• Huge Bear’s Penis

    absolutely brilliant insight. one of the best articles.

    • Trac

      Hahaha. Yup, it’s hard to come up with a coherent defense of drafting Cooper given what we know about our Bears. It must be a NY thing.

      • DaBearsBlog

        I think he will be the best player available on their board.

        • Big Mike

          If he’s there at 7, he surely would be the highest guy left on many boards. The fact that he compliments what we have at WR should make this a no brainer.

          • BillW

            I’m actually getting excited about this possibility. Which may mean it won’t happen. (Can’t help it – my Eeyore is showing again).

      • DaBearsBlog

        And I am not sure the new Bears regime is in love with Alshon Jeffery as their future at WR.

        • BillW

          You are the first I heard say that out loud, and I tend to agree. At least I find myself wondering which Alshon we’ll see now that BMarsh is gone? Remember, he was somewhat inconsistent his rookie year though he showed flashes. Then he went to Marshall’s “camp” and really came on. Now Marshall is gone.

          Some guys aren’t cut out for the spotlight and Alshon may be one of them. (I have no way of knowing obviously, but just wondering.)

        • MorganW

          I think the Bears love Jeffery as one of their wide outs. I’m not sure they are in love with him being the primary. With all of the other needs on the team, I wasn’t a huge fan of drafting a WR #7 overall, however, Jeffery needs a guy on the other side to be max effective and with a talent like White on the board, it’s a no-brainer.

          • DaBearsBlog

            Well stated, Morgan.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Know who didn’t need anybody to be max effective on the other side … because he was a stud ? Mr & Mrs Brandon Marshall.

          • Big Mike

            Add a speed threat, and it’s good balance.

        • Trac

          I’m just ribbing ya Jeff. I could embrace Cooper but I would go another direction.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Which would be an big ol’ red flag on the new Bears regime.

  • BearDown100393

    Concise and directly to the point.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    A punter…

  • BillW

    Cooper said he’s a no show in Chicago. A relatively large number of potential first rounders decided to not come to Chicago.

    As a life-long Chicagoan who LOVES this city (but suffers involuntarily from a second city syndrome), it makes me wonder if it’s a NYC vs Chicago thing.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      i am actually surprised how many players have agreed to show up to the draft especially the late first rounders and possibly 2nd rounders. If i am a kid in the situation i am not sure i would show up to the draft either. Just look at the options:

      1. show up to draft – suit and tie. fairly uncomfortable. only a couple friends/family members around. sitting at a table in uncomfortable chairs. also probably not much else to do at the draft. Woohoo! i am on ESPN.

      2. Stay at home, wear whatever the fuck you want. all the friends and family you want around. sit in my comfy ass recliner. If i get bored go outside/play video games, do anything in the world you want to do. Woohoo! ESPN sent a camera guy to my place to record my reaction to being drafted haha still on TV.

      Keeping my ass at home sounds so much better.

      • BillW

        Good point. I guess the NFL messed up somewhat by stretching it out. The worst thing for a guy would be to have him fall in the first round unexpectedly and then constantly being filmed in a room to get the reaction.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i don’t mind the NFL stretching out the draft, to fans it is more enjoyable spaced out. After what happened to Rodgers several years ago, the NFL and ESPN actually do a pretty good job of not constantly showing the guys that fell.

      • You only get drafted once.
        It’s like Brady not going to the White House. WTF?
        It’s not like you get invited to it everyday.

    • Trac

      Yup. Chi-town can’t compete with the big apples night lights. I’m not a fan of conventions hosted in Chicago and I love Chicago.

      • BillW

        “Chi-town can’t compete with the big apples night lights.”

        And usually that’s a good thing. I like the city quiet.

        (Coming from a guy who remembers the ’68 Democratic convention.)

    • Big Mike

      Don’t think that is it. I think it’s a trend.

      • Trac

        A little of both perhaps.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      These guys have ego’s and they don’t want to be continuously watched in the green room if they start to fall on draft day.

      • SC Dave

        This

      • Yeah, but Mariotta, WInston, Cooper…they aint falling out of the top 10.
        I could understand if you were Ray or Armstead or Peters…

  • Irish Sweetness

    …. Trae Waynes.

    Can’t see Fox open his account with a WR. His statement will be defensive in nature. If not Waynes, then Shelton perhaps.

    Hope it’s a trade-down though.

    • Big Mike

      Cooper and White represent significant value at 7. Just about every other choice is a “reach”.

      • MorganW

        NOT SHELTON…..please, oh, please not Shelton. The scouting reports, hell, even the “experts” are starting to say that Shelton is not a first round talent and sure as hell isn’t a #7 overall talent. I wouldn’t even trade back to get him. He’s a great kid and I like his personality but he won’t be able to handle NT in the NFL.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I love Shelton, however, the biggest knock on him is not giving consistent effort. When that’s a part of your DNA, how are you gonna act after you get PAID? He has the skills to be the #7 pick but it seems he lacks the mentality to be the #7 pick. If we can grab a great combo of skills/effort (Cooper) then we should do it.

          Do you want upside (White) or polish (Cooper)? Interesting debate.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      not a good sign that this early on a Monday morning i misread your for first line as Trade Winds, and thought i could use a drink.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That would be a huge, huge mistake. He’s most likely not even close to Fuller, which would be a bad draft pick in more ways than not… higher pick for a worst player in the same position in regard with the last pick of the previous regime.

      Also… pro Football Focus.

      His awareness at times is questionable, and there are times when he lost the ball in the air by focusing too much on the wide receiver in front of him. Those lapses leave him flapping after noticing the ball in the air, leading to contact which could lead to more flags in the NFL. His tackling can also be a bit suspect as he has a tendency to throw himself at tackles in space, a little bit like Asante Samuel, rather than wrapping up. That’s something that will cost him a few big plays when he misses, and something he must clean up in the NFL.

      Signature stat: Missed a tackle once every 8.3 attempts.
      https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/04/17/cff-overview-cb-buyer-beware/

      PS: He’s a god damn liability. You can’t draft that in the Top 10.
      PS2: They will NOT draft a CB at #7. I’ll bet my balls on that.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s top of pretty much everyone’s board at his position, Barb. I don’t know who I’d draft, I haven’t seen any of these guys other than highlight reels. I might take a roll on Gurley, or whoever the top back on your board is. If you’re going to run the ball, you’ll need guys that can do it. Plural.

        Cooper may be a very good player, but he can’t rush the QB.

        • Big Mike

          Wouldn’t reach for a CB. Take a big guy. DL/OL.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Pro Football Focus -who watches every play and grades it- talks about a penalty, missing tackles liability type of player.

          If you can’t tackle Fangio has no use for you.

  • Big Mike

    I have said it before and I’ll say it again. All of the names tossed around on the blog (with the exception Todd Gurley and I might be talked into that), look to be exceptional choices. What I do not want is a surprise. Where the ESPN guys, or NFL.com guys or the guys on this blog, go “Didn’t see that coming”.

    Plenty of talent that the Bears can use. One of the top 5 guys will be there, because at least 2 teams that reach.

    • BillW

      Right with you (and JWood and others. I want to see the QBs go, then we take at worst the fifth best (non-QB) player in the draft. There are no positions on our roster so crowded that we can afford to pass up a top player at that position.

      I wonder traditionally how long before we get to pick 7? That is, what time of night? The draft starts at 7pm Chicago time. I’m thinking the first pick isn’t announced until about 7:15 (or does the draft have a “pregame show?” At an average of 8 minutes per pick, that puts the Bears right around 8:00pm.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        teams got 10 minutes in the 1st round. Chances are most teams will use almost all that time, to make sure sure they don’t miss any options to trade down. so most likely the earliest will be after 8pm.

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      I have flashbacks to the draft party a couple of years ago, when there was a collective, “Who the fuck is Shea McClellin?” echoing out into a brisk night air.

      • Scott W.

        That echo still resonates across Bear fan land. Louder, even.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I thought we were drafting Urlacher’s heir. I’m actually pulling for Shea this year. The underdog at ILB.

        • Don’t forget white. Gotta have a white “motor” underdog for the superfans, preferably with a name that has a lot of consonants or a stache.

          We can call in the Waddle/Sanzenbacher/Costanzo Underdog token…

        • Big Mike

          I’m a big fan of his personally, I’m pulling for him as long as he in the uniform. He’s been in the wrong situation since the day he’s been drafted. But he never complains, keeps working and it seems like he gives 100%. Maybe he’s a stud ILB. Maybe he needs a coach and a scheme. Maybe he’s a bust.

      • Big Mike

        That is exactly what I don’t want to have happen. Kyle Long was a slight surprise based on his inexperience, but not a WTF like McClellin.

    • dwhnt47

      AGREED! No surprises!!! Don’t friggin over think it and get cute. Take an impact player or trade back. If I hear “Didn’t see that coming.” at pick #7, I will be seriously pissed.

      • Only two prime candidates that can win the Emery Award.

        1. Arik Armstead who many mock going late 1st, but some pundits think could be the best Dlinemen. (NFP ranks him #7 best overall player.)

        2. CB Kevin Johnson who many haven’t heard of outside the circle jerk.

        • Big Mike

          I will weep. Trying to outsmart everyone, is no way to get started.

  • Trac

    And the Bears first round selection is……

    Ereck Flowers-OT

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Drafting a WR at #7 would be a sign of insanity and/or incompetence.

    Alshon Jeffery has had the last 2 years and average of:

    87 catches, 1275 yards , 8.5 TD, 0.5 fumbles lost, excellent run blocking, 11 runs-70 yards.

    Lets stop the nosense about him not being the real deal, No. 1 type of WR.

    We have ILB that can’t play basic zone coverages and we’re fucking around with possibly the future best WR in Bears history.

    • BillW

      Barb – it depends on how the draft falls. I think we all agree there are better needs. But do you take an ILB in round 7 who may be a reach vs a WR who is not? Or do you trade down and say “no thank you” to a guy who could be a pro bowler for years just because we have one already?

      Myself, I don’t think taking the 5th best non-QB in the draft (whoever that may be) is insanity or incompetence. Taking Shea McClellin was incompetence.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Incompetence yes. Insanity no.

        PS: I’m okay with talking a WR if there’s nobody else half way decent. That’s not likely to happen, though.

        So..if they draft a WR it’s because they wanted to draft a WR. Maybe not the premium targeted position, but a top draft choice.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Needs: DBs, LBs/DEs, WR, OL

          As a new franchise GM/Boss, when you have traditionally gone with Defense (Fox), who is your statement pick going to be? A receiver? I’d be very surprised at that. Fox can have the best ILB, DB, OL, RB or possibly WR.

