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Across The Middle — Week 6

| October 12th, 2016

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Well, now what?

The loss to the Colts may have been the most disappointing of the season to me because it ended any chance the Bears had of becoming relevant this season.

I didn’t think they’d make the playoffs but I expected the Bears to be relevant. I expected them to a be a team nobody wanted to play and I expected to see serious signs of growth. A win over Indianapolis would’ve put them at 2-3 with a  chance to go 3-3 next week before they played the Packers in a Thursday night game. At that point, anything would’ve been possible.

But they lost to the Colts, a bad team. Making the loss worse, they Colts are a bad team that was coming off of a trip to another country, while the Bears were coming off of their first win. It was a game the Bears had to win and didn’t.

There are still bright spots this season and I can see the light at the end of the tunnel. I think the Bears have a very good GM and a lot of excellent young talent. They actually have a better record through Pace’s first 21 games than the Packers did with Ted Thompson. But that doesn’t make me feel better today.

There’s always next year, for most of us anyway. Depending on how the rest of this season goes, that could bring some very difficult questions.

The biggest question is the coach and there is no easy answer.

John Fox has to start wining games soon if he’s going to be back next year. At the very least, they have to stop losing them the way they’ve been losing them, making the same stupid mistakes every week.

Say Pace fires Fox, who does he bring in?

Jim Harbaugh? He’ll wants Pace’s job too and we have no idea if he can handle that.

Kyle Shanahan? Is he a grown up yet?

Josh McDaniels? Oh boy…

The Bears are in a tough spot.

There’s also the question about the quarterback. We’ll spend the rest of this season debating who should start right now while Pace seems to be getting more aggressive in trying to find his guy, scouting the Clemson QB (I won’t memorize his name until after the season) in person last week.

I have confidence in Ryan Pace. But I hate that I’m already talking about the offseason. I want the team to start winning. Sunday was a prime opportunity. They screwed the pooch.

Cutler=Win?

Like most people, I believe Jay Cutler would’ve thrown the game-winning touchdown pass to Alshon Jeffery on Sunday. Unlike most people, I’m not sure Cutler playing means the Bears would’ve won.

As DBB readers are well aware, I’m a big fan of Cutler. I’m also a strong believer that defense is what wins games. I have no confidence the Bears could’ve stopped the Colts from scoring even if the Bears got the go-ahead touchdown pass. When the Colts needed points, they didn’t even have to work for them.

But, my questions are more about the quarterback play. It’s easy to say the Bears would’ve scored more points with Cutler, but is there any real evidence that that is the case? It’s all speculation.

Maybe Cutler makes the throw to Jeffery late, but does he make the throw to Howard for the go-ahead touchdown earlier in the game? I doubt it.

It’s also easy to blame Hoyer for the fact that they didn’t score more points, but I think that’s unwarranted. On their first drive, they went from a first-and-10 at the 35 to a first-and-25. They still picked up the first down. Later in that same drive, they should’ve had a first-and-goal inside the one, but a face mask penalty pushed them back to a second-and-17.

Later in the game, Hoyer threw what should’ve been a first down pass inside the 15-yard line to Eddie Royal, but Royal fumbled. On third-and-two, Hoyer and Royal connected for a first down again, but Kyle Long was called for holding.

I don’t care who the quarterback is, when the players around them keep messing up like that it’s so hard to score points.

Maybe the Bears would’ve scored a lot more points with Cutler. Maybe. But they need to stop making stupid mistakes around the QB position.

What The &#$%?

• Why is Mitch Unrein rushing the passer as part of a three-man rush on second and third down with more than 10 yards to go?

• Why are they rushing three — and never more than four — in long-distance situations against a team that can’t protect their quarterback?

• Why is Chris Prosinski playing over Deon Bush?

• Why is Deonte Thompson still returning kicks?

• Why is Logan Paulsen so useless?

• Why don’t they try game-planning during the week so they can get stops early in the game?

• Why can’t Bryce Callahan just stay healthy?

• Connor Barth.

From The Chart

• I had Hoyer with 11 inaccurate passes on Sunday, certainly more than you’d like to see given the near-perfect protection he had. One of those passes was a throw away and a couple appeared to be miscommunications. The big one came on the last play. I can forgive him for not seeing Alshon wide open, but at least make a good pass. He did a lot to keep them in the game, but he didn’t give them a shot to win it on that play.

• Jordan Howard was credited with 10 broken tackles on my chart. Part of that was the fact they were playing a terrible defense (five other players were credited with at least one broken tackle), but it’s clear Howard has the goods.

• I had the Bears’ offensive line down for just three quarterback disruptions. That’s incredible. It would be hard for a QB not to play well with that kind of protection. I also had them down for 4.5 bad runs, but they were dominant on quite a few plays too.

• In addition to his three sacks, I had WIllie Young with three hurries, giving him six disruptions in the game. This is the kind of game Young needed to have against a bad opponent. All of the best pass rushers rack up sacks against subpar tackles.

Bring on The Jags

There could not have been a team more ripe for a loss than the Colts were last week, so I’m having a difficult time being optimistic about the Bears chances against the team that beat the Colts in London.

The Jags are disappointing to those idiots who picked them to be good this year — which pretty much guaranteed they’d be bad. Blake Bortles makes about five really bad throws a game and they don’t run the ball well, but they have good receivers and we’ve seen what good receivers can do to the Bears.

If the Bears are remotely healthy in the secondary (in other words if Jacoby Glenn and Chris Prosinski aren’t playing) I think they can match-up well. The Bears have struggled with speed receivers and neither of Jacksonville’s studs fit that description.

