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Across The Middle: Week One

| September 7th, 2016

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How can anyone be sure the Bears were right on both Robbie Gould and Josh Sitton?

Both players were released for the exact same reasons:

  • Age
  • Money
  • Declining skills

The Bears got an up-close look at it with Gould. S0 did the Packers with Sitton.

With Gould, the Bears must think his leg is either dead or going to die before long. There is some evidence to back that up since 9 of his 12 misses over the last three seasons have come after November 1st. Maybe his leg has gotten tired or maybe he isn’t able to cut through the cold wind as well.

But, if they were even considering cutting him, why didn’t they bring competition in? That lack of competition tell us this can’t be based on last season’s performance. Gould made nearly 85 percent of his kicks last year with 9 attempts coming from at least 50 yards away. By comparison, Baltimore’s Justin Tucker was under 83 percent with 10 attempts from 50 yards away. Gould missed the game-winner against San Francisco. Minnesota’s Blair Walsh missed a gimme in a playoff game. Stephen Gostkowski missed an extra point that could’ve put the Patriots in the Super Bowl.

It happens. Teams in cold-weather cities need good kickers and they recognize the value in keeping them.

Ryan Pace said the Bears released Gould because they wanted Connor Barth. Simply a lie. The Bears could’ve had Barth after last season and let him compete with Gould but the truth is Barth hasn’t been anywhere near as good as Gould. I have enjoyed people noting their accuracy without noting where they’ve spent their careers. I have also enjoyed people pointing out how good Barth is from inside of 40 yards, which is really telling me he’s only useful if the Bears’ red zone offense sucks.

Barth missed almost half of his attempts from beyond 40 yards. He was so bad the Buccaneers spent a second round pick on a kicker instead of bringing him back. Remember the 50-yarder in the rain Gould missed that would’ve tied Washington? They couldn’t even consider attempting that with Barth.

The Bears are worse at kicker than they were last year. Maybe they would’ve been even if they had kept Gould, but the veteran at least deserved a shot.

That said, I was happy about the Sitton signing for the same reasons I don’t like the release of Gould. When you have the chance to get a proven stud, you do it and play him until he proves he isn’t a stud.

Sitton’s release may be more of a mystery than Gould’s. Kickers get released all the time but it’s very rare for a stud guard to become available at this point in the season. Add in the fact that cutting Sitton left a dent in the Packers’ locker room and, well, it just doesn’t add up.

Like Gould, Sitton has declined some (as Bob McGinn broke down) but he’s still one of the best in the league. Teams with athletic linebackers were able to take advantage of a relative lack of mobility — we saw Jon Anderson play the game of his life against the Packers on Thanksgiving — but Sitton still finished once he got his hands on the defender.

With Sitton and Long, the Bears have the best guard duo in the league. By midseason, they might have the best interior offensive line in the league. Their tackles should be able to push pass rushers outside every play and it won’t matter because Jay Cutler should be able to step up and deliver, a luxury he’s never had with the Bears.

Growth from White

Deciding which preseason game is the most meaningless is a toss-up, but it was nice seeing Kevin White have success in the fourth preseason game last week.

Preseason success doesn’t mean regular season success will follow but we saw growth, specifically on his 26-yard catch. That catch came on the same route combination we saw a week earlier when White rounded his route off and the ball fell incomplete. This time, he ran a flat route, the throw was on the mark and it was a big play.

All anybody can ask of White at this point is that he learns from his mistakes and keeps improving. This was a small step in the right direction.

Howard Needs Carries

Jordan Howard looks too good to not get some time with the starting offense.

Most of his yards have come playing with and against guys who aren’t on an NFL roster anymore, but he’s shown traits that are worth looking into. I liked Howard before the draft, but I didn’t realize how well he accelerates or how agile he is. I don’t know if he can succeed against starting defenses, but I want to find out and, my guess is, the Bears intend to.

Jacquizz Rodgers was nearly a lock, but that would’ve meant Howard would be inactive every week unless there was an injury because he doesn’t play special teams. The Bears used Rodgers’ roster spot with someone who will pick up the slack on special teams and allow Howard to get at least some carries.

On To Houston

There is a conventional thought that Houston is going to be better this year but, really, how can anyone know?

We don’t know what percentage J.J. Watt is but it’s a safe bet that it’s less than 100. If it’s significantly less than 100 percent, we’ll see a team with a significantly worse defense.

I have never seen Brock Osweiler play and thought he was a starting-caliber quarterback. DeAndre Hopkins is really good, but the rest of their receivers haven’t proven anything and their running game is a mystery.

The first four games of the season are always a crap shoot simply because we don’t know anything about these teams. The Bears can absolutely come out of Houston with a win.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    First to say GET ON at 11/5.

    Start as you mean to go on.

    PAYMENT.

  • SC Dave

    Have to say I pretty much agree entirely, Andrew.

    “Remember the 50-yarder in the rain Gould missed that would’ve tied Washington? They couldn’t even consider attempting that with Barth.”

    The fact that people berate Gould and blame the loss on his on a kick that most guys in the league cannot might make is a testament to how good Robbie was.

    “All anybody can ask of White at this point is that he learns from his mistakes and keeps improving. This was a small step in the right direction.”

    The fans will not have a great deal of patience with him, unless Alshon is running roughshod over the league. He is a #7 pick, and better learn something every game. He had an entire off-season for “mental reps”, for whatever those are worth.

    “Jordan Howard looks too good to not get some time with the starting offense.”

    Since he is a Pox guy, he should get an opportunity. I’m sticking by the prediction that he gets a start by mid-season – let’s say game 10.

    “The Bears can absolutely come out of Houston with a win.”

    They could also be in big trouble if they have another flat start. No downs off. If they play 60 minutes, they very well could put this one in the W column, especially since it’s a road game.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Reasons to berate Gould:
      1. Gould missed TWO field goals against San Francisco. A 36 yard and a 40 yard either of which would have won the game.
      2. the TWO field goals he missed against SD a 34 yard and a 47 yard, fortunately we won that game, by only 3pts.
      3. the 51 yard FG he missed against MINN in a game we lost by 3.
      4. the 50 yard FG he missed against Washington in a game we lost by 3.
      5. The inability to get touchbacks.

      ALL testaments on how Gould was declining. Glad we cut him. It wasn’t ONE game it was a series of misses that got him cut.

      • SC Dave

        I know you were elated by the whole thing.

        Garth has been cut multiple times, by several teams. Does not leave me feeling we got better.

        But as always, only time will tell.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          oh no, a player has been cut by several teams. NEWS FLASH, a lot of players get cut by multiple teams. In fact, Gould was cut by the Pats and Ravens before and was working construction when we signed him. Like you said, only time will tell.

          • MB30SD

            Oooooooooohh….. sizzle!

            (Removes finger quickly from daves shoulder and shakes vigorously in the air while making a wincey face and the “sssssssssssssssssss” noise)

      • MB30SD

        Bing. Go!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Dude, he missed two extra points in one game. This is what got him fired. He shanked one left, and then sent the next one UNDER the bar.

        • MB30SD

          HeDone!!

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          Yep, but since everyone says preseason doesn’t count I decided not to put that in, I kept it to last years exploits.

