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Likely Offensive Turnaround in 2015 Makes Bears and New OC Adam Gase a Perfect Match

| February 2nd, 2015

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There was a popular refrain sung on social media about midway through the 2014 season, denigrating General Manager of Christmas Past Phil Emery for building a fantasy team on offense. The connotation of this accusation seemed to be that the Bears offense was a collection of talented individuals who somehow did not work as a unit. The string quartet brought together two brilliant violins, a heartbreaking cellist and virtuoso violist but their  performance lacked cohesion.

Now, unless fantasy football has changed drastically since I last played (Marshall Faulk won me a fantasy title in my last year involved), the object of the game is production. Productive players equal fantasy points equal victories equal a nice pile of cash men can hide from their wives to use at strip clubs with oddly vague names like Sensations.

Only Chicago Bears fans, who’ve had maybe six great skill players in the organization’s history, could wage the complaint “We’ve got too many productive players on offense!”

Phil Emery made mistakes as Bears GM, most notably hiring the worst head coach in team history.

But Emery deserves nothing but praise for this assemblage of offensive talent. The Bears, the damn Chicago Bears, have two top receivers, a top tight end and two top guards. (Yes, Matt Slauson is a top guard. His absence was THE major factor in the offensive line’s decline in 2015.) The team also has one of the league’s finest backs and a productive quarterback. 2013’s offensive production was not an aberration or anomaly. It was the proper output from one of the league’s most talented units.

2014 was the aberration. Both receivers struggled with injury. The play caller and quarterback were not only on different pages but reading books in different languages. The offensive line that played sixteen games the year previous never managed to find the field at the same time. Everything that could go wrong, including a backstabbing turncoat coordinator, did.

Enter Adam Gase.

Reports surfaced after Gase’s interviews in Jacksonville and Baltimore that while those organizations were quite impressed with him, they were also well aware Gase is one decent season away from becoming a head coach. This is how coaches like Greg Olson and Marc Trestman hang around. The head coach has no fear either man will leave them at year’s end. For non-offensive minded head coaches, turnover at the offensive coordinator position can be a fatal flaw. (See: Smith, Lovie)

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The Bears job was the perfect match. Why?

For one, John Fox does not have to worry about continuity. There is a chance barring a LANDMARK turnaround, Cutler, Marshall and Forte will not be on this Bears roster beyond the coming season. If Gase leaves the Bears at the end of the 2015 calendar year, Fox can either promote rising star Dowell Loggains from within or find a new voice to pair with what will be a young offensive nucleus. Remember, the Bears will not be running a Gase or Loggains or anybody else offense. They will be running a John Fox offense.

Second, Chicago presents for Gase the best opportunity to fulfill his higher aspirations. In Chicago he takes over a talented yet wildly underachieving unit. The Bears failed to crack the top 20 in just about any offensive category of import. Gase knows if he can climb the rankings, as he should with this collection of players, and perhaps cut down the quarterback’s mistakes, every team with an opening will be knocking on his door come 2016.

There was another popular refrain sung by Bears fans, this one prior to the start of the dismal 2015 campaign. “If the Bears can be a middle of the road defense, their offense should be able to carry them into the playoffs.” With Fox and Vic Fangio in place, expecting the Bears to be significantly better on the defensive side is not a pipe dream. The question that will define the competitive level of the 2015 season? Is Adam Gase the offensive mind the league has made him out to be? If he is, dare we think it, the Bears should be a pretty good team.

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  • Trac

    I disagree with any suggestion that Emery assembled the finest Bears offense of any kind. Ridiculi!

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Disagree to disagree.

  • Shady

    What, no Super Bowl recap?

    • GPLDAN

      Recap:

      Tom got sloppy gooey tweets from Giselle for being so very Tommy.

      Brandon Marshall and Rodger hung out after the game and discussed what it was like to get your ribs broken, one physically and one metaphorically.

      • BearDown100393

        Hanging out with the Goodell bot is on par with dating your parole officer.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Super Bowl recap… I was begging in august for Emery to go and trade a high draft pick for Jonas Gray, Malcom Butler and a ST type LB with the Patriots.

      • Shady

        Jonas Gray and Malcom Butler aren’t shit without the coaching in NE.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          yeah… but you can’t coach uncoachable players.

          A bruiser back and a cover CB were big weaknesses this year. Fox might have used them well.

          • Big Mike

            Under Tucker those guys would be out of the league next season.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            true that.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Malcom Butler has no brain based on his gaffe in the SB. And that was a gaffe. Catches an interception in the endzone, falls BACKWARDS and then gets out of the endzone. If Bennett doesn’t encroach, there is a good chance the Pats get stuffed in the endzone for a safety – that line was JAMMED.

        I’ll remember that play and Kearse’s circus catch which has to be one of the best ever. BEckham’s was a single movement, there were a lot in Kearse’s.

        • Johnnywad

          Well he was a rookie in the final seconds of the Superbowl winning the game that had been lost. Let’s not pick nits shall we?

          • Irish Sweetness

            Just sayin’ it was a dumb move of stellar proportions.

          • CanadaBear

            I don’t get why you keep posting this. He made the play of the game. He made an unbelievably great play, banged off the WR, got knocked back into the end zone and then his teammates practically pushed him out of the end zone. At worst they tackle Brady for a safety and will get the ball back with about 10 seconds left. Every one of his teammates said he won the game for them and you keep insisting he’s a bozo.

          • Irish Sweetness

            In retrospect I thought there was like a minute left on the clock. There wasn’t. Even if they get stuffed for the safety, yes, SEA wouldn’t have had more than a play or so to get in position for a FG.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I think the pick showed his brains. Can’t fault such a young player for not knowing in 1/10 of a second what to do and what not to.

          Instinct tells you to go forward into the ground, not go backwards.

          PS: Almost fumbled the ball because of Hightower.

  • Jack Lacan

    Pete Carroll is the Bill Buckner of football.

    • not sure the comparison is apt. buckner let the ball go through his legs. he didn’t make the call that led to the ball going through his legs.

      wouldn’t russel wilson be buckner?

      • Jack Lacan

        Ok…I defer to your comparison — mine was invidious…

    • FourFeathers

      Carroll won two national chamoionships at USC and has taken Seattle to back to back Super Bowls 5 years into his tenure.

      • Irish Sweetness

        … and on 2nd and 1 at the goal-line to win a superbowl … he called a pass play into the heart of a concentrated defense, which even if it had just gone incomplete, would have stopped the clock.

        Good call Pete.

  • Trac

    Yes, we should dare the Bears to be a good team next year. We’re gonna find out what the most complete coaching staff the Bears have had since the Ditka Era has to offer.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      What up… Trac ?

      • Trac

        You lucky barbarian.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          First of all… is that how you call it over there and second… can a barbarian be lucky ?

          • Trac

            Hahaha. My question for you is how many items of furniture and decor did you break in the 3rd and 4th quarter?…. hmm, hmm? Hahaha

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            It was 04.00-05.00 in the night/morning here…so none.

            I thought you were talking about the discussion we had 3 months ago about who’s gonna win the Super Bowl and who wasn’t.

            I don’t remember how it went…wait…I might… no i don’t…yeas I do…

            Barb UMihai Mar > Trac • 3 months ago
            The Patriots will win the Super Bowl this year Trac. They are everything, but cheap.

            Trac > Barb UMihai Mar • 3 months ago
            Wow!!! Wow!!! Wow!!! Did I say Wow?

            PS: Hahahah

          • Trac

            You liked that did you? Hahaha

  • GPLDAN

    Johnny Manziel is entering treatment for what? He’s not an alcoholic. He’s a douche bag. Do they have centers for that?

    The Donald Trump Center for Wellness.

    • BearDown100393

      Government subsidized in Romania.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        or else…

    • CanadaBear

      When people start mentioning your name in the same sentence as Ryan Leaf drastic action is needed. Like Gov. Lepetomane says, “We must do something to protect our phony, baloney jobs.”

    • AlbertInTucson

      I repeat a post from late in the last thread on that Blogfather Tweet.

      Blogfather: “Johnny Manziel is entering treatment for what? He’s not an alcoholic. He’s a douche bag. Do they have centers for that?”

      I thought that was a Low blow.

      I don’t (and never did) like the guy, either, but he IS admitting he has problem. An addiction.
      Booze or drugs, whatever.

      While not all douche bags are alcoholics or druggies, all alcoholics and druggies ARE basically douche bags. Maybe Johnny Foot-In-Mouth, sans booze, is STILL a douche bag, maybe he ISN’T. It’s too soon to tell.

      Kind of like Blogfather’s early take yesterday on Tom Brady’s wretchedness.

      • DaBearsBlog

        PR move. He is not admitting anything. Alcoholics don’t party too hard at dance clubs with entourages. Manziel needed to do something drastic to show “change”.

        • CanadaBear

          Gotta agree about the PR part of it. I’m trying not to pile on too hard in case he actually is sincere but it seems highly unlikely.

        • AlbertInTucson

          SURE they do if they’re rich and, like Manziel, have been entitled all their lives.

          At that point they certainly aren’t ever aware they are alcoholics.

          Thumbs down from me on that tweet AND trying to defend it.

          • CanadaBear

            Twitter. SMH.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Well said Jefe. He’ll check in somewhere, waste a ton of someone else’s money, check out and be party-all-the-time in no time. He’ll be one of those guys who falls off the wagon every two weeks.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Blogfather calls Manziel a douchebag, you say “Low blow”.

        “all alcoholics and druggies ARE basically douche bags”

        Low blow?

        They may act like douche-bags, but they’re ill. Take away the booze/drugs and they’re just people, and people are just different facets of the one true consciousness.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I should have clarified.to “non-recoving” alcoholics and druggies.”

          My pointWAs that if you take away the substanceabuse, there may be a decent person in there.

          OF course, there’s a chance they’re still just a douche bag.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Methinks there is a decent person inside every person … and a douche-bag. So we agree.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yeah but the booze and the drugs never bring out the decent one.

  • GPLDAN

    Was it kind of stupid for Budweiser to mock craft brews putting down Pumpkin Ale while, with the other hand, buying up craft breweries as fast as they can?

    That and the Nationwide ultra-depressing dead kid ad were the most tone deaf ads of the night.

    • CanadaBear

      Now that InBev is responsible for about half the beer brewed in the world, I’m not sure any of their commercials would make sense if you really started to break them down.

      • SC Dave

        No…. they are perhaps responsible for selling half of the swill that some would call beer.

    • BearDown100393

      Nationwide switched from Manning to a dead kid. I guess Eli got lost heading to the shoot so improvisation was required.

    • Big Mike

      I thought the Budweiser ad was brilliant. It gives the Budweiser swilling crowd some credibility. They need to nurture that base. Buying micro brews is just smart diversification.

      Regarding nationwide, if I had not had the same insurance agent for the last 30 years, I’d have fired his ass. As it stands, he’s in the barrel for our next round of golf.

    • Irish Sweetness

      What’s stupid is that there are beer commercials at all. Alcohol abuse touches everyone on the planet in some way. Smoking ads are banned, but we’re programming future generations to think that alcohol is a good thing.

      Fox News super bowl piece was on …. the ads. Of course. These corporations get TV time BEFORE the superbowl and AFTER the super bowl for FREE.

      When N*****wide said they weren’t trying to sell insurance but bring attention to safety it stuck in my craw. Pretty sure that was a big old N*****wide logo at the end of the ad. If you’re serious about what you said, then pay for the ad, but don’t show your logo. Using dead kid imagery to sell insurance. Corporate cock-sucking whores, each and every one of them. Fox News and all the idiots who stand around water-coolers buying into it makes me sick to the core of my soul.

    • Johnnywad

      Likely no. Most of the world doesn’t think about anything beyond the icing on the cake when they see these commercials. You’re digging around in the bottom of the cake pan. Budweiser is a wildly successful company with a good enough product to be sold the world over without changing a damn thing from year to year. They rarely do anything stupid.

      • Irish Sweetness

        To negate all the free advertising Budweiser is getting ….

        Here’s the next superbowl ad I want to see :

        Clint Eastwood sits down in the evening sun, wiping the sweat of the day’s work from his brow, and cracking open a bud, takes a long chug.
        He winces. “God … this tastes like piss.”

        Cut to Clydesdales clopping along.

        Voiceover :” Budweiser … brewing horse piss and getting people fucked up for a hundred and forty years.”

