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The First Day of Free Agency Open Thread

| March 10th, 2015

Nothing depresses me more than the idea of sitting in front of my computer all day, waiting for the Bears to do something so I can cobble together some barely-developed thoughts in column form. That’s what the draft is for. Instead I will be commenting on the whole of NFL free agency at DaBearsBlog’s Twitter feed. As always you can see that feed on the right rail of this page or follow me on Twitter by CLICKING HERE.

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  • Herp Derp

    I’m here to pick my nose and chew bubblegum… but I’m all out of bubblegum.

  • Trac

    I still think the Bears will find a way to unload Cutler. They will try their last trick in the book by making it seem like they won’t cut him.

    • Big Mike

      Best Scenario for this rebuilding year, is we go into the season with cutler, Good Jay shows up and a contenders QB goes down and we commit a felony and extort multiple picks from said hostage team. Second benefit is that all of the dump jay guys AND the we love jay guys will be miserable about it, because Jay will have in their view have “turned the corner”. Forgetting that he’s teased us before.

      • willbest

        Well if there is any QB in the league that is good at learning new offensive systems its Jay Cutler.

        I don’t know what you are getting from a contender though. They are going to be picked 21st and above. Probably not just 2015 either.

        • Big Mike

          If you could get a late 1st round pick for 2016. Or even a 2 and a 3 late round for 2016. That’s a ton more than we’d pick up now. Cutler would be functional in the offense pretty quick. Especially if the bye week was in front of that team.

          Don’t know if you’d could get that much, but damn that’s way more than Bears are getting offered now. It also doesn’t seem too far fetched.

          • willbest

            I think it is safe to assume that nobody but Pace and his top couple lieutenants knows what the Bears were offered for Cutler.

            It is also safe to assume it wasn’t as much as they valued him. Nobody knows how much value they place on him though.

          • Big Mike

            But it wasn’t enough that’s all we know.

  • Scharfinator

    Short and sweet, comedic leaning. Good article, Jeff!

  • FourFeathers

    Mortenson says Cutler is staying. So there is that. Sure hope we get 1 Safety and an Offensive Lineman. Be nice to upgrade over Jennings at CB, but not sure they can make that happen in free agency. The more bodies at Linebacker and Defensive Line would be great. Especially since Willie Young is uncertain because of the injury.

    • willbest

      We absolutely need a safety. If they do nothing else.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I feel Fox will want Rahim Moore on his team. I hope somebody has the sense to hire Ryan Fitz. With he and Clausen, you not only have a solid roster (if you fancy Cutler), but it would allow us to trade him at the drop of a hat.

        I don’ think anyone can say Cutler is staying next season, it all depends on when/if Pace’s phone rings. We all know Jay is less than perfect, but he’s far from terrible and still a rare commodity in the current market. But I want the Beard and Rahim, plus a few solid value signings of good players I’m not really familiar with that give Barb a semi.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Does Barb know what a semi is? Not an insult to Barb but it is an American idiom. A semi, Barb, is that first rush of blood into the penis after you have seen Kate Upton in a bikini, not enough to fully get your general to stand at attention but enough for him to convince you to google “Kate Upton leaked iCloud photos.”

          • Irish Sweetness

            I actually thought about the addendum and went against it as I didn’t want to come across as being penis-obsessed. I’m not. I like mine and we’l leave it at that. It’s not one of those pig’s-tail corkscrew bendy ones

            {IRISH! NOOO!}

            Sorry. Anyway, yes Barb, a semi is a non-flaccid, yet not fully tumescent member. Kind of what you get at forty that you used to get at 17.

            Sorry, ‘member’ is a penis, a one-eyed Jap, ‘the old Johnson’.

        • Sactowns#1

          I hear the Jets were interested in Fitz. I always liked the guy and it would be great to have him on our team. He would up our facial hair factor by 10.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You’ve got to love the facial hair. That’s a fucking beard. If you’re going to have a beard then don’t pull any punches. I always thought the great thing about Dan Fouts was that beard.

  • willbest

    Mortenesen’s “At most, Chicago has been positioned as a passive listener if other teams have interest in any of its players, including Cutler — which is the case for the majority of teams, a source noted.”

    Sounds about right. For everybody not named Marshall and Cutler. But if that were the case for Cutler you would have thought they would have endorsed him him. Unless not endorsing him was some sort of method of getting people to pitch offers. Still I can’t think Jay would be too happy with being treated like that.

    • FourFeathers

      Screw Cutler and his feelings. Fact is he has been a large scale disappointment in his 6 years in Chicago. It’s past due time he return the faith this organization has invested in him. I like it that Pace and Fox aren’t sucking up to him and are keeping him at arms length.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        yeah… because humiliating the QB you’re going to pay 25 M guaranteed is the way to go.

        That always works in the NFL.

      • Big Mike

        Does Cutler owe you money or something?

        • John Doe

          No. He is just bad. His performance and pay do not match.

          • willbest

            Will it make you feel better when Big Ben, Eli, and Rivers all get 19-20 million/yr extensions?

          • John Doe

            They all deserve it. Jake does not.

          • willbest

            Which is why he is only getting 18 mil

          • John Doe

            Yeah, he is cheap. That is why team’s are lining up to trade for him. Above average QB, team friendly contract, and no takers!

          • willbest

            That clearly isn’t true. What is true is nobody offered Pace enough to part with Cutler.

          • John Doe

            He is not even bringing Bears the kind of return Carson Palmer got for Cincinnati.

          • willbest

            You don’t know that. All you know is Pace value’s Cutler more.

          • John Doe

            Yes, he values him so much that he has still not publicly endorsed him as QB.

            What a valuable QB!!!

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            i don’t understand your need for Pace or Fox to “publicly endorse” Jay. Have they publicly endorsed anyone on the team? We have not heard much from either one on anything. the only thing i have heard from either of them was that they are going to meet with the players and get to know them before they make their evaluations.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And rightly so. It would be insanity to cut him now, when some team will be begging for him in week two next season when their guy explodes an achilles tendon. This is why we need a guy like Fitzy to go with Clausen because we have to be ready to eject him at any point. Patience. He is worth a first rounder, just not now perhaps. Everyone’s circumstances change.

          • No to clipboard Jesus.
            I’d rather roll with Clausen while we groom a rook QB and Fales.

          • FourFeathers

            Pace and Fox are NOT going to coddle Cutler and alleluia for that. Trestman, Tice, Martz? They all felt the need to treat Cutler with kid gloves and to stroke his ego. It’s past due time that Cutler produce on and consistent basis and reward the enormous faith the Bears have invested in him. He has been a major disappointment and there is no other way to objectively state it.

          • willbest

            huh? Martz didn’t coddle Cutler. He put him out there to get murdered every snap and Cutler willingly obliged on every snap.

          • Big Mike

            So, do you have a time machine? Because the worst part of his contract was last year.

          • John Doe

            Cutler has $54 milliion guaranteed for 3 years. That is $18 million per year.

            Jake Cutler is not a $18 millon per year QB. He is just not. I know some teams will be stupid enough to pay him that. I wish Bears were not one of those stupid teams.

            He is slightly better than undrafted Brian Hoyer.

            Even if you take Cutler’s best half year in 2011, he deserves max $10-11 million per year.

          • willbest

            Based on your graduate degree in economics, and decade of experience in either the NFL front office or player agent no doubt.

          • John Doe

            And Phil Emery and meatball Cutler fans were so right in evaluating Cutler’s worth.

            And Cutler proved them right!! down to every penny.

          • Big Mike

            Cutler has $26 million guaranteed for the next 2 years. If they cut him now, they are on the hook for $16 million. If they cut him in a week they are on the hook for $26million. After this season the Bears owe him $10 million (less whatever the other team pays him). Whether he’s worth the money or not, isn’t the point. Some of you guys have a hard on over the fact that Cutler made a bunch of money and didn’t live up to it. I’m not arguing that point.

            In 2015 his cap hit is $16.5 million 11th in the league. In 2016 his hit is $17 million. Based on other QBs who have contracts that will need be redone, he’s likely to be 14th or 15th. Pretty close to being about where he should be paid. Maybe you’ve got him as the 20th best QB. Overpaying by 4-5 slots isn’t the catastrophe it’s being painted. Also.. look at the following

            From 2010-12, Bears D gave up 18.8ppg. Cutler 27-13 as starter.
            2009, 13-14, Bears D gave up 27.0ppg. Cutler 17-25 as starter.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The Cardinals paid Palmer similar numbers.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            For 2014 I agree because of the way the contract was structured to give him a ton of money in year 1, but if he can be salvaged (basically cutting TO’s down) to the tune of 60% completions, 3500yds, 28TD’s, 16TO’s (INT’s and FUMLOST combined) with a strong running game, then he’ll be fine for 2015 given that his cap hit this year is 11th for QB’s behind such luminaries as Sam Bradford and Matt Stafford and just barely ahead of the incomparable Alex Smith.

          • Irish Sweetness

            You’ve got to hand it to the guy though. He became a very rich man just after leaving college, never listening to his bosses yet still earning more money than I could spend in a lifetime. Without winning a thing. Kudos.

          • 16TO’s (INT’s and FUMLOST combined)

            This is the key. Cutler is just incapable of NOT turning it over, which as other’s have argued is bearable only if his production was 4,000 + 40 TDs, but I don’t see any of those happening.

            Cutler has been consistently mediocre (for various factors) with a few games of great and more than a few of “same ole Cutler”.

            Cutler MIGHT improve on his stats slightly, but it also could be the book on Cutler is out.
            Take away his primary target and watch him get sacked because he doesn’t go through his progressions quickly enough, or throw it haphazardly and inaccurately.

            I for one hope he excels on the Bears (if anything, to get something for him in return), but I’m not holding my breath.

    • BearDown100393

      Jake Cutler has been emotionless since meeting Josh McDaniels.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      It was stupid… Cutler has all the leverage in the world. So did Marshall. Only the naive can’t/couldn’t see and understand that.

      “According to La Canfora, Marshall’s earning potential has been increased as part of this agreement and will have an opportunity to earn more over the next two years than the $15.8 million he was slated to make.”

      Bashing them only makes you gain lower draft picks when you trade them, or gives you a disinterested player if you keep him. You ain’t putting nobody in line just because you fake power.

      • willbest

        I didn’t realize Marshall had performance bonuses in his contract that he was unlikely to make with the Bears and Cutler. Or are they referring to his ability to do his NFL shows?

        I would also humbly submit that with IL income tax going back down to 3.5% and NJ being something around what 10% for the top income bracket, and the standard of living being substantially more over there he is looking at a relative pay cut.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Even so..he’ll get the same dough. Which was my point.

          He goes to New York, he gets respected and paid the same cash bottom line. He loses nothing. Which was obvious from the get go.

          The Bears had no leverage, so the stick tactic wasn’t the right one. You can say ‘hey…it was the right one, because they wanted him out and that tactic gets it done’. That’s true, but you maybe could have gotten better compensation and/or a difference making player buying 100% of the new culture.

      • Can Cutler become even more disinterested?
        Will he take up smoking a pipe in a Hef nightgown and slippers?

        • Irish Sweetness

          He could sit there stroking his white cat, interviewing OCs before operating the trap door to a pool of white sharks.