          I’m feeling/hoping the tradedown comes. Get twofer one.

          • Lots of talent is going to be there in the 3rd if we trade down and get an extra pick there.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This. We trade down we get a shot at the mcKinneys, Landon Collins. The supposed second-tier D-tackles (who may be top of POX’s boards), a running back. It’s just sexier to move down this year.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            so…you’re saying the actual GM has no decision power ?

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s a bit early to be handing out pro bowls and AP choices to any WR not yet in the NFL, Bill.

        I don’t get the whole “it’s too high to pick” scenarios. If you’re a franchise who thinks – for example – that Mckinney is the greatest LB since …Brian Urlacher …. then you can happily draft him at #7.

        • McKinney in the 2nd!
          Holla!

          • Irish Sweetness

            Oh yessir. I almost don’t care who they get in the first, but I want him in the second.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Stephone Anthony/Eric Kendricks should be there in Round 2. I don’t see an ILB that is worthy of being picked #7 overall.

      Drafting a WR at #7 is tough when you have already come out and said you want to run more than pass. But if you can get another game changer at the position it really alters how defenses can attack you. Has Alshon ever had to face a consistent double in the pros? Can he handle it? Plus, if Jay’s production last year was inflated because of garbage time stats as some have suggested (NOT saying you said that). Then doesn’t that also mean that Alshon, Forte and Bennett’s stats are inflated too, giving us a false sense of security as to what we have (Forte excluded because he has excelled no matter the situation).

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Just because you (as fans in general) or experts don’t see a ILB as worthy of the 7th pick doesn’t mean Fangio doesn’t. He might see a stud in the making, realize he’ll be gone by the 2nd round.

        So you take him, even if he sin’t worth the high pick label now, because you know it will by november.

        • Irish Sweetness

          So very this.

      • Irish Sweetness

        It’s bordering on silly talk to suggest we draft a receiver in the first. Do we need a WR? Yes. But when your team is talking about running first, and we’re coming off the worst defenses of the franchise’s history … you get your receiver down the line, and either draft a segment of your running attack (OL/RB) or beef up your defense with a game-changing stud.

        A guy like Conley that GP mentioned could just as easily outproduce White or Cooper. These guys don’t enter the NFL on guarantees because of where they were drafted.

        Needs must. We must fix the defense. POX may reach because of that.

    • it’s not about Alshon Jeffery. It’s about grabbing the best player available. If that’s a WR, grab a WR.
      Not to mention that outside of Alshon and Eddie Royal-who is a slot WR pretty much exclusively-there’s Marquess Wilson, a former 7th round pick with 18 career catches to his name, and then not a single player with an NFL reception.
      The Bears don’t need a stud WR in this draft, but they need one ready to contribute immediately.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        That’s the definition of a 3rd rounder.

        You don’t draft a Top 10 WR because you lack depth.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        ‘the best player available’ theme is a hoax.

        • no, it’s not really. The Bears have enough needs that they should simply draft the highest rated player on their board. How much team need influences their rating varies from team to team, but WR is one of the Bears’ biggest needs.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            So…Guard or RB. Do these positions qualify ?

          • If it’s a damn good player, I’m fine with that.

          • SC Dave

            I definitely agree with this. If the Bears picked a guy that started at LG for say, 2016-2023 with maybe a couple Pro-Bowls, it would ABSOLUTELY be worth a #7.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Then you draft Sherff, easy. Or Peat.

            But what do you say to Fangio?

          • SC Dave

            “If you’re all you think you are, make do with the guys we got you in FA”.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “F#$% you Foxy ! You promised me Armstead !!!”

            Etc.

          • “You’re a defensive genius, Fang. We trust you can unearth a rare gem like Bowman and such in the later rounds.” Pat on the back. Walk away.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But here it is, who says who the BPA is? Somebody has the last decision. I think Angelo drafted Dan LeFevour when James Starks was highest on their board. Different round now, obviously, but ‘BPA’ is very subjective when a human being, surrounded by other human beings are sitting in a room valuing players. With a shitty defense, a defensive player is sexier in any heads-up … or it should be with the shit-hole defense we have.

        Your last sentence is spot-on, and the reason we can pass on Cooper/White. How many good receivers came out of last year’s draft, a fair handful, right?

        Drafting WR first shoots us in the foot defensively, it just does.

        • I got the Fever for LeFevour!
          Gotta give it to Martz though. He denied Cutler audibles while most of us were bitching about it, but in retrospect, he was correct.
          Also, he was very correct in calling Hanie dog shit.
          Sometimes the clockwork orange strikes true.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Now we know – Chi-town is where OCs go to die (with Jay Cutler).

    • AlbertInTucson

      In a draft top heavy with receivers, likely to cause potential first round wideouts into the 2nd round, I do not see the sense spending the #7 on a WR when you have more glaring needs elsewhere.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Obviously.

        Word of advice…feed Fangio. Stay away from a high WR pick, you Defense-run heavy team.

        FYI: Jeffery, Royal, Bennett, Forte caught 4.000 yards last year. If you can’t work with that, you’ll waste the high pick WR regardless.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Exactly.

          Brees threw for as many yards as Big Ben last year – where did it get him?
          Smashmouth defense.

      • Big Mike

        There is a drop from Cooper/White to the 3rd guy. Also the next set of best WRs are in the Alshon/Brandon mode. These are the top 2 speed guys buy quite a bit. It’s also not clear based on so many mocks, which of these two guys is better. Edge to Cooper, but not by a lot. So Bears would be getting one of the top 2 guys at a position of need. Can’t say that about edge rushers.

        Trae Waynes, Brandon Sherff, Danny Shelton, make sense.

        Ideally, the Bears could trade back stay in the top 15 and snag an extra pick. One of the”makes sense” guys would be there, or Landon Collins, Malcolm Brown (NT – Texas),

        Or trade even further back and pick up an ILB like Eric Kendrics from UCLA

        • AlbertInTucson

          Collinsworth, I know not universally beloved here, was on Dan Patrick this morning and was not high at all on Waynes or Collins. He DID have high praise for Shelton.

          • Big Mike

            I’ve seen a couple mock drafts that have Collins available when the Bears draft in the 2nd round. That would be good value. From Drafttek.com

            “After Day One of the draft is complete, Mel Kiper will be on TV (or whatever gadget you may use to consume media) all day Friday with his “best values”. Invariably, some round one talents will slip into day 2 as the contenders picking late on day 1 focus on filling that one need that will carry them to the promised land. Strong Safety isn’t the biggest need, but if Landon Collins should fall to #39, the Bears need to pull the trigger and add a second difference-maker in
            successive rounds”

            Here’s the write up on Waynes at walter football

            Waynes took over as the boundary corner
            for the Spartans in 2014. That role was basically playing on an island
            on the outside in man-to-man coverage. Waynes was exceptional for
            Michigan State all season. On a weekly basis, he did a good job of
            covering No. 1 receivers and limiting them. Waynes had a strong game
            against Oregon in the Week 2. Versus Michigan, he played well against
            Wolverines receiver Devin Funchess, although an idiotic official flagged
            Waynes falsely on one contested pass. He snagged two interceptions
            against Nebraska with good coverage.

            At the Combine, Waynes surprised many with a fast 40 time of 4.31
            seconds. He also looked good turning and running with fluid hips in the
            field drills.

            Waynes looks like a No. 1 cornerback who is capable of going
            head-to-head with primary NFL receivers. He is a tall, long corner who
            can cover big receivers. His height and length let him prevent wideouts
            from making catches over him. Waynes also is fast enough and athletic
            enough to run with them in and out of their breaks to prevent
            separation. He even has the speed to run with speed receivers, so he is
            capable of covering any kind of No. 1 wideout.

            Waynes is used to lining up on the outside, so if his team wants to use
            him in the slot, he could need some time to get used to that. It also
            wouldn’t hurt Waynes to add some weight for the NFL to fight with strong
            receivers.

            In the ground game, Waynes is a quality tackler and a willing
            contributor. He is physical with receivers and running backs with a
            gritty mentality.

            Waynes should be selected quickly in the first round of the 2015 NFL
            Draft and could be a quality 10-year starter with some Pro Bowl seasons
            during his career.

            Read more at http://walterfootball.com/scoutingreport2015twaynes.php#3izGmHGm21zmPx42.99

        • SC Dave

          For whatever reason, I want Kendrics.

          • at #7, SC?
            That would be an Emery all-in move by the the new regime, that’s for sure.

          • Big Mike

            Who the heck is that?

          • Irish Sweetness

            I don’t get all the Kendricks love, he’s about 20lbs and a couple of inches too small for a 3-4 ILB, no? McKinney OTOH is 6’4 and will play at about 250lbs.

          • I prefer McKinney too, though Kendricks looks more “quick twitch” and explosive, McKinney just looks more the part on the next level (his production isn’t shabby either).

          • Irish Sweetness

            Kendricks is about Samurai’s build. 6’0, 230. Old skool 4-3 LB. Give me the Urlacher-sized dude.

    • Big Mike

      Except that you typically only use 1 RB, whereas you need 3 strong WRs to compete.

      • NewBearInTown

        In fairness, you need 3 strong receiving targets. 2 WRs and a TE will do. The Pats also did it fairly effectively with 1 WR and 2 TEs.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Yeah, their TE’s killed it…at least one of them did anyway… I’ll show myself out…

        • Big Mike

          No disagreement. Do we have 2 quality WRs? Eddie Royal is a very nice slot guy. It’s funny, I’m a defense first fan. But drafting a top notch WR in the first round is very enticing. We’ll see. Maybe some surprises in the top 6 picks. Beasley or Fowler drop down. My point is these are all quality guys.

          NO SURPRISES!!!! at 7. That’s my theme.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    Just something i picked up on over the last couple weeks.

    Random Blog Poster: “we should draft so and so”
    Barb: “Huge Mistake!”
    RBP: “What about this guy?”
    Barb: “That’s Insane”
    RBP: “How bout whats his name?”
    Barb: “MORONIC!!”
    RBP: “Well then we should take that one guy.”
    Barb: “IDIOTIC”
    RBP: “Then i think we should…”
    Barb: “You should not think, cuz thats a stupid pick”
    RBP: “Who should we take then, Barb?”
    Barb: “GMs are incompetent idiots, its all about PR with them. I don’t watch College Football so i definitely know what i am talking about on these guys based on this one website i read.”