If they are playing Glenn and relying on Sam Acho and Mitch Unrein to give them pass-rush, it really doesn’t matter who the Bears are playing against because it won’t go well.

I expect another efficient performance from Brian Hoyer in which they move the ball reasonably well, but I don’t know if that’s enough.

Of course, it would help if they could kick a frickin’ field goal.

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  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Fair comments Andrew. Team Chemistry will only get better and I like what I’m seeing in some of the Bears rooks. This team will win some games this year as they start to find themselves. We’re 1-0 in the division and that’s where I’m going to focus on.

    • MB30SD

      I would be more than ok being 6-10… as long as we sweep the division.

      Who’s with me…. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!

      • Scharfinator

        Gosh that’s hard. I’d really rather 3-13 if we’re going to be under .500 for draft picks. Those two other wins are when we pound Erin’s vag.

        • MB30SD

          Hmmmmmmm, good point.

          Hard, pound erin’s vag. I think I’m….. in.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          It’s a difficult choice. I’d still like the Bears to be the vagina’s in G.B. It’s gonna happen.

      • BearDown100393

        12-4

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Andrew and Jeff hate Mitch Unrein.

    • Bender McLugh

      he doesn’t shed double-teams but he really shouldn’t be expected to. McPhee is back when?

      • Scharfinator

        Get that HGH pumpin.

        What if they figured out a PED that stopped CTE development? Imagine how much that would change the NFL.

        • Bender McLugh

          nanobots to the rescue!

          • Scharfinator

            Just let robots play

          • Huge Bears Penis

            sounds good, but we all know the NFL would end up putting GoBots on the field instead of the superior Transformers because they are cheaper.

          • MB30SD

            Mechwar?

    • MB30SD

      I don’t hate him, I just want him to be our fullback on erra single 3rd and short and were run play inside the 20

    • BearDown100393

      And Brian Hoyer

      • willbest

        Hoyer kicks puppies in his free time though. So its good hate.

    • BearDown100393

      And Daniel Braverman

      • MB30SD

        HOFer!!!!!

        You’re welcome hbp

  • Bender McLugh

    “but does he make the throw to Howard for the go-ahead touchdown earlier in the game? I doubt it.”

    Right, because he never did that with Forte. I don’t agree with you on this Jeff.

    Edit: Andrew! ha, sorry bruh

    • Andrew Dannehy

      Forte’s receiving TDs were almost always on designed routes. Howard’s was after Hoyer made a quick decision to check down.

      • Bender McLugh

        okay, I concede the point only slightly….I still think Cutty can make the check downs.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        Hoyer always makes a quick decision to check down.

        • SC Dave

          True. Costs is we dink and dumk a lot. Gain is zero turnovers and a very low sack %.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            and miss wide open players for big plays.

          • But sometimes “dink dunk” gets a bad rap. According to Biggsy

            “Chicago Bears put up 522 yards offense, their most since Week 3 of the 1989 season, only to lose to the Colts 29-23 Sunday afternoon at Lucas Oil Stadium.”

            Give me that dink-sunk any sunday.

          • chitownproud85

            Logic. +1

  • Bender McLugh

    Andrew – I’m curious what the chart shows for the last set of downs for each drive only. This is the source, at least for me, of frustration with Hoyer vs. Cutler.

    • Andrew Dannehy

      Off the top of my head, I think the last pass was Hoyer’s only inaccurate pass in the last three possessions. I believe he was 12/14-143-TD. I don’t remember the other incompletion in there.

      • Bender McLugh

        woah…..thanks man. My guess is the drive killing penalties are messing with my memory of the game. That’s what I get for not going back to rewatch.

        • SC Dave

          It was indeed the penaltes that killed us.

  • Bender McLugh

    “I think time-wise he’d still have a shot to come back at some point in the season,” Bears head coach John Fox confirmed on Monday.

    PLEASE no. Good lord.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/chicago-bears/bears-wide-receiver-kevin-white-set-have-leg-surgery

    • willbest

      I wonder how it feels as a owner to give $15 million to somebody that doesn’t do anything because the guy you pay $6 million a year to says its a good idea.

    • PaceBot 2000

      “time wise” doesn’t mean he will. Time to put Kevin on the shelf and try again next year.

      • willbest

        I just hope when they dust him off next year, they don’t do the bullshit where they treat him as a #7 over all selection again.

  • Christopher Thompson

    • Why is Deonte Thompson still returning kicks? Why not? Curious on your reason

    • willbest

      I think that is more a comment on his knack for not kneeing in the endzone.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      Because he is shitty.

    • chitownproud85

      Because apparently Deonte enjoys starting drives at 15 instead of the 25. Just a guess though.

  • The Ghost of Super Bowl XX

    “At the very least, they have to stop losing them the way they’ve been losing them, making the same stupid mistakes every week.” There is a reason Elway cut Foxy, and will figure it out little by little.

  • willbest

    Bears aren’t likely to get Harbaugh. He would probably owe UMich $30 million if he coaches in the NFL before the end of his contract with them. Bears aren’t going to pay that on top of giving him a 5-year $7.5 mil deal and turn over player personnel control.

    Plus in college his name alone allows him to compete for the top talent who still get to choose where they go. In the NFL you have salary caps and drafts inhibiting that, and the Bears roster is a dumpster fire. You bring him in next year and you are talking about starting over again and 2019 being the year to compete.

    • BearDown100393

      Harbaugh and Cutler = peas and carrots

    • MB30SD

      You all know my coach crush is strongest with jimmy. He’d have us 2 deep into the playoffs within two seasons.

      But yeah, after he takes his boys to the title this year, he ain’t going nowheres… Until two years from now they can’t take him any more. Then we’ll be waiting in the shadows to pounce… like my buddies at last call

      • willbest

        We have to suffer Fox for 4 season… if I knew that I would have broken something when they hired him.