  • John Doe

    But ..but..but meatballs keep telling us Jake is top 20 QB and his contract is in line with market and really cheap in two years..Still no takers.


    Dan Bernstein @dan_bernstein · 7m7 minutes ago
    Source: Minimal NFL interest in Cutler so far, despite well-known availability. #Bears would “put on happy face” publicly if he stays.

    • willbest

      Bernstein is a clown.

    • well, he IS a top 20 QB. I don’t think anybody really denies that.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        John does.

      • John Doe

        LOL!

        • name me 20 QBs better. I’ll wait.

          Fair warning: be prepared to back up any name on the list with actual stats. There are maybe 15 you can get away with. I’ll challenge the bottom ones aggressively, so be prepared to actually defend yourself with facts for once in your life or don’t bother trying.

          • I’ll get you started. Here’s my tiered list, more or less. I have cutler somewhere in the 14-20 range (IMO that tier Cutler is in is guys with different strengths but who are all similar-average QBs you can have as your guy and be ok. You just have to build intelligently around them and play to their strengths while trying to minimize their weaknesses).

            Find 2 guys not on this list who you can say are clearly better than Cutler. Also tell me why each guy in Cutler’s tier is clearly better than him. I want stats, not “he’s better than Cutler because he’s not a little bitch” or stupid shit like that.

            https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1amyf11B8GOGMiA5Jae7kxUq187wcfpxBTiEl3pytfvQ/edit#gid=0

          • Big Mike

            Please, no facts allowed.

          • Irish Sweetness

            (pulls on his faded Fitzy t-shirt and wipes off the tomatoes)

            Fitzy is better than anyone (or as good as ) anyone in the ‘similar to Cutler’ list. He’s just never had the right situation. Something happened to AJ in Houston, I don’t know what – but he disappeared. He didn’t have a line. Buffalo never had the receivers or the line. He is officially the smartest QB in the NFL and he threw 6 TD passes in a single game last season on a not very good offense and finished with a 95 rating. I think that says something about him.

            What was Cutty with Forte/BM and Alshon, 84 or something like that?

            And Fitzy’s about to be free. Fitzy/Clausen/Fales plus whatever we get from a Cutty trade. Not bad to rebuild with before you feel the need to pay a stud.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            you make it sound like Houston does not have any offensive talent last year. Arian Foster, Andre Johnson, D. Hopkins. Matt Flynn threw for 6 TDs before also, it does not make you a good QB. Smartest QB in the NFL based on what? wonderlic score? if that’s the case just remember Blaine Gabbert is officially the 2nd smartest QB then.

      • willbest

        It is more than that. He is consistently a top 20 QB. Keep in mind that over his 9 years it hasn’t just been 32 QBs. Its been more like 80.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Well… nobody was opened into paying Edelman 3 M/year, nobody claimed Blount and only the Patriots invited Malcom Butler to their rookie camp.

      So…the fact that there’s minimal NFL interest in Cutler doesn’t make him not a top 20 QB.

      There’s other, much more substantiated proof if you want to argue the contrary. This ‘NFL teams know what they’re doing’ concept is weak and lame.

    • Irish Sweetness

      In fairness, FA hasn’t really started yet and the draft is later. Suh didn’t fly off the shelf. Teams do their due diligence and Pace isn’t selling Cutty at fire-sale prices, nor should he.

  • John Doe

    Chicago Sports News @ChiSportUpdates · 45m45 minutes ago
    My Problem with Ryan Pace and John Fox is that why don’t they say publicly if Jay Cutler is The Bears QB for this upcoming season

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Because he already is. Do they need to come out and say that Alshon is starting at WR this season?

      • John Doe

        Not the same thing and you know it. specious argument.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          Ok, Matt Forte then. There is tons of speculation involving him, do they need to come out and say he’s the starting RB next year?

          • John Doe

            There is no other position like the QB position on a football team.

            And Bears paid $22 million for their QB position in 2014 and he bombed spectacularly considering he got paid $22 million.

            So again, not the same thing.

          • willbest

            No.. Bear Down has a point on this one. They have been directly asked about Forte and dodged the question.

          • Exactly. Cutler is like Forte: if he’s still on the roster, he’s the starter.

          • Irish Sweetness

            And also for sale to the right bidder.

          • John Doe

            But even Forte is on the trade block. His tweet clearly hinted at that.

            Pace is trying to move both Cutler and Forte if he could. We can pretend that he is not, though.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That circles back around to everyone on the roster being available for a price, even Alshon, if Tennessee offered the #2 pick in the draft (they wouldn’t in a million years) for Alshon, he would be a Titan by close of business.

          • John Doe

            there is difference between trying to get rid of a player and getting an unsolicited ridicuolus offer for a player.

          • willbest

            I don’t know about that. Would you really give up your WR#1 in his prime for the potential of finding your future starting DT?

            NFL teams value draft picks way too much.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I wouldn’t but you know how teams get with top 5 picks.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s only our #1 because we just dumped our #1. Is Alshon going to be studly once he gets double-teamed and pinched without a certain Beast drawing the safety help opposite him? With Cutty throwing inaccurate lasers? Calvin Johnson can be schemed out of a game, ergo Alshon will disappear.

          • willbest

            Alshon gets the safety over the top far more often than Marshall did. Mainly because Marshall was doing the jump ball over the middle stuff. And if the Bears get a speed guy, Jeffery will see plenty of single coverage because opposing defenses won’t have a choice in the matter unless they want to give Forte a free 6-7 yards

          • Irish Sweetness

            I wonder what the story with Harvin is? At a low price is he that much of a headcase? Anyone speedy on the Niners we could pinch?

      • willbest

        Has anybody asked that question?

        Both Fox and Pace have spent at a minimum 10 minutes worth of press confrence talking about the QB1 position without endorsing Cutler.

        • Irish Sweetness

          It would be pointless and silly to name him the number one when they will entertain any reasonable offer between now and forever. Why should they?

          • willbest

            All these front office guys in the NFL have big boy pants. They know everybody is for sale at the right price. As long as Pace didn’t go out and say something like “Cutler is the brother I never knew I had” they would understand he was available.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Pace can’t say “Jay’s our guy. We like Jay.” …and then trade him a week later. There is no news. He is a Bear until he is not. I’d prefer he was moved before the draft, but if it’s next season and we benefit pick-wise – so be it. There’s no rush. I expect to lose for two seasons.

          • Agree. Only, I don’t expect us to lose, but wouldn’t be heartbroken over it.

    • FourFeathers

      Why should they? Why do what Martz, Tice and Trestman did with Cutler and coddle the enigma?!? Time Cutler feels heat on his backside and is accountable. My goodness, he’s being paid like a franchise QB. At least he could act the part. He has not ascended the throne of QB royally in this league like Brady or Rodgers where everybody at Halas Hall should be deferential to his preferences and mood swings. It makes me greatly happy that Pace and Fox are setting a new tone with ALL players.

      • SC Dave

        Definitely agree with that last sentence. I think part of the problem before was the deference to the “old guard” by Emery.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      there it is! I was wandering why you have such a hard on for Pace or Fox to “publicly endorse” Jay, especially when Pace and Fox hasn’t endorsed anyone on the team. Twitter told you to think that way. here’s a thought, don’t look at twitter for a week and actually come up with some thoughts of your own.

      • AlbertInTucson

        I agree on the whole “endorsements” crap.

        New regime. Until we actually see, up close and personal, who/what can produce for us in our scheme, nothing’s guaranteed.

  • Bear Down in Tampa
    • Matthew Stafford is Jay Cutler, only 5 years younger.

      • BearDown100393

        And 2x helmet size.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He looks like a baby in a man’s body. The only reason he hasn’t been run out of the NFL is Calvin Johnson.

      • Trac

        But Stafford is a lesbian. Big difference. Hahahaha

      • Does Stafford have more 4rth QB comebacks?
        Seems like it, but I could be wrong.

  • The Mortenson report doesn’t really change my thinking on what Bears will do with Cutler. They’re open to moving him for the right price, but aren’t getting rid of him just to get rid of him. Mortenson and Bernstein both agree on that, they just differ on how actively they’re trying to get that right price in return.

    I still say Cutler is most likely here for 1-2 more years. He’s obviously not the guy the new regime wants to build around, but they’re also smart enough to realize he can be a respectable option until they can find that guy and have him ready to play.

    • John Doe

      But what about the guy?

      The last time he got a whiff of a coach trying to trade him, he threw a temper tantrum and would not take calls from the owner writing his check.

      this is such a winning strategy to get the best out of him!

      • yeah, because nobody matures from 25 to 32. And Fox/Pace are handling this situation better than McDaniels did.

        • John Doe

          Mature like in the Saints game in December where he simply started winging it rather than execute the plan of team that is paying him $22 million for that year?

          Mature like multiple time last year in games where he refused the execute the called play?

          • I’m not going to sit here and say Cutler is perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but there have been a number of stories out there in the last several describing various ways he has matured in his time in Chicago.

            Refusing to execute the called play is otherwise known as an audible. It’s something NFL QBs do. I don’t know that Cutler is particularly good at it, but it’s part of the job.

            Regarding the Saints game: that was bad. You know what was worse? Trestman refusing to fire Kromer before it started. Don’t blame Cutler one bit for what he did in response.

          • Irish Sweetness

            He’s clearly terrible at audibles. I don’t know if it’s because he doesn’t call the right plays or just can’t execute because of his questionable accuracy. Probably both?

          • there have been opposing players who say they can show certain looks pre-snap and know what he will audible to in response. Pretty easy to fool, supposedly. So I’d be fine with them taking some audible power away.

          • Irish Sweetness

            But it’s not about reading the looks you’re shown. Moorehead said McMahon would call the right audible BEFORE the defense made their move. An average QB audibles according to what they SEE, the smartest ones audible to what they THINK will happen, or at least that’s how it seems to me. It doesn’t really matter what the defense looks like before the snap, that’s why they’re called ‘looks’. You make it look like one thing, the ball is snapped, you do another. For me that’s what reading defenses is about – not recognizing fronts and then making a sight adjustment and calling (supposedly) the right play. That’s for chimps like Cutler. Reading defenses means guessing what they’ll do on the next play.

          • Peyton makes audibles at the line based on what he sees all the time. So does Rodgers. And Brady. And…

          • ahhh…the old, “I’m stupid not diabolical” chewbacca defense…

          • SC Dave

            Really, JW? Really? You exonerate Jay Cutler for that travesty?

          • full exoneration is probably a bit overboard, but that was much more of a travesty by Trestman/Kromer than Cutler. Or at least, I should say they were both travesties, but the one travesty caused the other, so I place more blame on the cause.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Mature like when he got benched and handled it like a man! He was the only one that handled that situation like a pro.

          • in terms of in front of the media, Jay came off like the only adult in the locker room last year. Kromer, Emery, Trestman all looked like buffoons; Jay looked like a professional.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Didn’t it get to you when he’d throw a game away on four or five throws and then shrug it off in the presser “Aw y’know …we’ll look at the tape …” yada yada ….
            Literally not giving a crap because he was a multi-millionaire and set for life. SMH.

          • He did handle it with maturity…until he put the helmet back on.

        • Irish Sweetness

          I don’t think Jay matured, anyone else? Did anyone here mature from 25 to 32?
          I wish!

