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Podcast: Scott Wright of NFLDraftCountdown.com [AUDIO]

| April 16th, 2015

Scott Wright spends every day of his year on the NFL Draft do I turn to him for the information I lack time and interest to gather on my own. On the pod we discuss:

  • Scott’s decision to give the Bears Amari Cooper over Vic Beasley in his latest mock draft.
  • Some of my favorite players in this draft, including Nick O’Leary, Shaq Thompson, Shane Ray, BJ Finney (who I think I call Kinney) & Phillip Dorsett.
  • The Marcus Mariota Thing.
  • Mid-round safety prospects.
  • Scott’s undervalued prospects.

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  • Trac

    If the Bears have a shot at getting Mariota, I think they have to go for it. Cooper would make the Bears better on O in week 1. I agree with Beasley being a bigger risk than Cooper. Nyet on O’Leary unless you can get him in the fourth round.

    • GPLDAN

      If the Bears have a shot at getting Mariota, I think they have to go for it.

      Only as something to deal.

      Do you honestly think that kid is the new Russell Wilson? That is how he is being marketed. You think he will be as good as Wilson?

      • beninnorcal

        I think he ends up being the new Kap. No thanks.

      • Trac

        To answer your question, prolly not. My only reason for going after Mariota if it’s a doable deal is that we may not have a shot at drafting a QB at a reasonable price for 5 or 6 years if Fox turns this team around in short order.

      • Scott W.

        I think there is something very special about this kid. It’s just a hunch, but I think he’s legit.
        I don’t think he is the next Kap or Wilson. I think he’s actually going to be a better Matt Ryan.

    • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

      Collins – YES PLEASE.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Collins plus Hendricks, or somebody like that. I’d be happy that we addressed positional problems with our first two picks in a solid manner – instead of adding a receiver, or falling in love with some young QB who aint makin’ it.

        • BillW

          I want players who will be anywhere from solid contributors to stars in the league. None of us have any idea whatsoever who they will be.

          • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

            thanks for the insight, Bill. Very illuminating.

    • beninnorcal

      I don’t get a good feeling about Mariota, I hope we don’t get a shot at him. I guess you never know til they play in the big league, but if I were a gambler, I’d bet Mariota isn’t too special in the NFL.

      • beninnorcal

        Not that such a bet exists but you know what I mean.

  • Serial Complainer

    Should’ve asked Wright why he doesn’t update his site worth shit anymore. All he updates are mock drafts and player rankings. No bios, evaluations, or explanations of why players are ranked where they are.

    • beninnorcal

      Stop complaining so much.

      • BillW

        My Cherios were pissed in this morning.

        Just call me a cereal complainer.

        • Bear Down in Tampa

          That sounds like the first two lines of a freestyle rap.

  • BillW

    I myself can’t wait for the speculation to end and the reality to begin. Some will be right – some will be wrong – everyone is guessing,

    Players that were “can’t miss” will be busts. Players flying below the radar will be stars. No one will remember who was who – or who predicted what – because they will be on to next year’s mock draft.

    And even as fans – we say “we have to get Mariota” like we said we have to get Cutler.

    We haven’t seen a good GM in many years. For some fans of the Bears – never. I have no idea where Pace will fall in the spectrum of Jim Finks (best in my life) to Jerry Angelo (worst). And it will take at least two drafts – probably more to be able to tell.

    So I’m trying to ignore the speculation because even after the draft is over, it will be two more years before we know if the moves made were good or bad.

    • I sort of agree with your points, but at the same time this is just fun stuff to talk about while we’re waiting for draft day. I hate when people ask me who I think the Bears should take, I haven’t evaluated any of these guys, I’m too busy doing my real job and taking care of my wife and kids. Whomever they pick I’ll be cool with, it’s their job.

  • Good call on BJ Finney. Would love him in rd 5 to groom behind Montgomery for a year.

    • BillW

      JWood I respect immensely. I know you are thorough in your analysis. PLEASE do not take offense to what I am going to say. I do not mean it personally. And if you do take offense, I understand and regret it – but it doesn’t change what I’m going to say.

      “Good call on BJ Finney”. Why? Because you agree? Really, there is no other reason.

      The rest of this rant DOES NOT apply to you at all.

      It’s like grading the draft – which every major media outlet will do. And all they are saying is “if they drafted the players we thought they should, they get a high grade.”

      I say this every year. The Bears were criticized for taking Hampton that high. The “experts” said he’d be there in a lower round. Seriously – look it up. Same with the Giants and Phil Simms. Same year.

      Scouts and GMs get paid for what they do. They get hired and fired for what they do. Everyone else is simply guessing but convince themselves they know the secret sauce. The mere fact that NONE of the speculators ever did it as a real “put up or shut up” job convinces me they are useless.

      • Yeah, all I meant by it was I liked hearing him talk about Finney. Haven’t seen/heard many people doing that; don’t think he’s getting enough love as a solid prospect.

      • Scott W.

        Wow. Never saw this side of you before, Bill. It’s OKAY.
        He’s just starting or joining a conversation. Same thing we do right here. Make your case, and discuss.

  • BillW

    Jeff – what are Scott Wright’s credentials other than spending every day of his year on the NFL Draft? How long has he been doing this? Can we see his ranking by position for the past five years so we can see how good he is? Does he bother to “scout himself”? Or does he ignore what he said in years past because he is spending every day after those drafts preparing for the next one.

    This pre-draft crap has gotten absolutely ridiculous. If I spent every day of my life on something and wanted people to pay attention to what I was doing, I’d have some statistics to back up my credibility.

    I do statistical analysis. We make decisions based on that analysis. I do post-implementation reviews to see if my analysis was right or not. And if NOT, I see where I went wrong to determine how to improve. I’d be fired in a heartbeat if all I did was say “I spent every day doing this” as if that makes me right.

    • DaBearsBlog

      Who cares if Scott is correct? He is knowledgeable.

      And I respect his opinion. Last time I checked that’s the only criteria for making it onto this site.

      • BillW

        “Who cares if Scott is correct” pretty much sums up my point about draft analysis. I couldn’t have said it better. Thanks.

        • BillW

          And with that comment (“who cares if Scott is correct”) – I am out.

          This from a guy who just complained “When did every person on Twitter start thinking they’re Jim Finks?”.

          Being right USED to matter. But then again, I’m an old guy. I guess those things don’t matter in the new world.

          • DaBearsBlog

            There is no such thing as being right in draft analysis. Every single person who has ever done drafting/draft analysis has been less than 50% right. It’s guesswork. Maybe don’t take it so seriously.

          • BillW

            Myself, if I’m spending every day of MY year doing something…well that sounds like something I’d take seriously. And I’d like to think I’m doing more than guessing.

            But again, the world has clearly changed. I obviously haven’t kept up.

            I just don’t get it, but I guess that’s me.

          • SC Dave

            Accountability went out when the culture of “being a victim” achieved ascendency. An inevitable result of statist redistributionist philosophy and.its destruction of the concept of earning.

    • beninnorcal

      Settle down, Bill, you don’t have to read it. Most folks get all worked up about the draft simply out of the boredom of the offseason. Slow your roll.