    • MB30SD

      https://youtu.be/srw3RdiIlrQ

      …And i want to thank Andrew for serving up this amazing silver platter that Dave’s been DYING to recieve for 3 days now. Hahahahaha.

      Love ya maings!

      • SC Dave

        Good video.

        • MB30SD

          one of my favs.

  • GPLDAN

    I think Aikman and Rodgers would make a good couple.

    http://nesn.com/2016/09/fox-nfl-analyst-troy-aikman-rips-foxs-decision-to-hire-skip-bayless/

    #DroptheBeards

    • PaceBot 2000

      haha,
      “To say I’m disappointed in the hiring of Skip Bayless would be an
      enormous understatement,” Aikman said. “Clearly, …Jamie Horowitz and I have a difference of opinion
      when it comes to building a successful organization. I believe success
      is achieved by acquiring and developing talented, respected and credible
      individuals, none of which applies to Skip Bayless.”

      • BearDown100393

        Aikman took the blood money a long time ago when agreeing to work for FOX. This should be no surprise now.

      • MB30SD

        Hahahaha, daaaamn. Shit Shot just got real.

      • MB30SD

        “FOX reportedly gave Bayless a contract worth more than $5 million per year, in addition to a $4 million signing bonus. ”

        Jesus christ… and to think, I’m a complete fucking asshole every day for free. Smh

      • CanadaBear

        Unlike a lot of guys on here I don’t mind Aikman in the booth. Overall, I think he’s fair, which puts him one up on a lot of analysts. Bayless is a total waste of skin.

        • MB30SD

          He’s ok, he just sucks rodger’s dick so hard (NTTAWWT) it’s sickening. Other than that, he’s ok… just a fucking insufferable sycophant at times. yuck.

          • CanadaBear

            That makes him the same as all the rest as far as Erin’s concerned. That got me thinking, have you ever heard any TV Foof say anything negative about Green Bay in the last 2 decades?

          • That’s all Aikmen does is give Vadgers rim jobs.

            He should put that on his resume.

          • MB30SD

            I’m sure it’s already there

            * Spectacular rim jobist
            where certain NFL QBs are concerned… but always open to learning how to get better

  • So the Bears cut Slauson because of a lack of mobility and then signed Sitton, lack of mobility be damned. I get Sitton is better than Slauson, but that still cracks me up. It was literally the only reason anybody could provide for dumping their 2nd best offensive lineman.

    I’m very glad they signed Sitton. Now I hope Whitehair figures it out at C sooner rather than later, because the only job I want to see Ted Larsen doing is getting actual NFL OL guys Gatorade.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t want to see Whitehair figure it out as a starter though. Larsen is way better and can actually snap the ball. Is Sitton straight in over Whitehair at LG?

      • willbest

        You don’t pay a guy $7 million a year to back up your 2nd round pick. Sitton starts at left guard.

    • Great point. I think this year will go a long way to show the talent of Pace and his personnel decisions.

    • Johnnywad

      It makes more sense in the context of timing. Grasu getting injured and half of your free agent linemen retiring necessitated the Sitton deal. Pace was lucky Sitton became available but smart enough to go get him

      • MB30SD

        look at you with all this logic and no emotion. Such a breath of fresh air.

      • Joecashflow

        Big time lucky. The stars aligned a week before the season starts. And don’t agree that Sitton is declining. There has been no evidence of that other than reported back issues.

        • I’m not entirely sure it was luck.

          Back room deals happen ALL the time.

          This was either one of them, or like you say, the stars finally aligned for the Bears.

          Like Garak from DS9 says,

          • Joecashflow

            Well, I’m a big Star trek fan, but I promise you, back room deals do NOT exist between the Bears and Packers. I do hope that we get a healthy 3 years and then maybe more out of our new recruit! Starting out looking good.

    • That made me raise my Spoc eyebrow, and reinforces my belief that it HAD to be something else with Slauson.

      I don’t know if I want Whitehair at C.

      OG seems his natural position. It’s like Long at RT. He can play it in a pinch, but OG is his forte.

      On the other hand, if we can lock in a starter at C for the next decade, that’ll go farther in providing consistency for that whole Oline (OGs are a dime a dozen).

  • I think week 1 against Houston comes down to Lamar Miller. If he has a big day, the Texans win. If the Bears can shut him down and force Osweiler to beat them, I like Chicago’s chances.

    • MB30SD

      I’m going to do the anti data here and sum it up for erraone…

      Fuck houston. Fucking DEAD!

      welcome.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The one thing we showed we can do this off-season is stuff the run.

      Just stack that box and if it’s a pass … blitz.

      Long day for Brock Osweiler …. but if Fangio lets him off the hook and only rushes four all day. Wow.

      • First string run D was thoroughly meh this preseason. But it’s preseason, so take that with a grain of salt.

        On paper, they should be much better situated to stop the run now. We’ll see how that translates to the field.

        • MB30SD

          D is ALL about emotion. looking forward to see them blow some dudes up.

          • CanadaBear

            That’s one of the biggest issues with McPhee being laid up. He brought the emotion and got everyone else jacked up. Nobody else on the team seems to have that same ability.

          • Hopefully Tre and Freeman can bring some juice.

      • That’s not what I saw. I saw teams start running right up the middle after a few crossing routes we can’t defend still.

        Our run D will almost entirely depend on Goldman and Hicks. (And McPhee when he returns)

        Big dudes. If they get knocked back, it’s gonna be a long season.

    • willbest

      Hopkins will shred our gimpy corners if Oz has time to find him.

      • MB30SD

        Stop that.

        Downward trajectory

    • Joecashflow

      That and turnovers. First I heard Foxy say it’s a little too soon to start Sitton, now I hear otherwise. New OL, fumbles, protection assignment issues. I worry about our turnover differential.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Andrew, i’m glad you’re amused how people point out how accurate Barth is from 40 inwards.

    That was the GM of the Bears that said that so I’m glad you’re amused. I am inclined to take Ryan Pace at his word over you. Sorry but I know you understand.

    • MB30SD

      Mmmmmm, jes!

  • willbest

    Its also safe to assume that Long isn’t 100% either. Oz is better than the QB by committee they rolled out in Houston last year. And Houston now has a proper running back in Lamar Miller instead of the always injured Foster. Can the Bears win? Absolutely, but Houston is a better team than the one that made the playoffs last year in their weak ass division.

    As for Gould, the bears protected him quite a number of times by senselessly punting the ball 10 yards. I am not going to look it up, but we bitched about it something fierce every time we watched it happen.

    And we can’t even compare Gould to Tucker. 6 of 7 of Tucker’s misses last year came from 50+ yards away. And the one that was 45 yards away, he missed because the turf gave way when his plant foot came down on it. Oh and one of the 6 was a 67 yarder. Its a testament to Tucker that they would even consider that nonsense over a hail Mary.

    No they weren’t planning on moving on from Gould, but then he stunk it up in camp and the pre-season and so they decided to go with a guy that is money from inside the 40 and just worry about the consequences of 40+. But you are right about Barth. He is a JAG, and they should be looking for the next Gould.

