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The Free Agency Notebook: Day 3

| March 13th, 2015

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BEARS NOTES

  • Patrick Finley does a nice job in the Sun-Times breaking down how Fox and Pace view their defensive roster’s transition from 4-3 front to 3-4. (I think this transition is the most over-discussed topic in the universe.)
  • Ron Parker and Mason Foster would be the types of signings I expected from this free agency period. Mid-range veteran talent that can play their positions at a minimal cost.
  • Why exactly would Ryan Pace need to be asked about “mending fences” with Jay Cutler? Has Ryan Pace ever said a negative word about Cutler? Pace evaluated the player, evaluated the possibility of replacing the player, listened to trade offers (if you think he didn’t, you’re nuts) and determined the best course of action for the 2015 Bears was Cutler at quarterback? How could anyone make the argument Cutler deserved more than that?
  • If the Saints are really shopping Kenny Stills – which makes no sense to me – how can the Bears not be interested? A wide receiving corps of Alshon Jeffery, Kenny Stills and Eddie Royal would make Brandon Marshall quite easy to forget.

AND SOME QUESTIONS…

(1) How did Terrance “Pot Roast” Knighton go from being called the best run-stopping NT in the sport by Bill Polian on Tuesday to signing a one-year, $4 million contract with Washington?

(2) Wasn’t Brian Orakpo a national star like two years ago?

(3) Am I the only one who thinks LeSean McCoy is a significantly better running back than DeMarco Murray and Ryan Matthews combined?

(4) Is Charles Clay really worth this borderline espionage from the Buffalo Bills?

(5) Does everybody now know the way to gain 100 Twitter followers and receiver 800 ReTweets is to make a Draft Day joke? Is it possible that’s the worst film ever made? It has to be close.

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  • Big Mike

    Regarding free agency signings. A nice excerpt on McCown. Posted here for all the fans that had McCown as the franchise QB
    “For years, McCown was a lower-echelon backup making something close to
    the veteran’s minimum. He caught on with Marc Trestman’s Bears and
    delivered one of the finest small-sample flukes you’ll ever see, with an
    unsustainably low interception rate driving a 224-pass sample that made
    him look like Peyton Manning.”
    http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-10-worst-free-agent-deals-so-far/

    • I’m guessing anybody who charted those 224 passes would also find an unsustainably high dropped INT rate. I can remember at least 3 passes that bounced right off a defenders’ chest, and 2 more that were intercepted but called back by penalties.

      • Big Mike

        Most accurately summed up, by this excerpt “finest small sample fluke”

        • plus the whole “almost all of those passes came against bottom 10 defenses in the NFL” thing. Whole lot of layers of fluke in that performance, with a large surrounding sample showing he’s a bad QB.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I submit that “small sample fluke” expalins Jay Cutler as well and that the Bears, and many Cutler defenders/wishful thinkers (myself included), were won over by his 2011 season when we thought Cutler had finally “Gotten It” and was ready to be the QB all of Chicago wanted him to be.

          • Big Mike

            Jay Cutler’s career trajectory up to that point followed by the 2011 season was a pretty large sample. McCowns small sample was zn outlier from the rest of his career

          • AlbertInTucson

            I still say that season was the red herring that gave the Bears the idea “Look what he can be. Look where he can lead us.”

          • Big Mike

            Not just the Bears. Almost everyone thought his arrow was up and ceiling was higher than it has turned out to be. But those opinions were far more grounded in reality and potential than McCown’s streak.

            FWIW I think Cutler had a bad hear last year. All of his flaws were magnified. The team needed leadership, it had none. It needed to score 27 PPG and play near flawless on offense to give the team a chance to win. I think Tom Brady would have struggled to get that team into the playoffs.

            I suspect Jay will have a bounce back year this year. At which point he should be traded.

      • willbest

        It cuts both ways though. Aaron Rodgers for example has 6-8 passes that should have been INTs, but also he ends up with 4-5 that were deflected off his own receiver

        • Yes, once we go down that route, all sorts of “ifs” like “what if the receiver ran the wrong route, or didn’t execute it like he should’ve?” (like that WR who got stoned at the LOS in the SB).

          • SC Dave

            In the end, the numbers are what they are.

      • Funny. A lot of Philly fans argue the same about Foles his first time out, but that he regressed to the norm last year before he went down, and that’s why Chip traded him.

      • Irish Sweetness

        You could say that about any player though. Could-have-been-interceptions are arbitrary and speculative. We can only count the interceptions. Only two QBs have thrown more interceptions over the last three years than Drew Brees, yet he is consistently referred to as elite. Nobody threw for more yards than Big Ben last year and he threw two consecutive six TD games – a feat nobody else has ever achieved – yet he is never called elite. It’s time to evaluate the current elite QBs.

    • Irish Sweetness

      I don’t think anyone saw him as a franchise QB – he could have been stop-gap for a year (unless FA turned up someone) to let us float Jay down the river. We’re now stuck with his contract. We would have tanked nicely for a couple of years under Fales/McCown/whoever … and Fitzy could well have been or QB right now. How many of us think Cutty should have gotten that contract?

  • beninnorcal

    Kirilenko’s wife is a fox, keep noticing her at the link at the bottom of the page here when I log in.

  • beninnorcal

    Also, 4-3 to 3-4 is kind of a big deal IMO, at least for our Bears here, who have never run 3-4.

    • it gets overanalyzed by median and fans. Bears ran some hybrid looks last year. The terminology changes a bit, but overall you still get 1-2 gaps you’re responsible for.

      • Yes, but have Bears’ fan ever witnessed 2 down linemen, or NO down linemen (“amoeba”) defense at Solider Field?
        Have they ever seen 3 safeties out there at once?
        When was the last time they’ve seen CB/S blitz on a consistent basis, or a true NT, or a 270 pound LB in a two-point stand?

        I think it’s a big deal, and sometimes Jeff (and I and others) forget that there are fans under 23 who perhaps have not witnessed any of these things (on the Bears) in their LIFE.

        • it might aesthetically look a little different, but practically it plays out very similarly.

  • beninnorcal

    And also, wasn’t McCoy simply going to cost too much for Philly?

    • they gave Murray a bigger contract than McCoy had. Not to mention handing out a $4M/yr contract to Ryan Mathews. So all in all, they’re spending significantly more on RBs now than they were before the McCoy trade.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I think there was more to it than that, especially since the talent gap of the trade that was made makes no sense. Perhaps there’s some disgruntled views between Chip and McCoy?

      • It was philosophical, IMO.
        Shady “dances” too much for Chip. His system is a one-cut slash-and-dash system. Both Tomlinson and Faulk have stated on numerous occasions that McCoy doesn’t always go for the easy 3-4 yarder, that he’s always trying for the 50yd TD (the Sanders-effect), and Chip doesn’t like that.

        Also, Chip likes rotating HBs. This makes sense – since he runs an up-tempo O, nothing like 3 fresh RBs late in the game as opposed to one fatigued Shady.

        Shaun O’hara (a former Olinemen) actually pointed how important a fresh RB in the 3rd/4th is, which is why I also wanted a true Forte complement.

  • beninnorcal

    And also, I’m on a trip to Atlanta and then Sarasota. Anyone ever been to Sarasota? I’m headed there today from Atl for a wedding, not sure what to expect. But also not worried, just making talks and words here.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      The weather is awesome down here right now (in the bay area), it’s a good time to come. Go to Longboat Key or Venice. You can also take a side trip to Ellenton and hit the HUGE outlet mall.

      • SC Dave

        I have to remember to look you up next winter. Odds are that I will be in the neighborhood around Xmas, and a tour guide for some craft brew joints in Tampa would be nice.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I have a grandmother who has a timeshare down there right on the Gulf. I loved it there. The grand kids took turns with her each spring or summer to go down there with her. Unfortunately it’s not as fun when you get older to go somewhere with her, if you get what I mean.

    • huntinbare

      Not sure what you might be into but the Ringling property with it’s art and architecture… or the Marie Selby gardens is a rare treat….if you want sun Lido beach ….there is always the touristed St.Armand’s crawl for drinking and purchasing..if you are motoring down take in the Dali museum as you tumble through St Pete….if you get lost and end up in Naples call me.

      • beninnorcal

        Turns out that the rehearsal dinner this evening is at the Ringling museum.

        • huntinbare

          Sweet

    • SC Dave

      Lido has a pretty nice beach, if you’re into that. I’ve been to a joint called Sharkey’s in Venice a number of times as my parent’s snow bird down there from Wisconsin. It’s on the beach and hence overpriced, but I go there anyway.

      Don’t have much to recommend regarding restaurants but I think you’d have better luck in Sarasota than Venice. Downtown Venice is cute, however, and a worthwhile stop.

      BTW, at some point they are allegedly going to extend the Legacy Trail to downtown Sarasota. That will make a nice little day ride when that gets done; if I remember correctly it will be about 17 miles one way, so the round trip is a decent ride. Easy and flat!

      http://www.sarasotalegacytrail.com/

      • beninnorcal

        Thanks for the info, Dave.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sarasota. White Sox Spring Training site for decades before they moved out tis way.

  • beninnorcal

    Speaking of also, I recently sold my baby which was an ’06 Pontiac GTO, essentially an Australian muscle car with a Corvette power plant and purchased a boat in it’s place, as I’m an avid fisherman. Thought’s?

    • GPLDAN

      My thought is that you will miss that car.

      • beninnorcal

        It was the one that got away.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Not sure what the weather is like in your area year-round, but a GTO only sees a good 6 months of use in my area because you’d screw it up in harsh late fall/winter/early spring months in NWI. I’m sure the fishing boat is the way to enjoy your free time at this point in your life (if you’re young, great too!). I’m sure you miss the car, but not filling it up with gas every other hour.

      • beninnorcal

        Actually in the SF-bay area we have pretty nice weather year- round. The problem was that I had been paying 300 bucks a month for parking that beast times about four years. Had to let her go.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Oh, ok….when your name implies “northern california”….that’s still a huge geographical reference. I’m from tiny northwest indiana

    • Sactowns#1

      You’ll get much more play with a boat than with a rather pedestrian looking mopar product.

      • beninnorcal

        Mopar? It’s GM, actually met my now wife driving it so still getting plenty of play from it. Pedestrian looking yes, but came with 400 hp and 400 ft/lbs, was a blast to drive.

  • Trac

    Cutler owes the fans an apology. How but dem apples? He he

    • beninnorcal

      Trac, you owe me an apology for failing to acknowledge my questions and observations below. And no, he doesn’t owe us an apology, we fans have mostly been quite dickish to the most productive an we ever had.

      • Shea durr

        U need some friends bro. U sound lonely as hell.

        • Waffle

          that was a weird comment. Away with yourself sir.

          • I thought he was making a pass at ben

          • beninnorcal

            I didn’t even read it that way, just thought he was being a dick, but on second look that shit is funny.

        • beninnorcal

          ..Says some guy, over the Internet to strangers. Riiiight..

      • Trac

        My favorite memories of Cutler will “always” be Yonny ‘s Cutty badger avatar. Cross my heart!

      • Irish Sweetness

        He produced a Superbowl and a bunch of divisional championships? He produced disappointment and a decline is what he did.

        • Johnnywad

          Angelo would have picked three bums. Orton blows. And neither of those items are on Cutler.

  • It was crazy how that tweet blew up. You’re a comedic genius! As for McCoy, no, you are not the only person that thinks that.

    • Irish Sweetness

      We can start with the 8 more TDs and 500 more yards Murray has. That’s a starting point.

  • Could not agree more on Kenny Stills. His cap hit for Bears would be identical to a 3rd or 4th round pick. I’d rather have a 22 year old with 2 years NFL experience and a near 1000 yard season under his belt than a mid-round rookie.

    • Scott W.

      This, every day.

    • Scharfinator

      He’s only 22? Hot damn. I am on the Stills-Wagon now.

      • he’ll be 23 in April, so 22 is a bit of a misnomer, but yeah. Same age as most of the rookies in the draft.

        Same is true of Marquess Wilson btw. Now counting on anything from him, but not counting him out yet either.

        • John Doe

          So if he is so young and so good, why are they trading him? That is a red flag.

          It makes no sense to trade him. But Pace sure knows whatever a trading team needs to know about him.

          • I agree, it makes no sense to trade him.

          • BearDown100393

            Jimmy Graham was let go. Is he no good?

          • John Doe

            Well,at least that trade made sense from a cap standpoint. Plus, he wasn’t the same after injury. There are certainly doubts he will be as prolific as he was in 2013.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Seemed to me that teams that he was way less effective when teams put a corner on him and he was definitely less effective after he dinged his shoulder. It’s already established that he is no blocker.

          • Graham was a $$ move. Stills would not be.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Didn’t Pace used to work there? He’d have the skinny on the real reason he’s being shopped.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yes, he did

    • John Doe

      It does not make much sense to me to draft for Kenny Stills. A team trading for him will only get 2 years before he looks for his first contract. Plus, there are so many WR choices in the mid rounds. Trading for Stills makes sense for a contender who is looking to win in the next 2 years. And Bears clearly are not going to be contenders this year or next.