        • MB30SD

          Nah, doubt that if this keeps up.

          You know my contention… fox isn’t the same coach after he had his heart attack…. but he was still trading on the old foxy name, and that’s what we bought. What we got was a guy who was prolly ready to retire and say fuck dis but the $$$$ was too good to turn down.

          Whoops

        • BerwynBomber

          My guess is he gets three to turn it around in a big way; i.e., four would have to follow a very goals-realized third season. Nothing less than a playoff appearance, I suppose.

      • CanadaBear

        Keep in mind he’s perfect for college. After 4 years with him players want to kill him. Problem solved.

        • MB30SD

          It’s not the players, it’s the administration… and they ain’t goin anywheres

  • BerwynBomber

    Would’ve been interested in Andrew’s thoughts on Glenn. He hints to the fact that he thinks he sucks, but more explanation would have been welcome.

    In terms of Willie Young, how long before teams begin treating him like the defensive version of Alshon? Five games into the season, he’s basically the only guy we have resembling a consistent pass rusher. Seems like opposing teams would be wise to at least chip him on every drop-back.

    • MB30SD

      Man, what happened… dline looked so bad ass coming into pre season. Injuries suck… and so does spinner floyd. Sigh

      Thank goodness we didn’t take that pothead tunsil or that tweeter Joseph. Smfh

      • I was worried about DL depth. Bullard hasn’t stepped up as much as I hoped, and their best DL (Goldman) has missed most of the season so far.

    • need a healthy McPhee back badly.

      • Big Mike

        Goldman

        • McPhee matters more for pass rush, IMO. That moves Young to 2nd fiddle, where he should eat in 1-on-1s.

          • Big Mike

            With above average play at NT in a 3-4 the entire pass rush gets better.

      • Agree. He was our pass rush, and gives vanilla Fangio some flexibility to disguise shit or use different formations.

  • Big Mike

    I love the Bears, but am resigned to the fact that they are awful. 🙁

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah, but then again, no one but MIN looks like world-beaters in our division. GB sits at 3-1, but their total point differential is a lowly +14, they have beaten no one, and Rodgers (except for a few brilliant plays) looks like a bum. And DET … well, they’re DET.

      • willbest

        Be that as it may, we aren’t in the AFCS where whoever gets to 8 wins is going to carry the division. So our season is “over”

        • BerwynBomber

          Oh, a playoff run seems out of the picture, of course. I just meant we could be competitive in most of our remaining games outside of MIN.

          • If we can run it on the Vikes, we’ll have a chance.

            If not, it might get ugly.

            Maybe the Falcons showed the blueprint to beating good Ds.

            Use HB in pass game (However, we no longer have Jizz-type back for that)

          • willbest

            Howard has caught like 85% of the balls thrown at him.

          • Yeah, he’s an underated catcher, but he’s no Tevin Coleman burning guys off wheel routes.

            Langford was supposed to fill that role for us, but aside from being inj, he has stonehands.

            Jizz would’ve been nice right about now to give O more options.. Oh well.

    • All I asked for this season is to be competitive, and hopefully surprise us with 8-9 victories.

      Since Hoyer has been in, we have been competitive.

      (purely coincidental as Cutty backers will claim Birdcage too a genius pill – see handle)

      No more of those zombie team that sleep walk through halfs.

      We’re running the ball chicago style, while spreading the ball around to everyone, keeping them more involved.

      Ironically, I think Fangio is the problem now. He lacks balls, esp on 3rd downs. He’ not creative. He essential runs a Lovie D, but without Tommie, Lach or Pepp.

      I think that’s our biggest problem right now. We get some more pressure (and make a fucking kick, and cut down on penalties), we’re talking about 3-3.

      I said since last year that our BIGGEST opponent is the “loser mentality”.

      Bears must learn how to win. It usually happens in a tense comeback game. That hasn’t taken place yet.

      But heck, the Lions just beat the undefeated Eagles.

      Anything is possible.

      As long as we keep running, chewing up clock, and PROTECTING the ball on O, we should be in most games (if pussy Fangio becomes more aggressive).

      • willbest

        Um… the ball moved okay in the first half against Houston outside of typical first possession Fox. Cutler injured his thumb in the Houston game. And then agrivated it against the Eagles. So we know dick all about Cutler. But we do know for a fact that the play calling in weeks 4 & 5 were dramatically different than 1-3.

        • Yes, genius pill.

          • willbest

            Well you were factually wrong. Hoyer started in Dallas and the game was never competitive. So it hasn’t been since Hoyer has been in we have been competitive. So there is no Cutler coincidence.

            We do know the Bears got competitive when the play calling noticeably changed along with the starting RB in game 4.

          • I think we all discount the game Hoyer inherited from Cutler (and even then, he did much better than Cutler, even though it was prevent D).

            There’s also the STRONG possibility that even IF Birdcage suddenly did a 180, it was because he trusted Hoyer to run a different playbook.

            But, either way, results are in.

          • willbest

            heh. You got that backwards.

            The game he inherited from Cutler was the Eagles game. Which incidentally was competitive at half time (so was the Texan’s game). Who knows when he injured his thumb against the Texans, but we know when he aggravated it against the Eagles.

            The game that wasn’t competitive at any point was the Dallas game, and that was all Hoyer. Now you assure me garbage time should count, and Hoyer played a phenomenal game. And if that is the case, then you are conceding the point to me that its Birdcage and not Hoyer that matters. Because as you have argued Hoyer has been solid since week 2 in relief of Jay. In fact, he has been lights out. So why were we competitive in week 4 & 5 but not 3 if Hoyer is playing great?