    • MB30SD

      This.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We can draft a kicker in the second round next year. Wait …..

      • 505Bears

        Almost like the fantasy auction draft…

        • willbest

          Who spent $2 for Dan Bailey?

          • PaceBot 2000

            lol, that would be me.

          • 505Bears

            No worries. Had I been drinking, I would have been betting $80 for some player. Though, I did overpay for a few players…d’oh!!

          • 505Bears

            Gostkowski went for $11…soooo, yeah

    • Johnnywad

      Spot on Will.

      Additionally, I am giving Pace every benefit of the doubt. His willingness to cut Robbie, jump on Sitton, let Forte walk, Freeman, Trevathan, et al., means our GM is wearing his big boy pants. He may be wrong on some of these deals, but that comes with the territory. At least he’s working the roster 24/7. Nice change of Pace from the last two.

      • MB30SD

        +52 blog points

        …I see what you did there

        • SC Dave

          You should have gone +53, methinks.

          • MB30SD

            really? Maybe… I think I’m sticking with 52… seems perfect

      • SC Dave

        Normally, one would expect ” let x walk” to apply to a situation in which you offered money, x asked for more, and you said ” see ya”. Not the case with Forte, he was cut.

  • TBC

    No one has confirmed exactly why sitton was cut, but it wasn’t exclusively for those three reasons.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    The writing was on the wall with Gould. Sad to see a guy go that did a lot for the team overall, but there is something not right with Robby, So I’m not surprised.

    Sitton was a good move considering the O-line needs help.

    Houston 17
    Bears 21

    Defense will rise to the occasion. The O-line will get it done, it will be ugly at first but they will prevail.

  • GPLDAN

    Jesus Goff

    6 picks for him and they won’t even dress him for the opener. This weeks Hard Knocks should be a hoot

    • MB30SD

      Off to a strong start

    • BearDown100393

      Grossman Deux

  • GPLDAN

    In the last episode of Hard Knocks, I just read that Kush hands out t-shirts to his line mates that say

    “Block your fucking dick off!”

    The kid wants to be a locker room leader.

  • MB30SD

    http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/06/entertainment/chevy-chase-rehab/index.html

    damn, are you sure it’s not a “hamburger” related addiction? Get better Erwin M.

    • GPLDAN

      my understanding is that Chevy was considered the biggest ahole in Hollywood for many years.

      • CanadaBear

        Don’t know about that but you could find someone funnier at any local comedy club. My favorite clip of him was on Johnny Carson when Gallagher was hitting it big. After Gallagher did his bit he’s sitting at the desk with Johnny and they’re having some laughs. Chase chimes in a few times trying to steal the spotlight but it doesn’t work and Gallagher shreds him a couple of times. Finally Chase acts all magnanimous and serious and says, “For the record, I think you’re one of best up and coming comedians”. Gallagher turns around and says, “For the record, who cares?” The crowd went nuts, Chase started looking for change in the couch and Johnny went to commercial.

        • BearDown100393
        • MB30SD

          yeah, but man… fletch is still in my top 5 man. I’ve spend much of my misguided adulthood quoting that movie.

          • CanadaBear

            Not saying that he can’t be funny but everything has to be right. When he’s not funny (at least for me that’s most of the time) he’s really not funny.

          • willbest

            When is he funny on his own though? If you had stuck Robin Williams (RIP) and Billy Crystal in a white padded room for 10 hours, you could have filmed it, diced it up into 22 minute segments, and aired it as a season.

            Now obviously Chevy had some initial skills or he wouldn’t have gotten anywhere, but he has been on autopilot a good long while.

          • CanadaBear

            Couldn’t agree more.

      • I heard that when someone was writing a book about SNL, the writer just kept asking all the actors, “So, who is the worst to work with?” as a joke, and almost unanimously it was Chevy.

        I think he ended up writing a whole chapter on Chevy based on that which he originally didn’t plan.

  • MB30SD
  • GPLDAN
    • MB30SD

      why not?! Bring in the stork too? fuggit… let’s throw them all in a pile and let them sort it all out.

      10 men enter, 5 men leave?

      • 505Bears

        Sounds like the Purge, but for the starting Oline

        • MB30SD

          welcome to the thunder dome bitches!

          (you must be young)

  • GPLDAN

    WCG has Cutler prop bets:

    Jay Cutler Total Passing Yards in the 2015 Regular Season
    Over/Under – 3,600

    Jay Cutler – Total TD Passes in the 2016 Regular Season
    Over/Under – 20.5

    Jay Cutler – Total Interceptions in the 2016 Regular Season
    Over/Under – 13.5

    • willbest

      Under, Over, Over.

      • Bender McLugh

        Over on INTs? you high

        • willbest

          Cutler’s average INT is 17, and you want me to bet that he significantly beats his average 2 years in a row?

          • Bender McLugh

            I think he’ll go under 13.5, which I don’t consider “significantly beat(ing) his average”. But that’s me, definitely glass-half-full

    • BearDown100393

      Over, Over, Under

    • beninnorcal

      The only one I’d take for sure is the over on TD’s. I think he throws 25.

    • Big Mike

      Under, Over, Under is my bet. Bears will pass less. Fewer cheap yards, playing with the lead more often, not down 2-3-4 scores.
      Big Mike out
      BTFD

      • That Guy

        Dunno, productive offenses put up more than 3600 passing yards in this league. If they’re up by 2-3 scores that often, he’ll get the over.

        But I tend to agree with your assessment. Under, Over, Under.

        Though, losing Forte and Bennett will hurt the TD passes.

    • willbest

      For points of reference. Cutler’s career per game

      INT rate is 1.05
      TD rate is 1.59 (including rushing TDs)
      Yards is 234

      So assuming average Cutler played an entire season
      3744 yards
      26 TDs (including rushing)
      17 INTs

      Under Fox last year in 15 games it was
      3659 yards
      22 TDs (including rushing)
      11 INTs

  • MB30SD
    • 505Bears

      Too many chimichangas last night?

      • MB30SD

        seems so

  • 505Bears

    Think there will be lots of Bears fans in Houston like there are in Dallas?

  • beninnorcal

    I’m not as optimistic as others, like AD, about the Texans game. I’m prepared for some disappointment against a really good defense on the road. I also won’t go all chicken-little when that happens though. Sorry to pee in everyone’s cheerios.

    • PaceBot 2000

      I like pee. I’m part German.

      • GPLDAN

        Waffle likes it when they call them Scat Backs.

      • MB30SD

        SCHNELL! SCHELL!!!

    • 505Bears

      And on what day do you kick puppies?

    • GPLDAN

      I have it 35-13 Texans.

      I didn’t see enough rush in PS to think they can make Osweiler uncomfortable. Fuller can SMOKE and Hopkins may be the best wideout in the NFL nobody cares about. Our secondary is made up of guys who look like they should be bellhops at the Detroit MGM.

      I can see us getting torched deep early and often. But I don’t think Miller will be able to run.

      • BearDown100393

        45-0 Bears

      • Big Mike

        Geez.. debbie downer.

        • GPLDAN

          Don’t we have enough homers?

          All I have to go on is PS. And we either tanked PS or the team isn’t very good.

          I will be happy to come back here next week and eat crow.