      • BillW

        as I said above, someone pissed in my Cherios.

        So that makes me a “cereal complainer”.

        Really bad start to my day today. My apologies for dumping here.

        • BearDown100393

          I’m not much for cereal but damn I hate when my coffee gets pissed on. Cheer up!

    • Scott W.

      Wow Bill. You seem pissed off. You know he doesn’t have any authority, right?

      • BillW

        I am working right now with a team of “analysts” that are trying to sell a very risky program. They “worked very hard on the numbers”. Intuitively I think they are wrong. SOMEONE has to go and find evidence one way or the other. For some reason, they feel it’s up to ME to do that. They don’t have the time. Nor do they care. I’ll stop there.

        Obviously there appears to be very little if any similarity to that and draft analysis. Or is there? It’s the “speaking like an expert” without credentials that bugs me. And the lack of accountability. It seems that has gotten to be a thing.

        Everyone with a Twitter account thinks he’s Jim Finks:.

        EXACTLY.

        Does anyone know why “crabby old men” sound that way? It’s not because they (we) think new is bad and old is good. It’s that younger people think new is good and old is bad. Without any proof.

        Yeah, just like new economy during the dot-com bubble.

        • Scott W.

          Okay man. Sorry you got screwed. Hope it shakes your way sooner rather than later.

          • BillW

            Thanks Scott. I but I ain’t screwed yet. I am now motivated to prove these smart asses wrong and discredit them in my company. Trust me, that will be like shooting fish in a barrel. Nothing ruins a reputation like unfounded arrogance.

            I’ve only done this two other times in my career. Got each one demoted eventually.

            I just need to be sure I keep taking my Geritol.

          • GPLDAN

            Eeyore goes Rambo! Look out!

          • BillW

            I knew I could count on you to make me laugh – literally out loud!

            Thanks –

          • BillW

            (Waiting for the photoshop GIF of Eeyore with the criss-cross bullet straps across his body!)

          • SC Dave

            Some good shit gp

          • SC Dave

            Kick their collctive asses. No doubt a bunch of snotty-nosed kids filled with hubris having earned their MBAs and believing they know how your business works.

  • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

    Scott Darling gave one helluva performance last night, ‘Hawksss are blessed to have him as the backup to Crow.

    BLACKHAWKSSSSSS

    • BearDown100393

      Starter.

      • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

        not sure about that, but man he showed up big time. Crow is proven

        • BearDown100393

          If he isn’t a starter for the Hawks because of Crow, he will be somewhere else in the near future. Big believer in that kid.

          • he’s no cam talbot, that’s for sure.

          • I still think trading Crawford makes sense for the Hawks this offseason. Not because Crawford is bad (he’s not, he played like one of the top 10 goalies in the NHL this year) but because of $$.

            Hawks have a big salary cap crunch coming up. They are already short on defenders, so trading one of their good ones (Oduya or Hjalmerson) doesn’t make much sense to me. I’d rather trade Crawford, who has two solid youngsters behind him that are cheap. Bickell could also be traded to clear up money.

          • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

            yeah I think that may happen, always bums me out (Niemi) but it’s the way of the sport world.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Oduya becomes UFA at the end of the year.

          • oh yeah, he’s one of the guys they’d have to re-sign.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Very unlikely scenario. If you’re cap strapped why would you resign a 34 years old Dman ?

            They have 4 Dman who are/will be great/elite. The only way they resign Oduya is at a very,very friendly team deal.

          • AlbertInTucson

            The Hawks let their first Cup-Winning goaltender in 49 years, Antti Niemi,go FA after 2010 because of CAP issues.

  • BearDown100393

    How long is “his year”? Is it different from ours?

    • SC Dave

      On Ceres, years are much longer than ours.

  • BillW

    This is what I’d like to see – but of course never will But it’s not tough..

    A draft analyst picks the top five guys at every position. Or maybe just the top 3. Whatever.

    Then each year for the next 5 they are tracked. A rolling 5 years. The “tracking” by nature would be subjective and qualitative – not quantitative. Good/OK/Bad. Injuries make an incomplete.

    How tough is that?

    The reason we have so many voices like Scott who’s only qualification appears to be spending every day of his year working on the draft is no one knows if anyone is any good. By Jeff’s estimate, no one even gets it half right and everyone is simply guessing.

    I don’t think that is true. And I’ll bet his buddy Scott doesn’t appreciate Jeff telling everyone that despite his spending every day of his year on the draft, he’s wrong more than half the time and he’s guessing anyway.

    I think there are good analysts out there. Scott may be one of them. And someone like JWood could in fact uncover the truly knowledgeable from the frauds with a simple chart like I suggest.

    • way too much work to go back and track all that. Interesting idea, but I don’t have the time/ability to do it. Sorry.

      • BillW

        I didn’t mean you literally. I meant it was doable. You’ve done far more complex analyses than that. I know why it’s not done. They don’t want the scrutiny. They just want the page clicks.

    • Scott W.

      And people who like to analyze, postulate, and share their opinions on the draft are _______________?
      It’s a conversation Bill. Why do they need to be “exposed” or whatever it is you are proposing?
      Sorry man, I do not get the uproar here.

      • BillW

        People like the fine folks here who do that in no way make it out to be anything but random musing from fans. (No sarcasm at meant. None.)

        But people from Mel Kiper on down to Scott Whoever clearly make themselves out to be much more. As the Serial Complainer said (though I admit I haven’t verified his claim) Scott provides no background info. Just mock drafts.

        • Scott W.

          Bill? You did hear him take up the mantle for my “Draft Mariota”! cause celebre, right?
          So, you can correctly conclude that I think he’s the greatest draft muse ever, as of now.

          • BillW

            Well, we all need something to believe in.

            And I believe I need a drink.

  • Scott W.

    I am all in on Scott’s Mariota analysis.
    Shocking, I know….

  • Sactowns#1

    I could see us going O-line. As I said, it looks like this group is dedicated to a run first offense so why not get a RB or lineman early on?

    • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

      thought the knock on the o-line class this year was that it’s only so-so in talent…..any big bruiser out there worth the #7 pick over a DB/LB/DE?

      • Sactowns#1

        Who said we would need to take him at #7. We could always trade down or wait till the 2nd round. Erik Flowers or Brandon Scherff should be there between 10-20.

  • BillW

    “An authority in the field, Scott is a member of the Football Writers Association of America and has been featured as an NFL Draft expert on radio, television and in print by hundreds of media outlets across the country and even appearing in the Madden ’13 video game. Scott is a proud graduate of St. Cloud State University in Minnesota where he double-majored in Mass Communications and Communication Studies.
    Wright invests countless hours each week evaluating game film, doing research and maintaining this site. His passion for the draft and scouting comes through in his work and he has historically had some of the most complete and precise mock drafts available, including a 1st place finish nationally in 2004.

    Draft Countdown has continued to grow over the years and is one of the most popular NFL Draft sites in the world. “DC” also recently won the About.com Readers Choice Award for “Best NFL Draft Web Site” in a landslide.”

    OK – that’s something I freely admit. And yet, still indicative of how watered down everyone’s expectations of authority have gotten. “Complete and precise” are not defined. Nor have I ever heard of a national competition for mock drafts (how is that even judged? No info to back up any of that. Just semi-impressive sounding claims with nothing behind it (a link or reference or quote from someone would be a start.)