        Fade-out to a Clydesdale licking a Lab-retriever and her litter of puppies because Americans love their dogs, guaranteeing Fox & Friends play the thing ten times for free after the superbowl as the Stepford wives and the Guy Smileys all fawn over it.

        Next ad. A kid’s birthday party. Two in the afternoon. His new ball bounces out onto the quiet road in front of his house. He opens the gate in the white picket fence and goes out to retrieve his ball.
        From out of nowhere, a drunk driver slams his Lambo into the kid doing one eighty. Such is the momentum of the impact there is only a vapor cloud of blood where the child was standing.

        Fades out to “State Farm Insurance” (or Nationwide, pick your own corporate-cocksucker)

        Then release your statement saying that you’re not making the ad to sell insurance, but to draw attention to the dangers of drink-driving. Assholes.

        • Johnnywad

          You’ve obviously got some history with drunk driving in some way. Most people don’t get lit up and proceed to race their car through a neighborhood. How do you feel about guns? I have guns, and I like to drink beer and I’ve yet to kill anybody. Same for every single person I know or am related to. None of them have killed anybody either.

        • Johnnywad

          What the hell does Budweiser have to do with Nationwide and their commercial? Further, are you suggesting its Budweiser’s fault people drink and drive? How about we go after Phillip Morris turned Altria, or Remington Arms. How about Irwin tools? I could easily kill somebody with a hammer. Hell, why not Lamborghini? After all, didn’t they build the car that smoked the kid?

          Give me a break Irish. I’m sorry if alcohol has impacted your life this way. But it isn’t Budweiser that did it.

  • CanadaBear

    I FFWD the half time spectacle but at hyper speed I failed to see even a tiny bit of cleavage from Katy Perry. I was surprised to see Lenny Kravitz but i read he was reduced to a sideman. I read Missy Elliott was good. I thought the game was great. Esp the ending. You know you really dislike someone when rooting for Belichick/Brady seems like a good option. I thought Carroll was going to cry. I thought Barb made a good point about NE stacking the middle of the D but I’m guessing the read option with Wilson doing a keeper around end would have been a walk in.

  • NewBearInTown

    Let me go record as saying I liked Phil Emery. When Emery quoted a song in his farewell, I made a mental note to look up the artist. To date, I had not done so. Thank you Jeff for posting the song so I could finally listen to it.
    With that said. Wow, what a horrible song.

    • DaBearsBlog

      It is wretched. I didn’t even get thru it.

      • CanadaBear

        I took everyone’s word for it!

      • Irish Sweetness

        See? He has a bad taste in music. What’s Pace into?

    • Sactowns#1

      It’s painful. I thought it was a joke or something.

  • GPLDAN
    • BearDown100393

      Pete Carroll will be joining the ranks of Ray Finkel and Bruce Jenner.

    • Irish Sweetness

      So he decided they were going to throw it on 2nd, and run it on 3rd and 4th if needed?

      It was either getting caught for a TD or an INT Pete. There was never going to be a 3rd or 4th once you decided to pass it on 2nd.

      Surely you run it on 1st and 2nd and THEN think about passing it.
      Yay or nay?

  • CanadaBear

    Just read a funny one on SI. Someone tweeted the inspiration for Katy Perry’s fiery dress was Bam Bam Bigelow.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Shhhhh…don’t burst people’s bubble. Emery was a bum and the roster he constructed is pathetic.

    PS: I don’t know about Forte being gone at the end of this next year. He either gets cut this year or he’ll get another 2 years minimum.

    He has 8 mil cap space, so they’ll either restructure or extend. They should extend without doubt… Forte is a RB that can excel at later ages even if as purely in 3rd down/passing down/hurry up Offenses.

    He’s a Marshall Faulk type of player and those kind age differently. They keep on producing till the end.

    • SC Dave

      Matt Forte is the best player on the Chicago Bears. And its no contest.

    • Huge Bear’s Penis

      I am having a hard time keeping up. I thought you always preached Emery was a beast. what changed???

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I was ironic in that post.

        I said Emery was a “potential” Beast. I was probably Emery’s biggest critic from 2 years ago when people were all exited about the new Bears look. I was bashing Emery for hiring the offensive version of Lovie like from 1 month in the 2013 season.

        I always saw his weaknesses and traits. I just think he can improve on his weaknesses and I blame the Bears ownership for exposing them, instead of giving him the help he needed.

        I believe they should have gave him an Acrosi type of consultant to steer the ship in the right direction and allow him to hire his own coach from the get go. Instead they left him on his own, made him keep Lovie and demanded a Lovie type of HC as his next and only HC hire.

  • John Doe

    I believe NFC West will look very different next year. Seahawks will crumble a bit after the devastating loss last night. That team will not remain the same. 49ers started going down this year and will continue the slide next year with some curious coaching decisions.

    • NewBearInTown

      If Carson Palmer stays healthy, next year could be the Cardinal’s year. They looked very solid this year before the injury bug struck.
      St Louis also is waiting to make a push.

      • John Doe

        No QB in St. Louis. And Carson Palmer will be coming off ACL at age 35. It will be dicey.

        Things will open up on the NFC side for sure. Lions will lose 1 or 2 big pieces on defense. Packers will be early favorites imo.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Seahawks will not crumble. They might need some time after they pay Wilson, but they’ll always be at the top.

      I think it’s possible all the crap people said about the Cowboys at the beginning of this year will be said about the 49ers…with similar results.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’m surprised people think they’re on the wane, I never saw them as dangerous to begin with. If the Cards find a QB, then they’re the dominant team in the NFC along with Seattle IMO.

    • Irish Sweetness

      The Hawks were a c**t-hair away from being repeat SB champs. If Carroll calls trap left on that 2nd and 1, game over. Now we have to listen to crap about Brady being the GOAT, which he’s not, but we’ll have to listen to it because of the rings. The Hawks will be in the NFC championship again, maybe with the Cards this time.

    • Sactowns#1

      No, they’ll crumble when their entire offense, aka Marshawn Lynch, signs with another team.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    At the beginning of this offseason I wanted as the bears next HC 3 ex HCs and 1 coordinator. Rex Ryan, Kubiak and josh McDaniels and 1 coordinator Vic Fangio.

    The first 3 did great for themselves and the 4th one we’re lucky to have.

    PS: About Vic Fangio… if he didn’t get consideration this year he never will. So, at least on Defense we can count on him for an extender period of time. Unlike the Offense, as Jeff says in his main post.

  • GUYS!

    Trestman wasn’t lying. The Bears DID have good practices. See the quote below from Jared Allen:

    “One thing we do is we work. I’ll be honest, I don’t think we had a bad practice all year,” Allen said.

    • NewBearInTown

      In some ways that’s an ever greater indictment of the coach. If the players aren’t getting the game plan you can blame the coach for being a bad teacher or the player for being a bad student. If the players are getting the game plan, executing it properly, and the team still stinks… Who else can blame but the one who wrote it?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Another problem… motherfuckers did the same shit over and over and over again.

        In the games…surprise, surprise… the opposition took that away and they become clueless.

      • SC Dave

        Why? If the practices were good, and the players were learning, who was responsible on the field when the game was played?

    • BearDown100393

      No team to a man was prouder to practice than the 2014 Chicago Bears.

      • Irish Sweetness

        I’m calling BS on the team’s mantra that they practiced well. As Mongo pointed out, the ’85 team practiced two a days … and “practiced like they played”, which was Halas’ mantra.

        Fail to prepare, prepare to fail, etc.

  • NewBearInTown

    The NFC North will be a tough division next year and likely for a few years to come. Caldwell and Zimmer are both strong coaches building very different teams. Caldwell will get the most out of Detroit’s high power offense. Zimmer will build a consistently fierce defense in Minny. And Green Bay will still have Rodgers for another 5 years.
    I hope Jeff is right and the Bears can retool under Fox. Its going to be brutal down the stretch.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      1. Detroit’s high power offense ?
      2. Zimmer ? Vic Fangio is the best DC in the division.

      I wouldn’t paint such a pessimistic scenario. The Bears could be instant contenders if they want to. Especially now that you have real football guys with real power.

      • NewBearInTown

        Detroit has a strong passing game and a decent defense that will take a step back without Suh but remain competitive. They scored a lot of points this year.
        Fangio being a great DC does not take away from Zimmer’s talents. Just like Seattle being great the past few years didn’t take away from what Fisher and Arians did in St. Louis and Arizona.
        Just saying, this will not be an easy division next year.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Detroit’s offense was worse than Bears Offense this year.

          Of course you respect Zimmer, but our guy is even better.

          • CanadaBear

            Just looked it up. Detroit was better on O. Not by a lot but better. I think Stafford is slightly better than Cutler. Megatron is amazing and Tate stepped up this year when Megatron was dinged up. It will be interesting to see if they can get Suh signed.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Well… of course they were better… had an elite Defense behind them. All they needed was 4-5 big plays a game and it’s a win.

            Put last years pathetic Bears Offense with the Lions D and you’ll have an elite team.

          • CanadaBear

            Not with the same injuries on O. It’s really hard to analyze individuals when the entire team was a train wreck.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            The Bears wouldn’t have been a train wreck if they would have had an elite Defense. You beat the Bills, beat the packers at home,… .

            When you win you can hide your problems.

          • CanadaBear

            Obviously.

          • Johnnywad

            I didn’t watch much Lions football but the fact their offense was only slightly better than the Bears’ surprises the hell out of me.

          • CanadaBear

            Did me too. Although they didn’t operate in garbage time nearly as much as we did. I’ve never liked Stafford. Gets way too much credit because he had that 5,000 yd season. To me he’s Cutler with a suck up personality, jerking off the media.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Stafford playing for TB or WAS completely disappears.
            Yay or nay?

          • CanadaBear

            Yay.

        • Irish Sweetness

          Well, we’re in a position to take Suh if we dump certain contracts, and if one of those is Cutty’s then we’re in a position to get a top pass rusher, possibly two.

          That scratches Detroit and puts a serious dent in GB’s hopes. Our problem with Rodgers is we’ve let him stand in there. With a pass rush, he can look very human indeed.

  • GPLDAN
    • Shady
      • GPLDAN

        Like Guy Fieri, your genius has no off switch.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Called the left shark genius at the end of the game. Another DBB first.

        DBB : “Shaping the media and public opinion:

        We’re like a Neo-con think-tank …. without the money and natty suits.

  • Shady

    Best Super Bowl ever? It’s gotta be up there.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Why does it have to be a ‘best …. ever’ ?

      every Super Bowl that ends in a last drive are special at the same level. The Santonio Holmes catch in the Super bowl for example was as spectacular moment.

      • Peanut FTW

        I think everyone probably has a couple of personal favorites.. for me this one was fairly unspectacular. Maybe if the Hawks had won, that circus catch and Matthews coming out party might have made it pretty great but as those moments are lost in a losing effort, it just kind of ended up with Brady and Bellichick being Brady and Bellichick. For me no where near as good as the Steelers win Barb mentioned or the Giants upsetting the perfect Pats that season.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          For me, it was the most special since I watch american football because I’m a fan of Belichick, Brady and their team in general.

          But that’s a a personal view. In general every close Super Bowl is special.

          • Irish Sweetness

            I watch football because of Walter Payton, and Papa Bear and his Bears. You really do sound more like a Patriots fan, Barb. You’re our New England Cheesy, n’est pas ?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’m a fan of Belichick and the type of american football style they play.

            I despise the Patriots club as an entity and their fans.

            I think you have a rather strange view of things… it’s like I couldn’t appreciate how the the San Antonio Spurs play basketball if I’m a Pacers fan.

            There’s a difference between being the fan of a football team and being the fan of a certain style of playing football.

            They’re 2 different things… I’m not only the fan of a team…I’m also a fan of the sport. I also like the Oakland Raiders because I like their fans and Al Davis.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Kidding me? The Kearse circus catch. The last minute interception. The question of teh PAts being able to run the ball out of the endzone? Bennett’s encroachment to nullify it … incredible drama, not just a last second TD pass/catch. Great stuff?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Of course… but how about the Giants helmet catch ? I’m not a historian of the game, but I bet there are amazing plays on every ending, deciding drive…both offense or defense.

          They’re all incredible drama moments. I wouldn’t classify them because they’re all special.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Great, wasn’t it? The Superbowl used to be synonymous with ass-kickings. I remember watching the Niners drubbing the Broncos 55-10. The announcers were running out of things to say by half-time. But that superbowl was awesome. Drama right til the end and a fight at the finish!