            Its Birdcage, and he isn’t genius but he doesn’t suck as bad as we thought he did. The game plan in Dallas was Jay’s game plan. He even tried to practice one day that week. Now there should have had a better contingency in case Jay couldn’t go but you only have so much practice time in a week.

            In week 4, the assumptions changed. He knew Hoyer was QB, Howard was RB, and he would have to scheme for Massie. Hoyer couldn’t handle the game plan he had for Cutler in weeks 1-3 (though to be fair, neither could Jay). So he changed it to better suit the QB he knew was playing.

            And its a solid game plan, if the penalties can be avoided. Regular 12-14 play drives will grind down a defense before too long as long as you can prevent from going backwards.

          • Big Mike

            O-line began to get in sync.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’d cut Fangio some slack given our available D personnel. Said somewhere else but WillieY is basically our only pass rusher thru five games. I like WillieY. I give him a lot of credit for making the 3-4 transition. He’s played well. He’s 33 and not just cashing a check. But if WillieY is basically you’re only guy resembling a consistent pass rusher, you’re not bringing much heat. Factor in too the Trevathan injury, along with McPhee and Goldman injuries, and Fangio has some legit excuses.

        P.S. I don’t care much about the secondary injuries as I still don’t know what we have there though I like Callahan’s play and the potential of Hall.

        • That’s what we said all last year, and it ended up getting us a top 10 pick.

          I don’t think Fangio should blitz on every play, but he MUST blitz more in critical spots, and DISGUISE his blitzes.

          I don’t know how many 3rd and longs we give up, but it’s a lot, and it’s usually cuz the QB has 10 seconds to look for a WR like Hilton to get open.

          • CanadaBear

            We picked in the top 10. Not sure we got a top 10 pick.

        • willbest

          He is 31 now. The ages I listed below are how old they would be in 2018. Which is why as much as I like Willie its clear he is a transition guy instead of somebody we can push for glory with if we happened to be competitive this year.

          • BerwynBomber

            Gracias.

      • Big Mike

        It’s not Hoyer. It’s the o-line and the opponents. Cutler’s better than Hoyer. Team is still awful. Special Teams are bad, defense is bad, offense is bad. … Team is awful.

  • willbest

    To further think if we switch coaches next year, that year isn’t a competitive year so that takes us to 2018.

    What pieces do we have that exceed JAG for 2018 assuming we sign/extend some of them.

    Oline – Whitehair, Long, Leno (Sitton will be 32)

    QB – none
    TE – none (Miller will be 34)

    RB – Howard
    WR – Jeffery, Meredith (Royal will be 32)

    Dline – Hicks
    LBs – Trevathan, McPhee (29), Freeman (32), Young (33)
    DBs – Amos, Callahan

    • Bender McLugh

      Sitton stays on unless injury takes hold of him.

    • BerwynBomber

      Said this before but what complicates matters is MIN looking like SEA part 2. Even if they lose Bradford, and AP never returns to form, they look like a team that can still win nine or ten games a season with Shaun Hill providing a Neckbeard circa ’05 performance.

      The Cheese’s title window looks closed — unless they shitcan McCarthy and find a quick upgrade — but they could still be a tough out if Rodgers pulls his shit together.

      Hate to admit it, but the wiggle room for us the next couple of years could be awfully tight. And hell, as bad as he played against us, even Stafford has been upping his game for DET.

      • willbest

        Apparently Megatron was a crutch holding him back. Who knew.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, weird.

        • Zeroing in on WRs is not necessarily a good attribute.

          As a matter of fact, it’s usually a symptom of a rookie QB.

    • Johnnywad

      Did you really include Meredith after one game?

      • willbest

        2 games, and I assume he will enroll in Trump University’s Grip Strength through Pussy Grabbing Course in the off season.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          Is that the only course that wasn’t a scam at Trump U?

          • willbest

            What makes you think it wasn’t a scam? Neither of the two girls involved have stated it happened. Although they have found some 15-minute fame whores to come forward today and claim he did it decades ago and they just remembered when the video came out it happened to them too.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            SMH… it was a joke. Trump U was definitely a scam, noted by the lawsuits against it and the former employees that said it was a scam.
            http://www.nytimes.com/2016/06/01/us/politics/donald-trump-university.html?_r=0

          • willbest

            No the class I made up, could also be a scam.

  • Why couldn’t the Bears have been good 20 yrs ago when I gave a shit about baseball!?

    Though if the Dodgers and Cubs end up playing, might actually watch a baseball game at a bar for the first time in years.

  • chitownproud85

    Ive gone from dreading Andrew columns because he appeared an insufferable homer that spent all his characters telling us how members of this Bears team “could be the best/one of the best/bestest is best at their positions” when the statement just seemed….comical. I dont know what happened, or maybe I’m just reading him differently now…but I pine for Andrew and Jeff just makes me LOL with his flip flopping. Another great column that I think will make sense to people who have eye balls and common sense. Will likely fluster those who are Bear-polar.

    Boom.

  • I’m no genius – I only play one on tv –

    But isn’t the point of a bend-dont’-break D holding opponents to FGs?

    And wouldn’t the flip side to that is the ability to MAKE FGs?

    In other words, WTF IS BARF STILL ON THE TEAM?!

    This is worse than drafting Grasu, or letting Slauson go.

    • PaceBot 2000

      Who decided that we now run a Defense predicated on bend don’t break? Good teams have defenses that fucking make stops on drives and force punts and score occasionally themselves and don’t forget taking the fucking ball away.
      Teams that don’t do that don’t fucking win.

