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Rich Campbell’s Ernie Accorsi Interview is Must Read

| January 24th, 2015

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Been a long time since DBB has dedicated space to a single piece but Rich Campbell’s interview with Ernie Accorsi is one of the most insightful football pieces I’ve read in a long time. There is tremendous detail regarding the hiring processes, the relationship between Ted Phillips & George McCaskey, why this opportunity at this time was perfect for Ryan Pace and the difference between Chicago and other football markets.

Some of my favorite stuff was a look inside the Giants offices. An excerpt:

What did you admire about John from your experiences with him with the Giants?

“His office (as defensive coordinator) was right next to mine, so we interacted. In a lot of places, the GM and the coach are at two different ends of the building. We were right beside each other, and (Fox) happened to be in the office next to mine. We interacted every day. First of all, he’s just a great football coach. Second thing, he has a way with people. He’s not going to lock himself in the office and draw up plays and be aloof. Players love to play for him.

“When we lost him, Mr. Mara actually said these words, and they were printed. When we lost him and he became head coach of Carolina, Wellington Mara said, ‘I feel much the same as I did when (Vince) Lombardi went to Green Bay.’ He said that.

“I’ll just give you an anecdote about John. We’re going to play Minnesota in the NFC championship game (in 2001). They have Randy Moss, Cris Carter, Robert Smith, Daunte Culpepper, and they’re scoring a million points a game. Now, all week they already scored 50 touchdowns in my apartment while I was trying to sleep.

“Finally we get to Friday, and I bump into Fox, and Fox says, ‘You’ve been ducking me all week.’ I said, ‘I don’t want to talk to you. I’m afraid of what you’re going to tell me.’ He said, ‘We may just shut them out.’ And we did (41-0). I thought we had a chance to win because we could score, but I thought we were going to win 45-38. He said, ‘We may just shut them out,’ and we did. And John doesn’t say that kind of stuff … to be boastful or bravado or anything like that.”

To read the entire Tribune piece, and you absolutely must, CLICK HERE AND DO IT.

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  • 1st to say , I’m actually more worried about the offense, as crazy as that sounds. (at least long term)
    1. Gase is an unknown (Peyton true OC?)
    2. Fox and Fangio will right the D, but Fox is not exactly known for potent offenses, and tends to be conservative.
    3. None of these offensive assistants are wowing me. Dowell Logains from the Browns as QB coach? How is getting a coach from a loser organization gonna help? And he was on the Titans before that? Is he the one who “developed” Jake Locker?. Cutty Badger’s gonna tune him out fast.

    • Speaking of which, Jake Locker I think is becoming an FA this offseason.
      Just throwing it out there…

      • John Doe

        No wonder Foxy was talking about Jake in his introductory press conference.

        • Yeah, everyone assumed the Fruedian slip alluded to Jake Delhome. Maybe not!
          Supposedly, Logains is a huge backer of Locker.
          The main problem with Locker was inj (though he did seem like a scatter brain).
          I wouldn’t mind him and Grayson (from the draft) behind Cutler this season.

          • John Doe

            Not sure about Locker. But I know this much.. this coaching staff will not be beholden to Jake Cutler like the Trestman/Emery duo was. And they will be operating without the fear of losing their job over Cutler or Cutler getting them fired.

            And they will not tie their fates to Jay Cutler if he stays for 2015. I read somewhere that Pace is determined to have a good option at QB #2. Maybe they will get Sanchez or Hoyer besides drafting Grayson.

            Cutler will be on very short leash in 2015. If 4-5 games into the season they see the same old Jay, they will bench him.

            There is a significant change in the status/importance of Cutler on the Bears after 2014 season.

            Jake is now just a guy (JAG).

          • Irish Sweetness

            They’re going after Jake Locker and Fox’s aged brain slipped it out. I like the thinking. Why would he confuse Jay with a QB he had in the past? The future is what’s present.

    • WP4Life

      dated 1/10/12: The Bears promoted Mike Tice to offensive coordinator following Mike Martz’s departure, but the team still has a couple of positions on the staff to fill.

      The team wants to hire a passing game coordinator to work with Tice, and according to Seth Jensen of the Sun-Times, the Bears were denied permission to speak with Tennessee Titans quarterback coach Dowell Loggains. Jay Cutler had hoped the Bears could hire Loggains, as the two have worked together in the past.

