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Vikings Hand Bears Third Straight Loss (Rapid Fire)

| December 21st, 2015

The Bears have hit a wall. They overachieved for the better part of this season and there seems to be very little left in the tank. Injuries and lack of talent have finally caught up with them. When a game is this lopsided there’s little reason to dissect the minutiae but here comes rapid fire nevertheless…

  • How Ryan Pace handles Alshon Jeffery will be interesting. He’s a difference maker on the field but he just never seems to be on the field. Can you really pay a receiver elite money when he is only out there ten games a season?
  • Offensive line is climbing the ladder of concern every week. Too many penalties and three of the five positions have been legitimately poor for several weeks. All the skill talent in the world won’t make a difference in 2016 if Bears can’t block em up front.
  • Jay Cutler’s season has stalled with the declining line play. But even when he’s had time to throw, there’s nowhere to go with the ball. No, the receivers are not getting open. But can’t Adam Gase create some easy non-bubble screen throws to move the ball? I keep hearing how effective Gase’s system has been. I haven’t a clue what that system entails.

  • That’s a second Cutler INT on a screen pass. That’s called being predictable.
  • John Timu looked like a middle linebacker. Next two games will be pivotal for him.
  • Willie Young may not think he’s a 3-4 outside linebacker but he’s been the best 3-4 outside linebacker on the Bears for six weeks.
  • Lamarr Houston. Can’t stay onside, huh?
  • Great call by the coaching staff to go onside kick to start second half. Shocked me.
  • Is Bryce Callahan really this important to the defense? Since he left the lineup they’ve been unable to cover anything underneath.
  • Baby steps, Robbie Gould.
  • Pernell McPhee can shoot off after these games about intensity and effort but he hasn’t exactly been Lawrence Taylor of late. I know he’s playing through injury but he’s been mediocre doing so. He’s a vocal leader and the defense needs that but I have to wonder how tiring these speeches get in the locker room.
  • Eddie Royal is not an outside receiver. He’s a slot guy. And he sure ain’t running like he’s 100%.
  • Cutler: “We’ll find out who in the locker room has some character and wants to finish and who doesn’t.” Couldn’t agree more. Many of the players on this roster are not guaranteed a return trip to Bourbonnais next summer. Bears will learn a great deal the next two weeks.

Final response to the loss? It happens. Eventually the Bears weren’t going to be able to keep a game close. Too many injuries. Too many mistakes. And when you’re a team with deficiencies in talent, those are the two things impossible to overcome.

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  • Irish Sweetness

    How about that Star Wars spoiler thread so we can rip Episode VII to shreds Jefe?

    Nice to see Timu do well. Now can we have Long back at RG and Tayo to RT please?

    Draft. Free Agency. Superbowl. We can stick a fork in this one.

    Go Steelers!

    • Sactowns#1

      I saw it over the weekend. It was pretty good. They tried to be a little too cute and jokey at times but the cinematography/ CGI looked great, the actors were actually pretty good and the pacing was quick. Check it our Irish.

  • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

    I haven’t been able to watch the whole game yet (was only able to watch intermittently at a family Christmas party), but based I what I saw I have 2 clear thoughts:

    1) We’ve danced around this for weeks, but it’s time to state it: Adam Gase is an in-game liability as an OC.

    2) You’re not going to win many (any?) NFL games when the opposing QB averages 11 yards per passing attempt and throws more TDs than incompletions.

    • DaBearsBlog

      I’m trying to give Gase benefit of the doubt because of skill player injuries. But I actually think he’s neutering Cutler. I don’t give a shit that Jay is throwing less picks. The Pats have wide receivers off the street and Josh McDaniels has a system that gets them open right off the snap.

      I’m now rooting for Gase to get HC gig.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        it seems 2nd nature to have a run-heavy team run play action, but the Bears just don’t. They telegraph what they’re doing so badly by formation, and it drives me crazy. Teams have picked up on his tendencies big time as the season goes on, and he hasn’t adjusted.

        • Sactowns#1

          The empty backfield on 2nd down drives me nuts for sure.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            That was a trend since the PS, and something I stashed in the old noggin.

            Honestly, I don’t know why any team goes empty backfield, but with our struggling Oline and chump WRs, it really defies logic (esp when we have Langford/Forte as HBs).

            It’s one thing if you’re the Steelers or Cards, it’s quite another when Mariani is running routes.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

          It does seem Gase has fizzled over the second half of the season.
          Whatever happened to the 3 TE formation? The read-option? Bootleg? etc

          He doesn’t seem as creative.

  • The GP

    Hroniss Bonus. Pronounced: (Ha-ROHN-us bo-NUS)

    The bonus given to teams playing the Bears when their center doesn’t block at all, completely whiffs the block due to his small stature and is completely overpowered inside. Results in instant pocket collapse and subsequent shit storms ensue. Often results in a TFL or turnover as QB has a lineman on him prior to even completing the drop motion. Caused by drafting wily lineman out of Oregon unsuited for the rigors of NFL play on the basis of their wily nature and experience running quick spread offenses and yelling out line corrections. Treatments include reaching out to free agency to ‘Montgomery’ the problem.

    • Blackhawks63

      Lighten up. Grasu was a 3rd round developmental pick at Center. He shouldn’t be playing this year and instead should be spending 7 days a week in the weight room, on a nutrition plan and working with the coaches on techniques. He has been thrown to the wolves too early and it has clearly showed. Review his progress in a year and then feel free to critique. But not now.

      • The GP

        Oh you can bet I will.

        Check the newbie giving me the Francis. Hi Four Feathers

        • MB30SD

          #Gotchalittlebitch!

          Hoozah!

      • Johnnywad

        Third rounders should be year one contributors. Not projects.

        • SC Dave

          But how many are?

          • Johnnywad

            Depends on the team in question I’d guess. Good organizations, probably most. Bears the last fifteen years, none.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      I would’ve gladly given up that 3rd to move to get Leonard. Oh well.
      I said it since the draft, Hroniss is a young Garza, nothing more nothing less.
      Some like that out of a 3rd. Others want more.

  • The GP

    The Vikes are most likely at this stage to face the Pack in the wildcard. I hope Floyd et al. really have that kind of interior push against a weaker than usual Pack line. Because they were dominant yesterday. The Bears were slapped around by the front 4 like it was Alan Page and the people eaters out there.

    • MB30SD

      Seeekz

    • Anonymous

      Is the Cheese’s line “weaker than usual”? What seemed unusual was how well it pass-protected last year. Otherwise, seems like most years Rodgers runs for his life up there.

      • The GP

        Every time I hear the analysts talk about the Pack’s poor offensive output this year, I hear talk about how poorly the line is blocking for Rodgers. And Rodgers always runs around out there, so it’s hard to base assumptions on how much he scrambles.

  • The GP

    Best story from yesterday: The announcers, who loved licking the Vikings boots, telling the story of how Zimmer showed Teddy films of Joe Montana. And told him to be legendary.

    If Zimmer’s daughter gives a beej, is it called a Zimmer Hummer or a Zimmer Gummer?

    http://corrizimmer.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/381046_2328093612425_731676812_n.jpg

    • Anonymous

      Zimmer’s been pimping Bridgewater since he got there. Who knows? Seems to be working even if Teddy appears to have some limitations.

  • Viva

    I’m pulling for the Panthers to go undefeated. It’s all about Peanut!

    • MB30SD

      Fuck the panthers

      • Viva

        I heart Peanut.

        • MB30SD

          Me too, and Chico, and their two ILBs… maybe crush is a better word there.

          AND I think Cam is a total stud, but I just can’t stand the level of showboating and gloating going on. Kinda makes me throw up in my mouth a little.

          (that and I still have resentment over girlythor disappearing and being a total pussy while on the bears, only to go to them and be a stud)

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t think Girly Thor has changed. He was always pretty easy to get on the ground. It’s just that he has a much better surrounding cast. The guy always was good. Some of the guys on the blog started beating on him right from the start and never let up. No doubt he’s better now but shouldn’t good players progress as their careers unfold?

