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Across The Middle – Week Four

| September 28th, 2016

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I’ve tried to calm myself down and think about the loss to the Cowboys logically. But I can’t help but come to the same conclusion I came to while watching the game: this team is suffering from coaching malpractice.

Any team missing their three best defensive players and starting quarterback is going to struggle. Add to the fact that those three defensive players were all playing in the front seven and they were going against the team with the best offensive line in the league and a blowout makes sense.

But I don’t give a shit about any of that.

The Bears should’ve been blown out several times last year, but they weren’t.

They weren’t because they fought.

They weren’t because they either had a sound game plan or adjusted well.

They weren’t because their coaching was a legitimate advantage.

That isn’t the case right now and I’m not sure what the answer is.

John Fox and company had a unique way of getting the most out of their players in 2015. Now they’re doing the opposite. Dowell Loggains can’t draw up a play to save his life and Vic Fangio has no idea who to put on the field. The guy supervising them doesn’t know what they’re doing and doesn’t know how to fix it.

I don’t care that Fox never provided the media with answers before now but the shit is hitting the fan. He needs to have a response better than “that’s a good question” when asked why the team he coaches didn’t run the ball more.

During the game, I called for Fox to be fired. Maybe that was hasty. But maybe they’re wasting our time with this charade that feels a hell of a lot like 2014 all over again.

Fox is a veteran coach and I’m fine with him getting the opportunity to fix this. But they can’t have another half like they did against Dallas.

Vic Might Be In Trouble

I don’t understand why Fangio was playing the players he was playing.

The Bears didn’t have a shot at stopping the Cowboys with Will Sutton lined up against Travis Frederick. Sure enough, on the first play, Sutton was destroyed and the Cowboys had an easy 20-yard gain. Sutton has value, but he can’t win that matchup. Hicks should’ve been the nose tackle with either Bullard or Washington at end.

Didn’t we learn Christian Jones couldn’t play inside last year? He struggled all of last season and was relegated to the bench behind John Timu and Jonathan Anderson by the end of the year. Anderson has been the first backup all offseason, but when it came to replacing Danny Trevathan, Fangio chose Jones. Why?

Jones showed why he shouldn’t be playing on the first play of the second quarter when he not only missed Dak Prescott, but took Cornelius Washington out in the process, allowing Prescott to run for 17 yards on third-and-three. What should’ve been a stop for the defense ended up being a touchdown drive solely because Jones failed to make a routine play on third down.

Later in the game, Harold Jones Quartey went down, which should’ve been a prime opportunity to throw fourth round pick Deon Bush — who they took over Prescott — in the game. Instead Fangio put Chris Prosinski in. As usual, Prosinski was bad and the Cowboys took advantage of him.

The Bears had another player they drafted over Prescott sitting on the bench the entire game in favor of a player who has proven to be terrible. Instead of running with Deiondré Hall, Fangio kept Jacoby Glenn on the field and the Cowboys abused him, repeatedly (I had Glenn being responsible for 105 yards).

After halftime Michele Tafoya quoted Fox as saying something about the injuries not being the Bears problem. To me, that was a direct look in Fangio’s direction. If Fox is mad at Fangio, imagine how Ryan Pace feels about the defensive coordinator continually throwing scrubs in front of players he spent relatively high picks on?

The Bears will have a hard time firing Loggains simply because they don’t have anyone to replace him with (but remember the name Frank Smith). They have options when it comes to replacing Fangio.

The Slow Starts Keep Coming

There are a lot of things that are driving me crazy this week, but the fact that the defense can’t seem to stop teams on their first drive is absolutely insane.

Since Fox took over, the Bears have given up touchdowns on their opponent’s first possession eight times and forced punts seven times. They gave up a field goal another time and in two games in which they didn’t give up touchdowns on the first drive, they gave up touchdowns on the second drive. The worst part is the touchdowns usually come like a hot knife through butter.

I get that the sign of a good coach is the ability to make adjustments but the sign of a bad coach is that his team is never prepared. What the hell do the Bears do during the week? Do they watch any tape at all, or just wait until they can feel the other team out?

The Bears aren’t built to play from behind and they are always behind.

Young Guys Are Tough to Bring Down

The biggest bright spot I came away with on Monday was the fact that neither Jordan Howard nor Kevin White are easy to bring down.

They’re both strong and physical and the Bears need to give them the ball. While I wasn’t sure how many guys were fighting hard out there, I had no doubt about both of them.

I credited White with two broken tackles and another in which he made a defender miss. Last week, I correctly predicted White would get a lot of balls thrown his way, but he still ended up with people questioning his efficiency. I marked down six passes thrown to him as being uncatchable, two more weren’t accurate but he still made the catch. He had a couple plays that would’ve required great catches. The Bears will want him to make those catches in the future, but this was a start.

I also had Howard down with two broken tackles, but his performance was about more than that. Naysayers point to the fact that a lot of his yardage came on one run, but he also lost six yards on two runs. I really liked how decisive he was when he got the ball and I think it’s time to get it to him 20 times a game to see what he can do.

Of course, the Bears signed Joique Bell, a player who I’m not particularly fond of. Bell is an adequate backup, but that’s it. If the Bears are going to move the ball on the ground, it’s going to be with Howard.

From the Chart

• Brian Hoyer was a lot of fun to chart this week. I didn’t think he was that bad watching the game live but I counted 10 inaccurate passes along with seven that he either threw away or spiked. The Bears have talented receivers, so they hauled in a few of his inaccurate passes, but it was pretty bad. I also held him responsible for 1.5 bad runs, which is very difficult for a quarterback to do.

• The offensive line was much better this week, with most of the pressures given up after the Bears were forced to pass. I still expect Kyle Long to be better than he was. I credited him with one bad run, one hurry and two false start penalties (the false start on the field goal attempt wasn’t called on him, but he was responsible for it). In all, I had the offensive line down for 5.5 bad runs and five quarterback disruptions.

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  • BerwynBomber

    JJ Watt news is not shocking. Those serious core injuries are worse than knees. I thought, optimistically, that he would only be 75% the entire year.

    Fear now is that his career might be over. If nothing else, I would be surprised if we ever see Watt in is prime again for any extended time. Shame for the game. He really was something else.

    • Johnnywad

      He was special. But man, athletes that fly that high are susceptible to hard crashes. They just do things bodies can’t do for long.

      • TBC

        LOL we’re already talking about JJ Watt in the past tense?

        • BerwynBomber

          A guy re-injuring a surgically repaired back doesn’t seem like the best bet to recapture his younger form. Plus, there is still speculation that he had a serious sports hernia at the end of last year as well.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Ask Tiger Woods about back problems.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            and Romo

        • Johnnywad

          You’re right. I’m sure he’ll be just fine.

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      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Just goes to show you how good Julius Peppers really was. We got Peppers at the end of his career and overpaid but the guy has had one heck of a career.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I heard a doctor during preseason speculating that with “Core Surgery” Watt would be lucky to be at 100% by mid-season. He was obviously nowhere near full strength thus far.

    • SC Dave

      Yeah, it sucks. You hate to see true greatness at risk so early. Reminds me of Gayle Sayers.

      • Irish Sweetness

        At risk? It was his decision to ruin his back.

        • Scharfinator

          His decision or not, he took a risk. Ergo, at risk.

    • BearDown100393

      A huge loss to Houston and to the NFL in general. He won’t return at the same level of play.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I thought it would have happened on the field in week one. The guy is an idiot (albeit a millionaire idiot). He thinks he’s superman who can come back a month after back surgery – he asked for that. He literally intentionally caused it, and if his career is over he has nobody to blame but himself.

      • Doc Hamstring

        Marty Booker came back a month after back surgery. I’m not sure what Watt had, but Booker’s surgery was a microdiscectomy and the docs tell you that once you’re doing normal movements again, you’re good to go for anything–it’s not like the disc really “heals” once it’s herniated. The healing all goes on in the muscles in the back, and once you’re moving normally, they’re healed and so going back to football isn’t any riskier than tying your shoes.

        Getting the muscles back to pre-injury condition takes a normal human maybe a month. A professional athlete can probably get to that point sooner, but YMMV for everyone

  • BerwynBomber

    White has improved each game. He is not jumping off screen, of course, but there is progress, however incrementally.

