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Analysis Adds Up: Rapid Fire Reaction to an Opening Loss in Houston

| September 12th, 2016

Thursday I wrote a column and said the game would come down to protection for Jay Cutler and Houston’s wide receivers vs. the Bears secondary. The game came down to those two things. The Bears lost both battles. They lost the second half. They lost the game.

Rapid fire…

  • Willie Young has to play better in the six-game span McPhee is sidelined. Leonard Floyd’s ability/explosiveness is obvious but the Bears need Young to be their best pass rusher.
  • If the Bears had ANY consistent pass rush they would have forced Osweiler into mistakes. He was fragile. But they made him comfortable.
  • DeAndre Hopkins is an unbelievable player. How can you get mad about the plays he was making? That was all world stuff.
  • The Will Fuller touchdown was inexcusable. But that call – in that situation – was made because Bill O’Brien saw something.
  • John Fox has to challenge that spot. It doesn’t matter if most spot challenges are unsuccessful. That was a 4 and potentially 7 point swing. The risk is a timeout. The reward is you’re still in the game.
  • Dowell Loggains. Not a sterling debut. Did the Bears not expect Romeo to start bringing pressure in the second half?

  • Bears run game is going to be powerful up the middle. Langford seems like he gets 2-3 more yards than he should on every carry.
  • Kyle Long sure didn’t look pleased with Bobby Massie’s work in pass protection.
  • How about Jerrell Freeman? Explain to me why the Colts didn’t need this guy anymore. That was sideline-to-sideline middle linebacker play the Bears haven’t seen since 54’s prime.
  • Tracy Porter may not be a great corner but he makes plays.
  • Kevin White has to learn the routes. Preferably not during games. And if he doesn’t know the routes, throw him some bubble screens at least.
  • How about Eddie Royal? People forget how good a player he is when healthy.
  • Alshon’s first half was remarkable. He was dominating the game. His second half? Forgettable.
  • I though both Bears safeties looked pretty good overall.

Houston is the better team, especially in their building. But Bears had every opportunity to stay in and win this game. Lots of elements seem headed in the right direction, with one major area of concern: pass rush.

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  • Bender McLugh

    Completely agreed on your first point – not enough pass rush at all to disrupt Ostrich. Looking at the Eagles game, Bears have the same task against Wentz. Can’t let the rook get comfortable or he’ll eat the secondary alive.

    • Scharfinator

      Yeah, well written Jeff. I figured the battle would tell the story, and it kinda did. We didn’t have much for pressure and in the second half, our blocking began to slip.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Original thought does not exist outside of the all seeing eye. You’re welcome.

        • Scharfinator

          Huh?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            My bad. Jeff just cracks me up because he comes up with multiple scenario’s before every game and he always finds a way to remind us. I can literally SEE him reaching over his shoulder to pat himself on the back every time he does it. lol

  • Bender McLugh

    I was bummed not to see Howard in there for a series in the 3rd quarter. Loggains needs to not abandon the run when it’s working, which it was until the 4th.

    • Jokey

      Me too. Evaluate him and also preserve the tread on Langford’s tires.

  • The Colts wanted Jerrell Freeman back. He chose to sign in Chicago. I think both teams offered the same contract.

  • BearDown100393

    Massie is JWebb with tied shoes.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      naw you must not remember how bad JWebb was even with his shoes tied.

  • GPLDAN

    Thayer said the OL coach was fucking with Massie. They lined Paulsen and Miller but it appeared Massie simply did not know if they were going to chip or release.

    He blamed what happened to Massie on coaching.

    • On one play, The TE chipped but chipped the rusher right past Massie.

      The problems with the oline was def communication, or lack thereof. Paulsen and Miller didn’t get many reps with Massie.

      Sitton while being a pro only had a few days to learn the playbook, and Whitehair is still a raw rook (while Long has a bum shoulder).

      I have no doubt our Oline will gel more, but Massie’s inability to slow down speed rushers will be a huge handicap.

      Whitehair played OT. Maybe we should start training him at RT, move Larsen to C.

      Just a thought.

      • willbest

        That is too much for the guy. He is a soldier, and do what you ask, but you can’t change his position every 3 weeks and expect to get NFL level production out of him

        • I think we’re going to have to decide rather soon if it’s more important to have a good C or a good RT.

          If speed rushers keep looping around Massie like a turnstop, Cutler’s gonna get killed.

          Cutty was hit 13 times according to Score.

          Cutty ALREADY looked hurt.

          Edit. Other possibility.

          Move Long to RT again, and Whitehair to OG

  • BillW

    Good summary – I didn’t see the game but from things I’ve read and looking at the stats (which by themselves are almost always misleading) Jeff’s points augment the impression I got.