      We give up crucial 3rd and 4th downs like it’s going out of style.

      • Fangio still believes he’s playing with Aldon Smith or something. He assumes his D can get to the QB with only 4 (or even 3!).

        Somebody ought to slap him and remind him he’s starting Unrein, and not Smith.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      Pace Face Save

  • So I heard the Cubbies pulled a Bears-Cards comeback last night.

    And how many fans went to sleep?

    • willbest

      It was pretty crazy. Down 3 runs, down to their last 3 outs… Bam 4 runs.

      The game the night before however went to like 2am. Why does MLB hate its viewers. Could somebody explain that?

      • Wow. Man, should’ve jumped on the Cubbies a few months back when some of you guys said they were good.

        But I’m conditioned to expect them to lose in soul-crushing fashion.

        • PaceBot 2000

          you should live your life with more courage.

          haha, when it comes to your sports teams. The post came off a little harsh.

          • 108 yrs…

          • PaceBot 2000

            this Cubs team is fucking fearless….and I don’t even like baseball. I actually watched 30 fucking games this year which is more than I had watched since 2005 White Sox.
            It’s amazing to behold.

          • I think the only thing that could make me tune into a baseball game now a days is a Cubby World Series, so I shall check out some games.

          • MB30SD

            Or naked ball girls…. all 6s of course

        • Huge Bears Penis

          they are going to lose in a soul-crushing fashion.

          • That’s the spirit!

          • Huge Bears Penis

            I am a Cardinals fan so I am actually hoping it happens in a weird soul-crushing way.

          • Hater!

            Here, maybe this makes you feel better

            #Bears are still paying Marc Trestman as part of the 4-year contract he signed when hired in 2013. – Biggsy

          • Huge Bears Penis

            i just threw up in my mouth.

          • willbest

            I wonder if what the Bears owe him increased now that the Ravens fired him.

          • Huge Bears Penis

            BTW – I hear Lovie is looking for an OC at Illinois.

          • Joecashflow

            Mckaskys deserve it.

          • MB30SD

            Yep, at least we’re working on a city-wide sports team pathos

      • Huge Bears Penis

        the game the night before was 5 hours long. they are also playing a west coast team so they usually start the games as late as possible to get the largest viewership.

        • MB30SD

          Turning into cricket. Uhhhgggg

    • AlbertInTucson

      Matt Moore pitchde 8 quality inning.

      But he threw 120 pitches so Bochy went to his bullpen.

      In they came with gas can after gas can and KABLOOEY. The game was tied before the Giants could get an out.

      Then Chapman came in in the bottom of the 9th showed that whatever the Cubs gave up to get him, they got a bargain.

      • SC Dave

        Should have let him finish, obviously. Complete games are, in the modern era of pandered players, a rarity.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Different times. “Deadball” era.

          Same with DiMaggio’s 56 game hitting streak. You’ll never see the likes of it again.

          He often saw the same pitcher 3 times in a game and the concept of (Set-up men” & “Closers” hadn’t been invented.

        • AlbertInTucson

          It it had been Bumgarner, they’d have at least let him start the 9th.

          Moore at 120 pitches doesn’t get the same courtesy.

          I sure wouldn’t ask the croupier for a new set of dice if I’d just made 7 or 8 successful passes, though.

          “50% of this game is 90% mental” (Yogi Berra).

          Moore was clearly in the Cubbies collective heads and I’m sure they got a psychological boost just by not seeing him take the mound in the 9th.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Unless Moore went to Bochy and said “I’m done” they should have at least let him START the 9th. They sure would have sent Bumgarner back out there.

          “50% of the game is 90% mental” – Yogi Berra

          I’m sure the Cubbies got a little psychological boost just from not seeing Moore take the mound in the 9th.

          Cy Young. Great, yes, but such a different era.The “Dead Ball” era.

          DiMaggio’s hitting streak is another record that won’t be touched.
          He’d often face the same pitcher in a game 3 times and the concepts of “Set-up Men” or “Closers” didn’t exist. Neither did 94MPH sliders.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    The old Lion performs Black Dog with a Funkadelic/Celtic vibe

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNglj6yHJso

  • AlbertInTucson

    “There could not have been a team more ripe for a loss than the Colts were last week, so I’m having a difficult time being optimistic about the Bears chances against the team that beat the Colts in London.”

    I’ll save you a spot in the line, Andrew.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    This Hoyer season is growing on me.”

    Make sure it’s not poison ivy, athlete’s foot or excema.

    • Huge Bears Penis

      growing like a cancer, going to have to get that checked out.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      anal warts

      • AlbertInTucson

        EW!

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    “There are so many pussies around your presidential campaign on both sides that I prefer not to comment, about such pussy grab.” – Russian Foreign Minister Segey Lavrov to CNN

    • PaceBot 2000

      that would have been awesome.

    • willbest

      Saw a graph that CBS, NBC, ABC have spent 198 minutes talking about pussy and 19 minutes talking about wikileaks (which if they were being released about anybody but the DNC presidential candidate would have ended their political career)

      Meanwhile, Putin has canceled a trip to France and ordered all the family of essential personnel home.

      Country is fucked.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        True story: MB once spent 198 minutes talking to pussy.

        • willbest

          Like straight, or is that his lifetime total?

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            I’m not sure, I’m not his official statistician. Data? Can you tell us?

          • MB30SD

            Straight

      • willbest

        oh apparently the trumpkins have found some Asian Clinton staffer talking about grabbing ass and demanding he be fired. And then there is the footage of Obama showing off his erection to female reporters in 2008. And supposed bill’s bastard son is bask in the news.