    • http://www.thehuddlereport.com/scoring/mockdrafts.shtml
      lists him as 10th most accurate over last 5 years and 2004 champion

      • BillW

        You are my hero. Thank you for finding this. I now have what I was looking for – hoping existed (but just didn’t have time to find today with all the bullshit going on at work.

        There really is a measure and while imperfect it at least has all the markings of a legitimate score – consistent etc.

        Scott obviously does a very good job in predicting first rounders and matching to the team. And by that definition alone he has the same credibility as many more famous people.

        And so that’s the game – being “right” by predicting what teams will do – not what they should do. I wonder if anyone got two points for predicting Shea to the Bears back then? Being “right” doesn’t mean the pick was right.

        What I mentioned before though would be far better. Ranking the top three at each position and seeing later how good that assessment was.

        Thanks again JWood. Much respect to you again.

        And I’m taking a break from the board for a while because I’m becoming a PITA again.. Though I will check back awaiting the picture of Rambo/Eeyore.

        BEAR DOWN!

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I am not sure what your beef is with these types of people or with the fact Jeff tapped one of them to do a podcast. They have a lot more knowledge about players than most and are willing to give their opinion on them. It is really no different than anyone of us asking JWood about cap implications or any other obscure stats that we don’t want to research.

      Besides NFL Teams have a team of guys to evaluate the thousands of college players. A lot of fans have interest in the draft and how players are evaluated. Guys like Scott Wright try to fill that gap of lack of information about players for the fans. Their evaluations tend to be fairly limited and vague since they don’t have a team of scouts reporting to them. Also unfortunately these guys are not in the war rooms of all the teams so they don’t know exactly how each team values a position or players. The Scott Wrights and Kipers of the world can only postulate what each team needs. One of the best ways these people can disseminate their limited evaluations is through Mock drafts. Mock Drafts are more fun to read than simply listing players and evaluations. Are they wrong a lot? ABSOLUTELY, but so are a lot of NFL teams. Mock Drafts give the casual fan a little insight on a teams needs and a possible player that fits that need. Mock Drafts give the more dedicated fan a decent starting point to start their own research into players and positions.

      The point is no one should take these Mock Drafts and evaluations very seriously or as a standard of any kind, just use them as a tool to get debate going. They are just like this site with Jeff’s and now Dannehy’s views and opinions. No one always agrees with what they write but we do enjoy reading and debating their views.

  • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

    Draft postulations be damned! Let’s talk food…

    I’m sure this place has been mentioned before on da blog, I was lucky enough to eat here once a month for several years growing up. A must-stop when visiting the Museum of S&I:

    http://morrysdeli.com/

    • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

      holy crap, just read that it’s Suse Orman’s dad who opened the place.

      • GPLDAN

        This place is the most Chicago of deli’s

        http://www.mannysdeli.com/

        It’s west off Roosevelt. The block and walking into the place feels like you have time traveled back to 1971.

        • Bender (Call Saul) McLugh

          never been, will need to check it out

          • AlbertInTucson

            For Chicago delis, we used to love a place called Braverman’s.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Fuckers. I’m on muesli and bananas every day. Manny’s. Fuckers.

          Aside : Re-watched Alien V Predator. There’s some good stuff in there I bet Ridley robs for his next one. Lots of exposition about the two alien races, more exposure to their culture and plenty of screen time.

    • Trac

      Do they sell collard greens? I love me some collard greens. Mmm mmm mmm!

      • SC Dave

        Sounds a lot more Soth Carolina than Chicago. ..

  • Scott W.

    This is my 50th year as a Bears fan. 50. Frigging. Years riding the Navy and Orange roller coaster.

    • SC Dave

      Damn… come to think about it, me too! Fifty years ago, our draft was Butkus and Sayers. Impossible to imagine a repeat, eh?

      • NewBearInTown

        The great thing about drafts like that is you just never know. We’ve got three really high picks and needs all over the roster. Pace could correctly predict a HOF talent at #7, then find another solid prospect in the second or third that turns out to be a generational player. Nobody knows who those guys are going to be, but there are a few of them every year.
        I’m excited to see some new bears though. I haven’t even been a Bears guy for ten years yet.

      • Scott W.

        Yeah man…drafts like that just don’t happen anymore.
        Butkus and Sayers. Man oh man….we hooked on to HOF history.

        Congrats on your 50.

        • AlbertInTucson

          The Bears ALSO picked drafted DE, Steve DeLong, in that draft . It was pre-merger and Delong signed with the Chargers and started for 7 years in San Diego before he played his 8th and final season with…The Bears.

          • Big Mike

            Damn, you guys are old. Also.. how do you have Butkus and Sayers and not do shit. I haven’t quite hit my 50 year anniversary with the Bears. Watched first game when I was 7 in 1968. Although my Dad would argue I was a fan at birth, because you just are.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Welcome to “Chicago Bears-Club 50”. You are now entitled to all the honors & benefits of being a Bear fan for 50 Years and as soon a I find out what they are I will let you know.

  • NewBearInTown

    On the subject of truly spectacular drafts, I got to looking at the 2012 NFL draft. This is what a team drafting at #7 each round could have done in 2012 with the help of a crystal ball:
    1 – Luke Kuechly (MLB, drafted 9th)
    2 – Alshon Jeffery (WR, drafted 13th in the second, by us)
    3 – Russell Wilson (QB, draft 15th in the third)
    4 – Kirk Cousins (QB, drafted 7th in the fourth)
    5 – Alfred Morris (RB, drafted 3rd in the sixth)
    6 – Justin Bethel (S, drafted 7th in the sixth)
    7 – Tashaun Gipson (S, UDFA)
    UDFA – Justin Tucker (K, UDFA), Johnny Hecker (P, UDFA)
    You walk out with a starting and backup QB, a wide receiver and running back, and a killer safety tandem. Plus a pair of great kickers. Every single one of those players has made the pro-bowl since being drafted.
    Miracles can happen.

    • SC Dave

      I didnt need no hindsight for Luke

  • NewBearInTown

    Same as below post. 2011 draft at #7 each round, with the help of a crystal ball.
    1 – JJ Watt (DT/DE, drafted 11th in the first)
    2 – Randall Cobb (WR, draft 32nd in the second)
    3 – DeMarco Murray (RB, drafted 7th in the third)
    4 – Julius Thomas (TE, drafted 32nd in the fourth)
    5 – Richard Sherman (CB, drafted 23rd in the fifth)
    6 – Jason Kelce (C, drafted 26th in the sixth)
    7 – Malcolm Smith (LB, drafted 31st in the seventh)
    Of those, only Malcom Smith has not made the pro-bowl. He was the Superbowl 48 MVP though, so not bad. This draft, incidentally, was one of those really special drafts for Seattle, who did well in the top rounds, then found Sherman and Smith on day 3.

    • SC Dave

      But I did need me some for JJ

  • NewBearInTown

    My mock draft (first of the year). I used Walterfootball’s latest mock draft and gave myself the rule that I can’t take anyone that Walter already drafted when it comes to the Bears pick.