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I’m 32 now, and yeah i’d say i’ve matured in my personal/professional life. 3 kids will do that to you though. I’m a regular guy though, not a pro athlete.

          • BillW

            I would say the same – and I do think having two kids matured Jay. Almost paradoxically, that maturation may make him care even less about winning. His family is set – his wife can do whatever she feels in her “career”.

            I just wonder what Jay intends to do after football.

          • willbest

            He claimed he would like to do Sports radio in Tennessee.

          • BillW

            Probably would suit him well. Small market. Would never make it in Chicago or NY.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      and stupid enough to let everybody -and I mean EVERYBODY- know they don’t like him.

  • All anybody wants to talk about is Cutler, but here’s the truth: 2015 (and however long Cutler is in Chicago) will be decided much more by the D than Cutler.

    2009: CHI 7-9 w/ Cutler under C, D ranked T21st giving up 23.4ppg
    2010: CHI 10-5 w/ Cutler, D 4th (17.9ppg)
    2011: CHI 7-3 w/ Cutler, D 14th (21.3ppg)
    2012: CHI 10-5 w/ Cutler, D 3rd (17.0ppg)
    2013: CHI 5-6 w/ Cutler, D T30th (29.9ppg)
    2014: CHI 5-10 w/ Cutler, D 31st (27.6ppg)

    So when the D is above average, the Bears are 27-13 with Cutler at QB. When the D is bottom 10, the Bears are 17-25 with Cutler at QB.

    Maybe, just maybe, getting average QB play (which Cutler has provided for pretty much all of his tenure in CHI, statistically speaking) means your team will be good with a good D or bad with a bad D. Just a thought.

    So how the D performs this year will be more important to Chicago’s season than how Cutler performs, because you know more or less what Cutler is going to give you (a few great games, a few bad ones, too many turnovers, overall evens out to around average).

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The reason I thought the Bears could be competitors this year, while keeping the Offense more or less the same, but balanced and spending all that cap space and high draft picks on D and let Fangio do his thing.

      Instead we’re got a 4-5 year plan, better known as ‘we’ll be ready when Rogers retires’.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Looking at the ppg given up by the defense, one can see the sans-Urlacher effect.
      Wrist injury, out for the season in 2009. Not on the team 2013/14. Just coincidence, of course.

      That’s 10-12 ppg.

      • Big Mike

        Keeping him wouldn’t have helped much. He had lost quite a few steps. Morale wise, leadership wise probably. But his time had ended. But he was a force for most of his career.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Sure, but the effect is there to be seen. Quite a stark contrast in the numbers. He might not have been the force of old, but he was the gel. Everyone was in the right place before the snap

          • Big Mike

            No doubt about it. He covered so much ground, with his speed, recognition and length in his prime. Might be a reason why Mike Brown was so good. Urlacher could get so deep, relative to the norm.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        All that D is based on the MLB. When you lose that everything changes.

        And he was an elite player, so you lose pure quality also.

      • SC Dave

        I would say the difference between 2009 and 2010/11 is a fairer measure, as the coaching changes were likely mostly responsible for the disasters of 2013/14. So, I’d consider Urlacher in there instead of an average guy was probably worth about a TD per game.

        Crazy awesome, when you think about it.

    • Don’t you think an Alex Smith type QB would be better suited for a Defense/SP teams oriented Bears?
      Not sure. That’s where I draw the “mendoza line”.
      I think Alex Smith is about equal to Cutler (Cutler might have better arm, but Smith can read Ds better), but they have such radically different styles – I wonder if that’s the way to go rather than pray Cutler catches fire down the stretch ala SB Flacco.

      • willbest

        Cutler is going to kill you. But Alex Smith isn’t going to win you a shootout. And in the playoffs you are probably going to need to do that once, because you have to go through 3 playoff QB/OC that are in the playoffs because they know how to gameplan.

      • honestly, they’re pretty comparable. Neither is winning a SB barring a miracle. Both will be QBs of bad teams if surrounded by bad talent or good teams if surrounded by good talent.

  • John Doe

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Adam Gase Attack Plan for 2015: (1) Power run game. (2) Attack deep w/Cutler’s arm off play action. (3) Become Dolphins head coach in 2016.

    I hope they #3 has already been resolved with Gase and even Fangio. Bears cannot be going through OCs and DCs every year. This team is going to take 2-3 years to go anywhere. I hope Fox and Pace already had word with them before they signed that this is not a 1 year job.

    Plus, Adam Gase has the opportunity to become in-house replacement for John Fox in 3-4 years.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Power run game? With Roberto Garza’s plastic knees? Matt Forte? Power? Attak deep with Cutler’s arm? That would be fine, except that he misses his receiver by five yards when he does that.

  • John Doe

    The media will keep hounding John Fox and Ryan Pace all year…


    Kevin Seifert @SeifertESPN · 7m7 minutes ago
    If Bears never tried to trade Cutler, and coaches prepped playbook for him all along, why no public endorsement? http://es.pn/1KPerkp

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      You think !!!???

    • SC Dave

      Who cares?

  • John Doe

    Chaos and dysfunction awaits if they keep Cutler..

    Kevin Seifert @SeifertESPN · 4m4 minutes ago
    Just my take, but if Pace/Fox refused to name Cutler starter b/c they wanted to “make him work for it,” then they’ve greatly misjudged him.

    • Big Mike

      That’s a bad assumption on Seifert’s part. Cutler’s never been in this position. Don’t know what will happen. Losing is what sets his shit on fire.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I disagree. That’s a rather normal tactic. Nothing out of order.

      The problem is the rest. Leaking the idea of Cutler Panel with formers was a sign of lunacy.

      That’s the most humiliating thing you can do. There’s no coming back from that.

      PS: Could it be that leaking a Cutler as a Bear in the future, they’re trying to make him ask for a release/trade ? I think it’s a real possibility. Saying Cutler stays, while Cutler badly wants out throws the ball into Cutler’s camp.

  • John Doe

    Chicago Sports News @ChiSportUpdates · 18m18 minutes ago
    Bears showing interest in Percy Harvin

    • willbest

      So long as his salary is Vet min + 100k per game he actually plays.

    • John Doe

      NFL Network is the source on this.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Looks like we got priced out of Devon House….

    Ian Rapoport ‏@RapSheet 1m1 minute ago
    #Jaguars set to add another big-time FA: Ascending former #Packers CB Davon House is set join them at $6.25M per year

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Culliver/Cox are going to be expensive then, yikes. Might just want to draft 2 CB’s and add an aging vet as a stopgap.

    • willbest

      Wonder why the Packers didn’t feel he was worth that when they just lost one of their CBs

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        They believe in their draft picks.

  • willbest

    Well Kyle Long seems happy Cutler is the Bears QB

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Slauson as well.

  • Sactowns#1

    Hey Irish- where are you residing these days? I was looking at a trip to Asia and could use some advice.

    • Trac

      For you Sac, Hong Kong is a must. He he.

    • Scott W.

      Thailand was once the lucky landing spot. Not sure where he’s remarrying at present. He’s had quite the last couple of weeks.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Just outside Pattaya, Thailand, Sac. From there you can get to Laos/Vietnam/Cambodia/Malaysia really cheaply by air. China’s only two hours by plane too. The Phillipines aren’t far either. The nicest part of Thailand is down the left bit (beach-wise) around Krabi, but it’s far away from anything else.

      • Sactowns#1

        I was looking at flying into Chengdu and flying out of Bangkok. I was actually curious about the airfare once in country. Shoot me an email Irish and I’ll pick your brain. Jlehr916@gmail.com

  • John Doe

    Chicago Sports News @ChiSportUpdates · 4m4 minutes ago
    Two sources: #Bears are nearing a deal with Terrance Knighton

    • willbest

      That is good news.

      • Irish Sweetness

        He’s a big boy.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Beef for Fangio’s base 2-4-5 D.

  • Scott W.

    Stupid clocks. For a week, I’ve thought the magic F/A Hour was noon today. Who thought 4:00 was a good idea anyway?

    • willbest

      They want stuff breaking for the evening drive on sports radio?

      • Scott W.

        That, or I can’t tell time anymore. One or the other.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Imagine my confusion.

  • I expect an OLB, DE/DT, S, C/OG and maybe a nickle CB in FA.
    Another possibility is a WR and/or KR.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Also QB, RB, TE and ILB. Especially ILB, Maybe.

      • willbest

        Don’t really have the money for all of that. I sort of get the idea that ILB or nickle CB is going to get drafted in round 2 at this point

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          i was ironic.

      • John Doe

        Mason Foster is coming here. Several people have said they like him.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          to do what ? visit the city ?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Hopefully that’s all.

      • I think we might get ILB and TE. ILB Foster has been linked, and TE Vigil Greene.
        Those might be “2nd wave” signings.
        The QB (unless we count Clausen) and HB I don’t see.

    • John Doe

      If John Fox is able to convince Greg Hardy to come here and start afresh..

      Can never have enough pass rushers.

      • willbest

        Isn’t he a 4-3 DE? Don’t we have enough of those on the roster already. Plus he is going to be expensive.

        • Yes, and I really don’t know Pace/Fox’s “woman abuser” policy.
          I don’t think they wanna upset Ginny right off the bat.
          The whole point of dumping Emery/Trest was to regain respectability, so for now, I see them skirting from “red flag” players.
          For now, at least.

    • Accd to what I’ve read
      OLB/DE/DT McPhee,
      DT Knighton
      S (Not really sure. Links with Moore, Rolle)
      C/OG Wisniewski (if we don’t get out bid)

  • Did Peanut officially retire?

    • willbest

      No. Tillman appears to have a better grasp on his worth than Briggs did as he tested FA last year. As such he is probably comfortable playing for the vet min somewhere or he would have announced it already. The fact that the Bears haven’t told him they plan on passing means he is just going to have to wait patiently until May.

  • Big Mike

    What did I miss 🙂

  • BillW

    “Kyle Long has quickly filled the Charles Tillman void for me as most beloved Bear”

    Not me – not after doing a search on “Kyle Long Jay Cutler” and reading Kyle’s interview with Jay’s wife.

    http://michiganavemag.com/personalities/articles/how-has-kristin-cavallari-changed-since-marriage-to-jay-culter

    I came close to throwing up.

  • In other news, Revis seems ready to go to the highest bidder.
    He is the BobbaFett of the NFL.

  • John Doe

    Clearly the guy is not good at his job. That is why they have to “shrink the game for him”. Exactly why he is getting paid $18 million per year for 3 years when he his not competent enough but a disastrous audibler?

    Rotoworld:

    Jay Cutler – QB – Bears

    Various sources tell CSN Chicago that the Bears plan to “take some things away” from Jay Cutler in 2015, and “shrink the game for him.”

    Realizing there’s no trade market for Cutler, the Bears are shifting their focus toward how to limit his mistakes. Cutler was a disastrous audibler in 2014, and giving him less freedom at the line of scrimmage would seem to be an easy way to cut down on his “rogue” tendencies. It’s easier said than done, of course. Regardless of Cutler’s receptiveness to the idea of less freedom, that’s what he’s going to get under conservative coach John Fox. It’s for the best.

