themselves – while they are used to laser beams hitting them in exactly the right windows.
      And our poor TE.. Once to Miller and once to Paulson (that I remember), Hoyer got the ball to them in perfect stride, of course once they make a football move, they take a mack-truck-shoulder shot from Whitehead. Cutty never makes those throws on 1st/2nd down.

  • Guess we’re not finding out about White anytime soon.

    Bears coach John Fox declined to update Kevin White’s (ankle) status on Monday.

    We will have to wait for someone else to leak White’s MRI results. Fox, 7-13 as Bears coach, is understandably trying to hold ontohis #CompetitiveAdvantage. Chicago’s first injury report will be released Wednesday. We’re sure it will be illuminating. – Roto

    • BearDown100393

      Bears medical sawed off his foot and fitted him with a peg. He is currently listed as questionable.

  • BuddhaJoe

    So is there anybody available to replace Barth? I don’t want Robbie back since he seems done but Barth sucks bad too. Hell I’d try out that Kickalicious guy with the Youtube video at this point.

    • Johnnywad

      My neighbor’s cat is always on standby. He would be an upgrade. He was nearly called up a few years back to replace JWebb. The cat is versatile.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog Hoyer/Cutler conversation is sort of pointless at this juncture. Hoyer has probably 2 more starts before Cutler could return to action”

    Cutty’s going to miss five games due to a sprained thumb?

    • willbest

      He was listed as limited on Thursday’s practice last week, and I don’t recall seeing the thumb in a brace at the game on Sunday.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I think he’ll go at Indy. Would be surprised if he didn’t.

    • BearDown100393

      Hell, Lindsay Lohan lost a frigging finger and immediately went back to doing what she does professionally – drugs.

    • Johnnywad

      You’ve never sprained a thumb have you Bomber?

      • BerwynBomber

        I have jwad. Hell I’ve even sprained an ankle while playing hoops with some rugby guys … long story.

        Why do you ask that? Why personal?

        • Johnnywad

          Not an attack at all. I just assumed you haven’t given your surprise at his recovery time. It would be damn near impossible to throw a football with a sprained thumb. It hurts like a son of a bitch and is pretty key in delivering the ball well. As with all sprains, stretch it back out before it’s ready, and you’re back to square one. I am not surprised at all he missed the game yesterday. Or perhaps even next week. I guess it would depend on the severity of the initial injury.

          Cutty isn’t one to milk it. He tried to play with it post injury which must have been a mother fucker.

          • BerwynBomber

            Of course it hurts like a mother. All sprains do. I would just be surprised he would miss five games because of it as Blogfather suggested he might miss.

            Hell, I was slightly surprised he didn’t play against DET. Seems an inordinate time to miss. We’ll see.

          • SC Dave

            I disagree. He needs to let it fix. What was stupid was playing with it when he should not have – hurts the team not only that game, but whatever “extra” he misses thereafter.

            On the other hand, if we win the games with Hoyer, it’s all good.

          • BerwynBomber

            I think we have seen the best of Hoyer. If he starts again, I hope I’m mistaken. But … well …

          • Johnnywad

            I don’t think he’ll miss five games. That’s a hefty speculation by Jeff. He’s missed two. Three more would be a stretch. Although they do have three games in an 11 day stretch here beginning 10/9 followed by an 11 day break. Maybe he’s thinking get through that fray and come back 10/31? Still seems like a long time. That said, it’s only been two weeks since the sprain. That doesn’t seem like a lot to me given the strain the joint goes through.

  • This Vikes-Gmen game should be interesting.

    Very curious to see if ODB can get loose against that D.
    Which Eli will we see? The INT machine, or the NE clutch one?
    Is McKinnon the real deal? He ran a 4.37!
    Will Bradford meltdown on national tv?

    Supposedly, that Vike D is comparable to last year Donk’s D.

  • BearDown100393

    So uhh…. who wants to blow that horn after Randy Moss?

  • Macadoo looks like he should be on To Catch a Predator

  • willbest

    Well played Big ben. You took all the joy out of starting Matt Ryan over you. 36 points to his 37… sitting on my bench. way to troll.

  • BearDown100393

    Giants special teams gift wrap 6 to the Queens. This might already be over.

  • Through first quarter of season, Eddie Royal is the Bears MVP. – Jeff

    Mmmm. Maybe Freeman.