    So after observing this over the last couple weeks i need to ask the following.

    Barb, who should the Bears pick at #7?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Pass rusher or Defense Quarterback.

      Sorry I’m not buying lame names and options.

      Remember…last year I called out the Fuller pick even if I had no idea who he was.

      While everybody (fans and experts) were masturbating at the idea of the 3T Donald, I called it a stupid move and much worst than insanity. Why ? How could I have known while not knowing any player ? The answer is simple: he’s not the type of player Vic Fangio uses. Case closed.

      So…I guess we’ll see. I’ll call an autoban on myself on this blog if the Bears draft a G, a NT or a CB. Fuck it…throw a Wr in there for good measure.

      • Scott W.

        I think a WR is a real possibility Barb. You should put a disclaimer in the fine print.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Sorry, but I’m not sure what “put a disclaimer in the fine print” means.

          If it means what i think it means…there’s no need for anything extra. I wrote it, I’ll follow through.

          • Scott W.

            Okay….sooooo, what’s the contract’s duration? That’s pretty important, Barb. You can’t just write it up as open ended – they never do that in the NFL you know. There has to be a time when you can be traded to another board, or released…

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, sure.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I was masturbating at the idea, but I didn’t get to finish and then the Rams took him before we did and then all he did was go on to win rookie of the year. I love the Fuller pick in retrospect but to suggest the Bears would have been wrong to take AD is insanity. Especially given the fact that Fangio wasn’t here last year. It was Mel Tucker and his, his, his….whatever the hell defense he ran. Seriously, he must have read Complete idiots guide to coaching a 4-3 defense. Other teams didn’t even need to watch film. They just needed to go down to the library to get our gameplan.

        • Scott W.

          “Complete Idiots Guide to Coaching a 4-3″…………..priceless!

        • Johnnywad

          Barb called the Fangio hiring prior to the 2014 draft. IDIOT!!!

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Wow, that’s where we’re going with it? Insults, really Johnny? I hope you didn’t misread my comment as I suggested Mel Tucker was the idiot, not Barb. But man, let that be a lesson to some of the other DBB’ers, Barb has a cult following on this blog. You mess with him and the Barbites, no…Barbies, will come at you in full force.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            If Barb has a cult following, whoa.

          • So does ISIS.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s the Eric Cartman thing. We’re the Barbarellas !!

          • Johnnywad

            LOL. And I don’t even LOL.

          • i think you missed a little something in interpreting johnny’s message.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That’s possible, I’m at work and trying to do 6 things at once.

          • Johnnywad

            You’ve sorted out that I wasn’t insulting you by now I hope.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            NewsFlash: There are other kind of Defensive schemes not only Lovie’s D.

            It must be a shock for you. I hope you can dream tonight.

          • Johnnywad

            Watching you try to wiggle around your own mistake is comical. Really, its what makes it interesting.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            What mistake ? I’m doing what now ?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          The definition of insanity is spending key resources for 4-3 scheme, while then hiring a 3-4 DC.

          We would have had a fish out of the water right now. Or they would have looked only for 4-3 DCs.

      • Scott W.

        “Good evening everybody, and welcome to the 2015 Lame Name Draft, with your host, Barb from Romania! [cue applause light]….Tonight, our contestants are Phil Emery, former GM of the Chicago Bears! Matt Millen, former GM of the Detroit Lions! And last and probably least, former Washington Redskins VP of Football Operations Vinny Cerrato!

        Tonight’s contestants are competing for a chance to become the GM of a random Fantasy Football League! And noooooooooooowwwwwwwwww, here’s your host, BAAAAAAAAAAAAARBBBBBBBBB!!!!!

      • BillW

        Barb – last year no one had any idea that Fangio would be the DC of the Bears. Are you really saying your draft analysis was based on the projected hiring of Fangio a year later?

        We all make guesses / wishes / etc based on very limited knowledge. Your idea though of “get a pass rusher” without naming names is naive at best. GMs don’t get to say “with the 7th pick the Chicago Bears draft a pass rusher.” They have to pick from the actual PEOPLE who are there. And if the player they deem the best pass rusher is already there, it’s beyond foolish to just go pick another one.

        I’d be careful criticizing anyone’s suggestions. The GM you called a beast picked Shea, don’t forget.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Emery drafted few defenders who were scheme dependent. He wanted versatile, fast, physical players who could play multiple positions and schemes.

          Until a GM finds a proper DC for his team, he can’t draft one dimensional players. The 3T is the most one dimensional player in the NFL.

          So..thank your god he didn’t draft the wet dream of many fans and experts who miss the big picture because they can’t put their brain to work. We would have had a useless high pick on our hands right now or we wouldn’t have had Fangio.

          PS: Don’t hate me because I was envisioning a Fangio as the Bears DC last year instead of wasting time with draft talk and useless things like that.

          • BillW

            “PS: Don’t hate me because I was envisioning a Fangio as the Bears DC last year instead of wasting time with draft talk and useless things like that.”

            Don’t worry – I’m sure you’re hated for other reasons.
            (That was a joke. Of the Groucho Marx variety. “I didn’t come here to be insulted. No? Where do you usually go?”)

          • Irish Sweetness

            ” We would have had a useless high pick on our hands right now or we wouldn’t have had Fangio.”

            This is a fair point. I’d be looking at Steph Tuitt as my DE right now.

      • It’s easy to describe a “type” of player a GM should draft.

        I want a big, fast, mean badass defender.

        If we don’t get one, I’m right! If we do, told you so!

        It’s harder going on record for a certain player. The common fan just looks silly if wrong, but GMs will set their franchise back, cost them millions, and get fired for it.

        For instance, if Fowler or Beasley fall to #7, who would you prefer?
        If McKinney or Kendricks are there in the 2nd, who would you get?
        Which S, would you draft if we trade back, Collins or Randall?
        DT, Shelton, Brown or Phillips?
        CB Waynes, Johnson or Peters?
        HB Gurley, Gordon?

        I could just say “The one who best fits the template” but that’s not saying much.
        GMs don’t draft blue-prints, they draft players.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I don’t care about making names. Nobody gives me back the time I’d spend researching these amateur players. Wasted time.

          I have other interests you know.

          PS: I’ll read PFT as they now grade college players. I trust their work, especially in the tranches.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            thats basically my point. Anytime a DBBer has made mention of a player they would not mind being drafted we are almost guaranteed to hear from you how big of a mistake or how stupid/idiotic/moronic it would be. So you must be aware of a lot of these players else how could you pass judgement. So why can’t you put a name on who you want drafted.

          • SC Dave

            Because when he’s wrong, we’d be able to say it. Instead, he hides behind vague statements and insults. But perhaps, pity would be a better response to him than anger.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i am not angry, i actually think in a sad way that its funny.

          • Yeah, I mean, that’s part of the fun of the draft. GUESSING. Putting your support behind a SPECIFIC player, not some general template.

            For instance, Data is all in on Beasley. I preferred Shane Ray at the beginning, but then his combine #s came out, and with that +being undersized, reminded me of Michael Sam. I liked Fowler from then on, but he’s since skyrocketed up, so I doubt we get a chance to see him on the beloved.

            But that’s part of the intrigue and entertainment. Getting behind a prospect and seeing if you’re right/wrong (fun for the fan cause our jobs don’t depend on it).

            More fun than shitting on everything, at least.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think Beasley will certainly be there. But how many OLBs do we have now (including the 4-3 DEs) ?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s plain wrong.

            I’ve never insulted nobody’s prediction and name.

            I always said it’s stupid/idiotic/moronic in regards to a position or from a strategic point of view and speaking about the Bears.

            “If the Bears draft X in the position Y they must be stupid/idiotic/moronic. “

      • Irish Sweetness

        You like TJ and Fuller as our starting CBs? I don’t know about Louis-Jean or Hurst, but I don’t think anyone has them in the hall … If Waynes isn’t the guy then there’s a big corner right behind him who is.

        I’d rather we disrupted the passing game at the LOS though.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          There’s also Allan Ball (who got 3M/year) and the 2 young talented athletic fast CBs they re-signed.

          All these 3 players are Fangio type of players. Plus Fuller who’s ideal.

          Don’t listen to those who don’t have knowledge…they like their CB corp. And if Fangio likes it, I like it.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        man part of me is really hoping for a G, NT,CB or WR. LOL

  • Scott W.

    FROM LA-LA LAND: In a last minute trade with the Tennessee Titans, the Chicago Bears have traded Jay Cutler with 40% of his 2015 salary, and Matt Forte to Tennessee for their 2nd pick and their 4th round pick. And with the 2nd pick in the 2015 draft, the Chicago Bears select Marcus Mariota, QB from Oregon.

    REALITY CHECK: With the 7th pick in the 2015 draft, the Chicago Bears select Kevin White, WR from West Virginia.

    • Big Mike

      Your version of LA-LA land is insane. Hopefully you meant it to be.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Hence “LA-LA land”

        • Big Mike

          check.

      • Scott W.

        YUP. It was an off-the-wall, comic-book-level statement.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Would ya bet your testicles AMriota will be a Bear in five years if you draft him… or Leonard Williams ?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i would bet my right testicle on either.

      • Scott W.

        I dunno man…can we bet with something else? Like I dunno, my limbs?

        But I think the bet relies on development for Mariota, and if he got it and I had to pick one, I’d go with him, yeah.

  • Scott W.

    Adam Schein over on NFLN, along with Steve Burlein and pals, just did a segment on Mariota and Winston. The takeaway summaries:

    They don’t trust Winston at all because of his off-field issues, and Schein especially was strident about it. To me, that means Lovie will take him because he can’t resist a reclamation project. But he really hammered Winston. Interestingly – first I’ve EVER heard this – they compared Winston to JAY CUTLER, and Mariota to Tannehill (heard that one before). They said they think Winston will have more problems than people are saying overall with finding receivers in the middle of the field, and that he has a drifting front leg when he throws, which they see as problematic. None were a fan of him starting next season, from what I could ascertain.

    Schein also thinks Mariota will fall in the first round from 2nd to later, that he’ll be passed over by the Titans because of the school/style of play he is from. I’m guessing Jets or Buffalo wind up with him if that’s true.

    They also sang the praises of the unnoticed: Grayson, Petty, Hundley, etc.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Collinsworth added on DP Show that Winston’s release is relatively slow. He questioned Mariota’s arm strength AND accuracy.

      • Scott W.

        My understanding is that accuracy can be fixed, but arm strength can’t be improved by a whole lot. Sound right?