    • SC Dave

      Rams – Titans was way better. Especially since it did not involve obvious cheaters.

  • Peanut FTW

    I despise Pete Carroll, so let’s start there but I think he is getting some unfair criticism about the call. You want to minimize the time left when you score and you only have 1 timeout. 2nd and goal from the one. If Wilson just basically has the instruction, “if it’s not wide the f open, throw it into the end zone seats to stop the clock” ; with 20 secs left and one timeout that is a decent call. Then you get two attempts with Lynch from the one to punch it in and a timeout to be safe. That essentially guarantees victory. So Wilson forces that slant when it was covered and it is Carroll’s fault? I obviously don’t know what the call was like but I can’t imagine it not being understood that if someone wasn’t wide open you throw the ball away.

    • NewBearInTown

      I think that’s exactly how it went down. Except it was Bevell, not Carol that called it.

      The big criticism, in my mind, is that you should have had Lynch take another carry first. Run the clock down to allow for exactly two plays. The two plays are either Seattle TD and a kickoff, or Seattle incomplete pass and a TD. Odds are good Lynch scores on the first try based on how he was running to that point.

      But what you describe is exactly why the play was not as boneheaded as many critics are calling it. It was an attempt to trust Wilson and give him essentially a free shot. When you watch the play in real time, you realize how great that DB was. Wilson saw his man wide open and the DB jumped the route in about half a second. Not dissimilar to Brady’s second interception.

      You can put it on Wilson for not spotting the defense properly. You can put it on the DB for making a great play. You can put it on the coaches for creating the situation where turnovers can happen. But I don’t think anyone deserves to be run out of town for that one.

      Now Bennett, encroaching on the next play? Yeah, that was a bonehead move.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        the game was over when Bennett made the stupid play.

        • CanadaBear

          Of all the guys to bitch about for the Squawks, Bennett is the last guy i’d be ripping on. Until the Pats adjusted in the 2nd half, he was a one man gang. Yeah it was a bad play but they said on the broadcast that he led the league in offsides calls (10). Trying to anticipate the count and make a play. That was basically their only hope at that point.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Improbable hope at best.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Michael Bennett was the best player on the field.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Chris Matthews had a nice game.

            Was he even on the field for that last play?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            no

        • willbest

          Was there room to kneel down without the safety?

          2 points, free kick. Say 9 seconds and a time out. Could be enough to get you in FG range to win it.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            he wouldn’t have did a kneel down… tried a QB sneak.

            the only way it works is if the D forces a safety on the first play, so they don’t use the last timeout.

            then there’s a punt from the 20. A fair catch on an average 55 yards punt is in order…not to lose time. Could be a 60 yards punt if the Punter isn’t afraid of a return and can hit it in the middle of the field.

            That puts you at the 25 yards (best scenario) with about 10 sec max and a timeout. Can you run a 35 yards play in 10 seconds and call a timeout to force a 57 yarder FG ?

            the seahawks had to: force a safety on the first try, hope on an average punt, complete a 35 yarder, call time out, hit a career record FG.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      They went pass, run, timeout, pass/run instead of run, timeout, pass, pass/run.

      First scenario gives you unpredictability… the 2nd scenario makes you predictable, but with your strong suit.

      • John Doe

        They also had Wilson bootleg option. The best running QB in the league and they did not use him in that crucial situation.

        One can agree with the pass play call. But the play design choice was terrible given the game situation. You want to take out as much risk as possible. If you are calling a pass play, call a pass at either corners or back of the end zone where it is only your guy who can catch it or it is out of bounds. Where was Luke Wilson the big TE who had a pretty good year and would have been ideal in that situation.

        A slant in the middle of a crowd with Super Bowl on the line? Stupid.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          That’s a QB decision. Not a coaching, strategy, play calling matter.

          The Patriots went Edelman-Simon safe route, safe throw for the lead minutes before. Maybe Wilson thought Butler was a liability seing he attacked him numerous times after he entered the game.

          That was a mistake…Butler is a baller… his preseason game against the Eagles was a dandy. He was impersonating Revis… who watched that game in august saw a future star being born.

          He’s also excellent STer. That made his available for the game. Which is a lesson in itself.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Idiot call but, let’s face it, they were out played for most of the last 2 games and were still 1 play from the title.

      • CanadaBear

        They were leading a charmed life to say the least. I thought at some point they would have to make more than a half dozen plays on offense to win but they almost pulled it off.

    • SC Dave

      The vast majority of this very blog would be proclaiming it’s brilliant unexpected wonderfulness had it *worked*. SMFH

  • Sactowns#1

    I have to say that song posted up above is just terrible. I would imagine this is the song SNL would play in the background of some fictitious douche ad. I thought people only wrote songs like this as a joke. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pGe6D0NpcPk

    • DaBearsBlog

      Phil Emery apparently loved it

  • CanadaBear
    • AlbertInTucson

      Maybe we won’t have to suffer his presence on the NFL Network any more…?

      • CanadaBear

        We can only hope. i don’t get the NFL channel here in BC. I had it as part of a pkg in Alberta. Certainly not worth paying extra for it.

  • AlbertInTucson

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog
    Warren Sapp can’t get laid?

    You’re surprised he has to pay for it?

    • AlbertInTucson

      Wonder when his next Dan Patrick appearance will be.

    • AlbertInTucson

      This, from the man who called Brandon Marshall “Retarded”.

      • BearDown100393

        They were planning to co-purchase a shrimp boat.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      I have trouble judging certain people for their weaknesses.

      Warren Sapp
      Raised in Plymouth, Florida he grew up on a dirt road, with him and his older siblings squeezing into a one-bedroom, yellow-and-white wooden frame home.There was no mailman coming to the door, no cable, no air conditioning.
      With Sapp’s father out of the picture, his mother worked four jobs to make ends meet, from cleaning houses to working at a local nursery and restaurant.

      When you become a victim of your environment, your hole life is a contradiction and you hit your brain every day for entire decades… you’re going to have numerous unresolved issues.

      • CanadaBear

        I totally agree Barb but at some point you have to take responsibility for your life and stop blaming your upbringing. Esp when you’re well past 40.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Of course. I believe he’s a father, which basically makes me erase every possible ‘excuse’.
          You decide to have kids, don’t push your crap down their throats.

          That being said I can’t act arrogant and superior. As long as you don’t hurt anybody… do whatever you want to do.

      • BearDown100393

        Mailman entered the rear door.

      • WP4Life

        whats his issue with talking crap about everyone else…

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          I too don’t like him.

      • Trac

        He may as well have put himself in a prison cell. It ain’t worth it.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Putting yourself in a prison cell to see who’s coming to save you is a rather usual act. Happens everyday with everybody.

    • BearDown100393

      Sheriff Joe narrates Sapp’s “Football Life”.

    • GPLDAN

      He was looking for a…. wait for it…..

      Yellow bellied Sapp Sucker.

      • CanadaBear

        The R-rated muppets give it 2 thumbs up. That is, if muppets have thumbs.

        • AlbertInTucson

          I’m pretty sure the old guys in the balcony, Statler & Waldorf, had thumbs and they WOULD be up for that.

          • CanadaBear

            Loved that show. When they had a host that was as silly as the Muppets it was comedy gold. Liberace and Victor Borge come immediately to mind.

      • AlbertInTucson

        That is AWFUL. I’m Surprised I didn’t post it.

  • GPLDAN

    Richard Sherman mocking Darrelle Revis on the sideline is one of the most childish and unprofessional acts you’ll see in sports. Classless.

    The end of the game was marred by the bar room brawl. This wasn’t some regular season game in Oakland, this was the Super Bowl. To have the whole thing break out into a fist fight was the cap on a embarrassment of a season for Goodell.

    • CanadaBear

      I think Jeff may have forgotten about Mark Gastineau.

    • Gronkowski, and any other Patriots player who threw a punch in that, should have been ejected from the game and therefore unable to celebrate on the field with his team.

      Throwing a punch in a game is supposed to be an automatic ejection. I was disappointed the refs didn’t follow through on that.

      • SC Dave

        What? He *is* a Patriot, after all. Just how UNAMERICAN are you?

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    Jeff tweated: One thought. How is the Seahawks play call terrible if Russell Wilson is an elite quarterback? Both can’t be true.

    Wholeheartedly disagree, blogfather. I don’t care if Joe Montana was the QB. If you have the ball on the 1, with the best short yardage back since The Bus in the backfield, you don’t throw into coverage with three downs to play and a timeout. Stupid play call regardless of how “elite” Russel Wilson is.

    I was rooting for the Hawks since I live around Seattle and I enjoy their defense and running game. So I was sitting there in the closing minute saying, “just give it to Beast Mode, three times in a row if necessary. Don’t get cute. GIVE.THE.BALL.TO.BEAST.MODE!!!!! ” And what do they do? they throw a quick slant to their 5th best receiver into coverage. Inexcusable.

    Coaches are always outsmarting themselves. Like when Lovie stayed with the Jones/Benson rotation in the SB even though Jones was shredding the Colts D at the time. Don’t be so cute. Go with what works! It aint rocket science. I stand amid a city, shocked. And while I don’t share their pain, I share their utter disbelief. Worst coaching move in the history of football. Still cannot believe it. I looked down at my yellow lab on the floor when they called that play and she looked at the t.v. with her head tilted sideways. Even my dog knew that was a fucking stupid call.

    Just. Wow.

    • AlbertInTucson

      That pick was a BIT reminiscent of James Harrison’s End-of-the-first-half killer against Kurt Warner and the Cardinals except that it ended up being a 10-14 turnaround instead of the gut-wrenching, game clincher.

    • Shady

      I’m not exactly sure what Jeff was saying with that one, but I don’t think he’d disagree with you. Bad bad bad call. I think his point was that Wilson isn’t “elite” whatever the fuck that means.

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        To me, he’s saying if Wilson is truly elite, then it wasn’t a bad call. And I completely disagree.

        • Shady

          Well I know that’s what he literally said, but what was his point? To me it was an obviously bad play call so Wilson can’t be “elite”. Man I hate that term.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            I’m sorry. I don’t follow. Like I said, i would not have liked the play call if Joe Montana was the QB (not the Cuban mobster, the other one). I fail to see how Russel Wilson’s eliteness has any thing to do with anything here.

          • BearDown100393

            Tony Montana

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            My bad. Your’e right.

          • Shady

            Elite QBs don’t even attempt that pass in that situation.

          • Trac

            Ha! Cutty Badger would.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            Maybe. But if that’s the case, why did the coaches send in the play call? To test him? To find out in that moment and time if he is elite? I agree that an elite QB shouldn’t, but even elite QB’s make bad decisions and force throws from time to time. And that is the play they sent in. Did the coaches send it in because they figured, “hey Wilson isn’t elite so he may actually try this” I don’t think so.

            Look, there’s much blame to go around.

            The intended reciever didn’t sell his outside fake.
            Jermaine Kearse didn’t set a good enough pick.
            Wilson led the WR too much inside.

            But to me, the play call was inexcusable from the get go. He should have checked out of it, yes. Or thrown it OUT the back of the endzone. But they shouldn’t even be fucking around. GIVE THE BALL TO LYNCH!!!!

          • Trac

            If evra play resulted in the best possible outcome, you’d have tic tac toe. How did you feel this morning Doc? Hair o the dog?

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            It’s funny you ask. I was pretty excited about the SB and I really like this Seattle team. So much so that I was beginning to question my Chicago Bears loyalty. “Am I becoming a Seahawk fan” I asked myself over the last month or two. But then when they lost, while I was completely shocked by the call, I didn’t feel any of the pain usually associated with these types of losses. So I feel relieved. Clearly I am not a Hawks fan. I am incredulous, but not in the least bit pained by the outcome. So that’s good, right? Had the bears been the team that suffered that loss in the astonishing way it transpired, I’m quite sure I would FEEL a lot different.

          • Trac

            I totally get your comments. I actually went out and bought a Steelers cup this year. I get it.

          • Irish Sweetness

            (Jaw drops)

          • Trac

            Let me put it into context. I was at bed bath and beyond needing an insulated cup to keep my water cold during the summer and they were out of Bears cups. I had my choice of Steeler’s, Raider’s, Packer’s and Cowboy’s. Normally I wouldn’t have bought any of the above but I chose the Steeler’s because even though rapey is unpalatable, the Steeler’s have been the kind of organization that I have always hoped the Bears would be. It was a weak moment.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            You sold your soul for a cup of water? Were you in the Mojave Dessert?