          • MB30SD

            yes. that whole era was kind of frustrating and brutal.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            haha, and yet you liked the Seahawks. Talk about showboating!

          • MB30SD

            i like their d, settle down

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            But their D were a bunch of showboaters! Does anyone yap more than Sherman?

            Hey, I like a bit of showboating, so I have no issues with it, but if you’re ok with the D swagging, you should be cook with the O dabbing!

            Dab!

          • MB30SD

            d is different, we’re allowed to, o are pussies

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Cam is making the Ds look like pussies!

            https://media.giphy.com/media/13bSemsXvibIru/giphy.gif

          • MB30SD

            : /

    • Blackhawks63

      My hunch is that Carolina gets smoked by somebody in the NFC playoffs. Just not buying that team. Outstanding defense. But the offense is all Cam Newton…he has nothing at wide receiver. Somehow I can see a team like Seattle or Arizona shutting that offense down.

      • MB30SD

        Were we seperated at birth. And, um, I just said the exact same thing, please ease up on the plagerizmz

    • SC Dave

      Go Panthers!! Olsen for Super Bowl MVP. Or Luke.

  • Trac

    While you guys are talking oranges, I’m thinking apples. How bout dem apples?

    Actually, I’ve already switched gears to full time draft mode and I’m pondering a few thoughts.

    1. What stage of rebuild is this team really at? I get the sense that the bloom has come of the rose for Gase and company and for the first time this year, I actually think they finally have a starting point as to how to proceed next year.

    2. Are the Bears in total rebuild mode from top to bottom? Any chance the top brass makes a play for QB Connor Cook? Are the Bears going to continue to delay drafting a QB high for another year? I’m not sure about that.

    3. Are the Bears going to Build around Cuttler? I can definitely see why they might but would that be the right strateegery? I’m not sure about that either.

    Connor Cook might not be the best player available when the Bears draft next year but if they have a chance at getting him, I don’t see how they can pass him up.

    4. Are the Bears going to try and bandaid this thing for another year? I sure hope not. Every veteran than has failed to produce solid improvement and value over the last 3 or 4 years has to go don’t they? I’m looking at you Shae!

    5. What side of the ball will the Bears neglect next year? I sure hope it’s not on defense?

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      they have resources (draft picks and $$) to improve both sides of the ball. Defense will be the primary focus though, IMO.
      They are set at QB, RB, WR. Need to figure out TE and OL (re-sign Montgomery, who will cost nothing, add a FA G and draft one, figure out what you’re doing at OT. Then figure out what you’re doing with Bennett/Miller).
      On the defense, they need help pretty much everywhere. 1-2 starters added on the DL, 1 OLB, 1-2 ILB, 1 CB, 1 S.

      • MB30SD

        Easy with the slurs data, and they’re called vagina-challenged these days. Smh

    • Blackhawks63

      It’s hard to be critical of Adam Gase when the offensive line is a big fat mess and the wide receiver corp has been a joke all year long.

      • willbest

        Why is the o-line a mess now, when it acquitted itself well a couple of weeks ago?

        • Blackhawks63

          Oh c’mon, the offensive line strung together 2 good games. Whoopie. Charles Leno Jr. is far from a certainty at LT. Hroniss Grasu has been horribly overmatched in his rookie season (he needs a couple of years development and weight room time), RG has been a joke and Kyle Long has struggled at RT (to put it charitably).

      • Anonymous

        The O-line has only played like a mess the last couple/few weeks. Up till then they were probably the best or second best line in the division given how bad GB’s and DET’s have been.

        Black Uni takes a lot of crit on here but he mostly produced while on the field. Good chance he won’t be back but he did good work while he was here.

    • Anonymous

      If Pace believes Cook is a franchise/10 year starter guy then I agree. Doesn’t matter what your other needs are. When you’re a sub-500 team with a QB who will be 33 next year and has only taken a team to the playoffs once in his career you better start thinking future.

      But if they don’t think Cook is the goods and/or they believe next year is truly an SB-contending year, then you go defense.

      • wreckinball

        I’d draft a QB if one of the top three are there
        I doubt Jay is going anywhere but that would be OK for next year
        Jay plus rook

  • Blackhawks63

    Here’s the thing. The thing we all deep down knew when Ryan Pace and John Fox were hired. What is that thing? Well, the talent on this roster is dreadful and we are talking a several year rebuild. I am big fan of Pace and Fox…they are the right men for the job. And I do think Pace had a strong first offseason. But the Bears have SO MANY needs.

    1. Defensive end – we need TWO….we have been reduced down to playing street free agents at a critically important position..and it has killed us
    2. Inside linebacker – we need TWO…God willing, the Shea McClellin era is going to END permanently in two weeks. And Christian Jones, the much ballyhooed undrafted player? Well, he sucks.
    3. Safety – we need ONE…Antrel Rolle is older than Moses, and played like it in 2015.
    4. Cornerback – we need ONE…we can live in denial on Kyle Fuller all we want, but he is going down the McClellin path of being a bust
    5. Offensive Tackle – we need ONE, and we need Kyle Long to move back to RG
    6. Offensive Lineman – we need ONE…another lineman in the pipeline
    7. Tight End – we need ONE…given that screwball Martellus Bennett is a goner and Zach Miller has great difficulty staying healthy
    8. QB – we need ONE…a developmental QB of legitimate quality (hint…NOT David Fales)

    Bears aren’t going to get all of this done in another draft….or free agency. It will take a couple more years.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      IMO Porter, not Fuller, is the CB who needs to be replaced. Has fallen back down to Earth hard the last few weeks.

      • BearDown100393

        Neither are ideal.

        • Blackhawks63

          And hence why, when you add up all the rebuilding that needs to happen, we better not expect great results in 2016 either. This roster is ugly. Can’t live in denial on that.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Don’t need All-Pros at every level.
            A solid pass rush will improve everything behind.

      • Blackhawks63

        Well sure, the pixie dust was bound to wear off Terry Porter at some point. So yeah, I can argue we need TWO cornerbacks.

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          Fangio/Donatell have a history of developing less-heralded CBs and getting solid play out of them. Typically they focus more resources on front 7 and safeties.

          So I’m guessing Porter gets re-signed for fairly cheap, and he, Fuller, Callahan, and a later round pick are the top 4 CBs next year. Also don’t sleep on a guy like Jacoby Glenn developing, SF routinely had CBs who were UDFAs stick around on PS/fringe roster for a year or 2 before becoming solid rotational CBs.

    • MB30SD

      Might you offer a monthly, or bi-monthly newsletter sir?

      • Johnnywad

        He did. Back when his handle was “Four Feathers”. Bear that in mind.

        • The GP

          + a lot

        • MB30SD

          Holy shit!!!

          I’ve been duped. I would like to cancel my request and put in for some gift-prozac.

          I do strangely agree with everything said ON THIS THREAD.

          The lack of total and absolute misery and despair in every single post tricked me. Interesting that if you strip that all away, he’s actually pretty logical.

    • willbest

      Bears can’t afford #8 next year. And truthfully, if he handled half the needs, you would see a solid improvement in overall play. Good players make those around them better.

      • Blackhawks63

        And hence why I honestly think 2016 is still going to be a tough season. There are SO MANY needs on this club. The talent gap, even in a league with lots of parity, is jaw dropping. God how I will curse Phil Emery and Jerry Angelo to the grave.

        • DaBearsBlog

          Depends what your goals are. If your goals are a winning season and fight for a playoff spot, they don’t have to fill all these needs. They need to do what they did last off-season and add 5-6 quality starters.