    Jeff tweets that Monday is a must win. I agree if the goal is the playoffs. But my expectations are different. We have a solid offense line in the making (though the tackles may not be as solid as I expected). But it will take time. Game 2 should be better than game 1, but Cutler may still be roughed up at times.

    Can Loggains put them in position to counter that? Screens and draws are the conventional way. Probably others too like rollouts (did Jay rollout much or at all?)

    Pass rush was weaker than I expected/hoped. C’mon, Vic! You’ve got new toys to play with – dial up something!

    I had a concern based on nothing that Loggains might not be up to the task. Well, the concern was based on things I’ve seen in business – someone suddenly resigns and they give the job to an underling “for continuity” and the underling isn’t up to it. We’ll see – it’s early. But why suddenly the concern of continuity? Cutler’s learned more offenses (probably) than any QB his age. One more – assuming it’s a good one – shouldn’t be a problem.

    I think of the first half as learning experience for many on the team. That’s the next step.

    To me, year one was ridding the stench of Trestman. Mission accomplished. The fact that Fox is no longer judged in comparison to him proves that. To me, by the last say 5-6 games the Bears need to look like they will be a strong contender in 2017. The type of team some sportswriter names as their sleeper pick. I think that’s a reasonable expectation.

  • CanadaBear

    How does Langford get an extra 2-3 yds each carry and avg 3.4 yds/carry? Sounds like a load of old boleros to me.

    • SC Dave

      This. I remain unimpressed by Langford.

      I was pleased with Floyd though.

      • CanadaBear

        I’m not trying to grind on Langford. He had 1 nice 15-yd run. Other than that, 3 yds and a cloud of dust. I’m sure he’ll have better games but it makes no sense what Jeff wrote. I get some people on here want to justify launching Forte but they aren’t going to make their point after this game. Same thing, I’m not mad they let Forte walk and I understand it.

        • willbest

          The justification for launching Forte is he is old, and has a lot of miles. Now Forte was always more of a smart runner than a power or fast runner so he took less of a beating, but age waits for no man, and it is particularly cruel to NFL RBs.

          • CanadaBear

            Totally agree and that’s why I understood letting him walk. What I didn’t understand was so many posters on here thought Langford was going to waltz in and be the man. Uh, no.

          • SC Dave

            Definitely with you on the second point. But its early and there is much time for things to improve.

            I remain optimistic about Jeremy, but am simply not impressed *at this time*.

          • CanadaBear

            Me too. Not trying to grind on him but why not bring in the other guys once in a while. I think Carey got one carry and Howard zero.

    • BearDown100393

      Apparently because the author who scribed that sentiment expects Langford to fall flat on his face after being handed off the football.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    High hopes in the first half. Second half was painful.

    Not sure exactly what happened but either our Oline got tired, especially our tackles or the Texans just adjusted and swamped our Oline to get to Cutty. Either way Oline was a failure second half and that cost us the game. Sure our secondary got beat here and there but that happens to every team, every Sunday. I put that loss soley on our Oline’s shoulders. Cutty can’t do anything if he’s on his butt or scrambling for air…

    Damn, if only we could have had 2 halves like the first half…WE LOOKED GOOD.

    BTW, I thought Sitton was rock solid, over all he did very well even vs. Watt.

    • SC Dave

      Over rated??

      Hahahaha… good joke!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Clearly not yet 100%.

        • And Sitton got away with holding a few times.
          But he’s a crafty vet, so he didn’t make it obvious.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        He’s just one guy and one guy makes not a Defense.

        He didn’t stand out at all yesterday vs. an Oline still jelling.

        I’m not saying he not a good player…

        • BerwynBomber

          He’s a great player. He is coming back from very serious injuries. My guess is we won’t see the Watt of old until next year. But even the Watt of 75% was bringing pressure.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    If protection is an issue, you have to adjust. Bears didn’t. What happened in locker room at halftime decided game. https://twitter.com/rbfrosty26/status/775330893883858944

    Or, apparently, what DIDN’T happen in the locker room at halftime.

    • willbest

      Cutler, and many other players have been on record with comments like half-time adjustments aren’t really as big as everybody seems to believe, which makes sense when you realize how much time the coaches have to confer and relay new information to the players.

      Also, it was Houston that needed to make half time adjustments since the Bears were doing rather well against everything except the run game. So really you are talking about making in quarter adjustments to what Houston is doing differently.

      • CanadaBear

        If the coaching staff is even remotely proactive, they should have anticipated Alshon getting doubled after the half. I didn’t detect any adjustments by the Bears in the second half. Very Lovie-like.

        • Bears-4-Ever

          “Very Lovie-like.”

          I think I just threw-up a little in my mouth.

          • BearDown100393

            To challenge or not to challenge that is the question

          • Scharfinator

            Hah, even that happened to be Lovie like.