        • AlbertInTucson

          Agree. And arm strength isn’t necessarily a killing factor either, espescially in the era of the Bubble Screen.

        • Many in fact DO NOT believe accuracy can be fixed.

          If a QB can’t complete at least 63% in college where everyone is slower, stupider, and less technically sound, how the heck is that QB % going to get HIGHER in the NFL?

          And as I stated before, it’s not just about completion % but about NFL type throws that are completed.

          As we witnessed first hand, it’s easy to complete dump-offs, hitches, screens, slants and other read-option/pistol routes (a la Mariota), but how about the post, corner-post, go-route, 15yd out where you have to drop it over the CB and before the S, the TE streaking up the seam, the comeback, the backshoulder throw, the redzone fade/slant, play-action boot?

          (Recognizing defenses and progressions also highly affects accuracy)

          A lot of teams invest in trying to “fix” the mechanics of a QB in order to improve accuracy, but to me it always seemed like a futile endeavor for the most part.

          Kurt Warner was trying to help Kap this off-season with that, don’t think it will translate.
          How many years has Cutler been doing that back-peddling bullshit? Fat Lesbo will frequently throw off balance or side arm.
          Favre hating planting his foot saying that’s what gets QBs inj.
          Rothlisburger frequently throws from all kinds of platforms.

          Some QBs just flinch in the face of pressure (Gabbert) or never consistently put touch on throws (Kap).

          In other words, I don’t think cleaning up mechanics improves a QBs accuracy that much because often in the heat of the battle they revert back to their instincts and habits of 10+years.

          • Scott W.

            Sigh…..OKAY! I get it already! Mariota is unfixable junk, with no hope of making anything but a CFL practice squad!

            He SUCKS, alright? Are you happy now?

            Anyone want to buy my Mariota Bears Jersey?

          • I didn’t say Mariota sucks. His completion % is actually pretty good. 68%, 63% and 68% last 3 years. He also displays good decision making only 8 INTs in the last two seasons.

            But what a scout has to do is sift through the film and see his % on NFL throws and determine if a team can work with it.

            They also have to bank on Mariota’s mind and desire. Mind and desire are not exactly quantifiable.

            And if Mariota is put in a chip kelly type O, well, then those “traditional” throws aren’t all that necessary anyways.

            So, a lot of moving parts.

          • Scott W.

            I hear you man. I was just going for a cheap laugh was all.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Good post.

            When the time comes to invest in our QB, make it a guy who doesn’t need anything “fixed”, but who can do it all and just needs time to adjust to the NFL.

            I haven’t given up on Fales yet.

        • Irish Sweetness

          So why didn’t Jay’s accuracy get fixed?
          I don’t think you fix accuracy, not by much. That’s hand-eye stuff, instantaneous hard-wired ballistics and spatial mechanics. See/do stuff. You can do it or you can’t. Look at Jay. He can under/over-throw a receiver by a full five yards.

          • Scott W.

            Is it accuracy, or bad judgement? I think there’s a difference, but hell, you may be spot-on. I’m just guessing based on watching games.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Both.

  • This draft will really test the new regime because at #7 we can theoretically draft the best 2nd best WR, or best CB, OT or S.

    Problem? Seems like every inside source, expert and pundit has a different favorite.

    Cooper is the “safest” WR, but after him, major disagreement.
    Some think White is the 2nd best, others Parker and a few even Perrimen .

    Best CB? Tray Waynes, right? Not so fast. Kevin Johnson has come out of nowhere and is suddenly the “darling” top CB. And some still prefer Marcus Peters from a purely football aspect.

    How about OT? Well, that seems like a clusterfuck.

    Some like Peat, others La’el (is that Kryptonian?) Collins, while others Humphries or Flowers. And let’s not forget Scherff who many assume will transition to OG in the NFL, but some still argue he can be an OT.

    Best S seems like Collins, but SS with little coverage skills don’t go top 10, and some Damarious Randall. Heck, a FS with cover skills.

    Same with 2nd best DT. The consensus says “Shelton” but some think Malcom Brown and Jordan Phillips are superior NTs.

    All these prospects will most likely be available at #7, and history says some will be busts, so POX better be on their A game, or 3 years from now we’ll be “Those assholes could’ve drafted ______________!”

    • Trac

      I’ll say it again….Ereck Flowers, OT.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I think they HAVE to draft for defense and I’d rather see Shelton than Waynes.

      • Scott W.

        Draft day, it may come down to a Gase/Fangio arm wrestling match.

    • Scott W.

      I have no fucking idea who anyone except Tampa is going to draft. After that, I may as well throw darts at clouds in the sky that look like members of the draft class….

      • All those players I named above/below SHOULD be available for us @#7 or if we trade down in the teens.

        POX will not have a shortage of options, so much like Indiana Jones, they must choose wisely.

        • Scott W.

          Can you narrow it down to one name for me, so I can predict it?

          Thanks in advance…

          • haha, what, 20 players isn’t narrow enough?
            Gotta give it to the bears, they’re like the old school mob here. Johnny tight lips. Mums the word. They didn’t hear nothing from nobody never.
            Everyone’s taking wild guesses from Williams, to Gurley, to Mariota….

    • Irish Sweetness

      This is supposedly why they’ll get millions of dollars a year … to go “Okay, let’s go Corner, who’s our guy?” .. .and then to get it right.

  • Chip might put all his…wait for it…chips on the table…

    NJ.com’s Mark Eckel passes along a “rumor making its rounds in NFL personnel meetings” of the Eagles trading Sam Bradford to the Browns for the No. 19 overall pick in the draft.
    The Browns already offered No. 19 to the Rams for Bradford, prior to his trade to Philadelphia. St. Louis didn’t accept because it wanted a quarterback, and wound up acquiring Nick Foles. The Browns are “still said to have interest” in Bradford. Per Eckel, the rumor has the Eagles then sending Nos. 19 and 20 — plus Mychal Kendricks and Fletcher Cox — to the Titans in exchange for No. 2 overall, where Philly would select Marcus Mariota. Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole reported Friday that Bradford currently believes the Eagles may be planning to trade him. – Roto

    • Scott W.

      ….he’ll be here all week folks!

    • Doc Hamstring

      Wait, so the Eagles send 2 first-round picks, plus 2 defensive starters, plus Sam Bradford, to Cleveland for the #2 pick? That’s insane. There’s no way that’s even close to a good deal, unless Mariota is Jesus with a football.

      • Scott W.

        “and for my first miracle, I’m turning this interception into a 75-yards in the air TD pass…”

      • Not to CLE.

        Eagles would send Bradford to CLE for their #19 pick.

        Then, the Eagles will use their #20+#19+Kendricks+Cox = #2(Mariotta).

    • Scott W.

      Sooooo…. Chip Kelley might actually be interested in Mariota? Wow, that’s outta left field….in someone’s head that’s not mine or anyone else that has followed the news….

    • BerwynBomber

      But Bradford just threw a wrench in the spokes. Said he would not sign an extension with any team except the Iggles. Speculation is that he took that public stance simply because he didn’t want to be a trading piece in the Mariota sweepstakes.

      Kinda nervy and annoying, IMV. Bradford is the last #1 QB to cash in on the old lucrative rookie contracts, he has largely been hurt his entire time in the league, and now he is above being a trading chip for a rookie. Whatever.

    • SC Dave

      Where do these people like Eckel come up with this hare-brained drivel?

  • Scott W.

    This draft for the Bears has me “Pacing” the floor. First time friggin ever. I’m actually practically climbing the walls waiting for Thursday night. Crimminy. It’s like being 8 and wondering if I’ll get socks or the toy cannon I asked for for Christmas.

    • GPLDAN

      Pacing the floor.

      Excellent.

    • SC Dave

      Gee… drink a beer or get laid or something.

      • Scott W.

        At my age, the “or something” is probably my best option…

        • SC Dave

          Chamomile?

          • Scott W.

            Yeah….straight up…

  • BillW

    Just a thought – not that I want to stir anything up.

    First, as a disclaimer, I never believe in “tanking” for a draft pick. I think that is really dangerous to the psyche of players if they feel the team is not doing what they can to win a football game – especially given the health risks involved in playing.

    But fans often seem to think teams should do that. I only go so far as to say “I almost hope they lose…”. Of course in a close game I lose that feeling in a hurry and want victory. Especially if I’m at the game.

    And yet – here we are at the draft after one of the worst seasons in memory (actually worse than 1-13 in my mind, given the large blowouts.) And as we sit with (as I keep saying) the number 5 non-QB pick in the draft, it doesn’t seem high enough. It seems likely the best player at that position will be a WR – and the consensus is while it’s tough to pass up a high quality player, we’d all wish for one of 2 or 3 players likely to be drafted ahead of us.

    We need a pass rusher – or an ILB. And we’ll get a WR. Because for as bad as we were last year, we weren’t’ quite bad enough?

    • GPLDAN

      The Colts Sucked for Luck. Almost no serious NFL observer doesn’t think they tanked the 2011 campaign, esp. at the end, to get that spot. Jim Irsay is a piece of shit.

      Do you think that helped or hurt them in the long run? It’s considered by many to be an example of cheating and defiling the game that actually paid off. Who says crime doesn’t pay? You’re just not doing it right.

      I think the stench of that will be on the Colts the rest of the decade. Any Super Bowl appearance will have stories about how Luck was obtained. It may have cost them national fans, it may not have – hard to know.

      There’s your litmus test. Could you stomach being a Colts fans after that? Fucking Hoosiers did, but they are fucking Hoosiers. I mean, like, real people. Could you?

      • Bears sucked the good ole fashion way, through horrible coaching, drafting and spirit breaking fuck-ups.

        • GPLDAN

          Exactly.

          They EARNED their suckage by being incompetent BY NATURE.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Not all Hoosiers are Colts fans and we are real people….broad statement you are putting out there. And no, the suck for Luck campaign is already mostly forgotten or peoeple really don’t care anymore. You are overly worried about the Colts “stench” but not the Patriots way of doing business in the past decade?

        • SC Dave

          This

    • Big Mike

      Take the WR.

    • NewBearInTown

      You’re thinking that now because its draft season. Go back for the last ten years – there’s a game changer available at #7 every year. You’ve just got to find him.
      The only exception is quarterback. The truly elite QBs are always taken in the first couple of picks, but (a) we’re not looking for that right now, and (b) it seems like a lot of those guys end up being career backups anyway.