    My suspicion is he can become an adequate, even good pro WR. But I wonder if “Combine Kevin” is forever gone after the metal rod surgery.

    • BearDown100393

      That one hand completion was pure gold.

    • MB30SD

      he flashed, I’m willing to give him the year.

      That said, after I had my rod put in I lost about 10″ on my vertical jump and gained about .7 or .8 on my forty… what a bargain!

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

        Both Miller and White suddenly flashed with Hoyer.

        What a coincidence.

        Even Meridith outside that one bonehead play seemed in the right spots.

        • Johnnywad

          Hahahaha. Miller suddenly flashed with Hoyer? You watch any football games last year Butch? Cutty made Miller.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            This year not last yr.
            Did Cutler even complete a pass to Miller this yr?

      • SC Dave

        Yikes! Dont say that.

      • Scharfinator

        Your sexual proclivities with your rod and the resulting illnesses is not a fair analogy for Kevin’s leg, SIR! 🙂

    • willbest

      Evidence suggests it was his hammy and not a busted leg. Still needs to learn to catch the ball.

    • Scharfinator

      I’m thinking the rookie season with mental reps didn’t do shit for him, for whatever reason. Now he’s getting some actual field/play time. Maybe he will develop 🙂

  • SC Dave

    Kyle long is fucking injured

    • BearDown100393

      And hasn’t given up on his team or this season.

      • AlbertInTucson

        We’ve known he was hurt since late August. Question is “How Bad?”. Been speculation, including here, that it’s a torn labrum.

        • BearDown100393

          Very well could be. And yet he’s out there.

          • willbest

            He better not be if we lose a couple more. He has $30 million of guarantees, we don’t need him irreparably damaged.

          • Scharfinator

            This, so much this. He *may* be a future HOFer if we don’t ruin him.

      • SC Dave

        True that. My response was to ADs comment about Long not playing as well as he expects.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “0ffensive line was much better this week…”

    Meh.

    Dallas’ ability to rush the passer was all suspended.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I watched them the previous week, they have NO defense (now). Minnesota will show us exactly how ineffectual we are on the OL.

  • SC Dave

    Agree on the Jones thing. I was actually surprised he made the team over Timu.

    Howard, however, does not surprise me at all. I called him to start early this season, although it was not under the assumption that Langford could not play. It’s just that Howard looks a lot better than Langford.

    • BearDown100393

      Howard has flashed as a beast with the rock. He’s deserved the start regardless of Langford’s injury.

  • BearDown100393

    The loss to Dallas is in the past. In NFL time, that was a lifetime ago. Look ahead to the Lions. That is what is important. The Bears will get their 1st win of the season, a badly needed divisional win at home and end the Lions hex. Firing John Fox after 19 games with the Bears? Please. This isn’t Da Bears Score Blog now is it?

    13-3

    • MB30SD

      ha to agree

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      Thus far, Fox has a WORSE record than Trestman.

      Trestman!

      Meanwhile the Eagles exploded their roster and seemed to have turned it around in ONE season.

      • BearDown100393

        Trestman inherited a 10-6 and was supposed to be improve the offense. Fox inherited the shambles of that Trestman team and is supposed to overhaul complete incompetency. What the Eagles are achieving is admirable but hardly the classical norm.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Did will all notice that Tress “The one that got a”WAY threw as pretty a deep ball Sunday as any of of QBs has all season?

    • willbest

      No shit? I was flipping back and forth between that game and the other one.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

        Yeah. Apparently, he can also throw!

        We could’ve had Trestway and Ludquq or whatever that Saints K is.

        FML.

        • AlbertInTucson

          “Saint” Lutz was brought in as insurance in Baltimore because they were still negotiating a contract for Tucker. They signed Tucker. After a preseason game with the Saints, John Harbaugh told Sean Peyton “Hey, we’ve got a good, young kicker we can’t keep.” Saints tried him out. Loved him and replaced Connor Barf.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

    During the game, I called for Fox to be fired. Maybe that was hasty. But
    maybe they’re wasting our time with this charade that feels a hell of a
    lot like 2014 all over again. – Andy

    Not hasty.

    Albino Lovie was always on a short leash in my book. All he had to do was reach 7-9. That’s not exactly expecting much.

    Couldn’t even do that. Instead, we’re the worst team in the NFL.

    WORSE than the Lions.
    WORSE than the Browns.

    And it’s not even close.

    Fire him now. Interim Fangio.

    Get rid of all of them next year unless Fangio somehow miraculously turns it around, in which case, he gets another year.

    Start making overtures of trading Cutler and bringing in McDaniels.

    Being able to dump Cutler would be extra incentive for McDaniels I think.

    • Shady

      smh

      • MB30SD

        oh well heeeerrrrooooooooo.

        There he is… bang bang this week?

        • Shady

          Perhaps.

          • MB30SD

            mmmmm, yes… quite.

    • BearDown100393

      Andrew Haugh has no confidence in Fangio (apparently there are options but none identified). So it is not likely for him to agree to promoting Vic to interim HC.

      How about we just relax a bit and kill off the Lions this weekend as a starting point?

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

        It’s not that I love Fangio, but he CAN’T be worse than Fox, can he?

        The book on Fox is that his teams were zombies coming out of the gate. A trend that has proven true. Then one adds his in game coaching, challenge deficiency and half-time “adjustments” (not to mention his thoroughly uninspiring demeanor and downright inj two-facedness, which I can stand, IF he were winning).

        Maybe he lost it after his ticker exploded. Or maybe the game passed him by like with Joe Gibbs or Lovie.

        Either way, firing Fox will send a message to the fans and next coaching staff.

        See what we have in Fangio, and if they continue to play horribly, dump them all and bring in McDaniels next year.

        If we want to be “prudent” I guess we can wait till we have 1 win going into the bye, then do it then.

        Either way, needs to happen unless some miracle turnaround materializes.

        • MB30SD

          They tried the mcdouche at hc experiment, uhh, no fucking thanks. Guy’s a great oc, fuck that at hc

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            Just dont give McDaniels personnel control.

            Many HCs flamed out the first time around including the hooded one.

            Maybe that guy from Stanford?

            Either way Albino Lovie needs to go

          • MB30SD

            I’m down

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          “Either way, firing Fox will send a message to the fans and the next coaching staff”

          What? To reinforce Bears fans opinions that the Franchise is incompetent? That will never happen. Good coaching prospects prefer franchises with strong ownership. Nope, the Bears are going to fully embrace the “rebuilding” mantra. The only thing the Bears have going for them is a high draft position. I could see an up and coming HC prospect biting into that apple but I still don’t think the Bears will fire Fox before the middle or end of the next season.

        • BearDown100393

          It is okay to have differences of opinion regarding John Fox as a head coach. But keep in mind, the NFL is a fraternity and Fox is highly regarded from within. Should Pace (recognized as a rookie at his position rather than a veteran like Fox) to pull the trigger on the Head Coach, sure that might serve notice locally (and perhaps be celebrated). However the rest of the NFL might view that differently. John Fox has been the Bears HC for exactly 19 games. How many truly talented (from college or the pros) are going to step up with a resume in the wake of that firing?

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I think you forget there are only 32 NFL HC jobs in the world. People that are qualified and deserving of a HC job often have massive egos and think they can fix or work with what is given them. So I believe that while a few may hesitate to take over, there will be a line of qualified candidates wanting the job.

          • willbest

            Plus HC jobs usually don’t become available for things like the Denver Broncos. There is some reason the previous HC got fired and its almost never because he was the weakest link.

          • BearDown100393

            Except Cleveland. And Chicago does not want to be that.

    • TBC

      they should definitely wait for mcdaniels to come in before they dump cutler. That would be amazing

  • Irish Sweetness

    17 passes that were pooched? That’s incredible.

    I overlooked who Fangio was starting in the place of injured players such was the mesmerizing effect of watching a Bears team in an acid bath. Timu should be in there. Glenn is a very good young corner, based on every snap he’s played for us. Hall, Glenn, Porter, we’re fine at CB.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      I’m really not all that bummed about Fuller, AKA neckbrace.