      • Yeah, I read somewhere that Loggains was Cutty’s man, but wasn’t sure how.
        So, is this more Cutler appeasment? Does Cutler want Loggans because he’ll let Cutler get away with anything, or because he truly believes he’s good?
        You don’t let children hire their own babysitters.

        • WP4Life

          We’ll see. I hope Fox has strong oversight and nips any issues in the bud.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t see Cutler being coddled with the Bears ever again. Fox isn’t that kinda guy and if it comes down to him or Cutler, Kristin will be calling the moving company.

        • Irish Sweetness

          You’re a man on fire Butch.

          Jay’s gone. When Fox was asked a Jay Cutler question at the presser, he tugged at his right sleeve, meaning whatever came out of his mouth was untrue. The tell. Jay’s gone.

    • Ryan

      Jay Cutler actually has a personal relationship with Loggains and has been wanting him for a while. Definitely won’t be “tuning him out”

  • This is a nice article about Fox. He’ll right the ship. Get them to Lovie-level competitiveness. Just gotta see if Fox can finally get over the SB hump.

    http://chicago.suntimes.com/bears-football/7/71/315242/former-players-laud-john-fox-players-coach-commands-respect

    • Trac

      I see you’re on top of things this morning. Hahaha

    • Irish Sweetness

      CJ Anderson was undrafted. Wow. Didn’t Arian Foster go undrafted?

      If we traded Cutty and Matty we mightn’t even have to waste a draft pick finding a back.

      • CanadaBear

        Might is the operative word in that sentence. We might end up with a Trent Richardson clone (or worse).

      • Johnnywad

        So you’re proposing we trade Forte for a pick, then not use it, or any pick, in the draft to replace him? Holy shit Irish. He’s literally the best player the Bears have.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I can’t read the tribune. Anything interesting ?

    • CanadaBear

      Click the link in the twitter feed. The link in the post didn’t work for me either.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        niet. Not working in Romania.

        • CanadaBear

          Damn.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Da! Works fine in Tucson.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Thank very much, Canada.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Yeah, I can only read the trib articles from a twitter feed. What’s going on there?

        • CanadaBear

          Their pay wall. Fuckers! I can almost always get on there from a twitter feed.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Not really. Jefe posted the best bit. Fox is the right guy essentially. He’s a real mensch.

      Download Cyberghost and you can appear to be from whatever country you like BTW.

  • Scharfinator

    What site charges you to visit it outside of porn these days? Too bad I can’t read it.

    Just kidding, figured it out. Those having trouble reading it, check the link in his twitter feed.

  • Scharfinator

    Does anyone thing the NFL is hyping the deflategate stuff on purpose?

    Wouldn’t they rather this season be the one where the Patriots got caught cheating again, rather than how embarrassingly they handled their players beating family members?

    • or how the officials had a hand in deciding 2 playoff games with hugely questionable calls.

      • willbest

        The Lions had plenty of opportunity to win that game, and there were essentially 3 fouls (DH – tugging jersey, OPI – extending arm, DPI – contact on receiver prior to the balls arrival, without attempting to make a play on the ball).

        The Cowboys however got screwed from New York, unless there is some definition of irrefutable I am not presently aware of. I suppose I could also not understand football move, because it seems to me that moving the ball from a 2-hand hold to a forearm and 1-hand hold, taking 2 steps, and extending the football toward the goal line are all football moves.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Can’t agree.

      Replace two embarassments with a 3rd?

      Sounds a lot like

      “Two wrongs don’t make a right. But THREE do.

      • Scharfinator

        If you make it that cut and dry, I agree with you.

        But having trouble with people cheating at a kids game vs having players beating wives and children – which would you rather the fans remember?

        The fact that one story is about how a game can get messed up and the other details criminal charges as well as a societal black eye for the league.

        • AlbertInTucson

          It’s another case of “NFL Mishandling” rather than deemphasize the previous situation, recalls attention them.

        • AlbertInTucson

          Regardless, screwing up again on the heels of the previous mishadnlings doesn’t divert attention to the 3rd issue, it serves as a reminder of their previous incompetance on the first two.

          The NFL would like to concentrate on football and the big game which ain’t gonna happen.