    1 – Brandon Scherff, RT (I view this as a bit of a surprise pick, but Walter took all the best pass rushers, I don’t think we need to go WR so high in this draft, and I believe strongly in winning in the trenches. I figure either Kyle Long or Scherff will be a very good right tackle and the other with be an excellent right guard – that’s good value and depth on the line. Second choice was Danny Shelton, who would also be great. The issue with Shelton is we already have a lot invested in Sutton and Raitliff at the NT position and Fangio doesn’t traditionally have a mountain in the middle)

    2 – Stephone Anthony, ILB (high character, fast middle linebacker, solid building block for the defense, lots of WR, OLB and DB options here as well)

    3 – Preston Smith, DE/OLB (more of a 4-3 athlete, but not over-sized to stand up and rush)

    4 – Chris Conley, WR (good measurables, regarded as a sleeper pick)

    5 – Derron Smith, S (good value developmental safety)

    6 – Craig Mager, CB (very fast, good shrine game performance, solid late round flyer)

    I looked at QB, but the picks just didn’t fall right. I also shied away from spending on two offensive skill players to keep the focus on D. I look at this draft as giving us two starters in Scherff and Anthony, two prospects that could crack the secondary very easily, and third round D-lineman that will compete for playing time and try to adjust his weight to find the right natural position.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      First of all, please link that Walterfootball’s latest mock draft so I don’t have to. It’s not like one knows what you’re talking about off the bat.

      Second of all… a frickin’ Guard ? I mean you’re picking in the Top 10 hopefully once every 10 years and you draft a Guard ?

      PS: I’d rather take the 3rd QB on the board.

      • Trac

        This!

      • Big Mike

        I believe you are mistaken. We would be drafting a Tackle. A guy who will start for 10+ years and be contending to be in the pro-bowl regularly.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Sure. Sure he will.

          And Eric Fisher-Luke Joeckel will be better than Joe Thomas.

          • Big Mike

            No different than your forecast for Mariota

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That was my instinctive view. Between bust and the real deal, I’d go with the latter. He looks the part physically and mentally.
            I wasn’t predicting anything about his future nfl success.

      • Irish Sweetness

        If Long goes to RT and Scherff is the dude the next ten years at guard .. .well, that’s what the draft is for. Finding those guys. We’ve been pissing away first round picks since Jerry Vanisi left the building, it’s not like we have something to lose by drafting solid players. That’ll be a hell of a right side for an offensive line.

        • Big Mike

          We agree. See below 🙂 Left side looking good as well with Bushrod and Slauson. Bit old, not homegrown. But when Bushrod and Slauson are the weak link. That’s something.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          It’s not wrong…you just ain’t going to ever win shit.

      • NewBearInTown

        So I tried to explain above. Both Long and Scherff are build more like guards than tackles. The big knock on Scherff, incidentally, is that his arms are a bit short. My view is: who knows? We don’t know how Long or Scherff will look playing right tackle in the new scheme. Move them both around a bit in the off-season and find a way to get your best players on the field. I think between Long, Scherff and the backups on the roster now (including a hopefully healthy Mills), we would hopefully find someone who can be the starter for the foreseeable future.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I ain’t spending my only top 10 pick in the draft for a guard or tackle that I’ll move around and see what’s what.

          Many others have flunked with stupid rationale like that. Just analyze he last 3 years drafts. Just wath the Rams last year and the Cardinals 2 years ago. And the Chiefs, Titans , Jaguars, Eagles also 2 years ago.

    • Mine for that same draft:
      1) WR Amari Cooper
      2) DE Arik Armstead (no way in hell he’s still there at 39, but I’m not complaining)
      3) OT Cedric Ogbuehi
      4) DE Henry Anderson (2 DEs? Hell yes 2 DEs. Armstead profiles more as a weakside DE, while Anderson is a strongside guy. Really thought about S Ibraheim Campbell here, but value of Anderson in rd 4 is too good to pass up IMO).
      5) C Andy Gallik
      6) Take your pick. T Ty Sambrailo, T Rob Havenstein, TE Blake Bell. I’d probably lean Havenstein as a developmental mauling RT who fits what Fox likes there pretty well. Really like Bell’s upside though.

      I don’t think this is particularly indicative of how things fall out. The first 2 picks there are top 20 picks. Anderson and Ogbuehi likely rd 2, maybe late rd 1 for Ogbuehi.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Didn’t do much for the defense there, Woodsy.

        • I grabbed 2 quality DEs. Also upgraded the OL. Build through the trenches.

          • Irish Sweetness

            We have more defensive ends than a motherfucker.

          • they have 1 good DE on the roster right now, and he’s 30 years old with a history of off-field problems.

            I mainly just went with the player I felt was BPA at each spot, which was why I ended up with 2 DEs and 2 OTs.

          • Irish Sweetness

            All of those LBs are DEs now …

          • you’ve got that backwards. All the DEs are LBs now. They have a ton of LBs.

            They might try Cornelius Washington at DE, Sutton will get tried there, Houston and McPhee will both play some DE. But Armstead has great potential to play the Justin Smith role as a weakside DE, and Anderson is a plug and play strongside DE in the 3-4. I’m not passing on either at the spots I listed above.

      • Irish Sweetness

        The more I think about it, if your man is Scherff or Peat, then you draft him at 7. If you don’t, then you’ll watch the guy go to the pro-bowl every year, instead of the crack-head DB or DE you drafted

      • NewBearInTown

        I like your thought process as well. I opted to go O-line because of depth at the WR position. Though looking at the way my draft ended up, I didn’t end up taking any of the top 10 WR prospects and instead took a flyer on a fourth rounder. You just never know.
        One thing I will say; I didn’t take a WR in the 2nd because I’d already gone offense in the first round. And I really tried to stay focused on upgrading the D as much as possible. The fact that I took Scherff in the first, may have forced my hand a bit in the later rounds as a result.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Nice work NBIT. I’d swap a Center in for that DE/OLB in the third round though.

    • Big Mike

      I love drafting the big body guys. I really like Scherff. It’s very likely there is a quality speed WR available in rd 2. That’s the only choice I’d swap out.

  • Trac
    • Scott W.

      Thanks Trac.
      Definitely a risk/reward move, but I’m convinced its worth it.

      • Big Mike

        I don’t think you can gamble with the first pick of a new GM’s draft. Just don’t see it happening. Personally, I don’t trust what I saw with Mariota. I also hate the idea of what this would put Chicago Bears fans through after every incomplete pass Cutler throws, the Chicago sports media will start hopping up and down, talk radio morons will blather on even more.

        On one hand I ask this question. “Which QBs coming from a system like he played in have done well enough to justify being the 7th pick of the draft? ”

        On the other hand I say this, we’ve fucked up plenty of 1st round picks before, at least this one is a gamble that make sense. Every QB drafted is hit or miss. Taking one of the top 2 in a draft can be forgiven. Also, hopefully the Bears will not be drafting in the top 10 again for a while.

        Lastly, the guy that is the 3rd rated QB.. I read something about him being a good athlete, pocket passer, pro style offense etc. Is he there in the 2nd round?