      But the main reason I am against the trade is the loss of an important pick. Bears have many, many needs and trading the pick away denies the Bears to take advantage of a player who offers more value to them in any of the many positions of need. Trade away 3rd round pick and what if they miss out on Bryce Petty with that pick..

      • I am going to nick name you “Lore” – that is – Data’s twin-bro who has an emotion chip (though not quite as logical or methodical);

        He’s Data’s nemesis.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I’m still getting my head around the fact that Data died in ST: Nemesis, so that the grey-haired ‘Data’ you see in the last episode of SNG: ‘All good things ..’ isn’t actually Data, but the prototype ‘B-4’ they found on Korulan 3.

  • Not sure how cheap Parker and Foster will be. Supposedly Parker wants about $6M a year, and Foster wants about $6.75M.

    Of course, what they want and what they get are likely two different things. But that’s why the deals haven’t been signed yet.

    • John Doe

      Some team will pay Ron Parker what he wants..because there are so many teams deseperate for Safety help. My guess would be NYG, PHI or MIA.

      Bears best hope is Lovie releases Goldson soon and he signs a cheap deal with us.

      Foster is also asking way too much. I am glad Pace is not overpaying and willing to walk away.

  • Scott W.

    I’m trying to understand the allure of Twitter, and I can’t. Full disclosure: I have an account, people I’ve never heard of or have no connection to what I do in life have “followed” me, but I wound up kicking them all out the door.
    At one time, I had a lot of “followers” in the professional music industry. I have NO idea why they found me interesting. None.
    On the flip side, I followed Jeff and some others, Bears or news related. It was then I found out that people I thought were interesting tend to live on a mountain top, and would rather speak to the masses but not hear them. So it’s not “Social Media” so much as it is “Socialism Media”.
    “Follow me all ye who would be enlightened – hey – don’t touch the robe!”
    I started in Twitter because I stupidly assumed I’d be able to occasionally ask a question or respond to one with a variety of people.
    Turns out, most just want large herds of sheep, but no real people per se.
    My feelings aren’t hurt, I’m not griping about “the cool crowd”, etc.
    I’m just disappointed in how valueless it actually is, when the layers are peeled. It coulda been a contender!

    • Scharfinator

      Never have I been able to put my thoughts about Twitter into a single passage. You did pretty well with it! It has often struck me as something so meaningless.

      • Scott W.

        Thanks. It is, but it didn’t have to be. So many possibilities, buried under an avalanche of egos.

        • GPLDAN

          Twitter is a micro-metaphor for the promise of the internet dashed. A place where pure knowledge was shared and learning was fostered, turned into a cyber-war battleground and pompous declarations from the glitter-rati in two sentences each.

          The internet is now in the process of becoming a feudal barony. Many little internets all competing with each other.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I’m floored to see when I look around at classifieds and online job postings that companies have positions dedicated entirely to the twitter/social-media landscape. Not building websites or online PR….just twitter/facebook.

            And to top it off? They require a communication degree of some sorts. Whaaaat?….

          • BillW

            It’s really head scratching in analytics. Big data. There are people who gather up every tweet ever and scrub/search for meaning. For example, positive or negative views about a product.

            I keep my mouth shut about that at work because I’ve learned I can come across like an old fart (thanks to many kind people here) but as a statistician I say that’s foolish. You only have opinions from a biased sample, and one with such a large variance that the results are meaningless. That’s intuitive to me – but then people throw the whole Moneyball / Nate Silver aspect at me and I give up since they can’t see the difference.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We are lost as a people.

            We’re engineered to hate one another and consume, and be compliant to masters, when we are actually perfect and holy beings of light, born from the birth of a star, all connected together, and connected to every point in the universe, as proved through the proof of Bell’s theorem by Alain Aspect in 1981. The beautiful miracle of the universe – the one true consciousnesss – observing itself. As Bill used to say.

            Consciousness is pretty cool. But a lot of folk prefer Facebook and beer.

          • Youtube it, and I shall follow…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Yup. Social Media ‘consultants’. FML.

          • It never amazes me how long a “thread” takes to devolve.
            If anyone posts ANYTHING anywhere, and comments are allowed, it takes about 5 comments before the thread turns ugly, before some asshole brings up Obama being a muslim, or GW being an Saudi Arabian puppet, etc etc.

            Beam me up scotty!

          • burntorangenavyblue

            It’s not going so bad so far today! I’m enjoying the discussions we’ve been having. But you’re right, it’s crazy how quick things devolve

          • Irish Sweetness

            1. I thought the Bush Family were completely up the Saudi’s buttholes since forever? In fact that’s true. “And the truth shall make you an asshole…” sayeth the book of Isaiah?

            2. I’ve read some very noble, intellectual comments related to he phenomenon of twitter here. Football is not intellectual in the slightest, ergo the threads ‘evolve’ not ‘devolve’ when non-football subjects (not involving tits or petrol) are broached, n’est pas?

            Anyway, that was an interesting point, GP. Twitter is a useful thing for a quick update of info – although nothing a website couldn’t do before – that was hijacked by the shallowness of Self. Similarly, Zuckerberg was probably thinking ‘Fuck Book’, when the ego thing took over, and we went from fear of Big Brother to ‘post all my shit and give up ownership of it as quickly and as often I can’.

          • Cormonster

            I’ve been following that Madison police shooting, and almost all the comments are toxic from every angle, with a few kumbaya comments mixed in. It doesn’t seem to matter the site. Same with any you tube thread on a song. If there’s more than fifty comments, sure as hell there will be a couple nasty ones, including some type of racist comment.

        • BillW

          I recall a story from Twitter’s early days where Shaq (I think – or maybe another NBA star) was in a restaurant in a smallish town and Tweeted he was there. A bunch of fans came over and he had a great time with them. He thought it was cool he could reach out to his fans that way. And he was right. But then stars began to believe the whole world wanted to know what they had for breakfast (and unfortunately there were actually people who DID want to know) and the competition aspect of it was on.

          But Facebook can be the same (I don’t have a Facebook account either). I’m sure we all know people who seem to be desperately seeking “likes” on things they post.

          (Boy, I sure hope I get a lot of upvotes on this post…)

          • burntorangenavyblue

            You get an upvote! And you get an upvote! And you get an upvote! “AHHHH!”

          • That was an ironic upvote from me, for the record.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I created a facebook account to get in touch with my old football coach. He was the Center on the Dublin Celts, and gave up his sundays to coach a bunch of us, week in week out, in pissy weather for years. On his own. So I wanted to thank him for that. Funnily enough he’s been living in Chicago the last 20 years.

            Then I realized you need an account to do almost anything on the net now so I only use it for logging in to things.

            I created a twitter account solely to contact Jim McMahon.

            I have both accounts because of football.

        • SC Dave

          Isn’t that the case with much discourse, regardless of venue?

    • BearDown100393

      Twitter embraces and exposures the degrees of social stupidity preferred mostly by the pretty ones.

      • BillW

        So you’re saying Scott is not one of the pretty ones?? Just curious how you know that. (joking – it’s Friday.)

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I think he’s pretty……pretty ugly.

          I’ll let myself out, hehe

      • Irish Sweetness

        You could fit that in a tweet

        • burntorangenavyblue

          It’s too logical

    • BillW

      “Follow me all ye who would be enlightened – hey – don’t touch the robe!”

      Scott – that is absolutely the most concise, accurate, brilliant summation of the impression I get of (most) Twitter users. (I make exception for those who ONLY Tweet for business purposes like Biggsy – leaving personal musings out of it.

      Yes Jeff, unfortunately you come across often as Scott describes. Sorry. You probably are unaware of that.

      Your description of Twitter is so good Scott that if I had a Twitter account I’d probably follow you.

      Wait…

      • Scott W.

        LMAO

      • Irish Sweetness

        See?

    • You just need to find the right people to follow and interact with. I love Twitter and use it a lot.

      Definitely drawbacks, but if you find the right people, it’s a great forum for communication

      • BillW

        I would suspect you are more how I described Biggsy in your Twitter use – that is, you keep your personal musings to yourself actual friends/family. That’s how is SHOULD be used.

        • I don’t use my real name on the internet, this is a pseudonym. So I talk very little about my own life. It’s pretty much all sports, mostly football, but not entirely.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Now, see? I thought your name was that. The internet is just levels of anonymity and fakery, culminating in the TOR network and dark web.

            I was born to Mr and Mrs. Sweetness by the way, and that is my real first name.

        • Data don’t use contractions…I mean, does not.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Is your name really 85Bears4eva(akaButchDeadlift) or did you just make that up?

          • It’s on my birth certificate.

        • Irish Sweetness

          This is the key thing about Twitter. People posting their every thought. There are very few people on the planet who have minds that interesting. I would have followed Richard Feynman for example, but there’s nobody else I can think of that’s not trying to sell me something.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Talking to people is the best one. Y’know .. human beings … beside you, around you. Not hidden away where 75% of the actual communication is removed, and virtually useless at that point.

    • I would argue that Twitterverse mirrors capitalistic ego-centric, individualistic, arrogant values:

      “Socialism never took root in America because the
      poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily
      embarrassed millionaires.” – Steinbeck.

      Twits are all temporarily embarrassed Mark Cubans and Jim Irsays…

      But as always, it is what you make of it.

      I only follow ppl I like or trust and haven’t even been on there since perhaps October.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Or the Andy Warhol idea of “In the future, everyone will be world-famous for 15 minutes.”
        The age-old attraction of celebrity, or possibility of it, that so empowers reality TV ‘celebs’ who eventually become famous for being ‘famous’. If one was to scan an actual history of anyone’s tweets it adds up to the cyber-poop of the ego-centric, unless you’re the Dalai Lama. It feeds into narcissism and vanity, the idea that the 150 characters I produce deserves to be heard by the world. It’s cyber make-up.

    • NewBearInTown

      I signed up for twitter a few years ago specifically to be able to follow NFL free agency. Its just so much more real time than traditional news, so its good for that. But that’s about all I use it for. I get irritated when my football follows are all watching college basketball and I get flooded with comments about one of the games.

      • Scott W.

        Hear you on the news front. I tried it that way a while, but then ran into the same problem you cited. Too much crap about crap I didn’t give a crap about.

    • Cormonster

      Kim Kardashian has over 30 million followers on twitter.

      • Scott W.

        That is a serious amount of sheep shit.

        • Cormonster

          Justin Bieber and Katy Perry have double that amount. That’s like 1 in 5 Americans. I’m sure many are from around the world though. What the hell are these people “following”? I just don’t get it. It must be a shit ton of teenagers.

          • Irish Sweetness

            One of my kids was watching a beeberson video he’d just released, there was like 600 million hits on it already.

      • Irish Sweetness

        A planet of sheep.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I’m just glad everyone is loving the Kenny Stills idea now, yesterday quite a few of the faithful were poo pooing the idea, If he didn’t miss a game last year, would’ve had a 1000 yards. He’s accomplished more in the league than Marquess Wilson and they’re the same age. I’m giving up that 4th rounder all day, because we would’ve had to draft a WR anyway.

    • John Doe

      There must be something else. Why would Sean Peyton trade him away if he is so good? It does not add up and gives me the pause. They know something that other teams don’t. But since we have Pace, I am sure he knows.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        To be honest, it does make me bat an eyelash. However, I believe they are trying to collect draft picks to rebuild the defense. Trying to forge a new identity based on defense and a HOF QB not doing to much so that they can extend his NFL career by a season or two. They re-upped Mark Ingram which is also very un-Saints like. I believe they are just making a paradigm shift. That and Stills and Cooks kinda duplicate each other and Cooks is under cost control for 4 more seasons whereas Stills has only 2 years of cost control.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Sucks to only have one eyelash…I keed I keed!

          The Bears already gave up a draft pick with the Marshall trade, so I don’t think it’s a good idea to give up another at this time.

          • BillW

            He has as many eyelashes as we all do, but he has the rare talent where he can bat them one at a time. Freaky.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That was going to be my retort.

          • SC Dave

            You should see the Rockettes-style thing he can do with them!

          • John Doe

            Plus, there is a very good chance that a WR will be their best option at #7.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            You think the Bears would do that at #7? Draft a WR?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Not if they believe Beasley/Fowler are better.

          • John Doe

            Both will likely be gone.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Before Gregory? No way. Looking at White’s and Cooper’s tapes, neither looks like the second coming of a messianic receiver. Got to be OLB or Scherff. If they pick the fat bastard or Collins, I won’t moan.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I would agree except that he’s a very young player (23 when the season starts) on the upswing that can complement Alshon and still has 2 years of cost control. Kaseem Greene and Evan Rodriguez were 4th rounders. For every Richard Sherman/Navarro Bowman in the middle rounds there’s a Michael Okwo/Brandon Hardin. I would rather take the guy who has actually done something in the league who still has upside.

          • Yes, but we can’t live in fear that this new GM/HC combo can’t strike gold in the mid-rounds.
            I know – as Bears’ fans – we’re almost conditioned to give draft picks away cuz it seems the GMs just flush them down the toilet, but we gotta give the new regime a chance.

