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The Free Agency Notebook: Day 2

| March 12th, 2015

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COUGHLIN ON ROLLE

I sat next to Tom Coughlin on a flight once from New York to Jacksonville. The most amazing thing about him? He was as interested in me as I was in him. And it was genuine. He also knows quite a bit more about football and football players than I do. His thoughts on Antrel Rolle from the NY Daily News:

“I have never come across a player that was more interested in his team and trying to help his team get better in any way he could,” Coughlin said. “I think countless Tuesdays, Antrel was in my office with (questions about) how we can get better, what we can do to get better. Just thoughts going back and forth between coach and player in terms of how our team could improve. I don’t think I have ever been involved with a player who was more sincerely interested in how his team could improve.”

While I have issues about Rolle’s performance last season it is impossible to argue the Bears don’t need the man described above in their locker room.

WE’LL NEVER BE ROYAL

Eddie Royal is the perfect complementary receiver to Alshon Jeffery. And he is a phenomenal locker room presence as well. The Bears are building a team. (This video isn’t very good but I’m posting it anyway.)

AROUND THE LEAGUE

  • Chip Kelly is marching into 2015 with Sam Bradford at quarterback and Ryan Matthews at running back? Think he can get Danny Amendola from the Patriots? If you’re going to sign guys who never play, Amendola is a solid choice outside. (If I ran DaBirdsBlog.com this week I don’t think I would be able to churn out content fast enough. Kelly’s hatred of talented offensive players is spellbinding.)
  • Many were concerned about the Bears playing the AFC West next season. Be thankful the Bears are not playing the AFC East. The Bills defense? Great. The Jets defense should be the best in the league with their new assemblage of corners. The Dolphins defense was solid a year ago and just added one of the league’s three most dominant defenders. The weakest defense in the division is the Super Bowl champion. (These other teams in the AFC East haven’t noticed yet why the Patriots win so much, huh?)
  • Important Tweet from Dion Caputi: “Don’t mean to be a downer, but look at Bucs release of Michael Johnson (5-yrs, $45M) & Anthony Collins (5-yrs, $30M) as cautionary FA tales.”

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  • Irish Sweetness

    http://www.chicagobears.com/news/article-1/Pace-Cutler-will-remain-Bears-starter/1cbd9771-d689-45f5-aa3b-8c9f6340a970

    They never tried to shop Jay. That amazes me. You inherit a valuable painting but never have it appraised? I was wondering why all those QBs had moved before Cutty. He was never on the block. Amazing.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000478234/article/bears-gm-jay-cutler-is-our-starting-quarterback

    Billick on presser: We will hand the ball to Forte. We will not turn the ball over – even if we have to run it 50 times.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They need another starting type power running back.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Wasn’t there two guys who broke 400 yards in a single game this season? If we nabbed one of them in the second I wouldn’t cry a river. If we’re going to be running the ball as much as Fox suggests we are, then we need a pal for Matty. I like the sound of tough defense and three yards and a cloud of dust. Less heartbreak. You need to go long? Cutty to AJ/Uni. I can live with that.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I don’t know because I don’t follow college football. i wouldn’t mind a Gray type of player trade/sign.

        • SC Dave

          Melvin Gordon of Wisconsin was one. I’m leery of Wisconsin running backs.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Samaje Perine was the other.

          • Cormonster

            I’ve been watching Wisconsin churn out running backs for over 20 years, and I wouldn’t have drafted any of them until Gordon. Gordon is the real deal. He’s gonna be a star in the NFL barring injuries.

    • Well, no one has been banging the drum for a basher like ole Butch here, but Tresty was too much of a pussy. It’s a deep HB class. It really is. It’s been like 5 years since it’s been this good, maybe more.

      Here’s the top 5 according to NFP.

      Tevin Coleman, Melvin Gordon, Todd Gurley, Ameer Abdullah, Jay Ajayi

      http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/the-nfl-drafts-5-best-running-backs/

      That’s also not including some others like Duke Johnson or Yeldon.

      If one of them slides to the 3rd, we jump on him because all those aforementioned are better than the first HB drafted last year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Love me a banger, but we’d need a Center before anything could happen there. Gordon and Coleman both averaged 7.5 a carry I see. That’s got to be worth noticing. Could one of those be there when our second pick comes around?

        • That is a very real possibility.
          This year might have two HBs drafted in the first ( Most speculate Gordon and Gurley).
          That most likely means Coleman can be had at the top of the 2nd.
          I’m guessing, one of those will be there in the 2nd for us.

          2nd round (if we don’t get the top 3.) I’m guessing Abudllah, Ajayi might be locks.

          So in the 3rd, Duke Johnson or Yeldon might be there for us.

          Like I said, all those guys in previous drafts might arguably be 1st rounders.

          In the pre-HBs suck era, Gordon or Gurley might be top 5HBs.

          There’s also all these hungry little school HBs which I haven’t devled too deeply into, so value will be there in the 4rth and beyond too.

          Long story short, we MUST draft a HB IMO. When you can get 1st round value in the 3rd/4rth, that’s a no brainer.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Jets sign Fitzy to go with one of the best WR corps in football, Sign Revis and are going after Cromartie. A+

    • Big Mike

      Jets’ fans have to be delirious.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        All because Idzik was an excellent GM.

        • Big Mike

          Was he worse than Emery? I’d argue he was dramatically worse. Emery wasn’t great in my book, he wasn’t horrible. But his fatal flaw was selecting Trestman. I’m actually glad that he did select Trestman. I don’t suspect Emery was ever going to be a “Great” GM. Pace has that potential. My dream scenario for the front office is that we have Pace/Fox for a couple years, then promote one of our Coordinators to HC when Fox retires.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            To me Fangio is one of those guys that would be a great coordinator but a terrible HC like Marinelli. So hopefully it’s Gase.

          • Big Mike

            Hopefully he realizes that, I was just recognizing that both want to be HC. Gase – HC with Fangio as DC in the future would bode well for the Bears. It means everyone did their job well Pace/Fox/Gase & Fangio

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Both Emery and Idzik paid the price for accepting to work for losing, dysfunctional franchises.

            They both did great work.

          • Big Mike

            Idzik.. not so much. He had a very good coach in Rex Ryan and they fell apart. Emery simply screwed up with Trestman. I would not classify Emery’s work as great. I would say he was doing ok, and was improving. Most notably last year’s draft.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They both were forced fed HC they didn’t want. indzik never made it to chose his own guy, while Emery employed a bum.

          • After drafting Shea, my delusions of grandeur for Emery pretty much ended, but I was still hoping it was just rookie jitters.
            Then he drafted Hardin and Rodriguez…

          • Big Mike

            His 2nd draft was better and I suspect his 3rd draft would have worked out even better. Fuller, Sutton and Ferguson are going to be nice players. Sutton won’t fit for the Bears in a 3-4, but that’s not on emery.

    • huntinbare

      Nanny McPhee is a doctor….
      Apparently when he hits you you will need medical attention…

  • Big Mike

    I would argue the teams in the AFC East are building strong defenses, precisely because of the Patriots unique and historically efficient offense.

  • Is Miami’s D that upgraded from last year? They had to cut some solid guys to make room for Suh, and don’t have the $$ to replace them.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    1. Rolle is a huge leader, but he’s 32. He means so much for the Giants, but they let him go. Srange signing.

    2. The Patriots D might be the weakest defense in that division now, but it will not be by november.They are an underrated D every year.

    3. Bucs releases aren’t cautionary FA tales, but proof Lovie is a glorified bum HC and pathetic GM.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Indeed. Great guy he my be, but he’s 32. Why no move for 26 year old Rahim Moore? Are they thinking Landon Collins?

      If Lovie is putting Conte with Major Penis then I’m laughing my ass off. The very definition of insanity.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Rahim Moore is an average S that might not fit the scheme and type of player Fangio wants.

    • BerwynBomber

      I would still argue Lovie is a solid HC — at least he was in Chicago. The problem is he is a shit GM and personnel director.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        He won 2 times less money that the disaster called Greg Schiano.

        If that’s solid everybody’s solid.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Sounds to me that these signings are a way of bringing not just stability to the team but mentorship as well. Maybe Rolle is thinking about going into coaching when he’s done playing.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Same rationale with the Allen signing. They both fit all the intangibles, but they’re nearly done as important players.

    • SC Dave

      Assuming what Coughlin said about Rolle is true, the eviction of Brandon and welcoming of Antrel speaks volumes of what Fox and Pace intend.

      • It’s obvious Fox/Pace really emphasize intangibles and leadership (esp at the QB position, which is ironic).
        Considering the S market was barren (and the draft is thin at S too) I don’t mind Rolle, just as long as we take a swing at another S.