            Shit, who was it saying we have white Lovie now?

          • CanadaBear

            Butch is always calling Fox albino Lovie.

          • Scharfinator

            Ahhh, kudos to Butch then.

          • CanadaBear

            Butch knows things!

          • AlbertInTucson

            The Catch? Hell no!

            The Spot? hell yes!

          • Sactowns#1

            The choice to not challenge the spot and then to challenge a clear catch was confounding and infuriating.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Once again, “Lovie-Like”.

        • SC Dave

          That always was the problem – inability to make effective adjustments.

        • It’s not rocket science!

          Come out and see that the Texans are double bracketing Alshon 3 plays in a row, hey, maybe someone else is open?

          Maybe that S over Alshon can’t stop the run!

          Maybe send Alshon on GO routes clearing out 2 guys, and begin hitting Royal and Miller underneath, esp since Brian Cushing was out.

          Maybe a boot leg, reverse/screen with White, misdirection, draw, PA.

          Whatever happened to Gase’s read-option? Didn’t that work with Cutty last season?

          Fuck, SOMETHING.

          Ugh.

  • dmckendree@post.com

    Seriously? ” Langford seems like he gets 2-3 more yards than he should on every carry.” He looks like he gets what is blocked or less. He seems to have poor balance to me as he stumbles and trips over blades of grass that might be a 1/4 inch higher than the rest. Did you watch David Johnson last night? He gets 2-3 more yards than he should. Johnson was a 3rd round pick,15 picks after we wasted ours on Grasu.

    • SC Dave

      Insufficient info to call Grasu a wasted pick.

      • GPLDAN

        No it’s not. You can call a bust a bust when his injury issues make it so.

        • Captain Obvious

          Injuries are so random. A guy’s a bust if he never lives up to his hype because he doesn’t put the work in, doesn’t develop, doesn’t find what works. A guy’s not a bust if he gets hurt–because that’s mainly dumb luck.

          • willbest

            A guy is a bust if you draft him to be a #1 WR and he can’t get on the field.

      • willbest

        He signed a 4 year contract, and if the Bears are to get value out of him it will be in year 3 when he will be no higher than 2nd on the depth chart at Center.

        Although maybe not. They paid Massie so they are going to start him at tackle, but I would like to know what happens in the alternate reality of Leno-Sitton-Larsen-Whitehair-Long. Of course Long only has 1 arm so thats a problem with that configuration already.

      • Predictaltor calculates 97% bust chance.

        I feel like we only drafted him to make Long happy.

        Massie was Long’s buddy too.

        Does Long have any enemies? Maybe we should start signing them for our Oline.

  • willbest

    Langford got 57 yards on 17 carries for an average of 3.35 yards per carry. So you are saying that he should have been blown up at the line of scrimmage most of the game. That is not a power run game up the middle.

    Alshon’s Second half was forgettable because they glued 2 guys to him and dared the Bears to beat them with anybody else. And they couldn’t because every other offensive weapon the Bears have is a JAG, and Houston has a beastly D-line. The Bears need to get used to that because that is going to be everybody’s gameplan against them going forward. Now the good news is not everybody has Houston’s D-line, but somebody else is going to need to win their 1 on 1 battles on the regular or the offense will look exactly like it did in the 2nd half all season.

    There seems to be some sort of Floyd hype that I just don’t understand. No he didn’t get embarrassed against an O-line that was just slapped together last week. If that is what passes for a promising future, we have really lowered the bar. I get that we all WANT him to be great, but right now he is out there due to draft day privileges and the desire to get him experience. Not because he is significantly better than the guy behind him on the depth chart.

    I really hate this calling White a rookie. He isn’t, he has had access to the Bears playbook, film room, and coaches for an entire year longer than every other rookie. He has also had a dozen more practices. I get that he is green because he didn’t play a lot in college and you can get by in college just being a physical freak, but calling him a rookie needs to end. He is a project. And a big one. Rookie WR debuts yesterday:

    Corey Coleman 2 of 5 for 69 yards
    Will Fuller 5 of 11 for 107 yards and a TD
    Laquon Treadwell 0 of 0 (Minny had no offense outside of Stephen Diggs)
    Sterling Shepard 3 of 4 for 43 yards and a TD
    Michael Thomas 6 of 6 for 58 yards
    Tyler Boyd 2 of 3 for 24 yards

    compared to Kevin White

    Kevin White 3 of 7 for 34 yards (though 2 of them were specifically done at high risk to Cutler after the Bears conceded the game)

    And that really ibothers me. They sent Floyd out there in the pre-season with the 2nd and 3rd stringers to get him the reps they needed to develop him. They coddled White. And its clear they shouldn’t have.

    Fine the Bears have communication issues on the line. Its a new line, with a new center. So I will give them a couple games to sort that out. Although, Long-Massie-TE/RB chip/release has been right side since camp started so I find this dubious.