    • BearDown100393

      Defense is boring though.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Did anyone really deserve MVP status in the first 3 losses? Hmm.

    • willbest

      Jeff’s comment was retarded. Its not even obvious he is the offensive MVP through the first quarter.

      Royal is 18 on 22 for 241 and 2 TDs
      Jeffery is 17 on 25 for 317
      Miller is 18 on 21 for 156 and 3 TDs
      White is 19 on 36 for 187 (and 1 run for 9)

      So he isn’t appreciably better than Jeffery or Miller… BUT!!!

      Howard 9 on 12 for 77, 35 for 178 on the ground 255 from scrimmage in 1.5 games

      • Jeff’s probably factoring in his returns too, I’m guessing.

        • willbest

          I suppose that is true, he did return one for points to give people that watched that Dallas trainwreck past half time something to cheer about

          • BerwynBomber

            His return was in the PHI game not DAL

          • willbest

            I stand corrected. Though that game was a trainwreck too.

  • Linvel Jospeh.

    Another guy I wanted. He came via Gmen I think.

    Cost a lot though.

    • EnderWiggin

      We could’ve afforded him.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Bear Fact: Bears love to hang out in tree’s. Who knew this?

    • EnderWiggin

      Don’t try to outrun one of the Bears; it’ll catch you, knock
      you down, and eat you. Of course, you could run up a tree. In that case
      you’ll get a nice view before it knocks the tree down and eats you.

      Anyone? Doubt it.

      • willbest

        I yelled at a black bear once to get out of my camp, he turned and left.

      • BearDown100393

        Cowbell

  • Interesting.

    Gmen now going with 3 HB in backfield to counter the double A gap threat.

  • BearDown100393

    Bradford… Hoyer… Bradford… Hoyer

  • BearDown100393

    Captain Munnerlyn????

    • willbest

      Love that name

      • BearDown100393

        Just so cool

  • BerwynBomber

    Fuck, MIN might be good for a long time …

    • willbest

      Defenses are fickle. Carolina is a mess. Seattle is tough but they were only dominant 1 year. Even the Donks have taken a step back, which is actually rather impressive considering they lost a lot in FA

      • BerwynBomber

        True but I trust Zimmer more than Chico …

      • BearDown100393

        As for Carolina, Newton has not lived down SB. And he might not ever.

  • willbest
  • That throw and catch are essentially unstoppable barring some amazing coverage play.

  • I’m a little surprised at the up-tempo Vike’s O.

    Thought they were an I-formation grind it out type of team.

    Since AP is down, and Bradford is in, they’re much more spread.

  • BearDown100393

    ODB just bumped the official.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I would have flagged him and run him for charging into Rhodes when he was clearly out of bounds after making that catch.

      • BearDown100393

        He should be bounced just for that haircut.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Think ODB lasts all game?

    • BearDown100393

      The guy is a nutcase.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The politically correct term would be “Emotionally Disturbed.”

        Fortunately we eschew political correctness around these parts so, “Nutcase” is perfectly acceptable.

        • BearDown100393

          Earlier, I already used the term “full retard”.

          • willbest

            You are allowed to use full retard because a White man playing a black man scolding a white man has reclaimed it from the offensive list.

          • BearDown100393

            And I thank Robert Downey Jr.

          • AlbertInTucson

            How about “Wack Job”?

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Retard”. Even MORE politically incorrect!

          • EnderWiggin

            I ham we Todd did.
            I ham sofa king we Todd did.

        • Over here in L.A. we have extreme midget wreslting.

          Not little ppl wrestling, MIDGET wrestling.

          http://www.ticketmaster.com/Extreme-Midget-Wrestling-tickets/artist/1571440

  • AlbertInTucson

    The Giants spent all week making excuses for ODB and he comes right out on MNF and makes a solid case for “Nutjob”.

    • BearDown100393

      Borderline Personality Disorder vs Full Retard? Discuss.

  • BearDown100393

    “…. Eli hasn’t run the football in 6 years…” – Gruden rant. LOL.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Stephan A.Smiff commentaty at half time?

    This is me, clicking away as soon as I seen is face.

    • BearDown100393

      He was insulted that Tom Brady one day would age and no longer be a NFL quarterback.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Laquon Treadwell.

    Remember, in preseason, when he was the NFL-Ready receiver to complement Diggs?