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Amendola is a good player when healthy, not to mention he knows Bradford, being a former Ram. I get the sense the Rams are cleaning house for their move to LA in 2016. I will not be surprised if they fire Fisher at the end of the 2015 season. The trade for Bradford is absolutely baffling. Bradford has yet to prove himself as a good QB. I for one, am glad to see him off the Rams, that team needs a lot of “new” added in to become a contender.

    Rolle and Royal make me happy, not crazy excited, but happy. I think they are both solid and good additions.

    • Sactowns#1

      Not happening. AEG has already realized there isn’t a strong desire to bring a team to town. They’ve already backed out.

      • Bears-4-Ever

        The AEG deal was pulled BECAUSE of Kroenke. His Inglewood project was approved by the county/city and is already breaking ground for the development. This doesn’t mean he has to build the stadium part of said development, but it seems to me he has every intention on doing just that and moving the Rams.

        If not then he can talk to the Chargers or Raiders. One thing Kroenke knows how to do is make money, trust me the stadium he builds will be filled with a team, my bet is still the Rams.

        From the below article:
        “Last month the Inglewood City Council voted unanimously to an 80,000-seat stadium at the proposed $4 billion development project that includes commercial space, housing and public parks.”

        http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/2015/03/09/plan-abandoned-plan-for-downtown-los-angeles-nfl-stadium/24678189/

  • Bears-4-Ever

    Does anyone get the sense that the NFL is slowly becoming like MLB in regards to trades? Seems the days of keeping players for a long time is fading away and the hiring of one or two season mercenaries is becoming the name of the game.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I feel like that has been going on for awhile now

    • BerwynBomber

      No, not in the least. Salary cap and revenue sharing. MLB basically has neither.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      It’s the natural flow of the reduced rookie salary limit and the 10 M/year Cap Space increase.

      Some teams have huge cap space and many big players want their share of the increased money coming in.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’ve just seen the winner of next year’s Cheltenham gold cup. Vautour. 8/1. Get on.
    He demolished a grade one field by 15 lengths. Unbelieveable. He’s a freak.

  • BerwynBomber

    One last thought on the presser yesterday: Ryan Pace is either a liar or incredibly dumb. Bears fan better hope it is the former. What concerns me is that the Fox hiring may have been an Acorsi move and now Acorsi has left the building.

    The FA signings seem okay but not attempting to shop Cutler is mind-boggling.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      People lie all the time at the presser….it’s not a tell-all campfire time with everyone sitting around holding hands. The fact is Jay is staying and trying to scrutinize a press conference about whether someone lied or not won’t change the outcome.

      • BerwynBomber

        The outcome is the outcome but non-denial denials and pleading the fifth are pretty standard in such settings.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          It’s all a psychological dance when it comes to what is publicly said. You really shouldn’t come out and throw people under the bus before even your first game. You are supposed to show support so that the team isn’t derailed before it starts. I don’t always agree with my wife on things but I still show support for what she believes in because I sure as in hell am not sleeping on the couch. Same for Pace….show support even though he doesn’t like it….don’t bring the entire house down over it. Figure it out, deal with it and move on.

          • BerwynBomber

            It is one day afterward. Chill with your efforts to censor the blog. If you don’t like discussing Pace’s presser, scroll up or down. Pretty easy to do.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Seriously? You’re trying to tell me to chill but you’re being obsessed about whether someone may or may have not lied. And where do you get that I am trying to censor anything?

          • burntorangenavyblue

            This is a new thread and topic. Would Jeff not writing a piece about the Pace presser be considered by you avoiding the subject as well ? I gave legitimate responses…nothing indicating censorship.

          • Scott W.

            Don’t sweat it. You made a sound argument.

          • Trac

            15 yd Personal foul penalty!
            Read that again dude, he was talking about Pace not throwing Cutler under the bus. You did to burnt what you accused him of doing. Some of you guys need to lighten up.

          • Scott W.

            You do know that by telling him to not say what he is, you’re engaging in the same censorship you’re accusing him of, right?

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I may have misread his final “move on” line. If so, my bad.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            It’s all good man

    • Optimistic Bears Fan

      I mean, what do you want him to say? “We did everything we could to get rid of Cutler, but literally no one in the league wants him, so I guess we’re stuck with him. Oh well.”

      • BearDown100393

        Actually yeah that works for me. Cutler is not worth the effort to lie. Might as well tell the truth because either way, he doesn’t care.

    • BearDown100393

      Yup Pace lied.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Question: what if the Titans rang Pace and said let’s do it. They don’t come to an agreement and nobody budges. Does that then entitle Pace to say we never tried to shop him? If he’s not the one that picks up the phone first, then maybe he can say that. I refuse to believe nobody wanted him given that Sam Bradford is an Eagle.

      • BerwynBomber

        Bradford only had one year remaining on his deal. Cutty has two.

        As bad as that deal looks for Philly, the most baffling QB move of all was the Clowns making the McCown the first QB taken in free agency.

        • willbest

          Eagles gave a lot more compensation for Bradford than you give for somebody you only plan on renting for 1 year. And really you aren’t going to trade for Cutler if you only plan on using him 1 year anyway.

          And Cutler doesn’t have nearly the risk Bradford does.

          • BerwynBomber

            Agreed. Cutty is a lot more durable. Who knows, apparently Kelly is sold on Bradford in his system.

            What do you mean a lot more compensation?

          • willbest

            They gave up
            Nick Foles
            11 million (the difference between Foles and Bradfords contract on the cap)
            30 odd spots in this years draft (4th for 5th)
            A second in 2016, and a conditional 3rd or 4th in 2016.

            That is a lot of scratch if you only plan on using a player for 1 year. Plus Bradford isn’t under contract for 2016 and beyond so if he does well you either have to pay him 19.5 mil on the tag or sign him to a deal (where he will ask for at least 40 mil in guarantees).

            With somebody like Cutler you don’t have to worry about the future because you have the contract he is going to retire on, or you can void it out after 2016

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I know about the former. I thought it was an awful Philly deal too.

            I’m not convinced Bradford will get as much even after one complete season. There still could be a lot of league-wide doubt about him.

          • Trac

            Sounds like Philly made the wrong guy move his office. I read somewhere that Philly demoted the personnel guy because he disagreed with Kelly’s player decisions. It’s gonna be fun watching them crash and burn.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            One of my close buddy is a die hard Eagles fan….he text bombed me the other day in a tirade venting out…..I had nothing good to say in return because how could I? It’s a terrible trade off for what the Eagles have done so far

          • Trac

            Poor guy.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Tell him to take a step back off the ledge. Kelly is just taking some resources from the O to improve the D, you know, the reason they were watching the Playoffs instead of participating in them. His offense will work with Sanchez/Bradford just fine. He’ll draft a little burner wideout to go with Jordan Matthews and KKK. They are about to sign DeMarco Murray. They still have Ertz/Celek. They’ll be fine.

    • Big Mike

      Quite possibly they didn’t need to. Offers came in. They didn’t need to go out looking. Could be simple semantics.

  • Barb UMihai Mar
  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Based on Rolle’s contract structure it looks like a 1yr./$5M deal. If he really has hit rock bottom in terms of ability/health, we can cut bait after this year with no cap ramifications.

  • BillW

    I haven’t had the time to research so I’m getting most of my news from you guys. Any more moves in the pipeline? I feel comfortable (see what I did?) with the moves so far.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I don’t think there will be major head-scratchers in FA…..the draft will be the thing to look out for surely

    • We still might snag another S

  • Scharfinator

    Looks like Lovie picked up Melton too.

    What a boys club. I feel like Lovie is stuck in 2010.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I’d be cringing if I were the Bucs owners but then again it’s the Bucs

      • BearDown100393

        The owners are just happy that nobody has contracted MRSA lately.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Haha…they must have spent too much money last year to afford someone to properly keep the locker rooms cleaned and disinfected

          • burntorangenavyblue

            But it does suck to get that really

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          It’s so humid here though that once that MRSA hit, it was extremely hard to get rid of.

    • BillW

      Adam Archuletta is waiting by the phone.

      • BearDown100393

        Might as well start recharging it.

    • John Doe

      He is bad at evaluating talent. Last year he spent 2nd highest in free agency and most of them turned out to be busts.

      So this year he is sticking to what he knows. Melton, Conte, Wright. Would not be surprised if Briggs also ends up there in another month or so on a 1 year deal.

      • BearDown100393

        He’ll bring back everyone but #6.

      • BerwynBomber

        Or Peanut.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I cringe at the thought of Conte trying to hit somebody with a shoulder.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          It will happen, sooner than later

          • AlbertInTucson

            …and it will be ugly.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Think Dan Bauzin and Mike Okwo are available.