        We should just randomly select 500 US citizens with at least high school degrees, lock them in a room until they appoint one of them as President. This whole voting for people is a failed experiment.

    • In Soviet Russa, icy pussy grab you!

      • willbest

        You sold me on communism.

      • Huge Bears Penis

        i lost a finger that way.

        • Scharfinator

          lol!

      • MB30SD

        Hahahahaha

    • SC Dave
  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Speaking of nation of pussies, the French police let this guy walk after smashing all the phones in a Apple store with a big ball bearing.

    https://twitter.com/Shiny_Apples/status/781821039487713281/video/1

    In Texas, they would have just shot him dead.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    The woman SINGING the national anthem at the Sac Kings game took a knee while singing it, in solidarity with Kap.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/first-national-anthem-singer-sacramento-175741944.html#comments

    Kaptain Amerikkka!

    • According to Will, that trend would go the way of the Macarana!

      Instead, it became a movement.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        THat and Wikileaks had bombs and not firecrackers

    • willbest

      You need to be careful with the NBA. They don’t F around. They don’t care if you are a billionaire, they will take away your team. And if you happen to be investigating one of their players for rape… well they will just suicide you.

      • SC Dave

        You misspelled “the Clintons”.

      • AlbertInTucson

        It’s a club.

        If you piss-off enough other members, they kick you out.

        It wasn’t like he didn’t get paid for the franchise though.

        • willbest

          Sure but being forced to sell like that can really F up your tax avoidance strategies.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He’s rich. He has top money launderers, er, accountants.

    • Sactowns#1

      I was there for that. It was the first game played in that arena. Pretty nice set up.

      • Freddy G.P. Soft

        Did they boo her?

        • Sactowns#1

          Nope. I think a lot of people didn’t even see it. I didn’t. One thing I did see, was aguy telling his little 5 year old son to take his hat off and the kid said “why?”. I kinda had the same thought. What strange rituals we adhere to.

          • willbest

            How do you show respect?

          • Sactowns#1

            During the anthem? Depends, am I there in person and is there a live performer? Stand silently, sometimes with my head down. Most other circumstances I go about my business.

          • willbest

            It was more of a general question. The standing for the Anthem in silence, with head uncovered. Its a demonstration of unity with the others present that you are all one people, that you are grateful for the opportunity you have been provided, and that you respect (for the most part) the system that has brought you all together.

            If you don’t have these “silly” rituals, how do you go about demonstrating to others that they are not alone, and that you are with them? Meaningless rituals shouldn’t be adhered to but then many rituals aren’t meaningless, they only appear this way because the context was lost to time because the ritual was passed on without the explanation of the meaning.

            Now you might think that national togetherness is out of place at a sporting event, but
            1) How often do 20k+ people find themselves together in the same place sharing a moment
            2) Its probably a good idea to remind everybody before they divide up into Red v. Blue that we are all one big team.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            IN Europe, National Anthems are not played before soccer matches or any sporting event of private teams. It is not played here for rock concerts (unless it’s Metallica) or any other event besides football and hockey. Many baseball parks do not play the anthem.

          • willbest

            Different objectives?

            Every time a country in Europe gets it into their collective their heads they can do anything the whole continent goes to shit.

            In the US, we have at least two dozen distinct cultures we have to get to play nice together or this continent might go to shit.

          • Freddy G.P. Soft

            I told a black guy I was arguing with once that I would give up St. Patrick’s Day and all the stoooopid ChiRish marketing bullshit if he would stop talking about African heritage and racial bias.

            That, at some point, we were either all Americans first and apt to treat each other as equals under the premises laid out by Madison in the Federalist Papers, or we would inevitably break back into tribalism of the kind that caused the Serbs to slaughter Croatians.

            He didn’t buy it and told me to fuck off.

          • willbest

            Some things can be merged. You don’t need Irish pride to dress up in green and get sloshed on a Wednesday. Its like the Christians coming along and saying nice Winter Solstice, we need a date to celebrate the birth of our Savior. It can become an American drinking day.

            But the active taking pride in something that another can not be a part of will drive a wedge between people. Especially if they insist on making a big deal out of it.

          • BerwynBomber

            Much as I love a good pub the ChiRish shit does get old.

          • Are cops killing the Irish at the same rate as Af Am?

            If so, fair trade.

            If not…maybe he’s just a black Liam Neelson

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hMkz-Mrxs-c

    • AlbertInTucson

      Hillary’s America.

  • BearDown100393
  • AlbertInTucson

    “I don’t care who the quarterback is, when the players around them keep messing up like that it’s so hard to score points.”

    Yup.

    • SC Dave

      Best comment this season from Jeff/Andrew.

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        It’s immpossible to limit Jeff’s uniqueness down to one comment.

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  • SC Dave

    Six straight wins and we’ll be damn relevant.

    Of course, we’ll get all hopeful and then finish 8-8

    • willbest

      Matthew must have dumped some wicked Atlantic Ocean koolaid on you.

      • SC Dave

        Actually, I was on the Bartram Trail and missed the whole thing.

        It would jist be so Bears-like, dontcha think? Especially if bad coaches and GMs got extensions for it.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      Lol

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    Is it time for a parable?

    A scorpion asks a frog to carry it across a river. The frog hesitates, afraid of being stung, but the scorpion argues that if it did so, they would both drown. Considering this, the frog agrees, but midway across the river the scorpion does indeed sting the frog, dooming them both. When the frog asks the scorpion why, the scorpion replies that it was in its nature to do so.

    • Freddy G.P. Soft

      This parable applies to:

      A) Trump
      B) Brandon Marshall
      C) Marc Trestman
      D) All of the Above.