    Now he rides the pine
    in favor of a walk-on.

    • Rudy style.

      It would be like Braverman starting instead of White.

      Wait, White’s gonna miss games and Braverman get promoted?

      Oh noees

      • Huge Bears Penis

        FUTURE HOFer BRAVERMAN!!!!!

        • AlbertInTucson

          The used to be a great deli in Chicago called BRAVERMAN’S.

        • Johnnywad

          WMU cracked the top 25 yesterday for the first time in school history. They’re undefeated. All since Braverman left. Coincidence? I think not. Had to get that unlucky little bastard out of there so they could win a game or two.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            HATER!

  • AlbertInTucson

    Click.

  • AlbertInTucson

    OK.

    Clicked back.

    No Stephan A.

    Timed it right.

    • Brief rant about how Brady is going to be extra motivated.

      yawn.

      You want some real fireworks, google Stephan A + Cutler

  • AlbertInTucson

    Nice throw.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Upon further review, Rhodes SHOULD have been flagged for smacking ODB out of bounds in the first half.

    • BearDown100393

      Gould a Viking?

      • AlbertInTucson

        I have heard that rumor. That kick certainly won’t make it go away.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Is Robbie’s phone ringing?

    • madscout12

      If they drop walsh, the bears should be all over that in a sec. So much better than barf and not even funny.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I would take Walsh over Barf.

        • madscout12

          You know what would cure his woes? A change of scenery. Come to a place where we don’t miss kicks to lose playoff games.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He has actually made kicks in Solidier Field.

    • was thinking the same

  • BearDown100393

    ODB should be benched. Absolutely useless this game.

  • Johnnywad

    Eli blows.

    • MB30SD

      So this

  • AlbertInTucson

    Rhodes ran a real nice route there.

    • BearDown100393

      Rhodes > ODB

      • AlbertInTucson

        I believe he is in ODB’s head now.

        • BearDown100393

          Whatever that constitutes

          • AlbertInTucson

            Darkness. LOTS of darkness.

          • madscout12

            Fuck your couch.

          • MB30SD

            It’s fuck YO couch

          • madscout12

            I think I’m bleeding in my chest.

      • ODB didn’t want ANY part of that tackle.

        • SC Dave

          He got bimbo on the brain.

          • BearDown100393

            “+” before kick off

  • BearDown100393

    “I’m surprised Beckham isn’t over there with Eli” – Gruden
    Because ODB don’t care……

    • AlbertInTucson

      Nobody ELSE is surprised, Jon.

      • BearDown100393

        So this

      • madscout12

        There’s a reason he doesn’t coach again.

        The man’s an idiot.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Walsh redeemed!

    • The Blair Walsh Project!

      Scarier than the movie, and perhaps more erratic!

      • AlbertInTucson

        That movie stunk out loud.

        Unwatchble.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Holy fuck did you just see that race baiting piece of shit commercial for Birth of a Nation?

    • AlbertInTucson

      It’ll be in the theatres for about 20 minutes.

      • PaceBot 2000

        It was all but advocating a race war. Splicing in black lives matter protests with slaves planning a revolt.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Anyonoe who doesn’t go see it will be branded a you-know-what.
          And I don’t mean “Discerning Movie Goer”.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Propoganda

          • PaceBot 2000

            I can’t believe they actually just ran that commercial. I’m in fucking shock right now.

          • willbest

            I thought the Purge series was about starting a race war.

          • SC Dave

            Might want to check the Controversy section…

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Birth_of_a_Nation_(2016_film)

    • SC Dave

      Quoting the director:

      “Griffith’s film relied heavily on racist propaganda to evoke fear and desperation as a tool to solidify white supremacy as the lifeblood of American sustenance. Not only did this film motivate the massive resurgence of the terror group the Ku Klux Klan and the carnage exacted against people of African descent, it served as the foundation of the film industry we know today. I’ve reclaimed this title and re-purposed it as a tool to challenge racism and white supremacy in America, to inspire a riotous disposition toward any and all injustice in this country (and abroad) and to promote the kind of honest confrontation that will galvanize our society toward healing and sustained systemic change.”

      • When art has a predetermined objective, it usually SUCKS.

        • willbest

          To hear critics all art had predetermined objectives designed to provoke whatever the critic is prattling on about, and it is apparent to everybody who is cultured that this is so.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Like Oliver Stone films?