          • MB30SD

            this

          • BearDown100393

            Name the 5 or 6 quality starters added to the team this season

          • Johnnywad

            Goldman, Langford, McPhee, Amos, Porter, Montgomery (can’t remember if Montgomery was this year)

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Leno at LT is a huge plus too. How many teams would kill for a decent LT?
            Young and Houston have answered the bell too as of late.

          • BillW

            A bit unfair since moving to 3-4 was a huge adjustment. Still we have Willie Young as an “additional” of a kind, and Amos and McPhee and Goldman.

            On offense I’d say Cutler in a way. Then Zach and Kevin White with a big asterisk. And Langford.

            Certainly a lot to question or debate but there are several places of solid improvement. Just not enough to hide the large remaining weaknesses

        • BillW

          I’ve concluded the same. 7-9 next year is more realistic than playoffs. . I believe in this regime and I’d rather take the view they are a bit farther away than kid myself into thinking the playoffs are a reasonable expectation.

          • Cubsnlinux

            7-9 is realistic? Don’t set the bar too low. 7-9 with that huge cap space couple with a decent draft is very achievable. If Bears don’t go at least 8-8 next season then I would consider that as a regression. With a sorry excuse for talent all over we are still in a position to finish with no worse than 5 wins this year and that with around 7 games decided by 3 points or less.

          • BillW

            I don’t disagree. Simply trying to recognize the amount of work to be done. With a good draft we certainly could be 9-7 but a lot would need to fall into place.

          • SC Dave

            Fuck 9-7. 11-5 or bust!

          • Blackhawks63

            Teams that become successful do not build through free agency. The Bears MUST draft and develop well. It’s the only path. Free agency can be used to fill in a gap or two, and pick up temporary stop gaps.

        • Sactowns#1

          Please see Patriots, Seahawks and Bengals if you need examples of teams able to win even with injuries or lack of super talents.

    • wreckinball

      We need a bunch is the summary
      Not going to get all that
      Coaches and GM need to prioritize needs

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      you forgot kicker.

      • CanadaBear

        That made me laugh!

      • SC Dave

        Troll

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          he listed damn near every other position so had to throw it out there. But you are correct I knew I would get a response from you.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)
  • 505Bears

    Hey, we are pretty good at holding. #1 in the league. No improvements needed there…..ugh

  • MB30SD
    • Scharfinator

      I wonder what it is like to be so rich you are disconnected from the real world.

      • MB30SD

        must be so fucking fabulous. I want to check it out… just for like… 3 years… maybe 6.

        • CanadaBear

          Better make it your last years on earth because life would be pretty disappointing after living the high life.

          • MB30SD

            agree. might as well go out big… shooting machine guns and smashing 10s with huge boobies erra night and throwing $650k parties.

            Just drop the mike and jump out of a plan without a shute I guess.

          • CanadaBear

            Once your time was running out just go all Lamar Odom on them until you stroke out!

          • MB30SD

            hahahahahaha… nah, I’d rather save a bunch of kids from a burning orphanage and die of smoke inhalation. Like getting a viking burial all-in-one.

          • CanadaBear

            You always seem to operate on a higher moral plane than me! Or not!

          • MB30SD

            hahahahaha… probably not my brother.

  • CanadaBear

    My pre season prediction was 5 wins. After the GB game i went to 6 wins. Should have stayed at 5. As bad as the game was yesterday, I came home from the bar and the blog was worse. Not sure how some of the regs handle it. I make a point to stay off during the game. Going forward I think I’ll stay off until Monday.

    • willbest

      Neither of the remaining teams on our schedule are playing for anything either. I doubt the Bears lose both.

      • CanadaBear

        We’ll see.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      I tend to ignore most who are not regs.

      Makes Da Blog a MUCH better experience.

      The rest are on probation.

  • MB30SD

    Hey canada, I’m guessing this isn’t your speed, but how was your sunday? Mine was Motley fucking Crue. Boom: https://imgflip.com/i/w4k33

    • CanadaBear

      Did you go see them? My Sunday was OK other than the game. We’re doing the snowbird thing in Mesa. Not overly warm but lots of sun.

      • MB30SD

        Yes! Farewell tour. Fucking tommy lee’s drumset follows that crazy scaffold thing and he goes upside down… it’s nuts. Amazing show. Alice Cooper opened, but he’s not really my style, although he’s certainly a showman.

        • The GP

          Alice Cooper. Ha.

          • MB30SD

            dude, he’s 67!

          • BearDown100393

            Vampires of Hollywood

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            It would be awesome if Amaric Cooper dressed up like him.
            He is a Raider, afterall.

        • CanadaBear

          Cool. Never seen them or Alice. I know Tommy’s supposed to be a good drummer.

          I’m doing 50 but just barely! Fortunately for the drivers in the area, my Honey Bunny does most of the driving. She likes to drive and if I never drove another car I’d be just as happy. I always drive home if she’s had any drinks.

        • Cormonster

          Crue always puts on a great stage show, but how did the music sound? I’ve heard mixed reviews from friends. The few times I seen them back in the day Mick Mars was terrible, but Tommy could rock.

          • MB30SD

            tommy tore shit up. So did nikki. Vince’ voice is close to shot, but you have to expect that… he’s old and very fat now.

            But all-in-all, it was a great show and I’m glad I went.

          • SC Dave

            Crue NEVER sounded other than shit.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Corm, where you been? We can only drag you out when we bring up music!

          • Cormonster

            I don’t know enough to comment on the Bears. I’ve turned into a casual fan, so I don’t really know anything about the team or the NFL other than what I read here and looking at stats. I’ve only really watched one full Bears game this year and half assed watched 5 or 6 other games. All passion for the NFL is gone. I hit a breaking point with the NFL and Chicago sports media last year and haven’t listened to or read anything in over a year. This is my one stop shop for all Bears news and whatever else you guys are up to. Still love my Bears Blog Brethren!

            I’ve been on a live music roll lately. I’ve seen close to 40 different bands in the last 3 months. 10 days ago was quite the musical extravaganza. I went to the Warren Haynes Xmas jam in Asheville, NC. Eight bands and over 8 hours straight of live music with two friends I’ve been going to concerts with for the last 30 years . All the bands were good to great. Seen Love Cannon (bluegrass), Hot Tuna (former members of Jefferson Airplane), Bruce Hornsby, Dawes (rock), Blackberry Smoke (Southern Rock), Doobie Brothers, Tedeschi Trucks (12 piece band), and the Warren Haynes band (bluegrass / Americana). Tedeschi Trucks just tore the roof off the place with their set. Susan Tedeschi is one hell of a singer. If interested, here she is channeling her inner Janis Joplin on the Beatle’s With a Little Help from my Friends:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6Zd4JnmboU

            And a sweet version of Leonard Cohen’s Bird on the Wire:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Flk91paCWOY

  • BillW

    Interesting that we all seem to have reached the conclusion that Gase is a weak in game oc. And I’d add weak game planner as Jeff alludes to. We were so scared he’d leave. Now I’m almost afraid he won’t.

    The defense is weak due to lack of talent. While we could use upgrades on offense, esp the line, this should still be a unit capable of much more.

    I guess I’m repeating myself since I’ve concluded this after the sf loss. But really it’s a matter of realizing what happened. The Bears offense is predictable. I don’t know if they are simply trying to replicate what worked against gb but it seems the last three teams know what we’re running.

    In a way that’s helps me deal with this unexpected regression. Now let’s see if Gase can dial up something different the last two.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      to be fair to Gase, the skill position players have been hugely banged up this year.
      But his play calling has gotten predictable and stale as the season has progressed. Teams have clearly scouted his tendencies out, and he’s not adjusting to counterpunch.

      • Johnnywad

        Doubt Gase planned on Long regressing either. Nothing works if your best Lineman suddenly can’t block anything up.

        • BillW

          Great point. I know little about line play but Biggsy said today Long was beat by a hand swipe on the strip sack. I think the same happened last week. So that’s a move he is susceptible to.