    • GPLDAN

      You underestimate the extent of White’s hammy. It crippled him. He showed no speed.

      It may be the guy will never have Will Fuller the THIRD like speed, again. His brain is a problem, I agree. He seems stupid. In interviews, he seems low IQ. He probably is. It’s an issue, but also filter it through the fact he was playing gimped.

      • SC Dave

        According to the criteria you just applied to Grasu, White has to qualify as a bust for you also, eh?

        • GPLDAN

          Not yet. If he goes down this year, then yes – he’s a bust. If he can heal his hammy and regain some speed, he may be useful.

          I would like to see him dress but Meredith to get his snaps while he is that gimped.

        • Unlike White, Grasu embarrassed himself last year so badly he got benched.

          White does the same this year, he’ll be getting the bust label soon.

          • SC Dave

            He’s off to a flying start, regrettably.

      • CanadaBear

        If he was that dinged up, sit him. At no point yesterday did anyone think, White’s on the verge of exploding. He looked like shit the entire game.

        • willbest

          Yeah Bellamy wouldn’t have run the run route.

          • CanadaBear

            Why keep trotting him out there if he’s dinged up and playing terrible?

          • GPLDAN

            Same rationale that continued to try and make Chicken Dinner useful.

          • SC Dave

            Yup… gotta justify my 1st round pick.

          • Meredith!

            #IrishHeerrroo

      • TBC

        Will fuller the FIFTH*

      • BearDown100393

        He. just. stood. there.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He wasn’t gimped in the pre-season. He was 100%. Never flashed, while a no-name like Meredith looked like a #1. I’m worried about White, but either he gets it together or he gets benched.

        • willbest

          Meredith didn’t flash against CB1’s

  • dmckendree@post.com

    “Langford seems like he gets 2-3 more yards than he should on every carry.” Wow that is absurd. I guess he had a 3.4 yard avg. He get little yac, has little wiggle and constantly stumbles through holes like Neal Anderson did at the end of his career. The difference is Langford is no Neal Anderson.

    • GPLDAN

      The announcers kept saying “Langford gets stronger as the game goes on.”

      He doesn’t. You can’t compare the MSU shit to the Pros. Stop saying that, you morons.

    • BerwynBomber

      I liked Langford coming out of the draft but yeah he was never the prospect Anderson was. There were reasons why one guy went in the first round (Anderson) and the other guy went in the fourth (Langford). And not all those reasons were attributable to the devaluation of the RB position.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We haven’t had a Neal Anderson since Neal Anderson.

      • SC Dave

        Neal is underrated, but Forte was better.

  • Dago T

    “That was sideline-to-sideline middle linebacker play the Bears haven’t seen since 54’s prime.”

    Yeah, and 54’s prime was what, a season or two?

    • BerwynBomber

      Huh?

      • SC Dave

        Its a troll

    • beninnorcal

      Your mom goes to college.

  • GPLDAN

    Is there a reason that Willie Young seems to have lost all his pass rushing ability? The Texans tackles were a concern for the Texans. He made them look all-Pro.

    I mean, fuck, go get Ian Seau off the street. That was a joke.

    • willbest

      Was Willie 1 on 1 most the time? Its not like Houston was getting there either and he came on at the end of last season.

      • GPLDAN

        He had straight shots most passing downs and was locked up and slid to the side by the Tackles, no chips. I can’t recall a time he swam or countered for any pressure.

        Guys who pressured were Unrein, Goldman and Hicks.

        • SC Dave

          I definitely remember Unrein collapsing the pocket a couple of times.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He looked terrible. The RT had him mostly. He shouldn’t be rushing like an end, he’s too small.

  • BerwynBomber

    “The Will Fuller touchdown was inexcusable. But that call – in that situation – was made because Bill O’Brien saw something.”

    It was a helluva call and executed perfectly. A WR screen on third and long is a bit like calling a draw on third and long. And sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the opposing team.

  • GPLDAN

    I loved the inside play by Freeman and Trevathan. Those guys come UP and stop runs.

    They are anti-Chicken Dinners.

  • GPLDAN

    In other news, Elon Musk said that aliens blew up his Space X rocket:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/images/user3303/imageroot/2016/09/01/20160901_boom_0.jpg

    Irish and I will be releasing a new single on iTunes to acknowledge this:

    “Martians blew up my Rocket, but my ex-wife blew up my bank account.”

    Country and Western ballad, of course.

  • BearDown100393

    What exactly did John Fox and crew do during the half-time?

  • Sactowns#1

    A lot of talk about the O-line but at least 2-3 of those sacks were on Cutler. GET RID OF THE BALL!!

    • Scharfinator

      We didn’t run enough quick throws. Where were the slants?