    • BillW

      We get it. Pace and Fox are stuck with a bad Emery decision. Not the only one but the most visible and apparently one without a good solution. At this point I am putting full trust and faith in the Pace/Fox duo and support every move they make – believing it’s part of a plan they are constructing. A plan that will take 2-3 years to implement.

    • willbest

      Martz did that too, and Cutler produced at a high level with just himself, Forte, and Johnny Knox. Should be able to do better than that now that the line is functional, and he has Alshon, Bennett, Forte, and Wilson

      • John Doe

        You need to pay the guy $18 million per year to stop cutting down his misktakes?

        You are the one who keep justifying his “market based” pay.

        If they are just looking to cut down the mistakes and hand off the ball to RB committee that includes Forte, Carey and hopefully TJ Yeldon, then Clausen and/or Shaun Hill can do that for cheap.

        • willbest

          The entire 18 mil a year market is a bunch of imperfect guys. Kaep, Dalton, Palmer, Smith… everybody has their flaws. A good coach game plans for the player he has

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sometimes less IS more.

      • willbest

        As long as it isn’t Mike Tice less, it should work well.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Well, there’s “less” and then there’s “nada”.

    • BerwynBomber

      I would say it is a balancing act. Yes, by all means take away Cutler’s audibles (please do so, we’re begging you) but at the same time encourage him to do something riskier than dump it off to Forte on every third and long.

      I’m not too worried about Cutty’s TOs. They happen regardless. I would just like to see his production improve and offset the bad stuff more as is the case with Luck and at times Brees, two guys of whom he could be an inferior version not withstanding the immense leadership and football IQ gaps between him and them.

      • BillW

        I’d give him all the rope he needs to hang himself and then bench him.

        • BerwynBomber

          Me too but benching a QB of Cutler’s name in a city of Chicago’s size and media still takes a lot of balls given the shit storm an HC will face. Look at Trestman last year before the second DET game. You had people screaming that he was scapegoating Jay even though the same people would have had no problem benching other positional players who were playing as poorly as Jay (not to mention he seemingly sabotaged a game plan against NO the week before).

          At best I see it happening end of the year (like last year) and even then the criticism will be muted only if it is Fales or rookie coming off the bench.

          • willbest

            the problem I had with benching Cutler, is he was legitimately the only person held accountable. Fire Kromer, Bench Briggs/Jennings, Stop carting Shea out there when he was the 4th best LB (after all the injuries). How was Mel Tucker still the DC after back to back 50 burgers, and Brandon Marshall? But Cutler chucks a few long passes into double coverage against the Saints and he gets to ride pine? wtf.

          • BerwynBomber

            But by your last sentence you are indicating he didn’t deserve to be benched.

            I get the accountability complaint but when you throw in the he didn’t deserve it suggestion it shows your hand.

          • willbest

            No if you go rogue, you deserve to get benched. But if you are 7th in line in the House of Misfits it boggles my mind that you get singled out.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, QB is often held to a higher standard so I have no problem in terms of him being benched before other players and there was pretty much a wink-wink benching with Briggs by the end of the year. At lease that was my reading of things.

            But I get you about Kromer. In terms of Tucker, I don’t know. As it ridiculous as it sounds you could argue his unit showed, at times, more passion and grit than the other two — O and STs. In short, he was dead man walking but I could see staying the execution till season’s end.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I’d rather see Fales come in and shit his pants than let Cutler continue ad nauseam not caring. Ditka wouldn’t have thought twice about benching Cutler, he would have pulled his facemask after a lot of those throws and jay would no have been in Chicago for three years unless he changed. Chicago coaches have been very reminiscent of Asian culture for me – don’t address problems head-on, ignore them and hope that the trouble-maker comes to their senses and realizes their mistake. Bury your head in the sand type of mentality. It doesn’t work in business, and it doesn’t work in football. Jay is like the little rich kid who runs around doing what he wants but the servants won’t say anything to him.

        • Then we get squat for him next off-season.
          Granted, we might get squat for him either way, but I would at least want Cutler to get us SOMETHING in return.

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair point, Butch, but they may be stuck with him through ’16 at this point. After all, that is part of what the Thurs deadline is about.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Let’s think about this for a second.
        We’re going to take away his audibles. We’re going to take away our ability to react to an ever-changing environment? At that point I am benching Cutler and starting Clausen, stashing him until somebody is desperate for a QB due to injury.

  • BerwynBomber

    The handling of Cutler is Pace and his team’s first black eye. The “absolutely no truth to the rumor” quote from Mortensen’s source is next to laughable. The only interesting aspect remaining will be whether reports ever surface if a) deals were on the table, and b) what those deals were. Well that and how high they target a QB in a draft, if at all.

    Cutler probably gives them their best chance in ’15 even at the expense of delaying the rebuild another year. My only suggestion would be that Gase take a page from the Shanny and Martz playbook and eliminate Cutler’s ability to audible and need to read defenses at the line. Also, break him of the game manager/Forte safety valve stuff we saw so much last year. Let him chuck it downfield. Yes, it can result in more INTs but he is a TO machine regardless. Playing it “smart” with Cutler doesn’t pay off as we saw last year.

    • Scharfinator

      Do we care about best chance for ’15? Does going from .1% to .5% really mean something worthwhile?

      P.S. I made up those numbers, but I think we can agree our super bowl shot for next year is slim.

      • willbest

        I care. As 2014 proved, I will watch hot garbage, but I won’t Fing enjoy it.

        • Scharfinator

          S&M fan? 😉

      • As long as we target a QB in the draft to groom behind Cutler, I can live with that in ’15.
        But if we start losing, I’d like to see other QBs have the chance for a few snaps while “resting” Cutler.

        • John Doe

          Yes, 2015 is going to be that kinda season where Bears will be forced to rest/bench the $18 million per year guy.. I can see it coming.. because Cutler will be Cutler.

          • willbest

            In point of fact he is a 15.5 million per year guy. I want some consistency. All the people screaming that he was the highest paid QB/ 22.5 million QB last year can’t start using the 18 mil average because it suits you.

          • John Doe

            It is $54 million guaranteed over 3 years. $18 million per year. Simple math.

          • BillW

            22.5 is gone. It’s no longer 18 million per year. Last year is over. Doesn’t factor in. So now it’s 15.75 per year. Simple math – from a mathematician.

          • John Doe

            What matters is how much guaranteed money over how many years.

            the rest of it is all accounting stuff and fluff.

            Guaranteed money/# of years is the AAV

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            You don’t get it both ways. You were on here spewing the $22.5M number, you can’t use AAV anymore. Be consistent. This year he is a $16.5M QB, according to your previous logic/positions.

          • BillW

            Thanks – that was much simpler. If he’s 18 per year this year then he was 18 per year last year too.

          • John Doe

            $18 million or $22.5 million – Jake sucks no matter what number you go with and is way, way overpaid given the performance he puts on the field.

          • MikeBrownhadaPosse

            When in doubt, throw the facts out.

          • Trac

            And you end up with transparency. Hahaha

          • BillW

            Obviously I get that. But the point now is what is the average left – not overall. At least that’s how it should be looked at in opinion. Esp since Pace is not on the hook for last year.

            So keeping Jay costs Pace 31.5 or 15.75 per year. Cutting him cost I guess 21.5.

            It’s a bad place to be no matter how you look at it. I don’t expect to Phil Emery to sniff a front office job ever again.

            Maybe he can write blogs like Angelo. I loved it when he criticized Cutler forgetting he dealt the farm to get him. Maybe Emery can write about other GMs bad contracts.

          • John Doe

            The worst part of the contract is why did Emery (and Ted Phillips and George McCaskey) agree to guarantee money one year in advance? I just don’t get that part. It is the WORST part of deal and not found in contracts of Cutler’s fellow crappy QBs like Dalton, Kaep, Smith etc.

            Why did they agree to guarantee $15.5 million for 2015 last March?

            Why did they guarantee $10 million for 2016 on March 12, 2015?

            Dumbest way to handcuff the team. That fool Phil Emery.. unless he got some kickbacks from Jake and his agent. That is the only reason that makes sense he would agree to such a lop-sided deal. I mean even Peyton Manning or Tom Brady don’t have deals like this.

          • willbest

            Because otherwise you couldn’t call it guaranteed money. From Cutler’s perspective his contract looks like

            If I completely F up or the Bears find Rodgers/Luck in the draft this year – $38 mil
            If the find Luck/Rodgers in the draft next year – $48 mil
            If I end up with a career ending injury – $54 mil
            If I perform – $127 mil (or whatever it was)

          • John Doe

            Fuck Cutler’s perspective . I am looking at Bears perspective. He had done nothing to deserver that kind of guarantee.

            Dalton, Kaep etc. do not have that kind of guaranteed money. Teams and GMs were smart to realize the foolishness of Emery in Cutler contract and moved away from it rather than use it as a template.

          • BillW

            But JD – it’s DONE. Can’t undo it no matter how dumb it was.

            Even at my age I keep learning or relearning things. I took over a mess of a job a few years ago and complained for over a year what a mess it was. My boss simply reminded me “it’s YOUR mess now. Stop complaining and fix it.”

            That’s what Pace is trying to do. Got rid of Marshall and his money. Tried to get rid of Cutler and his money. One was doable, the other not.

            I won’t be shocked to see Cutler on the street before the deadline. If I could have paid money to dump the mess I was given in that job, I would have gladly. As it was, I ended up leaving the company.

            Pace has a chance to simply walk away from the Cutler issue. If he doesn’t, it’s no longer Phil Emery’s contract – it’s Ryan Pace’s contract.

          • John Doe

            I am all for dumping Cutler before Thursday.

            The offset clause in the contract will save Bears some money this year (but not the cap hit). But it will all be over this year.

          • willbest

            And that is why you shouldn’t be near anybody’s money but your own.

          • Irish Sweetness

            That’s business suicide. He is/will be worth a first round pick to someone, just maybe not right now.

          • willbest

            Its not just dumping Cutler. Its going into the room with George, Ted, and maybe even Virginia and saying “Yeah the reason why you paying 15.5 million dollars to a guy who isn’t working for you is a good thing is because …..”

          • BerwynBomber

            Exactly. The closest comparison to Cutty in terms of contract and level of play is Alex Smith.

          • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd
          • BillW

            Ah – he still likes me!

          • BillW

            By the way, can I join Mink Loyd? I can play drums, bass, guitar, and a little keys.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Can you play them while on LSD?

          • eins, zwei, drei…

          • Irish Sweetness

            Exactly. 15M a year is not huge for a QB, it’s not a contract that is untradeable by any means.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            actually at some point in time do to signing bonus he was due 22.5 last year but some of that was deferred to this year and next year so the number is closer to 18 mill than the 22.5 mill. i believe his cap hit remained pretty close to the same amount.

          • If no balls Tresty could bench a $20M QB he went all in on, I don’t think Fox with no connection to Cutler will bat an eye in benching Cutler late in the season.
            But hopefully it’s really late and we can use the excuse of “resting” so that the Bears can get something for him.

            In many ways, we’re all stuck.
            Gotta cheer for Cutler now, at the very least, to try to get some draft picks for him to build Bears future.

            But some want to see him crash and burn no matter what.

            And I get it. Cutler is not Mr. Congeniality, and his TOs and his Saint’s game make you want to kick him in the nads.

          • BillW

            I don’t WANT to see him crash and burn. I say give him all the rope you can and see if he hangs himself or uses it to the teams advantage.