        • Trac

          All good points Mike. My biggest concern about not taking Mariota if he’s available is that we’ll have to wait 10 years for another decent QB via the draft.

          • Big Mike

            Maybe won’t have to wait that long. If Cutler is 1/2 as terrible as say he is (this blog included), Bears are going to be drafting top 5 next year. Taking Mariota, means Fales is gone (IMO .. so what), our 1st round pick is probably (hopefully), not taking the field much this year. (Which might not be much of a departure from the contribution of past 1st year draft choices).

            I could be talking myself into this 🙂 But I’m a meat and potatoes guy. I want Brandon Scherff. If we keep building the O-line, we reduce reliance on having a QB that can win games all on his own. Given enough time, even David Fales would be just fine.

          • GPLDAN

            You’re informed by the fact the Cowboys built a big O line and used Murray to bang it out, giving Romo his career resurgence.

            Jimmy Finks built the Bears a winner by spending draft picks on Hilgy and Bortz. I get the mentality. It doesn’t always work, but it is one way to do it.

          • Big Mike

            That.. and as a Head Coach, Offensive Coordinator and position coach, I’ve always seen the world from the o-line perspective. Coaching kids, often with no control over the quality of “skill” players, the one thing we can do is build a good Offensive Line and take our chances. Watching HS, College and Pro Football, teams with good or better offensive lines, never suck. Teams with good to better offensive lines and above average talent at the skills position are almost always in contention for playoffs and championships.

        • Scott W.

          I hear every doubt. I’m just on that side of the Mariota fence that believes “Reward”.

        • Irish Sweetness

          He just doesn’t pass the smell test. He smells like a bust. Don’t watch college ball, never know who these guys are outside what I read. But the busts come with loud fanfare … Tebow .. Manziel … Mariota .. and no doubt his bust will be based on talent. Not NFL caliber. Winston’s Character will bust him out.

          • “the busts come with loud fanfare”

            You know who else came with loud fanfare? Peyton Manning, Cam Newton, Andrew Luck, Eli Manning…

          • Big Mike

            Even if you draft an average QB in the first round, you’ve found value. About $12 million a year. Plus you can trade that guy for picks later on.

          • Big Mike

            Irish, I don’t think you’ll be happy with a QB until his name rhymes with Slim PacMahon.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Sean Mannion then ?

          • Big Mike

            Close enough 🙂

          • Trac

            Manziel has his own category Irish. No comparison. On a side note, I’d have loved to see Tebow get a chance to play h – back.

          • madscout12

            Tebow’s throwing motion makes me want to throw up.

            Manziel was captain party and he single handedly took over college games with his speed. He beat teams by ad-libbing and you just can’t do that the same in the NFL.

            Mariota is a system QB. As in, he learned a system so well (full of pro concepts, BTW) that he was a master of that system. A system that called for him to run at times and to play the read option sometimes. But a system that also required him to throw with accuracy, read defenses, and beat teams several different ways. He may bust, but there is no comparison with the above.

          • NewBearInTown

            This isn’t a bad analysis. But system QBs in the NFL frequently don’t have the physical talent to be true franchise guys. You might just be describing why Mariota is a great backup for the next 10 years.

        • BerwynBomber

          You CANNOT — repeat CANNOT — worry about Jay Cutler and the media when deciding whether or not to select a QB in this year’s draft. Whether Mariota is the guy or it is a mid-round guy (or no QB selected at all) you cannot let the media’s potential treatment of Jay Cutler affect the decision one iota.

          And frankly, Cutler has received by and large fair treatment from the media over the years.

          • Big Mike

            Yeah, I wasn’t worried about. Don’t think it is a factor for the Gase/Fox. Just expressing something I don’t look forward to if Mariota is the call.

        • NewBearInTown

          The second round rarely produces any QB picks. If a QB is worth taking in the second, someone usually takes him in the first. Kaepernick is the only exception that comes to mind, and he was in the first couple of picks that day.

          • Big Mike

            Wasn’t Russel Wilson a 2nd round pick? I just don’t want a QB at 7,

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I’ve never seen him throw once, but my instinct tells me he’s the real deal.

      • Trac

        If the best QB in the draft falls in the Bears lap, I don’t see how they won’t draft him.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I don’t care about draft ranking. If he’s good, with improvement potential a team without a franchise Qb was to draft that young QB.

          Especially in the case of Mariota. If they realize it’s though for him to become the Man, you can always trade him to the Eagles for next years 1st rounder. With 2 first rounders next year, you again try and draft a franchise QB.

          PS: The annual salary of the 7th overall pick is $3,657,876. That’s peanuts.
          Even in the worst case scenario of an untradable bust the cap space loss is minimal.

          • NewBearInTown

            The Eagles will not trade a first rounder if he sucks this year. You have to understand that taking a QB in the top 10 is very boom or bust. Either you get a true starter for the next few years at least, or you get a career backup who will net you a second day pick at best.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Debatable.
            A middle-late 1st rounder for a cheap, possibly successful long term QB is really a steal. Chip Kelly would jump on that.

  • GPLDAN

    Can we trade up and get Aaron Donald? Oh…. wait….

    • Bear Down in Tampa

      That’s a bold strategy Cotton, let’s see if it pays off for ’em.

      • GPLDAN

        I shall award you +2004 blog points for that reference.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      You should thank your god the Bears never did that last year.

      There’s only one scheme in which you can use the 3T. You would have now had a high pick out of the scheme or a different coach who uses the 3T friendly scheme.

      In other words no Vic Fangio, the best DC there is. Without him there’s nothing there for the Bears.

  • GPLDAN
    • Big Mike

      I only just watched it about a week ago. I thought it was ok. But my expectations has been set so low because of what I read. The whole scene with the mom pitching a fit, and Costner acting like a baby wasn’t needed. I would have liked more war room stuff.

  • GPLDAN

    Matthew Mcconaughey watches the new Star Wars trailer.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Brilliant.

  • GPLDAN

    The era of the fullback is supposedly over, yet the Boys used Tyler Clutts to great effect to lead smash for Murray last year.

    Perhaps this is my affinity for that Suhey Payton I formation, but bringing back a slammin run game seems well suited to the Bears.

    • Denver didn’t have one under Gase. I like having one though. Play 25-30% of offensive snaps and ST.

      • GPLDAN

        True.

      • Big Mike

        F’n H-Backs are terrible at FB.

        • Generally yes. Rosario is a decent in-line blocker, but he sucked hard as a FB last year.

          • Big Mike

            And the guy before him and the guy before him

    • My Clobbdring Clutts ff team!
      Hope we do get a FB. Maybe Peyton doesn’t need a FB, but we do.
      Hope Fox insists to Gase here about a FB

    • Big Mike

      Love me some Clutts.

    • AlbertInTucson

      And before Suhey, don’t forget Roland Harper who was 8 yards short of 1,000 in 1978.