      We drafted all those secondary guys for a reason, might as well find out if they’re starting material.

      • willbest

        Well you are when you realize you could have had CJ Mosley or Zach Martin or traded the fuck up for Aaron Donald.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

          I’m already on record for wanting to Trade up for Donald. Was screaming it during the draft. And Leonard too.

          This year could’ve had a number of guys, at least Joseph.

          Oh well. That’s why we perpetually suck.

          • MB30SD

            Yep, Joseph… or tunsil? How’s he doing this year?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Tunsil is doing well at guard.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Too easy will. That would have taken all the fun out of the draft. The Bears remind me of the gambler that finds himself at the roulette wheel with his last 50 bucks and lays it all down on 00. The Bears don’t draft well, not since Vainici. Somewhere along the line, the Lombard banking family turned their back on the Bears. I think their blood debt. was paid when Halas died.

          • MB30SD

            Is finks still alive?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I dunno. How can one team draft as many studs as the bears in the early 80’s? What made that 4 or 5 year window so different since then? Could it be that the League wanted to send Halas off with a ring? Who knows?

          • SC Dave

            No. He died of cancer long ago.

          • MB30SD

            I know. Rip

    • willbest

      Timu was on the practice squad, he is supposedly on the 53-man for this week.

    • BearDown100393

      Dak Prescott’s level of preparedness was mentioned during the broadcast. He was given an assignment to learn and memorize plays on a sheet of paper. This was given to me toward the end of the day. It was more or less a test of character by the QB coaches. The next day, he had the sheet memorized and was working the plays in practice. Screams volumes. There is raw talent. And then there is will to learn and compete. Combine both and you have gold. And that can happen at a mid level draft pick with the right scouts reviewing the right prospect.

    • SC Dave

      So, is it all this above, or the following comment from the adjacent post of this thread?

      “Fangio must go at the very least, he is as most DCs are – only as good as their players. WAY too much emphasis placed on co-ordinators. They are not wizards. If some other DC plays a standard 4-3 with the 85 Bears, they’d still be great. Fangio came here expecting what worked with his players in SF to work here. He’s a gonzo.”

  • BerwynBomber

    Even if we go 3-13, Poxangio and Cutler will all be back. The big changes in the off-season will be:

    1) Loggains will be fired/replaced
    2) Pace will finally draft a QB, even if it is a fourth round development guy
    3) the #2 behind Cutty next year will be a rook or a younger guy like Shaw. It will no longer be some neutered veteran who poses no threat to Cutty and offers no hope for the future

    P.S. Fox and Fangio have a three year window and they’ll either survive or go down together.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We had the development guy in Fales and we fucking binned him. Shaw goes down after flashing, and e’re left with the fuckstick Hoyer.

      Pace probably will draft “Cutty’s replacement” in the fourth.

      Fangio must go at the very least, he is as most DCs are – only as good as their players. WAY too much emphasis placed on co-ordinators. They are not wizards. If some other DC plays a standard 4-3 with the 85 Bears, they’d still be great. Fangio came here expecting what worked with his players in SF to work here. He’s a gonzo.

      How about just drafting either the OL or the DL? (DL would be my preference always).

      1. Cutty
      2. Shaw
      3. Give Ravens a 6th for Fales to correct the error.

      • willbest

        Fales doesn’t have it.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          what you talkin bout willis! Fales is a future HOFer!

      • MB30SD

        Sigh irish, fucking sigh man.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        Fales is just bird seed Irish. They guy does not have an NFL arm, small hands, short. He hit the anti-trifecta with his measurable’s. He’s a smart guy with good accuracy that won’t embarrass you if his number gets called but he’s not going to win you games unless the team has a top 3 defense. Very Dilfer like.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Rather see him in there actually playing football than Brian Hoyer.

          Man open for a TD .. .throws the ball out of bounds he missed so badly.

          Unacceptable.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I also wanted to see Fales get some game time but after watching his college film, it was obvious to me that he didn’t have an NFL arm. I saw receivers waiting on the ball.

    • willbest

      If we go 3-13 and Pace decides to keep Fox and Cutler, Loggains is coming back. Who the hell would want the job knowing they are going to get fired at the end of the year unless the Bears make the playoffs. Unless the goal of the new OC is to become interim HC in week 6 after Fox goes 1-4.

      I would say moving Cutler is a vote that Fox will play out his contract, so the OC at least knows he is getting 2 years. Problem is coaches get hired in Jan/Feb, and you are moving Cutler until March.

      My guess is a 3-13 performance will result in a new HC. I also doubt Cutler sticks because that is a record that gets you your choice of QB.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        First shit me a QB, then worry about what to do with Cutler. Trade him now for at least a 1st rounder next year would be the thing to do. Might as well go full rebuild.

      • BerwynBomber

        Practically, any offensive positional coach in the league, which Loggains was previously too, will take the job. It’s a promotion. Occasionally, an Adam Gase may have his choice of jobs, but that’s the exception not the rule. Plus, who is to say you must go down with the ship, or for that matter, if the ship even goes down?

        But they will need a fall guy for this year — if it continues to go south — and the easiest one will be Loggains.

        My bet is Fox had a three year handshake and it will be honored.

    • beninnorcal

      I’d have been all for a veteran who posed a threat to Jay these last few years but who would that have been exactly?

      • beninnorcal

        Guess what I’m saying is that I don’t think the brass was specifically avoiding certain qb’s who would threaten Jay, they’ve just never really been to good at evaluating/hiring qb’s.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Unfortunately, good backups are not affordable. The best a team can do is find a journeyman on his last leg or a project that over performs. That’s why it’s better to draft a 2nd or 3rd rounder because a team can control the salary issue better that way. You’re lucky to get 2 years out of a solid back up other wise. Ergo, Josh McCown.

      • BerwynBomber

        Foles, McCarron, Glennon are a few off the top of my head. Certainly, Sanchez after the ’13 season after McCown walked. Hoyer, to his credit, is probably the closest we have come to it in years. Kid Griese back in the day would have been a good example as well.
        Anyway, it’s all past tense in my book. They’ll go Shaw type and/or a rook, depending on how many QBs they carry on the 53.

        • willbest

          We had Jason Campbell for a year. He demonstrated why Cutler was a starter, much like Hoyer did. Granted, Jay hasn’t done well this year and maybe he has lost his mojo, or maybe he injured his thumb in Texas, but Hoyer nonetheless showed why you don’t start him.

          None of those people are the guy. Darth Hoodie doesn’t back up Brady with anybody he knows isn’t the guy. Garrett Grayson, Jimmy G, Dak Prescott, Kevin Hogan… somebody should be on our roster the second we concluded Fales didn’t have it (which was last year when he didn’t start against Seattle). They picked up Shaw, but the Browns already decided he wasn’t the guy. Which makes the Bears bringing him in somewhat dubious even if he impressed in the preseason. Maybe if we had a history sniffing out raw QB talent or a knack for developing QBs… but there is nothing about Pace and Fox specifically, or the Bears organization generally that leads me to believe they have any competence in that area.

          • MB30SD

            Remind me what areas we do again. Hahaha

          • willbest

            Linebackers and Running backs.

          • MB30SD

            we do?

          • willbest

            Historically we do. And sure we spent a couple years with Emery/Trestman in the LB wilderness, but Freeman is legit, and we had Forte for 8 years and now Howard is promising.

          • BerwynBomber

            Valid point about Campbell. I was never sold on him, hence why I forgot him.
            Regardless, I think the veteran back-up behind Cutty era is over after this year. If Cutty is here next year, it will be a Shaw type or most likely a rookie we draft. In other words, the guy in the ballcap will be the presumed starter-in-waiting/training.

            I’m not sold on Shaw either for the exact reasons you state. Looked good for a few minutes in preseason, but who knows what that means. Otherwise, he is a Browns UDFA cast-off.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      It’s going to be interesting to see if Pace goes top QB or top Defensive player next year. Yes, I think the odds are very good that we get first dibs. Personally, I’d like to trade up into the 1st round and have 2 picks. We need help!

      • Doc Hamstring

        Who’s the current ND State Bisons QB? You know someone’s going to look for lightning to strike twice.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Cutty would give you that. We’d have the QB that Pace thought was best at #1 … then another guy for OT/DE.