            When a guy doesn’t seem to care about winning – he unfortunately starts reminding me of Cade. Who I was VERY happy to watch crash and burn.

            Very few similarities because Jay does work and prepare. But a town like Chicago can’t forgive a guy who seems indifferent toward both success and failure.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hah! This town is very forgiving in Cutty’s case. He is more popular than people sometimes imagine. It just that he is divisive and his critics are often more vocal. The Cutty meatballs are still legion.

          • John Doe

            People don’t like to admit they were wrong. That is what explains Cutler meatballs.

            They have so much emotional investment in Cutler that they lose all objectivity.

            Same thing with hysteria by some when Marshall trade was announced.

      • BerwynBomber

        Not to me but a) Fox has won with less talented QBs in the past, and b) the Cutler meatballs are still a majority on this blog even if they have been silent of late. Moreover, I think that reflects Bears Nation at large. Witness Blogfather’s poll results on Cutty near the end of the ’14 season.

        Keeping him is therefore a popular decision and it I will be interested to see what the Gase O looks like.

        • BillW

          Interested to see what Cutler / Gase offense can do – yes, I admit to wanting Cutler gone but that will be our focal point in 2015.

    • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

      If Cutler is a surly prick who fights with these coaches, he will be out of the league next year. If he goes rogue and does stupid shit, they will bench him without hesitation.

      I could give a fuck if Jay comes to camp surly because they wanted to deal him. Man up or fuck off. Fuck Jay.

      • FourFeathers

        100% on the money. Pace and Fox didn’t screw up anything. Chief takeaway is that they don’t give a flying leap about Cutler’s feelings or surliness. And if Cutler is bent out of shape because of the trade rumors then tough crap. Jay Cutler is either going to grow up in a hurry or find his ass glued to the bench in Fox-land. I LOVE it.

    • BearDown100393

      IMO consider it a pragmatic failure.

    • Nah. They were caught between a rock-and-a-hard-place.
      They were genuinely trying to trade Cutler (no matter what damage control says).
      They knew this from the start, so they couldn’t give Cutler the dreaded, “Vote of confidence” then trade him – they would have lost credibility in that locker room immediately, which is no way to kick-off a tenure.
      On the other hand, they couldn’t ADMIT they were trying to trade Cutler, thus undermining his trade value and creating a media shit storm (it was already beginning to swirl just with rumors and conjecture).

      So, they opted for the 3rd, the “Meh” option. They tried at every opportunity to avoid the media and the “Cutler question” – even got pissed ‘same question, 5 different ways’ –

      This avoids the shit-storm. It gave them some options in the trade market (which was not favorable because of who Cutler is and his contract). while still being “straight shooters” (as much as a coach and GM can be).

      Besides, if Cutler truly doesn’t care, this “slight” won’t bug him. It’s not like it matters anyways. Cutler is a metronome of mediocrity. Nothing will sway him much.

      How he “feels” about it, I couldn’t care less about. He can borrow a journal from Bmarsh.

      • BerwynBomber

        Mostly agree. My only point, albeit implied, about the black eye is that Pace was obviously trying to move him and failed to get it done. I could give a shit about Cutty’s feelings as well.

        • Yeah, in some ways, I could understand it being a “failure” – but I seriously wonder if ANY team wants Cutler AT ALL.

          Seems implausible to some Cutty-backers, or even the more “pragmatic” – Cutler is a starting QB camp.

          Cutler might have the tools to start in the NFL, but do YOU want him to lead your nfl team/offense?

          Those are two very different questions, and I suspect the market has spoken.

          Some want to lay it on Cutler’s contract being too prohibitive, but perhaps it wasn’t his contract.

          Perhaps it was just Cutler. I mentioned it before, but sometimes the NFL turns cold on a player VERY fast, and they go from Star to back up to out of the league rather fast.

          Closest comparison I have is with McNabb and his lackadaisical attitude which Owens called him out on.

          • BerwynBomber

            That is my hunch too. I doubt any team wanted him, even for something as little as seventh round compensation.

            In terms of the market’s reasons — I would say it is a little of both: Cutty himself and contract. Age may have played a part too, though I suppose that falls under the Cutty himself rubric.

            Ah well. It assures us of Waffle for another year.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Again, Sun Tzu from The Art of War. If in doubt, do nothing.

  • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

    This little Domer prick here:

    http://www.49ers.com/team/staff/jed-york/5351bb0b-a0c8-46c1-bc2c-a134a1246297

    He’s going to run his daddy’s team into the dirt.

    • John Doe

      Kid Dork is something else..

      Scott Kacsmar @FO_ScottKacsmar

      1/18/2014: 49ers took a 17-13 lead into the 4th QT of the NFC-C with Seattle facing 3rd-and-22.

      Just 13.5 months later & they’re in ruins.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah, it is bizarre.

      • Trac

        Golden rule in running an organization is principles over personalities.

    • BillW

      Would probably get carded if he walked into a bar without his entourage in Chicago.

      Seriously, that look on face says “I have no idea how to run a football team – but I’m running one and you’re not!”

    • BearDown100393

      I’m okay with it.

    • Trac

      I don’t see how you can say that. Yet. The 49er s have had an impressive 4 year run. We shall see.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Well, they DO seem to be bleeding talent profusely.and candidates for their coaching vacancies seemed to approach them like they were live ordinance.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Jed York.The poster child for “Spoiled Rich Kid Who Doesn’t Have A Clue About Running A Football Franchise.”

      Jed York or Michael McCaskey to ruin, er, run your franchise?

      As always, Death is not an option.

      • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

        Oh but I so WANT death in that choice.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    At the moment Bears are connected to Dan Williams and Ron Parker. As cheaper alternatives to Pot Roast and Rahim Moore

    • John Doe

      Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL · 2m2 minutes ago
      According to @JosinaAnderson #Bears are 1 of 3 teams in “active talks” with Safety Da’Norris Searcy.

  • Jim Mora, UCLA HC, didn’t exactly endorse Hundley. I think his exact words were, “He’ll be ready in the right situation in a couple of years…”
    So, in two years Hundley should be “NFL ready”.
    I was actually quite surprised since HCs usually blow sunshine up their player’s ass, esp on ProDays.
    I expect him to “rephrase” it somehow later, but I think that was his genuine evaluation.

    On the flip side, Mora seemed pretty high on Mariotta.

    • John Doe

      Hundley is a project no doubt. He was bad last year. the whole running QB to pocket passer transiiton is always iffy.

      I hope Pace gets one of these QBs in mid to late rounds.

      Bryce Petty Baylor 6’3″230 rSr
      Garrett Grayson Colorado State 6’2″ 220 rSr
      Brandon Bridge South Alabama 6’5″ 235 rSr
      Shane Carden East Carolina 6’2″ 221 Sr
      Connor Halliday Washington State 6’4″ 201Sr

      • BerwynBomber

        I like Petty although he is 24 and like all these mid-round QBs the odds are against him being anything but a bench guy, if that.

        Will have to google Bridge. His size intrigues. Despite the success of Wilson, Brees and even Rodgers, it is the 6’4 and above statues who usually thrive in the NFL.

        • John Doe

          Check this out on Brandon Bridge.. especially the third gif where he makes a great throw on the run..

          http://nflmocks.com/2015/02/03/brandon-bridge-2015-nfl-scouting-report/

          • willbest

            Looks like Geno Smith.

          • BerwynBomber

            Hah! You may be prove more right than me. But Geno doesn’t quite have that size does he?

          • willbest

            Geno is 6’3″ so Bridge does have a couple inches. Incidentally I think Geno Smith could have been a lot better if he spent a couple years as #2 instead of being a rookie starter. So I wouldn’t have any issues drafting this guy as long as he spends 2015 holding a clipboard (or Surface, I guess they hold Surfaces these days)

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, I’m sure Bridge is raw as hell. Anyway, with Cutty returning I would be shocked if the Bears even consider starting a rookie unless the season totally goes up in smoke.

          • John Doe

            Some have tagged him “baby Kaepernick”

          • BerwynBomber

            Looks a little like college R-berger. Consider me officially intrigued.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Don’t watch college ball, but I hear Petty’s name a lot as being potentially solid in the NFL. Ryan Fitz can play now though. We already have a developmental QB on the roster.

  • John Doe

    Cecil Lammey @CecilLammey · 13m13 minutes ago
    The TE market heating up, expect some surprises once new league year begins. Virgil Green choosing between #Broncos & #Bears #NFLFreeAgency

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      shocking a Free Agent market heating up when its close to time Free Agency actually opens. who would have thought?

  • I heard that Fox specifically targeted McPhee because he likes to get “tough” “gritty” players on D.

    I like the sound of that.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Just glad that we are done with the midgets of the Angelo era.

  • John Doe

    Opportunity here.. Could really help cover Calvin Johnson and big TEs..


    Albert Breer @AlbertBreer · 15m15 minutes ago
    Per source, Brandon Browner won’t take a paycut to stay in New England. So they either exercise his option as it stands, or cut him by 4 ET.

    • BerwynBomber

      I would be surprised if he is not cut. He is a decent CB but he incurs a ton of penalties.

      • John Doe

        But he gets the job done. Seattle wrote the book on how to keep pushing boundaries on beating up on WRs. Their policy is just keep fouling them so much that they cannot throw flags on all of them.

        He did good job on CJ last year.

        • willbest

          That more than anything is the reason I dislike Richard Sherman’s talk about how great he is. Take your damn hands off the receiver after 5 yards instead of 7-8 and see if you can compete with Revis.

          • BerwynBomber

            Meh. Revis does it too although maybe not as often.

            Anyway, I have no problem with “physical” corners. The game and its rules are increasingly slanted toward arena football-like passing offenses. Allowing some hand-checking and even a few furtive jersey tugs is fine by me.

            One thing I liked last year about the officiating is that the league seemed to be calling more O PI calls than ever before.

          • willbest

            I don’t mind that style of play. But when you got some CBs and coaches trying to adhere to the rules as written, and others pushing the envelope and relying on the “well the police can’t catch all the speeders” mentality, they shouldn’t go around bragging about how they arrived someplace first.

            I do like seeing OPI getting called though.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Playing with “Good” teams he can get away with more.

        With the Bears the Zebras would happily flag him every other down.

  • John Doe

    Jeff Legwold @Jeff_Legwold · 1m1 minute ago
    Virgil Green has informed #Bears hes staying with #Broncos.

    • willbest

      Damn… if for nothing other than the name Virgil. Don’t see many of those under 65

      • AlbertInTucson

        “They call me MISTER Tibbs.” – Virgil Tibbs / In The Heat of the Night.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    So, for now, the only commitment is McPhee?

    • willbest

      For another 45 minutes. Then they can put ink to paper

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Rejected by Dan Williams and Pot Roast.

    • John Doe

      that is good news actually. Spending $6 million on DT doesn’t make much sense when the drafted is loaded with big run stuffers..

      I would rather overpay some to get Searcy.

      • Irish Sweetness

        They might be feeling Shelton in the draft if they don’t sign Knighton.

  • BerwynBomber

    So Gore to the Colts. This might be a blessing in disguise for Philly. Heckuva an RB but major mileage/age.

    • AlbertInTucson

      I would be concerned about his mileage too, but Luck at QB he doesn’t have to be the show in Indy.