  • I found this most fascinating from the above article:
    Accorsi, ” I always look at who’s making the player personnel decisions on a team, and do they have players they’re getting in the middle rounds they’re winning with? You have to do that today. You only have seven picks, and the draft is still your lifeblood.

    “And I look at the Steelers — that’s why I think (GM) Kevin Colbert is so good. They have third-, fourth-, fifth-, sixth-round draft choices that they’re winning in the playoffs with every year. And New Orleans rebuilt that team in a hurry, and that’s how they rebuilt it. Listen, (quarterback Drew) Brees was a big pickup and all. That’s fine. But you look all through that line, and you have players playing all through those two lineups that they picked in the middle or lower rounds. So, on paper, I thought, ‘Someone has to be making the right decisions here.’

  • Oh yes, great article.

    “The one thing that there’s no question (about is) Fox will coach them. He’ll get the best out of them. And to be honest with you, to me, it’s even more important that he lost two Super Bowls. Because having lost one, I know what it’s like. He knows. We’ve talked about it. The fact is that you never get that out of your system, and you can’t sleep until you rectify that. He is possessed with going to the Super Bowl and winning it. I mean, he lost one by three points. He tied the game with 1 minute, (8) seconds to go, and the kicker kicked the ball out of bounds. So that’s how close he came to beating (Bill Belichick and the Patriots). There’s a drive and a hunger there that was obvious from the first time we even met.” – Accorsi

    • Big Mike

      I had read this article yesterday morning. There was a lot to like about the insights provided. “Fox will coach them” and “you never get that out of your system and you can’t sleep until you rectify that”.

      I was officially encouraged.

    • tobijohn

      Jeff’s right right, it s an excellent article but that paragraph you quoted above is the one that resonated with me..

  • Trac

    Thanks for posting the link to the Acorsi piece Jeff.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    I’m still in shock that the Bears didn’t hire Jim Leavitt as their LB coach. It must be something personal. It has to be.

    • Trac

      Is he that good?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I have no clue. I just look at his achievements. 49ers Defense was 5th in points allowed while having the LB corp of Willis, Bowman and Aldon Smith out for much/all of the season.

        Borland and Lynch, 2 rookies, got the job done.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Pires coached the Cards, Lions and Fins LBs. That’s all he’s done is coach LBs.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I guess Fox-Fangio know what they’re doing. I’m just baffled. Or maybe he’ll take charge of some college team.

    • BearDown100393

      Check out Leavitt’s Wikipedia page. His tenure at USF might have something to do with the Bears not hiring him. Emphasis is on “might”.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I don’t think so.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Great article, Jefe! Thanks for the heads up.

  • Thisguy_justsaid

    What a great article absolutely great.

  • AlbertInTucson

    “We may just shut them out.”

    VERY reminiscent of Buddy Ryan predicting Eric Dickerson would cough the ball up twice (which Dickerson DID) in the NFC Championship game except Buddy said it to the media.

    • Outrages predictions…runs in the Ryan blood.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That one from Buddy wasn’t as much a prediction as it was a promise.

  • Trac

    “Lookie here Vern, we got us a customer”.

    I broke down in the high desert back in the day and I actually heard those words as I came up on the only service station within 60 miles. My Buddy and I were taking our girlfriends to Vegas for the Super Bowl and my car threw a timing belt on the way there in the middle of the Mojave Desert early that Sunday morning. As luck had it, we walked about a mile down the road and an old 60 ‘s style wrecker pulled up on us. “You folks need a ride?” said the driver as he spat his chew out the window. Yes please I answered, my car broke down a mile back, is there a service station near by, I asked? Sure thing buddy, you need a tow? Oh yes please, we’re in a hurry, do you think your mechanic will be able to fix it today? Sure, no problem he says, so off we went to pick up my car. We didn’t all fit in the tow truck so the girls had to ride in my car as we got a tow to the last chance filling station. It was 120 degrees in the car and no air. Needless to say, they were not happy. Hahaha

    As we pulled up to the service station, there was Vern sitting on the front porch, smoking a cigarette sitting on his rocking chair. And that’s when the driver said, “Vern, we got us a customer”. Oh shit, I thought, I’m screwed.