      • SC Dave

        Maybe Dusty Dvorcek would try a comeback?

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          You think Marcus Harrison has lost weight?

    • he’s grabbing all the Bears players he can, except the 4 who made him successful (Urlacher, Briggs, Tillman, Peppers) are all either no good anymore or under contract elsewhere.

      • BillW

        I do think Briggs will end up there. Dont remember about Peanut – is he a FA?

        • yeah, they’re both FA. Neither are close to what they were in their primes under Lovie though. Father Time remains undefeated.

        • willbest

          Lovie passed on Tillman last year. I doubt he is going to offer him a shot this year after a 2nd tricep injury

      • Big Mike

        Melton makes sense. He was a rising star until he got hurt. His injury is in the past. He could re-ascend this year.

        • Scharfinator

          He could, but it is unlikely. I’m afraid his career will mirror Tommie Harris’. Which is too bad, I like Melton as a guy.

          • Big Mike

            I thought he started to show a burst last year that was reminiscent of his potential. Talk about a guy who got Franchise Tagged and lost. He could have had a multi year deal, but he gambled.

    • SC Dave

      Yeah… but maybe that loyalty is why the old Bears all said how much they loved Lovie.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        That’s definitely a problem for any new coaching regime and it sucks

      • Scharfinator

        Maybe. Makes happy players, but seems like it doesn’t help make good teams.

  • John Doe

    Fox and Pace bringing the hammer down.. And now we know the number 1 reason why Marshall got the boot.


    BEARDOWN NYC @SCAR_179NY · 3m3 minutes ago
    #Bears coaching staff are letting the team know that they will not be allowing the players to have their own radio or television shows! WOW

    • willbest

      This seems like pandering to me tbh. Jay probably didn’t want to do his show anymore.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        This could help or not help…maybe this is the answer to Jeff’s piece about the over-saturation of the media and Cutler and the distraction that comes with it.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I did enjoy listening to Slauson on Erik and Kathy on 101.9 along with Sharpe…made going to work easier

      • BerwynBomber

        Yep, can’t say I’m bothered by guys doing local shows, though I was surprised Bostic had one on both the Score and CLTV last year. Bostic???

    • BillW

      Including things like Cutty on waddle/silvy?

      • willbest

        Waddle said he didn’t think Jay would be back next year. And Silvy is acting like a girl with his behind the back passive aggressive BS over Cutler sending Long instead of doing the show after one of those losses.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Interesting….never thought that someone who is an NFL player would ever have the time for that considering the demands and scheduling of having an NFL life. Guest appearances are fine, but it’s crazy for the amount of money they get paid to play that they would not be 100 percent into their dream job…

      • BearDown100393

        Football is Cutler’s dream job?

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Sad I know…..many players are like this unfortunately

      • willbest

        Why do you think football is a dream job rather than just a job that a person is particularly good at.

        I don’t mind my job, and when I am on the clock I give 100%. But when its my time. I don’t live what I do. Why should any other person.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          Just saying for the amount of money they get as opposed to the average joe and they get to play a sport.

          • willbest

            They get paid that much because they have a rare talent that other people want. I don’t see where that equates to some sort of special obligation. And they don’t play a sport. They compete. There is a big difference in personal cost to ones body between playing and competing.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If I’m paying all that scratch to my QB, I expect after hours dedication. He’s not clocking in at a factory.

        • Irish Sweetness

          A real professional doesn’t really take a ‘day off’ though. Like Conor McGregor in the UFC. He trains til late at night every day, ready to take a fight at a moment’s notice. If Jay watched more tape, especially of himself, he would get better. Same for Sweetness – he just made sure he trained harder than everybody else. Training for Jay means watching tape, not doing shows or suit-fittings or shopping for curtains with Kristin.

        • Big Mike

          It’s a mindset. Dialing back all the extra-curricular activity. My hunch, next year if the team performs and behaves, exceptions will be made.

        • burntorangenavyblue

          They get several months off in the year to do whatever they like. Spending a dozen or more hours trying to go back and forth on something that takes an hour to do is surely not a productive way of enjoying your “day” off. I respect the fact that he is able to branch out and do other things than football….but I think that with the way the rules are set up for players, how much could Marshall and other current players say or talk about things more than is necessary without getting into trouble by their team and NFL?

          I enjoy listening to the former players turned analysts because they can divulge as much as what they want to say to the media/show and it’s interesting.

          • willbest

            No the way Marshall talked had you questioning his motivation while on the clock though his actions while on the clock seemed to indicate he brought it. Though he and Cutler clearly weren’t on the same page for a several of those throws.

            As for the time off. Its less than you think. Its not like when you are a kid and don’t have squat to do between June 1 and Sept 1. A lot of it is spent rehabbing their body, and maintaining form and shape, getting stronger, running drills. And then during season its not your standard 9-5. They are punching 10-12+ hour days while on special diets, missing holidays with their family, working weekends, etc.

      • SC Dave

        This!!

    • BillW

      So much for Jeff’s hope of a Rolle show

    • SC Dave

      Focus on football. Me likery.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Those are perks for winners.

  • Ososfan

    The most important tweet by Jeff to date: “Looking for artist/illustrator to execute 2015 t-shirt. @reverenddave & I have cool concept but need artist. Email me: jeff at dabearsblog.” Let’s go! Come on blog fam, get to messaging him to make this happen!

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Bears have roughly $21M in salary cap left when you account for the draft class but not Royal/McPhee. If Royal’s cap hit this year is $4M, McPhee is at $8M (just speculating) and budgeting $3M for in season emergencies; then that leaves about $6M left to sign FA’s this year. I wouldn’t be against structuring McPhee’s deal slightly unbalanced, pushing a little more of his g’teed $16M into next year, but only in a $6M/$10M split. You have to figure J. Allen isn’t on this team next year, that opens up his salary slot for McPhee and gives you some flexibility to bring in one or two more mid-level guys this year.

    • willbest

      Any vets signed after the first week will likely be at or near vet min, which means they won’t affect the cap. Bears already have more than 51 players under contract which means any person that makes the team will replace somebody already counting towards the cap.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah but any vested veterans that are cut after week 1 also would have had their salaries guaranteed so they will be dead cap hits which count no matter what not even considering any unamortized signing bonuses, that junk adds up. Plus if there is anyone good we want to trade for (unlikely) we would need some cap space. Also, if we don’t use it, we can roll it to 2016, it may offset guys that met performance based incentives.

    • I’m guessing McPhee’s is slightly backloaded, with maybe like a $5-6M cap hit this year to free up an extra $2-3M.

      • either way, they only really need an ILB and DE still in FA, at least in terms of guys who will get decent contracts. Neither likely to be much more than $3M a year anyway, IMO.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I was hoping for a vet CB, but that market is too pricey.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I’m hoping he gets all $16M in the 1st two years, kinda how they did the Houston contract except without a signing bonus. Just give him a g’teed roster bonus, No need to worry about dead money in years 3-5 if he doesn’t pan out.

        • typically most gtd. money in first 2-3 years, but a signing bonus would prorate over all 5.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That proration in years 3-5 is dead money if he needs to be cut. This is a way for Pace to stay out of the cap hell he had in NOLA.

          • NewBearInTown

            A little bit of dead money isn’t a big deal. With cap inflation and the ability to plan, $1M of dead money in a year or two is worth $2M this year. You just need to make sure not to overleverage.

          • inflation is not going up THAT quickly.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Or by that percent either, lol

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That kinda thinking comes back to haunt you if the cap flattens out like it did from 2009-13.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The Bears have 30 M of cap space today.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        You’re not including Rolle.

        • Scott W.

          I think I accidentally flagged you. Just pretend you did something heinous.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Titi Balls!

          • Scott W.

            Oh yeah, that validates my flag up and down the pole!….ah, no…wait….nevermind…

  • John Doe

    Chicago Sports News @ChiSportUpdates · 5m5 minutes ago
    BREAKING NEWS: Two sources: The Bears are close on a 3 yr deal with Mason Foster.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      That’s so dumb.

      • Big Mike

        why?

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Because Mason Foster sucks moose wang.

          • Big Mike

            isn’t that an upgrade? Seriously, I don’t know anything about him.

          • John Doe

            May be Bears think they can get most out of him for cheap…

            Jen Lada @JenLada 44m44 minutes ago
            New Bears DB coach Ed Donatell was Foster’s Def Coordinator at Washington in 2008. LB was Huskies defensive MVP that season.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Yeah, 3 years for cheap, to help hold over and keep bodies on the team while Bears forge new path. I don’t think it really matters as long as we’re not selling the farm during the next few years.

          • Big Mike

            Yep. Need to field a team. 🙂

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            ahhaha.