      Irsay is flying Gore in on his private jet.

      Gore’s college teammate, FA Andre Johnson, is also on that plane.

      • willbest

        Whats $25k to a billionaire.

        • Trac

          A tax deduction.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Only saves him about $10k in federal taxes tho.

          • willbest

            He gets to spend 25k making a couple players feeling special, or he can pocket 15k and give 10k to Uncle Sam

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Other way around, but yeah, it’s all still chump change for him…

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          for Irsay drugs for a weekend

          • willbest

            Is he a bachelor? Does he get the bring break honeys to show up at his beachfront property for booze and coke? Or are you talking about some sort of crazy cancer treatment.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            Irsay got busted for prescription drugs and cocaine last year and is a “recovering” alcoholic.

          • Trac

            Breakfast at the Copa.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Jimmy Graham to the Seahawks…yikes.

    • willbest

      So they have 1 legitimate target now

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        So by that logic they went to back to back superbowl’s with no legitimate targets, imagine how dangerous they’ll be now.

        • willbest

          ah the benefits of having a top 15 QB on a rookie contract

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          had to be a trade. i wander what they gave up for him?

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Saints get:
            Max Unger, C
            1st Round Pick

            Seattle gets:
            Jimmy G.
            4th Round Pick

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            good deal for the Saints who are desperately trying to get under the Cap. and they needed a center.

          • willbest

            Brees is going to have to earn his paycheck this year.

          • BerwynBomber

            He pretty much earns it every year, Mr. Defender of the Jay Cutler contract. 😉

          • John Doe

            Ha! good one.

          • BerwynBomber

            It was a huge meatball, waist-high, straight down the middle of the plate.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Just read that unless they re-do Unger’s deal, Saints will actually be taking on cap to do the deal.

          • willbest

            Graham has 11.9 million of dead money. So they are going to have to do something else.

          • willbest

            Their first round pick (which is technically a 2nd rounder cause its 31)

    • BerwynBomber

      Good move by the Saints if they can pull it off.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah they get a legit C who is under contract for 2 more yrs. at $9M and a 1st rounder. Not a bad haul.

        • BerwynBomber

          The other thing is I actually think Brees plays better when he is not overly-reliant on Graham, as silly as that sounds.

          They re-structured Colston too, which helps them. Big thing for them is that Bryd contract but they’re stuck there for now.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “With the brilliant & breathtaking manner in which the Packers run their organization it is no surprise they win the Super Bowl every year.”

    Yeah, they are not nearly as ruthless when it comes to personnel decisions as the Patriots, and that and arguably McCarthy are what holds them back.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Haloti Ngata traded to the Lions.

    • Trac

      Quick draw Mcgraw. Lol

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        i’m on it faster than Aaron Leming…LOL!

        • Johnnywad

          Well that’s impossible

  • John Doe

    Kittens….


    Aaron Leming @AaronLemingNFL · 1m1 minute ago
    Ngata to the Lions too. Wow. Welcome to the new league year… 7 minutes early.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Antrel Rolle in the fold, meh!

  • John Doe

    Noooo. Same shit as last year.. Bears end up signing lame ass safeties that will again be no good.


    Jen Lada @JenLada · 2m2 minutes ago
    Hearing the #Bears will sign S Antrel Rolle. #NFLFreeAgency

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Bradford to Philly for Foles/Picks.

    • BerwynBomber

      Wow. Didn’t see that one coming.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Talented, but he (Bradford) is so reminiscent of The Chandelier.

        • BerwynBomber

          Yep, I like it for STL. Damn, I was kinda looking forward to Kelly outwitting everyone after the last two years but this and the Maxwell and Gore deals are casting a lot of doubt.

    • willbest

      WTF shouldn’t it be bradford and picks for Foles

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Zoolander 2 is in the works, this day is getting worse by the minute.

    • willbest

      I have fond memories of the first one

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      new Ghostbusters movie now has a male cast instead of female.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        You can’t reboot that classic without completely messing it up

        • AlbertInTucson

          Only one I can think of that didn’t is the remake of TRUE GRIT.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            I wish Hollywood would stop raping my childhood.

      • BillW

        No – they are doing BOTH; and trying to start a GB Franchise

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          good catch BillW. I just saw the headline and did not read the article.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Aaron Leming ‏@AaronLemingNFL 23s23 seconds ago
    I’m being told the signing of SS Antrel Rolle only means competition with Ryan Mundy. Da’Norris Searcy and Ron Parker still possible.#

    Stealing your bit John Doe

  • John Doe

    So Sam Bradford has a trade market but Jake Cutler doesn’t. Fuck Phil Emery.

  • BerwynBomber

    I guess Kelly knew he couldn’t get Mariota.

    • willbest

      No Kelly is flat out insane if he is trading Foles (and his cheap contract) plus picks for brittle Bradford and his large pay.

      • BerwynBomber

        Yeah I kinda beat you to the punch on that negative read (for Philly) of the trade below. But I don’t know if that discounts the fact that Kelly knew he couldn’t offer TENN enough to move up and nab Mariota.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        He’s on a 1 year deal for ~$13M.

        • willbest

          Bradford has attempted 262 passes in the last 2 years.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            He’s out of the NFC West tho, he may actually make it through a season now…LOL!

  • John Doe

    I still think Jets won’t pass up on Mariota or Browns will jump to #5 or #6 to get Mariota.

    But if he is there at #7, trade with Browns.


    Andrew Dannehy @ChiBearsAD · 6m6 minutes ago
    It now looks better than 50/50 that Mariota will be there at 7. I know #Bears like him. Depending on who is available, they may take him.

    • Trac

      No way the Bears can afford to draft mariota. It would be most unfortunate if we draft him.

      • BerwynBomber

        Why not? If they think he is eventually a top 10 QB you climb over dead bodies to get him.

        • Trac

          Top 10 QB’s don’t fall to the 7th spot.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, that never happens.

            Honestly …

          • Trac

            Not sure how many of those teams had a pourus succulous D.

          • BerwynBomber

            Who cares? You said top 10 QBs don’t drop to #7, which is a fucking silly comment.

            Hell, I don’t know if Mariota is the guy but if Pace thinks he is and he is there then he takes him.

          • Trac

            Stop being such a child. What I’m saying is that you’re full of shit if you think Mariota is a top ten NFL QB talent and we don’t need to draft a qb this year when we need to put some studs on our Defense. No way in hell Mariota will be the 7th BPA when the Bears select at the 7th spot.

          • BerwynBomber

            Who’s being a child? I’m calling your “no top 10 QB fall to #7” bullshit. Argue that it is not without name-calling.
            Try it. See if you can do it.

          • Trac

            How is it a silly comment? It’s my opinion.

          • BerwynBomber

            It is silly because I gave you facts that reveal it as false. Again … Rodgers, Brady, Brees, R-berger, Wilson ….

            If you don’t think the Bears should draft a QB that high then say that. But not some BS that top 10 QBs never drop to #7. It is silly, stupid and untrue.

          • Trac

            I never meant that top 10 qbs havent slippled, what i meant was Mariota is closer to Jake Locker talent than Tom Brady. I think you misunderstood my reason for those comments. In my opinion, Mariota would be a terrible mistake for the Bears at this time.

      • Scott W.

        Spot-on. That cost would be obscene.

        • BerwynBomber

          What cost? He would be on a rookie contract.

          • Scott W.

            Wasn’t just referring to the money or cap. The trade cost would, I believe be far too high a price for a team trying to build a defense almost from the ground up.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pointless to take a QB in the first the is year when we have a team to build first IMO.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    We had to give up a 7th rounder in the BMarsh trade! WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!

    • willbest

      Which just goes to show, Marshall had to go, but Cutler they could work with.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      link?

      • willbest

        It was confirmed on Waddle & Silvy

    • Big Mike

      That’s some bullshit. Guy must have been toxic.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Get the fuck out of here. Not that we need 7th round picks, just on principle. Who gives up picks to get rid of a stud?

  • AlbertInTucson

    “DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    So Marcus Mariota is the second coming & his former coach – who reportedly loves him – won’t pursue him because he has Bradford & Sanchez?”

    I think he is just conceding that trading up from 8th or 10th is one thing but trading up from 20th is a whole different task. One he wasn’t willing to pay the price for.

    He want to address his defense. His defense was why the Eagles only won 10 games last season.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yeah I read that as Kelly knew he couldn’t move up to get Mariota.

      The Bradford deal makes no sense. The Sanchez purported contract of $5M is fine.

      • Sanchez is too much of a TO machine (a poor man’s Cutler). Kelly knows you can’t win consistently with that type of QB (one of many reasons he probably covets Mariotta).

        He’d rather gamble on China Doll Bradford than TO prone QBs like Sanchize (and Cutler for that matter).

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      He just got some more ammo, Rams sending a 2nd to Philly as part of the deal.

    • Scott W.

      Agreed. Good post.

    • Scott W.

      …and while we’re both here, Al, let me put in another plug for you to go visit Canyon De Chelley. One of the natives there told me the very best time, when all the tourists have gone back home, is 1st week of October. I’m actually “in talks” with my wife about going back this year, around then.
      Lost my appendix my 1st night there, so visit got cut short. Really want to see it for a longer time, and it’s damned well worth it.

  • John Doe

    Jeremy Stoltz @BearReport · 2m2 minutes ago
    Phil Emery would’ve signed three guys by now.

  • John Doe

    Chicago Sports News @ChiSportUpdates · 18s19 seconds ago
    Source: Bears have signed WR Eddie Royal

    • Trac

      I like this signing.

      • willbest

        What does he specialize in?

        • Trac

          He’s fast. We needed a burner.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Slot guy.

          • Trac

            He could have been promised the #2.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            That, I don’t like.

          • Big Mike

            Redskin castoff don’t do anything for me.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            Played for the Chargers

          • Irish Sweetness

            And Broncos.

          • Big Mike

            he used to be fast, is he still?

          • Trac

            Reminds me of Johnny Knox but a better route runner.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            and he hasn’t kissed his own ass.

          • Bear Down in Tampa

            upside down. Damn Seahawks.

          • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

            Fuckin harsh

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            yeah a little bit. but my sources tell me that Knox is ok with it.

          • Not sure if he’s still fast like that. I think he fits ‘more quick than fast’
            But he was very effective with Rivers.
            But, that was Rivers, not Cutler.

        • Scharfinator

          Being old.

          • willbest

            He turns 29 in a couple months so he is 2 years younger than BMarsh

          • Scharfinator

            I actually hadn’t realized he was only 28 – googled him after I posted. It feels like he has been around longer than that.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Catching TD passes. He was fantasy gold for a while. Wes Welker type.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Yessss!

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Adam Schefter ‏@AdamSchefter 57s57 seconds ago
    Giants S Antrel Rolle is visiting Bears: no deal in place.

    Hold the phone!

    • Big Mike

      he’s a 100 years old

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        I know, scroll down a bit, people were reporting it as a done deal. Which saddened me, but this made me feel better.

  • Big Mike

    Bears have agreed to terms with S Antrel Rolle

    • Big Mike

      Giants 360
      ‏@Giants360
      1m1 minute ago
      Antrel Rolle is visiting the Bears, hasn’t signed yet. Reports shifted on a dime. #NFLFreeAgency

  • willbest

    Waddle & Silvy

    Bradford + 2nd rounder for Foles

    • BerwynBomber

      Wait, so STL gave up the pick? That makes a whole fuck a lot more sense.