      • NewBearInTown

        To illustrate my point:
        2006 – Donte Whitner (#8); Haloti Ngata (#12)
        2007 – Adrian Peterson (#7); Patrick Willis (#11); Darrelle Revis (#14)
        2008 – Jerod Mayo (#10); Ryan Clady (#12)
        2009 – B.J. Raji (#9); Brian Orakpo (#13); Brian Cushing (#15)
        2010 – Joe Haden (#7); Earl Thomas (#15)
        2011 – Aldon Smith (#7); J.J. Watt (#11)
        2012 – Luke Kuechly (#9); Dontari Poe (#11)
        2013 – Tavon Austin (#8); Sheldon Richardson (#15)
        2014 – Odell Beckham (#12); Aaron Donald (#13)
        Picking in the top 13 usually gets you a strong chance of success. Picking at #7 has yielded at least two game changing options every year for 10 years.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Funny about Whitner though because at the time he was considered a massive reach.

          • NewBearInTown

            Of all the guys on the list, he was one I wondered if it was fair to call “game changing.” He was a bit more one dimensional than some other safeties, but still definitely worth the pick.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No HOFer has ever been drafted at #7. One of a number of reasons to trade back. Mathematics.

    • Irish Sweetness

      i don’t think we’ll get a WR, Bill. It’s just a thread topic. Fox is a defense guy and he picks defense with his first pick in new situations. It may be a ‘surprise’ pick though, like he goes NT, but not Shelton, or goes CB, but not Waynes, or he thinks Gordon or Gurley is a Tony Dorsett or whatever.

  • I think my “LA-LA” draft would go.

    1. Edge Fowler/Beasly
    2. ILB McKinney/Kendricks
    3. Safety Jaquiski Tarrt
    4. HB Yeldon
    5. Best mauling OL

    Rest, BPA/Specials

    • NewBearInTown

      We traded away our 5th. We got the Jets 5th for Marshall, but had to send our 7th.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Love to see us get McKinney and Yeldon, grab a C with that 5th.

  • Trac

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog

    “Theory on Bears draft: they will want to drop back and that could bring the offensive tackles into play. If they stay at 7, I think it’s WR.”

    I’m in agreement with Jeff on the OT part only. I actually think this will happen.

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s insane to draft a WR just because “we’re in position” to do so. Our pass rusher and ILB picks are then lower tier guys progressively. Pick the quality on defense and then find your value at receiver.

      • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

        completely agree. The drop-off from Copper/White to the next tier is not as drastic as some make it.

  • GPLDAN

    I need a ruling here:

    Sarah Spain, Chicago sportswriter and AM1000 analyst.

    In MB’s wheelhouse or not quite there?

    http://tinyurl.com/ll9hvml

    • I think I can speak for MB. He’d probably call her a “7”
      (-1 point for being a brunette, -1 point for having REAL boobs, – 1 point because of her face).
      Maybe he’d even call her a “6” cuz MB is an asshole.

      Loves you, maing!

      • GPLDAN

        Thanks! I figured he’d dock her for RBF.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Don’t tell me they’re real !!

        Before anyone saws off their right hand to lay claim to her treasures with the help of a genie …. Wake her up at 4.30 in the morning, check out the sun-damage on the skin with a blacklight … photograph her without her makeup on and tweet.

        Take a good deep intake of air from that garlic-mouth she tied on last night.

        Sell your soul to the devil for it?

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      She’s a 9 for me, she loses a point because you know she’s one of those “hot and I know it” types. You know she’s a bitch because she can get away with it.

    • BearDown100393

      She won’t age well.

    • Big Mike

      slightly flat chested for MB’s taste

  • Am I missing something? How can Leonard Williams be #1 overall player on many boards, but still fall out of the Top 5? Not complaining, but odd.

    The Tennessean does not expect the Titans to select USC DT Leonard Williams at No. 2 overall.
    Beat reporter Jim Wyatt says the Titans would pass on a player many consider the draft’s top prospect because they have “bigger needs.” That’s certainly true, although drafting for need is what GMs who are trying to save their job do. Wyatt added that if the Titans don’t trade out of the No. 2 hole and don’t take Marcus Mariota, he thinks they’ll take Alabama WR Amari Cooper. – Roto

    Redskins GM Scot McCloughan suggested he won’t take USC DT Leonard Williams at No. 5 overall.
    If Williams slips to five, McCloughan said a trade back will be in play. “We do feel good about our defensive front,” he said. The Redskins already have Terrance Knighton, Stephen Paea, Jason Hatcher and Ricky Jean-Francois in their interior. They’d prefer to get an edge rusher to complement Ryan Kerrigan. – Roto

    #1 and #2 go Winston/Mariota, #3 Cooper/White (raiders), #4 Fowler (jags), #5? (Skins)
    And the Jets are pretty set at Dline, so they may just go Beasley.

    Who knows, Williams might fall to us, as crazy as that may sound.

    • GPLDAN

      Steelers GM is angry about all the lies and disinfo that this time of year brings

      http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/12774495/pittsburgh-steelers-general-manager-kevin-colbert-denounces-nfl-draft-leaks-teams

      • Whadda you know? McShay basically describes the same phenom of Williams dropping to us, but adds his own Joker into the mix.

        http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12739744

        • GPLDAN

          Everybody is lying about everything. They all feign distaste about disinformation then turn right around and do it themselves.

          The picks are the picks. At least minus the Emery dork, we have a fighting chance to pick a real pro football player this time.

          • Yeah, it’s BS storms flying overhead, but I don’t know why some “inside” reporters would get fed disinfo about Williams from the top teams.
            It’s not as if any of the top teams think he’ll be around in the 2nd.
            I could understand if say a reporter gets the scoop that the Jets don’t think much about Williams (all the while the Jets hoping he indeed falls), but don’t know why teams who could take him in the Top 5 would more or less hint they’re leaning elsewhere.

            The skins are basically leaking they’re open for biz taking all offers for Williams.

            McShay even mocking Gurley to the Jets, and who knows? It could happen. That could be the first “wow” pick of the draft.

          • Big Mike

            Skins want to trade back. That’s just a way of announcing it.

      • Scott W.

        “You’d just lose your mind trying to figure out what everyone else is going to do.”

        Yes, I have. I want to be a smart person when I grow up.

    • Teams are rarely drafting in the top 5 because of smart management. So they overthink it, draft based on needs, etc.
      Not saying it will happen that way, but it does sometimes.

      • Trac

        Like Big Mike(I think) said, no unknown dark horse surprises please.

    • Big Mike

      Don’t need a guy on the DL.

      • Let’s say McDonald doesn’t get suspended (And I don’t think he will). He’s still shown a pattern of being dumb or simply being in dumb luck. Also, he’s only on a 1 yr deal and will be 30 soon.

        So, what DLinemen do we have to build on? The Emery/Tucker darlings of Ego/Sutton (Sutton who is a classic 3-tech)? Rat is also on the back 9.

        Some one year fliers from FA?

        I would argue that Dline might be our biggest question mark, and to get Williams, perhaps the top player OVERALL (never mind position) to fill perhaps our biggest need is GOLD.

        At worst Williams can demand a double team, at best he becomes some sort of hybrid of Suh/Watt (Richard Seymour?)

  • Big Mike

    Blog survey.. Living in DC I’m in the middle of this conversation from the Redskins fans POV.

    Straight up who would you rather have.

    RGIII or Jay Cutler

    • Trac

      I’d rather kiss a frog.

      • Big Mike

        Tough choice, right.

    • BearDown100393

      For smoking, definitely Jay. For wild turkey shots, RGIII.

    • NewBearInTown

      Cutler. Biggest arguments for Griffin are the cheaper price and youth. But for the next three years, I’d take Cutler over Griffin without having to think too hard.

      • Big Mike

        He’s not even cheaper. Skins just extended his contract a year for $16 million

        • BerwynBomber

          No, he’s still about $8M cheaper. Cutler is making three times the money RGIII will during ’15.

          • Big Mike

            In 2016 RG3 will cost less than Cutler. Can’t get rid of Cutler this year. I was surprised the Skins extended him.

          • BerwynBomber

            It is surprising. But it is Snyder and DC. So no surprise there in terms of a questionable move.

          • they can cut him at any point before next April and not pay a dime of that 2016 money (barring injury). What this does is prevent him from being a FA in 2016 if he has a great year in 2015. In that case, it saves them about $3M over a franchise tag.
            Of course, you assume the injury risk. If he gets hurt to the point that he won’t be ready by the start of the 2016 season, the Redskins are on the hook for all that $$.

          • BerwynBomber

            Ok, so the guarantee doesn’t kick in for the ’16 money until next April.

            Yup, I will take RGIII. Easy decision.

          • there’s a deadline. I don’t remember exactly what it is, sometime in March or April.
            But again, fully injury guaranteed before that.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            They picked up his option, he wasn’t extended.

          • Trac

            Technically, that’s an extension.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Technically it isn’t, an extension needs to be signed, this was a option on his rookie deal. But lets not nitpick, it’s still questionable decision making.

          • Trac

            He did sign it. 4 yrs ago. He he.

          • Big Mike

            Same difference $16 million

          • BerwynBomber

            Is the 16M guaranteed? That would be other huge determinate in choosing between the two. Because if it ain’t guaranteed … again, no brainer. You go with Bob.

    • BerwynBomber

      RGIII because of the contract. No-brainer.

      • Big Mike

        The Skins just extended him for a year at $16 million.

        • BerwynBomber

          Ah, didn’t know. Yeah, a huge change. Rationally I suppose you have to take Cutty.

        • BerwynBomber

          But per JWood’s post below that 16M isn’t guaranteed until next April. So again my original stance: RGIII because of contract. A no-brainer.

        • That’s just for one year though. I think it’s the 5th yr option.
          After that, who knows?
          I am curious what a new contract would look like, esp after the cap goes up.
          Might end up being the same as Cutty or might be more around the Alex Smith range.

    • BillW

      Cutty. He was smart enough to sit out when he was hurt. And if his coach told him to go back in, like Shanny did to RGIII, I think Jay would have been careful enough to not hurt himself worse. That is, he would have audibled to handoffs.

      Cutty may have his issues, but brains is not one of them.

      • SC Dave

        Brains definitely *is* one of Cutler’s issues – it takes smarts to read defenses, Bill.

        • BillW

          I see your point. Myself I think he can read ok but either not fast enough or trusts his arm too much or some other disconnect. Those things in my mind constitute “football smarts” rather than brains. . But that may be too narrow of a definition.