          • CanadaBear

            I got your back Jack! I’m in the exact same place. Until I see some wins I remain dubious. I’m OK with all the changes in the last 2 years because the Bears weren’t going anywhere and were old as hell. Lots of people on here have been doing the happy dance over Gould, Forte, Bennett getting launched. All I’ve got to say is careful what you wish for because none of their replacements look like upgrades for this season.

          • Big Mike

            Boooo

          • CanadaBear

            I know, I know, it’s in my DNA to doubt the establishment and a lot of what the Bears have been selling isn’t very convincing if you aren’t totally buying in. Trust me, if they give me anything to get excited about I’ll be just as happy as anyone on here.

          • Big Mike

            They are selling deception and half truths to the media. I don’t know why people don’t catch on to that.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            lost it, about to lose it, to crazy to ever have it. thank god they are gone.

          • CanadaBear

            Just keep in mind all the shots and trash you dropped at Robbie’s doorstep will end up on your doorstep if the new kicker sucks worse than Robbie. Just sayin’.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            I am fine with that. New guy may suck too, but it was time to move on.

          • CanadaBear

            I agree about the moving on part.

          • MB30SD

            totally agree

          • I’m not in love with Gould’s replacement. I said from the start we should have competition at K and P, but fuck it.

            But all the other moves we made I get the reasons.

            Heck, even letting go of Slauson in retrospect turned up cherries for us.

            (I seriously doubt we get Sitton with Slauson still here)

          • Big Mike

            F$#k kickers anyhow.

          • Big Mike

            A 22 point loss, is a huge loss. Going into the season opener projecting a 22 point loss in the first game is a total breakdown in your confidence. I am going to prescribe intravenous kool aid starting 24 hours before kickoff.

          • GPLDAN

            Foxy will do everything with Fangio to play it close. Make it about TOP.

            But the mental breakdowns. Porter is concussed. Hall has long arms, they keep saying how long his arms are. His dick might be 11″ as well, it don’t mean shit if he’s fooled by every break.

            Hopkins is wicked.

            If Houston or Young can injure or spook Osweiler early and we can get a run game against Watt and Mericless, then ok. Then maybe a TOP game. But I saw nothing from the secondary in the post season that made me hopeful. Except against Cleveland, but that’s bullshit game.

          • Big Mike

            Their offense isn’t shit. Fangio beat the Packers in GB with the JV. Who from the defensive side of the ball that played in that game is better than who we are brining out. McPhee, that’s it, but we are 3 edge rushers deep. Our D-line is for real and we have actual linebackers.

          • Did we lose ANY game by 21 or more last season?

            And we rostered a bunch of muppets!

            Aslo, GP is forgetting, we win more on the road!

          • Big Mike

            That’s my point. I’m reasonably hopeful for a win on the road against a playoff team. I’m realistic that Houston should be favored. But there are a lot of ways the Bears can beat the Texans.

          • MB30SD

            EAT IT!!

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Eye have it 7-11 Bears. I don’t “see” the game going that way at all.

        • GPLDAN

          A LOTR joke?

          You get 45 blog points for having a LOTR joke on a sports blog.

          • MB30SD

            aaaaaand, -45 blog points for being a huge nerd.

          • SC Dave

            So a clean salate for the new guy? More generous than usual, MB 🙂

          • MB30SD

            indeed dave! I seem to be getting soft (in more ways that one) in my old age my maings.

      • Hopkins, ODB and Julio Jones are the top WRs, IMO.

        Hopkins got like 110 catches and 1500 yds last year with 3 different QBs who are now working at Chipotle.

        That’s the reason I drafted him in FF. He seems fool proof.

        ODB and Julio are great too, but they’re in high flying offenses with good QBs. Same with Antonio Brown.

  • willbest

    In order to prevent a conflict of interest with its purchased candidate, Hillary Clinton, Goldman Sachs now prohibits its partners from donating to Trump.

    http://money.cnn.com/2016/09/06/investing/goldman-sachs-political-donations/index.html

    I don’t really want to like the guy, but he keeps making all the right enemies.

    • BearDown100393

      Turd Sandwich. Giant Douche. No winners here.

      • SC Dave

        That’s not the point. The point is the obvious attempt to buy influence from Clinton. And as we’ve seen she will deliver.

        • Bender McLugh

          curious, Dave, what has she previously delivered?

          • willbest

            http://money.cnn.com/2016/08/23/news/clinton-laureate-university/

            Is the one cycling recently. The e-mail dump a few weeks ago showed she sold diplomatic passports and visas. There are multiple instances where Bill Clinton was getting hundreds of thousands in speaking fees from people with business before Hillary at state. The Clinton foundation was also cleaning up in this as well. The Clinton foundation has also awarded contracts to its donors.

            Really just following zerohedge regulary in addition to convincing you that financial Armageddon is 3 days away, will treat you to more corruption from your political and financial masters than you can stomach.

          • MB30SD

            only the clintons do this?!?! That’s shocking that they’re the only ones?

            Man, I sure am glad that all the bush’ did will send thousands of our young men and women to slaughter for nothing! YeeeeHaww!

            (I know I’m layin it on a little thick lately my man ((dave)), but it’s all in jest. I sill loves you)

          • willbest

            Hillary is demanding war with Russia over her e-mail, and was going on a deranged rant about how Trump is a Putin puppet before a prolonged coughing fit ended her press conference.

          • MB30SD

            again, how many american youth did she kill in that endeavor?

          • MB30SD

            look man, all these motherfuckers are schiester megalomaniac criminals… but I have to compare one to the other.

          • willbest

            That is fine, but Trump doesn’t plan on killing any American youth, and she is running around saying Russia’s gotta pay.

          • No one PLANS on sending American youths to their deaths, but funny how it always works out that way.

            What happens if Russia invades Ukraine. Trump invade Russia?

            (Oh, wait…)

          • willbest

            Russia can’t afford to invade Ukraine, it doesn’t have the resources, even it it has the Military strength. And the Ukraine isn’t some giant pot of gold. They are losing hundreds of millions a month on that endeavor. That might be nothing for the US and our 17 trillion dollar economy, but the Russian economy is 1/5th the size of ours.

          • GPLDAN

            much easier to prop up a pro-Putin regime instead of occupation.

          • willbest

            Its been a few years so I would need to brush up, but my understanding was a Ukrainian president who was sympathetic to Putin was elected (presumably with Russian influence), and our CIA caused a civil war.

          • MB30SD

            how do you know?

          • willbest

            Hillary told me. Trump is Putin’s puppet and she wants to punish Russia for embarrassing her. I mean if I can’t trust Hillary, who can I trust.

          • MB30SD

            sigh

            we have a word for what you’re slangin son.

            Pro. Pah. Uganda.

          • willbest

            How many is she planning to kill should be the more pertinent question.

          • MB30SD

            Ohhhhh, so she WILL kill…. oh, ok. Guilty as charged!

            As opposed to have and did and done killed thousands. Got it.

          • willbest

            I am sorry, how did she vote on those military engagements? What smart diplomacy did she do at State that defused tense situations without bloodshed?