      • BearDown100393

        Barth asks John Fox for the opportunity to kick a game winning field goal on 4th and goal line. John Fox hesitates, afraid of losing the game when Howard is available to carry the rock easily for the score. But Barth argues that if he misses the field goal, he would be cut before Fox is fired. Considering this, John Fox agrees. But with game time officially expired during the FG attempt, Barth does indeed miss putting the ball through the uprights and the Bears lose the game. When John Fox asks Barth why he missed an easy chip shot, Barth replies that it was in in his nature to do so, being a crappy but cheaper kicker than Robbie Gould.

        • Huge Bears Penis

          in a non bizarro world Barth would have been cut 3 weeks ago, and we would have moved onto the next kicker or 2.

          • CanadaBear

            Either the reporters are too lazy to investigate or they aren’t even holding tryouts for kickers. WTF?

          • willbest

            Well if sports reporting is anything like political reporting, they just write what they are given with no thought to where it comes from or what agenda the person telling them might have.

          • Scharfinator

            Or he’d make all his kicks in SUPER bazarro world

          • SC Dave

            That would be the younger Robbie Gould world.

  • willbest

    Kaep conceded injury guarantees, I wonder what the 9ers gave up.

  • Freddy G.P. Soft

    http://www.thesportsbank.net/chicagobears/jay-cutler-exit-signs-pointing-that-direction/

    This article makes several unsubstantiated claims:

    A. The big one: fans are dropping off the Bears bandwagon by the droves. I would love some empirical evidence of that. Every time I say that only a huge drop in Bears fandom would get Ginny to make George move, the stats do not seem to back that up. If viewership and season ticket interest has really dropped biggly (my favorite Trump word), then I’d like to see those stats.

    B. Jay is now at war with Birdcage. I’d like to see that happen on the sidelines.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AltbF1hzGs

    • willbest

      noon game viewership from what I read was down 3-4% league wide. Primetime viewership has been in the toilet. And for reasons that are unexplainable the Bears have been in primetime twice. So it is unsurprising that the Bears viewership would be down based on some odd YOY comparison. Though I doubt ticket interest is (yet). I recall having the option of paying 50% below face to go to the season closer last year and even that was two rich for my blood.

      Jay would need to practice first to be at war with Birdcage. But it wouldn’t surprise me if he went into his office at some point after the Lions game and said “hey, I like bootlegs too.”

      • I can picture it now.

        Cutler strolls in with his camo-cargo pants and unvaxed kids in bubbles.

        “Hey, I like bootlegs too!”
        “Yes, but you also like throwing and fumbling to the other team,” Birdcage
        “But I can throw 70yd bombs to my man Alshon, even if he only has one leg!”, Cargo
        “We’re good, Cutty. And try the cous-cous. It’s faaaabulous, like Hoyer.”

    • BerwynBomber

      A. mainly, presidential election and the Kaepernick protests. Here in Chicago, the Cubbies peel off a large # of viewers too.

      B. Cutty is at war with every OC he has ever had except Gase, and if his play started turning south under Gase, he would have been at war with him too.

      • willbest

        The NFL *hopes* its the presidential election. If its not teams are going to have to figure out how to make due with the same cap they got this year, and a few teams have already spent the money they are expecting next year.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Imagine what the numbers would be if you took Fantasy Football and/or Sports betting out of the NFL equation…?

    • AlbertInTucson

      “The Sports Bank dot Net”?

      Never heard of it.

    • Cormonster

      The NFL has lost me, and I think it’s permanent. Up until a few years ago, I watched 5 or 6 games a week. Last year I think I watched about 5 or 6 Bears games, and maybe a total of 15 games all year including the playoffs. This year I’ve only watched 2 games – Bears vs Eagles and Vikings vs Packers. Bits and pieces of a couple others.

      It’s a combination of things, but the main reason is officiating – I don’t know the rules anymore. I also think it’s a lot shittier product than what I grew up with. Another reason is NFL journalism, especially Chicago media. Whether it is print, radio, or television, I just can’t tolerate it anymore.

      I’m not emotionally invested in the Bears or the NFL anymore, and I don’t know if that will ever come back. I guess I’ve turned into the casual fan now. The Bears, or pro football in general, are not my first option anymore on Sundays afternoons in the fall. In the winter I’ll probably catch a few more games.

      I know it’s just anecdotal, but quite a few of my friends and family members have went the same route as me, and they are not all Bears fans. It’s mainly the ones who don’t play FF.

  • Sauron’s right eyeball

    Cool, Hillary and the Donald made up. They would make a great couple. Hee hee

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=f5mJE7zIPUY

    • willbest

      Yes but that was before Trump became “unshackled”

      On the stump today.

      “These Wikileaks emails confirm what those of us here today have known all along: Hillary Clinton is the vessel of a corrupt globalist establishment that’s raiding our country and surrendering the sovereignty of our nation,’ [Trump] said. ‘This criminal government cartel doesn’t recognize borders but believes in global governance, unlimited immigration and rule by corporations.'”

      • Sauron’s right eyeball

        So in other words, Hillary’s resume is going to be even more impressive while Trump takes all the credit.

        #thegodsmustbecrazy

        • MB30SD

          No such thing?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Gods?

          • willbest

            MB is a Jew. He only believes in 1 God, and denies he ever got down with an earth girl.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I don’t believe any version of God that’s been released to the public.

          • MB30SD

            There is only one will… weemen. Like it or not

          • Huge Bears Penis

            Yes only 1. Thor God of Thunder

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Wait…then who’s the devil?

          • MB30SD

            They are one in the same my man. It’s turtles all the way down

            https://youtu.be/BqDKWe7WrEQ

          • willbest

            Wait a second, weren’t you supposed to disappear for 25 to cleanse all your sins or something?