    Vern introduced himself to me and told me his mechanic lived down the road a ways and that we were welcome to wait in the restaurant while he worked on my car. Ok, I said, how soon before you think he’ll be able to let me know what’s wrong? Oh not to long said Vern, he’s a good Ole Boy.

    3 hours later, Vern tells me I need a new timing belt and his mechanic is gonna have to drive to Needles to get one. How much is it going to cost I asked? Oh, around $150 dollars he says. Ok, go ahead, I told him. 6 hours later, Vern tells me they couldn’t find the part and that at the earliest, they would have it ready in a couple of days. Having no choice and not enough money to tow my car back to base, I said go ahead and fix it and I had to pay a taxi 300 bucks to take us back to base.

    After calling every day for 2 weeks, they finally said my car was ready and the bill was 800 bucks. By this time I was pissed but what could I do? I had my buddy give me a ride and I had decided to give the guy a major ass chewing for taking so long and charging such a ridiculous price for replacing a timing belt. As I walk up to my car, I see a manual sitting on my hood with the title, “how to be a mechanic”. I’m not making this up, it really happened. Lol.

    Anyhow, Vern finally shows up with my keys and he’s got a half dozen kids with him. Sorry for taking so long ge says. It’s my granddaughters birthday and I got here as soon as I could. How can I give this guy a piece of my mind with all these kids around, I think to myself so I begrudgingly pay him and off I went.

    About 40 miles down the road, my car starts overheating so I pull over and open the hood. It seems Vern forgot to put the cap on my radiator and it was bone dry. Yup, cracked engine block.

    Here’s the moral of the story. If anyone ever says “Vern, we got us a customer” , don’t do it. Just don’t ever do it.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Sorry. If there IS one, I am missing the Ernie Accorsi anaolgy.

      • Trac

        It’s a super bowl nightmare from years past. Thanks, you have no idea how much of a pain in the ass that was typing it on my phone. No respect. Hahaha

        • AlbertInTucson

          Duh.My bad.

          Not quite as good as The Patriots ’86 nightmare.

          • Trac

            Do tell Al. Mine was the 87 Broncos Giants game.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Like the Pats, didn’t the Bronocs actually have a LEAD in that game before the sky fell in?

    • Scott W.

      Wow man. I’m sorry, but I am laughing like all hell…great story.

      • Trac

        lol. Yup, there’s a sucker born evra day! Hahahaha

    • Irish Sweetness

      Did he look like Billy Bob Thornton in ‘U-turn’ ?

      Bill Hicks was in a waffle house down south one time and he was reading a book. A patron passed a comment, “Looks like we’ve got ourselves a reader.”

      • Trac

        Uh, close. They made out like bandits that day. Not sure if you could officially call the restaurant a restaurant but they did serve food, kind of. We had pre-packaged hammy sandwiches for lunch and dinner. lol.

        • Johnnywad

          Sounds like a great business model. Location, location, location. These guys didn’t need a busy street with lots of potential customers. They thrive on desolation and screwing a single customer repeatedly as hard as they can once a month. Smart. Very smart.

          • Trac

            hahahaha. I can laugh now but boy did it hurt back then. The Marines weren’t known for paying their troops well.

          • Johnnywad

            No kidding. I would imagine you could have gotten a very nice used car for the cost of the repair, cab ride and ham sandwiches in the ’60’s. They did keep you out of Vegas though. Maybe its a wash.

          • Trac

            It was as if they knew how much money we had on us. hahaha

          • Scott W.

            I loved the part where he brought his kids with him to collect the money for the bill.
            Folks, that is first-rate bill collection when yer running a scam.

          • Trac

            You liked that did you? A grifter at heart. Lol.

        • Scott W.

          Two words came to mind instantly when I read your story: Galesburg, Illinois.
          I swear that city is cursed beyond all others.
          Every time I drove through there while travelling to/from college and home, my car not only broke down, it was far from everywhere, and I lived below broke.
          After last time (happened twice in a row), I took the much longer route.
          I still won’t drive through there.

          • Trac

            Hahaha. Aah the memories.

          • CanadaBear

            I have a sister that lives there!

          • Scott W.

            Go to her, Canada. Save her. You must do this.

          • CanadaBear

            She’s been there for 40 years. I’m guessing I’m too late!

          • Trac

            Potential children of the corn backdrop?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Big props for that link, Blogfather. Thank you.