  • Big Mike

    Mission accomplished Gase/Fox, if the mission was to head into the draft without giving away anything. Bears have now been linked to QB, NT, RB, OLB, OL, Safety and WR. Hub Arkush, just posted some crab about the Bears taking Todd Gurley at 7. A RB with a knee injury history. http://chicagofootball.com/2015/04/17/hub-arkush-2015-nfl-mock-draft-3-0/ad0rpm9/

    • that’s why i find the draft intrigu ing. It’s a deep HB class, but most acknowledge there’s a drop off after the top two.
      How big do teams perceive that drop off? Should we settle for a good not great playet in later rds ? If Adrian Peterson were in this draft, would we have a problem drafting him at #7 (pre child abuse). Is Gurley that good?
      Lots of intrigue

      • Also, on the Gurley angle. A great run game helps the D. Dallas was worse than us on D the year b4, but w a newfound oline and commitment to the run, drained time of possession thus exposing the D less.
        They were a Dez “noncatch” away from perhaps going to the SB based on that philo

        • Big Mike

          Their line was good first.

          • Yes, but w an AP type back, a great oline is almost a luxury. Sanders ran behind crap, but still carried the team.
            Pox better have a vision about what kinda team this is going to be. No more simply trying to plug the holes haphazardly

          • Big Mike

            That’s the great mystery of this off season. The history says, all things being equal, the Bears will build the line first. I just don’t see small RB in this draft worth 7. Last year the first back was late rd 2 or even 3

      • Big Mike

        I like the draft as well. The thing that bothers me the most about Gurley is he’s had knee surgery. You don’t want backs like that. I also don’t think he’s a “generational” talent like AP. But what do I know. I’d like the big RT Brandon Scherff. I said it before.. a line where Bushrod and Slauson are the weak links, would be awesome.
        I don’t hate any of the options the Bears have. Not a big fan of taking a running back.

        It’s going to be real interesting to watch the draft.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Well, Hub CAN’T print “I have no idea what they’ll do.” , can he?

      • Big Mike

        His mocks have literally featured one of everything the last few weeks

        • AlbertInTucson

          Hub Arkush “I put the MOCKery in MOCK!”

        • AlbertInTucson

          Ergo, he’ll be able to say ” I predicted that pick.”

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      That mission of not giving away anything only matters if you trade down. If you down trade down all you’ve done is waste resources.

  • GPLDAN

    Some jag off I know printed this picture and hung it in his office.

    https://image-store.slidesharecdn.com/250bc465-d253-4699-99ad-6c6d5f4daa66-medium.jpeg

    Is there really anything worse than that guy who posts a picture in his office stating how hard they work? Plus, Mark Cuban is a dick. I wanted to vomit.

    • Waffle

      I had to look at someone in the face the other day and ask them what it was like being the guy that everyone, if we lived in the old west, would shoot in the face at the bar simply on principal….and be completely exonerated by the constable for it.

      • Johnnywad

        Did he sit in stunned silence, or say something that further enhanced his douchebaggery?

        • Waffle

          I walked out after I said it like a movie scene.

          • GPLDAN

            Like a boss.

          • Waffle

            Haha, you being faseeshus?

    • Johnnywad

      I know guys like that. Assholes all of them. My philosophy…… work enough to have enough to be able to do some fun stuff with relative frequency and afford myself an outside chance at retiring before I’m too old to do more fun stuff. And not a minute more than that.

      • SC Dave

        This

    • SC Dave

      That’s pretty cunt-like, i gotta say

  • GPLDAN

    Highlights of Hub’s prediction of the Bears shock pick at 7:

    Do you see something there better than Beasley, White, Waynes or Schreff?

    • BerwynBomber

      Except for that injury — which is a huge exception — Gurley looks like the goods. Then again, RBs are so devalued now. Would be tough to take him so high. He could slip to the second round.

    • NewBearInTown

      If he’s the next Walter Payton, he’s obviously a steal.
      But let’s say he’s just really good. Like a Doug Martin. Then no, I don’t think worth taking ahead of one of those guys (assuming they are also good players). Even if he’s like Chris Johnson, and has one truly amazing season, I still don’t favor taking him over a solid guy at one of the other spots.
      I want a 10 year starter with this pick. Only the true HOF running backs are 10 year starters. But I’ll take a tackle, guard, corner, DE, WR or even LB over a running back that gives me 2-3 good seasons.

  • GPLDAN

    Radisson made no bones. And bigger guys that other clubs need to concern themselves with, like Nike, have made noise about AP.

    But The Dodger sent him a bullshit 3-page letter today telling him he was naughty and must be nice, but he can go ahead and play. And now the Vikes are up against it. Zygy is not interested in alienating EVERYONE, so perhaps off to Oakland he goes.

    http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2433811-adrian-petersons-reinstatement-forces-vikings-to-tackle-hard-truth-of-moving-on

    And AP, a man who beat his own child so hard with a whip that the kid will have permanent scars on him for life, including across his testicles, is allowed by Roger Goodell to play football again.

    But, in all reality, the real asswipe, the cretin with no boundaries for moral compromise, is Montgomery County state District Judge Kelly Case. A Republican prick who won his seat in 2012 and is eager not to lose it, this limp dick allowed Peterson to plea down to a misdemeanor when a easy felony conviction was in reach.

    • Scott W.

      Eloquent. Direct. And spot-fucking-on.

    • BearDown100393

      Well yes, yes, we all know how much limp dick Republican pricks love to keep a black man out of jail…. But yeah in this situation, I think you nailed it.

  • Irish Sweetness

    Mayock’s new rankings. Collins not #1 at safety, Cooper not #1 WR.

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000486035/article/mike-mayocks-2015-nfl-draft-position-rankings-40

    • Johnnywad

      I think they’re just using some sort of random number generator at this point.

      • Huge Bear’s Penis

        i always envisioned it was similar to how the Cubs with Jim Hendry drafted and signed FA. A monkey smoking a cigarette with a bingo wheel with all potential names in it. Monkey would spin the wheel a name would pop out if the monkey didn’t crap and throw his shit at someone they would be signed.

        • SC Dave

          That might work!

        • Johnnywad

          There’s no other possible explanation for Dan Bazuin

    • Doesn’t surprise me. Been saying all along, a SS w limited coverage skills is not a top 10.
      Mayock is actually pretty good w safety evaluations. Qb, we’re about as good

  • BearDown100393

    Smokin’ Corey

    • Waffle

      Fuck you and your assumption professional athletes don’t care. Its disrespectful. They’ve dedicated their lives to this in a way that few do in any facet of life.

      • BearDown100393

        Boo fucking hoo.

        • BearDown100393

          Bang that fucking keyboard. Unleash the rage bitch.

          • Waffle

            You’re just exhausting

          • BearDown100393

            Better than being a homophobic bitch.

          • GPLDAN

            Come to Da Blog kids!

            We gotz Area 51 conspiracy, Fed gold standard talk, Moon hoax talk, liberal idiocy, homophobia, slander, deli recommendations, tradewind on tap and Burma Shave poems from Al!

            Zooma-zoom-zoom-zoom!

          • BearDown100393

            Just put Darling in net so I can have some peace. JFC that was a shit show last night.

          • Waffle

            do me a favor today , at multiple points in the day you will have an opportunity to not be a douchebag. I would encourage you to just take an extra couple seconds, take a deep breath and say, “i could be a douchebag at this very moment but i will consciously choose to just be normal”. You can do it. Check back with me in a couple of days.