          • MB is from the Synagogue of Anti-Semites

            http://southpark.cc.com/clips/151424/synagogue-of-anti-semites

  • SC Dave

    Okay, I have a computer now. Regarding the comment from the Russian about the pussies in American politics, I cannot help but agree.

    It’s because we do not have a guy like this…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMhNSK7DHl4

    Gawd I love this dude.

    • willbest

      You know what I admire the most about Farage. He accomplished what he set out to do and then road the fuck into the sunset. It damn near brought a tear to my eye.

      • SC Dave

        And that something was nothing less than the liberation of the United Kingdom from bureaucratic slavery.

    • MB30SD

      Awesome

  • AlbertInTucson

    So, the CEO of Wells-Fargo is “retiring”.

    That SOB should be under indictment.

    Instead he gets to bail out.

    No doubt with his “Golden Parachute” intact.

    • willbest

      What did he do again? Like Clinton scandals I find it impossible to keep up with bankster scandals. From what I hear though there is a German bank trying to torch the global economy.

      • MB30SD

        How about this. We put em all on trial. From g dubayya up… erra last mutherfucking one of em. And all their bank buddies. Put em all away!

        • willbest

          You can lock the Bushes up. They threw down with the Clintons. They dead to me.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            C’mon Will…..do you really think there’s a diff?

          • willbest

            I at least like them to pretend there is. And occasionally somebody is different, not necessarily in a good way. Ron Paul. Nadar. Probably Ted Cruz since nobody likes him.

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            I think it’s called the default position.

          • MB30SD

            Exactly

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Do we have to give em a trial?

          • willbest

            Have we killed all the lawyers first?

          • Sauron’s right eyeball

            Lol

      • AlbertInTucson

        Wells-Fargo just paid a $185M fine because their folks were signing customers up for credit cards without their knowledge/consent.

        All under this guy’s watch.

        He claims ignorance but I say “BS”.

        The push to increase that kind of business comes from the top.

        Until they start putting the Bankers in jail for this crap they’ll continue to do it.

        $185M is chump change to an outfit like Wells-Fargo.

        If they’d sent a bunch of bankers and brokers to jail in 2008 for THOSE shenannigans we’d all be better off.

        • willbest

          As somebody who has studied corporate governance structures I think corporations are a bad idea. Somebody needs to be a general partner with unlimited liability. It will keep the entity honest.

          • AlbertInTucson

            In this town, builders and contractors file for bankruptcy then pop up later under a new name.

          • willbest

            How do you think Trump is worth 2-3 billion while flushing a few billion down the hole?

            On the one hand there is the assumption of risk for a contract dispute. But corporations are able to shelter their liability to the world in this manner. And its this aspect of it, that I part ways with my right leaning brethren. Because they are afforded all the privileges of natural persons (save for voting), and yet bear none of the responsibilities. Such as serving jail time.

            If say the largest shareholder was going to end up in jail. You could be damn sure that he would put an end to it the second he found out, and be well on his way to making amends before the government got involved.

        • Sauron’s right eyeball

          Wells Fargo was the only bank open on monday in my area.

    • Sauron’s right eyeball

      I saw that too. I wonder why he’s “really” stepping down?

  • Sauron’s right eyeball
    • willbest

      We beat Green Bay. The end. Cutler off the bench. 12/12 for 900 yards and 12 touchdowns.

      • beninnorcal

        I think you meant to say 1200 yards.

        • willbest

          Hard to start every possession on you half yard line.

    • BearDown100393

      12-4.

  • Well, I said if women weren’t coming out of the woodwork to accuse Trumpf of pussygrabin’, then it was likely just locker talk.

    Well, two women have so far come out saying Trumpf was copping cheap feels. Naturally, Trumpf threatens to sue.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/10/13/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?_r=0

    • willbest

      hoaxers until they produce cobbororating evidence. I put that right up there with Anonymous’s claim to have a video of bill raping a 13 year old, and Hillary’s 33,000 Deleted emails. Meanwhile, conclusive proof that the primary was rigged, and that her aides hate Catholics and evangelicals.

    • willbest

      The “like an octopus” line is actually fairly distinctive. It was used as lyrics in a Velvet Underground song, but also in a sex assault case against Bill Roache two years ago.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qkM7Tp3IvY&feature=youtu.be&t=4m39s

      Carlos Sims better hope its true, or the Mexican billionaire is going to lose his ability to influence US political and cultural thought. Then again, Friends of Bill always get their money’s worth.

      • “like an octopus” is a known expression.

        just like “he pawed me” or “felt me up”

        Trumpf might get pudding popped. Once one or two come out, well, ask Cosby.

        • willbest

          He will probably get screwed out of the presidency, because an accusation is a conviction on this (though he wasn’t looking like he was going to win that at the moment anyway). But as for it being true. I find that implausible. This isn’t a Cosby cascade. There is a genuine reason for a person to be motivated to attack Trump.

          And Hillary is not above hiring people to do it.

          • CanadaBear

            How is acting like a Neanderthal and getting called out on it, getting screwed? If he did it and got caught, it’s on him.

          • willbest

            There is zero chance he did it with Leeds. I won’t speak to others at this point, but the timing is automatically suspect. And its unlikely to rise above he said-she said so we won’t ever know.

            Meanwhile, we have documented proof that Hillary Clinton and her closest advisers hate large segments of the American people.

  • BerwynBomber

    Not a huge hockey fan but damn … this kid from Toronto must be something else.

    • AlbertInTucson

      He plays in Toronto but is from that Hockey hotbed, Scottsdale, Arizona!

  • MB30SD
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