    I especially liked:

    “He helped keep that sense of urgency in the forefront of our minds.”

    “I think it’s a great combination. I really do. I don’t think you have to have one of those two jobs with an older person. I always say this: (Don) Shula was 33. (Pete) Rozelle was 33. Chuck Noll was 35. John Madden was 32. Young people can do all these jobs. It has nothing to do with age. But he had to be hired because he was the best person. And if he was the best person, then that experience gives you a plus. No matter what Ryan goes through, John has seen it. That’s a bonus.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      Also: “There is no better job in this league.”

    • Irish Sweetness

      He also called TP ‘smart as heck’. Beware. Also, that dead cat on his head is a red flag. Can’t be the most genuine man that ever lived with that thing in residence. Blowing smoke up our asses methinks. Foxy looks like a good signing though … a signing any one of us would have made however.

      • willbest

        I am pretty Fing smart, I just have no idea how to run a football organization. The same might also be said for Philips.

  • Scott W.

    That was a good read. Too often, we dehumanize the hiring process to a point where it seems absurd.
    I am nervous about Pace, I admit. Probably Emery aftershock.
    The piece was reassuring.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Like the draft, this stuff is always a crapshoot.

      • Scott W.

        Yeah. And we’ve had 2 years of loads of crap up the chute.

        • Maddbearfan

          Ouch.

    • SC Dave

      Of course it was – Accorsi is a consultant.

      If he was not expert at making people feel comfortable with his advice, he would not get hired.

  • Scott W.

    In case anyone missed it, Real Sports with Bryant Gumbel featured the ’85 Bears this past week.
    Same episode airs Monday on HBO, 10:00 a.m. EST. Also 4:30 p.m. same day.

    • beninnorcal

      Thanks, Scott. DVR set.

  • CanadaBear

    Posting this for my Romanian friend. Check this out if you like hockey. Tons of stick handling with cameras on the ice. Amazing!

    • burntorangenavyblue

      The gnome may have ate your link?

      • CanadaBear

        I’m trying to get it on here from FB without using my page. Be patient. I’m not exactly a computer whiz.

  • Big Mike
    • Shady

      hahaha – when the going gets tough, jay gets going.

    • BearDown100393

      Geez he had everything under control when taking the kids to Disneyland a couple of weeks ago

  • Johnnywad

    I’ve decided I’m a glass half full guy. Calvin Johnson is 29. So what are we looking at there? Four more seasons tops? Aaron Rodgers is 31. So maybe six or seven more seasons there. Sooner or later these bastards will leave. And it’ll be riiiiiiiggggght about the time Pace and Fox have this juggernaut in its prime.

    #Dynasty

    • Big Mike

      Fox will be hundred years old then 🙂

      • Johnnywad

        Seasoned

        • Big Mike

          If the Bears are ascending at the time, he will ride it out. My hope is the Bears are competitive next season. I think they can be a wild card team. More talent than they showed last year. A good draft, some free agents, addition by subtraction, maybe a trade or two. They will be younger, harder hitting. I think the return to health of Slauson and Bushrod, one mid level OL free agent pick up and the draft of one running back in the top 4 rounds will let the Bears play smash mouth. Everything else on Defense.

          We can dream right?

          • Johnnywad

            I am all in. Sign me up for this version.

          • they already drafted a RB in the first 4 rounds last year.

          • Big Mike

            I want another one. I like Kadeem. This year’s draft class is pretty deep. Looking for a FB/HB type.

  • willbest

    I think we are using “need” differently. I count no more than 6 needs (Sx2, LBx2, CB, D-line) and that assumes that Vereen and Bostic are busts and not just in need of better coaching. I might also point out Mundy was okay, though I wouldn’t hand him the job without some training camp competition, I don’t feel horrible with him starting at SS if priorities/BPA require addressing other positions.

    • Scott W.

      I guess I need to research Bostic again. My sense was he wasn’t being coached correctly, or was put in the wrong position.
      Sounds like Chicken Dinner, now that I look at what I typed. Maybe it’s infectious.

      • willbest

        Shea didn’t have the physical attributes to play 4-3 DE. Bostic by all accounts has the physical attributes, he just over runs plays or is out of alignment. I don’t know if that is because he is improperly coached, has low football IQ, or is playing out of position at MLB. No doubt it doesn’t help there has been zero consistency at LB and thus no opportunity for them to play as a unit.