      • Bear Down in Tampa

        Yeah it didn’t seem that way at 1st

      • Big Mike

        So a guy who can’t stay on the field and is basically unproven at this point in his career is worth a 2nd Rounder and foles. Would you say that Pace couldn’t get that much for Cutler than?

        • BerwynBomber

          Looks that way. Unless you believe Cutler wasn’t being shopped, which I find hard to believe. Or that Pace would be stupid enough to pass up the deal.

          Funny, I had thoughts of us getting Foles and picks if Mariota fell to #7 and we had jettisioned Cutty elsewhere.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Aaron Leming ‏@AaronLemingNFL 27s28 seconds ago
    Eddie Royal is a great #3 option for this team. Averaged 700 yards over the past two years & brings a speed element. Good slot. #

    • willbest

      Amusingly he is a Cutler guy from Broncos

      • BerwynBomber

        Another Cutty guy. Funny.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Adam Jahns retweeted
    Dianna Marie Russini ‏@NBCdianna 6m6 minutes ago
    I’m told WR Eddie Royal will be signing with The Chicago Bears. He loves Jay Cutler per sources.

    • Irish Sweetness

      He’ll be sad to see him go then.

  • Big Mike

    Still can’t believe we had to throw in a 7th round pick to get rid of Marshall. WTF is that.

    • Trac

      It’s called begging.

      • Big Mike

        disgraceful

        • Trac

          The contract Emery gave him?

          • Big Mike

            That we had to pay to get rid of him, because our last head coach was a pussy.

          • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

            That we agree upon.

    • Scott W.

      Hell, I’m still disappointed he’s gone.

  • John Doe

    Ty Youngfelt @TyYoungfelt · 4m4 minutes ago
    Hearing Searcy still in play for Bears as of a minute ago…may be one reason Rolle deal not ‘official’

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    I’m done with the updates, everyone’s info is phuked up.

    • BerwynBomber

      Oh, come on. Persevere, BDP.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Chris Conte is coming down here for a visit.

    • willbest

      Good for him. He has talent, he just can’t stay on the field.

  • John Doe

    Lovie getting the band back together again.. Signed Major Wright last week. and now this.

    Chicago Sports News @ChiSportUpdates · 9s9 seconds ago
    Chris Conte flying to Tampa for a visit with the Buccaneers in a few hours

  • willbest

    Lol Silvy is basically sort of connecting the dots that they still love them some Cutler
    1) Fights with Marshall. Dump Marshall
    2) Loves the new QB coach
    3) Brings in Eddie Royal

    • BerwynBomber

      Could be right. Weird.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      connect the dots la la la

    • Eddie Royal was like a make-up argument gift after they couldn’t give Cutler away.
      “It’s ok, baby, she was just a co-worker at a company dinner. Nothing was there. Here, don’t you like these nice earrings I got you?”

  • Huge Bear’s Penis

    i don’t remember there being this many “big” trades in the past at the start of FA. a little shocked because of the Cap increases

  • John Doe

    Nooooo…Jake

    Mike Garafolo @MikeGarafolo · 46s47 seconds ago

    QB Jake Locker is retiring. Wow.

  • willbest

    I don’t know if Chip is done.

    He can send. Rams 2nd, Eagles 1st this and next year, and Sanchez or Bradford for Titans #2

    • BerwynBomber

      But wouldn’t Foles be more enticing than Bradford?

      • willbest

        There were reports the Titans were interested in Sanchez

        • BerwynBomber

          Sanchez, IMV, was the best bridge guy available. I could see the rationale from both teams’ perspective.

  • Bear Down in Tampa

    Brad Biggs retweeted
    Drew Rosenhaus ‏@RosenhausSports 25s26 seconds ago
    Antrel Rolle is visiting the Bears but DOES NOT have any agreement with them or any other team at this time

    From the Agent!!

    • John Doe

      so this Ty guy was right…

      Ty Youngfelt @TyYoungfelt · 14m14 minutes ago

      Hearing Searcy still in play for Bears as of a minute ago…may be one reason Rolle deal not ‘official’

    • AlbertInTucson

      And agents ALWAYS tell you the truth.

  • BerwynBomber

    Score says Paea to DC.

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      Wonder how much guaranteed $.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        4yr 5+mill a year

  • EnderWiggin

    Hmmmm Eddie Royal? Would this bring MB back?

    • Scott W.

      One thing about MB, he didn’t carpet bomb the blog with other people’s tweets or genuflect to unsourced rumor mills.
      But I think it will take more than an Eddie Royal signing. I was surprised the Fox hiring didn’t resurrect him, but my guess is he just got fed up with the comments.

      • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

        He was, however, a big fan of bombing carpets.

        • Scott W.

          Maybe that’s it. He’s still trying to vacuum all the blond hairs out of his.

  • Scott W.

    What an appropriate video Jeff. Good choice. All hail Revis, apparently.

  • BillW

    Free agency – where players that other teams don’t want are viewed as saviors. And players that other teams would rather keep are ALLOWED to leave because their free market value is WAY over their performance value.

    Good teams keep the players they need to. Bad team salivate over guys that are essentially castoffs OR aren’t worth the money.

    Angelo and Emery would have overpaid for at least one if not two or three guys by now. The fact we are relatively quiet today in my opinion is a good sign.

    • willbest

      We already signed 1 guy. We are apparently the high bidder Rolle, and Oakland is apparently out on Pot Roast.

      • BillW

        The key word was “relatively”. We have two at most and neither is headline grabbing. Again, a good thing in my opinion. (Well, maybe Rolle if it happens but based on past rep, not future performance.) If we give him a big contract then I stand corrected.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He’s 32. Fuck that. Signing Rahim Moore is re-building, Rolle’s a re-tread looking for retirement money.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      yeah…Emery overpaid everybody. Even the fucking bartender.

      Strangely, though, the Bears have tons of cap space.

      Is it me or it makes no sense ?

      • Bennett has outperformed his deal. So did Young. Bushrod and Allen are only 2 terrible deals.

        • willbest

          The Allen deal was more unfortunate than it was terrible. Pneumonia took him out of football shape for 4 weeks, and after that the Bears were playing down 2-3 scores so rushing the passer became a secondary concern. And even when opposing teams did throw the ball the LBs and DBs couldn’t cover opponents for 2.5 seconds. And this year he doesn’t fit the scheme and the contract he signed was back loaded to make the cap work last year.

          • I’ll never forget the 1st DET game. Allen absolutely dominated, but only got 1 QB hit because Stafford was able to get rid of the ball so fast. There were multiple plays where he literally got by the opposing LT as fast as possible and still was too late. It was ridiculous.

          • willbest

            I remember that game. I accidentally kicked the coffee table and knocked my beer over.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Allen wasn’t a day 1 of FA sign. It came later when Emery understood he had few other options and a blatant lack of leadership on D. So he signed him as the face of the D knowing he’s no longer a dominant player very game.

            looking at the big picture, he wouldn’t have signed him if he wasn’t in such a good cap situation… 30 M of cap space this year, including a 10+M Allen hit.

          • willbest

            Well last year they had to eat 8-9 million for peppers and another 1-2 for Bush. So he basically spent that money. And then this year the cap went up 10 mil, Briggs was coming off the books, Cutler’s hit was going to be lower

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Sure…he knew he’d have 30+ M of cap space in 2015 and 2016. By 2017 Cutler was ‘releasable’.

            Emery gave Allen a bad contract, because he knew he could handle it and he really needed some swagger and leadership.

        • I don’t think Bushrod was grossly overpaid, given the WebbNation experiment we suffered through.
          He was always a solid technician who relied on scheme (Kromer’s) and work to keep the pocket clean, and I think he did fine his first year, but regressed a little last year.
          Esp when you compare the top two LT options at the time (LT Long has been inj, and might even retired), I think Bushrod has done what he was paid to do. Not be a liability.

          Allen, well, we’ll see. I don’t go by one good/bad year to evaluate, esp when the player was hampered.

          I also don’t see why Allen can’t prosper standing up. His game relied on speed/bend/savvy more than Pepp’s.

          Allen’s natural weight is in the 260s. On paper it looks like he can be an effective pass rusher, but perhaps an XandO evaluation is needed to project him standing up.

          I guess we’ll find out either way with his contract.

          • I don’t think Bushrod was ridiculously overpaid, but he was overpaid. Same with Allen.

          • BerwynBomber

            But the difference is Pepp has always been all-around D player. Allen has always been a pass rush specialist.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          The Bushrod deal -slightly average player- doesn’t bother me. I don’t know what options there were that season, but after JJ Web-Carimi Emery rebuild the OL.

          Bushrod was a vested vet, Saints LT, Super Bowl champion, new OL coach’s voice, leadership skills.

          When you change 4/5 of the OL you could do much, much worse that that. The agent of the player sends you to the bleachers because he knows you not only want him, but you need him on the field, in the film room and in the locker room.

          • Bushrod also seems to be shaping up as a leader. Once Garza is gone – he’ll probably be the leader of that Oline along with Long.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Kyle’s the leader on O methinks, he just needs Jay to GTFO.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            He has leadership skills, but I see him gone at the end of this year.

          • BerwynBomber

            Bushrod has been okay. Slightly overpaid but you can live with his level of play. 3/5 of the Bears starting O-line is average to above average. I would argue that puts them in competent department in comparison to rest of the league.

            But that is counting on Slauson making a full recovery.

            I thought PE did a pretty good job in rebuilding the O-line.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Pretty good job ? He was astounding rebuilding the OL. And the TE position. And the WR corp.

          • guest

            My goodness, the OL was a joke last year. Bushrod was J’Webb Nation bad on Joe Thomas contract, as someone put it mildly. Kyle ‘Avesome’ Long was blown up 4 times against Tampa. That’s your best player. Overrated talent at almost every position.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Bullshit !!! B_U_L_L_S_H_I_T

            Here’s Pro Football Focus rankings from 2010-2011-2012 (before) and 2013-2014 (with Emery’s rebuild line). In the 3 years before the Bears OL averaged 31st in the NFL, after the re-buid it averaged 17th in the NFL.

            2010
            ***31*** Chicago Bears (2009 Rank: 26th)

            Run Rank 21st, Pass Rank 32nd, Penalties Rank 31st

            On the plus side, Jay Cutler is somehow still walking. Any lineman who played considerable snaps graded worse than -10.0 in our ratings, with one at -20.4 (Chris Williams), another at -31.6 (Frank Omiyale) and the worst at -42.7 (J’Marcus Webb). Brutal blocking in pretty much every respect that you makes you appreciate the work of the skill players all the more.

            Best Player: With a -12.4 grade, Roberto Garza was the ‘best’ of a bad bunch.

            Biggest Concern: You’d expect J’Marcus Webb to improve a little in year number two, but he has a long way to go. Let’s hope Gabe Carimi is NFL ready.