        • Scharfinator

          Why the hell did he move him though? Why make a pro bowler change positions? It’s so ass backwards in its thinking.

          • CanadaBear

            The first and last couple of weeks of the season Long looked bad but looked good in between. He certainly has the body of a tackle. He got tossed into RT without any real practice. It will be interesting to see which way they go in the off season.

          • TBC

            Because guards are easy to find. They always had plans on moving him. I doubt they take him at #18 (or whatever it was) if they wanted to keep him at Guard.

            It would be like drafting an all-pro fullback in the 1st round. That’s hyperbole of course, but I hope you get my point.

          • Scharfinator

            Who cares where you took an all pro? They’re an all pro – let them do their job.

          • TBC

            Not all positions are created equal. You wouldn’t take an All-pro kicker in the 1st, or an all-pro long snapper. What is the value of a pro-bowl guard? I’m not sure. Maybe it is worth the 18th pick. But if Kyle Long turns out to be a top 20 tackle, that’s probably more valuable than a top 10 guard.

            That’s why they make the move. However, if he continues to struggle, then you probably move him back. But you have to understand why they tried it.

          • Scharfinator

            I get your point – but I still don’t understand why they tried it in the manner they did. Give him a full offseason to practice.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Seems obvious. There’s a reason top OTs ALWAYS go before top OGs in the draft. Heck, sometimes the 5th best OT goes before the best C/OG in the draft.

            It’s not rocket science.

          • SC Dave

            That didnt take long… smfh now just as i was then

          • SC Dave

            Oh gawd…. I’m afraid to read ahead for the ‘guards are easy to find’ idiocy…

        • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

          rumor is Long is playing through a bad back that’s severely limiting him.
          Whatever the reason, he’s certainly taken a nosedive the last 2 weeks.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            That’s what I’m assuming too, that Long is inj.

            No one regresses like THAT in such a short span. He’s a RT, not a QB. It’s not as if DCs finally picked up on some obvious defect he has that wasn’t there all season.

    • wreckinball

      The players are the problem not Gase

    • Blackhawks63

      For crying out loud, what a meatball reaction. The Bears have an awful offensive line, instability at tight end and a wide receiver corp that has been decimated by injuries. Yet your meatball reaction is that Adam Gase is the problem. Cannot stand idiot fan reaction like this. Learn football please.

      • BillW

        Well we know what your favorite insult is..

        My concerns on Gase predictable or worse play calling and game planning are hardly unique. But I will say your point is valid in that in the beginning of the year I praised him for designing a game plan based on what he had vs what he wished he had

        Now maybe he’s down to “this is all we can do and if it doesn’t work then I’ve got nothing”

        I happen to think that lets him off the hook too easy

        • Sactowns#1

          Yup. Everyone has injuries and sub par players. Good coaches win despite that.
          Btw- I really want a meatball sub from Zia’s now. Damn it!

          • BillW

            Wow. Funny you mention that. I’m on my way later to by a gift card there for a family member Christmas gift

          • Sactowns#1

            Bastardo! Mail me a meatball or two, volere.

          • BillW

            You’re an Edison Park dude originally?

          • Sactowns#1

            Nope. Cali born and raised. But I have family and friends in Oak Park and Elmhurst. Some of the best food I’ve had is out there.

      • SC Dave

        It’s all Robbie’s fault. All the meatheads know THAT!

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      Jeff MUST blame Gase cuz if he doesn’t, he’s gotta blame Cutty, and we all know that’ll be a cold day in hell (like it was Gase’s fault Cutty threw that dump off INT to yet another fat boy).

      We all have biases, and I’m pretty sure most of the regs recognize Jeff’s and take that into consideration.

  • The GP

    Bushrod to LT, Leno to RT, Long back to G

    • willbest

      Leno already has proven he struggles on the Right side. He is a better LT than RT. Bushrod isn’t going to be on the team next year. He is too injured, too old, and being paid too much money.

    • Blackhawks63

      Bushrod is through with the Bears, and maybe with the NFL altogether. He won’t be back in Chicago. Bad back and in major decline.

      • The GP

        I just meant for the last 2 games.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      Leno was HORRIBLE on the right side.
      Tayo at RT!

  • MB30SD
  • Sactowns#1

    Once again this coaching staff showed themselves as inept and spineless (onside kick aside). The decision to not call a timeout before the half was pathetic. The play calling was so predictable that if Gase were playing Madden any 10 year old would destroy him. I think we all knew the D was going to need some rebuilding but the offense has looked downright sad. Let me guess, you will point to injuries. “But if every single player were 100% we would be winning. Wahhhh” Funny how NE can keep winning. It’s called coaching and it’s damn sure we aint got it. Funny thing is everyone is still on this coaching staffs side when A) Our team is doing just as poorly today as they did under the much derided Crypt Keeper and B) Denver seems to being doing much better without this staff.
    Talk me down from the ledge here gents but I’m leaning towards burning the whole thing down.

    • Blackhawks63

      Congratulations ! You are running in first place for idiot meatball fan of the day. The Bears are severely devoid of talent on this roster and yet your idiot response is that John Fox, Vin Gangio and Adam Gase are terrible at their jobs. Please do us all a favor and go suck on the exhaust pipe of mom’s car.

      • Sactowns#1

        A) Thanks for not rebutting any of my claims. I can see you’re a real wizard at logical argumentation. B) Please tell me how this year is different from last. Same talent for the most part, in fact a bit more on defense. So why the same level of production?
        This is like me taking my car to the mechanic because it would stall at idle. Mechanic X cant fix it and I get upset and fire him. Hire mechanic Y and he says it’s getting fixed but it still keeps stalling. Now I blame the age of the car instead of the guy I hired to fix it.

        • Blackhawks63

          Yep, coaching is THE problem. Never mind that this team has nothing at Defense End or Inside Linebacker. Or that we have severe need also for a quality Safety and Cornerback. Or that Matt Slauson and Kyle Long are the only credible and ready offensive linemen on this team. Or that the wide receiver corp has been injury riddled and a joke all year. Etc. Yep, in your little pea brain world the first year coaching staff is the problem. Lovely stuff.

          • BillW

            As I said losing makes this board ugly. We are all frustrated and we’ll all fans. Let’s try to avoid eating our own.

            Where’s Cheesy when we need him?

          • TBC

            I knew you’d come crawling back, Bill.

    • DaBearsBlog

      You can’t actually believe that. A team that has lost a bunch of close games at the death versus a team that was blown out weekly are not comparable in any way.

      • Blackhawks63

        You can’t fix stupid. He’s a meatball with all the answers sitting in his armchair.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          are you any different? Just a meatball with all the answers sitting in an armchair. Join the fucking club. we all think we know the answers.

          • SC Dave

            I don’t.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Personally, I’m in a recliner. But every once in a while I climb up on my director’s chair and pontificate.

      • Sactowns#1

        I’m looking at one side of the ball. The defense has progressed but the offense is the same or worse. Yes we were getting blown out but that was a function of the D. We actually scored slightly more points per game last year. The fact we are staying close is because the D has improved. The reason we are losing is because the offense has not.

    • willbest

      Denver is in danger of not winning its division. Don’t know how that is a step forward for that organization.
      But yes if Fox doesn’t put up 9 wins next year he won’t have done better than the Crypt Keeper.
      Even the great Tom Brady looked mortal when you took away Gronk, Danny, and Edelman. I don’t know why you would expect Cutler to not when he is without 3 of his 4 starting WR and the 4th one is injured and playing out of position.
      I am hoping the vanilla play calling is the result of not having any practice and bad o-line play.

      • Blackhawks63

        Vanilla play calling? What on earth do you friggin expect with Cutler playing behind THAT offensive line and with a joke of joke wide receiver corp that includes a perpetually dinged up Alshon, a severely hobbled Royal and a bunch of street free agents otherwise? Oh, and Martellus Bennett is gone. THINK before you type.