            The ‘wait for Rogers to retire’ plan.

          • Big Mike

            I wouldn’t say that, but our rebuilding does line up with that time frame.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            This is the sequel to “The Replacements”….gonna be a lot of unknowns out there that we will probably come to love because they will play scrappy and hopefully be down to earth people.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            No, he played for the Bucs the last 4 years. He’s not been good. I will say though that the Bucs put him in the MLB role in their D and he couldn’t figure it out. Hopefully it was just a case of being miscast and he is a better fit in the 3-4. He has the physical tools to be a serviceable ILB in a 3-4, but so does Jon Bostic, seems like roster duplication to me.

          • Big Mike

            Looking at his stats, he’s been on the field a lot. Not a fit for Lovie’s D possibly. Also, it’s not like we are bringing him in here to be #54. We need fresh competition at LB. Depends on what they spent for him.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Eye test, I’ve watched him for 4 years. Anything over 1 yr. $1.5M is too much.

          • Big Mike

            fair enough. let’s see what we paid.

          • Yes, BearDown is our Florida regional scout, Mike.

          • Big Mike

            Is Bear Down also scouting rejected, old ass Bears for the Tampa?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Fuck me !!!

      • Big Mike

        Easy now. Need to put together a roster. Depends on what he costs. Just another guy on the squad.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Who?

    • burntorangenavyblue

      John, is Chicago Sports a reliable source? I’m only wondering only because you have posted many different tweets on here. I can’t keep track of them all, haha.

  • Irish Sweetness

    I’m not feeling Ryan Pace right now, I know there’s a long way to go and we’re only two days in, but it’s the vibe. Nanny looks like a good signing. But …

    1. If you knew two weeks ago that one player out of Cutty and BM would be on the roster next year – who would you have wanted?

    2. If you knew he was going to sign a safety, would you want a 32 year old or an up and comer like Moore?

    3. Do you want to go to war with Jay Ratlif or Fatty mcFat bastard Knighton ?

    4. If you knew Fitzy was to be had for a 6th/7th rounder would you take him and ship Cutty’s salary, face, and have another – or higher – picks?

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I think he’s just being very careful and smart. He is pretty young and he’s making a name for himself and others of his age that are at that level of leadership in the league (as well as for other sports). I’m not saying all decisions are “smart” per say, but he’s not going to be reckless with how he goes about making said decisions.

      It’s been pretty quiet on the FA front for this team…I have a feeling that draft day is where they are going to be making huge impact. I hope it’s trading down for more picks. There are several teams that will always take the bait of jumping up in the draft to secure a pick. If Fox is going to be here for only a few years, then they will make the picks to build this team up readying it up for one of his protege or up and coming coaches that he is connected with. Who knows….

      • Irish Sweetness

        Kevin Costner styl-ee?

    • AlbertInTucson

      I question the assumption that there was much, if any, of a market for Cutler and his contract beyond the “we’ll take him for next to nothing or just wait and see if you just cut him”.

      There was all that Tennessee buzz that included Jake Locker and “Poof”. Locker’s joined the “I’m too young to feel this old” club and retired.

    • DaCoaches Mustache

      I do not get your raging Fitzpatrick boner.

      • it’s the beard.

        chicago is cold.

        beards keep faces warm.

        warm faces don’t throw game-ending INTs.

        it’s science.

      • Sactowns#1

        The guy is good. He has a heck of an arm.

      • maybe confusing him for Danica Patrick?

      • Irish Sweetness

        Play with this. 37 QBs in history have thrown 6 TDs in one game. Fitzy’s one of them and that was only last year. Rated 95 on a shitty team. Smartest guy in the NFL. Not bad for about what, 5M?

        He’s only 32, and I’d take him over Sanchez/McCown, Hoyer. But if they decided to keep Cutty then he was never an option. Pace/Fox haven’t got the balls to rebuild without a ‘franchise’ QB i.e. somebody who has the appearance of being a franchise QB. Shifting Cutty would have given us more cap and a juicy pick, or picks, with which to improve the team. By doing nothing and keeping him, he is hurting the team.

        Pace has no stones. No sand. Danger Will Robinson. Danger.

    • BerwynBomber

      Your first three points are valid. In regard to #4, who knows if there was any serious interest in Cutler. His reputation and salary, especially the two year assumption of it, may have been too prohibitive.

      I did find Pace’s “we never shopped him” line odd. Seemed unnecessarily declarative if false; troubling if true.

      So far he has hired an excellent coaching staff, failed to get rid of Cutler (or decided to keep him, depending on what you believe) and signed what seem to be competent FAs. So … an incomplete (but leaning toward a B)?

      • Irish Sweetness

        To me it was the biggest issue of the off-season. ‘What happens to Cutty’. They did nothing. They stepped around the 600lb gorilla instead.

  • Money out on Pernell McPhee deal: https://twitter.com/RavensInsider/status/576059961672888320
    Basically, it breaks down like this:
    2015: $6.675M cap hit, all gtd.
    2016: $7.675M cap hit, all gtd. if on roster 4th day of league year
    After that, the cap hits go up a bit, but only $500k/year is guaranteed (prorated portion of $2.5M signing bonus).
    So between that and Rolle, Bears still have about $12-13M to work with after you account for rookies and wiggle room. That’s pending Royal though.

    • Irish Sweetness

      So that should be at 30M right now with an extra top pick. They screwed the pooch on this. We’re repeating the same behaviour by going with Cutty and expecting different results … and doing it without Brandon, remember.

  • AlbertInTucson
    • burntorangenavyblue

      At least players are armed more with the knowledge of knowing when it is time to retire instead of their wheels (and brain) falling off too late in life. Best luck to him in whatever he pursues

    • willbest

      If you are 28 years old and have 3 million in the bank, you can sit on your butt the rest of your life and live an upper middle class existence. Or you could blow through it in 3 years being foolish.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Yeah, that kind of spending amazes me…..

        • AlbertInTucson

          Well, I’m betting you don’t have an entourage or and army of hanger-ons to support.

      • AlbertInTucson

        True. Unfortunately, the evidence suggests that the former is a distinct minority to the latter.

    • BearDown100393

      This will trend upward. Risk vs reward. The NFL does not value its veterans. If fortunate, a player gets 2 opportunities at a financial windfall: A. signing bonus after the draft, B. free agency. The contracts are not fully guaranteed. The players union is probably the worst in professional sports and hardly a reliable retirement asset. The owners don’t care about your general welfare. And neither does the commissioner who has done everything legally possible to deny future disability/injury once retired. Better to walk out on both feet than be carried out. Diagnosis of CTE+ not worth it for a few extra dollars.

      • willbest

        Only the first 2 rounds of the draft have anything approaching establishment money. Well round 3 too if you aren’t giving 15% to an agent. Most guys are looking to their 25/26 year old contract as their 1 and only pay day.

        • Big Mike

          and.. A $5million contract gets eaten up pretty fast by agents, special state by state taxes on athletes, taking care of a few family members. Figure less than 1/2 hits their bank. still pretty good bread. The best move is to to defer the income as much as possible. Tell me a 23 year old can’t live large on $200k take home, and defer the rest. Hit the 2nd contract, release a few bucks into circulation, up the allowance to $400k. Defer the balance. Self Directed IRA, medical IRA, 529s for college. All set.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            thats not much money for bling and strippers.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            and ex’s and child support, if you have like 10 of them

        • BearDown100393

          Agreed. Reason why I wrote “if fortunate”. The NFL is a meat grinder.

          • Big Mike

            I love football more than any sport, so don’t get me wrong. But if there was a choice, Baseball is the move. outside when its warm, can start getting some $ early in life, career length, salary size, salary structure. Football career risk reward is terrible.

          • BearDown100393

            I think as fans of all sports, we underestimate the realities facing
            most athletes pursuing the pro dream. Baseball is no exception. For
            every one player “living the dream in the show” (money, fame,
            endorsements, long career, etc), 100s of other guys go through the
            minors never getting a whiff of earning a living playing ball. The
            conditions of lower level minor ball are hardly ideal. The contrast is
            striking and the MLB clubs could do better for these guys but choose not
            to do so. I do agree that the comparison, baseball wins out.

          • Big Mike

            The beauty of baseball is there are two paths to keep playing. Minor League or College. From College, there are progressions, from rookie league and low A all the way up to AAA. At the bottom tiers, its about proving yourself and the game, not the money. But you get a shot to find out if you could or should keep going. In football there are 1700 jobs that pay. The end. All pro sports have a wicked funnel. Football has the lowest reward and the most risk.

            Here is an excerpt from something I wrote for the youth football league that I coach in.