          • Trac

            Mmm, it was a weak moment.

          • Barb UMihai Mar
          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            yeah. I know what play I’m talking about. But thanks Barb. Your usefulness knows no bounds.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Maybe others don’t… or need visuals… or want visuals… you frigid virgin.

          • Shady

            I’ll preface this by saying I think Wilson is a hell of a QB and I’d be happy to have him… But I hear him get praised for his intelligence and decision making all the time. This post season in particular I’ve seen him make some bad decisions with the football. He’s young and has plenty of room to grow, but for a guy gifted with an all time defense and running game, he’s made some bad metal mistakes.

          • Trac

            The general concensus on Wilson is that he’s a slightly above average QB on any other team.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Seattle’s defense basically ERASED 4 INTs against the Packers.

            There was no time for them to erase the one Mr. Wilson threw last night.

          • Irish Sweetness

            Anyone here buying that? An extremely quick, agile and mobile QB who can throw accurately with power on the move?

            P Manning is done-ish. Drew Brees can look very ordinary at times. Brady sill has it .. but are they all head and shoulders above Wilson? They can’t be because they’re not mobile and agile like he is so he brings something to the table they can’t. Ergo he is elite. Any one of us – bar one member – would have him as Bears starter in a heartbeat.

          • Trac

            Before the Seahawks implemented the read option, they were struggling to put points on the board with him. It’s true.

    • willbest

      Is he? I read somewhere Lynch was 1 in 5 from the 1 yard line this season.

      Pete’s rationale made sense to me in terms of making the pass. The problem was the type of pass called. play fake to Lynch and either fade it to the back corner of the end zone or throw it away. The slant into traffic? not a chance.

      • AlbertInTucson

        Seems to me the very productive, Chris Matthews, should have been in their to at least pose a threat on a fade.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Yup, Carroll knows it too, but y’know what? The QB is the leader, the one that calls the play ultimately. He could have changed it in the huddle, or gotten to the line and audibled to a run, or thrown it tot he corner on a fade, or call an out, or bootlegged it (perfect situation for that).

      It ultimately comes down to the QB.

      And while all the bluster will start over BRady being the GOAT now … these are incredible numbers for Joe Cool.

      In Superbowls, the biggest stage with the most pressure, Joe threw 11 TDs to 0 INTs. His rating in SB’s ? 127.8.

      Joe Cool.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Last night people saw (but didn’t understand) why the Patriots have so much success.
    It’s called Malcom Butler.
    You want to understand the why and how, read about his journey from the day after the 2014 draft up until that pick play.

    • Shady

      It’s called Bill Belechick and Tom Brady.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Bill Belichick before the Super Bowl… “Practice execution becomes game reality”

        “From our standpoint, I try to personally prepare for all of the situations that come in the game and we try to instruct our team of what we want to do in those situations, when they come up. For us, it’s all about practice. Practice execution becomes game reality. If we can do it in practice, executing plays properly in practice in the right situation, then we have a chance to do that in the game. The players have done that before. They know what is expected. They know what the purpose of the play is and what the goal of the situation is, how to handle and what we’re looking for as an end result. We try to execute the play properly in that way. If we’re prepared for those and we have an opportunity, hopefully we’ll be able to execute them at a high level. The key issue comes up when the team is not prepared for that and if I hadn’t done a good job in preparing a team for a situation like that, as rare or random as it might be, then the execution becomes a problem and it comes back on me.”

        Malcom Butler after the Super Bowl.

        “I knew what was going to happen,” said Butler, an undrafted free agent out of Western Alabama who said New England was the only team that gave him a chance to reach the NFL. “I don’t know how I knew. I just knew. I just beat him to the point and caught the ball.”
        Perhaps Butler knew because he had seen the play before. During a scout-team practice, backup quarterback Jimmy Garoppolo beat Butler on the same play for a touchdown to Josh Boyce.
        “We did and Josh got a touchdown in practice on it,” Garoppolo confirmed in the Pats locker room. “It got him ready and he knew what to expect. Jumping the route like that, that’s very impressive. That’s all instincts.”

        • Shady

          Exactly. But it’s so much easier said than done. By all accounts Trestman ran flawless practices but there was something lost in translation to the actual games. I’m not sure if it’s the type of players the Patriots bring in, or if it’s something else with the organization, but the ability to successfully prepare players for specific situations in the game is something all great head coaches find a way to do.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Trestman has no clue about Defense and is one dimensional on Offense.

            You need the right coaches, the right players and support from the franchise.

            They do it because they’re obsessed in doing it and become better in doing it. There’s no secret formula, no genius plan. It’s basic things done to perfection. Everybody with their own responsibilities.

    • Trac

      I get it. Belichick is genius and that’s why he has 4 rings.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Here it is. Not getting it.

        He’s no genius. That’s the point.

    • SC Dave

      Its called cheating?

  • AlbertInTucson

    Blogfather” Only Chicago Bears fans, who’ve had maybe six great skill players in the organization’s history,”

    Who are your chosen 6?

    • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

      Let’s see if I can answer for him.

      Payton, Sayers, Neal Anderson, Matt Forte, Brandon Marshall, and ….(Red Grange? Greg Olsen (kidding)?, Sid Luckman?, Thomas Jones? McMahon? Can’t be Cutty…hmmm. I don’t know who the sixth is. )

      • AlbertInTucson

        No Ditka?

        Grange and Luckman WERE certainly elite, for their time.

        Harlon Hill was elite until he drank himself out of it.

        • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

          Of course. Ditka. How could I forget Ditka. Please don’t revoke my fan-card.

          • AlbertInTucson

            It’s amazes me that Dikta was a DEFENSIVE end at Pitt. So, not ALL the Bears “Draft him and give him new position” moves have been flops. Richie Petitbon was a QB at Tulane.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            That was back in the day when it meant something to be a “football player” instead of some specialized specimen. That’s actually what I kind of envy about Belichik and the Pats. They find guys that are football players (see Edelmen) even if they don’t fit a mold. Football players know how to play the game. Give them a position and let them play the kids game.

          • AlbertInTucson

            Yeah. Edelman was a 7th rounder.

          • Johnnywad

            And a quarterback to boot I believe.

          • AlbertInTucson

            His playoff TD pass is one of the reasons New England advanced.

          • Cormonster

            Bortz and Big Cat were both defensive lineman when drafted.

          • Shady

            I was ready to take your fan card away because you were becoming a bandwagon Hawks fan. I understand if your kids are fans, especially growing up in Seattle. But you are more loyal to the team than to be tempted by the Katy Perry of football teams. You’re a married guy. For you, this situation must be like having to work closely with a sexy coworker who is constantly flirting and coming on to you while your wife of many years is refusing to do any work around the house or in bed. So you have a few outings with the young sexy coworker and you finally get to kissing when you realize it just doesn’t do anything for you. You understandably wandered off a bit… Just learn from your mistake and never do it again.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            I was actually going to use that very analogy. But I never actually considered cheating here. It was more of a few innocent flirtations.

          • Shady

            At least you didn’t buy the goods like Trac did.

          • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

            Yeah, what the fuck was that?

            And it was more about considering polygamy than ever leaving my current wife…Like you know, I thought about swinging as a lifestyle choice. So sue me!

          • CanadaBear

            One of my wife’s good friends and her hubby are swingers. They just got married and are in Mexico at some all inclusive swingers resort (Temptations). We were invited. I had to say thanks but no thanks to that offer. It actually creeped me out. At this stage of my life I’m totally happy having sex with just my Sweet Baby. I’ve disappointed enough women for one lifetime!

          • Johnnywad

            Seconded

      • NewBearInTown

        QB’s are not “skill” players. Skill players are traditionally RB, WR and pass catching TE.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Matt’s skill? Receiving maybe, but not running. Willie Gallimore was special I hear. McKinnon led the Bears their SB season. Nagurski? Ditka definitely. Luckman. McMahon was the smartest QB we’ve had. There’s 10 if you include Forte. Suhey was a great FB. Dennis Gentry was great in my book. Isn’t Hester what you’d call a great skills player? Isn’t returning a skill? C’mon … no love for Rusty Lisch ?

        • SC Dave

          Forte is probably top five, Irish. Seriously. Just look at what he’s done, man.
          Sooner or later you will see. Perhaps when he passes up Walter to become #1 all time in total yards…

    • Shady

      Maybe it’s because I’m not on the twitters, but I haven’t heard one single person complain the players were too productive or talented. That doesn’t even make sense. I think the complaint was that that there was a disturbing LACK of production considering the talent and skill particularly on the offense.

      • SC Dave

        Starting with the guy that is supposed to be running it *on the field*…..

  • AlbertInTucson

    “The question that will define the competitive level of the 2015 season?”

    All new staff. Isn’t a “shakedown” season inevitable…?

  • willbest

    If the Offense continues its bipolar streak and goes back to being a top 10 offense in 2015, I don’t see them changing it in 2016. Everybody except Forte, Jeffery, and Garza would still be under contract.

    • FourFeathers

      The offense needs work. We like to forget that Forte will be in his 8th season next year and that Marshall may not be here at all.

      • Irish Sweetness

        (coughing)
        TRADE!

        And not Brandon ….

        • SC Dave

          How about just shutting the fuck up about trading the best offensive player the Bears have had since Payton? And before that back to Sayers? (And yes, Forte is better than McMahon)

    • Jeffery will get an extension this offseason. Forte and Garza will likely be gone by 2017, or at least Forte will no longer be an every down back. Losing Forte will be a big blow that will require a change in the offense.

      • willbest

        They don’t have to pay Jeffery this year, and there is nobody else on the Bears roster worth tagging for 2016, so unless he is giving a team friendly deal, I don’t see him getting a paycheck.

        I am shocked Garza got another year as it is, its almost inconceivable he is on the roster in 2016.

        I expect Forte to restructure his contract this year. Take a pay cut in exchange for more years and guarantees.

        • You pay Jeffery this year to save money in the future. And Garza’s contract has very little sunk cost if he’s cut, so could see him cut in camp if a younger guy beats him out.

          As for Forte, there is no point in an extension, IMO. History says he’s done as an every-down back after 2015, so why pay to keep him around after that?

          • willbest

            Forte isn’t the bruiser that other backs are so its not a given he is going to be washed up. Even if he isn’t an every down back he would still be a solid change of pace back or function nicely in a 2-back set.

            If the Bears really are interested in paying Jeffery this year then it might be in there best interest to extend forte who is going to be 9.5 mil against the cap this year to even that out.

      • Irish Sweetness

        … like using our receivers to catch the ball?
        Trading Forte doesn’t affect our running game one bit.

        • Forte has been a good running back for many years as a runner as well as a pass catcher.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Good God. Roberto Garza.

  • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

    One final thought on last nights game.

    Yesterday, Tom Brady stood on the sideline while his defense almost gave a game away again. Had the Hawks scored, Tom Brady would have been 3-3 in the big game and we wouldn’t be hearing any of this “Best ever” shit we hear today. But the Hawks didn’t score. And why? Not because of Tom Brady’s greatness, but because of his defense. So, even though he stood on the sideline and watched, now that his defense won the game, he’s the best ever?

    I get it, he got them in position to win and all that. But if they had lost, we would only be talking about how he’s 500 in the big game. I guess my point is, football is such a team game, greatest ever arguments can never be settled. Looking at it another way, Tom Brady’s two amazing plays away from having won 6 superbowls. The two plays that lost them, occurred when he was on the sideline. So maybe he is the best ever.

    It’s just funny to me how wins are all people care about. He could just as easily be 0-6 in the SB if not for some clutch kicks, ridiculous clock management by the eagles, and other random factors.

    To me, he’s one of the greatest ever. But to ever say anybody is the greatest ever is folly. The best we can say is Player X is one of the greatest to ever play and leave it at that….Besides Walter Payton of course, who clearly is The Greatest of All Time.

    • Shady

      Great points. I was thinking the same thing this morning: football is the ultimate team sport.

    • BearDown100393

      Win or lose, Tom Brady is a GOAT because he is starring in Ted 2. He throws the effing bear out of a second story window and impresses Dirk Diggler. He is a legend. No not a legend, but a beast.