      • willbest

        Bears are allergic to slants on both sides of the ball

    • I want to see All-22. I’m guessing there was nobody open.

      It looked like he couldn’t find anybody to throw to. 2nd half they took Alshon away, and he didn’t trust White to be in the right spot. Nobody to throw to.

      I would have liked to see more quick stuff, dump-offs to Langford, moving pockets, etc. The standard protections for a bad OL that no Chicago OC has been able to use effectively in my memory. The only one who tried was Trestman, but he overdid it at the expense of mixing in longer stuff.

      • In other words, you would have liked an actual OC instead Chaz Lane.

        #BirdCage

        • I really like their interior OL. It’s going to be fantastic by mid-season. But they had like 3 practices together after moving a rookie over to C for the first time in his career and plugging in a FA that week. It should get better every week.

          Leno is a guy. If he’s your worst starter, that’s a good OL.

          Unfortunately he’s not their worst starter. Bobby Massie is. Teams are going to attack him in pass pro all year. Line up your best rusher opposite him and Cutler will not have enough time to throw unless you’re doubling.

    • BerwynBomber

      Cutty’s never had the quickest release nor been the most snap decisive QB. That said, the O-line protection broke down in the second half, which was a bit odd in that they held up well in the first.

      But they were also facing one of the most dangerous pair of rushers in the league in Watt and Clowey (and yes even a Watt at 3/4 speed). So my guess is better days ahead.

      P.S. the INT was obviously miscommunication or White simply running the wrong route, but it was also an ugly toss, a backfooted, wounded-duck of a ball.

    • willbest

      On one of those the replay showed all 4 players out on routes completely covered.

    • From memory, TWO were blatantly on Cutty. Be like Garraplo, Cutty.

      Elbow, high and tight. Throw at 3.3 or lower. Quick throwing motion.

      Another sack was Cutty’s fault too, but that was when the game was ending, and he was trying to make a play, so I kinda don’t blame him for that.

      The other sacks were on stunts, delayed blitz, etc.

      • Sactowns#1

        Damn it I wish we would have drafted Garropolo.

  • I still think it came down to running the ball.

    Texans pounded the Bears running in the 1st half. Bears adjusted and shut the run game down in the 2nd half, but at the expense of getting sliced up through the air. The adjustments took away their ability to defend the pass capably and rush the passer.

    Bears couldn’t establish the run, so as the game wore on Houston was able to amp up their pass rush and kill Cutler. Pass protection got worse as the game went on because Houston made them one dimensional and knew it was coming.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Thing is, our line can run it, but Langford just doesn’t have what Howard has. Cutty got murdered in that game because they weren’t buying the run. If we started banging Howard in there then teams would have to respect that, and then Cutty can get it downfield on play-action.

    • Jokey

      The play Long was on Massie about, Massie got beat around the outside by a speed rush. On one that Leno gave up, he stopped moving his feet and was bent over at the waist – a big no-no. They just looked bad. I don’t think it had anything to do with run/pass; you need to be able to defend the edge on a passing down 1-on-1 against your man.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Thoughts on the first half:

    1. If we judge the offense on its first possession, we can be pretty good.

    2. Kevin White’s body tells you where he’s going before he makes his break. His routes aren’t seamless. Left Cutty hanging out to dry for the INT. Cameron Meredith needs to be introduced in his place. Keep White for screens and go routes.

    3. I got some stick for saying if Cody started at center we’d lose/ Look at what happened with less than 3 minutes to go in the first. Cody muffs the snap. We were already in FG range. If Ted Larsen is in there that doesn’t happen, we get the required few inches (hopefully) and then have a good chance at 7 points. We come away from the drive between 10-14 points to nothing. That’s on Cody. Decent blocker who can’t call the protections or snap the ball consistently. He’s not ready to play Center. We blocked a FG that went through. Game could have gone either way for us but it’s those plays that can turn a game like that, and it was done early. That’s a different ballgame right there if you go up two TDs.

    4. Jordan Howard must be used. He brings a dimension that Langford doesn’t have he can catch the ball – so you don’t lose that when he’s on the field.

    5. Time will probably show that the Houston defense is pretty good. Clowney and Watt are on that line. Kyle was chewing him out on the sideline bigtime. First two picks next year? OTs.

    6. Massie is fine in run blocking and dealing with bull rushes in pass pro, but man is he useless against speed rushers.

    7. Vic Fangio has no balls. No balls.

    8. Defense is about Pressure, Vic. Capital ‘P’. You have NO balls.

    9. The players on D are fine. Bar the guy that just came off the bench. Porter isn’t quick enough to play press. Deiondre Hall is, and he can play press really well. Porter to nickel and Hall/Glenn get the nod at CB. He made a great pick. He gave up a lot through the air, dude was beaten like a drum.