        • willbest

          Miller is clearly the best TE on the Bears roster this year, and Bennett was clearly phoning it in after about week 3. So I don’t know why you would mention him.
          And Cutler played behind a worse line in 2009-2012

          • Sactowns#1

            Will, don’t feed the troll. Dudes obviously just tumble weed, blowing through and fckn up traffic.

          • BillW

            Actually it sounds like you and Blackhawk are in agreement in principle at least. I read posts before I see who wrote them

            When I saw you criticizing fox and comparison to trestman I thought maybe barb was back

          • BillW

            Losing makes this board ugly. “Regulars” think their criticisms are pertinent and others are trolling.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            When criticisms comes with name calling and not backing up the criticism, then yes they are trolling. If you disagree with someone’s point of view you better have something more than calling someone a meatball, especially if you are new to the board.

          • BillW

            Agreed.

          • Sactowns#1

            Can a brother get an AMEN?!

          • BillW

            I’ll give you one. Amen

          • Sactowns#1

            Where’s Trac when you need him?

          • MB30SD

            what have you become… you’re not the same sweet boy I met in SD?!? ; )

          • Sactowns#1

            Hahaha! I have become embittered by this string of woefully mismanaged games. Sigh… That win in SD seems like a lifetime ago.

          • MB30SD

            hahaha… buck up lad, we’ll be good next year. Maybe not into the 2nd round good, but good enough to get our ticket punched to the reindeer games.

          • SC Dave

            Fuck yeah… ‘murica! Bears! One and the same!

          • Sactowns#1

            Haha. No Barb here. Just observations and a real question, what makes people think this coaching staff (HQ and OC) is better than what we just jettisoned?

          • BillW

            I get your frustration. But I think you know they are better even if that is damning with faint praise. Instead of being laughingstocks we’re just regular losers

            But better times are coming. This regime is growing the team instead of worrying about growing the man

          • Trac

            I like to think we can agree to disagree Sac.

          • CanadaBear

            It’s a little easier to do when there is no name calling.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, like even MB and I can agree to disagree that he’s always wrong!

            Of course, I keeed, compadre!

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      We are NOWHERE near the crytpkeeper low. Not even close.

      This is the ONLY game were we weren’t in it the 4rth, I think, and that’s with Clausen in SEA.

      I think fans are looking at this the wrong way. They’re upset that the Bears were decisively beaten, when in reality, they should be relatively content that the Bears weren’t decisively beaten in a lot of other games given that we played the Cards, Seahawks, Pack (twice) and Broncos.

      There is only ONE NE cuz there’s only one Bill and Brady (and to a certain extent, Gronk).

      We’re in year ONE of a rebuild, how much depth is expected? Half these guys are leftovers from Emery and even Angelo. It’ll take more than one off-season to not only change the culture, but add depth and explosiviness in all 3 phases.

      You can tell POX is experimenting this year to see what’s working and what’s not (how many players have been tried who we don’t even know?), and that process will naturally lead to some failures.

      However, in the grand scheme of things, I think so far they’re trending in the right direction.

      The next offseason will clue us in much more as to how they really operate.

      Until then, it’s always been a “meh” season that no reasonable fan expected much from.

      The consensus was always, “competitive games in Dec” and that’s what we got.

      This was the first truly non-competitive game vs a division rival on the road who’s playoff bound.

      A loss wasn’t a huge surprise. Two more losses wouldn’t be a huge surprise. Just gotta stay the course.

      • Shady

        THIS people, THIS.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “The Bears have hit a wall. They overachieved for the better part of this season and there seems to be very little left in the tank. Injuries and lack of talent have finally caught up with them.”

    That about sums it up for me.

  • willbest

    Next year is not a rebuild. They put up 9 wins, or Fox has failed. They have a lot of work to do this off-season. More than they did 2 weeks ago unless they are claiming people are healthy that aren’t.
    They need Jeffery. If they are worried about his injuries, tag him and roll the dice. It won’t turn out any worse than Henry Melton.
    They need to draft a RT, CB, ILB, OLB. Even if they pick stuff up in FA, they need more.
    They need to win the FA battle for the Jet’s lineman that doesn’t get tagged.
    I don’t care where they get their safety from but Rolle isn’t it.

    • Blackhawks63

      9 wins in year 2 of a major rebuild is optimistic. The Bears would need to catch a few breaks and get lucky for 9 wins to honestly happen.

      Free agency is not a legitimate way to fix the Bears. Sure, we can pick up a couple of strategic pieces. But this team needs to be properly built and developed via the draft. And that takes time.

      • willbest

        Optimistic based on what they did in year 1. Required based on any reasonable time table that has Cutler as your Starting QB. And if he isn’t your guy going forward, he shouldn’t be playing right now.

        • Cubsnlinux

          I agree with everything you said above except about not playing Cutler if he isn’t the guy going forward. I think 9 wins is a very reasonable expectation. Heck they could have had 9 wins this season if Gould did what he usually does and a couple of 3 pt games went our way. I think a few folks are setting the bar low given the horrors in 2014.

          I don’t think there is a definite difference maker at QB in this year’s draft and the Bears can’t take chances at that position in draft given all the other gaping holes. I think Cutler will be the Bears QB for at least 2 more seasons. We don’t have a viable alternative at this point. I think Fales is a career backup QB.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

        FA can complement the draft. We as Bears fan should know this. Peppers, MchPhee, etc

        But as always, the real building gets done through the draft, but as the Seahawks have shown, it doesn’t take as long to turn a franchise around through the draft as it used to.

        As long as the GM, Coaching and QB is in place, a team has a chance at a WC any given year IMO. Shit. We were about 4 plays away from contending for the WC this year.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      a veteran ILB can usually be bought in FA for relatively cheap, and I suspect that’s the route the conservative Fox will go. That’s part of the reason Shea is still on the field cuz he can call the plays.

      I think POX feels ok at OLB with McPhee, Houston, Young, and maybe even Shea if they replace him at ILB. They’ll seek to upgrade, but it won’t be a priority.

      I think POXs priority will be Dline and secondary, specifically a CB and S.

      I think that’s where they’ll spend the $ or draft highly.

    • Irish Sweetness

      1. Tayo’s our RT, they just don’t know it yet. I have learned to heavily underestimate coaches.

      2. OLB? We have Young, McPhee, Anderson, Acho, yada yada yada …

      3. ILB? Timu’s a baller. The penny will drop for wither Jones or McClellin.

      4. DE is where we need talent. Then everyone else in behind looks better.

  • MB30SD
    • CanadaBear

      Great looking but definitely not gonna smoke anyone in a race.

    • Sactowns#1

      Went to the auction with a past gf a few years back. She fell in love with the S2000. I tried to talk her out of it but she wanted it so be big and won. Crazy thing is 3-4 years later she sold it and made $5k off of it. People love those Japanese sports cars. Cant even find an NSX for sale these days.

    • The GP

      For You Only Live Twice, they had to cut the bottom of that car out so Connery could sit in it.

  • MB30SD
  • Anonymous

    “How Ryan Pace handles Alshon Jeffery will be interesting. He’s a difference maker on the field but he just never seems to be on the field. Can you really pay a receiver elite money when he is only out there ten games a season?”

    Alshon played sixteen games in 2014. He played sixteen games in 2013. He may miss BMarsh as the #1 but a) he is only 25, and b) he doesn’t appear (yet) to be a chronically injured guy.

    Pay him or franchise him. Can’t see letting him walk w/out knowing what you have in White.

    • CanadaBear

      Exactly. If they are afraid to commit long term, tag him. Hopefully they can sign him long term to a contract just below the top tier guys.