    • FourFeathers

      I dislike New England, but my goodness you have to give Brady his props. He is one of the all time greatest QBs in the game. My Lord, he has played in 6 friggin Super Bowls in an era of the salary cap and free agency. And he led the Patriots to victory being 10 points down in the 4th to an elite defense in Seattle.

      • DocNitty(BallsStillOrnamental)

        Clearly you’re not a reader.

    • WP4Life

      Y. WP, Greatest of All Time.

    • AlbertInTucson

      What a difference 1 play makes in in the storyline.

      • SC Dave

        Especially a play when Brady was not on the field.

    • BerwynBomber

      That is while I will still go with Montana as the QB GOAT. Was 4-0 in SBs. Never threw a single INT in an SB (and that was in an era when TD/INT ratios were much closer than today). Won with two different HCs. And NEVER had to count on Pete Carroll to gift him a victory.

      • Irish Sweetness

        Which makes Hutson the GOAT receiver. Something like three times as many TDs as his nearest competitor at the time.

    • NewBearInTown

      Let me throw another wrinkle.
      The Peyton Manning Broncos were absolutely slaughtered last year by essentially the same defense that the Patriots just beat. Is Manning really that much worse than Brady? Maybe you think Brady is the better QB of the two, but to say that these two games should set the narrative for who the great players are doesn’t hold water based on that comparison.
      And don’t forget, Rodgers is in the same discussion. He lost a couple of weeks ago to the same defense as well. Does that make Brady better than Rodgers?

      • BerwynBomber

        In fairness, one could argue Rodgers has been the victim of some bad post-season luck in terms of his post-season W-L. His first two losses to SF he himself played well enough for his team to win but GB’s D was epically bad against Kaep and the read option (and Hyde dropped what would have been a game-clinching INT in that second game). And then of course there was this year’s ST and D franchise-scarring meltdown against SEA.

        Anyway, Doc makes a good point. But for a bonehead Pete Carroll call Brady might be 3-3 in the SB, and though Doc said he could be 6-0 if not for a Tyree and Manningham catch, you can also make the case he could be 1-5 given that both their Rams and Panthers SBs were won by a cunt hair.

        All that said, when someone continually Andy Dalton’s in playoff game, it is what it is. And Tom Brady has been far, far from Andy Dalton.

        • CanadaBear

          I look at it a little differently. If Rodgers had Carroll or Belichick for a HC instead of McCarthy, YIKES! To me, McCarthy is the offensive mirror of Lovie. Good at his job on that side of the ball but not great. Has a tendency to go all conservative at the worst possible moments.

          • Cormonster

            Many Packer fan friends would agree with this statement.

      • Irish Sweetness

        We’ll tot up Rodgers numbers at the end of his career. I find it funny that the same media blowing Brady’s joint were saying he was finished, washed up around week two this season.

        I never thought much of P Manning. Being a post-season choker doesn’t make you great. Throwing 50 TDs is pretty special though.

    • Irish Sweetness

      Fucking A, Doc. Not handing it off to Lynch results in all this BS hyperbole about Brady surpassing Montana. 11 TDs-0 INTs. 127 QBR. Those stats have nothing to do with the Niners defense.That is all.

    • SC Dave

      You must have meant Otto Graham, right? 🙂

  • CanadaBear

    Warren is no longer employed by the NFL Network. What a dumb ass.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Maybe he can get a cell next to Darren Sharper.

  • CanadaBear
    • Shady

      Kinda saw that last night too.

  • BerwynBomber

    One last thing about the Pats. If you think about it, they have been gifted the last ~15 years by playing in a crap division. (To a degree, Manning’s Colts also benefitted from the same in theirs.) The Pats have really had no consistent threat in the AFC East and could virtually punch their playoff ticket each September. Not that their organization, HC and QB aren’t special — they are — but the majority of teams (even next level teams from this year — SEA, GB, BAL, DAL, etc.) such good fortune often doesn’t exist. The only major threat in the AFC to the Pats in the last decade and a half were arguably those Ryan and Sanchize Jets teams that made the AFC title two years running.

    Anyway, thought it warranted pointing out. Now excuse me while I return to my off-season long hate of Pete Carroll for failing to run the Beast at the goal line.

    • GB has won the division 4x in a row now and been in the playoffs 6 straight years, a streak that doesn’t look like it will be ending any time soon. It’s not about how tough the division is. When you have an all-time great QB, you are in the playoffs. Period.

      Dolphins had a couple decent years in there. Jets had a 3 year stretch of being really good.

      For the Colts, the Jags were good for a couple years, the Titans with McNair were great for a couple years, and the Texans were good for a couple years at the end of Manning/start of Luck.

      • BerwynBomber

        Over fifteen years we still have been a tougher, more consistent foe to GB than anyone has been to Pats in the AFC East or anyone was to Indy in the AFC South. And that’s even considering our horrid record against Rodgers or Favre.

        And look at SB-winning teams like SEA or, going back a few years, NYG and PITT. Those teams almost always faced tougher divisional foes than either NE or IND.

        Sorry, but the AFC East and South have largely been one team divisions except for a few select years. An all-time QB explains some of it but not all of it.

        • willbest

          If you win your division you at a min, have to play 4 playoff teams from the year before. The Pats won ~12.5 games/yr on average since the 2002 expansion. You don’t get that high without beating up on everybody.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          What’s the NFC-AFC Super Bowl record the last 15 years ?

          AFC has won… Ravens 2, Steelers 3, Patriots 4, Colts 1. So 10-5 ?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Green Bay has a difficult division ? The only way that’s a difficult division is because they aren’t that good at it.

      Put the Patriots in this division and you’d have the same results as in their division. I mean… elite QBs against bums over the last 20+ years in favor of the Pakers. That should be 19-1, 18-2 record of winning the division for them.

      • BerwynBomber

        Is there any AFC East opponent of NE’s that you can claim was as successful as the entirety of the Jauron and Lovie-led Bears? If so, I must have missed said team the last fifteen years. Any of them appear in an SB as the Bears did?

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          the Jets had 2 AFC Championship appearances. Lovie’s Bears had also 2.

          Lovie would have had his ass whooped by Belichick 10 times more than what the Pakers managed.

          My point is… it’s not the NFC North that’s better than the AFC East…. it’s the Patriots that are far superior to the Pakers.

          • BerwynBomber

            Of course Pats > Packers. Heck, Pats have been the best team in the entire NFL since Belichick arrived. They are the premier NFL franchise.

            But I still think the AFC East has been a weak division. And P.S. I mentioned the Jets and Ryan in my first post.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            We both might be right. The Patriots might have had the same overall record…while the 3 other NFC North teams were better than the AFC East teams.

            Lions are a disaster, the Vikings had the Farve years and Lovie’s D made the Bears relevant in some of his years. I mean…these 3 could be a step up from the Jets-Bills-Dolphins combo…bet they’re still 10 steps below the Patriots.

          • SC Dave

            Pure speculative B.U.L.L.S.H.I.T. Barb. You have no fucking idea what would have happened, and your statements are nothing more, or less, than idiotic.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Interesting stuff:

    -The Patriots are only the fourth team to lose the turnover battle and win the Super Bowl.
    – First team in Super Bowl history to trail by 10-plus points during the second half and win the game. Teams trailing by 10 or more points entering the fourth quarter had been 0-29 in Super Bowl play.
    – The Patriots are the youngest team to ever win a Super Bowl, with an average age of 25.2 years.

    • Irish Sweetness

      That makes it a reaat SB on paper and it passed the eyeball test. The lawo minutes seemed to last half an hour and we got a brawl to boot.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        No. 1 seeds going at each other until the last play, fight after. Great stuff indeed.

    • Peanut FTW

      It makes it even more special that they were able to come back in the fourth down 10 against one of the better defenses of this decade.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        It was a great chess game… the Patriots Defense allowed this scores:

        first 20 minutes of the game: 0 points

        next 20 minutes of the game: 24 points

        last 20 minutes of the game: 0 points (with turnover).

        The Seahawks D went: 7(turnover)-7(turnover)-14.

  • BerwynBomber

    DaBearsBlog @dabearsblog “Has the NFL officially announced Steelers at Patriots as the Thursday night opener yet?”

    Can they play Baltimore or would be Baltimore not be an option because they finished second in the AFC North?

    As tired as I am of both Brady and Manning, NE/DEN would be a good way for the league to kick-off the year.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      Do they play NFC East ? Then one of those teams… Dallas, Giants or Philly.

      • BerwynBomber

        I’m trying to remember if they go cross-conference in that opening Thurs night game. Seems like it is usually inter-conference.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Steelers or Eagles. I’d chose Eagles especially if they want/get the rookie QB.

    • SC Dave

      Does anyone care?

  • Doc Hamstring

    So, the Patriots are the “Champions.” They did not dominate the Seahawks. They won because of some bad luck on a bad play call.

    The Seahawks did not steamroll their opponents before the Super Bowl; they beat the Packers because of some bad luck and bad playcalling.

    Before I go on, I’m just saying that there was not a “dominant” team this year. Even the teams that looked dominant at one point (e.g., Patriots, Packers) failed to impress at other points–critical points in the season.

    Which is par for the course anymore. Neither of the Giants’ wins with Eli were because the Giants were hands-down the best team in football. They got hot at the right time and the stars aligned in the Super Bowl. Ditto for the Steelers’ last win.

    So a team doesn’t have to be great to be the champs.

    Where I’m going with this is that the Bears are closer than many people think. Yes, they’re dysfunctional and there are parts missing. But it’s not like they have to fix every problem and go on a 15-1 regular season run in order to win it all.

    And that’s one of the reasons the 1985 Bears won’t go away. They WERE that team.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The Patriots and Seahawks had great years. They would have dominated any other team in the Super Bowl, but not each other.

      I mean the difference in the game was between which 6th CB on the roster in Week 1 was better on the biggest stage… Simon or Butler.

      Both teams are very similar from this point of view… they want to win with 1.000 cuts, rather than go for the neck. Their strength is on roster depth, rather than the front end. Will people take notice ? I don’t think so… they never do.

      • Peanut FTW

        I disagree to an extent. They are both deep, true; however; Seattle looked like a different team without Wagner earlier in the season. You have to have a playmaker in the front 7 (preferably a LB) and one in the secondary along with the depth to truly be great imho. Most Superbowl winners have a playmaker defensively in those spots. The Bears have some depth on the line and possibly a developing playmaker in the secondary but the cupboard is fairly bare as far as a true playmaker in the front 7 and especially at LB.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Of course they have elite players all over the map. Both teams.

          The Patriots signed Revis for a record fee type of contract… right ?

          The difference between them (+ other elite teams like the Ravens, 49ers,..) is that they spend equal resources on the back end of the roster for different reasons. Special teams are huge, depth competition is huge, replacing FA from within is huge.

          Having the best role players is an as important facet of their success as the elite players performance.

          • willbest

            Well it helps when you are paying Brady 7 million less than he is worth.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Which again goes back to what they’re all about. Mid round level QBs that gained their spot against the odds.

          • BerwynBomber

            The Pats also don’t overpay (in general at all positions) and if they do it is usually only for a short-term/one-year rentals. Some of the contracts we have on our offense, NE would never have on theirs.

            Btw, will be interesting to see what the Cheese do with Cobb in the off-season. Wouldn’t be shocked if they let him walk if his asking price is too high. They did it a few years back with Jennings.

          • When you have a true franchise Qb who you can trust to elevate others, then you can afford to go a little frugal on offensive weapons (as a matter of fact, some were arguing the Pats handicapped Brady a lil too much, and if Gronk would’ve went down again, that would def have been the loudest criticism).

            But when you have Cutler at QB, you need to ensure you pay playmakers to carry him.

            Also, the Pats get discounts for the most part because they have built a culture of winning/cheating, so that appeals to those hungry for SBs, not money.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            they’ll resign him… they can’t take the PR hit after they shit on themselves against the Seahawks.

            Firing the ST coach doesn’t heal your image, it just slows the bleeding.

      • SC Dave

        You are so full of shit. You have no fucking idea whether or not either team would have “dominated” anyone else in the Super Bowl. It is so stupid say so that it defies comprehension.

    • willbest

      In playoff football there were 5 teams that looked like they could have won (Pats, Hawks, Pack, Boys, Ravens). For every other team it would have just been too many Any Given Sundays in order to push them over the hump.