    10. Adrian Amos is not making many mistakes but a lot of tackles.

    11. Danny Trevathan is really good when rushing the passer. Freeman looks great in coverage.

    12. Jay’s first half? Hurried but mostly very good. One very low pass to White. Another could have been picked …. but he was money.

    Second Half:

    13. When Cutty has time to throw, he’s money. Crennel was blitzing the shit out of him on third down because we din’t

    make the respect the run. We need Howard in there to do that.

    14. Watching Massie with the speed rushers is like watching Omiyale or Webb. We are in trouble at RT. Or rather Jay is.

    15. The second half was about Jay getting beaten up.

    Things that could bring hope:

    * Cutty won’t face that defense every week. If he has AJ, RoyaL & Cam, he’ll be fine.

    * Somebody in their infinite wisdom might put Larsen back at Center and keep Whitehair as the backup guard.

    * We might see some Jordan Howard, who is a better weapon than Langford IMO. I think he looks faster, and he’s obviously bigger and stronger. He catches the ball. Play him.

    * The eventual return of Nanny McPhee!

    • BerwynBomber

      Are you sure you’re not mixing up Glenn and Porter? I thought the latter had Hopkins most of the day and former had Fuller.

      • willbest

        Porter shadowed Hopkins most of the day.

        And for all of Irish’s Porter hate, Hopkins was limited to 5 of 8 for 54 yards and a TD. Which is better than the 7 of 12 for 95 yards and 0.7 TDs Hopkins averaged last year. Now throw in that Oz is better than the murders row of QBs they put out last year, and the Bears generated very little pass rush and its a minor miracle that Hopkins didn’t go off for 150 yards and 2 TDs. Then again, the ROOKIE WR Fuller V was 1 drop away from doing just that.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, that was my implied point. And even on Hopkins’ TD Porter had very good coverage.

          My take on Porter has always been that he is somewhat a poor man’s DeAngelo Hall in that he can get beat, isn’t much on run support but is definitely a DB playmaker. You can live with a guy like that.

          • willbest

            You can, but you prefer to be living with him on WR#2.

        • Irish Sweetness

          It’s hardly hate, but Hall and Glenn are (a) fit (b) fast and (c) better.

          • willbest

            You have zero evidence of (c) considering Porter covers WR#1 and those other guys cover WR#4

    • Johnnywad

      Larsen wasn’t out there because he sucks badly. And let’s not read too much into the fumbled snap. Grossman use to do it once a game from Olin. Who says it’s not on Jay?

      Cody is a bright spot from yesterday. Kid played his first game in the NFL out of his natural position and faired very well against an excellent rush.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I thought the replay showed pretty clear The Rook short snapped it.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s not on Jay – the snap was brutal. It went from being a 10-14 point lead to giving the ball to Houston only 7-0 down. It was the pivoal moment of the game and it was Whitehair’s fault not Cutty’s.

        • Johnnywad

          You must have a better replay available than me. From what I saw of it, it was very difficult to see exactly what happened in the exchange. Could have been all Cody’s fault, may be partly on Jay, we’ll never know. What I do know is that the game didn’t come down to that single play. Not even close. They kicked the Bears ass the entire second half. In fact they’re lucky Fuller drops an easy one or it’s a blowout.

          • Irish has ButtCam 22.

            It’s only sold in Thailand, but part of the Goodell trying to make the game international.

            ButtCam also doubles as an Alien antennae and pedo tracker.

          • BearDown100393

            I’m fairly certain (admittedly not 100% to be completely fair) that the replay showed Whitehair snap the football into his inner thigh.

    • Fangio is indeed looking like a pussy, and maybe that’s why the utterly dysfunctional 9ers didn’t want to promote him to HC.

      Last season, we didn’t have the talent, so being conservative was understandable.

      But this season, there’s no excuses. We have enough talent to blitz or be more exotic.

      When you see Chaz Lane with a limp vag going 3 and out, as a DC, you gotta say, “Ok men. This bitch is going to hang us out to dry until we’re on the field for 10 mins straight. We gotta bring the house and try to change momentum.”

      But instead, it was more death by papercuts.

      Maybe Fangio is constitutionally incapable of being aggressive.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Man did I cringe to see that plain expression on Fox’s face during the back and forth, back and forth of his face shot and the replays of potential error of ball spotting…bad flashback…

    The entire coverage of that game was just eye-rolling. Barely any mention of Bears players, their stats and accomplishments and etc. To see the “Watt Tracker” graphic popping up on the screen every other down on Houston’s defense was absolutely silly.

    And to see anti-Culter articles bashing him for not being in sync with White? WTF, it’s White’s first game in the NFL….how people can be so biased about stuff like this and be true fans of the sport? A true fan understands the ins and outs of how this sport is supposed to work, not judge by whether the athlete is your best beer drinking buddy.