      • Irish Sweetness

        This. A 22 year old WR being shopped. Compartment syndrome. He’s on drugs. Or he raped somebody. Or there’s a murder case gonna be brought.

        NTTAWWT.

        This is the NFL.

        Bill Burr does a great job of defending the NFL. He watches a lot of football and does podcasts on football. The man LOVES football.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I’m cool with that as long as we’re not getting a journeyman of a player. If he is that young, then it should be with the emphasis that the Bears will retain him and have him built into the future of the team.

      Otherwise, save the draft pick and find someone that’s a diamond in the rough like Alshon was and continue on that path.

    • I’m poo-pooing and booing it.
      WR is a deep class.

      We gotta take calculated risks at some positions in a cap era (just like the Pats allowing their two starting CBs to leave. They’re trusting their staff to secure other cheaper options).

      I’m OK with Alshon/Wilson/Royal (Bellamy? Mariani?) + cheap WR on 4 yr rookie deal.

      ESP if we do indeed go double TE heavy.

  • willbest

    “(I think this transition is the most
    over-discussed topic in the universe.)”

    I missed your post demanding people to stop talking about it the way you did for Cutler. So me thinks this is a bit of an exaggeration

  • BillW

    ” Wasn’t Brian Orakpo a national star like two years ago?”

    No – unless you call being in caveman commercials a national star. You know – he was such a star that they had to waste expensive seconds telling people who he was.

    (“You’re All-Pro linebacker Brian Orakpo…”) Every time I heard that I wanted him to say “I am??”)

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      I remember that. It actually leads to a different sidebar for me. Insurance company commercial wars are heating up. Jake from State Farm is still the leader in the clubhouse. Makes me think of how much money they have to be raking in to be able to dedicate marketing spend on National spots like that compared to 15 years ago. That or competition has become so intense that they need to actually allocate unprecedented marketing spend. Would be an interesting topic for a DBA thesis.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        The dancing guido is giving Jake a run for his money….but Jake is wearing khakis, so I doubt he’ll ever lose out.

        • BillW

          I do appreciate what Geico tries to do, even though it often falls flat. My favorite lately is the “words really CAN hurt you” one.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            It’s too bad Flo is reincarnated b/c I can’t stand her….killing her does not work

          • Flo is the Jared of this generation. Humans as corporate mascots.
            Just another step to corporations trying to become human. Hal….

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I like the literal Genie, but GEICO usually sucks. Why Progressive stays with Flo is beyond me. That esurance candy crush commercial was good. Allstate Mayhem was good. Farmers gets to the point, but not a lot of comedy.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Remember in the early recent revamp for Farmer’s that the one commercial they made at their “training ground” for agents that an actor/agent is actually seen tumbling down the roof? I believe that the person falling was an accident and they kept it rolling and it just worked out perfect that way

          • AlbertInTucson

            There wasn’t a “MAYHEM” I didn’t enjoy. My favorite was “I’m A Cheap Bungy Cord”

      • burntorangenavyblue

        3 insurance company commercials just played in a row on tv, haha

        • AlbertInTucson

          Insurance companies now spend more on ads than the beer companies.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I’m in the wrong damn business

  • John Doe

    Matt Miller’s latest mock draft post major moves in free agency makes sense. He rightly concludes that Jets will pass on Mariota and go with Fitzpatrick/Smith tandem. He has them picking Vic Beasley at #6. So Williams, Gregory, Fowler, Beasley will likely be gone when Bears are on clock.

    That will be the worst scenario for Bears. Their choices will come down to the following and I don’t find them particularly good. Hope Browns move up and give us their #12 and something more.

    Shane Ray – another undersized Shea type guy who relies on speed

    Amari Cooper – too much like Jeffery

    Brandon Scherff – will be RT at best and most draftniks say he is a guard in NFL. Plus Pace come from Saints and they never picked OL in early rounds

    Mariota – He will be there and the chatter is Bears are doing research on him. Dowell Loggains was at his pro day yesterday in Oregon.

    Matt Miller @nfldraftscout · 3h3 hours ago
    NEW mock draft, Oregon pro day thoughts and so much more in this week’s Scouting Notebook http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2393610-nfl-draft-2015-matt-millers-free-agency-week-1-

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      If we are absolutely stuck then I’m thinking either Kevin White, Andrus Peat or Danny Shelton.

      • John Doe

        Kevin White is likely the first WR off the board to OAK at #4. He has rare size and speed combo. Much faster than Cooper.

        But if he is there at #7, then he is worth the pick. Danny Shelton will be good in #12-19 range.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Just saw White at his pro-day, he looks like our next step. He’s built.

          But I’d rather have the beastly defense, especially with Mr. Don’t Care under center.

    • willbest

      I can’t imagine the Bears passing on Mariota unless they plan on going with Jay Cutler in 2016. Unless they think they know who the next Russell Wilson is and can have him in the 3rd.

      • John Doe

        Yes, I too suspect that is where things are headed. Their hand was kinda forced on Cutler but they want to have a genuine replacement ready for 2016..or even mid-late season if things do not go well with Cutler. They might feel they can cut the chord with Cutler more easily with Mariota already in the fold.

      • i could imagine the bears passing on mariota is they don’t think he’s worth the 7th overall pick.

        • NewBearInTown

          Its hard to predict. Last year we saw a bunch of QBs slide way lower than anyone expected. That could be the new normal or just a market correction.

        • John Doe

          Let’s see how disciplined Pace stays to BPA vs. need.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Who do we have to look forward to for QB prospect for 2016? I can’t think of anyone at the top of my head if we pass on Mariota?

        • John Doe

          Connor Cook and USC QB will be at the top of 2016 QB class.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Trade down for sure then if a lot of people are unsure of Mariota. I’m pretty sure there will be several teams trying to jump up in the draft order for a bone or two

          • Yes, but we’ll probably selecting higher than #7, most likely out of the top #10, in which case we would have to forfeit most of our draft future to move up and draft a top QB

        • willbest

          You also have to be drafting high enough to get a top prospect in 2016. There is no reason the Bears can’t win 6 games next year (I am predicting 8 atm) and take themselves out of any chance at the best in 2016.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Maybe stocking up on draft picks could help them for 2016 to be able to jump up for that top prospect?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Hopefully this isn’t what the Saints are trying to do, finding an heir apparent for Brees?

          • willbest

            The only reason the Rams even considered fleecing the Redskins is they already had a QB. No QB needy team is going to trade their pick. And the top 5 drafters are almost always teams that need QBs.

          • Would you give up a 2nd this year for a 5th and a 1st next year?

          • willbest

            I suppose that depends on who I am trading with. The Patriots? F that. The Browns? sure

          • That would probably be what we would receive.
            I wouldn’t be opposed to it. Two 1sts is the START of moving up to a top 3 pick.

          • John Doe

            And that is why getting rid of Cutler and starting over in 2015 needed to be done.
            Having no Cutler replacement would have been just fine, IMO. Play Clausen for a year finish 2-14 and get your next franchise QB in the draft.

            Keeping Cutler will hurt in another way. He will be good in a few games and suck in some games. Bears again will be neither here nor there and will be stuck in the middle.

          • willbest

            We play the Bucs, Skins, oaklan, a suh-less kittens twice and the 49ners. Even with Clausen you are looking at 4 wins.

          • Irish Sweetness

            This. what’s the rush – and the repeated fantasy wank – of drafting a franchise QB? Build a team first. A killer defense, a line that can runblock … and let the rest take care of itself.

            My four year plan.

            Tank. Tank. Playoffs. Superbowl.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Haha, you can bet your ass Fox will never coach this team to tank.

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s built in with the crappy roster. You’re not really tanking, just playing to your level.

      • BerwynBomber

        My thought too. I think if Mariota falls to seven Pace will take him. I’m for it: even if it has bust potential.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Yikes

      • Irish Sweetness

        Anyone seen this Sean Mannion kid?

    • FourFeathers

      Mariota is too much of a wildcard for Pace to dare take him at #7. That is unless he and his scouting department are absolutely sold on his development potential AND they see a future franchise-level QB. I don’t see it. Plenty of “safe” options for the Bears to go with at #7. I could definitely see Scherff, but again it comes down to the scouting assessment and if the Bears think he can play a hi-grade RT and not have to move to OG.

    • Amari Cooper is almost the polar opposite of Alshon.
      Cooper gets seperation.
      Cooper isn’t known as a “high-point” jump ball receiver.
      Cooper is a precise route runner, probably already a more advanced route runner than Alshon.
      Cooper is an excellent after the catch wideout

      Cooper is closer to ODB than to Alshon.

      He’s pretty fast 4.42 too, but not necessarily a deep threat type (a la Wallace when he came out).

      • Irish Sweetness

        The butch report!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Isn’t Alshon the #1 now?….he replaces Marshall. Confused why the guy mentions that the Bears may look into finding a Marshal replacement…besides we need either a very damn good defender as the #7 pick, or trade down and get several good players to fill several holes. I just don’t see getting a WR at #7 will help stabilize the team

      • willbest

        Modern day NFL offense require that you have 2 of the following on offense:
        1) A QB that can do something with his legs
        2) A freak at RB
        3) An impenetrable O-line
        4) Two pass catchers that merit the double team.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I understand that…just the wording that the guy in the article saying that Bears may find a WR to “replace” Marshal. It should read that they’re looking to complement him because I do no see anyone that the Bears pick up that would make me go “Yeah, he’s our #1!” over Alshon

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            Gimme an Edelman guy to go with Jeffery.

    • Ososfan

      Alvin “Bud” Dupree looks like a beast in the making

  • willbest

    I know everybody here will be happy to know that Jay Cutler earned a performance bonus of $6,808.79 on top of the 22.5 million.

    Other head scratchers
    Jennings – 27,500
    Allen – 42,600
    Briggs – 10,400
    McClellin – 29,300

    and on the other side of the WTF column
    Forte – 16,000

    • it’s based on PT. They have a set pool (about $3.6M) to divvy up among the team, so it’s based on how much you played and what your salary was.
      Has nothing to do with performance, just snap counts. So if you played a lot on a low salary, you get a lot of extra $$.

      • willbest

        I understand that. And I am all for giving the rookie and min league vets a bonus pool, but it seems nonsensical that the big contract guys, the ones who are paid to start, are a part of that.

    • NewBearInTown

      Fans see performance bonuses as a way to reward good player, but the salary cap dynamics actually make that very difficult to work.
      For example, if you have a team with an open quarterback competition with three guys you might want to offer each QB $1M with a $500K per game performance bonus. That way the starter makes $9M for the season. But under that system, the total cap hit would be $27M for all three QBs. The bonuses count jointly against the cap and I don’t think there is a way to factor the “offset” in.
      What teams use performance bonuses for is give themselves a little extra cash if a player is either not playing or underperforming. So in an expensive scenario, you have a QB with a $100K per game performance bonus. If he misses more than 4 games, you’ve got enough cap space to sign a veteran backup. In an inexpensive scenario (like JWood describes), you have small money bonuses that don’t effect Forte’s deal much, but would make a difference to backups on minimum deals if they earned them instead.

    • BerwynBomber

      So Cutty banked almost $30M for his 2014 stink bomb. Good to know. Thanks PE.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        It is six thousand eight hundred eight dollars and seventy nine cents. not 6 million.

        • BerwynBomber

          Ah, sorry. Was just doing AR business calculations listed in the thousands.
          That’s a relief.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Maybe PE got a cut of that, a dirty, behind bathroom stall-doors deal. Conspiracy theories abound!

        • BerwynBomber

          Yeah, I misread it. 6K hardly seems worth reporting.

          • willbest

            I just found it humorous that he got any bonus at all.

    • So roughly, we’re paying Cutty $1M/turnover.
      I think Bortles turned it over at a cheaper rate.

  • John Doe

    Rand Getlin @Rand_Getlin · 10m10 minutes ago
    Source: The #Saints are in the process of trading WR Kenny Stills to the Miami #Dolphins.

    • willbest

      Pace looks more like a rat fleeing a sinking ship than a wunderkind. It seems to me the reason he took the Bears GM job after turning down interviews last year is because he knew the Saints were going to blow the whole thing up this year and he could kiss any chance at getting a GM job goodbye after that.

      • What? Didn’t you read Jeff’s million tweets about the Bears being the GM promised-land? Mana from football heaven…

        • willbest

          Well there are only 32 GM jobs, and they come with 7 figure salaries, so they are all desirable. No doubt some billionaires are better to work for than others, but I do think his point regarding the state of the organization has plenty of merit. These jobs don’t open up typically unless something bad happen.

          I suspect the McCaskeys are not the easiest owners to deal with, though I doubt they are the most difficult either.

          • GPLDAN

            Ernie said Ryan was good peoplez.

  • John Doe

    Omar Kelly @OmarKelly · 11m11 minutes ago
    So #Dolphins have reportedly unloaded Dannell Ellerbe & the $3M he’s owed for Stills. But it cost them a third rounder. No confirmation yet.