    • RG3. He’s shown flashes of greatness, albeit not for a while, but is only 25. Cutler is 32.
      If you had to win games in 2015 to keep your job, I’d take Cutler, but in terms of which one I’d rather have for the rest of their careers I’d gamble on RG3’s potential.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’m still saying contract, contract, contact. If as you suggest below that 16M extension/option isn’t guaranteed for RGIII until next April then basically we would have him on a one-year rookie contract.

        Can’t see why anyone would prefer Cutler over that unless a) one thinks Cutty can win us a title this year, or b) one still sees Cutty as the long-term answer.

    • BillW

      I assume the R-word fans propose that scenario to “prove” that RG-knee is the better QB. (sounds like a bumper sticker).

      • Big Mike

        Bill, FWIW a lot of people just call them the “skins”. I think they believe that this is less offensive to anyone that might be offended. (I have no opinion on this).

        But I think it goes to show that QBs are damn near impossible to find. I’m pulling for RGIII. Had the chance to meet him. He volunteered some time helping a handicapped kid that attends HS with my son.

        Speed was his X-factor. He wasn’t fully healed last year and he was trying to be a pocket passer and he wasn’t ready. The skins o-line was horrible. not a lot of talent. Shanahan doesn’t know what to do with him. He prefers the “back up” Cousins. Nothing wrong with cousins. Definition of a game manager right there.

        • BerwynBomber

          The other thing that has literally hurt RGIII is that he is very exposed when he takes hits. A guy like Wilson rarely if ever is. Don’t know if it is an innate skill by the time they reach that level but RGIII doesn’t seem to body tuck too well prior to impact.

          • Vick and even Steve Young had the same problem. They always seemed to take crunching hits. I think it’s innate for the most part. Also, this is the case where their competitiveness overrides their reason.

            RG3 will reach for those extra 3 yds for a 1st and get blasted, while Wilson will slide/run out of bounds and live for another down.

            Not sure if either could be re-wired.

          • BerwynBomber

            Good point about Vick. Didn’t recall that about Young but knew he suffered a decent amount of concussions.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You were allowed to hit the QB in Young’s day, so there’s that.

    • AlbertInTucson

      And “Death” is not an option…?”

    • I’d take RG3 simply because he’s younger and might be cheaper.
      I’d have a good 2nd option though, and wouldn’t rule out drafting another franchise QB.

  • BearDown100393

    Matt Stafford’s offseason training program appears to be paying dividends. http://i.imgur.com/Dcz0uni.jpg

  • GPLDAN

    This was always my favorite scene in Blues Brothers – the overpass that is OVER – WAY over – the pass.

    I like how it ends up higher than the Hancock and somehow lands on Maxwell street. Illinois Nazis.

    So when I saw the car fall in the new Avengers clip, I had flashbacks to the Blues Brothers overpass

    Those bridges that are 10,000 feet over the city, they seem a little dangerous.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Maxwell Street. My Dad LOVED Maxwell Street. UIC expansion now occupies that space.

  • Scott W.

    Wow. Casserly just went off his nut on NFL Live. Around the 4:30 mark, est.

    • MorganW

      Yeah, when he told the interviewer not to ask questions that they hadn’t discussed off camera? That was pretty good.

      • Scott W.

        Yeah it was. Even got pissed they were live.

  • Scott W.

    Is it just me, or does that Flanagan chick on NFLN have ventriloquist dummy eyes?

  • NewBearInTown

    I think QB trades will all happen before we’re on the clock. So who is the transcendent player that a team would be willing to make a move for? Amari Cooper, Trae Wayans, Vic Beasley or Leonard Williams.
    Question is: if one of those guys is on the board, why don’t we just take him?
    One scenario: The Giants leapfrog the Falcons to grab a pass rusher. We pick up an extra third rounder.
    Another: Cleveland moves up for some player other than a quarterback (or I guess for Mariota, but that’s just unlikely). Assuming its not a QB trade, I think fair compensation would be something like our first and second in exchange for their two firsts and maybe a late pick one direction or the other.
    Weird things happen in the draft though. Exciting to wonder what will come next.

    • Trac

      The Giants make stay put and draft an OT.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Sox at Orioles canceled tonight. And not because of the weather.

    • BerwynBomber

      Forecast: showers of rocks and bricks?

      • Johnnywad

        Or a “hail” of bullets.

    • Trac

      Why?

    • Trac

      Because of de-volution.

  • Viva

    Brandon Scherff would make every aspect of our O better, and I would make him a Bear in three days if Williams or Fowler aren’t available. I know our D was historically and hysterically shit, but I wouldn’t stretch for anyone else (Chicken Dinner flashback) at # 7.

    • NewBearInTown

      I threw my hat in for him a few posts ago as well. I think there are a couple of guys I’d take ahead of him, but he’s a solid pickup at #7. Between Scherff and Long you’ve got right guard and right tackle locked down. Its even possible they both play tackle well and one of them can move over to the left side.
      San Fran did it. Dallas did it. I want the Bears to do it. Build the best offensive line in the league and bully our way to retake the division. Let’s see Clay Matthews on the sideline after our third rushing touchdown – bruised, exhausted and totally ineffective.

      • Viva

        Yeah, I don’t think we need to get sexy. We just need to get better…to the trenches we go.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Make the trenches better. This. Not some flashy skills player. We tried flashy, it’s not very Chicago.

          Grabowski-ball please.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Much as the defense needs help, I would not be opposed to a Scherff selection.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Wow, just finished the Deadspin article Jeff mentioned that is about Whitlock….all I can say is that The Undefeated should have been renamed “The Black Hole” for many reasons and the biggest one isn’t because the site has had trouble seeing the light of day either….thanks for this pointing that story out Jeff. With this and the situation in Baltimore, just surprised less and less about how misconceived people are nowadays

    • BillW

      Props to you for reading all that. Not only was it long, the writer must have gotten bonuses for every comma and dash used. Never read so many wordy sentences containing so many sub parts. Tough to remember what the point of some sentences were. . The first paragraph is a good example.

      I read maybe 10 percent of the whole article and then gave up.

      • AlbertInTucson

        OK. Whitlock’s a disaster as a manager. We get it. We got it in a few paragraphs but at some point the piece ceased being an article and turned into (dull) novella.

        For an article decrying someone’s skills as an editor, this thing was in DIRE need of some editing.

        Regarding Jason Whitlock Is it just me or is signing memos with just your last name the same as speaking in third person?

        At least now it is confirmed why Whitlock is so overweight: He’s full of himself.

        • BearDown100393

          A lot of redundancy in that piece. Reminded me of watching “Men Who Built America”. 5 minutes of recap followed by 30 seconds of storyline advancement and then 10 minutes of commercials.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That is so true of too many shows. The padding with teases and recaps in and out of too long commercial breaks. I stopped trying to watch anything on USA network long ago after I realized that they were in break for so long that I had forgotten what I was watching.

            The de-evolution of American Movie Classics to another prime example.

            The striking down of the NAB code was a big mistake.

            When I started working in TV you could not run breaks longer than 2 minutes and no more than 6 or so per 30 minutes of program.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I think they’ll always make classics, Al.

            It’s 13 years old now, but I think Road to Perdition is a classic. Cast, script, direction. Hanks and Newman in the snow. Tommy guns. It’s all there.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Great film.

            Despite Mssrs, Newman and Hanks, I thought the kid stole the movie.

            BTW, It’s one of the newer films in my DVD library and I HATE you for the cold-water-in-the-face fact that it’s already over a decade old!

            YEESH!

            The Daniel Craig getting executed scene is brilliantly shot.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And Thomas Newman’s score, oscar-winning cinematography … beautiful. Little vignettes like Rooney and Sullivan playing the piano together while Conor watches in envy, Rooney meeting his fate in the snow … a perfect picture.

            Has there been a classic in this decade? I’m trying to think.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Among many OTHER Thomas Newman Movies Scores is SHAWSHANK REDMEPTION. The Newmans are the First Family of movie music stretching back to his Dad Alfred (9 Academy Awards) and Uncle Lionel (Academy Award Winner). Randy Newman s a cousin.

            Other than that, the family hasn’t amounted to much.

          • BearDown100393

            What a great mentioning of an underrated film. The cast was superb. The tone was so bleak with its inevitable conclusion. The dialogue between Hanks and Newman was terrific. Probably the most honest time period piece regarding loyalty and betrayal within the mafia.

          • BerwynBomber

            One issue I had with that film was its mix of historical fact and fiction. Thought it detracted from it more than helped. Also wasn’t crazy about the ending. But yeah, pretty solid flick otherwise.

          • Scott W.

            Keane, starring Damien Lewis.

            If you can find it, watch it.

          • BearDown100393

            I only watch sports live now. All shows are now recorded on DVR and watched later. Save myself about a ton of time.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        It was well-wriiten and hopefully enough to snub out that cancer called Whitlock.

    • BearDown100393

      In other (much shorter) words, Whitlock’s site is a self indulgent Uncle Tom-ish disaster and will supplant Joanie Loves Chachi as being a complete bust.

      • BerwynBomber

        It might be a disaster and he might be a horrible manager, but I do question the motive of the criticism precisely because of his “Uncle Tom” rep. Figures such as Don Lemon, Charles Barkley and Bill Cosby (well, pre-rape Bill Cosby) have all come in for it too. Stray from Al Sharpton-approved narrative in the black community and you’re automatically branded a traitor.

        Like Bill W I only had the patience to skim the article and even my skimming ended a half-dozen paragraphs in but I wonder about the motive behind the piece. Love or hate him, Whitlock’s opinions make more a few people uncomfortable.

        • BearDown100393

          Whitlock is completely hit or miss (IMHO). This project is supposed to highlight and empower its writers. Rather Whitlock (if taking this report on face value) is apparently in full oppression mode. Whitlock has the irritating tendency to denounce others by his own moral playbook. And then proceed to brag about his personal “high” life experiences in night clubs with stripper companions. He won’t play the role model shtick (his right) but seems to have much to say about the lives of others. And that makes him little to no different than the hyper critical gas bag Mariotti.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I wouldn’t disagree with that at all. But like I said, his Uncle Tom rep also makes the dude an easy target.

          • BearDown100393

            Whitlock is a lot of things to a lot of people. And many times, appears to be a contradiction in Jabba proportions. But he is no dummy. Every sentiment committed in his columns has a purpose. And IMO he purposefully implants that sentiment to be controversial and most importantly of all – to be read.

          • AlbertInTucson

            “Power Corrupts”. Apparently it can also make you morbidly obese. Try a salad now and then, Whitlock.

        • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

          there is no such thing as “pre-rape” Bill Cosby. Just sayin.

  • Viva

    Dear Bulllsce,

    Remove collective head from ass, and finish this.

    • Viva

      or wait until game 6.

  • GPLDAN

    The Orioles COO makes a statement

    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CDpUkuiWMAEs144.jpg

    • Viva

      “You never want a serious crisis to go to waste.”

      Rahm Emanuel

      • SC Dave

        There you have it. Straight from the “leader” of Chicago. smfh

  • GPLDAN

    They robbed the reporter from RT. Fuck RT, the Russian television network who would love to stir up shit in this country,

    pic.twitter.com/6TJIZIx7It

    • Waffle

      I was told by 4 teens visiting my neighborhood today that i should lock up my doors and hide my daughter because they’re coming to take my shit and rape my daughter til she dies……she is 5 and was with me on a walk.

      • GPLDAN

        Is that true or a Luftwaffle Reichstag fire?

        • Waffle

          it’s true man, it was fucking surreal.

          haha, reichstag fire….how do you come up with this shit?

          • GPLDAN

            Well that’s very bad then. Perhaps Manson’s interpretation of Helter Skelter was ultimately the correct one.

          • Waffle

            teens get brave in packs and the one kid waited until being 2 blks away before pulling that line out. it was still crazy to hear it.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Did you tell him “You better be bulletproof.” ?

          • Waffle

            nope, just took my girl home for some ice cream and almost started crying watching her eat it in perfect 5yr old Frozen induced oblivion.

          • Viva

            I’ve seen that movie a billion times (6 year old daughter).

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’m seeing it in bits now, because they fuck around so much going to the songs. Like you I’ve seen it a billion times but there are still bits that appear new to me sometimes.

            Attention spans must be reducing globally. When us old geezers had to watch movies on VHS, or watch them on TV, you watched the whole thing. Now they just skip to the bits they want.

            I want Olaf to removed digitally from existence so that I never have to hear him do that Nathan-Lane-On-Amyl-Nitrate “in summer”. It’s not Nathan Lane, singing. Even worse, it’s some kid who grew up wanting to be Nathan Lane.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ah, the Frozen franchise. Like crack and diamonds for the little princesses. I’ve got four year old twins that can’t get enough of that shit, can barely string two sentences of English together, but can sing the shit out of those songs. For that, I thank Disney.

            Better get Star Wars right. Anyone lose their shit when they saw Chewie and Han?

          • GPLDAN

            only you commented on my (admittedly) brilliant Matthew McCounghey watches Star Wars trailer link. Cause it rocked it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It was more realistic than the ‘genuine’ reactions of the fan postings. These guys losing their shit in an OTT manner … and then you realize they weren’t even alive when the first movies came out.

          • Johnnywad

            Sounds like it might be time to move Johnny. I’m sure you’re not one to tuck and run, but fuck it. Too much at stake here. Sooner or later, crazy people do crazy shit. Best to not be close at hand. Especially so with little ice cream eating cha chas in tow.

          • Waffle

            my particular neighborhood is pretty safe. It’s the areas surrounding it that start to become a little dicey.

          • Viva

            Can I quote you on that?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ah, y’see. It’s a very dark thing to say if he’s right up in your face. 2 blocks means he wanted a chase/reaction. He still deserves a beating. An important lesson.

          • Scott W.

            Stay safe partner.

          • Waffle

            Everything will be ok if we get Leonard Williams.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If we get Leonard Williams, we’ll send him around to your hood and look for those teens. I’m thinking Denzel-style in Man on fire. Explosive device up the jaxie.

      • Viva

        I have four layers of security in my house, which include deterrents. I’m # 5 and I can see in the dark.

        • Waffle

          i just have fucking toys lying around, anyone that breaks in will shatter their ankles immediately…
          I won’t even have to go for the gun, they’ll trip on the stairs littered with every Palace Pet accessory and disney princess gown shoes known to man.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This. If walking on dinosaurs in bare feet doesn’t have them howling, then slipping on spilt yoghurt or milk will cause multiple spinal fractures ……

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Truth! My dad stepped on a plastic dinosaur once that my brother left lying around.
            Put him in the ER for the puncture wound (couple inches deep and a few inches long) and a walking boot for a month.
            It was an ichthyosaur, I believe.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Jurassic… PART ?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Does one of those include a sound file that plays when they enter the house?
          “I have acquired a set of very specific skills ….”

          • Waffle

            haha, just the soft sound of a confident Neeson telling you what he’s about to do to you.

          • Viva

            There are two noise deterrence…a very loud alarm, and my dog Annie.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Get the fuck out of here! really?
        I’d lose my shit. I think i would have lost my shit right there, but if the kid is there you’ve got to think twice. It would take everything I had not to put my thumbs into his eyesockets right there and then. Jesus.

        I’d go to the police with that, man. That’s a threat of rape and murder. It’s just a shot away. I’d either go the pigs or put thumbs into sockets. there. Fuck them. That’s justifiable GBH.

        • Waffle

          i told my neighbor who’s a former HRT sniper. He called it in so i’m sure the coppers will keep an eye out for the neighbors.

          I could tell it was bravado but it was sad to hear. They were far enough away where it wasn’t some sort of intimate encounter because that would have been outlandish.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hang in there, Waffle. That’s some fucked up shit. Nothing excuses such verbal vomit.

        • GPLDAN

          Here’s some funny shit in all the chaos.

          Jesse Jackson in the middle of the Gray funeral, with the Vietnam 10,000 yard stare like he would give anything not to be there.

          http://www.slate.com/content/dam/slate/blogs/the_slatest/2015/04/27/150427_baltimore/150427_SLATEST_BMore-01.jpg.CROP.original-original.jpg

          The guy trying to make a name for himself by performing Michael Jackson’s Beat It constantly during the riot

          • Waffle

            haha, jamming out to Beat It while the choppers are circling in the distance.

          • GPLDAN

            How long before Take Two puts dancing to Beat It on top of a truck into the next GTA 5 patch?

          • Waffle

            man, how entertaining was GTA Vice City? I had the radio blasting flock of seagulls after creating enough mayhem to get the army involved and accelerated my Cheetah off of a ramp and as i’m sailing through the air you can see the tanks and troop transports and cop cars and the cheetah is on fire…..”and i run, i run so far awayyyyyy, gotta get away…. then i explode.

      • beninnorcal

        Jesus. This world is fucked. Keep ’em locked and loaded, Johnny

      • Trac

        This is a non football post and I’m sure there are some that will be offended by my comments so if you want to put the blinders on, do it now.

        There is something majorly wrong with the mindset of most Americans when it comes to these violent outbursts that we have seen in Missouri and now in Maryland. It’s as if people have been blinded to what is really going on here because so many people have been bamboozled into thinking that if they speak out against this sort of behavior, they’ll somehow be labelled as a racist or bigot. This is pure D anarchy. Nothing that has happened in my lifetime justifies this kind of behavior by anyone living in our society. So what is the reason for these acts of violence and violent outbursts? Once again, the good book that has been the focus of ridicule and hatred by so many over the course of time has all the answers for us but because the eyes of a nation have been blinded by their own selfish desires, the wisdom contained within its pages have been hidden from them because they have rejected it. So many children growing up in society today have been misled into believing that there is no higher authority than themselves and it really is no surprise to me to see the results of that, flare up from time to time. Eventually, it will get worse.

        “And because lawlessness will abound, the love of many will grow cold.” Mathew 24:12

        .

        • Doc Hamstring

          Looking at the riots in Baltimore and the violence that happened in Ferguson and painting with a wide brush is like saying all cops are corrupt, murderers, etc.

          If you take that leap from a small number of rioters (compared to the large numbers of peaceful protesters or massive numbers of people who just stay home) and castigate “those people” as being violent, or use the violence as justification for reprisals, then yes, that’s wrong. The same way it’s wrong to use repeated instances of police brutality to make a judgement about ALL police.

          • Trac

            Good thoughts Doc. I guess one thing I notice that’s taking place not only in society as a whole but by me personally is the unwillingness to stick our necks out on the line by calling out something for what it really is.

          • Big Mike

            Trac, from a public policy, macro perspective, what’s happening is that inequity, perceived and unreal, fuels violence. The spark are often the angriest, least civil elements of a community, with nothing to lose. But the fuel for the fire is the general feeling of being on the short end of the stick. Highly publicized, inflammatory acts by police (some wrongly criticized, others there were no excuse for) have lit the powder keg. The refueling of the anger comes from working at walmart, needing aid to make ends meet, and the disappearance of the hope of a nice middle class life.

            We now return to the Bears.

            Somehow the riots in Baltimore are Cutler’s fault.

          • Trac

            Treat the disease not the symptoms. Easier said than done.

        • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

          “Grey did the one thing he was taught over and over all his life NOT to do…..he looked into the eyes of a police man.”

          • Trac

            Which do you think would have profited Gray more? To be taught not to look into the eyes of a police man or to be taught to look into the eyes of Jesus?

          • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

            wow.

      • Ososfan

        Wtf? Be safe Waffle!

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Deadspin piece on @WhitlockJason is about as damning as anything I’ve read about someone in the media. Who leaked ALL THAT STUFF?

    You forgot to mention “Complete with damning audio.”

    • MikeBrownhadaPosse

      Going back years, I wondered why Jeff liked Whitlock even a smidge. The dude has far more ego than talent, as is obvious in the piece.

  • BerwynBomber
    • Big Mike

      Trade back and stop the fall.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        several “experts” are saying he will drop out of 1st round. if he is there at 7 in the second take him

  • Irish Sweetness
    • ““I look up and see this fireball, ‘Whoosh!’ and then another, ‘Whoosh!’ ” said Marrero, 57, a pigeon fancier”
      I too fancy pigeons.

    • GPLDAN

      That’s two things GTA 5 needs.

      Guys doing Beat It on the tops of trucks and UFOs buzzing the hood.

      • willbest

        I remember GTA back when it was about the cars.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Check out this PCP smoker From NFL.COM :

    Bears swing megadeal for Tampa’s No. 1

    Chicago wants to start over at quarterback. So do the Bucs. That leads Bears general manager Ryan Pace to pick up the phone and offer Tampa a slew of picks — this year’s seventh overall selection and next year’s first and second — to move up six spots into No. 1. Chicago also throws in Matt Forte (with one year left on his deal) and Jay Cutler.