      Also how a team looks in the first 8 games is pretty much irrelevant to playoff football. See Cardinals for exhibit A.

      In order for the Bears to win they will need to draft 2 impact players, pick up another 2 impact players in FA, stay healthy, and see no decline in production out of Forte due to old age.

      • BerwynBomber

        Brady, Rodgers, Wilson, Romo, Flacco … and … Cutler? Hmmmm …

        • willbest

          Fun Stat: Russell Wilson threw as many passes to Packers players as Cutler.

          • BerwynBomber

            Yeah, Wilson was horrid the first fifty-five minutes of the NFC title game.

            I expect a nice turnaround, maybe a potential playoff team from the Bears. But I don’t see us as SB champs. One thing that will work against us is our division. The NFC North could be one of the toughest in the league — basically looking like the AFC North did this past year.

            I’m predicting GB takes a step back (that NFC title collapse will haunt them for at least a season) and Rodgers even having mortal TD/INT ratios in 2015. Still the Cheese should be capable of 9-7. Likewise DET — especially if sign Suh — should remain competitive and they may have truly found a quality every day RB in Joque Bell — no small thing for an O. Finally, Minny should continue their improvement. Bridgewater will have his rookie year behind him, AP could be back and Zimmer should have that D playing even better.

            In short, Fox/Fangio will make a huge difference for us, but the NFC North will be a season-long scrum.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Report: Falcons alleged to have piped in crowd noise for the past 2 years.

    Cheaters…right ?

    • Scharfinator

      Yup.

    • Trac

      Man is inclined to cheat. The great deception continues?

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        deception ?

        • Trac

          Ask Roger!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I try to avoid stupid as much as possible.

    • Ososfan

      Sad, actually.

    • SC Dave

      Probably not. League investigation, or some anonymous stupid Twitter douche bag?

  • Scharfinator

    “(Yes, Matt Slauson is a top guard. His absence was THE major factor in the offensive line’s decline in 2015.)”

    Damn, Jeff is calling his shots for next season early.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    FIGHT !!!

    Report: Boston doc turns down NFL’s chief medical officer job
    Elizabeth G. Nabel of Boston’s Brigham and Women’s Hospital rejected the league offer of the newly created job. Nabel was set to be named the league’s CMO as soon as today.

    The Brigham and its parent company have connections to the NFL: Myra Kraft, the late wife of New England Patriots owner Robert Kraft, served on the Brigham’s board. Jonathan Kraft, the Patriots’ president, is on the board of Massachusetts General Hospital, also owned by Partners.

    I hope they kill each other. That’s always the hope when wealthy motherfuckers fight.

    • GPLDAN

      The Maras will simply lean on the B&W Board to shaft Nabel and kill her promotion track because she snubbed them. That’s how the game is played.

      • GPLDAN

        Also Nabel is a cardiologist.

        Ex-NFL players aren’t disproportionately suffering from heart disease. They are suffering from CTE. So it says a lot that Goodell wants somebody in the position who knows jack shit about CTE.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Her initial choice smells a lot like Kraft sponsored.

          Which is my point… fight between wealthy wankers. A joy like no other.

          • SC Dave

            Doesn’t Kraft own the team whose ass you lick?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            says the creep obsessed with Brady’s balls, ass licking and lips sucking cocks.

            I want nothing to do with your closet business….creep.

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Here are the Pro Football Focus posts about Malcom Butler after the first 2 preseason games and Super Bowl.

    *** Patriots @ Redskins, Preseason Week 1

    Lockdown Coverage

    On a roster boasting Darrelle Revis and Brandon Browner it’s somewhat ironic that the standout performer at cornerback was an undrafted player out of West Alabama; Malcolm Butler. Thrown at seven times in the game, Butler allowed just two receptions for 24 yards, and was in close attendance at all times in coverage. Butler also broke up two passes and showed willing against the run. In all, the Washington passers had a rating of just 41.4 when throwing at Butler compared to 122.9 overall against the New England coverage

    *** Eagles @ Patriots, Preseason Week 2

    Secondary Questions

    Rookie Malcolm Butler was a surprise starter at right cornerback, and led the defense with 49 snaps. Butler impressed by forcing two fumbles, but was less effective in coverage than we saw last week. Eagles quarterbacks completed eight of nine passes for 101 yards in his direction, and Butler also missed a pair of tackles.

    [[[[Darrelle Revis August 27, 2014
    “He’s stepped up to the plate. Every challenge the coaches been asking him to do, he’s stepped up, and now he’s taking reps with the first team. That’s pretty good,” Revis said laughing Tuesday in the Patriots locker room. “That’s pretty good. We just gotta continue to keep on pushing him as a team, and as players and as coaches to continue to bring that potential out even more, so he can get better and better each week.”]]]]

    *** Patriots vs. Seahawks, Super Bowl XLIX

    Malcolm Butler, CB: +3.3

    The undrafted free agent had only played 202 snaps all season before entering last night’s game midway through the third quarter for Kyle Arrington (3-for-3, 122 yards allowed) but as is so often the way in the Super Bowl, the unknown undrafted player had a telling impact on the outcome of the game. Targeted six times by Russell Wilson the only long completion Butler allowed was the miracle long ball to Jermaine Kearse to put Seattle at New England’s 5-yard line. On his other five targets he allowed one completion for 6 yards to Kearse, breaking up another deep ball to Kearse immediately after the two-minute warning.

    PS: If those 202 snaps are defense snaps (not including ST) that’s a huge amount for a 5th-6th CB. He was active for 14 games (playoffs included). That’s 14+ snaps a game. It’s also 16 % of the total snaps (1400 total D snaps on the season).

  • Barb UMihai Mar

    Malcolm Butler told reporters after the game that the Patriots had run this play with the scout team in practice in preparation for the Super Bowl and he had been beaten by it.

    Without Browner’s part in this play, Malcolm Butler doesn’t become a Super Bowl hero. The biggest point to think about, though, is what that story from Butler says about New England’s preparation for the game. They knew this play was coming.

    They ran this play in practice specifically to prepare their defensive backs for it. Nothing in football gives you an edge like knowing exactly what is coming. People have called this play a great read by Butler, but if you take a look at his reactions, he is playing nothing else. He knew this play was coming and that’s all he was planning to defend.

    That knowledge is even more impressive because that is only the third time all year Seattle have run that formation on short yardage.

    https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2015/02/02/analysis-notebook-super-bowl-xlix-that-play/

    PS: Spygate 2 !? Hello ! Anyone ?

    • GPLDAN

      During the regular season, the Pats had allowed teams inside their 5 to score 8 out of 9 times.

      I was calling at the tv for Bellicheat to call time out before the INT was snapped. But he didn’t. He KNEW what was coming. He knew that Carroll was going to try and burn some time off the clock and throw. If he HAD called time-out the Seahawks may have seen they were falling into his trap – he had the exact right D called for the play and he knew it.

      There is no excuse given that 8/9 stat that Carroll didn’t pound that ball in. None. Bill baited him and he got bit.

      • BerwynBomber

        One could argue that it is the biggest play ever in an SB.

        • GPLDAN

          The Pats coaches knew that slant was coming.

          • BerwynBomber

            No argument from me. The ‘chick might be a cheat but he is still the most brilliant NFL HC in my viewing lifetime. Carroll, OTOH, seems like a solid coach, which is good but well short of the ‘chick. Closest, IMV, is John Harbaugh and even he is a step below.

          • SC Dave

            Are you sure that the Cheatriots did not intercept the wireless signal?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’d say I disagree with that if I’d had to chose.

            They couldn’t know… if not for Spygate 2.

            They had the perfect personnel (6DL,2LB, 3CB), they practiced against it and coached their players in reading their keys.

            That’s scouting, preparation, practice, execution. Those are basic stuff, everybody does it. Nothing genius or special about it, if not the precision and perfection of the end result.

            Or they were just spying on the Seahawks. Now that would be genius… do some spygate in the middle of deflategate. LOL

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        “The Pats allowed opponents to score 81% of the time in power situations (runs on 3rd/4th & <2, or w/i 2 yds of goalline). Dead last in NFL."

        "SEA was second in the league in power situations, getting stuffed just 17% of the time. Lynch converted 17 of 20 3rd/4ths & short this year."

        Also… 66 pass plays from the one yard line this year. Only one of them was picked off – and it was that one.

        PS: On the no timeout call trestman did it last year against the Ravens or the Giants. It's a risky, big balls move (I also was shouting at the PC). Maybe he saw the 3 WR formation Seattle was sending onto the field and liked his chances… he had the run covered (7-6 in the tranches) and his best 3 cover CBs on the field.

        The pass on second down was supposed to be the unpredictable way… it ended up being the most predictable choice of them all…and the well trained DBs executed.

        This is a difficult sport. Winning is hard as hell.

      • I too was screaming, “Call a TO!” but the Pats only had two left.
        I don’t doubt Bill might have been savvy enough to realize they were going to pass, and he had 3 CBs to defend (And Caroll was trying to blindly defend the play by claiming the Pats had their ‘goaline package’, when in reality they had 3CBs out there), but if the Pats would have had THREE timeouts instead of two, I can almost guarantee Bill would have used it in that situation.

        Just one of those dumb luck details, like that SEA catch towards the end to get them into scoring position.

    • BillW

      I have to jump in here to ask a truly sincere question.

      How DID New England know that play was coming? A play that Seattle apparently ran only 2 times in short yardage before?

      I’m not implying anything. I just want to know. And I suppose there is very logical answer as Barb implies.

      First – Seattle only used that formation in short yardage twice all year. Short yardage meaning goal line? Or say 2nd and 1 from midfield as well?

      Have they ever used that formation in non-short yardage situations?

      How many situations like that (goal to go from the one) did Seahawks have all year. NE had a plan for all of them? Any different if it’s goal to go from the 2? 3?

      Do coaches REALLY get that specific? Again – I know next to nothing. Maybe they in fact do.

      What I’m saying is If during the heat of the game, Bellichik looked at a formation that was used only twice all year in that situation and said “I have the perfect call for this and the perfect personnel are on the field already” then there are no words to describe his genius.

      I’m serious.

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        I have no fucking clue, but that’s why i posted it. It’s an interesting scenario to debate upon.

        The fact that the main character ended up being an UFA rookie (allow me to gloat… I’ve been telling you about him since August) is another facet of the discussion.

        Belichick can be a genius or not. For me the key piece is the no name CB. If the Patriots (I think it’s unfair to just say Belichick… his staff does the actual work) knew that particular play was coming I think putting Butler in to execute against it is amazing… if they didn’t know I think putting Butler in position to figure it out himself is even more amazing.

        We’ve been talking about the patriots soft footballs, cheating, fumbling record… and I took a contrarian position…and that’s what I was talking about… the Malcom Butler’s.

        • BillW

          This reminds me of why I like football so much. At it’s best, it comes down to players making plays. And coaches putting them in the best position to that. And players and coaches both getting each other in position to have those opportunities in the first place.

          True statement that Brady is being considered better than Joe Montanan because of the NE defense. But would Bart Starr be revered as he is if not for Jerry Kramer’s block? Would Namath be revered if not for the Jets defense (the true stars of SB III?)

          QBs always have and always will get too much credit and blame (and money.)

          Me? I’m REAL happy to not see Mr. Discount Double Choke’s name in that conversation. As great as he is, he and his coach need to get on the same page (ZERO fourth quarter first downs in the NFC Championship game?)

          • BillW

            Correction – zero FDs in the fourth from when they went up 19-7 until after Seattle scored 15 unanswered.

          • Peanut FTW

            I think Brady’s 19 or 20 TDs in Superbowls probably helps quite a bit with the comparison. For me, game on the line, in the playoffs, you get one QB… I’m taking Brady, just me.

          • BerwynBomber

            Pats are flat-out a superior franchise to the Cheese, and frankly anyone else. One could argue Brady is still (at 37) better than Rodgers — he certainly has had the greater career to this point — but I tend to think Belichick/McCarthy comparison is more stark.

            SEA and Baltimore are probably the next best franchises and arguably have the second and third-best HCs. SEA is an obvious pick but I’ve been impressed how Baltimore has maintained competitive continuity despite the retirement of HoF players in R. Lewis and E. Reed. Even overcame the R. Rice circus and picked up some journeyman RB in Forsett who played exceptionally for them.

            Would have had SF on that list until they let Harbaugh walk.