        Shaw. Your draftboy. Barkley. Top OT (or rather the guy that Pace thinks is a top OT)

      • Huge Bears Penis

        how can we get a top pick if we are going 13-3?

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Wake up, wake up…lol

          • Huge Bears Penis

            lol, I know it’s not going to happen. just tired of everyone’s incessant doom and gloom.

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  • Bender McLugh

    eash….that Christian Jones lowlight is painful to watch

    • Doc Hamstring

      Yeah, when I saw his jersey on the screen, I thought “WTF?” He was almost cut, and was kept mainly because his ST play. No way he should’ve been out there unless every other LB was injured.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

        Then they cut Anderson. WTF?

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Fuller is a bust.

    As soon as I saw his Derrick Rose looking face, I knew the kid had no toughness. Maybe Unicorn was trying to toughen the kid up by spiking him.

    That Jones lowlight is brutal

    • willbest

      I am in utter disbelief that a Bears first round draft pick is a bust. I will give Emery one bit of credit. Fuller was the only one of his first round draft picks where I wasn’t going WTH when he made it.

    • BearDown100393

      Because he went on IR after having surgery in August?

      • willbest

        Because outside of 1 game against San Fransisco he hasn’t performed at anywhere near the quality of corner he was drafted to be.

    • BerwynBomber

      Wasn’t “injury-prone” a concern with him coming into the draft?

  • DaCoaches Mustache

    We should all be rooting for a good team’s qb to get injured between now and trade deadline. Trade Cutty for a higher pick than he’ll get in the off season.

    • beninnorcal

      With my luck, as a Bears fan, he would then go on to win a SB with a team like the Cardinals.

      • willbest

        Of course he would. Proving that it isn’t him, its the McCaskeys because they would be the only constant left after Jay goes.

      • Scharfinator

        If he did, I’d be happy for him. He hasn’t been magnificent in Chicago but I can’t blame him for all of it. He got the short end of a LOT of sticks.

        • willbest

          The flip side of that, he and his ain’t hurting. And when the CTE sets in he won’t remember being on the short end.

      • BerwynBomber

        Uni and Shea may have rings this February.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      I don’t know why SF isn’t phoning for Cutler. I mean Gabbert? Cmon. And they obviously want to trade Kap so maybe throw him into the deal

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    There has been Ukranian nationalist video on Youtube for over a year showing the Russian launcher driving down the road, the exact missile used, and the convoy that had the launcher with it. The video shows Russians talking about firing the missile. It shows the launcher was parked where the shot came from.

    Everybody in the world knows it was a Russian AA unit that fired the missile.

    That it took this long for the report to be official, and even the report is too chicken shit to say “this unit and these guys fired it”, just that the missile itself came from Russia.

    http://www.usnews.com/news/articles/2016-09-28/report-russia-implicated-in-mh17-malaysia-airline-crash-over-ukraine

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Not to mention that Putin sicked his Snowdens on journalists.

      https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/russian-hackers-harass-researchers-who-documented-russian-involvement-in-shootdown-of-malaysian-jetliner-over-ukraine-in-2014/2016/09/28/d086c8bc-84f7-11e6-ac72-a29979381495_story.html

      Taking a military unit, stripping it’s insignias, driving it into another sovereign nation, and shooting down a commercial airliner for a false flag operation is an act of war. Full stop.

      • willbest

        So is violating the cease-fire you just signed by bombing the syrian army.

        The only way the banksters will permit the massive default required to fix the First World’s economic woes is if there is 100 million dead and 20 trillion in infrastructure destroyed so they can be right there at the end to loan the money needed to rebuild.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The video on Youtube of a cruise missile going into the Pentagon was another interesting false flag operation.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        Irish –

        It’s critical to know the difference between internet hoaxers and crazy conspiracy theory and reality. It really really is.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Premise: The video is fake.

          Next Question: Why are there no other videos? Why did the powers that be seize every source of footage and bury it? Why was it not offered up as evidence to the people?

          Answer: Frightening.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            It was the west side of the Pentagon. IN 2001, people did not have iPhones.

            You presume that at Rush Hour on a Tuesday morning, people were fiddling with camcorders using tape in their cars.

            Several eyewitnesses came forward to say they saw the plane coming in.

          • Irish Sweetness

            DUDE!! The Pentagon is the most comprehensively Close-circuit TV covered building on the planet! Now they won’t release anything. I’d like to know why, wouldn’t you?

            Chemtrails are crazy conspiracy theories. Until they show us that footage and answer fifty other questions around what happened that day … it’s on.

          • willbest

            How many people realistically would be needed for your conspiracy theory? And I presume the TSA, Homeland Security, and Patriot Act, etc. were the end games, and Afghanistan and Iraq were just necessary distractions with the benefit of war profiteering.

            Because its not just the pentagon you are talking about. They would have needed to set up controlled demo of 1 and 2 in addition to 7, otherwise there might be evidence that didn’t get destroyed.

          • Scharfinator

            I mean… 7 seemed like a pretty interesting way for a building to fall that hadn’t been struck by a plane or anything.

            Though, maybe engineers/architects try to make them fail that way at least.

          • willbest

            It would not surprise me in the least if there was a CIA or NSA server farm in there, and they blew it because the site could no longer be secured.

          • Scharfinator

            You know, that makes more sense than the conspiracy theory.

            You’re assuming an awful lot of competence in our government though 😛

  • Irish Sweetness

    The WestWorld TV series actually looks good. Anthony Hopkins? Ed Wood. JJ Abrams.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qLFBcdd6Qw0

    • Bender McLugh

      yeah man, excited for that one

      • Irish Sweetness

        Saoirse Ronan? They’ve forked out some shekels on this ….

        • Bender McLugh

          that’d be Evan Rachel Wood though, not Saoirse. still an eggsellent cast

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        it does look good.

        Ryan Pace should play one of the bots

  • Scharfinator

    Is 2-14 too good for the first round pick? Would love to just beat the Pack twice 🙂

    • BearDown100393

      The Bears are running the table. 13-3.

      • Scharfinator

        Deal

        • BearDown100393

          And Grimus gets fired by The Cheese after the second pasting.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Then a meteor hits Lambeau Field, and the Packer organization collapses and is forced to sell, and all those idiot Packer fans that have “stock” find out that it is and always has been worthless.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Too Cheese to succeed?

          • BearDown100393

            Lands on Aaron Rodgers

          • Huge Bears Penis

            no, i don’t want anyone to actually die. The meteor does come close enough to him that he questions his life choices. Rodgers finally admits he is gay and his true passion is song and dance. So, he gives up football and joins the Village People.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The pool table?

        The dinner table?

        The Buffet table?

        • AlbertInTucson

          The Periodic Table Of Elements?

        • Sactowns#1

          I think it’s the table they lay you on for your wake.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I believe that is call a bier.

          • SC Dave

            I’ll take a beer

    • Irish Sweetness

      I love it. 2-14 but we sweep the Pack. Win-win.

    • Sactowns#1

      What difference does it make when our GM constantly tries to prove how “smart” he is by drafting a longshot instead of the consensus #1?

      • MB30SD

        come on maings.

        • Sactowns#1

          Please provide proof otherwise. I have zero hop until we get a new GM. He has proven inept. the signing of Joiq Bell when we could have Forte proves it. The guy is a clown who has had exactly ZERO draft picks pan out.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            Amos, Goldman, Whitehair, Howard, Bullard?

          • Sactowns#1

            Concussion issues, injured, not playing well, we’ll see but not promising, stinks.

          • willbest

            Bell should be a backup to Howard.

            Floyd was going to go in the top 20, probably top 15. So I can’t really fault him for that. White was going to go in the top 12. Problem is we had so many other needs

          • BerwynBomber

            Forte was fantastic. An all-time Bear. One of the top three Bears RBs in our history.

            But how do you equate the signing of Bell to Forte? Forte was serious bucks. Bell is a few pennies off the street.

          • willbest

            Its hindsight. If Forte had ended up in a RBBC or relegated to 3rd down back status it wouldn’t hurt at all. But he clearly had another year of 3 down back in him. And then you look at the salary he took to produce like that, and the fact that the Bears were in the best position to know his health and it looks like a bad decision to not even offer him something.