    • Fins are going all in. Perhaps seeing Pats lift up that Lombardi stoked a fire in their asses.
      Also, I suspect they’re insuring themselves in case Wallace doesn’t restructure.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Tannehill is on the up and up, so they’re being smart about giving him weapons. Dolphins are usually the team that surprises other teams when they face each other and the Fins know that they can stop Brady and they’ll surely do it more so with Suh on the team.

        Imagine the shitstorm we’ll see when Suh is facing Brady and the controversies that will happen w/ ref calls trying to protect Brady. It’ll be interesting to watch.

        • It’s an interesting phenomenon, and I see this being a common trend…namely, contending teams going “all-in” before their stud QBs on rookie contracts hit that 2nd contract.
          Seahawks did it
          Colts are doing it
          Now, Fins.

          If the Bills had a young franchise QB, I’d suspect they’d do it, but it seems like they’re going the journeymen + stud D route, which might be another blue-print some teams go all-in on – go all out before Elite D regresses to the norm (like we did)

  • GPLDAN

    (5) Does everybody now know the way to gain 100 Twitter followers and receiver 800 ReTweets is to make a Draft Day joke? Is it possible that’s the worst film ever made? It has to be close.

    It’s the worst movie about Pro Football ever made.

    The best are Jerry McQuire, North Dallas Forty and Any Given Sunday.

    This is down there with Invincible starring Marky Mark and Greg Kinnear starring as Dick Vermeil. Nice white belt, Greg! What a prop! You nailed it!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I would like to take a moment and say to all of my fellow bloggers who have watched “Draft Day”:

      I thank you for your service. Because of you, I know that I, as well as others who may have not seen it, will not lose 2 hours of our life and important brain cells. I would gladly give you a 6-pack if I could to help drown out your sorrow and misery that is the pile of crap that movie supposedly is.

      • Yes, but now I WANT to watch it to see how bad it is.
        Can it be worse than Water World?
        Hmmmm

        • burntorangenavyblue

          My friends and I will sit and watch those awful b-grade movies just to have a beer and laugh. Making silly commentaries. Like MysterScience Theater 3000. Loved that show!

          • That’s where I (and a few other OGs) got our (handles).
            I think Irish, Doc, Artoo, GP and I forget who else adopted these names as a joke.
            I just happened to keep it.
            “SmokeMan Beef” was a close 2nd

          • Irish Sweetness

            I tried to get “A.K.A Bolt Van Der Huge” back, but Disqus limits you to 30 characters.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Dude, I know you did not just say Jerry Maguire.

      Theirs a great religious-funded teen one called facing the Giants.
      We are Marshall was good too, but north Dallas is my favorite. That and Any Given are the most realistic.

    • AlbertInTucson

      NORTH DALLAS FORTY.

      Undisputed #1.

      Can’t endorse ANY GIVEN SUNDAY and, sorry, GP, I don’t consider JERRY MAGUIRE a football movie.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Some news:

    Trent Richardson files grievance against Colts for his final contract money; what a goon and like some of you say, a double-first round bust?

    Vikings and AP do not meet for discussions; With Cowboys apparently not pursuing him, who will take him? Whether it’d be from a trade or being cut…any thoughts?

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Saw somewhere that the Bucs were interested.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Should I be surprised about that? Haha

    • willbest

      After he gets cut he will have plenty of 8-10mil/yr offer. But nobody is paying 15/year and draft picks.

    • I am VERY surprised Jerra doesn’t go after AP.
      AP is a Texas boy, and has expressed interest in playing for the Cowboys before he retires.
      Cowboys have a hole at HB, and AP would be a marketing gold mine.

      Also, I imagine that behind that Oline and commitment to run, AP would take a serious run at Dickerson’s record.

      Possible team? Surprise, the Pats!

      • BerwynBomber

        Jerra got a Razorback instead in McFadden.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I think McFadden could actually do some damage with Dallas behind those road graders on their O-Line IF, of course, he can stay on the field.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I don’t know. I’d say skinning your 4 year-old with a stick doesn’t sell a lot of jerseys. Nobody who saw that photograph is giving him a job or the time of day. I wouldn’t. I’d probably just headbutt the fucker.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          There’s pictures of it out there? Whaaat?

          • Johnnywad

            Yep. Google it if you want to see it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Surprisingly brutal. They’re not welts or bruises. It’s like he went at him for 10 minutes in a prison cell.

        • They did a poll, and it didn’t bother folks from Texas all that much, or from the South in general.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah, I remember seeing or hearing about that poll. Many wanted him to play for the Cowboys.

          • willbest

            I honestly believe he didn’t know it was wrong. So as long as he is seeing a therapist about breaking the cycle of violence, I don’t have an issue with him playing again.

            Plus think about it this way. How is it beneficial to the child for his dad to be
            1) publicly decimated without chance of redemption
            2) No longer pulling down millions of dollars a year to support you and your dozen other half siblings.

          • I can see that. I know ppl dislike admitting it because some don’t like the idea of “moral relativism” – they like to believe that humans are born with some concrete compass of right and wrong, but experience tells us other wise.
            My best bud had a son, and when he was growing up, my best bud would tell his son, “Hey, don’t cry. Don’t be a little fag” in front of everyone. His older brother, who already had 2 sons took him aside and told him, “Hey, man, you can’t be telling him that. You’re gonna fuck him up mentally.”
            And my best bud, to his credit, stopped yelling at him like that.

            I think the default is ,”It worked for me, and I turned out fine” – naturally, ignorant of how fucked up we all truly are. And I think it’s a delusion that parents “improve” their children incrementally through the generations. It’s like a busted damn. You may fix one hole, but then another springs. It’s the human condition. And on that note, I’ll end it with this by Larkin

            “This Be the Verse”

            They fuck you up, your mum and dad.
            They may not mean to, but they do.
            They fill you with the faults they had
            And add some extra, just for you.

            But they were fucked up in their turn
            By fools in old-style hats and coats,
            Who half the time were soppy-stern
            And half at one another’s throats.

            Man hands on misery to man.
            It deepens like a coastal shelf.
            Get out as early as you can,
            And don’t have any kids yourself. –

          • Johnnywad

            I know you and I will never agree on this one Will. For my part, any kid that’s getting his legs ripped open and his balls slashed by a stick his dad is swinging would be far better off with a poor family that loves him than with his dad and his millions. Most rich kids with a complete lack of parenting are screwed up and depressed as it is.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Did you see the photos?

          • willbest

            Yes, and I believe AP suffered very similar injuries as a child.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Got to love Texas.

        • Johnnywad

          Yeah, I’ve always said “If you’re whipping the shit out of your kid, and he starts bleeding all over the place, you might want to back it off just a fuzz.”. But hey, to each his own.

        • Big Mike

          I’d say this happens much more often than we would like to imagine. What’s the penalty for something like this, when or can AP redeem himself? Big questions. thing that turns me off is, there is no way to be sure AP understands how terribly wrong that approach to child rearing is. It’s barbaric, dark ages, fucked up religious culture shit.

  • GPLDAN
  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Bad fit for Stills on the Dolphins. While Tannehill is improving, he’s deep ball is horrid. I had Mike Wallace in fantasy last year and had to cringe when Tannehill overthrew him (how that’s possible, I’ll never understand) on a deep ball at least once a game. In any event Miami slightly overpaid. Ellerbe and a 3rd? As one of you put it this looks like it’s Mike Wallace insurance.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Hey 85Bears4Ever…..just wanted to ask you if you were aware of the news surrounding your avatar picture? About the kid that started that viral meme?

    • Yeah, I think the kid killed himself, right?
      Man, that sucks. So young. Don’t know the details though – of why or anything like that.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah, he did…sad. I hope it wasn’t the fact that his viral picture led to his decision because that cannot be easy to deal with. Just wanted to make sure just so that you didn’t realize until too late that your avatar may or may not be in good taste according to your beliefs.

        • Nah, I had this avi for a while now. Most probably don’t even know where it originated (I didn’t, until that story came out).
          Obviously, the dude had a sense of humor – so I’m sure he wouldn’t mind Cutty-kitty.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah, it’s not distasteful for sure. Just wanted to make sure that you didn’t have a “Oh, shit..I’m such an ass” moment if that was something that would bug ya

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Forte has been hell of a Bear. But I’d make a phone call about Mark Ingram. Just seems kind of RB John Fox would love. And 4 years younger.”

    Ingram just signed a new deal with the Saints a week or so ago. So are you proposing draft picks?

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Rather just draft one and have 4 years on the cheap.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Which should always be the way. ‘Finding Walter’ ain’t gonna happen.

        • MikeBrownhadaPosse

          Neither is “Finding Matty”…not as difficult, but certainly not a given either.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I dunno about this….

      If he signed a new deal with Saints last week, he sounds like he’s staying with the team…he’s one of NO’s franchise player.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, I wondered if Blogfather was aware of that. I assume NO would only be interested in picks.

    • willbest

      Yes well Mickey Loomis is clearly suffering from dementia or a concussion.

  • GPLDAN

    He walks like a woman but blocks like man. Ooooo-la. O-o-o-o-oooola

    http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports/football/bears/chi-bears-performance-based-pay-20150313-story.html

    • And scrolling waaaaaay to the bottom 7.

      Jay Cutler $6,808 (doooont caaaaareee)

      Jay Feely $5,474 (back-up kicker)

      Micheal Spurlock $5,461 (who?)

      Charles Tillman $5,160 (inj)

      Robbie Gould $4,700 (inj)

      Taylor Boggs $3,376 (back-up long snapper)

      Tony Fiammetta $1,767 (inj-waived)

      • GPLDAN

        Kristin spent $6800 on some Indonesian Chai Latte tea last week.

        • John Doe

          Well, she is into healthy stuff…

          Nevermind smoking and not vaccinating..

        • Irish Sweetness

          But it was on sale!

  • BerwynBomber
    • burntorangenavyblue

      I know Fairley has been up and down, but that’s quite a formidable D-line the Rams have.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, they’re beastly. Then again, defense hasn’t been the Rams’ problem the last few years.

  • Surprised no one posted this (or I missed it). Former Lion dishes the real-yo!

    “You see clips of Peyton Manning, however limited they are, you see him drilling his pocket presence, his footwork and different things like that,” Jackson said. “The time period I was out there [in Detroit], I didn’t see any consistent drills like that on a daily basis where he’s working on the drops and evading the rush and different things like that. . . . In my opinion, when you’re making that kind of money and you’re the face of the franchise, you put in work. And I don’t think that I was the only one to question that. When you see a guy like Calvin and Ndamukong working hard on a daily basis, doing extra stuff, and you don’t really see that from the quarterback, it’s like how can you be mad with the results? Because it’s not a high demand they’re placing on [Stafford] for improvement.” – PFT

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/10/ex-lion-says-front-office-is-arrogant-stafford-doesnt-work-hard/

    • GPLDAN

      Linky dink?

      • Should be at the bottom. Many Lion’s fans from the comments section actually agree. For example.

        “Stafford is just Jay Cutler with better body language.”

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Don’t see a link…hmm, gnome strikes again?

          • Does it appear now?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Sadly, no. I even tried highlighting the page to make sure it isn’t invisible on the white background.

          • odd. I’ll try again.

            http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/10/ex-lion-says-front-office-is-arrogant-stafford-doesnt-work-hard/

            If not, just go to ProFootballTalk and type in “Matthew Stafford” or
            “Ex-Lion says front office is arrogant, Stafford doesn’t work hard”

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Worked!

          • burntorangenavyblue

            This so much! This is from a commentator:

            harveyredman says:Mar 10, 2015 9:35 AM

            The NFL Brass and Media have decided the QB is the ONLY position that matters. Every other position is easily replaceable. Heck, I remember after Demarco Murray scored an awesome touchdown last year, they just showed Tony Romo walking off the field and kept the camera on him. I mean, wouldn’t you want highlight the guy who actually scored?

  • Sactowns#1

    Any word on Peanut?

    • John Doe

      My guess is they will sign him for that 1 day contract and he will retire during the first home game of 2015.

      There are 32 teams in the NFL. No team has a cornerback older than 31 on their roster. Safety, yes. CB no. Tillman is 34.

      • BerwynBomber

        Barb to tell us that Peanut can be the next Woodson in … 4 … 3 … 2 …

        • He def has lost a step, but Barber played till what, 36?
          Peanuts game was never about speed. Plus, stopping CJ twice a year is almost worth vet min or close to it.
          Just not sure if he’s now inj prone.
          Tricep torn, not once, but TWICE…is that anomalous?
          Reminds me of that HB who broke a collarbone in back to back seasons (and not the same one).

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I was just razzing Barb. I see the logic in his argument, but I don’t know if Peanut is quite the natural athlete that Woodson is. (Or as durable.)
            Good point about Barber too, but yeah, the two triceps tears in two years thing is bordering on chronic, especially at his age.
            Would be cool if Peanut stayed on in a coaching capacity.
            I’m okay going into the season with a Fuller/Jennings tandem, though who is the nickel remains to be seen.

          • John Doe

            He stopped CJ good until 2012. CJ had his way with him in 2013. And I don’t see him stopping CJ anymore. He didn’t look good in the SF game too last year until he hurt himself and was done for the season. Fuller came in and changed that game for the Bears.