      • BillW

        Biggsy in 10 thoughts said they have to keep him and work on the reason he is getting hurt now. A no brainer the way Brad said it

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      Alshon should have sat out a couple games last year. he could barely run and was not effective.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        Yep. Long history of nagging injuries, dating back to college. Usually plays through them, but at less than 100% effectiveness.
        Need to find some way to keep him fully healthy so he can be a true gamebreaker, like he was in 2013 and for parts of this year.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          With all the injuries this year the Front Office should take a hard look at their training/medical staff. They should also look a little closer at the turf they are playing and practicing on, way too many leg injuries.

          • BillW

            Yes. 100 times. Especially the part about the practice field

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            brand new training staff this year, I believe.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Alshon will be the Arian Foster of WRs.

            Great when healthy, but rarely healthy, always hobbled, and notoriously slow healing.

            Alshon will reveal a philosophical stance.

            If we’re going to be a D oriented, run team that grinds it out. then that 12M/yr should go to a defensive player (POX MUST believe in White since they drafted him that high).

            But will we get a high 2nd (what Alshon was) in return (and there’s no use just letting him go for compensation)?

            However, no denying that Alshon indeed improves that O. Keeps the safeties honest. More yds per play. Redzone danger (esp if Marty is gone).

            I would structure a contract where if he misses game, he doesn’t get paid, something along those lines, but not sure if that’s gonna help our cap.

            Most likely, Alshon will demand a comparable contract to TY Hilton.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Araian was top RB arguably at one point. AJ was never top receiver or even in the discussion.

    • Sactowns#1

      You forget, this is Pace. The guy who traded BMarsh for a bag of Fritos.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        don’t underestimate the value of a bag of Fritos.

        • Sactowns#1

          They even shafted us on the chili that was supposed to be ladled directly into the bag. 🙁

      • BillW

        We know that had nothing to do with talent. Time to get over that. Even if you disagree you have to at least see the reasoning. He made a call possibly based on info we’ll never know

        • Sactowns#1

          I will never get over that! It will be on my tombstone “Here lies Sac. He loved the Bears and hated that BMarsh trade. RIP”

          • BillW

            Well we all have stuff like that. Though the consensus pet peeve trade is playing for an undefeated team at a high level

          • Sactowns#1

            Meh. He was a bit of a gamble without a lot of games under his belt. BMarsh is a known badass.

    • BearDown100393

      Franchise tag a wide receiver – what’s the bill?

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        $12.5 million or so.

    • Irish Sweetness

      AJ isn’t worth elite money even when healthy. He’s just not that receiver. Yet. Is anyone else going to pay him? No way I’d franchise the dude, that’s sucker money.

      54 receptions 807 yards, 4 TDs.

      Meanwhile, BMarsh has 11 TDs, 40 more receptions and 400 more yards, from a QB that nobody gave a tuppence for before the season.

  • That Guy

    The offense is a mess, more than anything, because the offensive line is a mess. Get 1-2 solid upgrades along the line and all sorts of stuff will open up. It looks like Forte will not be back unless he’s willing to be part of a 1-2 punch, but who knows what the market will tell him? Outside of Forte, there will be no major holes on offense except the O-line. That is the key.

    Defense is a mess all over. That’s where the major rebuilding still needs to happen. I don’t have a problem paying for top FAs, but we can’t blow all our cap space on one position. There are anywhere from 5-10 guys not our roster that will get significant playing time on defense next year.

    The loss doesn’t bother me. I expected to lose about 10 this year and we’re on pace.

    The blowout doesn’t bother me. Those happen when you’re losing 10 in a season.

    What bothers me is that our worst losses this season were to Green Bay and Minnesota. Green Bay is maybe on the downswing, but Rodgers is still young. Minny seems to be ascending though. It will be a tough division next year.

    • Irish Sweetness

      But the defensive mess gets much better when you have three bad-ass linemen in front of them. Maybe Goldman turns out to be studly, but the ends ?

      If Long goes back to guard, we should be good, but need to pick up an extra tackle anyway. Tayo must be having a hard time with the playbook.

  • BillW

    JWood or Jeff or anyone:any good upgrades to the OL to be had in FA?

  • MB30SD
    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      not sure if i can trust you. someone please click the link and tell me its okay.

      • Cubsnlinux

        I thought you can trust anything with that username of yours.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          the last link i opened that MB posted was pics of JPP’s exploded hand. not pretty.

          • MB30SD

            yeah, that was disgusting. nightmarish stuff really.

      • MB30SD

        that hurts

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i am also in the office today. so if it is bouncing boobs, i need a little warning so the boss is not looking over my shoulder

          • MB30SD

            not that at all. it’s a rock video

        • Trac

          More like, is it in yet? Hahaha. C’mon mangs, you know it’s true. Lol

          • MB30SD

            Are you alluding to the fact that I may posses a smallish phallus?

            It’s entirely possible. I do drive a monster truck, have a 70″ TV, and always upgrade to the largest phone on the market. I must compensate somehow my maings.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    repost!

    On the bright side. We’re now #11 in the draft.

    It’s amazing that we’re not higher with our record, but apparently lots of teams suck.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/20

    We control our own destiny. Two more losses and a top 5 pick! [cross fingers]

    ——————————————————-

    Any buyers?

    WKBW Buffalo’s Joe Buscaglia believes Bills LE Mario Williams will not be back with the team next season.

    Buffalocan save $12.9 million against the 2016 cap by cutting Williams, who is not a great fit in Rex Ryan’s defense. It is a no-brainer move Williamswill likely welcome. Williams will be 31 in January, but he is also
    just a season removed from a 14.5-sack campaign.He would find plenty of suitors on the open market. – Roto

    • willbest

      Bears have drafted more studs over 20 (Long, Olsen), than they have under 10 (Urlacher) in the last 15 years despite having similar chances (5 over 20, 4 top 10s).

      The other interesting thing I found is that the Bears like to draft 14th. Which they have done 4 times out of the last 15 years. Selecting Fuller, Chris Williams, Tommie Harris, and Michael Hayes. So they don’t seem to do particularly well with that selection.

      I think the only value with having a high draft pick is that perhaps somebody gives you an extra second for moving back a bit. That being said, I don’t know enough about the players available where I have got a chubby for this or that OLB. Cook/Goff aren’t Luck. And I haven’t heard of a Wall masquerading as a right tackle so losing for draft pick isn’t even a consideration. Simple fact of the matter is we have some many needs that there will be an elite guy there at 16 that we could use immediate. Knowing who that is however is on the scouting department. We will no doubt be QQing about Mosley or Jones and what could have been if Pace comes up empty again. And that isn’t to say White is his fault. But if he demonstrates to be a brittle player I think that one would be on Pace.

      I would like to see Fales, I think it is criminal he didn’t see forth quarter playing time unless they have no intention of keeping him next year, at which point you wonder why they got rid of Clausen.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

        I think looking at the draft history of a franchise is suspect because POX wasn’t drafting for the Bears in the past, Angelo and Emery was, but that is an interesting factoid about the #14.

        I think Jeff’s continued creed “You can find a player anywhere in the draft” is ludicrous.

        I mean, anyone can point to drafting Rodgers in the 20s, or Brady in the 6th, or finding a Foster in UFDA, but the whole point about the draft, and football in general, and perhaps life, is that you MINIMIZE chance.

        Do we really want to be crossing our fingers hoping Leonard Williams or Aaron Donald falls into our laps again, or do we want a high pick for POX to say, “That’s our man. #1 on our board. FTW!” ?

        I mean, anyone who plays in FF in a snake auction doesn’t just say, “Well, I can find a great player at 9.” Maybe one can, but why rely on chance?

        I don’t get the logic of “a team can find anyone anywhere”. It might be true statistically, but I’d much rather err on the side of probability, esp in this day and age of rookie contracts being so cheap.

        My logic. High pick. Get a TRUE blue chip at blue chip position (QB, rush, LT, CB) and let the chips fall where they may, but in order for that to take place, we need to be close to #5-7 again.

        • CanadaBear

          If we can get up to #4 maybe there will be a Cedrunk available!