            I get not wanting to give him 2 years guaranteed but we didn’t even try seeing if he would take 1 year guaranteed. Now perhaps there was an informal conversation with his agent or something but we won’t know.

          • Sactowns#1

            We are now scrambling for replacements at many positions WE ALREADY HAD LOCKED DOWN! WR, RB, C, it’s ugly and inept.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            The bromance between Cutler and Bmarsh was OVER.
            One of them had to go.

            RB and C are other stories.

            No one has yet given me a plausible explanation for releasing Slauson.

          • Sactowns#1

            Its the same as all the moves. He cost $$ and Pace wanted to show how smart he is by landing an unknown stud for less. The Bears under Pace are essentially the Oakland A’s of football.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            He’s a synthetic life form. His AI has not worked all the kinks out. He’s a little Roy Batty.

          • MB30SD

            Zero?

            Freeman? Travathan? Amos?

      • Scharfinator

        Kevin White wasn’t a longshot?

  • BerwynBomber

    Sunday should be interesting. DET is banged up too. In fact, they are missing two of their top D players in Ansah and Levy (though Levy might be day-to-day) and also one of their starting DBs. Of course, they also lost their starting RB for the year.

    Could come down to whether we start Cutty or Hoyer since Stafford is presumably healthy on their side.

    • AlbertInTucson

      EVERYBODY is banged up already.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yes, especially in the NFCN.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Besides a QB & RB, I believe the Vikings are now down without their starting LT (Kalil) and LG (Boone).

          The Redskins signed C John Sullivan this week because THEIR starting C went down.

          • willbest

            I almost think that if the league places weight caps by position we would see less of these injuries. Of course, I don’t know how one would go about phasing that in.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I don’t disagree. Pretty obvious that today’s athletes are writing checks their bodies can cash.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Riddick is more dangerous than Abdullah. I don’t know we have an answer for Mavin Jones. THen there’s golden Tate. They’ll murder us on screens and dumps to Riddick. They’ll beat us in the middle with Marvin. And if they stack the box on Jordan ….

      • BerwynBomber

        Not as pure runner. Riddick is very good as a receiver out of the backfield, but Abdullah is the better runner. Hence, their pre-injury depth chart.

        We’ll see about your gloomy forecast. As I said, their D is missing as many key/proven guys as ours, and maybe more given the quality of Ansah and Levy. Jay should be able to exploit that. Hoyer? I’m not so sure.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

          Both of you guys are wrong.

          The best Lions HB is…Dwayne Washington.

          If the Lions feed him more, he’ll be dangerous.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        don’t need screen passes and dump passes, because we still haven’t been able to cover crossing routes.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft
    • MB30SD

      she got so yuuuuuuuuge!

    • willbest

      Expect her to disappear by tomorrow. She admitted to driving the getaway car for an attempted murder

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we8OnvlWSHg

      The judge in her boyfriend’s attempt murder trial over that same incident said she threatened his life.

      Trumps legion of Pepe have also discovered that she was dating Mexican Cartel kingpin named Gerardo Alvarez Vazquez who is on prison for a whole host of things , and that Mexican Attorney General also believes that it is he who is the father of her US Anchor baby.

      And Hillary Clinton has just held her out as the model immigrant.

      ed. In fact, this is the most delicious thing to have happened Trump, because now at the next debate he can ask her all about Alicia Machado campaigning for her.

      • Sactowns#1

        Ah, a conspiracy around every corner and a justification for every misstep. lol

        • willbest

          So you didn’t watch the video with her interview on CNN with Anderson Cooper where she admitted to it.

          • Sactowns#1

            Well that OBVIOUSLY justifies Trumps poor treatment of her. He knew she would one day date a Hefe. He’s psychic!

          • willbest

            I am unsurprised that you are focused more on his jerk treatment of her than the Clinton campaign’s utter incompetence of using a woman who escaped justice as a campaign surrogate.

            ed. Although that seems par for the course really. What does DWS do after she rigged the primary against your boy Bernie?

          • willbest

            Incidentally, his comments 20 years ago were the same comments we all were saying about Briggs. Dude showed up fat and unable to perform. Her fucking job was looking good. If you are as libertarian as you say, then you shouldn’t have a problem with her selling her services as looking good, nor should you have a problem with her employer being upset that she wasn’t fulfilling her job requirement.

            So presumably you only have an issue with how tactful he was about expressing his displeasure due to his relationship as her employer. Or maybe you only care that it was a comment that went public I don’t know. I am not going to go back through your disqus and see if you have ever fat shamed a woman, but I know quite a number of people have made such comments here about women, men, etc.

            Hell its a running joke to talk about what Biggsy has been eating, and it isn’t even a function of his job to look good.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            Yeah, but Biggsy is gigantic.

            This broad was Daisy Fuentes fat, not Hairspray fat.

            I did laugh when Trump started calling her “Miss Housekeeping”

          • willbest

            I mean its clearly not something you say in polite company, but I am confident every guy has to some degree done it. Which is why we can all go “How Dare You Sir” and then go back to not caring it.

            Women on the other hand loathe men body shaming women even if they are the worst offenders. Walk through a book club or whatever other pretense women use to drink wine and gossip and it will make you blush.

          • Irish Sweetness

            In which universe is Daisy fat?

          • Freddy G.P. Soft
          • Irish Sweetness

            So it’s fair game on the mentally ill … another casual “Brandon’s crazy …” but lay off people who can’t stop shoving food in their mouth?

          • willbest

            Don’t know how you drew that link from my comment. I care as much about fat shaming as I do about tobacco shaming.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      two for one.

      Women and latinos.

      If you don’t think Hillary is all that bright, imagine how other world leaders will manipulate Trump.

  • BerwynBomber

    Cutty practiced today. Limited but practiced

    • SC Dave

      Does “limited” mean he didnt throw the ball?

      • Huge Bears Penis

        he was limited to only throwing interceptions.

        • Sactowns#1

          Zing!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            sad thing about it is that Cutler kept drilling the DBs in the back of the head. Bastards still have not learned to turn their heads around, now a couple of them have to go through the concussion protocol.

          • SC Dave

            Were the interceptions when the ball got stuck between the back of their helmets and shoulder pads?

  • BerwynBomber

    If you think the Bears are run badly, the White Sox are offering Robin Ventura the option to return under a new contract for 2017. This would be nearly akin to if the Bears had offered Trestman the same option after the ’14 season.

    • willbest

      Maybe they don’t feel they are going to compete next year regardless, and sucking in baseball works.

      You have to go back to 1985 in order for the Bears to have tied the White Sox in national championships and 1963 for them to have more.

      • BerwynBomber

        Sucking in baseball does not work for the White Sox. To do that you have to commit to building your farm system.

    • AlbertInTucson

      S.M.H.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Bears sign UFA Matt Flynn, former Saint, to play QB. Release Jay Cutler.

    • EnderWiggin

      Made me look…
      Closest I could find to the truth:
      https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/781197307542958080?s=09

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        News from that alternate universe where Chris Pine is Kirk, I guess.

        • willbest

          I am waiting for alternate universe Denny Craine myself.

          • BearDown100393

            With or without Mad Cow Disease?

          • willbest

            either or really. He had such range

          • BearDown100393

            Denny was always paranoid about Mad Cow Disease. And those scenes with Spader were terrific.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            the one where he is played by Nathan Lane?

          • willbest

            That would be awesome actually. Why isn’t a network on that one.

    • willbest

      Isn’t Matt Flynn the guy that Seattle paid $10 million to because his 1 game performance as a Packer, who then went on to lose his job to some scrub sub 6foot QB.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

    No other team can possibly be more inj, right?

    https://twitter.com/ZachZaidman/status/781198629306531840

    • willbest

      Well it looks like we got our nickel back. Of course, both our ILBs are out and I hope to hell we are taking the Pole out of safety duty this time around. Bullard has a toe? I presume that means the big toe since it seems hard to injure one of the other ones unless another 350 heavy came down directly on it.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Gotta love the blog.

    Topics ranging from Fuller is a bust, mad cow desease, fat chicks, Russian agression, State secrets, alternate universes to backup qb’s.