          • BerwynBomber

            He would definitely be a Bears HoF guy if they had one.

            Lach, Briggs and Peanut were fantastic players to have on a D roughly ten years together. We were a bit spoiled.

          • Yeah, I can see the cons of it too.
            Slower, more inj prone, might take valuable snaps away from the youngins, might not fit 3-4, etc.
            But if he wants in for close vet min – his quiet leadership and mentoring might be worth it right there.

          • John Doe

            I am for signing him up and helping the team through training camp. I know he wants to retire properly and I do too for sentimental reasons. Let him play the home season opener and then retire after week 1. Salary becomes guaranteed only after week 1.

            But giving him a spot on 53 for a full year would be a waste, IMO.

      • BearDown100393

        Peanut Tillman has earned the right to at least attend training camp if he so desires. If he earns a spot on the team, good enough IMO.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Safety. He was the perfect safety.

  • John Doe

    If Raiders are so desperate for a TE, Pace should offer them Martellus Bennett in a trade as long they also take Jared Allen. They have the cap space to accommodate both easily.

    Vic Tafur @VicTafur · 35m35 minutes ago
    Sources also say that after a long courtship, talks between #Raiders and TE Jermaine Gresham “are dead for now”

    • willbest

      That isn’t a bad idea actually.

      • John Doe

        I am telling you Bears can do so much more in FA if they somehow get rid of Jared Allen.

        He will be a complete misfit for $12 million. What a waste..

        • Trading Allen would only clear $1M in space. The other $11.5M has already been paid him and would stay in dead $$ on Chicago’s books.
          You don’t want to do so much more in FA. They’ve already signed 3 somewhat expensive FA and have a couple smaller, but still meaningful, moves still to come. That’s more than enough.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          The Free Agency pool has dried up like an old pussy.

          There’s nobody there. Nobody.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Greg Jennings was cut. There’s Jennings and Crabtree. If Greg takes a pay cut we could do worse. We got zilch.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Wait, we already paid him … so be it.

    • Raider’s are a lost cause. They had a boat load of cap. They could’ve easily landed Suh (who straight out claimed he cashed in).
      Could sign Hardy.
      Suh + Hardy + Mack + (some other FA – maybe Culliver, Cameron, Hudson/Wiesknewski)
      Along with their high draft picks and Carr/Murray would’ve been a greatly improved team.
      Instead, they do crap.

    • AlbertInTucson

      SOOO much interest in FAs from the CAP friendly Raiders.

      SOOO much DISinterst in the Raiders from FAs.

      • willbest

        One wonders what they are going to do with all that money. They are legally obligated to hand out a ridiculous sum of money next year.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Well, being the Raiders THEY are obligated to piss it away on players nobody else wants.

    • Johnnywad

      Why the hell would the Bears trade Martellus Bennett? Who’s next? Alshon Jeffrey or Kyle Long? You get plenty of picks for those guys. Plus, you won’t ever have to pay them any real money. Will you not be content until the entirety of the Bears offense has been offered up in trade?

  • GPLDAN

    I like Baldy’s mock.

    http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/mock-drafts/brian-baldinger/245600

    I like it because it has Mariotta falling to the Browns, who of course would take him – and that would be hysterically funny. Sonny Weaver my dick, Cleveland. Man that would be a hoot.

    • John Doe

      Trae Waynes over Leonard Williams for Bears ?? Baldy is nuts.

      Btw, have you noticed his tick “right now”. Count how many times he says “right now” in a minute..

      • A lot of “scouts” don’t like Williams’ ‘inconsistency”. Never know. DT Shariff Floyd fell hard and websites mocked him in the top 3 pre-draft.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Williams showed a LOT of immaturity on the field at SC. A LOT.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s brain-damaged. Baldy, not Williams.

  • Shit. Mike Wallace traded to Vikes according to PFT.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Cordarelle Patterson was a disappointment up here last sesaon.

      • Trac

        Albert used to be in Tuscon?

        • beninnorcal

          I was just wondering the same.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Typo. “There”. Still in Tucson enjoying the 80 degree weather.

    • willbest

      It was almost a given they would move Wallace after they signed Suh.

    • fine by me. Wallace is mediocre at best

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2015/03/10/durkins-free-agent-spotlight-olb-pernell-mcphee/

    All you need to know about McPhee. I hope Houston is healthy so Fangio can toy with both of them. That should be fun to watch.

  • Trac

    By the way Jeff, evra sports journalist knows you don’t take a spiral notebook to work. Hee hee.

  • Waffle

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/14/it-was-impossible-to-miss-in-2011-draft-unless-you-took-a-qb/

    Article : “It was impossible to miss in 2011 NFL draft unless you took a QB”….or unless you were the fucking Bears and took Gabe Carimi.

    • Big Mike

      That pick set the Bears back years. To this day I dislike the Badgers, because of Carimi. Not logical, but how the heck do you pick the one OL from Wisconsin who doesn’t live up to his draft slot.

      • GPLDAN

        Moffit on that same team was a bust who quit the NFL when he saw he couldn’t hack it.

        • Waffle

          Moffit was arrested for possession of weed, x and coke after punching some dude in a nightclub who said he was trying to sell ecstasy. Teenagers from New Trier sell X. What a tool.

        • Big Mike

          Chris Williams & Gabe Carimi, following Marc Columbo. 3 #1 draft choices that never lived up to being #1. Williams and Columbo both salvaged nice journeyman careers. Carimi’s a scrub. 12 picks after Williams was Duane Brown. He’s only a 3 time pro-bowler and a 1 time first team all pro at LT (not LG)

        • Cormonster

          I thought he was going to be a great pro. He was one of the best lineman I ever seen play for Wisconsin. He was a total beast in college. I was totally wrong about that one. Pete Carroll was ecstatic when Seattle drafted him.

          Side note: it’s better not to know a lot of these players when you root for them on your team. I went to two college parties that had a large number of players from the football team, and they were universally a bunch of dicks and thugs. Both times I almost got into fights. Same with the hockey players. One night a hockey player was slapping his girlfriend around at a party, and when me and a friend tried to stop it, about 8 players had a semi-circle around the abuser to stop anyone from butting in.

          • Scott W.

            Few are in college because they have the brains to be there.
            EDIT:
            A little harsh and too sweeping. Should have said that many jocks in college aren’t there for the degree, or because they earned the grades to be there.

            NBIT has seen it firsthand, he posted once.

      • Cormonster

        I’m a total Badger fan homer, but I was leery about drafting him and expressed it on this site. He was a great run blocker in college, but not a very good pass blocker. I couldn’t understand why he was rated so high. I thought maybe the scouts knew something about him that I didn’t see on the field.

        This year I’m puzzled by DE Randy Gregory out of Nebraska being rated so high by draft experts. I watched him play in a few games this year and nothing stood out about him that would warrant a top ten pick. Wisconsin ran for almost 600 yards against Nebraska this year, including over 400 by Gordon in 3 quarters. There were massive holes all day when they ran in his direction.

        • Big Mike

          It’s just that I throw up a little bit, when I think of Carimi and the aftertaste carries over to Wisconsin. I should love Wisconsin football. Smash mouth, cold weather team, but the Bear Jew and Angelo took that away from me. We talked about this once before. Maybe enough time has passed. How do the Badger look for football next season? Lot of people like Wisconsin in the NCAAs. Could snag a #1 seed. What’s your take? Can they beat MD in the big ten tournament

          • Cormonster

            I’m really happy the Badgers football coach Gary Anderson left for Oregon State. He wanted to transition the offense to more of a read-option or whatever, and I just don’t think Wisconsin can recruit the athletes for that style of play. One of Anderson’s beefs with Wisconsin was that the academic standards were too stringent and prevented him from recruiting a number of players that he wanted to offer scholarships. The guy they hired in his place, Paul Chryst, is the guy I wanted them to hire in the first place. He was a great OC for Wisconsin for quite a few years. They kept the DC, who’s a great young mind, named Dave Arranda, so it’s the best of both worlds. I think they will still be a consistent top 20 team, but not sure if they will ever get the players to win a title.

            I love this Badgers basketball team. They can beat MD for sure. They had a terrible game shooting in the last meeting. I think they are one of the few teams that can beat Kentucky in the tourney. This is by far the most talent Bo Ryan has had at Wisconsin. Anything less than an Elite 8 appearance would make the season a disappointment. Bo has got to be one of the greatest basketball coaches ever. He won four D3 national titles at UW-Platteville. In 14 seasons at Wisconsin they have never finished lower than 4th in the Big 10 and made the tournament every year. WI is the only team with a winning record on the road in conference play over those 14 years, and Bo has the highest Big 10 winning % in history. I just love how sound this team is at the fundamentals. Every year they have a top 10 defense in points allowed, and almost every year they are number one in the country in fewest turnovers and fouls committed. Their defense is also playing a lot better as the season has progressed. My only concerns defensively are against quick penetrating guards, or if the refs allow a big man to knock people around underneath without calling charging because WI doesn’t like to foul. Side note – PG Bronson Koenig (Ho Chunk Indian) played HS basketball one block away from my house.

          • Big Mike

            I will now, move Wisconsin into my NCAA Bracket to the elite eight. Mind you, this institution is on probation with me, because of the Carimi fiasco. If they get knocked out sooner, I may have to rid my fridge of Brats. 🙁

          • Cormonster

            I was telling all my friends last year that they were going to be in the Final 4 before Big 10 play even started, and this team is even better. If they are on the opposite side of Kentucky in the brackets, then I have them making the title game. Mmmm, brats.

        • Big Mike
    • Trac

      Hahahaha. Please don’t remind me of that stiff. I still remember how all the rabid fans were oohing and aahing when he fell to us. Just a friendly reminder that when things seem too good to be true, they usually are. Lol

      • Big Mike

        Fuck Jerry Angelo

        • Trac

          You have said it!

          • Big Mike

            When I’m reminded of him, I realize how much joy that POS cost us. Had he drafted one blue chip offensive lineman from 2005 to 2010 fate would have been much kinder, but instead we got
            2005 – none
            2006 – Tyler Reed – G (6)
            2007 – Josh Beekman – C (4)/ Aaron Brant – G (7)
            2008 – Kirk Barton -T (7) / Chester Adams – G (7) Chris Williams – T (1)

            2009 – Lance Louis – G (7) his best value pick “blind squirrel” theory at work.
            2010 – J’ Marcus Webb – T (7)

            In 2009 10 picks after the infamous pool jumper Jaron Gilber was Louis Vasquez, taken by SD. Vasquez has started in every game the last 3 years, started every game he played in the previous 3 years of his career. He missed 2 games in 2011 and 4 in 2010 with injuries. In 2013 he was first team All NFL as voted by the AP, Pro Football Writers and Pro Football Focus. One of many quality players dipshit missed on.

          • the entire list of offensive players drafted under Angelo. Avert your eyes: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/14vN2flgVATE6fsxoBSWtcjz8JQqyB6Rr_cPJ4BcG_Bo/edit#gid=0

          • Scott W.

            Did you whip that up Jonathan? Nicely done.
            You know, that list isn’t a start-to-finish horror film. Absolutely several nightmares, some bad dreams, a couple of can’t-remembers, but also a few damn fine heroes.
            Yep. A film themed post. GP’s fault for posting the Dirty Harry reference. Blame him.

          • Big Mike

            Look at the years after the SB appearance. That’s why the team never really competed again. Nothing in the pipleline, chasing the trophy with FA and BAM the team got old, slow and bad, with nothing to really show for 5 years of drafts. You can’t get shut out in the first round, year after year. And by shut out, I don’t mean grabbing guys that make the roster and play. You need to hit on a guy who is a difference maker. JA sucked the pipe in that regard.

          • Scott W.

            Oh, no argument from me Mike. I just noted that some of the players were good Bears.

          • Big Mike

            Some all – time favorites. But nobody is pining over Barry Minter, who was arguably the Bears’ best player in the late 90s

          • I’ve had that put together for a few years.

          • Big Mike

            not looking. Just not. The only thing worse would be the “who they could have picked list”

          • SC Dave

            And wasn’t Jerrah supposed to be an “expert” on OL??

          • Big Mike

            I think what we see too often is guys like Angelo, Emery etc trying to outsmart everyone. Sometimes the conventional wisdom is the right move. I have a theory, that GMs that didn’t play the game in college, are inclined to try and “compensate”, by trying to outsmart everyone and often ended up shooting themselves in the foot. Had Angelo and Emery gone with the prevailing wisdom of the day, a number of these picks (extend to McClellin) would not have happened. As a result Ryan Pace will lead us to the promised land 🙂 (He played at EIU – a fine 1AA program)

  • GPLDAN

    Happy Pi Day!

    3.14.15

    Eat some pie!

    And lament that the Dirty Harry video game never was published.

    • Scharfinator

      MIT released their entrance results at 9:26.

      3.1415926

      • Scott W.

        My dopple ganger is on there somewhere…

      • Big Mike

        That is so cool.

    • Scott W.

      Wham! Pow! KaBoom!

  • Scott W.