          • willbest

            Also what the hell? Why are you talking about Bush. The family isn’t on the ticket. The family shuns the ticket. And their donors are funding Clinton.

          • MB30SD

            you want to make them sound so horrible, so I basically just compare them to the most evil and disgusting regime from recent history.

            You can parade ol Gdubbya out there as a fucking moron who just got played by daddy lucifer and his halli buddies, but man. how that whole contingent didn’t wind up in jail or hunged in public is a fucking farse for what they perpetrated. yeesh

          • GPLDAN

            New FF team name: Daddy Lucifer

            We run onto the field playing this:

          • MB30SD

            nice!

            …then shoot someone in the face?

          • GPLDAN

            bang bang bitch

          • willbest

            Goldman Sachs? They are horrible. But you keep bringing up Bush any time somebody attacks Clinton as if somehow the Bush family is relevant to 2017.

          • MB30SD

            again, they’re ALL terrible, I just have to have a measuring stick and I choose sending thousands of our youth to be killed by people who couldn’t give a rat’s ass about religious idiology… all to make billions for my buddies (and you can choose which here, or pick both, the haliburton’s of the world or the royal family).

            Erraone needs to pick their litmus right?

            So wake me when anyone HAS done the same or worse.

          • #Haliburton

          • MB30SD

            jeeeup

          • Bender McLugh

            gotchya, this I already knew, was just curious what other pay for play has been uncovered. It can be argued the visas & passports were not pay for play too, but that seems like dabbling in semantics to me.

    • GPLDAN

      Hissssss hissss, says the Vampire Squid. Draining all wealth from the dark markets and finding the greater fool.

    • SC Dave

      This fraud is so transparent. I wonder how many laws G-S is violating with this charade.

      • willbest

        Probably none. They have the best lobbyist and lawyers.

        On its face, the ban is neutral (don’t donate to anybody in state or local elections, or those that are elected at the state or local levels). So you are stuck arguing the intent, which is always the harder sell.

        But its patently nonsensical as a ban. Goldman Sachs is almost exclusively regulated by the Federal Government (except its real estate holdings). If it were at all interested in prohibiting the appearance of pay to play it would be locking itself out of anything to do with Federal politics, not state politics.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      It’s time to drop the political football, the season is nigh. Snap out of it man!

      See what I did there?

      • MB30SD

        snap… get it? snap???

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    “Jordan Howard looks too good to not get some time with the starting offense”. at first sight of Langford´s weakness, we´ll see 10 years of Howard leading the backfield.

  • willbest

    I don’t know why my kids’ school feels a need to send an e-mail every week that somebody has strep. Everybody knows that when you put 500 people under the age of 10 under one roof you are asking for disease to spread like wildfire.

    • MB30SD

      man, it already started with mine.

      all 3 months of summer were total sick-less bliss… literally the second day of school, both of mine were sick again (and of course the ex and I too). And only 10 more months of this… fuck my life.

  • Jim

    Are you overlooking the money issue with Gould vs. Barth? I don’t know the exact numbers, but Gould was one of highest-paid kickers in the league. With Barth, they get a guy who’s maybe as good or slightly less good, but a lot cheaper, no? In any case, I’m just happy to see Pace isn’t making moves out of sentimentality (a lot of fans seem to think holding onto their favorite players forever is a smart way to run a team).

    • I think the Bears saved $2M in cap, which can buy some vets.

      This is why I wanted to draft a K in the 6th this year. But again, what do I know…

      • MB30SD

        xbox

    • willbest

      If it were specifically a money issue they would have fired him in Jan, and had 4 legs in camp competing. So we know that wasn’t the case.

      Its pretty obvious that up until they saw the cut list from around the league on Saturday they intended to run with Gould. They presumably kept his preferred long snapper, which is why the other news on Sunday was that they called the LS Scales they had just fired and told him to drive his ass back up to Chicago (from Kentucky).

    • MB30SD

      by, “a lot of fans” you mean dave, don’t you jim?

    • SC Dave

      Pace does not have anyone to keep out of sentimentality. When it’s his guys, we’ll see if the tune changes.

      • willbest

        Fabuluje is gone, and the Sitton signing put Grasu in a fight for a roster spot next season, and he canned Rolle. We only have 1 off-season, but he doesn’t appear to have a problem moving on from his guys.

        ed. Khari Lee another one.

        • MB30SD

          Boom!

          It’s all about BID…. NIZ!

          And we should all be fucking celebrating in the streets… after we win the SB this year that is.

    • Joecashflow

      Setting aside whether they could prioritize drafting a kicker with all the other obvious holes to fill, they cut Gould when they did, because they felt a kicker became available that was better and they knew they had a weakness, based upon his PS misses plus last year. So it was an upgrade issue but money always helps too, when they are signing two huge guard LT deals.

  • MB30SD

    I swear to fucking god, I’m changing my handle to “Crow Distributor” come monday motherfuckers!

    We’re about to put the entire fucking NFL on warning.

    Which onea you motherfuckers is first in line?!?! Come get some pipin’ hot Crow bitches!

    • Agree.

      53 to 9, MMM Bears

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      MB30SD Storm Crow? I’ll be there to help. Nobody picks against the Bears in the season opener and lives. Too much?

      • MB30SD

        just right

  • Oh, Garret Grayson available. I say dump Barkley and pick him up. He was on my QB radar.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/07/saints-release-quarterback-garrett-grayson/

  • RG3 named captain in Cleveland.

    I hope he lights the league up with a big middle finger to those rat-asses Shannihans.

    They’re all a bunch weasels.

    • GPLDAN

      nepotistic weasels

    • willbest

      He emo’d out there for a bit there though. He could have taken it better, but he is young, so I would like to see him bounce back.

      • What Shannihan did to him is beyond belief. He makes Kromer look like Cutler’s best friend.

        The owner stuck Shanny with RG3 who he never wanted. That’s not a good start (see Fisher and Vince Young).

        Then Shanny did everything in his power to sabotage RG3 to prove he was right.

        Now, I’m not saying RG3 is the 2nd coming of Steve Young, but dude try to play on one leg while Shanny was just laughing.

        I’m pulling for him. He’s got skills. And I’m curious to see if the light turns on for him.

        • Bender McLugh

          is he still claiming to be the best QB in the league? Cutting that shit out is a good start.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, I was never really a fan. Never heard good stuff from his locker room.

          • that’s ALL QBs.

            .” QBs are overpaid, overrated, pompous bastards and must be punished.” – Buddy

  • GPLDAN

    In Gleason, when Steve Gleason’s ALS really takes hold, and he loses his ability to speak and you can really see it beginning to kill him – and when Pearl Jam’s Given to Fly comes up on the soundtrack – when he says to his son that he will fight to stay alive until the boy can walk – it’s tough. It’s pretty tough to make it through.

  • MB30SD

    My new FF name…

    Antonio’s Dojo

    • GPLDAN

      I’ve switched mine to:
      AP is a Switch Hitter

      • MB30SD

        ohhhhhh, goooood one!

        +451 blog points.

        (dave, that a good number?)

        • SC Dave

          On fire, my man!

  • Around the league…

    Very curious how Garrapolo is going to handle his trade-bait 4 game audition.