          • BearDown100393

            You could also suck your own dick and suffocate with your head up your own ass.

          • Huge Bear’s Penis

            you are an idiot.

          • BearDown100393

            Perhaps but not a homophobic asshole.

          • RenoBear

            But see, YOU are the homophobic asshole because you are placing your homophobic anger and frustrations on everyone else. NOBODY here likes reading your drivel. You bring zero insight to anybody here. Don’t be a douche, dude

          • BearDown100393

            Zero insight is par for this particular course. I don’t care what anyone here likes or does not like.

          • Scott W.

            This guy is just another idiot. Sooner or later, he’ll get bored and go back to fingerpainting.
            Just scroll on by. Works for me.

          • Waffle

            give me a break with the homophobia bullshit. The guy acts like a fucking dork and it’s just tolerated so he keeps doing it. I could use any number of descriptors but none do this troll justice. I could say “troll” but it’s become a meaningless term. Guys like him drove MB and a lot of others away and the rest of you guys just tolerate it.

          • BearDown100393

            Good morning you phobic prick.

          • Waffle

            calling someone a prick because they call you out for being a prick is this definition of being a prick.

          • BearDown100393

            You are what you are. And nothing more. A fucking nothing.

          • Waffle

            i don’t even think this is you. Your posts over the last day are alarmingly hostile and i’m concerned about you. Like you bet the farm on Crawford…
            Your normal troll behavior is being replaced by regressive weird anger speech.

          • Waffle

            also, being told you are a nothing by some random guy on the internet is kind of weird. As i wrap up my morning sports reading i’ll try my best to make it through the day. I don’t know how i’ll get through though. I barely have anything to live for apparently.

          • Trac

            There’s a difference between tolerating and ignoring yonny. Ignoring the twits much more profitable in my opinion. Having said that, there are several douche’s on this blog now so I just ignore them because they respond like spoiled children. I’m really sad that my friend Canada checked out as well. A poster really has to be an asshole to be able to piss Canada off. I miss him.

          • Big Mike

            Agreed. When I see @beardown100393:disqus on the blog, I just skip looking at it for the day. He’s missed his calling. He should be dialing in to PM talk radio in Chicago.

          • BearDown100393

            You aren’t missed.

          • Big Mike

            Fuck off troll

          • BearDown100393

            That won’t work.

        • Waffle

          You’re just a fag and that’s all there is to it. Some guys are just built that way.

          • BearDown100393

            You can do better bitch.

          • BearDown100393

            Bang. Bang. Bang. Bitch. Bitch. Bitch.

          • Waffle

            Don’t ever get tired of acting like this ? My posts are of extreme annoyance , yours are weirdly antagonistic and angry

          • BearDown100393

            Your posts are pure idiocy and non-contributory. You add nothing. Because you know nothing. You are trapped in a meaningless existence.

          • Waffle

            Wow. Good night and thanks for your contribution today Terry.

          • Waffle

            This is one of the weirdest and angriest posts you ever written your release you get from trolling must be pretty strong

          • Waffle

            Its wasted on you pal. I jumped on to see if any free agent moves are made and you’re just here sucking and its annoying

          • BearDown100393

            Who cares what you think? Nobody.

          • Waffle

            But what do you even get out of your posts? I mean for instance what’s the point of your Crawford post and how do you somehow manage to tie in your obsession to make troll comments on cutler? Surely you can’t think its clever or that it brings any value

          • BearDown100393

            And yet it exceeds anything you have articulated in your entire life.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Patience, please.

  • beninnorcal

    Trac, I noticed further down that you mentioned Canada checking out. When did this happen and why? I really liked that guy, he was a damn good dude.

    • Trac

      It’s been awhile. I don’t remember who the offender was.

      • beninnorcal

        Sucks, regs dropping like flies. It’s funny how the Bears’ shit season of 2014 really hit this blog hard. I miss MB too.

        • Think it was a confluence of events, the perfect shit storm of a bad season and new posters not to their liking.
          Blog def is a lil different now. That’s why i enjoyed the ff league i created, just the old regs, heck, i even nagged Artoo to finally get thru a whole ff season , which was quite a feat

          • Scott W.

            I can only remember a couple of times in blog history where it wasn’t a little clique-ish, sometimes worse than others.
            Jeff seems to write on through it all though, doesn’t he?
            Personally, I think he’s one of the best Bears writers I’ve ever read. Though we disagree at times (and I’ve behaved like a child over it once or twice), I’m always disappointed when he hasn’t put up a new piece in a while.
            I enjoy the give and take in here, always have. When something big happens, I race to this place to read the comments.
            Some fellow commenters I like, some I hope get bored and leave sooner rather than later.
            Sometimes, though, I forget I’m just a commenter on someone else’s blog.

          • NewBearInTown

            I can no longer keep up with all the comments regularly. And I too get annoyed with some of the posters on here.
            But there are enough good guys that I keep coming back. For one, I’ve actually made some friends on this blog, which is the one and only time I can say that about something online.
            For another, I enjoy the analysis from guys like JWood and Artoo (when he’s on). And, I enjoy the history from guys like Al.
            But yeah, don’t feed the trolls. I can deal with guys that are overly opinionated and overly tuned in to Chicago radio. I can’t deal with useless name calling.

        • SC Dave

          The only bucker of the trend was coach coming back for a day. But it seems the Mad Romanian drove him away. It sucks when noobs that think they know this blog do such things

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            that naive little snowflake.

          • SC Dave

            Whenever you make statements like that, the veterans here question both your intelligence and maturity. It’s up to you to do something about it, but I think we all suspect you will fail.

          • beninnorcal

            Dave is absolutely correct. Barb the impaler is a lot like Cheesy. Seems cool one min only to be a complete bag of dicks(h/t Da coach’s stache) the next.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That’s insulting.

            I have a joke in mind about you, the stache and a bag of dicks.

            PS: When you attack somebody like you did in that post, you have to know you’re open season. Can’t blame the responded at that point.
            Insulting people like that while calling them names is childish. At the very least you put yourself at their level. Which makes you look silly.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            That cunt was most likely changing user names that day and talking insulting smack.
            You seem more interested in statuses and appearances rather than the actual facts. He insulted me…I responded. Period.

            You seem to have a weakness for that slut. I think you’re the one who should explain yourself, because I find it rather disturbing.

          • Scott W.

            ….and there it is….

            You just don’t know when to use the bridge.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            This is the internet. There’s no need for no bridges.

          • Scott W.

            It’s exhausting.

    • Johnnywad

      He’ll be back. Just said he’s taking a break as its gotten a little douchey of late.

      • SC Dave

        A little? That last exchange was rather bizarre. I would think yonny would know better

        • Waffle

          i regretted engaging that guy the moment i typed it in. It will never happen again.

          • RenoBear

            Yeah man I don’t know what the heck is up with that BearBown100027251618 guy… He brings ZERO to this blog. And for him to say you don’t bring anything is ridiculous. I think he may be 12-13years old.. He sounds like it with his insults, etc

          • Waffle

            it’s frustrating because occasionally he does post an interesting link or post something that is worth reading but then he’ll go and piss all over it by being a troll.