    Saw many flashes of brilliance in the first half but the 2nd half was a complete stinker

    • willbest

      Sterling Shepard was in sync with Eli Manning so first game isn’t an excuse. Then again Shepard got preseason reps White didn’t.

      Whites performance yesterday incidentally had zip to do with Cutler. Other than the command at the end of the game for Cutler to risk getting his head taken off feeding White the ball.

      White blew his routes. That was mental on him. However, Pox put him out there despite the fact that in his present condition (a burner that can’t burn due to a hammy) he is the worst WR they have on the roster.

      The people clamoring for gos and screens assume he had speed, he clearly didn’t. I know Irish loves his Cam, I would have preferred Bellamy. Both of them would have been better options.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Putting White in, who has never played a down in the NFL, and was injured all of last year, and then was not 100 percent from a hammy issue…….IS A BAD MOVE!

        I was under the impression that is why we got White? To be a burner receiver making the big catch down the field? If he couldn’t do that, sit his ass to prevent potential further injuries.

        This is strange already. Did the coaches give in to the player to play? Ugh, Lovie flashbacks….

  • MikeBrownhadaPosse

    I love it when a team beats the hell out of us with a guy we passed up for Chicken Dinner.
    ugh.

  • BerwynBomber

    Btw, in the last half season’s worth of games, Tracy Porter has a) picked off A. Rodgers (at Lambeau no less), and b) stolen a ball from D. Hopkins’s mitts. Not too shabby.

    I said below that Porter has always reminded me of a poor man’s DeAngelo Hall. Like Hall, he offers little run support and can be beat. But also like Hall, he can make plays when the ball is in the air. He’s been a nice pick-up by Pace.

    • I’m really not that down on Porter.

      If the pass rush doesn’t improve, his man is going to get open. They’re ALL gonna get open.

      Hopkins is as good as AJ Green.

      AJ Green just put up 10/10 catches, 180 1TD on “Revis Island”. Andy Dalton’s QB rating going at Revis was 158.3. And that was WITH the Jets sacking him like 7 times.

      I think Porter held up a little better.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Porter is toast, can’t cover the speedy routes now.

  • Doc Nitty

    The Bears loss notwithstanding, it was a proud football weekend for this dad. My 8 and 10 year olds had their first tackle football games this weekend. My 8 year old, who I’ve long known was going to be a force on the gridiron had a great first ever game. 3 Sacks and at least 3 other tackles including a HUGE touchdown saving tackle on an intereception return where he ran from his left tackle positon all the way across the field. The greatest part is, knowing he plays D-end I told him on the way to the game: “I want to see three sacks from you today”. I was joking around trying to pump him up. Little did I know….

    #FutureHallofFamer

    • willbest

      But you will disown him if he is drafted by GB right?

  • – I thought Young would be better. Instead, he disappeared. Luckily, Flo picked up some slack. Still, agree with Jeff. The pass rush was spotty, and they were opening running lanes. We still need to upgrade the Dline.

    – Expected Hopkins and even Fuller to have big days given our secondary woes and lack of pass rush. But watching Fuller (and other rook WRs around the league) look competent on day one while White looked like he just put on pads for the first time was disheartening.

    – CHALLENGE THE CALL. Fuck. At least it stalls momentum and gives D chance to rest. Fucking Albino Lovie.

    – BIRDCAGED. It’s already a verb, noun and adj, and not a good one. COMPLETELY bereft of imagination, innovation, logic or balls. I’m not kidding, I think we need to look for another OC, one that is highly regarded and not just handed down like your older brothers worn out payless jordanz (the generic ones that fall apart in the rain)

    So the Bears did the opposite. Instead of coming out like Zombies then desperately clawing their way back at half time only to come up short and rack up junk time stats that inflate perception, the Bears came out strong, only to get outcoached and totally dismantled in the 2nd half. I don’t know which is worse.

    Starting uninspired and unprepared, or thoroughly getting outcoached in the 2nd half.

    I think we only played like ONE FULL game last season. This is a disturbing trend.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Nervous how the coaches and players respond to playing at Soldier field next Monday night…

      It’s so annoying to keep seeing passionless responses from the coaches while on the sideline.

      Also, are the replay reviewers for Fox the same guys from the Lovie era……yikes

      • GPLDAN

        Read the Elway ESPN piece.

        John Fox has lost fire. Maybe after his heart issues. He is just waiting for his fishing boat dayz.

        • I’m beginning to believe that piece more with every game.

          The Bears never seem to play a FULL game under Albino Lovie.

          It’s no secret I wouldn’t have gone with Loggains, but maybe it’s not too late.

          Hire some hot shot OC like McDaniels (but not McDaniels) who is close to being HC.