          • willbest

            Um… the Pats D let a mediocre Seahawks offense put 24 points on them, and almost lost the game for the Pats O that put 28 points on the board. Sure Brady threw 2 interceptions but its not like he put the D on exceptionally short fields with either of them.

            The MVP clearly needed to come from the Pats O for showing up against one of the better defenses this year. I personally think it should have been eldelman because Brady did after all throw two picks. But then again when you don’t have a running game, that is to be expected.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Talking about “putting them in the best position to…”.

            That’s a must at every level of a winning organization. I tried to talk about it this past month.

      • Big Mike

        Running a slant from that formation is fairly common. Butler sold out on the formation. Had he been wrong, there would have been a guy wide open.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          That’s how Simon got trashed 2 plays in a row in a similar field position. Sold out on the wrong option.

      • SC Dave

        Or, as before, they had a spy?

    • Big Mike

      pre-snap read is what he recognized and he simple sold out and ran to the spot. A great example of coaching by teaching.

  • CanadaBear

    Good evaluation of Forte’s season. Warts and all. Also, not a glowing endorsement of Carey. One thing I’d like to point out when they say Forte can’t run inside (and up to a point I agree) he never had a lead blocker and at least half the time the OL was in a 2-pt stance. Pretty hard to move the mountain against you when you’re in a 2-pt stance.

    http://www.csnchicago.com/bears/making-grade-evaluating-bears-running-backs-2014

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The Bears need a bruising type of RB. Use a run by committee tactic. That way you can use Forte for another 2-3 years in ideal situations for his skill set.

      • NewBearInTown

        That’s not the point Barb. Maybe Forte isn’t the best back for between the tackles stuff. Maybe run by committee works well for preservation. But it doesn’t matter who we bring in if the blocking isn’t there to help out.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          That’s why missing on Kyle Shanahan hurts big time.

          He can allow the Forte type RBs to run between the Tackles and can deal with crappy QBs.

          PS: If the scheme and coaching is great, there’s nothing you can’t do. We’ll see.
          I like when you have options. That’s why a bruising type of RB is needed. You can’t have personnel weaknesses.

          • NewBearInTown

            I agree with the PS, but disagree with the last sentence. You only get 53 guys on the roster, plus there are cap and draft restrictions. The league has done a pretty good job of making sure every team has personnel weaknesses.
            What you have to do is collect as much talent as possible on your roster that your coach can put together into a cohesive team.
            Seattle and New England are both arguably below average at WR from a personnel perspective, yet both made the Superbowl. Seattle did it by building a run-first offense and allowing their quarterback’s evasiveness to buy his targets extra time to get open. New England did it by leaning on a super-accurate quarterback and relying on the TE when size was required.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Seattle and New England are both arguably below average at WR from a personnel perspective.

            You talking from a numbers point of view or talent level ?

        • Big Mike

          Tyler Klutts

          • Ososfan

            I bet he’d love to come.back to Chicago. Klutts was the man!!

        • Naturally, blocking helps, but POWER runners get yards after contact.
          That’s their thing.

          That being said, I was/am one of the biggest “We need a true FB/Power HB” advocates on this blog to the point where I’m just tired of the issue.

          And while I’m parroting myself, Bears need a space eating DT (esp now) and true QB contingency plan.

      • BerwynBomber

        Forte is the absolute LEAST of the Bears problems on O. Finding his eventual replacement will be critical in the next couple of years but Forte, Long, Paea and Bennett were the best players on the team last year.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          This is not about Forte it’s about becoming better as a group.

      • Ososfan

        Preach!! Hell yea!

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          Jonas grey got cut in august by the Patriots. We had to band our heads on Draughn or whatever his name was.

          i mean… at least try him… see what’s what. Keep searching for fuck’s sake.

    • Big Mike

      He doesn’t have a beast mode. Love Forte, but that’s his flaw. he’s nearing his expiration date.

      • SC Dave

        I disagree.

    • SC Dave

      Other than that Hub is a douche bag, I got nothing.

  • BillW

    Prediction time:
    Seven new HCs this year.
    2 were former HC last year.
    2 more were Coords that were HCs in the past
    2 more were simply coords last year
    1 was a position coach

    2 of these 7 will be on the hot seat if not actually fired at the end of the 2016 season.
    In all, 3 of these coaches will not survive past the 2017 season.

    Of the remaining 4, two will make the Super Bowl by the end of the 2019 season (Super Bowl 54 or LIV).

    I predict the Bears will be in that one in tribute to Brian, and Steven Tyler will perform at halftime in honor of his daughter.

    (Not so sure about the last one.)

  • Trac

    I haven’t really seen any comments here about this but I’m very very very glad the Bears didn’t hire Dan Quinn. Seattle was miserable at not giving up 3rd down conversions to the Patriots. Who knows how good of a fit he will be in Atlanta but the Seahawks D looked pretty soft in the 2nd half once Avril wore down.

    • CanadaBear

      My issue waiting for Quinn was all the best assistants are long gone. That’s what happened to Lovie when JA fidddly-fucked around hiring him and for Nessman when PE did the same.

      • Trac

        Was thinking about this too Canada. I’m not sure if I was correct in saying the Seahawks D was soft in the 2nd half but they crapped the bed on third downs fo sho.

        • willbest

          Seattle’s D wasn’t all that special this year. Don’t get me wrong they were very good, but not special. Teams were scoring 21 points a game on them through week 10. Then they got to play Arizona’s 3rd string QB twice, the Eagle and Ram’s backup, and then 2 games against a dysfunctional 49ners team whose HC clearly didn’t give a @#$#@ and had 1 foot out the door already.

          • They had the best D in the NFL again this year. Had a couple key guys playing through injuries and a couple more key guys leave hurt during the game. Still shut NE down for the middle half of the game and went toe to toe with a great Patriots team.

          • willbest

            They had the best D because of the inept offenses they got to finish the year against to pad their stats. That much was apparent when a 1-legged Rodgers put up 22 points on them and the pats put up 28 without a running game.

      • Yeah, that was my worry too. I put my support for Quinn initially, but when it was apparent he was going to the SB, that made it tough for the reasons you stated.

        Besides, I think Fangio is actually a superior DC, so win/win for Da Bears.

      • Trestman didn’t get good assistants because he didn’t know any having been out of the NFL for a while.

        He was one of the first coaches hired in 2012. Most of the top candidates (Arians, McCoy) waited until after Chicago made their choice to go elsewhere, and Chip Kelly was a late add too.

        • CanadaBear

          Didn’t remember that, obviously. That makes the hire even more depressing!

          • Emery had McCoy, Arians, and Trestman as his 3 finalists. Arians stayed in a hotel in Chicago hoping to be hired and didn’t leave until the Trestman news leaked.

            Chicago was THE destination that offseason for the head coach, and Emery fucked up about as badly as you can, which is why he is no longer employed.

          • Big Mike

            Pooch was screwed…

          • Trac

            Looking back, Emery couldn’t have been worse if he tried.

          • willbest

            Emery gets an F in HC hire, a B+ in FA, and a B- in the draft. So no, there was a lot of room for him to do worse.

          • Trac

            Where are you getting your grades from? We got our ass’s kicked in the trenches all year. The net net was all around suckyness.

          • willbest

            We also had something like 11 different offensive line configurations due to injuries. And then on the D-line we also had injuries to Houston, Allen (illness/recovery), and Ratliff. Also, last I checked, Emery doesn’t call plays/defensive schemes.

            B- drafting – In 3 years he has drafted a pro-bowl WR and Guard. A serviceable RT. A CB that looks like a franchise CB, and a DT with real promise. Even with some incomplete on Bostic, Wilson, and Sutton, he hasn’t done poorly.

            B+ free agency – Young, Ratliff, Marshall, Bennett, and Slausen are worth every cent of their contract. He overpaid on bushrod, but you can forgive that. The overpaying on Allen and Houston looks more so considering age/demonstrated ability, and both contracts could come back to bite the Bears. The FA knock on Emery is mainly on what he didn’t do. Start the season with a return man or gunner. Ignored duck taped over the LB/safety position.

          • CanadaBear

            He gets an F- for roster balance. No LB’s, no ST’ers, 1 mediocre SS when there was a glaring need for a FS. No return men. We had 11 street FA’s on the roster. Other than Jones and possibly Shartpton (if he can ever get over his rep as injury-prone), the rest were forgettable. Maybe with better coaching some of these guys will develop but it ain’t pretty from where I sit.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            bullshit.

            It’s already been proved to be fantasy.

      • Big Mike

        Right on Canada.

    • Big Mike

      The speed at which they operated, the GM hire, being able to pull the trigger on Fox and then Fox’s juice no doubt contributed to the hiring of Gase and Fangio (sp?).

      All driven with no doubt in my mind by Accorsi’s guidance and timeline.

      I am curious though that if Fox hadn’t fallen from the sky, what their plan was. Or if Accorsi actually gave them some insight to Fox being available.

      • Trac

        I’m guessing they would have gone with Quinn.

  • We were just talking about this a few threads ago when debating “condoned cheating/edges”. Stadium noise being one of them.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/03/arthur-blank-angry-embarrassed-about-crowd-noise-investigation/

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      that shows you how smart we are in this blog

  • Fuller still might become a stud, but man, we were so close to Donald.

    Raiders OLB Khalil Mack finished third in Defensive Rookie of the Year voting.
    Rams DT Aaron Donald deservedly won the award and Ravens ILB C.J. Mosley came in second. That shouldn’t overshadow a tremendous season from Mack, who was PFF’s No. 1 4-3 OLB among 40 qualifiers on the back of run-game dominance and 40 quarterback hurries. The Raiders finally have a keeper after spending their previous five first-round picks on D.J Hayden, Rolando McClain, Darrius Heyward-Bey, Darren McFadden and JaMarcus Russell. – Roto

    • BerwynBomber

      Raiders look like they may have tabbed (at least) a Cutler-level QB in Carr. They are a franchise that might finally be on the rise, however slight. Btw, on the flip side of K. Mack was C. Woodson who had four INTs and was third in the entire league among DBs in TTs. Still think we should have signed the guy a couple/few years ago when he and the Cheese parted ways. Not only has he produced and remained healthy but he would have been dirt cheap.

      • John Doe

        He would not have signed with Bears. He has his wine business in Cali and Oakland is the only place he was going to play. He had won Super Bowl already so he doesn’t care about winning.

        • BerwynBomber

          Ah, didn’t know that. Thanks for the insight. Always wondered why he signed with the suck-ass Raiders when a team like the Broncos, at the time, was publicly interested.

    • AlbertInTucson

      Not saying Donald isn’t good, but he DID play on a D-Line with 3 other 1st round picks, no?

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      And now he was just ready for you to throw into the trash bin of history… VIC FANGIO DOESN’T USE 3T !!!

  • GPLDAN

    Here is the story I have heard on the Score –

    John Harbaugh makes a comment to the media about a formation he didn’t like during the game. Tom Brady is asked about it and says something to the effect of “Harbaugh should read the rule book”

    Harbaugh doesn’t like this, so he calls Grigson to tell him that the Pats are deflating the balls.

    Colts go into that game ready to make an issue of it. The players are told to report it. The GM makes a call to the league office and now Grigson is driving it

    http://fantasynews.cbssports.com/fantasyfootball/update/25026734/report-colts-gm-ryan-grigson-told-nfl-about-underinflated-footballs

    • Big Mike

      WOW! Level of reliability?

      • GPLDAN

        I can’t find anything that clearly states that Harbaugh got the ball rolling, but it was said by Matt Abatacola and the other Score people including Mully. I think it will come out that way

        • I heard that too. It’ll be interesting.

        • SC Dave

          I love it when media douches determine reality. It’s just like those “reality” shows when people get kicked off the island.

          Wow! So neat!

    • CanadaBear

      AND the NFL came out a week later and said the play was an illegal formation and should have been flagged. Nothing against Brady but that’s where the media really drops the ball when it’s a superstar. Replace Cutler for Brady and every media outlet would be sticking it up Cutler’s ass.

      • SC Dave

        So this. But it’s Brady-Belichick “brilliant” , but for the rest of the league is would be a penalty. Well, they are a blue state, so for MSM they *must* be right.

  • Big Mike

    Here is a draft question. Clearly the Bears need more help on the defensive side of things. Stick with me on the ground rules for the question. Assuming 1 pick in the first 3 is spent on offense, do you go get a RT, or a very fast WR?