            In the 2013-2014 school year 1,122,024 boys played HS
            Football. 90,136 played at any level of college (8%) 27,467
            were on a Division 1 (FBS or FCS) roster (2.44%). This includes JV,
            Redshirt, reserve and practice squad/scout team players. Taking out
            the non-scholarship players Division 1 had 18,754 players on scholarship
            (1.67%). Of the scholarship athletes 30% do not travel, leaving 13,128
            players 1.1% In a typical game 2/3rds of the travel roster will see the
            field 8,756/.078%. Of this group 300 will make an NFL Roster
            0.027%. This is roughly 1 in 3,700. Which is 19% less likely than
            being struck by lightning in your lifetime, or about the odds of being hit by
            falling space debris.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Good stuff

          • Big Mike

            The context was to provide our coaching staffs with tools to speak to the parents of an 8 year pee wee football player who was plotting that child’s path to the NFL.

          • BearDown100393

            Great post.

    • Yes, Worlids retiring snuck under the FA frenzy.

      I mean, he could’ve got a multi-million deal, perhaps a little less then McPhee.
      That’s not chump change.
      I don’t know if I would be able to turn down $4-5M for one year.

  • SC Dave
    • burntorangenavyblue

      He definitely deserves to stay on this team. He’s a classy guy and I can see him being a great mentor to anyone that the Bears draft to compliment him and/or be his successor one day.

    • burntorangenavyblue

      Yeah, I think the Bears will surely gain more by keeping him than by getting rid of him in many ways.

      1) He has produced above and beyond through several regime changes. This tells me that he is an extremely smart guy who probably has what it takes to be a great mentor for anyone coming in to compliment him and/or replace him.

      2) Although business is business, I think that if Forte continues to be an outstanding person on and off the field, I think that it would be important that the Bears have a player like Forte retire as a Bears. The PR as of late for ex-players is getting silly and we need to start having ex-players to become life-time supporter of all aspects of Chicago culture.

      • He’s definitely a good guy and productive. But I don’t recall a (recent) HB playing his entire career with only one team.
        Usually, that HB overestimates his value or the team is unsentimental about dumping him (or both). Just look at Gore and McCoy as recent examples.

        • SC Dave

          The Gore thing would be more a surprise were San Francisco not in bozo mode dumping their entire roster in the toilet.

          Harbaugh must have really fucked that place up.

        • Irish Sweetness

          The idea that Matt Forte is somehow the second coming of sweetness is bemusing to me. He’s productive, I get it. Will he be useful to us in two or three years when we’re supposedly in a position to run ? That’s the thing. It doesn’t benefit us anything to be paying him 8M a year until he retires, when we can trade him now, ditch the contract and get a return on our investment.
          The “he’s our best player” argument is moot after we sold Brandon off for a bag of peanuts. The Cowboys traded Herschel. Deion was traded. Joe Cool was traded. It means nothing being the best player. It’s a business. Buy low. Sell high if you can. Returns on investment. Value. Sentimentality has nothing to do with it.

    • you’ve really changed your tune since you were leading the charge to get rid of him when they were negotiating his contract after that knee injury.

      • Scharfinator

        I think you may have him confused with someone else.

        • i was making jokes.

          because until there’s something good on the field, jokes are the only thing we’ve got.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      The article states, “The Bears selected Ka’Deem Carey in the fourth round of last year’s draft. He did little to show he could be Forte’s successor, running for 156 yards on 36 carries.”

      Two things:
      1) 156yds on 36car is 4.3 YPC, although a limited sample 4.3YPC is nothing to sneeze at.

      2) Whose fault was it that he did little? Not his, he did the most with the carries he was given, Trestman is to blame for not working him in more.

      • Coudn’t agree more. I am no Carey fan (though I did love Ace Ventura), but he looked to have more acceleration than he did in the college tape I saw of him.
        Still think he’s merely a JAG, but both him and Clausen should’ve been given more looks once that team threw in the towel.

      • SC Dave

        I was not, and am not, ready to ditch Carey before he gets a shot in camp. I was merely pointing out that I consider it idiocy to propose trading your best player for a mid-round draft pick. It’s crazy stupid. Not accusing you of holding that position, BDiT, but it HAS been advanced on this blog, and often. It boggles my mind.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Who suggested that?
          If you get offered a second then it’s definitely worth considering, that’s what you paid for him! Selling a depreciated asset for it’s purchase value? It’s insane not to consider that. We’re not capable of winning anything over the next two years, so really, all he’s doing is making your draft picks lower.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Didn’t he score 44 TDs in college in two years?

    • Irish Sweetness

      I want my HB to do one thing well … RUN THE BALL. Get me a damn yard when I need it.

      1. Matt’s not fast anymore.
      2. He’s not Marshawn Lynch between the tackles.
      3. Your HB should NOT be catching 100 passes!
      4. We mightn’t be able to get a pick for him when he’s 30, especially when he’s about to be worked harder this season.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Royal 3yrs/$15M, $10M fully g’teed.

    • willbest

      That is #2 kind of money.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah, it’s less than Welker got a few years back though, so even if he’s a slot guy I feel good about it.

      • Waffle

        He’s effectively the #2 WR……
        I wonder who the other WR will be? Marquis or Josh? Double TE sets with Martellus and the greatest TE never to play a game in Z.Miller?

        • Big Mike

          Z. Miller – All Pre-season team. Poor bastard. Hope he gets a shot to find out if he’s got it. Who’s 2 has replaced last year’s Who’s 3 question. Hopefully with more results. I don’t think Royal’s ever lined up as the 2. Not in the NFL anyhow.

          • Waffle

            He’s our slot but will definitely get a lot of looks. If I’m the OC I implore Forte to get another 1.5yds of depth on his dumpoff routes and run a lot of crossing patterns underneath in space with Royal.
            Forte was the king of catching dumpoffs and getting 3yds then tackled. Just get more depth and make it a 5yd play….or be Murray or McCoy and make them 9yd plays.

          • Big Mike

            It’s not like we are without weapons. Bennet, Forte, Alshon, Royal. That’s 2-3 more than Lovie ever had. The dumpoffs were covered because nobody stretched the defense. Jay was also uncharacteristically inaccurate with quite a few to Forte. They were completed, but not in stride.

          • SC Dave

            Yeah, this.

          • Big Mike

            Inevitably, by the time the first game rolls around, I will have convinced myself this is a 10 win team with a chance to advance past the WC round. At the end of the last game, last season, 3 wins would have been my forecast. You have to hand it to the NFL the offseason does this to every team’s fans year in and year out.

          • SC Dave

            Forte would make them 9 yard plays had he a QB that throws the ball in the right place.

          • Waffle

            Dave, tweaking the dump routes and calling Forte a pussy are two separate things. I think tweaking the routes a bit to make them 4 to 5yd catches in the worst case scenario is not a bad thing. It’s easily tweaked by the coordinator. Like when Bennett was misused in 2013 and then used correctly in 2014…that’s a good tweak considering the entire locker room would make fun of Bennett and his 2yd routes into the flat….until he was used like a big slow WR that couldn’t run routes….uh….then you get fired Tresty. Tangent Alert!

          • Irish Sweetness

            I just checked that out, he’s got a pretty good average, fairly standard around 7, which is amazing given his 102 receptions last season. Still a couple of yards behind a guy like Sproles, but still good.

          • Miller was a BEAST in that preseason game. Didn’t he reel in like 3 TDs and like 12 catches?
            then, kaboom. the clock struck midnight.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He looked like a baller to me. Dude can catch a football.

          • Big Mike

            Don’t know the stat, but for a week this blog was dizzy with thought of Forte, Alshon, Marshall, Bennet AND Miller.

        • Don’t forget Midfield Mariani!

          • Waffle

            haha, joe anderson?

        • Irish Sweetness

          Marquess Wilson a #2? He still has to prove he deserves a roster spot IMO.

      • Scharfinator

        He is the #2. Is that what you are implying? Because then I agree.

        • willbest

          He is the #3 and returner

          • Big Mike

            When did we pick up a #2?

          • willbest

            We haven’t as far as I am aware.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Harvin is still available.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Evan Mathis is available, Ben Grubbs was just traded for a 5th rounder, I’d do a 5th rounder for Mathis and kick Long over to T.

    Bushrod, Slauson, De La Puente/draft pick (hoping he signs here), Mathis, Long

    We can get that power run game going.

    Also, I just ran the numbers looks like if Royal’s cap hit this year is $5M Bears have $13M in cap room with the draft class figured in, not counting wiggle room.