    #birdseed!

    We owe it all to Ryan Pace. Pace is birdseed.

    • willbest

      I will add one more

      The Senate voted 97-1 and house 348-77 to override Obama’s veto allowing
      victims of 9-11 to sue the Saudi government. Who said bipartisanship
      is dead.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        If it’s too good too be true it’s too good to be true. Breadcrumbs that lead to the bottomless pit more likely.

        • willbest

          Well stimulus plan for lawyers at any rate.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

        I think any president would be obligated to “defend” the Saudi regime because of their $

        GW is practically their pet.

        • willbest

          was. He spends his time on his ranch painting naked pictures of himself these days.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Saudi Arabia was created by the west in WW1 to help defeat the Ottoman Empire. They are London and France’s proxy, Iran is Russia’s and China’s. We’ve been winning until recently and the situation is at its tipping point. The U.S. is fighting Russia for a seat at the big boys table since China already has a lock as the #2. Who’s #1? I’m not telling.

          • SC Dave

            No, the devil deal was the US propping up the Saudi royal family in exchange for them convincing OPEC that all oil would be traded using US dollars. The only thing that has allowed Americans to enjoy the fruits of cheap overseas labor.

            All those big screen TVs and cheap I phones paid for with a currency whose value is propped up by the fact that no one could buy oil without buying dollars first.

            When that truss fails, the dollar will be done.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            But Dave, this has all been planned. It cannot be stopped. The House of Saud was a Vatican and British Empire concoction. We have been the beneficiaries of that arrangement up until now. Syria is the end game.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      ALIENS!!!! they are pulling the strings on everything.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

    sigh…in other roto news…

    The Oakland defense turned in an improved performance in Week 3, sparked by rookie SS Karl Joseph.

    The Raiders finally installed Joseph in the starting lineupin Week 3, and the rookie responded with a team-high 10 tackles. After getting destroyed in consecutive games to begin the season, the Oakland defense held Tennessee to just 10 points while forcing three turnovers. The Raiders D/ST isn’t an advised fantasy option in Week 4 at Baltimore,but this group has plenty of talent and should round into shape shortly

    • BerwynBomber

      A Butch draft crush? Man, those die hard around here.

      I’ll share one of mine: I liked Marcus Peters (CB) coming out of WAS two years. He slipped because of some discipline issues in college. But thus far he has been damn good for KC.

      • MB30SD

        MBP too. Rabbit was ALLLLLL over joseph

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, you love your safeties. I don’t even remember Joseph. Shows how bad I am.
          But I didn’t follow the 2016 draft closely. The most I remember is that, for months, people had stiffies for Reggie Ragland and then I finally watched him in the national title game and he basically disappeared but for one goal line segment where he made a single play.
          But in fairness to the guy, was only one game. Bad ones happen to everyone.

          • willbest

            Still waiting for Floyd to have a good game.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            Did NOT like ROBO Ragland.

            The two guys I liked at our slot or trading down 1 or 2 was Joseph or Tunsil (IF all that gasmask stuff was checked out).

            On record for both.

          • BerwynBomber

            Other than how he played that night, what scared me about Ragland is that he came off the field on passing downs. Those type of MLBs still exist but they are probably not optimal in today’s NFL. Moreover, I’d prefer they reach that two down backer stage later in their careers.

          • BerwynBomber

            Tunsil, that’s right. Yeah, we might have blown that opportunity. He fell.

          • MB30SD

            I was screaming for that dude. would you trade him for spin move now?

            fuuuuck

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

          Yeah, I think he’s the first one to submit Joseph’s tape into the blog, and I’m like “O-M-G.”

          And I typically stay away from drafting safeties early, but I thought he was a tough playmaker

          Edit. TEN tackles in first game.

          Does Floyd even have 10 tkls total so far?

          • MB30SD

            yes, I am ALL about drafting safeties in the first. i.e., Mike Brown.

            We need one, although Amos is looking better and better

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            I told you Amos was good.

            He’s not a ballhawk, but he’s a hammer and doesn’t seem to fuck up.

            He’s only going to get smarter. Must’ve been pretty smart already starting his rookie year.

            But a playmaker like Jospeh next to him would’ve been sweet. Oh well.

            It’s better to see Floyd spin and get roadgraded I guess.

          • MB30SD

            I told you. Ahem

          • SC Dave

            I am encouraged by Amos’ play. May the improvement continue.

      • Sactowns#1

        I think everyone recalls me screaming for Jimmy G a couple years back. Pour some liquor out for a homies dream.

        • BerwynBomber

          Wish I could say I said sell half the team for Wentz. I did like Mariota though. And was way in the minority on that one around here. But even I hedged a bit on him. And who knows how he’ll turn out.

          The guy who was all in on Mariota was Scott from WI. Wasn’t there a Scott from WI on here? I remember him basically saying Pace should move heaven and earth for Mariota.

      • SC Dave

        I’ve only had one draft crush over all my years here on the blog. And it was not really realistic, as we’d have had to ditch, say, Cutler to get him as there were too many slots to move up.

        Luke.

    • willbest

      Baltimore has no offense outside Tucker (ed. and my fantasy team likes it that way)

      • BerwynBomber

        Yet if they make the post-season you can bank on Flacco performing like a HoFer.

  • PaceBot 2000

    When the Bears expectations aren’t high my income skyrockets. Explain.

    #97dollarsanhour
    #usedMcClarens
    #Nigeria

    • CanadaBear

      In other words, most years you are wildly successful. Good on ya, Johnny!

      • PaceBot 2000

        It’s weird, I thought they were going to do pretty well. The team fizzled in half of each of the two first games, Cutty goes down and so does half of our D. We decide not to exploit our weapons and then it starts coming off the rails.
        When my passion wanes a bit I find myself blogging less, caring a little less, letting the game impact me as much.
        I still want them to win but I have to be honest the rebuild must continue. I didn’t expect these first 3 games though.

        • CanadaBear

          I thought 8-8 in PS but between the injuries, very pedestrian roster (when everyone was healthy), very little depth and the coaches going in the tank, it’s just nuts.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      “Lucky at cards, bad at love”

      It somehow all balances it out, like what I said about chicks.

      The Seinfeld “Even-Steven” principle.

      If the Bears go 0-16, maybe you can buy them.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      Also, I sent you a trade proposal.

      You can’t POSSIBLY win with James White at HB.

      Yuge trade proposal. Yuuge.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        #NoFatties

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

          #missUniverseGrande

        • MB30SD

          She’s yuuuuuuge

      • PaceBot 2000

        I fucking decline.
        Your views on the QB position have turned us into mortal enemies.

        Not only that, I’m putting Cutler back into the rotation. Fuck Brees.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

          I’m the highest scorer with $2 QBs.

          Sometimes $1QBs are better than $15M ones.

          Zing!

          • willbest

            I picked Matt Ryan up off waivers (1 QB league) after week 1. I had Big Ben on my bench in week 3. Didn’t do me a lot of good because nobody besides him and Justin Tucker showed up And my opponent averaged 19 points a position.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            Ryans is tearing it up , but we’re going to find out if it was just the schedule so far for him.

  • PaceBot 2000

    Part of me wants Cutler to just be gone because then I can read about people actually addressing real reasons why the team is faltering and what must be done to improve it. I’m ready for it to be over. I just can’t take the fans anymore.

    • willbest

      Well the only constant from 2009 to present is Cutler and the McCaskey’s. Going be 40+ years before the latter problem is solved. I guess I can’t fault people for wanting to try seeing if it might be the other one.

      • PaceBot 2000

        I can assure you that it’s not.
        We won 10 games in 2010 with Cutler and went to the NFC Championship game
        We went 7-3 in the first games in 2011 with Cutler until injury
        We won 10 games in 2012 with Cutler but that was one of those years where it wasn’t good enough in the NFC.
        In 2013 and 2014 the defense completely fell apart after years of inept drafting and free agent acquisitions.
        The rebuild started in 2015.

        • willbest

          I don’t believe he is either. Just saying I understand the mindset involved.

        • Sactowns#1

          If you have a QB who consistently cant play 16 games a season, then that’s certainly a big part of the problem.