        • SC Dave

          Might one call the presence of said predetermined objective the difference between “art” and “propaganda”?

          • madscout12

            Yeah, that doesn’t hold water. The Jungle was terrible. And animal farm. And 12 years a slave.

          • usually, yes.
            Though some nazis art was truly “beautiful” in a purely aesthetic way.

            It’s actually a huge aesthetic argument, whether a person can consider an object morally reprehensible “beautiful”

  • madscout12

    Fuck Larry Fitz for selling that ducking snake oil.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Bradford can play

    • willbest

      I was ridiculed for saying he was a significant upgrade from Teddy Bridgewater, even while conceding he is brittle.

    • SC Dave

      I was ridiculed for suggesting that Bradford had played on a bunch of shitty teams.

    • BearDown100393

      Meh. Vikings should trade a few 1st rounders and get themselves a gunslinger.

  • BerwynBomber

    Could we be looking at Bradford winning a ring? Yikes …

    • Bradford is really inconsistent. He just missed a wide open Diggs.
      He also is made of glass.

      • madscout12

        I see every hit he takes and think, “will this be the one?”

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Helluva run

  • BerwynBomber

    Let’s go G-Men.

  • madscout12

    Gmen back in it

  • AlbertInTucson

    Good. A reason to keep watching.

  • Typical Eli game
    You’re sleeping through 3 quarters, then 4rth Q comes alive

    And unless it’s the playoffs, we know how this will end.

    With an Eli turnover.

  • BearDown100393

    In the running for dumbest looking NFL fans.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They don’t wear cheese as clothing.

      • BearDown100393

        Not yet anyway.

  • AlbertInTucson

    A walk in.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Giants secondary is awful

    • AlbertInTucson

      That whole defense looked awful that play.

    • MB30SD

      godawful

  • BearDown100393

    Eli has defeat written all over his privileged face.

    • willbest

      So is he the worst ever 2 or more time SB winning QB?

      • BearDown100393

        luckiest

  • MB30SD

    2 things:

    1. Chuckie is such a fucking tool. if you like him, I likely don’t like you

    2. The giants suuuuuuck

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Chuckie is the greatest ever FUTURE HOFer!

      • Huge Bears Penis

        and the giants suck

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Chucks sounds like Caliendos impression of him

      • MB30SD

        totally, and you know how much I like that clown

        • Huge Bears Penis

          Caliendo is the greatest ever FUTURE HOFer!

        • Freddy G.P. Soft

          Frank sucks

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Do we play the G-men this season?

      • BerwynBomber

        I believe the NFCN plays the NFCE this year.

    • BerwynBomber

      I like Gruden. Damn fine announcer. Just puts on the ESPN shtick a bit much.

      • MB30SD

        yep, there it is.

        He’s horrible dude. save the drama for your mama

        • BerwynBomber

          Nah, best in the biz.

          • MB30SD

            turrible

    • BearDown100393

      He knows QBs and running an offense. Much prefer he stick with the X and Os instead of dumbing himself down and pander to MNF fantasy followers.

  • SC Dave

    Hmm… sounded like a fine drive for Bradford, et al.

  • PaceBot 2000

    The lead in to the commercials conveniently cropped out the bottom half of McKinnon as he grabbed and adjusted his huge black cock as part of the TD celebration. Good times.

    • MB30SD

      that dance was….. bad.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Scuse me while I whip this out

    • AlbertInTucson

      Homage to Michael Jackson.

      • PaceBot 2000

        Oh

      • MB30SD

        did you see it down there Al.

        I said his td dance was………………. bad. (hee hee, get it?!)

  • Should’ve started McKinnon over Forte

    • Huge Bears Penis

      McKinnon is the greatest ever FUTURE HOFer!

      • Huge Bears Penis

        and Forte sucks.

  • MB30SD

    btw… victor who?

  • willbest

    So do people still think I am premature with my AP is done position?

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      I jinxed him with my FF name

      • willbest

        McKinnon has roughly the same carries as AP and 80 more yards, and the line should in theory be worse since they have a backup tackle

    • I always thought McKinnon had potential.

      He’s a bit undersized though. Supposedly, the Vikes want to renegotiate APs contract though, so we’ll see.