    • Mathis is 33 and expensive. Better fit for a contender in must-win-now mode like the Broncos, IMO.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I keep forgetting we aren’t in that mode.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That’s not a lot. Fuck Ryan pace and his tiny little hairless grapes.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Is he good? A 5th is worth if it you can shore up your line …. and Garza absolutely cannot be the Center this year. It’s ridiculous. Mills can’t be involved either. We move big boy to RT and find a guard and a center.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Murray to the Eagles…not surprised

    • burntorangenavyblue

      I wonder whether Ryan Mathews will sign or not?

  • Jack Lacan

    Jack Nicholson — “Here’s Jay!!!”…

    • burntorangenavyblue

      What?….

      • BillW

        quoting The Shining”?

        • burntorangenavyblue

          I know what he’s quoting, but not sure why he’s saying it now and it kinda falls flat

          • BillW

            Can’t help there.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I just can’t sit thru The Shining.

      • Jack Lacan

        Sorry – but I thought about The Shining and Nicholson saying “Here’s Johnny!” and that he might have said “Here’s Jay,” which would have surprised Bears fans. I think.
        Strange, yet true.

      • Jack Lacan

        Apologies for flat and irrelevant remark…just musing this afternoon…nothing much to comment on — except articles by A.E.I. shills in the New York Times…

        • burntorangenavyblue

          It’s cool

  • burntorangenavyblue

    Watching Big 10 tourney at the UC…..since Chicago is Big 10 headquarters, makes me sad to see that they do not play their football championship at Soldier Field. Get on it Chicago, geez!

    • willbest

      If they built a nice 80k seat domed stadium out in Hoffman Estates or Arlington Heights they might consider it. But 55k seat with frigid lake winds, on partially frozen clay… not so much.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Don’t forget the broken sprinkler head! That adds a certain charm to the place.

        • Big Mike

          And the fantastic set up for bathrooms. 1 per 5,000

    • Big Mike

      Should play it at Northwestern, until they put turf in at Soldiers.

  • burntorangenavyblue

    FML….Frozen 2 is a “go” for Disney

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Let it go…

      • burntorangenavyblue

        Haha….I work with children and it drove me nuts with them quoting this movie

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          I have a daughter, she wants to watch the movie at least 3 times a day. I don’t think I’ll be telling her about Frozen 2.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            LMAO, some possible Frozen 2 “titles” that people are putting out there are hilarious….

            2 Fast 2 Frozen
            Fro2en

          • Big Mike

            That shit’s like crack for 2 and 3 year old girls. Mine are grown, but I was at a thing with some young coaches and their families. It was hell. 20-30 of them running around singing Let it go or something like that.

          • burntorangenavyblue

            I want some Wreck It Ralph or The Incredibles sequel damn it! How is The Lego Movie? Recommended?

          • Watched Lego Movie last weekend. It was funny. Nothing special.

          • willbest

            Honest Trailers ruined Lego Movie for me. Having my 5 year old next to me during the “staring” section going. “I want that” “and that” “and that” “and that” “and that” “and that” “and that” is a buzz kill.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGXsVHkhrk

          • burntorangenavyblue

            Uhhh, lol

          • Irish Sweetness

            In my head I’m always a hair away from picking them up by the ears and screaming “YOU WANT EVERY FUCKING THING YOU SEE!!!”. And then we calm down the anti-marketing psycho part of our brain and pat them on the head ‘ yes sweetheart’.

            It’s interesting that when Star Wars was being touted, Allan Ladd jr gave the merchandising rights to Lucas. Who cares about that shit? And now movies are almost entirely about selling products. The Lego movie is a classic. Toy Story I-XII another. My kids want a Buzz lightyear toy to this day. I’d have to work for three days to buy one here. They see them in the department store and they think I’m just being a cheap bastard.

            Toys, alcohol and cigarettes should not be advertised.

          • Irish Sweetness

            They’re all great. The Lego movie is funny, or starts that way anyway. The song is called “Everything is awesome (everything’s cool when you’re part of a team)”. You’ll be singing it under your breath and people without kids will be looking at you like you were deprived of oxygen at birth. I love the bad guys anonymous meeting in Wreck-it Ralph where all the video game badguys are sharing. Despicable Me 1 and 2 are good too. Minions rock.

            Peabody and Mr. Sherman is good too, the twins love it and it’s slightly highbrow just for the adults. Peabody is a dog who invents a time machine and adopts a human son. Pitch that one, right?

          • Irish Sweetness

            It is crack. And all around the world, ever fkn thing is merchandised with it. For me it really is the modern Star Wars for little girls.

          • Johnnywad

            Wait til she finds out you’ve kept it from her. Sleep with one eye open thereafter.

          • Irish Sweetness

            “Download it Daddy!”
            My kids don’t know what a cinema is.

    • not really surprising. Disney milks everything it can for every possible dollar.

      • EnderWiggin

        Which makes makes me somewhat leery and excited about Star Wars.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I know, right ?
          I do not want to walk out of that cinema with gritted teeth going “He doesn’t get it …. CHEWBACCA’S NOT A FAG!”

          Who did JJ Abrams blow? He gets handed the star trek AND star wars franchises. That’s like being President of the USA & Russia.

    • willbest

      I wonder if there are going to be any positive male role models in this one. Oh wait, its a Disney movie nevermind.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        To be fair, at least Elsa kept her sister from marrying someone that she fell in love with right away, unlike many other Disney movies.

        I may have gotten the character names mixed up? I dunno

        • willbest

          How does Elsa’s behavior have any bearing on the lack of positive male role models in Disney princess films?

        • Irish Sweetness

          I don’t think they’ve made a real movie since Bambi.

          Baby deer, cute skunk, fluffy bunny rabbit, happy tweet tweet birdies …..
          … BANG! YOUR MOM’S DEAD ! HOW ‘BOUT THEM APPLES, BITCH!

      • Irish Sweetness

        Luke’s beard is cool. I’m not going to enjoy Han Solo though. I’m grown up now and I know that Harrison Ford is a dick.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Wait til I tell the twins …… Anna and Elsa are what Chewbacca and Darth Vader were to me.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Eddie Royal numbers are in, no signing bonus:

    2015: $1.5M full g’teed base, $4M g’teed roster bonus/Cap hit=$5.5M
    2016: $4.5M full g’teed base/Cap hit=$4.5M
    2017: $5M base (non g’teed)/Cap hit=$5M

    Essentially 2yrs/$10M

    Love it!!

    • and that gives them about $9M to work with still, after accounting for draft picks (~$3M after the rule of 51 applies) and $3M extra into training camp for inseason transactions.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Kenny Stills is available, if they’ll take a 3rd for him, I’m in!

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      My first offer would be a 4th tho and hope they take it.

      • burntorangenavyblue

        I’d rather the Bears keep their number of draft picks because what’s the point if they are rebuilding? They are bringing in journeymen players anyways from FA so we need to continue rebuilding and not give up anything more. His stats for having Brees as his quarterback aren’t really impressive enough to give up that 4th rnd pick.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          He’s 22 and still on a cheap contract for 2 years. He’s a guy you can build with.

        • Irish Sweetness

          For me, we needed to get rid of Allens’/Cutty’s contracts, and get the pick for jay. Looks like neither will happen. Pace is hedging.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    After factoring in draft class Bears are currently sitting at roughly $12.5M in cap room based on the Top 51 rule.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      extending Forte would open up another 4-5 M.

      • I don’t think we should extend him now.
        After the year he had last season, and the semi-outrages contracts handed out to Lynch, McCoy, etc – I think Forte will have more leverage.
        Let the HB market cool down for another year while Forte gets 1yr older (and is spelled – so less production) and see what his market is next off-season.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Negative.

          This isn’t about lowballing Forte with the extension money. It’s about not paying him $8 M this year.

          A 3 years/16 M/ 8 M guaranteed would be a win-win. It’s more than Ryan Matthews and Frank Gore received.

          • But why wouldn’t you want to pay him $8M this year, unless you have a plan to use that extra $ to get a certain FA, or planning on rolling it into next season.
            Are you talking about converting his cap hit into a bonus or something?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            There are 3 options: pay him the $8 M he’s due, cut him or extend him.

            I’m saying ‘pay him the 8 M but extend him for another 2 years ‘.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Because you could draft this Tevin Coleman dude.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r32w8hF9PTM

            See that burst? That’s what Forte hasn’t got.

        • Irish Sweetness

          We’re going to ride him into the ground this year, or so Fox has intimated. He may be worth nothing next year. If you can get what you paid for a depreciated asset, you sell. It’s a no-brainer. Anyone can carry a ball as far as he carries it. He’s losing speed too.

    • I think they leave about $2-5M in “emergency $).
      Also, the roster is up to 55 now instead of 53 I think.
      We might be able to sign one mid range FA, or a few vet min FAs .
      I’m still hoping we sign Peanut for cheap.