    I believe both Carr and Cousins will take their game to the next level.

    I don’t believe in Bortles. Dunno why, just a gut feeling.

    This is the year Mack daddy becomes legend.

    Colts are gonna implode, and Luck will be viewed as Cutler Jr. from now on.

    Falcons (future Colts) will also implode

    Cards will post best record as Palmer is on a mission.

    Jim Caldwell will be first HC canned.

    Bears make final Wild Card

    • BearDown100393

      Maybe not the first, but Grimus gets canned by the Cheese.

  • willbest

    Drew Brees signed a 1 year contract extension that will pay him $24.25 million next year. That plus his $20 million salary this year is the entire contract and is guaranteed. The move will provide the Saints with cap room they need this year.

    • willbest

      Somebody else is saying it is a 5-year extension with $44.5 million guaranteed. Anyway, a deal got done.

    • willbest

      More reports. Its a 5-year deal, is automatically voided in 2 years, has a no-trade clause and all this gaming reduces his cap hit this year from $30 million to $17.25 million.

    • MB30SD

      damn gina!

      Good work if you can get it.

    • BerwynBomber

      Saints finally make a smart financial move and I assume Breezy took one for the team, so to speak.

      Anyway, NO still seem like a bit of a mess but this deal seems like a smart one for both sides. I will admit to a bit of QB crush on Brees (have always enjoyed watching him play even dating back to his Boilermaker days), but I wouldn’t want to sign him to four years guaranteed at his age. And NO avoided that.

  • Texans are missing Duane Brown (LT) and their starting C (I think).

    If we can’t generate pressure on their makeshift Oline, then it’s gonna be a looong season.

  • BillW

    Been gone all off season and I figured I’d wait to see what week 1 brought before deciding if I’d join in. I’ve been lurking over the preseason but frankly had nothing to add that was worth anything. But I did run across something (see below) that I though I’d share.

    Two jobs; three grandchildren now; I keep very busy and I have to say I’m very ignorant in the literal sense of the word regarding the 2016 Bears. I love reading the opinions of you guys – as always.

    It feels like they are a year away from serious playoff contention. That’s just a feeling – based on almost nothing. But the Sitton signing tells me they are committed to do what it takes without being stupid about it. A pro bowl guard is suddenly available – sign him. Need an eventual replacement and/or viable backup for Jay – but nothing makes sense right now – pass on it. It won’t cost them the Super Bowl this year.

    Same with kicker. Maybe they simply didn’t trust Robbie. Barth will miss some bad weather kicks most likely – but again won’t cost us the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl kicker is still in college, like Butthead was in 1984.

    Finally – being a stat-head, I give you Nate Silver’s predictions. 25th – with a 7-9 record and 21% chance of making the playoffs. Feels right today – hopefully will go up as the year goes on.

    http://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/2016-nfl-predictions/

    Carry on…

    • Big Mike

      Congrats on your discipline. I tried to stay away, but the allure of the beloved was too much.

  • Big Mike

    Looking at this, how the F*$K are we ranked in the bottom of the league? It’s a comparison of last year’s starters to this years.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-blitz-package-jay-cutler-changes-20160907-story.html

    • BillW

      I would venture to say that fans should draw conclusions from preseason rankings about the same level as they should for preseason games.

      That said, I think nationally the Bears don’t feel like they got better. They did – but there is no identity yet. Five or more sacks Sunday will change that in a hurry.

    • willbest

      But if you aren’t ranked low you can’t take smug satisfaction when your team annihilates a playoff team 35-3 and jumps 16 spots in the power rankings.

      • MB30SD

        yes will, yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeees!

      • Big Mike

        Boo yaaaa

        Sent from Gmail on my iPhone

      • Big Mike

        🙂

  • CanadaBear

    As much as I can tell about Fangio, is he is brutally honest. Here’s some tough love for Leonard Floyd.

    http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17488557/leonard-floyd-chicago-bears-had-choppy-inconsistent-camp-vic-fangio-says

    • MB30SD

      pull your head out of your ass kid. Time to fucking grab your lunchbox and go to work.

      • 505Bears

        He probably has a sweet Scooby Doo lunchbox with the thermos.

        • willbest

          I know a guy that takes his lunch to work in a Flintstones lunchbox. The guy is a rocket scientist. I mean that literally, he shoots stuff into space for a living.

          • MB30SD

            awesome.

            Wish I was smart enough to carry a flintstones lunchbox. ;_ (

          • SC Dave

            This!

    • BearDown100393

      “I don’t feel much pressure at all. Because I know me, and I’ll go out
      there and give it the best I can, and that’s all I can do.”

      Not much pressure? Uh this is the NFL.

      • willbest

        I am sure when you were a crack shot at handling the press in a major media market when you were 23

        • BearDown100393

          I listened to Crash Davis.

    • GPLDAN

      220? 221? Whatever it takes?

      http://tinyurl.com/zma3pp4

      come on, dude needs a sammich. Fast is fast, but leverage needs power

  • BerwynBomber

    A moratorium needs to be placed on these pre-season power rankings. Someone posted one yesterday (from Yahoo Sports, I believe) that had the Cheese as #2 in the entire league. The fucking Cheese??? They barely have enough guys to dress for their D-Line, they only have one dependable O-lineman starting the season (well, two if you count Baktiari), and their ILBs look like ours last year. Yeah, I know, Rodgers. And I get his brilliance and how he usually carries them as far as they can go.
    But #2 in the league??? Fuck, I count three teams in the NFC alone that are better than the Cheese (SEA, CAR and AZ).
    Oh, and some other guy paid for his opinions had Brady as the tenth best QB in the league. Huh? Personal note: I detest Brady and think he lied and cheated about the Deflategate stuff. But how the fuck he is not considered the best QB in the league or (AT LEAST) top five is beyond me.
    Anyway, end of rant.

    • AlbertInTucson

      As I posted yesterday, Elliott (I never heard of him) Harrison’s (NFL Network) had them 4th in the league, behind 3 other NFC squads: Panthers, Cards, Seahawks.

      Bears at 30 just above the 49ers and Browns.

      Brady 10th? SMH.

      • BerwynBomber

        The Bears at 30th is as dumb as the Cheese at #2.

        • AlbertInTucson

          No argument here.

  • MB30SD

    hey will, at least you have to admit, hillary’s got some nice boobies: http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnnnext/dam/assets/160803093028-australian-artist-clinton-mural-super-169.jpg

  • BerwynBomber

    I wouldn’t expect much more than 80% Watt most of the season. He had serious core injuries, which from what I heard are even worse than serious knee injuries at the pro level.

    80% Watt is still handful but doubtful we see that dude at his best for awhile.

    • CanadaBear

      Let’s hope!

  • AlbertInTucson

    Happy Trails Hugh O’Brien, who rode off into the sunset yesterday at 91.

    “Wyatt Earp, Wyatt Earp, brave courageous and bold…

    Loved this show as a kid, even before I realized it followed Earp’s career from Ellsworth, to Wichita to Dodge City to Tombstone.

  • So Hoge posted this on twitter.

    Vic Fangio on Leonard Floyd: “I don’t think he’s in the greatest condition right now. ”

    https://twitter.com/AdamHoge/status/773594938298736645

    And if you scroll down, a certain Butch comments.