          • Sactowns#1

            And please save your “it’s the line’s fault” and other excuses. He’s like a leg lamp, fragile’.

          • MB30SD

            It’s italian

          • willbest

            He isn’t the most durable. 293 sacks in 136 starts vs. 314 sacks for Aaron Rodgers in 122 starts.

            Since the start of 2008 when Rodgers became the starter:

            Rodgers has missed 9
            Cutler has missed 14 (15 if you count the scapegoat benching).

          • Malice Halice

            Im still done with cutler. But dayum! Knowing you finna get whacked atleast twice a game is some shit. Cutty must be fuckin the O-line coach’s wife or something.

          • willbest

            Sacks is an imperfect stat, because they can still take hits like the 250lb spear to the chest that would have killed most of us. And he missed a big chunk of games being stupid and trying to tackle his own interception.

            I actually just went and pulled the sacked data and was surprised he gets sacked less than Rodgers. Then again, Rodgers probably throws more per game than he does

          • BerwynBomber

            True but we tend to overreact to average or below average pass protection. Might happen with all fan bases but certainly does in CHI or on this blog.

            There were years Rodgers ran for his life up there. And a half-sack more per game (than Cutty) is significant.

          • BerwynBomber

            Cutler’s durability has never been a huge issue. My guess is it is about average in regard to league-wide starters.

            Ball security, mechanics, decision-making and reading defenses are other matters.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft
    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      It’s not just the fans

      http://larrybrownsports.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/Pernell-McPhee-Jay-Cutler.jpg

      http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17646032/john-fox-not-guaranteeing-jay-cutler-gets-qb-job-back-being-medically-cleared

      Also, for the record, I only want to dump Cutler IF we get a #1 for him, or two 2nd rounders.

      But yes, the Cutler era should be over.

      Much like with SC and Forte, if you really like Cutler, you should be glad he’ll be on a less shitty franchise.

      win/win

      • PaceBot 2000

        he deserved better than what he got here even though he’ll never say it.
        Look at the fucking list of mopes he played with.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

          No argument there. What fan wanted Tice and Trestman debacle?

          And I was probably the first one to say that we should NOT promote Birdcage just for the sake of “consistency”.

          But this franchise is constitutionally incapable of making sound rational decisions.

          And as such, we need a QB who can transcend their stupidity and not be a victim of it.

          • Malice Halice

            EXACTLY!

          • willbest

            I can get behind this

          • EnderWiggin

            Has any QB transcended stupidity? Favre maybe..

          • willbest

            Brees, Peyton, Rodgers

          • PaceBot 2000

            huh????

          • BerwynBomber

            Not bad but I’d argue Irsay Jr. stayed in the background largely during the Peyton years and they made relatively smart moves. Plus, Dungy was a proven HC. He had done well at TB too.

          • BerwynBomber

            The Mike Sherman years? But they didn’t win the SB.
            If I had to pick one guy of recent vintage, it would be Brees. NO seems like a god awful run franchise yet he managed to lead them an SB once.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

            A lot o QBs Ender.

            Wentz might be the latest entry.

            It’ll be a bumpy road towards that QB or Elite D, but gotta start the journey some time.

          • BearDown100393

            Aikman – Switzer

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Believe it or not but you have changed the perspective of some of the Cutler detractors here over the years. Personally, I respect Cutty way more than I used to but….the Bears are in full rebuild mode (it’s hard to argue against this) and he’s more valuable to this team on the trading block now. The future waits for no man.

        • SC Dave

          You mean Matt, right? 🙂

        • BerwynBomber

          Meh. Over the course of his career he threw to such guys as BMarsh, Alshon, Uni, Forte and even Olsen for a short spell. He also was given a solid O-line a few times, and top of the league defenses and STs a few years. And in Forte himself, one of the best all-around backs in the league for almost his entire stay in CHI.

          Cutty’s a mixed bag/an average NFL starter. Pros: fabulous arm, above average athleticism, decent ad-libbing and solid durability. Cons: poor at reading defenses, poor ball security, poor decision making and only average accuracy. The intangibles? I don’t know if there is any reason to bring those up.

          Can’t get on the “he deserved better” stuff.

      • SC Dave

        An accurate characterization of my attitude, although I’m not sure how much better the Jets are, tbh.

  • BerwynBomber

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog If Jay Cutler were playing Sunday, just as this previous Sunday, I’d pick the Bears to win. Brian Hoyer? Nope.”

    Cutler gives us the better chance but we’re 0-6 the last three years against DET, so his presence doesn’t provide a guaranteed W either.

    • PaceBot 2000

      I don’t think it’s appropriate to use 2013/2014 as part of analysis

      • BerwynBomber

        ’13? We were fifty seconds from winning the division/making the post-season.

        • PaceBot 2000

          talking about the Lions 0-6 figure.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      With that D allowing 7min drives, it won’t matter who QBs.

      By the 2nd Q, we’ll have 2 possessions and be down by 14 already.

  • Malice Halice

    Does anybody find the humor in that lame-ass “care bear” meme about da bears D? Mfs been showing me the pic all day and I just don’t find it funny. At all

    • BearDown100393

      13-3 shuts up dissenters.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

    From Biggsy 10 things. I joked during gametime, “LeWho?” LeThis

    4. In the doom and gloom, here is an interesting nugget. With Bryce Callahan out with a concussion, rookie Cre’Von LeBlanc, who was claimed off waivers from the Patriotsat final cuts, was the nickel cornerback. The Bears spent plenty of time in nickel but there wasn’t a lot of action that came LeBlanc’s direction. What’s so interesting? LeBlanc lit it up in practice last week with four interceptions and multiple other pass breakups. It made turning to the newcomer easier for the Bears when they learned Callahan would not be cleared from the concussion protocol.

    “For a week of practice, yeah, that’s a lot,” veteran cornerback Tracy Portersaid. “It’s not like he’s got a deal with the quarterback. They’re trying to complete it and get better. Anytime there is a young guy getting his hands on the ball as much as he did, deflections, interceptions, it is definitely going to catch your eye.”

    It’s tooearly to say if Callahan will return for next Sunday’s game against theLions. It would be interesting to see LeBlanc get more game action where he’s tested by the opponent. Put him into the fire and see what he
    can do.

    “When I repped it during the game it started to slow down,” LeBlanc said. “The big part for me is being consistent. It’s showing up for work, going into the office and correcting the mistakes Ihad and build off that.”

    The defense is suffering from a lack of takeaways. If LeBlanc can continue to get his hands on the ball in
    practice, the coaches will have to roll the dice with a young guy with hope he can replicate that action in the game.

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/ct-10-thoughts-bears-cowboys-biggs-20160926-story.html

    • willbest

      Callahan wasn’t on the injury report. I presume he has cleared concussion protocol.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      From Biggsy Mailbag

      http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/blog/ct-alshon-jeffery-ryan-pace-kyle-fuller-mailbag-20160928-story.html

      This is probably more appropriate for the offseason but I’m too frustrated to wait until March. Did Ryan Pace hire all new scouts when he got here or is the current scouting staff holdovers from the
      Phil Emery/Jerry Angelo eras? I know Josh Lucas and Champ Kelly were hired from New Orleans and Denver. I know they promoted Mark Sadowski from within to replace Joe Douglas. A team that has drafted as poorly asthe Bears have the past decade probably could use some new voices and/or ideas in the college scouting department. – David G.

      Pace has added some new scouts to the department since his arrival but many of the college scouts remain from the Emery regime and some date all the way back to Angelo’s time at Halas Hall. A lot of these scouts are highly regarded and to blame deficiencies in the draft on scouts that are way down the totem pole would be to miss the mark. It’s hard for a GM when he comes into a new organization to turn everything over too. Scouts have contracts and the scouts working for other clubs have contracts. You can’t just clean house and get proven, quality scouts you know hired and in place. I’d point out what Dave Gettleman did when he was hired as the GM of the Carolina Panthers in 2013. He inherited a coaching staff and a scouting staff and he has not fired anyone. The Panthers were in need of a serious overhaul when Gettleman got the job. Here’s what he said during Super Bowl week,
      according to Pro Football Talk: ““I said to myself, if I ever get one ofthese jobs, I’m determined to give everybody an opportunity. I just believe everybody deserves a shot. Firing people ain’t easy, and when you fire a coach or a scout, you fire all their wives and kids too.” Keep that in mind. Firing people isn’t easy and hiring better replacements isn’t always easy either.