            2011
            ***32*** Chicago Bears (ranked 31st in the NFL in 2010)

            Run Rank 31st, Pass Rank 31st, Penalties Rank 25th

            Does this really surprise anyone? The Bears at least attempted to rectify their horrible offensive line by drafting Gabe Carimi, only for the tackle to manage 100 snaps before a dislocated knee ended his year. It left them with a group of individuals who struggle to get much push in the run game, and aren’t much better in pass protection. You’d struggle to find a line that performed as badly as the Bears over the years.

            Best Player: By default, this was Edwin Williams (+0.5), though this is more of a reflection on the rest of the line which amassed a combined -116.1 grade.

            Worst Player: Take your pick. J’Marcus Webb (-26.2) was a failure on the left side, but even he was outdone by Lance Louis (-35.6). Louis should never have moved out to tackle and it really showed down the stretch; in no game more so than when he gave up five sacks to a Chiefs defense that simply destroyed him.

            2012
            ***30*** Chicago Bears ( 32)

            PB – 28th, RB – 27th, PEN – 30th

            Stud: I never thought I’d see the day where not only would J’Marcus Webb (-0.8) not be the weak link on this line, but also be the most consistent performer. He took a huge step forward this year in becoming an adequate left tackle. You can win football games with them.

            Dud: Take your pick. Ultimately it has to be the man who is on the path to ‘Bustville’, Gabe Carimi (-10.1). The former first-round pick does get push in the run game, but he’s horribly overmatched when he gets on his heels. That’s a horrible habit for an offensive tackle who earned his late benching.

            Summary: They don’t make life easy for Jay Cutler and they make their running backs earn every yard. However you measure them this line just isn’t good enough, to the point where the best performers are the guys who just don’t get beat with regularity.

            2013
            ***19*** Chicago Bears (30th)
            Pass Blocking Ranking: 29th, Run Blocking Ranking:11th , Penalties Ranking: 9th

            Stud: Jets fans will remember Matt Slauson (+20.2) as a solid player. So they’ll be surprised with how he upped his game in Chicago, being the surprise of a unit that is very much in rebuild mode.

            Dud: It’s always harsh to label a rookie a dud but Jordan Mills (-31.1) gave up way too many hurries (78 combined quarterback disruptions) and will need to fix this issue in Year 2.

            Analysis: A significant step forward. Considering they had four new starters, they can be happy with the output after the shambles the line had become. You might question if they overspent on Jermon Bushrod (they did), but they did improve the play of their left tackle and got their rookies on the right side some much needed experience.

            2014
            ***15*** Chicago Bears (19th)

            Pass Blocking Ranking: 17th, Run Blocking Ranking: 12th, Penalties Ranking: 23rd

            Stud: A steadier second season from Kyle Long (+12.1) who has begun to look the part in pass protection. His rookie year would suggest he’s got more in his locker in the run game, though.

            Dud: A massive improvement from Jordan Mills (-15.7), but he still gives up too much pressure at this stage of his career. If he can have the leap forward from Year 2 to 3 that he had from last year, that should correct things.

            Breakdown: If nothing else, Phil Emery left the legacy of a much better line than the one he inherited. While Jay Cutler remains the lightning rod for criticism, the line was often shaky in pass protection. Injuries didn’t help, but it’s rare you’ll avoid them completely.

  • willbest

    Shaun Hill to back up Teddy Bridgewater.

    • BerwynBomber

      Half-decent back-up behind a young starter. Hate to say it, but I like what Minny has been doing of late. The resolution of the AP issue will be interesting.

      • willbest

        His name was floated about as a bridge guy for the Bears if they traded Cutler. All the “good” backups are getting wrapped up. I think you can look at the Pickles signing a couple days ago, as the implicit commitment to the status quo (cutler/clausen/fales/draft pick/UFA) for 2015

        • BerwynBomber

          Yep I wondered that aloud here at the time of the Clausen signing. Could be the Bears roll with the same three QBs as last year.

          • John Doe

            They may roll with 4. Same 3 from last year if David Fales shows promise + whoever they draft.

            Roster will increase to 55 this year. Hang on to Fales too and continue his development. Hoyer took 2-3 years to develop in New England.

          • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

            Cutty, Pickle and David Fails.

            Lovely. Camp is shaping up great. (rolls eyes)

  • John Doe

    God @TheTweetOfGod · 22m22 minutes ago
    I’m omniscient but even I don’t know what the Philadelphia Eagles are doing.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Bum Lovie releases his franchise LT. Man…he’s lame.

  • John Doe

    NFL Draft Diamonds @DraftDiamonds · 16m16 minutes ago
    Breaking: Matt Cassel has not reported to Buffalo; Trade contingent on physical – http://nfldraftdiamonds.com/breaking-matt-cassel-has-not-reported-to-buffalo-trade-contingent-on-physical/

    • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

      Johnny Dough is like DBB’s own copy of Tweetdeck.

      • BerwynBomber

        Cool by me. Either him or BDT. I think we know the real reason guys whine about JD and it has less to do with Twitter and more to do with his thoughts on our starting QB.

        Re-tweets are pretty easy to scroll past.

        • Huge Bear’s Penis

          i disagree – the constant stream of tweets is annoying. it would be one thing if they all actually reported something, seriously he posted a tweet that FA was heating up. well no shit.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well I disagree with your disagree. 😉
            It probably is a little of both but there is a mostly silent majority of Cutty fans on this blog (they will upvote the shit out of Waffle’s pro-Cutty screeds) and JD I’m sure pisses them off. Same with FF.

  • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

    League Source’s Wife: Sorry, Jeff, League Source died.

    AAAAAAAAAAAAAwk-ward.

  • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

    I’m willing to deal my 7th round draft pick in the fantasy draft to bring Waffle back.

    • I wonder if we traded Cutler, if Waffle would’ve drafted Cutler on the Titans, or Clausen on the Bears?
      Hmmmmmm

  • Interesting.

    The Raiders are not pursuing free agent DT Terrance Knighton.
    Knighton says both Oakland and Denver are “out of the race” for his services. He says he was low-balled by Oakland. Knighton appears frustrated and surprised by his slow-developing market. Perhaps Oakland or Denver will eventually swoop in and buy low. Knighton has also been connected to the Redskins, Colts and Bears. – Roto

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      If it’s a buy low scenario he surely will not chose teams like the Broncos, Bears and Raiders.

      He’d be insulted by his formers not ‘stepping up’.

  • Cormonster

    Great song choice Jeff. Love that movie.

  • wow, remember when we were all clamoring for OG Cooper. He looks like a colossal bust thus far.

    Cardinals signed OG Mike Iupati, formerly of the 49ers, to a five-year, $40 million contract.
    The deal is worth “up to” $41 million, and includes $22.5 million guaranteed. It’s a coup for the Cardinals, who have long had issues at guard, and struggled to clear anything resembling lanes in the running game. Iupati is one of the league’s premier run blockers. He played left guard in San Francisco, and should do the same in Arizona. That means Jonathan Cooper will be shifted to the right side, center or possibly even bench. – Roto

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That draft was full of Joe Thomases and Marshall Yandas.

      All average players.

    • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

      Cooper was, by some pundits mouths, a once-in-a-generation talent at guard.

      • John Doe

        Dude got badly injured in OTAs I think. Didn’t even make to training camp.

        He has never been the same after that severe injury to his foot.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Now if he had lots of space he would have been great for us, moving Long out to RT, provided we get Garza the #@$% out of that line.

  • wreckinball

    Jays here, they tried to get rid of him unfortunately no one wants him

    • EnderWiggin

      From what I understand, they did not try any such thing. They just left the door open. Big difference.

      • wreckinball

        Door now closed. I think Bears were probably not willing to pick up enough $$s for anyone to be interested

      • John Doe

        Ok. If that makes you feel better….

  • We need to somehow start a fundraiser to send Waffle to debate Stephen A.
    Jim Rome can moderate.

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12455116

    • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

      Hooooooooly sheeeeeeeeeeeeeet.

      Reee-diculous. In-credible.

  • willbest

    I misreported what was misreported early The Eagles give 2016 – 2nd, 2015 4th, and Nick Foles. The Eagles get Bradford and Rams 2015 5th round pick.

    Eagles also get 2016 4th round pick (3rd round if Bradford doesn’t play 8 games)

    So I am back to wondering WTF.

    • wreckinball

      Must think Sam is worth it I’m perplexed by it also

      • willbest

        The Ram’s GM must have balls so big he needs a wheelbarrow to get around.
        Chip: “Hey I would like Bradford”
        Rams GM: “oh really, well I guess I might consider it. He is awfully important to us here.”
        Chip: “I have Nick Foles”
        Rams: “hm… I don’t know, what else are you offering?”

    • BerwynBomber

      Yep, makes no sense. Horrendous deal for Philly.

      • John Doe

        Peter King was saying that Chip Kelly really like Bradford and went hard after him. Apparently Bradford played in a similar system at Oklahoma.

        Kelly plans to keep and start Bradford and not use him as a piece to move up and get Mariota. At least that is what people have heard.

        • BerwynBomber

          Maybe but as someone pointed out earlier, Kelly could still put together a package of picks and Sanchez for the Titans’ #1.

          • John Doe

            Doubt it. Sanchez is not worth a whole lot in terms of picks. Moving up from #20 will still require a lot.

            Adam Schefter was saying this morning that moving to #5 will require Eagles to spend 2 first rounds, 2 second rounders, and 2 3rd rounders.

            Jump all the way to #2 from 20? fugged ’bout it…

          • BerwynBomber

            Fair enough. And I wasn’t counting Sanchez as worth much. Just gives the Titans an extra QB/potential bridge guy if they use the lot of picks to build up other areas. The deal would be all about the draft picks.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        the second round pick is null and void if Bradford doesn’t start.

  • John Doe

    Kittens get: Ngata + 7th rounder
    Baltimore gets: 4th + 5th

    I think Kittens got fleeced for an old DT. Too steep a price.

    And to top it all.. Lions passed up Aaron Donald last year knowing fully well the emerging Suh and Fairley situation and picked Ebron who never played like #10 pick in his rookie year.

    • BerwynBomber

      Yep, good points. Ebron looks like a bust so far.

      • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

        A bust? Come on.

        • BerwynBomber

          A top 10 pick? 25 receptions for the year? If nothing else, he was a disappointment, no?

          • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

            Give him a couple years. He’s a TE in a system that had Pettigrew.

          • BerwynBomber

            Well, I did say “looks like”. Wasn’t pushing all my chips to the middle of the table.

          • Yeah, TEs don’t come in and tear it up.
            Maybe Gronk?
            I can’t think of any rook TEs coming in like gang busters.
            Even those Indy TEs are finally coming into their own years later.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Absolutely. They have to learn basically the offensive line mentality and schema as well as the receivers’. That’s got to be tough.

    • It’s 20/20, but they could’ve drafted Donald and given up a late 1st for Jimmy Graham.
      Imagine, Graham, Megatron and Tate on the same team? (Plus Donald at DT?)

      Phew.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Aaron Donald doesn’t fit their Defense and philosophy.

      There’s nothing undersized about their Front 7.

  • John Doe

    Surprisingly no word on TE Jordan Cameron. He would be a good addition.

  • GPLDAN aka Mink Lloyd

    http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:12455116

    Everybody should watch this.

    5 minutes in, when it’s Skip’s turn to bang the pinata, all I could think was “That thing on his head looks like a Shamwow that was used to wipe up dirt then left in the sun.”

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