          Fire Loggains immediately. Do a “bridge” OC scheme for now (he, the Broncos did it with Peyton/Kubiak), but little by little start erasing all things Birdcage so that by next year, we’ll really be ready to roll.

          Then, fire Fox (thanks for making us respectable again! Don’t let the door hit you on the way out), promote the OC, and it’s on.

          This won’t happen though. It’s bold, unbear like.

          • GPLDAN

            “Hi there. My name is Dowell. It rhymes with bowel. I get shit on a lot. It’s cause I’m short, I know.”

            https://suntimesmedia.files.wordpress.com/2016/06/bears_football_61959508.jpg?w=670&h=476

          • willbest

            Then again so was the hiring of Fox. But no. You can’t put Fox’s replacement under him like he is training his H1B replacement. That doesn’t work in the NFL. You have to fire Fox, and that is nonsensical after 1 game. Now maybe if they start 0-5… but so help us if they do that.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Ben McAdoo NYG, Dirk Koetter TB both were OC for teams that had their HC fired and took over. Both won this week. not sure if historically it happens but it did in these cases.

          • willbest

            Did the GM’s in those cases force the firing of the previous OC and demand the HC hire somebody he didn’t want? Or were they cases where the OC demonstrated my ability than the HC that hired them?

          • Big Mike

            You do realize Houston is a better team?

          • I don’t think they were THAT much better.

            Cards on paper were better than Pats.

          • Big Mike

            Better than us. They are a year or two ahead of us. Best D-line we will face this year, with an OL that was playing their first game together.

            Also, what do you think an offense that is going to run the ball more looks like?

          • I thought we def could’ve caught them. Watt was at like 70%. Clowney is like White. Hype wating to break out.
            Wilfork is OLD.
            Mercilus is like Young. A guy who occasionally makes a play.

            Honestly, I’m not that impressed with their Dline/rush. Watt is what makes it go, and in the first half, we did well. Give them credit, in the second, they took advantage our our inexperience by sending stunts and such. Oh well.

            I wanted to see more stretch plays. If we’re going to run Langford, he seems to run in the mold of Forte and Foster. One cut/vision guys. It seemed like Langford thrived in those.

            But now that we have Sitton-Whitehair-Long in the middle (and a 260FB), no reason we can’t do some power runs with Howard/Carey.

            But is this OC flexible enough to add some power runs to play to our personnel? Doubt it.

            I also wouldn’t mind seeing some more misdirection, read-option, PA bootleg.

            In other words, an NFL playbook to keep Ds on their heels.

            But right now our run game looks like beginning Madden where it’s like 6 options and that’s it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Loggains needs more than a week. If Hroniss Grasu and Jordan Howard were in there, we’d be fine.

    • willbest

      I didn’t catch the game but Miami went into Seattle and almost won. I understand the decision to hire Fox after Trestman, and I was a Gase doubter so I can’t really fault George for going the way he did, but I kind of wish the Bears would have gone that route.

    • GPLDAN
    • AlbertInTucson

      … watching Fuller (and other rook WRs around the league) look competent on day one while White looked like he just put on pads for the first time was disheartening.”

      Amen.

  • You know who White resembled? Hester.

    And not the Falcons WR Hester , but the Bears reincarnation.

    • And Fox reinacted Lovie, and Fangio – Babich, and Lane- Tice.

      See, you Lovites – you got your wish. The Lovie regime is back!

      • willbest

        Be fair to Lane, he got the calls in on time.

    • Big Mike

      I’m hoping he’s not on the all dumb team.

  • SC Dave

    Hey guys… look up. The sky is still there!!!

    • EnderWiggin

      Thunderstorms here…

  • In other news, RG3 is down, thus completing the first part of the Darth Sith prophecy.

    “RG3 shall go down.”

    2nd part by the dark one.

    “then, I shall trade the Browns Garrapolo for two first rounders”

    http://www.vintagewings.ca/Portals/0/EmperorBelichick.jpg

    • willbest

      I read this comment and laughed manically for a good 15 seconds.

  • Some guy on the score just called in and suggested we should trade Cutler for Rodgers.

    What the hell is in the water over there in Chicago?

    • willbest

      Its the score, they screen specifically for those kinds of guys

      ed. half the time I think callers just think of stupid shit to say just to hear the score guys mock it.

      • beninnorcal

        That’s why I stopped listening to the score. They purposelly set up the most ignorant fans to get airtime then flog them. I don’t think they want to debate with anyone who may be intelligent.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      better start testing for lead

    • BearDown100393

      The guy was probably George McCaskey.

      • GPLDAN

        ha

  • BearDown100393
    • AlbertInTucson

      Well THAT didn’t take long.

  • SC Dave

    New thread

    • AlbertInTucson

      Thanks.

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