        • Scott W.

          It’s a confounding amalgam of ….. something. Sorry, just wanted to use the word ‘amalgam’.
          And I confess, I didn’t know size was that big an issue in the 4-3.

  • Johnnywad

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000463029/article/browns-josh-gordon-faces-oneyear-banishment

    Banishment. I thought they were going to lock him in some sort of prison made of crystal and launch him into deep space like in Superman. But they aren’t.

    • Scharfinator

      YOU ARE BANISHED TO OMECHRON PERSEI 8 UNTIL FURTHER NOTICED, ENSIGN GORDON. *Sschhwwooooom*

    • Scott W.

      To quote Homer Simpson: “Booze solves everything”.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Actually : “Alcohol – the cause of, and solution to, all of life’s problems …”

        He was 50% correct.

        • Scott W.

          Yes. I was paraphrasing though. Be honest. Did you wikipedia that?

      • AlbertInTucson

        I thought that was “Donuts.” ?

  • John Doe

    Do not like this DL coach hire. Sounds like nepotism hire. This guy is brother of new Bears ST coach Jeff Rodgers. Hope they keep Clint Hurtt as Assistant DL coach.

    Chicago Bears26m

    #Bears have reached agreement with Jay Rodgers to become their defensive line coach. Rodgers spent last 3 years in same role w/ Broncos.

    • willbest

      Yeah seems sketchy. Then again damn near every law firm in the country has named partner’s son working there. And usually they have the skill to be there even if they aren’t as good as their old man.

      • Big Mike

        “Rodgers spent last 3 years in same role w/ Broncos” seems qualified.

    • he has the Fox connection. Denver’s DL has been solid the past few years.

    • Trac

      Really? C’mon man, think sunshine and daisy’s.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Reading material for Jefe and other teeter-tots.

    http://www.windycitygridiron.com/2009/5/22/883297/the-greatness-of-jim-mcmahon

    “During a nondescript regular season game at Soldier Field (I’m not sure about the year/opponent) McMahon called an audible at the LOS and threw a TD pass to TE Emery Moorhead to beat the oncoming blitz. In the Chicago Tribune the next day, Moorehead expressed great surprise at McMahon’s ability to read the blitz and audible to a play that turned into a TD pass to him.

    Moorehead explained that usually, a quarterback SEES the DB creeping up towards the LOS and THEN calls the audible. McMahon called the audible BEFORE the DB ever made a step towards the LOS. Moorehead was bewildered as to how Jim McMahon knew the DB would blitz before the DB ever signaled his intentions by moving closer to the LOS.

    Jim’s answer: “I could see it in his eyes.” That’s right, McMahon could tell the DB was going to blitz just by reading his eyes. That’s pretty impressive. Jim McMahon had an acute intuition for the game of football that’s missing from many who play the position.”

  • Huge Bear’s Penis
    • AlbertInTucson

      “Want to” has nothing to do with it. The guy obviously has addiction serious issues.

      Tom Sizemore was a good actor with films like SAVING PRIVATE RYAN and HEAT on his resume’ but he also tried to destroy himself with substance abuse.

      I THINK Sizemore finally cleaned up but it took him MULTIPLE trips thru rehab.

      • Cormonster

        Have you seen Fury yet? Pretty awesome war flick.

        • AlbertInTucson

          No, but my Daughter has recommended it.

          • Cormonster

            Your daughter has good taste. I’ll probably watch it again this week.

        • Trac

          Meh, it kinda sucked imo.

    • Shady

      Testing positive for Alcohol? Serisouly NFL?

      • Trac

        When you got a problem, you got a problem. My only question is would they be interested in giving up the fine china for Marshall? They are a team that just may overpay for him.

  • AlbertInTucson

    NHL All-Star Game. 29 goals. Yeah, THAT’S hockey.

    No, I didn’t watch a second of it.

    • CanadaBear

      It’s like the NFL/NBA all star games. Zero D.

    • BearDown100393

      I tried to watch. I failed. Lasted about 5 minutes of playing time. Probably saw 4 or 5 goals in that span.

  • Trac

    New threadarouski!

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