    • BerwynBomber

      You remind us how often you’re right. Do you ever remind us when your wrong or are you ever?

      • willbest

        You mean when I ate crow down thread? yes

        • MB30SD

          damn, he called you out!

          You gonna just sit there and take that!?

          • willbest

            Pardon me, it was yesterday

            “I will eat crow. I told some people they were being ridiculous in their
            Howard is our starter by game 4. They got lucky with injuries, but its
            clear he was going to be the starter by the end of the year either way.” – Will Best

          • Irish Sweetness

            Accepted.

            (pats Will on head)

      • Huge Bears Penis

        willbest is the greatest ever FUTURE HOFer!

        • Freddy G.P. Soft

          Is there an asshole lawyer HOF?

          Is like F Lee the dean?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Just a regular lawyer HOF, but i believe being an asshole is a prerequisite to being a lawyer

          • willbest

            Its true, even the ones that spend their time in 3rd world countries trying to prevent political prisoners from being executed are assholes.

          • MB30SD

            hippies in disguise

          • AlbertInTucson

            I believe F. Lee was ultimately disbarred
            .

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Fun fact

            In the OJ movie, F Lee is played by Nathan Lane, who is now the Bears OC

  • Junk time stats.

    hold on GP! Shady’s ODB might get some

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Fucked my MNF again

  • PaceBot 2000

    Ben mackadoo looks like he masturbates at local playgrounds.

    • I thought he came out in to Catch a Predator

      • willbest

        Maybe he like Pokemon, you don’t know.

    • madscout12

      Get out of my head.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        Six pack of Schlitz on the dash of a 93 Impala

  • AlbertInTucson

    Good night, G-Strings.

  • madscout12

    Is it just me, or does McAdoo look creepy as fuck? That mustache is a bad choice.

  • AlbertInTucson

    SVP follows.
    Haven’ t watched him since he got the SC LA gig.
    I did enjoy his radio show.

  • madscout12

    Exhibit 23876 why holding is the most inconsistently enforced penalty.

  • MB30SD

    gotta give it up man, bradford looks really good.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Yeah but when does his glass jaw get shattered?

      • willbest

        In fairness to him he has played at least 10 games in 4 of his 6 NFL seasons

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Hey, I remember when he was a rook and almost beat us in St. Louis. The guy has talent, no doubt.

      • MB30SD

        that’s the $64,000 question my man

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Butch

    Shady left 80 points on his bench. Is that a shit coaching record?

    • Jes.

      I see he picked up my sloppy seconds in Steve Smith. 31 points right there.

      And last week he sat the Chiefs D that went off for 35.

      Like I say, the draft is 1/3rd of the winning formula. The 2nd is picking which players will ball.

  • BerwynBomber

    I can rationalize Rodgers. Or AP. Or Matthews. Or back in the day, Megatron, Suh, Woodson, etc. Or heck even young Diggs now. Or heck, Zimmer.

    But really, I have to rationalize Bradford now? Fuck! SMH …

    • Huge Bears Penis

      it’s an alien conspiracy!

    • willbest

      That defense takes a lot of pressure off that offense.

      • BerwynBomber

        I know. I’m partaking in a bit of hyperbole with Bradford but the dude has played damn well.

  • Kendricks dropped that. Eli must end it on a turnover.
    It’s his MO

  • I would LOOOOVE to see the Pats v Vikes

    See how Hoodie would solve that D

    • BerwynBomber

      How about PIT/MIN? Just so sick of NE …

      • Philly shut down PIT.

        Imagine what the Vikes would do.

        • BerwynBomber

          One game though. And early in the season. Not saying it doesn’t mean anything. But just remember two years ago KC was slaughtering NE early in the year and SEA was struggling too.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Cincy might be a dark horse. Butkus Burfict on D behind Geno Smith … with Eifert back to take the pressure off AJ.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Vikes got to get past us 1st. we going 13-3

      • MB30SD

        HOF!!!!!

        • Huge Bears Penis

          Damn Skippy!

  • PaceBot 2000

    Sorry Teddy, it’s over.

    • BerwynBomber

      Probably but Zimmer seems to love him like a son. I bet he’s given every chance to return.

      • PaceBot 2000

        If he runs again meaningfully it will be a minor miracle of science and personal will.

        • MB30SD

          Yay Wynstrol!