    “Funny. With all that spinning in place, you’d think Floyd would have good cardio.”

    I hope Floyd reads it. I really do.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sigh. Disappointing bit of news.

    • SC Dave

      I hope Floyd is smart enough to stay off twitter entirely.

      • Floyd responded that he didn’t think Fangio was ‘riding’ him.

        Hey, Fangio, you want someone to ride him all season? I volunteer!

        I can talk shit to him everyday until I end up on Yonny’s Chi murder count.

        “It was reported that Butch’s last words were, “Floyd, you’re so skinny, you make Lamar from Revenge of the Nerds look masculine!”

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      You gotta hope that’s a smoke screen but the dude did leave practice in training camp on a golf cart without any broken bones or torn ligaments. I think his tummy was hurting. I’m gonna be some kinda upset if he’s not a contributor this season.

      http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000677349/article/leonard-floyd-exits-bears-practice-due-to-sickness

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  • BerwynBomber

    “DeAndre Hopkins is really good, but the rest of their receivers haven’t proven anything and their running game is a mystery.”

    Lamarr Miller is their RB, right? He’s pretty tough. Not much of a mystery.

    Bears should also keep an eye on rookie Braxton Miller. Got the impression HOU was using him pretty effectively in the preseason.

    • They also have Fuller, who may or may not being nursing a hamstring.

      Doesn’t really matter though. You can run a drag or cross route and get 8 yds on our D every time.

      Wouldn’t be surprised if Hopkins blows up for 150

      • AlbertInTucson

        Hopkins was my 3rd pick in my FF draft. He’s in my lineup for Sunday.

        • willbest

          I have both him and miller. I am hoping I have to rely on Maclin and CJ Anderson. I would love to rely on big Ben but I am facing Antonio brown this week

          How did he make it to round 3? Is it a 2 QB league?

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s a buzzkiller when your opponent has your QB’s #1 target.

          • Johnnywad

            That’s precisely why I don’t play. Watching my son watch Bears games while his FF players take the field for the opponent at times is priceless.

            He has Hopkins as well. So all he needs is Hopkins to have a career day, and somehow the Bears still win.

            I’ll never put myself in that hand basket.

          • But it happens a lot. When the Bears go up by 60, Hopkins can reach 200 yds in junk time.

            In someways, if Hopkins has a bad game, that’s not good for the Bears cuz that means they’re up and just running it down our throats.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I enjoy being in he one, incedibly nasic league.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Only 8 teams and tight ends are included with receivers

        • Hopkins was #1 on my board. I didn’t mind paying $50 for him.

          He’s just so consistent. Julio Jones is always hurt for some reason, while ODB and Antonio Brown will be cool, but I like Hopkins more.

          • willbest

            I took Hopkins 8th overall in a 1/2 point ppr, and felt really good about getting him there. I would have drafted him as high as 5th (Brown, ODB, Gurley, and Jones were the only guys I had higher).

          • AlbertInTucson

            That he and Antonio Brown basically didn’t miss a beat despite changes at QB said a lot to me.

      • Johnnywad

        Not on this D. Good luck with that shallow cross.

        • willbest

          They were getting beat by them in the preseason.

          • Johnnywad

            Makes you wonder why they’ll even suit up Sunday.

          • Keep an eyed on Freeman covering. Diff teams were picking on him in the pass game. That’s part of the reason we couldn’t get off the field on 3rd down.

          • Johnnywad

            I’ll take your word for it. But I am expecting this D to be damn good in the run game and short passing game. I will be very surprised and disappointed Sunday if that isn’t the case.

          • willbest

            Because we have #6 and this is his year. 5500 yards 47 TDs, 3 INTs, and 7 TDs on the ground.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Those be Steakhouse numbers

  • AlbertInTucson

    Local guy showing COMPLETE ignorance.

    “I think the Bears will be one of the 5 worst teams.”

    He also thought Howard has a chance to start over Langford,

    Clueless.

    • SC Dave

      On the second point, if he’s talking about this week, yeah, clueless. If he’s talking about over the course of the season, I wouldn’t say so.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball
    • SC Dave

      Those people on the second blog sure enjoy stupid .sigs on their posts. Yeesh.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Good eye…hee hee

        • SC Dave

          And there were zero comments on the first blog. Things are a little different around here.

  • I think we’re power-ranked so low cuz of our secondary and McPhee being out.

    I read somewhere that both Porter and Fuller are ailing, and even when they’re healthy, they suck.
    Plus, McPhee , the best pass rusher, is out till week 6 or something.

    So I guess at face value I can understand the consternation (not to mention a new OC), but I would argue that Young is our best pass rusher, and if Porter and Fuller suck so much, then we won’t miss them if they’re out as Fangio has repeatedly proven he can squeeze competent play from subpar secondaries.

    Also, Goldman, Hicks and Freeman/Tre are ready to roll.

    And we now have a top 3 OG tandem that might be nigh unstoppable when Unrein comes in at FB.

    And we won’t have Bellamy and Mariani running routes for Cutty!

    Drink the Koolaid.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Is it an indictment on today’s NFL that it’s so hard to build a deep roster or are we just shell shocked as Bears fans?

      • Very few teams are really deep.

        Like the Pats lost Brady, Ninkovich and Chandler Jones.

        Who replaces them? Whoever they are, they won’t be as good.

        I think the bigger key to success in the modern NFL is good coaching that can grind it out with backups if necessary.

        Very few teams are stacked.

        I think perhaps the Panther and Cards are the deepest talent wise, but even then, if the Panthers lose an Olinemen or two, or if the Cards lose Palmer, then it’s going to be a lot harder to win.

        Those are “window” teams though, teams that are all-in for a SB. We’re not quite there yet.

        Last time we were there might’ve been 06 or 10.

  • BuddhaJoe

    It’s hard what to think about the first game. Houston made the playoffs but they’re also overrated. They’ve got probably the best defensive player in league and a couple other pieces on both sides of the ball, but they have a lot of holes too. I think if the Bears keep it competitive the whole game I’ll be happy, win or lose. I want them to win, but as long as they don’t shit the bed and keep it close I won’t jump off the bridge.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball
    • willbest

      It really is hard to win non-conference road games against above .500 teams. Now obviously there isn’t a point of reference for this season, but making the playoffs last year indicates that they are reasonably talented.

      • BuddhaJoe

        We also were very close to beating Brock last year when he was on a far better team, so its an very winnable game.

      • When was the last time the Bears beat a non-conference playoff team on the road?

        Larry Mayer, Bueller?

        • willbest

          2015 Chiefs. Didn’t say it couldn’t be done. Its just hard.

          • And that was under Trestman.

            So, never know.

          • willbest

            huh? that was last year.

          • oh shoot. Ur right. I saw a diff year for some reason.

            Either way, the Chiefs were as good as the Texans last year, and we were less talented.

          • willbest

            Well we only won because they lost Jammal Charles and Cutler pulled one out of his ass. Probably the best high from last year. Though the Oakland game where somehow the Bears were the only team to shut down Amari Cooper was up there.