            He’s like the Ann Coulter of bears blogging. 1 step forward 2 steps back. 1 solid post, then a bunch of annoying parroted teenager bullshit

            I called him a fag but everyone knows it was only because he was acting like one….

          • BearDown100393

            Fuck you asshole. Fuck all of you.

          • SC Dave

            It’s cool, compadre. You and I have gotten into it but the difference is we know when our spats have run their course and let them go. And I doubt that will change much-> a good thing.

            I’m glad you’re back, man.

    • AlbertInTucson

      AND he’s, like myself, a “Vintage” Bears fan and I need all the peers I can get'”. I just eventually collapsed the shouting match.

      • Scott W.

        Yer good Al.

    • Cormonster

      I talk to Canada on the phone and through Facebook regularly because of our love of similar music, the Bears, and he grew up close to where I live, so we have some other common interests. Basically he saod about 5-6 new guys just pissed him off too much, started dominating the blog, and he said it wasn’t worth it. He told me to let him know if some of them left. I’ll let him know about this little thread next time I talk to him.

      • beninnorcal

        Thanks, Cor. Definitely let him know he’s missed. Keep losing all these good soldiers and pretty soon this is a different blog.

      • Scott W.

        Tell the old bastard I said Hey, Corm. And tell him to get his sister out of Galesburg before it’s too late…

  • According to Bleacher Report’s Jason Cole, Philip Rivers believes the Chargers are “not going to pay him.”
    In other words, Rivers forcing his way out of San Diego isn’t just about relocation fears. Per Cole, the Chargers are “extraordinarily concerned” about Rivers’ physical condition, as well, and will most likely package him in a deal for the Titans’ No. 2 overall pick. Cole reports that Rivers would “love” to play out his career for the Titans and ex-Chargers OC Ken Whisenhunt. The smoke continues to build toward a Bolts/Titans blockbuster, but it doesn’t yet appear inevitable. – roto

    • BerwynBomber

      Heard the same the other night. One more reason why the Cutty-to-TENN rumors seem a pipe dream. If you’re the Titans with a choice between Rivers and Cutty, it is a no-brainer. But if I were TENN I’d be worried about Rivers’ health too. Dude’s a gamer but he has taken a lot of hits thru the years, more so than other trad pocket passers like PManning and Brady.

      • Yeah, the Rivers- ten rumors aren’t going away. I ththink it will go down aa long as Rivers assures them that he won’t retire.
        What’s as interesting is that so many other teams value Mariotta that much. He’s been linked to SD, NYJ, PHI, WASH, CHI, and a few others, even TB And TEN.

        • BerwynBomber

          He is 6’4″, mobile as hell, by all accounts a mature kid, seems capable of improvisation and has been running a two-minute offense his entire time in college. There are potential negatives about him but one can see how a team could talk itself into him.

          • Yeah i can see all that, then i read off-season reports about Kap working w Warner in order to fix his mechanics, accuracy , read Ds, go thru his progression. ..and i wonder uf three years from now, that will be Mariotta .
            Then again, Kap was nearly good enough to win a SB…

          • BerwynBomber

            Kap has the stronger arm but Mariota is the better decision-maker coming out of college. Whether the latter translates to the pros is one of many TBDs.

          • The two things i like most are Mariotta’s character and low ints. Maybe that’s enough to build on.
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          • BearDown100393

            He also isn’t being sued for rape. That is a big plus in the NFL these days.

          • Scott W.

            Mariota is the real deal. It’s not smoke and mirrors, or hype.
            A lot of teams could use him. Some would turn him into David Carr though, so I hope he catches a good break on draft day.
            As much as I want him in a Bears uni come May 1st, the odds are astronomically against Pace being able to pull that off.
            He’s absolutely going to need some work, but they all do.
            I’ve vascillated a few times over the past few weeks, but I always come back around to these…
            –He is a very, very fast learner.
            –He has the size, and he has the legs.
            –He is coachable to say the least.
            –We NEED a QB that can become – and that’s the word, become – very, very good. Gase can get him on that road. We don’t NEED a “beast” on defense as bad as we need a QB that can lead the offense for years.
            –When will we be this close to being able to get a kid of this caliber again? Other positions are typically available every 1st round of every draft.

          • Trac

            I wouldn’t be at all surprised if Lovie shocks the pundits and drafts mariota.

          • Scott W.

            …that would really throw a stick in the wheel, wouldn’t it?

    • Scott W.

      This is the team I’m worried will snatch Mariota up.

      I know Irish thinks he’s a flash-in-the-media pan, but he’s not. The kid is real, and though it’s around 192-1 that we get him, I hope Pace moves the earth to try.

      Winston? Now THERE is your manufactured 1st pick. He just screams “punk”.

  • I think Kendricks will be snatched up in the late 1st As well

    Coach Sean Payton said it’s important for the Saints to draft some defenders who can play “right away.”
    Saints ace beat writer Larry Holder released a mock draft Thursday that has New Orleans selecting Kentucky linebacker Bud Dupree and UCLA ILB Eric Kendricks with the Nos. 13 and 31 picks in two weeks. Dupree’s stock has steadily been on the rise, and he has a chance to be a top-10 pick. Kendricks is the brother of Eagles ILB Mychal Kendricks. Eric is viewed as the top inside linebacker prospect in what appears to be a weak draft class at the position. -Roto

    • SC Dave

      I would be shocked to see Kendricks make the second round. It would be crazy awesome if we could get him in the 2 nd.

      • NewBearInTown

        I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. I would trade a pick to move back into the first to get him. We need picks right now given the number of holes on the roster, but he’s a special player.
        If we did something like taking Trae Waynes at #7, then send our fourth rounder to Indy to move back up and grab him at 29, can anyone really be that upset?
        We take an offensive player in the third (maybe a WR) and a whoever looks good in the fifth and sixth and that’s a pretty nifty looking draft.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Bullshit.

      They run a 3-4 Defense and Kendricks is a 4-3 LB.

      • SC Dave

        Urlacher was a safety in college, so I suppose the Bears making him a MLB was “lame”?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Ok…Bears fans should really try hard and force themselves to get over Lovie and his D.

          In you want to live in the present…. Navarro Bowman and Patrick Willis are a different breed. Of course…you’re free to give examples that have little to do with the actual scheme and defensive coach.

          PS: Urlacher was a beast against the run game, so there’s that. This Kendricks kid seems like a liability in that area.
          Jamie Collins was a S in college and he’s a 3-4 LB. He’s a better example, more recent, more exact. Going back 15 years is unproductive.

      • NewBearInTown

        Actually, converting him to a 3-4 MLB might be good for him. The biggest knock on him right now is his size. If you put him in a 3-4 next to a guy who is more dedicated to supporting the A-gap power run game, and that weakness gets masked a bit.
        And the good thing about that plan is that its a run stop guy that comes off the field on third down – Kendriks remains a 3 down player.
        So yes, I still really like the idea of the Bears taking him. If we trade down into the teens, I don’t think twice.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          First of all that has nothing to do with Vic Fangio’s ILB philosophy. So…hell no

          Second of all… have you ever seen how and what kind of a Defense the Ryan brothers run ?

          Lets put it this way….Kiko Alonso was shipped in a heart beat.

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