          • PaceBot 2000

            I’ll excuse it in this case. Give him the hgh, the Lance Armstrong hyper blood, the Urlacher Swiss knee juice, etc

          • Huge Bears Penis

            deer antler extract??

          • PaceBot 2000

            All of it.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            just not the Russell Wilson Healing water, that is just a bunch of mumbo jumbo

          • BerwynBomber

            The Swiss knee juice? Hah! Kobe had that stuff too. The spin your blood stuff, right?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Given Bradford’s health history, he should have an opportunity.

        • Teddy? Not sure.

          That inj was grotesque.

          They’re keeping him around to throw him some cash, methinks.

          • willbest

            They were talking like he might not have been able to keep the leg.

    • BearDown100393

      He’s being rehabbed to walk not play football again.

      • MB30SD

        sure, until he can’t fucking run, then….

        (Whoops, this was supposed to be under BB’s post below)

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wow.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      Teddy could have been the greatest ever, was going to be a FUTURE HOFer!

      • BearDown100393

        Only after Connor Shaw is inducted.

  • willbest

    I kind of feel good for the people of Minnesota. At least they are getting a solid looking product after ponying up ~$500 million for their stadium. Helps cushion the buyers remorse

    • BearDown100393

      They should reward this effort with a team booze cruise before the ice sets in.

      • MB30SD

        good suggestion!

  • If AP was still in the lineup, would be a scary team.

    AP was struggling mightily, but he tends to start slow cuz he doesn’t do PS.

    If a team can run against that D, it can be beat.

    • BerwynBomber

      I actually think Foxy might do decently against MIN. He’s definitely more conservative than McCarthy or Caldwell. Dropping back every down allows the Vikes to tee off.

      You have to stay committed to the run against them. Fox is more wired to do that than our other non-MIN rivals.

      • Our interior seemed to play better. If Long is healing a bit, or managing the pain better, combined with Howard and those accurate crossing routes, I think the Vikes can be had.

        Their O is barely mediocre, no matter how much Gruden was trying to blow Norv.

    • willbest

      See you said that but then I went backed and checked first 2 games. Outside the year he was suspended he never was worse than 4.2 YPC through the first two games. But he started this year at 1.6.

      2016 – 31 for 50 yards (2 games and change)
      2015 – 39 for 165
      2014 – 21 for 77 (1 game before suspended)
      2013 – 44 for 193
      2012 – 33 for 144
      2011 – 41 for 218
      2010 – 47 for 232

      2009 – 40 for 272
      2008 – 48 for 263
      2007 – 39 for 169

      • He looked extra horrible this year, I admit.

        He may well be done. Or it might take him longer to get going.

        Then again, pretty sure with a new QB, the defenses were stacking the box.

        Tod Gurley is in his prime, and he’s avg like 2 yds per carry for same reason.

        or

        Father time maybe finally caught up to AP.

        Hard to say.

  • FF

    No Diggity didn’t blow up.

    Phew.

    And I beat NB once again.
    Bears 505 and GP with must wins.

    Shady got ODBd.

    • MB30SD

      FFKRF

  • MB30SD

    is it just me, or do you guys love Moss’ accent too?

    • the guy who sounds weird is Woodson. And he sports that, what is it called, ackcroft? Something like that. The tie that’s not a tie

      • MB30SD

        yeah, homie is still a fucking STUD

        ascot?

      • BerwynBomber

        Woodson is not as natural as Moss. Then again, they’re both light years better than Ray Lewis.

        Hasselback’s a snooze. I don’t need dudes shouting at me but he’s the opposite extreme.

    • BerwynBomber

      If you ever get a chance, check out the 30 for 30 on Moss called “Rand University”. Was quite good. The guy will always be polarizing, but it does make you understand how the chip on his shoulder could be boulder-like.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Going to watch that now.

  • MB30SD
    • Irish Sweetness

      See that MB? ODB with 3 catches for 23 yards. By your own standards, Meredith had a bigger game, eh? Eh?

      • MB30SD

        Nice Irish, niiiiiiiiice!

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Odell Beckham the most emotionally fragile player in the league?”

    “Fragile.”

    That’s putting it kindly.

    I would substitue “Unstable.”

    I would say he has definitely surpassed Bmarsh.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Didn’t matter who I started this week. My opponent kicked butt.

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    New thread, btw

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