      • NewBearInTown

        Wait for it, some good players will get cut in the next few weeks. We need size on the defensive line and we need a right tackle. Expect both of those moves to happen before the season starts. Likely at least one more offensive weapon as well.

        • I sorta agree with Barb on the RT front though.
          I wanna see Ola, Leno or even Groy compete with Mills (who might have just been hurt).

          I’m also not certain that they’re not moving Long to RT.
          In which case, all those guys will be competing for OG.

          Personally, I would try to draft a C/OG/OT.
          Traditionally, they can be drafted in the later rounds (esp C), and we gotta save $ somewhere.

          • Irish Sweetness

            If Cutty is staying here,then Allen/Forte saves you 20M and you get a pick for Matt. Any fool we draft is going to get you the same yards on the ground, and we’re not going anywhere anyway.

          • willbest

            Allen doesn’t save you anything he is owed 12.5 million whether he is on the team or not.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Fuckit then.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        pretty sure its still 53. there has been talk of increase but i don’t think it has happened. I do believe they increased the number of players that can dress on Thursday games. I am also pretty sure they increased the Practice Squad from 8 to 10.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          For cap purposes its top 51 cap hits

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i understand that. butch mentioned he thought the roster is now up to 55 instead of 53. i was just clarifying for him.

  • I think we still sign a S (for cheap).
    Ron Parker (28); Goldson (30); heck, even Louis Delma – for vet min only (28)

    Does Pot Roast think he’s fillet mignon? He’s not worth $8M/yr.
    Word is – the Raiders offered him $6M/yr but they have since moved on, so perhaps he’ll be in the $5M/yr price range.

    Too much for a fat boy?

    • John Doe

      “I am going to sign a 1-yr deal with Washington for $4M,” Knighton said in a text message.

      I think even $4 million is too much for Knighton. Jaguars released Red Bryant this morning. He can play NT as well as 5-tech. He was set to make $3.25 million this year. Maybe pace can get him for $2 million per year. He is 30 and can play at least for another 2 years.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Danny Shelton is a very fat man. I wish we had all that cap space we were expecting so that we could sign these guys though. I can semi-understand keeping Forte, but Cutty/Allen?

      • willbest

        Forte has leverage. He is owed 8 million. If he gets cut he is going to get 14 mil guaranteed from Dallas on some 3-year 18 mil deal.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Cue Judy Garland:

    “Somewhere, over the Dwayne Bowe…”

    • Johnnywad

      A timeless classic.

    • Another bust.
      Time of year when busts are released.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        would not consider him a bust. he has had 3 1000 yard seasons, made the ProBowl once. and he’s had Smith throwing to him the last couple seasons. he is not great by any means but bust is a really harsh term.

        • I think any 1st rounder who gets straight cut would qualify as bust (at the time), but you’re right. Maybe he’s not so much a ‘bust’ but ‘underachiever’?

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i would go with underachiever, he has been on the team for 8 years, busts rarely last that long in the league especially with only one team.

  • AlbertInTucson

    Trent Richardson released.

    Since the Browns and the Colts both used a #1 to acquire his services, doesn’t he actually qualify as a TWO-time1st Round Draft Pick bust?

    I don’t think we’ve seen one of those since, Rick Mirer?

    • It’s been a while.
      T-rich has no vision, explosion.
      Some ppl compare T-rich to Bill’s Lynch, so perhaps T-rich has a second act, but IMO, he’ll have to shed about10 pounds and WANT to redeem himself.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Yeah, but other than THAT he was OK.

  • Cowboys might be seatless in the HB musical chairs pre-season.
    They’ll either have to sign Spiller (who was never a cow-bell back), trade for a HB (Forte?) or they’re still hoping for AP?

    I think they’ll be ok with drafting a studly HB too. They probably assume that anyone can run behind that Oline.

    • BerwynBomber

      They would be smart to draft one and look for a low cost FA.

    • draft

    • Irish Sweetness

      We could totally make them give us a second rounder for Forte! You draft Coleman/Gordon, BANG! You’ve just shaved 7 years off your HB, and gotten some burst back AND you didn’t use one of your original draft picks. Someone explain to me how that’s not awesome.

      {They could draft Coleman/Gordon?}

      Okay ….. I see what you did there ….

      We could call the Raiders?

      • I thought you gave up drinking?
        We’re not getting a 2nd for Forte.
        At best we’d get a 5th and some crystal pepsi.

  • And while everyone is throwing briefcases of cash to HBs, Newsome quietly signs Forsett for 3yrs/9M.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      he’s useless without Kubiak. Remember…his OC is Trestman.

      • he’ll catch a boatload of dumpoffs. Like Forte, he’s better in space.

  • Such a strange sensation. Feels like we have 20 LBs (Houston, McPhee, Young, Shea, Sharpton, Allen, Bostic, Greene, Washington, Bass, Jones…) and 2 DL, – Ratliff/Ego

    (though I know we’ll mix and match + draftee, still…)

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Sutton.

      • He’s a traditional 3-tech. Kinda like Allen – might be a square peg in a round hole.

        • 3T can fit as 5T sometimes, especially in a situational pass rushing role. Need to see more burst out of him than he showed last year though. I’m sure they’ll give him a shot as a DE.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Such a strange sensation. Feels like we have 20 LBs (Houston, McPhee, Young, Shea, Sharpton, Allen, Bostic, Greene, Washington, Bass, Jones…) and 2 DL, – Ratliff/Ego

          You mentioned Allen into the numerous LBs list…so you can’t neglect Sutton on the few DLs list.

          • willbest

            Allen can’t be cut. Sutton can.

      • FourFeathers

        Sutton might not make the roster because he simply doesn’t fit.

        • Johnnywad

          No way. No way he’s not on the roster this fall.

          • he’ll have to earn a spot. I think he will, but it won’t be given to him. New regime, no ties to the old one.

          • Johnnywad

            He’s cheap, young, and showed flashes last year. Hard to imagine cutting that.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          not all those LBs are going to make the roster and some of them don’t fit.

          He enumerated all of them.

    • willbest

      I don’t see Shea, Greene, Bass, Washington on the team next year.

      • John Doe

        Washington can be converted to 3-4 DE. He is 6’4″, 265. He can add 15 pounds and will have the same size as McPhee. I think David Bass will thrive more as 3-4 OLB than Shea.

        Greene will be a training camp cut. He was healthy scratch last year for 5-6 games towards the end and they played Dede Lattimore over him as core ST player. There was a lengthy article about how Greene was deeply affected by his close friend getting hurt during a football game at Rutgers in 2012 and is now paralyzed. The article hinted that Greene lost his passion for football and was even afraid of hits for a while. Emery’s pre draft due diligence failed to find out about this and so we have another 4th round bust after Evan Rodriguez.

        • willbest

          It has been my understanding that Washington has a low football IQ since he was a healthy scratch for much of 2013 despite the d-line being decimated.

          • John Doe

            But CornWash played good in his limited snaps in 2014. Showed improvement and was good on special teams. He still has 2 years to figure it out. ST will give him a chance. I think he can figure out 2 gap DE end position.

          • FourFeathers

            Minuscule chsnce Washington makes this roster or any NFL roster. So what about his physical measurements. He’s lost on the field and has been given more than enough chances. Fox won’t waste time on a guy who looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

          • John Doe

            If you are looking at prodcution vs. chances given, Shea is the one who should be gone.

            David Bass has done the best if you look at snaps vs. production. I believe both Bass and Washington will have all the opportunities to make the roster.

            Fox and Pace have no choice but to try and make most out of 6th and 7th rounders like CornWash and Bass. Rebuild will be faster if they are able to develop them into something.

          • Waffle

            I agree with you that Bass has done the best with his chances. His game seems like it would translate well in a 3-4.
            Shea gone.

          • SC Dave

            We’ll see about Shea… he *may* find a place on specials.

            Definitely like the possibilities that David Bass exhibits; with a real coach I think he can become not necessarily a star, but a guy that will start for a good defense for a while. Kinda like HH – he never got much love (especially around here), but on the other hand no one could take his spot for six years. If Bass came out that well it would be excellent.

          • Everybody gets a new slate with the new coaches and defense. I’m interested to see how the young guys develop. There’s a whole lot of them Emery drafted with potential, but very few who showed much under Tucker.

            Guys I’m not counting on but not yet writing off include Washington, Bass, Bostic, Greene, Lattimore, Sutton, Hurst, Vereen, and Louis-Jean. Some of these guys will not make the roster, but at least a couple of them will be useful contributors, most likely. I just don’t know who.

            Guys I’m fairly confident will be at least useful: Fuller, Ferguson, Jones.

          • I think I made the remark that if Clowney was a blind dog in a meat market, Washington was Hellen Keller in a meat market.