          • willbest

            Bears are actually historically very good at #4. 50% of their picks from the 4 spot are in the hall of fame.

          • CanadaBear

            Cedrunk wasn’t one of them.

          • AlbertInTucson

            (Shudder).

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            You’re too jaded, Canada! lol

            I know it’s early, but we gotta give POX a chance to reverse that mentality!

          • CanadaBear

            I totally get what you’re saying and can’t disagree. But it just goes against my grain.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            I get it Canada, trust, esp after last season. You’ve been a Bears fan for life, which might feel like a life long prison sentence with that one glorious conjugal visit by the swedish bikini team in ’85.

            But, as Andy Dusfrane so sagely advised, we must keep hope.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YM7y5KrS4QI

            Better to be a hopeful fool then a correct cynic?

          • CanadaBear

            I’m old enough that I got to enjoy the ’63 win. So 2 in 50+ years, WOO-HOO!

          • MB30SD

            damn! you old! hahaaha

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            I think Canada, Al, and BillW are the eldermen on this blog.
            Jack Lacan too? Who else enjoyed the 63′ season?

          • CanadaBear

            What can I say? I’m getting social security (and Canada Pension).

          • BillW

            Me too.

          • MB30SD

            great analogy

          • MB30SD

            this… all the negative nancies and downer eeyores make this place hard to visit these days. uhhhhggggg

            (you weren’t included in that canada)

          • CanadaBear

            Mostly on Sunday’s and Monday’s.

          • MB30SD

            looks like you’ve got a case a the mundees!

          • RenoBear

            This. It honestly sucks the lifeblood out of me reading their shit. The last three games sucked, yeah we get it. The team has a severe lack of talent. Shit like this happens. Rebuild. Get the fuck over it. Smh

          • MB30SD

            Exactly reno

        • BearDown100393

          “When you draft first, you get the top pick” – John Madden logic 101

      • Irish Sweetness

        Is Long a stud now ? And I’m curious – how is how other GMs drafted in certain positions related to how POX will draft? Their first one was pretty good.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    Well, to review, here were the things I was looking forward to coming into the week.

    ODB-v-Norman. HOLY SHITE!. ODB lost his mind! lol I dunno, many ppl hate him now, but I kinda like the spunky competitiveness. Yeah, he went a lil wild, but most great players lose their mind at least once in a game. Got it out of the way, and I think ODB got the better of him physically, but obviously not mentally.

    And who predicted the Gmen would upset or come VERY close to it? Muah. Like I said, somehow, someway, they would, and they stormed back from 28 points down.

    It’s ashame they’re not going to be in the playoffs cuz as they continue to demonstrate, Eli and crew can take nearly anyone out when it counts.

    2. Denver D v Steeler O.

    I was curious how the Steelers were going to attack them, and how they would fare. At the start, the Denver D seemed to have the upper hand, helped by the Denver O maintaining drives. But eventually, the Steeler D shut out the Denver O in the second half, while Roth began attacking them aggressively through the air.

    Antonio Brown is the best WR in football right now. What he did to that vaunted D is impressive. And on 3rd down instead of running it, the traditional procedure, they threw it to Brown. Caught. Game over.

    The Denver D is still formidable though. They shut down the run game, but vs teams like the Pats and Steelers, that won’t matter much.

    3. Can SEA keep up the Arial assault? Answer. YES. Wow. Dough Baldwin caught TWO more TDs, and Lockette 1. Wilson is putting up historic numbers, better than Rodgers. We all saw flashes of Wilson’s brilliance, but now that he’s asked to put the team on his back, he’s doing it consistently. Coupled with that D (who still has playmakers), who can stop them?

    4. Cards-vs-Eagles. Well, battle of the birds wasn’t much. Nothing much to report except the Eagles aren’t as good as the Cards who are on a SB run. Bradford didn’t do to badly though, but IMO, Chip’s O is too inconsistent to be successful in the NFL. He would need a Rodger-esque type QB to make it run like it should, and those don’t just drop out of trees.

    5. Pack-v-Raiders. Nothing much. Pack barely edged out a fledgling team. Like I said, the Raiders could air it out when need be, but Carr’s inexperience and two early picks doomed them from the start.

    • CanadaBear

      There’s just something about Chip Kelly’s Charlie Brown head, It always make me smile when things don’t work out for him. Not sure why.

      • MB30SD
        • CanadaBear

          Holy Crap! Not sure he will ever get his life back on track.

          • AlbertInTucson

            That explains that loud FLUSHING sound I heard.

          • CanadaBear

            I know it’s the pollyanna in me but I feel bad for the guy. What a waste.

          • AlbertInTucson

            I don’t see “Pollyanna” in that at all.

            It IS truly a shame to see the young man waste such talent and opportunity.

            Saw him play in college against Arizona.

            He looked like a man among boys.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

          Again?!

    • willbest

      The only way I justify the Seattle love is that they are the 3rd best team right now in a shockingly mediocre NFC. I don’t think they are going to have any easy wins in playoffs including a trip to the Redskins.

    • Irish Sweetness

      So Brandon Marshall – supposedly, well I don’t know what Brandon did or did not do – but OBJ goes crazy multiple times on a field, punching people, and he gets a pass?

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    Hey, GP, ODB is suspended!

    #FFwoes

    • The GP

      I was sure the guy who voted that up was Trac.

      #ConsolationBracket

      Also, don’t forget – Cam will self-bench the last game I need him.

      All that – and I’m still gonna win.

      • CanadaBear

        Trac and I are very much alike (other than religion and politics).

        • The GP

          …in that you wish failure upon me.

          I see how it is.

          • CanadaBear

            I can’t keep track of the FF stuff. I would never wish ill upon you. Also, I have it on good authority that you’re twice my size.

          • Trac

            Me neither, the dude gives great Italian Beef reviews. If I ever go back to Chicago, I’ll need his help again.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

        lol talking smack, and Trac can’t do squat about it until next season!

        You got other hot WRs though. Never know.

        Watkins scored like 16 more points than ODB, but ODB gives you a certain floor.

        • Trac

          Trust me, I will not miss the draft again.

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            hope not. But drafting is only half the battle.

            Last week I started only 3 players I drafted.

            Brady/Palmer/Cooper.

            And I wasn’t even going to start Cooper, I was going to start Lockett.

            Of course, doesn’t help when two RBs I drafted went down.

            You vs Artoo should be a pretty good match up.

          • Trac

            Yeah but outside of AP who I got through the auto draft, I had to juggle hot garbage the whole season.

        • MB30SD

          and he scored a couple 10-8 rounds, so he’s got that going for him

  • TBC

    Sooo apparently the Bears Still Suck?

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      We lost to get a higher draft pick and screw the pack over.

      • TBC

        And fair play to you for that.

  • willbest

    NFL has a bit of an issue for week 17 SNF. It looks like the most meaningful game will be Vikings @ Packers, as it is likely it will be for the #3 vs. 6 seed.

    There are a bunch of games where if 1 team wins they will probably be in, but that is the only game that is meaningful to both teams. Problem is that game is probably going to be repeated the following week with this week really just determining home field for next week.

    Otherwise you got Bucs @ Carolina for the unbeaten season

    Seahawks @ Arizona – which looks good as some sort of playoff insight game, but will probably be a bunch of backups because it is likely that after this Sunday Arizona will be locked into the #2 and Seattle the #5.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      I think I read that all 12 playoff spots this week could be clinched, which means little to play for in week 17.

      • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

        SEA and MIN have identical records right now, so those week 17 matchups could be very important for both of them.

        • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

          Yeah, I think all teams can clinch playoff spot, but as to who hosts and byes, I think that can still be up in the air come week 17, esp with the Vikes.

        • willbest

          The issue though is making good TV. If the game MN v. GB has a chance to make the outcome of the SEA v. ARI game moot, then you don’t really don’t want to risk putting a game that might be meaningless in primetime.

          • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

            isn’t there some NFCE game that will decide which shitty team gets to go get curb-stomped by one of the Wild Cards? Or for the AFC South?

          • willbest

            Every other game is going to be potential playoff team, playing spoiler team. And then for many of those games it won’t matter if certain other conditions are met earlier in the day.

      • willbest

        You can accomplish it with a tie in the GB v. ARI game in the NFC, but I don’t know how you could manage it in the AFC

    • Anonymous

      Good catch.

      Only thing that could change is if both PHI and NYG win next week as they play each other the final week. (But I don’t know where WAS would fit in terms of tiebreakers.)

      Surprised nothing in the AFC lined up, which is a bit more of a cluster/undecided.

  • The GP

    The NSA backdoored the majority of corporate america’s firewalls, and they made the password Sun Tsu.

    Snowden’s collegues got brass ones.

    https://boingboing.net/2015/12/21/juniper-networks-backdoor-conf.html

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    KKK building death-rays to kill Muslim Americans.

    #progressTrump

    http://anonhq.com/weapon-mass-destruction-specially-made-kill-muslims/

    • The GP

      Kay Kay Kay Ray Gun?

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

        Who would direct this movie? Tarintino? Coehen Bros?

        • MB30SD

          I’ll tell you after xmas eve

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gnRbXn4-Yis

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            Yeah, that looks interesting.

            Did you watch the last Bond flick? Was gonna catch it, but I heard it sucked!

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    Bears ILB Shea McClellin is week to week with a concussion.

    McClellin missed three games earlier this season with a knee issue. Making the transition from outside linebacker, McClellin has been a dud on the interior of Vic Fangio’s defense.- Roto

    • Shady

      I suppose it would be fitting if Sunday was his last game in a Bears uniform.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

        Sadly, I don’t think it will be.
        Fangio is smitten with Shea like Tice was with Webb, or Lovie with Hester at WR.

        Some projects just defy logic.

        • MB30SD

          has been a duuuuuuuuuud on the interior

          • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

            And we all knew WebbNation and Hester SUCKED, but for some inexplicable reason, the coaches still put them out there.

            I fear Shea is our Webb and Hester project.

          • Shady

            At least you could kind of understand the Hester thing. I mean he was the GOAT.

          • Johnnywad

            Fox is not Lovie. We’ve already seen his “fuck you” switch. See Tim Jennings

        • Johnnywad

          Smitten only so far as the linebacker cupboard is bare. No fucking way Fangio has Shea on the pedestal next year.

    • BearDown100393

      Helmet to turf while whiffing takes its toll.

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      More inj news. I think they should just shut McPhee down. Why risk him? We all saw what happened to the HoneyBadger in a blow out, or Lach when Lovie wanted to reach 8-8.

      Bears OLB Pernell McPhee could have arthroscopic surgery on his troublesome left knee after the season.

      McPhee has missed several games and been limited in others over the second half of the season, but he plans to gut it out the last two weeks despite Chicago being out of the playoff picture. McPhee had a cleanup procedure on the knee before training camp began this summer, and he is likely headed for a similar procedure this offseason. McPhee has been stuck on five sacks since Week 8. – Roto

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    For those of you saying FF kills football, how many are gonna tune in to the Lions-Saints game tonight?
    I am, mostly cuz I wanna see how Hightower runs since he’s on my FF team.

    Betcha 50% of the viewers are probably FF invested, the other 40% die hard Lions/Saints fan(+ Gamblers), the other 10% a glutton for pain.

    • MB30SD

      you could have just asked me straight up

    • Johnnywad

      I may just catch the last ten minutes to watch the Lions Lion themselves.

      • MB30SD

        and they will

        • Johnnywad

          Tru dat.

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

        In some ways, I’m rooting for them (ugh). Gotta jump them in the draft!

        • Johnnywad

          Unless they hire another Matt Millen. Then it’s okay.

        • MB30SD

          hahaha, tolerico just conceded that’s the only reason people are watching.

    • Shady

      FF=Gambling

  • MB30SD

    that’s the best guy Nawlins got to sing the anthem!?!? Was that dude the second runner up in american idol? Wow, vanilla much?

  • MB30SD

    stafford is going to die on this field tonight

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      cross-fingers!

  • MB30SD

    tulloch is a thumper

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      I just sent you chewbawcca thumping princess leia

      • MB30SD

        : /

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    For those bellyaching about White…

    Falcons rookie DE Vic Beasley said he has played through a torn labrum for the entire season.

    Beasley said he also played through the injury in college. Beasley aggravated the shoulder Sunday against the Jaguars, but he did not sound worried about missing any time. The No. 8 overall pick has not
    missed a game in his rookie year, but he is stuck on three sacks with just two weeks remaining. – Roto

    • MB30SD

      he’s a badass. I think he breaks out next year. Him and the other dude for the jags… what was his name (dude went out for the year in camp… their 1st round pick)

      • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

        Maybe. But White could break out next season too, so those bitching that Beasley would’ve made a difference for us this season, well…just look at the juggernaught Falcons…

    • willbest

      At least Jeffery saw the field for a few snaps his rookie season before being shut down. That is all. Plus I like my rookies to get their rookie mistakes out of the way in a season we aren’t competing. I don’t need to see a fade when he should have posted resulting in an INT in a year where they should clear .500. Next year its going to be him and our star rookie ILB doing stupid shit

  • MB30SD

    BULLLSHIIIIIIIIT!

    how was that a fucking penalty? He hit him with his fucking side?!

  • MB30SD

    dude, that guy seriously needs to change his name.

    his parents were assholes.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    I liked Armstead coming out of the draft. Very athletic. It’s rare for a LT “project” to actually pan out (hello, Webb).

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    Boy, this Aints D is TURRIBLE.

    • Anonymous

      Very Bears 2014-like …

    • BearDown100393

      And their offense incredibly stupid.

  • Shady

    LOLoins.

  • MB30SD
    • Anonymous

      He was a total badass till the end. First ballot HoFer.

      (Btw, still think the Cheese miss his leadership.)

    • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

      Yeah, I saw that.
      My only question is, why didn’t he announce it earlier?
      Might have inspired his team to make the playoffs.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    Is there a reason the Aints didn’t hurry up and run a play before the 2min warning?

    Nice to know Payton and Brees are as incompetent as us.

  • SC Dave

    At least the fetid little cunt got suspended… too bad its just a slap on that limp wrist of his.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    Darius Slay is impressing me.
    That slant route is almost impossible to cover 1-on-1 for a CB. He looks pretty good.

    • Anonymous

      One of the few bright spots of DET’s season.

  • Anonymous

    Kinda feel about Sean Payton the way I do Mike McCarthy: competent coaches who, everyday, should thank their lucky stars future HoF QBs extended their job security and enhanced their coaching reputations.

    • http://www.dabearsbeat.com/ Johnathan Wood

      at the same time, Brees should thank his lucky stars for Payton, because his play has been noticeably worse when Payton isn’t around in his career. Same goes for Rodgers/McCarthy.

  • http://t.co/MsJnMxjrmd 4ever85! (AKA, ButchDeadLift)

    So, the Panthers were calling ODB gay, etc? Hmmm. The plot thickens.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/12/22/was-beckham-provoked-by-anti-gay-slurs/

  • beninnorcal

    Can someone here please remind me to stop going on the Bears FB page to engage with the vermin that dwell there?

    • Cormonster

      Don’t go to the Bears FB page. It’s nothing but a bunch of vermin dwelling over there.

      • MB30SD

        Well done corm!

        • Cormonster

          Thank you very much (in Elvis voice).

          • That Guy

            Corm, you’re going to auto forfeit that chess game in a few hours if you don’t move.

          • Cormonster

            Thanks for the reminder.

          • EnderWiggin

            She stole this move from Elvis…
            http://i.imgur.com/aBHjgcY.gif

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