      ———–

      Can SOMEBODY tell me who these “highly regarded” scouts have drafted that are any good, esp in the 1st?

      Some holdover from the Angelo era. The fucking ANGELO ERA!?

      Are you kidding me?!

      And we wonder why we keep drafting guys like Floyd and Grasu.

      • willbest

        In fairness, you don’t know what the scout report says.

        Perhaps when Angelo opened up his scouting report from the MAC scout he was distracted by all the jizz on Mo Wilkerson section and opted to draft the only Badger lineman not worth a damn this decade instead.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Angelo’s glaring weakness was the 1st round and offensive lineman selections. The rest of his picks weren’t too shabby. He just sucked when it counted the most.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        I hated the White pick last last year. DEFENSE was what I was hoping to address with out 1st pick.

  • BearDown100393

    John Fox: DNP today

    • CanadaBear

      His give a damn is busted.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      DNP – Did Not Poop?
      I hear old people sometimes have that problem.

      • BearDown100393

        Possible. Apparently he has ‘a gut’.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Live from Chicagoland…

    We got Trump in Bolingbrook
    SEALs fast rope from the Chinook
    Birdcage fails to get the hook
    It’s Knight to Bishop 5 take our Rook

    It’s two spider bites on the cock
    (http://www.livescience.com/56303-man-in-australia-gets-two-penis-spider-bites.html)
    Jeremy Langford undeserving of the rock
    Donald opens himself up for the immigrant sock
    Ain’t just Walter White be the man who knock

    Chicago Bears in the shitter again
    Been crap since Ohio had John Glenn
    It’s impossible to listen to God and stay Zen
    Did this all start with the Steelers and Big Ben?

    TV has the wife of the man who got the blowjob
    First Lady of pain on the air make my head throb
    Jerry Jones unconcerned by the cotton swab
    White racist america on Fox what a fat slob

    Live from Chicagoland….

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      Me so sorry?

  • That Guy

    In Fantasy Football I frequently will start D/ST options based solely on matchup. I drafted my D/ST this week and am starting them ahead of the Panthers normally stellar D for one reason – they’re playing probably the worst offense in the league.

    That’s right… I’m starting the Lions D because I think they have a realistic chance of blanking the Bears this week.

    Uch, I feel dirty.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      You beat GP to the D this week I guess!

      He’s been streaming every BirdCage opponent for like 3 weeks straight.

      Also, you might need a homerun against my squad.

      I’m going a bit safer with the Donkey’s D.

      • That Guy

        Week 1, I got killed because one of my running backs went to the hospital the morning of the game and the ESPN app crashed. That should have been a win.

        I left a ton of points on the bench week 2 as well, though that wasn’t such a close loss.

        I’ve got the horses on my roster. Just got to pick’em right.

    • MB30SD

      FF kills real football. You should feel dirty. NB!!!

      • That Guy

        Have to agree with you. I might take a year off after this one just to keep things fresh.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I’ve drafted offensive players just because “They play the Bears. Twice.”

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

    Wow. Was just talking about Coughlin.

    We might have to hurry up a dump Fox cuz supposedly he did, or did not, already enquire about the Bills’ job, never mind that Rex is still HC.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2016/09/28/nfl-tom-coughlins-agent-deny-meeting-with-pegulas-occurred/

    • willbest

      You think Coughlin could be the guy? Don’t think he is just looking for a couple more years of paychecks while he phones it in?

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

        Dunno if he’s the guy. He intrigues me though. And anyone who can beat Bill on the biggest stage TWICE deserves some consideration.

        But teams usually do the opposite when hiring coaches. IF the old HC was a fireball, the next one will be meek. If the old HC was old, the next will be young. If white, then black (J/k?)

        So I doubt we’re gonna replace Soup Plantation for Del Boca Vista anytime soon.

        Next HC probably will be some young hot shot, prolly from college.

        • willbest

          Harbaugh!

  • willbest

    Early returns for non-football fall premiere week are coming in, and they aren’t good either (down double digits). So that suggests Kaep and Co. are not affecting the NFL so much as there is a general trend away from live TV. That being said advertisers like their eyeballs as much as they do market share, so that could definitely have implications if viewership really is off 10%.

  • Bernie Cohen

    This is the first time I can remember the Bears are #32 in the power rankings. Not surprised. As a Bear fan, watching their games is really frustrating.

    • AlbertInTucson

      A ranking I cannot argue with.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That might be a little high.

  • AlbertInTucson

    With apologies to Jeff Foxworthy…

    If you KNOW the opponent’s rookie QB or running back is going to have their BREAKOUT game against YOUR team, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your team’s Head coach answers the question “Why didn’t you run the ball more?” with “That’s a good question.”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your team’s defensive coordinator is supposed to be a minor “GENIUS” but his defense constantly gives up TDs on opponent’s opening drives like a hot knife through butter AND his personnel decisions MYSTIFY you, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your team’s defensive coordinator’s personnel choices also mystify your teams head coach, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your team’s best days happened before you were BORN, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your team completely TRASHES the concept of “Home Advantage”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you don’t mind going 2-14 as long as you beat the Packers twice, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If a Browns fan looks at you and feels better about themselves, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your team’s opponents look at the schedule and think “THERE’S a ‘W’ !”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you see your team at #32 in latest NFL power rankings and think, “That might be a little high.”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If Al Michaels GIGGLES while describing your defense’s play, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you consider yourself LUCKY if your team hits on a first round draft pick once every 5 or 6 years,
    you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you look longingly back to the Lovie Smith era as “The Good old Days”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you DREAD your team being on Sunday Night/Monday Night/Thursday Night football, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your child looks at you and says “Dad, do I have to wear your team’s jersey?”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If that smoldering pile of leaves in your yard also has some of your team’s NFL gear in it, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you were raised in New jersey and people ask “You do a Blog for WHO?”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If people ask you “Is the glass half-empty or half-full” and you tell ’em, “Oh, It’s COMPLETELY empty.”,
    you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you think Walter Payton is now buried WELL below 6 feet because he’s constantly spinning in his grave, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you kinda of wish moving vans WOULD show up at your team’s facility in the dead of night,
    you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you think of your team every time Peter Boyle yells “Holy CRAP” on “Everybody Loves Raymond” repeats, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If you hold your breath every time your team’s QB drops back to pass, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    If your offensive coordinator looks like, and calls plays like, a character from a Robin Williams movie, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    And last, but not least…

    If you steal material from Jeff Foxworthy and Burma-Shave to amuse yourself on your team’s blog, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    • RenoBear

      Absolutely spot on and beautiful Al! Holding your breath when your QB drops back to pass is sooo true. And the lovie smith. And the dread of prime time, and and and… Well all of em my friend. Nice friggin work man

      • AlbertInTucson

        Thank you.

        “Even a blind squirrel…”

        • Johnnywad

          Monday was the first time I woke up thinking, “Man if we can just get a couple Ws and they’re against the Packers, I can find a way to live with it.”

          Ugh

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    • AlbertInTucson

      If your team puts together THE best defense the NFL has ever seen and it only gets ONE Super Bowl appearance, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd PoohBahs (AKA ButchDeadlift)

      Bravo!

      JEFF, MAKE THIS A THREAD!

      Even if it’s the gameday thread

    • MB30SD

      If you look longingly back to the Lovie Smith era as “The Good Old Days”, you MIGHT be a Bears fan!

      AL!!! Stop that (one)!

      • AlbertInTucson

        Sorry. They were like potato chips. Once I started….

        • MB30SD

          they were excellent, just not that damn one.

  • MB30SD
  • MB30SD

    this watch… http://uncrate.com/stuff/mbf-hm8-watch/… is $82k.

    $8…..$2…. K.

    • AlbertInTucson

      For me, another “Even if I had the money to piss away on it I wouldn’t want it.” item

      • MB30SD

        thing is fugly

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Any team missing their three best defensive players and starting quarterback is going to struggle”.

    Unless, of course, your opponent is The Bears.

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