        • Waffle

          washington and mcphee are not allowed to be mentioned in the same sentence….after this sentence.

          • John Doe

            Go play with your Jay doll.

          • Waffle

            don’t steal Bombers joke like you steal other twitter accounts thoughts on football.

          • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd
          • Waffle

            haha, the best part is how that song starts with that little techno beat with the planes starting their engines and prepping for takeoff.

          • I see they added a little Ramstein to the Stucka.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Folks were mentioning Beasley on here? I’ve just watched him on YT … the dude is 230lbs?? You’re drafting Kam Chancellor as a pass rusher? Then again, Randy looks like a beast that can tackle, sack, cover and lay the wood, but probably gets drafted before our pick.

          Looks like we can have the best WR, OL, S, HB, ILB or Corner.

      • FourFeathers

        McClellin, Greene, Sharpton, Washington will all be gone once camp breaks.

    • here’s how I see it unfolding: They’re gonna add 2-3 DEs between FA and the draft. Guys who are run stuffers and nothing more, which will make them cheap. IMO likely 2 cheap FAs (maybe even vet. min guys) and a mid-round draft pick (PLEASE Henry Anderson rd 3).

      In base packages, they’ll have Ratliff or Ego at NT with 2 of those 3 at DE. Put McPhee and Houston at OLBs and that’s a run-stuffing emphasis, though they’ll have to figure out one of McPhee/Houston to drop into coverage potentially.

      In nickel looks, Fangio loves to go to a 2-4-5, where the 2 OLBs are basically DEs playing in a 2 point stance. I see them putting 2 of Ratliff, Houston, and McPhee as the 2 DL, with 2 of McPhee/Houston/Allen/Young as the OLBs; that’s basically the pass rush DL. Might see Christian Jones worked into that mix too, as he has a nice pass rush IMO.

      Ultimate Nascar package to me is McPhee at NT, Houston at 3T, and Allen/Young at OLB.

      • John Doe

        Ideal would be Red Bryant on a cheap deal to play both NT and DE.

        And then Marcus Hardison of Arizona State in middle rounds. Versatile and very quick for his size.

        Check him out..
        http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/marcus-hardison?id=2552672
        http://www.nepatriotsdraft.com/2015/02/scouting-report-marcus-hardison-dt.html

        • I’ve watched Hardison. Intriguing player. Still no mid-round guy I love more than Henry Anderson.

          Red Bryant would fit the bill nicely, depending on price. Once they sign an ILB and a S, they probably won’t have much $$ to work with over the veteran minimum.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        My 3-4 look is this

        7th pick…McPhee…Ferguson…Ratliff…Houson

        My 2-4 early down run-pass look is this:

        McPhee-Ratliff–Ferguson–Houston

        For the Nascar unit you’ll have 5-6 options

        Allen-McPhee-Houson-Ratliff-Young-7th pick

        Remember…Fangio does that amiba thing..or whatever the fuck it’s called. Everybody is standing and moving around.

        PS: For me Jones is the starting ILB.

        • yeah, I’m curious where Jones will fit in. IMO he’s best suited as the 3-4 SAM, the role Aldon Brooks played in SF. But I could see them trying him at MIKE or JACK.

  • FourFeathers

    Never confuse quantity with quality. Gase, Fox and Fangio inherited a load of crap on defense PLUS the system is changing.

    • willbest

      But also don’t think that just because Mel Tucker couldn’t make a defense competent the players themselves are garbage.

      • When Fangio showed up to SF, he had 2 studs in place: Justin Smith and Patrick Willis.

        He also had 2 studs emerge in his first year: Aldon Smith (rookie) and Navarro Bowman (2nd year). Good coaching there.

        Thus he took an average D to a great one. I’d predict the D is around average this year and really good in 2016.

      • FourFeathers

        Tucker was terrible. But I think the talent was not remotely good enough. Gase, Fox and Fangio are the new guys and won’t be beholden to hanging on to the crap and the projects accumulated by Emery. McClellin, Greene, Washington will be gone for sure. Ditto Sharpton. And maybe even Bostic.

        • They’re gonna have at least 4-5 new starters. That’s half the D.

          • FourFeathers

            That was nothing on the D to feel good about outside of Ratliff, Fuller and Young. And Young is coming of an Achilles and is a poor fit for a 3-4. There is not another defensive player outside of Ratliff and Fuller who isn’t fighting for a roster spot in terms of the holdovers.

          • Big Mike

            Sutton and Ferguson played well for rookies. Houston showed promise. Bears defensive collapse last year highlights the team nature of the game. If you coach can’t compensate for weaknesses, a crack in one spot and the whole thing looks like shit.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The only unit where they inherited crap in the ILB unit.

      Logic says Fangio gets at least 1 of them to starting level play.

  • GPLDAN

    Good article that reminds us that Bridgewater had a terrible Pro Day – and it now means shit.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2394959-marcus-mariotas-pro-day-performance-means-nothing-just-ask-teddy-bridgewater

    • I think Chip told Mariotta to tank his pro-day.

      • Waffle

        “Trust me Marcus, you won’t really miss that money by dropping a few spots”.

      • GPLDAN

        Chip now has Demarco Murray and Ryan Matthews?? WTF.

        • They’re going for the all-brittle back field.
          Can Derrick Rose play some FB?

          • GPLDAN

            Powerade just picked up Rose for an ad campaign. I guess Powerade is now something you drink sitting on the bench while rehabbing tendons that never fully heal while your posse goes around telling everybody you still got it when you clearly don’t.

            “Powerade – wash it down then wash up.”

          • Powerade my IV, coach!

  • Waffle

    I’ve turned my focus to the draft and but was a little disappointed that Pot Roast chose the merc route with that 1yr deal with the Skins. Bringing on that kind of mass in the middle of the line would have opened the door for a badass OLB at pick 7. Now part of me thinks they go OL with Scherff and go DT/DE in rd 2 and 3.
    Gotta give Fangio toys though. Hmmm, this should be interesting.

    • Pot-roast was out of shape and grossly overestimated his value. He’s got 2 of 3 Animal House red flags…

      https://youtu.be/mkoPq5AOCOA

      • Waffle

        i just can’t see the Bears using their 7th pick on Danny Shelton.

        • I don’t think so either. Shelton didn’t blow up the combine like Poe, and even Poe was selected out of the top 10.
          Add to that the deep Dline class and that NTs typically fall draft day, and it’ll be a huge surprise if the Bears draft Shelton at #7.

          I think he falls to the 20s (hopefully not to the Puke).

          Here’s some other Dlinemen we might be able to nab in the 2nd.

          http://www.nationalfootballpost.com/the-top-5-defensive-linemen-in-the-2015-nfl-draft/

          • Irish Sweetness

            I hope Gregory falls to us. Few months in the gym, some meat and potatoes, solid all-round dude.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He’s 98% body fat. His blood is 68% gravy.

        • Big Mike

          How is every single draft expert, every single one of them wrong? I’ve looked at 20 mocks and they all have Shelton in the top 10.

          • Ososfan

            Alvin “Bud” Dupree looks like a monster, I hope we get him!

          • willbest

            Draft experts tend to overdraft safeties as well.

      • Waffle

        haha, that link led me to this one.

        https://youtu.be/_BmXlJc3kcc

        • haha. Love the Clerks one.
          “My GF sucked 36 dicks!”
          Customer, “In a row?”

          What they didn’t show was when he goes after her and screams, “Try not to suck any dicks on your way home!” and then the dude standing outside turns to follow her.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Ah, Slapshot ….

    • Irish Sweetness

      It’s not often you get the pick of the best OL/CB/S?ILB … passing on Scherff is something that might be regretted later on.

  • GPLDAN

    McCown makes the top of the list as Sonny Weaver Jr. decides to buy Johnny Football a life coach.

    http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-10-worst-free-agent-deals-so-far/

    • Scott W.

      Great read as always, so why do I keep forgetting those guys are over there?

    • Irish Sweetness

      Excellent, excellent avatar, GP. Look at that pate. Look at that gorgeous man.
      (Swoon)

      • Big Mike

        SMH…:)

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    holy crap Suh’s cap hit for next year is $28,585,000. WTF!!! Dolphins must be banking on the cap increasing a lot next year.

    • willbest

      Assuming it goes up 10 mil again they will have 20mil in cap. They would need to sign Pouncy and Tannehill, but they aren’t going to pay Mike Wallace 11.5 mil to perform the way he does.

    • Irish Sweetness

      For a defensive tackle. SMH.

  • Ososfan

    Draft, Alvin Dupree looked good in his pro day and I believe he should be a guy on everyone’s radar. He says he emulates Alton Smith, von Miller and clay Matthews. He is a nasty mofo!

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