          • The Chiefs have two other great runners though in Ware and West.

            When Charles went down, they pretty much equaled Charles’ stats.

          • willbest

            Oh silly me, how did I forget Thanksgiving. I know… it transcended 2015 to be in the pantheon of all-time greatness.

          • SC Dave

            Saved me from pointing that out!

    • BearDown100393

      Von Miller is the best defensive player in the league.

      • willbest

        Maybe, but I haven’t seen him chop wood in a forest wearing his NFL uniform so I wouldn’t know.

      • BuddhaJoe

        You think so? I think Watt is kind of a douche but he does what he does with very little around him. Miller had Ware and Jackson on the line, plus guys like Trevathan, Talib, and Marshall backing him up. Miller’s awesome but I’m not sure about that. (Go Trevathan).

        • BearDown100393

          Right now, yeah I do. Watt is also going to play somewhat injured (at least not 100%) and IMHO that is the difference maker.

          • BuddhaJoe

            I can buy that, but 100% Watt vs. 100% Miller?

          • BearDown100393

            Shoot that’s tough. I’ll phrase it this way. If Watt at 100% plays at the level he was at at before injury, I’d take him. If that point has eclipsed, than yeah I go with Miller.

          • BuddhaJoe

            I will accept that answer (as if I’m Alex Trebek or something).

          • I think Miller right now is better.

            His burst is otherworldly. Taylor-esque.

          • SC Dave

            JJ Watt had 6.5 more sacks, defensed 7 more passes, and made 27 more tackles than Miller. Miller did manage to force 1 more fumble (4 to 3).

      • SC Dave

        Watt at full capacity is the best player in the NFL, period. Von Miller *might* be #3 defensively – I’d take Luke over him without a second thought.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          BRAVERMAN!!!!!! His greatness is just misunderstood at the moment!

        • Bender McLugh

          Holy fuck, 45 PD as a defensive end????

    • willbest

      Was the article written before Monday?

      • Supposedly updated today.
        I don’t get PFF’s Oline criteria.

        • CanadaBear

          Sometimes you’re looking so hard you miss the obvious. They’re full of shit.

        • Big Mike

          They are the one service that tries to evaluate each play of every linemen. For the Bears, they have nothing to go on, because every one except Leno is in a new spot. We have 2 all pro guards. How can we be near the bottom? It’s horse shit.

    • BearDown100393

      This is very weird. A primarily positive review of the Bears O-line and listed as one of the league’s worst.

      • yeah, I don’t get it either. Massie was the only negative. Whitehair is an unknown. They said nothing about Leno.

        No way we’re 30th.

    • SC Dave

      “…PFF…”

      ’nuff said

    • Bender McLugh

      Crow to be served….

    • BerwynBomber

      Ridiculous.

    • AlbertInTucson

      A ranking inspired by an losing All-Pro Guard or the 47 sacks they surrendered last season?

    • Big Mike

      Aaron Rodgers plays behind that line so PFF ranks them high.

  • GPLDAN

    Clowney has primarily utilized a strong bull rush and his 4.53 speed in the 40-yard dash to rush the passer. He hasn’t displayed an extensive repertoire of pass-rushing moves, eschewing rip, swim and spin moves.

    Clowney said he’s working on his counter moves to defeat blocks.
    “It’s coming along,” he said. “We’ve been working on it all week long for Chicago. Everything is coming along. We just have to keep working and getting better.”

    Great. He was impressing in PS just using bull rushes and raw speed. He “held back” his counter moves and hand fighting techniques. Meanwhile Floyd is a fucking ballerina.

    • BearDown100393

      He needs a spin move.

    • That’s usually what happens with freak athletes. They don’t have the technique coming into the NFL (except Aaron Donald…sigh.)

      We’ll see if he can actually develop counters. Those take time to develop, and some never feel comfortable executing them and just go back to their one move (like Floyd and his spin).

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      The dude was the hands down best player in the draft a few years ago but has been off the radar because of his injuries. Let’s just hope Fox has the Staff ready for this one.

    • SC Dave

      If he gets there their D-line will be insane, even with JJ at 80%

    • BuddhaJoe

      He could be scary, or he could destroy his knee in 3 plays.

    • Big Mike

      Clowney is in year 3 in the NFL. He was the top pick in the draft. Doom and gloom. Doom and gloom..

  • willbest

    I did go and look it up because I know the general stats suck for road non-conference games but it turns out over the last 4 years the Bears are 7-1 on the road against non-conference opponents. So this week is pretty much guaranteed.

    • TBC

      Yeah but that 1 was a doozy

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    My ideal scenario to start the Texan’s game…..Cutty throws a 70 yard bomb to White on the first play of the game. Yessir…that would be a fine start to the game.

    • PaceBot 2000

      3 and out by the D and then a bomb to White would be my perfect start.

      • willbest

        Nobody on this board want to pay Jeffery.

        • PaceBot 2000

          I have no problem with alshon. It’s just his last year is all.

          • SC Dave

            After all, Pace didn’t pick him. Maybe he’ll end up with Rodgers.

          • MB30SD

            Siiiiiigh

          • SC Dave

            Not worried; I’m assuming Alshon will earn the big contract with the right team. Us.

          • PaceBot 2000

            Players have long memories. Getting the tag is the kiss of death for the relationship.

          • CanadaBear

            I’d like to have a $14.7 mil kiss of death.

          • MB30SD

            Hope he pulls his head out of his assume. Maybe he and Floyd can start a club?

          • EnderWiggin

            No way man. If Jeffery plays 16 games this season, I think we’ll give him whatever extension he wants.

  • BuddhaJoe

    Completely unrelated side note: if you ever get the chance to eat Hatch green chiles, get all you can can. My fiance is from New Mexico and got a bunch shipped to us in Michigan and they are fucking amazing. Best chili ever.

    • Bender McLugh

      Well then, I’ll have to give them a go. I finally just made carne asada this weekend for the first time, certain recipes call for Hatch chili’s, among others like Ancho & Chipotle. Thanks for the tip.

    • Jokey

      I believe you, I have a foodie friend from New Mexico who roasts and cans a crate of green chilis every year.

  • GPLDAN

    Jeffy,

    You need to tweet your response to this article. Cause you be the Tweet man, got your followers and all of us here in the football ghetto of DBB.

    A rising lack of discipline under Fox prompted Elway to sometimes yell at the team because Fox wouldn’t. Before a late-season practice in 2014, Fox turned to a few people on the sideline and asked, “Isn’t winning the division enough?” A few weeks later, after the Broncos came out flat in a divisional playoff loss to the Colts, Fox got his answer.

    http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/page/enterprise-Elway160907/denver-broncos-gm-john-elway-drive-never-end

    • SC Dave

      Ghetto!?!

      I’ll have you know that Sotheby’s begged Jeff to list DBB, but evidently the offer was one that Da Blogfaddah could refuse. So here we remain.

    • PaceBot 2000

      Manning was playing hurt. Manning was the offense. That is why they lost. Had nothing to do with Fox not yelling or Elway yelling.

  • AlbertInTucson

    New thread.

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  • Poet

    Second best coach after Belichick. I only doubt about this statement every time Kubiac beats Belichick.

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