    The upshot: John Fox and Adam Gase land their young quarterback of the future in Jameis Winston while Lovie strolls down a familiar path: fawning over veterans from his time with the Bears. For a team with so many needs, though, the trade gives Tampa plenty of ammunition to build with. — Marc Sessler

    • SC Dave

      Unreal what people will write for page clicks.

    • Scott W.

      I did a LA-LA Land post yesterday with a similar scenario with Tennessee.

      Can I sue him for plagiarism?

    • AlbertInTucson

      No, thank you.

  • Doc Hamstring

    Here’s my actual prediction:

    With the 7th pick in the 2015 Draft, the Chicago Bears…

    … have traded their pick.

    Later in the first round, they’ll take Scherf.

    • Big Mike

      Can’t trade back too far and get Scherf. The OL guys are usually not talked about, but by the end of the first round a bunch of them are taken.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But you could get a Peat or a Flowers …. LB and OL with the first two picks is a sweet start.

        • Trac

          Exactly. I’d trade back and draft Flowers in a heartbeat if all the studs are gone.

    • Trac

      Half right. They’ll draft a true OT.

  • Thompson Way

    Leonard Williams – for we are the dreamers, the dreamers of dreams…

    • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

      is that a Pete Namlook & Bill Laswell reference?

      • BillW

        Or Willy Wonka misqoute? “We are the music makers; and we are the dreamers of dreams.” Which itself is a part of a poem named Ode:

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ode_%28poem%29

        • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

          and I got my reference wrong….I meant Aphex Twin, who uses that sample from Willie Wonka.

          (ambient techno, so you old fogies may want to stay clear)

  • GPLDAN
    • Trac

      I think that column may be spot on.

    • SI ripped me off!
      I think Winston’s “floor” is Cutler, and his “ceiling” is Luck/Roth.
      Winston is a risk taker by nature, so he’ll never be in the Rodgers/Brees/Wilson mold.

      • NewBearInTown

        Winston’s floor is any one of the dozen or so failed #1 picks spent on a QB. He’s got all the tools to be successful, but you just never know with some guys till they play in the pros.

  • BerwynBomber

    Assuming we were able to trade back and Winston, Williams and Mariota are all gone, it would be interesting to see which player is selected at #7. In other words, who is that coveted that it would cause a team to swap first rounds for and give up a later round pick.

  • GPLDAN

    Who is opening their wallet so Floyd can have another Bentley?

    $100 PPV this Saturday. Who is a taker? Anyone copping to it? I am skipping it. I prefer to see Rousey Judo crush some 135 lb. mouse between her thunder thighs like so much toothpaste.

    • NewBearInTown

      Fights are tricky things. Some of them are over in literally seconds and you’ve spent $100 to basically watch the undercard. I don’t think anyone is predicting this one to end in the first round, but the risk is always there.
      I enjoy boxing and MMA, but I don’t think pay per view is a format I would pay in to.
      That’s one good thing about the NFL (that Goodell is trying to ruin). If you’ve got a lousy game on Sunday, you just change the channel. Not to another league, to another game.

    • BerwynBomber

      PPV, more than anything else, killed the popularity of boxing. Technically, for a fight as “mega” as Mayweather/Pacquio it is not that objectionable (though the C-note asking price is ridiculous). But when virtually EVERY championship fight is PPV it is utterly ridiculous. Or even more absurd is when every fight of a media darling like De La Hoya’s career was PPV.

      When your sport is dying it is not a good idea to make it less accessible to the masses.

      Oh, and I’ll pass on the $100 asking price. This fight should have taken place four or five years ago. Now these guys are a bit passed their prime, especially Pac-man.

      • GPLDAN

        Agreed.

        Mayweather, esp. He used to glide around the ring like he was on ice skates. As he got into his 30s, he mostly plods and uses his freakishly long arms for his size to beat his opponent to the contact, setting that long jab up all night waiting for his killshot.

        I have no desire to feed the dead sport.

    • Like I told my friend, if I wanted to watch 2 over the hill has beens fight, I’d watch Rocky V, VI for like $2.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    BSPN did a mock, before the Bears picked Winston, Mariota, Williams, Fowler Jr., Cooper and White were all gone. Jeff Dickerson picked Brandon Scherff for the Bears in that scenario. I go back and forth, Scherff is the non-sexy pick that could make an impact but at 7 it just doesn’t feel right.

    • NewBearInTown

      It doesn’t feel right because he has short arms. The guy will be an NFL tackle as a rookie. A starting tackle at #7 feels just fine.

      • GPLDAN

        A RT to replace Mills with the #7 pick in the 1st round?

        Fuck me – the NFL draft is such a group think circle jerk. You take Shelton if it pans that way.

        • NewBearInTown

          Which one of us is spouting the group think? If he’s a 10 year starter on the right side and can shut down Shelton when the Bears play whoever takes him, then that’s a good draft pick.
          And the guy has the upside to replace (and improve on) Bushrod. His floor is day 1 starting right guard.
          Group think is saying “we must take this other player because you can’t draft a guard in the top 10.” Group think is saying “Scherff can’t be a left tackle because his arms are too short.”

          • GPLDAN

            In the draft from two years ago, Scherff would have been a 2nd rounder. You chase talent, not the position.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Then you take Cam Erving, C, FSU in round 2 and you have improved both lines without taking a converted tackle with TRex arms. You have solved the C position for the next several years, keep Long at RG and find a RT in the 1st round next year.

          • Erving will most likely be gone by pick 39.

          • Maybe, but i think they’re will still be a bunch of WRs and “project” LTs that go before. A position will be pushed down. It’s usually ILB, S, or C. Also, lots of teams always like getting a qb athe top of the 2nd, thus further pushing down those positions

    • BerwynBomber

      Can’t go O that high unless he is either a QB or an eventual sure-fire Pro Bowl caliber guy.

  • Bear Down in Tampa
  • Trac

    Deon Jordon/3rd overall selection in 2013 just got sent to the back of the bus for a year. Just goes to show you how easy it is to not choose wisely. Take away the failed wee wee test and the Fins still didn’t get their money’s worth with this guy. It’s stories like this that make me want to settle for a solid blue chip player over a high risk, high reward pick.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/04/28/report-dion-jordan-suspended-for-2015-season/

  • Ososfan

    Bud Dupree I believe is going to be very good in the league if we could possibly trade down for more picks he should still be there in the mid rounds……

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      There’s buzz about him going top 15-20.

      • There’s buzz about him going top 10. Especially with Ray/Gregory dropping.

        • I actually read up on him more cuz some have him going before Beasley, but i think that might be because he ran a 4.59 at 270.

          • it’s because he’s 20 pounds heavier. So he has all the size/speed measurables you could ever want, but he’s very raw. Lots of potential, but that is a RISKY pick in the top 10.

  • Waffle

    Way to piss on Piccolo’s family Matty…..

    • NewBearInTown

      I’m not sure, but I think he might create an issue for his holdout if he comes to get the award.
      If I’m not mistaken, if a player does not show up for camp, then he loses out on his workout bonuses but that’s it. If a player comes to camp, but then leaves without permission, I believe there are some additional penalties that can come into play (conduct detrimental to the team, etc.) That’s a vague description, but I know there is an issue there.
      I’d like to hear his agent explain it (and if its the same guy as last time, Matt will be out all summer), but I do wonder if that was the reason Matt stayed away.

  • Titan’s GM implies there’s only like 16 true 1st rounders, and that of those 16 some don’t fit your defense or Oscheme, while others come with character/inj risks, so that those prospects get further narrowed.

    Important to remember “tiers” when trading down.

    • GPLDAN

      And you know who ISN’T in that sweet 16? Scherff.

      *cough cough* Carimi *cough cough*

  • Maybe this Scherff propaganda vid will convert GP.

    • Waffle

      haha, I love when he could just let up but just proceeds to drive some poor guy into the turf.

      • GPLDAN

        He looks like Chris Kyle’s younger, bigger and badder brother.

        They should call him IHOP cause he’s good at pancakes.

      • Dude is a mean MOFO. And by most accounts he was playing injured last season.

        As long as he can play OT and other guys like Fowler, Williams, Beasley are off the board, then I think I would be ok with Scherff.

        Many have the Gmen drafting him at #10, so that would make them geniuses and us dumb at #7? Just depends who’s still on the board.

        Scherff holds a bit too much, but I’m sure he’ll clean that up. Just no Robert Gallery, plz.

  • Butch presents…a white RB.

    http://draftbreakdown.com/video/zach-zenner-vs-montana-state-2014/

    If we miss out on Yeldon, this guy might be in play in the later rounds. 5’11, 223, 4.6 40yd, nice hands, decent pass catcher. Extremely stiff and won’t win any salsa competitions, but tanks have a place in the NFL too.

    What RB we get depends on the Forte situation. If we stick with him, then we can probably draft a “complementary” HB, perhaps a smaller more explosive back, but if we plan on replacing him, then give me a 3 down back with thick thighs, 5’11, 220 with attitude.

    • GPLDAN

      Da blog LA-LA-Loves the white running backs ala Lynch.

      • Comes from a small school too.

        Zenner. Oddly sounding eastern block name. Check.
        White. Check.
        Small school. Check.
        Motor. Check
        Attitude. Check.
        Late rounder. Check.

  • Quick Q&A with Georgie McCaskey. Don’t know if he looks like a wealthy southern dilettante, or that uncle your mom never leaves you alone with…

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/McCaskey-on-Piccolo-Awards-Forte/2e05d67d-b180-465c-8952-7ede56ec4823

  • AlbertInTucson

    No Sox at O’s again tonight.

    • GPLDAN

      They were going to move the games to Washington.

      And then Al Sharpton will march on Washington like Sherman headed to Atlanta.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        O’s games against the Rays this weekend are here and will be a home game for the O’s. They won’t bring that looting down here because we are pretty loose with our conceal carry laws and we have stand your ground. Someone even comes close to my car with a brick and they get turned into Swiss cheese.

    • AlbertInTucson

      They WILL play Wednesday. With NO FANS in attendence.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Bears have Sutton and Ferguson listed as DE’s with Ratliff being the only true NT on the roster. Considering Ratliff hasn’t made it through an entire season since 2011, methinks NT maybe a targeted position come Thursday.

    • If we trade down, I’d be ok with that.
      There’s a few that should be good. Shelton, Phillips, Goldman, Brown.
      It’s actually a decent NT class, which is odd to say. Even a guy like Carl Davis can be had in like the 3rd.

      • NewBearInTown

        Traditionally, NT is a good second day position to target. I could see us taking a guy at the top of the third and getting solid production.
        But it is possible that Ego will be moved back to the middle.

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