    • Best player. Both would be a tremendous help. If you have similar grades on them, I lean OT, because you build from the trenches.

      • NewBearInTown

        I agree with all of this. Take BPA, but if you must choose, go with the tackle. We’re hurting a lot more at right tackle than we are at the slot position. Plus, a tackle will play pretty much every down. A third receiver will not be on the field as often.

        • Big Mike

          I lean this way myself. The argument I’ve heard is that Jeffery and Marshall are two versions of the same thing and a fast WR is all that is holding the passing game back.

          • Ososfan

            I hear you Mike, Cutler was running things with Knox before they both got hurt. I believe Cutler needs a fast Wr to help. But hopefully we can get that guy in the later rounds. Fox kept Groh ( WR coach) and he’s done a beck of a job with some of those guys.

          • Big Mike

            I would love to pick up a beast RT and a speedy guy later in the draft. The needs on defense probably make this a luxury.

        • Trac

          But unless you’re drafting a franchise LT, wouldn’t it be better to build the O – line thru FA? I much prefer finding O – line prospects with upside in the lower rounds.

    • John Doe

      Spending a pick on WR is a luxury Bears cannot afford with so many needs. May be take a flyer on a fast guy in late rounds.

      Percy Harvin is going be be cut by the new Jets GM. Jets are not going to pay him $10 million in 2015 and give a pick to Seattle.

      Harvin might come relatively cheap given that he has been driven out of Minnesota and Seattle.

      He would fill the speedy WR/RB plus KR/PR need.

      • BerwynBomber

        Agreed. Other than a successor to Cutler, spending one of the first three picks on an offensive player would seem misguided, unless it is a future Pro Bowler everyone has slept on.

      • Big Mike

        So that means a vote for the RT?

        • John Doe

          I would rather go Defense, Defense, Garrett Grayson in the first 3 rounds.

          Don’t forget GM Ryan Pace comes from New Orleans Saints and Saints rarely invested high round picks on O-line. All Saints top O-line players over the last several years – Jermon Bushrod, Jahari Evans, Carl NIck, BDLP, etc. – were late round players who were coached up by Sean Peyton and Aaron Kromer.

          I expect Ryan Pace to follow a similar model here.

          I hope Pace does not stay put at #7. Bears need more picks desperately. They can move down to 15-20, get an extra pick or two and still have options to pick great defensive talent like Eddie Goldman DT, FSU (good fit for both 3-4, 4-3), Carl Davis DT, Iowa (good fit for both 3-4, 4-3), S Landon Collins, OLB Shaq Thompson, ILB Benardrick McKinney.

          • Big Mike

            Don’t disagree.

          • If Cooper is still there at #7, I think a lot WR needy teams will be calling Pace.
            It’s not the greatest year for OTs, or that would be another possible trade bait

          • John Doe

            Cooper will be there at #7. Mariota is falling but I don’t see him getting past Jets.

          • Ososfan

            We only have 6 picks his year. the more quality picks we can get the better, IMO…

      • Barb UMihai Mar

        Spending a pick on WR is a luxury Bears cannot afford… while spending $ 7-8 mil on a 3rd huge pay WR is acceptable ?

        ???

        • John Doe

          Bears will have about $35 million in cap space. they can easily afford Harvin on 1 or 2 year deal. Harvin is a playmaker and will be an immediate contributor.. Unlike a rookie WR who needs time to lean and develop.

          • Scharfinator

            He’s also a cancer in the locker room. We have enough of that already.

          • Yup. Harvin tuned out Wilson and almost lead a revolt.
            Imagine how he’d react to Cutler

          • willbest

            The difference is Cutler doesn’t throw to players he doesn’t like. see Hester.

          • John Doe

            Harvin is in weak position now. Nothing wrong with exploring an incentive laden deal if he is available. Also, with Fox and crew in the building they will be able to handle a few trouble makers.

          • Pete Carroll runs a pretty tight ship. Didn’t deter Harvin.

          • John Doe

            Life has a way of teaching lesson. Carroll didn’t deter Harvin but they shipped his ass to Jets. And when Jets cut him, he will see his $$ value has declined considerably. He will know he won’t get many more chances. That is why I say it will be worth exploring.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            you’re contradicting yourself, so I’m confused:

            – Spending a pick on WR is a luxury Bears cannot afford with so many needs.

            – Harvin is a playmaker and will be an immediate contributor.. Unlike a rookie WR who needs time to lean and develop.

            I prefer a ready now OLB in FA and grow a rookie WR, rather than draft a not ready OLB and have another veteran WR.

          • John Doe

            There is enough cap space to get OLB like Brian Orakpo, WR like Percy Harvin, DT like Nick Fairley and 1 CB and 1 safety.

            This is before making any cuts or restructuring contracts.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            Then I don’t give a crap how they use the 2nd or 3rd pick.

            If the Bears sign those players the Bears can afford to spend a pick on whatever position. The needs are basically filled.

            PS: I’m not disagreeing with you…I just found your 2 posts contradicting each other.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I’d rather use that cap space on a big time S or LB got in FA or trade.

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      WR

      • Big Mike

        thank you.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          The Bears have Leno, Ola and Mills as possible RT. 3 young OT, none of them a disaster type of player.

          Fox should be able to find IT in at least one of them.

          A 4th WR is a must. The roster lacks that position.

          • I’m intrigued by the trio of young OTs, but am unsure any of them develops. I’m not giving up on them, but I’m also not passing on a solid OT if one I like is there in the draft. Especially since Bushrod was pretty bad most of last year (though I’m willing to excuse that as injury-related) and could be a cut candidate after 2015.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They can’t cut Bushrod because it would come with a huge cap hit.

            Finding a solid OT from the get go in the draft is difficult. Usually they need time to develop.

            I think you can’t bail on the trio of clear potential OTs and call yourself a ‘building from within team’.

            Now, signing a FA I get…but giving up on 3 solid potential players in order to draft another potential player seems like overkill and a sign of confusion.

          • they can’t cut Bushrod now, but it becomes more feasible with every year that passes. I’m guessing he has 2 years left in Chicago, but we’ll see.

            It’s not like any of their young OTs are highly regarded. 5th, 7th, UDFA. If one of them pans out great, but they didn’t mortgage the future on them. And don’t overlook the impact of a regime change and wanting to get their own guys in.

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            They all have 2nd or 3rd down talent. It’s about potential production.

            “don’t overlook the impact of a regime change and wanting to get their own guys in.”

            If the regime thinks like that than the regime has a major flaw.
            I don’t think they’ll work like that. Not only because they’re smart, but Fox’s history tells you he isn’t driven by such a losing mentality. His roster was based on McDaniels players.

          • Big Mike

            What prompted this question, is Fox’s run first mentality and the prospect of having two young studs on the right side of the line. Slauson will be in peak health after sitting out a year, I agree with you on Bushrod. Center is really the weak link on the OL. Weighing the prospect of a solidifying the o-line, vs being able to stretch the defense and making the assumption that our line is good enough as it is…

            To me it always come back to getting the o-line right. The fast dude will never get a ball thrown to him deep, if the QB is on his ass and you can’t run the ball. If the defense wasn’t such a disaster and scheme likely to be changed, I’d say you go RT in the first round and WR in the second. But my bet is the first 4 rounds are all defense.

    • Depends. If I had to draft a wr or ot, they would have to be versatile.
      For instance, if there’s a wr who is also a stud returner, maybe I’d go there instead of merely a rt. Goes the other way too. If a ot who can play og and center is there vs merely a wr, maybe I’ll go w the former.
      Not to mention who those prospects actually are, inj history, character, etc

      • Big Mike

        lots of variables. Guy falls for one reason or another, vs a position that is stocked with loads of talent. I realized as I posted the question there were too many variables to isolate. It was an either or, so really assuming “equal value” available, just a different position. RT or Speedy WR (who could serve as a kick returner as well)

    • Ososfan

      Tackle for sure. We just signed a decent speed guy like 2 weeks Ago.

      • who is that supposed to be? The guy who was a backup in the CFL?

        • Ososfan

          I don’t remember to be honest, J Wood. All I remembered is that he’s about 6’2 and runs a decent 40..

          • He had less than 500 yards in the CFL last year, a notoriously pass-happy league. Camp fodder.

          • Ososfan

            Ah, ok. I hope we can get a speedy guy in the later rounds then!

  • GPLDAN
  • Ososfan

    I read Suh wouldn’t mind playing for Chicago, I think Fox wouldn’t allow Suh to act crazy on the field, if that happens I see us greeting the best available defensive player in the draft. But I’d deff hope Pace moves down and gets extra quality picks…..

    • Barb UMihai Mar

      The patriots do it in a different way. they acquire the Suh type of player (Revis) when they need another piece to win it all. Denver also did it that way this year.

      I’m against the big moves to get you above average level. I’m for signing big time FA in order to go from good level to great level.

      • Ososfan

        I wouldn’t mind getting quality anywhere with this team. they need it in all 3 phases of the game.

        • Barb UMihai Mar

          getting quality and signing the biggest FA are 2 hugely different things.

          • Ososfan

            He’s very high quality for a position of need. I would not mind getting Suh or any quality ready-to-work player from anywhere. Don’t care is he’s the Hughes FA if he ends up playing 9 more years at a pro bowl level then it would not matter at all!

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            i don’t see things like that.

          • Ososfan

            How do you see it then?

          • Barb UMihai Mar

            I told you… bring in elite high paid FAs in order to make a Super Bowl push right way… not for simply being in the hunt or barely making the playoffs.

    • FourFeathers

      It’s very hard to move down in rhe draft.

      • Trac

        Not at the 7th spot I think. It’s also situational depending upon who is still on the board.

      • Ososfan

        We have a top ten pick though.I would assume we have some leverage.

  • FourFeathers

    Critical needs – OT, DE, S, LB
    Must have needs – CB, S
    Needs – QB, TE, WR
    Moral of the story? This is going to take a few seasons.

    • Trac

      May I please have my feather back Sir?

  • Trac

    Cutler and Marshall to the Browns for their family jewels? Between Johnny “Shitbird” and “Flash” Gordon, it ain’t lookin good for the orange and brown.

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/02/03/nfl-announces-josh-gordon-suspended-at-least-one-year/

  • Ososfan

    Slauson is a beast and was sorely neededand has helped tremendously. I would love to see him retire as a Chicago bear.

  • Trac

    Just a suggestion Jeff. Your new blog logo on your twitter feed looks horrendous. It’s awfully cheesey. Just sayin.

  • SC Dave

    I read a good part of this thread o my bs phone where I could not respond. As good thing, as there was FAR TOO MUCH INSANITY BY IDIOTS suggesting that we should get rid of the best player on the Chicago Bears, i.e. Matt Forte.

    ARE YOU FUCKING STUPID?!?!? Regardless of trade potential, salary, or any other dimwit excuse you might want to give, you simply Do. Not. Give. Up. The. Best. Player. On. Your. FUCKING. Team.

    • Ososfan

      Haha haha Dave, I don’t know who posted that but some guys were saying we should draft a bruiser to help extend Forte’s career in Chicago. He is a seriously important weapon in the offense it would be comical not to keep him untilhe rretire. Give him a breather more than he’s had is all we ask!

  • SC Dave

    Oh, and good fucking god… all the fucking second guessing… 95% of all the assholes bitching about how stupid the pass play was would for the past three tedious days been proclaiming the brilliance of the call HAD IT FUCKING WORKED!

    It’s comical. Or would be, were it not so abjectly pathetic.

  • SC Dave

    Oh. good god. Hug the fucking dream that is was all Emery’s/Trestman’s fault. Either way, you still have the same bunch of guys on the field that have not been able to, for a fucking decade, beat the Green Bay Packers. Chug that Kool-Aid, boys.

    Blame it on Trestman, and dream these players are anything than a bunch of underachieving pile of entitled 1%ers.

    • There’s a difference between being a shitty team (which they were in 2014) and beating the Packers, who were one of the 3 best teams in the NFL last year.

      The Bears are not beating the Packers in the next few years unless Rodgers gets hurt. They might be able to steal a game, but I’m talking winning the division and/or beating them in the playoffs. Coincidentally, the Bears are not winning a Super Bowl in the next few years either.

      But there is also no reasonable denial that this team underachieved last year, and that falls on the worst coaching situation in the NFL. The team had quit on their coach by halfway through the season, and tuned him out a lot sooner than that.

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