    ::::Warning!!! Blasphemy Follows!!!::::

    I am a little hesitant to say that John Fox is our magic elixir. I do believe he is a vast, almost incalculable improvement over Nessman, and Pace is equally a better GM than Emery can fantasize about being.
    Qualifiers stated, and with all due respect….

    I am a bit skeptical because of his age and partially, his resume. I know he took Delhomme to the big dance, but even we as a blog commenters collective could have won with Manning in Denver.
    Where is Fox in his career trajectory? If he was a golf club (really, think about it; there are Fortune 500 companies that use this formula during hiring processes) which one would he be? Driver, 7 iron, or putter? A different club?

    I think he’s an upgrade, to be clear, and best available too. However, I do not see him as a SB achieving HC for us. A good builder and repairman, but I’m not sure he’s going to take us to the Big Dance in 2017 (my opinion is that our first possible shot is 2 seasons away, because of the FUCKING MESS EMERY/NESSMAN left us), and certainly not 2015 or 16.

    In the spirit of GP’s Dirty Harry reference, “Go ahead, make [your] day”…

    • Big Mike

      Tebow to playoffs in Denver. Case closed.

      • Scott W.

        No, the case isn’t closed, but I appreciate your point. Tebow was in an anomaly year. Just like other QBs have had.

        • Big Mike

          I’m just trying to convince myself. The odds are very great that John Fox will not win a SB with the Bears. I would argue that the odds are also very great that we will be dramatically closer to winning a SB than we are now.

          • Scott W.

            Odds are 1-16 we make it this year…or is it 16-1?

          • Big Mike

            this year to the Super Bowl. > 16:1. Long shot at best. I’ve seen 60 to 1

          • Waffle

            i’m putting 25 on the Bears as NFC Champs and 25 as Super Bowl Champs. Can’t hurt.

          • Big Mike

            Let me recount the story of how Chris Conte cost me $30k. Long story short, Mike gets drunk in Vegas, wagers $1,000 on the Bears to win the NFC north. I also had a $500 on the SB and $500 on make the playoffs. I liked the odds with Trestman coming in, the weapons they had put together, thought the defense only had to be average, blah, blah. Didn’t look like I had a shot, until Rodgers went down and then GB lost an unexpected game. All we had to do was win 1 of the last 2 games. Instead they got waxed by an alarmingly average Philadelphia team. This was the first time I recall realizing Trestman was out of his depth as an NFL coach. The Eagles were so much better prepared for this game, but then we get the struggling Packers at Home. Then conte decides to suck a cock right on the field.

          • Waffle

            that sucks. Gambling is a heartbreaker. You lost 30k because the football gods decree’d it. Do you know how many things had to happen exactly as they did for the Bears to lose that game to the Packers?

            I missed a 12 team parlay 2 years ago because the Falcons tried to get cute at the end of a half and went for it on 4th down and 1 instead of just taking points with a field goal. I lost the over under by fucking 2 pts. I would have won about 10k on a 30.00 bet or something of the sort.

            I will never gamble again….except on the Bears winning the NFC or SuperBowl.

          • Big Mike

            My thinking when I made the bet was the odds were off. I wasn’t that upset. But damn. I was way more upset they lost, how they lost and that it was the Packers, than I was about the $

          • Irish Sweetness

            Betting on 12 results is why bookmakers make money!

          • SC Dave

            No, he lost $2,000 because he placed bets.

      • Waffle

        AFC West was something special that year.

        • Big Mike

          But they got a win in the playoffs, didn’t they. The point is he took a Caleb Hanie level QB and figured out a way to win a playoff game. He may never get us over the top, but he’s going to get us on the road to the SB. That’s all that matters coming out of this shit show we just watched.

          • Scott W.

            “…on the road to…” is plausible, but there are so many variables…just have a few doubts, is all, but nothing serious. I do think he was the best choice in the aftermath of the God-awful Emery/Nessman embarrassment.

          • Big Mike

            I don’t know how he wasn’t the best choice available. John Fox fell from the sky into our laps with perfect timing. Had we pulled the trigger sooner, we’d have missed the opportunity. :Later, he’d have been snagged. We’d have ended up with a 1st time HC.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            he had a pretty good defense also.

      • AlbertInTucson

        The Steelers are STILL trying to live that down.

    • John Doe

      I suspect the main reason John Fox came to Bears is because of lifetime medical benefits Bears offer to employees. Bears are one of the few NFL franchises or businesses for that matter who offer such generous benefits. I bet a guy with a heart condition like John Fox values that a lot.

      I don’t see John Fox coaching more than 3 years or maybe even just two depending on his health. And they might be grooming Adam Gase as the next head coach. Gase and Pace the two young whiz kids take the franchise forward in the long term.

      • Scott W.

        No, I don’t think he took the job for the health plan.
        And I do think he’s a good coach.

        • John Doe

          He is a good coach but I am not sure if has the same intensity after the heart scare. Reports out of Denver last year hinted that he lost control of the locker room and there was not much individual player accountability and it led to one and done playoffs. He returned from heart surgery the year before in late season but the team was inadequately prepared for Super Bowl and never stood a chance.

          Just a couple of data points that make me think he is not as good as he was before surgery.

          • Scott W.

            If what you’re saying is true, it’s the first I’ve heard of it.
            I did find it odd that Elway let him leave, but never gave it too much thought.

          • John Doe

            Don’t get me wrong, he is huge, huge upgrade over Trestman. And I am happy he is here.

            Here is a link..

            http://chi.scout.com/story/1524965-john-fox-an-insider-s-perspective

          • Scott W.

            Can’t get past the paywall, so I’ll accept your summation. Hadn’t heard there was trouble.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ditka had a heart attack and was back in work like 10 ten days later… and coached for years. Man up if you wanna be Da Coach, Foxy!

      • BearDown100393

        John Fox is 5 years from Medicare.

    • Trac

      Scott, help me out please. Has Foxy ever coached da bears before?

      • Scott W.

        I’m sure that’s a trick question sooooooo….I’ll say the last foxy on the Bears was wearing a Honey Bear outfit, just to be safe.

        • Trac

          Da Bears!

    • NewBearInTown

      John Fox was far and away the best guy we could have gotten as a head coach. Some folks wanted Gase to be the HC and he’s now our OC. Folks would have begged to get Fangio as a HC and he’s now our DC. Fox has assembled an incredible staff. It could be that Manning made Gase look better than he is, but its a lot easier to replace an OC than a HC – and I trust Fox to bring in a someone truly talented when Gase either burns out or succeeds so well he becomes a head coach.
      As to the skill set? Fox is basically a defensive minded coach. That’s what worked for Carolina with Delhome, that’s what worked with Tebow, that’s what he’s building here. But he can run a good team.
      Once you make the playoffs, anything can happen. Fox can get us to the playoffs. If Pace assembles enough talent, Fox can get us the trophy.
      He’s not the #1 coach in the NFL. But the #1 coach in the league, whoever you think that is, hasn’t won more than once in the last 5 years.

      • Scott W.

        Yeah yeah…you know what I hate? When people counter my discourse with reason, logic, and verifiable evidence that my misgivings are ridiculous.
        Thanks NBIT, you bastard.

  • Waffle

    lol, tensions be getting high in Chicago with the weather getting nicer:

    This morning i had to meet a client near U of Chicago. My car tire blows a tire. For those not familiar with the area of 47th st east around the expressway and heading east towards the lake let’s just say that it’s not as cozy as some other parts of town.

    I am a Robbie Gould missed field goal from the gas station. The gas station is manned by at least 8 guys that want to fucking kill me desperately who are starting to meander towards me. My hands are in my coat pockets, not because I’m cold but because i’m asking myself if i actually have to blast my way out of here and actually run back to the goddamn freeway on a saturday late morning.

    At the last minute 3 guys pull up in an old pickup truck with a winch on the fucking back. I shit you not. Three 45yr+ black guys each more jacked and mill strong than the next with an industrial jack. We change my tire like a Nascar fucking pit crew while one of the guys meets the group of youths halfway and starts yelling at them. Bought us a couple of minutes. I grabbed all the cash in my wallet and slapped it into the guys hands and say thanks. He looks at me laughs a little and says, “get yo crazy white ass out of here and never come back”.

    Chicago.

    • Scott W.

      Oh, that story is fucking awesome….I visualized it all clearly. I know Chicago some, and shit, that area is assault land.

      • Big Mike

        A bunch of my buddies are cops in Chicago. They have become jaded, cynics, with a great deal of disdain for the human condition. They talk of simply containing the animals. There are unofficial boundaries within which criminals are not ignored, but this is where they are maneuvered. The tension is palpable, as bad characters breed more bad characters, while Wrigleyville, Lincoln Park and points North and NW are guarded. Which came first, poverty, crime, or the fuel being added to the fire by concentrating the “Bad”? There are no simple answers.

        There is solid advice, If you are venturing into these areas regularly, you need run flat tires, a conceal and carry permit, and a well maintained car. I shit you not.

        • Scott W.

          Very well put. Spot-on.

        • GPLDAN

          I’m going to graduation at Navy Pier on the 30th, to see my nephew join the CPD. His first assignment is going to be west side, Lawndale. My dad was CPD and now my nephew is.

          • Big Mike

            Congrats. The West Side Is no bargain. Best of luck to him.

    • BearDown100393

      I read this already from Fleming on Twitter. Good stuff nonetheless.

    • Johnnywad

      Your guardian angels are badass.

  • John Doe

    Rahim Moore is a fool. 3 year starter signs 3 year $12 million deal at age 25.

    Ron Parker 1 starter signs 5 year $30 million deal at age 28.

    Fire your dumb agent, Rahim Moore.

    And well done Pace for not going crazy over Parker.

    • Didn’t Moore have some medical condition that teams were a bit worried about?
      Could’ve sworn I read that he almost lost his leg cuz of it. Maybe that factored into it, esp in a year with little S options.

      • Big Mike

        FA spending is a path to hell, unless you are close. Here’s a look back at 2014 Free Agency and grades 1 year later from MSN Sports I think. It’s an annoying slide show, but the commentary is equally valuable as the grading. Best Teams in the leauge, got better grades, even though they spent less. Go figure. http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-free-agency-grades-a-look-at-how-last-years-moves-panned-out/ss-BBhZKnL#image=20

        • Scott W.

          Remember the Eagles F/A dream team? They illustrate your point well.

          • Big Mike

            To a lesser degree, Redskins, Jets, Raiders.. and I don’t know possibly the Bears in Emery’s last year, trying to buy a defense. More out of necessity than habit as some of these other teams, but in hindsight “winning the offseason” seems to consistently be a bad sign.

          • Scott W.

            It’s abject desperation, and history shows it is doomed to fail. Hence, it is repeated.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The Bears gave Rolle a 3 year $12 million deal at age 32.

      • Big Mike

        I think they can turn it into a two year deal and chop it off. Maybe I’m remembering that wrong.

      • It’s basically a 1 year, $5M deal.

        $3M cap hits both of the last 2 years, but can be cut with no dead money at any time after 2015.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I know. But so can the Texans and Chiefs with those 2 guys.

          $5 M for Rolle is a lot. 2 years 8 M for Rolle stinks to me like the 2 years 15+M Emery paid Allen.

          Almost done players acquired in positions of need mostly because of their leadership skills/value.

          I understand the rationale for both the moves… but I don’t it like it… at all.

          PS: I would have signed Tillman and made him play the 5th DB. I’d rather have him defend the Jimmy Grahams of the world instead of Rolle.

          • I’m not a huge fan of the Rolle signing either, but I really like that it wasn’t backloaded.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            what’s the difference ?

            I’d rather have it backloaded… when Cutler is gone and the rookie QB they’ll draft gets pennies, while the cap goes up 10 M/year a pop.

            By 2017 the cap will be 160 M and the Bears will have for 4 years a 6M/year QB max. That’s less than 4%.

            So Rolle could very well have a 10M cap hit that year…I don’t care. You see teams like the Raiders, Jaguars, Titans. They had 50+ M in cap space, but not enough good/great players available.

          • it’s about being smart with your cap from year to year. Don’t want to be stuck with guys on big hits after they’re done being useful.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yeah don’t want to be in the saints situation trying/having to trade/cut away a lot of talent.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yeah… I’d rather bring in quality starters and push the cap into the post ‘franchise QB’ era.

            I’d rather have 30 M of cap space in 2015, 30 M in 2016 instead of 10 M in 2015 and 50 M in 2016.

      • Irish Sweetness

        No love for Mundy? One of our best players last year. I’m not thrilled they signed a 32 year old safety.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Sure. He is a solid player and team mate.

  • Waffle

    I know it’s not an insanely pressing need but the thought of Jennings, Alshon, Royal, Bennett and Forte makes my special place all tingly.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/14/vikings-part-ways-with-greg-jennings-after-mike-wallace-trade/

    • John Doe

      I would rather they go for Rob Housler the underused Cardinals TE. Younger, cheaper and will allow Gase to use 2 TE sets.

      • Waffle

        I really like Housler. Who did you parrot this solid idea from?

        • John Doe

          Aaron Leming just tweeted this.

          • Waffle

            haha, nice.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i’m not sure if he is joking, not going to check either.

      • Irish Sweetness

        (cough)
        Zach Miller

    • Big Mike

      That’s buying into the trickery of trying to fix this team quickly. Shouldn’t grab anyone the other side of 30. Have to get younger. Have to.

      • Waffle

        totally agree. Have my Guinness glasses on.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        The team is young enough. And talented. The problem is there weren’t many options in FA in the lackluster positions.

        Like ILB and S…which are the only 2 positions where the Bears have proper needs.

        • Johnnywad

          They’re the third oldest team in the NFL. At least as of last year. Tillman, Briggs and Marshall being gone will reduce the average age a bit.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well… of offense there are 3 players over 30. Bushrod (30), Garza, Cutler. On Defense there’s Ratliff, Rolle, Jennings (31), Mundy (30).

            Very likely all will be gone at the end of the season.

  • Waffle

    We squashed that first Ebola scare and made Sac and IBNO look like geniuses…geniii?

    Then the Ebola gods were like, fuck you, let’s see if you can withstand this and not have an outbreak:

    http://news.yahoo.com/least-10-people-flown-u-possible-ebola-exposure-195234152.html

    • Trac

      I’m still recovering from the worst eboli like flu I’ve evra had. Oh and I was at a convention in the Dallas area the week before my 1st symptoms started. I’m nevra going back to that germ infested city.

  • EnderWiggin
    • That sounds so wrong.

      • EnderWiggin

        Haha, its safe for work, folks.
        No offense to you or Blogfather, but Lorin Cox has probably become my favorite Bears writer the last year or so. He does great with Xs and Os, brings a fresh attitude to the same ‘ol bore, and reminds me of Artoo with his positive outlook.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Ender loves the Cox …

  • AlbertInTucson

    Married 34 years today. As my late father would say…

    “Seems like just yesterday…and you know what a lousy day yesterday was.”

    JUST kidding.

    I’d do it all again.

    • EnderWiggin

      Congratulations! Big plans for next year?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Welcome the first grandchild.

        • EnderWiggin

          Double Gratz!

        • Irish Sweetness

          The Coral/Jade anniversary next. Still relatively inexpensive. Congrats, Al. No mean feat.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Well, you know what they say: “The first 34 years are the toughest.”

    • Trac

      My parents put up a 50 spot this year. I was joking with my mom about it the other day and she laughed and said that for 50 years she’d been threatening to leave my dad to which I replied, “trust me, after only 10 years, it’s not looked upon as a threat anymore” Hahaha.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Whoa nelly.

        How young are your folks, Trac?

    • GPLDAN

      Getting her a Payton jersey?

      • AlbertInTucson

        Hmm. it IS the “The Payton Anniversery” but we’re not much on jerseys here. Plenty of Bears shirts but only my #51 jersey. Next year will be Rick Casares/ Neal Anderson.

    • Cormonster

      Congratulations Al. Our family just celebrated my parents 45th anniversary. It seems like only yesterday I was bouncing around in my Mom’s belly at the reception, then later that night banging heads with my Dad.

      • AlbertInTucson

        We were already “living in sin” but there weren no ‘passengers’ on board at that point. Actually, the night of the wedding we just went home and crashed.

        • AlbertInTucson

          It WAS one helluva party.

  • GPLDAN

    Bieber roast toasties:

    Jeff Ross made a jab at Justin’s manhood, while involving Selena, saying according to @ABCNewsJason: ‘Selena Gomez wanted to be here, but she’s dating men now. I know you’ll never end up like Kurt Cobain or Amy Winehouse – I mean respected. You literally are a guy who has it all except respect, love, good parents and a Grammy.’

    Jeff added, according to The Hollywood Reporter: ‘Is it true you dumped her because she grew a mustache before you? Selena Gomez had sex with you… proving Mexicans will do the disgusting jobs Americans just won’t do. If Anne Frank had heard your music, she would’ve Uber’d to Auschwitz.’

    Martha Stewart displayed her self-deprecating humour, stating according to @ABCNewsJason: ‘@MarthaStewart: Let’s get to the reason I’m here tonight, to give Justin tips for when he ends up in prison .’

    And Martha, 73, was slammed quite a bit herself with Matt Donnelly tweeting words from Natasha Leggero’s mouth: ‘”I’m not saying Martha Stewart is old, but she needs a new Walker more than the FastAndFurious franchise.”

    • Irish Sweetness

      Bieber got roasted? Have to see that!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Sounds like a weak crew for the toast. No Lamapanelli or Gottfried to make it really brutal. And Beebs wanted Seth Rogen? Don’t you have to be funny to do a roast?

        Who’ll make the first link between the hair on his upper lip and the number of pubes in the front row of his concerts? how do you roast a kid like that? He’s made his millions, he banged Selena, and when he goes to work it’s tens of thousands of girls screaming his name and they all want to #$% him. I don’t see the angle. Sheen was easy, but how do you get the Beebs?

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          he is canadian.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Am I missing his posts or has Canada Bearbeen VERY quiet lately?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            he said a couple threads back that he was going to be taking a break for a while.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Thank you, HBP.

          • Cormonster

            I talked to him about 2 weeks ago and he said he was quitting the blog because it was getting too toxic. Told me to let him know if things get better. I can’t say I blame him. I’ve been skimming through comments since at least November. I read about 10% of the comments, unless I see a Cutler debate or a bunch of speculations. Then I read 0%.

  • GPLDAN

    Lions lost Bush.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Actually, I believe they cut him loose for CAP space.

    • Yes, Bush can be very elusive on or off the market…

  • Irish Sweetness

    Well, FA was a disappointment. The most exciting thing that could happen now would be Greg Jennings.

    And this is as close as I get to L.A./Hollywood. Bill Burr driving around it. Rocking the Prius, but he’s looking for an old Mustang.

    • NewBearInTown

      Free Agency was more exciting the past two years and our win total was cut in half over that time.
      I’d rather have a quiet off-season and win some more games.

      • Irish Sweetness

        But is that it? We lose our #1 WR and we’re calling it quits at AJ ? Any guy we draft – even White – becomes a project. Unless Fox is serious about being a run-first team. I feel a HB in our next draft. MAybe we get some mad value in the third.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        2 years ago the Bears got Bushrod and Bennett. This year McPhee and Royal.

        Same fucking thing,

        Just because Emery brought in Marshall in year 0 and Allen in year 3…people seem to think he was bringing in the Suh’s of the world every day of FA.

    • You know who always has boring FA periods? GB and Baltimore.

      • NewBearInTown

        Green Bay is the only team to not have a single new face. Baltimore just signed a journeyman safety (Kendrick Lewis) to what I assume will be a small money deal. If I recall correctly, neither team has had serious cap problems the past few years (though Flacco’s deal was pretty rich when he signed it).

        • NewBearInTown

          Although you do see Seattle and New England pretty active in free agency the last couple of years. So there are different ways to get it done successfully.

          • Trac

            Yup. As long as you don’t get emotionally attached. Sign a player here, a player there, and if he can be replaced by someone that’s cheaper or more productive, so be it.

          • Seattle’s best players are Wilson (drafted), Lynch (traded for), Graham (traded for), Chancellor (drafted), Thomas (drafted), and Sherman (drafted).

            The only real good players they got as FA were Michael Bennett and Cliff Avril, both of whom came on smallish, short-term deals before being signed long term i SEA after a year or two.

            They’ve also lost quality players they drafted in FA the last few years, including Byron Maxwell, Brandon Browner, and Golden Tate.

          • Don’t forget they traded for Harvin too, so obviously, they don’t subscribe to the GB philo of strictly building through draft.

    • Johnnywad

      This was precisely the type of free agency period I expected and hoped for. This is a good first step for Pace. No need to get greedy just yet. They still have a little money left if something good pops up, plus more cap room next year. Now let’s see if Pace can start drafting well.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “Adam Jahns ✔ @adamjahns

    Talked to Eddie Royal this morning. The new #Bears WR described –unsolicited– GM Ryan Pace as “amazing” and his team vision “felt right.” ”

    GREAT!

    Of course, that’s how new crewmen felt about being on The Lusitania, The Titanic , the Edmund Fitzgerald.

    • Johnnywad

      Hard to be disgruntled just after being handed millions of dollars before the first day of work

    • Big Mike

      Wouldn’t expect negative comment. But offering that up is good to hear.

    • Cormonster

      You forgot the Bismark, the terror of the seas. It had guns as big as steers, and shells as big as trees. Yeah, I listened to a lot of Johnny Horton at my Grandma’s house as a kid.

      • AlbertInTucson

        SINK THE BISMARCK is an excellent semi-documentary movie starring Kenneth More and Dana Wynter but I remembe, as a kid, when we went to see it at the Lake Theatre in Oak Park, being disappointed that Johnny Horton’s song was NOT part of the soundtrack.

        Same thing happened for with Gene Pitney’s THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALENCE which John Ford didn’t (wouldn’t?) use.

        Ford, a great director who was also a renowned ass-hole, also complained about multiple Oscar Winner, Max Steiner’s, score for the Ford/John Wayne classic THE SEARCHERS. BTW, THE SEARCHERS soundrack is outstanding.

        If I were Steiner, every bit the genius in his art that Ford was, I’d have told John Ford to take his musical opinions are stick’em up his drunken butt.

        “The Duke” on the other hand WAS smart enough to use Horton’s NORTH TO ALASKA as the theme for his movie of the same name.

        All good movies. All good songs. Each of the songs IS contained on my CDs mixes of my favorite ballads and pop folk rock songs.

        Horton’s other huge hit is, of course, THE BATTLE OF NEW ORLEANS which was then brilliantly parodied by country comic duo, Homer & Jethro, as THE BATTLE OF CAMP KOOKAMONGA.

        • Cormonster

          I just watched some you tube videos of Johnny’s hits. I think I’m gonna have to go buy his Greatest Hits. One of the videos I watched was the song Johnny Reb. A whole bunch of the comments were people arguing and lamenting about why the south lost in the Civil War. I guess it WAS only 150 years ago.

          • AlbertInTucson

            He died young (35) in 1960 as the result of injuries from a car wreck.

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    so every time i look at profootballtalk.com i see a headline about someone visiting the Browns. It got me to wandering, is it mandatory for free agents to go there? we hardly hear about FA going visiting any other team but if they go to the Browns it’s a headline. Do they got a reporter sitting in the airport reporting on who gets off the plane? I know Cleveland sucks but there’s got to be a better job for that reporter. Is their front office so desperate to make Cleveland sound like a destination that they leak every FA that gets a layover in Cleveland.

    • BearDown100393

      Perhaps it is an unofficial “Rooney Rule”-like stipulation by the NFL. All free agents must at least visit or meet with a Browns official before deciding upon a new team.

  • Shady

    http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-football/25108457/bear-o-lineman-jay-cutler-can-be-as-good-as-tom-brady-aaron-rodgers

    “Last season wasn’t exactly a banner year for Bears quarterback Jay Cutler. Not only did Cutler lead the NFL with 24 turnovers, but things eventually got so bad that he was benched for backup quarterback Jimmy Clausen.

    It’s one thing to get benched, but it’s another thing entirely to get benched for Clausen, who now has a 1-10 career record as a starter.

    Despite Cutler’s struggles last season, he still has at least one vocal supporter in the Bears locker room and that supporter is someone who really, really, really supports him.

    During an interview with WGN radio last week, left guard Matt Slauson said that Cutler can be the best quarterback ‘in the league.'”

    • BearDown100393

      Which league?

  • John Doe

    If they get these 3, the roster will be much improved and Pace will have all the flexibility he needs in the draft..


    “I’m told the Bears are still working on the Mason Foster deal.
    I’m also told they’ve jumped into the race for C Stefen Wisniewski and are one of three finalists for former Browns NT Ahtyba Rubin (6-2, 325).”

    • Foster, Australian for meh LB.
      Wisniewski interests me. I don’t understand how the Raiders keep allowing their Olinemen to go. Last year I think it was their LT Valdheer who could’ve prevented Carr from getting murdered a few times.

      NT Rubin…I would have to read up on – I feel he’s below avg, but if he’s cheap – it’s all about not reaching in draft.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I think it’s the same NFL bullshit. They’re other GMs draft choices. In the NFL present GMs are very trigger happy in getting rid of the exes moves.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Meh… average players.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        these average players are a lot better than what we had on the team last year.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          You saying Forster, Wisniewski and Rubin are better players than DJ Williams, De La Puente and Paea ?

          I don’t see it that clearly as you do. I think it’s pretty close.

          PS: I don’t care the C and NT. I DO care about the ILB. The Bears need a proper one. I’d be much in favor of a trade in order to get it done.
          I don’t care how, just bring me a proper ILB.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yes that is what i am saying. they are better than DJ Williams DLP and Paea.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            based on what ? Wishful thinking ?

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    A real friend knows what kind of beer you drink. This guy needs better friends, and he took the first small steps to cutting loose a bad friend.

    http://www.eater.com/2015/3/15/8218841/beer-brand-argument-new-orleans-man-shoots-friend-budweiser-busch

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Lucky bastard Jeff is going to see Blackhawks vs Rangers.

    I just hope that if in 5 years there will be a ‘stickgate’ about Toews’s stick, he will not question the greatness of the player and the experience.

    • willbest

      I have been meaning to get down to the UC and watch those two. I remember seeing Jordan play in person. Elite talent is a pleasure to watch.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Not to Jeff. He saw in person an old time great like Brady, in the snow, at Soldier Field. Can it get better than that ? Not for me.

        After ‘deflateballsgate’ he wondered and questioned his experience.

  • John Doe

    Lovie offering more than AZ Cardinals for AP.

    Rand Getlin @Rand_Getling · 1h1 hour ago
    #Bucs have deal in place to trade for #Vikings RB Adrian Peterson. Sending ’15 2nd-round pick & ’16 3rd-round pick to MIN, per source. #NFL

    • RB market sure is strange. For the “new” NFL which devalues them, a lot of teams sure are acting like RBs actually matter (Shady, Gore, Murray, Lynch…)

      • Trac

        AP is not your average talented RB. But DeMarco definite got lucky with his deal. Marshawn is also a best. He deserved his payday.

        • FourFeathers

          I don’t know how some team in good conscience can trade for AP. He’s a child abuser. And he’s fathered countless children, to include one poor victim who was beaten to death by another man. I don’t care how great AP is on the football field, there are things bigger than sports. I would be very angry at the Bears if they signed human feces like this.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            he took discipline a step to far, would not consider him a child abuser. and so what if he fathered countless children, he is supporting them financially at least. and you cant blame him for the death of one of his children. get off your high horse.

          • FourFeathers

            That’s just great. So if you fathered a child by a woman and you were absent in that child’s life, I guess you wouldint blink an eye to learn your innocent son or daughtered was physically abused to the point of dying. May you rot in hell.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            don’t twist my words. 1st you do not know how involved AP was in any of his kids lives. 2nd you have no idea how it affected him personally that his kid died. 3rd it was the kids mothers boyfriend that did it, what is he supposed to do? background check every person she becomes involved with. you are judging from a distance.

            “He who is without sin among you, let him be the first to throw a stone at her.”

          • willbest

            My understanding was the mother didn’t even tell him about the kid until very recently. The mother’s boyfriend thought it was his kid, and was none to pleased to find out he was mistaken.

          • Irish Sweetness

            http://dailysnark.com/pictures-adrian-petersons-sons-beating-wounds-emerge/

            Four years old. My girls are four, and may God have mercy on my soul if I was capable of doing this to a little one.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i understand, but there are a lot of people in this world that do not see anything wrong with how he disciplined his kid.

          • Lovie’s a devout christian. They tend to believe in forgiveness.

          • FourFeathers

            I am too. But I haven’t seen anything out of AP to suggest he did anything wrong. And he is reported to now have fathered 13 children. Buy a condom pal. And be a proper father figure and a provider to those 13 children. He is human scum. If it does not crush your soul that he was blind to the physical abuse his 3 year old endured at the hands of another person who ultimately killed the child?

          • Isn’t being able to work part of the “be a proper provider”?
            What’s done is done. Can’t go back and undo him banging chicks to produce 13 kids, but at least he should be able to work and throw some coin to the kids and the single moms (instead of taxpayers).

            As for whether he’s scum or not, I try not to judge other men’s hearts.

            Maybe he’s changed. Ppl go through shit sometimes, and they can grow.

            I’m no bible thumper, but didn’t David send some dude to the front line to get killed so he can fuck his wife back home?

            God didn’t just smite him.

          • BearDown100393

            Who is “they” exactly in terms of believing in forgiveness?

          • Christians “theoretically” are supposed to believe in forgiveness and turn the other cheek.
            Theoretically is the operative word. As Ghandi once remarked, “I like your Christ. I do not like your christians.”

          • Irish Sweetness

            It’s certainly a strong tenet of the Catholic faith -hence the rite of confession, asking God for forgiveness – not sure about the Protestant faith though.

          • Trac

            The bible says if your brother repents you are to forgive him. Our hearts are supposed to be prepared to forgive. The death penalty is a judeo Christian principle. Gandhi? Gag me.

          • Trac

            The guilty shall in no ways go unpunished.

        • I know he’s the exception, but Lynch and Gore (“old” HBs) are also bucking the trend.
          Shady also has tons of carries on him, and it’s not as if Murray has been the paragon of health.
          The RB was more robust than I expected, esp considering how deep the HB draft class is.

          The pendulum is swinging back I think. This is what I addressed last season when we were a burning shit bag.

          I was fearful that by the time we dumped Tresty, we’d be chasing the run-centric O, but by then the NFL would probably trend another way.

          Luckily for us all, some lawyer pushed George McCaskey at a game, and our shift quickened ahead of schedule.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Got to say…for a church going individual Lovie does love himself some rapists and child beaters.

  • Bears not going to be able to rebuild entire defense in 1 off-season.
    Over-spending at positions of need would be impatient and ill-advised. – Jeff

    Funny. I think Jeff said the same exact thing about offense (esp the line) when Emery came in.

  • FourFeathers

    I really like what Pace is doing. Emery was addicted to free agency as was Angelo…that is a recipe for failure. A team needs to be smart snd selectively use free agency while the draft is what dominates the strategy. There shall be no shortcuts for Pace and Fox. I like it, even though we’ll have to endure meatballs who will rip Pace to shreds if the Bears only win 6 games or so in 2015.

    • willbest

      I don’t see where Pace was all that different from Emery in FA. McPhee was a splash signing. Royal and Rolle are getting big money. And the Centers he is looking at aren’t going to be on affordable vet contracts either (sub 2 mil).

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        don’t let facts get in the way of ones hallucinations.

        Actually Emery’s only move is his first FA was trading for Brandon Marshall and his 9M cap hit.

        Rolle, Royal and McPhee have a 17 M cap hit.

      • Johnnywad

        McPhee a splash signing? I think your measuring stick is broken.

        • willbest

          McPhee got 15 mil guaranteed (same as Houston, Allen, Bushrod) and only Allen got more average per year.

          • Johnnywad

            Its a really nice deal for McPhee. I just don’t see it a big one for the position.

            From PFF

            Value: $8m a year doesn’t even sniff the top 10 contracts for edge defenders and is less than even former Raven Paul Kruger got on the open market. Even if McPhee doesn’t take on an added role and remains a sub-package guy he projects to be well worth the money.

  • Irish Sweetness

    BradBiggs Brad Biggs
    Sources say #Bears have expressed interest in veteran C Samson Satele.http://t.co/FH7zN8WICw

    “Satele, 30, started all 16 games for the Dolphins last season, his second stint with the team. He replaced Mike Pouncey, who missed the first four games of the season following hip surgery. When Pouncey got on the field, he was switched to right guard, allowing Satele to remain at center as the Dolphins said they wanted to keep their best five linemen on the field.”

  • Irish Sweetness

    Out of curiosity I looked to see where Kam Chanellor was drafted. 5th rd – 133rd pick.

    Then I was thinking, who did we draft in 2010 .. why wasn’t a dude Kam’s size on their board?

    Check this out: No picks in rd 1 or 2.

    Round: 3, Pick: 11 (Overall: 75) Major Wright, S, Florida

    Round: 4, Pick: 11 (Overall: 109) Corey Wootton, DE, Northwestern

    Round: 5, Pick: 10 (Overall: 141) Joshua Moore, CB, Kansas State

    Round: 6, Pick: 12 (Overall: 181) Dan LeFevour, QB, C. Michigan

    Round: 7, Pick: 11 (Overall: 218) J’Marcus Webb, OT, West Texas A&M

    Speaks for itself really.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      he wasn’t on a lot of team’s boards. but to top it off we had Angelo making picks.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        You can’t fault Angelo for that particular pick. Drafting Major Wright instead of Kam Chanellor is less of an error than drafting players that don’t fit the system.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i am faulting Angelo for the history of ineptitude with his picks, not just this miss on a 5th rounder.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Of course.

            My point was that picking Wright instead of Kam wasn’t actually a miss.

            The biggest mistake a GM can do is pick players that don’t fit the system. Kam isn’t a Cover 2 Safety.

            So, it would have been a miss drafting Kam instead of Wright, strangely. Even if he’s 10 times better.

    • I just played my Madden 10 or 11 or whatever, and Chancellor is ranked in the low 70s, so even the great Madden misses.

      Also, many teams who find these gems get quite lucky themselves. If the Hawks REALLY knew what Chancellor would become, you think they’d have waited till the 5th?

      Same with Brady. It’s not as if the Pats said, “Yeah, Brady’s a sure-fire HOFer, but we’ll pick up some Adrienn Klemm, J.R. Redmond, Greg Randall and a few others before we swing by later for him.”

      Bill didn’t have an epiphany about Brady. Bill’s QB coach was actually the one who convinced Bill to take a shot on him, Bill shrugged and obliged.

      The rest, as they say, is history.

      Sometimes, thems are the breaks (I’m just hoping for a little karma coming back our way)

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wouldn’t you draft him just on size ? How many safeties turn up with those kind of dimensions?

        • not necessarily. Taylor Mays and Larron Landry were big too, and they’re mediocre at best.

          http://i.ytimg.com/vi/l2CE8y_rZio/hqdefault.jpg

          The reason Chancellor can get away with it is because Earl Thomas is such a stud, that Kam can basically stay in the box and let Thomas clean up the rest behind him.

          If it wasn’t for Earl (or Sherman for that matter), teams would spread them out and torch them.

          In some ways, that’s what the Pats did in the SB. Just a bunch of short passes to use their size against them. Death by papercuts.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Wasn’t Kam awesome in the SB ? Or was that the other game ? It was in coverage too … he was like the MVP for me.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I disagree.

            It goes both ways. In that system, if the SS is poor, the TEs would roam free, which would force the FS to cheat over his top, which would open a lot of holes and put Sherman and Thomas of the back foot.

            Also..they would be torched without a superior MLB. They were exposed this year without Wagner.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        You see…that’s the thing. If your story is true, Bill had somebody with him that saw the potential and he ‘obliged’.

        Hiring competent and you with similar vision people around you is as important as picking players. Fox has that skill himself. I believe it’s his number 1 trait.

        • SC Dave

          Saw enough potential to spend a 6th round pick. Big deal.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s the losing mentality Bears fans have. While they claim the building trough the draft insanity.

            It’s not about the pick itself…it’s about what ‘potential’ means to you. That was the sense of my post.

            PS: The Patriots started the SuperBowl on Offense with:
            4 undrafted players, 5 high draft (1-3), 2 low draft (6-7).
            One 1st rounder.

            On Defense they had:

            3 undrafted players, 7 high draft (1-2), 1 5th rounder.
            The 1st rounders were 5.

          • Johnnywad

            So half of their starting defense were 1st rounders?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Yeap. 5 of 11.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Hell no… he doesn’t fit Tampa 2 system.

      Lovie cut Revis for the same reason. He wouldn’t touch Chanellor today, as a proven, winning player.

      Lovie is a liability and a bum… the Bears loved him.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    I know you guys say Kaner a lot.”

    Alas, he’s on the shelf TFN. And boy, do the ‘Hawks miss him.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They’ll miss him in the playoffs. Now…they actually don’t, all that much.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Oh, really?

        Their “Power Play” recently went zip for 15 including an Ofer 4 against the Rangers last week against the Rangers at the UC.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Recently they scored 3 PP goals in consecutive games.

          Bottom line…they’re 5-1-1 without Kane, which is a much improved trend than before his injury.

          He was so dominant this season, everybody was deferring to him. They’re now going towards a full cylinder mode… everybody feels he has to step up.

  • List of top remaining FAs.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/03/15/michael-crabtree-tramon-williams-among-the-top-free-agents-left/

    Guys I hope come for bargain.
    1. C Wisknewski (I actually predicted we’d sign him before FA frenzy, and we’re still in the bidding)
    2. Rolondo McClain (he did well last year. Was it a fluke? I say, gamble on him. His measurables are outstanding, and he has experience in 3-4 and 4-3. More risk/reward than Foster, but fuck it.)
    3. Greg Hardy? I know he’s a 4-3 DE, but, wasn’t Mathis/Freeney too? Other questions – character/$$$

  • Irish Sweetness

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    Stefan Wiz is the guy for Bears at center. Don’t fuck around. Get him.

    > Yeah, if they’re going to slightly overpay anybody, I hope it’s a Center. Another year of Cutty is one thing, trying to do it with Garza in there is quite another. Mr. Wiz was only rated tenth best center by PFF, not terrible, but he’s only 25. Interesting that the other FA Center is the guy he replaced, Satele.

    Has anyone seen them play ?

  • Irish Sweetness

    Anyone watch the U?

    What’s this Perryman dude like? If he was there for our second round pick, wouldn’t that be sweet? Pass-rushing OLB in the first – or Williams, if his immaturity thing causes him to fall to #7 – then the ILB in the second. Throw in McPhee ….

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000479084/article/portis-denzel-perryman-can-fill-patrick-willis-void-on-49ers

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      If they don’t find an ILB I can see the Bears double dipping for that position.

      It’s the only position on the roster where there’s a hole. Every other position is covered.

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